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We explore conversations with people who are developing extraordinary and consequential technology, and what happens once it is adopted by society. We explore scientific innovations through their outcomes. What has changed? Who benefits? What has become possible that wasn't before?
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Average audio length:
19 minutes
English
United States
5 episodes
since Jan. 18, 2026
episodic
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Second Order Conversations, Episode 01: Jeff Liu, CEO & Co-founder of FinalDose
A tumor analysis can list the mutations a cancer carries. FinalDose is asking whether a mutation can do more than describe the disease. The company wants to use it as an address: a DNA sequence that a therapy reads,…
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Your next eye exam might tell you more than whether you need new glasses. AI-powered retinal imaging is turning routine eye scans into predictive health dashboards, detecting heart disease, tracking biological aging, and spotting neurodegeneration years before symptoms appear. But can we trust invi…
Episode #3: Navigating Uncertainty with AI and Climate Intelligence
In the summer of 2021, devastating floods swept through Germany’s Ahr Valley, killing over 180 people and destroying homes, roads, and lives. How could such a disaster catch communities and policymakers so off guard?
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For decades, microbiological testing relied on culture-based methods. Samples had to be incubated and grown, then manually analyzed. This process usually took an average of 5–20 days before a contamination signal could be confirmed and acted upon. This timeline is no longer acceptable for industrie…
Second Order #1 Episode One: “When Technology Has to Be Trusted”
This is a series about innovative technologies once they leave the conceptual phase and have entered the practical phase in the real world, where decisions are irreversible, responsibility is human, and the impact goes far beyond the …
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