ABOUT THIS PODCAST 🔗
Cathy and Jake are experts on how AI can go wrong for individuals or society, because that's what they do for a living. In this podcast they'll explore all things AI-related, while drinking wine and hanging out with their friends. The intended audience is everyone, but with a special shout-out to the young, because they have been and continue to be absolutely screwed by AI.
Update frequency:
weekly
Average audio length:
35 minutes
English
United States
47 episodes
since Dec. 22, 2025
episodic
LATEST EPISODE 🔗
AI trifecta: hacks, financing, and lobbying
PREVIOUS EPISODES 🔗
How Schools Procure AI Tools (with J.B. Branch)
https://fas.org/publication/student-safety-ai-procurement-guardrails/
https://www.yalejreg.com/nc/who-investigates-ais-cyber-attacks/
Government AI Procurement is a Problem (with Jae Kim and Aniket Kesari)
AI Purity Culture in NYC (with Kiri Soares and David Adams)
AI and the End of the World (or the End of the Internet)
https://metr.org/blog/2026-08-26-openai-hugging-face-incident-investigation/#core-takeaways-about-this-incident
Big Tech in Public Schools (with Natasha Singer)
https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393881943
Should AI Sell My House? (with Jeff Childers)"
From Mathematics to AI Safety (with Jacob Tsimerman)
Liberal Democracy in the AI Era (with Daron Acemoglu)
https://shapingwork.mit.edu/what-happened-to-liberal-democracy/
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