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Speaker 1: Now, the Shotgun Starting golf is full of mathematics. There's a lot of a lot of setup work that we have to do in order to make a tournament work. So I'm going to demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a shotgun start here and where we go.
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Speaker 2: Alright, alright, alright.
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Speaker 1: Did no man.
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Speaker 2: Dart your.
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Speaker 3: Griddy to Welcome to a Wednesday edition of the Shotgun Start. It is May sixth Andy, how we doing.
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Speaker 2: Brendan, I'm doing fantastic. I just got my beek wet with a media day at uh one of, if not the best golf course in the world, Shinnecock one.
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Speaker 3: If not, it sounds like recency biased. No, you've held that in very high regard before.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right at the tippy top it is.
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Speaker 3: It's a good place, good place to play golf. You had, you enjoyed yourself.
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Speaker 2: I was talking to a media member. They're like, how's this not the best? And I said, well, it's like a restaurant, like do you have in the mood for Italian? Or am I in the mood for a burger or steak? You know, you go to different restaurants. So depending on what type of mood you're in. I would I would say that, you know, if if the if the shinnecock mood is your fancy, it could be the best on a given day.
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Speaker 3: It's it's a good day. That's a great day. It's it's just I mean, God, eighteen is like one of the fonnest memories. Just like the weather was perfect, just like a great, great championship. Hoping for that again here in a couple of weeks. I'm glad you enjoyed. Your day looked like a windy one.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the media day of the US opens overshadowing the PGA.
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Speaker 3: Is that a talking point that's happening?
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Speaker 2: I feel like it. Well, I mean it does this every year with this date thing.
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Speaker 3: Is that so many dates?
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Speaker 2: Well, I know, but it seems like the PGA doesn't even like do any like lead US.
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Speaker 3: They stopped doing that. Why, I guess because it's May and there's you know, if you're in Philly, or they just don't want to do it in March or what are they talking.
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Speaker 2: About early April?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I uh, I'm glad. I'm happy for you. It looks good. Be ready to test the best of the world coming there. And about whatever it would be six seven, seven weeks something like that. Was it really slow when I played it in eighteen they had the greens like they hadn't touched them. Obviously, the heather's not heather whatever. The fescue is not super high at that point, right, You're not like getting totally jammed early May. But the greens were slow, and I.
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Speaker 2: Played the grease were rolling enough. It was also blowing like gustin. Probably up to thirty people that saw her shotgun start Instagram got treated to some nice wind audio.
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Speaker 3: You got popped hit in the the the Corey Paven forward. It wasn't for you.
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Speaker 2: You said, they hit the ball so good today. It was like the worst swing I made. I mean to be fair. The U s G. A, you know, they put on a great program. It was nice to have a grateful champion that decided to attend media day.
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Speaker 3: He came up there, JJ Spond came up. Uh.
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Speaker 2: You know, I like to point out I'm sure we'll get to some quotes from uh from two time US Open champion Bryson to shambo a little in a little bit. But they you know, he's not he's no show. The U s G. A to the last two times he's the only two times, is that right? Yeah? One time I think he tried to call call in to the media press conference from his car while he was driving and it dropped. And then I believe last year he might have overslept.
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Speaker 3: Really Yeah, so jack up ceremony at Pinehurst. Remember, like the Monday after the Masters, after he had just gone body backed at last year's Masters. He did go to the plaque ceremony at Pinehurst for that. But Doug, all right, glad JJ was there.
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Speaker 2: That's gonna pop him because they made it seem like we were hitting Corey Paven's actual forward.
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Speaker 3: And there's no way that that is just like they've got that at the ready. Well a bunch of sucks like just PLoP around with that thing like you're a good player, but I'm just not to be, you know, unkind to our colleagues like, yeah, there's probably a lot of just hacks. They would just let every old hacks.
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Speaker 2: They made it. They made it. They were like, you get to hit Corey Paven's vast forwood is what's that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Then we get there and there's still like a stick picker half taken off from playing against sports.
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, it can't be the original, like off the rack sticker, but it's playing against sports.
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Speaker 2: I think it's thirty nine dollars. I mean, what a ripoff for that vast forward thirty or thirty five.
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's good.
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Speaker 2: It honestly looked like somebody tried to take the sticker off and got tired.
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Speaker 3: And I know that feeling. I know.
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Speaker 2: I often like I was like, hey, Amy, I'll go my wife, can you get this?
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Speaker 3: I'm having trouble, don't have the nails. But I'm really just lazy. It's like I kind of done with this shit. That's good.
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Speaker 2: I ended up like fifty yards left of the green with it.
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Speaker 3: Okay, it did look like it. It went hard, hard.
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Speaker 2: Left, start left and kept going.
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Speaker 3: Last year wasn't a good swing, I thought, honestly, the media reenactment challenge should have been the running putt at thirteen. Yes, a bunch of husky media members scamper and scurrying across the green and trying to hit a moving ball.
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Speaker 2: I thought numerous of my playing partners basically reenact Phil at times in the round. I mean, that place is putting anybody blowing names? Yeah, a friend of ours from Golf Digest and have been a colleague of ours at Friday Golf.
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Speaker 3: Okay, oh all right, well there you go. You know, I was just thinking about it, and I don't think anybody wants it this way. What's like Paven's forward for sure memorable? What are the most memorable.
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Speaker 2: Shots at Shinnacock after that the two thousands US Open? I honestly think like ropy putts from from Goosen.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like it's the syringing and it's Phil and like that's that's sort of the shame of what Phil did, and I think he regrets it. Like obviously there were better and more consequential shots, but like the most famous shot from that US Open might be that now, like thirty years from now.
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Speaker 2: Runner up Zach Johnson quick quotes, Yeah, it's kind of you know, we need we need a paving.
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Speaker 3: Forward style shot to come through this.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think Brooks had a lot of like really high quality golf cups, insanely hard golf course coming down the stretch eleven, he was amazing eleven. There were a lot of like clutch potts. Yes, I feel like at the end of the day that golf course is so hard that some of the moments become the guy that just can make consequential ten footers for par because you're bound to have a bunch of them. Yeah, it's so hard. If I mean, I hope one day where it blowed the way it blowed today. It's like the hardest part about the wind out there is putting because all the greens are up high. It's nutty, how hard it. Like, I just got back from the last rounds I played were in Scotland where it's blowing all the time, but like I had more trouble putting there. It was.
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Speaker 3: It was nuts Well, excited about that. We'll have the PGA here next week. I'm excited about Ronomic too, drive up to Philly for that. Check out Ourronomic video on YouTube. Pj's not with us. PJ had his own media day, which curious scheduling the Travelers Championship media day at TPC River Highlands. PJ didn't make the cat. I guess he's in the he's not in the fancy boys at Shinnacock trip. He went to Travelers, which I don't understand why they would do that. It's like a tri state New York based area media day, like same day as Shinnacock to River Highlands. Like, I get that there's probably some New Englanders that come down that don't go to SHUP, but like doesn't seem like ideal planning for the travelers. But PJ was there representing. I guess he was one group behind Boomer Chris Permit, so he's very happy with that he got.
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Speaker 2: Out at US Open Media.
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Speaker 3: W f A n or I think it's WF an the Boomer sizin Boomer Sison without it.
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Speaker 2: I agree with it. I was thinking about it last night. I had I had just a hellish travel day. Just basically every single aspect of the trip got delayed in some form or fashion.
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Speaker 3: Everything the car pick up, like everything.
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Speaker 2: Every single thing like down to like the tram, to the to the rental car. And I'm driving across Long Island at like one in the morning last night or this morning, and I was thinking about how Peaja was waking up and driving the opposite way to Connecticut and then today we're going to be driving. Yeah, but driving on Long Island sucks.
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Speaker 3: Oh It's bad. It's just awful.
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Speaker 2: It's fifty five everywhere you're on these roads. There's cops everywhere.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, cameras. I assume, Oh that's tough. That's tough thing. I'm glad you got through it, you made it, you got better travel day tomorrow. It sounds like, so hey, when need to address something we said there, we said there'd be more ads. There were more ads. We didn't know exactly what ads. We heard about some apologies. I guess one of these was for Ashley Madison, which I was not familiar with, was being a thing and apparently, you know, it's basically a service to facilitate extramarital affairs.
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Speaker 2: So you know, if you hear about that. I listened to the ad. I gave it a spin when I heard heard about it. Yeah, the AD did say that they they are more than what their reputation is to see, you know, I mean, well, they bring Scott O'Neil out to that's his next gig, getting Ashley Madison back in the reputable corners. I don't know, if you hear any, just call it out, Ashley Madison, James Madison, Madison, bufguard any Madison, just text us, let us know, send to SGS email.
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Speaker 3: Well, we've raised the issue. That's not gonna happen, might happen again.
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Speaker 2: I was thinking maybe we should just let it get as ridiculous as it possibly could.
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Speaker 3: Well, do you think it was a targeted ad? You know, there's a lot of listeners that are involved in the PGA Tour traveling circus. We've heard about these sort of behind the moat. You know, maybe this is just let's targeted targeting the audience that they're that they're looking for. Who knows. Uh, yeah, well we'll figure it out. We'll get it down. There's not one for table games in New York. What's going on there? Like people listen to a golf podcast can run down of the Greyhound station by a ticket to Times Square, play Roulette. I don't know. Just tend us a note. We'll keep them on that a straight and arrow, or try to trying to get back on the straight and arrow. Is John Rob He's sorted out a deal with the DP World Tour. They've come to reconciliate. Reconciliation. He will pay all fines, he will play the events. The DP World Tour issued a statement. Rob said there were some concessions on both sides. I offered some They extended an olive branch. That will not be a stress anymore. I would say the olive branch had been extended, had been out there. He kept kind of slapping it away or walking by the olive branch. You know, wasn't you know, non existent until today, it had been there. He just was the loan holdout and feels like sort of the facts on the ground, the dynamic of the situation has changed in the last few weeks, and so he's back or a DP World tour eligible.
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Speaker 2: Now, this was the most predictable thing happening with with the Live news. Well, I don't know if it's it's actually news. We haven't gotten all the sources, you know, anfirm, but yeah, when there's there was news that Lived was in trouble, this was so predictable. I'm actually a little disappointed in just a guy Kennings.
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Speaker 3: Why, I'll tell you what. I tell you what, Guy Kennings is doing better than his predecessor right now. He's gott Keith Pelly just getting lam baseded by the May Believe Toronto Press. That was one of the most insane press conferences I've ever seen. And he's sitting there in his blue rimmed glasses and this guy's saying you just hired a fraud, a sham, a con artist, and the other guy sitting right there. I need to hear more from our people from the north about like is this reporter and I mean nobody happy with Pelly right now, nobody in the Toronto or the hockey world.
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Speaker 2: I bet Pelly wishes he had just stuck to golf. He should have listened to you know, whatever heat whatever Twitter commentator says to golf, golf media, stick to golf.
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Speaker 3: So they've got just the guy Kinnings.
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Speaker 2: Now, well, just a guy caved.
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Speaker 3: What do you do?
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Speaker 2: Rob was coming back no matter what. He caved on the minimum events. Yeah he got the fine money, but he caved one minimum event. He should have he should have vixed. Now it's five. Is that what it was? I think I think that's the cave. He should have just held strong.
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Speaker 3: Here Rom's wife is doing October, which God is how many kids that's got? It feels like he's having a kid every like fall.
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Speaker 2: We were talking about college education expenses. He doesn't have to worry about that because he got the live money. One day, he could kids as he wants.
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Speaker 3: Actually, next day, you know, I never know, you just think he should have held firm.
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Speaker 2: I mean the guy was coming back, was he yes? I mean did you see his comments about like his contract.
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Speaker 3: Oh he's a sad boy.
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Speaker 2: It's basically like, yeah, they did a good job with the contract. I can't get out of it. So if it's playing, if they're playing next year, I'm here.
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you. I watched the video. Andy, like the sadness was palpable. He waited like three seconds. I actually timed it. He like stares with his mouth open, like kind of just long forlornly at the ground as he like probably considers how to answer. You could just kind of see the regret like falling out of his face as he waits to say the next few words. Because so so I don't see many ways out. I don't see many ways out as of right now. They have very good lawyers. They probably did a pretty good job when they drafted. I mean, it's like hostage hostage talk.
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Speaker 2: You know what this feels like? This is is wild. This ever happens in golf. This is a rare time, But this happens all the time in the real world. Somebody leaves one job that's really good and takes another job that is going to pay them more, But then they get in that job and they're like, oh my god, I'm I'm I'm so miserable here, but I can't get out of this because there might be a non competer whatever.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he also like, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: The contract doesn't seem like I'm gonna get to Scott O'Neill in a minute.
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Speaker 3: We got a lot to digest on his front. But they asked, like Scott, like, is he committed to paynout player contracts that go beyond this year? He goes, I don't even know how to think about answering that. He goes, But then later he goes, they're under contract. I have them, and you know, are they under contract for next year? He's like, I don't know. That's an interesting question, Like, honestly, these contracts are.
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Speaker 2: Who's paying them?
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Speaker 3: Like they had like John ram As a contract through what I call it twenty whatever it is, I forget off the top of my head, twenty eight or something. But Scott O'Neill can't answer the question of who's paying that contract, then he might not have a contract. I just feel like that Seinfeld of like you have a reservation, but you're the point of the reservation is to hold the reservation. This contract may have no money attached to it for the next year.
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Speaker 2: I saw the thing where there was a quote, and I'm sorry, I don't I didn't have enough time to get all my quotes pulled up. But I was skimming through through it. I was actually skimming through it while listening to Mike wan tak full disclosure. I mean the Scott O'Neill.
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Speaker 3: About the next fifty years, what we'll do you for a kids that wouldn't start now. I'm kidding. He's great with the.
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Speaker 2: But anyways, he I saw something about like how he needs to separate the compensation from the business or something like about like the compensation No, Scott O'Neill, Oh yeah, it's like we need to separate the compensation for It's like, dude, this is all part of the business. It's all part of the whole thing. When you pay pay someone three hundred million dollars, it's not like the Dodgers don't get to be like, well, you know, we pay Otani all this money, but we we keep that c that's over here, and we don't count that with the business.
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Speaker 3: Over here. I mean, I guess there's a chance, like was Rom's entire thing up front and then just play for the play for the next five years. I don't, right, yeah annual co Yeah so yeah, no, that would that would mean that there might not be the money for the rest of the term.
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Speaker 2: Breaking news, breaking news. Did you see this just come across your head?
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Speaker 3: I did see it.
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Speaker 2: As we're talking about Pelly, he gets a stroke of good fortune. This is coming from producer PJ who's texting while driving, not taking the Jordan's speech. Pledge Keith Pelly wins the first pick in the draft.
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Speaker 3: Is there a McDavid Prospects style? Is this the Wemby style draft? That we don't have the chops to answer that?
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Speaker 2: How about Wemby? Just goaltending away? Last night I went to bed NBA the reps missing on a bunch of goaltends. Really he had twelve blocks. But they the twitter Sluice put together this thing. There's like a couple of them for sure, goaltends.
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Speaker 3: God and has I don't know, I don't know. Maybe they have officiating problem.
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Speaker 2: It's hard who has a bigger problem, the NBA with their officiating or Scott O'Neill, Scott, O'Neill, Scott, O'Neal. Do you feel bad for Rom? No, No, I don't. This is honestly sad. Honestly I've been I've been hoping this plays out kind of secretly. I think this is the most humorous way for this whole thing to play out, is if, like the contracts so iron clad that he ends up playing there with nobody else.
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Speaker 3: I he said, everybody was surprised, unexpected. We did hear the news that they'll be funding through for many years, so unexpected. Bryson to night, saying, they just told us we'd have funding through twenty thirty two. Whoops. Uh. Rom added, only time will tell. Scott and his team have a lot of hard work to do. We will need to be concessions on our part. The business plan has to change whatever they're coming up with. Uh. We want to be here, though. I bet Bryson is that form. No. I mean, unless he was sort of hoodwinked by somebody. But no, guy's done well for himself. He's made I think a career mistake, maybe not a financial one.
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Speaker 2: Legacy mistake, maybe not a monetary mistake, a legacy mistake for sure.
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Speaker 3: That seems pretty like indisputable at this point, right, come on, that's not like even giving it the most charitable reading. So Bryson, on the other hand, he spoke late. He got done with his obligations at the White House. He's doing a push up contest with Gary Player, you know, in the the front lawn of the White House. Went over to Live Trump derell or Trump Trump National, I should say, Virginia and Mark Schleybaugh of ESPN caught up with Bryson the thick boy or once thick boy.
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Speaker 2: God.
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Speaker 3: He looked in God, you know, Bryson kind of looks like built on the golf course and then you put it next to like Tjoshi, Noah Cindergard, these like other kind of quite frankly hodgepodge of athletic people. Todd Golden was there for some reason. I don't know why. And he doesn't look that big compared to you know, even t j Oshi. Here's people like that. But he gets out to Virginia. This is Mark Schleibah good good catching up by SCHLEYBADESPN dot com. They asked, what's the deal? Unlike Rob, he's done, He's got a year. So he's he's kind of searching and scanning the room. He's you know, on the the figure it of Ashley Madison of golf. He can go out and see what's out there on his golf career talking about golf. The Ashton figured it not it.
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Speaker 2: Could be today Ashley mast might be back.
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Speaker 3: To I think we've done more fresh medics in the last twenty five minutes, and they've done for themselves.
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Speaker 2: Did you ever vision the day that we we would have an Ashley Madison ad in here?
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Speaker 3: No? No, I didn't. No, So I was a little bit of a black box. I didn't know what it was. I kind of knew it wasn't good. I asked missus Pete like, not that he knows what it was, but he did the research because it was on our podcast, because yeah, like you used to have to like prove you were married to sign up for it.
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Speaker 2: I I just like I'd scrolled through it to just the ad marker and I was like, oh no.
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Speaker 3: Uh, Bryson. I think from my perspective, I'd love to grow my YouTube channel three times, maybe even more. The growth mindset three acts once you have millions something I would love to do a bunch of dubbing in different languages, giving the world more reason to watch YouTube. I mean, you know what, the whole world watches so much freaking YouTube. There's no it doesn't need any more reason. It doesn't need growth. You Bryson dubbing different like, it just doesn't. It's like the last thing that needs everything trying to grow. But it's a big I guess.
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Speaker 2: The music thing, this is just a little inside baseball with media. The music thing to be with with Bryson is he just finishing up playing for a golf league that literally just decided they don't want to be in the game of golf and just pulled the rug out from all these people. And you listen to his comments and it's like, oh, you know, I want to give the world more reason to watch YouTube. And we've seen these giant tech companies literally pull the rugout from like entire industries that are built on their platform. They changed the algauthm one day and it's like poof. So it's just like, oh, like I'm just gonna you know, it's just so why you have to build your own thing that's on your own platform that you control the distribution for that that's the the game. It's not you just Yeah, YouTube's super powerful. You can make a lot of money on it. You can you can reach a lot of people on it. But the reality, and you should learn this from Live, is that if you don't control the distribution, you don't like, it can be just gone the next day.
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Speaker 3: If you're playing just a bunch of tricks, games and tricks like, you have to have your voice that carries the different play the tricks on that platform, but keep your voice. And if you're just playing to one platform and those tricks, those tricks end up changing. You know, all of a sudden, you got to be able to shoot threes instead of dunk, and all of a sudden, that's you're out of a job or you're out of your audience. I don't know. They want to do debbing in different languages, given the world more reason to watch YouTube, and I'd love to play tournaments that want me. The egos need to get dropped. D Shambeau said when he was asked about punishment from the toy, said, quite unfortunate in my opinion, concidering what I could do for them, But the egos need to get dropped. That's the next quote was the egos need to get dropped. Everybody needs to come in with a love headed playing field. That's not a that's not a that's a mixed metaphor.
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Speaker 2: Level headed playing field field is that what Minnesota's basketball stadium is. Where the bench sits at the at the court level over your head, like looking at the court.
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Speaker 3: Level headed playing field, not a thing with an opportunistic mindset to grow the game of golf. You know what, as someone who's also been in this business for a while, I remember that phrase meant something because there was like nobody wanted anything to do with golf and it was the most uncool thing and it was dying. The game's growing, The phrase doesn't The game has grown. It's belt. The belt is stretched as far as it's going to go, I got, or it's stretched very far. That phrase doesn't mean anything. It never meant anything to begin with, but it literally it has absolute, totally vapid in twenty six the game's grown, It's grown, It's all grown up. Grow the game of golf. That's why I came over here, and that's why I do what I do on YouTube, he added, echoing Rob I was completely shocked about the piff dropping funding. A couple months before that, It's like, we're here until twenty thirty two. We've got financing of twenty thirty two, and so I told everybody that's what I was told. I think like there's a world in which this happened so fast. Clearly Bryson probably negotiating to figure out a deal to stay, thinking there's funding through twenty thirty two, thinking a lot of that funding might come to him. He's going to do his YouTube. He's never ever going to be in a position of Brooks or these other people or do the read thing. And I think that was like maybe a couple months ago, and now he's like, I don't know now, I just want to grow my YouTube audience and we need a level how to playing field. But yeah, twenty thirty two, I've had a playing field.
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Speaker 2: The ego thing is just so peak Bryson, Like, can we rewind the tape a little?
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Speaker 3: You want me to repeat that quote?
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, just rewind the Bryson tape. So he left accepted a giant offer to go play on Live. I would say that he hasn't been like necessarily friendly with his commentary. He hasn't been.
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Speaker 3: Super pagimistic, a little bit maybe.
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Speaker 2: Middle of the road.
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Speaker 3: Right, he's s popular as ever, look my base.
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Speaker 2: But then he's a free agent and they offer him away two pathways back. Meanwhile he is negotiating with Live to get another giant bag of money. Yes, they I think that they extended him an offer that was a giant sum of money. He rejected it and then they fold up.
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Speaker 3: Shot.
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Speaker 2: But it's like, because all this stuff happens to you, now is the time that everybody has to drop the you know, right now, I lost my negotiating battle with the piff because they decided they were spending any more money. Yeah, and now everybody needs to drop their egoes.
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Speaker 3: The offer he had that was zero because it doesn't exist. Look, I mean he's probably gonna I don't know, he he might ditch Live and like, you know what. Look, he left the tour and said, I'm still thinking about it. I don't know what, like what he'd already signed, Like he was like still talking on both sides of his mouth. That probably could happen here. I don't know. He says, I haven't had any community communication with the tour. Unfortunately, things are moving in a different direction. Obviously, Oh, he said with Piff. I haven't had any communication with Piff. Things are moving on in a different direction. Obviously they wanted to move. It sounded like Yaser just picked up his bags and left God like a wife who flees the middle of the night because she caught you on Ashley Madison. Never see her again. If we have a great business model, and they're very interested this in the tour and combining forces, that's the Kumbaya moment, right, do they have a great business model? Did this Bryson?
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Speaker 2: In what world is liv gonna have a great business model? Paying Bryson? However, one hundred million dollars you want? Well that those two things don't work together.
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Speaker 3: Let them lay it out for you. So it's our job to come up with a better business plan on the company, the live side, the team franchises. There's enough making profit now. Remember at Oakmond, he said, where he beat a he beat a positive that was oak There's enough making profit now to where we can sell them for close to two hundred million dollars. And that's not talking about my team either.
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Speaker 2: Hey, can I raise my hand and ask a question here?
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Speaker 3: Sure?
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Speaker 2: What were the Crushers even a positive. With Bryson's guaranteed payment number.
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Speaker 3: Included, one would assume not.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, does any other sports league work that way where the contracts for the players aren't shown on the team balance sheet?
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Speaker 3: Salary not a part of it.
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Speaker 2: So I'm buying I'm buying.
00:34:09
Speaker 3: The team paper.
00:34:11
Speaker 2: Who gets to they're even a positive because they get to split this The team winnings go into the team kitty and the sponsorships going there. But this team, in this current the way we're we're recognizing these finances is we don't recognize the salaries of the team members. Those go to the league. So the league is hemorrhaging money, which like, but the teams are a good investment. What are the crushers put it into the what was it thirty million to put on an event? Yeah? Like before the person is like crushers have nowhere to play. There's like the thing I'm learning though, is the crushers could survive past live and that is worth sir, two hundred million dollars.
00:35:02
Speaker 3: I think it requires a little bit of every just kind of lowering their guards and all coming together and going, Okay, what's best for the game of golf? Like, that's just how it's going to go.
00:35:12
Speaker 2: If I if you had unlimited money, you're the Saudi stuff and well fund, But you're not. You're We'll just say you're you know, you're a billionaire. You get we'll call it forty billion dollars. Money is no object, but you have common sense. What would be a reasonable sum of money that you would pay to buy the Crushers? Understanding the financial issues of the parent league?
00:35:50
Speaker 3: What am I buying as somebody else paying the Bryson contract? Is Bryson not on the Crushers. That's the issue. I think they're Bond, just Bond and Paul Casey? Who am I buying? What am I buying? The logo? The team that exists but can't play anywhere? Like, I don't know what I buy? Well, what would the number be? With your understanding? Now I'm a billionaire, you got forty billion dollars.
00:36:24
Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about anything, like.
00:36:26
Speaker 3: I don't know, like five million dollars, it's probably nothing to a forty billion, but it still seems insane. What am I buying ten million? I know, what would you spend? I don't know.
00:36:42
Speaker 2: I honestly if all the players are tied to the league. There's no value in the team franchises.
00:36:52
Speaker 3: Well, this is Scott O'Neil. I don't think we're moving Scott to Friday at this point.
00:36:56
Speaker 2: But well, everyone has a mother.
00:36:59
Speaker 3: We'll get to that. Scott says, like, all are the values and the teams, the values of the team. Oh, we're going to get to mother. We're gonna get to Scott's mother and mothers in general. What lasts about it for five minutes the ship, Well that's because he doesn't have anything to talk about. He doesn't have a plan to share, because I wish it was like two weeks later, I'd have my plan. I did a control f on Scott's transcript. He said the word business fifty times, fifty times business. This business that work, the business make the business we hate. We met him under the tree for a minute at Augusta. The boys met him. You and I stumbled in a little late, and Lemania did say, like he uses the word business a lot based on his chat there chat with him. So I did the control a f. It was fifty times. Ah, but that's his job. He's the business guy. Uh Bryson sort of the faux business guy. Okay, what's best for the game of golf. There's a few different models. Look, I mean, this isn't really going to grease the wheels. Back to the tour, he goes, Look, the tour isn't doing great either. Do you want to start lobbing grenades right now? Let's be honest about the situation. They've got the media, the corrupt golf media, I think, is what he's referring to. They've got everybody on that side that helps pump it up. Yeah, man, that's why they won. They had TV contracts in sixty years of history. That was like part of the deal. They've got everybody on that side that helps pump it up. But they're reducing field sizes, cutting employees and restructuring their business too, doing great either. So he's lobbing his grenade. That's Bryson via Mark schlebah good reporting on the ground, a little different tone fell, a little less sort of. But he's a free agent. We'll get to Scott O'Neill maybe here in a minute about the mothers, but first first, we got a word from our friends at B Dratty, not Ashton Madison, B Dratty.
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00:41:28
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00:41:35
Speaker 3: Are you're setting it up? All right? Some more live chatter. I did they they did bring on Do Sarah Partners. So they've got Zenman and Davis, Zinman and Davis. They've got Do Sarah Partners, which is uh it's a finance firm UH investment banking advisor to guide the league in its efforts to secure lawng term investment. I spoke to someone in the trade, let's just talk put it that way, who gave me some background intel on dusera who everybody knows about in the trade. In the business. They're a legit firm, but not someone you hire for a normal capital raise. Nothing about the situation's normal. The majority of what they do is restructurings, either in a court of formal bankruptcy or out of court. They do do new money capital raises, but usually it's for companies that are stressed or have a non standard business model. They raised a lot of money for twenty twenty one cryptocurrency minors, which actually turned out well, but it's a reflection of the direction of travel for Live that they didn't hire one of the investment banks that specializes in sports or has a strong practice like Rain, Goldman, Boa and others.
00:42:44
Speaker 2: Feel like there's some synergies though with Mean Gene. With Mean Gene, absolutely feel like Mean Gene would like these guys. But I'd breathe this just to get to this last bit from someone in the finance industry. One of the smartest people we know, said speaking of Bryson and sort of the the accounting and the IBITA of the league versus teams. He adds, I can't tell you one thing between me and Jean and du Sera. Liv is getting their first ever thirteen week cash flow forecast done.
00:43:20
Speaker 3: So that's just welcome to the real world, real cash flow forecast being done after the last four or five years. So some stuff being the screws are being tight. We're gonna talk about Scott here and Scott O'Neill talk today.
00:43:36
Speaker 2: He's in a hard spot. He's in a tough spot, a real tough spot. He's in a tough spot. Go to Scott, Do you want to talk about the truest real quick?
00:43:45
Speaker 3: We can do that. We're doing a lot of live We are.
00:43:48
Speaker 2: Very excited about the truest.
00:43:49
Speaker 3: No, no, should I be.
00:43:52
Speaker 2: I don't really care about it.
00:43:54
Speaker 3: Scott PGA. Next week feels.
00:43:57
Speaker 2: Rory's back playing return to Quail Hollow and that's about it. That's all I got.
00:44:08
Speaker 3: It feels like remarkably similar to the event we just watched. One was in Miami, another's in Charlotte. Has a few more trees, less water. I'm not saying they're the same course, but it's like sub out Scottie, sub in Rory. PGA is what people care about in a week.
00:44:30
Speaker 2: All this is is a framing of are they playing well for the PGA. That's the only like, and somebody's gonna win. Somebody's gonna win a bunch of FedEx cup points and a bunch of money. But the reality of the way any non gambling person would view this event is in the lens of how are they looking for the PGA.
00:44:56
Speaker 3: Accept its signature event. It's supposed to be this big, you know, prime time event, and it's just hard to you know, it's hard to I don't know what the analogy is. It's hard to say, like the quarterfinals of our conference tournament are as important as the second round next week, you know that college basketball.
00:45:17
Speaker 2: And the thing is, if you took the PGA out of May moved it to August, I think this event actually works. I mean you need some because then it's like, oh, like, how are they looking for the US Open? Like we're getting like it's time to start to you know, we got done with the Masters and it's time to start getting getting the engine ready again for the US Open. I I, yeah, you need some some events with pop. Then in that stretch, it's just it's like it feels just very similar last week, and we're supposed to say this is very important and and scarce and like a lot, you know, similar size, you know, low and irons are important. You got to drive it well. Distance is a big, big indicator, always has been do you have one and done?
00:46:06
Speaker 3: Pick in mind.
00:46:08
Speaker 2: I got a guy that I think I think wants to get back in the conversation, back in the mix.
00:46:13
Speaker 3: I think we might go the same way here.
00:46:16
Speaker 2: Unfortunately Pj's not here to be the low down on his own app taking taking the X man.
00:46:24
Speaker 3: I was going to do that, all right, I had X maybe, uh, I don't even know if I've used him. I was going to use X. If I haven't used Ludwig, I'll take him just to differ it, just to divvy it up so we can keep the gambling podcast bit going because we don't want to take.
00:46:41
Speaker 2: Hot. We got three in four weeks.
00:46:43
Speaker 3: I know, if I haven't used Ludvig yet, I'll take him. But if I have, I'm gonna stick with Zander.
00:46:47
Speaker 2: Would you know listeners that have been trailing us are definitely.
00:46:51
Speaker 3: Either get the hell trailing people listening to this segment.
00:46:58
Speaker 2: Trailing us, you'd be you'd be even a positive in a better way than the crushers. The more you know, real way than the crushers are even a positive.
00:47:08
Speaker 3: You could step up and yeah, you'd have a lot more for your Ashley Madison exploits. Yeah, uh, yeah, I'll take uh, I'll take Ludvig then, yeah, it's just it's not doing a lot for me. I should might as well hit our schedule for the week. This is on Golf Channel two to six CBS three to six on Saturday and Sunday, defending champ is Sepstraca. That of course was at Philly Cricket last year. I think twenty million three point six to the winner. Ludwig is a notable can't lay as back from his whatever financial explorations of last week. Matt fitz is back giving it lessons at a golf galaxy. Did you see that, good, young lad?
00:47:51
Speaker 2: I think except golf Galaxy, go in there, there you go. You never know who you're going to run into, right, run.
00:47:57
Speaker 3: Into the best hottest player in the world. Fits Rory Colin, which I'm curious to see, like where we're at with Colin now. Since the players and the masters didn't play well last week, Rosie h second run Xander and JT. We did ah. We had a PGA little PGA assessment this morning with Joseph. JT is a very interesting case, you know, just like not necessarily for all the good, good reasons. But we'll talk about him more coming forward, all right, So those are your notables. Continuing on with our schedule for the week, we have the one Flight Myrtle Beach Classic tended nude. This is great sick Oh Golf Brunch Golf Thursday and Friday with three to five on Saturday and Sunday on Golf Channel. The one Flight Myrtle Beach Classic. The purse is four million, which is just only four hunder grand more than the winner alone gets an in trust. So the Brocks he's there seven twenty grand of the winner defending champs, Ryan Fox notables or Blades, Brown, Rasmus, Hoyguard, Billy Hoe, Tom Kim don't see his name much anymore, Brooks, Koepka, Taylor Moore, Marco Peje and brand Snedeker is notable, so good on Brooks playing out there in Myrtle Beach. The opposite or alternate event, whatever the hell they call that now on the LPGA, we if the Mizuho America is open at Mountain Ridge Country Club, site of a Friday golf event. Here hosted the twenty twenty one Fortnet Founders Cup as well, So it's been on the LPGA before. This is twelve to two Golf Channel on Thursday Friday, five to seven on Golf Channel and CBS finished, So just like last week, they'll do a one to three CBS finish LPGA leading them into the Quail Hollow coverage from Charlotte right after that. So that's a mountain Ridge that's a good stop for the LPGA. And this is the one hosted by uh Michelle Wie and I believe she's playing, Yeah, she's playing Michelle Wee West along with Sleep Bootja hann and Green Brook Henderson, Charlie Hall, Jennifer Cup, show Go, Michelle Wie and Rose Jane who once won this event.
00:50:14
Speaker 2: Tell you know what this is for Michelle Wie. What's that warm up for.
00:50:19
Speaker 3: The riv now WTGL? I yeah, sure, sure, sure, I mean she's also a McLaren so she's she's oh wow, she's using the McLaren stuff on the women's side. Elsewhere, we have the Inspirity Invitational, you know, seven to nine pm on tape tlay Friday Saturday. PJ might be the only person watching that five to seven on Sunday Golf Channel. Where is this hole? Oh, this is the one in Houston. The thought was getting Tiger, isn't it? The Woodlands three millions defended Champs stew couple El's ratief Padrick Bernhard, did you see Potty was at Uh? Patty was at Aronomy today. He's like, it's just basically, I mean, I'm distilling his words. I may be reading too much in but it sounded like he thought it was gonna be like wing foot ironomy. Just send it as high as far as you can, very challenging greens and then like uses you know, high loft to the club as you can from as far up, whether it's rough or not. That that was me reading his report. Uh Lenard Leonard Tom's at the Inspiity Invitational. On the DP World Tour, we have the Estrella dam Catalunya Championship. Notable as Martin, Kuvra Rakua Hoshino, Luke List. Luke List is over there. The great Mateo Manso, Frank Mullinari, Paul Wearing and Burnt Cheeseburger are in that event. That is seven to thirty to ten am Golf Channel from Spain Coffee Golf. We also have the Works Collegiate Championship on Wednesday. Also the NC DOUBLEA Division one selection show Wednesday night on Golf Channel. Watch that good friend Brentley Romind front of the program. He'll be I assume prominently featured Burco the selection show for men's Division one NC DOUAA tournament that starts or that will air Wednesday on Golf Channel Live Golf Live, Golf Live Virginia. That will be of course on Fox and FS one Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. All right, that's our schedule for the week. I don't even want to get into Scott on you. I might save that for Friday.
00:52:40
Speaker 2: Big congrats to occasional shotgun start fill in. But Moller, you know, very great golf personality.
00:52:49
Speaker 3: In his own right.
00:52:50
Speaker 2: Shane Bacon for getting through local qualify he did.
00:52:54
Speaker 3: I wonder I want to know where he where his sectional.
00:52:57
Speaker 2: I hope he goes to the one that's just like with tour pros, even though that's probably the worst place for him.
00:53:03
Speaker 3: To go, probably the met one, Canoe Brook or one of those. I would guess if I had to guess. All right, anything else you want to get to? Should we do? Scott O'Neill, Let me just read his opening one with mother quote. I mean, I cut so much I spent in almost I don't want to tell you how much time I spent reading this transcript, like an hour going back and rereading it, Like did he say that you just like pressure makes diamonds. I don't know if you've heard that one before. That's the position he feels like he's in. Pressure makes diamonds.
00:53:39
Speaker 2: You know what what I say, pressure is something you put in tires.
00:53:45
Speaker 3: All right, So the spokeswoman you know, who talked about live golf has entered a journey of transition, which is just the buzzwords. I started writing down all the buzzwords like right sizing and all these things, journey of transition whatever. So she teas up, Scott, thank you, thank you all for coming. Before we do get started, though, this is Mother's Day, This weekend on Sunday.
00:54:12
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's Tuesday. I'm glad you went there first, five days away. It's not Mother's week, it's Mother's Day. What is he talking about or not. It's not even Saturday.
00:54:27
Speaker 3: It's not even like Friday, like get out of here Tuesday morning, nine am Tuesday.
00:54:32
Speaker 2: It's the beginning part of the week. I mean this was a Tuesday morning.
00:54:38
Speaker 3: I am. This is Mother's Day this.
00:54:43
Speaker 2: Weekend on Sunday, for all, for all those, for all of those of you who are mothers. I want to wish you a happy Mother's Day. This is too a press conference on live. There's like this is all these schlubby male sports writers. Nobody's a mother. I'm sure there's one or two in the crowd. It's not just totally monolithic. Wish you happy as mothers for those of you, For those of you who have a mother, which is everybody, which hopefully is most of us in this room, take a few minutes, send your mom a text. I think he means living, but still, you know, it's a big diverse world out there. Sometimes you have two fathers. Now feels like right, but I guess you would have a mother somewhere. Isn't that how it goes for those of you who you know what amazes me? Yeah, this is like very similar to the Jay Monahan press conferences. I mean they've had a couple of weeks to get ready for this press conference.
00:55:50
Speaker 3: I you know, we're at the fifty five minute mark. It was it was a mess. We have a plan, but I can't show you that plan. There's all that's an interesting question. I don't really know how to answer that one. As soon as they got the questions, he was very mub but there he did this soliloquy with all this just talk about how we're going forward, and I was meant for this moment and pressure makes diamonds and we're right sizing and business that we we have my favorite one, and I just I have to share this part he said. Secondly, he goes, First, it's about the players. We gotta get them take care of. Secondly, we have to create a plan that's a business plan, a business that works from a business standpoint. What a business plan? Quote comma, a business that works from a business standpoint. Well, I hope it wouldn't be a non business standpoint. If it's a business plan that this busineslan doesn't work from a business perspective. I guess what they have now a philosophical standpoint instead, I don't know.
00:56:59
Speaker 2: Well, hey, let's give them a little credit here. I's basically admitting they've been operating a business that doesn't make.
00:57:06
Speaker 3: Sense, yeah, but then also trying to lean on it when it makes like, oh, we've got all these partners and we got all this stuff that we can account for. But like, yeah, and it took you five billion dollars to get that like pizza oven. Essentially, you know, like what I can't you know, if you're your flat broke, you can't just say I've got this beautiful pizza oven in my kitchen, but it took me five million dollars. That's all I have.
00:57:35
Speaker 2: Now we're foreclosing you hold on, can you take the pizza oven first?
00:57:42
Speaker 3: I'd be good shape. I've got that. We've done, We've proven we can have a pizza oven in our kitchen of proven this like this works. Yeah, we have no money.
00:57:57
Speaker 2: For those of you have a mother, which hopefully is most of us in this room, take a few minutes, send your mom a text to pull your phone out. Do you think sent the text.
00:58:06
Speaker 3: He commanded them to do it. Pull your phones out. I would love for you to text your mom something beautiful, something special, something meaningful, some note you learned from her, some lessons she taught you, some impacts she had. Just take thirty seconds now and I will wait. It's more powerful than you could possibly imagine. This league is undergo under siege. We haven't heard from you in two weeks. He's telling the writers to text their mom. He's gonna get back with you in two minutes. That's hey too. It's not Tuesday, it's five days away.
00:58:45
Speaker 2: He's trying to win the room. I kind of like it.
00:58:48
Speaker 3: Any new demosaic it is. He's getting new demos. He's gonna give a bunch of moms on board live.
00:58:56
Speaker 2: Like ten. They might be able to raise race. They could put that in their deck. They're huge with moms.
00:59:04
Speaker 3: I'm going to share I'm her favorite golf league, Cliff. My mom had a really big impact on my life. She taught leadership, development and design all over the world. She worked with Xerox and Texico and ADP. It took her from the US to UK to Africa. She was very influential person in my life. Sounds like a very uh, you know, awesome, you know awesome and highly successful woman. I remember as a young boy her telling me a story which I wanted to share, which I think is a good lead into what we're going to talk about today.
00:59:35
Speaker 2: She talked about these two shoe salesmen again like if I was there, I mean's like just flummixed. She talked about these two shoe salesmen who went to a new market. When they showed up, nobody was wearing shoes. So one of the salesmen immediately sent back a note to his boss and said, Boss, no business here on my way home. The other salesman, this is his press conference, had a very different perspective. He said, Boss, you're not going to believe it. This market's incredible. I think for me, I'm that second shoe salesman right now, quite frankly excited, happy, feeling about a pressure for sure, pressure for sure, but very grateful for this opportunity. The shoe salesman like, do you think his mom told maybe his mom told that story.
01:00:23
Speaker 3: You're not going to believe this market. It's incredible.
01:00:25
Speaker 2: Are you gonna tell your kids that story? No?
01:00:30
Speaker 3: No, probably it's fine. It's a little parable. Sure, it's fine. I think I think it's got some meaning. Yeah, oh no, I'm not saying it's without meeting. It just felt like an odd spot to go at the top. That's all I think.
01:00:43
Speaker 2: You know, when he got nothing, where do you start?
01:00:47
Speaker 3: You know? I thought he was fine. He just had no details to share, and he's admittedly in a very tough spot. I thought he was fine. The mother thing threw me off. For those of you who have a mother, Well, I I did a talk.
01:01:03
Speaker 2: Somewhat recently, and I said, I said to the person organized and the talk, listen, I don't do speeches.
01:01:14
Speaker 3: It's not my thing.
01:01:16
Speaker 2: I'd love to do Q and A. And I thought we were on the same page with the Q and A. And then I was introduced and the person who introduced me, who I thought we were doing the Q and A together, shook my hand and walked away. Uh okay, And I was like, well, I guess it's a speech, but I didn't know.
01:01:46
Speaker 3: With the shoe salesman's stories, you wish you had them, Well.
01:01:49
Speaker 2: I wish. It's a great story.
01:01:51
Speaker 3: But this is the thing.
01:01:52
Speaker 2: He had two weeks to prepare for this, and he opens with a story about shoes. The salesman told people to text their mothers five days before Mother's Day.
01:02:12
Speaker 3: He could have used the line you gave him. What did I say to it? Just when I talk about this, I don't mean to put you on blast, Just when I laughed, laugh about this like dying during that talk you were I mean, this.
01:02:26
Speaker 2: Is indicative of like, I don't know what to say here. I need to get out to throw you the most vapid, meaningless cliche I can, and just went, I still laugh about it to this day.
01:02:41
Speaker 3: Under the tree Agusta. Yeah, yeah, you know, well, you know what they say, Rome wasn't built in the day, Like what you're like out you're trying to be like sympathetic. Meanwhile, the more app comparison was like Rome burned in a day, because that's the way it went. Right after you told them that, I think you're trying to give him a little pat Rome wasn't building the day, Joseph. When you said that, Joseph, I looked at other.
01:03:17
Speaker 2: Honestly, I walked into that conversation was building and I was listening to it, and I just said, I said to myself, I gotta get out of here. As fast as I can. He should have led with that today. Rome wasn't building the day and we've been a good line.
01:03:37
Speaker 3: We got in we're gonna build Rome. It was great.
01:03:45
Speaker 2: All right, that does it?
01:03:47
Speaker 3: News, We'll do a little more, Scott some some of the There weren't a lot of details on Friday, Scott O'Neil news. I just got to throw out there, Scotti Sheffler is going to three M Open.
01:03:59
Speaker 2: I I saw this.
01:04:01
Speaker 3: Why is unclear to me?
01:04:03
Speaker 2: Right after the open?
01:04:06
Speaker 3: Is there like some sort of tie in there? Maybe he's gonna prove that religion and science could coexist. He's gonna do the price and I'm gonna explore the human potential. Goes find out like this is what he's there to prove. Uh, It's very bizarre. There's like he doesn't do things for money. It's not like some under the table appearance fee. What's the connection? Is there like a fellow church member for three M exacting. I don't I'm so confused by why he's doing that into the playoffs. Before the playoffs too, I did notice when they announced it it was Brandon's being a part of the Northern Swing. I'm just we're not doing this. We're not doing the Northern Swing whatever that would be the rocket. I don't know what the Northern Swing would be. PJ, Hello, how are you?
01:04:56
Speaker 2: I didn't think you guys would still be going right now.
01:04:58
Speaker 3: I didn't think we would thing.
01:05:00
Speaker 2: I'm done. I don't I as much as I want to hear about your day at TPC River Highlands. I I'm tired, I'm hungry, and I gotta drive across your god forsaken island tonight. You gotta you gotta hike. You gotta hike. So that's I don't blame you, but it's nice to see you, Scott.
01:05:15
Speaker 3: He's going to three open. Very curious. P J.
01:05:19
Speaker 2: How'd you play? This is what I didn't sign up for?
01:05:24
Speaker 3: Uh?
01:05:25
Speaker 2: I played fine? Did your lesson help you? Gotta free lesson the other day? I did, and I think it did help.
01:05:31
Speaker 3: Good.
01:05:32
Speaker 2: You got more pop? Do you feel like you have more pop in the bat?
01:05:35
Speaker 1: No?
01:05:36
Speaker 3: Still working on off the tea iron contact is better off the team not there yet?
01:05:40
Speaker 2: All right?
01:05:41
Speaker 3: All right, go text your brother.
01:05:44
Speaker 2: We'll talk about your island next episode. Everybody, enjoy your enjoy it's mad about Long Island. Enjoy your Wednesdays. We'll be back with you on Friday. Talk to them.
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Speaker 2: Brendan, I'm doing fantastic. I just got my beek wet with a media day at uh one of, if not the best golf course in the world, Shinnecock one.
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Speaker 3: If not, it sounds like recency biased. No, you've held that in very high regard before.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right at the tippy top it is.
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Speaker 3: It's a good place, good place to play golf. You had, you enjoyed yourself.
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Speaker 2: I was talking to a media member. They're like, how's this not the best? And I said, well, it's like a restaurant, like do you have in the mood for Italian? Or am I in the mood for a burger or steak? You know, you go to different restaurants. So depending on what type of mood you're in. I would I would say that, you know, if if the if the shinnecock mood is your fancy, it could be the best on a given day.
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Speaker 3: It's it's a good day. That's a great day. It's it's just I mean, God, eighteen is like one of the fonnest memories. Just like the weather was perfect, just like a great, great championship. Hoping for that again here in a couple of weeks. I'm glad you enjoyed. Your day looked like a windy one.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the media day of the US opens overshadowing the PGA.
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Speaker 3: Is that a talking point that's happening?
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Speaker 2: I feel like it. Well, I mean it does this every year with this date thing.
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Speaker 3: Is that so many dates?
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Speaker 2: Well, I know, but it seems like the PGA doesn't even like do any like lead US.
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Speaker 3: They stopped doing that. Why, I guess because it's May and there's you know, if you're in Philly, or they just don't want to do it in March or what are they talking.
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Speaker 2: About early April?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I uh, I'm glad. I'm happy for you. It looks good. Be ready to test the best of the world coming there. And about whatever it would be six seven, seven weeks something like that. Was it really slow when I played it in eighteen they had the greens like they hadn't touched them. Obviously, the heather's not heather whatever. The fescue is not super high at that point, right, You're not like getting totally jammed early May. But the greens were slow, and I.
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Speaker 2: Played the grease were rolling enough. It was also blowing like gustin. Probably up to thirty people that saw her shotgun start Instagram got treated to some nice wind audio.
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Speaker 3: You got popped hit in the the the Corey Paven forward. It wasn't for you.
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Speaker 2: You said, they hit the ball so good today. It was like the worst swing I made. I mean to be fair. The U s G. A, you know, they put on a great program. It was nice to have a grateful champion that decided to attend media day.
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Speaker 3: He came up there, JJ Spond came up. Uh.
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Speaker 2: You know, I like to point out I'm sure we'll get to some quotes from uh from two time US Open champion Bryson to shambo a little in a little bit. But they you know, he's not he's no show. The U s G. A to the last two times he's the only two times, is that right? Yeah? One time I think he tried to call call in to the media press conference from his car while he was driving and it dropped. And then I believe last year he might have overslept.
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Speaker 3: Really Yeah, so jack up ceremony at Pinehurst. Remember, like the Monday after the Masters, after he had just gone body backed at last year's Masters. He did go to the plaque ceremony at Pinehurst for that. But Doug, all right, glad JJ was there.
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Speaker 2: That's gonna pop him because they made it seem like we were hitting Corey Paven's actual forward.
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Speaker 3: And there's no way that that is just like they've got that at the ready. Well a bunch of sucks like just PLoP around with that thing like you're a good player, but I'm just not to be, you know, unkind to our colleagues like, yeah, there's probably a lot of just hacks. They would just let every old hacks.
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Speaker 2: They made it. They made it. They were like, you get to hit Corey Paven's vast forwood is what's that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Then we get there and there's still like a stick picker half taken off from playing against sports.
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, it can't be the original, like off the rack sticker, but it's playing against sports.
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Speaker 2: I think it's thirty nine dollars. I mean, what a ripoff for that vast forward thirty or thirty five.
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's good.
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Speaker 2: It honestly looked like somebody tried to take the sticker off and got tired.
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Speaker 3: And I know that feeling. I know.
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Speaker 2: I often like I was like, hey, Amy, I'll go my wife, can you get this?
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Speaker 3: I'm having trouble, don't have the nails. But I'm really just lazy. It's like I kind of done with this shit. That's good.
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Speaker 2: I ended up like fifty yards left of the green with it.
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Speaker 3: Okay, it did look like it. It went hard, hard.
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Speaker 2: Left, start left and kept going.
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Speaker 3: Last year wasn't a good swing, I thought, honestly, the media reenactment challenge should have been the running putt at thirteen. Yes, a bunch of husky media members scamper and scurrying across the green and trying to hit a moving ball.
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Speaker 2: I thought numerous of my playing partners basically reenact Phil at times in the round. I mean, that place is putting anybody blowing names? Yeah, a friend of ours from Golf Digest and have been a colleague of ours at Friday Golf.
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Speaker 3: Okay, oh all right, well there you go. You know, I was just thinking about it, and I don't think anybody wants it this way. What's like Paven's forward for sure memorable? What are the most memorable.
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Speaker 2: Shots at Shinnacock after that the two thousands US Open? I honestly think like ropy putts from from Goosen.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like it's the syringing and it's Phil and like that's that's sort of the shame of what Phil did, and I think he regrets it. Like obviously there were better and more consequential shots, but like the most famous shot from that US Open might be that now, like thirty years from now.
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Speaker 2: Runner up Zach Johnson quick quotes, Yeah, it's kind of you know, we need we need a paving.
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Speaker 3: Forward style shot to come through this.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think Brooks had a lot of like really high quality golf cups, insanely hard golf course coming down the stretch eleven, he was amazing eleven. There were a lot of like clutch potts. Yes, I feel like at the end of the day that golf course is so hard that some of the moments become the guy that just can make consequential ten footers for par because you're bound to have a bunch of them. Yeah, it's so hard. If I mean, I hope one day where it blowed the way it blowed today. It's like the hardest part about the wind out there is putting because all the greens are up high. It's nutty, how hard it. Like, I just got back from the last rounds I played were in Scotland where it's blowing all the time, but like I had more trouble putting there. It was.
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Speaker 3: It was nuts Well, excited about that. We'll have the PGA here next week. I'm excited about Ronomic too, drive up to Philly for that. Check out Ourronomic video on YouTube. Pj's not with us. PJ had his own media day, which curious scheduling the Travelers Championship media day at TPC River Highlands. PJ didn't make the cat. I guess he's in the he's not in the fancy boys at Shinnacock trip. He went to Travelers, which I don't understand why they would do that. It's like a tri state New York based area media day, like same day as Shinnacock to River Highlands. Like, I get that there's probably some New Englanders that come down that don't go to SHUP, but like doesn't seem like ideal planning for the travelers. But PJ was there representing. I guess he was one group behind Boomer Chris Permit, so he's very happy with that he got.
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Speaker 2: Out at US Open Media.
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Speaker 3: W f A n or I think it's WF an the Boomer sizin Boomer Sison without it.
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Speaker 2: I agree with it. I was thinking about it last night. I had I had just a hellish travel day. Just basically every single aspect of the trip got delayed in some form or fashion.
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Speaker 3: Everything the car pick up, like everything.
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Speaker 2: Every single thing like down to like the tram, to the to the rental car. And I'm driving across Long Island at like one in the morning last night or this morning, and I was thinking about how Peaja was waking up and driving the opposite way to Connecticut and then today we're going to be driving. Yeah, but driving on Long Island sucks.
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Speaker 3: Oh It's bad. It's just awful.
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Speaker 2: It's fifty five everywhere you're on these roads. There's cops everywhere.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, cameras. I assume, Oh that's tough. That's tough thing. I'm glad you got through it, you made it, you got better travel day tomorrow. It sounds like, so hey, when need to address something we said there, we said there'd be more ads. There were more ads. We didn't know exactly what ads. We heard about some apologies. I guess one of these was for Ashley Madison, which I was not familiar with, was being a thing and apparently, you know, it's basically a service to facilitate extramarital affairs.
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Speaker 2: So you know, if you hear about that. I listened to the ad. I gave it a spin when I heard heard about it. Yeah, the AD did say that they they are more than what their reputation is to see, you know, I mean, well, they bring Scott O'Neil out to that's his next gig, getting Ashley Madison back in the reputable corners. I don't know, if you hear any, just call it out, Ashley Madison, James Madison, Madison, bufguard any Madison, just text us, let us know, send to SGS email.
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Speaker 3: Well, we've raised the issue. That's not gonna happen, might happen again.
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Speaker 2: I was thinking maybe we should just let it get as ridiculous as it possibly could.
00:12:04
Speaker 3: Well, do you think it was a targeted ad? You know, there's a lot of listeners that are involved in the PGA Tour traveling circus. We've heard about these sort of behind the moat. You know, maybe this is just let's targeted targeting the audience that they're that they're looking for. Who knows. Uh, yeah, well we'll figure it out. We'll get it down. There's not one for table games in New York. What's going on there? Like people listen to a golf podcast can run down of the Greyhound station by a ticket to Times Square, play Roulette. I don't know. Just tend us a note. We'll keep them on that a straight and arrow, or try to trying to get back on the straight and arrow. Is John Rob He's sorted out a deal with the DP World Tour. They've come to reconciliate. Reconciliation. He will pay all fines, he will play the events. The DP World Tour issued a statement. Rob said there were some concessions on both sides. I offered some They extended an olive branch. That will not be a stress anymore. I would say the olive branch had been extended, had been out there. He kept kind of slapping it away or walking by the olive branch. You know, wasn't you know, non existent until today, it had been there. He just was the loan holdout and feels like sort of the facts on the ground, the dynamic of the situation has changed in the last few weeks, and so he's back or a DP World tour eligible.
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Speaker 2: Now, this was the most predictable thing happening with with the Live news. Well, I don't know if it's it's actually news. We haven't gotten all the sources, you know, anfirm, but yeah, when there's there was news that Lived was in trouble, this was so predictable. I'm actually a little disappointed in just a guy Kennings.
00:14:16
Speaker 3: Why, I'll tell you what. I tell you what, Guy Kennings is doing better than his predecessor right now. He's gott Keith Pelly just getting lam baseded by the May Believe Toronto Press. That was one of the most insane press conferences I've ever seen. And he's sitting there in his blue rimmed glasses and this guy's saying you just hired a fraud, a sham, a con artist, and the other guy sitting right there. I need to hear more from our people from the north about like is this reporter and I mean nobody happy with Pelly right now, nobody in the Toronto or the hockey world.
00:15:00
Speaker 2: I bet Pelly wishes he had just stuck to golf. He should have listened to you know, whatever heat whatever Twitter commentator says to golf, golf media, stick to golf.
00:15:12
Speaker 3: So they've got just the guy Kinnings.
00:15:14
Speaker 2: Now, well, just a guy caved.
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Speaker 3: What do you do?
00:15:18
Speaker 2: Rob was coming back no matter what. He caved on the minimum events. Yeah he got the fine money, but he caved one minimum event. He should have he should have vixed. Now it's five. Is that what it was? I think I think that's the cave. He should have just held strong.
00:15:37
Speaker 3: Here Rom's wife is doing October, which God is how many kids that's got? It feels like he's having a kid every like fall.
00:15:48
Speaker 2: We were talking about college education expenses. He doesn't have to worry about that because he got the live money. One day, he could kids as he wants.
00:15:56
Speaker 3: Actually, next day, you know, I never know, you just think he should have held firm.
00:16:03
Speaker 2: I mean the guy was coming back, was he yes? I mean did you see his comments about like his contract.
00:16:12
Speaker 3: Oh he's a sad boy.
00:16:14
Speaker 2: It's basically like, yeah, they did a good job with the contract. I can't get out of it. So if it's playing, if they're playing next year, I'm here.
00:16:23
Speaker 3: I'll tell you. I watched the video. Andy, like the sadness was palpable. He waited like three seconds. I actually timed it. He like stares with his mouth open, like kind of just long forlornly at the ground as he like probably considers how to answer. You could just kind of see the regret like falling out of his face as he waits to say the next few words. Because so so I don't see many ways out. I don't see many ways out as of right now. They have very good lawyers. They probably did a pretty good job when they drafted. I mean, it's like hostage hostage talk.
00:17:05
Speaker 2: You know what this feels like? This is is wild. This ever happens in golf. This is a rare time, But this happens all the time in the real world. Somebody leaves one job that's really good and takes another job that is going to pay them more, But then they get in that job and they're like, oh my god, I'm I'm I'm so miserable here, but I can't get out of this because there might be a non competer whatever.
00:17:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, he also like, I don't know.
00:17:42
Speaker 2: The contract doesn't seem like I'm gonna get to Scott O'Neill in a minute.
00:17:49
Speaker 3: We got a lot to digest on his front. But they asked, like Scott, like, is he committed to paynout player contracts that go beyond this year? He goes, I don't even know how to think about answering that. He goes, But then later he goes, they're under contract. I have them, and you know, are they under contract for next year? He's like, I don't know. That's an interesting question, Like, honestly, these contracts are.
00:18:18
Speaker 2: Who's paying them?
00:18:19
Speaker 3: Like they had like John ram As a contract through what I call it twenty whatever it is, I forget off the top of my head, twenty eight or something. But Scott O'Neill can't answer the question of who's paying that contract, then he might not have a contract. I just feel like that Seinfeld of like you have a reservation, but you're the point of the reservation is to hold the reservation. This contract may have no money attached to it for the next year.
00:18:51
Speaker 2: I saw the thing where there was a quote, and I'm sorry, I don't I didn't have enough time to get all my quotes pulled up. But I was skimming through through it. I was actually skimming through it while listening to Mike wan tak full disclosure. I mean the Scott O'Neill.
00:19:11
Speaker 3: About the next fifty years, what we'll do you for a kids that wouldn't start now. I'm kidding. He's great with the.
00:19:17
Speaker 2: But anyways, he I saw something about like how he needs to separate the compensation from the business or something like about like the compensation No, Scott O'Neill, Oh yeah, it's like we need to separate the compensation for It's like, dude, this is all part of the business. It's all part of the whole thing. When you pay pay someone three hundred million dollars, it's not like the Dodgers don't get to be like, well, you know, we pay Otani all this money, but we we keep that c that's over here, and we don't count that with the business.
00:20:03
Speaker 3: Over here. I mean, I guess there's a chance, like was Rom's entire thing up front and then just play for the play for the next five years. I don't, right, yeah annual co Yeah so yeah, no, that would that would mean that there might not be the money for the rest of the term.
00:20:29
Speaker 2: Breaking news, breaking news. Did you see this just come across your head?
00:20:32
Speaker 3: I did see it.
00:20:35
Speaker 2: As we're talking about Pelly, he gets a stroke of good fortune. This is coming from producer PJ who's texting while driving, not taking the Jordan's speech. Pledge Keith Pelly wins the first pick in the draft.
00:20:51
Speaker 3: Is there a McDavid Prospects style? Is this the Wemby style draft? That we don't have the chops to answer that?
00:20:57
Speaker 2: How about Wemby? Just goaltending away? Last night I went to bed NBA the reps missing on a bunch of goaltends. Really he had twelve blocks. But they the twitter Sluice put together this thing. There's like a couple of them for sure, goaltends.
00:21:14
Speaker 3: God and has I don't know, I don't know. Maybe they have officiating problem.
00:21:20
Speaker 2: It's hard who has a bigger problem, the NBA with their officiating or Scott O'Neill, Scott, O'Neill, Scott, O'Neal. Do you feel bad for Rom? No, No, I don't. This is honestly sad. Honestly I've been I've been hoping this plays out kind of secretly. I think this is the most humorous way for this whole thing to play out, is if, like the contracts so iron clad that he ends up playing there with nobody else.
00:21:59
Speaker 3: I he said, everybody was surprised, unexpected. We did hear the news that they'll be funding through for many years, so unexpected. Bryson to night, saying, they just told us we'd have funding through twenty thirty two. Whoops. Uh. Rom added, only time will tell. Scott and his team have a lot of hard work to do. We will need to be concessions on our part. The business plan has to change whatever they're coming up with. Uh. We want to be here, though. I bet Bryson is that form. No. I mean, unless he was sort of hoodwinked by somebody. But no, guy's done well for himself. He's made I think a career mistake, maybe not a financial one.
00:22:51
Speaker 2: Legacy mistake, maybe not a monetary mistake, a legacy mistake for sure.
00:22:56
Speaker 3: That seems pretty like indisputable at this point, right, come on, that's not like even giving it the most charitable reading. So Bryson, on the other hand, he spoke late. He got done with his obligations at the White House. He's doing a push up contest with Gary Player, you know, in the the front lawn of the White House. Went over to Live Trump derell or Trump Trump National, I should say, Virginia and Mark Schleybaugh of ESPN caught up with Bryson the thick boy or once thick boy.
00:23:27
Speaker 2: God.
00:23:28
Speaker 3: He looked in God, you know, Bryson kind of looks like built on the golf course and then you put it next to like Tjoshi, Noah Cindergard, these like other kind of quite frankly hodgepodge of athletic people. Todd Golden was there for some reason. I don't know why. And he doesn't look that big compared to you know, even t j Oshi. Here's people like that. But he gets out to Virginia. This is Mark Schleibah good good catching up by SCHLEYBADESPN dot com. They asked, what's the deal? Unlike Rob, he's done, He's got a year. So he's he's kind of searching and scanning the room. He's you know, on the the figure it of Ashley Madison of golf. He can go out and see what's out there on his golf career talking about golf. The Ashton figured it not it.
00:24:16
Speaker 2: Could be today Ashley mast might be back.
00:24:18
Speaker 3: To I think we've done more fresh medics in the last twenty five minutes, and they've done for themselves.
00:24:28
Speaker 2: Did you ever vision the day that we we would have an Ashley Madison ad in here?
00:24:34
Speaker 3: No? No, I didn't. No, So I was a little bit of a black box. I didn't know what it was. I kind of knew it wasn't good. I asked missus Pete like, not that he knows what it was, but he did the research because it was on our podcast, because yeah, like you used to have to like prove you were married to sign up for it.
00:24:59
Speaker 2: I I just like I'd scrolled through it to just the ad marker and I was like, oh no.
00:25:14
Speaker 3: Uh, Bryson. I think from my perspective, I'd love to grow my YouTube channel three times, maybe even more. The growth mindset three acts once you have millions something I would love to do a bunch of dubbing in different languages, giving the world more reason to watch YouTube. I mean, you know what, the whole world watches so much freaking YouTube. There's no it doesn't need any more reason. It doesn't need growth. You Bryson dubbing different like, it just doesn't. It's like the last thing that needs everything trying to grow. But it's a big I guess.
00:25:49
Speaker 2: The music thing, this is just a little inside baseball with media. The music thing to be with with Bryson is he just finishing up playing for a golf league that literally just decided they don't want to be in the game of golf and just pulled the rug out from all these people. And you listen to his comments and it's like, oh, you know, I want to give the world more reason to watch YouTube. And we've seen these giant tech companies literally pull the rugout from like entire industries that are built on their platform. They changed the algauthm one day and it's like poof. So it's just like, oh, like I'm just gonna you know, it's just so why you have to build your own thing that's on your own platform that you control the distribution for that that's the the game. It's not you just Yeah, YouTube's super powerful. You can make a lot of money on it. You can you can reach a lot of people on it. But the reality, and you should learn this from Live, is that if you don't control the distribution, you don't like, it can be just gone the next day.
00:27:11
Speaker 3: If you're playing just a bunch of tricks, games and tricks like, you have to have your voice that carries the different play the tricks on that platform, but keep your voice. And if you're just playing to one platform and those tricks, those tricks end up changing. You know, all of a sudden, you got to be able to shoot threes instead of dunk, and all of a sudden, that's you're out of a job or you're out of your audience. I don't know. They want to do debbing in different languages, given the world more reason to watch YouTube, and I'd love to play tournaments that want me. The egos need to get dropped. D Shambeau said when he was asked about punishment from the toy, said, quite unfortunate in my opinion, concidering what I could do for them, But the egos need to get dropped. That's the next quote was the egos need to get dropped. Everybody needs to come in with a love headed playing field. That's not a that's not a that's a mixed metaphor.
00:28:05
Speaker 2: Level headed playing field field is that what Minnesota's basketball stadium is. Where the bench sits at the at the court level over your head, like looking at the court.
00:28:19
Speaker 3: Level headed playing field, not a thing with an opportunistic mindset to grow the game of golf. You know what, as someone who's also been in this business for a while, I remember that phrase meant something because there was like nobody wanted anything to do with golf and it was the most uncool thing and it was dying. The game's growing, The phrase doesn't The game has grown. It's belt. The belt is stretched as far as it's going to go, I got, or it's stretched very far. That phrase doesn't mean anything. It never meant anything to begin with, but it literally it has absolute, totally vapid in twenty six the game's grown, It's grown, It's all grown up. Grow the game of golf. That's why I came over here, and that's why I do what I do on YouTube, he added, echoing Rob I was completely shocked about the piff dropping funding. A couple months before that, It's like, we're here until twenty thirty two. We've got financing of twenty thirty two, and so I told everybody that's what I was told. I think like there's a world in which this happened so fast. Clearly Bryson probably negotiating to figure out a deal to stay, thinking there's funding through twenty thirty two, thinking a lot of that funding might come to him. He's going to do his YouTube. He's never ever going to be in a position of Brooks or these other people or do the read thing. And I think that was like maybe a couple months ago, and now he's like, I don't know now, I just want to grow my YouTube audience and we need a level how to playing field. But yeah, twenty thirty two, I've had a playing field.
00:30:07
Speaker 2: The ego thing is just so peak Bryson, Like, can we rewind the tape a little?
00:30:17
Speaker 3: You want me to repeat that quote?
00:30:19
Speaker 2: No, no, no, just rewind the Bryson tape. So he left accepted a giant offer to go play on Live. I would say that he hasn't been like necessarily friendly with his commentary. He hasn't been.
00:30:38
Speaker 3: Super pagimistic, a little bit maybe.
00:30:41
Speaker 2: Middle of the road.
00:30:42
Speaker 3: Right, he's s popular as ever, look my base.
00:30:48
Speaker 2: But then he's a free agent and they offer him away two pathways back. Meanwhile he is negotiating with Live to get another giant bag of money. Yes, they I think that they extended him an offer that was a giant sum of money. He rejected it and then they fold up.
00:31:19
Speaker 3: Shot.
00:31:19
Speaker 2: But it's like, because all this stuff happens to you, now is the time that everybody has to drop the you know, right now, I lost my negotiating battle with the piff because they decided they were spending any more money. Yeah, and now everybody needs to drop their egoes.
00:31:46
Speaker 3: The offer he had that was zero because it doesn't exist. Look, I mean he's probably gonna I don't know, he he might ditch Live and like, you know what. Look, he left the tour and said, I'm still thinking about it. I don't know what, like what he'd already signed, Like he was like still talking on both sides of his mouth. That probably could happen here. I don't know. He says, I haven't had any community communication with the tour. Unfortunately, things are moving in a different direction. Obviously, Oh, he said with Piff. I haven't had any communication with Piff. Things are moving on in a different direction. Obviously they wanted to move. It sounded like Yaser just picked up his bags and left God like a wife who flees the middle of the night because she caught you on Ashley Madison. Never see her again. If we have a great business model, and they're very interested this in the tour and combining forces, that's the Kumbaya moment, right, do they have a great business model? Did this Bryson?
00:32:56
Speaker 2: In what world is liv gonna have a great business model? Paying Bryson? However, one hundred million dollars you want? Well that those two things don't work together.
00:33:09
Speaker 3: Let them lay it out for you. So it's our job to come up with a better business plan on the company, the live side, the team franchises. There's enough making profit now. Remember at Oakmond, he said, where he beat a he beat a positive that was oak There's enough making profit now to where we can sell them for close to two hundred million dollars. And that's not talking about my team either.
00:33:34
Speaker 2: Hey, can I raise my hand and ask a question here?
00:33:38
Speaker 3: Sure?
00:33:39
Speaker 2: What were the Crushers even a positive. With Bryson's guaranteed payment number.
00:33:47
Speaker 3: Included, one would assume not.
00:33:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, does any other sports league work that way where the contracts for the players aren't shown on the team balance sheet?
00:34:04
Speaker 3: Salary not a part of it.
00:34:07
Speaker 2: So I'm buying I'm buying.
00:34:09
Speaker 3: The team paper.
00:34:11
Speaker 2: Who gets to they're even a positive because they get to split this The team winnings go into the team kitty and the sponsorships going there. But this team, in this current the way we're we're recognizing these finances is we don't recognize the salaries of the team members. Those go to the league. So the league is hemorrhaging money, which like, but the teams are a good investment. What are the crushers put it into the what was it thirty million to put on an event? Yeah? Like before the person is like crushers have nowhere to play. There's like the thing I'm learning though, is the crushers could survive past live and that is worth sir, two hundred million dollars.
00:35:02
Speaker 3: I think it requires a little bit of every just kind of lowering their guards and all coming together and going, Okay, what's best for the game of golf? Like, that's just how it's going to go.
00:35:12
Speaker 2: If I if you had unlimited money, you're the Saudi stuff and well fund, But you're not. You're We'll just say you're you know, you're a billionaire. You get we'll call it forty billion dollars. Money is no object, but you have common sense. What would be a reasonable sum of money that you would pay to buy the Crushers? Understanding the financial issues of the parent league?
00:35:50
Speaker 3: What am I buying as somebody else paying the Bryson contract? Is Bryson not on the Crushers. That's the issue. I think they're Bond, just Bond and Paul Casey? Who am I buying? What am I buying? The logo? The team that exists but can't play anywhere? Like, I don't know what I buy? Well, what would the number be? With your understanding? Now I'm a billionaire, you got forty billion dollars.
00:36:24
Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about anything, like.
00:36:26
Speaker 3: I don't know, like five million dollars, it's probably nothing to a forty billion, but it still seems insane. What am I buying ten million? I know, what would you spend? I don't know.
00:36:42
Speaker 2: I honestly if all the players are tied to the league. There's no value in the team franchises.
00:36:52
Speaker 3: Well, this is Scott O'Neil. I don't think we're moving Scott to Friday at this point.
00:36:56
Speaker 2: But well, everyone has a mother.
00:36:59
Speaker 3: We'll get to that. Scott says, like, all are the values and the teams, the values of the team. Oh, we're going to get to mother. We're gonna get to Scott's mother and mothers in general. What lasts about it for five minutes the ship, Well that's because he doesn't have anything to talk about. He doesn't have a plan to share, because I wish it was like two weeks later, I'd have my plan. I did a control f on Scott's transcript. He said the word business fifty times, fifty times business. This business that work, the business make the business we hate. We met him under the tree for a minute at Augusta. The boys met him. You and I stumbled in a little late, and Lemania did say, like he uses the word business a lot based on his chat there chat with him. So I did the control a f. It was fifty times. Ah, but that's his job. He's the business guy. Uh Bryson sort of the faux business guy. Okay, what's best for the game of golf. There's a few different models. Look, I mean, this isn't really going to grease the wheels. Back to the tour, he goes, Look, the tour isn't doing great either. Do you want to start lobbing grenades right now? Let's be honest about the situation. They've got the media, the corrupt golf media, I think, is what he's referring to. They've got everybody on that side that helps pump it up. Yeah, man, that's why they won. They had TV contracts in sixty years of history. That was like part of the deal. They've got everybody on that side that helps pump it up. But they're reducing field sizes, cutting employees and restructuring their business too, doing great either. So he's lobbing his grenade. That's Bryson via Mark schlebah good reporting on the ground, a little different tone fell, a little less sort of. But he's a free agent. We'll get to Scott O'Neill maybe here in a minute about the mothers, but first first, we got a word from our friends at B Dratty, not Ashton Madison, B Dratty.
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00:41:28
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00:41:35
Speaker 3: Are you're setting it up? All right? Some more live chatter. I did they they did bring on Do Sarah Partners. So they've got Zenman and Davis, Zinman and Davis. They've got Do Sarah Partners, which is uh it's a finance firm UH investment banking advisor to guide the league in its efforts to secure lawng term investment. I spoke to someone in the trade, let's just talk put it that way, who gave me some background intel on dusera who everybody knows about in the trade. In the business. They're a legit firm, but not someone you hire for a normal capital raise. Nothing about the situation's normal. The majority of what they do is restructurings, either in a court of formal bankruptcy or out of court. They do do new money capital raises, but usually it's for companies that are stressed or have a non standard business model. They raised a lot of money for twenty twenty one cryptocurrency minors, which actually turned out well, but it's a reflection of the direction of travel for Live that they didn't hire one of the investment banks that specializes in sports or has a strong practice like Rain, Goldman, Boa and others.
00:42:44
Speaker 2: Feel like there's some synergies though with Mean Gene. With Mean Gene, absolutely feel like Mean Gene would like these guys. But I'd breathe this just to get to this last bit from someone in the finance industry. One of the smartest people we know, said speaking of Bryson and sort of the the accounting and the IBITA of the league versus teams. He adds, I can't tell you one thing between me and Jean and du Sera. Liv is getting their first ever thirteen week cash flow forecast done.
00:43:20
Speaker 3: So that's just welcome to the real world, real cash flow forecast being done after the last four or five years. So some stuff being the screws are being tight. We're gonna talk about Scott here and Scott O'Neill talk today.
00:43:36
Speaker 2: He's in a hard spot. He's in a tough spot, a real tough spot. He's in a tough spot. Go to Scott, Do you want to talk about the truest real quick?
00:43:45
Speaker 3: We can do that. We're doing a lot of live We are.
00:43:48
Speaker 2: Very excited about the truest.
00:43:49
Speaker 3: No, no, should I be.
00:43:52
Speaker 2: I don't really care about it.
00:43:54
Speaker 3: Scott PGA. Next week feels.
00:43:57
Speaker 2: Rory's back playing return to Quail Hollow and that's about it. That's all I got.
00:44:08
Speaker 3: It feels like remarkably similar to the event we just watched. One was in Miami, another's in Charlotte. Has a few more trees, less water. I'm not saying they're the same course, but it's like sub out Scottie, sub in Rory. PGA is what people care about in a week.
00:44:30
Speaker 2: All this is is a framing of are they playing well for the PGA. That's the only like, and somebody's gonna win. Somebody's gonna win a bunch of FedEx cup points and a bunch of money. But the reality of the way any non gambling person would view this event is in the lens of how are they looking for the PGA.
00:44:56
Speaker 3: Accept its signature event. It's supposed to be this big, you know, prime time event, and it's just hard to you know, it's hard to I don't know what the analogy is. It's hard to say, like the quarterfinals of our conference tournament are as important as the second round next week, you know that college basketball.
00:45:17
Speaker 2: And the thing is, if you took the PGA out of May moved it to August, I think this event actually works. I mean you need some because then it's like, oh, like, how are they looking for the US Open? Like we're getting like it's time to start to you know, we got done with the Masters and it's time to start getting getting the engine ready again for the US Open. I I, yeah, you need some some events with pop. Then in that stretch, it's just it's like it feels just very similar last week, and we're supposed to say this is very important and and scarce and like a lot, you know, similar size, you know, low and irons are important. You got to drive it well. Distance is a big, big indicator, always has been do you have one and done?
00:46:06
Speaker 3: Pick in mind.
00:46:08
Speaker 2: I got a guy that I think I think wants to get back in the conversation, back in the mix.
00:46:13
Speaker 3: I think we might go the same way here.
00:46:16
Speaker 2: Unfortunately Pj's not here to be the low down on his own app taking taking the X man.
00:46:24
Speaker 3: I was going to do that, all right, I had X maybe, uh, I don't even know if I've used him. I was going to use X. If I haven't used Ludwig, I'll take him just to differ it, just to divvy it up so we can keep the gambling podcast bit going because we don't want to take.
00:46:41
Speaker 2: Hot. We got three in four weeks.
00:46:43
Speaker 3: I know, if I haven't used Ludvig yet, I'll take him. But if I have, I'm gonna stick with Zander.
00:46:47
Speaker 2: Would you know listeners that have been trailing us are definitely.
00:46:51
Speaker 3: Either get the hell trailing people listening to this segment.
00:46:58
Speaker 2: Trailing us, you'd be you'd be even a positive in a better way than the crushers. The more you know, real way than the crushers are even a positive.
00:47:08
Speaker 3: You could step up and yeah, you'd have a lot more for your Ashley Madison exploits. Yeah, uh, yeah, I'll take uh, I'll take Ludvig then, yeah, it's just it's not doing a lot for me. I should might as well hit our schedule for the week. This is on Golf Channel two to six CBS three to six on Saturday and Sunday, defending champ is Sepstraca. That of course was at Philly Cricket last year. I think twenty million three point six to the winner. Ludwig is a notable can't lay as back from his whatever financial explorations of last week. Matt fitz is back giving it lessons at a golf galaxy. Did you see that, good, young lad?
00:47:51
Speaker 2: I think except golf Galaxy, go in there, there you go. You never know who you're going to run into, right, run.
00:47:57
Speaker 3: Into the best hottest player in the world. Fits Rory Colin, which I'm curious to see, like where we're at with Colin now. Since the players and the masters didn't play well last week, Rosie h second run Xander and JT. We did ah. We had a PGA little PGA assessment this morning with Joseph. JT is a very interesting case, you know, just like not necessarily for all the good, good reasons. But we'll talk about him more coming forward, all right, So those are your notables. Continuing on with our schedule for the week, we have the one Flight Myrtle Beach Classic tended nude. This is great sick Oh Golf Brunch Golf Thursday and Friday with three to five on Saturday and Sunday on Golf Channel. The one Flight Myrtle Beach Classic. The purse is four million, which is just only four hunder grand more than the winner alone gets an in trust. So the Brocks he's there seven twenty grand of the winner defending champs, Ryan Fox notables or Blades, Brown, Rasmus, Hoyguard, Billy Hoe, Tom Kim don't see his name much anymore, Brooks, Koepka, Taylor Moore, Marco Peje and brand Snedeker is notable, so good on Brooks playing out there in Myrtle Beach. The opposite or alternate event, whatever the hell they call that now on the LPGA, we if the Mizuho America is open at Mountain Ridge Country Club, site of a Friday golf event. Here hosted the twenty twenty one Fortnet Founders Cup as well, So it's been on the LPGA before. This is twelve to two Golf Channel on Thursday Friday, five to seven on Golf Channel and CBS finished, So just like last week, they'll do a one to three CBS finish LPGA leading them into the Quail Hollow coverage from Charlotte right after that. So that's a mountain Ridge that's a good stop for the LPGA. And this is the one hosted by uh Michelle Wie and I believe she's playing, Yeah, she's playing Michelle Wee West along with Sleep Bootja hann and Green Brook Henderson, Charlie Hall, Jennifer Cup, show Go, Michelle Wie and Rose Jane who once won this event.
00:50:14
Speaker 2: Tell you know what this is for Michelle Wie. What's that warm up for.
00:50:19
Speaker 3: The riv now WTGL? I yeah, sure, sure, sure, I mean she's also a McLaren so she's she's oh wow, she's using the McLaren stuff on the women's side. Elsewhere, we have the Inspirity Invitational, you know, seven to nine pm on tape tlay Friday Saturday. PJ might be the only person watching that five to seven on Sunday Golf Channel. Where is this hole? Oh, this is the one in Houston. The thought was getting Tiger, isn't it? The Woodlands three millions defended Champs stew couple El's ratief Padrick Bernhard, did you see Potty was at Uh? Patty was at Aronomy today. He's like, it's just basically, I mean, I'm distilling his words. I may be reading too much in but it sounded like he thought it was gonna be like wing foot ironomy. Just send it as high as far as you can, very challenging greens and then like uses you know, high loft to the club as you can from as far up, whether it's rough or not. That that was me reading his report. Uh Lenard Leonard Tom's at the Inspiity Invitational. On the DP World Tour, we have the Estrella dam Catalunya Championship. Notable as Martin, Kuvra Rakua Hoshino, Luke List. Luke List is over there. The great Mateo Manso, Frank Mullinari, Paul Wearing and Burnt Cheeseburger are in that event. That is seven to thirty to ten am Golf Channel from Spain Coffee Golf. We also have the Works Collegiate Championship on Wednesday. Also the NC DOUBLEA Division one selection show Wednesday night on Golf Channel. Watch that good friend Brentley Romind front of the program. He'll be I assume prominently featured Burco the selection show for men's Division one NC DOUAA tournament that starts or that will air Wednesday on Golf Channel Live Golf Live, Golf Live Virginia. That will be of course on Fox and FS one Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. All right, that's our schedule for the week. I don't even want to get into Scott on you. I might save that for Friday.
00:52:40
Speaker 2: Big congrats to occasional shotgun start fill in. But Moller, you know, very great golf personality.
00:52:49
Speaker 3: In his own right.
00:52:50
Speaker 2: Shane Bacon for getting through local qualify he did.
00:52:54
Speaker 3: I wonder I want to know where he where his sectional.
00:52:57
Speaker 2: I hope he goes to the one that's just like with tour pros, even though that's probably the worst place for him.
00:53:03
Speaker 3: To go, probably the met one, Canoe Brook or one of those. I would guess if I had to guess. All right, anything else you want to get to? Should we do? Scott O'Neill, Let me just read his opening one with mother quote. I mean, I cut so much I spent in almost I don't want to tell you how much time I spent reading this transcript, like an hour going back and rereading it, Like did he say that you just like pressure makes diamonds. I don't know if you've heard that one before. That's the position he feels like he's in. Pressure makes diamonds.
00:53:39
Speaker 2: You know what what I say, pressure is something you put in tires.
00:53:45
Speaker 3: All right, So the spokeswoman you know, who talked about live golf has entered a journey of transition, which is just the buzzwords. I started writing down all the buzzwords like right sizing and all these things, journey of transition whatever. So she teas up, Scott, thank you, thank you all for coming. Before we do get started, though, this is Mother's Day, This weekend on Sunday.
00:54:12
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's Tuesday. I'm glad you went there first, five days away. It's not Mother's week, it's Mother's Day. What is he talking about or not. It's not even Saturday.
00:54:27
Speaker 3: It's not even like Friday, like get out of here Tuesday morning, nine am Tuesday.
00:54:32
Speaker 2: It's the beginning part of the week. I mean this was a Tuesday morning.
00:54:38
Speaker 3: I am. This is Mother's Day this.
00:54:43
Speaker 2: Weekend on Sunday, for all, for all those, for all of those of you who are mothers. I want to wish you a happy Mother's Day. This is too a press conference on live. There's like this is all these schlubby male sports writers. Nobody's a mother. I'm sure there's one or two in the crowd. It's not just totally monolithic. Wish you happy as mothers for those of you, For those of you who have a mother, which is everybody, which hopefully is most of us in this room, take a few minutes, send your mom a text. I think he means living, but still, you know, it's a big diverse world out there. Sometimes you have two fathers. Now feels like right, but I guess you would have a mother somewhere. Isn't that how it goes for those of you who you know what amazes me? Yeah, this is like very similar to the Jay Monahan press conferences. I mean they've had a couple of weeks to get ready for this press conference.
00:55:50
Speaker 3: I you know, we're at the fifty five minute mark. It was it was a mess. We have a plan, but I can't show you that plan. There's all that's an interesting question. I don't really know how to answer that one. As soon as they got the questions, he was very mub but there he did this soliloquy with all this just talk about how we're going forward, and I was meant for this moment and pressure makes diamonds and we're right sizing and business that we we have my favorite one, and I just I have to share this part he said. Secondly, he goes, First, it's about the players. We gotta get them take care of. Secondly, we have to create a plan that's a business plan, a business that works from a business standpoint. What a business plan? Quote comma, a business that works from a business standpoint. Well, I hope it wouldn't be a non business standpoint. If it's a business plan that this busineslan doesn't work from a business perspective. I guess what they have now a philosophical standpoint instead, I don't know.
00:56:59
Speaker 2: Well, hey, let's give them a little credit here. I's basically admitting they've been operating a business that doesn't make.
00:57:06
Speaker 3: Sense, yeah, but then also trying to lean on it when it makes like, oh, we've got all these partners and we got all this stuff that we can account for. But like, yeah, and it took you five billion dollars to get that like pizza oven. Essentially, you know, like what I can't you know, if you're your flat broke, you can't just say I've got this beautiful pizza oven in my kitchen, but it took me five million dollars. That's all I have.
00:57:35
Speaker 2: Now we're foreclosing you hold on, can you take the pizza oven first?
00:57:42
Speaker 3: I'd be good shape. I've got that. We've done, We've proven we can have a pizza oven in our kitchen of proven this like this works. Yeah, we have no money.
00:57:57
Speaker 2: For those of you have a mother, which hopefully is most of us in this room, take a few minutes, send your mom a text to pull your phone out. Do you think sent the text.
00:58:06
Speaker 3: He commanded them to do it. Pull your phones out. I would love for you to text your mom something beautiful, something special, something meaningful, some note you learned from her, some lessons she taught you, some impacts she had. Just take thirty seconds now and I will wait. It's more powerful than you could possibly imagine. This league is undergo under siege. We haven't heard from you in two weeks. He's telling the writers to text their mom. He's gonna get back with you in two minutes. That's hey too. It's not Tuesday, it's five days away.
00:58:45
Speaker 2: He's trying to win the room. I kind of like it.
00:58:48
Speaker 3: Any new demosaic it is. He's getting new demos. He's gonna give a bunch of moms on board live.
00:58:56
Speaker 2: Like ten. They might be able to raise race. They could put that in their deck. They're huge with moms.
00:59:04
Speaker 3: I'm going to share I'm her favorite golf league, Cliff. My mom had a really big impact on my life. She taught leadership, development and design all over the world. She worked with Xerox and Texico and ADP. It took her from the US to UK to Africa. She was very influential person in my life. Sounds like a very uh, you know, awesome, you know awesome and highly successful woman. I remember as a young boy her telling me a story which I wanted to share, which I think is a good lead into what we're going to talk about today.
00:59:35
Speaker 2: She talked about these two shoe salesmen again like if I was there, I mean's like just flummixed. She talked about these two shoe salesmen who went to a new market. When they showed up, nobody was wearing shoes. So one of the salesmen immediately sent back a note to his boss and said, Boss, no business here on my way home. The other salesman, this is his press conference, had a very different perspective. He said, Boss, you're not going to believe it. This market's incredible. I think for me, I'm that second shoe salesman right now, quite frankly excited, happy, feeling about a pressure for sure, pressure for sure, but very grateful for this opportunity. The shoe salesman like, do you think his mom told maybe his mom told that story.
01:00:23
Speaker 3: You're not going to believe this market. It's incredible.
01:00:25
Speaker 2: Are you gonna tell your kids that story? No?
01:00:30
Speaker 3: No, probably it's fine. It's a little parable. Sure, it's fine. I think I think it's got some meaning. Yeah, oh no, I'm not saying it's without meeting. It just felt like an odd spot to go at the top. That's all I think.
01:00:43
Speaker 2: You know, when he got nothing, where do you start?
01:00:47
Speaker 3: You know? I thought he was fine. He just had no details to share, and he's admittedly in a very tough spot. I thought he was fine. The mother thing threw me off. For those of you who have a mother, Well, I I did a talk.
01:01:03
Speaker 2: Somewhat recently, and I said, I said to the person organized and the talk, listen, I don't do speeches.
01:01:14
Speaker 3: It's not my thing.
01:01:16
Speaker 2: I'd love to do Q and A. And I thought we were on the same page with the Q and A. And then I was introduced and the person who introduced me, who I thought we were doing the Q and A together, shook my hand and walked away. Uh okay, And I was like, well, I guess it's a speech, but I didn't know.
01:01:46
Speaker 3: With the shoe salesman's stories, you wish you had them, Well.
01:01:49
Speaker 2: I wish. It's a great story.
01:01:51
Speaker 3: But this is the thing.
01:01:52
Speaker 2: He had two weeks to prepare for this, and he opens with a story about shoes. The salesman told people to text their mothers five days before Mother's Day.
01:02:12
Speaker 3: He could have used the line you gave him. What did I say to it? Just when I talk about this, I don't mean to put you on blast, Just when I laughed, laugh about this like dying during that talk you were I mean, this.
01:02:26
Speaker 2: Is indicative of like, I don't know what to say here. I need to get out to throw you the most vapid, meaningless cliche I can, and just went, I still laugh about it to this day.
01:02:41
Speaker 3: Under the tree Agusta. Yeah, yeah, you know, well, you know what they say, Rome wasn't built in the day, Like what you're like out you're trying to be like sympathetic. Meanwhile, the more app comparison was like Rome burned in a day, because that's the way it went. Right after you told them that, I think you're trying to give him a little pat Rome wasn't building the day, Joseph. When you said that, Joseph, I looked at other.
01:03:17
Speaker 2: Honestly, I walked into that conversation was building and I was listening to it, and I just said, I said to myself, I gotta get out of here. As fast as I can. He should have led with that today. Rome wasn't building the day and we've been a good line.
01:03:37
Speaker 3: We got in we're gonna build Rome. It was great.
01:03:45
Speaker 2: All right, that does it?
01:03:47
Speaker 3: News, We'll do a little more, Scott some some of the There weren't a lot of details on Friday, Scott O'Neil news. I just got to throw out there, Scotti Sheffler is going to three M Open.
01:03:59
Speaker 2: I I saw this.
01:04:01
Speaker 3: Why is unclear to me?
01:04:03
Speaker 2: Right after the open?
01:04:06
Speaker 3: Is there like some sort of tie in there? Maybe he's gonna prove that religion and science could coexist. He's gonna do the price and I'm gonna explore the human potential. Goes find out like this is what he's there to prove. Uh, It's very bizarre. There's like he doesn't do things for money. It's not like some under the table appearance fee. What's the connection? Is there like a fellow church member for three M exacting. I don't I'm so confused by why he's doing that into the playoffs. Before the playoffs too, I did notice when they announced it it was Brandon's being a part of the Northern Swing. I'm just we're not doing this. We're not doing the Northern Swing whatever that would be the rocket. I don't know what the Northern Swing would be. PJ, Hello, how are you?
01:04:56
Speaker 2: I didn't think you guys would still be going right now.
01:04:58
Speaker 3: I didn't think we would thing.
01:05:00
Speaker 2: I'm done. I don't I as much as I want to hear about your day at TPC River Highlands. I I'm tired, I'm hungry, and I gotta drive across your god forsaken island tonight. You gotta you gotta hike. You gotta hike. So that's I don't blame you, but it's nice to see you, Scott.
01:05:15
Speaker 3: He's going to three open. Very curious. P J.
01:05:19
Speaker 2: How'd you play? This is what I didn't sign up for?
01:05:24
Speaker 3: Uh?
01:05:25
Speaker 2: I played fine? Did your lesson help you? Gotta free lesson the other day? I did, and I think it did help.
01:05:31
Speaker 3: Good.
01:05:32
Speaker 2: You got more pop? Do you feel like you have more pop in the bat?
01:05:35
Speaker 1: No?
01:05:36
Speaker 3: Still working on off the tea iron contact is better off the team not there yet?
01:05:40
Speaker 2: All right?
01:05:41
Speaker 3: All right, go text your brother.
01:05:44
Speaker 2: We'll talk about your island next episode. Everybody, enjoy your enjoy it's mad about Long Island. Enjoy your Wednesdays. We'll be back with you on Friday. Talk to them.
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