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Well, actually I've not come over the fear yet.
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Sometime even when I'm, you know, on the stake being the MC, you know, I was always worried about, you know, what they think about me, or like if I say something stupid or, you know, s something that makes me regret later.
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You know, it's I think it's happened for all of us.
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And but then I just think like we are all human.
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So we're allowed to be making some mistake.
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We're allowed to be selfish, disappointing, or or staying small.
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But the thing is that don't make that fear stop, you know, us to moving forward because at the end of the day, we come home and you know, yay, we survive, you know, okay.
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We're not we're not there to, you know, to battle something.
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But we battle ourselves.
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Because sometimes, you know, or the mistake or the problem, it seems bigger in our head than they actually actually are in the real life.
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So think about it, okay.
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So this problem seems serious right now, but everything will have some way, some, you know, some she do some um um some way to figure it out.
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So yeah, just allow, you know, uh ourselves to be mystic.
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But the things that I'm not allowing myself is to give up on myself.
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I know I'm gonna make a mistake.
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I know I'm gonna say something wrong, do something wrong in the future, but I won't let it beat me up, you know.
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I won't let it just stop me from growing up or stop me going out there on the stakes again.
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Like, what if I say something so wrong yesterday and today I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna be on the state anymore?
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You know, so we not we not allow that to happen.
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And yeah.
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How about you?
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Like, do you do you um there's some way, you know, you want to share with me or the audience?
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Like, how do you, you know, how do you solve that problem?
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Welcome everybody back to Sean's Learning Adventure.
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I have a really wonderful guest with me today.
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Can you tell people who you are and what you think?
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All right, thank you for inviting me.
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I'm so excited and you know, waiting for this podcast.
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Uh hi everyone, my name is V.
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I'm living uh in Georgia, Atlanta, and I have the opportunity to meet on Sean and TV like years ago.
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And, you know, very happy to see you all today.
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It's awesome because I I wanted to I wanted to talk to you because you have a really interesting story.
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You know, you moved to Georgia and you became an MC and you started doing all these things, but at the same time, you've been doing these really inspiring things.
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You mentioned talking about people struggling to find their path.
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You know, was there a time in your life when you truly didn't know who you were or what you wanted?
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Oh yeah.
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For now, I'm still, you know, trying to, you know, figuring myself out.
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I don't have the answer yet, but I think we all some point, you know, have that.
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You know, sometimes we feel like, oh, we know who we are.
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Sometimes we have a doubt, like, oh, are we choosing our right to pet or should we change it?
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Or we see everyone around us doing so well but us, right?
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So yeah, have you ever feel like that?
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I think almost every day.
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I mean, I think every day it's so easy to compare ourselves to people.
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And and people around us might look at us and go, oh, this person has it all figured out.
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But the reality is, is a lot of people are just putting one foot in front of the other.
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And even still they might feel like they're doing it wrong, you know?
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Mm-hmm.
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I see.
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So, um, you know, because like back in the day, I was born and raised in Vietnam in the 90s.
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And I think when your audience listened to it, they find something similar because we all have the same experience.
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Back in the day, our parents, they just didn't have time to, you know, get to know the children because the the priority was like how to make money.
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You know, to make sure to have food on a table every day, have school, you know, have money pay for school, clothes, you know, that's all they care about.
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It's not about they didn't care about how you know the children feel.
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It's just about they don't know it.
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They didn't know it.
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And it was like it wasn't necessary.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, so many of us growing up without, you know, our parents try to get to know us, like, how do you feel?
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What are you good about?
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Um like what do you want become?
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So yeah, it's not like parent now today.
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We have so many tools.
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We have YouTube, we have, you know, teacher to teach us how to be a good parent, how to listen to, you know, our kid.
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Yeah, it's it's way different.
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So I grow up like that.
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Like I didn't know what I'm good at.
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So sometimes growing up like that it makes us become very good at, you know, um doing things that we're supposed to without knowing we actually what what we want, you know, to do.
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And I'm not clamming them, it's just because that was the best they know how to do.
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They didn't know, you know, what else to do.
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Yeah, but I think um the important part is we don't give up to fly ourselves.
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Every day we get to know ourselves, you know.
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I I wanna get to know myself better.
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I want to know what is my weakness, I want to know what is my strength, I want to learn everything every day.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, it it's just like one thing in one time because we we can't know everything as well yet.
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Right.
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Yeah, that's one of the things too, is like one thing at a time.
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We get an answer for today, and then tomorrow, maybe the answers for tomorrow will be different.
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And yet we simply have to just keep putting our foot one foot in front of the other.
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And and you know, yet there are conversations, there are people who come along and help us find our path.
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And you know, looking back, what conversations had the biggest impact on helping you find your direction?
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Um, for me, there's no one conversations that help me to find my answer or find a pet.
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It's come from everybody.
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It's come it might come from a friend, it's come from a coworker, or you know, family member, a second cousin.
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I might see maybe one in every 10 years or someone's, you know, stranger that I will probably never see them again.
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So I I will like see how people react to their life when they get upset or when things don't go their way and how they say, you know, how they talk about it and how they react to it, you know, how they treat people.
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And sometimes when I see oh that person treat, you know, another person so well, I want to be myself.
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I want myself doing that as well.
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And sometimes I see other people react the way that I don't want myself to be like that.
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I can learn from that too.
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Like every single people who come past me or like random person actually can leave me something to study.
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You know, you know, like the way you do.
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So first of all, you you text me, you ask me, hey, you know, want to join the podcast?
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Yeah, yes.
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And then you send me the invitation, and then you send me a very detailed email sent on how I can lock into the link, how can I set up a boy or videos or everything.
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And it's make me feel like, oh, very Sean prepared very good for every single thing that he did, podcast.
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And then, you know, it's make me feel like um appreciate and then make me feel respected.
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So from there, I learned from you that uh if in the future I have something to do, I have a guest, I want to have a podcast.
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I would do the same thing that you do.
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Because I want people to feel the same way that you make, you know, your guest feel.
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So that's I learned from everyone reacts.
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I love that.
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Yeah.
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Because it's like, well, I love it because sorry to cut you off, because like we can all be better, you know.
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I I'm a dad.
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I try to parent my daughter.
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I try to parent well.
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There are days that I get it, there are days that I don't.
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But you know, when I watch other people doing the way that they do it, I try to be better.
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I am not perfect at all, but yet I think that we can try every day.
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You know, but for me, it wasn't one mentor, but I had a lot of people who came along and for a period of time showed me uh a better way to do something, you know.
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I I had my martial arts teacher Dan Linder, who was a great teacher for me.
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I had my my professor in school, uh Andrew Wheat, both amazing people.
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But I want to ask you, was there a mentor or teacher or a friend who asked you a question that completely changed the way you saw your future?
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Um, so maybe at the time, when they they shared with me something, I didn't think that much until later.
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So at this age, uh whatever my mom, my grandma, and my aunt teach me back in the day, I wasn't listen at all.
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But everything happened just exactly what like what they say.
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So um I don't have the person that actually like give me a you know conversations or teach me or you know, like um coaching or something like that.
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But um I can my my grandma is the you know the um the biggest influencer for me um I I want to share.
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So but because she is different, you know, she just like um she don't talk a lot.
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She just you know, I learned from her reacts about what stayed with me wasn't what she tell me.
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Like she wasn't sit me down and try to give me advice or anything, but like the way she lived.
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She never complained, she never, you know, um she barely asked him for help.
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And she raised that nice kid, uh her own kid, and then after she helped them to raise her entire children.
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Yeah.
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And I don't have like a person to sit me down and talk, you know, for how long for maybe I haven't met that person yet, but if I meet in the future, I would love to.
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But yeah, just like fun reacts and from little conversation.
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That's awesome because I know that like those little conversations have power.
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And you know, I watch these movies about people and they get that one mentor, that one person who tells them all the answers, you know, and I'm like, where's that guy for me?
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You know, where's my my chief, you know?
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It's like where's the the person who's gonna come and give me all I watch these kung fu movies, and there's always like one master who comes and tells everyone everything.
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I'm like, I want that person, but for me.
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Must away.
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Kung Fu Panda, you know?
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But like the the reality is that most of the time, um, I've found my answers one little step at a time.
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One little like thing at a time.
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And yet, you know, I one of the things I know that's really tough is that when people feel lost, they often keep everything inside.
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How important is it to talk openly about your fears and dreams?
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Yeah, that's linked to my grandma story, actually, because I was raised from her, you know.
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So I don't share my fears and dreams too, because the way she's so quiet.
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So I learned that, you know.
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But the thing is, I realized um she was the strongest woman that I have never known.
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And that she can handle herself, she can handle situation.
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She doesn't speak, she doesn't ask for help, doesn't mean that she she didn't have a struggle.
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I know she did.
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Um, but because she's so strong, so she finds a way to get through it, but it doesn't apply for everyone.
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I'm different.
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I I find out that when I hiding my fear, I don't share it to people, I don't share it.
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You know, at some get to some point, I need to share.
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I need to share.
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I'm not strong like her.
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So I think everyone has different ways to share the fear and dream.
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You know, actually it doesn't matter when or where, but actually it's a matter is who you're gonna share with.
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So I think people have to find someone that they are trust feel safe enough to share, especially the fears, you know.
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And you don't want to share with like a bunch of people and they just say, you know, it's just very disappointed.
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So I, you know, I try one and it got me disappointed.
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Then then I even hide myself more.
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I even like keep it for myself more.
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I don't, you know, I don't say it anymore.
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But to be honest, yeah, say your fear and your dream sometime out loud to someone trust it is really a help because, you know, they might have different like angles, the way they look at the life, you know, different angles that maybe give your s you know, you some answer, maybe give you a different direction that you actually never think about it, you never have an idea about it, you know.
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So yeah, everyone has different ways.
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And I hope everyone listen to the past.
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If they have the same troubles, same, you know, they don't want they don't know how to share with anyone.
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So just just keep it a little bit for yourself, as ask yourself, get to know yourself, and then when you find someone who you can trust, then you can share.
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Yeah.
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How about you?
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What do you think?
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I think having people you can talk to is really important.
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And I think it's challenging because people are gonna be afraid of being judged, people are gonna be afraid of sharing personal information.
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But I think if we don't share, uh the danger is that we try to do it all alone.
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Yeah.
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And you know, and I think that's challenging because you know, there are lots of challenges in the world and people have made it through.
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But by talking to someone by talking to someone, uh you can get the ability to um get a new perspective.
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And maybe that thing that you thought was so hard to fix is not.
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Maybe you just needed more information, you know, and I think that that's one of the things I love about interviewing people is I can hear people's perspectives.
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I started this because I didn't have all the information.
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I started these podcasts because I wanted to know more, and especially my Growing Money podcast, I started because I felt confused all the time.
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You know, and I want to ask you this because you you know, you're an MC and you interview people, you talk to people.
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Has talking to successful people changed your own perspective on what it means to live a meaningful life?
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Oh, yeah, definitely, yes.
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But it's maybe different from what people might expect.
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Um, you know, um when we we when we are see someone who's very confident work in the room, they are very confident to speak in front of a thousand people, you know, so successful.
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Um they know who they are, you know.
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We just wow, we love that energy.
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And we we question it, like what did they do?
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What did they do to get that?
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You know, how we become like that.
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But then I I I start to uh have, you know, I start to wondering about something else.
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Um questions like okay, so if that person goes home after they get close the door and they be by themselves, you know, no one around watching them, no one around give them compliment.
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And so at the time, what do they think about themselves?
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Do they love, you know, a simple themselves, just them, just nothing or else, just no no successful, no suit on, you know, just just a person.
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What do they think about themselves?
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Do they love themselves like that?
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So I at some point I think we are, you know, learn how to perform before we know how to know to understand ourselves.
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I don't mean to in a negative way because we all do it.
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We all try to fit in, we all try to be accepted, you know.
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So but sometimes we we show we have become very good at showing the word, the version of ourself before we actually know what is the real person of you know, of ourself.
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So I think we all do.
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And that's why when I interviewing many successful people, I learned that I try to I I become like very less interested in being impressive.
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I I don't try to impressive myself in you know in the the the out anymore.
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You know, for everyone else.
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So that's that's like teaching me a lot.
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And then I know some successful person that they they are not like try to show the world that they are successful, you know, but they are love, you know, every single thing, even small thing of themselves, and then they know bet they know themselves so well and from there you know they go one step at a time.
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Yeah, and that that's I learned that I will not try to impress myself.
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Like, you know, some of some of people they don't successful uh I they don't like um confident as they show the work, but some they it's the confidence from the inside.
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You know, I try to explain, I hope she understand you.
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No, it's it's completely you know, and I think that let me put it this way it's like in martial arts.
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We have Eilanian martial arts not hoping that she gets in a fight, but that if someone tries to hurt her or does something, she'll be ready.
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And the only way you can be ready is by practicing and training.
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The only way that you can be ready is by saying, hey, there's a problem here.
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Let's figure out a solution for this problem, let's figure out a way through this problem, let's figure out a way to um address the problem step by step and become better.
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No one got better at speaking by sitting in a room doing nothing.
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They got better by speaking.
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No one got better, you know, at cooking by staring at a recipe, a menu.
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They got better by cooking, you know?
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Yeah.
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And you know, if you want to be a great communicator, because for me, I believe that great communicators, um, communication is a great skill for success, whether whatever language you're speaking.
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And I want to ask you that, like, how has communication helped you create opportunities that you never expected?
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Oh, yes.
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Um communication helped me uh uh, you know, create a lot of opportunities.
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Uh I think communicate is very important support daily life or at works or, you know, for everything.
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Because sometimes you don't know when you meet one person at a party or you meet them in a meeting, and then you just sit in in the corner.
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You never know the what opportunity they can give to you.
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And when, you know, we openly have to communicate with with people, maybe six months later they find out, oh, actually, I remember that person, you know, she speaks about something that we are interesting in so we can hire her.
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You know, that that's happened a lot.
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Sometimes the opportunity doesn't come right away.
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It needs time to to approach or like the right time, the right person.
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And for me, uh, you know, communicate is something that's not inside your resume.
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Maybe when you read somebody's resume, it's an amazing person, you know, uh uh graduate Stanford, Harvard.
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you know, 10-year experience, you know, very impressive resume.
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But then that person come work in the office, they don't make they don't good at communicate.
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Then how we can work with them as as you know a teamwork.
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And then everybody gonna be gets you know the work gets so bad because we don't understand what he thinks.
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And then it's make a big gap with everyone else.
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And the problem we never solve.
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And sometimes me communication is not only about speaking.
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It's also about listening to.
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You know, I would like to, you know, observe people, idea, understand them, and then that house I can give them the answer.
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You know, and the the communication will keep going back and forth, back and forth because understanding, because speaking and listening at the same time.
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Yeah.
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If you're not listening, then you're only doing half of the communication.
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And I do podcasts all the time and I'm still failing at this.
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I had an opportunity yesterday to listen to someone and I didn't listen well.
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And I feel bad because if I had been able to listen better, the conversation would have gone better.
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And that's tough because we don't always know how to do it, you know?
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And I wanted to ask you this because you know how do you think we can be better listeners?
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What are some things that we can do to be better listeners?
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Actually I like when you are honestly that you admit something that you couldn't do, you could do better.
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I'm the same way.
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I'm the same way.
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Sometime my mouth is faster than my friends.
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Right.
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You know we're still growing up.
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You know even we I think we even like hundred years old we still need to grow up.
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So yes it is I do have some time that I that I couldn't you know um listen to that person and that I see some very important information and that I get very regret after that either personal communication or work communication and that you know lead me to something more serious.
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You know so to to get better of myself sometimes I have to tell myself hey you know I'm ready to have you know um important thing to do today or very important phone call.
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So tell myself slow down.
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Let them finish and one by one or I can write down what they you know just like short note like what they say what they say don't miss up anything and later on okay if I miss something they say so I can check list again and make sure you know I'm not missing anything.
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So that's maybe another way do you have any way better?
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Like I I mean like another way than you can recommend all of us.
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Well give yourself time to listen.
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I think that the easiest thing to do is to try to fill space.
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We all want to fill space we all want to be solving a problem but sometimes people don't need their problem solved sometimes they just need you to listen they need you to be hearing them and I mean again I'm saying this from personal experience because yesterday I did it wrong and I think that the best thing you can do is to slow down and not try to fill every last moment with noise because and that's not easy to do.
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It is not easy to do we are programmed to fill space with noise you know but I think that if you can slow down and give the person just space to talk to sit and listen they will feel more heard and the conversations in the future will go better.
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You know that doesn't mean that you don't try to help fix it.
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It doesn't mean that you don't try to find a way forward but it does mean that you're not rushing them as they need to say what they need to say.
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And I think that's the most important thing is giving people the space to share.
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You know I want to ask you this too though because many students are afraid to speak because they worry about making mistakes you know we're constantly in this performance mode you know whether we're listening whether we're giving a speech where we're talking to a person we love how do you overcome the fear of not being good enough or communicating wrong?
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Well actually I've not come over the fear yet sometimes even when I'm you know on the stake being the MC, you know I was always worried about you know what they think about me or like if I say something stupid or you know something that make me regret later.
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You know it's I think it's happened for all of us and but then I just think like we are all human.
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So we're allowed to making some mistake we're allowed to be selfish disappointing or or staying small.
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But the thing is that don't make that fear stop you know us to moving forward because at the end of the day we come home and you know yay we survive you know okay we're not we're not there to you know to battle something but we batter ourselves because sometimes you know or the mistake or the problem it seem bigger in our head than they are actually are in the real life.
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So think about it okay so this problem seems serious right now but everything will have some way some you know some some um um some way to figure it out so yeah just allow you know uh ourselves to be mystic but the things that I'm not allowing myself is to give up on myself.
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I know I'm gonna gonna make a mistake I know I'm gonna say something wrong do something wrong in the future but I won't let it beat me up you know I won't let it just stop me from growing up or stop me going out there on the stakes again like what if I say something so wrong yesterday and today I'm like okay I'm not gonna be on the state anymore you know so we're not we not allow that to happen.
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And yeah how about you like do you do you um there's some way you know you want to share with me or the audience like how do you you know how how do you solve that problem?
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First of all I'm gonna validate one thing that you're doing right now that no one does.
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No one has ever turned the question back on me ever in the podcast conversation.
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I've never this is literally the first time and I'm actually really wanting to call it out in a in a level of respect because it shows that you have learned that communications are two ways.
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And that's one of the things that's really powerful because when you have a conversation most people assume that they are the one with the most information and that is a big problem because I remember when I was younger I was talking to this one guy and I thought I don't know who this guy is you know he's he's a nobody he doesn't know um about this or that but the reality was I was talking to a person who was like an expert on a topic you know and I sat there thinking that I knew everything I needed to know um and the reality was this person in front of me was smarter than me way smarter than me and I mean it's not always going to be that way but if you don't build listening if you don't build um requesting of information into your conversation you might not be able to draw the wisdom out of that person and I think that that's powerful because especially when we feel lost when we feel confused and we feel like we don't know the way we might have a person sitting in front of us who knows the way they might have the information and the universe brought them there in that moment to help us but if you're not asking the right questions you'll never know.
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And I want to ask you that if you could give one piece of advice to someone who feels lost what conversation should they have first and with who?
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Okay so before you know we go out there and ask 10 people like hey what gonna I'm lost so what I'm gonna do with my life then I think we should have a conversation with ourselves and we're not alone we have me myself and I so we have no rush we have a ton of times in the life you know to get to know uh who we are the thing is like that follow me for the longest times I said you know from then I was right from you know um from my grandma my mom my aunt didn't never have time to talk to me so I don't know who am I I don't know what I'm being good you know that's why in age 33 I come back to college because when age 18 I don't know what I'm good at to apply for I went to college in Vietnam but then I halfway I fix it because this is not me because I don't know I didn't know like what is my penis.
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So after age 33 I have the answer maybe not yet you know right I don't know yet you know maybe a year later I quick score again I I don't know but the thing is like it's better than you have the answer the the have a question then you go to find the answer.
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So I want to tell the people like you maybe have the same you know struggling um I don't know who you are then yes spend some time to get to know yourself violent thing like wake up in the morning you know what do I like get a glass of water simple you know call your family you know and make sure you know feel loved it's very important when you feel loved you feel support you know yeah and then I like this uh never stop education yourself you don't have to um go to Harvard Stanford or get a master degree doctor degree you don't have to just study little little little and then at some point you find out like what you good at if you stop you know education stop right there you don't have any habit you don't try anything then how can you know you are good at that you you supposed you you that this is what you want right if you don't try everything.
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So that's why I try so many things and then maybe you know this thing right now it's it's it's a right for me.
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Or or if not then I try more.
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Yeah so just just get to know yourself and do not stop education read some book study 10 words every day for English you know that that just helps.
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Yeah.
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We don't study for a day we study for life.
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And if you're really doing it right you are trying to seek out knowledge for life and I think that's the most important thing is to be seeking out knowledge that will stay with you.
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And it's not just knowledge that is here for a moment and gone knowledge that truly is with you is going to be this deeper knowledge and that comes from um having conversations discovering things about yourself that you might not have learned otherwise and I think seeking out the right people to help you have those conversations whether that be a great teacher a great mentor or a great friend and I want to ask you this like what do you think people discover about themselves through conversations that they could never learn by themselves?
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Yes, yes, yes.
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I know uh the the sample um so it's a few months ago I didn't think that I can pass the exam for the college right so I'm rushing myself go online find a tutorial for myself from Vietnam I write like hey can you teach me math, English you know everything and then I get a bunch of messages uh you know uh email messages and then I pick some tour for myself and then one of my friends told me you know why I'm doubt of myself and compare myself to a year ago.
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Do I do it better now?
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And I was like yes I am I actually know a lot of things more than a year ago you know where I was and then when the exam came I didn't have a tutor yet I think I'm gonna fail that class I think I'm gonna fail the exam.
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So when the the exam came I did it and I passed it um not excited core but it's cool but is enough and then I'm like wow actually I don't need to tutor I just learned by myself then so actually that person can see something out of me that I'm too close to see for myself.
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Yeah so that's one and then another person say um maybe you can uh be easy to other but hard on yourself don't do it opposite way will make your life easier so yeah so easy on other person but hard on yourself will make it other way you know is it don't don't do opposite so I think oh yeah that's that's that's work because like when I see somebody doing something you know I'm wrong or something okay well it's okay but then I don't allow myself to do that.
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That'll be easier for me.
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So there is a lot of line that my friends tell me that I cannot list it now for you but it will apply for me in the future when the situation comes and then that lie will come along to me and I will apply to in you know the end of life.
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Well do you have okay so question for you do you have yeah a lie for me that you really love that someone gave you that you know one or two or feel that you it's work for you all the time maybe I can use that lie for myself too I was watching a clip yesterday and it was showing this guy and he asked this other guy do you want to be a millionaire?
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Yes do you think you can pull it off he's like I don't know how how about a billionaire do you want to do it?
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Yeah I'd love to be a billionaire I don't know how then he handed him a Rubik's cube and he said do you know how to solve this Rubik's cube no I I don't know how to do that and he then handed him the instructions he says these are the instructions if you follow this you can do the Rubik's Cube and the guy's like I see what you're trying to say there's not you know but you know how do I become a billionaire is different from a Rubik's Cube.
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He's like is it is it that much harder to to to achieve goals in your life he's like what he was getting to is if you want to achieve something there's always a way but you have to be willing to dig deeper to find that way you want to um move to a new country and start a new life go for it but you have to figure out how.
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You have to figure out what are the steps to do it.
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And sometimes we have to pivot sometimes what it is is not wanting to move to a place it's wanting the validation that would come from that I want to start a company.
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Well why do you want to start a company well I want more free time well then you might want to look at something else because starting a company doesn't always mean you have more free time it means that you're building something for yourself.
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So if you want more free time for you and your family maybe pivot you know and find out what it is that you really want because that's the question I think people have to figure out once you figure out what you want there is a way to get there but you have to um be talking to the right people you have to be doing the right things and I mean I don't think there are wrong things but there are things that you might be doing that are going to cause you to have more time taken until you achieve your goals and you know I I I that being said I think it's a day-by-day journey you will not wake up today with all of the answers you just won't but you will wake up today with enough information to seek out the right answers and often that requires asking the right questions and asking the right questions means that you need to talk to more people to know which questions to ask that would be my thing but I want to ask you one more question.
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If you could leave students or anybody with one message about finding themselves their voice and building confidence through communication what would it be?
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It's all linked to all the answer that you know we talked about earlier again I would say you know get to know ourselves first.
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Yeah and there there is something maybe when you look at the mirror I think is it right when all the ladies the female when they look at themselves in the mirror they see the ugliest thing first and then opposite when the when the men looking at themselves in the mirror they will see what is the most part they love the first is that true I don't know I I I think sometimes I find my faults but I think looking at the mirror and finding your faults is so painful.
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You know I think we have to look for the things we're doing right I think you know what me and my friends I have conversations and say yeah all the women when the even the pretty woman like is she's so pretty but like when she when she you know when I we heard her talking she always looked at you know like the part that she doesn't like and we don't even find any problem about it you know so I think the message for for for us is love you know even though the ugly thing in your body or some mistake you make in the past, you know, accept it.
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Accept yourself.
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And then we can't change it.
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We can change the past or we can change maybe you know you can have like some such a flash you know flash is a three it's okay you know but then even though there's something you don't you you think oh this is not pretty but like accepts it and loves it and learn how to you know get better the the mystic in the past fix it don't make it in the future or you know try to you know like uh wear the clothes and to fix your your your you know highset or something but accept it um because I think at the end of the day when when we are you know back home with ourselves alone you know we usually just think oh think about it.
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We all think about you know we we I don't know if it's me or everyone else think about it but like I would think about like looking back or what I did if we regret everything, you know and it at some point it stopped me being confident, you know, being like comfortable but then yeah one day I was okay less let's accept it.
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It's already gone.
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It's the past yeah just to be in the present moment is the most beautiful thing you can be.
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Yeah there's a message.
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Yeah just accepts it.
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Maybe you know your back rows or everything that make you unhappy.
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I I know there's a lot of people they they they're not they nonstop you know comparing themselves with other people who who have the better life or luck more luckier, you know it's very exotic.
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So it just accepts it and move forward and be better in the future one step at a time.
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Right?
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One step at a time I wanna ask where can people go to find out more about you and what you do?
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Oh I base in Atlanta and MC we can you know people can find me on a Facebook at MC Hung V my name is Hung and yeah I do events hopefully this other in Atlanta and Georgia
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Well, actually I've not come over the fear yet.
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Sometime even when I'm, you know, on the stake being the MC, you know, I was always worried about, you know, what they think about me, or like if I say something stupid or, you know, s something that makes me regret later.
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You know, it's I think it's happened for all of us.
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And but then I just think like we are all human.
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So we're allowed to be making some mistake.
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We're allowed to be selfish, disappointing, or or staying small.
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But the thing is that don't make that fear stop, you know, us to moving forward because at the end of the day, we come home and you know, yay, we survive, you know, okay.
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We're not we're not there to, you know, to battle something.
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But we battle ourselves.
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Because sometimes, you know, or the mistake or the problem, it seems bigger in our head than they actually actually are in the real life.
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So think about it, okay.
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So this problem seems serious right now, but everything will have some way, some, you know, some she do some um um some way to figure it out.
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So yeah, just allow, you know, uh ourselves to be mystic.
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But the things that I'm not allowing myself is to give up on myself.
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I know I'm gonna make a mistake.
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I know I'm gonna say something wrong, do something wrong in the future, but I won't let it beat me up, you know.
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I won't let it just stop me from growing up or stop me going out there on the stakes again.
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Like, what if I say something so wrong yesterday and today I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna be on the state anymore?
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You know, so we not we not allow that to happen.
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And yeah.
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How about you?
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Like, do you do you um there's some way, you know, you want to share with me or the audience?
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Like, how do you, you know, how do you solve that problem?
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Welcome everybody back to Sean's Learning Adventure.
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I have a really wonderful guest with me today.
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Can you tell people who you are and what you think?
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All right, thank you for inviting me.
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I'm so excited and you know, waiting for this podcast.
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Uh hi everyone, my name is V.
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I'm living uh in Georgia, Atlanta, and I have the opportunity to meet on Sean and TV like years ago.
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And, you know, very happy to see you all today.
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It's awesome because I I wanted to I wanted to talk to you because you have a really interesting story.
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You know, you moved to Georgia and you became an MC and you started doing all these things, but at the same time, you've been doing these really inspiring things.
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You mentioned talking about people struggling to find their path.
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You know, was there a time in your life when you truly didn't know who you were or what you wanted?
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Oh yeah.
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For now, I'm still, you know, trying to, you know, figuring myself out.
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I don't have the answer yet, but I think we all some point, you know, have that.
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You know, sometimes we feel like, oh, we know who we are.
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Sometimes we have a doubt, like, oh, are we choosing our right to pet or should we change it?
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Or we see everyone around us doing so well but us, right?
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So yeah, have you ever feel like that?
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I think almost every day.
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I mean, I think every day it's so easy to compare ourselves to people.
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And and people around us might look at us and go, oh, this person has it all figured out.
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But the reality is, is a lot of people are just putting one foot in front of the other.
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And even still they might feel like they're doing it wrong, you know?
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Mm-hmm.
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I see.
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So, um, you know, because like back in the day, I was born and raised in Vietnam in the 90s.
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And I think when your audience listened to it, they find something similar because we all have the same experience.
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Back in the day, our parents, they just didn't have time to, you know, get to know the children because the the priority was like how to make money.
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You know, to make sure to have food on a table every day, have school, you know, have money pay for school, clothes, you know, that's all they care about.
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It's not about they didn't care about how you know the children feel.
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It's just about they don't know it.
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They didn't know it.
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And it was like it wasn't necessary.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, so many of us growing up without, you know, our parents try to get to know us, like, how do you feel?
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What are you good about?
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Um like what do you want become?
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So yeah, it's not like parent now today.
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We have so many tools.
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We have YouTube, we have, you know, teacher to teach us how to be a good parent, how to listen to, you know, our kid.
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Yeah, it's it's way different.
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So I grow up like that.
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Like I didn't know what I'm good at.
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So sometimes growing up like that it makes us become very good at, you know, um doing things that we're supposed to without knowing we actually what what we want, you know, to do.
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And I'm not clamming them, it's just because that was the best they know how to do.
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They didn't know, you know, what else to do.
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Yeah, but I think um the important part is we don't give up to fly ourselves.
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Every day we get to know ourselves, you know.
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I I wanna get to know myself better.
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I want to know what is my weakness, I want to know what is my strength, I want to learn everything every day.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, it it's just like one thing in one time because we we can't know everything as well yet.
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Right.
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Yeah, that's one of the things too, is like one thing at a time.
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We get an answer for today, and then tomorrow, maybe the answers for tomorrow will be different.
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And yet we simply have to just keep putting our foot one foot in front of the other.
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And and you know, yet there are conversations, there are people who come along and help us find our path.
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And you know, looking back, what conversations had the biggest impact on helping you find your direction?
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Um, for me, there's no one conversations that help me to find my answer or find a pet.
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It's come from everybody.
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It's come it might come from a friend, it's come from a coworker, or you know, family member, a second cousin.
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I might see maybe one in every 10 years or someone's, you know, stranger that I will probably never see them again.
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So I I will like see how people react to their life when they get upset or when things don't go their way and how they say, you know, how they talk about it and how they react to it, you know, how they treat people.
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And sometimes when I see oh that person treat, you know, another person so well, I want to be myself.
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I want myself doing that as well.
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And sometimes I see other people react the way that I don't want myself to be like that.
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I can learn from that too.
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Like every single people who come past me or like random person actually can leave me something to study.
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You know, you know, like the way you do.
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So first of all, you you text me, you ask me, hey, you know, want to join the podcast?
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Yeah, yes.
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And then you send me the invitation, and then you send me a very detailed email sent on how I can lock into the link, how can I set up a boy or videos or everything.
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And it's make me feel like, oh, very Sean prepared very good for every single thing that he did, podcast.
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And then, you know, it's make me feel like um appreciate and then make me feel respected.
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So from there, I learned from you that uh if in the future I have something to do, I have a guest, I want to have a podcast.
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I would do the same thing that you do.
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Because I want people to feel the same way that you make, you know, your guest feel.
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So that's I learned from everyone reacts.
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I love that.
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Yeah.
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Because it's like, well, I love it because sorry to cut you off, because like we can all be better, you know.
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I I'm a dad.
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I try to parent my daughter.
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I try to parent well.
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There are days that I get it, there are days that I don't.
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But you know, when I watch other people doing the way that they do it, I try to be better.
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I am not perfect at all, but yet I think that we can try every day.
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You know, but for me, it wasn't one mentor, but I had a lot of people who came along and for a period of time showed me uh a better way to do something, you know.
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I I had my martial arts teacher Dan Linder, who was a great teacher for me.
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I had my my professor in school, uh Andrew Wheat, both amazing people.
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But I want to ask you, was there a mentor or teacher or a friend who asked you a question that completely changed the way you saw your future?
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Um, so maybe at the time, when they they shared with me something, I didn't think that much until later.
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So at this age, uh whatever my mom, my grandma, and my aunt teach me back in the day, I wasn't listen at all.
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But everything happened just exactly what like what they say.
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So um I don't have the person that actually like give me a you know conversations or teach me or you know, like um coaching or something like that.
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But um I can my my grandma is the you know the um the biggest influencer for me um I I want to share.
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So but because she is different, you know, she just like um she don't talk a lot.
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She just you know, I learned from her reacts about what stayed with me wasn't what she tell me.
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Like she wasn't sit me down and try to give me advice or anything, but like the way she lived.
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She never complained, she never, you know, um she barely asked him for help.
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And she raised that nice kid, uh her own kid, and then after she helped them to raise her entire children.
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Yeah.
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And I don't have like a person to sit me down and talk, you know, for how long for maybe I haven't met that person yet, but if I meet in the future, I would love to.
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But yeah, just like fun reacts and from little conversation.
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That's awesome because I know that like those little conversations have power.
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And you know, I watch these movies about people and they get that one mentor, that one person who tells them all the answers, you know, and I'm like, where's that guy for me?
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You know, where's my my chief, you know?
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It's like where's the the person who's gonna come and give me all I watch these kung fu movies, and there's always like one master who comes and tells everyone everything.
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I'm like, I want that person, but for me.
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Must away.
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Kung Fu Panda, you know?
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But like the the reality is that most of the time, um, I've found my answers one little step at a time.
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One little like thing at a time.
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And yet, you know, I one of the things I know that's really tough is that when people feel lost, they often keep everything inside.
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How important is it to talk openly about your fears and dreams?
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Yeah, that's linked to my grandma story, actually, because I was raised from her, you know.
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So I don't share my fears and dreams too, because the way she's so quiet.
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So I learned that, you know.
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But the thing is, I realized um she was the strongest woman that I have never known.
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And that she can handle herself, she can handle situation.
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She doesn't speak, she doesn't ask for help, doesn't mean that she she didn't have a struggle.
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I know she did.
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Um, but because she's so strong, so she finds a way to get through it, but it doesn't apply for everyone.
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I'm different.
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I I find out that when I hiding my fear, I don't share it to people, I don't share it.
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You know, at some get to some point, I need to share.
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I need to share.
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I'm not strong like her.
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So I think everyone has different ways to share the fear and dream.
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You know, actually it doesn't matter when or where, but actually it's a matter is who you're gonna share with.
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So I think people have to find someone that they are trust feel safe enough to share, especially the fears, you know.
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And you don't want to share with like a bunch of people and they just say, you know, it's just very disappointed.
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So I, you know, I try one and it got me disappointed.
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Then then I even hide myself more.
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I even like keep it for myself more.
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I don't, you know, I don't say it anymore.
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But to be honest, yeah, say your fear and your dream sometime out loud to someone trust it is really a help because, you know, they might have different like angles, the way they look at the life, you know, different angles that maybe give your s you know, you some answer, maybe give you a different direction that you actually never think about it, you never have an idea about it, you know.
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So yeah, everyone has different ways.
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And I hope everyone listen to the past.
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If they have the same troubles, same, you know, they don't want they don't know how to share with anyone.
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So just just keep it a little bit for yourself, as ask yourself, get to know yourself, and then when you find someone who you can trust, then you can share.
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Yeah.
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How about you?
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What do you think?
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I think having people you can talk to is really important.
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And I think it's challenging because people are gonna be afraid of being judged, people are gonna be afraid of sharing personal information.
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But I think if we don't share, uh the danger is that we try to do it all alone.
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Yeah.
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And you know, and I think that's challenging because you know, there are lots of challenges in the world and people have made it through.
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But by talking to someone by talking to someone, uh you can get the ability to um get a new perspective.
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And maybe that thing that you thought was so hard to fix is not.
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Maybe you just needed more information, you know, and I think that that's one of the things I love about interviewing people is I can hear people's perspectives.
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I started this because I didn't have all the information.
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I started these podcasts because I wanted to know more, and especially my Growing Money podcast, I started because I felt confused all the time.
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You know, and I want to ask you this because you you know, you're an MC and you interview people, you talk to people.
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Has talking to successful people changed your own perspective on what it means to live a meaningful life?
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Oh, yeah, definitely, yes.
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But it's maybe different from what people might expect.
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Um, you know, um when we we when we are see someone who's very confident work in the room, they are very confident to speak in front of a thousand people, you know, so successful.
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Um they know who they are, you know.
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We just wow, we love that energy.
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And we we question it, like what did they do?
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What did they do to get that?
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You know, how we become like that.
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But then I I I start to uh have, you know, I start to wondering about something else.
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Um questions like okay, so if that person goes home after they get close the door and they be by themselves, you know, no one around watching them, no one around give them compliment.
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And so at the time, what do they think about themselves?
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Do they love, you know, a simple themselves, just them, just nothing or else, just no no successful, no suit on, you know, just just a person.
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What do they think about themselves?
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Do they love themselves like that?
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So I at some point I think we are, you know, learn how to perform before we know how to know to understand ourselves.
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I don't mean to in a negative way because we all do it.
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We all try to fit in, we all try to be accepted, you know.
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So but sometimes we we show we have become very good at showing the word, the version of ourself before we actually know what is the real person of you know, of ourself.
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So I think we all do.
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And that's why when I interviewing many successful people, I learned that I try to I I become like very less interested in being impressive.
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I I don't try to impressive myself in you know in the the the out anymore.
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You know, for everyone else.
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So that's that's like teaching me a lot.
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And then I know some successful person that they they are not like try to show the world that they are successful, you know, but they are love, you know, every single thing, even small thing of themselves, and then they know bet they know themselves so well and from there you know they go one step at a time.
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Yeah, and that that's I learned that I will not try to impress myself.
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Like, you know, some of some of people they don't successful uh I they don't like um confident as they show the work, but some they it's the confidence from the inside.
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You know, I try to explain, I hope she understand you.
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No, it's it's completely you know, and I think that let me put it this way it's like in martial arts.
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We have Eilanian martial arts not hoping that she gets in a fight, but that if someone tries to hurt her or does something, she'll be ready.
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And the only way you can be ready is by practicing and training.
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The only way that you can be ready is by saying, hey, there's a problem here.
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Let's figure out a solution for this problem, let's figure out a way through this problem, let's figure out a way to um address the problem step by step and become better.
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No one got better at speaking by sitting in a room doing nothing.
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They got better by speaking.
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No one got better, you know, at cooking by staring at a recipe, a menu.
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They got better by cooking, you know?
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Yeah.
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And you know, if you want to be a great communicator, because for me, I believe that great communicators, um, communication is a great skill for success, whether whatever language you're speaking.
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And I want to ask you that, like, how has communication helped you create opportunities that you never expected?
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Oh, yes.
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Um communication helped me uh uh, you know, create a lot of opportunities.
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Uh I think communicate is very important support daily life or at works or, you know, for everything.
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Because sometimes you don't know when you meet one person at a party or you meet them in a meeting, and then you just sit in in the corner.
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You never know the what opportunity they can give to you.
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And when, you know, we openly have to communicate with with people, maybe six months later they find out, oh, actually, I remember that person, you know, she speaks about something that we are interesting in so we can hire her.
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You know, that that's happened a lot.
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Sometimes the opportunity doesn't come right away.
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It needs time to to approach or like the right time, the right person.
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And for me, uh, you know, communicate is something that's not inside your resume.
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Maybe when you read somebody's resume, it's an amazing person, you know, uh uh graduate Stanford, Harvard.
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you know, 10-year experience, you know, very impressive resume.
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But then that person come work in the office, they don't make they don't good at communicate.
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Then how we can work with them as as you know a teamwork.
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And then everybody gonna be gets you know the work gets so bad because we don't understand what he thinks.
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And then it's make a big gap with everyone else.
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And the problem we never solve.
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And sometimes me communication is not only about speaking.
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It's also about listening to.
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You know, I would like to, you know, observe people, idea, understand them, and then that house I can give them the answer.
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You know, and the the communication will keep going back and forth, back and forth because understanding, because speaking and listening at the same time.
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Yeah.
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If you're not listening, then you're only doing half of the communication.
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And I do podcasts all the time and I'm still failing at this.
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I had an opportunity yesterday to listen to someone and I didn't listen well.
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And I feel bad because if I had been able to listen better, the conversation would have gone better.
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And that's tough because we don't always know how to do it, you know?
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And I wanted to ask you this because you know how do you think we can be better listeners?
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What are some things that we can do to be better listeners?
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Actually I like when you are honestly that you admit something that you couldn't do, you could do better.
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I'm the same way.
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I'm the same way.
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Sometime my mouth is faster than my friends.
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Right.
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You know we're still growing up.
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You know even we I think we even like hundred years old we still need to grow up.
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So yes it is I do have some time that I that I couldn't you know um listen to that person and that I see some very important information and that I get very regret after that either personal communication or work communication and that you know lead me to something more serious.
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You know so to to get better of myself sometimes I have to tell myself hey you know I'm ready to have you know um important thing to do today or very important phone call.
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So tell myself slow down.
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Let them finish and one by one or I can write down what they you know just like short note like what they say what they say don't miss up anything and later on okay if I miss something they say so I can check list again and make sure you know I'm not missing anything.
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So that's maybe another way do you have any way better?
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Like I I mean like another way than you can recommend all of us.
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Well give yourself time to listen.
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I think that the easiest thing to do is to try to fill space.
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We all want to fill space we all want to be solving a problem but sometimes people don't need their problem solved sometimes they just need you to listen they need you to be hearing them and I mean again I'm saying this from personal experience because yesterday I did it wrong and I think that the best thing you can do is to slow down and not try to fill every last moment with noise because and that's not easy to do.
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It is not easy to do we are programmed to fill space with noise you know but I think that if you can slow down and give the person just space to talk to sit and listen they will feel more heard and the conversations in the future will go better.
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You know that doesn't mean that you don't try to help fix it.
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It doesn't mean that you don't try to find a way forward but it does mean that you're not rushing them as they need to say what they need to say.
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And I think that's the most important thing is giving people the space to share.
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You know I want to ask you this too though because many students are afraid to speak because they worry about making mistakes you know we're constantly in this performance mode you know whether we're listening whether we're giving a speech where we're talking to a person we love how do you overcome the fear of not being good enough or communicating wrong?
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Well actually I've not come over the fear yet sometimes even when I'm you know on the stake being the MC, you know I was always worried about you know what they think about me or like if I say something stupid or you know something that make me regret later.
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You know it's I think it's happened for all of us and but then I just think like we are all human.
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So we're allowed to making some mistake we're allowed to be selfish disappointing or or staying small.
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But the thing is that don't make that fear stop you know us to moving forward because at the end of the day we come home and you know yay we survive you know okay we're not we're not there to you know to battle something but we batter ourselves because sometimes you know or the mistake or the problem it seem bigger in our head than they are actually are in the real life.
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So think about it okay so this problem seems serious right now but everything will have some way some you know some some um um some way to figure it out so yeah just allow you know uh ourselves to be mystic but the things that I'm not allowing myself is to give up on myself.
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I know I'm gonna gonna make a mistake I know I'm gonna say something wrong do something wrong in the future but I won't let it beat me up you know I won't let it just stop me from growing up or stop me going out there on the stakes again like what if I say something so wrong yesterday and today I'm like okay I'm not gonna be on the state anymore you know so we're not we not allow that to happen.
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And yeah how about you like do you do you um there's some way you know you want to share with me or the audience like how do you you know how how do you solve that problem?
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First of all I'm gonna validate one thing that you're doing right now that no one does.
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No one has ever turned the question back on me ever in the podcast conversation.
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I've never this is literally the first time and I'm actually really wanting to call it out in a in a level of respect because it shows that you have learned that communications are two ways.
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And that's one of the things that's really powerful because when you have a conversation most people assume that they are the one with the most information and that is a big problem because I remember when I was younger I was talking to this one guy and I thought I don't know who this guy is you know he's he's a nobody he doesn't know um about this or that but the reality was I was talking to a person who was like an expert on a topic you know and I sat there thinking that I knew everything I needed to know um and the reality was this person in front of me was smarter than me way smarter than me and I mean it's not always going to be that way but if you don't build listening if you don't build um requesting of information into your conversation you might not be able to draw the wisdom out of that person and I think that that's powerful because especially when we feel lost when we feel confused and we feel like we don't know the way we might have a person sitting in front of us who knows the way they might have the information and the universe brought them there in that moment to help us but if you're not asking the right questions you'll never know.
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And I want to ask you that if you could give one piece of advice to someone who feels lost what conversation should they have first and with who?
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Okay so before you know we go out there and ask 10 people like hey what gonna I'm lost so what I'm gonna do with my life then I think we should have a conversation with ourselves and we're not alone we have me myself and I so we have no rush we have a ton of times in the life you know to get to know uh who we are the thing is like that follow me for the longest times I said you know from then I was right from you know um from my grandma my mom my aunt didn't never have time to talk to me so I don't know who am I I don't know what I'm being good you know that's why in age 33 I come back to college because when age 18 I don't know what I'm good at to apply for I went to college in Vietnam but then I halfway I fix it because this is not me because I don't know I didn't know like what is my penis.
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So after age 33 I have the answer maybe not yet you know right I don't know yet you know maybe a year later I quick score again I I don't know but the thing is like it's better than you have the answer the the have a question then you go to find the answer.
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So I want to tell the people like you maybe have the same you know struggling um I don't know who you are then yes spend some time to get to know yourself violent thing like wake up in the morning you know what do I like get a glass of water simple you know call your family you know and make sure you know feel loved it's very important when you feel loved you feel support you know yeah and then I like this uh never stop education yourself you don't have to um go to Harvard Stanford or get a master degree doctor degree you don't have to just study little little little and then at some point you find out like what you good at if you stop you know education stop right there you don't have any habit you don't try anything then how can you know you are good at that you you supposed you you that this is what you want right if you don't try everything.
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So that's why I try so many things and then maybe you know this thing right now it's it's it's a right for me.
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Or or if not then I try more.
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Yeah so just just get to know yourself and do not stop education read some book study 10 words every day for English you know that that just helps.
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Yeah.
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We don't study for a day we study for life.
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And if you're really doing it right you are trying to seek out knowledge for life and I think that's the most important thing is to be seeking out knowledge that will stay with you.
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And it's not just knowledge that is here for a moment and gone knowledge that truly is with you is going to be this deeper knowledge and that comes from um having conversations discovering things about yourself that you might not have learned otherwise and I think seeking out the right people to help you have those conversations whether that be a great teacher a great mentor or a great friend and I want to ask you this like what do you think people discover about themselves through conversations that they could never learn by themselves?
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Yes, yes, yes.
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I know uh the the sample um so it's a few months ago I didn't think that I can pass the exam for the college right so I'm rushing myself go online find a tutorial for myself from Vietnam I write like hey can you teach me math, English you know everything and then I get a bunch of messages uh you know uh email messages and then I pick some tour for myself and then one of my friends told me you know why I'm doubt of myself and compare myself to a year ago.
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Do I do it better now?
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And I was like yes I am I actually know a lot of things more than a year ago you know where I was and then when the exam came I didn't have a tutor yet I think I'm gonna fail that class I think I'm gonna fail the exam.
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So when the the exam came I did it and I passed it um not excited core but it's cool but is enough and then I'm like wow actually I don't need to tutor I just learned by myself then so actually that person can see something out of me that I'm too close to see for myself.
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Yeah so that's one and then another person say um maybe you can uh be easy to other but hard on yourself don't do it opposite way will make your life easier so yeah so easy on other person but hard on yourself will make it other way you know is it don't don't do opposite so I think oh yeah that's that's that's work because like when I see somebody doing something you know I'm wrong or something okay well it's okay but then I don't allow myself to do that.
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That'll be easier for me.
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So there is a lot of line that my friends tell me that I cannot list it now for you but it will apply for me in the future when the situation comes and then that lie will come along to me and I will apply to in you know the end of life.
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Well do you have okay so question for you do you have yeah a lie for me that you really love that someone gave you that you know one or two or feel that you it's work for you all the time maybe I can use that lie for myself too I was watching a clip yesterday and it was showing this guy and he asked this other guy do you want to be a millionaire?
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Yes do you think you can pull it off he's like I don't know how how about a billionaire do you want to do it?
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Yeah I'd love to be a billionaire I don't know how then he handed him a Rubik's cube and he said do you know how to solve this Rubik's cube no I I don't know how to do that and he then handed him the instructions he says these are the instructions if you follow this you can do the Rubik's Cube and the guy's like I see what you're trying to say there's not you know but you know how do I become a billionaire is different from a Rubik's Cube.
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He's like is it is it that much harder to to to achieve goals in your life he's like what he was getting to is if you want to achieve something there's always a way but you have to be willing to dig deeper to find that way you want to um move to a new country and start a new life go for it but you have to figure out how.
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You have to figure out what are the steps to do it.
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And sometimes we have to pivot sometimes what it is is not wanting to move to a place it's wanting the validation that would come from that I want to start a company.
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Well why do you want to start a company well I want more free time well then you might want to look at something else because starting a company doesn't always mean you have more free time it means that you're building something for yourself.
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So if you want more free time for you and your family maybe pivot you know and find out what it is that you really want because that's the question I think people have to figure out once you figure out what you want there is a way to get there but you have to um be talking to the right people you have to be doing the right things and I mean I don't think there are wrong things but there are things that you might be doing that are going to cause you to have more time taken until you achieve your goals and you know I I I that being said I think it's a day-by-day journey you will not wake up today with all of the answers you just won't but you will wake up today with enough information to seek out the right answers and often that requires asking the right questions and asking the right questions means that you need to talk to more people to know which questions to ask that would be my thing but I want to ask you one more question.
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If you could leave students or anybody with one message about finding themselves their voice and building confidence through communication what would it be?
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It's all linked to all the answer that you know we talked about earlier again I would say you know get to know ourselves first.
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Yeah and there there is something maybe when you look at the mirror I think is it right when all the ladies the female when they look at themselves in the mirror they see the ugliest thing first and then opposite when the when the men looking at themselves in the mirror they will see what is the most part they love the first is that true I don't know I I I think sometimes I find my faults but I think looking at the mirror and finding your faults is so painful.
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You know I think we have to look for the things we're doing right I think you know what me and my friends I have conversations and say yeah all the women when the even the pretty woman like is she's so pretty but like when she when she you know when I we heard her talking she always looked at you know like the part that she doesn't like and we don't even find any problem about it you know so I think the message for for for us is love you know even though the ugly thing in your body or some mistake you make in the past, you know, accept it.
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Accept yourself.
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And then we can't change it.
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We can change the past or we can change maybe you know you can have like some such a flash you know flash is a three it's okay you know but then even though there's something you don't you you think oh this is not pretty but like accepts it and loves it and learn how to you know get better the the mystic in the past fix it don't make it in the future or you know try to you know like uh wear the clothes and to fix your your your you know highset or something but accept it um because I think at the end of the day when when we are you know back home with ourselves alone you know we usually just think oh think about it.
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We all think about you know we we I don't know if it's me or everyone else think about it but like I would think about like looking back or what I did if we regret everything, you know and it at some point it stopped me being confident, you know, being like comfortable but then yeah one day I was okay less let's accept it.
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It's already gone.
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It's the past yeah just to be in the present moment is the most beautiful thing you can be.
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Yeah there's a message.
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Yeah just accepts it.
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Maybe you know your back rows or everything that make you unhappy.
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I I know there's a lot of people they they they're not they nonstop you know comparing themselves with other people who who have the better life or luck more luckier, you know it's very exotic.
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So it just accepts it and move forward and be better in the future one step at a time.
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Right?
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One step at a time I wanna ask where can people go to find out more about you and what you do?
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Oh I base in Atlanta and MC we can you know people can find me on a Facebook at MC Hung V my name is Hung and yeah I do events hopefully this other in Atlanta and Georgia
