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The same surgery. The same doctor. The same hospital. Same insurer, but a different insurance plan and a price that's three times higher. That's not a hypothetical. It's the daily reality of healthcare in 2026, and it's what Dr. Allison (Alli) Oakes, VP and Chief Research Officer at Trilliant Health, has spent her career trying to fix.
Alli sat down with Nathan C Bowser live at Vive 2026 to talk through what health plan price transparency data reveals about the American healthcare system.
Trilliant sits at an unusual vantage point: not a provider, payer, or employer, but an independent research engine that aggregates claims data, price transparency data, and provider directories to give stakeholders a picture of their full market — including where patients are leaking out and where money is leaving the system without explanation.
Her hot take closes the episode: be as bold about de-adopting technology that isn't performing as you are about adopting the new thing.
Key Moments:
- [00:03:12] What Trilliant Health Does: How claims data, price transparency data, and provider directories combine to show what no single stakeholder can see alone.
- [00:04:19] The Price Variation Problem: Same procedure, same market, three to ten times the cost depending on your payer — and why it's solvable.
- [00:08:25] Garbage In, Garbage Out — Multiplied: Why generative AI makes clean data more critical, and how Trilliant built a five-to-seven-year head start.
- [00:11:38] The Value Equation: Healthcare is 18% of US GDP with worse outcomes than comparable countries. Patients can't shop their way out of this problem.
- [00:16:49] The Hot Take: Rapid experimentation only works if you're equally bold about cutting what the data says isn't working.
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About Allison Oakes, Ph.D.
Dr. Allison (Alli) Oakes is a health services researcher dedicated to translating complex data into actionable insights. With a background spanning academia, government, health systems, and payers, she brings a comprehensive perspective to the complexities of the U.S. healthcare system.
As Chief Research Officer at Trilliant Health, Alli leverages extensive internal datasets to inform strategic decision-making across the industry.
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When you have garbage that goes into your models, you get garbage out.
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I was so excited to talk to Alli Oakes.
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She's the VP and Chief Research Officer at Trilliant Health.
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We talk about claims, we talk about price transparency, and we talk about what it takes to have real effective responsible AI in healthcare today.
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