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Navigating Noise is a weekly interview show about how critical decisions get made when the data behind them breaks down. Hosts Jonathan Teubner, founder of AI intelligence company FilterLabs, and Erol Yayboke, former Pentagon deputy chief of staff, talk with analysts, operators, and decision-makers working in intelligence and information operations. Each episode asks one question: how do you know what's actually happening in places that are hard to see? Season 2 covers the data supply chain behind info ops, the analyst under pressure, and the future of the craft.
Update frequency:
weekly
Average audio length:
48 minutes
Guest interviews
English
United States
37 episodes
since Oct. 23, 2024
episodic
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For two decades, the information operations community has sold activity. Messages disseminated, impressions served, reach and click rates. Carrick Longley spent his career inside that business and came to a blunt conclusion: almost nobody can point to a single decision that changed.
Longley is the…
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One of these founders spent his twenties reading Augustine of Hippo in the original Latin, watching how a theologian made sense of an empire falling apart. The other spent his career in Ramadi, South Sudan and Anbar, then wrote about how Augustus Caesar built an empire using the oldest propaganda m…
One of these founders spent his twenties reading Augustine of Hippo in the original Latin, watching how a theologian made sense of an empire falling apart. The other spent his career in Ramadi, South Sudan and Anbar, then wrote about how Augustus Caesar built an empire using the oldest propaganda m…
Navigating Noise is a weekly interview show about how the world's most critical decisions get made, and what happens when the data behind them breaks down. Hosts Jonathan Teubner and Erol Yayboke talk to the people working at the edge of intelligence, influence, and strategic competition.
Stephen H…
On February 4, 2025, ten people were murdered at a school in Örebro, the deadliest mass shooting in Sweden's history. Then came a silence that the internet filled for days. Kristian Ljungberg holds national responsibility for how the Swedish Police communicate on days like that, and his read on wha…
In May, Ukrainians woke up to an avalanche of posts about hundreds of thousands of migrants flooding into their country, exempt from the draft, replacing Ukrainians, even renaming their cities. Influencers made TikToks about it. Public broadcasters ran explainers debunking it. Within four days it w…
For 6 years, Tetiana Haiduchyk has run a controlled experiment most people never hear about. Her team goes onto the open market, pays a few hundred euros for fake social media engagement, and measures whether the world's biggest platforms can detect and remove it. Mostly, they can't.
Tetiana is Hea…
For ten years, Dr. Joshua "Bugsy" Segal's job was certainty. As a US arms-control negotiator and on-site weapons inspector (the Chemical Weapons Convention, UNSCOM in Iraq), he built the machinery that proves whether a country is lying about its weapons. Then, one month after 9/11, he wal…
In 2024, Jay Janzen told this show weaponized AI content was "minutes away." Two years later he's back with a blunt update: "We're definitely there." And the adversaries deploying it have no limits.
Janzen is NATO's Strategic Communications Director and a former Canadian Brigadi…
On July 1, 2026, Jonathan Teubner walked out of the CEO seat at Filter Labs and Erol Yayboke sat down in it. This conversation was recorded that same day.
Jonathan decided years ago he wouldn't be the lifetime CEO. The founder instincts that keep an early company alive — high risk tolerance, sellin…
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