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When Shift Happens is a podcast about navigating change, hosted by Saray Khumalo, the first Black African woman to summit Mount Everest.
After being turned back three times by avalanche, earthquake and injury, Saray returned to the mountain and reached the summit on her fourth attempt. That journey shaped her understanding of resilience, courage and what it takes to keep moving when everything tells you to stop.
In this podcast, Saray speaks with leaders, professionals, athletes and change-makers about the moments that tested them. Together, they explore how to respond when plans shift, confidence wavers or life moves in an unexpected direction.
Each episode offers practical insight, honest reflection and grounded lessons for anyone navigating career moves, personal transitions or new seasons of life.
New episodes drop every Monday at 5:00am.
Listen first on jacarandafm.com under JacPod and wherever you get your favourite podcasts.
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Shift happens.
What matters is how you rise.
Let's go higher.
A JacPod Original by Jacaranda FM.
After being turned back three times by avalanche, earthquake and injury, Saray returned to the mountain and reached the summit on her fourth attempt. That journey shaped her understanding of resilience, courage and what it takes to keep moving when everything tells you to stop.
In this podcast, Saray speaks with leaders, professionals, athletes and change-makers about the moments that tested them. Together, they explore how to respond when plans shift, confidence wavers or life moves in an unexpected direction.
Each episode offers practical insight, honest reflection and grounded lessons for anyone navigating career moves, personal transitions or new seasons of life.
New episodes drop every Monday at 5:00am.
Listen first on jacarandafm.com under JacPod and wherever you get your favourite podcasts.
Follow or subscribe so you do not miss an episode.
Shift happens.
What matters is how you rise.
Let's go higher.
A JacPod Original by Jacaranda FM.
Hosts:
Update frequency:
weekly
Average audio length:
44 minutes
Guest interviews
English
South Africa
9 episodes
since Feb. 11, 2026
episodic
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What does it really take to handle life when things don’t go to plan?
In this episode of When Shift Happens, host Saray Khumalo sits down with South African adventurer and speaker Sibusiso Vilane to explore what happens beyond the big moments, when the pressure builds, expectations shift, and the o…
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What does it take to move from survival mode to building a life with purpose?
In this episode of When Shift Happens, Saray Khumalo speaks to Frank “Dr Mags” Magwegwe, researcher, behavioural scientist and financial wellness expert, about the shift from survival to leadership.
As a young man arrivin…
No one gets to the top alone.
In this episode of When Shift Happens, Saray Khumalo sits down with Dr Helena Dolny and Totsie Memela-Khambula to explore the role of support, mentorship, and community in shaping strong leadership.
From moments of crisis to career-defining decisions, they reflect on t…
Failure teaches you more than success ever will.
In this episode of When Shift Happens, Saray Khumalo speaks with Louis Carstens, psychologist, mountaineer and executive, about the lessons that come from being turned back and choosing to go again.
From multiple attempts on Lhotse, the world’s fourt…
Success at the top can look certain from the outside. But the reality of leadership often involves moments that force you to rethink what success really means.
In this episode of When Shift Happens, Saray Khumalo speaks with Zureida Ebrahim, Group Chief Operating Officer at Old Mutual, about the s…
Some leaders speak loudly about success. Others speak quietly about responsibility. Zakhele Mkhize belongs firmly in the second group.
Widely respected in South African business circles, he is not someone who usually seeks the spotlight. In fact, this conversation with Saray Khumalo is the first po…
What does real leadership look like when your identity, purpose and certainty are shaken? In this episode of When Shift Happens, Saray Khumalo speaks with Khensani Nobanda, Group Chief Marketing Officer at Nedbank, about the deeply personal shifts that reshaped how she leads, lives and defines succ…
Before she could ask others how they navigated change, Saray Khumalo had to live it herself.
In this opening episode of When Shift Happens, Saray shares her personal story in her own words and reflects on the moments that shaped her leadership, her resilience and her purpose.
This is the foundati…
Three times, Mount Everest turned Saray Khumalo back. Avalanche. Earthquake. Injury. On her fourth attempt, she reached the summit and became the first Black African woman to do so.
When Shift Happens is a new podcast about navigating change, resilience and rising under pressure. Hosted by Saray K…
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