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where Wade Killer interviews one of pro Wrestling's newsmakers.
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Ten years ago.
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This week, I interviewed Just Incredible, former ECW champion, former
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longtime WWF wrestler or a number of different names, and
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he talked about Russelmania thirty two and how it was
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shaping up, some thoughts on the alternative universe version of
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what Russemania thirty two could have been, a long list
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And then after that Pat McNeil's interview from February third,
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twenty sixteen with Trevor Murdoch talking about a wider ray
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upcoming events. So let's get to it. This is a
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twenty twenty six.
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It is Thursday, February fourth, twoenty sixteen, and Thursday means
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interview Thursday, and today we welcome back one of our
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favorite recurring guests on the program, former ECW World Heavyweight Champion,
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former WWF wrestler Justin Credible, also known as PJ Palaco
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or Pach.
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PJ. How's it going.
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It's going great? Wait, how you doing?
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Doing really good? Thanks for taking time out for the
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show again.
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Today, Oh, anytime, It's always my pleasure.
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Uh PAG.
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My first question for you is what do you think
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of Triple H against Roman Reigns as the leading contender
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right now to be the WrestleMania thirty two main event
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in Dallas in front of somewhere in the neighborhood or
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not one hundred thousand people. Is that a suitable main
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event in twenty sixteen to fill that building?
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I don't think so, just personal opinion as a fan.
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Strictly as a fan, yeah, I think there's something missing.
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You know, Hunters a great performer. I'm sure the match
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will be great, but from a fan interest standpoint, it's
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not going to you know, I don't know. It's not
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going to tackle my fancy.
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I wouldn't.
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I wouldn't pay to watch it, you know. Personally think now,
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I think now with the ww we expect is more.
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You're paying for WrestleMania for the spectacle of what WrestleMania
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has become, and I personally think that it just doesn't
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It doesn't do it for me. There's no interest you
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know they've been fans are smarter than that these days.
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They know that they're going with the Roman reigns, and
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you know, putting them over on Triple H would be
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you know, supposedly this big crowning achievement.
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Yeah, and I mean that certainly is the betting line
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is Roman reigns beats Triple H at WrestleMania. We got
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an email question related to this topic. I'll start with that,
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but of course encourage everybody to give us a call.
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of our first commercial break in just a moment, so
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you can get in line now. Six four, six, nine
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two eight. David emails and says, dear Wade and Justin,
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I've had a few hectic weeks at work and I'm
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just now catching up on the progressing Torture newsletter. I
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definitely recommend reading this fine periodical if you're a VIP
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member only for audio, and last week's had notes. You
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spoke about the likely disaster that would result if a
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babyfaced Roman rains and heal Triple H met at WrestleMania.
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I could help but think about Wresselmania eighteen between the
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Rock and Hulk Hogan. Sure it was in bizarro world,
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i e. Canada, but the fans voice Seripian about who
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should be in which role. The rest of Many eighteen
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main event was memorable, likely because the two men involved.
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But can WW face a similar situation this year and
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actually benefit from it? Could there be a double turn?
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If you will trademark Dusty Rhodes? So what about that
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David suggesting possibly Triple H is a heel going into
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the match Roman or into baby Face. The crowd totally
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turns in favor of Triple H or cheers Triple H
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stays against Roman. Could that lead to either a planned
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or an optional hardcore heel turn from Roman reigns? Would
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the timing be right if you're gonna turn Roman, to
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turn him in front of a crowd totally rejecting him
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at the biggest spectacle of the year.
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I mean, it could definitely be done, but jeez, it
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just to me doesn't seem very exciting either way. Yeah,
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it seems, you know, it seems probable. I mean, you know,
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I think fans have come to and specially so you know,
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you know, give Triple H his props and you know
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he's done and accomplished a lot in the business. I
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just you know, it'd be I'd be cool, and they
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you know, they'd play it up on their pre taped
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videos and they're wonderful you know packages that they do.
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But I really don't think personally that they would would
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generate any real business going forward, especially into you know,
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the harder spring summer months where business tends to go down.
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I just don't think it would bring enough excitement. I
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think they need something much bigger, on a much broader scale,
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Although that may be a possibility, who knows.
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Yeah, Yeah, I think a lot of people are a
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little worried about this lineup. It'd be one thing, uh
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page if Hunter against Roman was supported with a musty
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Undertaker match and a must see Rock Lesner match. We're
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just not seeing that show up in the lineup yet.
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When we kind of imagine what the undercard will be, Uh,
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does Rock Lesner versus bray Wyatt, an Undertaker versus Bronz
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Strohman feel WrestleMania worthy?
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Absolutely not. I mean, you know, I been not like that.
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I'm not being a jerk, yeah, but uh, I you know,
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I think bray Wyatt's immensely talented. I have a ton
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of respect for the guy, you know, Brahm, and come on,
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are you are you kidding me? In an undertaker match?
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I mean, to me, this seems like we're just really
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grasping at straws, you know, really really grasping at straws.
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I might as hell at this point, at this point,
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bring another DCW comeback. Yeah, really, you know, I was
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just you know, as a matter of fact, it's funny
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to say that I was hand to God on my children.
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Bubba Ray Dudley, who dates Velvet Sky was. They live
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two blocks from my house. We just saw each other
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at the grocery store getting our because red round now
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it's dinner time, we're getting our food, and we were talking,
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and you know, we were saying, it's like things are
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looking thin right now creatively over there for the big
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the probably their biggest show of all time.
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You know, oh, absolutely absolutely, it's it's I think Vince
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McMahon's gonna have to come up with something more than
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what we're seeing right now as the likely lineup. And
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I don't know if that means the Rock Wrestling, or
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if that means Rody Rousey making an appearance, or if
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that means Steve Austin appearing.
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I'm not sure what.
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That is, but it needs all of it. It needs
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Steve Austin. You know, it would work, it would need
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and of course this would never happen, but it needs
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Steve Austin versus cmpunk. It needs Ronda Rousey versus Stephanie McMahon.
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It needs you know, Sean Michael's coming back. It needs
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it all. And that's the problem that you and I
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have talked about several times at nauseum about stars not
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being positioned yet. It takes time. Unfortunately. Now it's almost
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like the NFL. For those of the listeners that follow
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the NFL, it's like you have a coach who you know,
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takes you to uh A super Bowl, loses, you know,
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wins a bunch of games, and then gets fired the
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next year. You know, it's like they want it, they
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want it now times. You know, they're not giving these
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these kids A are not ready and B. It's it's
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just I just I'm not sure it's not the lack
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of talent. It's the lack of that that stubborn ideal
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that the you know, the smaller competitor, the you know,
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I like the way they're doing aj styles. But he's
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not gonna be pushed enough excuse me to make a
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difference for wrestling you and you know, and quite frankly,
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you know he'll only you know, there'll be a glass
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heealing with him as well. Just just because I know
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how they work and you know how they work, I
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just find that the business is in a real, real
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serious place. You know, they're still making their mind see
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that that that they don't care about Look, they care
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about putting out quality products. I know they pride themselves
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in that that's legit. I know that the McMahon's legitimately
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want to put out the best product they can. But
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they really have to start thinking long and hard about
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you know.
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Uh.
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The youth movement is is great and all, but I
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think a lot of the fans want to see legends
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to some capacity. And I don't mean just incredible, I
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mean just certain legends that could still go, that could
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still make going to be like like how Sting did it?
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Guys that haven't you know, I don't know what it is.
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I don't know They've they've put themselves into such a
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corner that I don't think they know how to.
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Get out of it.
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You know, there's just you could have NXT all you want.
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But by the time they get up to the main roster,
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everybody already knows who they are. There's no real surprise.
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Oh yeah, they're on row instead of n XT. It's
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not a real big deal. I mean, they need a
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guy completely out of nowhere who was a big deal
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or who is a big deal in another place in
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the world, who wrestles in another place in the world.
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And you know, unfortunately, until we have something of that nature,
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you know, I think Vince shot himself in the foot
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with the initial takeover of eighty two, eighty three, whatever
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it was. You know, I think that that essentially is
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going to start showing its face because we're really running
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out of legitimate stars. Because fans believe in in time,
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you know, they believe in Yeah I saw you ten
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years ago, I saw you fifteen years ago. You're legit.
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Who's this young kid Neville?
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I love him.
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I think he's talented, you know as hell, But you know,
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you know what I mean. They want They want guys
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who have been around the block. They want guys that
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have have have been there, and we're also missing everybody.
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To me, looks like looks like a clone six pack abs,
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the gimmicks, the shorts, the the hair, whatever little gimmicks
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they do, the flipping around. They need to have guys
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like Bam Bam Bigelow, the King Kong, Bundy's, the Yoko Zunas,
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guys with different body types because if you remember, of
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course you do back in the day, you know, these
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guys look like your uncle who got into a bar
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brawl at some shady biker bar, you know, but they
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look like killers, like the mad Dog Vishon's or whatever.
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I'm just saying. I'm just naming off names, but I
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think we need to stop trying to We're trying to
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Hollywood pro wrestling, and that's what Vince wants. Of course,
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he always wanted to make pro wrestle or sports entertainment.
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Excuse me, Hollywood and and you know, and to me,
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I still see that. You know, when you got guys
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like Sean and he's a good friend of mine. I'm
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not just saying it to be biased, but when you
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got guys like Sean Waltman on the sidelines, that's a
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problem because he's another guy. I'm not saying wrestling for
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whatever medical reasons or whatever, but there's just so many
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good guys. I've offered my services and got declined to
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help at the school that's your you know, I know
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where the bodies are buried in Stanford, I know at all.
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I know a lot of stuff.
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You know. That was an old saying.
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That's an old saying we used to have and we
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used to drive down the road. And uh, they need
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to bring those guys back into play, you know, and
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really get this, and not to not necessarily get in
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the ring, but to uh to get get something rolling.
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And and unfortunately we're at we're at a point where
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it's so fast paced that a feud that would last
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back in the day six months lasts an episode or two,
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you know, an episode of Raw, an episode of SmackDown,
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possibly you know, a third, and then you're done. If
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you're lucky, if you're lucky to get a pay per view,
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you need you need to really uh you know, you
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need to really you know, elongate these things because you're
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also burning through stars, you know, and uh, and eventually
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they're not going to be able to pump them out.
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Yeah.
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It's something Seampunk talked about in his interview with Cocbana
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about how it's difficult to build WrestleMania around returning stars
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and do so in a way that diminishes your full
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time stars and then expect to draw in the other
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months of the year. But the other problem is eventually
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those other stars aren't available for any number of reasons,
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and now you're left with a perception that Kevin Owens
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isn't a big star or pick your guy, that he's
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not a big enough start a headline WrestleMania. You can
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see that even ardent fans of the current roster who
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would like to see a different lineup aren't even It's
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hard to shuffle this lineup into a blockbuster show. And
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so that's something WWE is facing going into WrestleMania thirty two.
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And I don't think what they did on Monday with
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Miss TV and AJ Styles help matters.
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PG.
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I want to tease this if you saw it. Did
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you see the AJ Styles Miss TV segment on Monday?
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I did not, Okay, so we'll we'll talk about it
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in more general terms because MS basically pointed out every
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deficiency and weakness in AJ that Vince McMahon I use
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against AJO attempt to kind of create heats. So anyway,
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let's go to our first break and when we come back,
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got questions Let's go to our VP Express Lane first
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and go to Craig from Atlanta. Craig, you're the first caller.
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Thank you for your VP membership and thanks for calling today.
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Craig, are you there? Yep?
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Go ahead, Craig, Yeah, do you have these sorry bout?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, you're on, Craig, we can hear you. Just fine,
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go ahead with your question for Justin Credible.
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Hey guys, Hey Justin, Thanks for having me on. So
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my question is regarding I think it's kind of the
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foregone conclusion right now that we're going to have Triple
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H and Roman reigns at WrestleMania. But are we one
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hundred percent positive that Lesnar versus Triple H might not
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be the more marquee match, the more money match. And
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I don't know, I just I have this feeling deep
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down that we might end up seeing a Roman turn
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at Payback, and then see Roman in Dean Ambrose at
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Media then Triple H and Lester, which I think is
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a bigger drawing match in Dallas.
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Did you email me that earlier, Craig?
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I did not.
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Okay, someone else did then, so that's interesting. Someone else
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earlier today dropped me an email just asking that same question, PJ.
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Just incredible. Do you like that option better? If at
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fast Lane Roman turns on Dean to set up a
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former Shield member grudge match and you have brock Lesner
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as a babyface going against Triple H trying to take
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back the championship that he lost but never got pinned
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or submitted in losing.
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I would like that much way, much better than the
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current scenario. And do you know what any I mean,
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that's not a cliche, but I mean anything can have
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But who knows what they have on their sleeve. It
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could be a big swerve. I mean, hell yeah, that'd
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be a much bigger, you know, marquee matchup and would
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sell a lot more network subscriptions and whatever lift of
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pay per view that they still have. So yeah, absolutely,
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I think that would be very you know, very plausible, you.
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Know, definitely.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean we've seen Lesnar Hunter before that. That makes
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me a little hesitant. We haven't seen that Rains Hunter
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one on one match. I think Vince McMann tends to
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like to do first time marquee matchups, but if there
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was a big stipulation at stake that can work, I'm
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I'm still holding out Hope Craig that we see something
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evolving the Rock Steve Austin, Roda Ralsey, something like that.
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Dana White, by the way, said this week, and you
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Some great updates over there on a lot of things.
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Luke Crockold's next opponent determined, But the new story I'm
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referencing here is Dana White saying that Rona Ralsei's next
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fight will likely be in November, so giving her a
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lot of time off. That's a long stretch of time off,
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but it sounds like he is not gonna have her fight,
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doesn't see her fighting again until then, and that would
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certainly free her up after doing Saturday Night Live to
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be involved in WrestleMania, get a payday and maybe be
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opposite of Stephen McMahon in perhaps in Roman's corner. You know,
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if if they're really determined to get Roman reigns over,
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can you imagine Stephanie and Hunter's corner Ronda Ralsei in
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Roman's corner to maybe give a little bit extra oomph
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to that main event, justin if that's the plan, Does
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roder Ralsey's star power make that match then more special?
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Does? Does it become more acceptable?
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It does? But not much. Look bottom line, man, you know,
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the kid's good. He's no doubt about that, handsome body,
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liking Adonna's. He's got every tool that it takes. But
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he's just not there yet. Yeah, not for that level
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in my opinion. And it's just a humble opinion. I'm
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not saying I could do it. I'm not saying, oh,
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what do you think you can go up there and
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do that? No, I'm not saying I can't. But I'm
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just saying for me as a fan, maybe it's just
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he doesn't have the steam behind it. He could certainly
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pull off the work, the workload, you know, he obviously
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did it with Brock last year. But to me, it's
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just the steam behind him is just not creatively I'm
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talking about, it's just not there for me to get
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excited about.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, let's go now to our second caller, Ryan, Ryan,
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where are you calling from today?
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And England?
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All right?
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What have you got for us?
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Just a question for Justin and basically, was there bad
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hate when you came over from in the Invasion from
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WCW in the locker room and if you'd just done
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the question, yeah.
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Go ahead, Pete.
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When I came over from on the Invasion.
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Angle, yeah, so what did you get hate from the
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WWE guys that was already that Oh?
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No, no, no, no, I mean I was I was.
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No.
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No, I don't think anybody did. I think everybody at
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that point was you know, we just wanted to do business.
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I felt that at that point in the WWE, it
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was you know, it was an opportunity to make a
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lot of money and to you know, to just uh
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do something that's never been done before. Unfortunately, you know,
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they threw out a you know, an a goal for
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the Ages, probably one of the biggest pro wrestling angles
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of all time, and they turned it into shit. Frankly,
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excuse my language, and because really, if you think about it,
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it could have been, you know, one of the biggest
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deals in sports entertainment pro wrestling history. They should have
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kept the entity separately, and it should just should just
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you know, but it had to become about the mcmands,
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and that's usually how it is, you know, and it's
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that that that thing that will always prevent them from
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from reaching the pinnacle. You know, look at look they
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have enough money. So now it's just about them. You know,
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if they were if it was back in the old
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days where they really needed to make ultimate money and
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get the most for their you know, for what they're
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putting out there, they would have done the right thing
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for business. They always say what they always say, what's
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best for business. That was not best for business, that
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was best for them, and you know, it's just best
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for their egos. I thought there was a horrible.
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Move just on what you're going on there.
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Do you actually you know, like we're saying that dispatching
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thing might about.
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The the authority?
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People say, no, when's it going to end? In fact,
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is it here to stay? It's going to be someone
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that's always going to be there? Is there? Is it
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going to be Triple H? And it's definitely for now.
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Until when it's for that, I can't see. It doesn't
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seem like it's Starline anymore. It just seems like it's
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here to stay.
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Understand.
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I hear you, and I do understand, And it seems
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like it's not going anywhere anytime soon, you know. Uh,
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I think and it's the same.
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I think that the demands think protecting their image and
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projecting themselves as the stars is best for business. I
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think they rationalize it because it means that no matter
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what else happens to injuries or talent departing or anything,
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they ultimately are the stars of the show, and if
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they endorse somebody or just appear on camera, it's a
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big deal. I mean, I think they've rationalized to themselves
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that that's that's what's best for business. But I think
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the most money comes from the McMahon's promoting picking somebody
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and promoting them the way that they promote themselves. And
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I don't even think they've done that good of a
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job with Roman Reigns because we don't even know that
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much about Roman Reigns.
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I mean, he's no I know, yeah, he's he's.
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An ex he's an I know, I know. I know
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that he's a Samoan yep, you know, and he has
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heritage and he's a tough guy and you know, and
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he's a good fighter. And that's it, I know.
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I mean, what does he stand for?
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Uh?
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You know, he doesn't even seem to care that much
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about losing championships, or he hasn't really defined like peage.
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When you and I we're growing up watching wrestling, the
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champion was always the champion was always somebody who talked
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about how important the championship was to them.
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00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:12.440
And I just don't hear that enough these days.
483
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:16.240
Yes, no, you don't. It was all about the title. Yeah,
484
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:18.319
it was all about the title. It was all we
485
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:22.279
talked about a million times. It was all about wins, losses.
486
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:24.079
You know what you got.
487
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:27.599
You know, no pun intended. You know, you want a
488
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:29.680
piece of me. You know, you got to climb the
489
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:32.519
ranks and then you got to beat me for that title,
490
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:36.240
because that title is the most precious thing in professional wrestling.
491
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.720
It's like the super Bowl, It's like the World Series,
492
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.119
It's like the NBA Championship, you know what I mean.
493
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:44.480
It's the big deal, you know.
494
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:47.400
I think of the way that Nick Bockwinkle and the
495
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.440
a W a champion for a long time, late seventies
496
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.559
into the eighties, and and Rick Flair when he would
497
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:57.119
hand the NWA title over to the referee or Nick Wood,
498
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.400
there was it was like handing up newborn maybe to
499
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:02.400
the nurse after you got to hold your baby for
500
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:06.319
the first time, and I get I don't like when
501
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:10.240
a champion treats the title like it's a duffel bag
502
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:11.359
at the gym, in.
503
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:15.319
The locker room. And if you watch, yeah, go ahead.
504
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:16.960
If you go, if you go, but just so I
505
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:20.440
don't forget. If you go back and watch my old
506
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:24.000
e c W matches when I was world champion, I
507
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:26.480
would I would kiss the belt over and hand it
508
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:27.240
to the referee.
509
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.559
Yes, you know it's a little thing that it makes
510
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:34.880
a big difference. Yeah, Yeah, I've got Ryan, you're still
511
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:35.759
with us? Any follow up?
512
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.400
Yeah, I've got another couple of questions, just in basically
513
00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:45.480
in this day and age now in the wrestlers they're
514
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:49.400
in the main roster or even the next t who
515
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.160
if you could have that one more fight with in
516
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:54.440
the WWE, who would it be with the main roster
517
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.759
now or and it's TAF you like them?
518
00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:59.359
Good question, Yeah, Peto, who do you imagine today if
519
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:01.319
you got yourself, I've been tip top shape for a
520
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.799
comeback match and you just thought I'm ready to keep
521
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.960
up with some young guy or a veteran even who's
522
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.599
the wrestler on the roster now that you haven't.
523
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:13.400
Worked with that, you'd like to, Oh, I know, I
524
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:16.880
could if you gave me six months, I could work
525
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:20.079
with Finn Baylor. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
526
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:21.559
I mean I could still go.
527
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:26.200
You know, half the reason I retired was the state
528
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.960
of the independent scene.
529
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:29.720
I was.
530
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.200
I'm forty two years old. I'm obviously at the back
531
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:38.799
end of my wrestling career, but I'm physically very healthy.
532
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.559
I'm not in shape. I'm then in wrestling shape, of course,
533
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.920
but I was just very discouraged and it just figured,
534
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:49.960
you know, if I keep un wrestling, I'm just going
535
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:53.279
to keep going on and on, and then you know,
536
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:55.759
ten years later, I'll be fifty two and still doing
537
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.119
the same thing. So I wanted to kind of move
538
00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:02.000
on in life, to have a backup in life, so
539
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:04.839
I could make a living for my family. It was
540
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:06.039
more of that decision.
541
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:06.759
It's not that I.
542
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:10.880
Wanted to leave wrestling. It's just there were you know,
543
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.759
look in full disclosure, and I don't care if she
544
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:17.519
gets mad at me. I reached out to Dixie Carter.
545
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:23.200
She you know, she called me back. We exchanged you know,
546
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:26.799
text and whatnot, and I asked her for any kind
547
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:31.519
of opportunity both behind the scenes and in any way
548
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:35.200
and helping train the boys or just being some kind
549
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:38.480
of you know, somebody because they have a lot of
550
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.400
proms there, they have no idea what they're doing. And
551
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:44.240
the response I got from her was talk to Big
552
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:47.880
John and I'm like, first of all, who the hell
553
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:49.359
I mean? I know who he is, but I'm like,
554
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.240
who the hell is Big John probably has no idea
555
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:55.160
who I am. I'm sure he didn't watch a CW
556
00:30:55.880 --> 00:31:00.279
And you know who I am. You're the boss. Don't
557
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.720
give me that bullshit about you know that kind of
558
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:08.440
it really upset me, you know, it really turned me
559
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:14.839
off about there. They're also lack of of wanting to
560
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.319
go after it for real.
561
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.920
Well, my hunt, my hunch two and TNA is there's
562
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.319
probably people who are in the position that you would
563
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.359
probably have who probably would you know, just the way
564
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:29.160
it works, are probably working against against you and and
565
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:32.279
saying things to Dixie, and that would probably, uh, that
566
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:35.559
would probably discourage Dixie from from hiring you Ryan anything
567
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:36.400
else for us.
568
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.640
Yeah, basically justin if you would have had a chance
569
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:47.079
at like US title or intercontinental title sort of opportunity,
570
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:47.960
what would.
571
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:48.839
You have brought to the table.
572
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.759
If you if you had given that like opportunity to
573
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:53.720
do that, and that's my final question.
574
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:59.480
Thanks, If I had that opportunity, yeah, I would have
575
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:04.319
just what I always did, even when I was Gabe Sepolski,
576
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:09.799
who runs a lot of you know, independent wrestling, big
577
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:13.839
time independent wrestling promotions in the States, he he used
578
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:18.000
to work ringside, you know, taping a lot of the
579
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:21.880
RF video fan cam stuff, and he went on record
580
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.759
at saying for the stretch that I had, I don't
581
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:28.079
know if it was five months or six months, whatever
582
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:33.920
it was, whether it was one one hundred fans or
583
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.640
five thousand fans at a house show, you put on
584
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:42.759
the best match of the night. Your effort was impeccable,
585
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.319
You worked as hard as you could. Because I took
586
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.960
that spot very seriously, and I believe that spot was
587
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:53.680
always meant for the working wrestler, the hard you know,
588
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:56.720
the the guys that you know, the icy title back
589
00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:00.200
then was the working man's title, and that's what I
590
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:00.960
would have done.
591
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:01.240
You know.
592
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:04.559
I took it very seriously, you know, So that's that's
593
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what it would have.
594
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.720
Been, like, Yeah, all right, we're going to take another
595
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.039
break and want to come back more phone calls, so
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00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:12.039
if you're on hold, stay on hold. If you want
597
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:13.200
to get in line on the phone banks, you can
598
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do so six four six, seven to one nine eight
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to phone calls with no further delay, and uh, we
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appreciate our callers so far. Let's go next to Eric
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code seven one eight seven one eight. Please state to
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name and where you're calling from.
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Mike Brooklyn, how you guys going?
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Hey, Way, Hey, Justin, Hey, Hey, Mike, thanks for calling.
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What have you got for p Jamie?
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For me? Very very interesting, you know, all discussions today.
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First of all, you know, I just want to ask,
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you know, get your off perspective, what will be top
628
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.119
you know, four matches and get off perspective of wrestling
629
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:03.960
mainly as well being at right there.
630
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:06.800
Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a good topic, uh, Peach.
631
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.199
When we look at the available talent, obviously with the
632
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injuries to John Cena, Cizarro, seth Rawlins, it's at Daniel Bryan,
633
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:16.679
it's Randy Orton.
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I mean, the list goes on and on.
635
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:20.000
They have fewer people to work with, but I think
636
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they could have, with the time that they've had to prepare,
637
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.280
have done a better job, including aj Styles the last
638
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:28.880
week and a half. He had great momentum, I think
639
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:30.840
at the Rumble, with the crowd response he got, and
640
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:33.679
then MZ just tore him apart on Rawn Monday. I
641
00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:37.360
would like to see aj Styles and Kevin Owens as
642
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:42.320
two wrestlers in particular positioned better going into WrestleMania and
643
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:44.440
perhaps in one of those top three four matches. But
644
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.400
do you have some specific matches in mind given the
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talent realistically available events.
646
00:35:52.679 --> 00:36:00.679
Wow, that's I mean, that's really really hard. Damn.
647
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:02.639
I like, well, I'll throw a couple.
648
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:04.000
I'll throw a couple at you, and then you can
649
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:05.400
augment it as you like.
650
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:06.679
But I.
651
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:12.639
Would like to see heel Well, I mean this is
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changing a lot, but I'd like to see Roman Reigns
653
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:20.039
go heel and take on uh Undertaker. I think that's
654
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:22.679
a novel matchup. I think he gets Undertaker refreshmentpon it,
655
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and I think it elevates Roman Reigns to have a
656
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:27.320
WrestleMania moment with Undertaker, something he might never have another
657
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:30.360
chance at. So have Roman rerangs with Heel at fast Lane,
658
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:32.880
and then you have Dean Ambrose win at fast Lane.
659
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:35.639
So you have Dean Ambrose take on Triple h because
660
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by doing that, you're elevating Dean Ambrose and giving him
661
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:41.679
a Wrestlatia moment that he would otherwise have. And then
662
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:45.159
for Brock Lesner, I like Kevin Owens as an opponent.
663
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.119
For Brock as a heel, I think Paul Hayman and
664
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:52.039
Kevin Owens going at it on the microphone is money.
665
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.800
So those are some matchups I like. And then I.
666
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:58.480
Would really try to find a meaningful match for AJ
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Styles again, an established name who's healthy on the w
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00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:06.840
w B roster and create create something special air Uh So, Peach,
669
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how about that?
670
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I agree with what you're saying. I just I just
671
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:16.800
don't see anybody. God, who do you put against a Style?
672
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.159
I'd go bray Wyatt. I think bray Wyatt.
673
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:20.679
Works, right.
674
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:25.400
Do you think they would that would would that necessarily
675
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:27.519
pull out the best in a J.
676
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.760
I think I think bras a good enough I mean,
677
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I know it. Yeah. But well, what I'm what I.
678
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.280
Don't want them to do with AJ is what TNA
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does with the X division, which is, hey all you
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00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:42.679
Ardent fans, you indie fans, We're gonna give you a
681
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.960
J Styles against Neville, and they're gonna do a bunch
682
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:47.920
of spots and the announcers are gonna marvel and you're
683
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:49.960
gonna chant this is awesome, and then we're gonna move
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00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:50.840
on to the moneymakers.
685
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I don't want that.
686
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I want a j to be in there and treated
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as a guy who gets to face a deceptively large
688
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Bray Wyatt and bring out the best in Bray and
689
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:04.519
have Brady challenged to face somebody different. So that's my
690
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:09.239
top four rains. Undertaker, Ambrose, Triple h Lesnar, Kevin Owens,
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and AJ against Bray.
692
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I would like to.
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Bring I would like if they do, and I'd like
694
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to see the whole uh the Bullet Club come out
695
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even though a lot of fans wouldn't know them, and
696
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.360
go up against the Wiats. Yeah, in the feud here,
697
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:28.760
well you know what I mean.
698
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:33.760
You know, if we incorporate NXT guys or now Shinskate
699
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:36.760
Nakamura into the mix, you got some other options too,
700
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:40.159
because I like I like Shinskate Nakamura against Brock Lesner
701
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:42.519
or against Undertaker as a way to just shoot him
702
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:44.639
to the top and say this guy is it's a
703
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big star in Japan. He doesn't have to play games
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00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.039
for eighteen months or four months in order to earn
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00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.679
his way. He steps in and WWE says, this guy
706
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is one of the biggest stars to ever wrestle in
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Japan and he's in his prime and he came here
708
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:00.840
and he is making a statement. He he wants a
709
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:04.280
top match and you know the just tell that story.
710
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.840
We watched that growing up, Peach. The story that you
711
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.400
could tell about a talent coming in from another country.
712
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:12.679
You could create this story. Whether it was me with
713
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:16.920
Billy Robinson and a w A as the UH Champion
714
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:20.079
of Great Britain, or if you had Auto Vance coming
715
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:24.000
in from Germany or Jumble Shuda coming in from Japan.
716
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:28.079
You'd create the story and the fans today would sort
717
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:30.800
of quote no better, but it doesn't matter. Just give
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00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.239
us a story to believe in while we watched the
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show and shoot.
720
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:42.000
The phantom pat patterson icy title whim. Yeah you know
721
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what I mean. Really you can do whatever you want.
722
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:45.920
Yeah, you know.
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It's because I think I think the problem is is
724
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that we are we are just in such a corporate,
725
00:39:56.800 --> 00:40:03.239
uh political, you know, PC correct world that I think
726
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:06.079
it's going to just be I think ww we quite
727
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:09.480
Frankly is happy with the status quo I really do,
728
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:10.360
I really.
729
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:14.960
Do is the right way and this is what gets
730
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:16.360
spit out of that right way.
731
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:22.760
And until there's someone else and something else and yeah,
732
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:27.719
ever coming out I'm wrong that will compete with that,
733
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:32.199
you know, I just don't, you know, unless there's uh
734
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:36.320
Ted Burner type. But even then.
735
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:39.920
Guides. You know.
736
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:44.639
The thing that that helped back then was there were
737
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:50.639
these national The magazines were huge. The wrestling magazines were
738
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:54.599
a huge help in developing these stars because even if
739
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.440
you didn't know them, you saw them on your local
740
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.400
newsstands and you were like, Wow, who are these guys?
741
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.239
And when you finally got to see them in your town,
742
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:06.039
you kind of had a little bit of an idea
743
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.800
of while this guy is crazy and they make up,
744
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:13.280
you know, they'd read all these interesting stories. And I
745
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:17.280
just think we have to the model of professional wrestling
746
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:22.119
has to change. I think the WWE network has hurt
747
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.679
in a lot of ways because of the content. There's
748
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.320
just so much content, so much wrestling, and quite frankly,
749
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:35.119
it's like how much wrestling can you digest after three
750
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.920
hours of a live raw, two hours of a SmackDown,
751
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:41.840
and what other with you know, all the other garbage
752
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:42.559
you put out there.
753
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.239
You know, well, part of a tube pages is the mystique,
754
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:48.519
you know where you grew up, where I grew up
755
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:50.159
there when a wrestler came in. And I think, you know,
756
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.280
Triple Ah saw this too, growing up a fan, something
757
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:55.599
Stephan McMahon never experienced because she grew up in the business.
758
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:57.920
And I think that's almost as that is a handicap.
759
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:01.880
But Hunter grew up a fan too, and that excitement
760
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:04.000
over somebody you read about in the magazines coming into
761
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:08.199
your territory was really exciting, you know, like Rick Flair.
762
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:08.480
For me.
763
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:13.519
ESPN was out out here at my home office for
764
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:16.119
the tourch yesterday for a documentary they're doing on Ric Flair,
765
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:18.320
and they interviewed me and they asked, you know, well,
766
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:19.880
you know, when did you see Ric Flair Wressell and
767
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:21.719
you know, and I was like, well, I grew up
768
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:24.760
in the a WA territory. I read about Rick Flair
769
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:27.280
and believed he was a huge star before I ever
770
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:30.400
saw him on television or in person. But when he
771
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:34.519
came here in the kind of mid nineteen eighties, when
772
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.519
Jim Crocker Promotion started touring, that's when I got to
773
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.280
see him up close and in person, but I already
774
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:41.639
believed he was a star based on the reputation. I
775
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:43.719
think WWE and I think Hunter would know how to
776
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:48.400
do this. You can create this mystique around the pending
777
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:52.639
arrival of Shinsky Nakamura and you know, show photograph show
778
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.519
him in Japan being treated like a celebrity, and clippings
779
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:58.400
of him in magazines and say, the biggest international star
780
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:01.559
to ever signed with WWE is coming and he has
781
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:04.360
a big challenge and announcement. And I think you can
782
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.320
instantly insert him in a match against Brock Lesner or
783
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.000
Undertaker and turn him into a star. And I think,
784
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:12.480
and I'll throw to you after this, WrestleMania thirty two
785
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.239
isn't just about presenting a good lineup of established stars
786
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:17.000
the rest. And this goes back to what you said
787
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:21.519
earlier that it's become a showcase, that WrestleMania has become
788
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.760
more of a spectacle. I think you can use WrestleMania,
789
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:26.840
and I think seem Punk kind of made this argument too,
790
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:30.039
to create a star or elevate somebody, Because if you're
791
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:33.480
in a big match at WrestleMania and you are qualified,
792
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:35.280
he can't just put anyone in that spot. But if
793
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:38.239
you're putting a major spot at WrestleMania, just that atmosphere
794
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:39.440
turns you into.
795
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:39.760
A big star.
796
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:42.679
So that's where I kind of like Nakhamer doing that.
797
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:44.239
Now we know Nakamur is gonna be on the NXT
798
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:47.679
Takeover special the night before, but still or you know,
799
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:50.719
that weekend, but still there's an opportunity to do something
800
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:52.559
like that, like you said with Bullet Club two.
801
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:56.679
No, I mean, they'll always get theirs, They'll always have
802
00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:01.239
their fair share of of you know, great fans and
803
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:06.440
passionate fans, but I think now they're also you know,
804
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.719
the audiences as for a long time now, for years
805
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:15.320
and years, they've shifted towards kids again, and you know,
806
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:19.840
I think there's a real there, there's a real need
807
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:23.960
for more serious I would almost like to see you
808
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:28.960
know ours one, you know, maybe our one and two
809
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:34.920
before younger viewers like you know, the TVPG and then
810
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:38.079
the last hour before a more mature audience.
811
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:40.400
Maybe even switching out screws to really accentuate that it's
812
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:41.159
a different.
813
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:44.360
You know, I don't know. I mean, I just think
814
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.960
there are adult fans still want to like the business,
815
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:50.880
but it's it's it's become corny again.
816
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:52.639
You know.
817
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:54.920
I talked to I talked to a lot of people, man,
818
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:58.400
and it's like, yeah, man, but that that stuff's corny.
819
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:01.119
You know, I liked it back in the day, you know,
820
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:03.920
I always I mean, I get it because of me,
821
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.840
because they're talking to me. But I love that ECW stuff.
822
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.320
I love that hardcore stuff, even that w you know,
823
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:14.360
the w CW stuff that make Bloley coming off the
824
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:17.960
cage and you know they used to you know, undertake
825
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:21.079
or doing all that crazy stuff, and you know from
826
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:25.800
Steve Austin with the beer trucks, and you know, I
827
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:28.920
just think they need something. I don't know. Maybe I
828
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:33.239
don't know, I do There's it's just so sugarcoated now
829
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:36.599
it's hard to it's really hard to watch. I have
830
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:41.480
a hard time watching people. Quite honestly. I I canceled
831
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:45.239
my subscription to the network because I just I wasn't.
832
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:46.639
I wasn't getting my usage.
833
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:49.480
Yeah, you know, I really wasn't.
834
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.679
I wonder how many people are disgruntled but stick with
835
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:56.280
it because they want to watch NXT and see those
836
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:59.679
takeover specials. Because I think for you know, twenty dollars
837
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.840
every two months. Those NXT species are are are worth
838
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:03.599
the price.
839
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:05.639
They're worth the price.
840
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:08.360
Yeah, but I'm I am older.
841
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:11.800
I'm just starting to cure less. Yeah yeah, you know,
842
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:14.840
I really am. It's just and that's sad for me
843
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:18.159
because this is always my passion. But I'm just starting
844
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:21.199
to cure less and it's hard to care, you know.
845
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:25.880
But if you gave me something exciting, the heck gotta
846
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:29.079
be right back in. So you know, it's just it's
847
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:31.440
it's harder and harder for me to enjoy.
848
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:36.039
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used to, but I know you're still got your videos
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00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:28.239
Just follow me on Twitter at PJ Poloco. I'm also
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872
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wrestling that I learned from many of the superstars we've
873
00:47:58.199 --> 00:47:59.119
spoken about today.
874
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:00.639
So the good stuff.
875
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:02.639
I think you're one of your most viewed videos on
876
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:06.360
your YouTube channel is locker room etiquette, so check out.
877
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:11.239
Yeah, well that's the that's you know, young kids today.
878
00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:13.679
Sometimes you know, I'll walk by to say hi and
879
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:20.119
they'll ignore me, you know, and uh yeah, and that'll
880
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:22.679
tell you something. And I don't mind, because I'm not
881
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:24.880
you know, I'm a lover, not a fighter, and I'm
882
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:27.920
getting too old with that stuff. But you know, back
883
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:30.760
in the day, you'd get a stiff smack in the face. Yeah,
884
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:34.440
you know, but you know you do that these days
885
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:35.280
you get a lawsuit.
886
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:39.400
So yeah, you know, yeah, I know you got to know,
887
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:41.880
like know the history of the business you're getting in.
888
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:47.280
Yeah, well, what awesome Kong did to Rebby Sky, you know,
889
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:49.599
and she got sent home from the TNA tour.
890
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:50.480
Yeah.
891
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:55.519
Well, believe me, one time, a deceased friend of mine
892
00:48:56.280 --> 00:49:00.760
who was used to be a British bulldog, you know,
893
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:05.599
I went to the bathroom and one of Tammy Sitch's
894
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:10.360
lunchables to take home to the hotel. So and we
895
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:14.519
didn't go crying back then. So just the ribs were worse,
896
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:19.440
not saying they were justified, just way worse than you know. So,
897
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:22.960
you know, kids need to realize it's just part of
898
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:25.239
the culture. And you know, you need to earn your respect.
899
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:25.480
Man.
900
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:28.639
It's a hard business. Yeah, And you know what, sometimes
901
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:32.199
these kids it's too easy for these kids, too easy,
902
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:34.800
because you know what, I have so much respect for everyone.
903
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:38.119
I still to this day walked into any indie locker
904
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:41.119
room and I'll walk around the room as tired as
905
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:43.920
I am from the drive, and I shake every single
906
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:48.920
person's band, including the referees, you know, yeah, which you know,
907
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.760
I wish that honor would still stay with the business.
908
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:53.400
You know.
909
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.039
Well, let's take another email question here. We're down to
910
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:00.039
our final five minutes or so, so if anybody he
911
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.239
wants to give us a call real quick, we might
912
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.480
get to more than we might get.
913
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:04.719
To your call.
914
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:08.159
So six verse six seven eight. Got an email question
915
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:10.880
here from Joseph from Boston. He says, thanks for all
916
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:12.440
the great work that you and the Torch staff are
917
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:16.079
doing always and especially here in many a season. Forgive
918
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:17.960
me if you've already addressed this, as I'm unable to
919
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:21.639
listen live. But my question is actually a suggestion to
920
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:25.440
pose a question to PJ. What does PJ think about
921
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:29.039
the recent spat of injuries among top WWB wrestlers and
922
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:31.880
what sort of an effect CrossFit in the overall training
923
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:37.440
regiment may have in potentially causing injuries PG the crossfits
924
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:41.199
being blamed for or or it's being questioned as maybe
925
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:44.400
setting wrestlers up to be more vulnerable to injury. Just
926
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.039
in general, what do you think of the issues with
927
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:49.079
you know, staff blown out his knee on the Europe tour.
928
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.360
John Cena with the shoulder injury, Randy Orton with a
929
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:54.239
chronic shoulder injury, Cizarrow.
930
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:55.239
It's just on and on.
931
00:50:57.159 --> 00:50:59.559
It's amazing. And I think I've mentioned this on a
932
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:04.440
show for agents.
933
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:06.079
You know, we always.
934
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:09.480
Worked a strong style up there. You know, house shows
935
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:13.000
were pretty. You know, we loosened up and we you know,
936
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:17.000
we had a good time. But you know, TV is TV.
937
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:19.920
You got to make it look good. And I understand that.
938
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.480
But in these days, man, I think a lot of
939
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:26.000
the well they call them producers now, they used to
940
00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:28.760
call them agents. They go out there and they really
941
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:32.920
tell these kids too, you know, to lay it in there.
942
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:37.039
And these kids, just a lot of them, I'm silliar.
943
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:39.840
They just don't know how to work, I mean, to
944
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:43.519
really work. I'm proud to say that I've never heard
945
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:46.239
anybody in my twenty three year career in the business.
946
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:48.519
I mean I might have given them a little stiff,
947
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:52.079
you know, a stiff potato to that, but I've never
948
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:57.039
heard someone, you know, seriously. And that was the craft
949
00:51:58.039 --> 00:51:58.719
that's taught me.
950
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:01.320
You know, you you know how to work.
951
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:03.320
You know it's okay, you know they're safe spot you
952
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:07.920
could hit hard. I think kids are reckless. I watched
953
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:13.199
Raw and I cringe. I think there is just a
954
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:18.519
lack of understanding. But of course, you know, w W
955
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:24.079
doesn't mine because it only looks more real. I've never
956
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:26.599
seen so many back in the day, man, I never
957
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.280
saw people get staples in their heads. And I was
958
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:32.719
there for a very long time, from ninety four to
959
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.039
ninety seven. I never saw one person get a staple
960
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.000
in their head. Maybe a stitch or two, but it
961
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:41.079
wasn't you know, it wasn't like that. And in two
962
00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:43.480
thousand and two, in two thousand and one to two
963
00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:46.239
thousand and three, the same thing. You know, I think
964
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:51.079
kids are less experienced, so they're just more you know.
965
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:56.800
I remember that I wrestled Dave Batista. I was his
966
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:01.119
new match on Raw, and Dave as a sweetheart. I
967
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:04.920
know Dave very well, and we worked around the loop
968
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:08.159
to get him ready, you know, and he's a very
969
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:15.039
light worker, actually, Dave is. And you know Arn Anderson,
970
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:17.199
who was also well. I consider him a friend. I
971
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:19.599
don't know what he thinks to me, but I n
972
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:25.440
and I always we're very friendly. And you know, to
973
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:28.840
an impressional kid, Arne says, you know, when you hit
974
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:33.639
him with that clothesline, rip his f and head off. Now,
975
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:35.559
if you're going to a young kid who doesn't know
976
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:38.239
any better and has less experience, what are you going
977
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:42.159
to do, You're gonna rip his FN head off, right, Yeah,
978
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:46.000
And I think that is the problem, as I think
979
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:48.800
there's a lot of misguided guys out there that don't
980
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:52.519
know what they're doing. They think stiffer is better. I
981
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:54.679
was Sean, and Sean and I and raise her and
982
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:57.039
I used to always talk about it. We used to
983
00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.719
hate it when it hurt like it looked like crap,
984
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.880
it hurt like hell. Because if it hurts like, if
985
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:05.119
it hurts like hell, I can't sell it for you.
986
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.679
I'm just gonna crumble down into the fetal position. But
987
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:10.320
if you hit me, if you hit me right, I'm
988
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:13.400
going to sell it like a million bucks. And I
989
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:16.880
think that's a huge problem in the business, and that's
990
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:19.280
why there are so many injuries and so many people
991
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.920
out of action. You know, it's it's it's I think
992
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:25.840
it's like the most we've had injuries in a long time.
993
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:29.559
It's because the things like that. Yeah, you know, guys,
994
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:34.400
guys don't know how to work the right way.
995
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:37.119
Do you think you can over exercise, over exert yourself
996
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:41.840
or overtrain your muscles with certain weightlifting techniques that makes
997
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:47.719
you more susceptible to injury in the ring. No, yeah,
998
00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:51.599
so that's so yeah, because that's the conversation is like,
999
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:55.559
you know, this overdoing it on CrossFit makes people more
1000
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:58.000
vulnerable to muscle tires when they're in the ring.
1001
00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:00.159
And I don't know enough you.
1002
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:06.159
Know that might be the case. I mean muscle pears,
1003
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:09.480
but I mean I'm talking about like you know, shots
1004
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:13.599
to the head and you know, concussions and stuff. I mean,
1005
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:16.280
I don't know. Man, back then, we used to barely
1006
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:19.239
I have to this is I mean, we're going back
1007
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:23.280
in the old days. But me and kid he still literally,
1008
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:25.719
I mean we'd barely do a stretch. We d had
1009
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:31.039
stairs chairs in the gorilla position. Everybody else is doing
1010
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:34.519
push ups warming up. You know, everybody's like, aren't you
1011
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:37.360
warming up? Believe me, We'll leave it all out there,
1012
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:42.039
you know, and our music it we went. You know,
1013
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:46.320
sometimes it's overdoing it. It's it's over I remember this,
1014
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:50.800
stuffs will work. You know, know your limitations And that's
1015
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.679
the thing is I always knew my limitations. If I
1016
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:56.760
wasn't comfortable with something, I'd say it. And these guys
1017
00:55:56.800 --> 00:56:01.119
are just everybody's so job scared that they're just trying
1018
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:06.039
to do whatever they're told to do. And uh, you know,
1019
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:09.880
they're the only game in town, and it's it's you know,
1020
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:13.280
these kids have never been anywhere. This is the only
1021
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:15.880
thing they know. So I don't blame them.
1022
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:16.360
You know.
1023
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:19.360
I was lucky enough to catch the back end of
1024
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:23.760
the territory days. I wrestled for Lawler's territory and you know,
1025
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:26.280
a couple of their small territories before I went to
1026
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:29.000
w W E and E c W and back to
1027
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:33.000
w W E and so forth, you know, And I
1028
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:35.760
think that's that's that's it. You know, guys just aren't
1029
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.719
getting the pro and that's why, you know, I think
1030
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:42.719
a guy like myself and a guy like Waltman could
1031
00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:47.039
help over there, you know. And just from a council standpoint,
1032
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:50.679
a consultant standpoint, I think they're really missing the boat
1033
00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:53.239
with a lot of great legends out there that could
1034
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:56.360
really help. I really do.
1035
00:56:57.360 --> 00:56:58.639
Pege this hour flew by.
1036
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:02.920
Thank you so much again for your insights and uh,
1037
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:07.280
just good conversation about WrestleMania. And the lineup, and we
1038
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:08.840
thank for colors too. It's always good to have.
1039
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.719
You on the program. Always a pleasure waiting. Thank you
1040
00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:12.599
so much for having me.
1041
00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:13.519
I really appreciate it.
1042
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:14.719
Guys, thank you for listening.
1043
00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:17.519
We'll talk to you hopefully in another month or two
1044
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:19.360
as Wrestlming approaches are right afterwards.
1045
00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:21.800
Absolutely, we thank you sir.
1046
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:24.559
Thanks Peach. That's just incredible. You can look him up
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01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:14.119
Hello you people Today Wednesday, That Boy third twenty sixteen.
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01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:17.159
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01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:57.199
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you for being part of the program today. Let's get
1104
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:01.000
right into it.
1105
01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:05.119
As what it's time to do.
1106
01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:07.559
So it really makes me happy.
1107
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:11.679
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the program. A former
1108
01:01:11.960 --> 01:01:16.760
WWE World Tag Team Champion, the one, the only, Trevor Murdach.
1109
01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:19.079
Welcome back to the show.
1110
01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:23.440
Trevor, Hi, thanks you for grabbing me again, no.
1111
01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:26.079
Problem, Glad to have you here. People have been waiting
1112
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:28.920
for you. You know, there's a lot to talk about
1113
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:31.760
in the currency and professional wrestling, but we do want
1114
01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:32.920
to talk about what you're doing.
1115
01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:33.440
Uh.
1116
01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:36.719
You know, after after things went south in the wrestling
1117
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:38.920
business about fifteen years ago, you know, people like me
1118
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:42.440
were wondering whether this business would would you know, go
1119
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.880
the way of Demolition Derby or Roller Derby or the
1120
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:49.519
Harlem Globe Trotters. But that's not the case. And and
1121
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.320
one of the reasons why is is smaller groups than
1122
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:55.599
wrestling schools like yours. Uh, the Kansas City Pro Wrestling
1123
01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:58.960
Training Center opens its doors this month. Trevor Murdoch and
1124
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:02.679
Kansas City NAD Derek McQuinn are bringing pro wrestling training
1125
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:04.679
back to Kansas City. Both do both of you trained
1126
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:08.760
by the legendary Harley Race. Let's see, there's yeah, there's
1127
01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:13.039
a personalized fitness program, there's a world class there are
1128
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:18.119
world class trainers, and you're working with Chris Guff of
1129
01:02:18.199 --> 01:02:22.039
the Metro Pro Wrestling. Why don't you do? I mean,
1130
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:25.239
first of all, do you feel that this is twenty
1131
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:28.119
sixteen is the right time to be getting into the uh,
1132
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:30.159
getting into the business and starting a wrestling school.
1133
01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:34.840
Well, I mean anything in wrestling is always a little, uh,
1134
01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:38.840
a little sketchy, sometimes a little scary. But I mean
1135
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:42.079
wrestling's hot right now. In my opinion. There's a lot
1136
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:43.840
of people out there, a lot of athletes that are
1137
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:47.280
switching to pro wrestling, and Kansas City is a great
1138
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:49.840
place to do it. It's you know, it's it's a
1139
01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:54.000
step dealing tradition, especially with Memorial Hall. There's a lot
1140
01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:57.920
of wrestling fans there. Metro Pro draws and the average
1141
01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:00.599
between four and five hundred every time they run shows.
1142
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:02.800
So yeah, I think it's a great time to be
1143
01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:03.519
honest with.
1144
01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:07.679
You, Okay. So, I mean the part of the idea
1145
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:10.360
is that the trainees when they graduate, there'll be you know,
1146
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:12.800
two local groups that would be looking, you know, maybe
1147
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:16.440
where they can maybe you know, get their start.
1148
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:20.079
The part that's the whole idea is is to give
1149
01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:23.119
guys a place to come to learn how to learn
1150
01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:25.960
how to wrestle right, and not only that, but also
1151
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.159
have a gym with a trainer that can help them
1152
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:31.239
get right in the gym, eat health. He will put
1153
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:34.239
them on a nutrition plan. They'll actually be working out
1154
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:36.679
with a certified trainer, somebody who knows what to do
1155
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:39.679
in the gym, and all that comes together when you're
1156
01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:41.679
a part of the school.
1157
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.760
Okay. You know, like I said, I was worried that
1158
01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:46.599
you know, people would not be around who would be,
1159
01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:49.079
you know, teaching other people how to carry on the
1160
01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:52.760
traditions of professional wrestling. What do you think the most
1161
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:55.320
important thing that you can teach these kids as.
1162
01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:57.239
Well?
1163
01:03:57.320 --> 01:04:02.400
It's it's you know, it's hard and dedication and to
1164
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:06.000
actually learn how to wrestle. There are so many guys
1165
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:09.000
out there that was trained by Jimmy John, who was
1166
01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:12.760
trained by so and so that wasn't trained by anybody
1167
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:17.000
that had been anywhere. So what I'm excited about is
1168
01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.320
I get to actually pass down the knowledge to guys
1169
01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:23.000
and learn teach them to learn how to wrestle properly
1170
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:26.079
in the ring, not only put on a good show
1171
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:30.159
for the fans, but to stay safe and be healthy.
1172
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:33.679
Okay, that's all very important. We are going and you're
1173
01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:36.039
also doing a contest, I should point out. I mean
1174
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:39.400
it's not quite tough enough, but fans are getting an opportunity.
1175
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:43.280
They sent in a three minute video explaining explaining why
1176
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:47.280
they or somebody they know deserves to be trained for free.
1177
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:50.199
Six men. I was the six months of training, both
1178
01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:52.719
wrestling and fitness training. And you guys are going to
1179
01:04:52.760 --> 01:04:55.960
pick the winner? Do you have any critarion mind?
1180
01:04:56.119 --> 01:04:56.159
You?
1181
01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:58.239
Are you just going to know the right person when
1182
01:04:58.280 --> 01:04:59.480
you see them?
1183
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:03.000
Well, we had actually already picked a winner last Saturday
1184
01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:07.119
and announced his name was Trevor. His name's Trevor Johnson's
1185
01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:10.840
twenty seven years of twenty seven years old, so Cameron Missouri.
1186
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:14.239
He's got a background in MMA. Basically, what we were
1187
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:17.880
looking forward is guys that loved pro wrestling but also
1188
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:22.800
had heart and that that really wanted this and had
1189
01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:25.079
opportunities put in front them and weren't able to take
1190
01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:28.760
advantage of them. There's so many guys out there that
1191
01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:31.039
say they want to be pro wrestlers, but until they
1192
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:33.360
actually get in the ring and see what it really
1193
01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:37.639
takes to become a good pro wrestler, Uh, they tend
1194
01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:40.840
to fade away, I guess. So that's what we were
1195
01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:42.920
looking for. Somebody that we didn't think was just going
1196
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.920
to fade away, but somebody take, you know, absolute full
1197
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:47.880
advantage of this and go to the next level.
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Okay, and you trained at early races, you know, you trained,
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you trained in Japan under Massla and mar Fuji and Kenta.
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Uh.
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It's you know, it's definitely it's definitely quite a pedigree
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to have, especially in your time in the WWE in
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terms of training young wrestlers in the Kansas City area.
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So Trevor Murdoch is here, He's been in the business.
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He's been in WWE and t and A and Ring
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Kit King and pretty much and the onon NWA television
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when they had it. Pretty much everywhere that a young
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you know, everywhere that wrestlers are looking to go. Here
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in twenty sixteen. We're taking your calls six four six eight.
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We're taking your emails. Uh, we're taking your chat groom
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questions and Twitter questions. Is excuse me? And Twitter questions? Black?
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All right, Trevor by you ready to Are you ready
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to go with us? You've been here before? Okay, remember
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those of you listening for the first time. Wednesday is
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very simple. You can ask up to three questions. You
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01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:47.119
can make it but three comments. You can combine them
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as in one question in two comments. But at the
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end of the days and still a lot. As I'm
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working for the people I work for, this is a
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PG show, minivan friendly, as my boss puts it.
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So waiting for our next caller, we'd like to remind
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you folks calling in, I'll keep your questions when in
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the boundaries.
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Of good kay and the adventure begins. We're gonna kick
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things off today the eight six two area code eight
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six two. Please state your name in town. You got
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me Wan cast with Trevor Murrays.
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Kylin from North New Jersey.
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Hey, Kylin's back. Welcome back, Kylin. Are you ready to
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talk to Trevor Murrack.
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I sure am.
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How are you doing Trevor Pat, I'm doing great. It's
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really it's really cold in Missouri right now.
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Well it's not. It's not too It's not so hot
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in the rest of the country either.
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Yeah, you guys aren't doing so well either.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
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Okay, go ahead, Colin, Okay.
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Question number one for you, Trevor, what do you feel
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is ask you from today's tag team wrestling divisions in
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all of the major organizations today.
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I only heard part of that question.
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What is a skew What, in your opinion, is not
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quite as a little bit often the way tag team
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wrestling has done today.
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Oh, I think they need to give tag team wrestling
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a little bit more focused and give them a little
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bit more storytelling. Tag team wrestling used to be the
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main event on the card when people would come watch,
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because those guys should go out there for thirty five
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or forty minutes and really entertain the fans. You notice
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now now that they're starting to give tag teams just
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a little bit of a push, a little bit of
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a spotlight, they're really starting to flourish. If they give that,
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give them more, you can really see what the tag
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teams can do.
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Yeah, I mean, I think part of is you have.
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I mean, most every company seem to be able to
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come up with a couple of good tag teams on top,
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but you know, you don't really have You're not really
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putting in the depth where you get these good where
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you get to build up new tag teams.
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I think that's well, they need to have a storyline
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and to actually give these guys depths, not just we're
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a team that dislikes you and you dislike me, so
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we're gonna fight. He's got to actually be some character
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development and story involvement that would give these guys some
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depths and character and people would really get behind it
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and know who they are.
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Okay, Colin, what's your next question?
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Oh? My second question for you, Trevor. What do you
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think will delineate your school from the more from some
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01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:57.079
of the more established wrestling schools out here, let's say
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Landform School or the Lovely Boys School.
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Oh.
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I to be honest, there's nothing. I mean, there's nothing
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that I can do. Those guys has done so much
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in this business. I'm not trying to actually separate myself
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from them. With me being in the Kansas City area
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01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:22.960
throughout the Midwest, there's nothing like what we're doing in
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01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:26.800
this area. So I'm giving the people throughout the Midwest
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an opportunity to learn how to wrestle and learn right
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from the right people. Not to mention, I'm also going
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to have a certified personal trainer on staff there every
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day to work out with these guys. I'm not sure
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if other schools have that to offer nowadays, And even
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when I was wrestling, I mean, the way you look
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is just as important as the.
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Way you wrestle.
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I wanted to make sure that I had somebody that
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could help deliver that to my students. Not only my students,
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but we're open bringing up to as a wrestlers that
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have experience to come in and pay just like a
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01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:09.479
regular gym membership, and come in and train in the
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ring whenever they want. When we're open, they can come
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in and work out in the ring from open to
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clothes if they want to, as long as they have
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experience and I note they're not going to hurt themselves
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and hurt other people.
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Yeah. Plus, another thing that I've always been told by
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by wrestlers is very important is cardio and anything you
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can do to help build up your cardio is going
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to help you in terms of long term well.
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And especially guys are constantly saying this is what I
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hear across the board any independent that I go to
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01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:42.479
is if we just had a ring, we'd be able
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01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:45.760
to we'd come in and work out and cardios, you know,
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jogging and running. That's a different cardio compared to being
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01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:53.279
in ring cardio ring shape. We're offering this to experience
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01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:56.479
wrestlers throughout the area that if you want to come
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01:11:56.520 --> 01:11:58.960
in and pay a membership, like I said, and not
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01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:02.119
only that, you'll have the gym will be included in
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01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:06.159
that membership. So you're already paying let's say a sixty
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01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:09.439
dollars gym membership, if you add another twenty dollars on
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01:12:09.479 --> 01:12:12.439
that a month, then you can get a ring involved.
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01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:13.840
Now you have to come in and train in a
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01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:15.560
ring five days a week if you want to.
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Yeah, and that's really going that's like you said, that's
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01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:21.319
really gonna help the younger guys.
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Anytime you're watching WWE Raw or SmackDown or aw Dynamite
1321
01:12:28.520 --> 01:12:30.880
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01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:32.479
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1329
01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:55.680
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01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:58.319
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01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:09.000
Kyler, Yeah, I've been willed to find no questions for
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01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:15.600
your trouble. What what is the most valuable in or
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01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:20.880
out of the ring lesson that Harley Race has taught you.
1335
01:13:24.520 --> 01:13:27.920
Man, there's there's actually a couple of them. One of
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01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:30.960
them has always been, you know, to be a man
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01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:35.520
of my word in this business. If you're not a
1338
01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:38.000
man of your word, if someone cannot believe that you're
1339
01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:40.000
gonna be where you say you're going to do what
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01:13:40.119 --> 01:13:43.479
you're gonna say you're gonna do, you have nothing in
1341
01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:47.239
this business. And I tell you when Harley told me that,
1342
01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:49.920
I heard it, but I really didn't listen to it
1343
01:13:50.199 --> 01:13:54.319
until I started following that advice, and there's there's nothing
1344
01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:56.520
worse than not being able to trust the person that
1345
01:13:56.560 --> 01:14:00.399
you're in the ring with. And to me that that's
1346
01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:02.920
that's one of the more valuable lessons that Harley taught
1347
01:14:02.920 --> 01:14:05.680
me is to always be a man of your word.
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01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:07.720
If you're gonna if you say you're gonna do it,
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01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:10.079
do it good or bad.
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01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:17.159
Well, there you go, Okay, Callen, all right, thanks, thanks
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01:14:17.239 --> 01:14:20.680
Trevor with a pleasure. Okay, thank you.
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01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:20.840
Sir.
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01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:24.520
Kylin drops off and that opens up a line for
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01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:29.079
you at six four six eight UH Peterpetwich Live cast
1355
01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:32.239
at gmail dot com. That is another way to reach us. UH.
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01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:34.880
Caleb's CEO's On next, we're gonna go to the two
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01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:38.079
four zero area code. Two four oh. Please state your
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01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:40.439
name in town. You're on the live cast with Trevor Murdock.
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01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:43.560
This is Ryan from Crumbling Maryland.
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01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:45.000
Hey you doing Ryan?
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01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:46.479
Hey?
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01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:46.760
Ryan.
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Question for the first question for Trevor is he has
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01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:54.239
the miss bizarre gimmick at your wrestling school as far
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as the.
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Trainees go, I'm currently right now having an open tr out,
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01:15:00.399 --> 01:15:04.119
so I don't have anybody with any gimmicks. My main
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01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:06.640
focus in the very beginning is to make sure that
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01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:09.800
guys can go in there and lock up properly and
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01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:13.119
learn how to wrestle properly, and then we'll get into
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the entertainment end of it.
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01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:18.319
Yeah, that sounds kind of like the uh, that sounds
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01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:20.600
kind of like the Jim Cornett approach for Ohio Valley.
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Your gimme your name is your name is Prett Smith.
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01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:25.680
Your gimmick is that you're a wrestler until until for
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that And.
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Well, I mean, if you can't wrestle, that's the thing.
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01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:31.880
If you can't wrestle, how do you plan to get
1379
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any gimmicks over? That's I mean, you got to have
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01:15:35.479 --> 01:15:36.479
one to do the other.
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01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:40.039
Well, I suppose, I suppose they could be Wildcat Willie
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01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:42.279
and dress up in a costume and fan out T shirts.
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01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:51.840
But yeah, well yeah, okay, but they don't really need
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to go ahead right, I'm sorry.
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My second question is about Sean Hanson. You think we'll
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ever get into it? Gonna be Hall of.
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Fame man with the network?
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I hope?
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So was the network? Anything's possible.
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I mean, the.
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01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:08.560
Network's introducing a time and an era to kids that
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they never even knew about or just heard about. So
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I think so. I think he's got a place in it.
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They've inducted guys that weren't directly affiliated with ww either
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whole career, So yeah, I think it's totally possible, especially
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with the network.
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Yes, yes, all the butcher got in so I don't remember.
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I don't know he ever worked at WW a match,
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So yeah, okay, I'm sorry, go ahead.
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Fell questions about the brainluster. Was there any restrictions on
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01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:48.359
using the brainluster when you were in w like you
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01:16:48.399 --> 01:16:50.079
have to get permission from that move?
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01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:54.600
Well, it wasn't a permission, it was I mean if
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01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:57.039
they if they felt like you couldn't do it properly,
1405
01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:01.119
they immediately mixed it. Now was everybody their neck injuries?
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01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:04.880
You've you know, AJ's doing it, but it's because he
1407
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:09.000
established it somewhere else and he could. They obviously trust
1408
01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:13.720
him to not hurt anybody. But once once that move
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01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:17.319
hurts somebody, you'll watch it disappear for a while. You know.
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WWE's you know, they're on top of that stuff. They
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01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:24.359
don't want anything directly towards the neck and the head.
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01:17:24.399 --> 01:17:27.199
They don't like that, especially since the Austin thing. For
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01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:32.880
what I was told, they've been very restricted on That
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makes sense.
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Okay, Ryan, thanks, thanks Trevor, Thanks, thank you.
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All right, Ryan drops off and yes, that opens up
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01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:44.520
a line for you at six four six seven pw
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01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:46.640
Torch Live cast at gmail dot com. The other way
1419
01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:49.399
to reach us, we're going to go to Uh We're
1420
01:17:49.399 --> 01:17:55.159
going to go to an internet call. Internet caller pulled out. Yeah, uh,
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no area code. You don't. Go ahead and stay your
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01:17:57.560 --> 01:17:59.319
name in town. You're on the live cast with Trever mur.
1423
01:18:00.199 --> 01:18:09.079
Hi's Ryan from England. Hello, Ryan, I loother Ryan. So
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first question, Trevor, you was talking about where people look.
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01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:18.119
Do you ever think the lots of Kevin Owens will
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be a world champion?
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Yes?
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Give him the right storyline, yes.
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Uh.
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Brian Danielson was it is a kept perfect represent representation
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that he doesn't look like your normal champion. He doesn't
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look like the champion Vince wants, but everybody wanted to
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see him be the world champion. Kevin Owens has got
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01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:50.319
something about him that that people want to see right now.
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01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:52.039
People want to see him get beat up.
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Uh.
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01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:56.239
Given the right storyline, yeah, I think he could be
1438
01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:57.000
a world champion.
1439
01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:04.840
Okay, Okay, I just obviously was talking about the way
1440
01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:09.000
people look, and obviously he's not the ideal what people
1441
01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:11.880
might see as a chumpion if you stand what I mean.
1442
01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:17.039
Well, And the thing is, people nowadays are starting to
1443
01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:19.399
realize that you don't have to have a six pack
1444
01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:23.880
and be jacked to have heart. If a man goes
1445
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:27.279
out there and gives everything he's got, people are going
1446
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:29.000
to follow that and want to be a part of
1447
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:32.159
that and get excited about that and want want that.
1448
01:19:32.840 --> 01:19:35.039
But it's got to you gotta have the wrestling ability
1449
01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:36.880
to carry a look like that as well too.
1450
01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:41.319
I totally agree with that. I think that you don't
1451
01:19:41.359 --> 01:19:43.199
really matter what you look like. If you've got it,
1452
01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:43.960
you've got it on you.
1453
01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:47.720
Well, I'm the last person to judging anybody about the
1454
01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:51.800
way they look, especially when it comes into the ring.
1455
01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:55.680
I wasn't your average you know, ww mold. I just
1456
01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:57.560
wanted to make sure when I went out there people
1457
01:19:57.640 --> 01:19:59.479
thought I was in a fight and that I would
1458
01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:01.920
hurt my guy that I was wrestling, and then I
1459
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:02.479
was angry.
1460
01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:07.880
All right, this second question, have you ever did you
1461
01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:10.600
ever get into trouble in the buck We've vinced something
1462
01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:11.359
you did now in.
1463
01:20:11.399 --> 01:20:13.359
The ring on the mic.
1464
01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:17.159
Oh let me.
1465
01:20:17.239 --> 01:20:18.520
See here, I'm trying to thank you.
1466
01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:19.279
I don't.
1467
01:20:20.840 --> 01:20:26.239
You know. Vince is a He's a fickled individual. One
1468
01:20:26.319 --> 01:20:29.279
day he will tell you that he loves vanilla and
1469
01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:32.399
that it's his favorite chocolate or his favorite ice cream,
1470
01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:34.600
and then you go out there and you give him
1471
01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:37.920
vanilla and he goes, by god, I like fucking chocolate. Oh,
1472
01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:41.079
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry, watch my language. I like chocolate.
1473
01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:42.760
James cleaned that episode.
1474
01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:49.800
Sorry, sorry, sorry, chocolate is okay If chocolate is my
1475
01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:53.199
favorite chocolate. You never knew. And there were times that
1476
01:20:53.279 --> 01:20:55.199
I would go out there and do what he had
1477
01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:57.960
loved me doing one hundred times before that, come in
1478
01:20:58.039 --> 01:21:01.039
the back and him look at me and chew my
1479
01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:03.800
hind end because he didn't think it made sense or
1480
01:21:03.880 --> 01:21:07.239
he didn't like it. So it's it's, you know, it's
1481
01:21:07.359 --> 01:21:09.399
the nature of the beasts. You know, I'm working for
1482
01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:12.680
a billion dollar company. I get my butt showed on
1483
01:21:12.720 --> 01:21:14.319
a little bit every once in a while. It's just
1484
01:21:14.399 --> 01:21:17.039
to make me better. I don't hold drudges or take
1485
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:18.039
offense to that stuff.
1486
01:21:20.760 --> 01:21:21.000
Cool.
1487
01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:26.279
So the question, so you have one more much in
1488
01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:29.960
WWE against one of the main roster right now, who
1489
01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:33.000
would it be, Oh.
1490
01:21:33.079 --> 01:21:34.479
Man, it would be Ziggler.
1491
01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:36.920
DOLFH.
1492
01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:40.000
Ziggler goes out there and gives one hundred percent in
1493
01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:43.319
any match he's in, no matter how long he's out
1494
01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:48.159
there and what he's doing out there. I actually believe
1495
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:52.279
what he's doing when he's in the ring wrestling. In
1496
01:21:52.399 --> 01:21:57.159
my opinion, he's the guy. He's their grace and the whole.
1497
01:21:57.760 --> 01:21:59.960
As soon as they bring him up and elevate him,
1498
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:04.159
people are gonna be behind that. I'm a Dolphinsiggler.
1499
01:22:05.319 --> 01:22:08.960
It's funny because I had a training seminar with Jay
1500
01:22:09.079 --> 01:22:11.800
Lee for about two a month ago and I asked
1501
01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:13.840
him the same question who we'd like to wrestle. He
1502
01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:19.800
hasn't wrestled yet, and he said Daniel Brian and Dolph Ziggler.
1503
01:22:20.199 --> 01:22:21.560
That was his answer.
1504
01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:21.920
DLP.
1505
01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:23.319
Ziggler was his second guy.
1506
01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:26.880
I think those two would have an awesome match. I
1507
01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:27.840
would love to see that.
1508
01:22:29.720 --> 01:22:32.119
Yeah, thank you.
1509
01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:35.359
Anyway, it's first time I've calleding to this show, so
1510
01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:39.199
I'm the IP list. I'm always on Wade's show. But
1511
01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:42.800
thanks doing great job and see it speech to you.
1512
01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:48.000
So okay, thank you. Ryan. The other Ryan drops off,
1513
01:22:48.079 --> 01:22:49.479
and that of course opens up a line for you.
1514
01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:54.560
Torch Live cast at gmail dot com the other way
1515
01:22:54.600 --> 01:22:57.800
you can reach us. With Trevor Murdoch, who was putting
1516
01:22:57.840 --> 01:23:01.479
together the Kansas City Pro Wrestling in the pro Wrestling
1517
01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:06.159
school that accompanies it and former WWE World Taking Champion.
1518
01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:11.319
Next week on this very program, we'll be welcoming Hurricane Helms. Heh.
1519
01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:14.960
He's been kind of busy working for TNA and had
1520
01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.119
a big role on last night's episode of Impact and
1521
01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:19.119
apparently will be on next week's Impact as well. So
1522
01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:22.239
Hurricane Helms next week. And Wade Keller has a mystery
1523
01:23:22.279 --> 01:23:25.000
guest tomorrow. That's a mystery because he hasn't told me
1524
01:23:25.039 --> 01:23:28.479
who the guest is, all right, Trevor. Actually, a couple
1525
01:23:28.479 --> 01:23:31.239
of weeks ago, Trevor, we had on a former coworker
1526
01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:35.199
of yours, Nick Dinsmore Eugene, who is doing something similar
1527
01:23:35.239 --> 01:23:38.720
to what you're doing in South Dakota. Jean, how many
1528
01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:41.720
of you know have you found that this is this
1529
01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:44.119
is something that's you know, this is something that's starting
1530
01:23:44.199 --> 01:23:45.960
up again now that wrestling is getting hot.
1531
01:23:47.479 --> 01:23:53.119
Yes, And Nick is an extremely knowledgeable individual and when
1532
01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:55.000
I seen that he was opening up school, I was
1533
01:23:55.079 --> 01:23:59.279
extremely happy for the business. Nick will have a ton
1534
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:02.720
of six seth. He really does know a lot about
1535
01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:05.840
the business in and out of the ring, and anybody
1536
01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:07.439
would be lucky to go train with him.
1537
01:24:08.600 --> 01:24:11.479
Okay, well it seems to be Yeah, seems to be
1538
01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:14.720
off to a good start. Anyway, we're going to go. Actually,
1539
01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:17.439
let's go ahead and take a question from our chat room.
1540
01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:21.039
Let's see what we got here. There we go chatroom
1541
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:24.159
question from Chicky Singer. Who wants to who goes right
1542
01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:26.560
to it? What's your favorite what's your funniest Eugene story?
1543
01:24:28.039 --> 01:24:30.239
Well, what's my funniest Eugene story?
1544
01:24:31.920 --> 01:24:32.159
Man?
1545
01:24:34.399 --> 01:24:36.960
I don't I don't really have a funny Eugene story.
1546
01:24:37.680 --> 01:24:42.199
What amazes me about Nick and Eugene is the two characters,
1547
01:24:42.319 --> 01:24:45.840
how completely the opposite they are. You know, you see
1548
01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:48.439
Eugene go out there and he can wrestle, and he
1549
01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:52.439
plays this simple minded individual. But what I mean a
1550
01:24:52.520 --> 01:24:54.720
lot of people around the world don't know is he's
1551
01:24:54.800 --> 01:24:58.359
probably the most knowledgeable and one of the best wrestlers
1552
01:24:58.960 --> 01:24:59.960
when he steps in the ring.
1553
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:00.640
Uh.
1554
01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:04.359
The guy's an extremely talented dude and uh and and
1555
01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:08.039
a humble nice guy to boot. I can't say enough
1556
01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:10.319
good things about Nick, but I don't have any real
1557
01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:12.319
crazy Eugene stories.
1558
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:16.600
Okay, let's see what do we have here coming in
1559
01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:19.880
from email? Let's uh, let's what the interesting this is
1560
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:24.039
going to be? Richard Richard from Birmingham, England. Let's see
1561
01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:27.159
loves all the podcasts on here on PW torch blah
1562
01:25:27.199 --> 01:25:30.600
blah blah. Do you think that the reason why WB
1563
01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:33.239
is in the place that it is is due to
1564
01:25:33.279 --> 01:25:36.399
the network where so many people can refer to wrestling
1565
01:25:36.439 --> 01:25:38.720
of the past and and compare that to what's going
1566
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:44.399
on now. Well, yeah, yeah, go ahead.
1567
01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:50.119
And it's a little strange question. I mean, it's I
1568
01:25:50.279 --> 01:25:53.680
think wrestling's hot now because of some of that stuff
1569
01:25:54.560 --> 01:25:58.479
and the fact that wrestling, you know, WWE is now
1570
01:25:58.760 --> 01:26:04.439
and and other companies bringing wrestling back if you get
1571
01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:06.840
if you watch don't get me wrong, I mean there's
1572
01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:09.279
three hours of w W TV, But if you watch
1573
01:26:09.359 --> 01:26:12.600
the other programs, they're actually letting these guys go out
1574
01:26:12.640 --> 01:26:15.960
there and put on some damn good matches and put
1575
01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:20.359
in some time and and uh, wrestling is hot because
1576
01:26:20.359 --> 01:26:21.479
they're letting them wrestle.
1577
01:26:22.520 --> 01:26:27.439
In my opinion, well, I think you know, they have problems.
1578
01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:29.560
I think a lot of that problem right now is
1579
01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:32.600
due to is due to you know, is due to
1580
01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:35.119
injuries and not having the depth that they're used to having.
1581
01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:39.399
You know, amazingly, you know, pretty amazing that the rating
1582
01:26:39.520 --> 01:26:42.039
popped last week, and you know the only real difference
1583
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:43.640
is that you know, the Rock was there for twenty
1584
01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:46.359
five minutes, you know, I mean, you start having you know,
1585
01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:48.800
you start having some of the bigger stars and the
1586
01:26:49.119 --> 01:26:52.399
guys who you know, the guys who are who are
1587
01:26:52.520 --> 01:26:55.319
best at working the crowd. I think I think that's
1588
01:26:55.479 --> 01:26:57.960
you know, I think that will eventually improve the rating.
1589
01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:03.479
I mean plus yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead, Yeah.
1590
01:27:03.359 --> 01:27:06.359
Well what the guys being, like you said, is being injured.
1591
01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:09.199
Those guys are out there wrestling, you know, four or
1592
01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:11.239
five nights a week. By the time they get the raw,
1593
01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:15.000
they're getting beat up because they're they're given the fans
1594
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:19.000
everything they've got. I think if they pulled back on
1595
01:27:19.079 --> 01:27:21.520
a couple of shows, they'd have bigger houses where the
1596
01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:24.600
guys should be a little bit more healthy, and they
1597
01:27:24.640 --> 01:27:27.720
would have the stars around for TV when they need them.
1598
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:31.960
M yeah, that's I mean, I was going to ask that,
1599
01:27:32.039 --> 01:27:34.800
how do you you know? I mean, that's is there
1600
01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:37.279
are there any other ways to try and cut down
1601
01:27:37.319 --> 01:27:39.479
on the number of injuries, because you know, I've heard,
1602
01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:43.439
I know Dave Meltzer talked about how they're how guys
1603
01:27:43.479 --> 01:27:45.479
are lifting, and maybe that's called you know, how guys
1604
01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:48.760
are lifting might be causing the rash of shoulder injuries. Uh,
1605
01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:50.960
maybe the you know, some of the bumps that people
1606
01:27:51.039 --> 01:27:53.079
were taking in the past there, you know, Yeah, the
1607
01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:56.199
use of the German souplex dropped a whole lot over
1608
01:27:56.199 --> 01:27:59.439
the past fifteen years. You know, once guys started getting there. Yeah,
1609
01:27:59.479 --> 01:28:03.239
but what's guy started having exerg right, anything else?
1610
01:28:04.079 --> 01:28:07.319
If you well, to be honest with you, I mean
1611
01:28:07.399 --> 01:28:10.119
they in my opinion, ww has now got the best
1612
01:28:10.279 --> 01:28:13.319
doctors and the best facility when it comes to their athletes,
1613
01:28:13.359 --> 01:28:17.159
and they've ever had In my opinion, it's just literally
1614
01:28:17.319 --> 01:28:20.960
repetition of night in, night out. Those guys are taking
1615
01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:23.560
the same bumps and your body is not made to
1616
01:28:23.640 --> 01:28:27.880
do that. There's and there's only so much you can train,
1617
01:28:28.039 --> 01:28:31.680
and there's only so much that that you can prevent,
1618
01:28:32.079 --> 01:28:34.840
you know, do to prevent some of those injuries. Those
1619
01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:37.680
guys are really putting their bodies on the line nowadays
1620
01:28:37.720 --> 01:28:41.960
compared to back. Then people a little less cautious, are
1621
01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:42.960
a little more cautious.
1622
01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:54.039
Are you a fan of AW looking to sit back,
1623
01:28:54.239 --> 01:28:57.279
relax and listen to some like minded podcasters who share
1624
01:28:57.319 --> 01:28:57.800
your passion.
1625
01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:00.199
Do you want to be topped off the ledge after
1626
01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:02.479
a segment that has you wondering what the heck are
1627
01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:03.000
they thinking?
1628
01:29:03.640 --> 01:29:05.920
Do you want to join a discussion on what AW
1629
01:29:06.199 --> 01:29:08.600
is doing right and what they could do to improve?
1630
01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:11.560
Then join me Joel and me Greg for the All
1631
01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:14.479
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1632
01:29:14.600 --> 01:29:18.359
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01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:21.720
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1636
01:29:38.920 --> 01:29:42.359
And there could be something else. I think, Yeah, I
1637
01:29:42.600 --> 01:29:45.640
think I'm trying to remember who was talking to us
1638
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:49.079
about this, But you know, guys, guys used to if
1639
01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:51.079
they were making good money, they used to work through
1640
01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:54.359
being injured. And then that's not something that's you know,
1641
01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:56.560
that's not something that's really as much of an option
1642
01:29:56.680 --> 01:29:58.399
with the doctors checking on you the way they are
1643
01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:00.199
well that.
1644
01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:02.119
And they'll pully it. I mean, as soon as they
1645
01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:04.520
think that you're going to hurt your I mean they
1646
01:30:04.840 --> 01:30:08.079
pull you that. The guys have no more there is
1647
01:30:08.159 --> 01:30:11.960
no more control you are and no sounds sad, but
1648
01:30:12.079 --> 01:30:15.000
it means you are what wwe You do what they
1649
01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:18.119
tell you? You know what I mean, it's there is
1650
01:30:18.239 --> 01:30:20.920
no manning up anymore. You're not getting an opportunity to
1651
01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:21.399
man up.
1652
01:30:25.640 --> 01:30:28.720
Yeah, I mean, I know he's ready to example. He
1653
01:30:28.880 --> 01:30:31.279
is the perfect example. But I mean they're starting to
1654
01:30:31.359 --> 01:30:33.640
treat these you know, I mean it sounds corporate, but
1655
01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:36.359
they're starting to treat the wrestlers like these guys are assets.
1656
01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:38.760
We can't afford to have them, you know, we can't
1657
01:30:38.760 --> 01:30:41.760
afford to have them hurting themselves worse when they're when
1658
01:30:41.800 --> 01:30:44.399
they can just be you know, and and and then
1659
01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:46.800
getting career ending injuries when it's easier to rest them
1660
01:30:46.880 --> 01:30:47.560
up from time to time.
1661
01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:51.399
Well, and if they just backed off on a couple
1662
01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:54.079
of shows a week, they wouldn't. I honestly think that
1663
01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:56.800
they would prevent a lot of this. But when you've
1664
01:30:56.840 --> 01:30:59.920
got a corporate machine running like that, that need to
1665
01:31:00.239 --> 01:31:04.039
thinking about the bottom dollar, not making money is not
1666
01:31:04.159 --> 01:31:04.600
an option.
1667
01:31:06.600 --> 01:31:11.239
I imagine it's not. They also, I mean Dave also,
1668
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:14.159
I mean if you count NXT's Florida shows, they're also
1669
01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:18.560
running four tours. That's uh, you know that that I
1670
01:31:18.680 --> 01:31:21.000
think that takes a little bit more roster depth than
1671
01:31:21.119 --> 01:31:24.680
what they what they have at the moment. But that's
1672
01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:28.279
really yeah, okay, let's go back to let's go back
1673
01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:31.039
to another time of the question. Are most of the
1674
01:31:31.199 --> 01:31:34.920
cowboy gimmick wrestlers really true cowboys in real life? Like
1675
01:31:35.520 --> 01:31:38.520
he gives examples of Jim Ross, JBL and Wild Bill Irwin.
1676
01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:43.520
Yes, And I mean JBL may put a suit on,
1677
01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:47.319
but he still wears boots. I mean, still he's still country.
1678
01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:52.359
Uh yeah, that's I don't know, it's you know, even
1679
01:31:52.439 --> 01:31:56.039
Billy Gunn with him doing what was it smoking guns.
1680
01:31:56.119 --> 01:31:57.600
I mean when you talk to that guy, you know
1681
01:31:57.720 --> 01:32:01.319
he's from the South, he's still country. Uh. You really
1682
01:32:01.399 --> 01:32:04.039
can't fake that kind of gimmick, to be honest with you.
1683
01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:07.399
Yeah, that's you know, that's that's something you can't really.
1684
01:32:07.560 --> 01:32:09.399
I mean, if you put that on somebody as a
1685
01:32:09.479 --> 01:32:11.119
goof you know, people will be able to spot it
1686
01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:11.560
right away.
1687
01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:14.640
So yeah, and it's you know, and to be honest
1688
01:32:14.680 --> 01:32:17.079
with you, I mean, it's no different than any other gimmick.
1689
01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:21.359
It's just a part of us amped up twenty fold
1690
01:32:22.800 --> 01:32:25.359
to stand out as a character in that time.
1691
01:32:26.960 --> 01:32:31.600
Okay, six four six eight. Talking with Trevor Murdoch, former
1692
01:32:32.039 --> 01:32:35.720
w W Tag Team Champion of the World. Another email
1693
01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:38.880
question from our man Richard, who wanted to know when
1694
01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:41.479
brack Lsner was champion last year, he made the WW
1695
01:32:41.720 --> 01:32:44.800
title feel special. How do you think WW can make
1696
01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:46.640
the title feel like the main draw again?
1697
01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:55.359
Hmmm, man, that's that's a really good question. I mean,
1698
01:32:55.760 --> 01:32:59.520
they've got to give the fans what they want. I
1699
01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:04.000
don't know if the fans actually want Roman Reigns as
1700
01:33:04.239 --> 01:33:07.640
the man right now. I'm not saying anything against the
1701
01:33:07.720 --> 01:33:15.560
man right well, what I'm saying is, you know what
1702
01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:19.640
I mean, they're looking as in my opinion, at Roman
1703
01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:24.439
Range as the next John Cena. And just like John Cena,
1704
01:33:24.520 --> 01:33:26.560
he had his you know, his bumps and bruises and
1705
01:33:26.680 --> 01:33:29.479
took him took the people a little while to uh
1706
01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:31.640
to like John as well too.
1707
01:33:34.039 --> 01:33:34.760
I I don't know.
1708
01:33:34.880 --> 01:33:36.760
I think they've got to find that one guy that
1709
01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:40.199
everybody wants to get behind, it wants to see I
1710
01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:44.000
throw in again, Dolph Ziggler. If they put the belt
1711
01:33:44.079 --> 01:33:46.000
on him and run an angle with him, I think
1712
01:33:46.079 --> 01:33:49.479
people would get behind him, you know, closely to what
1713
01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:54.159
they did with Brian Danielson. Right now. I think the
1714
01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:57.000
people feel a little cheated with Trip, you know, with
1715
01:33:57.119 --> 01:34:01.239
Hunter having the title. But everybody also got to understand
1716
01:34:01.319 --> 01:34:04.560
that this is a it's a storyline. It's you know,
1717
01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:08.720
it's their job to make you angry, and they're they're
1718
01:34:08.800 --> 01:34:11.600
doing their best to try to find to be the
1719
01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:13.880
biggest bad guys. So you love Roman.
1720
01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:18.199
Well, I do understand that. I mean, I mean, I
1721
01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:22.000
think part of it is you have u w W
1722
01:34:22.359 --> 01:34:24.399
really has one way that they want to have a
1723
01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:26.960
champion that you know, when when Kevin Nash was Diesel
1724
01:34:26.960 --> 01:34:28.960
and he was champion, they tried to book him like
1725
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:31.199
he was hul Cogan and he wasn't whole Cogan, he
1726
01:34:31.239 --> 01:34:33.840
was Kevin Nash. I think, you know, I think that
1727
01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:37.000
I think you can't book Roman Reigns the same way
1728
01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:39.960
as John Cena. I mean, Roman Reigns from all accounts
1729
01:34:40.079 --> 01:34:43.359
is you know is a very is a funny and
1730
01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:45.880
smart guy and you're not getting and you're not getting
1731
01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:46.720
to see a lot of that.
1732
01:34:47.399 --> 01:34:50.960
No, and I mean back in the day they were
1733
01:34:51.439 --> 01:34:54.079
they would tell guys, hey, this is the storyline, this
1734
01:34:54.199 --> 01:34:55.600
is what we want you to talk about it, and
1735
01:34:55.640 --> 01:34:59.680
they would let the character come out. And everything now
1736
01:34:59.880 --> 01:35:04.119
is so scripted and so curtailed, and this is what
1737
01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:06.000
you need to say that you're not able to get
1738
01:35:06.039 --> 01:35:08.479
that real passion and that real emotion out of an
1739
01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:11.880
individual until they go off script. And when they go
1740
01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:14.000
off script, two things are going to happen. If it
1741
01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:16.119
gets over, you get a pat on the back when
1742
01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:18.359
you go back, But if they blew you and out
1743
01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:21.239
of the building, well walking through that curtain is going
1744
01:35:21.279 --> 01:35:22.880
to be a little tougher than what the crowd just
1745
01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:26.079
gave you, you know what I mean. Oh yeah, there's
1746
01:35:26.119 --> 01:35:29.600
a few guys that go off script and do what
1747
01:35:29.680 --> 01:35:32.319
they got to do to get over. We need more
1748
01:35:32.359 --> 01:35:35.319
of those guys, that's true.
1749
01:35:35.319 --> 01:35:37.000
There aren't a lot of guys who are trusted to
1750
01:35:37.079 --> 01:35:40.560
do that. And when you were there and this was
1751
01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:43.880
but I don't know, we're going on seven eight years ago.
1752
01:35:44.640 --> 01:35:47.079
Was it like that, whether the tight scripting or were
1753
01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:48.039
you getting bullet points?
1754
01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:55.439
It was it was tight scripted until they felt comfortable
1755
01:35:55.479 --> 01:35:57.960
with you and their character that what you were saying
1756
01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:02.560
fit your character. They're very you know, they're very nervous
1757
01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:06.079
of anybody unless you just unless you've gotten over somewhere
1758
01:36:06.119 --> 01:36:10.119
else comfortable on the mic with a gimmick already, but
1759
01:36:10.279 --> 01:36:12.840
they have, they will tell you, you know, they'll come
1760
01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:15.640
with you with a sheet. This is what we wants
1761
01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:18.640
you to say. I would take I would actually grab
1762
01:36:18.720 --> 01:36:22.399
the sheet and walk away and read it ten fifteen
1763
01:36:22.520 --> 01:36:25.000
times over and over and try to make it my
1764
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:27.560
own where I could still get across what they wanted.
1765
01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:30.680
But what didn't sound like a guy just sat down
1766
01:36:30.760 --> 01:36:31.479
and wrote.
1767
01:36:31.199 --> 01:36:31.840
It out for me.
1768
01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:36.479
I no, that, I mean, that's what you that's kind
1769
01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:38.359
of I think that's better. I think you just you know,
1770
01:36:38.800 --> 01:36:40.800
I think you just give guys the points that you
1771
01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:44.319
want to get, want them to get across, and and
1772
01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:46.439
hopefully they can find a way to do it or
1773
01:36:46.479 --> 01:36:47.720
they won't be around very.
1774
01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:51.199
Long, all right, trust your talent?
1775
01:36:52.640 --> 01:36:55.760
Yeah, yeah, I think so. And you know, when when
1776
01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:58.920
Micro got hot, you know, guys would you know, wrestlers
1777
01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:02.319
were even on the undercard, they were getting to cut promos,
1778
01:37:02.399 --> 01:37:04.079
you know, live in the ring after they you know,
1779
01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:06.119
live outside the ring with Geene Oakland. If they just
1780
01:37:06.159 --> 01:37:09.720
got done wrestling a match and that's that helped develop them,
1781
01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:12.760
I mean, you can't. You know, guys need to guys needs.
1782
01:37:12.880 --> 01:37:15.159
Guys need to practice wrestling in order to wrestle and
1783
01:37:15.239 --> 01:37:17.439
have lots of matches. Guys need to, you know, cut
1784
01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:20.680
promos in order to get better at it. All right,
1785
01:37:21.239 --> 01:37:23.359
question for the chat room. How often have you been
1786
01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:25.079
in Texas bull rope matches?
1787
01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:32.199
I believe I've had four of them so far. It
1788
01:37:32.359 --> 01:37:34.720
seems as every time I go down to the South,
1789
01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:37.000
somebody wants to put me in a bull rope match.
1790
01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:40.199
I went and did a shot in Georgia a while back,
1791
01:37:41.159 --> 01:37:43.960
and hey, can you come in and do a Dusty
1792
01:37:44.079 --> 01:37:47.880
Roads Bullrope Invitational match? Sure?
1793
01:37:50.880 --> 01:37:53.720
Well, the lst question is sure. Any answer has to
1794
01:37:53.760 --> 01:37:55.359
be sure, do you guys have a bull rope because
1795
01:37:55.399 --> 01:37:57.399
I'm not gonna be able to get that through airport security.
1796
01:37:58.319 --> 01:38:00.880
Oh yeah, that's I mean, there has to be a big,
1797
01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:03.680
long talk about it, And to be honest with you,
1798
01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:06.640
I've I've been asked more than more times than what
1799
01:38:06.680 --> 01:38:09.920
I've done. Because a bull rope match is supposed to
1800
01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:13.439
be leading up from something in an angle, not just hey,
1801
01:38:13.640 --> 01:38:16.680
come to the show because these two guys are to
1802
01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:20.439
a rope and beating. We're trying to sell tickets. So yeah,
1803
01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:22.760
that's just now how I do business.
1804
01:38:24.600 --> 01:38:27.760
Well, you're going to be involved in putting together local shows.
1805
01:38:28.159 --> 01:38:30.000
I mean you've studied how to do it, you know.
1806
01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:31.960
I mean Harley Race is put on local shows for
1807
01:38:32.039 --> 01:38:34.520
a while and you've been a part of that. What
1808
01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:37.640
do you think are the areas that what do you
1809
01:38:37.680 --> 01:38:40.159
think of the areas that your shows will have that
1810
01:38:40.319 --> 01:38:43.119
you know, maybe will be uh, maybe we'll be different
1811
01:38:43.159 --> 01:38:44.640
from what you're seeing out there.
1812
01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:49.119
Well, the thing is, I'm not That's one of the
1813
01:38:49.199 --> 01:38:53.359
reasons why we've partnered up with Metro Pro Wrestling. Okay,
1814
01:38:53.479 --> 01:38:56.960
we're we're not going to be running any shows directly.
1815
01:38:57.399 --> 01:39:00.439
We don't want to be any competition with anybody. We
1816
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:03.560
solely want to be here to help wrestlers get better
1817
01:39:03.720 --> 01:39:07.119
and for other promotions to find local talent, if not
1818
01:39:07.560 --> 01:39:12.960
hidden talent that they want for their promotions. Putting on
1819
01:39:13.079 --> 01:39:17.760
a show is a whole nother beast, and I do
1820
01:39:17.920 --> 01:39:21.600
not want that stress and that confusion. I want to
1821
01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:24.720
be able to focus on the guys there and give
1822
01:39:24.760 --> 01:39:26.920
them one hundred and ten percent of what I have.
1823
01:39:27.720 --> 01:39:30.520
That's the one thing that I'm hoping they'll set me
1824
01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:33.520
out to be different from everybody else's. I'm going to
1825
01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:36.520
be there five days a week. You're going to be
1826
01:39:36.560 --> 01:39:39.560
able to train with me every day, talk to me
1827
01:39:39.920 --> 01:39:43.279
and learn from from what I've learned, and try to
1828
01:39:43.319 --> 01:39:44.239
get yourself better.
1829
01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:47.520
Okay, so you're trying to avoid a lot of for
1830
01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:49.319
one of a better term, indie politics.
1831
01:39:50.640 --> 01:39:56.119
Yes, sir, you're absolutely co wrecked. Okay, Putting on a
1832
01:39:56.199 --> 01:39:59.520
show is a whole other beast and a whole nother
1833
01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:01.039
lifetime of work.
1834
01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:07.359
Any part of that, all right, Well, there's no question
1835
01:40:07.680 --> 01:40:11.439
from Richard from England. Start one. When Finn Bella gets
1836
01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:13.520
the main roster, do you think Vince will ruin him
1837
01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:15.640
like the others that have come from NXT or would
1838
01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:17.720
he keep him as a special attraction and protect him?
1839
01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:21.399
You know, I don't. I'm going to take issue with
1840
01:40:21.479 --> 01:40:24.079
the first part of that, with him ruining guys that
1841
01:40:24.159 --> 01:40:26.640
came from NXT. Pretty much everybody that's coming up is
1842
01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:29.760
coming from NXT, and I don't want to be saying that,
1843
01:40:29.880 --> 01:40:32.760
you know, Vince ruined Roman reigns. He ruined, Seth Rollins
1844
01:40:33.119 --> 01:40:37.479
and Dean Ambrose, that's Pray Wyatt, that's you know, that's
1845
01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:39.359
not exactly the way I see it. I don't think
1846
01:40:39.399 --> 01:40:42.920
that they've been treated any differently than I think. I
1847
01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:45.399
think that that those wrestlers have had the same problem
1848
01:40:45.479 --> 01:40:47.000
that all the other wrestlers have had with, you know,
1849
01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:49.119
putting on a three hour show every Monday night and
1850
01:40:49.199 --> 01:40:50.039
trying to keep it fresh.
1851
01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:52.920
Well, do you think the.
1852
01:40:52.960 --> 01:40:56.439
Fact is that the fans need to understand that this
1853
01:40:56.560 --> 01:41:00.520
is a complete different setting. When they see them in NXT,
1854
01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:04.159
it's more it's a smaller venue, it's a more tighter,
1855
01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:07.399
homier venue. And then when you see those stars walk
1856
01:41:07.479 --> 01:41:10.079
out on RAW, it's it seems like they're in a
1857
01:41:10.199 --> 01:41:13.359
different setting. If they would just give them time, then
1858
01:41:14.039 --> 01:41:16.000
I'm telling you they're not bringing those guys up just
1859
01:41:16.079 --> 01:41:19.439
to waste them. And I certainly don't think Hunter would
1860
01:41:19.600 --> 01:41:24.119
would let that happen because right now NXT is his baby,
1861
01:41:24.199 --> 01:41:29.159
and anybody that gets brought up the representation of that.
1862
01:41:30.239 --> 01:41:33.640
Some guys get over in bigger markets, some guys get
1863
01:41:33.680 --> 01:41:38.039
over in smaller markets. It's it's a weird thing, but
1864
01:41:38.159 --> 01:41:41.239
it's I wouldn't completely blame that home on the company.
1865
01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:45.560
Yeah, I don't think. I mean, I've heard that they
1866
01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:47.439
want to bring up thin Valor, but I don't think
1867
01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:49.520
they want to bring up spin Balor so he can fail.
1868
01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:51.760
I mean they they want to bring up thin Ballor
1869
01:41:51.840 --> 01:41:53.960
so they can sell lots of thin Ballor masks and
1870
01:41:54.079 --> 01:41:55.439
T shirts and all that stuff.
1871
01:41:56.800 --> 01:41:58.720
Well, and that comes with the whole he's got to
1872
01:41:58.760 --> 01:42:02.000
do the whole gimmick to do that. Yeah, I think
1873
01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:05.159
they're just waiting for the right time. I also think
1874
01:42:05.239 --> 01:42:10.359
that he is still needed in NXT, so there's there's
1875
01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:14.079
a right you know, WW. As as many fails as
1876
01:42:14.199 --> 01:42:18.039
they've had, they've also had positives too, And when they've
1877
01:42:18.039 --> 01:42:20.319
placed the guy in the right place at the right
1878
01:42:20.479 --> 01:42:23.720
time and he's gotten over the way he's supposed to.
1879
01:42:24.399 --> 01:42:26.239
To me, is very easy for us to look back
1880
01:42:26.279 --> 01:42:27.880
on WW and know where they should have done this,
1881
01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:30.880
and they didn't do that, they didn't do this. We
1882
01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:33.119
need to also talk about what they have done too.
1883
01:42:33.239 --> 01:42:36.039
And I really do think that they're waiting to put
1884
01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:38.439
him in the right place at the right time. And
1885
01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:40.319
he's a guy that I can see pop up at it,
1886
01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:44.039
you know, towards a WrestleMania match and and have an
1887
01:42:44.079 --> 01:42:47.000
excellent WrestleMania match and get to be on the main
1888
01:42:47.119 --> 01:42:50.279
roster the next night. We've seen that as well too.
1889
01:42:51.960 --> 01:42:55.159
Okay, yeah, and you know you talk about the guys
1890
01:42:55.199 --> 01:42:57.039
who failed, well, first of all, not everybody can be
1891
01:42:57.079 --> 01:42:58.840
in the main event. And you've also got to look
1892
01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:02.359
at the guys you know that yet you thought they're
1893
01:43:02.399 --> 01:43:04.960
never going to get that over, and they get over.
1894
01:43:05.079 --> 01:43:07.560
I think the New Day is probably the best example
1895
01:43:07.600 --> 01:43:09.800
of that. They were you know, they took the opportunity,
1896
01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:11.840
they were able to get themselves over to the point
1897
01:43:11.880 --> 01:43:13.840
that you know, they're they're one of the reasons people
1898
01:43:13.880 --> 01:43:14.600
go to see the show.
1899
01:43:16.159 --> 01:43:17.760
Not to me, I mean, they were in the main
1900
01:43:17.840 --> 01:43:20.840
event last week. I mean that's what everybody's goal is,
1901
01:43:21.159 --> 01:43:25.159
in that main event match on roll and they are
1902
01:43:25.560 --> 01:43:31.000
and they're wearing unicorn prostises on their fore.
1903
01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:35.000
Yeah, I mean yeah. I mean when you when you go,
1904
01:43:35.840 --> 01:43:37.359
when you go and you plan out your gimmick and
1905
01:43:37.439 --> 01:43:39.119
you talk to and you talk to the office, yeah,
1906
01:43:39.119 --> 01:43:41.239
we're going to come out with unicorn horns, you'd they
1907
01:43:41.560 --> 01:43:44.399
probably would not have done for that right away. I
1908
01:43:44.800 --> 01:43:46.640
definitely definitely understand that.
1909
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Okay, email, let's see what we have here. We've got
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Andy from Andy from Saint Louis, Love the podcast, Love
1925
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James Love Wade. I think Roman rings will turn heel
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01:44:35.960 --> 01:44:38.800
at fast Lane and we'll have Roman and Dean at
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WrestleMania and Brock Wrestling Triple h Okay, that's more of
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01:44:42.479 --> 01:44:46.039
a comment. But you know, I'm pretty sure at some
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point we're going to get Roman reigns against Dean Ambrose.
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I'm just not sure it's going to be at WrestleMania,
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like this guy thinks.
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Yeah, I don't think it is either. They're my opinion.
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WWE's goal is to elevate Roman reigns. That's the whole
1934
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thing is. You know, the only way he can do
1935
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that is if he's in the main to get somebody
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bigger than him for him to beat. And I don't
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know if Dean is in that position, and I don't
1938
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think it would be good for Dean either. Could be
1939
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absolutely honest with you. He doesn't need to be on
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to lose an end of anything right now.
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Really, I'm sure after WrestleMania there's plenty of time to
1942
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have Dean turn on Roman, or Roman turn on Dean,
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or maybe they just get Vessel for the title. Anyway,
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I mean, that's yeah, that's that's not anything. I don't
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think that's anything we're going to see in the next
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couple of months. Okay, let's see what else we have
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out here. Okay, well, this isn't really a question, but
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we've got uh got the reader reading in about Blackjack Mulligan.
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I mean, did you get to you get to spend
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any time with uh with Blackjack's grandkids who are right
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now in ww with with Bray Wyatt and Bo Dallas.
1952
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No, I got the time. The people I got to
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spend with was Mike Rotunda and Berry Windham. They were
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01:46:04.720 --> 01:46:07.920
both agents at the time. And you know, I'm I'm
1955
01:46:08.000 --> 01:46:11.199
a huge mark for just old school wrestling, So it
1956
01:46:11.800 --> 01:46:14.079
wasn't nothing for me to be walking up to Bury
1957
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and sit down and just got done watching the match
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of his at Starcate or something and go sit down
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and go up to him, go so how did this
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01:46:22.960 --> 01:46:26.000
match go? And and hit him up for what was
1961
01:46:26.079 --> 01:46:30.159
going on? You know that those that whole family there
1962
01:46:30.279 --> 01:46:34.880
is is they've been wrestling for centuries and you can't
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you can't help but want to go up and ask
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them questions and have knowledge. I can't say enough good
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things about them.
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Okay, in addition to them, who else do you think we're?
1967
01:46:47.600 --> 01:46:49.840
Who else were really helpful to you? In terms of
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01:46:50.239 --> 01:46:51.880
people backstage at ww.
1969
01:46:51.720 --> 01:46:56.279
A, arn Anderson was my was my go to guy.
1970
01:46:57.239 --> 01:46:59.840
He and the reason was because I felt more comfortable
1971
01:46:59.880 --> 01:47:01.920
with him than I did with anybody else. I mean,
1972
01:47:02.720 --> 01:47:07.720
Arn was he shot you straight and gave you straight answers. No,
1973
01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:10.600
you know, and in a company where everybody's kind of
1974
01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:13.800
passing the buck to somebody else. It was very refreshing
1975
01:47:13.880 --> 01:47:17.239
and comforting to know that I wouldn't I wouldn't get smoke,
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you know both, you know what I mean? Uh yeah,
1977
01:47:21.079 --> 01:47:26.600
And not to mention the knowledge that man has. For example,
1978
01:47:26.680 --> 01:47:29.319
one time, Lance and I were wanting to do something
1979
01:47:29.439 --> 01:47:31.920
with the something different with the Highlanders, and we were
1980
01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:34.840
just stuck when it came to psychology and gimmicks, and
1981
01:47:35.399 --> 01:47:36.680
we sat down next to Arn.
1982
01:47:36.800 --> 01:47:37.880
We were at the Hall of Fame.
1983
01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:40.960
Lance and I sat down on the steps right next
1984
01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:43.880
to arn nsc and said, you know, we don't know
1985
01:47:43.960 --> 01:47:46.159
what to do with these guys. We're kind of drawing
1986
01:47:46.199 --> 01:47:49.239
a blank. And he goes, well, if I was you,
1987
01:47:49.800 --> 01:47:53.720
I'm working like the sheep hurders. And as you know
1988
01:47:53.800 --> 01:48:00.760
who the Sheepburgers are, the bushwhackers, And they just clicked
1989
01:48:00.840 --> 01:48:03.840
for us. Oh well that okay. Now that now that changes,
1990
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That makes complete sense. That changes the game. And Lance
1991
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and I were able to come up with this and
1992
01:48:08.840 --> 01:48:11.359
that and and all kinds of spots for those guys
1993
01:48:11.520 --> 01:48:14.479
to get their character over, but also still make us
1994
01:48:14.560 --> 01:48:17.640
look strong as well too, you know. So Arn was
1995
01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:21.199
was my go to guy the other guy was probably
1996
01:48:21.279 --> 01:48:25.960
shown at that that his last big run. You know,
1997
01:48:26.159 --> 01:48:29.800
he was trying to stay low key. So with Lance
1998
01:48:29.840 --> 01:48:32.079
and I we you know, he rode with us to
1999
01:48:32.319 --> 01:48:35.399
you know, on on trips to shows, and we would
2000
01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:37.239
we hit him up with you know, we hit him
2001
01:48:37.279 --> 01:48:39.720
up with every question, you know, the Canadian screw job,
2002
01:48:39.840 --> 01:48:41.800
all of it. He was an open book to us
2003
01:48:41.880 --> 01:48:45.479
and honest and watched our matches and actually went to
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01:48:45.560 --> 01:48:47.079
the office. He was the one that went to the
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01:48:47.199 --> 01:48:50.800
office events and fought for the angle when d X
2006
01:48:50.920 --> 01:48:54.279
came back to have their first run with us. So,
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I mean, if it wasn't for him when they got
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01:48:56.199 --> 01:48:59.680
that opportunity and that exposure, well.
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That's that's it's good. Let's do okay. I'm also looking
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01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:05.359
over our site. On the news today, there's a story
2011
01:49:05.399 --> 01:49:08.600
on TMZ about Crime Time looking to return to w W.
2012
01:49:09.920 --> 01:49:12.279
We had JTG on the show a few weeks ago,
2013
01:49:12.359 --> 01:49:17.039
actually actually back before Christmas and uh he uh. He
2014
01:49:17.119 --> 01:49:20.279
didn't talk about it much, but apparently you you and
2015
01:49:21.119 --> 01:49:23.359
he and Shad butted heads with you and Lance caid
2016
01:49:23.399 --> 01:49:23.960
once or twice.
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01:49:25.439 --> 01:49:29.600
Yes, and he even went on Jericho's podcast about a
2018
01:49:29.720 --> 01:49:33.640
certain incident whereas they they bumped the referee and they
2019
01:49:33.680 --> 01:49:34.279
got fired.
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01:49:35.720 --> 01:49:40.039
Yeah that's yeah, they did j.
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01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:44.800
Yes, and even put it in paperback. But what he
2022
01:49:44.920 --> 01:49:50.680
doesn't he's not telling the story correctly. It's number one. Yeah,
2023
01:49:51.640 --> 01:49:55.159
he's actually blowing smoke up everybody's first He says that
2024
01:49:55.279 --> 01:49:58.800
we had we were incohots with the referee to go
2025
01:49:58.920 --> 01:50:01.880
over to win them match. Well, what he doesn't tell
2026
01:50:01.960 --> 01:50:03.920
anybody is the fact that me and Lance were the
2027
01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:07.159
tag champs and we were going over anyway with our finish.
2028
01:50:07.840 --> 01:50:13.720
So if we were into hoots with the referee and
2029
01:50:13.840 --> 01:50:18.800
the booker, yes, but if okay, And their other argument
2030
01:50:19.039 --> 01:50:21.920
was that they heard me yelling at the referee to
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01:50:22.039 --> 01:50:24.560
count faster. That's why they believe we were into hoots
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01:50:24.640 --> 01:50:27.800
with the referee. But if anybody was any I mean,
2033
01:50:27.920 --> 01:50:31.920
I'm talking two days, two days of knowledge of pro wrestling.
2034
01:50:32.439 --> 01:50:33.199
I am a heel.
2035
01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:35.840
I am not going to tell the referee to slow
2036
01:50:35.960 --> 01:50:39.039
down the count when the baby faces on the outside
2037
01:50:39.079 --> 01:50:40.920
the ring, I'm going to tell him speed it up.
2038
01:50:40.920 --> 01:50:42.960
Come on, ref, come on, come on, come on, come on, hey,
2039
01:50:43.079 --> 01:50:47.399
come on, come on ref. That is their argument. Bottom
2040
01:50:47.520 --> 01:50:50.000
line is we did a spot that Lance and I
2041
01:50:50.159 --> 01:50:52.439
do every time in the match where Lance shoots the
2042
01:50:52.520 --> 01:50:56.000
guy off, picks him up for an inverted atomic drop,
2043
01:50:56.079 --> 01:50:58.840
and holds him. I hit the ropes and give the
2044
01:50:58.880 --> 01:51:01.680
guy a big boot while Lances hold him. It's a
2045
01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:05.199
heel double team move. Usually the babyface rolls out of
2046
01:51:05.239 --> 01:51:10.680
the ring and they get the emotional six seven A
2047
01:51:11.199 --> 01:51:12.520
and they roll back in the ring.
2048
01:51:13.600 --> 01:51:13.720
Well.
2049
01:51:13.880 --> 01:51:17.159
WWE was very was on top of the referees at
2050
01:51:17.159 --> 01:51:19.880
the time because guys were kicking out at three and
2051
01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:22.399
a quarter and the refs weren't counting it, and they
2052
01:51:22.399 --> 01:51:25.159
were getting a ton of heat from the crowd, so
2053
01:51:25.319 --> 01:51:27.640
they were on the refs. If the guys are out,
2054
01:51:27.920 --> 01:51:31.920
they're out. If they count three, they're pinned. So we
2055
01:51:32.119 --> 01:51:39.840
do the spot. JTG rolls out six seven eight, No
2056
01:51:40.039 --> 01:51:45.439
JTG nine, no JTG ten. He pops up eleven, he
2057
01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:47.479
rolls into the ring. Well at ten, the ref already
2058
01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:52.199
run the bell. Yeah, it wasn't our fault. He didn't
2059
01:51:52.199 --> 01:51:54.279
get in the ring fast enough because you weren't paying attention.
2060
01:51:55.119 --> 01:51:58.760
I turned around, my partner's screaming, what just happened? What
2061
01:51:59.079 --> 01:52:01.520
just happened. The only thing I could do was raise
2062
01:52:01.640 --> 01:52:04.640
my hands and go we just won. And he started
2063
01:52:04.760 --> 01:52:08.159
laughing because we won the match because he wasn't paying attention,
2064
01:52:08.439 --> 01:52:10.600
he didn't get in the ring. We were already the
2065
01:52:10.720 --> 01:52:14.319
tag chance. If we were in cahoots, wouldn't you think
2066
01:52:14.359 --> 01:52:17.439
we'd rather go over with our finish the high low,
2067
01:52:17.640 --> 01:52:19.880
like we had already had planned in the back and
2068
01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:21.239
make ourselves look strong.
2069
01:52:23.199 --> 01:52:26.000
Well, unless you wanted to extend your FIOD with crime time, yeah,
2070
01:52:26.359 --> 01:52:27.039
that would make sense.
2071
01:52:28.039 --> 01:52:32.720
Not at a house show. Okay, it doesn't matter at
2072
01:52:32.760 --> 01:52:35.920
a house show. But see he's telling people that, and
2073
01:52:36.119 --> 01:52:39.159
Lance isn't here to defend himself. And I just think
2074
01:52:39.199 --> 01:52:42.520
it's funny that that's how. And they're the ones that
2075
01:52:42.640 --> 01:52:45.800
bumped the referee. They didn't have to pick up the referee.
2076
01:52:45.800 --> 01:52:48.279
If they would have never bumped the referee, they would
2077
01:52:48.279 --> 01:52:51.399
have never gotten fired. That's what the heat was. They
2078
01:52:51.479 --> 01:52:55.479
picked up an untrained individual and hit their finish, almost
2079
01:52:55.560 --> 01:52:58.159
broke his arm, and then when they got in the
2080
01:52:58.199 --> 01:53:01.279
back they had an attitude about it with John Cena.
2081
01:53:03.079 --> 01:53:04.359
That's not that's not smart.
2082
01:53:05.640 --> 01:53:08.520
No, you don't smart off and tell John Cena the
2083
01:53:08.720 --> 01:53:11.319
f all I don't care who they are, not that
2084
01:53:11.359 --> 01:53:13.960
he's gonna kick your head in. He's gonna laugh at
2085
01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:17.079
you and go, Okay, who do you think he's talking
2086
01:53:17.119 --> 01:53:22.880
to the next day? Right and lo and behold who
2087
01:53:22.960 --> 01:53:27.600
got fired the next day? That's all on them. They
2088
01:53:27.680 --> 01:53:31.439
did that to themselves. That whole thing within the match
2089
01:53:31.720 --> 01:53:34.800
they could have got out of that was probably, you know,
2090
01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:40.000
a butting and some embarrassment. But it was their reactions
2091
01:53:40.039 --> 01:53:42.560
and their behavior after the match, and who they talked
2092
01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:44.439
to and how they treat people and how they behaved
2093
01:53:44.479 --> 01:53:47.960
and how they gave towards the situation they got them fired.
2094
01:53:49.279 --> 01:53:52.520
Okay, Well, the stuff that JTD wrote about Chad being
2095
01:53:52.560 --> 01:53:54.720
a big goof, are you willing to agree with him
2096
01:53:54.760 --> 01:53:54.880
on that?
2097
01:53:57.680 --> 01:54:02.800
I mean, I got along with Shad personally in the ring.
2098
01:54:03.159 --> 01:54:08.079
He never took anything. It never took a series, So yeah,
2099
01:54:08.159 --> 01:54:10.079
I mean, to a certain extent, Yeah, he's a big goose.
2100
01:54:10.880 --> 01:54:14.720
All right, all right, we're coming up on the end
2101
01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:17.800
of the program, by the way, immediately coming up at
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01:54:17.840 --> 01:54:20.279
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2106
01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:33.079
we we we got our our guys ran an interview
2107
01:54:33.159 --> 01:54:35.800
on the website and Kurt Angle wrote in his blog
2108
01:54:36.640 --> 01:54:39.560
he apparently, you know, had his retirement matches over that
2109
01:54:39.760 --> 01:54:44.359
last week in UH in Great Britain. You know, talk
2110
01:54:44.399 --> 01:54:48.279
about talk about the Kurt Angle that I don't Actually
2111
01:54:48.279 --> 01:54:50.720
I'm trying to remember how much he overlapped with your
2112
01:54:50.720 --> 01:54:51.279
guys is run.
2113
01:54:52.680 --> 01:54:57.800
He was there for about six months before when I
2114
01:54:57.920 --> 01:54:59.880
came in, and then he was gone, and then I
2115
01:55:00.119 --> 01:55:02.079
worked with him in T and A as well too.
2116
01:55:03.439 --> 01:55:08.760
You talk about a very intense individual and a guy
2117
01:55:08.840 --> 01:55:11.800
that wants perfection. And when I say he wants perfection,
2118
01:55:12.439 --> 01:55:15.079
I mean he gets angry with himself when he forgets
2119
01:55:15.159 --> 01:55:19.079
something that he's been working on. And when you got
2120
01:55:19.159 --> 01:55:21.720
in the back he was He's completely open to you
2121
01:55:21.880 --> 01:55:24.119
to go up and ask questions and to give you
2122
01:55:24.199 --> 01:55:28.520
an opinion, and it gives you your time. The wrestling
2123
01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:31.079
world is definitely going to be missing out of some
2124
01:55:31.199 --> 01:55:36.199
great matches with him not wrestling. He brings a sense
2125
01:55:36.279 --> 01:55:39.239
of realism to the ring that most guys can't even
2126
01:55:39.399 --> 01:55:42.880
capture in their whole career. When you walk out there,
2127
01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:45.119
you know that you know he's going to throw somebody
2128
01:55:45.159 --> 01:55:49.039
around them and be intense. He's got that ben Wah
2129
01:55:49.159 --> 01:55:54.359
intensity and I say that extremely positively, and that's something
2130
01:55:54.399 --> 01:56:00.319
that's missing from this business, that toughness, that intensity, that
2131
01:56:00.520 --> 01:56:03.439
man's man when he steps in the ring, you know
2132
01:56:03.439 --> 01:56:03.840
what I mean.
2133
01:56:04.960 --> 01:56:07.840
Yeah, I mean I've had the pleasure of watching him
2134
01:56:08.159 --> 01:56:11.399
wrestle in person, and uh yeah, he's uh you know
2135
01:56:11.680 --> 01:56:13.119
when he is at when he was at the top
2136
01:56:13.159 --> 01:56:17.199
of his game, there was nobody better. All right, Uh,
2137
01:56:17.600 --> 01:56:20.520
We're okay, We're at the end of our program. I
2138
01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:22.279
want to thank Trevor Murdoch for being on the show
2139
01:56:22.680 --> 01:56:26.960
Kansas City Pro Wrestling. The uh the uh in Lenxa
2140
01:56:27.039 --> 01:56:31.239
can in Lenexa, Kansas, Uh fans can fans can be
2141
01:56:31.319 --> 01:56:33.359
a part of it? Do you if you want to
2142
01:56:33.399 --> 01:56:36.960
train there? You email Casey Pro Wrestling Training at yahoo
2143
01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:40.319
dot com or call nine one three six four five
2144
01:56:40.399 --> 01:56:42.279
eight eight two six. Is there anything else I should
2145
01:56:42.319 --> 01:56:42.680
mention here?
2146
01:56:42.720 --> 01:56:46.520
Trevor if you guys can just hop on Facebook and
2147
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give Casey Pro Wrestling UH a like and make sure
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you go to Trevor Murdock dot com and uh give
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01:56:54.840 --> 01:56:56.960
that a checkout on the website as well too, and
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I'm also on Facebook under Trevor Murdoch.
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All right, Trevi, we really appreciate you being here, Thanks
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01:57:02.920 --> 01:57:04.880
for being on the program, and as always, thanks to
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01:57:04.960 --> 01:57:07.279
all of you the listeners. We love having you here.
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01:57:07.720 --> 01:57:10.560
Tune in tomorrow. Wade Keller will be doing his Thursday interview,
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01:57:11.039 --> 01:57:14.079
and then we have Bruce and Travis on Friday, Jim
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01:57:14.159 --> 01:57:17.079
Valley doing the Saturday Morning Wrestling Show, and you can
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go vip by hitting us up at PW Torch dot
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com slash go vip until next week. Everybody, keep your
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feet on the ground and keep shooting for the stars.
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Good night.
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Longing for some nostalgia or maybe you want to learn
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some wrestling history, don't miss the Nineties Past cast every
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Friday on the PW Torch Dailycast Feed. Alex and Patrick
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will transport you thirty years into the past by taking
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you through the Torch issue from that very week. Follow
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from across the wrestling industry in real time as The
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Torch reported it thirty years ago. That's the Nineties Pass
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cast every Friday on the PW Torch Daily Cast Feed.
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Every Back inside Studio b here on a Wednesday evening.
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Torch Commas Pat McNeil join us always on Wednesday. By
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Torch Assistant editor James Caldwell. This is the VIP after
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show for February third. James, how the heck are you hey?
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I'm doing okay, Pat?
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This program is a capit of production of PDH Communications
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attendance to look for the previous about Ansthinny rebroadcast. The
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consent of Waight Keller and Major League Baseball is prohibited.
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All right, let's check out our early results in the
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big poll of the seventy five fifth episode of Wayback Playback.
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01:58:49.880 --> 01:58:52.199
Episode seventy four will be posted on Sunday, just in
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01:58:52.279 --> 01:58:55.079
time for the Super Bowl. Right now, let's see how
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01:58:55.119 --> 01:58:58.840
we are doing. We get you'll hear how we came
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01:58:58.880 --> 01:59:01.560
to that list right now? It's a tie. Uh. Some
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01:59:01.680 --> 01:59:05.000
people want WrestleMania for some people want the Shytown Rumble
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01:59:05.079 --> 01:59:08.239
eighty nine. Uh. By the way, are prepared to go
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01:59:08.319 --> 01:59:11.359
across the country and smack anybody who votes for WrestleMania
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01:59:11.439 --> 01:59:14.039
for so just keep that in mind when you when
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you task a vote.
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01:59:15.359 --> 01:59:17.640
Yeah, I might need to tip the poll here and
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01:59:17.760 --> 01:59:19.760
put Shytown Rumble vote in, uh.
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01:59:19.800 --> 01:59:24.399
Yeah, or a vote for any of the other options
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01:59:24.439 --> 01:59:25.159
would be fine too.
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01:59:25.600 --> 01:59:30.520
But you know, yeah, WrestleMania for not exactly a band
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01:59:30.560 --> 01:59:30.920
or night.
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01:59:31.600 --> 01:59:34.239
Well more to the point that we did around table.
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01:59:34.279 --> 01:59:35.760
We have Bruce and Wade and I did a round
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01:59:35.800 --> 01:59:37.119
table on that one years ago.
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01:59:37.520 --> 01:59:40.159
I have submitted my vote for for Shytown Rumble, So.
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01:59:41.000 --> 01:59:43.399
No pressure, but yeah, yeah, you got everybody's got the
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01:59:43.439 --> 01:59:46.000
little world to vote, So yeah, you know it's on.
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01:59:46.239 --> 01:59:48.199
It's I mean, we only do one show a week.
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01:59:48.199 --> 01:59:49.680
It's one of those Oh yeah, I can't believe, you know,
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01:59:50.239 --> 01:59:51.880
Chaitown Rumbles one of those ones. I can't believe we
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01:59:52.000 --> 01:59:53.920
haven't done that. And it's going to be you know.
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01:59:54.079 --> 01:59:56.680
And I'm not saying the show didn't have its bad moments,
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01:59:56.760 --> 01:59:58.960
but we'll we'll talk about that. And given the opportunity.
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01:59:59.279 --> 02:00:01.800
It's not very Foundvalentine's Day. It's not a Valentine's Day
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02:00:01.880 --> 02:00:05.520
show though. Really all right, let's go ahead, James. What
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02:00:05.640 --> 02:00:07.840
stories are we following right now other than this one
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02:00:08.000 --> 02:00:09.319
on pw twrch dot com.
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02:00:11.239 --> 02:00:14.560
We've got impact viewership. I did a couple of updates
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02:00:14.600 --> 02:00:17.800
this afternoon. Kurt Angle is trying to figure out what
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02:00:17.840 --> 02:00:22.239
he's gonna do next with life. That's always interesting. And
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02:00:22.520 --> 02:00:25.039
Brett Hart had a big interview and talking a lot
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02:00:25.079 --> 02:00:28.479
about Owen art not in the Hall of Same and
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02:00:28.600 --> 02:00:33.319
some other topics, plus Michael Cole in the Weekly Interview
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02:00:33.399 --> 02:00:33.880
Pat and.
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02:00:35.800 --> 02:00:36.159
New Day.
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02:00:36.600 --> 02:00:38.439
Well, I think it's just to say a New Day
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02:00:38.479 --> 02:00:40.880
in the weekly Interview with Michael Cole and New Day
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02:00:40.920 --> 02:00:43.359
makes fun of Michael Cole for six minutes, so it
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02:00:43.479 --> 02:00:44.600
wasn't really much of an interview.
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02:00:46.319 --> 02:00:49.079
Okay, Well, let's see Brett talking about how we liked
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02:00:49.199 --> 02:00:52.720
dang Ol Brian and see him punk and yeah, that's
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02:00:52.760 --> 02:00:54.239
not where we're going. And he's a big fan of
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02:00:54.279 --> 02:00:55.520
Kevin Allen Smith. There you go.
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02:00:56.960 --> 02:01:00.640
Yeah, so those guys aren't getting in well Brian, Brian
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02:01:00.680 --> 02:01:06.840
and Pane never rushed for me again, but Punk's yeah,
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02:01:07.159 --> 02:01:10.199
yeah it Sally does. And then and then Owens is
2231
02:01:10.279 --> 02:01:12.159
you know, he's kind of slotted where he's slaughtering so.
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02:01:13.279 --> 02:01:16.840
Well that is unfortunate, but you know, I understand it though.
2233
02:01:17.680 --> 02:01:20.359
All right, let's see what other what other news were
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02:01:20.399 --> 02:01:23.319
the articles we have here? Yeah, raw writings down and
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02:01:23.520 --> 02:01:27.920
down pretty him pretty heavily. You know, having having the
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02:01:28.039 --> 02:01:29.960
Rock on the show kind of helps, doesn't it.
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02:01:30.680 --> 02:01:34.760
Yeah, this help the week after, that's for sure. Especially
2238
02:01:34.800 --> 02:01:38.079
the product is really as United scot on Monday. Patty
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02:01:38.840 --> 02:01:41.560
kind of soft right now, So that's nice of that.
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02:01:42.600 --> 02:01:42.800
Yeah.
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Uh, they pretty much lost all of the game from
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02:01:46.880 --> 02:01:49.520
from last week, so, I mean, like it was, it
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02:01:49.680 --> 02:01:51.680
was like the rumble didn't happen. They just were right
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02:01:51.720 --> 02:01:54.079
back to where they were before the rumble. H.
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02:01:54.600 --> 02:01:56.920
Well, well, here's something that I actually talked about briefly
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02:01:57.199 --> 02:02:00.920
with Trevor Murdoch Crime Times on TMS tmzs thing they're
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02:02:00.960 --> 02:02:03.279
ready to come back, and I I don't think, you know,
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02:02:03.520 --> 02:02:06.000
I don't think that gets put up. The TMZ obviously
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02:02:06.039 --> 02:02:08.119
has some sort of deal with WWE. I don't think
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02:02:08.159 --> 02:02:09.760
that gets put up unless there's something.
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02:02:09.600 --> 02:02:13.960
To it and the Tag Division needs some help, you know,
2252
02:02:14.199 --> 02:02:18.319
w kind of waste of the Dudley's and New Day
2253
02:02:18.399 --> 02:02:20.000
has no one to work with because it was so
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02:02:20.239 --> 02:02:22.920
so Yeah, yeah, I think that. You know, it's if
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02:02:22.960 --> 02:02:24.399
there's ever a good time to come back to the
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02:02:24.479 --> 02:02:25.760
Tag Team, right now is the time.
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02:02:26.800 --> 02:02:32.399
Okay, that's yeah, that's big blah blah blah Comcast earnings. Yeah,
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02:02:32.479 --> 02:02:33.439
Brett Hartz.
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02:02:36.039 --> 02:02:36.239
Don't.
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02:02:37.319 --> 02:02:38.039
Yeah, I'm sorry.
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02:02:38.119 --> 02:02:38.279
Go on.
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02:02:38.680 --> 02:02:40.159
Well, I was gonna say, Pat, you've got to make
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02:02:40.199 --> 02:02:43.039
man's of Donald Trump. And that's a story in the
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02:02:43.560 --> 02:02:45.600
East Coast newspapers today.
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02:02:45.760 --> 02:02:49.880
So uh they, I mean, Vincent donald Trump have been
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02:02:49.880 --> 02:02:50.520
friends for a while.
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02:02:51.319 --> 02:02:56.159
Yeah, and uh yeah, I mean if they want a
2268
02:02:56.439 --> 02:03:00.479
cost efficient way to get involved politically, I not not
2269
02:03:00.680 --> 02:03:03.039
paying or spending millions of dollars for Linda to run
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02:03:03.119 --> 02:03:05.880
for Senate. They can always help out Donald Trump, as
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02:03:06.920 --> 02:03:09.960
Linda has already donated two hundred thousand dollars to a
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02:03:10.079 --> 02:03:10.640
super pack.
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02:03:11.039 --> 02:03:12.880
I'm still waiting what here, what Trump's gonna be doing
2274
02:03:12.880 --> 02:03:17.079
at WrestleMania this year, And I'm not, well, I'm kind
2275
02:03:17.119 --> 02:03:18.760
of serious about that. I think, you know, I think
2276
02:03:18.840 --> 02:03:20.800
that's a I think that's a possibility.
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02:03:21.399 --> 02:03:25.119
Yeah, and he'll need uh you know, he'll need a platform,
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02:03:25.239 --> 02:03:26.800
and resume is a pretty big platform.
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02:03:27.000 --> 02:03:30.119
So let's see what other big news we have today.
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02:03:30.479 --> 02:03:32.399
I think I think those are the I think those
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02:03:32.439 --> 02:03:35.199
are the main stories. Impact slightly down and they and
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02:03:35.319 --> 02:03:37.720
they were, you know, they were climbing over the past
2283
02:03:37.760 --> 02:03:40.279
couple of weeks. So yeah, I mean I think maybe
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02:03:40.319 --> 02:03:42.560
if they had uh yeah, that's part of the problem
2285
02:03:42.600 --> 02:03:45.520
with impact. I think maybe if they if they advertise, Hey,
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02:03:45.880 --> 02:03:49.079
Matt Hardy defending title against Kurt Angle tonight. Hello, you
2287
02:03:49.159 --> 02:03:52.760
know hello, they just.
2288
02:03:52.760 --> 02:03:55.840
They just hotshot stuff, you know, They just they don't
2289
02:03:55.840 --> 02:03:58.000
advertise things in advance. They're just from one show to
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02:03:58.039 --> 02:03:59.560
the next. You don't know what they're actually gonna do,
2291
02:03:59.680 --> 02:04:02.880
and not in a good way. They you know, you're
2292
02:04:02.920 --> 02:04:05.199
your waist in a big match by not advertising it.
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02:04:05.880 --> 02:04:09.000
I would, unfortunately, I would agree with that. Yes, all right,
2294
02:04:09.279 --> 02:04:11.960
let's go ahead and hit the five things that James
2295
02:04:12.079 --> 02:04:16.079
might not know just for the heck of it. Okay, well,
2296
02:04:16.359 --> 02:04:18.800
let's let's go ahead and do a story number five.
2297
02:04:18.880 --> 02:04:20.680
I'm gonna skip the one that we work, but I
2298
02:04:20.800 --> 02:04:22.119
was putting up there, and do one that we were
2299
02:04:22.199 --> 02:04:23.920
talking about right before we get went on the air.
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02:04:24.960 --> 02:04:28.319
Something that we speculated about the Monday Live cast. AJ
2301
02:04:28.479 --> 02:04:33.039
Styles is doing house shows. Kids. They are not. They're not. Yeah,
2302
02:04:33.239 --> 02:04:36.479
anybody who's pretty much anybody a warm any warm body
2303
02:04:36.520 --> 02:04:38.279
that's been medically cleared, is going to get a chance
2304
02:04:38.319 --> 02:04:39.640
to work house shows in there. As I can tell.
2305
02:04:39.680 --> 02:04:42.880
It starts this Saturday, in San Jose. I believe with
2306
02:04:43.479 --> 02:04:46.359
AJ on the same show as mister brock Lesner, although
2307
02:04:46.680 --> 02:04:47.960
I don't think they're facing each other.
2308
02:04:48.800 --> 02:04:51.720
Well, no, that would sell tickets, but they have to
2309
02:04:51.720 --> 02:04:53.600
advertise that advance and then the.
2310
02:04:53.960 --> 02:04:56.520
Yeah, if they don't advertise that in advance, then your TNA.
2311
02:04:56.760 --> 02:05:01.760
So yeah, So AJ will be finishing dependents in Georgia
2312
02:05:01.880 --> 02:05:04.319
on Friday, and then I guess you're gonna fly. We'll
2313
02:05:04.359 --> 02:05:07.760
fly him out to San Jose on Saturdays. So he
2314
02:05:07.920 --> 02:05:10.439
begins the officially begins the new part of his career
2315
02:05:10.840 --> 02:05:15.800
on on Saturdays. So I'm curious who is in a
2316
02:05:15.880 --> 02:05:18.239
rest suit on Saturday that that should be fascinating. He's
2317
02:05:18.279 --> 02:05:23.600
wrestled with Jericho and Wrussell is on uh Tomorrow's backdown, So.
2318
02:05:23.720 --> 02:05:27.479
There's definitely no I see no, I see no problem
2319
02:05:27.520 --> 02:05:30.000
with him wrestling Jericho on the house shows. That's gonna
2320
02:05:30.119 --> 02:05:32.680
probably get some people in there who might ordinarily not
2321
02:05:32.800 --> 02:05:33.399
be in there, you know.
2322
02:05:34.399 --> 02:05:37.199
Yeah, And and that's acular match up to take her
2323
02:05:37.239 --> 02:05:38.920
to take around all these all these venues.
2324
02:05:39.000 --> 02:05:41.439
You know, it's the if they if they advertise.
2325
02:05:41.199 --> 02:05:44.439
Match, if they advertises exactly what, they.
2326
02:05:44.399 --> 02:05:46.680
Might not be Okay. So so's in San Jose. Let
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02:05:46.720 --> 02:05:48.760
me just yeah because I checked it. But he's on
2328
02:05:48.840 --> 02:05:50.520
a bunch of them. He's also on the March for
2329
02:05:50.520 --> 02:05:52.920
WrestleMania Special. I know that's the Shaker. I'm not coming
2330
02:05:53.000 --> 02:05:56.039
up in March, but yeah, a lot of a lot
2331
02:05:56.119 --> 02:05:59.439
of shows and you're gonna see Yeah, ajs Aj is
2332
02:05:59.520 --> 02:06:01.840
n now these He's not going to be held back
2333
02:06:01.960 --> 02:06:04.880
and they you know, they seem to be making room
2334
02:06:04.920 --> 02:06:07.600
for him on WW television. So we got that going
2335
02:06:07.640 --> 02:06:11.960
for us, which is nice. Yes. Story number four, James,
2336
02:06:12.039 --> 02:06:14.760
did you know that WW is bringing Rob back to
2337
02:06:14.920 --> 02:06:19.199
Philadelphia on Monday? I want to say Monday, March twenty. First,
2338
02:06:19.319 --> 02:06:22.000
that's Center Think us go on sale this Saturday. Triple H,
2339
02:06:22.119 --> 02:06:25.159
Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, and Seamous are advertised for this event.
2340
02:06:25.840 --> 02:06:28.560
I will point out that Rock, Lesnar and Undertaker are
2341
02:06:28.680 --> 02:06:33.359
not advertised for the show. M Yeah, not yet. I
2342
02:06:33.399 --> 02:06:38.880
would say, yeah, I imagine that's I imagine there's something
2343
02:06:38.920 --> 02:06:41.359
to do that to do with that. Yeah, should to
2344
02:06:41.439 --> 02:06:45.199
check that out. Okay. Story number three, James, I know
2345
02:06:45.359 --> 02:06:47.760
something that you've been looking forward to. They a turn
2346
02:06:47.840 --> 02:06:51.039
of heroes and legends and Indiana heroes and Legends six
2347
02:06:51.560 --> 02:06:53.720
is going to be taking place on and that will
2348
02:06:53.760 --> 02:06:57.760
be taking place Saturday, March the twenty sixth and Fort Wayne, Indiana. Yes,
2349
02:06:57.880 --> 02:07:01.479
on the same night you get to watch uh mister Anderson,
2350
02:07:02.199 --> 02:07:06.279
Billy Gunn, Saboo, Abyss, the rock and Roll Express all
2351
02:07:06.399 --> 02:07:09.560
taking out a bunch of Midwest nobody's in series of matches.
2352
02:07:10.239 --> 02:07:10.319
Uh.
2353
02:07:10.439 --> 02:07:12.600
The probably the big feature feature match on the show,
2354
02:07:12.600 --> 02:07:15.199
I would say, is Tatanka versus Congo Kong, which is
2355
02:07:15.239 --> 02:07:17.439
one of those one of those dream matches we often
2356
02:07:17.479 --> 02:07:21.560
talk about it. Yeah, be sure to set that out
2357
02:07:21.600 --> 02:07:22.840
if you're in the Fort Wayne area.
2358
02:07:24.399 --> 02:07:27.239
Uh, that's that's always one of those fastinate ones that
2359
02:07:27.399 --> 02:07:31.520
mix the legends of the nobodies and yeah, it's part
2360
02:07:31.560 --> 02:07:33.880
of the formula on the independence right.
2361
02:07:33.960 --> 02:07:36.199
But yeah, but usually, you know, usually try to have
2362
02:07:36.279 --> 02:07:38.159
something where you have a couple of names going against
2363
02:07:38.199 --> 02:07:40.319
each other. If you're bringing in all these guys, not
2364
02:07:40.600 --> 02:07:43.840
just you know, no, well, never mind, you know what
2365
02:07:43.880 --> 02:07:44.279
I'm saying.
2366
02:07:44.840 --> 02:07:48.479
Sure, sure at least one feature spectacular match.
2367
02:07:48.560 --> 02:07:48.760
Yeah.
2368
02:07:48.800 --> 02:07:50.800
Well, the whatever whoever there champ is is going to
2369
02:07:50.840 --> 02:07:53.399
be I'm guessing losing by this qualification to Abyss or
2370
02:07:53.439 --> 02:07:55.840
something like that, because that's the that's the other main event.
2371
02:07:55.920 --> 02:07:56.960
Abys goes to the title.
2372
02:07:57.680 --> 02:08:00.760
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02:08:00.800 --> 02:08:02.000
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02:08:32.079 --> 02:08:35.399
Okay, so we're down to short number two. What's going
2385
02:08:35.439 --> 02:08:37.279
on with the Russell Con. As you know, we talked
2386
02:08:37.279 --> 02:08:41.119
about it last week. Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, Katrina Fromlucha Underground,
2387
02:08:41.119 --> 02:08:43.039
Great Mood is going to be there. I want to
2388
02:08:43.039 --> 02:08:45.479
add a few more names to it. Why not? The
2389
02:08:45.680 --> 02:08:49.640
Jarretts Jeff and Karen Jarrett will be there, Ricky Morton,
2390
02:08:49.680 --> 02:08:51.760
Robert Gibbson, The Rock and Roll Express will also be
2391
02:08:51.880 --> 02:08:54.680
at Russell Con. They've got a busy Uh, they've got
2392
02:08:54.720 --> 02:08:56.880
a busy spring ahead of them. Eve Torres, I know
2393
02:08:57.079 --> 02:09:01.479
you remember her from WWE will be there. Van dam Uh,
2394
02:09:02.399 --> 02:09:05.359
the Outsiders Scott Hall and Kevin Nash of course, and
2395
02:09:05.560 --> 02:09:08.079
the Dallas Check Cowboy cheerleaders will be at Russell KHN.
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02:09:08.479 --> 02:09:13.079
So that's it's getting it's getting stacked up and we'll
2397
02:09:13.119 --> 02:09:15.279
have obviously more will be there in the weeks to come.
2398
02:09:15.319 --> 02:09:17.560
But that's uh, that's one that Wade Wade can go
2399
02:09:17.600 --> 02:09:19.119
ahead and send the plane tickets for that. I'll be
2400
02:09:19.359 --> 02:09:21.479
happy to I'll be happy to jump down there and
2401
02:09:21.800 --> 02:09:23.720
hang out with you in Texas well.
2402
02:09:24.000 --> 02:09:26.239
I'm surprised that they would have made a w B
2403
02:09:26.439 --> 02:09:30.439
function unless they're doing w B and non w W
2404
02:09:30.600 --> 02:09:35.319
functions that weekend. That's yeah, just because of the AT
2405
02:09:35.439 --> 02:09:37.279
and T Stadium connection with.
2406
02:09:38.119 --> 02:09:40.960
I don't know, I think they're allowed to take uh
2407
02:09:41.079 --> 02:09:43.560
you know it's not football allow Yeah, I think they're
2408
02:09:43.560 --> 02:09:47.720
allowed to take any bookings all right. And story number one, Yes,
2409
02:09:47.800 --> 02:09:50.520
we have more information about this year's Wreussell Con Super Show.
2410
02:09:50.680 --> 02:09:50.800
Uh.
2411
02:09:51.279 --> 02:09:53.399
The two big British stars that everybody's been talking about
2412
02:09:53.399 --> 02:09:56.159
will Osbrey and Marty Scull. They'll be facing off against
2413
02:09:56.199 --> 02:09:59.119
each other. I'll need wrestle con Super Show also just
2414
02:09:59.199 --> 02:10:02.720
announced a big like last year, a big ten man tag.
2415
02:10:03.760 --> 02:10:05.920
The captains will pick teams, and the team captains this
2416
02:10:06.079 --> 02:10:08.399
year are Jeff Jarrett and Joey Ryan.
2417
02:10:09.000 --> 02:10:13.359
So those are interesting captains.
2418
02:10:13.399 --> 02:10:17.399
But yes, I I'm not even gonna speculate as to
2419
02:10:17.439 --> 02:10:19.279
what the numbers of Joey Ryan's team will have in common.
2420
02:10:19.840 --> 02:10:25.319
Oh gosh, yeah, okay, And speaking.
2421
02:10:25.000 --> 02:10:27.279
Of the big names, next Wednesday in the program, if
2422
02:10:27.319 --> 02:10:30.960
you watched Impact, you saw him. He's back, He's ten,
2423
02:10:31.079 --> 02:10:34.760
restled and ready. Hurricane Helms returns to the program on Wednesday,
2424
02:10:34.760 --> 02:10:36.840
and I'm sure we'll be talking about next week's big
2425
02:10:36.920 --> 02:10:38.800
episode of Impact. So we got that going for us
2426
02:10:38.800 --> 02:10:41.520
here on PW twitch dot com because.
2427
02:10:41.319 --> 02:10:45.319
Next week kicks off the UK episodes, right, Yes.
2428
02:10:45.239 --> 02:10:47.600
Actually, yes, we will talk about that. But yeah, I
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02:10:47.680 --> 02:10:51.319
believe the first of the UK episodes next week, I
2430
02:10:51.840 --> 02:10:55.000
still can't believe. While I shouldn't be too surprised, I
2431
02:10:55.079 --> 02:10:57.680
can't believe they went over there and they take three
2432
02:10:57.800 --> 02:10:59.840
one night only is and I guess three up the
2433
02:11:00.079 --> 02:11:01.119
three episodes of Impact.
2434
02:11:02.800 --> 02:11:03.560
Well it's DNA.
2435
02:11:03.920 --> 02:11:06.520
That's okay.
2436
02:11:06.640 --> 02:11:08.880
Well, well, I guess they got there. I guess I
2437
02:11:08.920 --> 02:11:10.520
guess they did get there one night, onis out of.
2438
02:11:10.520 --> 02:11:13.399
The way, you know, for the entire year. They done
2439
02:11:13.439 --> 02:11:13.960
for the whole year.
2440
02:11:14.079 --> 02:11:16.319
No, I think they're No, I think they only got
2441
02:11:16.560 --> 02:11:18.800
I don't know. I'm gonna have to go back and
2442
02:11:18.840 --> 02:11:22.039
pull this up. I know they got March done, and
2443
02:11:22.199 --> 02:11:23.920
I don't know when they're doing pay per views anyway.
2444
02:11:24.199 --> 02:11:25.960
I think I think they're onto something with this whole
2445
02:11:26.239 --> 02:11:30.479
cheaper Friday night pay per view type show deal. Yeah,
2446
02:11:30.760 --> 02:11:32.600
how many people I don't know how many people ordered
2447
02:11:32.680 --> 02:11:35.279
last month, but I'm guessing they lost less money than
2448
02:11:35.319 --> 02:11:36.640
they have on previous DNA.
2449
02:11:36.479 --> 02:11:38.840
Pay per views, so that that's a boutus.
2450
02:11:39.039 --> 02:11:41.560
Yeah, so they got that going for them, which is nice.
2451
02:11:43.680 --> 02:11:43.800
Now.
2452
02:11:43.920 --> 02:11:46.920
Thing to move some of that merchandise in the chopna.
2453
02:11:47.760 --> 02:11:50.039
Well, they're doing their best to the move. But everything
2454
02:11:50.159 --> 02:11:56.399
must go right, Okay. Anyway, how are mister and missus
2455
02:11:56.439 --> 02:11:57.760
vesting and all the ships to see? This is your
2456
02:11:57.760 --> 02:12:01.800
Paptwich Live event center for Wednesday third? All right? Where
2457
02:12:01.840 --> 02:12:06.319
to begin? James Tonight on the WWE Network, It is
2458
02:12:06.399 --> 02:12:08.640
going to be, uh, gonna be a big episode of
2459
02:12:08.840 --> 02:12:11.800
n x T. Let's see big matches on that show.
2460
02:12:11.920 --> 02:12:15.560
Carmelo will be taking on Emma in a ladies battle,
2461
02:12:16.079 --> 02:12:19.520
and your main event, non title big rematch Finn balor
2462
02:12:19.600 --> 02:12:20.399
Apollo Cruise.
2463
02:12:21.479 --> 02:12:24.439
That's a good I'm looking forward to that. So I
2464
02:12:24.600 --> 02:12:27.399
assume that Baron Corbyn would not be interfering this time around.
2465
02:12:27.680 --> 02:12:30.800
But well I'm not assuming that, but I'm trying not to.
2466
02:12:31.720 --> 02:12:34.479
I'm trying not to look, you know, I'm trying to
2467
02:12:34.720 --> 02:12:37.319
look too many spoilers. Let's just go with that.
2468
02:12:38.079 --> 02:12:39.600
Let's have a good, clean match, guys.
2469
02:12:40.279 --> 02:12:44.640
Yeah, that would be. That would be something. Let's see. Also, Okay,
2470
02:12:44.720 --> 02:12:47.640
also tonight, I believe Rockstar Pro is hitting is hitting
2471
02:12:47.640 --> 02:12:51.600
a beautiful dayton Ohio. Yes, they are tonight coming up
2472
02:12:51.640 --> 02:12:54.680
in oh I don't know an hour from now, So
2473
02:12:55.560 --> 02:12:58.039
go check that out. Your main event Sammy Callahan versus
2474
02:12:58.119 --> 02:13:03.359
Alex Cologne from from Combat Zone Fame. So yeah, that's great.
2475
02:13:03.800 --> 02:13:06.079
Also on the show, James, I think you'll appreciate this
2476
02:13:06.239 --> 02:13:08.680
Popino Joe. Apparently he's a wrestler.
2477
02:13:10.159 --> 02:13:12.399
Popa Joe. That sounds like a restaurant.
2478
02:13:13.279 --> 02:13:16.600
Yeah, yeah, sounds like it sounds like a crab house.
2479
02:13:16.600 --> 02:13:18.199
You know, you get you get your seafood, and then
2480
02:13:18.199 --> 02:13:21.199
you go to Pomp's. I'm thinking of Joe.
2481
02:13:21.680 --> 02:13:22.760
You can think we're both hungry.
2482
02:13:23.600 --> 02:13:26.159
I think that's probably right. Also, Combat Zone does their
2483
02:13:26.159 --> 02:13:29.279
student show tonight. Blah blah blah. Okay, moving on Looke
2484
02:13:29.359 --> 02:13:33.159
j Underground on the old Ay Yay Kill Shot'll be
2485
02:13:33.239 --> 02:13:35.720
taking on Johnny Mundo and in the main event it's
2486
02:13:35.800 --> 02:13:39.359
Pentagon and Puma in a handicapped match against the Disciples
2487
02:13:39.399 --> 02:13:44.000
of Death. That sounds dangerous, yes.
2488
02:13:43.920 --> 02:13:44.720
Slightly dangerous.
2489
02:13:45.039 --> 02:13:48.399
Week two, let's see what they've got a new season.
2490
02:13:49.119 --> 02:13:56.279
Yeah, I think that'll be fun. Maybe. Okay, what else
2491
02:13:56.359 --> 02:14:00.119
we have here? Of course? Tonight Ring about it on
2492
02:14:00.239 --> 02:14:03.760
Fast Acting Comments, Roderick Strong defending the TV title against
2493
02:14:03.760 --> 02:14:06.640
the Masada and the Big J Lethal and Adam Cole
2494
02:14:06.640 --> 02:14:08.279
against Red Dragon tag team match.
2495
02:14:10.479 --> 02:14:11.880
Yeah you got a that's the.
2496
02:14:11.920 --> 02:14:15.199
R Ring and Winter title. Uh situation with Lethal and
2497
02:14:15.920 --> 02:14:21.479
and Cole and O'Reilly. So yeah, I'm sure there'll be
2498
02:14:21.560 --> 02:14:23.199
no shortage of drama in that tag match.
2499
02:14:23.880 --> 02:14:28.439
Absolutely not. Okay, there we go. Let's see what else
2500
02:14:28.479 --> 02:14:31.279
we have here? Oh yeah, w W SmackDown tomorrow on
2501
02:14:31.399 --> 02:14:34.960
the USA Network from Memphis, Tennessee. Aj Styles versus The
2502
02:14:35.039 --> 02:14:39.000
Mis Roman Reigns versus Russeth. No spoilers from me. These
2503
02:14:39.039 --> 02:14:40.920
are the same matches you knew about. They didn't change
2504
02:14:40.920 --> 02:14:42.560
any of the matches that they announced them wrong.
2505
02:14:43.199 --> 02:14:47.239
Yeah, they have it consistent, maybe put a little bit
2506
02:14:47.239 --> 02:14:49.840
more thought in the SmackDown, and now it's on USA Networks.
2507
02:14:49.880 --> 02:14:53.479
That's good. We're not just changing the match, you know,
2508
02:14:53.600 --> 02:14:57.159
left and right from Monday to Tuesday's taping. That's that's
2509
02:14:57.239 --> 02:14:59.439
kind of nice to see what the advertising Monday is
2510
02:14:59.479 --> 02:15:00.720
actually gonna have on Thursday.
2511
02:15:01.600 --> 02:15:02.600
Yeah, I like it.
2512
02:15:03.199 --> 02:15:03.319
Oh.
2513
02:15:03.439 --> 02:15:07.239
This Friday, Rockstar Pro and Dayton has their fourth anniversary spectacular.
2514
02:15:08.239 --> 02:15:13.079
The Armageddon Games Champion Ron Mathis leads his team against
2515
02:15:13.119 --> 02:15:16.239
Sammy Callahan's team that might there might be some violence
2516
02:15:16.279 --> 02:15:19.119
in that somewhere. Plus Jake Cris versus Dave Chris and
2517
02:15:19.199 --> 02:15:21.920
the I don't know Battle of in the Battle of
2518
02:15:22.199 --> 02:15:25.439
the Chris. I don't think Ruth Chris will get involved
2519
02:15:25.479 --> 02:15:25.840
in this one.
2520
02:15:27.079 --> 02:15:30.399
We're definitely hungry. I guess this should not be confused
2521
02:15:30.439 --> 02:15:31.479
as war games, right.
2522
02:15:31.439 --> 02:15:35.920
Pat, This is game No, it's Armageddon Games, completely different games.
2523
02:15:36.159 --> 02:15:37.880
There are weapons in it. It's kind of actually that
2524
02:15:37.960 --> 02:15:41.199
sounds more like lethal lockdown, but that's obviously something different
2525
02:15:41.319 --> 02:15:45.840
as well. Of course it is because those are all trademarked.
2526
02:15:45.840 --> 02:15:51.720
To say, yeah, okay, I should check to make sure. Yes, yes,
2527
02:15:52.039 --> 02:15:57.439
WWE Superstars is Friday on the WW network, James, We've
2528
02:15:57.479 --> 02:16:00.279
been waiting all week for Friday Night and Superstars. What's
2529
02:16:00.319 --> 02:16:00.760
it gonna be?
2530
02:16:02.199 --> 02:16:04.079
Let me see, let me, let me see. We got
2531
02:16:04.199 --> 02:16:09.079
a report it was I'm gonna go back. I gotta
2532
02:16:09.079 --> 02:16:15.520
I gotta picture it, Pat, I gotta picture it. I
2533
02:16:16.119 --> 02:16:19.439
completely drawn. Uh, the essential is in a match. I
2534
02:16:19.439 --> 02:16:24.119
don't think it was a main event though, I don't
2535
02:16:24.119 --> 02:16:25.359
remember the singles match, Pat.
2536
02:16:26.279 --> 02:16:29.439
The main map of Superstars is Zach Ryder versus Stardust
2537
02:16:29.439 --> 02:16:33.000
State match, but obviously obviously a pivotal match in the
2538
02:16:33.600 --> 02:16:34.479
ww universe.
2539
02:16:34.959 --> 02:16:36.159
Okay, that's why I don't remember it.
2540
02:16:36.719 --> 02:16:39.600
Yeah, I believe me. I understand why you don't remember it.
2541
02:16:39.920 --> 02:16:40.360
That's fine.
2542
02:16:40.399 --> 02:16:42.079
Yeah, let's see.
2543
02:16:42.120 --> 02:16:43.879
What's the ascensions match? Are they in the match?
2544
02:16:44.000 --> 02:16:44.399
Tech matic?
2545
02:16:44.559 --> 02:16:47.120
I now, and now I'm gonna have to look right, well,
2546
02:16:47.200 --> 02:16:50.360
I'll look at it. Yeah, Actually, I think I think
2547
02:16:50.440 --> 02:16:52.200
they are. I think they're getting I think that I
2548
02:16:52.239 --> 02:16:56.600
think they're working Swagger and Henry again, and you are correct.
2549
02:16:56.719 --> 02:16:57.799
Yes, that is right.
2550
02:16:58.639 --> 02:17:02.040
That sounded familiar. All right, good deal. Then of course
2551
02:17:02.079 --> 02:17:04.879
you have w W main Event on Hulu Plus and
2552
02:17:04.879 --> 02:17:08.319
Sports and at three sixty this Friday. Speaking of speaking
2553
02:17:08.360 --> 02:17:10.600
of big matchups, we have an eight man tag on
2554
02:17:10.840 --> 02:17:13.280
we main event, James. It will be the usso's teaming
2555
02:17:13.360 --> 02:17:17.399
with the Primetime players against the Cosmic Wasteland and Tyler Breeze.
2556
02:17:18.440 --> 02:17:19.040
That's one match.
2557
02:17:19.200 --> 02:17:21.840
So it is definitely the decision to start this week
2558
02:17:21.959 --> 02:17:23.879
on on the few level.
2559
02:17:24.319 --> 02:17:26.760
At the Cosmic Wasteland time plus the main event on
2560
02:17:26.879 --> 02:17:30.159
main Event, Tage and Italia team up against Team Bad
2561
02:17:30.360 --> 02:17:32.120
of Naomi and Tamina.
2562
02:17:35.719 --> 02:17:39.440
That division is so up and down it's like, I'm.
2563
02:17:39.319 --> 02:17:41.079
Just gonna stip it. I am not making this up.
2564
02:17:42.760 --> 02:17:46.879
That's all the people need to know. I'm all right.
2565
02:17:47.239 --> 02:17:50.159
This Friday in San Antonio, it's River City. No, Actually,
2566
02:17:50.200 --> 02:17:52.760
let's go ahead and let's move on. There've got NXT
2567
02:17:53.040 --> 02:17:56.040
on Tour, The A Show. The NXT A Show is Thursday,
2568
02:17:56.079 --> 02:18:00.760
Friday Saturday, hitting Memphis, Nashville, and Indianapolis. Finn Hour Bailey,
2569
02:18:00.840 --> 02:18:03.520
Samoa Joe Sparren Corban blah blah blah blah blah blah
2570
02:18:03.559 --> 02:18:07.399
blah blah blah. Yeah, actually that's kind of weird, James.
2571
02:18:07.799 --> 02:18:10.760
You just had smack Down on Tuesday in Memphis, and
2572
02:18:10.799 --> 02:18:14.239
now you're gonna have NXC there tomorrow, and somebody's got
2573
02:18:14.319 --> 02:18:16.239
to tell us, uh, which show draws better?
2574
02:18:18.840 --> 02:18:21.760
Well, obviously, I mean well smack I guess I shouldn't
2575
02:18:21.760 --> 02:18:24.559
say obviously it smacked on tapings or sometimes not that
2576
02:18:24.639 --> 02:18:28.559
well attended. But you would assume that with them, Yeah,
2577
02:18:28.559 --> 02:18:31.879
an NXC, it's the smaller I don't even I can't
2578
02:18:31.879 --> 02:18:34.239
remember the name of the building whatever, the building is
2579
02:18:34.520 --> 02:18:36.920
the smaller venue that you would assume that FedEx formed
2580
02:18:36.959 --> 02:18:38.680
the still out to draw the NX show.
2581
02:18:38.719 --> 02:18:41.360
But yes, you would think if you if.
2582
02:18:41.319 --> 02:18:44.879
You put if you put both shows and FedEx Forum
2583
02:18:45.479 --> 02:18:47.319
put a smacked on taping on Tuesday, and then if
2584
02:18:47.360 --> 02:18:50.319
you loaded up n XT on a Thursday, I'd be
2585
02:18:50.440 --> 02:18:52.680
curious what the difference of being the draw. I'd be
2586
02:18:52.840 --> 02:18:53.760
very curious about.
2587
02:18:53.520 --> 02:18:57.360
That, as would I. I would also be very curious about.
2588
02:18:57.159 --> 02:18:58.440
That I should have done that.
2589
02:18:59.280 --> 02:19:04.520
Okay, well let's see what we have here. Oh yes, Uh,
2590
02:19:04.680 --> 02:19:07.120
then of course the NXTV show Friday in Lakeland, Florida,
2591
02:19:07.559 --> 02:19:11.079
Saturday in Bartow, Florida. The Hype Brothers of BOD Villains
2592
02:19:11.159 --> 02:19:13.000
Osca and Emma will be there unless they're not.
2593
02:19:14.399 --> 02:19:17.079
Which was the case last weekend when Hype Brothers were.
2594
02:19:19.280 --> 02:19:19.520
Shows.
2595
02:19:19.559 --> 02:19:21.239
They got said to the main roster tour.
2596
02:19:21.280 --> 02:19:22.719
And and I think I didn't. I don't remember the
2597
02:19:22.799 --> 02:19:24.319
vod villains being out there either, So.
2598
02:19:25.879 --> 02:19:26.840
What were they doing.
2599
02:19:27.760 --> 02:19:29.959
I'd have to go back and read Greg's report he was.
2600
02:19:30.000 --> 02:19:33.680
Live over the week they had. They have the well,
2601
02:19:33.719 --> 02:19:34.959
Oscar and Emma was the main event.
2602
02:19:35.040 --> 02:19:36.239
Obviously that was the main event.
2603
02:19:36.360 --> 02:19:41.799
Yep, Okay, then I got that going for us. Don't
2604
02:19:41.840 --> 02:19:44.879
forget hey purview this Friday p and A one, not
2605
02:19:45.040 --> 02:19:49.600
only the February version, as they present Rivals to Electric Boogaloo.
2606
02:19:49.680 --> 02:19:51.479
I may have made part of that name upside, but
2607
02:19:52.239 --> 02:19:54.280
on that program, as we talked about, it will be
2608
02:19:54.719 --> 02:19:56.920
on Rivals too. It will be Davey Richards versus Eddie
2609
02:19:57.000 --> 02:19:59.719
Edwards and of course Matt Hardy versus Ethan Carter. The
2610
02:19:59.760 --> 02:20:01.680
third the match you've all been waiting.
2611
02:20:01.479 --> 02:20:04.760
For pay per view matches.
2612
02:20:04.520 --> 02:20:07.079
That's only on Tenna's one. Not only pay per view.
2613
02:20:08.360 --> 02:20:10.760
And again on probably that future one too.
2614
02:20:10.920 --> 02:20:14.959
Yes, yes, apparent and also apparently the March one not
2615
02:20:15.120 --> 02:20:17.360
only pay per view will have been taped in three
2616
02:20:17.399 --> 02:20:22.360
different buildings, the in Bethlehem, London and Birmingham. That won't
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02:20:22.399 --> 02:20:22.840
be awkward.
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02:20:25.920 --> 02:20:28.799
I assume Matthews and popably in the studio for that broadcast.
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02:20:28.920 --> 02:20:32.280
Yeah, one would expect. Yes, we'll find out.
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02:20:37.280 --> 02:20:40.799
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02:20:43.159 --> 02:20:45.159
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02:21:05.120 --> 02:21:07.120
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02:21:09.040 --> 02:21:11.479
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2639
02:21:21.959 --> 02:21:24.360
Actually, Chris, I think we stick pretty much to wrestling.
2640
02:21:24.559 --> 02:21:26.840
No, I mean Beyond Wrestling out of Wooster, oh right.
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02:21:27.120 --> 02:21:29.639
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Okay, River sidewhere else Bring this Friday in San Antonio.
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02:21:54.680 --> 02:21:56.760
There having a big show this weekend at a eight
2649
02:21:56.840 --> 02:21:59.799
man tag It'll be Hernandoz, Body Star Joey Spectro and
2650
02:21:59.840 --> 02:22:02.680
the Ile of Doom against Benny Babo, Jack Delfino, Cody
2651
02:22:02.760 --> 02:22:06.680
Crash and Ali Kat And in the main event, Alic
2652
02:22:06.719 --> 02:22:08.639
Snow goes one on one with Paul Titan.
2653
02:22:09.959 --> 02:22:13.399
Who's Paul Titans, I don't know.
2654
02:22:13.799 --> 02:22:16.440
He's apparently somebody who wrestles for River City wrestling.
2655
02:22:19.200 --> 02:22:22.479
I'm curious about this that you're he's not.
2656
02:22:22.559 --> 02:22:23.719
Just Titan, he has a first name.
2657
02:22:24.440 --> 02:22:24.639
Yeah.
2658
02:22:25.079 --> 02:22:25.680
I go back to.
2659
02:22:27.840 --> 02:22:31.920
Eleven years ago when Trighton he introduced a character named
2660
02:22:31.959 --> 02:22:33.639
Titan who is feed with Kevin Nash.
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02:22:33.639 --> 02:22:35.360
You know the height thing, and.
2662
02:22:37.479 --> 02:22:38.840
I'm doubting this is the same guy.
2663
02:22:38.920 --> 02:22:41.799
For some reason, he's resurfaced all these years later with
2664
02:22:41.879 --> 02:22:42.360
the first name.
2665
02:22:42.479 --> 02:22:47.879
Yes, Okay, Well, we'll find out as we go forward,
2666
02:22:47.959 --> 02:22:49.680
as we always do. Ring him on it on sim
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02:22:49.760 --> 02:22:52.959
clairebat Broadcast Group Television this weekend, the War Machine defends
2668
02:22:52.959 --> 02:22:54.959
the r H titles against the All Night Express. Check
2669
02:22:54.959 --> 02:22:59.600
your local listenings and that'll be fun. Uh w w's
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02:22:59.639 --> 02:23:05.200
by this Friday, Calgary, this Saturday, Penticton, British Columbia. It
2671
02:23:05.360 --> 02:23:07.319
looks like, as best as I can piece together, the
2672
02:23:07.360 --> 02:23:09.040
lineup is supposed to be Caane and the w Boys
2673
02:23:09.079 --> 02:23:11.719
against the Wyatt family and the main event of Dean
2674
02:23:11.760 --> 02:23:13.479
Ambrose versus Bray Wyatt.
2675
02:23:15.280 --> 02:23:19.799
Well, Dean and Brave Well, gosh did they progressed each
2676
02:23:19.799 --> 02:23:21.600
other twenty five thousand times by now?
2677
02:23:21.760 --> 02:23:23.559
So I'm guessing guess Kevin.
2678
02:23:25.079 --> 02:23:28.200
This year, Yeah, they're gonna figure how to match up
2679
02:23:28.200 --> 02:23:31.200
some of these guys together. So yeah, they just talked
2680
02:23:31.200 --> 02:23:32.639
about the stars available.
2681
02:23:32.959 --> 02:23:37.280
All right, Uh, the WWA show Saturday, San Jose Sunday
2682
02:23:37.440 --> 02:23:42.799
and Beautiful Abbotsford, British Columbia. Looks like the Saturday show
2683
02:23:42.799 --> 02:23:45.600
will be brack Lesnar versus Alberta Del Rio and the
2684
02:23:45.680 --> 02:23:48.040
Sunday show is supposed to be Dolph Zigler versus Alberto
2685
02:23:48.120 --> 02:23:51.239
Del Rio and Roman Reigns versus Seamus is the announced
2686
02:23:51.280 --> 02:23:54.159
main event. No telling whether that's going to happen.
2687
02:23:54.200 --> 02:24:00.000
Actually, yeah, especially injuries and things like that, and yeah,
2688
02:24:00.280 --> 02:24:01.520
I mean he hurt obviously.
2689
02:24:02.319 --> 02:24:05.559
Yeah, well, you know, God forbid, they pulled God forbid,
2690
02:24:05.559 --> 02:24:07.479
they announced it and and injured wrestler is not going
2691
02:24:07.559 --> 02:24:12.760
to make it to the show. But they've they've also
2692
02:24:12.840 --> 02:24:15.959
been very sparse in the details of who's actually wrestling
2693
02:24:16.000 --> 02:24:17.920
home on the shows for but I guess there are
2694
02:24:17.920 --> 02:24:18.600
obvious reasons.
2695
02:24:18.639 --> 02:24:20.879
Now, yeah, yeah, that might be a.
2696
02:24:22.520 --> 02:24:24.879
Mak Okay, I'm looking at the w W website. I'm
2697
02:24:24.879 --> 02:24:27.280
going to guess that where where it says Roman Rains
2698
02:24:27.360 --> 02:24:29.440
versus Shamous, you can go ahead and put Roman Rains
2699
02:24:29.479 --> 02:24:30.280
versus Ruce seven.
2700
02:24:30.959 --> 02:24:33.000
Yeah, I think that's what I did last weekend too.
2701
02:24:33.120 --> 02:24:36.399
That makes sense, So there you go. That's that's good stuff.
2702
02:24:36.479 --> 02:24:40.200
All right. Let's see r H television taping this Saturday
2703
02:24:40.239 --> 02:24:43.440
in Nashville, Tennessee. Well right on the heels of NXT
2704
02:24:43.600 --> 02:24:49.799
being there Saturday. Adam Cole versus Matt Sidel and the
2705
02:24:49.879 --> 02:24:51.719
Briskoes taking on Alex Shelley.
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02:24:51.520 --> 02:24:52.120
And a h.
2707
02:24:52.239 --> 02:24:54.760
Those are the announced matches. There's also supposed to be
2708
02:24:54.799 --> 02:24:56.120
some sort of tag team goallet match.
2709
02:24:57.600 --> 02:25:01.000
Yeah, they've announced three of the seven for the seven
2710
02:25:01.120 --> 02:25:06.879
tag teams for that, so you know, no Rush yeah.
2711
02:25:07.399 --> 02:25:07.520
Uh.
2712
02:25:07.680 --> 02:25:10.920
The mystery team mixed out is you know your City
2713
02:25:10.959 --> 02:25:13.879
Bruiser and Silas. Sure so.
2714
02:25:14.040 --> 02:25:16.399
Actually I think they're actually scheduled for a match against
2715
02:25:16.639 --> 02:25:18.479
Dalton Castle's boys, so.
2716
02:25:18.520 --> 02:25:20.280
That should be a warm up for the Garblet, right
2717
02:25:20.399 --> 02:25:22.239
you know that suld be Yeah, pretty decisive match.
2718
02:25:22.399 --> 02:25:24.559
Maybe the winning team qualifies for the Garnlet. I don't
2719
02:25:24.559 --> 02:25:25.200
tell you, ah.
2720
02:25:25.280 --> 02:25:28.200
Now now we're putting our booking cap on pat as lux.
2721
02:25:28.120 --> 02:25:33.239
Luger would say, I don't know anyway, dreamway of wrestling
2722
02:25:33.280 --> 02:25:37.159
this Saturday and left down. I'm not getting ahead of myselfie.
2723
02:25:37.280 --> 02:25:39.440
Yeah it might be okay, let me get back to
2724
02:25:39.479 --> 02:25:42.360
that here, Actually Chaka has National Pro Wrestling Day This
2725
02:25:42.360 --> 02:25:46.000
Saturday in Reading, Pennsylvania, Dasher Hatfield will take on Missile
2726
02:25:46.040 --> 02:25:48.840
Assault Man, who apparently is no longer an ant. And
2727
02:25:49.000 --> 02:25:52.319
in the main event, Princess Kimberly, who is the Chaka
2728
02:25:52.559 --> 02:25:54.200
Strand Champion against Mickey James.
2729
02:25:55.399 --> 02:25:58.239
That's a significant medimn. That's a that's a pretty good
2730
02:25:58.239 --> 02:26:02.000
match to see. In writing, Tayes, I.
2731
02:26:02.000 --> 02:26:05.520
Would ask the main event any building in Reading on Saturday, Actually,
2732
02:26:05.920 --> 02:26:09.639
Greenway of Wrestling This Saturday in LaSalle, Illinois, ar Fox
2733
02:26:09.680 --> 02:26:13.479
battles Sammy Callahan for the alternative title. If you've seen
2734
02:26:13.520 --> 02:26:16.479
any of their matches and evolved in dragon Gate USA,
2735
02:26:17.040 --> 02:26:21.079
that was Yeah, that's fun stuff and it is into
2736
02:26:21.120 --> 02:26:24.760
your main event. Christian Rose defending the Dreamwave title against
2737
02:26:24.799 --> 02:26:26.719
Abyss in a monstrous ball match.
2738
02:26:27.600 --> 02:26:30.239
But I think you got RVD on that show too.
2739
02:26:30.440 --> 02:26:33.040
I don't know if you'll wrestle, but he's.
2740
02:26:33.200 --> 02:26:37.479
He's at that's a good point. Okay, we'll see what
2741
02:26:37.559 --> 02:26:44.520
happens that all right? Okay. Meanwhile, PCW is in Harper's Perry, West,
2742
02:26:44.559 --> 02:26:47.719
Virginia this Saturday for their big show. Kevin Thorne takes
2743
02:26:47.799 --> 02:26:51.079
on Alexander James and the main event it will be
2744
02:26:51.200 --> 02:26:53.000
Shane Douglas against Doug Delicious.
2745
02:26:56.079 --> 02:26:59.760
Uh that sounds interesting, Yes it does.
2746
02:27:00.479 --> 02:27:00.600
Uh?
2747
02:27:01.200 --> 02:27:04.079
Okay uh. And of course we get to the u
2748
02:27:04.239 --> 02:27:06.600
w A is in Toronto this Sunday for the big
2749
02:27:06.680 --> 02:27:10.280
pre super Bowl show. It'll be Cheach Martinez against Jonathan
2750
02:27:10.360 --> 02:27:13.680
Gresham and the main event Colin Delaney versus Lionel Lionel
2751
02:27:13.879 --> 02:27:16.879
Knight in a loser leaves u w A matchup.
2752
02:27:18.399 --> 02:27:18.879
Interesting.
2753
02:27:19.079 --> 02:27:21.600
Okay, are there any other big NDI shows that I'm
2754
02:27:21.600 --> 02:27:22.760
missing before we continue this?
2755
02:27:23.600 --> 02:27:27.239
Uh, Chikara, Dreamway, Rock star Ring of Honor Nuts. Those
2756
02:27:27.239 --> 02:27:29.760
are the big ones that I got listed. So I
2757
02:27:29.840 --> 02:27:33.319
know there's a lot next weekend, but not a lot
2758
02:27:33.360 --> 02:27:36.239
of people running because of the super Bowl weekend. So
2759
02:27:36.799 --> 02:27:37.719
I think we need the big ones.
2760
02:27:37.760 --> 02:27:40.799
Pat Well and w W is running, but they're running
2761
02:27:40.840 --> 02:27:43.079
in Canada, so yeah, of course they would.
2762
02:27:43.760 --> 02:27:46.120
That makes sense because because no one's that come to
2763
02:27:46.159 --> 02:27:48.680
see live Rusted in the US on Super Bowl Sunday.
2764
02:27:49.000 --> 02:27:51.399
Well, especially if there's not if they don't book a show. Yeah,
2765
02:27:53.040 --> 02:27:58.280
they've done, They've done live wrestling on Super Bowl ye shows.
2766
02:27:58.360 --> 02:28:01.040
Yeah, that's right, Yeah, you're right about that.
2767
02:28:01.120 --> 02:28:04.280
Fet Yeah, but not best time. I guess okay off
2768
02:28:04.799 --> 02:28:07.840
episode eleven eighty five on the USA Network from Seattle.
2769
02:28:07.920 --> 02:28:10.680
The Dark Match has been announced. It is Romin Rains
2770
02:28:10.719 --> 02:28:13.639
and Dean Ambrose against Kevin Owens and Russeth. Also advertised
2771
02:28:13.680 --> 02:28:16.840
for the show Triple H brack Lessner, Chris Jericho, Seamus
2772
02:28:17.079 --> 02:28:21.280
bray Wyatt and Alberto Del Rio not advertised. Callisto, New
2773
02:28:21.360 --> 02:28:24.360
Day or Charlotte. Yeah, because they have championship belts.
2774
02:28:26.360 --> 02:28:28.479
Yeah, well it's Raw, so.
2775
02:28:30.639 --> 02:28:31.479
Hopefull it's a better.
2776
02:28:31.360 --> 02:28:34.520
Show than this past Monday, I would think.
2777
02:28:34.600 --> 02:28:34.639
So.
2778
02:28:35.040 --> 02:28:37.959
Yeah, I think they'll. I think they'll pull it together.
2779
02:28:38.040 --> 02:28:42.520
Actually, as Brett Hart said in his interview, so they
2780
02:28:42.559 --> 02:28:43.719
need to put a wrap it out of the hat.
2781
02:28:43.879 --> 02:28:45.920
So yeah they do.
2782
02:28:46.719 --> 02:28:50.280
They might just have to do that. I understand. SmackDown
2783
02:28:50.319 --> 02:28:54.520
has taped this Tuesday in Portland, Oregon. Hunter Brock and
2784
02:28:54.600 --> 02:28:58.639
Seamus not advertised. However, the usso's and Rye Back are
2785
02:28:58.719 --> 02:29:01.680
advertised for SmackDown. So we'll get your ride back fix
2786
02:29:01.799 --> 02:29:02.159
next week.
2787
02:29:02.959 --> 02:29:05.360
Yeah, you know, right Back might be a future guy
2788
02:29:05.399 --> 02:29:08.040
on SmackDown. Now he was nowhere to be seen on Raw,
2789
02:29:08.120 --> 02:29:09.840
but I think he's, you know, maybe going to be
2790
02:29:09.879 --> 02:29:13.239
introduced to a featured act on SmackDown, which I guess
2791
02:29:13.280 --> 02:29:15.040
that's good you got.
2792
02:29:15.040 --> 02:29:16.360
I mean, you got to change it up a little bit.
2793
02:29:16.360 --> 02:29:18.440
I like the idea of having guys wrestle on rod
2794
02:29:18.840 --> 02:29:22.559
Backdown who went on Raw. You know, nothing's really wrong
2795
02:29:22.600 --> 02:29:22.760
with that.
2796
02:29:23.479 --> 02:29:23.559
Uh.
2797
02:29:23.680 --> 02:29:26.559
And of course TNA Impact Wrestling Cut is coming Tuesday
2798
02:29:26.639 --> 02:29:29.079
on Pop TV. They were taping somewhere in England. I
2799
02:29:29.120 --> 02:29:34.079
don't remember which one. That Manchester is Uptown Manchester first. Yeah, okay, anyway,
2800
02:29:34.120 --> 02:29:36.760
you'll get to see beer Money taking on the DK
2801
02:29:37.639 --> 02:29:40.799
and the main event is curtent Angle versus Drew Galloway.
2802
02:29:41.680 --> 02:29:45.479
And we'll go Fawell Tour and we'll go over all
2803
02:29:45.559 --> 02:29:45.879
that with.
2804
02:29:46.239 --> 02:29:48.680
The Hurricane when he is on the show next Wednesday.
2805
02:29:49.719 --> 02:29:52.280
Yeah, that'll be that Actually can be an Impact postgame
2806
02:29:52.360 --> 02:29:55.159
show in sort of a delayed way with.
2807
02:29:56.639 --> 02:29:59.040
Your show following the Impact as close as we ever
2808
02:29:59.120 --> 02:30:00.559
come to an Impact game show.
2809
02:30:00.639 --> 02:30:03.120
Yeah, that is right, that's right on there, you go.
2810
02:30:04.399 --> 02:30:06.639
Okay, that's a lot of a lot of good stuff
2811
02:30:06.680 --> 02:30:10.280
coming well, and some of some of it we just
2812
02:30:10.360 --> 02:30:11.120
hope is good stuff.
2813
02:30:12.559 --> 02:30:14.680
Well, that is always the hope, especial Monday nights.
2814
02:30:15.479 --> 02:30:18.159
Yeah, we got Lucha Underground back. Wednesday nights are busy again.
2815
02:30:19.239 --> 02:30:22.680
Yeah, we got nx C Luca a Ring of Honor.
2816
02:30:22.799 --> 02:30:23.680
Yeah, it's h.
2817
02:30:25.239 --> 02:30:27.319
And there was wasn't there time? Yeah, TNA was on
2818
02:30:27.399 --> 02:30:29.159
Wednesdays too, There were all four shows were on.
2819
02:30:29.760 --> 02:30:31.079
I know, the same night that was.
2820
02:30:31.159 --> 02:30:33.239
That was a wow craziness man.
2821
02:30:33.879 --> 02:30:34.040
Yeah.
2822
02:30:35.159 --> 02:30:38.440
Yeah, imaginely put all those reports up on Wednesday nights.
2823
02:30:38.479 --> 02:30:39.000
Yeah it was.
2824
02:30:39.879 --> 02:30:41.879
Now those were Wednesday nights. You know, you had four
2825
02:30:41.920 --> 02:30:44.000
reports coming in from four DIFFERDT shows.
2826
02:30:45.200 --> 02:30:48.120
There they were all right, uh, Shytown Rumbles still in
2827
02:30:48.200 --> 02:30:48.879
the lead, by the way.
2828
02:30:49.559 --> 02:30:49.920
There you go.
2829
02:30:50.239 --> 02:30:52.920
Well, I'm glad to see that my vote is helping
2830
02:30:52.959 --> 02:30:53.239
out here.
2831
02:30:53.600 --> 02:30:57.440
Yes, every vote matters. Poort on guys, Okay, and James
2832
02:30:57.440 --> 02:30:59.840
and I will be back to doing it next week,
2833
02:31:00.040 --> 02:31:03.399
the same Pat time, same Pat channel. You're gonna be ready, James,
2834
02:31:04.200 --> 02:31:04.520
I'll be.
2835
02:31:04.559 --> 02:31:05.079
Ready, Pat.
2836
02:31:06.040 --> 02:31:07.200
What do you like in the Super Bowl?
2837
02:31:08.280 --> 02:31:08.440
Oh?
2838
02:31:08.600 --> 02:31:09.639
Good, good question.
2839
02:31:13.040 --> 02:31:16.760
I just don't know if if Peyton can handle Carolina's defense,
2840
02:31:18.319 --> 02:31:21.319
but Denver's defense will be motivated. I think this might
2841
02:31:21.360 --> 02:31:23.360
actually be a low scoring game. I'm going to give
2842
02:31:23.360 --> 02:31:24.639
it to Carolina by a field goal.
2843
02:31:24.680 --> 02:31:28.360
Pat, Yeah, I think I've got to take Carolina too.
2844
02:31:28.440 --> 02:31:30.479
They're favored, and you know I live here, so.
2845
02:31:32.120 --> 02:31:33.159
You're gonna have to pick them.
2846
02:31:34.000 --> 02:31:34.200
Yeah.
2847
02:31:34.680 --> 02:31:36.840
Plus, you know, and the Bruis would be upset if
2848
02:31:36.840 --> 02:31:37.559
you didn't, of course.
2849
02:31:37.799 --> 02:31:40.120
Plus you're betting against Denver in the Super Bowl, which
2850
02:31:40.159 --> 02:31:42.399
has always been an easy thing to do frankly.
2851
02:31:42.840 --> 02:31:47.360
So yeah, yeah, two years ago it was not good. Yeah.
2852
02:31:48.000 --> 02:31:50.559
Although if Denver wins, does this mean Peyton finally retires?
2853
02:31:51.239 --> 02:31:51.719
I think so.
2854
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I well, speak of Colin Duney, you know, winter loser
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leaves town.
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02:31:57.840 --> 02:31:58.760
I think this is a.
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If he wins, he's retiring. If he doesn't wins, he
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02:32:04.399 --> 02:32:07.079
might still retire. But I think he wants to win
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02:32:07.159 --> 02:32:09.840
and go out. So you know, John Elway did the.
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02:32:09.799 --> 02:32:10.719
Same thing so here.
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02:32:11.200 --> 02:32:12.719
That's kind of what I suspect as well.
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02:32:12.959 --> 02:32:16.479
So yeah, I think I think. I think Cam pulls
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02:32:16.479 --> 02:32:19.799
it out for Carolina though, and and then uh, and
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02:32:19.879 --> 02:32:22.360
then and then Peyton's gonna decide if you want to
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02:32:22.399 --> 02:32:23.639
come back and try again next year.
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02:32:24.760 --> 02:32:28.440
Yeah, Okay, that all sounds good. Well, I want to
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thank you, James, and for the rest of you, we
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where Wade Killer interviews one of pro Wrestling's newsmakers.
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Ten years ago.
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This week, I interviewed Just Incredible, former ECW champion, former
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longtime WWF wrestler or a number of different names, and
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he talked about Russelmania thirty two and how it was
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shaping up, some thoughts on the alternative universe version of
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And then after that Pat McNeil's interview from February third,
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twenty sixteen with Trevor Murdoch talking about a wider ray
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upcoming events. So let's get to it. This is a
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Uh.
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It is Thursday, February fourth, twoenty sixteen, and Thursday means
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interview Thursday, and today we welcome back one of our
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favorite recurring guests on the program, former ECW World Heavyweight Champion,
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former WWF wrestler Justin Credible, also known as PJ Palaco
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or Pach.
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PJ. How's it going.
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It's going great? Wait, how you doing?
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Doing really good? Thanks for taking time out for the
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show again.
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Today, Oh, anytime, It's always my pleasure.
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We want to take phone calls today, so if you
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or anything like that, so give us a call here
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Uh PAG.
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My first question for you is what do you think
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of Triple H against Roman Reigns as the leading contender
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right now to be the WrestleMania thirty two main event
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in Dallas in front of somewhere in the neighborhood or
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not one hundred thousand people. Is that a suitable main
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event in twenty sixteen to fill that building?
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I don't think so, just personal opinion as a fan.
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Strictly as a fan, yeah, I think there's something missing.
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You know, Hunters a great performer. I'm sure the match
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will be great, but from a fan interest standpoint, it's
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not going to you know, I don't know. It's not
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going to tackle my fancy.
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I wouldn't.
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I wouldn't pay to watch it, you know. Personally think now,
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I think now with the ww we expect is more.
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You're paying for WrestleMania for the spectacle of what WrestleMania
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has become, and I personally think that it just doesn't
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It doesn't do it for me. There's no interest you
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know they've been fans are smarter than that these days.
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They know that they're going with the Roman reigns, and
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you know, putting them over on Triple H would be
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you know, supposedly this big crowning achievement.
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Yeah, and I mean that certainly is the betting line
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is Roman reigns beats Triple H at WrestleMania. We got
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an email question related to this topic. I'll start with that,
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We're gonna get the calls quickly on the other side
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you can get in line now. Six four, six, nine
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two eight. David emails and says, dear Wade and Justin,
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I've had a few hectic weeks at work and I'm
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just now catching up on the progressing Torture newsletter. I
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definitely recommend reading this fine periodical if you're a VIP
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member only for audio, and last week's had notes. You
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spoke about the likely disaster that would result if a
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babyfaced Roman rains and heal Triple H met at WrestleMania.
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I could help but think about Wresselmania eighteen between the
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Rock and Hulk Hogan. Sure it was in bizarro world,
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i e. Canada, but the fans voice Seripian about who
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should be in which role. The rest of Many eighteen
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main event was memorable, likely because the two men involved.
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But can WW face a similar situation this year and
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actually benefit from it? Could there be a double turn?
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If you will trademark Dusty Rhodes? So what about that
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David suggesting possibly Triple H is a heel going into
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the match Roman or into baby Face. The crowd totally
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turns in favor of Triple H or cheers Triple H
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stays against Roman. Could that lead to either a planned
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or an optional hardcore heel turn from Roman reigns? Would
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the timing be right if you're gonna turn Roman, to
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turn him in front of a crowd totally rejecting him
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at the biggest spectacle of the year.
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I mean, it could definitely be done, but jeez, it
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just to me doesn't seem very exciting either way. Yeah,
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it seems, you know, it seems probable. I mean, you know,
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I think fans have come to and specially so you know,
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you know, give Triple H his props and you know
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he's done and accomplished a lot in the business. I
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just you know, it'd be I'd be cool, and they
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you know, they'd play it up on their pre taped
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videos and they're wonderful you know packages that they do.
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But I really don't think personally that they would would
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generate any real business going forward, especially into you know,
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the harder spring summer months where business tends to go down.
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I just don't think it would bring enough excitement. I
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think they need something much bigger, on a much broader scale,
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Yeah, Yeah, I think a lot of people are a
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little worried about this lineup. It'd be one thing, uh
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page if Hunter against Roman was supported with a musty
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Undertaker match and a must see Rock Lesner match. We're
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just not seeing that show up in the lineup yet.
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When we kind of imagine what the undercard will be, Uh,
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does Rock Lesner versus bray Wyatt, an Undertaker versus Bronz
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Strohman feel WrestleMania worthy?
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Absolutely not. I mean, you know, I been not like that.
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I'm not being a jerk, yeah, but uh, I you know,
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I think bray Wyatt's immensely talented. I have a ton
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of respect for the guy, you know, Brahm, and come on,
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are you are you kidding me? In an undertaker match?
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I mean, to me, this seems like we're just really
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grasping at straws, you know, really really grasping at straws.
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I might as hell at this point, at this point,
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bring another DCW comeback. Yeah, really, you know, I was
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just you know, as a matter of fact, it's funny
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to say that I was hand to God on my children.
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Bubba Ray Dudley, who dates Velvet Sky was. They live
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two blocks from my house. We just saw each other
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at the grocery store getting our because red round now
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it's dinner time, we're getting our food, and we were talking,
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and you know, we were saying, it's like things are
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looking thin right now creatively over there for the big
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the probably their biggest show of all time.
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McMahon's gonna have to come up with something more than
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what we're seeing right now as the likely lineup. And
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I don't know if that means the Rock Wrestling, or
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if that means Rody Rousey making an appearance, or if
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that means Steve Austin appearing.
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I'm not sure what.
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That is, but it needs all of it. It needs
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Steve Austin. You know, it would work, it would need
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and of course this would never happen, but it needs
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Steve Austin versus cmpunk. It needs Ronda Rousey versus Stephanie McMahon.
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It needs you know, Sean Michael's coming back. It needs
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it all. And that's the problem that you and I
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have talked about several times at nauseum about stars not
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being positioned yet. It takes time. Unfortunately. Now it's almost
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like the NFL. For those of the listeners that follow
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the NFL, it's like you have a coach who you know,
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takes you to uh A super Bowl, loses, you know,
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wins a bunch of games, and then gets fired the
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next year. You know, it's like they want it, they
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want it now times. You know, they're not giving these
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these kids A are not ready and B. It's it's
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just I just I'm not sure it's not the lack
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of talent. It's the lack of that that stubborn ideal
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that the you know, the smaller competitor, the you know,
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I like the way they're doing aj styles. But he's
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not gonna be pushed enough excuse me to make a
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difference for wrestling you and you know, and quite frankly,
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you know he'll only you know, there'll be a glass
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heealing with him as well. Just just because I know
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how they work and you know how they work, I
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just find that the business is in a real, real
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serious place. You know, they're still making their mind see
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that that that they don't care about Look, they care
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about putting out quality products. I know they pride themselves
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in that that's legit. I know that the McMahon's legitimately
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want to put out the best product they can. But
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they really have to start thinking long and hard about
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you know.
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The youth movement is is great and all, but I
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think a lot of the fans want to see legends
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to some capacity. And I don't mean just incredible, I
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mean just certain legends that could still go, that could
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still make going to be like like how Sting did it?
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Guys that haven't you know, I don't know what it is.
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I don't know They've they've put themselves into such a
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corner that I don't think they know how to.
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Get out of it.
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You know, there's just you could have NXT all you want.
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But by the time they get up to the main roster,
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everybody already knows who they are. There's no real surprise.
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Oh yeah, they're on row instead of n XT. It's
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not a real big deal. I mean, they need a
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guy completely out of nowhere who was a big deal
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or who is a big deal in another place in
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the world, who wrestles in another place in the world.
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And you know, unfortunately, until we have something of that nature,
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you know, I think Vince shot himself in the foot
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with the initial takeover of eighty two, eighty three, whatever
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it was. You know, I think that that essentially is
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going to start showing its face because we're really running
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out of legitimate stars. Because fans believe in in time,
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you know, they believe in Yeah I saw you ten
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years ago, I saw you fifteen years ago. You're legit.
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Who's this young kid Neville?
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I love him.
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I think he's talented, you know as hell, But you know,
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you know what I mean. They want They want guys
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who have been around the block. They want guys that
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have have have been there, and we're also missing everybody.
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To me, looks like looks like a clone six pack abs,
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the gimmicks, the shorts, the the hair, whatever little gimmicks
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they do, the flipping around. They need to have guys
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like Bam Bam Bigelow, the King Kong, Bundy's, the Yoko Zunas,
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guys with different body types because if you remember, of
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course you do back in the day, you know, these
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guys look like your uncle who got into a bar
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brawl at some shady biker bar, you know, but they
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look like killers, like the mad Dog Vishon's or whatever.
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I'm just saying. I'm just naming off names, but I
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think we need to stop trying to We're trying to
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Hollywood pro wrestling, and that's what Vince wants. Of course,
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he always wanted to make pro wrestle or sports entertainment.
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Excuse me, Hollywood and and you know, and to me,
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I still see that. You know, when you got guys
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like Sean and he's a good friend of mine. I'm
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not just saying it to be biased, but when you
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got guys like Sean Waltman on the sidelines, that's a
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problem because he's another guy. I'm not saying wrestling for
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whatever medical reasons or whatever, but there's just so many
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good guys. I've offered my services and got declined to
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help at the school that's your you know, I know
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where the bodies are buried in Stanford, I know at all.
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I know a lot of stuff.
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You know. That was an old saying.
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That's an old saying we used to have and we
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used to drive down the road. And uh, they need
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to bring those guys back into play, you know, and
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really get this, and not to not necessarily get in
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the ring, but to uh to get get something rolling.
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And and unfortunately we're at we're at a point where
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it's so fast paced that a feud that would last
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back in the day six months lasts an episode or two,
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you know, an episode of Raw, an episode of SmackDown,
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possibly you know, a third, and then you're done. If
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you're lucky, if you're lucky to get a pay per view,
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you need you need to really uh you know, you
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need to really you know, elongate these things because you're
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also burning through stars, you know, and uh, and eventually
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they're not going to be able to pump them out.
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It's something Seampunk talked about in his interview with Cocbana
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about how it's difficult to build WrestleMania around returning stars
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and do so in a way that diminishes your full
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time stars and then expect to draw in the other
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months of the year. But the other problem is eventually
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those other stars aren't available for any number of reasons,
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and now you're left with a perception that Kevin Owens
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isn't a big star or pick your guy, that he's
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not a big enough start a headline WrestleMania. You can
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see that even ardent fans of the current roster who
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would like to see a different lineup aren't even It's
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hard to shuffle this lineup into a blockbuster show. And
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so that's something WWE is facing going into WrestleMania thirty two.
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And I don't think what they did on Monday with
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Miss TV and AJ Styles help matters.
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PG.
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I want to tease this if you saw it. Did
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you see the AJ Styles Miss TV segment on Monday?
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I did not, Okay, so we'll we'll talk about it
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in more general terms because MS basically pointed out every
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deficiency and weakness in AJ that Vince McMahon I use
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against AJO attempt to kind of create heats. So anyway,
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let's go to our first break and when we come back,
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and go to Craig from Atlanta. Craig, you're the first caller.
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Thank you for your VP membership and thanks for calling today.
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Craig, are you there? Yep?
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Go ahead, Craig, Yeah, do you have these sorry bout?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, you're on, Craig, we can hear you. Just fine,
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go ahead with your question for Justin Credible.
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Hey guys, Hey Justin, Thanks for having me on. So
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my question is regarding I think it's kind of the
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foregone conclusion right now that we're going to have Triple
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H and Roman reigns at WrestleMania. But are we one
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hundred percent positive that Lesnar versus Triple H might not
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be the more marquee match, the more money match. And
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I don't know, I just I have this feeling deep
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down that we might end up seeing a Roman turn
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at Payback, and then see Roman in Dean Ambrose at
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Media then Triple H and Lester, which I think is
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a bigger drawing match in Dallas.
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Did you email me that earlier, Craig?
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I did not.
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Okay, someone else did then, so that's interesting. Someone else
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earlier today dropped me an email just asking that same question, PJ.
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Just incredible. Do you like that option better? If at
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fast Lane Roman turns on Dean to set up a
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former Shield member grudge match and you have brock Lesner
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as a babyface going against Triple H trying to take
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back the championship that he lost but never got pinned
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or submitted in losing.
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I would like that much way, much better than the
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current scenario. And do you know what any I mean,
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that's not a cliche, but I mean anything can have
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But who knows what they have on their sleeve. It
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could be a big swerve. I mean, hell yeah, that'd
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be a much bigger, you know, marquee matchup and would
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sell a lot more network subscriptions and whatever lift of
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pay per view that they still have. So yeah, absolutely,
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I think that would be very you know, very plausible, you.
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Know, definitely.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean we've seen Lesnar Hunter before that. That makes
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me a little hesitant. We haven't seen that Rains Hunter
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one on one match. I think Vince McMann tends to
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like to do first time marquee matchups, but if there
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was a big stipulation at stake that can work, I'm
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I'm still holding out Hope Craig that we see something
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evolving the Rock Steve Austin, Roda Ralsey, something like that.
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Dana White, by the way, said this week, and you
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Luke Crockold's next opponent determined, But the new story I'm
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referencing here is Dana White saying that Rona Ralsei's next
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fight will likely be in November, so giving her a
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lot of time off. That's a long stretch of time off,
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but it sounds like he is not gonna have her fight,
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doesn't see her fighting again until then, and that would
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certainly free her up after doing Saturday Night Live to
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be involved in WrestleMania, get a payday and maybe be
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opposite of Stephen McMahon in perhaps in Roman's corner. You know,
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if if they're really determined to get Roman reigns over,
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can you imagine Stephanie and Hunter's corner Ronda Ralsei in
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Roman's corner to maybe give a little bit extra oomph
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to that main event, justin if that's the plan, Does
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roder Ralsey's star power make that match then more special?
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Does? Does it become more acceptable?
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It does? But not much. Look bottom line, man, you know,
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the kid's good. He's no doubt about that, handsome body,
387
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liking Adonna's. He's got every tool that it takes. But
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he's just not there yet. Yeah, not for that level
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in my opinion. And it's just a humble opinion. I'm
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not saying I could do it. I'm not saying, oh,
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what do you think you can go up there and
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do that? No, I'm not saying I can't. But I'm
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just saying for me as a fan, maybe it's just
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he doesn't have the steam behind it. He could certainly
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pull off the work, the workload, you know, he obviously
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did it with Brock last year. But to me, it's
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just the steam behind him is just not creatively I'm
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talking about, it's just not there for me to get
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excited about.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, let's go now to our second caller, Ryan, Ryan,
402
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where are you calling from today?
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And England?
404
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All right?
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What have you got for us?
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Just a question for Justin and basically, was there bad
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hate when you came over from in the Invasion from
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WCW in the locker room and if you'd just done
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the question, yeah.
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Go ahead, Pete.
411
00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:20.079
When I came over from on the Invasion.
412
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Angle, yeah, so what did you get hate from the
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WWE guys that was already that Oh?
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No, no, no, no, I mean I was I was.
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No.
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No, I don't think anybody did. I think everybody at
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that point was you know, we just wanted to do business.
418
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I felt that at that point in the WWE, it
419
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was you know, it was an opportunity to make a
420
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lot of money and to you know, to just uh
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do something that's never been done before. Unfortunately, you know,
422
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they threw out a you know, an a goal for
423
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the Ages, probably one of the biggest pro wrestling angles
424
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of all time, and they turned it into shit. Frankly,
425
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excuse my language, and because really, if you think about it,
426
00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:17.079
it could have been, you know, one of the biggest
427
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deals in sports entertainment pro wrestling history. They should have
428
00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:27.319
kept the entity separately, and it should just should just
429
00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:30.759
you know, but it had to become about the mcmands,
430
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:33.920
and that's usually how it is, you know, and it's
431
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that that that thing that will always prevent them from
432
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from reaching the pinnacle. You know, look at look they
433
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have enough money. So now it's just about them. You know,
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if they were if it was back in the old
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days where they really needed to make ultimate money and
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get the most for their you know, for what they're
437
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putting out there, they would have done the right thing
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00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:03.440
for business. They always say what they always say, what's
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best for business. That was not best for business, that
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was best for them, and you know, it's just best
441
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for their egos. I thought there was a horrible.
442
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:17.119
Move just on what you're going on there.
443
00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:20.319
Do you actually you know, like we're saying that dispatching
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thing might about.
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The the authority?
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People say, no, when's it going to end? In fact,
447
00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:29.839
is it here to stay? It's going to be someone
448
00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:32.759
that's always going to be there? Is there? Is it
449
00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:35.599
going to be Triple H? And it's definitely for now.
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Until when it's for that, I can't see. It doesn't
451
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seem like it's Starline anymore. It just seems like it's
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here to stay.
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Understand.
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00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:47.920
I hear you, and I do understand, And it seems
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like it's not going anywhere anytime soon, you know. Uh,
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I think and it's the same.
457
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I think that the demands think protecting their image and
458
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projecting themselves as the stars is best for business. I
459
00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:07.640
think they rationalize it because it means that no matter
460
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what else happens to injuries or talent departing or anything,
461
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:15.160
they ultimately are the stars of the show, and if
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they endorse somebody or just appear on camera, it's a
463
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:20.599
big deal. I mean, I think they've rationalized to themselves
464
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that that's that's what's best for business. But I think
465
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the most money comes from the McMahon's promoting picking somebody
466
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and promoting them the way that they promote themselves. And
467
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I don't even think they've done that good of a
468
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:35.599
job with Roman Reigns because we don't even know that
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00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:36.759
much about Roman Reigns.
470
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:39.640
I mean, he's no I know, yeah, he's he's.
471
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An ex he's an I know, I know. I know
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that he's a Samoan yep, you know, and he has
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00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:48.200
heritage and he's a tough guy and you know, and
474
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:50.759
he's a good fighter. And that's it, I know.
475
00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:52.599
I mean, what does he stand for?
476
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:53.759
Uh?
477
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:56.000
You know, he doesn't even seem to care that much
478
00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:59.559
about losing championships, or he hasn't really defined like peage.
479
00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:01.519
When you and I we're growing up watching wrestling, the
480
00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:07.559
champion was always the champion was always somebody who talked
481
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:10.279
about how important the championship was to them.
482
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:12.440
And I just don't hear that enough these days.
483
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:16.240
Yes, no, you don't. It was all about the title. Yeah,
484
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:18.319
it was all about the title. It was all we
485
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:22.279
talked about a million times. It was all about wins, losses.
486
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:24.079
You know what you got.
487
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:27.599
You know, no pun intended. You know, you want a
488
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:29.680
piece of me. You know, you got to climb the
489
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:32.519
ranks and then you got to beat me for that title,
490
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:36.240
because that title is the most precious thing in professional wrestling.
491
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.720
It's like the super Bowl, It's like the World Series,
492
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.119
It's like the NBA Championship, you know what I mean.
493
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:44.480
It's the big deal, you know.
494
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:47.400
I think of the way that Nick Bockwinkle and the
495
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.440
a W a champion for a long time, late seventies
496
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.559
into the eighties, and and Rick Flair when he would
497
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:57.119
hand the NWA title over to the referee or Nick Wood,
498
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.400
there was it was like handing up newborn maybe to
499
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:02.400
the nurse after you got to hold your baby for
500
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:06.319
the first time, and I get I don't like when
501
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:10.240
a champion treats the title like it's a duffel bag
502
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:11.359
at the gym, in.
503
00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:15.319
The locker room. And if you watch, yeah, go ahead.
504
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:16.960
If you go, if you go, but just so I
505
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:20.440
don't forget. If you go back and watch my old
506
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:24.000
e c W matches when I was world champion, I
507
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:26.480
would I would kiss the belt over and hand it
508
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:27.240
to the referee.
509
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.559
Yes, you know it's a little thing that it makes
510
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:34.880
a big difference. Yeah, Yeah, I've got Ryan, you're still
511
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:35.759
with us? Any follow up?
512
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.400
Yeah, I've got another couple of questions, just in basically
513
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in this day and age now in the wrestlers they're
514
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:49.400
in the main roster or even the next t who
515
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.160
if you could have that one more fight with in
516
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:54.440
the WWE, who would it be with the main roster
517
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.759
now or and it's TAF you like them?
518
00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:59.359
Good question, Yeah, Peto, who do you imagine today if
519
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:01.319
you got yourself, I've been tip top shape for a
520
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.799
comeback match and you just thought I'm ready to keep
521
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.960
up with some young guy or a veteran even who's
522
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.599
the wrestler on the roster now that you haven't.
523
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:13.400
Worked with that, you'd like to, Oh, I know, I
524
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:16.880
could if you gave me six months, I could work
525
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:20.079
with Finn Baylor. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
526
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:21.559
I mean I could still go.
527
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:26.200
You know, half the reason I retired was the state
528
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.960
of the independent scene.
529
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:29.720
I was.
530
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.200
I'm forty two years old. I'm obviously at the back
531
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:38.799
end of my wrestling career, but I'm physically very healthy.
532
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.559
I'm not in shape. I'm then in wrestling shape, of course,
533
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.920
but I was just very discouraged and it just figured,
534
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:49.960
you know, if I keep un wrestling, I'm just going
535
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:53.279
to keep going on and on, and then you know,
536
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:55.759
ten years later, I'll be fifty two and still doing
537
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.119
the same thing. So I wanted to kind of move
538
00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:02.000
on in life, to have a backup in life, so
539
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:04.839
I could make a living for my family. It was
540
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:06.039
more of that decision.
541
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:06.759
It's not that I.
542
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:10.880
Wanted to leave wrestling. It's just there were you know,
543
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:14.759
look in full disclosure, and I don't care if she
544
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:17.519
gets mad at me. I reached out to Dixie Carter.
545
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:23.200
She you know, she called me back. We exchanged you know,
546
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:26.799
text and whatnot, and I asked her for any kind
547
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:31.519
of opportunity both behind the scenes and in any way
548
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:35.200
and helping train the boys or just being some kind
549
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:38.480
of you know, somebody because they have a lot of
550
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.400
proms there, they have no idea what they're doing. And
551
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:44.240
the response I got from her was talk to Big
552
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:47.880
John and I'm like, first of all, who the hell
553
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:49.359
I mean? I know who he is, but I'm like,
554
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.240
who the hell is Big John probably has no idea
555
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:55.160
who I am. I'm sure he didn't watch a CW
556
00:30:55.880 --> 00:31:00.279
And you know who I am. You're the boss. Don't
557
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.720
give me that bullshit about you know that kind of
558
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:08.440
it really upset me, you know, it really turned me
559
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:14.839
off about there. They're also lack of of wanting to
560
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.319
go after it for real.
561
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.920
Well, my hunt, my hunch two and TNA is there's
562
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.319
probably people who are in the position that you would
563
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:26.359
probably have who probably would you know, just the way
564
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:29.160
it works, are probably working against against you and and
565
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:32.279
saying things to Dixie, and that would probably, uh, that
566
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:35.559
would probably discourage Dixie from from hiring you Ryan anything
567
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:36.400
else for us.
568
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.640
Yeah, basically justin if you would have had a chance
569
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:47.079
at like US title or intercontinental title sort of opportunity,
570
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:47.960
what would.
571
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:48.839
You have brought to the table.
572
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.759
If you if you had given that like opportunity to
573
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:53.720
do that, and that's my final question.
574
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:59.480
Thanks, If I had that opportunity, yeah, I would have
575
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:04.319
just what I always did, even when I was Gabe Sepolski,
576
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:09.799
who runs a lot of you know, independent wrestling, big
577
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:13.839
time independent wrestling promotions in the States, he he used
578
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:18.000
to work ringside, you know, taping a lot of the
579
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:21.880
RF video fan cam stuff, and he went on record
580
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.759
at saying for the stretch that I had, I don't
581
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:28.079
know if it was five months or six months, whatever
582
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:33.920
it was, whether it was one one hundred fans or
583
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.640
five thousand fans at a house show, you put on
584
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:42.759
the best match of the night. Your effort was impeccable,
585
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.319
You worked as hard as you could. Because I took
586
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.960
that spot very seriously, and I believe that spot was
587
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:53.680
always meant for the working wrestler, the hard you know,
588
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:56.720
the the guys that you know, the icy title back
589
00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:00.200
then was the working man's title, and that's what I
590
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:00.960
would have done.
591
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:01.240
You know.
592
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:04.559
I took it very seriously, you know, So that's that's
593
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what it would have.
594
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.720
Been, like, Yeah, all right, we're going to take another
595
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.039
break and want to come back more phone calls, so
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if you're on hold, stay on hold. If you want
597
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:13.200
to get in line on the phone banks, you can
598
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:16.720
do so six four six, seven to one nine eight
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can find the link to the live feed at PW
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torchlivecast dot com. Just incredible my guest today on the
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PW Torch Live Cast. And we're going to go back
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to phone calls with no further delay, and uh, we
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appreciate our callers so far. Let's go next to Eric
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code seven one eight seven one eight. Please state to
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name and where you're calling from.
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Mike Brooklyn, how you guys going?
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Hey, Way, Hey, Justin, Hey, Hey, Mike, thanks for calling.
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What have you got for p Jamie?
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For me? Very very interesting, you know, all discussions today.
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First of all, you know, I just want to ask,
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you know, get your off perspective, what will be top
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you know, four matches and get off perspective of wrestling
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mainly as well being at right there.
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Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a good topic, uh, Peach.
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When we look at the available talent, obviously with the
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injuries to John Cena, Cizarro, seth Rawlins, it's at Daniel Bryan,
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it's Randy Orton.
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I mean, the list goes on and on.
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They have fewer people to work with, but I think
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they could have, with the time that they've had to prepare,
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have done a better job, including aj Styles the last
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week and a half. He had great momentum, I think
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at the Rumble, with the crowd response he got, and
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then MZ just tore him apart on Rawn Monday. I
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would like to see aj Styles and Kevin Owens as
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two wrestlers in particular positioned better going into WrestleMania and
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perhaps in one of those top three four matches. But
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do you have some specific matches in mind given the
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talent realistically available events.
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Wow, that's I mean, that's really really hard. Damn.
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I like, well, I'll throw a couple.
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I'll throw a couple at you, and then you can
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augment it as you like.
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But I.
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Would like to see heel Well, I mean this is
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changing a lot, but I'd like to see Roman Reigns
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go heel and take on uh Undertaker. I think that's
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a novel matchup. I think he gets Undertaker refreshmentpon it,
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and I think it elevates Roman Reigns to have a
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WrestleMania moment with Undertaker, something he might never have another
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chance at. So have Roman rerangs with Heel at fast Lane,
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and then you have Dean Ambrose win at fast Lane.
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00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:35.639
So you have Dean Ambrose take on Triple h because
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by doing that, you're elevating Dean Ambrose and giving him
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00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:41.679
a Wrestlatia moment that he would otherwise have. And then
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for Brock Lesner, I like Kevin Owens as an opponent.
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00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.119
For Brock as a heel, I think Paul Hayman and
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00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:52.039
Kevin Owens going at it on the microphone is money.
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So those are some matchups I like. And then I.
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Would really try to find a meaningful match for AJ
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Styles again, an established name who's healthy on the w
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w B roster and create create something special air Uh So, Peach,
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how about that?
670
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I agree with what you're saying. I just I just
671
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don't see anybody. God, who do you put against a Style?
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I'd go bray Wyatt. I think bray Wyatt.
673
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:20.679
Works, right.
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Do you think they would that would would that necessarily
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00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:27.519
pull out the best in a J.
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I think I think bras a good enough I mean,
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I know it. Yeah. But well, what I'm what I.
678
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.280
Don't want them to do with AJ is what TNA
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does with the X division, which is, hey all you
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00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:42.679
Ardent fans, you indie fans, We're gonna give you a
681
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.960
J Styles against Neville, and they're gonna do a bunch
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00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:47.920
of spots and the announcers are gonna marvel and you're
683
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:49.960
gonna chant this is awesome, and then we're gonna move
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on to the moneymakers.
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I don't want that.
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I want a j to be in there and treated
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as a guy who gets to face a deceptively large
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Bray Wyatt and bring out the best in Bray and
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have Brady challenged to face somebody different. So that's my
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top four rains. Undertaker, Ambrose, Triple h Lesnar, Kevin Owens,
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and AJ against Bray.
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I would like to.
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Bring I would like if they do, and I'd like
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to see the whole uh the Bullet Club come out
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even though a lot of fans wouldn't know them, and
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go up against the Wiats. Yeah, in the feud here,
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well you know what I mean.
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You know, if we incorporate NXT guys or now Shinskate
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Nakamura into the mix, you got some other options too,
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because I like I like Shinskate Nakamura against Brock Lesner
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or against Undertaker as a way to just shoot him
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to the top and say this guy is it's a
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big star in Japan. He doesn't have to play games
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for eighteen months or four months in order to earn
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his way. He steps in and WWE says, this guy
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is one of the biggest stars to ever wrestle in
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Japan and he's in his prime and he came here
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and he is making a statement. He he wants a
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top match and you know the just tell that story.
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We watched that growing up, Peach. The story that you
711
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could tell about a talent coming in from another country.
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You could create this story. Whether it was me with
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Billy Robinson and a w A as the UH Champion
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of Great Britain, or if you had Auto Vance coming
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in from Germany or Jumble Shuda coming in from Japan.
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You'd create the story and the fans today would sort
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of quote no better, but it doesn't matter. Just give
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us a story to believe in while we watched the
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show and shoot.
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The phantom pat patterson icy title whim. Yeah you know
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what I mean. Really you can do whatever you want.
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Yeah, you know.
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It's because I think I think the problem is is
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that we are we are just in such a corporate,
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uh political, you know, PC correct world that I think
726
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it's going to just be I think ww we quite
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Frankly is happy with the status quo I really do,
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I really.
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Do is the right way and this is what gets
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spit out of that right way.
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And until there's someone else and something else and yeah,
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ever coming out I'm wrong that will compete with that,
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you know, I just don't, you know, unless there's uh
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Ted Burner type. But even then.
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Guides. You know.
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The thing that that helped back then was there were
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these national The magazines were huge. The wrestling magazines were
738
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a huge help in developing these stars because even if
739
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you didn't know them, you saw them on your local
740
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newsstands and you were like, Wow, who are these guys?
741
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And when you finally got to see them in your town,
742
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you kind of had a little bit of an idea
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of while this guy is crazy and they make up,
744
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you know, they'd read all these interesting stories. And I
745
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:17.280
just think we have to the model of professional wrestling
746
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:22.119
has to change. I think the WWE network has hurt
747
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.679
in a lot of ways because of the content. There's
748
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.320
just so much content, so much wrestling, and quite frankly,
749
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:35.119
it's like how much wrestling can you digest after three
750
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.920
hours of a live raw, two hours of a SmackDown,
751
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:41.840
and what other with you know, all the other garbage
752
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:42.559
you put out there.
753
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.239
You know, well, part of a tube pages is the mystique,
754
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:48.519
you know where you grew up, where I grew up
755
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:50.159
there when a wrestler came in. And I think, you know,
756
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.280
Triple Ah saw this too, growing up a fan, something
757
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:55.599
Stephan McMahon never experienced because she grew up in the business.
758
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:57.920
And I think that's almost as that is a handicap.
759
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:01.880
But Hunter grew up a fan too, and that excitement
760
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:04.000
over somebody you read about in the magazines coming into
761
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:08.199
your territory was really exciting, you know, like Rick Flair.
762
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:08.480
For me.
763
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ESPN was out out here at my home office for
764
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:16.119
the tourch yesterday for a documentary they're doing on Ric Flair,
765
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:18.320
and they interviewed me and they asked, you know, well,
766
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you know, when did you see Ric Flair Wressell and
767
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:21.719
you know, and I was like, well, I grew up
768
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:24.760
in the a WA territory. I read about Rick Flair
769
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:27.280
and believed he was a huge star before I ever
770
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:30.400
saw him on television or in person. But when he
771
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:34.519
came here in the kind of mid nineteen eighties, when
772
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.519
Jim Crocker Promotion started touring, that's when I got to
773
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.280
see him up close and in person, but I already
774
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believed he was a star based on the reputation. I
775
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:43.719
think WWE and I think Hunter would know how to
776
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:48.400
do this. You can create this mystique around the pending
777
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:52.639
arrival of Shinsky Nakamura and you know, show photograph show
778
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.519
him in Japan being treated like a celebrity, and clippings
779
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of him in magazines and say, the biggest international star
780
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to ever signed with WWE is coming and he has
781
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:04.360
a big challenge and announcement. And I think you can
782
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.320
instantly insert him in a match against Brock Lesner or
783
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.000
Undertaker and turn him into a star. And I think,
784
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:12.480
and I'll throw to you after this, WrestleMania thirty two
785
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.239
isn't just about presenting a good lineup of established stars
786
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:17.000
the rest. And this goes back to what you said
787
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:21.519
earlier that it's become a showcase, that WrestleMania has become
788
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.760
more of a spectacle. I think you can use WrestleMania,
789
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:26.840
and I think seem Punk kind of made this argument too,
790
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:30.039
to create a star or elevate somebody, Because if you're
791
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:33.480
in a big match at WrestleMania and you are qualified,
792
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:35.280
he can't just put anyone in that spot. But if
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00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:38.239
you're putting a major spot at WrestleMania, just that atmosphere
794
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:39.440
turns you into.
795
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A big star.
796
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:42.679
So that's where I kind of like Nakhamer doing that.
797
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Now we know Nakamur is gonna be on the NXT
798
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Takeover special the night before, but still or you know,
799
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:50.719
that weekend, but still there's an opportunity to do something
800
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:52.559
like that, like you said with Bullet Club two.
801
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:56.679
No, I mean, they'll always get theirs, They'll always have
802
00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:01.239
their fair share of of you know, great fans and
803
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:06.440
passionate fans, but I think now they're also you know,
804
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the audiences as for a long time now, for years
805
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:15.320
and years, they've shifted towards kids again, and you know,
806
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:19.840
I think there's a real there, there's a real need
807
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:23.960
for more serious I would almost like to see you
808
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:28.960
know ours one, you know, maybe our one and two
809
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:34.920
before younger viewers like you know, the TVPG and then
810
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:38.079
the last hour before a more mature audience.
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Maybe even switching out screws to really accentuate that it's
812
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a different.
813
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:44.360
You know, I don't know. I mean, I just think
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00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.960
there are adult fans still want to like the business,
815
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:50.880
but it's it's it's become corny again.
816
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:52.639
You know.
817
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:54.920
I talked to I talked to a lot of people, man,
818
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:58.400
and it's like, yeah, man, but that that stuff's corny.
819
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:01.119
You know, I liked it back in the day, you know,
820
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:03.920
I always I mean, I get it because of me,
821
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.840
because they're talking to me. But I love that ECW stuff.
822
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.320
I love that hardcore stuff, even that w you know,
823
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:14.360
the w CW stuff that make Bloley coming off the
824
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:17.960
cage and you know they used to you know, undertake
825
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:21.079
or doing all that crazy stuff, and you know from
826
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:25.800
Steve Austin with the beer trucks, and you know, I
827
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:28.920
just think they need something. I don't know. Maybe I
828
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:33.239
don't know, I do There's it's just so sugarcoated now
829
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:36.599
it's hard to it's really hard to watch. I have
830
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:41.480
a hard time watching people. Quite honestly. I I canceled
831
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:45.239
my subscription to the network because I just I wasn't.
832
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:46.639
I wasn't getting my usage.
833
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:49.480
Yeah, you know, I really wasn't.
834
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.679
I wonder how many people are disgruntled but stick with
835
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:56.280
it because they want to watch NXT and see those
836
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:59.679
takeover specials. Because I think for you know, twenty dollars
837
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.840
every two months. Those NXT species are are are worth
838
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:03.599
the price.
839
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:05.639
They're worth the price.
840
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:08.360
Yeah, but I'm I am older.
841
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:11.800
I'm just starting to cure less. Yeah yeah, you know,
842
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:14.840
I really am. It's just and that's sad for me
843
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:18.159
because this is always my passion. But I'm just starting
844
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:21.199
to cure less and it's hard to care, you know.
845
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:25.880
But if you gave me something exciting, the heck gotta
846
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:29.079
be right back in. So you know, it's just it's
847
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:31.440
it's harder and harder for me to enjoy.
848
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:36.039
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I know you don't have as many shows as you
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used to, but I know you're still got your videos
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up on YouTube and what else.
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Just follow me on Twitter at PJ Poloco. I'm also
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on Instagram at PJ Polago the Real just incredible on Facebook,
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wrestling that I learned from many of the superstars we've
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spoken about today.
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So the good stuff.
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I think you're one of your most viewed videos on
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your YouTube channel is locker room etiquette, so check out.
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Yeah, well that's the that's you know, young kids today.
878
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Sometimes you know, I'll walk by to say hi and
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they'll ignore me, you know, and uh yeah, and that'll
880
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tell you something. And I don't mind, because I'm not
881
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you know, I'm a lover, not a fighter, and I'm
882
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:27.920
getting too old with that stuff. But you know, back
883
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:30.760
in the day, you'd get a stiff smack in the face. Yeah,
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you know, but you know you do that these days
885
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you get a lawsuit.
886
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So yeah, you know, yeah, I know you got to know,
887
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:41.880
like know the history of the business you're getting in.
888
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Yeah, well, what awesome Kong did to Rebby Sky, you know,
889
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and she got sent home from the TNA tour.
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Yeah.
891
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Well, believe me, one time, a deceased friend of mine
892
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who was used to be a British bulldog, you know,
893
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I went to the bathroom and one of Tammy Sitch's
894
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lunchables to take home to the hotel. So and we
895
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:14.519
didn't go crying back then. So just the ribs were worse,
896
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:19.440
not saying they were justified, just way worse than you know. So,
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you know, kids need to realize it's just part of
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the culture. And you know, you need to earn your respect.
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Man.
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It's a hard business. Yeah, And you know what, sometimes
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00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:32.199
these kids it's too easy for these kids, too easy,
902
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:34.800
because you know what, I have so much respect for everyone.
903
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:38.119
I still to this day walked into any indie locker
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00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:41.119
room and I'll walk around the room as tired as
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00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:43.920
I am from the drive, and I shake every single
906
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:48.920
person's band, including the referees, you know, yeah, which you know,
907
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.760
I wish that honor would still stay with the business.
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You know.
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Well, let's take another email question here. We're down to
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our final five minutes or so, so if anybody he
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wants to give us a call real quick, we might
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get to more than we might get.
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To your call.
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So six verse six seven eight. Got an email question
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here from Joseph from Boston. He says, thanks for all
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the great work that you and the Torch staff are
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doing always and especially here in many a season. Forgive
918
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me if you've already addressed this, as I'm unable to
919
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listen live. But my question is actually a suggestion to
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pose a question to PJ. What does PJ think about
921
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:29.039
the recent spat of injuries among top WWB wrestlers and
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00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:31.880
what sort of an effect CrossFit in the overall training
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regiment may have in potentially causing injuries PG the crossfits
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00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:41.199
being blamed for or or it's being questioned as maybe
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setting wrestlers up to be more vulnerable to injury. Just
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00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.039
in general, what do you think of the issues with
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you know, staff blown out his knee on the Europe tour.
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John Cena with the shoulder injury, Randy Orton with a
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chronic shoulder injury, Cizarrow.
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It's just on and on.
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It's amazing. And I think I've mentioned this on a
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show for agents.
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You know, we always.
934
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Worked a strong style up there. You know, house shows
935
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were pretty. You know, we loosened up and we you know,
936
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we had a good time. But you know, TV is TV.
937
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You got to make it look good. And I understand that.
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But in these days, man, I think a lot of
939
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:26.000
the well they call them producers now, they used to
940
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call them agents. They go out there and they really
941
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:32.920
tell these kids too, you know, to lay it in there.
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And these kids, just a lot of them, I'm silliar.
943
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:39.840
They just don't know how to work, I mean, to
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really work. I'm proud to say that I've never heard
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anybody in my twenty three year career in the business.
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I mean I might have given them a little stiff,
947
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:52.079
you know, a stiff potato to that, but I've never
948
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:57.039
heard someone, you know, seriously. And that was the craft
949
00:51:58.039 --> 00:51:58.719
that's taught me.
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You know, you you know how to work.
951
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:03.320
You know it's okay, you know they're safe spot you
952
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:07.920
could hit hard. I think kids are reckless. I watched
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00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:13.199
Raw and I cringe. I think there is just a
954
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:18.519
lack of understanding. But of course, you know, w W
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00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:24.079
doesn't mine because it only looks more real. I've never
956
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:26.599
seen so many back in the day, man, I never
957
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.280
saw people get staples in their heads. And I was
958
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:32.719
there for a very long time, from ninety four to
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ninety seven. I never saw one person get a staple
960
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.000
in their head. Maybe a stitch or two, but it
961
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:41.079
wasn't you know, it wasn't like that. And in two
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00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:43.480
thousand and two, in two thousand and one to two
963
00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:46.239
thousand and three, the same thing. You know, I think
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00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:51.079
kids are less experienced, so they're just more you know.
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00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:56.800
I remember that I wrestled Dave Batista. I was his
966
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:01.119
new match on Raw, and Dave as a sweetheart. I
967
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:04.920
know Dave very well, and we worked around the loop
968
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:08.159
to get him ready, you know, and he's a very
969
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:15.039
light worker, actually, Dave is. And you know Arn Anderson,
970
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:17.199
who was also well. I consider him a friend. I
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don't know what he thinks to me, but I n
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00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:25.440
and I always we're very friendly. And you know, to
973
00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:28.840
an impressional kid, Arne says, you know, when you hit
974
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:33.639
him with that clothesline, rip his f and head off. Now,
975
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:35.559
if you're going to a young kid who doesn't know
976
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:38.239
any better and has less experience, what are you going
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00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:42.159
to do, You're gonna rip his FN head off, right, Yeah,
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00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:46.000
And I think that is the problem, as I think
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there's a lot of misguided guys out there that don't
980
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:52.519
know what they're doing. They think stiffer is better. I
981
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:54.679
was Sean, and Sean and I and raise her and
982
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:57.039
I used to always talk about it. We used to
983
00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.719
hate it when it hurt like it looked like crap,
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00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.880
it hurt like hell. Because if it hurts like, if
985
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:05.119
it hurts like hell, I can't sell it for you.
986
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.679
I'm just gonna crumble down into the fetal position. But
987
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:10.320
if you hit me, if you hit me right, I'm
988
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:13.400
going to sell it like a million bucks. And I
989
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:16.880
think that's a huge problem in the business, and that's
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00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:19.280
why there are so many injuries and so many people
991
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.920
out of action. You know, it's it's it's I think
992
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:25.840
it's like the most we've had injuries in a long time.
993
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:29.559
It's because the things like that. Yeah, you know, guys,
994
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:34.400
guys don't know how to work the right way.
995
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:37.119
Do you think you can over exercise, over exert yourself
996
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:41.840
or overtrain your muscles with certain weightlifting techniques that makes
997
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:47.719
you more susceptible to injury in the ring. No, yeah,
998
00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:51.599
so that's so yeah, because that's the conversation is like,
999
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:55.559
you know, this overdoing it on CrossFit makes people more
1000
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:58.000
vulnerable to muscle tires when they're in the ring.
1001
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And I don't know enough you.
1002
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Know that might be the case. I mean muscle pears,
1003
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but I mean I'm talking about like you know, shots
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to the head and you know, concussions and stuff. I mean,
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00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:16.280
I don't know. Man, back then, we used to barely
1006
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:19.239
I have to this is I mean, we're going back
1007
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:23.280
in the old days. But me and kid he still literally,
1008
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:25.719
I mean we'd barely do a stretch. We d had
1009
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:31.039
stairs chairs in the gorilla position. Everybody else is doing
1010
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:34.519
push ups warming up. You know, everybody's like, aren't you
1011
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:37.360
warming up? Believe me, We'll leave it all out there,
1012
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:42.039
you know, and our music it we went. You know,
1013
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:46.320
sometimes it's overdoing it. It's it's over I remember this,
1014
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:50.800
stuffs will work. You know, know your limitations And that's
1015
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.679
the thing is I always knew my limitations. If I
1016
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:56.760
wasn't comfortable with something, I'd say it. And these guys
1017
00:55:56.800 --> 00:56:01.119
are just everybody's so job scared that they're just trying
1018
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:06.039
to do whatever they're told to do. And uh, you know,
1019
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:09.880
they're the only game in town, and it's it's you know,
1020
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:13.280
these kids have never been anywhere. This is the only
1021
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:15.880
thing they know. So I don't blame them.
1022
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:16.360
You know.
1023
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:19.360
I was lucky enough to catch the back end of
1024
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:23.760
the territory days. I wrestled for Lawler's territory and you know,
1025
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:26.280
a couple of their small territories before I went to
1026
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:29.000
w W E and E c W and back to
1027
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:33.000
w W E and so forth, you know, And I
1028
00:56:33.039 --> 00:56:35.760
think that's that's that's it. You know, guys just aren't
1029
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.719
getting the pro and that's why, you know, I think
1030
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:42.719
a guy like myself and a guy like Waltman could
1031
00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:47.039
help over there, you know. And just from a council standpoint,
1032
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:50.679
a consultant standpoint, I think they're really missing the boat
1033
00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:53.239
with a lot of great legends out there that could
1034
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:56.360
really help. I really do.
1035
00:56:57.360 --> 00:56:58.639
Pege this hour flew by.
1036
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:02.920
Thank you so much again for your insights and uh,
1037
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:07.280
just good conversation about WrestleMania. And the lineup, and we
1038
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:08.840
thank for colors too. It's always good to have.
1039
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.719
You on the program. Always a pleasure waiting. Thank you
1040
00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:12.599
so much for having me.
1041
00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:13.519
I really appreciate it.
1042
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:14.719
Guys, thank you for listening.
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We'll talk to you hopefully in another month or two
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as Wrestlming approaches are right afterwards.
1045
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Absolutely, we thank you sir.
1046
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Thanks Peach. That's just incredible. You can look him up
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Hello you people Today Wednesday, That Boy third twenty sixteen.
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you for being part of the program today. Let's get
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right into it.
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As what it's time to do.
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So it really makes me happy.
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Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the program. A former
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WWE World Tag Team Champion, the one, the only, Trevor Murdach.
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01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:19.079
Welcome back to the show.
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01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:23.440
Trevor, Hi, thanks you for grabbing me again, no.
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01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:26.079
Problem, Glad to have you here. People have been waiting
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01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:28.920
for you. You know, there's a lot to talk about
1113
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:31.760
in the currency and professional wrestling, but we do want
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to talk about what you're doing.
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Uh.
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You know, after after things went south in the wrestling
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01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:38.920
business about fifteen years ago, you know, people like me
1118
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:42.440
were wondering whether this business would would you know, go
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01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.880
the way of Demolition Derby or Roller Derby or the
1120
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:49.519
Harlem Globe Trotters. But that's not the case. And and
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01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.320
one of the reasons why is is smaller groups than
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01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:55.599
wrestling schools like yours. Uh, the Kansas City Pro Wrestling
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01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:58.960
Training Center opens its doors this month. Trevor Murdoch and
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01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:02.679
Kansas City NAD Derek McQuinn are bringing pro wrestling training
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01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:04.679
back to Kansas City. Both do both of you trained
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01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:08.760
by the legendary Harley Race. Let's see, there's yeah, there's
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01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:13.039
a personalized fitness program, there's a world class there are
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01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:18.119
world class trainers, and you're working with Chris Guff of
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the Metro Pro Wrestling. Why don't you do? I mean,
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first of all, do you feel that this is twenty
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01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:28.119
sixteen is the right time to be getting into the uh,
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01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:30.159
getting into the business and starting a wrestling school.
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01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:34.840
Well, I mean anything in wrestling is always a little, uh,
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01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:38.840
a little sketchy, sometimes a little scary. But I mean
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01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:42.079
wrestling's hot right now. In my opinion. There's a lot
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01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:43.840
of people out there, a lot of athletes that are
1137
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:47.280
switching to pro wrestling, and Kansas City is a great
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01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:49.840
place to do it. It's you know, it's it's a
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01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:54.000
step dealing tradition, especially with Memorial Hall. There's a lot
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01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:57.920
of wrestling fans there. Metro Pro draws and the average
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01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:00.599
between four and five hundred every time they run shows.
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01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:02.800
So yeah, I think it's a great time to be
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01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:03.519
honest with.
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01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:07.679
You, Okay. So, I mean the part of the idea
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01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:10.360
is that the trainees when they graduate, there'll be you know,
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01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:12.800
two local groups that would be looking, you know, maybe
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01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:16.440
where they can maybe you know, get their start.
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01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:20.079
The part that's the whole idea is is to give
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01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:23.119
guys a place to come to learn how to learn
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01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:25.960
how to wrestle right, and not only that, but also
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01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.159
have a gym with a trainer that can help them
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01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:31.239
get right in the gym, eat health. He will put
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01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:34.239
them on a nutrition plan. They'll actually be working out
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with a certified trainer, somebody who knows what to do
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01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:39.679
in the gym, and all that comes together when you're
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01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:41.679
a part of the school.
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01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.760
Okay. You know, like I said, I was worried that
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you know, people would not be around who would be,
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01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:49.079
you know, teaching other people how to carry on the
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01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:52.760
traditions of professional wrestling. What do you think the most
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01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:55.320
important thing that you can teach these kids as.
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01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:57.239
Well?
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01:03:57.320 --> 01:04:02.400
It's it's you know, it's hard and dedication and to
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01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:06.000
actually learn how to wrestle. There are so many guys
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01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:09.000
out there that was trained by Jimmy John, who was
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01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:12.760
trained by so and so that wasn't trained by anybody
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01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:17.000
that had been anywhere. So what I'm excited about is
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01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.320
I get to actually pass down the knowledge to guys
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and learn teach them to learn how to wrestle properly
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01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:26.079
in the ring, not only put on a good show
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01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:30.159
for the fans, but to stay safe and be healthy.
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01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:33.679
Okay, that's all very important. We are going and you're
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01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:36.039
also doing a contest, I should point out. I mean
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01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:39.400
it's not quite tough enough, but fans are getting an opportunity.
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01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:43.280
They sent in a three minute video explaining explaining why
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01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:47.280
they or somebody they know deserves to be trained for free.
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01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:50.199
Six men. I was the six months of training, both
1178
01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:52.719
wrestling and fitness training. And you guys are going to
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01:04:52.760 --> 01:04:55.960
pick the winner? Do you have any critarion mind?
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01:04:56.119 --> 01:04:56.159
You?
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01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:58.239
Are you just going to know the right person when
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01:04:58.280 --> 01:04:59.480
you see them?
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01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:03.000
Well, we had actually already picked a winner last Saturday
1184
01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:07.119
and announced his name was Trevor. His name's Trevor Johnson's
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01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:10.840
twenty seven years of twenty seven years old, so Cameron Missouri.
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01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:14.239
He's got a background in MMA. Basically, what we were
1187
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:17.880
looking forward is guys that loved pro wrestling but also
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01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:22.800
had heart and that that really wanted this and had
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01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:25.079
opportunities put in front them and weren't able to take
1190
01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:28.760
advantage of them. There's so many guys out there that
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01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:31.039
say they want to be pro wrestlers, but until they
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01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:33.360
actually get in the ring and see what it really
1193
01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:37.639
takes to become a good pro wrestler, Uh, they tend
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01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:40.840
to fade away, I guess. So that's what we were
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01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:42.920
looking for. Somebody that we didn't think was just going
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01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.920
to fade away, but somebody take, you know, absolute full
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01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:47.880
advantage of this and go to the next level.
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01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:52.679
Okay, and you trained at early races, you know, you trained,
1199
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:58.079
you trained in Japan under Massla and mar Fuji and Kenta.
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01:05:58.400 --> 01:05:58.639
Uh.
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01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:02.000
It's you know, it's definitely it's definitely quite a pedigree
1202
01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:04.480
to have, especially in your time in the WWE in
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01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:07.480
terms of training young wrestlers in the Kansas City area.
1204
01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:10.119
So Trevor Murdoch is here, He's been in the business.
1205
01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:12.800
He's been in WWE and t and A and Ring
1206
01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:16.880
Kit King and pretty much and the onon NWA television
1207
01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:20.360
when they had it. Pretty much everywhere that a young
1208
01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:22.719
you know, everywhere that wrestlers are looking to go. Here
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01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:27.800
in twenty sixteen. We're taking your calls six four six eight.
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01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:30.920
We're taking your emails. Uh, we're taking your chat groom
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01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:34.440
questions and Twitter questions. Is excuse me? And Twitter questions? Black?
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01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:37.000
All right, Trevor by you ready to Are you ready
1213
01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:41.519
to go with us? You've been here before? Okay, remember
1214
01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:43.280
those of you listening for the first time. Wednesday is
1215
01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:44.880
very simple. You can ask up to three questions. You
1216
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:47.119
can make it but three comments. You can combine them
1217
01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:48.920
as in one question in two comments. But at the
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01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:53.480
end of the days and still a lot. As I'm
1219
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:55.320
working for the people I work for, this is a
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01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:58.000
PG show, minivan friendly, as my boss puts it.
1221
01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:00.480
So waiting for our next caller, we'd like to remind
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01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:03.599
you folks calling in, I'll keep your questions when in
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01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:04.639
the boundaries.
1224
01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:07.159
Of good kay and the adventure begins. We're gonna kick
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01:07:07.159 --> 01:07:09.360
things off today the eight six two area code eight
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01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:11.599
six two. Please state your name in town. You got
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01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:17.239
me Wan cast with Trevor Murrays.
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01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:17.440
Kylin from North New Jersey.
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01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:22.320
Hey, Kylin's back. Welcome back, Kylin. Are you ready to
1230
01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:23.519
talk to Trevor Murrack.
1231
01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:24.599
I sure am.
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01:07:25.079 --> 01:07:30.320
How are you doing Trevor Pat, I'm doing great. It's
1233
01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:33.039
really it's really cold in Missouri right now.
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01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:37.400
Well it's not. It's not too It's not so hot
1235
01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:38.440
in the rest of the country either.
1236
01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:41.239
Yeah, you guys aren't doing so well either.
1237
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:43.440
I'm sorry to hear that.
1238
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:49.159
Okay, go ahead, Colin, Okay.
1239
01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:54.519
Question number one for you, Trevor, what do you feel
1240
01:07:54.960 --> 01:08:04.119
is ask you from today's tag team wrestling divisions in
1241
01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:09.320
all of the major organizations today.
1242
01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:13.840
I only heard part of that question.
1243
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:16.960
What is a skew What, in your opinion, is not
1244
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:19.920
quite as a little bit often the way tag team
1245
01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:20.960
wrestling has done today.
1246
01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:25.439
Oh, I think they need to give tag team wrestling
1247
01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:27.760
a little bit more focused and give them a little
1248
01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:31.880
bit more storytelling. Tag team wrestling used to be the
1249
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:34.640
main event on the card when people would come watch,
1250
01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:36.840
because those guys should go out there for thirty five
1251
01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:41.680
or forty minutes and really entertain the fans. You notice
1252
01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:44.199
now now that they're starting to give tag teams just
1253
01:08:44.239 --> 01:08:46.600
a little bit of a push, a little bit of
1254
01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:50.760
a spotlight, they're really starting to flourish. If they give that,
1255
01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:53.119
give them more, you can really see what the tag
1256
01:08:53.159 --> 01:08:53.920
teams can do.
1257
01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:58.479
Yeah, I mean, I think part of is you have.
1258
01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:00.920
I mean, most every company seem to be able to
1259
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:02.800
come up with a couple of good tag teams on top,
1260
01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:05.119
but you know, you don't really have You're not really
1261
01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:07.159
putting in the depth where you get these good where
1262
01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:09.039
you get to build up new tag teams.
1263
01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:12.159
I think that's well, they need to have a storyline
1264
01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:16.800
and to actually give these guys depths, not just we're
1265
01:09:16.840 --> 01:09:19.439
a team that dislikes you and you dislike me, so
1266
01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:22.920
we're gonna fight. He's got to actually be some character
1267
01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:26.920
development and story involvement that would give these guys some
1268
01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:29.640
depths and character and people would really get behind it
1269
01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:30.600
and know who they are.
1270
01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:34.760
Okay, Colin, what's your next question?
1271
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:42.439
Oh? My second question for you, Trevor. What do you
1272
01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:48.520
think will delineate your school from the more from some
1273
01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:57.079
of the more established wrestling schools out here, let's say
1274
01:09:57.960 --> 01:10:03.000
Landform School or the Lovely Boys School.
1275
01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:04.680
Oh.
1276
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:08.199
I to be honest, there's nothing. I mean, there's nothing
1277
01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:11.159
that I can do. Those guys has done so much
1278
01:10:11.199 --> 01:10:15.720
in this business. I'm not trying to actually separate myself
1279
01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:19.640
from them. With me being in the Kansas City area
1280
01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:22.960
throughout the Midwest, there's nothing like what we're doing in
1281
01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:26.800
this area. So I'm giving the people throughout the Midwest
1282
01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:29.960
an opportunity to learn how to wrestle and learn right
1283
01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:33.119
from the right people. Not to mention, I'm also going
1284
01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:36.479
to have a certified personal trainer on staff there every
1285
01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:40.880
day to work out with these guys. I'm not sure
1286
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:46.920
if other schools have that to offer nowadays, And even
1287
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:49.359
when I was wrestling, I mean, the way you look
1288
01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:52.000
is just as important as the.
1289
01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:52.800
Way you wrestle.
1290
01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:56.479
I wanted to make sure that I had somebody that
1291
01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:59.560
could help deliver that to my students. Not only my students,
1292
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:02.520
but we're open bringing up to as a wrestlers that
1293
01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:06.560
have experience to come in and pay just like a
1294
01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:09.479
regular gym membership, and come in and train in the
1295
01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:12.520
ring whenever they want. When we're open, they can come
1296
01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:14.319
in and work out in the ring from open to
1297
01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:16.600
clothes if they want to, as long as they have
1298
01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:19.159
experience and I note they're not going to hurt themselves
1299
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:20.520
and hurt other people.
1300
01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:24.520
Yeah. Plus, another thing that I've always been told by
1301
01:11:24.560 --> 01:11:28.239
by wrestlers is very important is cardio and anything you
1302
01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:29.920
can do to help build up your cardio is going
1303
01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:34.800
to help you in terms of long term well.
1304
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:37.720
And especially guys are constantly saying this is what I
1305
01:11:37.800 --> 01:11:40.399
hear across the board any independent that I go to
1306
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:42.479
is if we just had a ring, we'd be able
1307
01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:45.760
to we'd come in and work out and cardios, you know,
1308
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:49.079
jogging and running. That's a different cardio compared to being
1309
01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:53.279
in ring cardio ring shape. We're offering this to experience
1310
01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:56.479
wrestlers throughout the area that if you want to come
1311
01:11:56.520 --> 01:11:58.960
in and pay a membership, like I said, and not
1312
01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:02.119
only that, you'll have the gym will be included in
1313
01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:06.159
that membership. So you're already paying let's say a sixty
1314
01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:09.439
dollars gym membership, if you add another twenty dollars on
1315
01:12:09.479 --> 01:12:12.439
that a month, then you can get a ring involved.
1316
01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:13.840
Now you have to come in and train in a
1317
01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:15.560
ring five days a week if you want to.
1318
01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:19.720
Yeah, and that's really going that's like you said, that's
1319
01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:21.319
really gonna help the younger guys.
1320
01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:28.479
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01:12:28.520 --> 01:12:30.880
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1322
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:32.479
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1323
01:12:32.520 --> 01:12:37.239
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1325
01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:43.279
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of what we're saying, and let us know what you
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01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:58.319
want us to talk about and ask us specific questions.
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01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:03.680
Wadkeller Podcast at pet you towards dot com.
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01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:09.000
Kyler, Yeah, I've been willed to find no questions for
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01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:15.600
your trouble. What what is the most valuable in or
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01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:20.880
out of the ring lesson that Harley Race has taught you.
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01:13:24.520 --> 01:13:27.920
Man, there's there's actually a couple of them. One of
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01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:30.960
them has always been, you know, to be a man
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01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:35.520
of my word in this business. If you're not a
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01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:38.000
man of your word, if someone cannot believe that you're
1339
01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:40.000
gonna be where you say you're going to do what
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01:13:40.119 --> 01:13:43.479
you're gonna say you're gonna do, you have nothing in
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01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:47.239
this business. And I tell you when Harley told me that,
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01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:49.920
I heard it, but I really didn't listen to it
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01:13:50.199 --> 01:13:54.319
until I started following that advice, and there's there's nothing
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01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:56.520
worse than not being able to trust the person that
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01:13:56.560 --> 01:14:00.399
you're in the ring with. And to me that that's
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01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:02.920
that's one of the more valuable lessons that Harley taught
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01:14:02.920 --> 01:14:05.680
me is to always be a man of your word.
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01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:07.720
If you're gonna if you say you're gonna do it,
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do it good or bad.
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01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:17.159
Well, there you go, Okay, Callen, all right, thanks, thanks
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01:14:17.239 --> 01:14:20.680
Trevor with a pleasure. Okay, thank you.
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01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:20.840
Sir.
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01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:24.520
Kylin drops off and that opens up a line for
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01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:29.079
you at six four six eight UH Peterpetwich Live cast
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01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:32.239
at gmail dot com. That is another way to reach us. UH.
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Caleb's CEO's On next, we're gonna go to the two
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01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:38.079
four zero area code. Two four oh. Please state your
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01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:40.439
name in town. You're on the live cast with Trevor Murdock.
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01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:43.560
This is Ryan from Crumbling Maryland.
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Hey you doing Ryan?
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Hey?
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01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:46.760
Ryan.
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Question for the first question for Trevor is he has
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the miss bizarre gimmick at your wrestling school as far
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as the.
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Trainees go, I'm currently right now having an open tr out,
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so I don't have anybody with any gimmicks. My main
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focus in the very beginning is to make sure that
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01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:09.800
guys can go in there and lock up properly and
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01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:13.119
learn how to wrestle properly, and then we'll get into
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01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:14.479
the entertainment end of it.
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01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:18.319
Yeah, that sounds kind of like the uh, that sounds
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01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:20.600
kind of like the Jim Cornett approach for Ohio Valley.
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01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:22.960
Your gimme your name is your name is Prett Smith.
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01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:25.680
Your gimmick is that you're a wrestler until until for
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01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:26.520
that And.
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01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:30.159
Well, I mean, if you can't wrestle, that's the thing.
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01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:31.880
If you can't wrestle, how do you plan to get
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01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:35.439
any gimmicks over? That's I mean, you got to have
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01:15:35.479 --> 01:15:36.479
one to do the other.
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01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:40.039
Well, I suppose, I suppose they could be Wildcat Willie
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01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:42.279
and dress up in a costume and fan out T shirts.
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01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:51.840
But yeah, well yeah, okay, but they don't really need
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01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:53.239
to go ahead right, I'm sorry.
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01:15:53.239 --> 01:15:55.319
My second question is about Sean Hanson. You think we'll
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01:15:55.319 --> 01:15:56.840
ever get into it? Gonna be Hall of.
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01:15:56.800 --> 01:16:00.520
Fame man with the network?
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01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:01.239
I hope?
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01:16:01.319 --> 01:16:04.560
So was the network? Anything's possible.
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01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:05.359
I mean, the.
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01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:08.560
Network's introducing a time and an era to kids that
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01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:12.479
they never even knew about or just heard about. So
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I think so. I think he's got a place in it.
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01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:21.560
They've inducted guys that weren't directly affiliated with ww either
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01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:26.880
whole career, So yeah, I think it's totally possible, especially
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with the network.
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Yes, yes, all the butcher got in so I don't remember.
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01:16:35.479 --> 01:16:38.039
I don't know he ever worked at WW a match,
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01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:40.159
So yeah, okay, I'm sorry, go ahead.
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Fell questions about the brainluster. Was there any restrictions on
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01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:48.359
using the brainluster when you were in w like you
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01:16:48.399 --> 01:16:50.079
have to get permission from that move?
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01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:54.600
Well, it wasn't a permission, it was I mean if
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01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:57.039
they if they felt like you couldn't do it properly,
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01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:01.119
they immediately mixed it. Now was everybody their neck injuries?
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01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:04.880
You've you know, AJ's doing it, but it's because he
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01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:09.000
established it somewhere else and he could. They obviously trust
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01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:13.720
him to not hurt anybody. But once once that move
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01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:17.319
hurts somebody, you'll watch it disappear for a while. You know.
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01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:20.399
WWE's you know, they're on top of that stuff. They
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01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:24.359
don't want anything directly towards the neck and the head.
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01:17:24.399 --> 01:17:27.199
They don't like that, especially since the Austin thing. For
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01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:32.880
what I was told, they've been very restricted on That
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01:17:32.920 --> 01:17:33.439
makes sense.
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Okay, Ryan, thanks, thanks Trevor, Thanks, thank you.
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01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:41.399
All right, Ryan drops off and yes, that opens up
1417
01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:44.520
a line for you at six four six seven pw
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01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:46.640
Torch Live cast at gmail dot com. The other way
1419
01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:49.399
to reach us, we're going to go to Uh We're
1420
01:17:49.399 --> 01:17:55.159
going to go to an internet call. Internet caller pulled out. Yeah, uh,
1421
01:17:55.319 --> 01:17:57.520
no area code. You don't. Go ahead and stay your
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01:17:57.560 --> 01:17:59.319
name in town. You're on the live cast with Trever mur.
1423
01:18:00.199 --> 01:18:09.079
Hi's Ryan from England. Hello, Ryan, I loother Ryan. So
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01:18:09.239 --> 01:18:14.600
first question, Trevor, you was talking about where people look.
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01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:18.119
Do you ever think the lots of Kevin Owens will
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01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:18.920
be a world champion?
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01:18:22.359 --> 01:18:22.600
Yes?
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01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:25.600
Give him the right storyline, yes.
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01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:26.319
Uh.
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01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:32.720
Brian Danielson was it is a kept perfect represent representation
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01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:37.399
that he doesn't look like your normal champion. He doesn't
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01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:41.560
look like the champion Vince wants, but everybody wanted to
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01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:46.840
see him be the world champion. Kevin Owens has got
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01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:50.319
something about him that that people want to see right now.
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01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:52.039
People want to see him get beat up.
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01:18:52.920 --> 01:18:53.039
Uh.
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01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:56.239
Given the right storyline, yeah, I think he could be
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a world champion.
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01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:04.840
Okay, Okay, I just obviously was talking about the way
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people look, and obviously he's not the ideal what people
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01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:11.880
might see as a chumpion if you stand what I mean.
1442
01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:17.039
Well, And the thing is, people nowadays are starting to
1443
01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:19.399
realize that you don't have to have a six pack
1444
01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:23.880
and be jacked to have heart. If a man goes
1445
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:27.279
out there and gives everything he's got, people are going
1446
01:19:27.359 --> 01:19:29.000
to follow that and want to be a part of
1447
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:32.159
that and get excited about that and want want that.
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01:19:32.840 --> 01:19:35.039
But it's got to you gotta have the wrestling ability
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01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:36.880
to carry a look like that as well too.
1450
01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:41.319
I totally agree with that. I think that you don't
1451
01:19:41.359 --> 01:19:43.199
really matter what you look like. If you've got it,
1452
01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:43.960
you've got it on you.
1453
01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:47.720
Well, I'm the last person to judging anybody about the
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01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:51.800
way they look, especially when it comes into the ring.
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01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:55.680
I wasn't your average you know, ww mold. I just
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01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:57.560
wanted to make sure when I went out there people
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01:19:57.640 --> 01:19:59.479
thought I was in a fight and that I would
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01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:01.920
hurt my guy that I was wrestling, and then I
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01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:02.479
was angry.
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01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:07.880
All right, this second question, have you ever did you
1461
01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:10.600
ever get into trouble in the buck We've vinced something
1462
01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:11.359
you did now in.
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01:20:11.399 --> 01:20:13.359
The ring on the mic.
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01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:17.159
Oh let me.
1465
01:20:17.239 --> 01:20:18.520
See here, I'm trying to thank you.
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01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:19.279
I don't.
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01:20:20.840 --> 01:20:26.239
You know. Vince is a He's a fickled individual. One
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01:20:26.319 --> 01:20:29.279
day he will tell you that he loves vanilla and
1469
01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:32.399
that it's his favorite chocolate or his favorite ice cream,
1470
01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:34.600
and then you go out there and you give him
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01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:37.920
vanilla and he goes, by god, I like fucking chocolate. Oh,
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01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:41.079
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sorry, watch my language. I like chocolate.
1473
01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:42.760
James cleaned that episode.
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01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:49.800
Sorry, sorry, sorry, chocolate is okay If chocolate is my
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01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:53.199
favorite chocolate. You never knew. And there were times that
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01:20:53.279 --> 01:20:55.199
I would go out there and do what he had
1477
01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:57.960
loved me doing one hundred times before that, come in
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01:20:58.039 --> 01:21:01.039
the back and him look at me and chew my
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01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:03.800
hind end because he didn't think it made sense or
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01:21:03.880 --> 01:21:07.239
he didn't like it. So it's it's, you know, it's
1481
01:21:07.359 --> 01:21:09.399
the nature of the beasts. You know, I'm working for
1482
01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:12.680
a billion dollar company. I get my butt showed on
1483
01:21:12.720 --> 01:21:14.319
a little bit every once in a while. It's just
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01:21:14.399 --> 01:21:17.039
to make me better. I don't hold drudges or take
1485
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:18.039
offense to that stuff.
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01:21:20.760 --> 01:21:21.000
Cool.
1487
01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:26.279
So the question, so you have one more much in
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01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:29.960
WWE against one of the main roster right now, who
1489
01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:33.000
would it be, Oh.
1490
01:21:33.079 --> 01:21:34.479
Man, it would be Ziggler.
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01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:36.920
DOLFH.
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01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:40.000
Ziggler goes out there and gives one hundred percent in
1493
01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:43.319
any match he's in, no matter how long he's out
1494
01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:48.159
there and what he's doing out there. I actually believe
1495
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:52.279
what he's doing when he's in the ring wrestling. In
1496
01:21:52.399 --> 01:21:57.159
my opinion, he's the guy. He's their grace and the whole.
1497
01:21:57.760 --> 01:21:59.960
As soon as they bring him up and elevate him,
1498
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:04.159
people are gonna be behind that. I'm a Dolphinsiggler.
1499
01:22:05.319 --> 01:22:08.960
It's funny because I had a training seminar with Jay
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01:22:09.079 --> 01:22:11.800
Lee for about two a month ago and I asked
1501
01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:13.840
him the same question who we'd like to wrestle. He
1502
01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:19.800
hasn't wrestled yet, and he said Daniel Brian and Dolph Ziggler.
1503
01:22:20.199 --> 01:22:21.560
That was his answer.
1504
01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:21.920
DLP.
1505
01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:23.319
Ziggler was his second guy.
1506
01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:26.880
I think those two would have an awesome match. I
1507
01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:27.840
would love to see that.
1508
01:22:29.720 --> 01:22:32.119
Yeah, thank you.
1509
01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:35.359
Anyway, it's first time I've calleding to this show, so
1510
01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:39.199
I'm the IP list. I'm always on Wade's show. But
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01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:42.800
thanks doing great job and see it speech to you.
1512
01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:48.000
So okay, thank you. Ryan. The other Ryan drops off,
1513
01:22:48.079 --> 01:22:49.479
and that of course opens up a line for you.
1514
01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:54.560
Torch Live cast at gmail dot com the other way
1515
01:22:54.600 --> 01:22:57.800
you can reach us. With Trevor Murdoch, who was putting
1516
01:22:57.840 --> 01:23:01.479
together the Kansas City Pro Wrestling in the pro Wrestling
1517
01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:06.159
school that accompanies it and former WWE World Taking Champion.
1518
01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:11.319
Next week on this very program, we'll be welcoming Hurricane Helms. Heh.
1519
01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:14.960
He's been kind of busy working for TNA and had
1520
01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.119
a big role on last night's episode of Impact and
1521
01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:19.119
apparently will be on next week's Impact as well. So
1522
01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:22.239
Hurricane Helms next week. And Wade Keller has a mystery
1523
01:23:22.279 --> 01:23:25.000
guest tomorrow. That's a mystery because he hasn't told me
1524
01:23:25.039 --> 01:23:28.479
who the guest is, all right, Trevor. Actually, a couple
1525
01:23:28.479 --> 01:23:31.239
of weeks ago, Trevor, we had on a former coworker
1526
01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:35.199
of yours, Nick Dinsmore Eugene, who is doing something similar
1527
01:23:35.239 --> 01:23:38.720
to what you're doing in South Dakota. Jean, how many
1528
01:23:38.800 --> 01:23:41.720
of you know have you found that this is this
1529
01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:44.119
is something that's you know, this is something that's starting
1530
01:23:44.199 --> 01:23:45.960
up again now that wrestling is getting hot.
1531
01:23:47.479 --> 01:23:53.119
Yes, And Nick is an extremely knowledgeable individual and when
1532
01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:55.000
I seen that he was opening up school, I was
1533
01:23:55.079 --> 01:23:59.279
extremely happy for the business. Nick will have a ton
1534
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:02.720
of six seth. He really does know a lot about
1535
01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:05.840
the business in and out of the ring, and anybody
1536
01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:07.439
would be lucky to go train with him.
1537
01:24:08.600 --> 01:24:11.479
Okay, well it seems to be Yeah, seems to be
1538
01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:14.720
off to a good start. Anyway, we're going to go. Actually,
1539
01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:17.439
let's go ahead and take a question from our chat room.
1540
01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:21.039
Let's see what we got here. There we go chatroom
1541
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:24.159
question from Chicky Singer. Who wants to who goes right
1542
01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:26.560
to it? What's your favorite what's your funniest Eugene story?
1543
01:24:28.039 --> 01:24:30.239
Well, what's my funniest Eugene story?
1544
01:24:31.920 --> 01:24:32.159
Man?
1545
01:24:34.399 --> 01:24:36.960
I don't I don't really have a funny Eugene story.
1546
01:24:37.680 --> 01:24:42.199
What amazes me about Nick and Eugene is the two characters,
1547
01:24:42.319 --> 01:24:45.840
how completely the opposite they are. You know, you see
1548
01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:48.439
Eugene go out there and he can wrestle, and he
1549
01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:52.439
plays this simple minded individual. But what I mean a
1550
01:24:52.520 --> 01:24:54.720
lot of people around the world don't know is he's
1551
01:24:54.800 --> 01:24:58.359
probably the most knowledgeable and one of the best wrestlers
1552
01:24:58.960 --> 01:24:59.960
when he steps in the ring.
1553
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:00.640
Uh.
1554
01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:04.359
The guy's an extremely talented dude and uh and and
1555
01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:08.039
a humble nice guy to boot. I can't say enough
1556
01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:10.319
good things about Nick, but I don't have any real
1557
01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:12.319
crazy Eugene stories.
1558
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:16.600
Okay, let's see what do we have here coming in
1559
01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:19.880
from email? Let's uh, let's what the interesting this is
1560
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:24.039
going to be? Richard Richard from Birmingham, England. Let's see
1561
01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:27.159
loves all the podcasts on here on PW torch blah
1562
01:25:27.199 --> 01:25:30.600
blah blah. Do you think that the reason why WB
1563
01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:33.239
is in the place that it is is due to
1564
01:25:33.279 --> 01:25:36.399
the network where so many people can refer to wrestling
1565
01:25:36.439 --> 01:25:38.720
of the past and and compare that to what's going
1566
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:44.399
on now. Well, yeah, yeah, go ahead.
1567
01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:50.119
And it's a little strange question. I mean, it's I
1568
01:25:50.279 --> 01:25:53.680
think wrestling's hot now because of some of that stuff
1569
01:25:54.560 --> 01:25:58.479
and the fact that wrestling, you know, WWE is now
1570
01:25:58.760 --> 01:26:04.439
and and other companies bringing wrestling back if you get
1571
01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:06.840
if you watch don't get me wrong, I mean there's
1572
01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:09.279
three hours of w W TV, But if you watch
1573
01:26:09.359 --> 01:26:12.600
the other programs, they're actually letting these guys go out
1574
01:26:12.640 --> 01:26:15.960
there and put on some damn good matches and put
1575
01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:20.359
in some time and and uh, wrestling is hot because
1576
01:26:20.359 --> 01:26:21.479
they're letting them wrestle.
1577
01:26:22.520 --> 01:26:27.439
In my opinion, well, I think you know, they have problems.
1578
01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:29.560
I think a lot of that problem right now is
1579
01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:32.600
due to is due to you know, is due to
1580
01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:35.119
injuries and not having the depth that they're used to having.
1581
01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:39.399
You know, amazingly, you know, pretty amazing that the rating
1582
01:26:39.520 --> 01:26:42.039
popped last week, and you know the only real difference
1583
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:43.640
is that you know, the Rock was there for twenty
1584
01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:46.359
five minutes, you know, I mean, you start having you know,
1585
01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:48.800
you start having some of the bigger stars and the
1586
01:26:49.119 --> 01:26:52.399
guys who you know, the guys who are who are
1587
01:26:52.520 --> 01:26:55.319
best at working the crowd. I think I think that's
1588
01:26:55.479 --> 01:26:57.960
you know, I think that will eventually improve the rating.
1589
01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:03.479
I mean plus yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead, Yeah.
1590
01:27:03.359 --> 01:27:06.359
Well what the guys being, like you said, is being injured.
1591
01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:09.199
Those guys are out there wrestling, you know, four or
1592
01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:11.239
five nights a week. By the time they get the raw,
1593
01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:15.000
they're getting beat up because they're they're given the fans
1594
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:19.000
everything they've got. I think if they pulled back on
1595
01:27:19.079 --> 01:27:21.520
a couple of shows, they'd have bigger houses where the
1596
01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:24.600
guys should be a little bit more healthy, and they
1597
01:27:24.640 --> 01:27:27.720
would have the stars around for TV when they need them.
1598
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:31.960
M yeah, that's I mean, I was going to ask that,
1599
01:27:32.039 --> 01:27:34.800
how do you you know? I mean, that's is there
1600
01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:37.279
are there any other ways to try and cut down
1601
01:27:37.319 --> 01:27:39.479
on the number of injuries, because you know, I've heard,
1602
01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:43.439
I know Dave Meltzer talked about how they're how guys
1603
01:27:43.479 --> 01:27:45.479
are lifting, and maybe that's called you know, how guys
1604
01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:48.760
are lifting might be causing the rash of shoulder injuries. Uh,
1605
01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:50.960
maybe the you know, some of the bumps that people
1606
01:27:51.039 --> 01:27:53.079
were taking in the past there, you know, Yeah, the
1607
01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:56.199
use of the German souplex dropped a whole lot over
1608
01:27:56.199 --> 01:27:59.439
the past fifteen years. You know, once guys started getting there. Yeah,
1609
01:27:59.479 --> 01:28:03.239
but what's guy started having exerg right, anything else?
1610
01:28:04.079 --> 01:28:07.319
If you well, to be honest with you, I mean
1611
01:28:07.399 --> 01:28:10.119
they in my opinion, ww has now got the best
1612
01:28:10.279 --> 01:28:13.319
doctors and the best facility when it comes to their athletes,
1613
01:28:13.359 --> 01:28:17.159
and they've ever had In my opinion, it's just literally
1614
01:28:17.319 --> 01:28:20.960
repetition of night in, night out. Those guys are taking
1615
01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:23.560
the same bumps and your body is not made to
1616
01:28:23.640 --> 01:28:27.880
do that. There's and there's only so much you can train,
1617
01:28:28.039 --> 01:28:31.680
and there's only so much that that you can prevent,
1618
01:28:32.079 --> 01:28:34.840
you know, do to prevent some of those injuries. Those
1619
01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:37.680
guys are really putting their bodies on the line nowadays
1620
01:28:37.720 --> 01:28:41.960
compared to back. Then people a little less cautious, are
1621
01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:42.960
a little more cautious.
1622
01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:54.039
Are you a fan of AW looking to sit back,
1623
01:28:54.239 --> 01:28:57.279
relax and listen to some like minded podcasters who share
1624
01:28:57.319 --> 01:28:57.800
your passion.
1625
01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:00.199
Do you want to be topped off the ledge after
1626
01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:02.479
a segment that has you wondering what the heck are
1627
01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:03.000
they thinking?
1628
01:29:03.640 --> 01:29:05.920
Do you want to join a discussion on what AW
1629
01:29:06.199 --> 01:29:08.600
is doing right and what they could do to improve?
1630
01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:11.560
Then join me Joel and me Greg for the All
1631
01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:14.479
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1636
01:29:38.920 --> 01:29:42.359
And there could be something else. I think, Yeah, I
1637
01:29:42.600 --> 01:29:45.640
think I'm trying to remember who was talking to us
1638
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:49.079
about this, But you know, guys, guys used to if
1639
01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:51.079
they were making good money, they used to work through
1640
01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:54.359
being injured. And then that's not something that's you know,
1641
01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:56.560
that's not something that's really as much of an option
1642
01:29:56.680 --> 01:29:58.399
with the doctors checking on you the way they are
1643
01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:00.199
well that.
1644
01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:02.119
And they'll pully it. I mean, as soon as they
1645
01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:04.520
think that you're going to hurt your I mean they
1646
01:30:04.840 --> 01:30:08.079
pull you that. The guys have no more there is
1647
01:30:08.159 --> 01:30:11.960
no more control you are and no sounds sad, but
1648
01:30:12.079 --> 01:30:15.000
it means you are what wwe You do what they
1649
01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:18.119
tell you? You know what I mean, it's there is
1650
01:30:18.239 --> 01:30:20.920
no manning up anymore. You're not getting an opportunity to
1651
01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:21.399
man up.
1652
01:30:25.640 --> 01:30:28.720
Yeah, I mean, I know he's ready to example. He
1653
01:30:28.880 --> 01:30:31.279
is the perfect example. But I mean they're starting to
1654
01:30:31.359 --> 01:30:33.640
treat these you know, I mean it sounds corporate, but
1655
01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:36.359
they're starting to treat the wrestlers like these guys are assets.
1656
01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:38.760
We can't afford to have them, you know, we can't
1657
01:30:38.760 --> 01:30:41.760
afford to have them hurting themselves worse when they're when
1658
01:30:41.800 --> 01:30:44.399
they can just be you know, and and and then
1659
01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:46.800
getting career ending injuries when it's easier to rest them
1660
01:30:46.880 --> 01:30:47.560
up from time to time.
1661
01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:51.399
Well, and if they just backed off on a couple
1662
01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:54.079
of shows a week, they wouldn't. I honestly think that
1663
01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:56.800
they would prevent a lot of this. But when you've
1664
01:30:56.840 --> 01:30:59.920
got a corporate machine running like that, that need to
1665
01:31:00.239 --> 01:31:04.039
thinking about the bottom dollar, not making money is not
1666
01:31:04.159 --> 01:31:04.600
an option.
1667
01:31:06.600 --> 01:31:11.239
I imagine it's not. They also, I mean Dave also,
1668
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:14.159
I mean if you count NXT's Florida shows, they're also
1669
01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:18.560
running four tours. That's uh, you know that that I
1670
01:31:18.680 --> 01:31:21.000
think that takes a little bit more roster depth than
1671
01:31:21.119 --> 01:31:24.680
what they what they have at the moment. But that's
1672
01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:28.279
really yeah, okay, let's go back to let's go back
1673
01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:31.039
to another time of the question. Are most of the
1674
01:31:31.199 --> 01:31:34.920
cowboy gimmick wrestlers really true cowboys in real life? Like
1675
01:31:35.520 --> 01:31:38.520
he gives examples of Jim Ross, JBL and Wild Bill Irwin.
1676
01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:43.520
Yes, And I mean JBL may put a suit on,
1677
01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:47.319
but he still wears boots. I mean, still he's still country.
1678
01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:52.359
Uh yeah, that's I don't know, it's you know, even
1679
01:31:52.439 --> 01:31:56.039
Billy Gunn with him doing what was it smoking guns.
1680
01:31:56.119 --> 01:31:57.600
I mean when you talk to that guy, you know
1681
01:31:57.720 --> 01:32:01.319
he's from the South, he's still country. Uh. You really
1682
01:32:01.399 --> 01:32:04.039
can't fake that kind of gimmick, to be honest with you.
1683
01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:07.399
Yeah, that's you know, that's that's something you can't really.
1684
01:32:07.560 --> 01:32:09.399
I mean, if you put that on somebody as a
1685
01:32:09.479 --> 01:32:11.119
goof you know, people will be able to spot it
1686
01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:11.560
right away.
1687
01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:14.640
So yeah, and it's you know, and to be honest
1688
01:32:14.680 --> 01:32:17.079
with you, I mean, it's no different than any other gimmick.
1689
01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:21.359
It's just a part of us amped up twenty fold
1690
01:32:22.800 --> 01:32:25.359
to stand out as a character in that time.
1691
01:32:26.960 --> 01:32:31.600
Okay, six four six eight. Talking with Trevor Murdoch, former
1692
01:32:32.039 --> 01:32:35.720
w W Tag Team Champion of the World. Another email
1693
01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:38.880
question from our man Richard, who wanted to know when
1694
01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:41.479
brack Lsner was champion last year, he made the WW
1695
01:32:41.720 --> 01:32:44.800
title feel special. How do you think WW can make
1696
01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:46.640
the title feel like the main draw again?
1697
01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:55.359
Hmmm, man, that's that's a really good question. I mean,
1698
01:32:55.760 --> 01:32:59.520
they've got to give the fans what they want. I
1699
01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:04.000
don't know if the fans actually want Roman Reigns as
1700
01:33:04.239 --> 01:33:07.640
the man right now. I'm not saying anything against the
1701
01:33:07.720 --> 01:33:15.560
man right well, what I'm saying is, you know what
1702
01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:19.640
I mean, they're looking as in my opinion, at Roman
1703
01:33:19.720 --> 01:33:24.439
Range as the next John Cena. And just like John Cena,
1704
01:33:24.520 --> 01:33:26.560
he had his you know, his bumps and bruises and
1705
01:33:26.680 --> 01:33:29.479
took him took the people a little while to uh
1706
01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:31.640
to like John as well too.
1707
01:33:34.039 --> 01:33:34.760
I I don't know.
1708
01:33:34.880 --> 01:33:36.760
I think they've got to find that one guy that
1709
01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:40.199
everybody wants to get behind, it wants to see I
1710
01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:44.000
throw in again, Dolph Ziggler. If they put the belt
1711
01:33:44.079 --> 01:33:46.000
on him and run an angle with him, I think
1712
01:33:46.079 --> 01:33:49.479
people would get behind him, you know, closely to what
1713
01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:54.159
they did with Brian Danielson. Right now. I think the
1714
01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:57.000
people feel a little cheated with Trip, you know, with
1715
01:33:57.119 --> 01:34:01.239
Hunter having the title. But everybody also got to understand
1716
01:34:01.319 --> 01:34:04.560
that this is a it's a storyline. It's you know,
1717
01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:08.720
it's their job to make you angry, and they're they're
1718
01:34:08.800 --> 01:34:11.600
doing their best to try to find to be the
1719
01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:13.880
biggest bad guys. So you love Roman.
1720
01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:18.199
Well, I do understand that. I mean, I mean, I
1721
01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:22.000
think part of it is you have u w W
1722
01:34:22.359 --> 01:34:24.399
really has one way that they want to have a
1723
01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:26.960
champion that you know, when when Kevin Nash was Diesel
1724
01:34:26.960 --> 01:34:28.960
and he was champion, they tried to book him like
1725
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:31.199
he was hul Cogan and he wasn't whole Cogan, he
1726
01:34:31.239 --> 01:34:33.840
was Kevin Nash. I think, you know, I think that
1727
01:34:34.159 --> 01:34:37.000
I think you can't book Roman Reigns the same way
1728
01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:39.960
as John Cena. I mean, Roman Reigns from all accounts
1729
01:34:40.079 --> 01:34:43.359
is you know is a very is a funny and
1730
01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:45.880
smart guy and you're not getting and you're not getting
1731
01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:46.720
to see a lot of that.
1732
01:34:47.399 --> 01:34:50.960
No, and I mean back in the day they were
1733
01:34:51.439 --> 01:34:54.079
they would tell guys, hey, this is the storyline, this
1734
01:34:54.199 --> 01:34:55.600
is what we want you to talk about it, and
1735
01:34:55.640 --> 01:34:59.680
they would let the character come out. And everything now
1736
01:34:59.880 --> 01:35:04.119
is so scripted and so curtailed, and this is what
1737
01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:06.000
you need to say that you're not able to get
1738
01:35:06.039 --> 01:35:08.479
that real passion and that real emotion out of an
1739
01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:11.880
individual until they go off script. And when they go
1740
01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:14.000
off script, two things are going to happen. If it
1741
01:35:14.079 --> 01:35:16.119
gets over, you get a pat on the back when
1742
01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:18.359
you go back, But if they blew you and out
1743
01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:21.239
of the building, well walking through that curtain is going
1744
01:35:21.279 --> 01:35:22.880
to be a little tougher than what the crowd just
1745
01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:26.079
gave you, you know what I mean. Oh yeah, there's
1746
01:35:26.119 --> 01:35:29.600
a few guys that go off script and do what
1747
01:35:29.680 --> 01:35:32.319
they got to do to get over. We need more
1748
01:35:32.359 --> 01:35:35.319
of those guys, that's true.
1749
01:35:35.319 --> 01:35:37.000
There aren't a lot of guys who are trusted to
1750
01:35:37.079 --> 01:35:40.560
do that. And when you were there and this was
1751
01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:43.880
but I don't know, we're going on seven eight years ago.
1752
01:35:44.640 --> 01:35:47.079
Was it like that, whether the tight scripting or were
1753
01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:48.039
you getting bullet points?
1754
01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:55.439
It was it was tight scripted until they felt comfortable
1755
01:35:55.479 --> 01:35:57.960
with you and their character that what you were saying
1756
01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:02.560
fit your character. They're very you know, they're very nervous
1757
01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:06.079
of anybody unless you just unless you've gotten over somewhere
1758
01:36:06.119 --> 01:36:10.119
else comfortable on the mic with a gimmick already, but
1759
01:36:10.279 --> 01:36:12.840
they have, they will tell you, you know, they'll come
1760
01:36:12.880 --> 01:36:15.640
with you with a sheet. This is what we wants
1761
01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:18.640
you to say. I would take I would actually grab
1762
01:36:18.720 --> 01:36:22.399
the sheet and walk away and read it ten fifteen
1763
01:36:22.520 --> 01:36:25.000
times over and over and try to make it my
1764
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:27.560
own where I could still get across what they wanted.
1765
01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:30.680
But what didn't sound like a guy just sat down
1766
01:36:30.760 --> 01:36:31.479
and wrote.
1767
01:36:31.199 --> 01:36:31.840
It out for me.
1768
01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:36.479
I no, that, I mean, that's what you that's kind
1769
01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:38.359
of I think that's better. I think you just you know,
1770
01:36:38.800 --> 01:36:40.800
I think you just give guys the points that you
1771
01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:44.319
want to get, want them to get across, and and
1772
01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:46.439
hopefully they can find a way to do it or
1773
01:36:46.479 --> 01:36:47.720
they won't be around very.
1774
01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:51.199
Long, all right, trust your talent?
1775
01:36:52.640 --> 01:36:55.760
Yeah, yeah, I think so. And you know, when when
1776
01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:58.920
Micro got hot, you know, guys would you know, wrestlers
1777
01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:02.319
were even on the undercard, they were getting to cut promos,
1778
01:37:02.399 --> 01:37:04.079
you know, live in the ring after they you know,
1779
01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:06.119
live outside the ring with Geene Oakland. If they just
1780
01:37:06.159 --> 01:37:09.720
got done wrestling a match and that's that helped develop them,
1781
01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:12.760
I mean, you can't. You know, guys need to guys needs.
1782
01:37:12.880 --> 01:37:15.159
Guys need to practice wrestling in order to wrestle and
1783
01:37:15.239 --> 01:37:17.439
have lots of matches. Guys need to, you know, cut
1784
01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:20.680
promos in order to get better at it. All right,
1785
01:37:21.239 --> 01:37:23.359
question for the chat room. How often have you been
1786
01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:25.079
in Texas bull rope matches?
1787
01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:32.199
I believe I've had four of them so far. It
1788
01:37:32.359 --> 01:37:34.720
seems as every time I go down to the South,
1789
01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:37.000
somebody wants to put me in a bull rope match.
1790
01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:40.199
I went and did a shot in Georgia a while back,
1791
01:37:41.159 --> 01:37:43.960
and hey, can you come in and do a Dusty
1792
01:37:44.079 --> 01:37:47.880
Roads Bullrope Invitational match? Sure?
1793
01:37:50.880 --> 01:37:53.720
Well, the lst question is sure. Any answer has to
1794
01:37:53.760 --> 01:37:55.359
be sure, do you guys have a bull rope because
1795
01:37:55.399 --> 01:37:57.399
I'm not gonna be able to get that through airport security.
1796
01:37:58.319 --> 01:38:00.880
Oh yeah, that's I mean, there has to be a big,
1797
01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:03.680
long talk about it, And to be honest with you,
1798
01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:06.640
I've I've been asked more than more times than what
1799
01:38:06.680 --> 01:38:09.920
I've done. Because a bull rope match is supposed to
1800
01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:13.439
be leading up from something in an angle, not just hey,
1801
01:38:13.640 --> 01:38:16.680
come to the show because these two guys are to
1802
01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:20.439
a rope and beating. We're trying to sell tickets. So yeah,
1803
01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:22.760
that's just now how I do business.
1804
01:38:24.600 --> 01:38:27.760
Well, you're going to be involved in putting together local shows.
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01:38:28.159 --> 01:38:30.000
I mean you've studied how to do it, you know.
1806
01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:31.960
I mean Harley Race is put on local shows for
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01:38:32.039 --> 01:38:34.520
a while and you've been a part of that. What
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01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:37.640
do you think are the areas that what do you
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01:38:37.680 --> 01:38:40.159
think of the areas that your shows will have that
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01:38:40.319 --> 01:38:43.119
you know, maybe will be uh, maybe we'll be different
1811
01:38:43.159 --> 01:38:44.640
from what you're seeing out there.
1812
01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:49.119
Well, the thing is, I'm not That's one of the
1813
01:38:49.199 --> 01:38:53.359
reasons why we've partnered up with Metro Pro Wrestling. Okay,
1814
01:38:53.479 --> 01:38:56.960
we're we're not going to be running any shows directly.
1815
01:38:57.399 --> 01:39:00.439
We don't want to be any competition with anybody. We
1816
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:03.560
solely want to be here to help wrestlers get better
1817
01:39:03.720 --> 01:39:07.119
and for other promotions to find local talent, if not
1818
01:39:07.560 --> 01:39:12.960
hidden talent that they want for their promotions. Putting on
1819
01:39:13.079 --> 01:39:17.760
a show is a whole nother beast, and I do
1820
01:39:17.920 --> 01:39:21.600
not want that stress and that confusion. I want to
1821
01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:24.720
be able to focus on the guys there and give
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01:39:24.760 --> 01:39:26.920
them one hundred and ten percent of what I have.
1823
01:39:27.720 --> 01:39:30.520
That's the one thing that I'm hoping they'll set me
1824
01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:33.520
out to be different from everybody else's. I'm going to
1825
01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:36.520
be there five days a week. You're going to be
1826
01:39:36.560 --> 01:39:39.560
able to train with me every day, talk to me
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01:39:39.920 --> 01:39:43.279
and learn from from what I've learned, and try to
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01:39:43.319 --> 01:39:44.239
get yourself better.
1829
01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:47.520
Okay, so you're trying to avoid a lot of for
1830
01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:49.319
one of a better term, indie politics.
1831
01:39:50.640 --> 01:39:56.119
Yes, sir, you're absolutely co wrecked. Okay, Putting on a
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01:39:56.199 --> 01:39:59.520
show is a whole other beast and a whole nother
1833
01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:01.039
lifetime of work.
1834
01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:07.359
Any part of that, all right, Well, there's no question
1835
01:40:07.680 --> 01:40:11.439
from Richard from England. Start one. When Finn Bella gets
1836
01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:13.520
the main roster, do you think Vince will ruin him
1837
01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:15.640
like the others that have come from NXT or would
1838
01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:17.720
he keep him as a special attraction and protect him?
1839
01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:21.399
You know, I don't. I'm going to take issue with
1840
01:40:21.479 --> 01:40:24.079
the first part of that, with him ruining guys that
1841
01:40:24.159 --> 01:40:26.640
came from NXT. Pretty much everybody that's coming up is
1842
01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:29.760
coming from NXT, and I don't want to be saying that,
1843
01:40:29.880 --> 01:40:32.760
you know, Vince ruined Roman reigns. He ruined, Seth Rollins
1844
01:40:33.119 --> 01:40:37.479
and Dean Ambrose, that's Pray Wyatt, that's you know, that's
1845
01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:39.359
not exactly the way I see it. I don't think
1846
01:40:39.399 --> 01:40:42.920
that they've been treated any differently than I think. I
1847
01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:45.399
think that that those wrestlers have had the same problem
1848
01:40:45.479 --> 01:40:47.000
that all the other wrestlers have had with, you know,
1849
01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:49.119
putting on a three hour show every Monday night and
1850
01:40:49.199 --> 01:40:50.039
trying to keep it fresh.
1851
01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:52.920
Well, do you think the.
1852
01:40:52.960 --> 01:40:56.439
Fact is that the fans need to understand that this
1853
01:40:56.560 --> 01:41:00.520
is a complete different setting. When they see them in NXT,
1854
01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:04.159
it's more it's a smaller venue, it's a more tighter,
1855
01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:07.399
homier venue. And then when you see those stars walk
1856
01:41:07.479 --> 01:41:10.079
out on RAW, it's it seems like they're in a
1857
01:41:10.199 --> 01:41:13.359
different setting. If they would just give them time, then
1858
01:41:14.039 --> 01:41:16.000
I'm telling you they're not bringing those guys up just
1859
01:41:16.079 --> 01:41:19.439
to waste them. And I certainly don't think Hunter would
1860
01:41:19.600 --> 01:41:24.119
would let that happen because right now NXT is his baby,
1861
01:41:24.199 --> 01:41:29.159
and anybody that gets brought up the representation of that.
1862
01:41:30.239 --> 01:41:33.640
Some guys get over in bigger markets, some guys get
1863
01:41:33.680 --> 01:41:38.039
over in smaller markets. It's it's a weird thing, but
1864
01:41:38.159 --> 01:41:41.239
it's I wouldn't completely blame that home on the company.
1865
01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:45.560
Yeah, I don't think. I mean, I've heard that they
1866
01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:47.439
want to bring up thin Valor, but I don't think
1867
01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:49.520
they want to bring up spin Balor so he can fail.
1868
01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:51.760
I mean they they want to bring up thin Ballor
1869
01:41:51.840 --> 01:41:53.960
so they can sell lots of thin Ballor masks and
1870
01:41:54.079 --> 01:41:55.439
T shirts and all that stuff.
1871
01:41:56.800 --> 01:41:58.720
Well, and that comes with the whole he's got to
1872
01:41:58.760 --> 01:42:02.000
do the whole gimmick to do that. Yeah, I think
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01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:05.159
they're just waiting for the right time. I also think
1874
01:42:05.239 --> 01:42:10.359
that he is still needed in NXT, so there's there's
1875
01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:14.079
a right you know, WW. As as many fails as
1876
01:42:14.199 --> 01:42:18.039
they've had, they've also had positives too, And when they've
1877
01:42:18.039 --> 01:42:20.319
placed the guy in the right place at the right
1878
01:42:20.479 --> 01:42:23.720
time and he's gotten over the way he's supposed to.
1879
01:42:24.399 --> 01:42:26.239
To me, is very easy for us to look back
1880
01:42:26.279 --> 01:42:27.880
on WW and know where they should have done this,
1881
01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:30.880
and they didn't do that, they didn't do this. We
1882
01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:33.119
need to also talk about what they have done too.
1883
01:42:33.239 --> 01:42:36.039
And I really do think that they're waiting to put
1884
01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:38.439
him in the right place at the right time. And
1885
01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:40.319
he's a guy that I can see pop up at it,
1886
01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:44.039
you know, towards a WrestleMania match and and have an
1887
01:42:44.079 --> 01:42:47.000
excellent WrestleMania match and get to be on the main
1888
01:42:47.119 --> 01:42:50.279
roster the next night. We've seen that as well too.
1889
01:42:51.960 --> 01:42:55.159
Okay, yeah, and you know you talk about the guys
1890
01:42:55.199 --> 01:42:57.039
who failed, well, first of all, not everybody can be
1891
01:42:57.079 --> 01:42:58.840
in the main event. And you've also got to look
1892
01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:02.359
at the guys you know that yet you thought they're
1893
01:43:02.399 --> 01:43:04.960
never going to get that over, and they get over.
1894
01:43:05.079 --> 01:43:07.560
I think the New Day is probably the best example
1895
01:43:07.600 --> 01:43:09.800
of that. They were you know, they took the opportunity,
1896
01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:11.840
they were able to get themselves over to the point
1897
01:43:11.880 --> 01:43:13.840
that you know, they're they're one of the reasons people
1898
01:43:13.880 --> 01:43:14.600
go to see the show.
1899
01:43:16.159 --> 01:43:17.760
Not to me, I mean, they were in the main
1900
01:43:17.840 --> 01:43:20.840
event last week. I mean that's what everybody's goal is,
1901
01:43:21.159 --> 01:43:25.159
in that main event match on roll and they are
1902
01:43:25.560 --> 01:43:31.000
and they're wearing unicorn prostises on their fore.
1903
01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:35.000
Yeah, I mean yeah. I mean when you when you go,
1904
01:43:35.840 --> 01:43:37.359
when you go and you plan out your gimmick and
1905
01:43:37.439 --> 01:43:39.119
you talk to and you talk to the office, yeah,
1906
01:43:39.119 --> 01:43:41.239
we're going to come out with unicorn horns, you'd they
1907
01:43:41.560 --> 01:43:44.399
probably would not have done for that right away. I
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01:43:44.800 --> 01:43:46.640
definitely definitely understand that.
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01:44:22.359 --> 01:44:22.840
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01:44:25.640 --> 01:44:28.720
Okay, email, let's see what we have here. We've got
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01:44:30.439 --> 01:44:33.439
Andy from Andy from Saint Louis, Love the podcast, Love
1925
01:44:33.560 --> 01:44:35.880
James Love Wade. I think Roman rings will turn heel
1926
01:44:35.960 --> 01:44:38.800
at fast Lane and we'll have Roman and Dean at
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01:44:38.800 --> 01:44:42.439
WrestleMania and Brock Wrestling Triple h Okay, that's more of
1928
01:44:42.479 --> 01:44:46.039
a comment. But you know, I'm pretty sure at some
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01:44:46.159 --> 01:44:48.359
point we're going to get Roman reigns against Dean Ambrose.
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01:44:48.359 --> 01:44:50.520
I'm just not sure it's going to be at WrestleMania,
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01:44:50.640 --> 01:44:51.600
like this guy thinks.
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01:44:52.479 --> 01:44:56.359
Yeah, I don't think it is either. They're my opinion.
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01:44:56.600 --> 01:45:00.680
WWE's goal is to elevate Roman reigns. That's the whole
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01:45:00.720 --> 01:45:02.560
thing is. You know, the only way he can do
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01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:05.039
that is if he's in the main to get somebody
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01:45:05.159 --> 01:45:08.680
bigger than him for him to beat. And I don't
1937
01:45:08.720 --> 01:45:11.520
know if Dean is in that position, and I don't
1938
01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:13.720
think it would be good for Dean either. Could be
1939
01:45:13.760 --> 01:45:17.039
absolutely honest with you. He doesn't need to be on
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01:45:17.119 --> 01:45:18.520
to lose an end of anything right now.
1941
01:45:18.880 --> 01:45:22.520
Really, I'm sure after WrestleMania there's plenty of time to
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01:45:22.640 --> 01:45:24.760
have Dean turn on Roman, or Roman turn on Dean,
1943
01:45:24.880 --> 01:45:27.560
or maybe they just get Vessel for the title. Anyway,
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I mean, that's yeah, that's that's not anything. I don't
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01:45:31.199 --> 01:45:32.720
think that's anything we're going to see in the next
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01:45:32.760 --> 01:45:35.319
couple of months. Okay, let's see what else we have
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01:45:35.439 --> 01:45:39.479
out here. Okay, well, this isn't really a question, but
1948
01:45:39.960 --> 01:45:45.000
we've got uh got the reader reading in about Blackjack Mulligan.
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01:45:46.840 --> 01:45:49.279
I mean, did you get to you get to spend
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01:45:49.319 --> 01:45:53.920
any time with uh with Blackjack's grandkids who are right
1951
01:45:54.000 --> 01:45:56.760
now in ww with with Bray Wyatt and Bo Dallas.
1952
01:45:58.239 --> 01:46:00.800
No, I got the time. The people I got to
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01:46:00.840 --> 01:46:04.640
spend with was Mike Rotunda and Berry Windham. They were
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01:46:04.720 --> 01:46:07.920
both agents at the time. And you know, I'm I'm
1955
01:46:08.000 --> 01:46:11.199
a huge mark for just old school wrestling, So it
1956
01:46:11.800 --> 01:46:14.079
wasn't nothing for me to be walking up to Bury
1957
01:46:14.159 --> 01:46:17.000
and sit down and just got done watching the match
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01:46:17.319 --> 01:46:20.079
of his at Starcate or something and go sit down
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01:46:20.119 --> 01:46:22.840
and go up to him, go so how did this
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01:46:22.960 --> 01:46:26.000
match go? And and hit him up for what was
1961
01:46:26.079 --> 01:46:30.159
going on? You know that those that whole family there
1962
01:46:30.279 --> 01:46:34.880
is is they've been wrestling for centuries and you can't
1963
01:46:35.119 --> 01:46:36.600
you can't help but want to go up and ask
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01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:42.439
them questions and have knowledge. I can't say enough good
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01:46:42.520 --> 01:46:43.199
things about them.
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01:46:44.760 --> 01:46:46.920
Okay, in addition to them, who else do you think we're?
1967
01:46:47.600 --> 01:46:49.840
Who else were really helpful to you? In terms of
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01:46:50.239 --> 01:46:51.880
people backstage at ww.
1969
01:46:51.720 --> 01:46:56.279
A, arn Anderson was my was my go to guy.
1970
01:46:57.239 --> 01:46:59.840
He and the reason was because I felt more comfortable
1971
01:46:59.880 --> 01:47:01.920
with him than I did with anybody else. I mean,
1972
01:47:02.720 --> 01:47:07.720
Arn was he shot you straight and gave you straight answers. No,
1973
01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:10.600
you know, and in a company where everybody's kind of
1974
01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:13.800
passing the buck to somebody else. It was very refreshing
1975
01:47:13.880 --> 01:47:17.239
and comforting to know that I wouldn't I wouldn't get smoke,
1976
01:47:17.760 --> 01:47:20.199
you know both, you know what I mean? Uh yeah,
1977
01:47:21.079 --> 01:47:26.600
And not to mention the knowledge that man has. For example,
1978
01:47:26.680 --> 01:47:29.319
one time, Lance and I were wanting to do something
1979
01:47:29.439 --> 01:47:31.920
with the something different with the Highlanders, and we were
1980
01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:34.840
just stuck when it came to psychology and gimmicks, and
1981
01:47:35.399 --> 01:47:36.680
we sat down next to Arn.
1982
01:47:36.800 --> 01:47:37.880
We were at the Hall of Fame.
1983
01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:40.960
Lance and I sat down on the steps right next
1984
01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:43.880
to arn nsc and said, you know, we don't know
1985
01:47:43.960 --> 01:47:46.159
what to do with these guys. We're kind of drawing
1986
01:47:46.199 --> 01:47:49.239
a blank. And he goes, well, if I was you,
1987
01:47:49.800 --> 01:47:53.720
I'm working like the sheep hurders. And as you know
1988
01:47:53.800 --> 01:48:00.760
who the Sheepburgers are, the bushwhackers, And they just clicked
1989
01:48:00.840 --> 01:48:03.840
for us. Oh well that okay. Now that now that changes,
1990
01:48:03.960 --> 01:48:07.159
That makes complete sense. That changes the game. And Lance
1991
01:48:07.199 --> 01:48:08.720
and I were able to come up with this and
1992
01:48:08.840 --> 01:48:11.359
that and and all kinds of spots for those guys
1993
01:48:11.520 --> 01:48:14.479
to get their character over, but also still make us
1994
01:48:14.560 --> 01:48:17.640
look strong as well too, you know. So Arn was
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01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:21.199
was my go to guy the other guy was probably
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01:48:21.279 --> 01:48:25.960
shown at that that his last big run. You know,
1997
01:48:26.159 --> 01:48:29.800
he was trying to stay low key. So with Lance
1998
01:48:29.840 --> 01:48:32.079
and I we you know, he rode with us to
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01:48:32.319 --> 01:48:35.399
you know, on on trips to shows, and we would
2000
01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:37.239
we hit him up with you know, we hit him
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01:48:37.279 --> 01:48:39.720
up with every question, you know, the Canadian screw job,
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01:48:39.840 --> 01:48:41.800
all of it. He was an open book to us
2003
01:48:41.880 --> 01:48:45.479
and honest and watched our matches and actually went to
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01:48:45.560 --> 01:48:47.079
the office. He was the one that went to the
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01:48:47.199 --> 01:48:50.800
office events and fought for the angle when d X
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01:48:50.920 --> 01:48:54.279
came back to have their first run with us. So,
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01:48:54.439 --> 01:48:56.119
I mean, if it wasn't for him when they got
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01:48:56.199 --> 01:48:59.680
that opportunity and that exposure, well.
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That's that's it's good. Let's do okay. I'm also looking
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01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:05.359
over our site. On the news today, there's a story
2011
01:49:05.399 --> 01:49:08.600
on TMZ about Crime Time looking to return to w W.
2012
01:49:09.920 --> 01:49:12.279
We had JTG on the show a few weeks ago,
2013
01:49:12.359 --> 01:49:17.039
actually actually back before Christmas and uh he uh. He
2014
01:49:17.119 --> 01:49:20.279
didn't talk about it much, but apparently you you and
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01:49:21.119 --> 01:49:23.359
he and Shad butted heads with you and Lance caid
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01:49:23.399 --> 01:49:23.960
once or twice.
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01:49:25.439 --> 01:49:29.600
Yes, and he even went on Jericho's podcast about a
2018
01:49:29.720 --> 01:49:33.640
certain incident whereas they they bumped the referee and they
2019
01:49:33.680 --> 01:49:34.279
got fired.
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01:49:35.720 --> 01:49:40.039
Yeah that's yeah, they did j.
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01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:44.800
Yes, and even put it in paperback. But what he
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01:49:44.920 --> 01:49:50.680
doesn't he's not telling the story correctly. It's number one. Yeah,
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01:49:51.640 --> 01:49:55.159
he's actually blowing smoke up everybody's first He says that
2024
01:49:55.279 --> 01:49:58.800
we had we were incohots with the referee to go
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01:49:58.920 --> 01:50:01.880
over to win them match. Well, what he doesn't tell
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01:50:01.960 --> 01:50:03.920
anybody is the fact that me and Lance were the
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01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:07.159
tag champs and we were going over anyway with our finish.
2028
01:50:07.840 --> 01:50:13.720
So if we were into hoots with the referee and
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01:50:13.840 --> 01:50:18.800
the booker, yes, but if okay, And their other argument
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was that they heard me yelling at the referee to
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count faster. That's why they believe we were into hoots
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with the referee. But if anybody was any I mean,
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01:50:27.920 --> 01:50:31.920
I'm talking two days, two days of knowledge of pro wrestling.
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01:50:32.439 --> 01:50:33.199
I am a heel.
2035
01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:35.840
I am not going to tell the referee to slow
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01:50:35.960 --> 01:50:39.039
down the count when the baby faces on the outside
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01:50:39.079 --> 01:50:40.920
the ring, I'm going to tell him speed it up.
2038
01:50:40.920 --> 01:50:42.960
Come on, ref, come on, come on, come on, come on, hey,
2039
01:50:43.079 --> 01:50:47.399
come on, come on ref. That is their argument. Bottom
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01:50:47.520 --> 01:50:50.000
line is we did a spot that Lance and I
2041
01:50:50.159 --> 01:50:52.439
do every time in the match where Lance shoots the
2042
01:50:52.520 --> 01:50:56.000
guy off, picks him up for an inverted atomic drop,
2043
01:50:56.079 --> 01:50:58.840
and holds him. I hit the ropes and give the
2044
01:50:58.880 --> 01:51:01.680
guy a big boot while Lances hold him. It's a
2045
01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:05.199
heel double team move. Usually the babyface rolls out of
2046
01:51:05.239 --> 01:51:10.680
the ring and they get the emotional six seven A
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01:51:11.199 --> 01:51:12.520
and they roll back in the ring.
2048
01:51:13.600 --> 01:51:13.720
Well.
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01:51:13.880 --> 01:51:17.159
WWE was very was on top of the referees at
2050
01:51:17.159 --> 01:51:19.880
the time because guys were kicking out at three and
2051
01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:22.399
a quarter and the refs weren't counting it, and they
2052
01:51:22.399 --> 01:51:25.159
were getting a ton of heat from the crowd, so
2053
01:51:25.319 --> 01:51:27.640
they were on the refs. If the guys are out,
2054
01:51:27.920 --> 01:51:31.920
they're out. If they count three, they're pinned. So we
2055
01:51:32.119 --> 01:51:39.840
do the spot. JTG rolls out six seven eight, No
2056
01:51:40.039 --> 01:51:45.439
JTG nine, no JTG ten. He pops up eleven, he
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01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:47.479
rolls into the ring. Well at ten, the ref already
2058
01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:52.199
run the bell. Yeah, it wasn't our fault. He didn't
2059
01:51:52.199 --> 01:51:54.279
get in the ring fast enough because you weren't paying attention.
2060
01:51:55.119 --> 01:51:58.760
I turned around, my partner's screaming, what just happened? What
2061
01:51:59.079 --> 01:52:01.520
just happened. The only thing I could do was raise
2062
01:52:01.640 --> 01:52:04.640
my hands and go we just won. And he started
2063
01:52:04.760 --> 01:52:08.159
laughing because we won the match because he wasn't paying attention,
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01:52:08.439 --> 01:52:10.600
he didn't get in the ring. We were already the
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01:52:10.720 --> 01:52:14.319
tag chance. If we were in cahoots, wouldn't you think
2066
01:52:14.359 --> 01:52:17.439
we'd rather go over with our finish the high low,
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01:52:17.640 --> 01:52:19.880
like we had already had planned in the back and
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01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:21.239
make ourselves look strong.
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01:52:23.199 --> 01:52:26.000
Well, unless you wanted to extend your FIOD with crime time, yeah,
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01:52:26.359 --> 01:52:27.039
that would make sense.
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01:52:28.039 --> 01:52:32.720
Not at a house show. Okay, it doesn't matter at
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01:52:32.760 --> 01:52:35.920
a house show. But see he's telling people that, and
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01:52:36.119 --> 01:52:39.159
Lance isn't here to defend himself. And I just think
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01:52:39.199 --> 01:52:42.520
it's funny that that's how. And they're the ones that
2075
01:52:42.640 --> 01:52:45.800
bumped the referee. They didn't have to pick up the referee.
2076
01:52:45.800 --> 01:52:48.279
If they would have never bumped the referee, they would
2077
01:52:48.279 --> 01:52:51.399
have never gotten fired. That's what the heat was. They
2078
01:52:51.479 --> 01:52:55.479
picked up an untrained individual and hit their finish, almost
2079
01:52:55.560 --> 01:52:58.159
broke his arm, and then when they got in the
2080
01:52:58.199 --> 01:53:01.279
back they had an attitude about it with John Cena.
2081
01:53:03.079 --> 01:53:04.359
That's not that's not smart.
2082
01:53:05.640 --> 01:53:08.520
No, you don't smart off and tell John Cena the
2083
01:53:08.720 --> 01:53:11.319
f all I don't care who they are, not that
2084
01:53:11.359 --> 01:53:13.960
he's gonna kick your head in. He's gonna laugh at
2085
01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:17.079
you and go, Okay, who do you think he's talking
2086
01:53:17.119 --> 01:53:22.880
to the next day? Right and lo and behold who
2087
01:53:22.960 --> 01:53:27.600
got fired the next day? That's all on them. They
2088
01:53:27.680 --> 01:53:31.439
did that to themselves. That whole thing within the match
2089
01:53:31.720 --> 01:53:34.800
they could have got out of that was probably, you know,
2090
01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:40.000
a butting and some embarrassment. But it was their reactions
2091
01:53:40.039 --> 01:53:42.560
and their behavior after the match, and who they talked
2092
01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:44.439
to and how they treat people and how they behaved
2093
01:53:44.479 --> 01:53:47.960
and how they gave towards the situation they got them fired.
2094
01:53:49.279 --> 01:53:52.520
Okay, Well, the stuff that JTD wrote about Chad being
2095
01:53:52.560 --> 01:53:54.720
a big goof, are you willing to agree with him
2096
01:53:54.760 --> 01:53:54.880
on that?
2097
01:53:57.680 --> 01:54:02.800
I mean, I got along with Shad personally in the ring.
2098
01:54:03.159 --> 01:54:08.079
He never took anything. It never took a series, So yeah,
2099
01:54:08.159 --> 01:54:10.079
I mean, to a certain extent, Yeah, he's a big goose.
2100
01:54:10.880 --> 01:54:14.720
All right, all right, we're coming up on the end
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01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:17.800
of the program, by the way, immediately coming up at
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01:54:17.840 --> 01:54:20.279
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coastcast dot com and check that out. Uh you know,
2106
01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:33.079
we we we got our our guys ran an interview
2107
01:54:33.159 --> 01:54:35.800
on the website and Kurt Angle wrote in his blog
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01:54:36.640 --> 01:54:39.560
he apparently, you know, had his retirement matches over that
2109
01:54:39.760 --> 01:54:44.359
last week in UH in Great Britain. You know, talk
2110
01:54:44.399 --> 01:54:48.279
about talk about the Kurt Angle that I don't Actually
2111
01:54:48.279 --> 01:54:50.720
I'm trying to remember how much he overlapped with your
2112
01:54:50.720 --> 01:54:51.279
guys is run.
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01:54:52.680 --> 01:54:57.800
He was there for about six months before when I
2114
01:54:57.920 --> 01:54:59.880
came in, and then he was gone, and then I
2115
01:55:00.119 --> 01:55:02.079
worked with him in T and A as well too.
2116
01:55:03.439 --> 01:55:08.760
You talk about a very intense individual and a guy
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01:55:08.840 --> 01:55:11.800
that wants perfection. And when I say he wants perfection,
2118
01:55:12.439 --> 01:55:15.079
I mean he gets angry with himself when he forgets
2119
01:55:15.159 --> 01:55:19.079
something that he's been working on. And when you got
2120
01:55:19.159 --> 01:55:21.720
in the back he was He's completely open to you
2121
01:55:21.880 --> 01:55:24.119
to go up and ask questions and to give you
2122
01:55:24.199 --> 01:55:28.520
an opinion, and it gives you your time. The wrestling
2123
01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:31.079
world is definitely going to be missing out of some
2124
01:55:31.199 --> 01:55:36.199
great matches with him not wrestling. He brings a sense
2125
01:55:36.279 --> 01:55:39.239
of realism to the ring that most guys can't even
2126
01:55:39.399 --> 01:55:42.880
capture in their whole career. When you walk out there,
2127
01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:45.119
you know that you know he's going to throw somebody
2128
01:55:45.159 --> 01:55:49.039
around them and be intense. He's got that ben Wah
2129
01:55:49.159 --> 01:55:54.359
intensity and I say that extremely positively, and that's something
2130
01:55:54.399 --> 01:56:00.319
that's missing from this business, that toughness, that intensity, that
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01:56:00.520 --> 01:56:03.439
man's man when he steps in the ring, you know
2132
01:56:03.439 --> 01:56:03.840
what I mean.
2133
01:56:04.960 --> 01:56:07.840
Yeah, I mean I've had the pleasure of watching him
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01:56:08.159 --> 01:56:11.399
wrestle in person, and uh yeah, he's uh you know
2135
01:56:11.680 --> 01:56:13.119
when he is at when he was at the top
2136
01:56:13.159 --> 01:56:17.199
of his game, there was nobody better. All right, Uh,
2137
01:56:17.600 --> 01:56:20.520
We're okay, We're at the end of our program. I
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01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:22.279
want to thank Trevor Murdoch for being on the show
2139
01:56:22.680 --> 01:56:26.960
Kansas City Pro Wrestling. The uh the uh in Lenxa
2140
01:56:27.039 --> 01:56:31.239
can in Lenexa, Kansas, Uh fans can fans can be
2141
01:56:31.319 --> 01:56:33.359
a part of it? Do you if you want to
2142
01:56:33.399 --> 01:56:36.960
train there? You email Casey Pro Wrestling Training at yahoo
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01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:40.319
dot com or call nine one three six four five
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eight eight two six. Is there anything else I should
2145
01:56:42.319 --> 01:56:42.680
mention here?
2146
01:56:42.720 --> 01:56:46.520
Trevor if you guys can just hop on Facebook and
2147
01:56:46.640 --> 01:56:50.840
give Casey Pro Wrestling UH a like and make sure
2148
01:56:50.840 --> 01:56:54.760
you go to Trevor Murdock dot com and uh give
2149
01:56:54.840 --> 01:56:56.960
that a checkout on the website as well too, and
2150
01:56:57.039 --> 01:56:59.159
I'm also on Facebook under Trevor Murdoch.
2151
01:57:00.479 --> 01:57:02.880
All right, Trevi, we really appreciate you being here, Thanks
2152
01:57:02.920 --> 01:57:04.880
for being on the program, and as always, thanks to
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01:57:04.960 --> 01:57:07.279
all of you the listeners. We love having you here.
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01:57:07.720 --> 01:57:10.560
Tune in tomorrow. Wade Keller will be doing his Thursday interview,
2155
01:57:11.039 --> 01:57:14.079
and then we have Bruce and Travis on Friday, Jim
2156
01:57:14.159 --> 01:57:17.079
Valley doing the Saturday Morning Wrestling Show, and you can
2157
01:57:17.119 --> 01:57:19.600
go vip by hitting us up at PW Torch dot
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01:57:19.680 --> 01:57:23.640
com slash go vip until next week. Everybody, keep your
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01:57:23.640 --> 01:57:25.479
feet on the ground and keep shooting for the stars.
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01:57:25.560 --> 01:57:26.000
Good night.
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Longing for some nostalgia or maybe you want to learn
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Every Back inside Studio b here on a Wednesday evening.
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Torch Commas Pat McNeil join us always on Wednesday. By
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01:58:24.119 --> 01:58:27.560
Torch Assistant editor James Caldwell. This is the VIP after
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show for February third. James, how the heck are you hey?
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I'm doing okay, Pat?
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01:58:43.560 --> 01:58:45.920
All right, let's check out our early results in the
2180
01:58:45.960 --> 01:58:49.000
big poll of the seventy five fifth episode of Wayback Playback.
2181
01:58:49.880 --> 01:58:52.199
Episode seventy four will be posted on Sunday, just in
2182
01:58:52.279 --> 01:58:55.079
time for the Super Bowl. Right now, let's see how
2183
01:58:55.119 --> 01:58:58.840
we are doing. We get you'll hear how we came
2184
01:58:58.880 --> 01:59:01.560
to that list right now? It's a tie. Uh. Some
2185
01:59:01.680 --> 01:59:05.000
people want WrestleMania for some people want the Shytown Rumble
2186
01:59:05.079 --> 01:59:08.239
eighty nine. Uh. By the way, are prepared to go
2187
01:59:08.319 --> 01:59:11.359
across the country and smack anybody who votes for WrestleMania
2188
01:59:11.439 --> 01:59:14.039
for so just keep that in mind when you when
2189
01:59:14.079 --> 01:59:14.800
you task a vote.
2190
01:59:15.359 --> 01:59:17.640
Yeah, I might need to tip the poll here and
2191
01:59:17.760 --> 01:59:19.760
put Shytown Rumble vote in, uh.
2192
01:59:19.800 --> 01:59:24.399
Yeah, or a vote for any of the other options
2193
01:59:24.439 --> 01:59:25.159
would be fine too.
2194
01:59:25.600 --> 01:59:30.520
But you know, yeah, WrestleMania for not exactly a band
2195
01:59:30.560 --> 01:59:30.920
or night.
2196
01:59:31.600 --> 01:59:34.239
Well more to the point that we did around table.
2197
01:59:34.279 --> 01:59:35.760
We have Bruce and Wade and I did a round
2198
01:59:35.800 --> 01:59:37.119
table on that one years ago.
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01:59:37.520 --> 01:59:40.159
I have submitted my vote for for Shytown Rumble, So.
2200
01:59:41.000 --> 01:59:43.399
No pressure, but yeah, yeah, you got everybody's got the
2201
01:59:43.439 --> 01:59:46.000
little world to vote, So yeah, you know it's on.
2202
01:59:46.239 --> 01:59:48.199
It's I mean, we only do one show a week.
2203
01:59:48.199 --> 01:59:49.680
It's one of those Oh yeah, I can't believe, you know,
2204
01:59:50.239 --> 01:59:51.880
Chaitown Rumbles one of those ones. I can't believe we
2205
01:59:52.000 --> 01:59:53.920
haven't done that. And it's going to be you know.
2206
01:59:54.079 --> 01:59:56.680
And I'm not saying the show didn't have its bad moments,
2207
01:59:56.760 --> 01:59:58.960
but we'll we'll talk about that. And given the opportunity.
2208
01:59:59.279 --> 02:00:01.800
It's not very Foundvalentine's Day. It's not a Valentine's Day
2209
02:00:01.880 --> 02:00:05.520
show though. Really all right, let's go ahead, James. What
2210
02:00:05.640 --> 02:00:07.840
stories are we following right now other than this one
2211
02:00:08.000 --> 02:00:09.319
on pw twrch dot com.
2212
02:00:11.239 --> 02:00:14.560
We've got impact viewership. I did a couple of updates
2213
02:00:14.600 --> 02:00:17.800
this afternoon. Kurt Angle is trying to figure out what
2214
02:00:17.840 --> 02:00:22.239
he's gonna do next with life. That's always interesting. And
2215
02:00:22.520 --> 02:00:25.039
Brett Hart had a big interview and talking a lot
2216
02:00:25.079 --> 02:00:28.479
about Owen art not in the Hall of Same and
2217
02:00:28.600 --> 02:00:33.319
some other topics, plus Michael Cole in the Weekly Interview
2218
02:00:33.399 --> 02:00:33.880
Pat and.
2219
02:00:35.800 --> 02:00:36.159
New Day.
2220
02:00:36.600 --> 02:00:38.439
Well, I think it's just to say a New Day
2221
02:00:38.479 --> 02:00:40.880
in the weekly Interview with Michael Cole and New Day
2222
02:00:40.920 --> 02:00:43.359
makes fun of Michael Cole for six minutes, so it
2223
02:00:43.479 --> 02:00:44.600
wasn't really much of an interview.
2224
02:00:46.319 --> 02:00:49.079
Okay, Well, let's see Brett talking about how we liked
2225
02:00:49.199 --> 02:00:52.720
dang Ol Brian and see him punk and yeah, that's
2226
02:00:52.760 --> 02:00:54.239
not where we're going. And he's a big fan of
2227
02:00:54.279 --> 02:00:55.520
Kevin Allen Smith. There you go.
2228
02:00:56.960 --> 02:01:00.640
Yeah, so those guys aren't getting in well Brian, Brian
2229
02:01:00.680 --> 02:01:06.840
and Pane never rushed for me again, but Punk's yeah,
2230
02:01:07.159 --> 02:01:10.199
yeah it Sally does. And then and then Owens is
2231
02:01:10.279 --> 02:01:12.159
you know, he's kind of slotted where he's slaughtering so.
2232
02:01:13.279 --> 02:01:16.840
Well that is unfortunate, but you know, I understand it though.
2233
02:01:17.680 --> 02:01:20.359
All right, let's see what other what other news were
2234
02:01:20.399 --> 02:01:23.319
the articles we have here? Yeah, raw writings down and
2235
02:01:23.520 --> 02:01:27.920
down pretty him pretty heavily. You know, having having the
2236
02:01:28.039 --> 02:01:29.960
Rock on the show kind of helps, doesn't it.
2237
02:01:30.680 --> 02:01:34.760
Yeah, this help the week after, that's for sure. Especially
2238
02:01:34.800 --> 02:01:38.079
the product is really as United scot on Monday. Patty
2239
02:01:38.840 --> 02:01:41.560
kind of soft right now, So that's nice of that.
2240
02:01:42.600 --> 02:01:42.800
Yeah.
2241
02:01:43.199 --> 02:01:46.760
Uh, they pretty much lost all of the game from
2242
02:01:46.880 --> 02:01:49.520
from last week, so, I mean, like it was, it
2243
02:01:49.680 --> 02:01:51.680
was like the rumble didn't happen. They just were right
2244
02:01:51.720 --> 02:01:54.079
back to where they were before the rumble. H.
2245
02:01:54.600 --> 02:01:56.920
Well, well, here's something that I actually talked about briefly
2246
02:01:57.199 --> 02:02:00.920
with Trevor Murdoch Crime Times on TMS tmzs thing they're
2247
02:02:00.960 --> 02:02:03.279
ready to come back, and I I don't think, you know,
2248
02:02:03.520 --> 02:02:06.000
I don't think that gets put up. The TMZ obviously
2249
02:02:06.039 --> 02:02:08.119
has some sort of deal with WWE. I don't think
2250
02:02:08.159 --> 02:02:09.760
that gets put up unless there's something.
2251
02:02:09.600 --> 02:02:13.960
To it and the Tag Division needs some help, you know,
2252
02:02:14.199 --> 02:02:18.319
w kind of waste of the Dudley's and New Day
2253
02:02:18.399 --> 02:02:20.000
has no one to work with because it was so
2254
02:02:20.239 --> 02:02:22.920
so Yeah, yeah, I think that. You know, it's if
2255
02:02:22.960 --> 02:02:24.399
there's ever a good time to come back to the
2256
02:02:24.479 --> 02:02:25.760
Tag Team, right now is the time.
2257
02:02:26.800 --> 02:02:32.399
Okay, that's yeah, that's big blah blah blah Comcast earnings. Yeah,
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02:02:32.479 --> 02:02:33.439
Brett Hartz.
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Don't.
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02:02:37.319 --> 02:02:38.039
Yeah, I'm sorry.
2261
02:02:38.119 --> 02:02:38.279
Go on.
2262
02:02:38.680 --> 02:02:40.159
Well, I was gonna say, Pat, you've got to make
2263
02:02:40.199 --> 02:02:43.039
man's of Donald Trump. And that's a story in the
2264
02:02:43.560 --> 02:02:45.600
East Coast newspapers today.
2265
02:02:45.760 --> 02:02:49.880
So uh they, I mean, Vincent donald Trump have been
2266
02:02:49.880 --> 02:02:50.520
friends for a while.
2267
02:02:51.319 --> 02:02:56.159
Yeah, and uh yeah, I mean if they want a
2268
02:02:56.439 --> 02:03:00.479
cost efficient way to get involved politically, I not not
2269
02:03:00.680 --> 02:03:03.039
paying or spending millions of dollars for Linda to run
2270
02:03:03.119 --> 02:03:05.880
for Senate. They can always help out Donald Trump, as
2271
02:03:06.920 --> 02:03:09.960
Linda has already donated two hundred thousand dollars to a
2272
02:03:10.079 --> 02:03:10.640
super pack.
2273
02:03:11.039 --> 02:03:12.880
I'm still waiting what here, what Trump's gonna be doing
2274
02:03:12.880 --> 02:03:17.079
at WrestleMania this year, And I'm not, well, I'm kind
2275
02:03:17.119 --> 02:03:18.760
of serious about that. I think, you know, I think
2276
02:03:18.840 --> 02:03:20.800
that's a I think that's a possibility.
2277
02:03:21.399 --> 02:03:25.119
Yeah, and he'll need uh you know, he'll need a platform,
2278
02:03:25.239 --> 02:03:26.800
and resume is a pretty big platform.
2279
02:03:27.000 --> 02:03:30.119
So let's see what other big news we have today.
2280
02:03:30.479 --> 02:03:32.399
I think I think those are the I think those
2281
02:03:32.439 --> 02:03:35.199
are the main stories. Impact slightly down and they and
2282
02:03:35.319 --> 02:03:37.720
they were, you know, they were climbing over the past
2283
02:03:37.760 --> 02:03:40.279
couple of weeks. So yeah, I mean I think maybe
2284
02:03:40.319 --> 02:03:42.560
if they had uh yeah, that's part of the problem
2285
02:03:42.600 --> 02:03:45.520
with impact. I think maybe if they if they advertise, Hey,
2286
02:03:45.880 --> 02:03:49.079
Matt Hardy defending title against Kurt Angle tonight. Hello, you
2287
02:03:49.159 --> 02:03:52.760
know hello, they just.
2288
02:03:52.760 --> 02:03:55.840
They just hotshot stuff, you know, They just they don't
2289
02:03:55.840 --> 02:03:58.000
advertise things in advance. They're just from one show to
2290
02:03:58.039 --> 02:03:59.560
the next. You don't know what they're actually gonna do,
2291
02:03:59.680 --> 02:04:02.880
and not in a good way. They you know, you're
2292
02:04:02.920 --> 02:04:05.199
your waist in a big match by not advertising it.
2293
02:04:05.880 --> 02:04:09.000
I would, unfortunately, I would agree with that. Yes, all right,
2294
02:04:09.279 --> 02:04:11.960
let's go ahead and hit the five things that James
2295
02:04:12.079 --> 02:04:16.079
might not know just for the heck of it. Okay, well,
2296
02:04:16.359 --> 02:04:18.800
let's let's go ahead and do a story number five.
2297
02:04:18.880 --> 02:04:20.680
I'm gonna skip the one that we work, but I
2298
02:04:20.800 --> 02:04:22.119
was putting up there, and do one that we were
2299
02:04:22.199 --> 02:04:23.920
talking about right before we get went on the air.
2300
02:04:24.960 --> 02:04:28.319
Something that we speculated about the Monday Live cast. AJ
2301
02:04:28.479 --> 02:04:33.039
Styles is doing house shows. Kids. They are not. They're not. Yeah,
2302
02:04:33.239 --> 02:04:36.479
anybody who's pretty much anybody a warm any warm body
2303
02:04:36.520 --> 02:04:38.279
that's been medically cleared, is going to get a chance
2304
02:04:38.319 --> 02:04:39.640
to work house shows in there. As I can tell.
2305
02:04:39.680 --> 02:04:42.880
It starts this Saturday, in San Jose. I believe with
2306
02:04:43.479 --> 02:04:46.359
AJ on the same show as mister brock Lesner, although
2307
02:04:46.680 --> 02:04:47.960
I don't think they're facing each other.
2308
02:04:48.800 --> 02:04:51.720
Well, no, that would sell tickets, but they have to
2309
02:04:51.720 --> 02:04:53.600
advertise that advance and then the.
2310
02:04:53.960 --> 02:04:56.520
Yeah, if they don't advertise that in advance, then your TNA.
2311
02:04:56.760 --> 02:05:01.760
So yeah, So AJ will be finishing dependents in Georgia
2312
02:05:01.880 --> 02:05:04.319
on Friday, and then I guess you're gonna fly. We'll
2313
02:05:04.359 --> 02:05:07.760
fly him out to San Jose on Saturdays. So he
2314
02:05:07.920 --> 02:05:10.439
begins the officially begins the new part of his career
2315
02:05:10.840 --> 02:05:15.800
on on Saturdays. So I'm curious who is in a
2316
02:05:15.880 --> 02:05:18.239
rest suit on Saturday that that should be fascinating. He's
2317
02:05:18.279 --> 02:05:23.600
wrestled with Jericho and Wrussell is on uh Tomorrow's backdown, So.
2318
02:05:23.720 --> 02:05:27.479
There's definitely no I see no, I see no problem
2319
02:05:27.520 --> 02:05:30.000
with him wrestling Jericho on the house shows. That's gonna
2320
02:05:30.119 --> 02:05:32.680
probably get some people in there who might ordinarily not
2321
02:05:32.800 --> 02:05:33.399
be in there, you know.
2322
02:05:34.399 --> 02:05:37.199
Yeah, And and that's acular match up to take her
2323
02:05:37.239 --> 02:05:38.920
to take around all these all these venues.
2324
02:05:39.000 --> 02:05:41.439
You know, it's the if they if they advertise.
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02:05:41.199 --> 02:05:44.439
Match, if they advertises exactly what, they.
2326
02:05:44.399 --> 02:05:46.680
Might not be Okay. So so's in San Jose. Let
2327
02:05:46.720 --> 02:05:48.760
me just yeah because I checked it. But he's on
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02:05:48.840 --> 02:05:50.520
a bunch of them. He's also on the March for
2329
02:05:50.520 --> 02:05:52.920
WrestleMania Special. I know that's the Shaker. I'm not coming
2330
02:05:53.000 --> 02:05:56.039
up in March, but yeah, a lot of a lot
2331
02:05:56.119 --> 02:05:59.439
of shows and you're gonna see Yeah, ajs Aj is
2332
02:05:59.520 --> 02:06:01.840
n now these He's not going to be held back
2333
02:06:01.960 --> 02:06:04.880
and they you know, they seem to be making room
2334
02:06:04.920 --> 02:06:07.600
for him on WW television. So we got that going
2335
02:06:07.640 --> 02:06:11.960
for us, which is nice. Yes. Story number four, James,
2336
02:06:12.039 --> 02:06:14.760
did you know that WW is bringing Rob back to
2337
02:06:14.920 --> 02:06:19.199
Philadelphia on Monday? I want to say Monday, March twenty. First,
2338
02:06:19.319 --> 02:06:22.000
that's Center Think us go on sale this Saturday. Triple H,
2339
02:06:22.119 --> 02:06:25.159
Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, and Seamous are advertised for this event.
2340
02:06:25.840 --> 02:06:28.560
I will point out that Rock, Lesnar and Undertaker are
2341
02:06:28.680 --> 02:06:33.359
not advertised for the show. M Yeah, not yet. I
2342
02:06:33.399 --> 02:06:38.880
would say, yeah, I imagine that's I imagine there's something
2343
02:06:38.920 --> 02:06:41.359
to do that to do with that. Yeah, should to
2344
02:06:41.439 --> 02:06:45.199
check that out. Okay. Story number three, James, I know
2345
02:06:45.359 --> 02:06:47.760
something that you've been looking forward to. They a turn
2346
02:06:47.840 --> 02:06:51.039
of heroes and legends and Indiana heroes and Legends six
2347
02:06:51.560 --> 02:06:53.720
is going to be taking place on and that will
2348
02:06:53.760 --> 02:06:57.760
be taking place Saturday, March the twenty sixth and Fort Wayne, Indiana. Yes,
2349
02:06:57.880 --> 02:07:01.479
on the same night you get to watch uh mister Anderson,
2350
02:07:02.199 --> 02:07:06.279
Billy Gunn, Saboo, Abyss, the rock and Roll Express all
2351
02:07:06.399 --> 02:07:09.560
taking out a bunch of Midwest nobody's in series of matches.
2352
02:07:10.239 --> 02:07:10.319
Uh.
2353
02:07:10.439 --> 02:07:12.600
The probably the big feature feature match on the show,
2354
02:07:12.600 --> 02:07:15.199
I would say, is Tatanka versus Congo Kong, which is
2355
02:07:15.239 --> 02:07:17.439
one of those one of those dream matches we often
2356
02:07:17.479 --> 02:07:21.560
talk about it. Yeah, be sure to set that out
2357
02:07:21.600 --> 02:07:22.840
if you're in the Fort Wayne area.
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02:07:24.399 --> 02:07:27.239
Uh, that's that's always one of those fastinate ones that
2359
02:07:27.399 --> 02:07:31.520
mix the legends of the nobodies and yeah, it's part
2360
02:07:31.560 --> 02:07:33.880
of the formula on the independence right.
2361
02:07:33.960 --> 02:07:36.199
But yeah, but usually, you know, usually try to have
2362
02:07:36.279 --> 02:07:38.159
something where you have a couple of names going against
2363
02:07:38.199 --> 02:07:40.319
each other. If you're bringing in all these guys, not
2364
02:07:40.600 --> 02:07:43.840
just you know, no, well, never mind, you know what
2365
02:07:43.880 --> 02:07:44.279
I'm saying.
2366
02:07:44.840 --> 02:07:48.479
Sure, sure at least one feature spectacular match.
2367
02:07:48.560 --> 02:07:48.760
Yeah.
2368
02:07:48.800 --> 02:07:50.800
Well, the whatever whoever there champ is is going to
2369
02:07:50.840 --> 02:07:53.399
be I'm guessing losing by this qualification to Abyss or
2370
02:07:53.439 --> 02:07:55.840
something like that, because that's the that's the other main event.
2371
02:07:55.920 --> 02:07:56.960
Abys goes to the title.
2372
02:07:57.680 --> 02:08:00.760
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02:08:00.800 --> 02:08:02.000
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Okay, so we're down to short number two. What's going
2385
02:08:35.439 --> 02:08:37.279
on with the Russell Con. As you know, we talked
2386
02:08:37.279 --> 02:08:41.119
about it last week. Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, Katrina Fromlucha Underground,
2387
02:08:41.119 --> 02:08:43.039
Great Mood is going to be there. I want to
2388
02:08:43.039 --> 02:08:45.479
add a few more names to it. Why not? The
2389
02:08:45.680 --> 02:08:49.640
Jarretts Jeff and Karen Jarrett will be there, Ricky Morton,
2390
02:08:49.680 --> 02:08:51.760
Robert Gibbson, The Rock and Roll Express will also be
2391
02:08:51.880 --> 02:08:54.680
at Russell Con. They've got a busy Uh, they've got
2392
02:08:54.720 --> 02:08:56.880
a busy spring ahead of them. Eve Torres, I know
2393
02:08:57.079 --> 02:09:01.479
you remember her from WWE will be there. Van dam Uh,
2394
02:09:02.399 --> 02:09:05.359
the Outsiders Scott Hall and Kevin Nash of course, and
2395
02:09:05.560 --> 02:09:08.079
the Dallas Check Cowboy cheerleaders will be at Russell KHN.
2396
02:09:08.479 --> 02:09:13.079
So that's it's getting it's getting stacked up and we'll
2397
02:09:13.119 --> 02:09:15.279
have obviously more will be there in the weeks to come.
2398
02:09:15.319 --> 02:09:17.560
But that's uh, that's one that Wade Wade can go
2399
02:09:17.600 --> 02:09:19.119
ahead and send the plane tickets for that. I'll be
2400
02:09:19.359 --> 02:09:21.479
happy to I'll be happy to jump down there and
2401
02:09:21.800 --> 02:09:23.720
hang out with you in Texas well.
2402
02:09:24.000 --> 02:09:26.239
I'm surprised that they would have made a w B
2403
02:09:26.439 --> 02:09:30.439
function unless they're doing w B and non w W
2404
02:09:30.600 --> 02:09:35.319
functions that weekend. That's yeah, just because of the AT
2405
02:09:35.439 --> 02:09:37.279
and T Stadium connection with.
2406
02:09:38.119 --> 02:09:40.960
I don't know, I think they're allowed to take uh
2407
02:09:41.079 --> 02:09:43.560
you know it's not football allow Yeah, I think they're
2408
02:09:43.560 --> 02:09:47.720
allowed to take any bookings all right. And story number one, Yes,
2409
02:09:47.800 --> 02:09:50.520
we have more information about this year's Wreussell Con Super Show.
2410
02:09:50.680 --> 02:09:50.800
Uh.
2411
02:09:51.279 --> 02:09:53.399
The two big British stars that everybody's been talking about
2412
02:09:53.399 --> 02:09:56.159
will Osbrey and Marty Scull. They'll be facing off against
2413
02:09:56.199 --> 02:09:59.119
each other. I'll need wrestle con Super Show also just
2414
02:09:59.199 --> 02:10:02.720
announced a big like last year, a big ten man tag.
2415
02:10:03.760 --> 02:10:05.920
The captains will pick teams, and the team captains this
2416
02:10:06.079 --> 02:10:08.399
year are Jeff Jarrett and Joey Ryan.
2417
02:10:09.000 --> 02:10:13.359
So those are interesting captains.
2418
02:10:13.399 --> 02:10:17.399
But yes, I I'm not even gonna speculate as to
2419
02:10:17.439 --> 02:10:19.279
what the numbers of Joey Ryan's team will have in common.
2420
02:10:19.840 --> 02:10:25.319
Oh gosh, yeah, okay, And speaking.
2421
02:10:25.000 --> 02:10:27.279
Of the big names, next Wednesday in the program, if
2422
02:10:27.319 --> 02:10:30.960
you watched Impact, you saw him. He's back, He's ten,
2423
02:10:31.079 --> 02:10:34.760
restled and ready. Hurricane Helms returns to the program on Wednesday,
2424
02:10:34.760 --> 02:10:36.840
and I'm sure we'll be talking about next week's big
2425
02:10:36.920 --> 02:10:38.800
episode of Impact. So we got that going for us
2426
02:10:38.800 --> 02:10:41.520
here on PW twitch dot com because.
2427
02:10:41.319 --> 02:10:45.319
Next week kicks off the UK episodes, right, Yes.
2428
02:10:45.239 --> 02:10:47.600
Actually, yes, we will talk about that. But yeah, I
2429
02:10:47.680 --> 02:10:51.319
believe the first of the UK episodes next week, I
2430
02:10:51.840 --> 02:10:55.000
still can't believe. While I shouldn't be too surprised, I
2431
02:10:55.079 --> 02:10:57.680
can't believe they went over there and they take three
2432
02:10:57.800 --> 02:10:59.840
one night only is and I guess three up the
2433
02:11:00.079 --> 02:11:01.119
three episodes of Impact.
2434
02:11:02.800 --> 02:11:03.560
Well it's DNA.
2435
02:11:03.920 --> 02:11:06.520
That's okay.
2436
02:11:06.640 --> 02:11:08.880
Well, well, I guess they got there. I guess I
2437
02:11:08.920 --> 02:11:10.520
guess they did get there one night, onis out of.
2438
02:11:10.520 --> 02:11:13.399
The way, you know, for the entire year. They done
2439
02:11:13.439 --> 02:11:13.960
for the whole year.
2440
02:11:14.079 --> 02:11:16.319
No, I think they're No, I think they only got
2441
02:11:16.560 --> 02:11:18.800
I don't know. I'm gonna have to go back and
2442
02:11:18.840 --> 02:11:22.039
pull this up. I know they got March done, and
2443
02:11:22.199 --> 02:11:23.920
I don't know when they're doing pay per views anyway.
2444
02:11:24.199 --> 02:11:25.960
I think I think they're onto something with this whole
2445
02:11:26.239 --> 02:11:30.479
cheaper Friday night pay per view type show deal. Yeah,
2446
02:11:30.760 --> 02:11:32.600
how many people I don't know how many people ordered
2447
02:11:32.680 --> 02:11:35.279
last month, but I'm guessing they lost less money than
2448
02:11:35.319 --> 02:11:36.640
they have on previous DNA.
2449
02:11:36.479 --> 02:11:38.840
Pay per views, so that that's a boutus.
2450
02:11:39.039 --> 02:11:41.560
Yeah, so they got that going for them, which is nice.
2451
02:11:43.680 --> 02:11:43.800
Now.
2452
02:11:43.920 --> 02:11:46.920
Thing to move some of that merchandise in the chopna.
2453
02:11:47.760 --> 02:11:50.039
Well, they're doing their best to the move. But everything
2454
02:11:50.159 --> 02:11:56.399
must go right, Okay. Anyway, how are mister and missus
2455
02:11:56.439 --> 02:11:57.760
vesting and all the ships to see? This is your
2456
02:11:57.760 --> 02:12:01.800
Paptwich Live event center for Wednesday third? All right? Where
2457
02:12:01.840 --> 02:12:06.319
to begin? James Tonight on the WWE Network, It is
2458
02:12:06.399 --> 02:12:08.640
going to be, uh, gonna be a big episode of
2459
02:12:08.840 --> 02:12:11.800
n x T. Let's see big matches on that show.
2460
02:12:11.920 --> 02:12:15.560
Carmelo will be taking on Emma in a ladies battle,
2461
02:12:16.079 --> 02:12:19.520
and your main event, non title big rematch Finn balor
2462
02:12:19.600 --> 02:12:20.399
Apollo Cruise.
2463
02:12:21.479 --> 02:12:24.439
That's a good I'm looking forward to that. So I
2464
02:12:24.600 --> 02:12:27.399
assume that Baron Corbyn would not be interfering this time around.
2465
02:12:27.680 --> 02:12:30.800
But well I'm not assuming that, but I'm trying not to.
2466
02:12:31.720 --> 02:12:34.479
I'm trying not to look, you know, I'm trying to
2467
02:12:34.720 --> 02:12:37.319
look too many spoilers. Let's just go with that.
2468
02:12:38.079 --> 02:12:39.600
Let's have a good, clean match, guys.
2469
02:12:40.279 --> 02:12:44.640
Yeah, that would be. That would be something. Let's see. Also, Okay,
2470
02:12:44.720 --> 02:12:47.640
also tonight, I believe Rockstar Pro is hitting is hitting
2471
02:12:47.640 --> 02:12:51.600
a beautiful dayton Ohio. Yes, they are tonight coming up
2472
02:12:51.640 --> 02:12:54.680
in oh I don't know an hour from now, So
2473
02:12:55.560 --> 02:12:58.039
go check that out. Your main event Sammy Callahan versus
2474
02:12:58.119 --> 02:13:03.359
Alex Cologne from from Combat Zone Fame. So yeah, that's great.
2475
02:13:03.800 --> 02:13:06.079
Also on the show, James, I think you'll appreciate this
2476
02:13:06.239 --> 02:13:08.680
Popino Joe. Apparently he's a wrestler.
2477
02:13:10.159 --> 02:13:12.399
Popa Joe. That sounds like a restaurant.
2478
02:13:13.279 --> 02:13:16.600
Yeah, yeah, sounds like it sounds like a crab house.
2479
02:13:16.600 --> 02:13:18.199
You know, you get you get your seafood, and then
2480
02:13:18.199 --> 02:13:21.199
you go to Pomp's. I'm thinking of Joe.
2481
02:13:21.680 --> 02:13:22.760
You can think we're both hungry.
2482
02:13:23.600 --> 02:13:26.159
I think that's probably right. Also, Combat Zone does their
2483
02:13:26.159 --> 02:13:29.279
student show tonight. Blah blah blah. Okay, moving on Looke
2484
02:13:29.359 --> 02:13:33.159
j Underground on the old Ay Yay Kill Shot'll be
2485
02:13:33.239 --> 02:13:35.720
taking on Johnny Mundo and in the main event it's
2486
02:13:35.800 --> 02:13:39.359
Pentagon and Puma in a handicapped match against the Disciples
2487
02:13:39.399 --> 02:13:44.000
of Death. That sounds dangerous, yes.
2488
02:13:43.920 --> 02:13:44.720
Slightly dangerous.
2489
02:13:45.039 --> 02:13:48.399
Week two, let's see what they've got a new season.
2490
02:13:49.119 --> 02:13:56.279
Yeah, I think that'll be fun. Maybe. Okay, what else
2491
02:13:56.359 --> 02:14:00.119
we have here? Of course? Tonight Ring about it on
2492
02:14:00.239 --> 02:14:03.760
Fast Acting Comments, Roderick Strong defending the TV title against
2493
02:14:03.760 --> 02:14:06.640
the Masada and the Big J Lethal and Adam Cole
2494
02:14:06.640 --> 02:14:08.279
against Red Dragon tag team match.
2495
02:14:10.479 --> 02:14:11.880
Yeah you got a that's the.
2496
02:14:11.920 --> 02:14:15.199
R Ring and Winter title. Uh situation with Lethal and
2497
02:14:15.920 --> 02:14:21.479
and Cole and O'Reilly. So yeah, I'm sure there'll be
2498
02:14:21.560 --> 02:14:23.199
no shortage of drama in that tag match.
2499
02:14:23.880 --> 02:14:28.439
Absolutely not. Okay, there we go. Let's see what else
2500
02:14:28.479 --> 02:14:31.279
we have here? Oh yeah, w W SmackDown tomorrow on
2501
02:14:31.399 --> 02:14:34.960
the USA Network from Memphis, Tennessee. Aj Styles versus The
2502
02:14:35.039 --> 02:14:39.000
Mis Roman Reigns versus Russeth. No spoilers from me. These
2503
02:14:39.039 --> 02:14:40.920
are the same matches you knew about. They didn't change
2504
02:14:40.920 --> 02:14:42.560
any of the matches that they announced them wrong.
2505
02:14:43.199 --> 02:14:47.239
Yeah, they have it consistent, maybe put a little bit
2506
02:14:47.239 --> 02:14:49.840
more thought in the SmackDown, and now it's on USA Networks.
2507
02:14:49.880 --> 02:14:53.479
That's good. We're not just changing the match, you know,
2508
02:14:53.600 --> 02:14:57.159
left and right from Monday to Tuesday's taping. That's that's
2509
02:14:57.239 --> 02:14:59.439
kind of nice to see what the advertising Monday is
2510
02:14:59.479 --> 02:15:00.720
actually gonna have on Thursday.
2511
02:15:01.600 --> 02:15:02.600
Yeah, I like it.
2512
02:15:03.199 --> 02:15:03.319
Oh.
2513
02:15:03.439 --> 02:15:07.239
This Friday, Rockstar Pro and Dayton has their fourth anniversary spectacular.
2514
02:15:08.239 --> 02:15:13.079
The Armageddon Games Champion Ron Mathis leads his team against
2515
02:15:13.119 --> 02:15:16.239
Sammy Callahan's team that might there might be some violence
2516
02:15:16.279 --> 02:15:19.119
in that somewhere. Plus Jake Cris versus Dave Chris and
2517
02:15:19.199 --> 02:15:21.920
the I don't know Battle of in the Battle of
2518
02:15:22.199 --> 02:15:25.439
the Chris. I don't think Ruth Chris will get involved
2519
02:15:25.479 --> 02:15:25.840
in this one.
2520
02:15:27.079 --> 02:15:30.399
We're definitely hungry. I guess this should not be confused
2521
02:15:30.439 --> 02:15:31.479
as war games, right.
2522
02:15:31.439 --> 02:15:35.920
Pat, This is game No, it's Armageddon Games, completely different games.
2523
02:15:36.159 --> 02:15:37.880
There are weapons in it. It's kind of actually that
2524
02:15:37.960 --> 02:15:41.199
sounds more like lethal lockdown, but that's obviously something different
2525
02:15:41.319 --> 02:15:45.840
as well. Of course it is because those are all trademarked.
2526
02:15:45.840 --> 02:15:51.720
To say, yeah, okay, I should check to make sure. Yes, yes,
2527
02:15:52.039 --> 02:15:57.439
WWE Superstars is Friday on the WW network, James, We've
2528
02:15:57.479 --> 02:16:00.279
been waiting all week for Friday Night and Superstars. What's
2529
02:16:00.319 --> 02:16:00.760
it gonna be?
2530
02:16:02.199 --> 02:16:04.079
Let me see, let me, let me see. We got
2531
02:16:04.199 --> 02:16:09.079
a report it was I'm gonna go back. I gotta
2532
02:16:09.079 --> 02:16:15.520
I gotta picture it, Pat, I gotta picture it. I
2533
02:16:16.119 --> 02:16:19.439
completely drawn. Uh, the essential is in a match. I
2534
02:16:19.439 --> 02:16:24.119
don't think it was a main event though, I don't
2535
02:16:24.119 --> 02:16:25.359
remember the singles match, Pat.
2536
02:16:26.279 --> 02:16:29.439
The main map of Superstars is Zach Ryder versus Stardust
2537
02:16:29.439 --> 02:16:33.000
State match, but obviously obviously a pivotal match in the
2538
02:16:33.600 --> 02:16:34.479
ww universe.
2539
02:16:34.959 --> 02:16:36.159
Okay, that's why I don't remember it.
2540
02:16:36.719 --> 02:16:39.600
Yeah, I believe me. I understand why you don't remember it.
2541
02:16:39.920 --> 02:16:40.360
That's fine.
2542
02:16:40.399 --> 02:16:42.079
Yeah, let's see.
2543
02:16:42.120 --> 02:16:43.879
What's the ascensions match? Are they in the match?
2544
02:16:44.000 --> 02:16:44.399
Tech matic?
2545
02:16:44.559 --> 02:16:47.120
I now, and now I'm gonna have to look right, well,
2546
02:16:47.200 --> 02:16:50.360
I'll look at it. Yeah, Actually, I think I think
2547
02:16:50.440 --> 02:16:52.200
they are. I think they're getting I think that I
2548
02:16:52.239 --> 02:16:56.600
think they're working Swagger and Henry again, and you are correct.
2549
02:16:56.719 --> 02:16:57.799
Yes, that is right.
2550
02:16:58.639 --> 02:17:02.040
That sounded familiar. All right, good deal. Then of course
2551
02:17:02.079 --> 02:17:04.879
you have w W main Event on Hulu Plus and
2552
02:17:04.879 --> 02:17:08.319
Sports and at three sixty this Friday. Speaking of speaking
2553
02:17:08.360 --> 02:17:10.600
of big matchups, we have an eight man tag on
2554
02:17:10.840 --> 02:17:13.280
we main event, James. It will be the usso's teaming
2555
02:17:13.360 --> 02:17:17.399
with the Primetime players against the Cosmic Wasteland and Tyler Breeze.
2556
02:17:18.440 --> 02:17:19.040
That's one match.
2557
02:17:19.200 --> 02:17:21.840
So it is definitely the decision to start this week
2558
02:17:21.959 --> 02:17:23.879
on on the few level.
2559
02:17:24.319 --> 02:17:26.760
At the Cosmic Wasteland time plus the main event on
2560
02:17:26.879 --> 02:17:30.159
main Event, Tage and Italia team up against Team Bad
2561
02:17:30.360 --> 02:17:32.120
of Naomi and Tamina.
2562
02:17:35.719 --> 02:17:39.440
That division is so up and down it's like, I'm.
2563
02:17:39.319 --> 02:17:41.079
Just gonna stip it. I am not making this up.
2564
02:17:42.760 --> 02:17:46.879
That's all the people need to know. I'm all right.
2565
02:17:47.239 --> 02:17:50.159
This Friday in San Antonio, it's River City. No, Actually,
2566
02:17:50.200 --> 02:17:52.760
let's go ahead and let's move on. There've got NXT
2567
02:17:53.040 --> 02:17:56.040
on Tour, The A Show. The NXT A Show is Thursday,
2568
02:17:56.079 --> 02:18:00.760
Friday Saturday, hitting Memphis, Nashville, and Indianapolis. Finn Hour Bailey,
2569
02:18:00.840 --> 02:18:03.520
Samoa Joe Sparren Corban blah blah blah blah blah blah
2570
02:18:03.559 --> 02:18:07.399
blah blah blah. Yeah, actually that's kind of weird, James.
2571
02:18:07.799 --> 02:18:10.760
You just had smack Down on Tuesday in Memphis, and
2572
02:18:10.799 --> 02:18:14.239
now you're gonna have NXC there tomorrow, and somebody's got
2573
02:18:14.319 --> 02:18:16.239
to tell us, uh, which show draws better?
2574
02:18:18.840 --> 02:18:21.760
Well, obviously, I mean well smack I guess I shouldn't
2575
02:18:21.760 --> 02:18:24.559
say obviously it smacked on tapings or sometimes not that
2576
02:18:24.639 --> 02:18:28.559
well attended. But you would assume that with them, Yeah,
2577
02:18:28.559 --> 02:18:31.879
an NXC, it's the smaller I don't even I can't
2578
02:18:31.879 --> 02:18:34.239
remember the name of the building whatever, the building is
2579
02:18:34.520 --> 02:18:36.920
the smaller venue that you would assume that FedEx formed
2580
02:18:36.959 --> 02:18:38.680
the still out to draw the NX show.
2581
02:18:38.719 --> 02:18:41.360
But yes, you would think if you if.
2582
02:18:41.319 --> 02:18:44.879
You put if you put both shows and FedEx Forum
2583
02:18:45.479 --> 02:18:47.319
put a smacked on taping on Tuesday, and then if
2584
02:18:47.360 --> 02:18:50.319
you loaded up n XT on a Thursday, I'd be
2585
02:18:50.440 --> 02:18:52.680
curious what the difference of being the draw. I'd be
2586
02:18:52.840 --> 02:18:53.760
very curious about.
2587
02:18:53.520 --> 02:18:57.360
That, as would I. I would also be very curious about.
2588
02:18:57.159 --> 02:18:58.440
That I should have done that.
2589
02:18:59.280 --> 02:19:04.520
Okay, well let's see what we have here. Oh yes, Uh,
2590
02:19:04.680 --> 02:19:07.120
then of course the NXTV show Friday in Lakeland, Florida,
2591
02:19:07.559 --> 02:19:11.079
Saturday in Bartow, Florida. The Hype Brothers of BOD Villains
2592
02:19:11.159 --> 02:19:13.000
Osca and Emma will be there unless they're not.
2593
02:19:14.399 --> 02:19:17.079
Which was the case last weekend when Hype Brothers were.
2594
02:19:19.280 --> 02:19:19.520
Shows.
2595
02:19:19.559 --> 02:19:21.239
They got said to the main roster tour.
2596
02:19:21.280 --> 02:19:22.719
And and I think I didn't. I don't remember the
2597
02:19:22.799 --> 02:19:24.319
vod villains being out there either, So.
2598
02:19:25.879 --> 02:19:26.840
What were they doing.
2599
02:19:27.760 --> 02:19:29.959
I'd have to go back and read Greg's report he was.
2600
02:19:30.000 --> 02:19:33.680
Live over the week they had. They have the well,
2601
02:19:33.719 --> 02:19:34.959
Oscar and Emma was the main event.
2602
02:19:35.040 --> 02:19:36.239
Obviously that was the main event.
2603
02:19:36.360 --> 02:19:41.799
Yep, Okay, then I got that going for us. Don't
2604
02:19:41.840 --> 02:19:44.879
forget hey purview this Friday p and A one, not
2605
02:19:45.040 --> 02:19:49.600
only the February version, as they present Rivals to Electric Boogaloo.
2606
02:19:49.680 --> 02:19:51.479
I may have made part of that name upside, but
2607
02:19:52.239 --> 02:19:54.280
on that program, as we talked about, it will be
2608
02:19:54.719 --> 02:19:56.920
on Rivals too. It will be Davey Richards versus Eddie
2609
02:19:57.000 --> 02:19:59.719
Edwards and of course Matt Hardy versus Ethan Carter. The
2610
02:19:59.760 --> 02:20:01.680
third the match you've all been waiting.
2611
02:20:01.479 --> 02:20:04.760
For pay per view matches.
2612
02:20:04.520 --> 02:20:07.079
That's only on Tenna's one. Not only pay per view.
2613
02:20:08.360 --> 02:20:10.760
And again on probably that future one too.
2614
02:20:10.920 --> 02:20:14.959
Yes, yes, apparent and also apparently the March one not
2615
02:20:15.120 --> 02:20:17.360
only pay per view will have been taped in three
2616
02:20:17.399 --> 02:20:22.360
different buildings, the in Bethlehem, London and Birmingham. That won't
2617
02:20:22.399 --> 02:20:22.840
be awkward.
2618
02:20:25.920 --> 02:20:28.799
I assume Matthews and popably in the studio for that broadcast.
2619
02:20:28.920 --> 02:20:32.280
Yeah, one would expect. Yes, we'll find out.
2620
02:20:37.280 --> 02:20:40.799
I'm Chris Maitland and I'm Justin mcclellands. We host Wrestling
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02:20:40.840 --> 02:20:43.120
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2622
02:20:43.159 --> 02:20:45.159
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02:20:50.559 --> 02:20:52.879
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02:21:02.879 --> 02:21:05.040
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02:21:05.120 --> 02:21:07.120
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02:21:09.040 --> 02:21:11.479
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02:21:11.520 --> 02:21:12.040
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02:21:12.479 --> 02:21:13.559
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02:21:16.280 --> 02:21:20.360
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02:21:20.719 --> 02:21:21.639
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2639
02:21:21.959 --> 02:21:24.360
Actually, Chris, I think we stick pretty much to wrestling.
2640
02:21:24.559 --> 02:21:26.840
No, I mean Beyond Wrestling out of Wooster, oh right.
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02:21:27.120 --> 02:21:29.639
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02:21:51.200 --> 02:21:54.600
Okay, River sidewhere else Bring this Friday in San Antonio.
2648
02:21:54.680 --> 02:21:56.760
There having a big show this weekend at a eight
2649
02:21:56.840 --> 02:21:59.799
man tag It'll be Hernandoz, Body Star Joey Spectro and
2650
02:21:59.840 --> 02:22:02.680
the Ile of Doom against Benny Babo, Jack Delfino, Cody
2651
02:22:02.760 --> 02:22:06.680
Crash and Ali Kat And in the main event, Alic
2652
02:22:06.719 --> 02:22:08.639
Snow goes one on one with Paul Titan.
2653
02:22:09.959 --> 02:22:13.399
Who's Paul Titans, I don't know.
2654
02:22:13.799 --> 02:22:16.440
He's apparently somebody who wrestles for River City wrestling.
2655
02:22:19.200 --> 02:22:22.479
I'm curious about this that you're he's not.
2656
02:22:22.559 --> 02:22:23.719
Just Titan, he has a first name.
2657
02:22:24.440 --> 02:22:24.639
Yeah.
2658
02:22:25.079 --> 02:22:25.680
I go back to.
2659
02:22:27.840 --> 02:22:31.920
Eleven years ago when Trighton he introduced a character named
2660
02:22:31.959 --> 02:22:33.639
Titan who is feed with Kevin Nash.
2661
02:22:33.639 --> 02:22:35.360
You know the height thing, and.
2662
02:22:37.479 --> 02:22:38.840
I'm doubting this is the same guy.
2663
02:22:38.920 --> 02:22:41.799
For some reason, he's resurfaced all these years later with
2664
02:22:41.879 --> 02:22:42.360
the first name.
2665
02:22:42.479 --> 02:22:47.879
Yes, Okay, Well, we'll find out as we go forward,
2666
02:22:47.959 --> 02:22:49.680
as we always do. Ring him on it on sim
2667
02:22:49.760 --> 02:22:52.959
clairebat Broadcast Group Television this weekend, the War Machine defends
2668
02:22:52.959 --> 02:22:54.959
the r H titles against the All Night Express. Check
2669
02:22:54.959 --> 02:22:59.600
your local listenings and that'll be fun. Uh w w's
2670
02:22:59.639 --> 02:23:05.200
by this Friday, Calgary, this Saturday, Penticton, British Columbia. It
2671
02:23:05.360 --> 02:23:07.319
looks like, as best as I can piece together, the
2672
02:23:07.360 --> 02:23:09.040
lineup is supposed to be Caane and the w Boys
2673
02:23:09.079 --> 02:23:11.719
against the Wyatt family and the main event of Dean
2674
02:23:11.760 --> 02:23:13.479
Ambrose versus Bray Wyatt.
2675
02:23:15.280 --> 02:23:19.799
Well, Dean and Brave Well, gosh did they progressed each
2676
02:23:19.799 --> 02:23:21.600
other twenty five thousand times by now?
2677
02:23:21.760 --> 02:23:23.559
So I'm guessing guess Kevin.
2678
02:23:25.079 --> 02:23:28.200
This year, Yeah, they're gonna figure how to match up
2679
02:23:28.200 --> 02:23:31.200
some of these guys together. So yeah, they just talked
2680
02:23:31.200 --> 02:23:32.639
about the stars available.
2681
02:23:32.959 --> 02:23:37.280
All right, Uh, the WWA show Saturday, San Jose Sunday
2682
02:23:37.440 --> 02:23:42.799
and Beautiful Abbotsford, British Columbia. Looks like the Saturday show
2683
02:23:42.799 --> 02:23:45.600
will be brack Lesnar versus Alberta Del Rio and the
2684
02:23:45.680 --> 02:23:48.040
Sunday show is supposed to be Dolph Zigler versus Alberto
2685
02:23:48.120 --> 02:23:51.239
Del Rio and Roman Reigns versus Seamus is the announced
2686
02:23:51.280 --> 02:23:54.159
main event. No telling whether that's going to happen.
2687
02:23:54.200 --> 02:24:00.000
Actually, yeah, especially injuries and things like that, and yeah,
2688
02:24:00.280 --> 02:24:01.520
I mean he hurt obviously.
2689
02:24:02.319 --> 02:24:05.559
Yeah, well, you know, God forbid, they pulled God forbid,
2690
02:24:05.559 --> 02:24:07.479
they announced it and and injured wrestler is not going
2691
02:24:07.559 --> 02:24:12.760
to make it to the show. But they've they've also
2692
02:24:12.840 --> 02:24:15.959
been very sparse in the details of who's actually wrestling
2693
02:24:16.000 --> 02:24:17.920
home on the shows for but I guess there are
2694
02:24:17.920 --> 02:24:18.600
obvious reasons.
2695
02:24:18.639 --> 02:24:20.879
Now, yeah, yeah, that might be a.
2696
02:24:22.520 --> 02:24:24.879
Mak Okay, I'm looking at the w W website. I'm
2697
02:24:24.879 --> 02:24:27.280
going to guess that where where it says Roman Rains
2698
02:24:27.360 --> 02:24:29.440
versus Shamous, you can go ahead and put Roman Rains
2699
02:24:29.479 --> 02:24:30.280
versus Ruce seven.
2700
02:24:30.959 --> 02:24:33.000
Yeah, I think that's what I did last weekend too.
2701
02:24:33.120 --> 02:24:36.399
That makes sense, So there you go. That's that's good stuff.
2702
02:24:36.479 --> 02:24:40.200
All right. Let's see r H television taping this Saturday
2703
02:24:40.239 --> 02:24:43.440
in Nashville, Tennessee. Well right on the heels of NXT
2704
02:24:43.600 --> 02:24:49.799
being there Saturday. Adam Cole versus Matt Sidel and the
2705
02:24:49.879 --> 02:24:51.719
Briskoes taking on Alex Shelley.
2706
02:24:51.520 --> 02:24:52.120
And a h.
2707
02:24:52.239 --> 02:24:54.760
Those are the announced matches. There's also supposed to be
2708
02:24:54.799 --> 02:24:56.120
some sort of tag team goallet match.
2709
02:24:57.600 --> 02:25:01.000
Yeah, they've announced three of the seven for the seven
2710
02:25:01.120 --> 02:25:06.879
tag teams for that, so you know, no Rush yeah.
2711
02:25:07.399 --> 02:25:07.520
Uh.
2712
02:25:07.680 --> 02:25:10.920
The mystery team mixed out is you know your City
2713
02:25:10.959 --> 02:25:13.879
Bruiser and Silas. Sure so.
2714
02:25:14.040 --> 02:25:16.399
Actually I think they're actually scheduled for a match against
2715
02:25:16.639 --> 02:25:18.479
Dalton Castle's boys, so.
2716
02:25:18.520 --> 02:25:20.280
That should be a warm up for the Garblet, right
2717
02:25:20.399 --> 02:25:22.239
you know that suld be Yeah, pretty decisive match.
2718
02:25:22.399 --> 02:25:24.559
Maybe the winning team qualifies for the Garnlet. I don't
2719
02:25:24.559 --> 02:25:25.200
tell you, ah.
2720
02:25:25.280 --> 02:25:28.200
Now now we're putting our booking cap on pat as lux.
2721
02:25:28.120 --> 02:25:33.239
Luger would say, I don't know anyway, dreamway of wrestling
2722
02:25:33.280 --> 02:25:37.159
this Saturday and left down. I'm not getting ahead of myselfie.
2723
02:25:37.280 --> 02:25:39.440
Yeah it might be okay, let me get back to
2724
02:25:39.479 --> 02:25:42.360
that here, Actually Chaka has National Pro Wrestling Day This
2725
02:25:42.360 --> 02:25:46.000
Saturday in Reading, Pennsylvania, Dasher Hatfield will take on Missile
2726
02:25:46.040 --> 02:25:48.840
Assault Man, who apparently is no longer an ant. And
2727
02:25:49.000 --> 02:25:52.319
in the main event, Princess Kimberly, who is the Chaka
2728
02:25:52.559 --> 02:25:54.200
Strand Champion against Mickey James.
2729
02:25:55.399 --> 02:25:58.239
That's a significant medimn. That's a that's a pretty good
2730
02:25:58.239 --> 02:26:02.000
match to see. In writing, Tayes, I.
2731
02:26:02.000 --> 02:26:05.520
Would ask the main event any building in Reading on Saturday, Actually,
2732
02:26:05.920 --> 02:26:09.639
Greenway of Wrestling This Saturday in LaSalle, Illinois, ar Fox
2733
02:26:09.680 --> 02:26:13.479
battles Sammy Callahan for the alternative title. If you've seen
2734
02:26:13.520 --> 02:26:16.479
any of their matches and evolved in dragon Gate USA,
2735
02:26:17.040 --> 02:26:21.079
that was Yeah, that's fun stuff and it is into
2736
02:26:21.120 --> 02:26:24.760
your main event. Christian Rose defending the Dreamwave title against
2737
02:26:24.799 --> 02:26:26.719
Abyss in a monstrous ball match.
2738
02:26:27.600 --> 02:26:30.239
But I think you got RVD on that show too.
2739
02:26:30.440 --> 02:26:33.040
I don't know if you'll wrestle, but he's.
2740
02:26:33.200 --> 02:26:37.479
He's at that's a good point. Okay, we'll see what
2741
02:26:37.559 --> 02:26:44.520
happens that all right? Okay. Meanwhile, PCW is in Harper's Perry, West,
2742
02:26:44.559 --> 02:26:47.719
Virginia this Saturday for their big show. Kevin Thorne takes
2743
02:26:47.799 --> 02:26:51.079
on Alexander James and the main event it will be
2744
02:26:51.200 --> 02:26:53.000
Shane Douglas against Doug Delicious.
2745
02:26:56.079 --> 02:26:59.760
Uh that sounds interesting, Yes it does.
2746
02:27:00.479 --> 02:27:00.600
Uh?
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02:27:01.200 --> 02:27:04.079
Okay uh. And of course we get to the u
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02:27:04.239 --> 02:27:06.600
w A is in Toronto this Sunday for the big
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02:27:06.680 --> 02:27:10.280
pre super Bowl show. It'll be Cheach Martinez against Jonathan
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02:27:10.360 --> 02:27:13.680
Gresham and the main event Colin Delaney versus Lionel Lionel
2751
02:27:13.879 --> 02:27:16.879
Knight in a loser leaves u w A matchup.
2752
02:27:18.399 --> 02:27:18.879
Interesting.
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02:27:19.079 --> 02:27:21.600
Okay, are there any other big NDI shows that I'm
2754
02:27:21.600 --> 02:27:22.760
missing before we continue this?
2755
02:27:23.600 --> 02:27:27.239
Uh, Chikara, Dreamway, Rock star Ring of Honor Nuts. Those
2756
02:27:27.239 --> 02:27:29.760
are the big ones that I got listed. So I
2757
02:27:29.840 --> 02:27:33.319
know there's a lot next weekend, but not a lot
2758
02:27:33.360 --> 02:27:36.239
of people running because of the super Bowl weekend. So
2759
02:27:36.799 --> 02:27:37.719
I think we need the big ones.
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02:27:37.760 --> 02:27:40.799
Pat Well and w W is running, but they're running
2761
02:27:40.840 --> 02:27:43.079
in Canada, so yeah, of course they would.
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02:27:43.760 --> 02:27:46.120
That makes sense because because no one's that come to
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02:27:46.159 --> 02:27:48.680
see live Rusted in the US on Super Bowl Sunday.
2764
02:27:49.000 --> 02:27:51.399
Well, especially if there's not if they don't book a show. Yeah,
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02:27:53.040 --> 02:27:58.280
they've done, They've done live wrestling on Super Bowl ye shows.
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02:27:58.360 --> 02:28:01.040
Yeah, that's right, Yeah, you're right about that.
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02:28:01.120 --> 02:28:04.280
Fet Yeah, but not best time. I guess okay off
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02:28:04.799 --> 02:28:07.840
episode eleven eighty five on the USA Network from Seattle.
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02:28:07.920 --> 02:28:10.680
The Dark Match has been announced. It is Romin Rains
2770
02:28:10.719 --> 02:28:13.639
and Dean Ambrose against Kevin Owens and Russeth. Also advertised
2771
02:28:13.680 --> 02:28:16.840
for the show Triple H brack Lessner, Chris Jericho, Seamus
2772
02:28:17.079 --> 02:28:21.280
bray Wyatt and Alberto Del Rio not advertised. Callisto, New
2773
02:28:21.360 --> 02:28:24.360
Day or Charlotte. Yeah, because they have championship belts.
2774
02:28:26.360 --> 02:28:28.479
Yeah, well it's Raw, so.
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02:28:30.639 --> 02:28:31.479
Hopefull it's a better.
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02:28:31.360 --> 02:28:34.520
Show than this past Monday, I would think.
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02:28:34.600 --> 02:28:34.639
So.
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02:28:35.040 --> 02:28:37.959
Yeah, I think they'll. I think they'll pull it together.
2779
02:28:38.040 --> 02:28:42.520
Actually, as Brett Hart said in his interview, so they
2780
02:28:42.559 --> 02:28:43.719
need to put a wrap it out of the hat.
2781
02:28:43.879 --> 02:28:45.920
So yeah they do.
2782
02:28:46.719 --> 02:28:50.280
They might just have to do that. I understand. SmackDown
2783
02:28:50.319 --> 02:28:54.520
has taped this Tuesday in Portland, Oregon. Hunter Brock and
2784
02:28:54.600 --> 02:28:58.639
Seamus not advertised. However, the usso's and Rye Back are
2785
02:28:58.719 --> 02:29:01.680
advertised for SmackDown. So we'll get your ride back fix
2786
02:29:01.799 --> 02:29:02.159
next week.
2787
02:29:02.959 --> 02:29:05.360
Yeah, you know, right Back might be a future guy
2788
02:29:05.399 --> 02:29:08.040
on SmackDown. Now he was nowhere to be seen on Raw,
2789
02:29:08.120 --> 02:29:09.840
but I think he's, you know, maybe going to be
2790
02:29:09.879 --> 02:29:13.239
introduced to a featured act on SmackDown, which I guess
2791
02:29:13.280 --> 02:29:15.040
that's good you got.
2792
02:29:15.040 --> 02:29:16.360
I mean, you got to change it up a little bit.
2793
02:29:16.360 --> 02:29:18.440
I like the idea of having guys wrestle on rod
2794
02:29:18.840 --> 02:29:22.559
Backdown who went on Raw. You know, nothing's really wrong
2795
02:29:22.600 --> 02:29:22.760
with that.
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02:29:23.479 --> 02:29:23.559
Uh.
2797
02:29:23.680 --> 02:29:26.559
And of course TNA Impact Wrestling Cut is coming Tuesday
2798
02:29:26.639 --> 02:29:29.079
on Pop TV. They were taping somewhere in England. I
2799
02:29:29.120 --> 02:29:34.079
don't remember which one. That Manchester is Uptown Manchester first. Yeah, okay, anyway,
2800
02:29:34.120 --> 02:29:36.760
you'll get to see beer Money taking on the DK
2801
02:29:37.639 --> 02:29:40.799
and the main event is curtent Angle versus Drew Galloway.
2802
02:29:41.680 --> 02:29:45.479
And we'll go Fawell Tour and we'll go over all
2803
02:29:45.559 --> 02:29:45.879
that with.
2804
02:29:46.239 --> 02:29:48.680
The Hurricane when he is on the show next Wednesday.
2805
02:29:49.719 --> 02:29:52.280
Yeah, that'll be that Actually can be an Impact postgame
2806
02:29:52.360 --> 02:29:55.159
show in sort of a delayed way with.
2807
02:29:56.639 --> 02:29:59.040
Your show following the Impact as close as we ever
2808
02:29:59.120 --> 02:30:00.559
come to an Impact game show.
2809
02:30:00.639 --> 02:30:03.120
Yeah, that is right, that's right on there, you go.
2810
02:30:04.399 --> 02:30:06.639
Okay, that's a lot of a lot of good stuff
2811
02:30:06.680 --> 02:30:10.280
coming well, and some of some of it we just
2812
02:30:10.360 --> 02:30:11.120
hope is good stuff.
2813
02:30:12.559 --> 02:30:14.680
Well, that is always the hope, especial Monday nights.
2814
02:30:15.479 --> 02:30:18.159
Yeah, we got Lucha Underground back. Wednesday nights are busy again.
2815
02:30:19.239 --> 02:30:22.680
Yeah, we got nx C Luca a Ring of Honor.
2816
02:30:22.799 --> 02:30:23.680
Yeah, it's h.
2817
02:30:25.239 --> 02:30:27.319
And there was wasn't there time? Yeah, TNA was on
2818
02:30:27.399 --> 02:30:29.159
Wednesdays too, There were all four shows were on.
2819
02:30:29.760 --> 02:30:31.079
I know, the same night that was.
2820
02:30:31.159 --> 02:30:33.239
That was a wow craziness man.
2821
02:30:33.879 --> 02:30:34.040
Yeah.
2822
02:30:35.159 --> 02:30:38.440
Yeah, imaginely put all those reports up on Wednesday nights.
2823
02:30:38.479 --> 02:30:39.000
Yeah it was.
2824
02:30:39.879 --> 02:30:41.879
Now those were Wednesday nights. You know, you had four
2825
02:30:41.920 --> 02:30:44.000
reports coming in from four DIFFERDT shows.
2826
02:30:45.200 --> 02:30:48.120
There they were all right, uh, Shytown Rumbles still in
2827
02:30:48.200 --> 02:30:48.879
the lead, by the way.
2828
02:30:49.559 --> 02:30:49.920
There you go.
2829
02:30:50.239 --> 02:30:52.920
Well, I'm glad to see that my vote is helping
2830
02:30:52.959 --> 02:30:53.239
out here.
2831
02:30:53.600 --> 02:30:57.440
Yes, every vote matters. Poort on guys, Okay, and James
2832
02:30:57.440 --> 02:30:59.840
and I will be back to doing it next week,
2833
02:31:00.040 --> 02:31:03.399
the same Pat time, same Pat channel. You're gonna be ready, James,
2834
02:31:04.200 --> 02:31:04.520
I'll be.
2835
02:31:04.559 --> 02:31:05.079
Ready, Pat.
2836
02:31:06.040 --> 02:31:07.200
What do you like in the Super Bowl?
2837
02:31:08.280 --> 02:31:08.440
Oh?
2838
02:31:08.600 --> 02:31:09.639
Good, good question.
2839
02:31:13.040 --> 02:31:16.760
I just don't know if if Peyton can handle Carolina's defense,
2840
02:31:18.319 --> 02:31:21.319
but Denver's defense will be motivated. I think this might
2841
02:31:21.360 --> 02:31:23.360
actually be a low scoring game. I'm going to give
2842
02:31:23.360 --> 02:31:24.639
it to Carolina by a field goal.
2843
02:31:24.680 --> 02:31:28.360
Pat, Yeah, I think I've got to take Carolina too.
2844
02:31:28.440 --> 02:31:30.479
They're favored, and you know I live here, so.
2845
02:31:32.120 --> 02:31:33.159
You're gonna have to pick them.
2846
02:31:34.000 --> 02:31:34.200
Yeah.
2847
02:31:34.680 --> 02:31:36.840
Plus, you know, and the Bruis would be upset if
2848
02:31:36.840 --> 02:31:37.559
you didn't, of course.
2849
02:31:37.799 --> 02:31:40.120
Plus you're betting against Denver in the Super Bowl, which
2850
02:31:40.159 --> 02:31:42.399
has always been an easy thing to do frankly.
2851
02:31:42.840 --> 02:31:47.360
So yeah, yeah, two years ago it was not good. Yeah.
2852
02:31:48.000 --> 02:31:50.559
Although if Denver wins, does this mean Peyton finally retires?
2853
02:31:51.239 --> 02:31:51.719
I think so.
2854
02:31:51.959 --> 02:31:56.600
I well, speak of Colin Duney, you know, winter loser
2855
02:31:56.719 --> 02:31:57.200
leaves town.
2856
02:31:57.840 --> 02:31:58.760
I think this is a.
2857
02:32:00.319 --> 02:32:04.200
If he wins, he's retiring. If he doesn't wins, he
2858
02:32:04.399 --> 02:32:07.079
might still retire. But I think he wants to win
2859
02:32:07.159 --> 02:32:09.840
and go out. So you know, John Elway did the.
2860
02:32:09.799 --> 02:32:10.719
Same thing so here.
2861
02:32:11.200 --> 02:32:12.719
That's kind of what I suspect as well.
2862
02:32:12.959 --> 02:32:16.479
So yeah, I think I think. I think Cam pulls
2863
02:32:16.479 --> 02:32:19.799
it out for Carolina though, and and then uh, and
2864
02:32:19.879 --> 02:32:22.360
then and then Peyton's gonna decide if you want to
2865
02:32:22.399 --> 02:32:23.639
come back and try again next year.
2866
02:32:24.760 --> 02:32:28.440
Yeah, Okay, that all sounds good. Well, I want to
2867
02:32:28.520 --> 02:32:30.479
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2868
02:32:30.719 --> 02:32:34.120
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