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Guest interviews
English
United States
11 episodes
since June 29, 2026
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In this episode I talk to Magda Shah, Head of Operations at Towards.  We talk about the importance of working 'shoulder to shoulder' and navigating the twists and turns of building a new (and very different) mental health company.  We note the differences between a clinical leader and and…

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In this episode I introduce Alex Jukes CTO at Towards.  We talk about our working relationship.  The CTO and CCO speak different 'languages' have different risk appetites and there can often be a healthy tension between clinical and tech.  Alex and I talk about we navigate this shoulder t…
No cathedral was ever built by one person. You need the innovator, the organiser, the expert, the finance person, and the person who reminds everyone why you're building a Cathedral at all. You need quiet people, as well as those who talk a lot. . In this episode of Towards a Cathedral Project…
This episode is drawn from my 40 years experience of working within various mental health organisations; start-ups, scale ups, the NHS, academia etc.  I talk about the importance of culture and how a senior leaders behaviour can make or fray the culture of the organisation.
In this episode of Towards our Cathedral Project I talk about the invisible parts of a mental health organisation. I argue that they sometimes receive less time or attention. They are the parts that no one one really sees until something goes wrong...
In this 5th episode I talk about what I have learnt about the importance of attitude...for  founders/co-founders. I have spent meany years working with, and for, founders.  I have observed that the best ones have 4 things in common.  I call these things "the 4 P's".  It's just a…
In this episode I talk about the importance of being watched.  I believe that it's important to consistently watch the work of trainee therapists and qualified therapists.  I'll tell why I think it's important and what I mean by watching. Warning...some clinicians might experience a …
In this episode I talk about why I believe place matters in mental health care.  This is the why behind the Towards concept of 'Therapy on the High Street'.
In this episode I explain why I think we need to change the way we select and train psychological therapists. I talk about the Towards Academy Programme and what it means to be a therapist in training at Towards.
In this episode Sarah shares the story of how and why Towards was launched.
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