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The Upside Down Leader Podcast with Billy Moyer features honest conversations with leaders about the moments when leadership gets hard — when pressure, ego, or responsibility turn strengths into shadows. Each episode explores what the Upside Down looks like in real life and what it takes to find your way back to clarity, purpose, and daylight leadership.
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Update frequency:
weekly
Average audio length:
33 minutes
Guest interviews
English
United States
8 episodes
since Jan. 21, 2026
episodic
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In this episode of The Upside Down Leader, Billy Moyer sits down with Dr. Max Klau, creator of the Answering the Call program for the New Politics Academy, for a conversation that helped shape the ideas behind both the book and this podcast.
Max has spent decades helping leaders wrestle with ident…
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In this episode of The Upside Down Leader, Billy Moyer sits down with Alyssia Palacios-Woods, Executive Director of Capital IDEA and a longtime community leader in Central Texas, for a thoughtful conversation about the unique weight of leading in service to others. With more than 15 years in workfo…
In this episode of The Upside Down Leader, Billy Moyer sits down with Sylvester Williams, former NFL defensive tackle, first-round draft pick, and Super Bowl 50 champion with the Denver Broncos, for a powerful conversation about identity, pressure, and what happens when strength turns into survival…
In this episode of The Upside Down Leader, Billy Moyer sits down with Dr. Kurt Senske, founder of CEO Board Services and former CEO of Upbring, for an honest conversation about leadership under sustained pressure. With more than two decades leading mission-driven organizations, Kurt shares what it …
In this episode of The Upside Down Leader, Billy Moyer sits down with Emily Cherniack, founder and CEO of New Politics, for a candid conversation about power, purpose, and the tension of leading in the political arena. Emily shares her journey as a reluctant founder who never sought the spotlight b…
In this episode of The Upside Down Leader, Billy Moyer sits down with Marco Clark, President of Holy Cross College at Notre Dame, for a deeply reflective conversation about purpose, calling, and the unseen weight of mission-driven leadership. Drawing from his journey in higher education, coaching, …
In this episode of The Upside Down Leader, Billy Moyer sits down with Yuen Yung, co-founder and managing partner of Hal Bar Partners, for a thoughtful conversation about leadership under pressure and the subtle ways the shadow shows up over time. Drawing from a career that spans real estate, entrep…
In the first episode of The Upside Down Leader, Billy Moyer sits down with his spouse Ashley Alaniz-Moyer, Executive Director of Hispanic Scholarship consortium and coFounder of Refuerzo Collaborative, for an honest conversation about shadow work. Together, they explore what their initial thoughts…
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