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Recently, on Reddit, people shared stories of supernatural interventions preventing
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them from going to jail, getting hurt, or doing something
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illicit in the first place. PERSTA, all encounters with ghosts
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might come in the form of loud noises, mysterious apparitions,
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ethereal warnings, or just a powerful sense of intuition. Are
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these reports all true stories of other worldly assistants? Will
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leave that for you to judge. I'm Darren Marler and
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this is Weird Darkness. Welcome Weirdos. I'm Darren Marler and
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this is Weird Darkness. Here you'll find stories of the paranormal, supernatural, legends, lore,
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the strange and bizarre, crime, conspiracy, mysterious, macabre, unsolved and
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unexplained coming up. In this episode, Weirdo family member Attredia
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tells of a horrifying series of nights when she and
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her sister encountered a demon under one of their beds
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in York County, Pennsylvania. A suspected witch is murdered, and
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thus began the dark story of the Heck's House. Was
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there a conspiracy to murder Hollywood actress Marilyn Monroe? But
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first creepy paranormal encounters sometimes cause people to stop short
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of committing an action they might regret. We begin there now,
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bulger doors, lock your windows, turn off your lights, and
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come with me into the weird darkness. Over a couple
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of weeks one summer, me and some France all middle
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school grade seven through eight, stuck into a nearby school
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at night and just messed around nothing, damaging eight candy
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out of desks, eight ice cream out of the teacher's lounge,
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wrote notes to teachers and hid them in desks. The
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first night we went in, I was going to go
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into the library, had the door open, but a friend said, no, don't.
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He claimed it wasn't him who said it, though, so
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we didn't go in. After that night, the library doors
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were locked, so we couldn't go in even though we
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wanted to. Then one night, about nine days later, our
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entrance the rooftop hatch was locked and we couldn't get
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in anymore. The very next night, some guys got busted
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after climbing in through library windows. It seems they had
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motion detectors inside the library pointing away from the door
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that we would have entered into the main area, connected
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to a silent alarm. We would have been busted if
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not for whoever said those words. My friends and I
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used to climb the rooftops of buildings a lot in
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our early to mid teens. One of our favorite spots
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was the library by my house. It had a ladder
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on the backside with a gate blocking off the rungs,
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but you could grab the top of the gate and
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pull yourself up if you jumped high enough. We're all
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pretty tall, so this isn't much of a challenge for
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any of us. We got to the top and we're
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about to light our joint when we heard someone say,
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you boys better get down right now. Well. We all
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jumped and turned around, but couldn't see anybody. I hesitantly
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looked around the AC units and electrical boxes, but couldn't
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find anyone. I walked to the edge of the roof
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and looked down to the sidewalk below, but couldn't see
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anyone there either. My friends and I scanned that entire
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rooftop but couldn't find a single It was a rooftop,
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so it's not like they could have had that many
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places to hide in the first place. It startled us enough, though,
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that we decided to leave and get high somewhere else.
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We still have no idea who or what told us
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to get off the roof. Me and my crime partner
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did a lot of stuff burglaries, robberies, thefts, etc. For
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like five years. We're both Orthodox Christians, so once in
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a while we would go to church. Anyway, We're walking
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up the stairs and I see people entering the church.
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The second we try to open the door, it's locked.
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Tourists around us were taking pictures and we were the
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only ones trying to get in. We walk away twenty
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meters or so and see people walking in there. Guess
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God didn't want any thieves in there that day. This
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is something I'll never forget. So I used to work
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as a security guard at a large office building. I
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often stole things like computers, desks, chairs, etc. From the offices.
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I was very careful and never took anything during my shift.
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There were only cameras in the lobby and on the
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outside of the building, not in any tenant spaces. One
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day I found a wallet in a desk and it
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had a few hundred dollars. I took the money and
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left the wallet. I wasn't on that night. No one
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saw me enter or leave the building, and I wasn't
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on any camera. A few weeks later, a lady I'd
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never seen before came up to the security desk and
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told me that she saw me take the money and
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even knew the exact amount. She said that she wanted
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me to know that she knew. Then she left and
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I never saw her again. There is just no possible
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way she could have seen me. This one night, I
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was boosting some silverware from an old lady's house. She
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was home, but old people are pretty deaf and dang slow,
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so I really didn't care. I hear this strange sound
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coming from the room where she's watching TV. Volumes way loud, grandma,
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So I go look, and she's like having a seizure
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or something. I might be a thief, but I'm not
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a jerk. So I call nine one one. They answer crap.
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I don't know what to say. Now, Hi, I was
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just robbing this old lady's house and she's having a seizure.
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So I freeze and I say nothing. I wait with her,
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but she stops seizing, and then I hear sirens, so
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I hide in her tiny front hall closet with the
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folded doors and shutters before the EMT has arrived. She
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stops seizing, so by the time they get to her door,
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she seems fine, except confused why they're at her house.
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They make nice apologize and leave. As soon as they're gone,
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she starts seizing again. Dang it, So I call nine
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one one again just in case. Really don't want a
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dead lady on my conscience. Same thing, sirens, She stops seizing,
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answers the door. It's like a comedy at this point,
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with me hiding in the closet the bad guy with
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a heart of gold. But I'm not about to pop
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out and say but she was having a seizure. So
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they leave. Just as they drive away with her waving
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an old lady goodbye, she falls down and starts seizing again.
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Now it's just sad slash funny. Got to call nine
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to one one again for Grandma. This time, I'm thinking
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about leaving a note or something because I want to
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get out of there, so I call wait for the sirens.
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Then she stops breathing. I'm thinking, if I don't get
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out of here, murder charge. Now I hide as the
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EMTs come through the door, put an oxygen mask on
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her and take her away. By this point, my adrenaline
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is through the roof and screw it. I feel like
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I've earned the right to take as much crap as
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I can and walk out the door with it. Since
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the house is now empty, I could take my time
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going through her stuff, silverware, jewelry, cash, in the shoe box,
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you name it, if I could find it. It's mine
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a fee for being a good Samaritan. And wouldn't you
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know it, the EMT comes back. Who knows why I
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hie it again? He walks into the living room, turns
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the TV off, and grabs a bag off her chair.
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This is the part that really messes me up. As
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he turns to go, an old man just appears out
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of nowhere, pats him on the back and whispers something
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to him. But the EMG doesn't react at all, doesn't
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turn around, doesn't pause, just heads back out the door
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like the old man wasn't even there. Then the old
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guy glides to the front window and stands there waving goodbye.
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Then he disappeared. I'm standing in the closet, frozen, wondering
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what just happened, And when I feel it, somebody's breathing
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down my neck. Get out of mind house. I started running, praying,
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crying right out the door. I didn't care who saw.
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I ran like a little girl. To this day, whenever
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somebody says scared straight, I try not to remember the
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sound of that old man's voice, but I always do.
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I was seventeen. I had decided on the way home
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from school, I was going to slam my car into
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a light pole, hopefully killing myself. As I rapped my car,
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I hear a loud shotgun sound. My back right tire
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blew out. My dad came to help me change it
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shortly thereafter, without me calling anybody. I thought that oddly coincidental.
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When I was fourteen, I'm thirty three now, I used
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to boost cars for this car theft ring in California.
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I did it for several months and never got caught.
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It was more of a thrill and lack of from
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living in a bad area and lack of supervision and authority.
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In my life, I'd never been arrested or got caught.
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I was always a good kid, but I rebelled after
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my parents split up. Anyway, there was one car that
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I needed to pick up and get delivered that day.
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The boss man was extremely insistent that the order needed
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to be filled within a few hours. It was another
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job like any other, but when I was about a
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mile away from my order, I got a very uneasy
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and disturbing feeling. Nothing was out of the ordinary or
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different from the dozens of other jobs I'd done, but
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I couldn't shake the feeling. As I got closer to
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my destination, it was as if it just got noisier
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and more distracting in my head. Finally, that unsettling feeling
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overcame me and I bailed out. I saw the car
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and acted like I just wasn't paying attention. I didn't
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do the job. I kept going and knew I was
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in deep with the guy, but I decided to lay
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low because not filling an order was seriously bad news.
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That guy was not someone you disappoint or you would
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feel it. He was wrathful and on drugs, so I
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knew I had to hide for a while. Two days
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of him blowing up my pager, Yeah, that's how long
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ago it was. I had a pager. Then he calls
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and pages and it just suddenly stopped. Come to find out,
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word on the street was that the cops pulled a
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big sting operation and that car I was supposed to
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steal was being monitored. My old boss sent some other
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kid to get the car. When they followed the kid
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back to the scrapyard and did a big bust, that
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guy got arrested, That kid got arrested, A whole boatload
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of people got arrested. But no one ever came for me.
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To this day, I know God was looking out for
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me at that moment at that time, and I listened.
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Since that incident, I never pulled anything like that ever again.
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I straightened up, got back into school, and graduated with honors.
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It was all because of that weird, supernatural moment. Back
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in high school, a group of friends and I would
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break into recently built houses in our subdivision and use
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it for small parties and smoking before school. Anyway, one
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morning I was inside smoking a bowl before my bus
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arrived and heard someone that sounded like an older lady
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in one of my front rooms say you better get
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out of here. I was alone in the house and
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it was maybe seven thirty am. Being the little rebel
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I was, and legitimately confused as to who would be
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in the house so early, I went and checked the rooms.
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Of course, there wasn't anyone inside, and I never went
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back to that particular house. I've lived in that same
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subdivision for years and multiple families have moved in just
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to move out months or even weeks later. I was
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helping move coke allegedly to Queen's. I was about to
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get on the subway on Fourteenth Street when I bumped
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into an ex who is into tarot and spirits. Long story.
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After missing a couple trains, we parted ways. When I
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arrived at the building in Queens, the cops raided the
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room five minutes before I got there. I bought a
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pack of Tarot carts just out of respect criminal. Here
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partner and I were scouting out a house to rob
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elderly guy. Nobody had seen him in a few days,
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mail overflowing in the mailbox, missed a doctor's appointment, car
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hadn't moved, etc. We both know we're about to find
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a body or an empty house which we could easily rob.
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We arrive on the scene, look through the window, and
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sure enough we can see his foot on the floor
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in the living room. My partner is a seasoned robber
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and pulls and makes me go. First, door's unlocked and
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as soon as we open it, we smell a mostly
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fresh dead body. Almost relieved, we both enter and he
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tells me to check vitals on the dead dude. He's
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obviously dead with lividity, dried feces on him and dried
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saliva around his mouth. So I go to stand over
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him and see if I can get a pulse, at
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which point he takes a deep breath, rolls over and
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asks why we're in his house. At this point we
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both start screaming and run out of the house. I
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only managed to grab one silver spoon. I think he
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died a week later in the hospital. I still get
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jokes about raising the dead. I used to grow a
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little weed and party on a plot of farm land
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in Wisconsin. We'd have friends up every Memorial Day. We'd
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camp off the side of an off road loop where
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we created a camping spot, canoeing, partying, binge drinking. One night,
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I took my eighty nine Chevy Blazer with a car
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load of people to the river for a swim. On
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the way back, I was driving like a bat out
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of hell, sending people bouncing all over on purpose and
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continue driving like that around the loop past the camp spot.
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When somebody from the back grabbed me and pulled me
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back in my driver's seat and yelled stop. Well, I
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slammed on the brakes and everyone went flying forward through
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it reverse, made a three point turn to pull in
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and park at the camp spot. The passengers had had
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enough and didn't want to pass up the tents and
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fresh beer. All poured out of the car laughing. A
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few minutes go by and Mike is yelling at something
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on the trail. I go over there, and in the dirt,
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passed out cold with mud on his face from my
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front tire was this drunken friend of ours. I immediately
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started freaking out, screaming how if Mike didn't see him
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and tell me to stop, he'd be dead. If I
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didn't pull in reverse after stopping, he would be dead.
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I was kicking him and ticked until Mike stopped me
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to say that he didn't see anything. Nobody saw anything,
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Nobody grabbed me, but sure as hell, I swear on
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my children, something grabbed me and yelled me to stop
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and saved his life that night. I don't consider myself
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a criminal. In fact, I pride myself in being a
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very ethical person. But one time I committed a minor
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crime that led me to think there might be some
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supernatural involvement here. I went to hobby lobby, a clearly
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Christian establishment, bought some balsa wood, needed four or five pieces,
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saw a six pack, and picked it up. When I
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went to the register, I realized that the cashier was
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charging me for only one piece of wood. I guess
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it was not a six pack. It was probably the
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bulk packaging that came from the manufacturer and the employees
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just never put them up. When I realized I was
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getting charged for one piece only out of the stack
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of six, I decided to let its slide. I didn't
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point it out. I walked out with six pieces for
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the price of one, so really I stole five pieces.
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Fast forward a few days. I'm using a table saw
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to cut grooves in the wood to make some small
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gift boxes. I'm doing a pretty decent job until I
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stopped to chat with a friend and have a couple
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of glasses of wine. I don't know what possessed me,
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other than boredom, to return to the table saw. The
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first cut took some skin off the tips of three
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of my fingers, so I go to the er for
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some emergency stitching, get my tetanus shot, etc. Have surgery
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to reconstruct my fingertips using cadaver skin. Shout out to
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whoever's fingerprints I now have thanks man. Shortly after surgical wounds,
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become infected with MRSA, more hospitalization and antibiotics. At this point,
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starting to feel God's wrath and mind you, I'm not
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a Christian. I was only very superficially Catholic long enough
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to get my first communion and then drop the whole
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idea at bat. But thinking about the chain of events
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that unfolded from five stolen pieces of balsawood, I could
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not help but believe that this was a sign from
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a higher power. So I went back to hobby lobby
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with one of the pieces of balsawood. I asked to
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speak to a manager and I explained the situation to
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him and told him that I want to pay for
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those other five pieces of balsa wood because I really
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needed to be done with it. I said it was
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a real load off my shoulders and I felt better
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after telling him that. He said it made him feel
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like a priest receiving confession. Now that was my first confession.
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It was not after a series of Catechism classes nor
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at the indicated age. But it did happen as a
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result of learning a lesson, so I guess that counts,
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even if I am no longer Catholic. Once I stole
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this kid's doll when I got home, I was bored
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and thought it'd be kind of funny to chant a
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demonic incantation over it. Suddenly, my roommate dropped dead, and
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the doll actually stood up and ran out the door.
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I didn't mention anything about the doll to the paramedics
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because I didn't think they'd believe me. My roommate's death
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was ruled natural causes, but I still can't help feeling
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responsible that maybe I actually did tap into some sort
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of spiritual curse. Back in high school, me and my
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friends liked to go places we shouldn't and smoke pot.
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So on April twentieth, for twenty one year, we all
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go to our old elementary school at like ten thirty
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at night to blaze it. Since it was so late,
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we were kind of trespassing. On the way there, my
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friend whose mom worked at the school, told us about
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how one of the old janitors told his mom that
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a long time ago, a girl died in a l
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slide on the hill behind the school. So we're walking
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around the buildings when suddenly we hear a very loud, clear,
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little girl scream coming from the direction of the playground,
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which would make sense if it wasn't ten thirty on
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a school night. It was one of those moments out
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of a movie. We were all just looking at each other,
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mouths agape. We booked it out of there as fast
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as possible. It broke into this one abandoned house once.
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It sat on the edge of the block and was
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behind a tall white wall, so you only saw what
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the yard looked like once she climbed over old shopping carts, toys,
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old doghouse, kind of dreary. Doors of the house had
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boards on it, so had to pry those off with
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a crowbar. Once on the inside, everything was black. Looked
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like the entire inside had been coated in soot, from
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the ceiling to the bathtub to the windows, just all black.
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Thought that was weird anyway. I spent a whole week
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there in the darkest part of winter, and I'm sure
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that there was more than one reason I never got
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a good night's sleep. I remember a creepy story with
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a similar theme like this. A guy was talking about
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how he'd squat in a house that had been put
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on the market. He had a key to get in
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because he knew the owners, and he'd sleep and shower
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there after work. He talked about how one night, while
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he slept, the phone started ringing. He couldn't figure out
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where it was coming from, and then he saw police
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cars pull up in the driveway. He hid while they
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scanned the windows and doors, and then booked it after
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they left. He later came back and said that the
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locks had been changed. He looked at the whole thing
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like the house was warning him that he was about
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to be kicked out. I tried to kill someone. I
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had it out of body experience while doing it. I'm
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not exactly a faithful person, but I think something actually
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did stop me from killing him. I'm a pretty talented pickpocket.
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Slight kleptomania. Lifted a wallet from a man as I
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came up behind him on the street, almost zero contact.
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No one should have noticed a thing, but the man
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spoke out very calmly as I passed him, could I
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have that back? Please? Turned around to see he was
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wearing sunglasses. He lifted them up and revealed he was blind.
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I was so completely dumb struck and baffled that I
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apologized and gave him back to wallet. Wasn't too worried
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about him picking me out of a lineup anyway, and
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didn't want to be that guy that steals from the handicapped.
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I guess his sense of touch was sharpened by the
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loss of sight or something like that. For a brief second,
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I was sure this man was a warlock. Something similar
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happened to a friend of mine. He worked at an
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expensive liquor store, and I decided to steal some bottles
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of wine one night. Just a minute or so after
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opening the back door and walking into the darkness, he
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claims to have heard a voice say what are you doing?
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He immediately felt frightened and left without the wine. Wow.
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I have never heard another person's story like this. A
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buddy of mine was driving to college and got pulled
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over mass traffic stop after just finishing a bowl. I know,
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irresponsible and dangerous. We did dumb stuff back then, and
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we all regret it. He pulled up behind another car
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and stopped. Then the cop who was talking to the
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other car walked past my buddy's truck. The car in
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front starts to pull off. Then my buddy says, he
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just hears a voice in his head say go, and
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he pulled away just like that. He spent the remainder
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of his drive back to school just waiting for the
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cops to show up on his butt, but they never did.
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I'm pretty sure that's when he decided to quit smoking pot.
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I always believed his story. He's one of my oldest
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friends and sitting just about at the top of my
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list when it comes to godparents for my future kids.
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I trust him with anything. Still hard to believe, though.
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One day I went to rob a house of an
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old lady. Got to the door, thought it was my
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lucky day because it was unlocked, so I quietly made
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my way to the living room and almost crapped my pants.
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The old lady was sitting in silence, staring at some
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unknown presence in the garden, not moving at all. I
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didn't want to be ghost food, so I left, and
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now I only rob young ladies changed my life. Man.
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I grew up in a small town and me and
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some friends made it our goal one summer to break
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into every building possible at night. We didn't want to
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steal anything or actually break anything to get in. It
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was more of a test of our ability to pick
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law or create ways during the day that would make
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it easy to get in at night. We got into
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the elementary school one night. There was rumors of a
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bomb shelter in the basement, so we just had to
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check it out. It was true. The basement janitor closet
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had a big metal door, and inside there was some
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bomb shelter warnings and instructional stuff along with regular janitor equipment.
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Nothing interesting or crazy happened while we were in the school,
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and we left after a short period of time. We
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hung out on the playground equipment afterwards. Around one am,
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while we were just hanging out there a tapping sound
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from the third floor window of the school started. We
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all stopped talking and looked up. I couldn't see anything
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in the window, and then bam, bam, bam, three incredibly
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loud slams against the window. The window was shaking, but
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still nothing to be seen. We ran to the closest
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friend's house because it scared the crap out of all
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of us. We forced an entry into an abandoned and
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dismantled psychiatric asylum. We wandered the halls and had a
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look in all the various rooms, some nice and open
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with windows and bathrooms, some small and cell like the
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w rec room had iron bars over the window frames.
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And in the center of the whole building was a
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quiet little courtyard with a few drill holes where benches
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used to be. There wasn't the sense of being watched
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or a presence, but somehow I could feel the history
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of fear and confusion of the place. The urge to
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leave was strong, and I was caught in a weird
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place of moving fast but remaining consciously calm. I had
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to keep reminding myself that everything was fine and that
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I could go outside at any time. Up next, Weird
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family member, A Tretia tells of a glorifying series of
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nights when she and her sister encountered a demon under
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one of their beds in York County, Pennsylvania. A suspected
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witch is murdered, and thus began the dark story of
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the Heck' House. These stories and more when Weird Darkness returns.
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If you're listening to this right now, you're already a
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part of the Weirdo family. But there is a deeper,
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darker corner of this family, and it's called the Official Weirdos.
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For just five bucks a month, official Weirdos get every
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episode of Weird Darkness completely commercial free. They get bonus
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episodes every single week that nobody else hears. They get
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chapters of the audiobooks I'm narrating, and they hear those
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chapters before the authors and publishers I'm narrating them for
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really before the people who hired me. Every weeknight, official
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Weirdos and I gather for a live premier chat, listen
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to the new episode, drop together, and talk about whatever's
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on our minds while it plays. It's the closest thing
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to sitting in the studio with me. Official Weirdos also
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get direct access to me through personal messaging, plus inside
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news about the show and what I'm working on that
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nobody else hears about all of that for just five
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bucks a month. And if you want to go deeper,
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there are higher tiers Loyal Weirdos and avowed Weirdos, where
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free Weird Darkness merchandise starts showing up at your door
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every three months. Stickers, mugs, posters, t shirts, tote bags, hoodies.
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You'll see everything when you visit the page. If any
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of that sounds like you're kind of weird, add to
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Weirddarkness dot com slash official and join the family. That's
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Weirddarkness dot com slash official. The other official weirdos are
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anxious to meet you. I'd insert an evil laugh here,
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but I think that'd probably be a bit over the top.
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When I was younger, my sister and and I shared
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a bed and a room. We were generally happy and healthy,
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with vivid imaginations, despite what happened to us for one
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solid week in our past. I was about seven at
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the time, my sister was nearly ten, and we were
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just snuggling down to sleep in our new room in
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the house our parents had just spent the last two
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days moving us into. We were happy and expecting to
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make new friends in the quiet community of sun Ray's Hexes.
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As we closed our eyes and drifted off to sleep,
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something very unnerving happened. The bed began to shake, knocking
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into the wall of the shared wall between our room
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and our parents' room. It was violent and loud, and
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knocked my sister and I into each other's arms. Just
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as the bed finally stopped shaking. Our mother opened the
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door and turned on the lights. Just what are you
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two up to, she said, in a very exasperated manner.
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Apparently our brother had just gotten to sleep, and the
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shaking bed had woken him and our mother from their
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sleep too. My sister and I both claimed innocence, after all,
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we had not moved to the bed. It was a
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huge bed, and we barely weighed a hundred pounds together.
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This continued over the next couple of days, always ending
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with our mother coming in to chide us for being
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so loud and knocking on the wall. On the fourth day,
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my sister and I determined not to go to sleep
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until we saw what was making the bed move. We
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sat huddled together in the darkness, my sister hoarding the
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flashlight she had liberated from Dad's toolbox, waiting for the
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bed to move. Sometime after Mom went to sleep, we
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were still watching, even if our eyes were growing heavy
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with the need to sleep. I was sure that it
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would not happen that night, mostly because we were waiting
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for it to happen, but my sister was absolutely sure
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it would. Just as I was about to give up
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and turn over for sleep, we heard a knock that
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came from above our heads. My sister clicked on the flashlight,
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aiming it in the direction of the sound upon the headboard,
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and there we saw the most frightening thing our little
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brains could have seen at that time, ahnd rising up
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from between the bed and the wall. From beneath the bed,
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we both let out squeals afright, jumping up and hugging
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each other as the sound of an evil laugh filled
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the room. The sound was cut off only by the
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banging of the bedroom door opening and Mom turning on
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our bedroom light. We both jumped up from our bed
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and ran into our arms, blabbering like babies, scared to death.
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Mom took us into the living room, and although she
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was very irritated by being awakened by two of her
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children screaming bloody murder in the middle of the night,
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she let us sleep in bed with her until Dad
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came home and carried us back into our bed. The
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next night, our parents decided that we were just scaring
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ourselves silly with telling ghost stories. We were put back
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in our room and were both scared to death as
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the bed began and shaking once more, this time However,
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my sister did something that's very much not a part
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of her character. She leaned over the side of the
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bed and clicked on the flashlight as the bed began
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to shake. When she did, I saw the thing that
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leapt up from under the bed and ran out of
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the room as our mother turned on the light with
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a very irritated and exasperated look on her face. It's
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something I will never forget, nor will my sister, this
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thing that was beneath our bed. Looking at each other,
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we both silently agreed not to mention what we had
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just seen. Instead, we said it was the Boogeyman. The truth, however,
537
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was much different. What was beneath that bed was, in
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my sister's definition, demonic. It was definitely in the guise
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of an old man with creepy, glowing eyes and long,
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talon like fingers. He didn't have hair, but strings of long,
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nearly transparent locks hung here and there about his shoulders,
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nearly corpse like than bald. His teeth were sharp and broken,
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and his ears stuck out at odd angles from his head.
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Besides that, he was dressed in rags, but his feet
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were bare. Since that night, my sister has refused to
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sleep without a light on in the room. She also
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has refused to speak about it, with the idea that
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just talking about the demonic beings will bring them into
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your life. I respect that, even if I believe differently.
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I can't help but wonder, though, if anyone else has
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been visited by this boogeyman. In York County, Pennsylvania, there
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was a place called Spring Valley County Park. Before it
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was given that benign designation, however, it was known by
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the ominous name of hex Hollow. In nineteen twenty eight,
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a local man and suspected witch named Nelson Raymier was
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murdered in his home in an effort by another local
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man to remove a curse. Though the so called He's
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house was set on fire in the aftermath of the murder,
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it survived the blaze and still stands today. In two
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thousand seven, Raymeyer's descendants opened it to the public as
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a museum featuring displays about his life and death. The
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killer man, named John Blimere, believed that Nelson Raymyer was
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a witch who had placed a curse on him. This
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wasn't unusual at the time. Many people in central Pennsylvania
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in the nineteen twenties, practiced a kind of folk magic
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called powwow, with mixed elements of Christianity and European folk remedies.
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In fact, Blimeir himself was a powow doctor. After a
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string of illnesses and bad luck, Blmeir became convinced that
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he was laboring under a curse. Unable to figure out
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the source of the curse, he turned to another local witch,
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Nellie Nole, known as the Marietta River Witch. She confirmed
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his fears and told him that the author of his
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misfortune was none other than Nelson Raymier, who had once
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cured Blimeir of a childhood illness using his powow magic.
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According to some accounts, it was Nellie Knowle who told
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Blimere that in order to break the curse, he needed
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a lock of Raymyer's hair, which he had to bury
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six feet in the ground. Then he had to burn
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ray Meyer's copy of The Long Lost Friend, an eighteen
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twenty book of folk magic written by John George Hoeman
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and commonly employed by powwow practitioners. On November twenty sixth,
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nineteen twenty eight, Blmeir and a friend visited Raymier's house
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in search of his copy of The Long Lost Friend.
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The story goes that they spent a peaceful night there,
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with Blimere holding back on his attack after realizing that
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it would take more than two men to subdue the witch.
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The next night, Blimeir and his friend returned with another accomplice,
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and the three of them assaulted Raymier. The struggle is
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said to have lasted only about a minute, and at
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the end of it, Raymyer was dead. Perhaps because they
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were unable to find Raymyer's copy of The Long Lost Friend,
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the three men attempted to burn down the entire house
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of the witch. The fact that the Heck's house survived
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the blaze was cited as fur their evidence of Raymyer's
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supernatural powers. Blmere would later attest that the hes placed
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upon him was broken the moment that Raymyer died. All
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three men were captured, and the murder cast national attention
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upon the area, as papers all over the country ran
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stories about the York hex slayers. Blimere and his first accomplice,
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John Curry, both received life sentences for their roles and
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the murder, while the other accomplice, Wilbert Hess was given
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a sentence of ten to twenty years. All three were
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eventually released without having served out their full sentences. The
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region's strange medical tradition, which some still practice even today,
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as well as the murder, partly inspired a series of
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books by horror author Brian Keene, himself a native of
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central Pennsylvania. In twenty fifteen, a filmmaker named Shane Free
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released a feature length documentary about the murder called hex Hollow,
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Witchcraft and Murder in Pennsylvania, which features interviews with surviving
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relatives of those involved, as well as with folklorists and
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experts in the pow wow tradition. When weird Darkness returns?
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Was there a conspiracy to murder Hollywood actress Marilyn Monroe?
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That story is up next. What happens when consciousness separates
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from the body. For centuries, people have described the same
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impossible moment, suddenly floating above themselves, watching events unfold from
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somewhere beyond the physical world. I left my body. Chilling
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True Out of Body Experiences, written by Linda Grimm and
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Tom Lyons, collects the first hand accounts of ordinary people
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who lived it. Some left their bodies during sleep, others
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in moments of trauma or meditation, or circumstances no one
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could explain. A few weren't sure they'd ever get back in.
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Some of these experiences were peaceful, others were deeply disturbing,
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but every witness remembers the same realization they were no
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longer inside their body. Narrated by Weird Darkness host Darren Marler,
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this collection will leave you questioning what happens when the
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mind slips free of the physical world. I left my
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body chilling true out of body experiences. Find it on
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the audiobooks page at Weirddarkness dot com, or look for
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it on Amazon and Audible. In the early hours of Sunday,
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August fifth, nineteen sixty two, psychiatrist Ralph Greenson broke into
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a bedroom of a house in the Brentwood area of
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Los Angeles. On the bed was the body of a
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lifeless young woman, nude, clutching a telephone. It was me
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Lyn Monroe. Greenson immediately phoned for Monroe's internist, doctor Hyman Engelberg,
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who upon his arrival, pronounced her dead. It was three
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point fifty a m. News of the death reverberated around
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the world. The actress was already at the age of
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thirty six, a Hollywood legend and the most famous and
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photographed woman in the world. The official verdict was suicide.
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An array of empty pill bottles were found on the
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bedside table. The tabloids reported the suicide story in lurid
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front page headlines. So huge was her star Monroe's apparent
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suicide even inspired a wave of copycats around the United States.
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The coroner's report offered an insight into the troubled actress's mind.
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Miss Monroe has suffered from psychiatric disturbance for a long time.
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On more than one occasion, when disappointed or depressed, she
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has made a suicide attempt. On these asians, she has
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been rescued. It is our opinion the same pattern was repeated,
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except for the rescue, it concluded. Some, however, were less
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sure the tragic star's death was suicide. Numerous suspicious inconsistencies
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and contradictory witness testimony have fueled persistent rumors that the
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star was actually murdered. The first policeman to arrive, Sergeant
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Jack Clemens, wasn't called until four twenty five am, more
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than thirty minutes after Monroe was pronounced dead. This unexplained
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delay in calling the police was just the first troubling
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detail of the crime scene. Clemens immediately felt something was wrong.
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He thought it obvious the body had been moved, and
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whilst there were empty pill bottles on the bedside table,
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there was no water or glass with which to take them. Why, too,
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was there no vomit. Monroe had taken a massive overdose
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of nembui, a barbituate that should have caused vomiting. Most
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suspicious of all, Clemens noticed Monroe's housekeeper, Eunice Murray, was
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washing sheets in another part of the house. Had there
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been a cleanup of the crime scene, and if so, why?
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The autopsy report only added to the confusion. Monroe had
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taken a massive overdose of drugs, but no trace of
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the pills were found in her stomach. By all accounts,
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the actress was in turmoil at the time of her death.
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Addicted to drink and drugs. She was unraveling, trying to
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cope with her tangled life, her failed marriages, the Kennedys,
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the mafia, her fading Hollywood career. Perhaps it had all
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gotten too much for the tragic star. She had a
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history of suicide, attempts. Was this just one where she
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had finally succeeded, or, as some suggest, was the overdose
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accidental and covered up to disguise the grossness negligence of
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her doctors. Witnesses would later emerge to attest that Monroe
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had died hours earlier than in the official story, and
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most sensationally of all, that Attorney General Bobby Kennedy and
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his brother in law Peter Lawford were at the house
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that night. Rumour had it that Monroe had been threatening
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to go to the press with details of her scandalous
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romantic liaisons with both Bobby Kennedy and his brother, President
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John F. Kennedy. There were even reports she had kept
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a red diary, which, aside from lurid sexual details of
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her affairs with the Kennedys, contained incriminating references to the
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Kennedy's plots to kill Castro and even their ties to
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the mafia. Was Bobby Kennedy there that night to locate
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the diary and did he take the most extreme measures
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to silence her and stop her from going to the press.
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Was Marilyn Monroe murdered? Although the officials is that Marilyn
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Monroe was pronounced dead by her doctor around three point
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fifty am. Much evidence exists that she was found dead
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long before that time. Eunice Murray was Monroe's housekeeper and
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had been placed in the actress's employ by her psychiatrist,
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Robert Greenson. Murray is the main witness to the time
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of Monroe's death. She initially told police that she knocked
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on Maryland's door around midnight but got no reply. Concerned,
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she alerted Greenson, who arrived at the house shortly followed
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by Monroe's internist, doctor Hyman Engelberg. According to Murray, after
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breaking through the French windows of Maryland's bedroom, Greenson and
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Murray discovered Maryland's dead body laid out on the bed
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after a long unexplained gap, Greenson, Murray, and Engelberg then
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notified the police at four twenty five am. This timeline
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is somewhat consistent with the undertaker, Guy Hackett, who arrived
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at the house around five forty am. From the state
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of rigor Mortis. Hawcket estimated the time of death between
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nine thirty pm and eleven thirty PM, but then it
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got complicated. Murray, Greenson, and Engelberg quickly changed their story. Now.
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Murray says she went to bed at twelve and didn't
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knock on Monroe's door until three am, after noticing the
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light on in her room. In this revised timeline, Greenson
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found Maryland dead at three forty am and Engelberg pronounced
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her dead at three point fifty am. Why the huge
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disparity in stories was it to conceal a clean up
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of the crime scene or worse? Sergeant Jack Clemens, the
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first policeman at the scene, was called out at four
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to twenty five am. He was immediately suspicious that the
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crime scene had been altered. According to Clemens, the body
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looked to be in an unnatural position, as if it
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had been posed. The bedroom was rangely tidy, and most
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mysterious of all, there was no glass of water. Monroe
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had supposedly then swallowed upwards of sixty pills without water.
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The actress had always had trouble swallowing pills and required
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copious amounts of water to do so. And why, Clemens wondered,
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was Eunice Murray running the washer and dryer in the
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middle of the night as her employer lay dead in
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her bedroom. There was clearly a problem with the story
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coming out of the house, and more evidence would everge
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to cast doubt on what the trio was saying. According
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to Natalie Trundy, she was attending a Hollywood Bowl concert
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with her future husband, Arthur Jacobs, who was Monroe's agent
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at the time. Jacobs received a call from Monroe's lawyer,
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Mickey Rudin, and it was shocking. Marilyn Monroe, Jacobs was
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told was dead. The actor Peter Lawford, Monroe's friend and
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the Kennedy's brother in law, was also told by Rudine
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that Monroe was dead before her body had supposedly even
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been discovered. If Monroe's agent and lawyer already knew she
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was dead at ten thirty PM, then this discredits both
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stories coming from the house, indicating a cover up was
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already in action. The new ten thirty pm timeline is
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also most consistent with Guy Hawkeett's estimate of the time
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of death of around nine thirty to eleven thirty pm.
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It was clear then that something was very wrong with
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the official story coming from Monroe's house. Was there a
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cover up? If so, what was its purpose. Eunice Murray's
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accounts of what happened that night have been contradictory and
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evasive over the years. According to author and investigative journalist
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Anthony Summers, Murray finally came clean to him about what
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really happened in an interview in nineteen eighty five. The
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reason for the cover story, Murray told Somers, was because
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Robert Kennedy was at the house that day and an
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ambulance had been called much earlier, when Marylyn was still alive.
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Summers asked her why she had lied. I told whatever
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I thought was good to tell, Murray told him. Attorney
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General Robert Kennedy was officially in San Francisco on the
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day of Monroe's death, but Eunice Murray's shocking revelation to
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Somers was not the only evidence that this was a lie.
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Twentieth century Fox publicist Frank Neil saw Kennedy arrive by
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helicopter at the studio's heliport near Stage fourteen early Saturday afternoon,
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where he was whisked away in a limousine driven by
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his brother in law, actor Peter Lawford. This limousine was
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later stopped by Beverly Hills traffic policeman Lynn Franklin, who
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says he observed Lawford at the wheel and Robert Kennedy
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in the back with a man he later identified as
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Ralph Greenson. Whilst the sightings of Kennedy could perhaps be
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dismissed as hearsay, they were confirmed by LA Police Chief DARYLD.
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Gates and other senior LA Police detectives through their surveillance
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of the airport. The truth is, we knew Robert Kennedy
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was in town on August fourth. Gates later said, we
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always knew when he was in town. Kennedy, it seems,
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was certainly in LA that day and lied about it.
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Could there be another reason, unrelated to Monroe for him
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to be there that he didn't want to disclose. Some
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have speculated that Kennedy may have been meeting with mob
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bosses and this was his reason for lying. However, there
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are reasons to doubt this was the case. Kennedy was
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seen in the presence of actor Peter Lawford, a friend
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of Monroe's, and numerous witnesses place him at her house
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on the day and even night of her death. Whatever
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this reason for being there, it seemed to center on
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the actress. Aside from Eunice Murray's statement to Sumner's in
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nineteen eighty five. There are several other reasons to believe
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Robert Kennedy visiting Mayor Lyne that day. Murray's son in law,
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Norman Jeffries, confirmed Murray's story. Kennedy had arrived that afternoon
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with Peter Lawford and there had been a violent argument
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between him and Monroe. According to Jeffreys, Kennedy came back
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with two men at around ten PM, a fact confirmed
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by neighbors of Marilyn Monroe, who also saw Kennedy enter
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the property with the two men. This is where the
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case against Robert Kennedy takes a very dark turn. Jeffries
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and Murray were ordered out of the house after Kennedy
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and the man left. They re entered the house to
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find Marilyn Comatos in the guest bedroom. What was the
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purpose of Robert Kennedy's visit to Monroe's house and was
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he really responsible for her death? One obvious motive was
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Marilynd's threats to go to the press over her relationship
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with Bobby and his brother, President Kennedy. This could have
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destroyed both men's careers. Even worse was the diary she
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was said to keep in it was not only the
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scandalous details of her sexual adventures with the two men,
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but incriminating accounts of conversations she had had with them
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about the plot to murder Castro. Marylyn had become a
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security risk. Furthermore, her relationship with a Mexican man who
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was a suspected Communist agent had peaked the interest of
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the FBI. One way or the other, the star had
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become a major security risk. Did Bobby Kennedy then take
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matters in his own hands and attempt to persuade Maryland
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to hand over the diary and keep her mouth shut?
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Evidence supports this scenario. According to Norman Jeffreys, Monroe's filing
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cabinet had been broken into on the night of her death.
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Had Kennedy been searching for the diary? Private eye Robert
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Otash claimed to have bugged Monroe's house, probably on behalf
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of the FBI papers that emerge after Otash's death reveal
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sensational details about what he had heard. Recounting Kennedy's visit
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to Monroe on the day of the murder, Otash described
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a violent struggle between the pair. Kennedy was heard to
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shout where is it? Whilst Monroe complained about her treatment
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by him and his brother. Had Kennedy and the man
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he was with deliberately murder Monroe or had an attempt
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to restrain or sedate her gone badly wrong. It's difficult
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to reconcile the image of the inspiring progressive Robert Kennedy
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with a murder go so grubby and desperate, but the
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evidence he was presented at her home that fateful day
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is persuasive. And soon after Marilyn Monroe was dead, the
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coroner's report labeled Marilyn Monroe's death a probable suicide, indicating
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even they were not quite sure what it happened. The
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toxicology report finding suggests she died of a massive overdose
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of barbituates. The amount of puno barbitol in her blood
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was three times the fatal dose. There were also large
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concentrations of the drug in her liver. It's estimated she
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would have had to take somewhere between twenty five and
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fifty of her nembutal pills to reach these levels. On
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top of this, there was also near lethal levels of
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chloral hydrate in her blood, accounting for almost twenty capsules
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of the drug. The enduring medical mystery behind the death
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of Marilyn Monroe is how these drugs got into her body.
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At her autopsy, not a trace of the drugs or
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pill capsules were found in her stomach. It's been argued
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that the yellow nembutal pill rappings could have broken down
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and left no trace in her stomach, but Thomas Nogucci,
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the pathologist, could find no traces of the fine refractive crystals,
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which should have also been present. In a standard textbook
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on drug related deaths, toxicologist Robert H. Cravey studied over
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fifteen hundred cases. In every case of a drug overdose
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through oral entry, I've always found drugs in the stomach,
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Cravey said. The findings for the autopsy only echoed odd
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details from the crime scene. Jack Clemens, the final police
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officer to arrive at Monroe's house, could find no glass
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or water in her bedroom. Howard Monroe swallowed so many
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pills without water. The police report also noted the lack
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of vomit, which would be expected from someone who had
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orally overdosed on barbituates. Also missing was the acrid pair
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like odor characteristics of chlorohydrate overdoses, with no evidence that
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Monroe had injected the drugs. This left a real mystery. Clearly,
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if she had not administered the substances herself, then it
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could not be suicide. John W. Minor, former Deputy District
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Attorney of La County, was present at the autopsy. He
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believes Marilyn may have been killed by an enema or
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more of the nebutahs dissolved in water and administered anally.
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If Minor's right, then whoever administered the enema was Monroe's killer.
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Marilyn Monroe was one of Hollywood's brightest and most vivacious stars.
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Few would suspect that beyond her glamour, she was plagued
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by intense feelings of isolation, inadequacies, and loneliness. She once wrote,
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help help help I feel life coming closer when all
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I want is to die. Playwright Arthur Miller, Monroe's third husband,
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once described her as the saddest person I know. Marilyn
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Monroe was born in nineteen twenty six. She never knew
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her father, a fact which preoccupied her for much of
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her life. Her mother, Gladys, suffered from mental illness and oppression,
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which led to the young Marylyn spending much of her
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early life in foster homes. In some of these foster homes,
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Monroe was sexually abused. She was brave enough to tell
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of the abuse, but she was not believed by those
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she trusted. This double trauma had a profound effect on
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her adult life. She would continually seek father figures. Her
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three marriages were all to older men, and Clark Gable,
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her much older co star in The Misfits, was someone
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she clung onto. Many psychologists think Monroe's promiscuity and constant
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search for father figures were due to her traumatic childhood experiences.
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Her behavior also had classic hallmarks of suicide. Sexual abuse, abandonment, isolation,
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and a family history of mental health issues are all
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warning signals. Indeed, Monroe had attempted suicide on numerous occasions
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when she was younger. She tried to kill herself twice
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when she was a teenager during her marriage to James Dougherty.
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She tried again in nineteen fifty after a failed relationship.
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Another suicide was attempted during her marriage to playwright Arthur Miller.
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Many psychologists today believe Monroe suffered from bipolar disorder, a
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syndrome characterized by extreme shifts in mood. This, along with
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her chronic insomnia and drug use are classic risk factors
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for suicide. Hollywood columnist James Bacon saw Marilyn just days
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before her death. She was drinking champagne and straight vodka
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and occasionally popping a pill. Bacon told the La Times,
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I said, Marylyn, the combination of pills and alcohol will
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kill you, and she said it hasn't killed me yet.
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Then she took another drink and popped another pill. I
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know at night she took barbituates. Even on the night
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of her death, despite recently receiving a prescription from her doctor,
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she was phoning friends from more pills. If we discount
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the suspicious elements of her death, Monroe's psychological problems, along
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with her excessive use of prescription drugs, make the official
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suicide verdict all too plausible. Whilst it's fairly certain that
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Robert Kennedy was in la and in all probability at
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Monroe's house the day she died, the idea he killed
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her is highly problematic. If Kennedy was behind any kind
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of premeditated plot to kill the actress, the last place
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in the world he would be is that her house
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the day of the murder. Logic dictates he would ensure
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there was as much distance figuratively and literally between him
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and Monroe as possible. The fact he was seen by
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numerous people at her house that day seriously discounts the
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possibility that he was involved in any planned operation to
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murder her. A recent investigation for Court TV made a
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convincing case that Monroe's death was a tragic medical accident.
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According to Court TV, her psychiatrist Ralph Greenson gave the
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actress a sedative enema of chloral hydrate to help her
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slay and to try and wean her off the barbituouate nebutah.
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The program argues that Greenson was unaware that her internist
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doctor Hymen Engelberg, was continuing to prescribe her nebutah, and
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the lethal interaction of the drugs caused Monroe's death. Monroe's lawyer,
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Mickey Rudin reportedly heard Greenson say that night, gosh, darn it,
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he gave her a prescription I didn't know about. The
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program suggests the cover up and suspicious behavior of Greenson
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and Eunice Murray were to cover up what would have
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been a damaging case of medical negligence. For the Psychiatrist.
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Thanks for listening. If you like the show, please share
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it with someone you know who loves the paranormal or
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strange stories, true crime, monsters, or unsolved mysteries like you do.
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All stories in Weird Darkness are purported to be true
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unless stated otherwise, and you can find source links or
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links to the authors in the show notes. Weird Darkness
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is a production and trademark of Marler House Productions. And
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now that we're coming out of the dark, I'll leave
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you with a little light Proverbs ten, verse fourteen. Wise
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men store up knowledge, but the mouth of a fool
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invites ruin. And a final thought, Imperfection is beauty, Madness
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is genius, and it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than
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absolutely boring. Marilyn Monroe. I'm Darren Marler. Thanks for joining
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me in the Weird Darkness.
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Recently, on Reddit, people shared stories of supernatural interventions preventing
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them from going to jail, getting hurt, or doing something
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illicit in the first place. PERSTA, all encounters with ghosts
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ethereal warnings, or just a powerful sense of intuition. Are
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these reports all true stories of other worldly assistants? Will
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leave that for you to judge. I'm Darren Marler and
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this is Weird Darkness. Welcome Weirdos. I'm Darren Marler and
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this is Weird Darkness. Here you'll find stories of the paranormal, supernatural, legends, lore,
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the strange and bizarre, crime, conspiracy, mysterious, macabre, unsolved and
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unexplained coming up. In this episode, Weirdo family member Attredia
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tells of a horrifying series of nights when she and
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her sister encountered a demon under one of their beds
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in York County, Pennsylvania. A suspected witch is murdered, and
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thus began the dark story of the Heck's House. Was
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there a conspiracy to murder Hollywood actress Marilyn Monroe? But
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first creepy paranormal encounters sometimes cause people to stop short
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of committing an action they might regret. We begin there now,
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bulger doors, lock your windows, turn off your lights, and
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come with me into the weird darkness. Over a couple
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of weeks one summer, me and some France all middle
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school grade seven through eight, stuck into a nearby school
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at night and just messed around nothing, damaging eight candy
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out of desks, eight ice cream out of the teacher's lounge,
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wrote notes to teachers and hid them in desks. The
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first night we went in, I was going to go
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into the library, had the door open, but a friend said, no, don't.
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He claimed it wasn't him who said it, though, so
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we didn't go in. After that night, the library doors
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were locked, so we couldn't go in even though we
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wanted to. Then one night, about nine days later, our
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entrance the rooftop hatch was locked and we couldn't get
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in anymore. The very next night, some guys got busted
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after climbing in through library windows. It seems they had
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motion detectors inside the library pointing away from the door
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that we would have entered into the main area, connected
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to a silent alarm. We would have been busted if
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not for whoever said those words. My friends and I
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used to climb the rooftops of buildings a lot in
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our early to mid teens. One of our favorite spots
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was the library by my house. It had a ladder
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on the backside with a gate blocking off the rungs,
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but you could grab the top of the gate and
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pull yourself up if you jumped high enough. We're all
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pretty tall, so this isn't much of a challenge for
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any of us. We got to the top and we're
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about to light our joint when we heard someone say,
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you boys better get down right now. Well. We all
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jumped and turned around, but couldn't see anybody. I hesitantly
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looked around the AC units and electrical boxes, but couldn't
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find anyone. I walked to the edge of the roof
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and looked down to the sidewalk below, but couldn't see
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anyone there either. My friends and I scanned that entire
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rooftop but couldn't find a single It was a rooftop,
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so it's not like they could have had that many
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places to hide in the first place. It startled us enough, though,
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that we decided to leave and get high somewhere else.
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We still have no idea who or what told us
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to get off the roof. Me and my crime partner
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did a lot of stuff burglaries, robberies, thefts, etc. For
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like five years. We're both Orthodox Christians, so once in
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a while we would go to church. Anyway, We're walking
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up the stairs and I see people entering the church.
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The second we try to open the door, it's locked.
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Tourists around us were taking pictures and we were the
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only ones trying to get in. We walk away twenty
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meters or so and see people walking in there. Guess
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God didn't want any thieves in there that day. This
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is something I'll never forget. So I used to work
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as a security guard at a large office building. I
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often stole things like computers, desks, chairs, etc. From the offices.
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I was very careful and never took anything during my shift.
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There were only cameras in the lobby and on the
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outside of the building, not in any tenant spaces. One
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day I found a wallet in a desk and it
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had a few hundred dollars. I took the money and
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left the wallet. I wasn't on that night. No one
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saw me enter or leave the building, and I wasn't
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on any camera. A few weeks later, a lady I'd
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never seen before came up to the security desk and
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told me that she saw me take the money and
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even knew the exact amount. She said that she wanted
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me to know that she knew. Then she left and
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I never saw her again. There is just no possible
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way she could have seen me. This one night, I
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was boosting some silverware from an old lady's house. She
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was home, but old people are pretty deaf and dang slow,
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so I really didn't care. I hear this strange sound
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coming from the room where she's watching TV. Volumes way loud, grandma,
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So I go look, and she's like having a seizure
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or something. I might be a thief, but I'm not
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a jerk. So I call nine one one. They answer crap.
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I don't know what to say. Now, Hi, I was
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just robbing this old lady's house and she's having a seizure.
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So I freeze and I say nothing. I wait with her,
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but she stops seizing, and then I hear sirens, so
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I hide in her tiny front hall closet with the
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folded doors and shutters before the EMT has arrived. She
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stops seizing, so by the time they get to her door,
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she seems fine, except confused why they're at her house.
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They make nice apologize and leave. As soon as they're gone,
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she starts seizing again. Dang it, So I call nine
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one one again just in case. Really don't want a
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dead lady on my conscience. Same thing, sirens, She stops seizing,
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answers the door. It's like a comedy at this point,
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with me hiding in the closet the bad guy with
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a heart of gold. But I'm not about to pop
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out and say but she was having a seizure. So
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they leave. Just as they drive away with her waving
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an old lady goodbye, she falls down and starts seizing again.
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Now it's just sad slash funny. Got to call nine
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to one one again for Grandma. This time, I'm thinking
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about leaving a note or something because I want to
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get out of there, so I call wait for the sirens.
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Then she stops breathing. I'm thinking, if I don't get
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out of here, murder charge. Now I hide as the
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EMTs come through the door, put an oxygen mask on
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her and take her away. By this point, my adrenaline
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is through the roof and screw it. I feel like
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I've earned the right to take as much crap as
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I can and walk out the door with it. Since
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the house is now empty, I could take my time
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going through her stuff, silverware, jewelry, cash, in the shoe box,
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you name it, if I could find it. It's mine
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a fee for being a good Samaritan. And wouldn't you
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know it, the EMT comes back. Who knows why I
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hie it again? He walks into the living room, turns
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the TV off, and grabs a bag off her chair.
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This is the part that really messes me up. As
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he turns to go, an old man just appears out
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of nowhere, pats him on the back and whispers something
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to him. But the EMG doesn't react at all, doesn't
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turn around, doesn't pause, just heads back out the door
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like the old man wasn't even there. Then the old
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guy glides to the front window and stands there waving goodbye.
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Then he disappeared. I'm standing in the closet, frozen, wondering
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what just happened, And when I feel it, somebody's breathing
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down my neck. Get out of mind house. I started running, praying,
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crying right out the door. I didn't care who saw.
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I ran like a little girl. To this day, whenever
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somebody says scared straight, I try not to remember the
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sound of that old man's voice, but I always do.
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I was seventeen. I had decided on the way home
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from school, I was going to slam my car into
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a light pole, hopefully killing myself. As I rapped my car,
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I hear a loud shotgun sound. My back right tire
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blew out. My dad came to help me change it
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shortly thereafter, without me calling anybody. I thought that oddly coincidental.
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When I was fourteen, I'm thirty three now, I used
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to boost cars for this car theft ring in California.
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I did it for several months and never got caught.
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It was more of a thrill and lack of from
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living in a bad area and lack of supervision and authority.
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In my life, I'd never been arrested or got caught.
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I was always a good kid, but I rebelled after
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my parents split up. Anyway, there was one car that
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I needed to pick up and get delivered that day.
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The boss man was extremely insistent that the order needed
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to be filled within a few hours. It was another
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job like any other, but when I was about a
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mile away from my order, I got a very uneasy
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and disturbing feeling. Nothing was out of the ordinary or
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different from the dozens of other jobs I'd done, but
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I couldn't shake the feeling. As I got closer to
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my destination, it was as if it just got noisier
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and more distracting in my head. Finally, that unsettling feeling
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overcame me and I bailed out. I saw the car
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and acted like I just wasn't paying attention. I didn't
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do the job. I kept going and knew I was
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in deep with the guy, but I decided to lay
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low because not filling an order was seriously bad news.
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That guy was not someone you disappoint or you would
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feel it. He was wrathful and on drugs, so I
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knew I had to hide for a while. Two days
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of him blowing up my pager, Yeah, that's how long
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ago it was. I had a pager. Then he calls
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and pages and it just suddenly stopped. Come to find out,
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word on the street was that the cops pulled a
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big sting operation and that car I was supposed to
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steal was being monitored. My old boss sent some other
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kid to get the car. When they followed the kid
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back to the scrapyard and did a big bust, that
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guy got arrested, That kid got arrested, A whole boatload
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of people got arrested. But no one ever came for me.
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To this day, I know God was looking out for
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me at that moment at that time, and I listened.
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Since that incident, I never pulled anything like that ever again.
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I straightened up, got back into school, and graduated with honors.
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It was all because of that weird, supernatural moment. Back
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in high school, a group of friends and I would
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break into recently built houses in our subdivision and use
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it for small parties and smoking before school. Anyway, one
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morning I was inside smoking a bowl before my bus
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arrived and heard someone that sounded like an older lady
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in one of my front rooms say you better get
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out of here. I was alone in the house and
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it was maybe seven thirty am. Being the little rebel
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I was, and legitimately confused as to who would be
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in the house so early, I went and checked the rooms.
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Of course, there wasn't anyone inside, and I never went
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back to that particular house. I've lived in that same
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subdivision for years and multiple families have moved in just
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to move out months or even weeks later. I was
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helping move coke allegedly to Queen's. I was about to
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get on the subway on Fourteenth Street when I bumped
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into an ex who is into tarot and spirits. Long story.
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After missing a couple trains, we parted ways. When I
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arrived at the building in Queens, the cops raided the
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room five minutes before I got there. I bought a
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pack of Tarot carts just out of respect criminal. Here
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partner and I were scouting out a house to rob
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elderly guy. Nobody had seen him in a few days,
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mail overflowing in the mailbox, missed a doctor's appointment, car
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hadn't moved, etc. We both know we're about to find
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a body or an empty house which we could easily rob.
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We arrive on the scene, look through the window, and
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sure enough we can see his foot on the floor
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in the living room. My partner is a seasoned robber
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and pulls and makes me go. First, door's unlocked and
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as soon as we open it, we smell a mostly
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fresh dead body. Almost relieved, we both enter and he
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tells me to check vitals on the dead dude. He's
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obviously dead with lividity, dried feces on him and dried
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saliva around his mouth. So I go to stand over
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him and see if I can get a pulse, at
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which point he takes a deep breath, rolls over and
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asks why we're in his house. At this point we
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both start screaming and run out of the house. I
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only managed to grab one silver spoon. I think he
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died a week later in the hospital. I still get
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jokes about raising the dead. I used to grow a
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little weed and party on a plot of farm land
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in Wisconsin. We'd have friends up every Memorial Day. We'd
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camp off the side of an off road loop where
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we created a camping spot, canoeing, partying, binge drinking. One night,
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I took my eighty nine Chevy Blazer with a car
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load of people to the river for a swim. On
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the way back, I was driving like a bat out
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of hell, sending people bouncing all over on purpose and
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continue driving like that around the loop past the camp spot.
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When somebody from the back grabbed me and pulled me
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back in my driver's seat and yelled stop. Well, I
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slammed on the brakes and everyone went flying forward through
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it reverse, made a three point turn to pull in
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and park at the camp spot. The passengers had had
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enough and didn't want to pass up the tents and
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fresh beer. All poured out of the car laughing. A
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few minutes go by and Mike is yelling at something
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on the trail. I go over there, and in the dirt,
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passed out cold with mud on his face from my
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front tire was this drunken friend of ours. I immediately
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started freaking out, screaming how if Mike didn't see him
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and tell me to stop, he'd be dead. If I
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didn't pull in reverse after stopping, he would be dead.
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I was kicking him and ticked until Mike stopped me
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to say that he didn't see anything. Nobody saw anything,
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Nobody grabbed me, but sure as hell, I swear on
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my children, something grabbed me and yelled me to stop
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and saved his life that night. I don't consider myself
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a criminal. In fact, I pride myself in being a
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very ethical person. But one time I committed a minor
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crime that led me to think there might be some
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supernatural involvement here. I went to hobby lobby, a clearly
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Christian establishment, bought some balsa wood, needed four or five pieces,
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saw a six pack, and picked it up. When I
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went to the register, I realized that the cashier was
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charging me for only one piece of wood. I guess
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it was not a six pack. It was probably the
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bulk packaging that came from the manufacturer and the employees
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just never put them up. When I realized I was
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getting charged for one piece only out of the stack
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of six, I decided to let its slide. I didn't
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point it out. I walked out with six pieces for
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the price of one, so really I stole five pieces.
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Fast forward a few days. I'm using a table saw
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to cut grooves in the wood to make some small
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gift boxes. I'm doing a pretty decent job until I
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stopped to chat with a friend and have a couple
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of glasses of wine. I don't know what possessed me,
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other than boredom, to return to the table saw. The
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first cut took some skin off the tips of three
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of my fingers, so I go to the er for
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some emergency stitching, get my tetanus shot, etc. Have surgery
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to reconstruct my fingertips using cadaver skin. Shout out to
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whoever's fingerprints I now have thanks man. Shortly after surgical wounds,
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become infected with MRSA, more hospitalization and antibiotics. At this point,
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starting to feel God's wrath and mind you, I'm not
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a Christian. I was only very superficially Catholic long enough
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to get my first communion and then drop the whole
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idea at bat. But thinking about the chain of events
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that unfolded from five stolen pieces of balsawood, I could
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not help but believe that this was a sign from
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a higher power. So I went back to hobby lobby
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with one of the pieces of balsawood. I asked to
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speak to a manager and I explained the situation to
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him and told him that I want to pay for
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those other five pieces of balsa wood because I really
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needed to be done with it. I said it was
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a real load off my shoulders and I felt better
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after telling him that. He said it made him feel
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like a priest receiving confession. Now that was my first confession.
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It was not after a series of Catechism classes nor
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at the indicated age. But it did happen as a
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result of learning a lesson, so I guess that counts,
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even if I am no longer Catholic. Once I stole
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this kid's doll when I got home, I was bored
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and thought it'd be kind of funny to chant a
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demonic incantation over it. Suddenly, my roommate dropped dead, and
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the doll actually stood up and ran out the door.
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I didn't mention anything about the doll to the paramedics
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because I didn't think they'd believe me. My roommate's death
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was ruled natural causes, but I still can't help feeling
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responsible that maybe I actually did tap into some sort
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of spiritual curse. Back in high school, me and my
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friends liked to go places we shouldn't and smoke pot.
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So on April twentieth, for twenty one year, we all
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go to our old elementary school at like ten thirty
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at night to blaze it. Since it was so late,
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we were kind of trespassing. On the way there, my
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friend whose mom worked at the school, told us about
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how one of the old janitors told his mom that
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a long time ago, a girl died in a l
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slide on the hill behind the school. So we're walking
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around the buildings when suddenly we hear a very loud, clear,
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little girl scream coming from the direction of the playground,
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which would make sense if it wasn't ten thirty on
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a school night. It was one of those moments out
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of a movie. We were all just looking at each other,
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mouths agape. We booked it out of there as fast
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as possible. It broke into this one abandoned house once.
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It sat on the edge of the block and was
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behind a tall white wall, so you only saw what
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the yard looked like once she climbed over old shopping carts, toys,
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old doghouse, kind of dreary. Doors of the house had
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boards on it, so had to pry those off with
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a crowbar. Once on the inside, everything was black. Looked
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like the entire inside had been coated in soot, from
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the ceiling to the bathtub to the windows, just all black.
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Thought that was weird anyway. I spent a whole week
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there in the darkest part of winter, and I'm sure
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that there was more than one reason I never got
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a good night's sleep. I remember a creepy story with
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a similar theme like this. A guy was talking about
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how he'd squat in a house that had been put
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on the market. He had a key to get in
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because he knew the owners, and he'd sleep and shower
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there after work. He talked about how one night, while
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he slept, the phone started ringing. He couldn't figure out
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where it was coming from, and then he saw police
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cars pull up in the driveway. He hid while they
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scanned the windows and doors, and then booked it after
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they left. He later came back and said that the
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locks had been changed. He looked at the whole thing
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like the house was warning him that he was about
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to be kicked out. I tried to kill someone. I
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had it out of body experience while doing it. I'm
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not exactly a faithful person, but I think something actually
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did stop me from killing him. I'm a pretty talented pickpocket.
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Slight kleptomania. Lifted a wallet from a man as I
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came up behind him on the street, almost zero contact.
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No one should have noticed a thing, but the man
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spoke out very calmly as I passed him, could I
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have that back? Please? Turned around to see he was
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wearing sunglasses. He lifted them up and revealed he was blind.
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I was so completely dumb struck and baffled that I
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apologized and gave him back to wallet. Wasn't too worried
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about him picking me out of a lineup anyway, and
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didn't want to be that guy that steals from the handicapped.
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I guess his sense of touch was sharpened by the
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loss of sight or something like that. For a brief second,
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I was sure this man was a warlock. Something similar
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happened to a friend of mine. He worked at an
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expensive liquor store, and I decided to steal some bottles
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of wine one night. Just a minute or so after
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opening the back door and walking into the darkness, he
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claims to have heard a voice say what are you doing?
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He immediately felt frightened and left without the wine. Wow.
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I have never heard another person's story like this. A
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buddy of mine was driving to college and got pulled
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over mass traffic stop after just finishing a bowl. I know,
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irresponsible and dangerous. We did dumb stuff back then, and
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we all regret it. He pulled up behind another car
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and stopped. Then the cop who was talking to the
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other car walked past my buddy's truck. The car in
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front starts to pull off. Then my buddy says, he
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just hears a voice in his head say go, and
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he pulled away just like that. He spent the remainder
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of his drive back to school just waiting for the
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cops to show up on his butt, but they never did.
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I'm pretty sure that's when he decided to quit smoking pot.
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I always believed his story. He's one of my oldest
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friends and sitting just about at the top of my
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list when it comes to godparents for my future kids.
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I trust him with anything. Still hard to believe, though.
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One day I went to rob a house of an
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old lady. Got to the door, thought it was my
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lucky day because it was unlocked, so I quietly made
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my way to the living room and almost crapped my pants.
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The old lady was sitting in silence, staring at some
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unknown presence in the garden, not moving at all. I
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didn't want to be ghost food, so I left, and
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now I only rob young ladies changed my life. Man.
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I grew up in a small town and me and
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some friends made it our goal one summer to break
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into every building possible at night. We didn't want to
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steal anything or actually break anything to get in. It
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was more of a test of our ability to pick
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law or create ways during the day that would make
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it easy to get in at night. We got into
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the elementary school one night. There was rumors of a
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bomb shelter in the basement, so we just had to
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check it out. It was true. The basement janitor closet
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had a big metal door, and inside there was some
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bomb shelter warnings and instructional stuff along with regular janitor equipment.
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Nothing interesting or crazy happened while we were in the school,
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and we left after a short period of time. We
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hung out on the playground equipment afterwards. Around one am,
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while we were just hanging out there a tapping sound
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from the third floor window of the school started. We
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all stopped talking and looked up. I couldn't see anything
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in the window, and then bam, bam, bam, three incredibly
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loud slams against the window. The window was shaking, but
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still nothing to be seen. We ran to the closest
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friend's house because it scared the crap out of all
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of us. We forced an entry into an abandoned and
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dismantled psychiatric asylum. We wandered the halls and had a
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look in all the various rooms, some nice and open
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with windows and bathrooms, some small and cell like the
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w rec room had iron bars over the window frames.
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And in the center of the whole building was a
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quiet little courtyard with a few drill holes where benches
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used to be. There wasn't the sense of being watched
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or a presence, but somehow I could feel the history
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of fear and confusion of the place. The urge to
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leave was strong, and I was caught in a weird
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place of moving fast but remaining consciously calm. I had
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to keep reminding myself that everything was fine and that
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I could go outside at any time. Up next, Weird
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family member, A Tretia tells of a glorifying series of
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nights when she and her sister encountered a demon under
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one of their beds in York County, Pennsylvania. A suspected
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witch is murdered, and thus began the dark story of
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the Heck' House. These stories and more when Weird Darkness returns.
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If you're listening to this right now, you're already a
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part of the Weirdo family. But there is a deeper,
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darker corner of this family, and it's called the Official Weirdos.
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For just five bucks a month, official Weirdos get every
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episode of Weird Darkness completely commercial free. They get bonus
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episodes every single week that nobody else hears. They get
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chapters of the audiobooks I'm narrating, and they hear those
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chapters before the authors and publishers I'm narrating them for
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really before the people who hired me. Every weeknight, official
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Weirdos and I gather for a live premier chat, listen
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to the new episode, drop together, and talk about whatever's
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on our minds while it plays. It's the closest thing
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to sitting in the studio with me. Official Weirdos also
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get direct access to me through personal messaging, plus inside
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news about the show and what I'm working on that
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nobody else hears about all of that for just five
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bucks a month. And if you want to go deeper,
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there are higher tiers Loyal Weirdos and avowed Weirdos, where
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free Weird Darkness merchandise starts showing up at your door
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every three months. Stickers, mugs, posters, t shirts, tote bags, hoodies.
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You'll see everything when you visit the page. If any
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of that sounds like you're kind of weird, add to
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Weirddarkness dot com slash official and join the family. That's
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Weirddarkness dot com slash official. The other official weirdos are
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anxious to meet you. I'd insert an evil laugh here,
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but I think that'd probably be a bit over the top.
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When I was younger, my sister and and I shared
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a bed and a room. We were generally happy and healthy,
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with vivid imaginations, despite what happened to us for one
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solid week in our past. I was about seven at
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the time, my sister was nearly ten, and we were
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just snuggling down to sleep in our new room in
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the house our parents had just spent the last two
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days moving us into. We were happy and expecting to
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make new friends in the quiet community of sun Ray's Hexes.
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As we closed our eyes and drifted off to sleep,
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something very unnerving happened. The bed began to shake, knocking
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into the wall of the shared wall between our room
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and our parents' room. It was violent and loud, and
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knocked my sister and I into each other's arms. Just
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as the bed finally stopped shaking. Our mother opened the
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door and turned on the lights. Just what are you
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two up to, she said, in a very exasperated manner.
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Apparently our brother had just gotten to sleep, and the
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shaking bed had woken him and our mother from their
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sleep too. My sister and I both claimed innocence, after all,
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we had not moved to the bed. It was a
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huge bed, and we barely weighed a hundred pounds together.
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This continued over the next couple of days, always ending
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with our mother coming in to chide us for being
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so loud and knocking on the wall. On the fourth day,
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my sister and I determined not to go to sleep
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until we saw what was making the bed move. We
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sat huddled together in the darkness, my sister hoarding the
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flashlight she had liberated from Dad's toolbox, waiting for the
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bed to move. Sometime after Mom went to sleep, we
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were still watching, even if our eyes were growing heavy
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with the need to sleep. I was sure that it
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would not happen that night, mostly because we were waiting
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for it to happen, but my sister was absolutely sure
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it would. Just as I was about to give up
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and turn over for sleep, we heard a knock that
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came from above our heads. My sister clicked on the flashlight,
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aiming it in the direction of the sound upon the headboard,
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and there we saw the most frightening thing our little
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brains could have seen at that time, ahnd rising up
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from between the bed and the wall. From beneath the bed,
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we both let out squeals afright, jumping up and hugging
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each other as the sound of an evil laugh filled
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the room. The sound was cut off only by the
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banging of the bedroom door opening and Mom turning on
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our bedroom light. We both jumped up from our bed
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and ran into our arms, blabbering like babies, scared to death.
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Mom took us into the living room, and although she
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was very irritated by being awakened by two of her
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children screaming bloody murder in the middle of the night,
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she let us sleep in bed with her until Dad
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came home and carried us back into our bed. The
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next night, our parents decided that we were just scaring
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ourselves silly with telling ghost stories. We were put back
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in our room and were both scared to death as
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the bed began and shaking once more, this time However,
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my sister did something that's very much not a part
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of her character. She leaned over the side of the
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bed and clicked on the flashlight as the bed began
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to shake. When she did, I saw the thing that
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leapt up from under the bed and ran out of
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the room as our mother turned on the light with
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a very irritated and exasperated look on her face. It's
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something I will never forget, nor will my sister, this
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thing that was beneath our bed. Looking at each other,
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we both silently agreed not to mention what we had
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just seen. Instead, we said it was the Boogeyman. The truth, however,
537
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was much different. What was beneath that bed was, in
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my sister's definition, demonic. It was definitely in the guise
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of an old man with creepy, glowing eyes and long,
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talon like fingers. He didn't have hair, but strings of long,
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nearly transparent locks hung here and there about his shoulders,
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nearly corpse like than bald. His teeth were sharp and broken,
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and his ears stuck out at odd angles from his head.
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Besides that, he was dressed in rags, but his feet
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were bare. Since that night, my sister has refused to
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sleep without a light on in the room. She also
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has refused to speak about it, with the idea that
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just talking about the demonic beings will bring them into
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your life. I respect that, even if I believe differently.
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I can't help but wonder, though, if anyone else has
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been visited by this boogeyman. In York County, Pennsylvania, there
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was a place called Spring Valley County Park. Before it
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was given that benign designation, however, it was known by
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the ominous name of hex Hollow. In nineteen twenty eight,
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a local man and suspected witch named Nelson Raymier was
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murdered in his home in an effort by another local
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man to remove a curse. Though the so called He's
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house was set on fire in the aftermath of the murder,
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it survived the blaze and still stands today. In two
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thousand seven, Raymeyer's descendants opened it to the public as
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a museum featuring displays about his life and death. The
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killer man, named John Blimere, believed that Nelson Raymyer was
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a witch who had placed a curse on him. This
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wasn't unusual at the time. Many people in central Pennsylvania
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in the nineteen twenties, practiced a kind of folk magic
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called powwow, with mixed elements of Christianity and European folk remedies.
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In fact, Blimeir himself was a powow doctor. After a
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string of illnesses and bad luck, Blmeir became convinced that
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he was laboring under a curse. Unable to figure out
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the source of the curse, he turned to another local witch,
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Nellie Nole, known as the Marietta River Witch. She confirmed
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his fears and told him that the author of his
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misfortune was none other than Nelson Raymier, who had once
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cured Blimeir of a childhood illness using his powow magic.
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According to some accounts, it was Nellie Knowle who told
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Blimere that in order to break the curse, he needed
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a lock of Raymyer's hair, which he had to bury
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six feet in the ground. Then he had to burn
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ray Meyer's copy of The Long Lost Friend, an eighteen
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twenty book of folk magic written by John George Hoeman
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and commonly employed by powwow practitioners. On November twenty sixth,
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nineteen twenty eight, Blmeir and a friend visited Raymier's house
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in search of his copy of The Long Lost Friend.
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The story goes that they spent a peaceful night there,
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with Blimere holding back on his attack after realizing that
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it would take more than two men to subdue the witch.
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The next night, Blimeir and his friend returned with another accomplice,
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and the three of them assaulted Raymier. The struggle is
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said to have lasted only about a minute, and at
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the end of it, Raymyer was dead. Perhaps because they
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were unable to find Raymyer's copy of The Long Lost Friend,
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the three men attempted to burn down the entire house
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of the witch. The fact that the Heck's house survived
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the blaze was cited as fur their evidence of Raymyer's
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supernatural powers. Blmere would later attest that the hes placed
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upon him was broken the moment that Raymyer died. All
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three men were captured, and the murder cast national attention
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upon the area, as papers all over the country ran
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stories about the York hex slayers. Blimere and his first accomplice,
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John Curry, both received life sentences for their roles and
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the murder, while the other accomplice, Wilbert Hess was given
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a sentence of ten to twenty years. All three were
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eventually released without having served out their full sentences. The
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region's strange medical tradition, which some still practice even today,
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as well as the murder, partly inspired a series of
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books by horror author Brian Keene, himself a native of
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central Pennsylvania. In twenty fifteen, a filmmaker named Shane Free
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released a feature length documentary about the murder called hex Hollow,
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Witchcraft and Murder in Pennsylvania, which features interviews with surviving
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relatives of those involved, as well as with folklorists and
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experts in the pow wow tradition. When weird Darkness returns?
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Was there a conspiracy to murder Hollywood actress Marilyn Monroe?
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That story is up next. What happens when consciousness separates
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from the body. For centuries, people have described the same
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impossible moment, suddenly floating above themselves, watching events unfold from
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somewhere beyond the physical world. I left my body. Chilling
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True Out of Body Experiences, written by Linda Grimm and
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Tom Lyons, collects the first hand accounts of ordinary people
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who lived it. Some left their bodies during sleep, others
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in moments of trauma or meditation, or circumstances no one
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could explain. A few weren't sure they'd ever get back in.
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Some of these experiences were peaceful, others were deeply disturbing,
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but every witness remembers the same realization they were no
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longer inside their body. Narrated by Weird Darkness host Darren Marler,
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this collection will leave you questioning what happens when the
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mind slips free of the physical world. I left my
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body chilling true out of body experiences. Find it on
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the audiobooks page at Weirddarkness dot com, or look for
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it on Amazon and Audible. In the early hours of Sunday,
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August fifth, nineteen sixty two, psychiatrist Ralph Greenson broke into
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a bedroom of a house in the Brentwood area of
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Los Angeles. On the bed was the body of a
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lifeless young woman, nude, clutching a telephone. It was me
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Lyn Monroe. Greenson immediately phoned for Monroe's internist, doctor Hyman Engelberg,
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who upon his arrival, pronounced her dead. It was three
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point fifty a m. News of the death reverberated around
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the world. The actress was already at the age of
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thirty six, a Hollywood legend and the most famous and
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photographed woman in the world. The official verdict was suicide.
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An array of empty pill bottles were found on the
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bedside table. The tabloids reported the suicide story in lurid
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front page headlines. So huge was her star Monroe's apparent
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suicide even inspired a wave of copycats around the United States.
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The coroner's report offered an insight into the troubled actress's mind.
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Miss Monroe has suffered from psychiatric disturbance for a long time.
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On more than one occasion, when disappointed or depressed, she
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has made a suicide attempt. On these asians, she has
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been rescued. It is our opinion the same pattern was repeated,
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except for the rescue, it concluded. Some, however, were less
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sure the tragic star's death was suicide. Numerous suspicious inconsistencies
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and contradictory witness testimony have fueled persistent rumors that the
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star was actually murdered. The first policeman to arrive, Sergeant
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Jack Clemens, wasn't called until four twenty five am, more
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than thirty minutes after Monroe was pronounced dead. This unexplained
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delay in calling the police was just the first troubling
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detail of the crime scene. Clemens immediately felt something was wrong.
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He thought it obvious the body had been moved, and
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whilst there were empty pill bottles on the bedside table,
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there was no water or glass with which to take them. Why, too,
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was there no vomit. Monroe had taken a massive overdose
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of nembui, a barbituate that should have caused vomiting. Most
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suspicious of all, Clemens noticed Monroe's housekeeper, Eunice Murray, was
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washing sheets in another part of the house. Had there
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been a cleanup of the crime scene, and if so, why?
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The autopsy report only added to the confusion. Monroe had
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taken a massive overdose of drugs, but no trace of
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the pills were found in her stomach. By all accounts,
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the actress was in turmoil at the time of her death.
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Addicted to drink and drugs. She was unraveling, trying to
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cope with her tangled life, her failed marriages, the Kennedys,
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the mafia, her fading Hollywood career. Perhaps it had all
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gotten too much for the tragic star. She had a
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history of suicide, attempts. Was this just one where she
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had finally succeeded, or, as some suggest, was the overdose
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accidental and covered up to disguise the grossness negligence of
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her doctors. Witnesses would later emerge to attest that Monroe
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had died hours earlier than in the official story, and
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most sensationally of all, that Attorney General Bobby Kennedy and
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his brother in law Peter Lawford were at the house
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that night. Rumour had it that Monroe had been threatening
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to go to the press with details of her scandalous
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romantic liaisons with both Bobby Kennedy and his brother, President
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John F. Kennedy. There were even reports she had kept
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a red diary, which, aside from lurid sexual details of
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her affairs with the Kennedys, contained incriminating references to the
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Kennedy's plots to kill Castro and even their ties to
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the mafia. Was Bobby Kennedy there that night to locate
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the diary and did he take the most extreme measures
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to silence her and stop her from going to the press.
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Was Marilyn Monroe murdered? Although the officials is that Marilyn
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Monroe was pronounced dead by her doctor around three point
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fifty am. Much evidence exists that she was found dead
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long before that time. Eunice Murray was Monroe's housekeeper and
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had been placed in the actress's employ by her psychiatrist,
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Robert Greenson. Murray is the main witness to the time
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of Monroe's death. She initially told police that she knocked
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on Maryland's door around midnight but got no reply. Concerned,
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she alerted Greenson, who arrived at the house shortly followed
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by Monroe's internist, doctor Hyman Engelberg. According to Murray, after
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breaking through the French windows of Maryland's bedroom, Greenson and
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Murray discovered Maryland's dead body laid out on the bed
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after a long unexplained gap, Greenson, Murray, and Engelberg then
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notified the police at four twenty five am. This timeline
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is somewhat consistent with the undertaker, Guy Hackett, who arrived
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at the house around five forty am. From the state
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of rigor Mortis. Hawcket estimated the time of death between
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nine thirty pm and eleven thirty PM, but then it
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got complicated. Murray, Greenson, and Engelberg quickly changed their story. Now.
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Murray says she went to bed at twelve and didn't
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knock on Monroe's door until three am, after noticing the
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light on in her room. In this revised timeline, Greenson
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found Maryland dead at three forty am and Engelberg pronounced
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her dead at three point fifty am. Why the huge
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disparity in stories was it to conceal a clean up
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of the crime scene or worse? Sergeant Jack Clemens, the
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first policeman at the scene, was called out at four
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to twenty five am. He was immediately suspicious that the
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crime scene had been altered. According to Clemens, the body
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looked to be in an unnatural position, as if it
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had been posed. The bedroom was rangely tidy, and most
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mysterious of all, there was no glass of water. Monroe
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had supposedly then swallowed upwards of sixty pills without water.
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The actress had always had trouble swallowing pills and required
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copious amounts of water to do so. And why, Clemens wondered,
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was Eunice Murray running the washer and dryer in the
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middle of the night as her employer lay dead in
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her bedroom. There was clearly a problem with the story
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coming out of the house, and more evidence would everge
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to cast doubt on what the trio was saying. According
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to Natalie Trundy, she was attending a Hollywood Bowl concert
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with her future husband, Arthur Jacobs, who was Monroe's agent
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at the time. Jacobs received a call from Monroe's lawyer,
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Mickey Rudin, and it was shocking. Marilyn Monroe, Jacobs was
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told was dead. The actor Peter Lawford, Monroe's friend and
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the Kennedy's brother in law, was also told by Rudine
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that Monroe was dead before her body had supposedly even
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been discovered. If Monroe's agent and lawyer already knew she
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was dead at ten thirty PM, then this discredits both
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stories coming from the house, indicating a cover up was
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already in action. The new ten thirty pm timeline is
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also most consistent with Guy Hawkeett's estimate of the time
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of death of around nine thirty to eleven thirty pm.
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It was clear then that something was very wrong with
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the official story coming from Monroe's house. Was there a
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cover up? If so, what was its purpose. Eunice Murray's
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accounts of what happened that night have been contradictory and
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evasive over the years. According to author and investigative journalist
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Anthony Summers, Murray finally came clean to him about what
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really happened in an interview in nineteen eighty five. The
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reason for the cover story, Murray told Somers, was because
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Robert Kennedy was at the house that day and an
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ambulance had been called much earlier, when Marylyn was still alive.
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Summers asked her why she had lied. I told whatever
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I thought was good to tell, Murray told him. Attorney
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General Robert Kennedy was officially in San Francisco on the
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day of Monroe's death, but Eunice Murray's shocking revelation to
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Somers was not the only evidence that this was a lie.
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Twentieth century Fox publicist Frank Neil saw Kennedy arrive by
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helicopter at the studio's heliport near Stage fourteen early Saturday afternoon,
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where he was whisked away in a limousine driven by
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his brother in law, actor Peter Lawford. This limousine was
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later stopped by Beverly Hills traffic policeman Lynn Franklin, who
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says he observed Lawford at the wheel and Robert Kennedy
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in the back with a man he later identified as
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Ralph Greenson. Whilst the sightings of Kennedy could perhaps be
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dismissed as hearsay, they were confirmed by LA Police Chief DARYLD.
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Gates and other senior LA Police detectives through their surveillance
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of the airport. The truth is, we knew Robert Kennedy
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was in town on August fourth. Gates later said, we
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always knew when he was in town. Kennedy, it seems,
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was certainly in LA that day and lied about it.
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Could there be another reason, unrelated to Monroe for him
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to be there that he didn't want to disclose. Some
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have speculated that Kennedy may have been meeting with mob
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bosses and this was his reason for lying. However, there
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are reasons to doubt this was the case. Kennedy was
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seen in the presence of actor Peter Lawford, a friend
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of Monroe's, and numerous witnesses place him at her house
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on the day and even night of her death. Whatever
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this reason for being there, it seemed to center on
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the actress. Aside from Eunice Murray's statement to Sumner's in
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nineteen eighty five. There are several other reasons to believe
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Robert Kennedy visiting Mayor Lyne that day. Murray's son in law,
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Norman Jeffries, confirmed Murray's story. Kennedy had arrived that afternoon
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with Peter Lawford and there had been a violent argument
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between him and Monroe. According to Jeffreys, Kennedy came back
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with two men at around ten PM, a fact confirmed
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by neighbors of Marilyn Monroe, who also saw Kennedy enter
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the property with the two men. This is where the
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case against Robert Kennedy takes a very dark turn. Jeffries
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and Murray were ordered out of the house after Kennedy
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and the man left. They re entered the house to
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find Marilyn Comatos in the guest bedroom. What was the
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purpose of Robert Kennedy's visit to Monroe's house and was
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he really responsible for her death? One obvious motive was
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Marilynd's threats to go to the press over her relationship
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with Bobby and his brother, President Kennedy. This could have
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destroyed both men's careers. Even worse was the diary she
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was said to keep in it was not only the
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scandalous details of her sexual adventures with the two men,
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but incriminating accounts of conversations she had had with them
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about the plot to murder Castro. Marylyn had become a
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security risk. Furthermore, her relationship with a Mexican man who
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was a suspected Communist agent had peaked the interest of
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the FBI. One way or the other, the star had
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become a major security risk. Did Bobby Kennedy then take
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matters in his own hands and attempt to persuade Maryland
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to hand over the diary and keep her mouth shut?
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Evidence supports this scenario. According to Norman Jeffreys, Monroe's filing
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cabinet had been broken into on the night of her death.
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Had Kennedy been searching for the diary? Private eye Robert
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Otash claimed to have bugged Monroe's house, probably on behalf
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of the FBI papers that emerge after Otash's death reveal
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sensational details about what he had heard. Recounting Kennedy's visit
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to Monroe on the day of the murder, Otash described
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a violent struggle between the pair. Kennedy was heard to
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shout where is it? Whilst Monroe complained about her treatment
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by him and his brother. Had Kennedy and the man
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he was with deliberately murder Monroe or had an attempt
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to restrain or sedate her gone badly wrong. It's difficult
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to reconcile the image of the inspiring progressive Robert Kennedy
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with a murder go so grubby and desperate, but the
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evidence he was presented at her home that fateful day
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is persuasive. And soon after Marilyn Monroe was dead, the
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coroner's report labeled Marilyn Monroe's death a probable suicide, indicating
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even they were not quite sure what it happened. The
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toxicology report finding suggests she died of a massive overdose
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of barbituates. The amount of puno barbitol in her blood
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was three times the fatal dose. There were also large
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concentrations of the drug in her liver. It's estimated she
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would have had to take somewhere between twenty five and
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fifty of her nembutal pills to reach these levels. On
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top of this, there was also near lethal levels of
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chloral hydrate in her blood, accounting for almost twenty capsules
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of the drug. The enduring medical mystery behind the death
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of Marilyn Monroe is how these drugs got into her body.
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At her autopsy, not a trace of the drugs or
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pill capsules were found in her stomach. It's been argued
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that the yellow nembutal pill rappings could have broken down
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and left no trace in her stomach, but Thomas Nogucci,
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the pathologist, could find no traces of the fine refractive crystals,
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which should have also been present. In a standard textbook
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on drug related deaths, toxicologist Robert H. Cravey studied over
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fifteen hundred cases. In every case of a drug overdose
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through oral entry, I've always found drugs in the stomach,
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Cravey said. The findings for the autopsy only echoed odd
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details from the crime scene. Jack Clemens, the final police
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officer to arrive at Monroe's house, could find no glass
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or water in her bedroom. Howard Monroe swallowed so many
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pills without water. The police report also noted the lack
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of vomit, which would be expected from someone who had
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orally overdosed on barbituates. Also missing was the acrid pair
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like odor characteristics of chlorohydrate overdoses, with no evidence that
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Monroe had injected the drugs. This left a real mystery. Clearly,
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if she had not administered the substances herself, then it
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could not be suicide. John W. Minor, former Deputy District
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Attorney of La County, was present at the autopsy. He
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believes Marilyn may have been killed by an enema or
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more of the nebutahs dissolved in water and administered anally.
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If Minor's right, then whoever administered the enema was Monroe's killer.
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Marilyn Monroe was one of Hollywood's brightest and most vivacious stars.
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Few would suspect that beyond her glamour, she was plagued
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by intense feelings of isolation, inadequacies, and loneliness. She once wrote,
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help help help I feel life coming closer when all
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I want is to die. Playwright Arthur Miller, Monroe's third husband,
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once described her as the saddest person I know. Marilyn
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Monroe was born in nineteen twenty six. She never knew
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her father, a fact which preoccupied her for much of
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her life. Her mother, Gladys, suffered from mental illness and oppression,
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which led to the young Marylyn spending much of her
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early life in foster homes. In some of these foster homes,
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Monroe was sexually abused. She was brave enough to tell
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of the abuse, but she was not believed by those
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she trusted. This double trauma had a profound effect on
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her adult life. She would continually seek father figures. Her
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three marriages were all to older men, and Clark Gable,
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her much older co star in The Misfits, was someone
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she clung onto. Many psychologists think Monroe's promiscuity and constant
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search for father figures were due to her traumatic childhood experiences.
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Her behavior also had classic hallmarks of suicide. Sexual abuse, abandonment, isolation,
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and a family history of mental health issues are all
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warning signals. Indeed, Monroe had attempted suicide on numerous occasions
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when she was younger. She tried to kill herself twice
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when she was a teenager during her marriage to James Dougherty.
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She tried again in nineteen fifty after a failed relationship.
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Another suicide was attempted during her marriage to playwright Arthur Miller.
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Many psychologists today believe Monroe suffered from bipolar disorder, a
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syndrome characterized by extreme shifts in mood. This, along with
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her chronic insomnia and drug use are classic risk factors
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for suicide. Hollywood columnist James Bacon saw Marilyn just days
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before her death. She was drinking champagne and straight vodka
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and occasionally popping a pill. Bacon told the La Times,
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I said, Marylyn, the combination of pills and alcohol will
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kill you, and she said it hasn't killed me yet.
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Then she took another drink and popped another pill. I
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know at night she took barbituates. Even on the night
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of her death, despite recently receiving a prescription from her doctor,
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she was phoning friends from more pills. If we discount
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the suspicious elements of her death, Monroe's psychological problems, along
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with her excessive use of prescription drugs, make the official
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suicide verdict all too plausible. Whilst it's fairly certain that
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Robert Kennedy was in la and in all probability at
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Monroe's house the day she died, the idea he killed
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her is highly problematic. If Kennedy was behind any kind
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of premeditated plot to kill the actress, the last place
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in the world he would be is that her house
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the day of the murder. Logic dictates he would ensure
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there was as much distance figuratively and literally between him
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and Monroe as possible. The fact he was seen by
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numerous people at her house that day seriously discounts the
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possibility that he was involved in any planned operation to
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murder her. A recent investigation for Court TV made a
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convincing case that Monroe's death was a tragic medical accident.
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According to Court TV, her psychiatrist Ralph Greenson gave the
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actress a sedative enema of chloral hydrate to help her
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slay and to try and wean her off the barbituouate nebutah.
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The program argues that Greenson was unaware that her internist
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doctor Hymen Engelberg, was continuing to prescribe her nebutah, and
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the lethal interaction of the drugs caused Monroe's death. Monroe's lawyer,
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Mickey Rudin reportedly heard Greenson say that night, gosh, darn it,
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he gave her a prescription I didn't know about. The
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program suggests the cover up and suspicious behavior of Greenson
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and Eunice Murray were to cover up what would have
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been a damaging case of medical negligence. For the Psychiatrist.
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Thanks for listening. If you like the show, please share
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it with someone you know who loves the paranormal or
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strange stories, true crime, monsters, or unsolved mysteries like you do.
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All stories in Weird Darkness are purported to be true
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unless stated otherwise, and you can find source links or
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is a production and trademark of Marler House Productions. And
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now that we're coming out of the dark, I'll leave
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you with a little light Proverbs ten, verse fourteen. Wise
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men store up knowledge, but the mouth of a fool
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invites ruin. And a final thought, Imperfection is beauty, Madness
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is genius, and it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than
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absolutely boring. Marilyn Monroe. I'm Darren Marler. Thanks for joining
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me in the Weird Darkness.