128: Friction To Find Out

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Peek behind the curtain of the Softly Training Lab with the Softly Performance Podcast.
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The pinnacle of human performance is out there, and we intend to find it.
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Welcome, welcome to the next episode of the Softly Performance Podcast.
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I'm your host, Coach G, and with me is Brent, HMFIC today.
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Yeah, we were just talking about coffee, and what I've been doing is using the uh octane in hot water as a let's say why are you doing hot water?
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Because it's kind of like tea.
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It's a sexy tea, but with the how does that taste?
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Like hot Kool-Aid.
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That sounds terrible.
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It's okay.
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I don't I don't mind it.
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I mean, after the things I fucking put in my body, dude, this is pretty tame by comparison.
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So yeah, that's fair.
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And you were we were talking about the state of the supplement industry and just how tenable or untenable costs are for the little guy.
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Yeah, well, so we are gonna be sunsetting the supplement line at Softleet unless we can find a provider who will do or a manufacturer rather who will do small batches of what we want, which is tough to find.
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Uh anybody will sell you, like, hey, if you want Jack 3D with your logo on it, you can get that in small batches with your logo all day.
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That that wasn't what and so our provider or manufacturing partners have just slowly ramped up prices and costs.
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And part of it too is the reality that I'm frankly not a huge supplement guy, so it's hard for me to really push hard and get behind marketing the shit out of supplements when like I take a scoop of protein.
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Well, I take two scoops when I do it twice a week, maybe.
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So I feel it and I kind of feel like the era of the supplement is is not going super well.
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It's waning.
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Well, I mean, we would make jokes about snort nano explode off of everybody's bellies and all that stuff, and it's just not I don't see that being done as much anymore.
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No, not at all.
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I mean, when I was a kid, I was taking, I say kid, when I was in the Marine Corps, the amount of money I was spending on weird supplements that hundreds a month.
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Yeah, hundreds a month.
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And now today it's like, yeah, what did I spend all that money for?
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You know?
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You know, I still like a good pre-workout at the very least for creatine and you know, some placebo effect of getting me ramped up and ready to train mentally.
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But yeah, it's it's tough to justify.
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I mean, back in the day, I feel like gear is more in the open now.
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Like back in the day, you were looking at a bottle of protein as an 18, 19, 20-year-old kid, and you're like, dude, if I take this protein and do this training plan for three months, I'm gonna look like that.
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And what you didn't know was that one, it took years for that dude to get to where he was, and he was, you know, blasting gear the whole way along.
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And we've really changed that, right?
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Now it's it's truly okay.
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Well, I'm trying to hit 220 grams of protein a day.
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If I'm gonna fall short, I can get an easy 50 down the hatch with two scoops of this and drink it, you know, the And it's a supplement.
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It's not meant to be.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's not meant to be a foundational thing.
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Right.
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And so when we look at the lineup and things that we're interested in talking about, when we're interested in talking about nutrition, it typically centers around big numbers like a gram or 0.7 grams of protein per goal.
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I I usually put goal body weight in there.
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I don't know if the nuance matters that much, but goal body weight, and then what's your carbohydrate load look like to match your activity output.
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Activity level.
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Specifically endurance events, although it's good for strength training too.
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And then are you getting the appropriate fat levels to support what your goals are?
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And it doesn't like I don't feel like the conversation for us ever gets to which supplements are better or best, aside from low ingredient counts on the label.
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Like, you know, you don't want excess amounts of bullshit in your supplements if not.
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Yeah, it's fish oil, protein.
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There's an there's an adage, can't remember if I came up with this, if it's a Giovanniism or I came up or some I read it some maybe it was Dan John, but if a s if if it's been around for over a hundred years, it's probably legit.
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Coffee, creatine, protein, fish oil.
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I'm a big you know, creatine's a hot, not a hot button, but it's uh in vogue, if you will, for lack of a better term right now.
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Like you're gonna be able to do that.
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Oh, I've been very much pencing.
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You know, I'll do the hipster thing and be like, dude, we've been butt banging that drum for a long like since day one, effectively.
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But I don't see anything wrong with it.
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The hard part is that's so challenging to know what is good and what is not good, as far as you know, how much creatine you're getting.
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The gummies are really popular.
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I really dig the gummies.
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The gummies, I think, are like the worst way to know how much creatine you're actually you know throwing into your body at a time.
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Yes, it the it binds to creatine binds to water and turns into creatinine, which makes it less effective.
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Which I learned that you know, going back to the hot water thing.
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I used to be a lot of things.
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That's why I asked why you want hot water.
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Yeah, I don't do creatine in hot water anymore because it breaks down too quickly.
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God knows how long a bit of it.
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Shit.
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Yeah.
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Well, yeah.
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Also, so a lot of supplements, we had these issues trying to do hot supplement recipes where some of the ingredients, for lack of a better term, coagulate under heat.
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You know, they start to get clumpy when you heat it up.
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And so, you know, we played with like where you could mix it in a smaller amount of water, really blend it in well, then add hot water for heat, or mix it, then heat it.
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Like we played with a bunch of different things to try to make it tasty for lack of a better term.
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But for a long time, uh we'll just keep going down a rabbit hole today and hopefully you have a topic at hand.
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But for a co yeah, for about uh I want to say it was a period of two, maybe three years in my own.
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Well, a lot of people forget SoftFleet spawned out of a physical, like we owned a strength conditioning facility next door to Camp Lejeune, and Soft Fleet spawned out of that.
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And so I was coaching then.
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I also was an AS instructor, like not not as my full-time job, but I went to be an instructor at AS because guys and teams will get flagged to go land to hand with that a couple times.
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And the students, at least back then, were not allowed to take any supplements.
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And so I had cut supplements for my own diet entirely.
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I didn't take any supplements.
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We sold them in our gym because people wanted them.
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So we're like, shit, we gotta get them in here.
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And for me it was was softly.
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It was like, well, if we're not letting students take supplements, and I don't agree with this logic, but at the time my logic was if AS isn't allowing students to take supplements, I don't want to be taken out for all of those reasons.
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And I don't agree with that at this point in time.
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I think you know, if you're trying to hit 220 grams of protein in your fastest, cheapest, most readily way readily accessible way to do that is scoops of protein, like get the fucking protein.
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However, it was like a personal thing where if I can't have students on this that are trying to or candidates rather taking this, then I don't want to be taking it in my training one.
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I don't want them to have the excuse of like, well, I didn't have my protein, so I don't get selected.
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It's like, I you fucking need it.
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But yeah, so we're gonna go back to that.
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Again, if we found a partner that was like, yeah, we'll do quality ingredients, low quantities, because we're not really a supplement company, we would do that.
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You know, it's not a the the bowling constraints really were, hey, we're not promoting them enough, but we have I mean, we still have a decent number of supplements.
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So, like, here here's a question, and I'm sure other people are wondering as well.
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Like, has there ever been a brain health supplement from Softleat?
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Because to me, that always seemed like a natural.
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Not from Softle.
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Okay.
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I've I've seen them other places.
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I know Row Labs, which maybe we'll have them on.
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They have one that they're working on.
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I I know you've you've been exposed to them, right?
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Yeah, I don't remember some of these smaller companies.
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I'm gonna look them up.
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I don't mean that in a serving a niche at all.
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If I said CBT related tactical yeah, we're all niche companies.
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Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Well, so there's there's Rolab or ROE labs, and then there was also a recent one.
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You had a you had a gum.
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Yes, Dr.
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Nick Berenger.
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Celidrocide.
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Um, hold on, that's not the name of the gum guys.
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Uh Beringer's gum, salvo gum, that's what it's called.
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That shit's awesome.
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It's awesome.
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I love it.
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It's fantastic.
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Uh he he's got he worked really hard on that, and uh yeah, it's totally worth it.
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If you guys are curious about it, it's totally worth it.
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Both of those companies, ROE Labs and Dr.
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Nick Berenger's company, Salvo Gum, those both get like our seal of approval.
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I'm gonna probably I wish I could hit shop so it's either not working or busted or whatever, but I want to order some of this because it's it's pretty solid stuff, what they're putting in.
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ROE or the salad.
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Yeah, ROE.
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So roe is creatine monohydrate, omega-3, and vitamin D.
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Like super simple supplement, all things that are fantastic.
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I'm reticent to say that you need a supplement, but they're all really great things that you should be adding to your diet in shape or form.
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And I don't need a lot of fish.
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Yeah, same.
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And then, well, I love fish, but it's just I'm in the desert.
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Yeah.
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And and Nick's stuff.
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Oh man, I totally lost my train of thought there.
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I guess I needed more caffeine.
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I'll have to remember the editing.
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You need more caffeine and more creatine.
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So, what were your topics you wanted to talk about today?
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Okay, so I wanted to open with a story because I'm curious to see where your head goes.
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By the way, like this is as an aside, and I'll make sure this gets stays out.
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But man, what a fucking weird response to that last reel, man.
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That was so strange to me.
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I'm not bad about the response.
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What's what's interesting is the birth of responses and the DMs that we got because to some people are like DMs.
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I uh yeah, what DMs were you getting?
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I'm sure so well, it was the DMs were mostly like arguing that infantry didn't have a lower baseline or standard of of and uh that that's not even the way that I would put that, but a lower 10% basically, which and that wasn't even the crux of the conversation at all.
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Like you put up some clickbait, yeah.
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Fuck you, G, for putting up clickbait, it got clicks, just not in the way we wanted.
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And then other guys were mad that they're like, yeah, duh, no shit that the bottom 10% of the infantry has more issues.
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But what was, and it's still weird to me to some degree, is that these are not issues like that guys can't pass a PFT, that guys have lower physical fitness standards.
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Like, those are the issues that you would think actually hold true.
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Can we give the listeners some context?
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Because I'm yeah, head on because I'm sure they're wondering what the fuck's going on, what we're talking about.
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Do you want to do it or do you should I you explain it?
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It's it was your reality.
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Okay.
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All right, guys.
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I know this is fucking stupid.
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This is a first world problem by any measure.
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I it's so dumb to be talking about this on a podcast, just more content for content's sake.
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It's too meta.
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But I posted, now keep in mind, like I'm going through the podcast episodes, oh, I have all the context already.
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Like I know what X person is talking about when I'm editing it.
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And this post was about malingering, specifically malingering within the special operations community in relation to the general line company or general infantry.
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So if I told you that right now, hey, there is a reel that we posted that was focused on talking about the cultural implications of malingering in the military in general, that seems pretty straightforward.
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However, I cut it in such a way that Brent was talking about it, and it sounded like he was saying that the bottom 10% of infantry, there's more bottom 10% of infantry than there is a special operations.
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That's kind of what it sounded like.
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Very reductive and kind of not substantive, substantive in that it wasn't saying anything novel.
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Again, when I was editing it, it made sense in my head, but very interesting quandary I found myself in after the fact because the comments we were getting were just the one that cut me deepest was is dude's like this podcast sounds like a whole bunch of talking without actually saying anything.
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And I was like, God damn it, if that's what this pod hat podcast has become, we're shutting the fuck down.
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I don't think so.
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I don't think so.
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I just think I did a poor job thinking about how it'd be perceived.
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It's this is new for me.
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I'm not an editor.
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So I I think that in uh in in putting content in short form, in long form, which is I like I prefer long form.
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If we can just have a YouTube channel with like films and fucking training advice and a podcast, I'm in.
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That's like would love that.
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We don't have that.
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We have to live on short form media, and frankly, because we don't have a centralized team, it's been challenging as of late to do YouTube content.
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But anyway, we live in this world where you have 30 to 90 seconds, really six seconds, to get somebody's attention.
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And so you posted a soundbite, I think is the goal is driving people to the full episode.
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People don't want to see the full episode, they want to argue in the comments about whatever that was.
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So I think the key takeaway is like, hey, what what are we actually talking about?
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And in that 90-second reel, we've got a what's in it for me, right?
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Like, what is the thing that we're trying to impart?
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Because what we we weren't trying to impart, hey, fucking infantry is you know not as good as special operations.
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That wasn't the goal.
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The goal was, I believe we're what we were talking about was individualized training at infantry units and training their guys to be coaches, right?
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Like a train the trainer so that they're an episode was about.
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Yep.
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They have coaches at their unit that are infantrymen trained to train other guys, and how that can play out, etc., and pitfalls and traps that you may run into in that.
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And why PT often becomes PT versus like strength conditioning training.
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So yeah, like if you've trained anybody who's trained foreign troops knows that you're gonna do a shitload of calisthenics and running, and depending on where you are in the world, potentially go swimming.
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Maybe, maybe not.
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But that's because of one, you're training a shitload of guys typically, and two, there's not a big budget for strength and conditioning equipment to support that.
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And that doesn't necessarily always get better immediately when you come to the states and work with a infantry unit.
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Like they still have those same constraints.
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So anyway, what did you actually want to talk about on this podcast today?
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Yes.
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So I wanted to open with a well, we're not opening now, but I'm going to, I guess, open this.
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Fucking 20 minutes later.
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With a story.
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So, and this is about wisdom, essentially, at the end of it.
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So I had the opportunity to take a martial arts instructor course when I was leaving the Marine Corps, and I was living in Phoenix at the time, and I had the opportunity to get flown down to uh man, I can't even remember the fucking kill, whatever it was.
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Open the gate, Marine Corps.
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Anyway, got sent down to New Orleans for two weeks to participate in this martial arts instructor course, got my ass kicked.
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As uh most people who've taken that course will understand.
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Like, there are no such thing as weight classes in the military.
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I weighed about a buck 75, maybe a buck 77.
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I was the first.
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I when you know, when they ask for volunteers, I'm always the first one to go.
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It was conditioned early on, don't be last.
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So, of course, I volunteered, and the guy I had to fight against was like 230 to 250.
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And I got my ass rocked for that however long that was, five minutes.
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The reason I'm telling this story is because for a long time over that two-week period, I thought that I was training too much like a bodybuilder, two a days, and then I was the sole or maybe dominant reason that I wasn't uh up to snuff, that I wasn't specific enough with my training.
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That's that that was the narrative in my in my head, which was not untrue.
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However, that picture was missing some data points.
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For example, it's fucking humid in New Orleans in the summer.
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You can't take someone who's in an extreme opposite, dry, arid environment and put them in a the complete opposite environment and then have them go day one, expect them to do well.
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So there's been some learning.
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So, for example, I used to think, oh, it's because I'm training like a bodybuilder, I didn't incorporate enough speed training.
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Well, not only that, but my aerobic base wasn't where it was where it was supposed to be.
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I wasn't training in this, let's say, anaerobic threshold zone.
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I was training.
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Just out of shape, is what you're trying to say.
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I was out of shape.
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I was saying I'm out of shape.
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I didn't know what that meant.
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But the reason I'm telling that I'm I'm bringing this up as a potential topic is because I wanted to ask you about times that maybe you look back on your life from a training standpoint, is like, oh, I fucked that up, and this is why.
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Because for me, I understand now how I would what you've never okay.
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Well, that's just me then.
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I guess we'll wrap it here.
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But no, no, no, go on.
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I'll catch you up.
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Go on.
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Yeah, there's there's certain uh, let's say, training moments that we've had that maybe a year out you thought, oh, I needed to do it this way.
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And then like 10 years later, you're like, actually, it should have been this, this, this, and this.
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So I'm curious.
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I guess I'm talking about regret.
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Yeah, so the the first one that comes to mind, and I don't know why this stuck with me, because it probably was not a big deal to anybody other than me.
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I had a gym member who came to me and said, Hey coach, I would like to, I have I have herniated and bulging discs in my lower back.
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I would like to figure out ways to relieve some of that pain.
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And I don't know how he knew that I had some experience in that.
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But I was like, okay, cool.
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Let me show you all of the ways to do this that I have in my wheelhouse, and we're gonna go through all of them in working sets.
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Brilliant idea, right?
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My thought process was I'm gonna show him all these things.
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He gets to experience all of the working sets, and then he's got tools for his toolbox so that he can do these on his own.
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He was an active duty guy, I believe he's a pilot, if memory serves.
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And so I did that.
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I w I walked him through a dozen different exercises to get traction, you know, blah blah blah blah blah on his lower back and get some relief there.
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And he was pumped when he left the gym.
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It felt amazing.
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Uh him and his wife called me later that night when he was in the ER having backspaths.
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That I have actually hurt somebody via well, there's one other time via programming.
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And in in a way that was that wasn't programming, but I I think that's the only time I've I've had somebody legitimately hurt.
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So there was a lot of lessons learned out of that.
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Number one, hey, if you're gonna show somebody a bunch of different things to do, they don't need to do working sets for all of them, right?
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Whether that was reps, time, RP, whatever it is.
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If you're gonna show them all the tools in the toolbox, specifically around the nerves and the spine, even more specifically, you got to go really light and ease into that, right?
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And so it's much like I don't know if you remember, but when I one of the times that I was at Exos, you had intern working with me.
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Uh thanks, by the way, you always did that.
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You had an intern working with me, and he's like, Hey, I want you to do these, this, this we were hinging that day, and I had worked with it for like three or four days, and I was like, hey, bro, I'm not gonna be on a walk tomorrow if we do this.
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And he was like, Nah, dude.
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It was like swinging like a 35-pound kettle.
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It was like some bullshit weight, but I was doing swings for relatively high reps, and I was like, I don't it doesn't work that way, man.
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Like, I can do a couple singles of like a shitload of weight by your standard, but this is not gonna work.
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It's too much volume on my low back.
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I've got herniated bulging this.
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He's like, No.
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So I think I walked over and told you, like, hey, dude, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna be fucking hurting tomorrow, and then we'll address it with this kid.
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And I say kid because he was a college student on the back end, and sure as shit, the next day it was like, dude, everything was just, you know, lit up at tight.
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But on a personal level, which I think is what you're really asking as far as being out of shape and getting caught out of shape.
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Man, I don't know.
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Trying to think so that there's only one time that I felt like I was underperforming, and there were two reasons for it.
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One, I was with so I we went and filmed in Idaho with a new media team, and the media team, I'm not joking, was all professional mountain athletes, snowboarder skiers, and mountain bikers that lived in Sun Valley, Idaho.
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Like every single one of them was a pro.
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That's what they did.
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So I flew from Arizona to Idaho and went on a backcountry snowboarding trip, which was fucking epic and awesome.
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And I was, what do you call it?
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I had the cross-country skis that were like foldable.
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And so I had a snowboard on my back and I was ski they call it skinning, where you're like going up the mountain to then ride down.
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And I am I'm pretty fucking good on a snowboard.
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Like I can, or at least I was.
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I haven't done it in years, but I I snowboarded growing up.
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It was a like a thing.
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And uh so I was very confident once we got the snowboard on my feet going down the hill, that I was gonna be able to, you know, at least look respectable.
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On the way up the hill, I suck on skis.
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So I've been on skis maybe half a dozen times in my life, which is not a lot, versus like I used to leave after work in high school and go snowboarding pretty regularly in the winter.
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I was dragging ass going up the mountain.
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And I but I can't decide if that's because I wasn't training properly or if it was the fact that I had fucking skis on my feet and I suck in skis or and was at however many thousands of feet of elevation.
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I don't know what the uh what that would be in reference to, but I've never felt like since coming into the Marine Corps, I've never felt that the training that I was doing was leaving me lacking in an area for the job, if that makes sense.
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So I'm glad you brought that up.
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I mean, it just struck me.
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I was by myself.
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Like I had already left the fleet and I was on the inactive ready reserve.
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So I was just doing my own thing.
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So I wonder they they brought you to training for that?
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Yeah, it was super random.
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They were like, hey, you want to go do this?
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I'm like, hell yeah, New Orleans?
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Yeah.
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Two weeks?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Dude I was rooming with was a dick, though.
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I wonder if he's listening to this.
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Anyway, there's another time that you reminded me actually, and this is related to my time in service, but then we'll we'll bring it into as a coach.
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But uh, there was a time where we were supposed to ruck, and it was supposed to be like 14 miles or so.
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Ended up being over Over 18 because of storms and they had to reroute.
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And I was dying.
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I was dying on that.
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I don't know why.
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It's not like we weren't preparing, but for some reason, well, when I say I don't know why, looking back, I know a huge part of that was like zero calories.
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I wasn't eating enough.
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So I went into that with an empty tank, of course.
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But that was that was something that came to mind.
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On another ruck, which this is more of just like having to deal with shit, I cheaped out and I bought my own camel back and I got the cheap one.
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That was a life lesson, and I never fucking I never do that again.
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But it broke, and my whole pack was soaked, and I had to ruck without regular access to water that whole time.
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And my pack was heavier as a result.
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Yeah, that fucking sucked.
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Anyway, so I as a coach I have go ahead.
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As a as a human performance coach, I don't think I've ever left anything on the table.
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I've had friends leave things on the table in their training that wasn't fitness related, if that makes sense.
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I have definitely made gear selections that made me very angry at the lack of performance.
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So I I'm I did a uh deployment where like one of my deployments with a partner force, the partner force was wearing a different colored camouflage uniform.
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And so we could wear our stuff or their stuff.
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I don't even know what the legality is of that, but we were doing it.
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And their stuff was from like when you say the lowest bidder, like made in China, you know, as as cheap as changed.
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No, even lower than that, like BDS tactical uniforms, like$20 pairs of ripstop pants.
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Okay.
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And so I had a pair of their pants and I took it.
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We had Taylors on base, and I went to the Taylor on our on our fob, and he put like he made me some bootleg cries, basically.
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And we went out on uh an overnight OP deal.
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And uh so I probably didn't move more than 50 meters from the trucks all night, and I blew the crotch out on those pants like in super fucking fast.
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So it was cold, it was winter, and I was like, all right, well, no problem.
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Let me get out my trusty Patagucci pants, the gray gear.
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For those who don't realize this, Patagonia used to be a DOD contractor for quite a while.
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They were selling cold weather gear to SOCOM and I busted those things out that I'd had for like a long time.
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Those fucking things, the zippers blew out on both of those, and then the crotch blew out.
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So I raided some med gear that I had and I had chest seals, and I like patched up the pants with chest seals and was walking around.
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I was just like, what the fuck?
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I felt like a soup.
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I don't think anybody else gave a fuck.
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You know, they're like, oh dude, it happens, gear malfunction, whatever, but it felt so amateur-ish to have, you know, I'm sitting there, I shouldn't be doing other things, and I'm like patching up pants with chest seals, which is fucking ridiculous.
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I don't know how much a chest seal costs, but it felt like an expensive patch.
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That's what I would guess.
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I'm gonna look it up.
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So I'm like, you ever hear guys that are talking about your gear's always evolving, it's always changing, like you're always I don't believe in that at all.
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So I think when you when you have something and it's working, you keep it serviceable and you may make some minute changes.
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And I'm cool with that.
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And I don't think it's it's foolhardy to go like, okay, well, with this mission, I don't want a pistol because we're doing recce and I'm not even gonna carry it.
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It's extra weight, you know.
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Like I get that where you're kind of like give and take or like move something.
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And and maybe that's a nuanced thing that that's really what those guys mean.
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But the uh I had f four pairs of pants that like they fucking worked.
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They were great, they were hundreds of dollars each, except my pair of Prana pants, which shout out to Prana, those are the best pants on the market, or at the time they were for that type of thing.
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They were indestructible.
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The only time I had a pair of those tear was going through Constantinoir, but I had gear that I knew worked, and there was no reason aside from fashion, like hey, it's cool, and you get you know, you're fucking around on deployments, you got like my brow patches, and you got other bullshit.
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Oh, these fucking pants are really cool.
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I'm gonna wear these.
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And they didn't work.
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And when I like I knew they were cheap.
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We fucking bought them for the partner force, and they were like, I'm not exaggerating.
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I think they're$20 pants.
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I wouldn't, it would it's a quite it's it'd be like if you went to Target and bought some Chinos and then took them on a backpacking hunting trip.
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You're like, that's fucking stupid.
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Why would you do that?
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So I disagree with the idea that your gear should always be changing and evolving.
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If you have something that's due and it's tested in training or in garrison or or on the fob or whatever that looks like to you and it works, like don't pinch hit it for the shit the Taylor just cobbled together for you because it's like that was a bad play.
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So I don't think your gear should always be changing.
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And I see this a lot, and I'm probably most guilty of it in this circumstance.
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My buddy Matt Franka.
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Shout out Matt.
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He loved we love talking shit to each other.
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I'm usually one, shooting slower than he is, but two, I'm I'm never hung over when I go shoot.
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He usually is, so I'll talk shit to him about that, and then he'll figure out what he's gonna talk shit to me about.
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But he used to make fun of me because I was always changing my pistol.
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Oh, I'm gonna shoot production class and then I'm gonna go to carry optics next match, and then you know, I was like kind of fucking all over the map with that stuff.
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And it's not it's not the right way to do it, right?
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It's I'm not a believer in it.
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I don't think it's what you should be doing.
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I've since stopped doing things that way, like making myself shoot only certain two certain guns.
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But anyway, not a big believer in that whole idea that like your gear always evolve, you're always finding better ways to do it.
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Like sometimes your shit just works, and then like you really need to take a look at why you would change that thing that works.
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Like everybody talks about the new AR-15 that whatever fucking unit is carrying.
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To me, it was always like, man, if you had five, ten years of improvements in that platform, why would you change it to then go through similar iterations?
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Like if you knew that thing worked and it was working well, was reliable, it was accurate, like it you should go through a lot.
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And and the higher you higher level units typically go through a lot of testing, but you should go through a lot of testing to make sure that like no shit what you're getting is correct.
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Well, from what I understand too, if you're talking about the 6-8 controversy, it's it's a rifle built for the last war.
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So it was with the AR platform or the M4, I should say.
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Yeah, I mean the it's a you always get that, right?
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You're gonna build for the last war.
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:31.039
And once we we could go down a serious rabbit hole on TTPs, principles apply universally, TTPs don't apply universally, they're driven, the enemy has a say in the matter.
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So the TTPs are how you're applying those principles in that environment is a way that I would put that.
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Uh hopefully you cut this out and soundbite it.
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People are gonna shit all over that, but cool.
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.079
Let's fucking talk about it and bring it on.
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:55.599
But if you let's take up recent conflicts, if you set up a 360-day degree envelopment on a target in Afghanistan that has two foot thick, 12-foot tall mud walls, you can get away with that, right?
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You have ladders up, everybody's aiming in.
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Anybody who went to Afghanistan in the last 15 years of that war, that was business as usual.
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Uh, you can't do that on a 10 sack tin shack in Somalia.
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You can't do that on a drywall structure in the US, right?
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And so when we're applying the principles, surprise, speed, violence of action, the way that you do that changes.
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:23.279
The the TTP changes to fit that environment, the mission, and the enemy, right?
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:24.559
So yeah, it makes sense.
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:26.480
Anyway, I'm on a bit of a tangent there.
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Uh with regards to rifles.
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Oh, that's what it was, the last war.
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So with the the you know, new calibers.
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I was speaking with a company I'm involved with yesterday on the topic of innovation.
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And that phrase, like just because you're different doesn't mean you're useful, comes to mind.
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So innovation for the sake of it, I don't think is a great way to look at something.
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So I would never look at a product and go, how do we do this different?
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I would look at a product or a piece of gear or kit or a TTP and go, what's the issue with this?
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Let's find something.
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What's wrong with it?
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Right.
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And can we make that better without sacrificing other things that already make this thing like if it's great, right?
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.920
So if you look at, you know, in cars, you look at a Toyota, you're like, okay, what's the issue with Toyota?
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:09.680
They're slow and they're shitty on gas.
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Okay.
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Well, how do you fix that and keep some of the reliability?
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A lot of guys LS swap them, right?
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:17.519
It's, I would argue, a very reliable motor.
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It's got more power, better on gas, boom, problem solved.
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:25.599
So, like, if you got a before runner with an LS in it, it's a pretty awesome setup, right?
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You've fixed some stuff.
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Whereas if you went in and you're like, well, how do we innovate here?
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Like, you know what we should do is put a diesel BMW engine in it.
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:37.519
It's like, I think you're taking a step backwards personally if you do that.
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:38.480
BMW got it.
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:47.119
Yeah, and you had that weird ass scout with the Nissan diesel in it, too.
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:49.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:51.599
And that was actually from a man, that was a nightmare.
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:55.759
Uh, if you're listening to this and you're thinking about buying a scout, do not get the stock diesel.
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:56.240
Don't do it.
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:57.519
Or most of your machinist.
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.400
Well, let's get let's get let's turn the lens back to training.
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:06.720
We were, well, I want to talk about as a practitioner, something that I I had to deal with not recently.
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:07.839
I want to say it was two years ago.
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:09.119
Worst injury in my career.
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:14.880
For some coaches, when I look at the athletes getting hurt under their care, I think I've talked about this before, Brent.
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:20.319
There are athletes, or rather, coaches, that their injury rate is frequent or more frequent.
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:23.200
But there's athletes like that too.
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:24.319
Yeah.
00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:24.880
Yeah.
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:25.359
Yeah.
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:31.279
Thankfully, I managed to avoid it personally, but yeah, definitely some athletes who are habitual line steppers.
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:39.599
But anyway, a coach might have, let's say, an acceptable tolerance for frequency of injury, but those injuries tend to be grade one, grade two.
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:42.079
So not necessarily career-ending.
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:51.759
My average is very low, my frequency, very low, but the amplitude of injury, save for the tactical population, seems to be very catastrophic.
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:52.960
How do I put this?
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:57.839
There was one athlete under my care who ended up going to a mental institution.
00:31:58.880 --> 00:31:59.279
All right.
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:03.519
So I don't think many coaches can say that as far as athletes under their care.
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:06.400
But the one I was actually thinking about was soft tissue related.
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:11.200
I was training a cohort of physical therapists and strength conditioning coaches through a course.
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:17.839
It was the second week of the course, and we were doing belt-resisted sprints, and I heard a bungee snap, but it wasn't a bungee.
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:19.119
It was this dude's Achilles.
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:20.559
And he was a PT.
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.200
And I remember he sat down after he sat down.
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:25.519
He fell down, and we all got around him.
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:27.039
He's like, hey, who stepped on me?
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:29.599
And I knew right then and there, right then and there what had happened.
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:32.480
I can't say again that I have a large degree of injuries.
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:39.519
I do have them under my care, but not, I don't think many coaches can say they have a torn Achilles under their direct supervision.
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:40.720
It fucking sucked.
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.880
But anyway, looking back, again, talking about regret, talking about wisdom.
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:49.039
One thing that I would have done differently for that guy, he had a track and field background.
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:57.440
When he, that first week that I was working with him, we were getting the shapes, getting him back into say sprinting shape and sprinting form.
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:01.359
He was accessing places and positions that he hadn't done in a long time.
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:05.039
And then in the second week, we put power on top of those shapes.
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.440
The muscle and tendon hadn't had time to adapt.
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:08.880
It's not like he's 20 anymore.
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:10.640
And he's not an active track and field athlete.
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:11.759
This is a working professional.
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:13.039
He was in his 40s at the time.
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.920
So you bring up your guy with the disc herniations.
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:19.200
I'm just wondering, yeah, you said what else comes to mind?
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:20.240
Do you have anything else like that?
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:21.359
What about selection?
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:23.759
Do you have guys that you're like, man, I shouldn't have done that?
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:26.480
Getting them ready for selection?
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:28.000
Not necessarily ready.
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:36.559
So I brought up this a few episodes back, but that kid I saw, again, grown-ass man, not really a kid, but he was in the pipeline doing day two of uh Panama City Dive School.
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.000
He ended up getting rabbed though.
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.720
That was that was avoidable in my mind.
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:44.559
We we haven't had that.
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:46.559
We don't have horror stories from Soft Lead.
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:50.000
And I think that probably sounds like a cop-out, but we really haven't had that.
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:54.240
So and I think part of that is the taper for guys going into selection.
00:33:54.480 --> 00:34:01.039
Everybody we've asked that has failed, that was doing our training plans, we're like, hey, did you like what was your compliance to the training plan?
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:01.440
Yeah.
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:02.720
No shit, dude.
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:06.160
Like, here's the roadmap, this is your job, is get ready for selection.
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:10.480
You're 90 or 120 days out, go, and you don't follow the plan.
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:12.880
It's like, well, kind of what'd you expect?
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:14.000
Right.
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:16.960
No, so yesterday I was laughing about this.
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:18.159
I'm still laughing about it.
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:22.719
I've been playing with footwear because I've been trying to run and sprint again.
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:23.599
Boy.
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:25.039
Because I'm retarded.
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:36.960
And and yesterday I was doing 200 meter repeats with my I was hazing my kids, and I was, as uh anybody who's a good practitioner of hazing does, I was doing the hazing with them.
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:41.760
And uh, so we were doing 200 meter sprint, walk back as your rest for six rounds.
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:50.559
It's like fucking 100 degrees outside, and this was after um they did a bunch of calisthenics and they were fucking bench pressing because it was Monday and we're in America.
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:52.079
Dombells, by the way.
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:58.079
But anyway, so my foot, my right foot has been hurting a ton, and I've broken both my feet.
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:16.480
I don't remember which one broke in which manner, but one of them I broke running, and I I broke running uh in the final PFT of boot camp and finished boot camp and then had to hang out after graduation with a fucking broken foot, which was like the worst limbo ever for six weeks or whatever it was.
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:20.159
So you were in basic in in that fucking medical platoon?
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:24.079
No, so I I didn't go to medical till after I graduated.
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:30.400
So base or I like so I your final PFT, at least for me, was before you go to the crucible.
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:32.320
I don't even does the crucible still a thing.
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.199
I haven't brushed up on Marine Corps basic training in forever.
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.239
And uh so I did the the final PFT.
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:39.840
I broke my foot on the run.
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:41.920
I stepped on a route and it broke my foot.
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:42.719
And I believe it was my.
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:45.440
Yeah, it was horrible.
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:54.000
Well, then the next day you pack all your shit and you go do the crucible, which is there, like, you know, you get your eagle globe and anchor at the end of that, and they're like, You're a marine now.
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:58.000
And I'm like, sweet, I got a fucked up foot now that I'm well I've arrived.
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.400
Like, because you're done at that point, right?
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:11.920
Yeah, you do all your outprocessing, and this isn't a war story, but I've broken a and then I broke another foot at another point in time, but that's the I think the right foot's the one that I broke running.
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:20.960
And lately, as I've started to ease back into trying to run a little bit, um, and I I don't say that tongue in cheek, it is a little bit of running.
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:24.159
I've had issues with that right foot hurting a shitload.
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:32.480
And yesterday I was doing, I mean, six 200 meter sprints is not that's not a heavy lift day of running by I think any measure.
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.119
It's barely like cracks the mark for actual conditioning, right?
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:39.440
It's not really speed work either.
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:43.440
So I thought that was a relatively safe 90% effort to be doing.
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:47.280
And but anyway, over the last few months, my foot has been hurting that right foot.
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:49.360
And so I changed footwear yesterday.
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:54.800
And as I was going, I thought I broke it as I took like a hard push off of that right foot.
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:56.559
I was like, I just fucking broke my foot again.
00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:59.440
But of course I had to finish the sprint because the kids are watching.
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:10.400
And I did not break it, I don't think, but I I have not been sprinting at all, like other than really short distances at probably 80% effort on the flat range.
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:21.360
Sprinting hasn't been in my vocabulary for all of the reasons shown in my medical record that like I'm not sprinting as a as a training tool very often anymore.
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:23.199
And and so yeah, I got hurt.
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:27.519
I'm a habitual, like I had a team commander who was like, dude, you're like a fucking porcelain doll.
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.480
I was like, Well, I I'm also always running in the red.
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:35.519
Like I always was getting hurt, and this is funny to talk about after the malingering thing.
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.559
The difference is like I broke a leg on 4th of July.
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.440
I deployed September 7th of that same year.
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:44.800
Like I wasn't, I wasn't waiting around for that fucker to heal.
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:47.599
Um, like, cool, cleared, like take it off, go.
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:54.159
I got a knee, I got back from a deployment, got a knee surgery, and then redeployed six weeks later, later in my career, right?
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:55.519
So fucking nuts, dude.
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:57.039
Malingering doesn't fit.
00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:57.920
So fuck off.
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:01.679
That there was that one dude in the comments that's like, this dude sounds like a malingral.
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:02.400
Fuck yourself.
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:03.679
I may have been the bottom 10%.
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:08.320
I may have been the big bottom 10%, but it wasn't because of malingering, right?
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:12.880
But my my point is, I don't think that I was I have been running.
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:18.320
This isn't like I dusted off the shoes and I'm a hundred pounds overweight and I haven't been running at all.
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:25.440
I've been introducing it back into my training probably an honest six months now, weekly, like at least once a week.
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:27.760
I'm I'm doing some kind of distance.
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:35.280
Um, and why I say when I say I think it's a footwear issue, I've typically worn shoes that are completely flat with very minimal cushion.
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:41.360
So the ultra lone peaks, both the the high top boot, I've wore those a shitload.
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:47.679
I've worn lems, similar, and then the ultra lone peak shoe is what I've trained in a lot for runs.
00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:51.280
And I've started running in, I'm wearing a parasol, hold it up.
00:38:51.440 --> 00:39:00.960
I've started running in the ultra experience flow, and you can see it's got a more substantial bit of cushion, right?
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:05.599
And I and it says it's zero drop, but I don't know if I'm buying what they're selling with the zero drop thing.
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:15.360
So I've been having pain in my heel, and my brilliant idea yesterday was like, well, it's because there's so much cushion there, so I'm gonna switch back to the so I changed footwear, and today it hurts like hell.
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:19.119
So I'm wearing these things again, just kind of like bumming around, doing office work.
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:20.239
Hit me.
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:20.880
This is great.
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.000
Yeah, have you considered going away from the zero drop?
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:39.920
Man, I have not because every time I've gone away from zero drop, I have such tremendous back pain that it hasn't I haven't done it, but I haven't tried it in an honest five years until a non-zero drop.
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:43.920
Yeah, not for all day work, just for like let's say those six two hundred meter runs.
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:45.119
I'm curious now.
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:53.039
There's uh there's also the notion of carbon plates because carbon plates will put more stress, they'll take stress off your foot and transfer it.
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.679
Yeah, so not saying that will help, but it might be worth experimenting.
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:07.840
I was gonna try lesser degree of cushioning in the ultra line, although I've been looking at Hokas and a couple other non-zero drop, but foot-shaped shoes.
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:12.400
So I'm I may give that a whirl in the near future and see, you know, what happens.
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:22.480
For try, I'm not telling you you have to do this shoe, but the Adidas Drop set four has been getting pretty good reviews as far as short distance stuff.
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:24.400
So that might be worth looking into.
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:24.719
Yeah.
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:29.119
And then they're for distance, I'm wearing my speedlens again, which are fucking awesome.
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:29.679
I love them.
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:34.639
But so speed lens was on my list, but they're aren't they like a fucking$300 shoe?
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:36.000
Yeah, they're pretty expensive.
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:40.639
The idea, it's an ultra shoe, so you're you're meant to hang on to them for a very long time by comparison.
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:46.719
If you're a guy who already hangs on to your shoes too long, firstly, that's the first thing I would look at.
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.400
And then secondly, uh, they're meant for distance running.
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:57.119
They're not they're not if I saw you lift if if you if you were training with me and I saw you throw those on for your 200 meter sprints, like, yo, what are you doing, dude?
00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:57.840
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:58.480 --> 00:40:59.280
They're just not built for that.
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.000
Are they um wasn't that the Cam Haynes brand?
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:03.679
Is he not wearing those anymore?
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:04.480
Yes.
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:06.880
Yes, he's not on their own.
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:08.079
I don't okay.
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:12.480
If he's not, it's probably because with the Coca-Dona, no, he's still on their website.
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:21.519
No, he's so yeah, he was he was doping, and he wasn't secretive about it, but he was doping for the Coca-Dona 250 and he riled some feathers or ruffled some feathers.
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:23.280
Was he actually doping for that?
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:31.599
I thought he was like, I thought what they got him on was that he took BPC, you know, he took peptides five years ago or some shit.
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:33.760
Well Am I wrong?
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:41.760
I I think he's been doing it since then because the language that I was getting now, keeping I'm like not Coco Doma 250 was freaking me.
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:43.920
I I also don't give a I don't care either.
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:46.320
I so like I understand the argument.
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:48.400
This is good, this is a good conversation topic.
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:49.599
So I understand the argument.
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:59.280
If he's winning top of his age group, that means that everyone below him who didn't dope, they're now lower because he decided to, he essentially took a slot.
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:00.880
I don't disagree.
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:05.840
Like he knows he's not competitive, he's not gonna podium, so I'm totally fine with that.
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.840
I think the right this is my opinion, this is not a reflection of Sophley or Brent.
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:11.039
But sure it is.
00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:11.519
Fuck that.
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:12.639
I'll own your opinion.
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:13.360
Let's go.
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:22.079
Well, well, it's it's if he was upfront about it right from the start, then Coca-Dona could just simply say, okay, here's what you would have got if you didn't dope.
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:25.679
Like if you if you did this naturally, you would have been top of your age group.
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:31.519
But because you're doping, you're still able to participate in the race, you're just not going to be scored, if that makes sense.
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:33.599
It's not gonna count towards your record.
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:36.000
Did they pull him from the results?
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.320
I don't know if they did or not.
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:39.599
I don't know if they did or not.
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:40.880
But I don't really don't really.
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:45.920
What distance was he doing?
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:47.599
Yeah, the Coca-Dona 250, yeah.
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:48.800
He was doing 250.
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:49.920
They don't have him in the results.
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:50.800
That's kind of shit.
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:52.079
Yeah, they probably pulled him.
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:57.840
And he his argument was that he wanted to be able to race next to these people that he idolized.
00:42:58.000 --> 00:42:59.280
I understand 100%.
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:00.239
I get it.
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:01.760
That's why I don't really have to.
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:04.320
I gotta Google this since we're talking about it now.
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:06.320
Cam Han's Coca.
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:08.559
Yeah, we could edit this too to like clean it up.
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:09.199
So no worries.
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:10.719
Results.
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:13.760
Because it's not like he won the fucking thing overall, right?
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:14.559
No, no.
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:18.320
Because overall was was 18th, if that's correct.
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:19.360
That sounds right.
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:20.159
Yeah.
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:23.119
So, and then it's okay, where we go.
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:23.679
All right.
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:29.039
And then there was this, of course, Pip Squeep, this this you know, super lean runner.
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:31.920
Wait, this is 2025 results.
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:32.960
Is this what it's from?
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:34.400
Was May 2025?
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:35.760
I thought it was 2026.
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:36.800
That was recent.
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:40.480
Nah, nah, it had to be this this year, because I remember it was a big deal.
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:41.519
Doping scandal.
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:42.639
It was a big deal.
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:44.320
I'm trying to figure out anyway.
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:48.239
But like conversationally, if he won overall, yeah.
00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:50.159
See, I'm only seeing stuff from 2025.
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:51.360
Did they Yeah, here I go.
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:51.920
I got it right here.
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:58.880
If you did DNF after completing no, it's saying he DNF'd after completing fifty nine point nine miles.
00:43:58.960 --> 00:43:59.840
No, this is or did he?
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:01.519
Did he do it?
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:03.119
You might be right.
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:06.159
He DNF'd this year, but he might have DNF'd last year.
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:09.039
No, last year he took 15th or 18th or something.
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:16.800
But regardless, so conversationally, what matters, I think, and he illuminated it because he's in the spotlight in a bunch of different ways, but he illuminated it.
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:24.000
If you're in the running to like make money and win on that stage, yeah, sure, you adhere to all the anti-doping, etc.
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:28.800
That's super debatable if guys are actually doping, not doping, what that looks like, etc.
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:40.960
But if you're there or you know, you are let's say outside of the typical rules, I feel like there should like let the guy fucking run and do the thing.
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:47.840
And if he's like, yeah, man, I'm fucking juiced out of my mind, pull me from the results, or you know, and he's I don't think he hid it at all.
00:44:47.920 --> 00:45:01.840
He talked about it on a podcast prior to the race, whatever it was that he was taking that they're like, you can't do that, then just let the dude do the fucking race and put it in a you know finishers category finisher's category or like non-com- I don't give a fuck what it is.
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:04.000
Enhanced category.
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:05.679
Yeah, enhanced category.
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:06.639
Yeah, I don't know.
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:14.639
We've we've run into that in another company I'm a part of because there's like anti-doping laws for all of those sports, right?
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:18.880
And anti-doping it's all it's all drugs effectively.
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:23.840
But some of these drugs that you're you're testing for are not gonna help performance necessarily.
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:25.360
So but anyway, I mean I don't know.
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:27.440
Well, we saw that with the enhanced games, right?
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:34.800
Like they had access and a complete and under unfettered access to all doping drugs, whatever they wanted, and the performance was meh.
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:35.920
Yeah, exactly.
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:37.440
It wasn't mind-blowing.
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:42.239
They're top, top, you know, five percent of athletes, but by how many.
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:52.239
No, but I think what everybody expected is if you took the if you took the number 10 athlete on a world stage, pick a sport, and you juiced them to the gills, they're gonna be number one, and that's not the case.
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:58.320
I think people forget too how much genetics play into at that level, how much genetics play into it.
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:00.320
And everybody who's like, well, you could outwork it.
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.920
I'm not saying that if you weigh 500 pounds, that's your genetics.
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.519
What I'm saying is at the very top level, genetics matter.
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:12.559
I don't you're not getting in the NBA if you're five foot two in today's day.
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:14.400
Is there an NBA player that's five's two?
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:16.639
I'll put my own foot in my mouth, but I don't think there is.
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:20.880
But if you're over seven feet tall, there's a pretty fucking good chance you're gonna be in the NBA.
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:27.920
So it's something it's something that I think most people, normal people, NARP is the term, non-athletic regular person.
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:28.800
That's me.
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:30.559
Yeah, yeah.
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:34.800
Well, you relied on your body to work, so there is some semi-athletic.
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:35.760
Yeah.
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:36.559
Yeah.
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:41.360
But but they don't understand how much like my wife for a while, she's like, Oh, you don't know.
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:44.159
He could be he's talking about my son, he could be an athlete.
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:45.599
And like, no, he don't got it.
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:47.519
Let's just fucking put that to bed right now.
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:49.119
We he does not have the genes for it.
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.039
The kids, uh my goodness, I can't remember the name.
00:46:51.119 --> 00:47:00.320
The Taylors, they're both uh one is now a basketball coach in the G League, but he used to be on the Olympic bobsledding team, and his wife just just meddled in this past winter Olympics.
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.719
Like, they're kids, yeah, they got the genes.
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:05.039
Like so, so for me, nah.
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:06.159
Yeah, yeah.
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:10.800
Well that that even comes into play in as far as bench press goes, right?
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:18.079
And you're talking about s slight variations of where tissue and tendons connect, etc., and your levers and how much leverage you have.
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:25.360
This is like back in the day, the conversation stemmed often around different body types being like endomorph, ectomorph, etc.
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:30.880
And that does matter, especially when you're talking about the meat and potatoes of athletes, right?
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:31.920
I'm not talking about the freak.
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:38.320
Well, it matters when you're in the I guess it matters, period, when you're talking about getting the adaptation that you want, right?
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:50.400
In certain body types, no matter how much you work, if your tendons are connecting in an unoptimal, in a less optimal way, you're not gonna bench press ever as much as the guy who's better off, right?
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.960
If you're out, if you're on a level playing field of training.
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:54.400
Well well, now here's a question.
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:58.559
So longer torsos are generally favored for a swimmer, longer arm span.
00:47:58.719 --> 00:47:59.280
Yep.
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:06.559
If you have I can't remember, Eddie Hall, I think has shorter legs, so he can deadlift more than Thor Bajornsson.
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.280
Is there an optimal body type for the door kicker?
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:10.480
That's a great question.
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:33.679
Yes, but I don't think it matters as much in at the pinnacle of that, it matters less, in my opinion, than other places because what's between the ears matter like your field IQ matters a lot more than the physical traits, because we're not at no point in, I would argue, any soft selection are you bumping into the limits of human performance as far as any one category.
00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:40.239
So even if you look it's unbalanced and what like what you're doing matters more.
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:46.719
So I think an argument could be made that if you're a you know, and then and then little guys are so great at certain things, right?
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:56.079
So if you have like my buddy Trevor Thompson, he was a SEAL, he was an SDV guy, so he's in a fucking submarine for hours on end doing that job.
00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:59.119
Hours on end doing that job.
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:07.360
Uh, I don't think that if you're a six foot four, two hundred and twenty-pound seal, you're the best guy to go into that fucking submarine.
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:15.280
Trevor is a very athletic, very strong pound for pound guy, but I don't think anybody would look at him and go, that's a fucking huge guy.
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:16.480
Like he's he's not.
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:24.559
He's he's not short by any measure, but he's he's a very wiry guy, and I think that that is more ideal for that specific mission set.
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:26.159
So I don't makes a lot of sense.
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:33.199
You know, you could argue the tall guys were gonna be better at rucking, but some of the fastest guys that I've seen ruck were fucking short.
00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:35.199
Like straight up short.
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.000
When you say that, my head goes to aerobic base, right?
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:43.599
So aerobic aerobic base and posterior chain strength are the two things that matter for rucking.
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:46.559
And so being tall isn't necessarily an advantage.
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:46.960
Right.
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:51.599
That was a prevailing myth when I was in the core, is like a taller guy could run faster, and it's just not true.
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.079
The data is very strong in the other direction.
00:49:54.320 --> 00:50:00.079
I I wonder now, so what is because I keep thinking of this PJ that I worked with, and I can't recall his name.
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.159
Dude's a fucking monster, dude.
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:06.639
He he he was well over six feet tall, well over 230 pounds.
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:12.559
My head kept going to man, I really like if I was on his team, I wouldn't want to be the guy that has to to pick him up.
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:13.519
I was huge.
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:14.400
He was like a full time.
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:19.119
I had a team that most of the most of the guys were like 210 plus in one of my teams.
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:19.599
Okay.
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:20.159
Yeah.
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:21.360
And what are your thoughts there?
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:22.480
Is there like too big?
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:31.360
I mean, the guy that can I know you carried a 240 on patrol, but is there a guy that like that's a toothpick for him and like now that's a liability as far as how big he is.
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:32.400
Yeah, there definitely is.
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:38.480
I think within within 10, 15 percent of the the other guys in the team is ideal.
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:38.719
Okay.
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:45.360
So if you look at I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna totally screw up which country it is, but I want to say it's like the Danish seals.
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.239
There's only like, I don't know, fucking like eight of these guys.
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:49.920
It's more than eight, but you get the point.
00:50:50.079 --> 00:51:01.920
Um they from what I've read are the most selective unit, and it's because they are looking for a very specific body type, blood type, like they go down the rabbit hole on like this is what we think is the ideal candidate.
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:05.760
So if you're not six foot to six foot two, like you can't even fucking apply, right?
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:08.239
It's they've got it dialed down to the NATS house.
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:14.320
And if you wanted to be idealistic in your team and you had an ability to be hyper-selective, you would do that.
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:16.960
You'd be like, okay, six foot to six two, that's the range.
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:19.039
200 to 205, that's the range.
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:39.519
Like you could set a very strict standard because to your point, even if you're a even if you're a rock solid 160 pound guy and you've got a rock solid 230 pound guy in your team, there you're you're probably not going to be able to carry the 230 pounder like another fit 230 pounder, right?
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:41.280
And and I am neither of those things.
00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:46.239
I'm giving the I'm not saying, you know, that on one end of the spectrum is better or worse.
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:51.280
What what I typically think is like 200 pounds is probably ideal for that job.
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:54.320
And then plus or minus 10% is a safe range.
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:54.719
Okay.
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:58.800
So if you're at your 220, you're probably in the safe upper end of the safe range.
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:02.960
And if you're 180, you're probably in the lower end of the safe range.
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:08.239
But I've again I've been on deployments with guys that were a buck fifty that were fucking rock stars.
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:11.840
I've been on deployments with guys that were 240 that were fucking rock stars.
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:16.079
I don't think I've ever worked with a guy over 240 that was and I haven't worked with everybody but.
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:29.360
They tried in recent years to make their own like organic CT PJ like combat elements, and I think that was a flop.
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:30.559
I don't think they're doing it anymore.
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:35.440
And it that may have not been PJs, that may have just been CCTs, actually, now that I think about it.
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:39.199
But I know AfSoc was trying to have their own teams that were pure AFSOC.
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:42.000
Um, and I don't think that I think that was a failed experiment.
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:44.079
Um, but PJ, dude, PJs are awesome.
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:46.719
Like I've worked with a bunch of really fucking great PJs.
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:51.440
Yeah, I I want to host an episode in the future where we talk about the different branches and personality.
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:53.920
Did we just have an episode where we said nothing?
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:56.239
If we did that, I'm gonna we're gonna show you.
00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:56.559
No.
00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:58.159
No, I promised we did not.
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:00.400
No, we didn't get around what's in it for you.
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:11.199
Yeah, we jumped around a ton because my mind works like one of those wind tunnels with like dollars in it, and sometimes it's an IOU and sometimes it's a hundred dollar bill, and you don't really know what it's gonna be when you grab it.
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:22.639
So I guess I guess if there is a takeaway, the main subject I wanted to talk about was I don't want to say regret, but lessons learned as far as training accidents or training incidents that that we've had in the past.
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:32.639
And we need to be able to deconstruct, taking a look back on failures that we've had, deconstruct with now time separated and hopefully knowledge gained, what went wrong and what we could do better.
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:35.440
First of it just happening and us not thinking about that.
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:40.480
I think I can break I like systems and process and like making things repeatable principles.
00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:46.719
Like I've been big lately on principle-based approach because my wife's been having me do some reading around that.
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:59.039
But so if you if if if the training stimulus or gear is both new and novel, you should ease into the implementation and use.
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:02.639
I think it's a great, I don't know if you want to call that a TTP principle, whatever it is.
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:09.760
But if you and it if it's new and novel to either you or the athlete or end user, you should do it, right?
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:17.199
So if we look back on me putting that athlete through a bunch of shit that he'd never done before, it wasn't new to me.
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:24.400
It wasn't particularly high volume in silos, it wasn't particularly high load.
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:26.880
I don't think anybody would say any of those things were dangerous.
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:30.079
And now you squish all of those together and give him working sets of all of them.
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:32.000
Motherfucker can't walk that night, right?
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:33.920
Goes to the hospital with back spasms.
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:39.119
So not new to me, any of it, but I was giving dosing that I'd never done, obviously.
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:39.599
Yes.
00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:45.840
And there's an adage that I don't know if it's shared among, let's say, strength and conditioning coaches, but it's something I've kept in mind.
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:48.800
The most dangerous time for your for your athlete.
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:49.360
Sorry.
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:50.639
Do no harm.
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:52.480
Yes, yeah, always.
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:54.960
Um that's where the rules come in, the three rules.
00:54:55.039 --> 00:55:02.960
But the most dangerous time for your athlete is the Monday after the conference, because that's the that's when people want to like test out all the shit they got exposed to.
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:04.239
Man, absolutely.
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:09.440
So, like the Sportsmith Conference, which we'll talk about on the next episode that I went to, I learned a lot of good stuff.
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:14.639
But there was this emotional part of me, it's like, oh, we should do with my triathlete, we should do this and that and this and that.
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:21.679
But the senior coach in me is like, no, fucking, if we're gonna fucking experiment, it's gonna be after his race, not now.
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:28.079
It's it's like the fresh MBA who shows up to a company and they're like, Have we thought about reducing costs and increasing revenue?
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.360
You're like, oh no, never thought of that one there, bud.
00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:32.159
Great idea.
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:33.280
Yeah, right.
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:34.400
All right, yeah.
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:35.679
We want to wrap it here.
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:37.039
Let's wrap it.
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:37.760
Okay.
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:39.119
All right, team.
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:40.480
Thanks for your time.
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:41.840
We'll see you on the next one.
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:42.719
Die living.