Lights Like Us

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Here we go. Ryan and Heidi are kicking off a new podcast (and more) and this is a little of what it's going to be about. We think. Welcome!

Ryan and Heidi talk all about the transition - moving from one side to the other, from church to non-church, from pastor to non-pastor, and from one more christian worldview to another. And what that means for them, for us, and for where we're trying to go together.

It's all about the love… not in the romantic Valentine's Day sense… in the bigger all encompassing life sense - and what Ryan and Heidi have learned about it after 25 years of marriage. And why 25 is a cool number, of course.

Jumping out of the plane. Floating in space. Landing somewhere. There's so much to talk about - as you can tell - so consider this a first taste on some Ryan and Heidi stories and inspirations.

Ryan and Heidi interview their kids: Isaac, Abbey, and even some Anna. They talk a little about growing up, spirituality, religion, Sweden, Seattle, body parts, jobs, friends, millennials, worried parents… and more…

Ryan spills the secrets in this juicy tell-all! Not really. But, Heidi did feel compelled to ask Ryan some questions and he tried his best to answer them… about his time as a pastor, how he sees things now, how to treat leaders, guides, hope, mantras, and more.

There is this lamppost in Spain. A gallows used to be there. Ryan and Heidi saw it a couple of months ago and it got them thinking and processing all kinds of things, including a little more of why this podcast exists. And systems.

Speaking of systems… how about the medical system? The effervescent Dr. Jonathan Pasma (a.k.a. Ferris Pier and creator of the Lights Like Us song we get to use on the podcast) talks with Ryan and Heidi about old medicine vs new medicine, surgery, pain, and more!

The kids are back for round two. Answering questions from you, about college, dating, rules and, of course, tinder. And Post Malone.