Rob McConnell Interviews - COLM HOLLAND - Follow The Omens, and The Secret of The Alchemist

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Welcome to the Xisode, a place where fact is fiction
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and fiction is reality. Now here's your host, Rob Kano.
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I saw him sitting in the room, rain drops falling.
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She didn't see the cads. She sat there smiling me.
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Then I need.
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She could make me happy.
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I was in a way, I was anywhere.
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And welcome back to the X Zone. Our final segment
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much from everyone here at the X Zone Nation speaking
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about good friends. This hour, our guest is call him
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Holland and he is the publisher of The Alchemist by
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Pullo cole Ho. I don't know if I said that right,
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and founder of the School of alchemy transformation then call them.
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Welcome to the show, my friend, Rob.
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It's great to be back with you again. I think
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it's about a year since we last spoke.
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Yes, sir, and how have you been? How did you
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and your family fair with COVID?
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Thanks for asking, you know, I'm really good. Yes, we
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got through it. Like everybody else. My heart goes out
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to everyone who has family with young children and elderly
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parents and juggling life and sheltering people. Yeah, we got
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through it. Thank you. And for many people actually that
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I know and I've been in contact with, it was
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quite a transformational time, it sure what yeah, and I
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know for you personally from your story recently, how how
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majorly transformation it was. But for those of us who
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maybe just live such busy lives and preoccupy with all
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the demands, you know, really important demand of the day,
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to actually be forced to just be alone for a
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while and to sit with their own thoughts can be
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actually quite useful. But condolences go to everyone who lost
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loved ones. That is a particularly hard thing and we
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would not wish that on anybody. But we got through.
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Thank you, We got through. And Colin, I apologize for
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the anunciation of the author of The Alchemist. Could you please?
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Could you please? Paolo Kalo? It's Portuguese, a Portuguese name.
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He is really well known around the world, so people
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will forgive you, don't worry, and different people pronounce it.
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In English it means Paul White.
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Oh my gosh, how did you come to publish The Alchemist?
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Yeah? Great, great question. So I thirty years ago. Gosh,
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not as long as you've been podcasting there, sure, but yeah,
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thirty years ago. I was working in a publishing as
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Harperconmin's Publishers in Sydney, and the manuscript for this book
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The Alchemist fell on my desk and I had to
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decide how many copies we would sell in Australia. And
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I read it and I just it was one of
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those Eureka moments. And I'm going to talk a bit
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about omens and about following omens, but reading that book
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and taking it home that weekend was an omen. I
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just had this intuitive sense that I should do it.
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It's now one of it's probably the third best selling
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book of any living author in the world. Oh my gosh,
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there's only two other authors. I mean, most people have
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heard of Harry Potter and The Philosopher's Stone by JK.
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Rowling and The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown. Well,
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the third best selling book is The Alchemist by Power
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Can and I'm just I'm just betting up that there's
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hundreds of your listeners who are going to go, yeah,
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I know that book. Wow, Okay, yeah, the Alchemist. Wow
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that Yeah, that's really made a shift in my life. Yeah,
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I must, I must find a copy of it again
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and read it. That's the usual reaction.
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I get.
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There's plenty of people that read it years ago. But
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why why would a book called The Alchemist, which is
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a novel by the way, it's not a self help
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book by any means, it's a novel. Why would that
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book sell almost one hundred million copies. You know, we
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estimate that if every one of those people has lent
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the book to somebody else, then that's that's over two
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hundred million people globally, in seventy different languages have read
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this book. And it all goes back to my backyard
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on that day in Australia when I read that story
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and I just decided that this book was going to
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be a global bestseller, and it was something about the
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omens that led me to read the book the topic
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of omens and synchronicity and coincidences and why they happen
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and why we should pay attention to them and how
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they can help us in our own personal life in
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terms of our inner transformation, inner growth towards well being.
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So yeah, that was my initiation into this book The Alchemist,
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and I've actually written about it last year when you
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and I spoke. I just published my book, which is
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the Secret of the Alchemist by me Colin Holland, and
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it's available on Amazon or Audible, Kindle, book whatever, and
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I explained there the impact, the incredible impact that the
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original book The Alchemist had on me personally, and how
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it came to me at a particular moment in my life.
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It was what I call my Alchemy moment, if you
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like to coin the phrase from the book, when my
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life was literally transformed as I began to delve and
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immerse myself in the whole world of what I now
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call alchemy transformation.
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Do you think everyone has the ability to follow the omens,
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but they just for some reason don't get it. And
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if there is a way that they can get it,
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what would it be.
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Yeah, great's Rob's that's one hundred million dollar question. Why
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do some people see the omens recognize them? So what
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isn't that Let's just quickly explain what I know is.
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Let me give you an example. When I made the
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decision to write my book, The Secret of the Alchemist,
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it was just something that was brilli in my mind.
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I was sort of making the commitment to do I
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knew how much work that was going to be involved.
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In fact, it turned out to be three years work
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for me. And I guess, you know, many people are
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saying that how much they love my book, and I said, well,
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you know, I put my heart and soul in that.
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But the decision to put my heart and soul into
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it and expose my vulnerability and expose my life for
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other people to be able to identify in their own
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journeys with my journey of transformation, I just didn't even
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I didn't say okay, give me an omen. I didn't
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sort of turn to the universe or turn to my
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heart and say okay, I need a sign here. I
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just kind of was sitting with it, should I do this?
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And that's one of the beginnings of how we can
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instigate omens in our life is when we sit with
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a thought, we sit with an intention, and we say
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to ourselves, is this the right direction for me to
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be going? And should I do this? Should I do
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should I carry on as I am? Or should I
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make a change in my life? When we do that,
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there's this amazing phenomenon takes place in my experience. Is
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that the universe, for want of a better phrase, or spirit,
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or our own energy or the collective unconscious, here's our intent.
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It listens to the decision making that we're trying to make.
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And if it's important, and if it's something that's going
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to benefit us and he's going to bring us the
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well being that we're looking for, then according to the
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story of the quis all of the universe will conspire,
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that will conspire to help make that happen, and it
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will do it by giving you am. So I decided,
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should I write this book? Shall I make this decision?
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The next day I took my grandson to a bookshop,
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secondhand bokshop, and we were buying some children's books. And
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I just sent to the bookshop and oh, you wouldn't
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happen to have a copy of The Alchemist? I mean,
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this is years and years after the book was You
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wouldn't happen to have a copy of The Alchemist? Would
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you buy? I just said, oh, you're not going to
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believe this. She said, but somebody brought a second hand
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copy in just yesterday. In fact, look here, it is
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just underneath my count here. I haven't even had the
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chance to put it on the shelf yet. And I said,
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I'll buy it. I'll buy it. So I bought that
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and I took it here, and okay, omen number one
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she had a copy that somebody brought in years. The
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next day, I got on a flight. I got up
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out of my seat, turned around as the plane landed,
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and guess what, I can hear? Everybody's already saying it.
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There was a lady right behind me. What was she doing?
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Read reading The Alchemist? Twenty five years after it was published.
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I got to my hotel where I was going, and
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I booked in and I went to my room, and
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I came down to go to the restaurant. And I
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sat there in the restaurant next day and I looked
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across at the table opposite me, and guess what the
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man was reading while he was eating the Alchemist. So
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this stuff happens, So why did that happen to me?
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And to answer your question, why does it happen to
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smon not to others? It happens to us when we
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open ourselves to the power of love in the universe,
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which wants us to grow, wants us to be whole,
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wants us to move into a place of wellness, and
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knows the state that we're in right now.
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All right, Colin, I here to do this, but I've
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got to take my break. Explanation Colin and I return
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on the other side of this break. Fascinating topic. Fascinating guests.
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Don't go away, she said, Honey, lose my mine. I
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need fine. Fine, one call Mane Mamasenka.
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Just saccay est game and give us.
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You got just.
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Matter, have long.
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And welcome back here you one call him Holland gives
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our special guest this hour and his website is School
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of Alchemy Transformation dot com. So let me see you
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were in the hotel, you went down for breakfast and
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lo and behold there's another person reading The Alchemist.
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Yeah, three people reading The Alchemist took in the space
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of two days. Me finding it in the bookshop and
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what was the question. Let me just remind everybody I
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was asking a question in my mind, in my heart.
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Should I give the best part of my life going
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forward in the next few years to write this book
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about my experience with the original book The Alchemist by
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Paul Kalo? Should I write my book The Secret of
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the Alchemist? Is this something that the universe that this is?
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Is this my destiny? Is this the direction that I
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should be taking my life. I'm in control, I'm the
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one making the decision. But is this going to benefit me?
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And is it going to benefit the universe? When we
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ask those kind of questions, it's my experience and those
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many of the students that are members of my school
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as well tell me day in day out that the
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universe just gives us an omen Let me just give
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you one other example. A friend, a friend of mine
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who has become a friend of mine now members, who
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joined the school quite recently. She said she was in
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the pro saying well, should I join the school? Should
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I join Colin's school or not? Is this the right thing?
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You know, I'm a busy person. She's a very professional
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medical person, very busy with patients and so on. But
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just felt that maybe this was something she should do.
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And she was driving home and in England where she lives,
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everybody normally just has a normal registration plate on their car.
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In other words, it's just a bunch of random numbers.
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Very occasionally people spend a lot of money. You have
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to buy, you know, to buy a number plate to
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put your name on it, and so you've got to
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have quite a bit of money to this, so it's rare.
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It's not common to see like in the States sometimes,
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you know, everybody's got a personal number plates. And she
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was driving home and she was asking this question in
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her mind at the time. She was driving home and
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she stopped at a stoplight. She looked at the car
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in front and it said pawlo wow powlo ha ha,
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and she just she laughed. She just she she always
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had to put she had a pull over because she
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was laughing so loudly to herself. And she called me
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or the fact or texted me on her phone at
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the time and she said, sign me up. She said,
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it doesn't get much better than that if I needed,
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you know, And it's been great and it was the
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right decision for her. But so those people who say
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what are you guys talking about. I've never I've never
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seen anything like this, or maybe yeah, you know, there
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was that one thing that happened to me once and
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I just kind of shrugged it off, didn't put any
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meaning on it. My sort of encouragement to everybody listening
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who would love to begin to experience sort of the
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supernatural power of omens. It's then the first step is
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to put your intent towards your own well being and
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think about your life, think about the direction your life
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is going, and think about is this really what I want?
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Or could I have something better. The moment you begin
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to do that, love and I call it unconditional love.
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By the way, the energy, the force in the universe
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that does all this for us is listening to you
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and is almost waiting for you to come to that decision.
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The moment you make that decision, then omens, synchronosities, coincidences,
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strange out of the ordinary events will begin to happen.
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But the interesting thing about those events is they will
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have direct meaning for you personally in your journey and progress.
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So if you haven't experienced it yet, give it a try.
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That's my recommendation, and just see what happens, the magic
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will begin to unfold.
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Com tell us about your online school, Great Christ, thank you.
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Yeah. The school is the result of my study of
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the novel by Paolo O. Kale, The Alchemists, And what
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I realized in that book is that his life and
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the reason he wrote that story is that he had
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discovered the power of ancient alchemy. And for those of
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you who've got no idea what that is, which was
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like me when I first began to be introduced to
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this subject, and I went off and started doing the
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study on my own, what I discovered is for centuries,
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for millennia, certain men and women have discovered a power
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and a process which enables us to not necessarily, as
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some of us might think of alchemists, just turned solid lead,
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you know, the real metal into gold, which is what
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they're sort of mythologically famous. Or what we've discovered, and
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what Parallel discovered and several other people I'll talk about
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them in a moment, is that what the alchemists were
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really doing is doing exactly what many of us are
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doing today, is they were going through a state of
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personal inner transformation, and that alchemy is just a metaphor
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for that. But they'd mastered the process. They've found that
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there was some specific steps that you could take in
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your well being journey, which they then coined the phrase
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this is alchemy, that if we follow those steps, we
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can almost put our personal transformation on steroids if you like.
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So the Scholl of alchemy transformation is me revealing to
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my students what these steps are, how they can benefit
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your personal journey, and how they can, if you like,
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rev it up rather than just going through life with
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one one episode and then another episode and just thinking, oh,
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life is just one big struggle. I wish I could
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boost myself somehow through this. Then what the alchemist discovered
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is there is a way to move things on quickly
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so that we don't have to wait till we pass
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on in this life. We can actually begin to see
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the benefits of our own transformation here and now. So
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that was what got me really excited and why I thought,
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I really need to write this book, and I really
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need to start this school because I want to share
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this with other people because this has been the reality
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of my life.
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So what kind of changes have students seen in their
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lives once they complete your course?
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Yeah, so not everybody, but a vast majority of the
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students have come to the course for one simple reason,
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once reason alone, is that they've been on a personal
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journey of transformation. They've made the commitment to pursue well being.
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But every now and again, particularly in middle age, no
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offense to middle aged people. I'm well beyond that, guys,
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so don't worry. But particularly in middle age, there is
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a very common occurrence to hit some kind of block,
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just some kind of wall internally, some kind of road
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bump that seems at the point that it becomes a
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bit of a crisis that we just can't get over,
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we can't get around it, and in some cases we
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don't even know what it is. We've tried this therapy,
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we've done that course, we've read these books, hundreds of books.
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We've followed this teacher, We've done that. I've done me too,
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you know, I've done all of those things. And yeah,
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it doesn't matter what I write. The more I try,
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the worse it kind of things to do. There's just
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that one block. Well, one of the secrets of alchemy
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is that love, unconditional love, when we follow the steps
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of alchemy, will reveal what that block is. Amazing, incredible,
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shifts in people's lives, and the context of the school
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is really to just create a safe environment, which it is.
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It's all confidential, it's one on one, it's an online course.
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Nobody is exposing their vulnerability in any way. But it's
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a place where we can bring our inner vulnerability to
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be met and for the work to begin in our
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relationship to unconditional love. So that's really what the school
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is all about. It's not an academic course. I mean,
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there is some reading to do, but it's more about
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moving the inner block and getting around that and moving
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on in your life.
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So when we talk about unconditional love, and I've got
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about a minute here, how could we best identify it
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when we actually see it?
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There is a force, there is a power, There is
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a spirit, there is an energy in the universe, and
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we all acknowledge it. Many of us agnology in different ways.
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But I just decided that it had a character, it
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had a personality. It doesn't have to be a deity necessarily.
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I'm not going to call give it a name in
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that regard, but I just wanted to identify its characters.
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So I've identified that force and energy as the power
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of unconditional love, which means we are completely and utterly
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accepted by love just as we are. And if we
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can appropriate that love by ourselves for ourselves, that's when
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the transformational work can begin.
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Colm, I've got to take my news at the bottom
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of the hour. Please stand by exponation. If you'd like
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to find out more about Colm, visit his website School
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of Alchemy Transformation dot com. Too good to be true?
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I don't think so. I believe that you have the
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ability to change. But in order to change, you have
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to know what the issues are. You can't change something
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that you're where totally unaware of that actually exists. Right,
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We'll be back on the other side of this break.
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Don't away.
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I was going above as a prison a face.
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I didn't want to be.
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Soon ago.
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I they an decisions, be.
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Put loosing fancy breeze.
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But you came and I was so tempted to gamble on.
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Love just one time. I never thought I wouldn't get cold.
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It seemed like the basic crime.
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Wady me Facevan, I've only got money, but me away say.
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Done in the first degree.
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Welcome back everyone. Our guess this hour is Colem Holland
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and his website is School of transferm. I'm sorry, School
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of Alchemy Transformation dot com. Calm. Do you see that
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people are understanding that alchemy is more of the change
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of the inside instead of the metallic changing from lead
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to gold that we've seen so many times in fairy tales.
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Yeah, that's you're absolutely right. I mean, there's some great movies,
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there's some great books are based around it. I mean,
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Harry Potter Is is full of alchemy references, for example,
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and it's probably one of the best selling books. And
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you know, teenagers, there's got to be a lot of
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your listeners, you know who huge fans of that. There
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is a there is a connection which we should acknowledge,
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which is the the connection between the inner work that
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our key and our emotions want to follow and the
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metaphorical mythological patterns and procedures that appear usually in books
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and films and so on. And we're really mesmerized by these,
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and you know, we're so easy to get taken up
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by the metaphor by the myth. Star Wars is, you know,
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going back many years now, of course, Star Wars was
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a classic example of of the whole principle of the
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hero's journey, for example, with Luke Skywalker being the hero
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of that and Harry Potter the hero of the Potter books.
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But what all of these things are trying to represent,
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and they're like mirrors to us, is that we too
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are the hero. We too are the person on the journey,
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and it's an inner journey. Sometimes it hasn't out manifestations. Yes,
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sometimes we make decisions to go on literal journeys, you know,
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with a spiritual with a spiritual angle to them, and
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retreats and other things, and that's all fine. But ultimately,
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what the Alchemists discovered in their an in a journey
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of what they call transmutation, we call it transformation now.
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And what I've discovered is that our souls, our inner
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beings themselves, want us to progress, want us to become whole.
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And we have a choice. We can either encourage that,
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if you like, as adults, we can encourage it and
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become part of it and be an active participant in it,
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or we can just ignore it. But my belief that
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we ignore it at our peril. That's a really dangerous
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thing to do in your life because if you one,
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if you ignore it for too long, then you may
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just completely bury it and burying that desire to progress
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and to move on to well being and to live
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a more fulfilled life and to discover empowerment, personal empowerment
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where you're not being swayed this way and that way
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by other forces, but you're in control of your life.
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Ignoring all of that is a real peril and somewhere
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in our psyche, in our soul, that has to get
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buried somewhere, And the problem with that I've discovered is
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the more we bury it, the more powerful its influence becomes.
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And it has this really nasty and unwanted habit of
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breaking out of wherever it is that we've buried it
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in our psyche and breaking into our everyday life, usually
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in unwelcome and unwanted ways, ways that hurt us, ways
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that hurt the people that we love the most surround us,
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can hurt our careers, can hurt our health, can hurt
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our mental well being. This is dangerous stuff when we
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make this decision to bury the feelings and to bury
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this desire to move on. So what the alchemist discovered
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is that rather than do that, why don't we find
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a way to make friends with that part of ourselves
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that we've buried away. Why don't we find a way
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to begin to put and bring love which means acceptance,
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lack of judgment, no condemnation, just bringing love which fully
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accepts us as we are into those places of our lives,
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to bring in the light, to shine a light into
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those dark spots, show us who we really are, but
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then help us accept who we really are. And so
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the power of unconditional love, combined in my experience with
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the processes and steps of of alchemy, are truly transformational
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and safe and reassuring as a process as well. There's
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nothing scary, folks in this at all. This is probably
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one of the most compassionate and loving ways of treating
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ourselves and moving forward.
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What's it like being the head master of your own school?
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The headmaster? No, I sometimes I feel like I'm the
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naughty pupil has been sent out of class and go
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and stand outside. It's not that kind of school, obviously.
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I mean we end up being we're a bunch of
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friends and we're all over the world. We've got students
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in Australia, in South Africa, all over Europe, all over
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the US, Canada. I mean we're everywhere. It's only in English.
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I'm sorry to say, at the moment the school is
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in English. I do have my book published in French,
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Le Secree del Alchemist, which is the Secret of the
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Alchemist in French. So I'm starting to get some interest
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from from people in France, but they have to speak
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English as well at the moment. But you know, I'm
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not the head master. I'm in a way, I am
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an alchemist for the people who need just someone else
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to sort of hold their hand at that critical moment.
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That's really my job is to you know, I kind
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of understand where you are, and I know what the
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journey takes. I know the price that you have to pay.
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I know the cost and some of the pain and
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the wounds that you have to face because I've been
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there and together you know, other students, We've got a
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bit of an alumni really, of people who support one another.
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So that's one of the other aspects of it. So
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we're not alone in when we take that choice, when
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we make that move to pursue our true wellbeing. The
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other great news I have for everybody is that suddenly
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we will find new friends, we will find new supporters,
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and the school is an environment that encourages that.
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So when you were putting the curriculum together, yes, how
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did the process go? Because you know, I would imagine
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there's a stretch from being a publisher like you are
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and working with Harper Collins like you did, to coming
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up with this entire concept, putting it down on paper, yeah,
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looking at U saying my god, I've done it, and
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then getting your first pupil.
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Yes, well we've got lots of pupils now, but yes
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there was the first pupil, and well there were several
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pupils at the same time. What happened just chronologically, so
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published the book The Alchemist in Australia jumped for twenty
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seven years the decision I made to write my book.
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I wrote my book. It was published last year. From
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the very day that my book hit the bookshops and
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Amazon and elsewhere, people started to contact me and people
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were saying to me, quite simply, calm, I so resonate.
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I so identify with you and your journey. I love
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the process that you've offered in your book. Is there
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any way you know I can work with you? Is
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there any way I can learn more about this? And
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so I essentially I took the key principles from my
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book The Secret of the Alchemist, and I turn them
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into five modules twenty five video lessons with notes. You
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can work your way through your own own pace. But
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what I'm doing in each of those is I'm saying
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this isn't just theory, guys. What we have to do
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is read this, listen to this, and then reflect and
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think about how does this impact my life in my journey,
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in my stage right now, where am I in the journey?
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The journey is in alchemy has three distinct stages. Is
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what's called the black phase, the white phase, and the
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red phase, and these symbolize different processes in our internal
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process where we identify the parts that need healing. The
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white phase us in the black phase, the white phases
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where we call in the power of unconditioned love to
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perform the healing. And then the red phase is where
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we integrate that into our everyday life and move forward
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in empower, in an empowered way to effect a change
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in our own personal life, in the lives of those
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around us, where we're bringing love and light and that
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same unconditional love to other people.
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When you say that you call in that power basically
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to correct or to heal. Does everybody have that power?
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely rock absolutely all humans have
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that power. It is what makes us divine.
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All right, I hate to do this again, but we've
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got this final break. I'm sorry about this. My friend
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colemb Holland is our special guest x O Nation and
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if you'd like to find out more about Colemb, if
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you'd like to take his course, here's the website School
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of Alchemy Transformation dot com. School of Alchemy Transformation dot Com.
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And I'll be back on the other side as we
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wrap up tonight here in the X Zone from our
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broadcast center and studios in Crystal Beach, Ontario, Canada. I'll
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be back. Don't go away.
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Those schools.
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Oh jelling tails and body.
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But in LO.
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I know they will still is.
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But how do you thank someone who has taken you
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from crayons.
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To pursue.
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It is an easy body child.
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If he wanted the sky.
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And welcome back everyone. Paul my Holland is our special
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guesta and the website is School of Alchemy Transformation dot com.
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First of all, my friend, thank you so much for
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joining us tonight. All is great pleasure talking to you
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and when you look at your school, where do you
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see it in the future.
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The School of Alchemy Transformation's ultimate aim is to encourage
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people to consider their own destiny. And by destiny what
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I mean is not something that's already written in the
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book of fate, and the story of the Alchemist condemns
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it from in a very early part of the story.
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Light is life is not necessarily controlled by fate. In fact,
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I would say that I agree with Pollakata that that's
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probably one of the greatest lies in the in human thinking.
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We are the masters of our destiny, and we can
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control the future, and we can move forward, and we
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can make a choice, which is are we going to
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be a positive participant in life and in our life?
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Are we going to be somebody who leaves a legacy
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of love and of positivity and creativity, or are we
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going to be somebody who's just held back, sometimes unwillingly,
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held back by obstacles and weights that really hold us down.
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You know, the metaphor of lead is a really good one,
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because what is lead. It's a really heavy metal and
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sometimes that's how it feels in our souls. We are
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weighed down with that just that lump of lead, which
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we don't even know what it is, and we can't forward.
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So the score of the future, of the score of
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Alchemy Transformation, is to encourage each of us to find
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that place, that divine place within ours that can be transformed.
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And here's the thing, and this is one of the
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things you'll discover if you if you do read my
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book or you join the school, is that that place
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of lead, that bit of ourselves that we see is
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sort of dark and heavy within us, that is our
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greatest treasure. That is the gold, that is our destiny.
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That's the power that can drive our destiny. And what
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we just need to do is to allow love and
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our own inner self worth to work its magic on
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that lump of lead and transform it into our gold.
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And that's what I see happening every day in the
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School of Alchemy Transformation. And sometimes people come to me
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and say, you know, calm, you know, am I beyond hope?
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Is it too late for me? I got you know,
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I've been doing this for so long now I just
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don't know. And I say, no, no, no, never, It's
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never too late. The universe is their love is there,
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and it lives within you. And it's just wanting your participation,
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And it means that the adult you, the one who
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can make decisions, has to collaborate with the inner you,
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which is sometimes represented as a child. That collaboration gives
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birth to, as the Alchemist called it, the philosopher's child,
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which is this new birth, this new self that can
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emerge out of that collaboration.
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Do you think that your school would have been as
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successful as it is, and I'm sure it's just going
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to skyrocket. Do you think it would have had the
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same opportunities twenty years ago that it has today? No?
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Good, that's really good point, Rob, Thank you for making it. No,
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I don't think it would, because I think there is
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a zeitgeist, those of you who know the meaning, There
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is a zeitgeist in our society at the moment, Western
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and Eastern. There is a growing thirst and hunger amongst
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all of us for personal growth, of personal wellbeing, for
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personal transformation. And it's manifested in all kinds of ways.
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And I'm sure some of your listeners are already practitioners
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in various parts of that process of growth. But I'm
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just bringing my contribution, my discovery, which is the reality
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of ancient alchemy and how it can harness the power
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of unconditional love, and how this is what our souls want.
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I'm not introducing something that is just not part of
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human evolution. This helps us to evolve as individuals, it
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will help help us to evolve as a species, it
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will help us to evolve as societies. And it starts
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with one step with one person, and that's you. It's
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your it's your destiny, it's your contribution. And yeah, I
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think over the last twenty years there's been an amazing
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growth in awareness that this is actually possible.
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It also seems at times that what we're talking about
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has been tried to be taught to societies and to
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the world by the ancients. It worked, and then all
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of a sudden, people stopped thinking, people stopped understanding, people
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stopped being compassionate, people stop being loving. And here we
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have my friend Calm, who's reigniting that fire.
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Yeah, yes, a good, good point. The fire is a flame,
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and like all flames, sometimes it goes dim and sometimes
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it burns brightly. But I genuinely believe the flame is
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always has always been there. It's part of being human.
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And we have an amazing opportunity, but also an amazing responsibility.
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Our role in the universe, our role as human beings
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individually and collectively, is to become agents of unconditional love.
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That is the one unique aspect of being human. The
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sun can't do it, the moon can't do it. Nature
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absorbs it. But the channel through which the whole of
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creation wants to bring love into the world is us.
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It's me, It's you, with all our foibles, with all
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our failings, with all of our issues, with all of
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our problems, but also with our power to be creative,
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with the power of unconditional love. That's what gets me
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out of bed in the morning. Everyone. That's what drives
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me forward is the knowledge, that knowledge and that hope
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that together we are progressing. We can transform, We can
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transform ourselves, and we can transform the world around us.
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Plus it makes us a better person.
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Yes, well, better in the sense that we have learned
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to live with ourselves and that we can learn to
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live and accept that those around us. Yes, if that's
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what better is an absolutely rob I agree with that.
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You know, one of the most awakening sentences I've ever heard,
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many years ago was if you can't love yourself, no
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one else will. So I think that we need to
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take responsibility. We need to understand that we're part of
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something wonderful called the human race, and that we're all
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connected individual units are so many people would like to
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think we are, But we're part of a collective, part
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of a group. And I firmly believe that working as
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a collective and a group, that there is no challenge
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that the people on this little blue planet cannot surmount.
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Agree, Yes, wholeheartedly, Rob, wholeheartedly. And who knows out there
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right now there's me with my school of alchemy transformation.
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What if right now there's somebody out there listening to
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this who is going to be, you know, individually a
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major force in helping and encouraging us to do that.
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And we'll discover them one day, And it will because
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of your broadcast, Rob, that they made that commitment to
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moving in your journey. So you and you and your
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broadcast do have done faithfully. Congratulations over so many years
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encouraging all of us to pursue this with this way
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of life.
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Well, once again, I have to get my parents credit
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because many many years ago, sitting on the front porch
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of our home and south through Montreal, looking at the
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river and there's a we had a train track beside us,
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and my dad said, you know, son, and I figured, oh,
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this is going to be earth shattering. Dad's actually talking.
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He says, you know, a son in life, it's like
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a tunnel. There's you know, there'll always be that light
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in that at the end of the tunnel. All you
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have to do is look for it. And I said
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to myself, my God, how profound. And then he said,
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but knowing you in your case will be an oncoming train. Anyway,
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we must say so long for tonight, my friend. I
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do wish you and yours the very best continued success,
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and I look forward to the next time you and
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I meet back here in the X Zone.
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Very much. So love and blessings to you, Rob, Love
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and blessings to everyone.
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Take care, my good friend, be safe and sound, and
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regards to the family.
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Thank you, Thanks same to you all.
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Right, ex oonation, what an hour this has been inspirational.
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I've got a funny feeling, and I'm not a psychic.
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I've got a funny feeling that some people tonight have
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had their eyes open, their hearts open through the four
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guests that we've had on their show. Thank you for
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being their extonation. I'll be back tomorrow night at ten
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o'clock as once again we cross the time space continuum
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to this place that I call the X Zone. To
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all my staff here at the XON Radio TV Show,
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thank you, to my senior executive producer, my lovely wife
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and best friend, Laura Rodgers, Thank you, sweetheart. And to
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each and every one of you, Thank you for allowing
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us to be in your home, your car, no matter
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where you're listening to us, on this planet or those above.
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Good Night, everyone,