Between Two Realms

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Is our world too small for the supernatural worldview the Bible gives? Pastor Andre asks whether one of the problems facing Christians is that our world has simply become too small: just not big enough to handle everything that the Bible talks about. We confess an invisible world, God, angels, demo…

What does the persecuted church count as supernatural? Pastor Andre is joined by the show's first guest, his friend Dan, who has spent the last seven years working with the persecuted church, to test a common belief: that if God is still acting supernaturally in the world, he is doing it on the fro…

Heavenly minded, or no earthly good? Pastor Andre takes the old jibe, so heavenly-minded that they're no earthly good, and turns it round. He has never met a Christian like that, and the Bible seems to direct our thinking in exactly the opposite direction: if you want to be some good in this world,…

The atonement reaches both realms. Because our world's corruption is both visible and invisible, Andre argues, the salvation we need concerns both, and Christ has come not only to deal with material things but also with the immaterial: not only with matter, but also with spirit. In his view, Christ…

If Satan falls, where is he now? The Old Testament's most common word for the afterlife is Sheol, and Sheol is not simply hell. Everybody in the Old Testament goes there, righteous and wicked alike, and not everyone who goes down experiences the same thing. It is the realm the serpent was cast down…

Are demons simply fallen angels? Almost everyone assumes so. In this episode of Between Two Realms, Pastor Andre takes the words we use loosely in ordinary Christian conversation, angel, demon, Elohim, and tightens them, and finds the Bible telling a stranger story than the one most of us inherited…

Most of us tell the story of the fall with only one character in it. Adam eats, the world breaks, and everything that follows is about putting the visible world right. But Ephesians 1:10 says Christ's redemption was always meant to gather the whole cosmos, visible and invisible, under his headship.…

Who is God speaking to in Genesis 1 when he says "let us make man in our image"? In this episode of Between Two Realms, Pastor Andre walks through the divine council: the picture, running right through scripture, of God meeting with his heavenly host, and what it means that he rules throu…

Is Genesis 1 a mere heading, or the making of a cosmic temple? In this episode of Between Two Realms, Pastor Andre reads "the heavens and the earth" as two registers of one cosmos: the material realm and an invisible realm that is equally real, with everything visible created to point bey…