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Exploring data, code, culture, and everything in between.
Update frequency:
every 17 days
Average audio length:
56 minutes
Guest interviews
English
United States
13 episodes
since Nov. 22, 2025
episodic
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On episode 13 of Data Renegades, CL Kao sits down with Josh Wills to explore how AI agents are reshaping software engineering, data science, and data infrastructure. They discuss verification, benchmarking, pre-training data pipelines, multimodal AI, and why understanding a problem may matter more …
PREVIOUS EPISODES 🔗
On episode 12 of Data Renegades, CL Kao sits down with Maxime Beauchemin to explore what happens when software teams start working alongside armies of AI agents. Max shares the thinking behind Agor, his collaborative platform for orchestrating coding agents, and reflects on how AI is reshaping engi…
On episode 11 of Data Renegades, CL Kao sits down with Michael Stonebraker, legendary database pioneer and creator of Ingres and Postgres. They explore the origins of modern relational databases, why specialized systems outperform one-size-fits-all platforms, and what today’s AI hype gets wrong abo…
On episode 10 of Data Renegades, CL Kao and Dori Wilson sit down with Toby Mao. They explore how real-world data problems at Netflix and Airbnb led to the creation of SQLGlot and SQLMesh, and why data modeling remains the hardest challenge in data engineering. The conversation also dives into how A…
On episode 9 of Data Renegades, CL Kao and Dori Wilson sit down with Wes McKinney, creator of Pandas and co-creator of Apache Arrow. They explore how AI coding agents are reshaping software development, why data infrastructure remains surprisingly resistant to automation, and what semantic layers m…
On episode 8 of Data Renegades, CL Kao and Dori Wilson sit down with Scott Breitenother to explore how AI is reshaping the modern data stack and redefining the role of data teams. They discuss the evolution from spreadsheets to autonomous agents, the realities of data democratization, and why futur…
On episode 7 of Data Renegades, CL Kao and Dori Wilson sit down with Bryan Bischof to explore his journey from pure mathematics to building real-world ML systems. They dig into recommender systems, surprising data bugs, and why truth-seeking should guide data teams. The conversation also covers mod…
On episode 6 of Data Renegades, CL Kao and Dori Wilson speak with Roger Magoulas about the real bottlenecks holding data organizations back. From the origins of “big data” to today’s explosion of tools and pipelines, the conversation focuses on why understanding, semantics, and communication matter…
On episode 5 of Data Renegades, CL Kao and Dori Wilson sit down with Benn Stancil to explore how data tools evolve, and sometimes lose their identity. Benn shares lessons from building Mode, the risks of drifting from an opinionated product vision, and why most companies struggle to turn data into …
In episode 4 of Data Renegades, CL Kao and Dori Wilson sit down with Micah Wylde. They trace his journey from building fraud detection at Sift Science to architecting massive real-time systems at Lyft and ultimately founding Arroyo. In this conversation, Micah breaks down the real complexity of str…
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