Maximum Harm: The Tsarnaev Brothers, the FBI, and the Road to the Marathon Bombing

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a second attempt at this show. We got Michelle McPhee,
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who was an investigative reporter up there from the Boston area,
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a New England area. She's written this book, Maximum Harm,
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the Sarnoff Brothers, the FBI, and the Road to the
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Marathon Bombing. We had her on on Saturday, but the
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audio was just so terrible and the information was so
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important that I asked her to reschedule, and she was
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kind enough to give us some more time. Michelle, are
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you there.
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I am here.
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I'm excited to get see where. I apologize for all
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of the confusion on Saturday.
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It was.
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Yeah, breaking news happens.
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I know.
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Remember the old days when you had a phone with
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a wire on it into the wall, you know what everybody?
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And I remember the days of a beeper where I
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used to have to you know, I was in a
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prime reporter in New York and I used to run
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to a k phone.
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Well then, okay, you might right over. I used to
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own a company called Front Page Beepers in the Staten
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Island Mall. We had about the fifteen thousand beeper accounts
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in the New York area.
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So well, I'm sure I was one of the ROL subscribers.
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Trusty back in the.
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Day, it could have been Michelle remind the audience, I
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tell who is Michelle McFee.
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Well, I'm a longtime investigate reporter. I've worked here in
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Boston at the Boston World, the Boston Herald. I was
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the police dealership of the New York the only news
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so I worked run out of one police Plaza. Right
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now I work at Bryan Ross and the Investigative United
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the ABC News. So I've been chasing around this kind
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of stuff, you know, terrorism, murder. They have the mob
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for a long time.
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Got you okay, so you've ben you've been working with
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the cops for a long time. I don't want to
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police plaza. Very very good. Now we're talking about your book,
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Maximum Harm, the staring off brothers, the FBI, and the
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road to the marathon bonding. And we started off with
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this uncle, the uncle Russelyn. Tell us about Ruselyn.
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So uncle Ruslan, who has been living in the United States,
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and some people may recall he had a press conference
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shortly when Joe cars and I was still on the
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run Samlin's and I was dead. And we have this
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uncle who came out and very famously declared that his
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nephews were losers in lowlife, and we all of course
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loved him because they were losers in low life. But
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then you take a harder look at Ruslan Sarni and
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you see that he had very close associations with the
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CIA via his one time father in law, Ram.
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Fuller, right, and as we.
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Said, was a high ranking CIA official. They start looking
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at how the family got into the country. You see
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that Ram Fuller was the station chief and ancle a
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Turkey in two thousand and two, which strangely is exactly
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where the family receives political asylum from Turkey. Ruthlan Sarmy's
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wife just happened to be Graham Fuller's daughter, whose name
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was Samantha Ankara Fuller.
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And I believe they will live in the same home
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for it for a period of time.
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Yes they did. They all lived in Maryland.
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Yeah, okay, So then now is how much is that
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reported in the mainstream media, the public narrative of the
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Boston bombing? How much is a is that reported?
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Almost? Yeah?
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You never hear that, right, It's very strange you and
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you're not hearing any of this. I mean, look at
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I mean, you know, I create in my book, I
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create a roadmap, and it's less the reader decides right.
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But to me, I'm better an investigative reporter long enough
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to know that when there's this many coincidences, you have
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to sort of wonder, right, thank you?
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Now, I know, I think guy stuck out like a
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sore thumb. I was watching him on the news conference,
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and right away I went to his LinkedIn page and
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I said, this guy is you know what you know.
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What I mean.
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You're not allowed to actually out people for being that,
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but you know this guy was right up there with
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graham Fully and graham Fully. You got to remember too,
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this is the guy who was the founder the blueprint
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of Iran Contra supposedly, I think was reported by the
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New York Times back around the time. Now he came
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to the United States first, and then do we know
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for a fact that he brought over the Now what
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was it? How was he related to the to the
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brothers through the father or the mother?
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Well, I think, I mean, look at you. You have
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Grand Peller, who's the station chief in Ancera, Turkey, and
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inexplicably you have a group of family from the northern
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concuses of Russia that decides the end of the United
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States be the Ocora Turkey got you, and they had
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a very easy time obtaining Jesus and then coming here
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and immediately declaring political accounce. Within weeks of their arrival
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in the United States, they were set up with an
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apartment paid for it by the tax players, and ironically
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the apartment was owned by a former KGB defector named
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Alexander Lipsen.
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Wow.
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Alexander Lipson enjoyed a very close relationship with Brahm Fuller,
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the CIA official. That's CIA officer, because he taught him
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how to seek Russia at Harvard Russian at Harvard University.
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Wow.
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See this is all good new stuff. Now what about Russlyn?
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How is he related to the brothers through the through
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the mother or the father the father?
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So Rufan is the brother of andre jnav who is
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the father of the two Lola farmers.
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Right now, what about the mother and father? What was
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their occupation?
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The mother and father, No one had an occupation, No
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one had ever worked, So the entire family was on
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public assistance from the time they arrived. In fact, campons
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and I had when he was killed in the water
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Town Tudo, his death certificate state never worked.
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Okay, now do you know anything about that. There was
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another murder up there in Boston. I had another guest
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on the show one time named Casey Gaine mcgallan. He
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wrote this book about the CIA secret war in Jamaica,
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and he happened to live up there in Boston, and
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he knew these two marijuana dealers that were murdered up there,
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that had a kid.
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You know about that, three marijuana dealers. So the three
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men were murdered. You can find this in Maximum m
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maximuonma A bailable everywhere, of course, but in MAXIMUMAR we
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detailed this triple murder that took place in Waltham, Massachusetts
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on the ten year anniversary of nine to eleven. I
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covered the murder at the time. Obviously then we had
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no idea it was connected to Camlin and I have.
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But you have three young men. It's nine to eleven,
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the ten year anniversary. They were nearly decapitated. The two
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Jewish victims was actually mutilated. A Cox described to me
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at the time as a scene out of an Arqaeda
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training video. Their bodies were sprinkled with drugs, the money
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was up behind. It was completely inexplicable and to this
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day unsolved. Triple murder. The last place that the victims
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called was a local restaurant called Jerry's Italian Kitchen. As
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it turns out, many people described Camerlins and i am
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as being a delivery driver for driver for Jerry's Italian Kitchen.
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Under the table.
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Okay, so electing well there and working under the table.
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So he should have and his hoose relationship with these
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men who all had tied to mixed martial arts as
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a Camlin should have raised some suspicions. The fact that
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Camlin didn't show up at the memorial service first Boose
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friends who died that day all post suspicion, but somehow
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Camlin escaped any real uh suspicion in those murders, even
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though his name had been mentioned to investigated at the time.
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Oh really okay, okay, And did you ever a little
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later on when you made the connection between us at
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this time?
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This was in between the time that the Russian FSP
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had warned both the Boston s CI and the CIA
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two separate letters brent by the Russians much aligned the
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Russian fs BRIGHT, which is obviously the former KDB putin
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dB kgbll FSP. Since American counter terrorism officials versus the
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FBI and then the CIA two separate letters detailing intercepted
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messages between cam Onin and some very dangerous people in Russia.
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These letters warned that they believe Camlon that I was
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going to travel to Russia and join the d HYDE.
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And so we have the timeline March twenty eleven. The
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first letter goes to the FBI. September twenty eleven, the
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CIA get the letter book Tamblons and I have and
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that just happens to be the exact same month that
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this triple murder takes place.
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Can I get Now, you've been a crime reporter for
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a long time now if you have, if you're a
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local PD, you're investigating a murder, and you have that
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kind of leverage over a guy. Because the CI is
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receiving an FBI's receiving letters that the guy has some
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kind of terrorism connection, you would logically, in a normal investigation,
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they would be putting a lot of pressure on this guy.
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Correct, well, you would think so, but I'm not entirely
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positive that, in fact, fairly certain they didn't. It's unlikely
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that those warnings were shared with local arm books, and
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in fact, Boston police Spenser ed Davis testified in front
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of Congress that they had never received any information, not
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even his officers on the joint Stars and Task Forks
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was supposed to be federal partners, didn't receive any information
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about Camerlin in the warnings that had been given to
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us by the Russians.
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Wow, okay, But now Tammelin and the brother they weren't
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interviewed by the FBI. Correct, Yes, they were.
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Interviewed by the FBI, which raised the first question that
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I had when I started writing Maxim Mom. I know
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I've been a reporter for a long time. I interviewed you,
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and a year and a half later, your space emerges
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as a suspect in the Boston marathon attacks. I think
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i'd probably remember you, Michelle.
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I have said that exact same phrase one hundred times
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talking about the boss at Bombing. It's so true. And
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I even made the joke I said we should issue
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them pencils so they could take notes when the interviews somebody.
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You would recognize their face if their faces were shown
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on TV. Was there of an explanation made about that?
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No?
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And then as of question, now, I know facial recognition
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is very faulty and you know in technology, but the
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Samelin have been arrested. So you know, you wonder why
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those pictures of suspect black hat and suspects white hat,
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it weren't put through facial recognition and what it came
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up with the two thousand and nine month shofs of
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Hamlin because you have interested in a domestic balance attack.
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Yeah, or even the cop who arrested him then might
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have recognized them, because I've had situations like that. As
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a matter of fact, my partner, my business partner, used
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to be Nypa Hart Aviation And as matter of fact,
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you were talking about nine eleven the last time he
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was in that helicopter you see in the videos those
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iconic shots of the world traits and are burning on fire.
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He was in that helicopter. And one time we were
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down at the hard Rock Hotel here having drinks and
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who shows up next to us the runaway bride Jennifer
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Wilbanks remember that story. Oh wow, of course and he
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recognizes there he goes this one right bride, Okay, because
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they have that kind of training, you know what I mean,
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so to recognize faces. But the compoo arrested him and
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the domestic violence didn't recognize him, and the FBI agents
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who interviewed him for terrorism didn't recognize him. Correct, what
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do you make of that?
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I mean, who knows what I do? What I can
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prove and what's proven in my book, Maxim mom right,
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is that you know Camblons and I have never had
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a job. The Russians told us he's going to come
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to Russia and join the gi Wow, despite the fact
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that he was on two separate terror watch lists in
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January twenty twelve months after this morning he leaves town
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and where does it go?
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Russia?
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Now when it becomes even strangers. While he's in Russia,
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he's wired tapping one of his relatives who just happened
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to be a jihadi sympathizer who was the leader of
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a group called Union of the Just. When Sandlin left
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Russia six months later, his cousin, the one who has
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been wiretapping, was arrested by Russians. The Russians also while
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he was there, another one of his buddies, William Flatmangov,
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the man whose text messages had prompted the first warning
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from the FBI, was tracking killed along with six of
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the high level militants everywhere that Samblin went in Russia,
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dead bodies followed.
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Okay, and now what do you make of that? Was
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he working for the CIA or with a Russian spine
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on him and watching who he was meeting with?
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So they do you know that he was meeting with?
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he was tracked later at his hide out and got
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into a wild bomb in bullet battle was Russian counter
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terror's agents, and he was killed. The raids that killed
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William Patnakov took place on July fourteenth, twenty seventeen. Who
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leaves town hours later? Camblin deni it?
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Oh my god?
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Slogan the airport on July seventeenth, twenty twelve, and breezes
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through customers without a passport, breezes through customers while on
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Tutar watchplusts and weeks later, mysteriously, his application for citizenship
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is reopened, even though he's not eligible because of the
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two thousand and nine arrest.
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Oh yeah, that's yeah, that's a whole nother thing. Yeah,
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but now how was he How did he if the
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Russians were aware of him, that this guy's hanky here
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these guys got problems. How did they let him in?
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Great questions? Another inexplicable question. We know that this was
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so bad. The FBI refused to answer these questions. To Congress,
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to anybody that our congressional delegation, led by the Hollywood
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actor of Stephen Sigal, went to Russia, and when and
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when Congress members a bipartisan group, when Congress got back,
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Bill Keating, a Massachusetts congressman, had a press conference and
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said that the russiing FSD was more cooperative than the FBI.
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Okay, that's fascinating that now we had discussed in the
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last episode, and it wasn't clear because I couldn't. I
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couldn't hear you at all. I was faking it. Okay,
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I'll be honest with you, the lassess of you, I
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could not hear a word you say it. But now
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you said that you were there on the scene that
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day of the bombing.
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Yes, prior to this was absolutely horrifying. I mean you
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just think about, you know, a city street that's littered
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with body parts and you know, like tubble pieces, really
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tubble pieces. Seventeen people became amptites that day. I'm just
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seventeen four double.
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Amptiqs, and you were there prior to the bombing.
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I was there prior to the bombing. It's the big day.
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You're in Boston in a Patriots Day. Everybody hangs a marathon,
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right game, It's just a big day to be in town.
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I mean, I simply could not believe that the city
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was under attack, especially having spent years covering nine to
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eleven sur the daily news. So this was absolutely horrifying.
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But what really I think sparked a lot of questions
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was wait a minute, Number one, right, do they not
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know who they were at? Number two? On the day
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of Tong Klier, the Mait police officer was assassinated, which
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happened to be the day that the FBI identified these
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photos that black hat suspect white hat while the FBI
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was all over Cambridge. My book Maximum Harm opens for
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the chapter called these mother Sleepers Are Here, and that
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chapter details how there were several encounters between Cambridge police
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and the FBI and the Alice the porschein probably was killed.
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In fact, those questions were asked by Senator Charles Grassley
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and a letter to FBI Director James tromy Hey, what
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were the friends doing all over Cambridge. Did you try
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to record Hamlin's and I have as an informant and
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useless to say James Cone ignored that letter and never
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provided the answers.
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And what kind of contact did you find the FBI
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had with them those that during that period of time.
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Well, I mean they admit that they went into the
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house and they interviewed them. But what I say, and
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this is based on reporting that's in writing, is that
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the Inspected General report that came out on the intelligence
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community after the Marathon bombing detailed a string of emails
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between the Naturalization Processing Officer and USCIS and the FBI saying, Hey,
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we're not going to give this guy's citizenship. Look at him,
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he's not on Tarah washlet's no gibaton. Hey a hold
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lot of it. This guy hasn't arrest he's not eligible
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in the FBI would respond to no gibaton. Now we
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all know that Samblain and I was very motivated to
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become a citizen because he wanted to box for the
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US Olympic boxing team.
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Was he qualified? Was he that talented as a boxer?
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Yeah, he was a two time heavyweight champ.
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That's interesting. Now, what about UK he.
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Could have booked. And he was also, you know, hanging
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around the NMA world in the Mixed Martial Lost world.
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Okay, I'm kind of jumping around here, but I don't
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want to forget too much stuff. What about where?
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What was that.
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I said, didn't even read the book?
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No, I didn't read the book. I'm sorry, but I didn't.
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I know, I'm sorry, but I.
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Have to read the book.
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I usually don't read the book because you know, the
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audience doesn't read the book, you know what I mean?
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So, and I kind of just said, hoping the audience
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the book.
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They'll read the book now, I promise you. But now
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during the trial, uh, one of the boy's mother kept saying,
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that's not my son. What do you make of that?
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I mean, I don't go down that wrote rabbit hole
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of Freezy.
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Okay.
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What I do know is that the Sense attorneys filed
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the brief saying that that family members and other sources
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told them the plea that the FBI tried to recruit
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Candlin Now as an informant.
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Now, the the FA was trying to But I have
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in the court records.
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I mean, I don't put down conspiracy, Arry Lane. I
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really everything in my book is annotated. Everything in my
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book is in writing. It's called over a three and
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a half year investigation involving court records, UH, the Homeland
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Security Committee's report, the Senate report on the Boston Marathon bombing,
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the Inspected General's report, and the fact that I was
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at the trial every single solitary day. I've interviewed multiple people.
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I've pulled all the police reports. So everything that I
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can that is a maximum HOMS is proven. I can
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prove it.
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I got you.
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I talk about, like I said, black job thinks that
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some other dudes was on the boat. I'm not going
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down that road.
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Wait, some other dude was what O on the boat?
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Okay, gotcha, that's oh yeah, that's what she was referring to.
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But she was saying that wasn't her son though at court.
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But now you're saying you think she's crazy.
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That's cool.
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Yeah, that's what I assume. Yeah, isn't that what she said?
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That?
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I mean, that's that's I mean. I was at quarter
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of the day. I can tell you that Jocos and
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I have got smuggling in front of me, marking and
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unremorseal every single ball. Third day, I saw it with.
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My own eyes.
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So now, what do you think happened? Do you think
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they were fbon formants. They obviously had some kind of
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connection to the CIA. They traveling to rush it back
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and forth, pass sports galore, citizenship glore, whatever they want.
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They got a free ticket. Everything they're doing now was
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the bombing like their own idea.
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Always?
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Well, I'm not saying that anyone in the government had
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anything to do with the bombing. Okay, I think you
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know he had been made a promise to help us,
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will helped you to become a citizen. That didn't come
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to foolers. His last interview with immigration officials came in
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January of twenty twelve, and during that interview he fully
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expected to walk out a citizens It didn't happen. He
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got mad any bombedo. I mean the bigger question that
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I think need to be asking. The federal government has
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said repeatedly and on the record that these brothers did
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not build the bomb. Well, you think there'd be a
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real push to see who did, because those people are
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still living amongst us.
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Wait, now, I thought from news reports that they were
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saying that they had that book how to build a
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bomb in the in the kitchen with your mom. Uh,
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and that they built the bomb themselves. You're saying no,
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it was.
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Later on customony. The FBI corrected that and that they
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don't believe that the that the Denians have to skill,
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nor did they find anything connected to the to the brothers.
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In fact, if you write the boff head, you would
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see that they did arrest a guy named Daniel Walley.
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Oh really had worked at MIT, and he got arrested
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with a cash of bomb making materials at his home
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here in Massachusetts, but inexplicably charges against similar drafts and
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the cases never prosecuted.
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Now, what was his name again?
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Daniel Morley?
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Now Daniel Morley. Was he from the States or was
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he from overseas as well?
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No, he was before he was what a guy who
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had grown up in America.
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Now is he walking around today free?
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Yes he is.
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Now what about him? Did you find any connections with
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him being an informant for either FBI or CI anything
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like that.
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Well, that's what we're looking at right now. We do
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know he was connected to Shamlin's and Eyes because when
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he was arrested, his mother said as much to the
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police to talk about how Danny had told her he
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had done something you would have to answer to God
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for and she told police that he was friends with Samblons.
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And oh boy, but now but he's He was investigated
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but not charged.
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He was arrested in our charged, arrested, called they called it.
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They called it a prose the whole case.
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Okay, all right, And do you have any idea why
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that could have happened?
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Uh? No idea?
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Okay, Now what about there was another situation too where
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there were two at the FBI where was interviewing somebody
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and that guy wound up getting shot. Well, what do
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you know about that?
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Well, that guy was did nine er. So he was
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in the process of writing order confessions about his inlvement
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and that unsolved triple murder. He attacked an FBI agent.
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An FBI agent responded by shooting him multiple times. And
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that man, Ebert Ibragham Chodasav is dead. The bigger question
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I think a lot of people had it was a
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hold on it. Do you think this guy is evolved
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in a brutal a title like triple murder in Massachusetts?
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Why would you be interviewing him on the edge of
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his bed in Orlando, Florida, especially when he had a
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very violent history.
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Okay, So there was this happened down in Florida. The
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FBI went down to visit in Florida. He was sitting
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on his bed, then jumped up and attacked him and
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they shoot him.
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Well, yeah, he did attack the FBI agent. The FBI
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again had the hedwords open with the table lag from
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a table that Tradasha broke with his day at hand.
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I mean he he absolutely attacked him.
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Okay, and how many Why were they so comfortable.
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With this guy that they were into viewing room at
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his house and.
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This was one FBI agent there or two several.
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There's one FBI agent and two Massachusetts State troopers and
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signed to the Waltham triple murder investigations.
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Okay, that's fascinating. And now there was anothering too where
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a couple of these FBI agents fell out of a
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helicopter later on.
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Uh So, two FBI agents who were alleged I don't,
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I don't, that's not in the book. I don't really
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get into it.
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Okay, but but okay, but you're familiar with the story.
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Though, right, Yeah, there were two FBI agents who were
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reportedly there my FBI, FBI officials have said they weren't there,
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but there were two FBI agents who are training on
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a borrowed shift off of the closet of North Carolina
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who died in a mysterious roper pounty accident.
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Okay, all right. And then so then the conspiracy theory
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00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:07.759
type of reports you hear about that there was the
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same FBI agents that were you know, involved in this
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that could be you have no facts about that.
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I have no facts about that.
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Okay, that's very interesting. Okay. So the two brothers, Okay,
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what is it that they did all day long? Did
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you talk to friends of theirs and associates of theirs?
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So the I mean they did nothing. They went to
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the gym. They went to work for a gym. The
504
00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:38.880
Joe car went On was a drug dealer. He went
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00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:41.759
Boston the group of his biggest customer base well as
506
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he was sailing out of you mess Boston. So no,
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I mean you suld just general lowlite.
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00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:49.559
Again you said it was a drug dealer selling marijuana
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or serious.
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Drugs selling marijuana, marijuana.
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Okay, So so then he was a well known marijuana dealer,
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and that had even more of a connection to that
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marijuana case.
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H I know, see, there's a lot of the tentacles
515
00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:07.720
to this case and you and you know it, really
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00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:09.119
it took a lot of us to put it all
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00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:09.680
together for this.
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Co Yeah, Maximum Harm by Michelle mcpee And you could
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find the book too at her website Michelle McFee dot com.
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00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:18.640
And also too, I'm gonna have a link to the
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book in the Opperman Report bookstore. And perhaps I'll even
522
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.279
buy a book and I'll read it myself and we'll
523
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have you back. But I usually don't read the book. Okay, Now,
524
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:32.839
what else did you cover in your book?
525
00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:38.440
So the the I think one of the most of
526
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:40.559
the two important things that you take away from this
527
00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:43.319
is it is how did Hamerons and I have set
528
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on the fast track of the citizenship right? And you know,
529
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.119
uh who holds the strings to help him become a candidate?
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00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:54.240
And in getting out of the country like that.
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To getting out of the country to get to get
532
00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:02.160
to Russia, right, and then you can get back in.
533
00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:03.519
And you say, when he came back in you had
534
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:05.559
no passport, He.
535
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Had no passport, he had you know what, ed, I'm
536
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:11.559
so sorry, but I'm getting called from ABC News as
537
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:13.680
a breaking story here in Boston. So can we we're
538
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:15.400
going to I can give you about five more minutes
539
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:16.200
and we have to wrap it up.
540
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:18.680
Okay, Okay, then then how do you want to wrap
541
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:20.200
up the sum up the story for us?
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00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:22.599
I mean, listen, this is what I think. I think
543
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:24.680
that there are a lot of an answer questions about
544
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:27.440
what happened in the Boston Marathon attacks. I think it's
545
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:33.039
it's law enforcement did an unbelievably stellar job bringing Joe
546
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:35.720
Carl's denied to justice and in the aftermath of the
547
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:38.759
Boston Marathon, but I still think he is very important
548
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.240
that we have sunshacks, and the fact that the FBI
549
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.200
can ignore congressional subpoenas, the fact that a congressional delegation
550
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:49.279
which forced to go to Russia to obtain information from
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00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.440
the Russian FSC, which all we hear these days is
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00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:57.240
how bad those people are, and the FBI still refuses
553
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.519
to answer these questions. The fact that if you look
554
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:06.039
at the court records that are right now being filed
555
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.720
on behalf of the Peals team, Joe cars and I
556
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:12.400
the Peals team as he sits in ADX supermacs with
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00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:16.359
no contact with anybody, and the lawyers for Joe cars
558
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:18.880
and I have are very concerned about the large quantity
559
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:21.839
of classified documents in the state that even they can't access.
560
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.400
We know that the federal drugs phototops, the Jokar was convicted,
561
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.319
that the huge volume of court records that are field
562
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:32.759
in this case of the unfield was still waiting for
563
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:35.079
this day, none of them are on the field. Why
564
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.200
the crowd of secrecy and why isn't there a push
565
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:43.119
from the very same investigators who are obsessed with this
566
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Russian investigation and whether or not the Trump team colluded
567
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with the Russians. I wish there was the same vigor
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being applied to questions about what did know what Hamlin's
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and I have, what relationships did he have of entities
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of the federal government, and why is the intelligence community
571
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allowed to escape?
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00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:01.920
Yeah?
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00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.079
Yeah, that that you know, you're right, because this was
574
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a historical event here. Uh, the cops actually shot shut
575
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:10.119
down the whole city there went door to door searching
576
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:14.039
for this guy. Uh, you know, it was unprecedent. And
577
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:19.559
and then and YEA, yeah, that's right, you're you know,
578
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:23.519
you're you're absolutely right. Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well, Michelle McFee,
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thank you so much. Okay, get to your breaking.
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00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:29.559
Story there, and I really appreciate the time and great show.
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00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:34.240
Okay, thank you. All right, that's that's Michelle McPhee.
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Uh.
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Her website is Michelle McFee dot com. The book is
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called uh Let's see here, Maximum Harm, the sawing Off Brothers,
585
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:47.319
the FBI, and the Road to the Marathon bombing. A
586
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:50.880
lot of brand new information there that I haven't heard before.
587
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:51.759
Uh.
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All this business about him coming in and out without
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a passport. I had hoped, actually that we would be
590
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:01.480
able to get Casey Gaine mcgallely always got him come in.
591
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:03.440
I thought we would have about ninety minutes with the
592
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.440
what's her name is? Michelle McPhee and that Casey gain
593
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to come on here. We kind of we're shaking things
594
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up here a bit, and I'm kind of making a
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mess out of thanks. Normally we broadcast on Saturday nights,
596
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and then we had to make a little change there
597
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:26.440
and we're taping this Thursday morning. We said, I'm gonna
598
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:30.920
hold a Casey here. Oh, I'm getting a message from Danny.
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00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:34.799
Maybe he's gonna bail me out here, okay, and I'm
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just skype okay, all I gotta see if he's available, Ami,
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so I can just pull my life. I did talk
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to him yesterday, do do? Okay, how do we do this? Okay,
603
00:30:52.000 --> 00:31:01.720
where it's Casey, give me one second, he guys. Here
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00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:04.160
we go, Casey Gain. Ah, he's not online. Let's try
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00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:10.680
it anyway. I'll try and find him on Facebook. Boy,
606
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I'm not quite prepared today, you might say.
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Okay.
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00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:28.799
Anyway, we had there Michelle McPhee Michelle McPhee dot com.
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Her book is Maximum Harm, The Thrown Up Brothers, the
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FBI and the Road to the Marathon. Mommy, you know
611
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:39.359
it's interesting. We had her on Saturday and there was
612
00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:41.599
such bad audio problems that we had to abort the
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interview after about five minutes. I asked you, like two questions. Well, first,
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we talked about Okay, hey, Casey Gain says he's gonna
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00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.440
be on Skype in a few minutes. Okay, good son't
616
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:54.079
pull him right in. He can bail us out. Casey,
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00:31:54.119 --> 00:32:02.759
you're there, no, okay, so what do you call it? Okay? Oh,
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00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:11.599
he's listening. Okay, he's changed his Skype. Okay. Oh yeah, Casey,
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we got you.
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00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:13.759
Yeah, what's going on? Man?
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00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:15.319
Hey, how were you Now, did you listen to the
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00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:16.039
interview with there.
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With this I was listening.
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00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:19.839
It was great and immad she left before you guys
625
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.799
could really pick up a lot of the really good
626
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:29.559
interesting like web of deception and police officers and terrorists
627
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:33.000
and government agents that really go into the Boston bombing,
628
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:34.359
especially with the murder.
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You were talking about the triple murder.
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00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:39.440
Hey, but before we get to that, remind the audience
631
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:41.200
because we had jo on once before to talk about
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00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:44.200
your book about the CIA's secret war in Jamaica, which,
633
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:48.079
by the way, is this guy's done exclusive excellent research
634
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:50.839
on Jamaica down there and there's the same characters on
635
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:52.559
the Bay of Pigs and Water again, all the same
636
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.680
guys Operation forty guys. They're all down there in Casey's book.
637
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:56.279
Uh.
638
00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.480
Yeah, he just did a good interview with this guy
639
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:03.240
Timothy Kelly, who's another smart interviewer.
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00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:05.200
So yeah, I had to talk about that.
641
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So if anyone wants to go back and listen to
642
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.119
my old interviews with Ed or Timothy Kelly, who are
643
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:12.440
both both, you guys are amazing interviewers with a lot
644
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.720
of knowledge yourself and allow me to really express what's
645
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:18.440
going on and add insight into what was going on
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00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:21.359
in Jamaica, and also definitely a connection to the deep
647
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:27.160
state Kennedy assassination, Iran contract drug running. Hey, and this
648
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:31.279
Boston bombing is so much similarities between like even the
649
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:34.759
JFK assassination and Iran conto with the kind of government
650
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:38.480
cover ups and these patsies and these agents and this
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00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:40.880
terrorism and drug dealing.
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00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:44.279
It's a really, really, really nasty weave.
653
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:49.400
So yeah, my friend Eric Wiseman was killed twenty eleven
654
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.200
and in that triple murder that Michelle McPhee was talking about,
655
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:54.599
and yes he was Jewish, his throat was slit and
656
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.319
the informations out there that he had his penis stuck
657
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:01.279
in his mouth when he was murdered. And I think, well,
658
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what Michelle and a lot of other people believe, and
659
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:06.759
they have reason to believe that it was Tamerlin Sarnaia
660
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:07.160
in an.
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00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:08.960
Act of Islamic terrorism, because you know.
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If you get the decapitation, you have the ten year
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anniversary of nine to eleven.
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But also, my.
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Friend was in deep with some very very nasty international
666
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drug dealers. I don't know how it happened, but there
667
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:25.559
was a kind of a Canadian drug ring that would
668
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:28.559
import cocaine from Mexico and Colombia.
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Then they would bring down marijuana to the States which.
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They would sell, and they were also traded for pills,
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and they ran a pretty sophisticated international drug ring. And
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these were French Canadians bringing marijuana down in through Vermont.
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And one of these guys, the head guy, was a
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guy by the name of Michael Chamis, who was known
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as the Banker and before he was already under investigation,
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00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:58.039
had a warrant for him in Canada for being a
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00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.760
banker for marijuana drugging. He did as he flew to
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00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:04.960
Dubai and he set up shop in Dubai while still
679
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:09.760
keeping these connections with these French gangsters. So and when
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00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.480
my friend was murdered, the first like instinct a lot
681
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of my my friends had was to think, it was
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00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:19.000
like me, maybe a biker gang, Right, Who's who.
683
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:20.159
Commits these acts of violence?
684
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Obviously you have terrorism, you have the Sinaloa cartel, so
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drug dealers are also very violent. And one thing I
686
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.840
learned about my friend is that he had his house
687
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:36.199
raided and not only was twenty thousand dollars missing, but
688
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.480
it was something like three hundred thousand dollars.
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00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:38.920
Worth of pot.
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00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:45.000
And so soon after he was arrested a big time
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00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:49.320
Syrian drug dealer in the Waltham Watertown area by the
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00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:54.440
name of a Sammi Saffron Mattarati Syrian guy, and he
693
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:58.840
controlled a lot of the marijuana trade in the Boston suburbs.
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And right before or right after my friend was arrested,
695
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he also was arrested and charged in a massive drug
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00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:14.920
money laundering conspiracy along with a lot of Canadians and
697
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.800
a lot of dirty undercover cops were also implicated in
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00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.840
this case from both the wal Fame and Watertown area
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00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:26.719
who were extorting drug dealers and robbing and kind of
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00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.639
shaking them down for money. And what actually led to
701
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.840
the indictment of this Sami Saffoon Manarati guy is that
702
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.559
he actually sent goons to the houses of these cops,
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00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:40.679
so they had to kind of shut down the investigation.
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For fear of police lives being injured.
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00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:46.920
But both of these cops see and some of these
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00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:50.119
cops were also on the scene for the Boston bombing.
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00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:52.159
But these cops, if you really look at them, they
708
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.719
really seemed caught up in drugs. They seemed caught up
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00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:58.039
in corruption. And if you look at there's two towns
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00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:00.960
outside of Boston right next to each other, wal Fame
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00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:03.639
in Watertown, the little suburbs out the side of Boston.
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00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:06.360
I would never have thought there'd be so much drug
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00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.840
dealing and violence there. But there have been like all
714
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sorts of cops committing suicide, random suicides, like five or
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six in the past six years from wal Fame. And
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00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:19.480
there was another black female cop was killed shortly after
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00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:23.159
my friend was murdered. Her name was Gail Miles and
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00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:26.119
her throat was slit right after she let Watertown. So
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there is a.
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Lot of.
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Police misconduct and we want to know, like why are
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people covering up It could be that police could have
723
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been involved in the murder or knew of it, or
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been involved in the drug trafficking that led to the murder.
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00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:47.559
All that's interesting. Now you're saying that your friend who
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00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:50.719
had his throat sloot, that he was involved in another
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case where there was a big a couple of bus right.
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00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.199
Yeah, he had his house in Rosendale, Massachusetts raided while
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00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:59.199
he was in California and they found I think they
730
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:03.119
found a gun, oxy con cocaine, and then you know,
731
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maybe twenty thousand cash in a lot of marijuana. And
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this isn't you know, something you could just buy your
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way out. So I mean when you think about you know,
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criminals and everything like that, he doesn't even have to
735
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.760
be an informant. But because he was just in this
736
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:20.239
bus and he might have been, you know, they might
737
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:21.920
not have thought. They might have think he'd be someone
738
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:24.800
who'd fold under pressure. Right, So there was also and
739
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:29.039
the interesting thing is there is a kind of connection
740
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:32.639
between this moderaty gang and terrorism. If you read Michelle's books,
741
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:35.920
she talks about him being implicated in it in a
742
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:40.000
case with Somali drug dealers in Maine to find to
743
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:44.239
fund terrorist groups in East Africa, and the connections of
744
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:46.400
all like the guy Michael Chamis, who was the kind
745
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.079
of the big guy in the Canada organization. He is
746
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:51.760
in Dubai base and he's known as the banker, and
747
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.280
one would have to think he's laundering a lot of
748
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.719
drug money. He changed his name and then became the
749
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:02.280
prime Minister of island off the host of Eritrea called
750
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:06.159
San Bernardino, so he changed his name to another more
751
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:07.760
Arabic sounding name. I could get at you, but this
752
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:11.639
guy is a real like James Bond character. You'd have
753
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:15.960
to think he's involved in some type of intelligence. There's
754
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:19.199
a lot of money laundering is very central to these
755
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.719
intelligence agencies, and also money laundering is also big for
756
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.880
terrorism and places like Dubai, where he's based, is where
757
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:27.639
a lot of the money that went to go fund
758
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:28.280
isis was.
759
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:30.760
And he's a Lebanese guy. This chain, this guy in
760
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.280
a safon.
761
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:36.519
Moderati and it's really interesting, you know, just doing a
762
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:40.000
little Google research, I'm not sure Moderati is in jail.
763
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:43.199
I think he has an active Facebook page and I
764
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:46.719
think he's posting a lot of uh stuff about.
765
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:47.400
The war in Syria.
766
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.239
So it's it's it's it's really like a very deep,
767
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:54.679
entangled web that definitely goes up all the way to
768
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:56.800
you know, call me in the FBI and Brennan, the
769
00:39:56.880 --> 00:40:00.800
CIA director. So it's it really could be a can
770
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:02.800
of worms that could really explode, and you'll see a
771
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:05.679
lot of government cover ups. You'll see a lot of
772
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:09.800
government involved in drug dealing, a lot of government involvement
773
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:12.360
in terrorism, and I think that's kind of center to
774
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:15.119
what's going on and why you're getting no transparency from
775
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:18.840
the media on the case and or the government.
776
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:19.880
As well, and so many cross stories.
777
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:24.119
Of course, you had Tamerline Saranaya's friend who was killed
778
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:29.199
in Orlando in a kind of weird case, and then
779
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:30.960
you had these He was also the Mix and there's
780
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:32.800
a lot of stuff going on with like the mixed
781
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:36.199
Martial Arts Jim. Then Tamlin was involved in the White
782
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Crew gym.
783
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:39.440
Well, let me ask you a couple of questions. You
784
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:41.480
mentioned first that this guy you didn't know if he
785
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:42.320
was in jail or not.
786
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:44.719
What does Skwan Moderati?
787
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.159
Yes, he was convicted, but I got you know, I
788
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.320
did a little social media research and I found her white.
789
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:53.079
His wife had a friend by the name of Boston Sam.
790
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:57.000
His nickname is Sam Sammy, and Watertown is considered close
791
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to Boston, and so it could be quite possible that
792
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.199
these guys maybe cut deals with agencies to go fight
793
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:05.159
overseas or.
794
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:07.400
Well, what state would he be in jailing in Boston
795
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:08.440
in Massachusetts?
796
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:10.320
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it would be Massachusetts.
797
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:11.840
Well, you know a good way to check and see
798
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:14.320
if someone's in jail. You go to JPE and you
799
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:16.599
look up and you look up their inmate. You look
800
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:18.400
up every every jail in Boston, you know, you look
801
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:18.880
up every gym.
802
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:20.920
I think, I think that's some that'd be some good
803
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:21.559
research to do.
804
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:24.719
And thanks for that, you know, because it's it's very weird,
805
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:28.599
this whole moderate well fame Watertown Gang and these corrupt
806
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:31.719
cops and these cops by suicide and all these cops
807
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:34.280
being involved in the kind of but not only is
808
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:37.440
it the marijuana trade, but the prescription pill trade was
809
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:41.440
a really big thing going on for Saffron Manorati. So
810
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:44.000
Tamlin fought out of this gym called the Wye Crew Gym,
811
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:46.239
which is the MMA gym where you know, people fought
812
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:51.000
mixed martial arts UFC style, And this gym seems to
813
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.400
have been like a hub for some sort of narcotics
814
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:56.480
trafficking as well. And there's this weird guy, John Allen,
815
00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:59.360
who owns the gym, and he seems to be a
816
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:03.199
quite suspicious character who travels a lot. He had a partner,
817
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:08.159
Steve the Sandman Done, who was busted for trafficking oxy
818
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:11.199
conton all the way from Florida and then he only
819
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:12.519
had like a two year sentence.
820
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:13.320
When I was looking up.
821
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.239
Originally they said he was facing up to twenty but
822
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.519
he's out now after serving two years.
823
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:20.679
But there's a lot of like prescription.
824
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:24.840
Pills, marijuana, like whichard I'd say the probably the most
825
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:28.440
popular drugs in Massachusetts now. You know, you don't really
826
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:31.440
have cocaine, of course, and then you might have heroin,
827
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which is a.
828
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:35.400
Lot of result of the prescription pills that was they
829
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.679
were selling in like twenty ten. So it's uh, well, a.
830
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:41.000
Lot of these gyms, you know, these boxing gyms. You
831
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:43.599
know what a lot of professional boxes they are. You know,
832
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:45.679
they're all truck dealers. You know, there's a lot of trucks.
833
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:49.360
I mean, you can recruit tough guys, right, you know,
834
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.199
you know they could fight, right, you have a kind
835
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:56.519
of central, central place to do it and like it
836
00:42:56.719 --> 00:43:00.760
very much, seems. And of course the drug dealers. My
837
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.519
friend and Brendan Mess who was not Jewish but was
838
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:08.039
also murdered along with Raphael Techan. Brendan Mess is from
839
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:09.760
my neighborhood. I didn't know him well, but a lot
840
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:12.119
of my friends were very close with him. And then
841
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:14.880
Raphael Techan and they all went to this gym. And
842
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:17.840
then you had this guy, Steve the sane man done
843
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:22.159
selling lots of oxycons and oxycons are very central to
844
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.599
like the moderaty drug organization as well. Like one of
845
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:28.920
the things that got caught for was importing a large
846
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:30.599
amount of oxy codone from Los.
847
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.360
Angeles from Armenian drug dealers.
848
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:36.199
So it's a very tangled web from like cocaine from
849
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:41.360
the Sinaloa cartel, oxy codone from California, marijuana from.
850
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:44.960
Canada, and it's all you know, and then it all
851
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:45.800
gets laundered.
852
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:46.239
Of course.
853
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:49.679
You know, drug laundering and drug money is such an
854
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:54.400
important part of making American society work and American intelligence,
855
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:58.119
especially because it's a way you can fund resistance without
856
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:01.119
having to be accountable for it.
857
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:04.920
Now, in only your experience, in my experience, you know,
858
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.760
now I live in Vegas, But have you ever seen
859
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:12.400
like this many Middle Easterners involved in running drug cartels.
860
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:14.639
I've never seen that experience in my life.
861
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.199
Except well, I think you're kind of getting a changing dynamic,
862
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.400
especially with the large amount of heroin coming out of Afghanistan.
863
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:24.920
Okay, And I think the kind of the Boston.
864
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:26.840
Market might have changed from like the working class white
865
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:29.800
guys to new immigrants. And from a certain level, I
866
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:33.079
think you have a large amount of capital from the
867
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:37.039
a good amount of the Arab population. And also people
868
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:40.199
become drug dealers when the CIA wants them to fund
869
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.599
their friends. You know, the Nicaraguans became drug dealers during
870
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:47.079
Iran contrast. So now you have an instance where the
871
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:50.159
CIA wants to fund Syria or a certain resistance fight.
872
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.280
Isis what's the best way to do it? If you
873
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:56.679
can't call Congress, you allow some Syrian drug dealers to
874
00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:59.639
make money and then funnel that money, launder that money
875
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:02.079
to buy weapons and fund them there. You know, the
876
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:06.400
CIA doesn't usually like funding their their operations on the
877
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:09.320
books with government money, so they have a big watch
878
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:12.159
fund of drug money and this is just more of it.
879
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:15.599
So I think you're gonna see in the next coming years,
880
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:20.920
like I'm sure in Europe you're already the kind of
881
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.800
heroin lords in Afghanistan are as powerful as the drug
882
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:24.599
lords in Mexico.
883
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:26.559
So I think.
884
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:31.480
Definitely, your guys, especially since the invasion of Afghanistan opened
885
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:35.360
up a new pipeline of heroin from the Middle East,
886
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:39.079
you've seen a lot more Arab drug dealers, and especially
887
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:43.039
now too that especially Syrian or anyone who would they
888
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:46.960
would use to fight against Assad or whoever the US
889
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:48.079
enemy of the month is.
890
00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:52.800
Now you mentioned too, Somali drug dealers up in Maine, up.
891
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:56.079
In Maine, yeah, wrote Michelle wrote pretty well, pretty extensively
892
00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:56.320
on it.
893
00:45:56.960 --> 00:45:58.039
Well, what can you tell me about that?
894
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:02.320
So even the gun, so the gun that they traced that.
895
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:10.920
Allegedly Johars and I have shot called Sean Collier, allegedly,
896
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:12.920
you know, the gun that they had at they actually
897
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:16.719
traced back to a Somali gang that was operating in
898
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:20.920
Maine but also had connections to Massachusetts. So not only
899
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:24.119
did they have connections to the Sarnias, but they also
900
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:29.199
had connections to the Syrian drug lord Sami Sathuan Madarati.
901
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:33.920
Okay, I used to spend a lot of time up
902
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:37.000
in Maine, you know, because I was part of a
903
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:41.079
gospel tent ministry up there, and I spent it all
904
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:44.239
every day. And I saw I spent a lot of
905
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:45.639
time up man. I went there every summer, you know,
906
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.039
a lot of time back in the nineties two thousand.
907
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.679
Now that's the whitest place in the world, man.
908
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:54.679
Yeah, and it is the white but you do have
909
00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:58.000
a new influx of East African immigrants from Somalia.
910
00:46:58.039 --> 00:46:59.800
You even have a lot of like former child.
911
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:02.880
Soldiers, So you have this population, and then you also
912
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:07.039
have a heroin addicted population, so you're having you're having
913
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:11.519
black and Latino people's service the heroin addiction. So that
914
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:14.039
was part of the reason the Sobaldi gang there was
915
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:18.880
operating selling drugs of these white heroin addicts with the
916
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:22.280
help of Sami Sothon Moderati, and they were in turn
917
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.320
using that money to send back home to their friends
918
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:27.920
who were in Al Shabab, which is an East African
919
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:29.039
terrist group.
920
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.559
Now I see and I'm familiar with this new phenomenon
921
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:34.239
of these these massive influx of these Somalians.
922
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:36.920
You know, yeah, you're getting it in Minneapolis.
923
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.320
Minneapolis might be probably the biggest place, and you're getting
924
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:42.599
a lot of, uh, the same thing you have in Boston.
925
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:45.000
Like in Boston you have a big problem with and
926
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:48.000
it's a repeated thing with Termily. He's not the only person.
927
00:47:48.440 --> 00:47:52.440
There's all sorts of Muslims in Boston who were approached,
928
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:56.639
solicited by the FBI and trapped by the FBI, tried
929
00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:58.760
to be turned into informans by the FBI, who actually
930
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.920
wound up becoming terrorists as a lady al Qaeda at
931
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:05.559
Mit who was talking to the FEDS before she went
932
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:08.599
off and married Kalete Shaike Mohammad and then wound up
933
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:12.519
being captured in Afghanistan and shooting an officer.
934
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.000
You have there was another little boy.
935
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:17.599
Who they were mentally insane kid who they were offering
936
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:20.159
drones and stuff to fly into the thing. And then
937
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:23.599
you had another man by the name of Tarik Mahanna
938
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:27.639
and this guy him and he had a friend and
939
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:31.639
they were both kind of kind of manipulated and trapped
940
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:34.159
by the FBI, and they refused to do it. Tarik
941
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:38.360
Mahanna wound up flying to Syria and then was named
942
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:42.719
the communications director for ISIS. So you have a very
943
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:49.840
interesting nexus of the Islamic community in Boston being manipulated
944
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:54.119
by FBI or the CIA or other government agents and
945
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:58.920
then boom, boom, bam bam, some terrorism act they become
946
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.639
involved in or they become some wanted terrorists after being
947
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:02.719
under the thumb of the FBI.
948
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:05.239
Well that's very interesting. Now, now, now what do you
949
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:07.480
make of a whole situation with these brothers being able
950
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:09.320
to travel to Russia and get into Russia.
951
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:11.519
You know, hilarious.
952
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:14.280
I think that's obviously they're getting government assistants. They were
953
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:18.760
getting government assistance on their immigration. It's hard for me
954
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:21.679
to like, if I go to London and I grow
955
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:25.159
a beard, right, I'm getting searched, you know, and I'm
956
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:30.400
a biracial African American white person and these people are
957
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:34.519
on terrorists watch lifts coming back from Terra's hotbed areas.
958
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:38.599
It's really so clear that they were getting FBI, CIA
959
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:41.400
assistance to travel through and that it's pretty clear if
960
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:45.519
you read Michelle's book, that Tamberlin was definitely spying on
961
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:50.519
these kind of jihadis in Chechenil who were fighting the Russians,
962
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:52.719
which is I mean, it's an interesting new dynamic. I
963
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:54.800
think maybe like seven years ago, we didn't have the
964
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.320
Russian American tensions that we have now because of Trump
965
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:01.639
and the election, and that it was possible that they
966
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.320
were working together to get some of these Cheschans jihadis,
967
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:08.920
and Tamerlin was both giving information to the Americans and
968
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:11.039
the Russians because, like Michelle was talking about a lot
969
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:13.159
of the people he met when he went over to
970
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:17.800
Dagistan and Chechena wound up dead after meeting him. Like
971
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:20.119
he pointed him out, he said, they're here. Boom they
972
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.000
killed him, you know, or another person was arrested. So
973
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:26.119
it's pretty clear he was informing on a lot of
974
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:28.519
these Islamic jihadis while in.
975
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:33.320
While in Russia or what used to be Russia. Yeah. See.
976
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But the thing is, it's my understanding though, that the
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CIA supports the Islamic the Chechenians.
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Very much so, and and that's what's kind of interesting.
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And that's why possibly when the Russians gave the information
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about Temerlin that they didn't do anything about it. And
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a lot of these Chechenians are actually fighting in Syria
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for ISIS. They have all these redheaded Islamic leaders.
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Who are.
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You know, Chechenans who are fighting for ISIS in Syria.
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So it's yeah, it's definitely, it's definitely weird. That seems
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like a crazy game of cat and mouse between the FSC,
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00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:10.800
the FBI, and the CIA trying to act like they're
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being friendly to each other and helping each other out
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while really having ulterior motives on both sides. I think
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00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:18.000
the Russians warned him just because they knew and they
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00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:20.360
could cover their ass. They said, hey, we think this
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00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:22.039
guy's a terrorist. I'm pretty sure they knew he was
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00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.440
a CIA agent. They were basically telling him, hey, we.
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Know your agent, just friendly heads up, We think he might.
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Be a terrorist like all those other terrorists you support.
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00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:31.920
So I think that's what more that I was about.
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00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:34.199
So it could be either way. It could have been
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00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:36.599
they could be using him just to kind of see
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what was going on in Chechnya to look at the resistance.
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00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:44.039
Maybe the radicals he was with wasn't the radicals the
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00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:46.079
US wanted fighting in Chechnya, And they might have had
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00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:50.840
another agenda groups. It's not really clear exactly, but the
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00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:54.719
kind of friendly relationship between the FSC and the CIA
1004
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:58.920
and FBI, they're not friendly, they're mortal enemies. But you
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00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:03.679
have the FSC sending friendly information about possible terrorists in
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the US.
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00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.199
Yeah, well, I guess, but for their own self interest
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because if they were involved with the Chechans, the Russians
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hate the Cheches. Now are you gonna write? Are you
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going to write a book about all this?
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00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.880
I think so it's it's because there's a Michelle's book
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00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:19.400
is really great and amazing, but I think, you know,
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00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:21.679
and she has a different world viewsing me I don't know.
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00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:24.440
I heard her use the term conspiracy theorists, which I
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00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:27.400
don't like that term. I believe in facts, just like
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00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:30.239
she believes in facts. But I think and just like
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00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.480
she sourced everything in her book, I sourced everything in
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00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:35.800
my book. But I think there's quickly any time you
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00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:39.079
want to insinuate some type of government misconduct, you're going
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to get labeled conspiracy theorists. So, you know, I mean
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00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.239
it's I've been doing a lot of research, and I've
1022
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:47.599
been working with a lot of amazing researchers. It's just
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00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:50.360
that before a book, I want there's like a couple
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00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:53.320
missing pieces for the puzzle, and you know, I think
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00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:55.039
I have a lot of them. But there's a couple
1026
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:58.559
connectings that kind of connect the Water Team Waltham murder,
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00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:03.159
to the CIA's foreign agenda, to the Boston bombing, to
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00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:06.679
the drug trade. There's one, there's there's just a couple
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00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:08.559
more pieces and then I think I could kind of
1030
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:10.360
wrap my head around it a little better and be
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00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:10.960
able to present it.
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In book for her.
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Yeah, I think Michelle was a little gun shy because
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00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:18.800
I had her on Saturday and there was a on YouTube.
1035
00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:20.960
There was a title about this show and we got
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00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:23.760
trolled by all these people really saying a lot of
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00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.920
rude things about her. So I think that's pretty much
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00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:27.360
what happened.
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00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:31.440
She's a great journalist, she's real by the books. She
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goes to facts and a lot of in her book,
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00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:38.559
you see something you wouldn't see by any other mainstream journalists.
1042
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:41.800
But I and I think it's her, you know, caution
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in her journalistic integrity. And also I think she's very
1044
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:46.400
trusting of law enforcement in the government.
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00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:49.280
Yeah, so that's why.
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00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:52.280
Yeah, when when she mentioned that she was based out
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00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:54.800
of one police plaza, heard her news office was out
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00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:57.559
of one police plaza, you know, you're surrounded, you know
1049
00:53:57.599 --> 00:53:59.960
what I mean? Yeah, you know what I mean.
1050
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:04.559
We have we have you know, some common law enforcement sources,
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00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:08.199
and they speak very highly of her and uh loud
1052
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:11.000
her journalism. And you know, even anytime anyone goes and
1053
00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:13.280
she was beat up. I don't know why she was
1054
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:14.800
beat up, but she was beat up by a police
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00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:18.159
officer shortly before the announcement of the book, and it's
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00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:20.880
I don't know what happened. I wish she was here,
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00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:23.920
she could have asked her about it. But she's going
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00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:26.599
through some stuff. You know, anytime you challenge the government,
1059
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:28.760
you're gonna get some top pushback. Even if you don't
1060
00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:31.679
go all the way against the government. You know, if
1061
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.960
you're if you're questioning the FBI and the CIA, you know,
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00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:36.519
I might hatch her off to you.
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You know.
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Okay, we got a little break. We're gonna come back
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00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:42.840
with more casey gain. Okay, brother, you can come back. Okay, Okay,
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we'll be back right at these messages, I work moss.
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Youvorite adoption?
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When you do adoption?
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Assets? Or what do you think you has? Assets about school?
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Person?
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kind of pople briss computer?
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So call a digital wards where we can recover the.
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Conjectu drug insta port exclu mail.
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Joined digital forensic investigator in PI at Opperman for an
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in depth discussion of conspiracy theories, strategy of New World
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Order resistance, hi profile court cases in the news, and
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interviews with expert.
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Guests and authors on these topics and more.
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It's the Opperman Report, and now here is investigator Ed Opperman.
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Okay, welcome back to the Opperman Report. I'm your host,
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01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:43.880
private investigator at Opperman, and we've been joined by Casey
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01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:48.559
Gain mcgala who was an author. Mcala sorry that it
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01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:50.719
was Mcalla and not Gain. It's Gin. That's what the
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01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:51.119
G is.
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01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.559
Okay again for g I just I'm Casey Gain on Facebook.
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01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:55.800
It's Mcalla on Facebook.
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01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:58.239
But my birth name and my author name from my
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01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:01.119
book inside the CEE I signal is Casey Gain.
1124
01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:03.559
And where can people find you? Facebook?
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01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:08.079
Worlds, Facebook, Instagram. You know, I've just done a lot
1126
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:10.199
of interviews if you just look me up on YouTube.
1127
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:14.280
I have a music video generator website where I keep
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01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:16.719
a lot of content MVGEN and I also put out
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01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:21.719
music there by myself and my colleagues from Mankind. Yeah,
1130
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:24.400
just you know Facebook school. I tweet every now and
1131
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:29.519
then Instagram a lot. You know, then I think Facebook
1132
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:31.960
if if usually want my political content, I go to
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01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:34.519
Facebook just for you know. I don't have five thousand
1134
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:37.039
friends yet, and I always add people after I do
1135
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:39.199
interviews and I love getting feedback from them. I've met
1136
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:42.400
so many cool people and become like friends with people
1137
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.039
just off doing radio interviews and then people listening and
1138
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:46.679
then get shooting me a message.
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01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:48.400
So you know, just Casey Gain on Facebook.
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01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:54.320
Yeah, our webmaster Sean Duff from Strowmanmusic dot com has
1141
01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:58.199
used your music video Generator and he's very impressed with
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01:01:58.239 --> 01:01:59.719
He's always has compliments about that.
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01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:01.920
But yeah, we have one point five million views.
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01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:03.800
We've been on World Star hip Hop, which is a
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01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:07.400
pretty big website. OK player like we work with Charles Hamilton.
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01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:09.840
We worked this with Mankind. We don't work with Major Laser.
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01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:12.800
It's a pretty good group. So you know, anybody, any
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musicians out there, or anyone who just wants to have
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some fun on the internet, go to mvgen dot com.
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Upload your music, type in keywords and then we'll make
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a video based on those keywords so you can make
1152
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it funny, happy. We have a really good JFK video
1153
01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:29.039
by Mankind called Grassy Noll and it has like live
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01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:31.760
gifts from the JFK assassination. So if you want to
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see JFK's head, go back into the left and his
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brains fly out, and see all the other casts of characters.
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01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:40.360
So we're definitely trying to bring you know the truth,
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01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:43.960
the secret history, not the alternative history, not conspiracy theories,
1159
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:48.800
where not only through through writing and through interviews, but
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01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:49.679
also through music.
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01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:51.679
So everyone, you know, I'll be posting a lot of
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01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:52.039
this stuff.
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01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:54.840
If you like MVGEN like the Facebook page, you'll see
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a lot of really great, awesome cool content that we
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have and you can use it for yourself. And if
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you want some tips, just message me. You know I've
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applied to all my messages. Say hey, I want to
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01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:06.679
learn how to use MVGNG with or some good tips, I'll.
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01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:06.800
Let you know.
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01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:11.159
Yeah, cases available. And now I just I just did
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01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:14.760
an interview. It just played last night on Friday Night,
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01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:18.960
because we're going to pretend today is Saturday. Just just
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01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.320
played the last night with the Mark Devlin and we
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01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:24.599
did a show about Africa, bombarda uh.
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01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:25.559
And get crazy.
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I actually I had people reach out to me and like,
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01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:32.199
it's all the allegations are true.
1178
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:33.280
You know, I got I can say.
1179
01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:37.119
From personal confidential sources. And I think anytime you get
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like some type of cult organization, I'm not calling. I
1181
01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:41.920
have friends in the Zulu Nation, you know, it's a
1182
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:45.079
good organization, just like I have Catholic friends, even though
1183
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:48.280
they have bad priests. But I think a lot of
1184
01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:51.760
times when you get like a football team or a
1185
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:55.480
club or a religious group, it really makes it easy
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01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:59.519
for old men in power to pray on young women,
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01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:02.599
young boys. And it's really it's really sad that that
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01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:04.840
whole situation because I you know, like I said, I
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01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:08.199
talk to people who you know, are intimately involved with
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01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:12.000
people that that situation has affected, and it's it's it's
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01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:13.559
it's it's it's a bad mark on hip hop. But
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01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:15.280
it's something you need to put out there.
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01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:16.119
You can't.
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01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:19.320
You know, a lot of a lot of private schools,
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01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:23.920
a lot of religious groups, a lot of musical groups.
1196
01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:28.159
All together, you have young women getting preyed on by
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01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:32.079
older men with power or boys too. If you look
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01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:33.960
a lot of these boy bands like in Sync and
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01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:38.599
that guy Lou Peerlman, you and then you would have
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01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:41.239
another group B two K where you had this guy
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01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:43.760
Chris Stokes and there are a lot of accusations of
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01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:49.000
molestation against him. So like the music industry is unfortunately
1203
01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:51.760
a hotbed for sexual predators as we see with like R.
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01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:54.079
Kelly and a lot of other people. And adding the
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01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:58.039
kind of organizational element that the Zulu Nation had, you
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01:04:58.119 --> 01:04:59.880
had a you know, anytime you get an organization, you
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01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:01.480
get a code a secrecy, and that's how you know,
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01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:05.599
police and gangs and other places avoid revealing their secrets.
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01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:06.440
Yeah.
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01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:08.960
I actually I grew up in the suation, you know,
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01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:10.679
I grew up in the Bronx, you know, and uh
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01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:14.960
oh yeah, crazy I knew, I knew, I knew Africa
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01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:17.480
and bought it back when he was keV and he
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01:05:17.559 --> 01:05:19.719
was in a Black Spade, well Black Spades. Yeah, well
1215
01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:22.239
the Black Spades came to my school and they demanded
1216
01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:24.440
that my school give scholarships to a bunch of their kids.
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01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:25.559
That's good.
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01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:27.840
I think in that era you kind of had like
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01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:28.960
the conscious gangs.
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01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:31.519
You have, like the gangs becoming part of like the
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01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:33.639
Black Panthers before the crack era hit.
1222
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:34.960
And it became all about money.
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01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:38.320
You kind of had like you know in Chicago and
1224
01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:40.639
in la even the Bloods and the Crips, they didn't
1225
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:43.199
start off as drug dealing gangs. They started off as
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01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:47.360
community organizations. And I think and of course, you know,
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01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:50.239
even the Zulu Nation kind of you know, they they
1228
01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:53.239
would fight, but there were an organization and they weren't,
1229
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:55.519
you know, but a lot of oh man, there's a
1230
01:05:55.639 --> 01:05:57.119
there's a lot of stuff that could come up.
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01:05:57.199 --> 01:05:58.800
Actually, did you hear the story.
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01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:01.960
About one of the Africa Bambadas, like lieutenant who was
1233
01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:02.840
just killed in Atlanta.
1234
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:06.039
Yeah, we were talking about that too. Yeah, yeah, versus
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01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:06.880
that's crazy.
1236
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:09.920
And like I know, people, you know, I'm a rapper,
1237
01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:11.079
I'm tied to the hip about ministry.
1238
01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:14.039
So a lot of my ogs are you know, really.
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01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:16.639
Connected and know about what's going on in the Bronx.
1240
01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:19.000
And it's some scary stuff and a lot of people
1241
01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:23.719
could become exposed. And I think it's you know, it's bambada.
1242
01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:26.599
But I'm sure it's going on in the Mormon Church.
1243
01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:29.519
I'm sure, uh, you know, one direction and all those
1244
01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:31.679
other guys went through it and had of course with
1245
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:32.920
Louke Perlman, and it's.
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01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:37.039
I'm glad. I'm glad people are coming and shout out
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01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:37.440
to all.
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01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:39.960
The brave people who can come forward and admit that
1249
01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:43.440
that happened and protect other people from from from getting
1250
01:06:43.719 --> 01:06:45.599
having to go through that too, you know. And there
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01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:49.599
so it's yeah, and I think, you know, once you
1252
01:06:49.719 --> 01:06:51.880
have one one person who comes out, other people will
1253
01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:54.159
come out, not only for that group, but for other groups.
1254
01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:56.199
Think there was a there was another rat where I
1255
01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:59.079
was a big fan of, called ex Clinton and actually
1256
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:01.960
Sunny Carson and son La Mumba Carson, and I looked
1257
01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:04.039
up to this guy so bad. But there are also
1258
01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:10.440
reports of these guys, you know, manipulating sexually assaulting young women, and.
1259
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:13.880
It's it's really a shame.
1260
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:16.760
And I think we we as people in the community,
1261
01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:18.800
we as people in the media, definitely need to shine
1262
01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:20.440
a light on this. And of course, the whole Jeffrey
1263
01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:23.800
Epstein Bill Clinton thing like it goes way way bigger
1264
01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:26.239
than Africa Bambada to way more people in power, and
1265
01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:29.280
you know, and even with Donald Trump and Bill Clinton's
1266
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:32.679
friend Jeffrey Epstein, who's who's still in the news, still
1267
01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:35.440
out and about, and it wasn't his lawyer given a
1268
01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:37.920
job by the Trump administration or the guy who got
1269
01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:38.280
him off.
1270
01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:42.679
It was the prosecutor Acosta, who yeah, yeah, who was
1271
01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:43.280
it gave.
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01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:46.280
Him a sweetheart deal. What type of message is that said?
1273
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:48.599
Send a pedophiles, if you're rich, you can get.
1274
01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:48.920
Away with it.
1275
01:07:49.079 --> 01:07:50.920
And the other one who's defending Trump all the time
1276
01:07:50.960 --> 01:07:53.719
all the time is u Dershwitz.
1277
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:57.920
Exactly, And yeah, I've read the court documents. You know,
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01:07:58.039 --> 01:08:00.840
he might have sued for libel. But if anyone with
1279
01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:03.800
any type of logical eye would know, and I know Dershowitz.
1280
01:08:04.519 --> 01:08:07.119
A good friend of mine is Harvey Silverglade, who's a
1281
01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:09.440
lawyer in Cambridge, and he's actually a good friends of Dershot.
1282
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:11.519
So I was at a gala and I was sitting
1283
01:08:11.559 --> 01:08:13.760
across from dershw with I really I didn't have the
1284
01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:16.079
balls to ask him like, hey, where's that steam?
1285
01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:18.439
Like you know, like, if you're.
1286
01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:21.039
Hanging around the pedophile so much, chances are you're a pedophile.
1287
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:25.399
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Well also to you know that
1288
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:28.960
he settled that the libel lawsuit he backed out of it.
1289
01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:31.920
Oh yeah, and then he's still on the news talking
1290
01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:34.159
all the time. How do these people have any credibility? Like,
1291
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:37.760
the media is such a load of horseshit full of
1292
01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:40.520
distractions and they don't pay any attention to the real issues.
1293
01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:44.640
But getting back to this Boston bombing thing, I want
1294
01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:46.199
to answer a couple of questions too. Now, there were
1295
01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:48.359
a couple of Sauties that were injured in the bombing,
1296
01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:51.079
and the Obamas went to their hospital room in Boston
1297
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:51.680
visited them.
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01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:55.840
Yeah, yeah, And again there's more stoppan Michelle's book. If
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01:08:55.880 --> 01:08:57.720
you look at the again, it's in the walked in
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01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:01.840
Watertown area. One of the houses that Temerlin went to,
1301
01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:04.279
there's a when he when he was when he carjacked
1302
01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:07.479
the Asian guys Mercedes. The first house he went to
1303
01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:11.399
was a house filled with Chechenians in Saudi's and the
1304
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:14.680
FBI would not give any information on them. So definitely,
1305
01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:16.319
I mean, if you want to look at the axis
1306
01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:19.560
of terrorism, usually there's some Saudi Arabian behind it.
1307
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:21.359
How do we know he went to that house?
1308
01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:24.319
And you know if Prince bandar Is, you know, Prince
1309
01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:28.000
Vandar Bush, the Saudi prince is one of the founders
1310
01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:30.239
of ISIS for sure, and I'm sure he had a
1311
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:33.359
little hope from the CIA, and who knows what else
1312
01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:35.720
he was doing. It's kind of and a lot of this,
1313
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:38.640
you know, even with Trump even say hey, Qatar stopped
1314
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:40.800
funding terrorism, you know, but he's not going to tell
1315
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:42.520
that to Saudi Arabia. He's not going to tell that
1316
01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:44.720
to the UAE, because they're all doing it.
1317
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:47.720
Have you looked into the whole story of ROAs Neft?
1318
01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:51.199
Could you repress me?
1319
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:53.680
Oh okay, it's William. You know if you if you
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01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:56.000
google roast Neft r O s N e f t
1321
01:09:56.960 --> 01:10:00.760
it google auto fills roast Neft Trump, so people know
1322
01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:03.399
about it. There's a Trump connection. Supposedly Trump broke this
1323
01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:08.319
oil deal with this Russian company called Roeft, and Putin's involved,
1324
01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:11.760
the Philippines is involved. Everyone would have met at that
1325
01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:15.319
Mayflower hotel, Sessions, man of Ford, all those guys. They're
1326
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:17.960
all involved in this ross Neff deal. And it really
1327
01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:23.399
explains you understand what the whole real business what Trump
1328
01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:26.199
is doing meeting with these Russians. I mean, I mean,
1329
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:29.960
of course, and why he's punishing katark.
1330
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:32.600
Deep skate skateboarding, but it's very real. Just like the
1331
01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:35.039
Saudi Arabians give a shitload of money to the Clintons
1332
01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:37.159
because they want the Clintons to have their agenda. I'm
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01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:39.680
sure the Russians did what they can. And you know,
1334
01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:42.159
Putin does not like Hillary Clinton. She tried to assume
1335
01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:45.520
his election. There were a lot of dirty stuff going
1336
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:47.880
on in the Ukraine with the Americans funding Nazis to
1337
01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:54.199
fight against the Russian backed Ukrainians. So in terms of
1338
01:10:55.239 --> 01:10:58.319
the greater Russian context, it's there. And I'm sure Trump
1339
01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:00.199
is a smart guy. He goes through the money and
1340
01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:02.920
the fall up Communism led to a lot of new
1341
01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:06.479
billionaires in business, especially with mafia figures in Russia, and
1342
01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:08.520
it would make sense for him to follow that movie.
1343
01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:09.079
Yeah.
1344
01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:11.359
Yeah, the Clintons are up to their next in Russians too.
1345
01:11:11.399 --> 01:11:11.520
Man.
1346
01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:13.720
The Podesta brothers both worked for the Russians as well,
1347
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:16.640
So it's not like, you know, it's just the Trump
1348
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:20.520
working with Russians. But what is the story though, of
1349
01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:22.880
those sorties that the Obamas went and visited in the
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01:11:22.920 --> 01:11:24.800
hotel in the hospital.
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01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:28.640
Well, they wouldn't even admit to meeting him. I think
1352
01:11:28.760 --> 01:11:31.159
he was like briefly detained and then they said he
1353
01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:33.880
was a victim. But another one of those hush hush things,
1354
01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:38.319
And it's you know, if no one in the government
1355
01:11:38.399 --> 01:11:41.199
is going to tell the truth about it. We might
1356
01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:45.039
not know, but there was definitely an access of Saudi Arabians.
1357
01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:47.239
And the thing about Boston is that we have all
1358
01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:49.720
these nice colleges and so a lot of the rich
1359
01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:53.880
Saudi Arabians, rich Katarians, or you know, the rich Middle
1360
01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:56.720
Easterns will send their kids to school in Boston.
1361
01:11:56.920 --> 01:11:59.319
So you have a very active.
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01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:04.039
Rich out a ray being with rich Kuwaiti population operating
1363
01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:06.720
in the Boston area. And some of these people are
1364
01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:10.640
probably the kids of people who fund isis Okay?
1365
01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:12.760
Now, when you were living up there in Boston, you know,
1366
01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:14.239
you made a lot of friends and stuff like that.
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01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:17.000
After the bombing. Do you know anybody personally that was
1368
01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:18.399
actually injured in that bombing?
1369
01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:24.159
No, but I've seen people post like people's actual Facebook pages,
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01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:26.399
So I don't know. I mean, again, with the media,
1371
01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:28.560
I don't know what to trust or to the thing.
1372
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:30.960
But from all accounts, I think, you know, there was
1373
01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:34.000
some type of bombing. It might be then, and Michelle
1374
01:12:34.119 --> 01:12:37.760
was definitely right about them not making the bombs, and.
1375
01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:42.600
Well, what do you know about that? I know what
1376
01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:44.359
I read from her book, okay.
1377
01:12:44.439 --> 01:12:48.600
That and what she got from the the FBI court
1378
01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:50.920
records that in the trial they said there was no
1379
01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:53.319
way that the Saunas brothers could have made those bombs.
1380
01:12:55.159 --> 01:12:57.640
And then there was also she talked about the Daniel
1381
01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:01.520
Morley character who who had a lot of bombs in
1382
01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:04.359
his house, very similar to the ones used the Boston marathon.
1383
01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:07.239
And this is a weird guy who was also involved
1384
01:13:07.279 --> 01:13:11.159
in Occupy Wall Street before becoming a radical Muslim.
1385
01:13:12.600 --> 01:13:13.079
Very weird.
1386
01:13:14.039 --> 01:13:15.159
It could be an agent too, you.
1387
01:13:15.159 --> 01:13:17.680
Know, because it could have been someone infiltrating Occupy Wall
1388
01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:19.920
Street and then once that movement kind of faltered, you
1389
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:22.479
infiltrate the radical jihadis.
1390
01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:23.079
Yeah.
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01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:26.680
We had a couple here in Vegas, the Miller's Jared
1392
01:13:26.760 --> 01:13:28.479
I forget the woman's name, but Jared Miller and his
1393
01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:32.520
wife who first they were at Occupy Wall Street, then
1394
01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:35.560
they were at the Million Mask March, and then they
1395
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:38.039
were up at Bundy Ranch and they got kicked out
1396
01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:39.760
of Bundy Ranch. They were the ones up at Bundy
1397
01:13:39.840 --> 01:13:42.039
Ranch who started the rumor that there was going to
1398
01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:44.319
be a drone attack up at Bundy Ranch and they
1399
01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:45.119
got kicked out of there.
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01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:45.359
Wow.
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01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:47.560
Then they killed two cops here in Vegas.
1402
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:52.399
Wow, I know who you're talking about yeah, yeah, yeah, crazy.
1403
01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:55.079
Well, you know it's crazy supposed.
1404
01:13:56.960 --> 01:14:01.000
There's definitely always the government trying to be a provocateurs,
1405
01:14:02.279 --> 01:14:06.399
you know, trying to keep the the population divided and
1406
01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:09.079
conquered and whatever ways they can, and they will all
1407
01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:11.800
do it to you know, make the Black Lives Matter
1408
01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:14.279
movement look bad by shooting a cop. They'll do it
1409
01:14:14.359 --> 01:14:18.680
by making Occupy look bad, by throwing molotovs, or making
1410
01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:21.880
Antiga protests look bad by breaking all the windows.
1411
01:14:21.920 --> 01:14:25.079
It is very common thing. I think there's a good documentary.
1412
01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:28.680
About FBI guy who went kind of like Antifi or
1413
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:32.079
Occupy Wall Street and he was just egging on like
1414
01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:34.800
all these kids he met to be violent and then
1415
01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:37.560
finally they would and then he'd busts them. So and
1416
01:14:37.640 --> 01:14:39.279
that's just very common. The same thing they do with
1417
01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:43.680
the Muslims in Boston agents who egged these people on.
1418
01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:46.880
If you say, what's the Newburgh sting as an HBO
1419
01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:49.640
documentary and it really shows how like they use the
1420
01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:52.840
kind of arid Pakistani guy and they brought him into
1421
01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:55.199
a black mosque and he would just give these guys
1422
01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:58.960
money and then he would offer and he would kind
1423
01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:03.920
of provoke them to attack Jewish temples, and uh, it
1424
01:15:04.039 --> 01:15:06.399
was clearly he was the instigator of everything. And then
1425
01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:09.000
they wore the FBI would swoop down and catch these
1426
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:11.199
guys when it was actually they who created the crime.
1427
01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:13.439
You know, it makes them look like they're doing something.
1428
01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:16.399
Yeah, that's that's.
1429
01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:20.239
Another theory of bombing was that they were originally trying
1430
01:15:20.359 --> 01:15:25.600
to attack on July fourth. There's a big Boston Pops
1431
01:15:26.119 --> 01:15:30.239
festival on July fourth, and that they were originally going
1432
01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:32.279
to try and bomb that, and then for whatever reason,
1433
01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:34.239
they rushed in the bomb the Boston Marathon.
1434
01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:35.560
That's that's the theory.
1435
01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:39.399
It's so many theories going on because the outlets where
1436
01:15:39.399 --> 01:15:41.159
we get our information, the media and the government are
1437
01:15:41.199 --> 01:15:42.000
so deceitful.
1438
01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:44.920
Yeah, Trevor Arrison wrote this great book. I was just
1439
01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:47.520
trying to look it up with you. I had him
1440
01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:49.119
on the show twice man, and he's the one too.
1441
01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:51.520
He we just did a great show with him. Incredible
1442
01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:55.279
information about how the FBI went under cover at Bundy
1443
01:15:55.399 --> 01:15:59.720
Ranch as film producers, as a documentary film producers and
1444
01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:02.199
and the Bundye rich me. Half of those people up
1445
01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:03.039
there were informants.
1446
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:09.119
Yeah, it's crazy and you get that, you know, black
1447
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:09.840
power movements.
1448
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:13.399
You get that at occupying they're just it's there. It's
1449
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:16.279
such a and you know, it's all over again. They're
1450
01:16:16.319 --> 01:16:19.119
using the same playbook. They haven't changed it, just they
1451
01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:22.000
you know, they could do digital surveillance now and social media.
1452
01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:24.520
But I think it's a lot Yeah, I think it's
1453
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:24.920
a lot more.
1454
01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:25.439
It's good with.
1455
01:16:25.520 --> 01:16:27.880
Social media, Like, if someone wants to join your organization,
1456
01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:31.479
you're gonna look them up on Facebook, google them, facial recognition,
1457
01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:34.079
find out you know, as they ever did any other
1458
01:16:35.159 --> 01:16:38.000
agents or whatever. So I think, like definitely people in
1459
01:16:39.279 --> 01:16:42.359
progressive anti government movements need to be very careful about
1460
01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:43.319
who they associate with.
1461
01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:46.000
And google them. Yeah, but you know what, find out
1462
01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:46.920
their backstory.
1463
01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:49.199
Yeah, casey, I do. I was mentioning. I don't know
1464
01:16:49.199 --> 01:16:51.000
if you heard at the beginning, I do that infidelity
1465
01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:54.760
and investigation online or we catch Yeah. I got all
1466
01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:59.159
kinds of fake aged Facebook accounts and my my Space
1467
01:16:59.239 --> 01:17:02.319
and match Colm accounts, all different women and men, all
1468
01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:06.239
different ages. We got hundreds of them and their old
1469
01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:08.600
age with hundreds and thousands of friends. They all got friends,
1470
01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:10.279
you have, they were friends with each other, so.
1471
01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:13.479
You know, you could definitely tell a real account.
1472
01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:15.840
Not really, it's not hard.
1473
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:17.159
No, you can.
1474
01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:20.119
You can age these accounts and update them and make
1475
01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:20.680
them look out.
1476
01:17:21.159 --> 01:17:21.520
Let's have it.
1477
01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:22.239
Let's have a test.
1478
01:17:22.600 --> 01:17:25.039
I will mean, like, yeah, you give me three accounts
1479
01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:27.800
and one is real, and I will find a real account.
1480
01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:29.520
Okay, I'm gonna approach you and try and get a
1481
01:17:29.600 --> 01:17:30.159
date with your man.
1482
01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:33.520
I'll make the Vegas trip.
1483
01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:41.039
Yeah. Well, okay, here's what I'm gonna ask you. Okay, now,
1484
01:17:41.039 --> 01:17:42.800
because all these guys, we just did a show with
1485
01:17:42.920 --> 01:17:46.479
the Michelle on Saturday, right, and my YouTube channel got
1486
01:17:46.520 --> 01:17:49.640
totally trolled by all these folks saying that that that
1487
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:51.680
nothing that we know. There were no bombs, there were
1488
01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:53.439
no explosions. So I got that too.
1489
01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:58.079
I remember I was on Sean Stone Show and I
1490
01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:00.000
talked about the Boston bomb I was really just talking
1491
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:02.680
about my book, and then I mentioned quickly about the bombing,
1492
01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:05.800
and then I got I think there's a strong movement
1493
01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:07.800
and they might be right. I'm not saying they're wrong.
1494
01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:10.720
I'm just saying I don't know they're right. Other people
1495
01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:13.640
that believe the Boston bombing never never happened, you know,
1496
01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:16.319
false flags and Sandy Hill, that type of stuff, so.
1497
01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:19.680
You know the government probably could do it.
1498
01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:22.760
You know, you're right, and especially when you have the
1499
01:18:22.800 --> 01:18:26.079
guy who was in charge of Iran Contra is obviously,
1500
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:28.079
you know, running the show on this thing, you know, Yeah,
1501
01:18:28.119 --> 01:18:29.960
And you got to think is what.
1502
01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:33.000
They do is one of the core aspects of Iran
1503
01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:37.119
Contro was narco trafficking, and they took that from what
1504
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:39.479
they were doing in the layoffs and Cambodia after the
1505
01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:42.720
Vietnam or after during the Vietnam or with heroin and
1506
01:18:43.279 --> 01:18:45.840
funding their secret wars through heroin. So they did the
1507
01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:49.439
same thing with cocaine and Iran Contra. So with all
1508
01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:52.039
this new heroin money coming in, you're getting all these overdoses.
1509
01:18:52.079 --> 01:18:55.199
Where is this heroin money going? Who were these new
1510
01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.960
heroin billionaires? I mean, when we had the Cracker, I
1511
01:18:58.039 --> 01:18:59.880
knew who was getting rich off crack. I saw the
1512
01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:02.359
right they were driving his cars. They had changed. But
1513
01:19:02.600 --> 01:19:05.079
who's getting rich off heroin? You have the drug epidemic
1514
01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:07.439
with white people right now is worse than the crack
1515
01:19:07.479 --> 01:19:10.960
epidemic with murders and overdoses. It's worse than car crashes.
1516
01:19:11.039 --> 01:19:16.039
It is so serious, like people are dying at record rates.
1517
01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:20.520
It's the by far the biggest cars of death between Americans,
1518
01:19:20.600 --> 01:19:21.600
like fifteen to thirty.
1519
01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:24.079
Yeah, yeah, the number one heroin, Yeah, the number one.
1520
01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:27.520
Car crashes, which is way more than gungs, more than suicide.
1521
01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:30.439
Yeah, number one heroin addict right now is a single
1522
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:33.720
unwed mother, a white unwed mother.
1523
01:19:34.359 --> 01:19:37.039
But and so all this money is coming in, people
1524
01:19:37.079 --> 01:19:39.800
are buying this heroin. Where is the money going? We
1525
01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:42.000
knew where it was going during Iran Contra it was
1526
01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:45.239
going to the contras. You're at where it was going
1527
01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:47.199
in the eighties, or like I'm sure some of it
1528
01:19:47.359 --> 01:19:50.479
is going to at the Afghan CIA agents.
1529
01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:52.399
But where is the rest of it going?
1530
01:19:52.439 --> 01:19:54.960
It usually goes to fight wars when they When you
1531
01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:58.039
have a major drug epidemic, it usually coincides with a
1532
01:19:58.119 --> 01:20:02.319
major secret war. Like you had the major drug epidemic
1533
01:20:02.680 --> 01:20:07.479
in the seventies after Vietnam and the OBM being transformed
1534
01:20:07.520 --> 01:20:09.159
in from there. And in the eighties you had a
1535
01:20:09.239 --> 01:20:12.359
major crack epidemic after the cocaine was being used to
1536
01:20:12.439 --> 01:20:13.640
fund Nicaragua.
1537
01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:16.039
So with this new epidemic, where's the war?
1538
01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:18.479
But I would say, no, I'm thinking of it. It's
1539
01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:20.720
funding iceis We're funding ices and we're funding it. I
1540
01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:23.720
thought that's him because I had Michael Springman on who
1541
01:20:23.840 --> 01:20:26.319
was former State Department and he was talking about how
1542
01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:28.840
when he was being forced he was overseas in one
1543
01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:31.399
of these Arab countries and he was being forced by
1544
01:20:31.439 --> 01:20:34.920
the CIA to give visas to known al Qaeda members
1545
01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:38.399
to flying to the United States. So, yeah, it's all.
1546
01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:40.680
There, and that's I think also what happened.
1547
01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:42.640
If you read a bit of Michelle's book that you
1548
01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:45.960
kind of see there's pressure for them to get their visas,
1549
01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:48.239
for them to get immigration, for them to get citizenship,
1550
01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:51.680
when in any other situation they would be waitlisted ten
1551
01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:55.960
twenty years. So obviously there's some intelligence agency pressure on
1552
01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:59.079
immigration to rush their citizenship.
1553
01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:02.000
Have to wonder what they traded for that, and.
1554
01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:04.319
Like we had with the Iran contract, they had freeway
1555
01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:07.439
Rick Ross in this situation, you know, maybe it's not
1556
01:21:07.560 --> 01:21:10.000
just one guy that they've given all the coke to,
1557
01:21:10.079 --> 01:21:11.399
you know what I mean, you.
1558
01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:15.239
Know, it's it's it's it's it's hundreds of peoples, from
1559
01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:17.399
the big guy to the middleman, to the middleman, to
1560
01:21:17.479 --> 01:21:20.520
the middlemen, to the street corner guy to the heroin
1561
01:21:20.600 --> 01:21:22.159
addict is us.
1562
01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:24.399
Yeah, because look what happened. They gave it to Freeway
1563
01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:26.520
Rick Cross and now he's on the radio all over
1564
01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:29.840
the place. He's calling Imus in the morning. Yeah, so you.
1565
01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:30.640
Know, you separated.
1566
01:21:30.720 --> 01:21:34.399
And then it's really about the import more than the distribution.
1567
01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:36.680
They get their money off the import, so they could
1568
01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:37.800
just lay off the distribution.
1569
01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:40.239
So like a lot of the Mexicans drug lords is
1570
01:21:40.600 --> 01:21:41.479
making the big money.
1571
01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:43.119
And then you saw a bit of that fast and
1572
01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:47.520
furious and the DNA's not the d nada's connection to
1573
01:21:47.640 --> 01:21:51.880
l Chappo, it's it's it's crazy.
1574
01:21:55.399 --> 01:21:59.479
Yeah, I'm exhausted. Yeah, you know, many know it.
1575
01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:03.079
Well, I'm looking forward to hearing this and yeah, everybody
1576
01:22:03.399 --> 01:22:06.359
buy my book Inside the CIA Segul War in Jamaica.
1577
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:09.720
It's an amazing look at what went on in Jamaica
1578
01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:11.840
in the seventies as a great case study of how
1579
01:22:11.880 --> 01:22:14.880
the CIA kind of destabilizes the country and works with
1580
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:18.399
gangsters and drugs and terrorism. And also I give a
1581
01:22:18.479 --> 01:22:23.359
nice little overview of the CIA, the Bush family, Watergate,
1582
01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:28.039
Kennedy assassination, a lot of the opium trade during the
1583
01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:31.000
seventies from Southeast Asia, and I put it all together
1584
01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:33.399
and if you buy the kindle, you can not only
1585
01:22:33.479 --> 01:22:35.199
see that I'm sourcing it, but you can see all
1586
01:22:35.239 --> 01:22:38.479
my sources. And I have hundreds of WEEKI leaks, really
1587
01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:42.960
revealed cables. I have declassified documents. I have old newspapers
1588
01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:47.119
from that era. I have YouTube videos. You know, it's
1589
01:22:47.199 --> 01:22:50.000
really a really engaging experience if you buy the kindle book,
1590
01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:52.000
which is cheaper if you like reading or money.
1591
01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:54.520
Hey, you know, I don't know if you heard this,
1592
01:22:54.680 --> 01:22:57.880
but I had a Jim Hunt, who was the nephew
1593
01:22:58.039 --> 01:23:00.000
of Frank Sturgis. I had him on the show, right.
1594
01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:00.920
Yeah, I do remember that.
1595
01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:02.960
Okay, Now, then you heard when he said because I
1596
01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:04.119
had him on a couple of times. Did you hear
1597
01:23:04.159 --> 01:23:05.920
the part where he said that Frank Sturgis had his
1598
01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:09.920
own B twenty five bomber and bombed the palace. I
1599
01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:11.439
forget if he said it was Jamaica.
1600
01:23:12.119 --> 01:23:15.880
Was that was it Angola that you were saying?
1601
01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:19.399
No, this was in the Caribbean. It was either Haiti
1602
01:23:19.840 --> 01:23:20.439
or Jamaica.
1603
01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:22.680
And he I think it's probably.
1604
01:23:22.399 --> 01:23:24.960
Haiti probably never heard about it coming from Jamaica without
1605
01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:28.359
like and Haiti is very similar to Jamaica in terms
1606
01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:30.359
of what you know, CI and government agencies do.
1607
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:31.600
There's a good.
1608
01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:35.159
Documentary on Press TV on Haiti, the relationships with the
1609
01:23:35.239 --> 01:23:39.039
Clintons and kind of these cups and kind of American
1610
01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:44.640
bread politicians and how they you know, they get the
1611
01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:46.640
guys in who they want and then those guys give.
1612
01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:48.399
All the grants to the Clinton Foundation to take all
1613
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:49.399
the national resources.
1614
01:23:50.239 --> 01:23:53.199
Yeah, any money you donate to Haiti for any reason,
1615
01:23:53.239 --> 01:23:55.279
any kind of charity money, any kind of donation goes
1616
01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:58.319
to HITY goes through the i h r C, the
1617
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:03.159
International Human Rights Commission. But it's the same initials as
1618
01:24:03.239 --> 01:24:08.000
Hillary Rodham Clinton. The Clinton's run everything, right, they run Haiti.
1619
01:24:08.119 --> 01:24:11.079
Man Obama has a foundation now too, So I'm gonna
1620
01:24:11.119 --> 01:24:13.319
be very interested in what the Obama Foundation does and
1621
01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:15.479
who funds the Obama Foundation.
1622
01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:17.359
Well, you know what I found out just recently. I
1623
01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:18.920
got a source that came to me and he told
1624
01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:23.159
me that the Clinton Foundation, right when they were stealing
1625
01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:25.000
all that money, that donated money because they were going
1626
01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:27.159
to go build those little houses to save people from
1627
01:24:27.159 --> 01:24:30.720
the earthquake. And Haiti the company that was building those houses.
1628
01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:32.479
You know who was on the board of directors of
1629
01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:36.039
that company, Jeb Bush and Wesley Clark, we're both on
1630
01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:36.439
the border.
1631
01:24:36.800 --> 01:24:38.680
I think we were talking about this online crazy.
1632
01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:40.600
Oh yeah, that's right, it's probably online we're told about. Yeah,
1633
01:24:40.640 --> 01:24:43.720
And the other one was involved was Obama. Obama was
1634
01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:44.560
at their fundraising.
1635
01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:48.640
He's part of that same click. As as swaggerific and
1636
01:24:48.760 --> 01:24:49.479
charming as he is.
1637
01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:52.600
And as many rappers oh yeah, observe dances he can
1638
01:24:52.680 --> 01:24:56.079
do or basketball shots he can hit. He's still definitely
1639
01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:59.279
part of that deep state Clinton Bush axis, oh.
1640
01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:01.439
Yeah, well, oh yeah. Obama his first job out of
1641
01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:05.399
college was a business in international corporation okay.
1642
01:25:05.279 --> 01:25:09.119
Yeah front, Yeah, and yeah, and his mother worked for
1643
01:25:09.159 --> 01:25:11.640
the Ford Foundation in USA, which are a big time
1644
01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:14.560
in CI fronts. So if you if you have a
1645
01:25:14.640 --> 01:25:18.119
white woman overseas in a third world country, there's two types.
1646
01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:20.720
There's the gracious, nice hippie who wants to help.
1647
01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:23.520
The world, and then there's a CIA agent who wants
1648
01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:29.000
to change the country into America's narrative. And I mean
1649
01:25:29.079 --> 01:25:31.680
his grandfather was like some type of OSS as well.
1650
01:25:32.520 --> 01:25:36.119
And I think his mother's boyfriend, Lolo Sotero, was some
1651
01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:37.640
agent for some oil company.
1652
01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:39.319
So he definitely has all the.
1653
01:25:39.399 --> 01:25:42.439
Markings of a CIA agent. And again, like I went
1654
01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:44.560
to Columbia just like he did. I can't find any
1655
01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:46.640
mark or any record. I'm not saying he didn't go there.
1656
01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:49.319
I'm saying while he was going there, he was getting trained,
1657
01:25:49.399 --> 01:25:52.560
most likely by Zignu Brazinski, to be a CIA agent.
1658
01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:55.880
You're very interesting because they can bring up Okay Obama.
1659
01:25:55.960 --> 01:25:57.960
His paperwork's no good, his birth certific is no good.
1660
01:25:57.960 --> 01:26:00.399
All this stuff is no good. But the reason was
1661
01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:02.720
because he was CIA, and he could never come back
1662
01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:04.159
and say, well, yeah, of course I was working for
1663
01:26:04.199 --> 01:26:04.640
the CIA.
1664
01:26:05.800 --> 01:26:07.640
And that's why the bigger issue for me was always
1665
01:26:07.720 --> 01:26:10.520
the college transcripts. Like one of my first job out
1666
01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:13.279
of college, I was a substitute teacher and the first
1667
01:26:13.319 --> 01:26:15.720
thing they needed to see was my college transcripts. Right,
1668
01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:19.279
so a substitute teacher needs to show their college transcripts.
1669
01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:22.199
I don't understand why a president would hide. And it's
1670
01:26:22.319 --> 01:26:24.199
can't be that he had awful grades because he got
1671
01:26:24.239 --> 01:26:26.800
into Harvard Law. You know, you can't just not like, oh,
1672
01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:28.560
I had a one point Oh, so I don't want
1673
01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:29.680
anyone to know about my grades.
1674
01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:31.520
You got into Harvard Law, you got to have some
1675
01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:32.479
type of decent grades.
1676
01:26:32.760 --> 01:26:34.920
And you notice too Trump. You know, he was still
1677
01:26:34.960 --> 01:26:36.720
harping on the birth certificate and all kind of crap
1678
01:26:37.039 --> 01:26:40.479
until he started getting those security briefings by the intelligence.
1679
01:26:40.840 --> 01:26:42.479
That was probably the first one, that's probably the first
1680
01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:44.680
question he asked him, Hey, what about this Obama That
1681
01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:46.640
company has no birth certificate, And they said, hey, he's
1682
01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:47.199
one of us.
1683
01:26:47.199 --> 01:26:51.199
Man, Yeah, one of the candy killers.
1684
01:26:51.399 --> 01:26:56.560
Yeah right, yeah, But you didn't You don't think that
1685
01:26:56.720 --> 01:26:58.520
was stir just there in Jamaica. I think that was
1686
01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:01.439
Haiti could have been because, I mean.
1687
01:27:01.399 --> 01:27:04.439
Lewis Pasada Koreas, who was friends with Frank Sturgis, where
1688
01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:08.079
there's numerous supports of him being there. They actually bombed,
1689
01:27:08.319 --> 01:27:13.760
these Cubans bombed a plane in Jamaica. Luckily it didn't
1690
01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:17.039
kill anybody, but later they killed eighty three people on
1691
01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:19.399
that same plane. So it's very possible, you know, I
1692
01:27:19.520 --> 01:27:21.920
Howard Hunt was kind of working with these guys. I'm
1693
01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:24.079
sure Sturgis knew these guys from the Bay of Pigs days.
1694
01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:27.880
So if Louis Posada, Koreas, and Orlando Bosh were in Jamaica,
1695
01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:30.079
it's not at all far fetched to think that Frank
1696
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:31.079
Sturgis was in Jamaica.
1697
01:27:31.239 --> 01:27:34.479
The story was that he was bombing the palace because.
1698
01:27:34.279 --> 01:27:35.840
I don't know if there is a palace in Jamaica.
1699
01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:39.239
Oh, then it might have been hated because the prison
1700
01:27:39.319 --> 01:27:42.000
might have a palace. The president down there owed money
1701
01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:44.520
to the mafia, and that's how well, yeah, I'm sure
1702
01:27:44.600 --> 01:27:45.199
Frank was paying.
1703
01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:48.520
It's like a Batista thing like all these like once
1704
01:27:48.640 --> 01:27:52.399
Cuba went communists, all these other islands, they became the
1705
01:27:52.520 --> 01:27:56.199
new transport places for drugs, right, So, and then of
1706
01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:58.119
course the mob you know, I'm sure I'm sure Santo
1707
01:27:58.239 --> 01:28:01.720
trafa Conte had friends all were South America, the Caribbean
1708
01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:06.039
like Truchuillo and the Dominican Republic. Edward Siaga definitely had
1709
01:28:06.399 --> 01:28:10.119
very close Cia ties, and under his reign Jamaica became
1710
01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:12.119
a super hotbed for narco trafficking.
1711
01:28:12.199 --> 01:28:13.479
They even disgusted it.
1712
01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:17.399
During the John Kerry Iran Country drug hearings that Jamaica
1713
01:28:17.560 --> 01:28:22.279
was specifically discussed as a severe transport of narcotics where
1714
01:28:22.359 --> 01:28:23.680
Thiaga let it happen.
1715
01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:26.479
So yeah, of course, you know, a lot of these.
1716
01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:32.159
Prime ministers presidents worked with the mafia or narco traffickers,
1717
01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:35.520
both both in their own countries and also in the
1718
01:28:35.640 --> 01:28:36.239
United States.
1719
01:28:37.239 --> 01:28:39.920
Yeah, I remember in the eighties and back in New York.
1720
01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:42.119
That's most of the pot with with Jamaica is a
1721
01:28:42.199 --> 01:28:44.720
ton of Jamaican pot all the time, right, and coke
1722
01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:46.119
was coming in from Jamaica too.
1723
01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:49.880
And well, yeah, I mean it was the reason Jamaica
1724
01:28:49.920 --> 01:28:52.600
became a transfert. Obviously, it's a it's convenient because it's
1725
01:28:52.600 --> 01:28:55.880
close to the United States. It's almost equidistance between Colombia
1726
01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:58.359
and Miami. So it's a nice little job ofsspots. But
1727
01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:02.279
also because Jamaican's had been small in marijuana since the fifties,
1728
01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:06.960
they were able to discome smuggling contraband. And you know,
1729
01:29:07.039 --> 01:29:11.680
cocaine is actually cocaine is a much better buy for
1730
01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:13.479
your buck or buy for your space. You know, a
1731
01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:15.359
oounce of cocaine is going way more than an ounce
1732
01:29:15.359 --> 01:29:15.640
of a week.
1733
01:29:16.279 --> 01:29:17.880
Yeah, because because one of the ways they were doing
1734
01:29:17.880 --> 01:29:20.560
it was they would fly low. They would fly from Jamaica,
1735
01:29:20.680 --> 01:29:22.520
fly low and drop it out off the plane. You'd
1736
01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:23.840
pay them the money on the plane and then they
1737
01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:26.159
would drop it out the plane in your backyard.
1738
01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:30.159
Right now with GPS and another thing that kind of
1739
01:29:30.199 --> 01:29:34.600
went back to this Canadian mafia ring that was probably
1740
01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:36.600
involved in my friend's murder, whether that they were also
1741
01:29:36.640 --> 01:29:39.560
involved in GPS, and GPS is a great way to
1742
01:29:40.439 --> 01:29:45.479
transport drugs, you know, quietly, secretly.
1743
01:29:46.039 --> 01:29:47.920
You don't even have to waste manpower. There's no risk
1744
01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:49.359
of arrest now.
1745
01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:51.960
And then you were saying you thought it was a
1746
01:29:52.359 --> 01:29:54.800
motorcycle gangs. Did you follow up on it?
1747
01:29:55.600 --> 01:30:01.239
Yeah, well, the the uh, the same French Canadian gangster thing.
1748
01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:03.520
They were also connected to a lot of motorcycle gangs.
1749
01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:05.880
Yeah, it could be.
1750
01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:08.399
It could be the work of the Sinaloa cartel. You know,
1751
01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:12.520
sometimes these you outsource your work to another drug organization.
1752
01:30:12.680 --> 01:30:15.479
You want to have some distance. Given the brutality, it
1753
01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:18.560
seemed like something out of Mexico, not necessarily an al
1754
01:30:18.640 --> 01:30:21.199
Qaeda training scene, because al Qaeda is not the only
1755
01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:24.039
people who decabitate, torture people, like it's very common in
1756
01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:27.399
the drug world, especially in Mexico and in the Third world,
1757
01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:30.520
where you have, you know, a level of viciousness and
1758
01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:31.800
disregard for life.
1759
01:30:32.760 --> 01:30:35.920
Yeah, like those death squads they had in back in there,
1760
01:30:35.960 --> 01:30:36.520
and that's where you.
1761
01:30:36.520 --> 01:30:38.800
Get MS thirteen And it's a common thing, like you know,
1762
01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:41.680
the CIA starts a war like they did in a
1763
01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:43.720
or they bring these desk guards. You got all these
1764
01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:48.119
people scarred by war with PTSD and then they come
1765
01:30:48.159 --> 01:30:49.600
to the States and all the you.
1766
01:30:49.640 --> 01:30:51.279
Know, they're poor and all they know is violence.
1767
01:30:51.840 --> 01:30:55.039
And you know, having in Jamaica too, like in the eighties,
1768
01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:58.760
the Jamaican Shower POSSE was a big contributor to the
1769
01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:02.359
the in the crack era all over in New York, Washington,
1770
01:31:02.479 --> 01:31:05.760
d C. And Miami especially, So like whenever this, you know,
1771
01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:07.840
and that's why, that's why you have to think there
1772
01:31:07.880 --> 01:31:10.079
might be a new influx of Arabe drug dealers, because
1773
01:31:10.359 --> 01:31:12.800
not only when the CIA goes places do they bring
1774
01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:15.239
back the drugs, but they also bring back their own people.
1775
01:31:15.560 --> 01:31:18.520
That's why you had all the Cubans who came started
1776
01:31:18.880 --> 01:31:20.920
Brigade five, four to h six and went on to
1777
01:31:20.960 --> 01:31:22.159
become big players in the.
1778
01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:24.199
Drug trade and terrorists and CIA agents.
1779
01:31:24.479 --> 01:31:27.439
So it's when the CIA goes somewhere, they don't only
1780
01:31:27.479 --> 01:31:29.319
bring back the drugs, but they also bring back the
1781
01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:30.479
drug dealers and the games.
1782
01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:31.079
Yeah.
1783
01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:33.800
I just had the lawyer for you know, the boys
1784
01:31:33.880 --> 01:31:36.479
on the tracks down there in Mina, Arkansas. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1785
01:31:37.159 --> 01:31:39.680
the mother Lynn Ives, I had her lawyer on because
1786
01:31:39.680 --> 01:31:42.439
she just filed this big Foya Lasson.
1787
01:31:43.239 --> 01:31:46.600
That's really amazing that the Clintons totally avoided that because
1788
01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:49.800
if you look at Dan Lassiter, Hillary Clinton was implicated
1789
01:31:49.880 --> 01:31:50.640
and laundering.
1790
01:31:50.359 --> 01:31:50.960
His drug money.
1791
01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:54.199
Now, Dan Lassiter was battery Seal's right hand man. He
1792
01:31:54.399 --> 01:31:56.279
was the money man for battery sale and he was
1793
01:31:57.079 --> 01:31:58.800
really good friends with Bill Clinton in.
1794
01:31:58.840 --> 01:32:04.119
Front of this campaign. And eventually both him and Roger Clinton.
1795
01:32:03.840 --> 01:32:08.640
Were arrested for cocaine conspiracy, and Bill Clinton pardoned them
1796
01:32:08.680 --> 01:32:12.680
both and then went on to punish black men for
1797
01:32:12.840 --> 01:32:15.399
selling way less drugs than him than his brother and
1798
01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:18.119
his friend did for for lots of years, and the
1799
01:32:18.319 --> 01:32:21.760
instituted the crack for coke when they were actually bringing
1800
01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:24.239
in the coke that caused the crack epidemic. And then
1801
01:32:24.279 --> 01:32:26.880
you lock the people up for selling the coke that
1802
01:32:26.960 --> 01:32:27.399
you brought in.
1803
01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:30.840
I'll say you you got to read the the f
1804
01:32:30.920 --> 01:32:34.119
oy A lawsuit because it is the best summary of
1805
01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:36.000
the whole Mina and Iran contract.
1806
01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:39.520
The whole thing. Oh, Terry Reeves compromise is really amazing too. Well.
1807
01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:44.520
This is a lot shorter, though, Terry, because it's only
1808
01:32:44.520 --> 01:32:44.960
a couple of things.
1809
01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:49.000
You can use the the glossary and find out exactly
1810
01:32:49.039 --> 01:32:50.079
what you want to learn it because you know he
1811
01:32:50.239 --> 01:32:52.159
talks about some personal stuff that you might be able
1812
01:32:52.199 --> 01:32:56.600
to skip over. But the Iran concuer cocaine all over North,
1813
01:32:56.880 --> 01:33:00.720
like Felix Rodriguez, Lewis Pside of Koreas, all those guys
1814
01:33:00.840 --> 01:33:02.680
were in my book or in his book to doing
1815
01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:04.600
the same shit in the United States of America.
1816
01:33:04.840 --> 01:33:06.600
Yeah, well, they talked about there was a meeting down
1817
01:33:06.640 --> 01:33:09.520
there and mean and where Clinton was. They was apposed
1818
01:33:09.680 --> 01:33:11.640
like ten percent of all the coke money coming through,
1819
01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:13.760
but he was taking more than ten percent. And only
1820
01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:15.640
North was there at the meeting. Yeah, there were a
1821
01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:19.039
total right there. Yeah, but I feel what I was
1822
01:33:19.079 --> 01:33:19.680
going to say.
1823
01:33:21.279 --> 01:33:23.239
Did you ever read this thing where al Miller said
1824
01:33:23.239 --> 01:33:25.960
there was a meeting in Miami between I borished Oliver
1825
01:33:26.079 --> 01:33:29.079
North and Fieldix Rodriguez and all of them up, and
1826
01:33:29.199 --> 01:33:31.159
Oliver North was setting the price for a kilo.
1827
01:33:32.159 --> 01:33:34.079
They controlled the drug market so much they could be like,
1828
01:33:34.119 --> 01:33:34.600
all right.
1829
01:33:35.720 --> 01:33:38.680
We're charging fifteen thousand akilo, so everyone else is going
1830
01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:40.520
to have to match our price because they controlled that.
1831
01:33:40.600 --> 01:33:43.199
Much of the market, and they controlled so much of
1832
01:33:43.279 --> 01:33:44.960
the news media that they could put all the North
1833
01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:47.920
there on Fox News. Another criminal, that's amazing.
1834
01:33:48.039 --> 01:33:50.920
This guy is a killer, a criminal, and he's in
1835
01:33:51.079 --> 01:33:52.000
video games as a hero.
1836
01:33:52.199 --> 01:33:54.239
He's in like Call of Duty as a hero, and
1837
01:33:54.439 --> 01:33:56.920
he's on a Fox News as a war expert. This
1838
01:33:57.000 --> 01:33:59.680
guy is a lying war criminal.
1839
01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:02.600
There's also a video I drugged video these guys who
1840
01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:04.800
bum rushed all over the North book event and.
1841
01:34:07.279 --> 01:34:09.279
I started asking him questions and they started asking some
1842
01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:12.319
serious questions about you know, drug trafficking, and he goes
1843
01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:15.199
or the murder of someone, and he goes, when I
1844
01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:17.600
kill someone, I looked them in the eyes before I
1845
01:34:17.720 --> 01:34:17.920
do it.
1846
01:34:19.039 --> 01:34:21.880
Wow, you're watch it on YouTube.
1847
01:34:21.880 --> 01:34:26.239
It's pretty intense, like he's he's threatening these kids and
1848
01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:27.399
lets you know, he's killed a.
1849
01:34:27.399 --> 01:34:28.239
Lot of people before.
1850
01:34:28.560 --> 01:34:31.279
Well, Ally North came here to Vegas for this one
1851
01:34:31.319 --> 01:34:34.159
of these crisis pregnancy center.
1852
01:34:35.479 --> 01:34:35.640
You know.
1853
01:34:36.479 --> 01:34:36.640
Yeah.
1854
01:34:36.720 --> 01:34:38.119
See, he came down to speak at the event, and
1855
01:34:38.159 --> 01:34:40.039
I actually was invited. I could have went down there
1856
01:34:40.039 --> 01:34:42.239
and met him. Uh you know, I would have undercover.
1857
01:34:42.279 --> 01:34:43.560
I wouldn't ask my question.
1858
01:34:43.640 --> 01:34:47.199
He might have wound up with accidentally committing suicide after
1859
01:34:47.199 --> 01:34:48.239
the happiest day of your life.
1860
01:34:48.319 --> 01:34:50.479
No I was just gonna got my picture taken shaking
1861
01:34:50.520 --> 01:34:52.279
hands with him, and just what a look on my
1862
01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:53.520
face is all I was looking for, you.
1863
01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:54.840
Know, hilarious, hilarious.
1864
01:34:54.920 --> 01:34:57.359
But what happened was that Sunday, I'm in church with
1865
01:34:57.479 --> 01:34:59.960
my daughter and the pastor of the church starts talking
1866
01:35:00.079 --> 01:35:02.239
about what a hero Ali North is and how he
1867
01:35:02.399 --> 01:35:05.199
just met him. Oh, Mike, we've been I.
1868
01:35:05.199 --> 01:35:08.880
Mean, they use religion and such propaganda, the NFL, you know,
1869
01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:13.680
to kind of film this pro American military narrative.
1870
01:35:14.239 --> 01:35:15.479
We were ready to walk out of there.
1871
01:35:15.479 --> 01:35:17.960
And it's so great. They never lie, they always do right.
1872
01:35:18.039 --> 01:35:20.760
They're protecting us. Hey, so you mentioned other people?
1873
01:35:20.920 --> 01:35:24.119
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, So now you mentioned before MS thirteen.
1874
01:35:24.359 --> 01:35:26.039
Did you say that because you're watching this thing on
1875
01:35:26.079 --> 01:35:26.840
the news right now.
1876
01:35:28.039 --> 01:35:30.439
The Long Island thing. There was there was some crazy
1877
01:35:30.640 --> 01:35:32.920
the two girls got killed in Long Island. I was
1878
01:35:32.960 --> 01:35:34.880
thinking of moving in Long Island, and that's the biggest
1879
01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:36.880
problem about Hence then where I was thinking of moving
1880
01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:39.680
is MS thirteen. And they're in Long Island, they're in
1881
01:35:39.840 --> 01:35:43.319
newer they're really big in Virginia, and yeah, they do
1882
01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:47.159
stuff that's beyond the level of you know what American
1883
01:35:47.279 --> 01:35:50.039
tolerance for gangs. It's not just drive by shooting, just
1884
01:35:50.159 --> 01:35:53.439
hacking with machetes. It's crazy because this is the stuff
1885
01:35:53.520 --> 01:35:55.319
that the CIA brought to use outh or with the
1886
01:35:55.359 --> 01:35:55.960
death squads.
1887
01:35:56.319 --> 01:35:57.039
Now it's interesting.
1888
01:35:57.640 --> 01:35:59.399
You know, chickens are coming home the roost one more time.
1889
01:35:59.560 --> 01:36:02.000
There's a that's this Department press conference going on live
1890
01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:04.800
right now, and they're talking about how Trump is aggressively
1891
01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:08.920
working to eliminate MS thirteen gang. Now that's interesting because
1892
01:36:08.960 --> 01:36:10.640
you know, Trump is at war with the CIA, is
1893
01:36:10.800 --> 01:36:12.720
at war with all the atations agencies, and here he's
1894
01:36:12.760 --> 01:36:15.319
now he wants to eliminate I tell you, man, if
1895
01:36:15.359 --> 01:36:19.079
he's if he has the brains to you know what
1896
01:36:19.119 --> 01:36:19.600
I mean.
1897
01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:21.279
It's crazy.
1898
01:36:21.319 --> 01:36:23.920
I don't know like if Trump will, like I don't
1899
01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:26.680
want to see anyone, dad, but I think.
1900
01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:27.479
It's a possibility.
1901
01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:29.960
Like JFK pissed off the CIA and the deep state
1902
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:34.359
looking at man, Honestly, I like JFK a.
1903
01:36:34.359 --> 01:36:36.960
Lot more than I like Trump, but he's not he
1904
01:36:37.119 --> 01:36:38.359
appears not to be the d State.
1905
01:36:38.800 --> 01:36:40.680
Well yeah, I know. And but the thing about this
1906
01:36:40.840 --> 01:36:42.800
chaos going on in the West wing that can't be
1907
01:36:43.159 --> 01:36:44.880
made up, that's that's going on for real.
1908
01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:45.159
Man.
1909
01:36:45.279 --> 01:36:48.720
You know they're tweeting last night, they're tweeting about this stuff.
1910
01:36:49.680 --> 01:36:54.560
The new Communications this guy Manucci guy is threatening.
1911
01:36:54.159 --> 01:36:56.359
To call the FBI.
1912
01:36:57.880 --> 01:37:01.079
The chief of staff. You know, this is on pre history.
1913
01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:02.840
So Trump is.
1914
01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:04.680
It's a really interesting time.
1915
01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:07.560
And I think we are seeing despite you know, Trump's
1916
01:37:07.560 --> 01:37:09.239
a jerk, we don't like him, we are seeing a
1917
01:37:09.279 --> 01:37:10.239
fall of the deep state.
1918
01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:12.359
And I think they're actually they're coming out there. Like
1919
01:37:12.479 --> 01:37:14.880
deep state was only a term you'd hear on your
1920
01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:17.920
radio show or maybe even Alex Jones.
1921
01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:19.760
But now you're seeing people talk about deep state on
1922
01:37:19.880 --> 01:37:23.199
Fox News and you know, and and and the same
1923
01:37:23.239 --> 01:37:25.039
people who are doing it. Sean Hennedy was a deep
1924
01:37:25.079 --> 01:37:29.079
state champion under Bush, right, but at least he's not
1925
01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:29.960
loyal to the deep state.
1926
01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:32.399
He's loyal to parties, so his party is the deep States.
1927
01:37:34.279 --> 01:37:36.479
I think we're in interesting times and I think hopefully
1928
01:37:36.520 --> 01:37:38.840
we can have a destroy and rebuild process in America
1929
01:37:38.960 --> 01:37:39.960
where we.
1930
01:37:40.319 --> 01:37:42.600
Were deep state could fall apart, and the.
1931
01:37:42.720 --> 01:37:45.239
Lies and these people and people really think they're good
1932
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and they think, hey, you know, I love Hillary Clinton.
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She's a great feminist icon women power. Let's vote for
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her and make this world a better place. And they're
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so wrong because they're they're they're people are controlled by
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the media. They only trust media if I give people
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an ounce of proof and a recording of someone saying something,
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they don't believe me. But if MSNBC says an anonymous
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source says Casey Gay mckela is an alien, oh alien,
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because an anonymous source that. But if I give you facts, evidence, logic,
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all conspiracy theory, because they've they've they've kind of manipulated
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the media so well, even that they're doing it now
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online like Facebook is telling you what's trending. They want
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you to be distracted by these certain issues like the
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transgender man who gives a fuck? Like if I was transgender,
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Like transgenders really want to go kill people overseas? Is
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that like a big I think the issues with transgender
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is like two out of every five is homeless, Like
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you know, I don't think they're I don't know too
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many transgenders who really And it's just another.
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Distraction, another way to keep people occupied.
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Another way some people won't think about the war, another
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way people won't think about the deep state.
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And also too the thing about the transgenders is a
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You're right, it's a huge high suicide rate, drug addiction,
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of the whole things. It's life. But the thing is,
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in the military, these are mostly women that are you know,
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masculine women, you know, and so if we got women
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in the army, we kind of want masculine women in there. Yeah,
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I mean we don't want it.
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I mean, thank god, I'm too old of military age.
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But you know, if I'm blessed to have a son,
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and god forbid there's a war, I'm going to buy
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my son address and tell him to walk into the
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military office.
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Well I know, right, but they used to work that Clinger,
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you know, from Mesh. But now let me ask a
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question now, because you're saying how Trump is not part
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of the deep state, then why does he have Kissinger
1970
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sitting there in his office?
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And I don't know, why does he meet with Saudi Arabia.
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I think Pence is part of the deep state. But
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even I think in order to win the election, I
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think he knew he had to form a coalition.
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And even even when JFK. LBJ was his vice president.
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The man who washes his kind because when you have
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a government bureaucracy you can't just totally erase.
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It, so you have a lot of deep state layovers.
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I don't know why he would talk to kiss I
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don't know, like if what exactly is.
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Roger Stone telling him, if he knows what Roger Stone knows,
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which he should, right, if he's read Rogerstone's books, or
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if Roger I'm sure Roger is a very you know,
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crafty political guy, and he tells him like, listen, yeah,
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they killed JFK.
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They're funded by drug money. They're doing this.
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The way we work it is, we get the racist vote,
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we get the anti Hillary, and we get your celebrity
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and we you know what I'm saying, he's a very
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smart political person. I'm sure he's feeding Trump all this.
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So I'm pretty sure Trump knows what's going on with
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the d State and knows what a warmonger Kissinger is,
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and he knows Kissinger's Hillary Clint's mentor so if Hillary's crooked,
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where's that say about Henry?
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And Trump was such so close to he must know
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about the Yeah, he bought the yacht, not just the yacht,
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mar a Lago was built for Khog and then Trump
1998
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wound up and that's.
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Trump, like he goes where the money is with the
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Arab arms dealer have money, He's going there.
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Russia mafia has money. He's going there. He needs capital
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to keep his empire afloat.
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Did you hear the story about when Roger Stone his
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office called called me up?
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No? No, I just watched the Netflix Rogerstone documentary, which
2006
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is big, but.
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I haven't caught that.
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No. I don't know about you getting call.
2009
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Oh wait a minute, I bet you that Netflix documentary
2010
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doesn't mention how Roger Stone ran Al Sharpton's campaign, does it.
2011
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They skipped over that.
2012
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Yeah, they skip over it, man, I know they do.
2013
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Another untouchable clearly the deep state ms NBC agent anyone
2014
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on the M S n B C I thin deep state.
2015
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Yeah, Stone is un.
2016
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Is untouchable if you if you read like her books,
2017
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definitely who is.
2018
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Rachel Rachel Maddow. Yeah, yeah, she's with some Mercer guys
2019
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and Mercer's controller. Uh yeah, yeah, the same people.
2020
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But they wrote some crazy like war book, like there's
2021
01:41:50.439 --> 01:41:55.159
a lot of like CIA academia comes to like geopolitics
2022
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and and such.
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But she can't join the army now anyway.
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Uh, she's just.
2025
01:42:01.479 --> 01:42:05.520
Stone's office calls me up the day of the Trump debate, right,
2026
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it was the second debate, the one I think it
2027
01:42:07.119 --> 01:42:09.199
was October nineteenth, was on the nineteenth and for sure,
2028
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and they contacted me. They wanted, uh, Kathy O'Brien, Kathy
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O'Brien's contact information.
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I think I do remember when, yeah, when you were
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doing all the Clan interview.
2032
01:42:20.279 --> 01:42:22.840
Right, And so they contact me, and then off the
2033
01:42:22.920 --> 01:42:28.399
cuff spontaneous utterance, the guy tells me that, oh, we
2034
01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:32.119
know that Kelly an Conway is the one who linked
2035
01:42:32.520 --> 01:42:35.960
who leaked the Access Hollywood tape where he talks about
2036
01:42:35.960 --> 01:42:39.000
grabbing by the pussy. Yeah, he says, do we know
2037
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that was Kelly? We know that was Kelly.
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I mean, and because Kelly and Conway worked for Ted
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Cruise before, and of course Ted Cruise is.
2040
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Of course, of course Ted Cruse.
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You know, it was definitely tied to CIA, to his
2042
01:42:54.960 --> 01:42:58.159
father and stuff like this, a real close bush ally,
2043
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So it's you know, I wouldn't surprised me if Kelly
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on Conway was a kind of deep state spy.
2045
01:43:03.600 --> 01:43:05.680
Well that's what they said, they said, because she's CIA.
2046
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They said she was CIA.
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Huh, yeah, it's very possible yeah, yeah, but.
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It's just kind of interesting that's what's going on over
2049
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there in the morning of the debate, you know.
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Yeah, man, I mean I think and that's one thing
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01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:23.800
that that Roger knew is that alternative media is a
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01:43:23.960 --> 01:43:26.680
big deal. I think while years, you know, people read
2053
01:43:26.760 --> 01:43:30.439
roode Off, Alex Jones and some like AM talk radio,
2054
01:43:30.720 --> 01:43:34.039
but there's a lot of power and shows like yours
2055
01:43:34.279 --> 01:43:37.079
of course Alex Jones are people who kind of questioned
2056
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the government narrative. And I think that's you know, Roger
2057
01:43:39.960 --> 01:43:42.159
realized that, and you realize not only can you get
2058
01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:45.039
dirt from this world, but you can also spread dirt.
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01:43:46.720 --> 01:43:48.680
You know what though. But the thing is, we were
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01:43:48.720 --> 01:43:53.039
talking earlier too about these these YouTubers with the Boston bombing,
2061
01:43:53.079 --> 01:43:55.720
with their theories about Boston bombing. I got a feeling.
2062
01:43:55.760 --> 01:43:57.319
I got the impression that a lot of these people
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01:43:57.359 --> 01:43:59.800
are about seventy five percent of them are infiltrated.
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Just yeah, yeah, because you want to put in misinformation
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people like me, who are you know, good journalists to
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do their due diligence and do their research and you know,
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01:44:10.279 --> 01:44:12.399
come with logical conclusions so that they.
2068
01:44:12.359 --> 01:44:14.199
Can lump me in with the crazies, you know what
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01:44:14.239 --> 01:44:14.600
I'm saying.
2070
01:44:14.640 --> 01:44:16.399
So they were like, oh, anyone who doesn't believe it
2071
01:44:16.520 --> 01:44:19.000
is crazy, just like this guy who believes that the
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01:44:19.079 --> 01:44:21.600
moon landing happened in his backyard, you know, or it
2073
01:44:21.760 --> 01:44:22.039
might have.
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You know. So that's that. Yeah, that's a common tactic.
2075
01:44:26.840 --> 01:44:28.520
They thrown a lot.
2076
01:44:28.439 --> 01:44:30.880
Of disinformation with the real information to make it harder
2077
01:44:30.880 --> 01:44:34.079
for people to find out. Yeah, and with these YouTube videos,
2078
01:44:34.159 --> 01:44:36.399
like when I write my books, I'm sourcing everything. If
2079
01:44:36.439 --> 01:44:40.399
I say someone said something, you could see where I
2080
01:44:40.479 --> 01:44:42.399
got that information from. If I go on YouTube and
2081
01:44:42.439 --> 01:44:45.199
I can say, yeah, Ed Auberman told me Trump was
2082
01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:47.079
actually working for the Jamaicans and the Russians.
2083
01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:49.600
Was just you know what I'm saying, like and have
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01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:50.319
no source for it.
2085
01:44:50.359 --> 01:44:51.880
So a lot a lot of these YouTube videos, and
2086
01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:54.159
I think the reason people is is people do not
2087
01:44:54.319 --> 01:44:57.279
trust mainstream media, so they're willing to trust anything else.
2088
01:44:57.560 --> 01:44:57.760
Yeah.
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01:44:57.760 --> 01:44:59.640
But also too, if you notice on YouTube, like they
2090
01:44:59.680 --> 01:45:02.560
wrecked men videos for you because of your viewing habits,
2091
01:45:03.039 --> 01:45:05.880
So they start you off a little bit of crack here.
2092
01:45:05.920 --> 01:45:07.720
Then they get you more and more extreme and extreme
2093
01:45:07.760 --> 01:45:09.520
and extreme, But then then you believe in flat earth
2094
01:45:10.079 --> 01:45:11.359
and all this other stuff, you know.
2095
01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:14.479
Yeah, and it's a very deep rabbit hole.
2096
01:45:14.520 --> 01:45:19.640
I mean JFK assassination, some people connected to aliens and know,
2097
01:45:20.560 --> 01:45:23.399
sometimes it's just scratching the surface.
2098
01:45:23.319 --> 01:45:28.960
Is hard enough. I always I'm Leary's of theories in general,
2099
01:45:29.119 --> 01:45:33.319
like a theory is an idea that is not proven true. Well,
2100
01:45:33.359 --> 01:45:35.720
you know, so, you know, once you have facts to
2101
01:45:35.840 --> 01:45:39.479
back up the theory, then it becomes the truth. The guy.
2102
01:45:39.560 --> 01:45:43.800
The way they connected to aliens JFK is through Doug Caddy.
2103
01:45:44.359 --> 01:45:46.319
Who was There was another person too, I'm trying to
2104
01:45:46.359 --> 01:45:48.159
think of it. There was I know, Doug Caddy, Howard
2105
01:45:48.199 --> 01:45:48.960
Hunts lawyer.
2106
01:45:48.880 --> 01:45:52.439
Right right, Okay, another person who made that same connection.
2107
01:45:52.560 --> 01:45:54.479
It wasn't it wasn't just Caddy. I can't think of
2108
01:45:54.520 --> 01:45:56.399
who it is right now. I tell you something incredible.
2109
01:45:56.439 --> 01:46:01.119
Oh who was the guy? Oh my god, I can't believe.
2110
01:46:01.159 --> 01:46:03.399
I' johonna blank here. Daniel Shehan?
2111
01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:06.079
Oh yeah, Daniel Shehan did a lot of great reporting
2112
01:46:06.119 --> 01:46:08.560
on the deep state, and then he did a lot
2113
01:46:08.640 --> 01:46:11.840
of great reporting on the JFK assassination, Iman Contra, and
2114
01:46:11.960 --> 01:46:13.279
then he became an alien guy.
2115
01:46:13.520 --> 01:46:16.920
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know what, he was hooked
2116
01:46:16.960 --> 01:46:19.039
up with Mark Lane though, man, and I don't know
2117
01:46:19.439 --> 01:46:20.119
you don't like Mark.
2118
01:46:20.039 --> 01:46:23.640
Lane, Mark Lane's books, I know, uh, the Jim Jones thing.
2119
01:46:23.800 --> 01:46:24.159
Whatever.
2120
01:46:24.920 --> 01:46:27.319
I'm judging by his books and not him as a person.
2121
01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:29.479
And you know, like like I do with everything, I
2122
01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:31.720
fact check everything, I look at it, I analyze that
2123
01:46:31.760 --> 01:46:34.439
I did my logic. And he might have been an
2124
01:46:34.640 --> 01:46:37.920
unsavory character, but I think his books were really good.
2125
01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:41.239
And you know, man, I'm suspicious of amazing I think,
2126
01:46:41.439 --> 01:46:43.279
and I'm suspicious of everything everybody.
2127
01:46:43.359 --> 01:46:43.520
Man.
2128
01:46:43.560 --> 01:46:47.000
I you know, I'm a little l I mean, there are.
2129
01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:49.119
People who will give you ninety nine percent truth, but
2130
01:46:49.199 --> 01:46:53.720
it's that one percent bit of misinformation that's really their agenda.
2131
01:46:54.239 --> 01:46:56.079
But I say, I love how no matter what I
2132
01:46:56.119 --> 01:46:58.119
bring up, man, like you practically finish my sentence. You
2133
01:46:58.119 --> 01:46:59.680
don't like you already know I don't get to say.
2134
01:47:02.039 --> 01:47:02.760
A long time listening.
2135
01:47:03.399 --> 01:47:06.159
That's great, man, that's great. You listen to everything kind.
2136
01:47:06.159 --> 01:47:10.520
I'm getting nervous yet, yeah, oh boy, So what are
2137
01:47:10.520 --> 01:47:12.520
you working on next, man? Besides that Boston bombing?
2138
01:47:12.600 --> 01:47:14.399
And you know, right now, I really have about the music,
2139
01:47:14.479 --> 01:47:16.640
like I got these Mankind rappers, they're getting a lot
2140
01:47:16.720 --> 01:47:18.359
of loves and we work with them up here on
2141
01:47:18.520 --> 01:47:21.039
their song it's called nh N Word on a Horse.
2142
01:47:21.680 --> 01:47:21.840
M V.
2143
01:47:21.960 --> 01:47:24.079
Jenna is still doing good and I'm still keeping my
2144
01:47:24.239 --> 01:47:27.039
ears to the street for the Boston bomban but like again,
2145
01:47:27.079 --> 01:47:30.399
it's waiting for like a couple more pieces of information,
2146
01:47:30.600 --> 01:47:32.720
like I have like almost the whole puzzle and a
2147
01:47:32.720 --> 01:47:35.319
couple of missing pieces, so I always keep my eye
2148
01:47:35.319 --> 01:47:37.600
on on that. I'm really looking forward to what happens
2149
01:47:37.640 --> 01:47:40.640
with the JFK assassination. Documents reveal it looks like a
2150
01:47:40.680 --> 01:47:43.159
lot of it is misinformation, like the stuff about Oswald
2151
01:47:43.159 --> 01:47:46.920
being in Mexico and some interview with a KGB defector,
2152
01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:49.880
which was I can imagine what might come out of
2153
01:47:49.960 --> 01:47:52.359
them is that they're trying to pin it on Russia again,
2154
01:47:52.600 --> 01:47:54.960
because that's the only reason they would let any information
2155
01:47:55.079 --> 01:47:56.319
out is if they could deflect it.
2156
01:47:57.039 --> 01:47:59.239
So I'm really interested, and I hope a lot of
2157
01:47:59.239 --> 01:47:59.920
other people can be in.
2158
01:48:00.920 --> 01:48:03.319
I don't think anyone can understand what's going on in
2159
01:48:03.399 --> 01:48:06.600
America today if they don't understand the JFK assassination. Like
2160
01:48:06.760 --> 01:48:09.039
if you think JFK was killed by a loan gunman,
2161
01:48:09.399 --> 01:48:11.399
you have no clue what's going on in the world today.
2162
01:48:11.960 --> 01:48:15.279
Yeah, right, And it's interesting how Trump now holds the
2163
01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:17.399
key to those JFK documents.
2164
01:48:17.520 --> 01:48:20.119
Knowing again with Roger, I think I'm pretty sure he
2165
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still talks to Roger weekly.
2166
01:48:23.439 --> 01:48:24.359
Well, Roger denies.
2167
01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:26.000
It's really interesting.
2168
01:48:26.039 --> 01:48:29.479
And Trump knew what was going on when they put
2169
01:48:29.560 --> 01:48:34.079
up Rafael Cruise's picture. He played dumb, but he knew
2170
01:48:34.439 --> 01:48:39.439
exactly why Rafael Cruz was there with Oswald handing out
2171
01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:43.479
Anti tanding out Procastro literature. He knew that his father
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was a CIA agent just like Oswald, and they were
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01:48:46.319 --> 01:48:47.600
pretending to be Procastro.
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Now are wee hundred percent sure that's Cruise as father one, because.
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Listen to me. I'm a libelist person.
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If I see misinformation about me on a publication, I
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sent an email.
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To the person with the threat of libel.
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So if you say Casey gain mcallis father was a
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Disney World in nineteen eighty two, and I.
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Know he wasn't, I'll say you.
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01:49:12.199 --> 01:49:15.560
Or if they say not Disney, or if Casey mccalli's
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01:49:15.640 --> 01:49:17.800
father was a Lindenberg bomber, you know, and they say
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01:49:17.840 --> 01:49:19.880
that about me, I am going to especially a major
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01:49:19.920 --> 01:49:22.680
public casing like the National Inquirer, which has been sued
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01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:23.439
for libel before.
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01:49:23.960 --> 01:49:27.239
So if it was false, Ted.
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01:49:27.119 --> 01:49:31.560
Cruz would have should have sued for libel and probably
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got a great settlement.
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01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:37.079
You know, it's interesting that the National Inquirer libel attorneys
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01:49:37.079 --> 01:49:39.359
were the same attorneys that were representing Bill Clinton.
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Interesting.
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Well, now I think now Rogers pretty much running the
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Inquirer from the political aspect.
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01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:48.640
Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
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He's feeding them stuff.
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01:49:50.199 --> 01:49:52.319
He's anti Clinton and them. You know, the Inquirer is
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01:49:52.319 --> 01:49:54.319
one of the few pro Trump publications.
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Yeah, what do you think is going to happen with
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01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:02.119
this this new guy Manucci and the and and Rice previous.
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I give him three I give him, I give him
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01:50:04.640 --> 01:50:07.239
Ucci three months. I think he's gonna be very entertaining.
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01:50:07.520 --> 01:50:10.079
I think he's going to be confrontational. I think he's
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01:50:10.079 --> 01:50:11.920
gonna be a good bulldog for Trump. I think he's
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01:50:11.920 --> 01:50:14.279
gonna make political theater. I don't think he's gonna make
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01:50:14.279 --> 01:50:16.039
a damn difference of what's going on in the world.
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01:50:16.159 --> 01:50:19.079
I think the media are gonna love having You know,
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01:50:19.239 --> 01:50:22.359
the media loves Trump by shitting on him because they're
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getting great ratings by doing it.
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01:50:23.640 --> 01:50:24.600
So they're gonna keep it up.
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01:50:24.880 --> 01:50:28.600
They're gonna have great antagonistic moments with Carl Lucci or
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01:50:28.600 --> 01:50:31.760
whoever the next Press secretary is. And I can't really
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01:50:31.760 --> 01:50:33.840
wrap my head around previous right now, but I know,
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01:50:34.279 --> 01:50:37.640
definitely with the Russian stuff, that could be very interesting
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01:50:37.720 --> 01:50:40.720
and we could have a nice little mini Russian Watergate
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01:50:40.760 --> 01:50:43.560
trial which will be a lot of a very interesting
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01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:45.439
distraction in a way for the deep State to get
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01:50:45.439 --> 01:50:45.960
back Intower.
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01:50:46.520 --> 01:50:49.479
Yeah, because Trump does, like Felix Sator, you know, he
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01:50:49.640 --> 01:50:52.680
does have these Trump Mafia, these Trump gangster ties. Is
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01:50:52.760 --> 01:50:53.479
you can't deny it.
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01:50:54.439 --> 01:50:55.640
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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01:50:55.680 --> 01:50:58.840
I mean, I mean, obviously his ties weren't anything like
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01:50:58.960 --> 01:51:03.600
Bushes tied Noriega and the QT and CIA drug dealers
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01:51:03.640 --> 01:51:07.760
in Saudi Arabia, or Clinton's ties to Oliver North and
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01:51:07.840 --> 01:51:08.920
these drug dealers.
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01:51:09.079 --> 01:51:12.439
In Saudi Arabia and China. Like China, China tried to get.
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01:51:12.960 --> 01:51:15.800
The Clintons and power its, and I'm sure a lot
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01:51:15.800 --> 01:51:17.560
of them are Chinese gangsters. You know, these are the
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01:51:17.920 --> 01:51:19.880
powerful people coming from the communist world.
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01:51:20.079 --> 01:51:22.199
But it's interesting too, it doesn't seem like Trump's trying
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01:51:22.239 --> 01:51:25.960
to get any of the drug money. You know, doesn't
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01:51:27.479 --> 01:51:28.840
Is he making any moves on that stuff?
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01:51:28.920 --> 01:51:31.319
Is he? You know, I don't really know what's going
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01:51:31.359 --> 01:51:33.439
on in Afghanistan. I think that was one of the
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01:51:33.520 --> 01:51:34.199
reasons he won.
2237
01:51:34.319 --> 01:51:37.840
Is he actually addressed heroin in the wrong way, with
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01:51:37.960 --> 01:51:41.720
the same eighties Ronald Reagan way of stopping drugs.
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01:51:41.760 --> 01:51:42.520
But he addressed it.
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01:51:42.920 --> 01:51:45.399
He made those people who weren't that bright feel like
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01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:48.119
he could stop the heroin problem. Or Clinton totally ignored it,
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01:51:48.560 --> 01:51:52.720
focused on the liberal cities and the transgenders and this,
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01:51:52.880 --> 01:51:56.279
and meanwhile, working class white America is hit with a
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01:51:56.399 --> 01:51:59.800
fucking epidemic, killing one at every five males.
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01:52:00.960 --> 01:52:04.640
Yeah, it might be one out of every ten, but you.
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01:52:04.640 --> 01:52:07.399
Know, yeah, you know, yeah, you got to see what's
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01:52:07.399 --> 01:52:09.960
going on here in Vegas. Man, it's either metho or heroine.
2248
01:52:10.039 --> 01:52:12.199
Everyone is just so drug addicted. All these young kids men.
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01:52:12.199 --> 01:52:13.359
You're watching their lives just and you.
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01:52:13.359 --> 01:52:15.760
Know what it is, because people need jobs, they need
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01:52:15.840 --> 01:52:17.520
something to do, they need something there life.
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01:52:17.560 --> 01:52:22.840
That's what stops struggletives, not commercials, not even treatment. If
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01:52:23.239 --> 01:52:25.720
the reason a lot of people aren' drug addicts because
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01:52:25.720 --> 01:52:27.079
you gotta go to work. It's hard as you can't
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01:52:27.239 --> 01:52:28.479
you can't take caro when the work.
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01:52:28.640 --> 01:52:30.760
When you have no purpose in your life and you
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01:52:30.840 --> 01:52:32.840
have no confidence who you are, it's very easy to
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01:52:32.880 --> 01:52:35.239
become a drug addict. And when you're not doing anything
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01:52:35.319 --> 01:52:39.319
with your life. So the also one thing that's contributing
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01:52:39.479 --> 01:52:42.720
is the lack of employment. Once you have unemployment in area,
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01:52:42.720 --> 01:52:43.920
it's a lot easier to become.
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01:52:43.720 --> 01:52:44.319
In drug addicts.
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01:52:44.600 --> 01:52:44.800
Yeah.
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01:52:44.800 --> 01:52:46.479
But even if if you're in one of these slave
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01:52:46.560 --> 01:52:48.600
labor jobs, Man, we were just barely paying for the
2266
01:52:48.680 --> 01:52:50.199
roof over your head, and guess to get back and
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01:52:50.239 --> 01:52:52.840
forth to work. You know, you know what I mean.
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01:52:53.239 --> 01:52:57.840
You know, it's all sorts of great functional crackheads and
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01:52:58.000 --> 01:52:59.760
back home I use just cab drivers.
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01:53:00.079 --> 01:53:01.840
Yeah, you know that they would sell stuff.
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01:53:01.920 --> 01:53:05.439
These are functional people because they had some type of livelihood,
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01:53:07.119 --> 01:53:08.920
even even though they might have had a drug problem.
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01:53:09.159 --> 01:53:12.359
But drugs become a problem when you have low economics,
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01:53:12.800 --> 01:53:16.520
you have unemployment, and then these people know, like they
2275
01:53:16.640 --> 01:53:19.159
know they could die by taking heroin, but they're the
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01:53:19.279 --> 01:53:21.279
high is worth the risk of their life.
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01:53:21.720 --> 01:53:23.720
I tell you something else about that. It's amazing how
2278
01:53:23.800 --> 01:53:26.920
much of this drug addiction is funded by shoplifting, you know,
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01:53:27.520 --> 01:53:29.560
and they could stop that you know what I mean.
2280
01:53:31.640 --> 01:53:35.800
Of course, it's funded by prostitution, by theft, is funded
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01:53:36.079 --> 01:53:38.439
by public assistance.
2282
01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:40.760
Unfortunately, that's true too.
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01:53:40.840 --> 01:53:42.800
Yeah, but just like the shoplift, I'm talking.
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01:53:42.600 --> 01:53:46.000
About white people, not all the black talking about white people,
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01:53:46.039 --> 01:53:48.199
and public assistance are using it for heroin?
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01:53:48.359 --> 01:53:53.399
Oh no, yeah, absolutely. But you know Walmart, the amount
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01:53:53.399 --> 01:53:55.640
that gets shoplifted from Walmart on a daily basis and
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01:53:55.760 --> 01:53:58.760
brought right back in and getting cash, you know what
2289
01:53:58.760 --> 01:53:59.279
I mean, that.
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01:53:59.319 --> 01:54:01.399
They have insured too, so it's not a problem on there.
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01:54:01.520 --> 01:54:03.600
Ed Well, not only that too, but the governments already
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01:54:03.760 --> 01:54:07.119
subsidizing their employees and you know, and and and they're
2293
01:54:07.159 --> 01:54:09.760
paying no taxes. It's part of the funding. And just
2294
01:54:09.800 --> 01:54:11.640
like food stamps, you know what I mean, it funds
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01:54:11.720 --> 01:54:14.880
the agricultural business. It's it's the agriculture department. It keeps
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01:54:14.920 --> 01:54:16.920
seven to eleven in these little stores in business that
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01:54:17.039 --> 01:54:21.079
take EBT, you know, food staffs, some some neighborhoods. Man,
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01:54:21.159 --> 01:54:23.399
if you didn't have food stamps, like every little business
2299
01:54:23.439 --> 01:54:24.760
around them would be at it, but it would go
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01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:25.039
out of.
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01:54:25.039 --> 01:54:28.520
Business, gentrified.
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01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:32.079
So we're more supported by yuppies with six figure salaries
2303
01:54:32.279 --> 01:54:34.960
definitely living in the hood before you would see people
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01:54:35.079 --> 01:54:38.199
buying ships, nasty sodas all on the AVT.
2305
01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:41.039
That is so true, man, Hey, Casey Man, thank you
2306
01:54:41.159 --> 01:54:45.199
so much. Okay, keep in touch my friend, all right,
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01:54:46.800 --> 01:54:50.920
Casey game Macalla and but just Casey Gain you could
2308
01:54:50.960 --> 01:54:52.800
find them really good stuff. Man, I gotta have him
2309
01:54:52.840 --> 01:54:56.239
one more often. But it doesn't let me finish a sentence.
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01:54:57.840 --> 01:54:58.000
War.
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01:54:58.760 --> 01:55:00.479
I love them though, man, and boy he does. He
2312
01:55:00.600 --> 01:55:02.239
knows every kind of thing I'm talking about here. He
2313
01:55:02.279 --> 01:55:05.119
knows everything. I start a sentence and advantages said man,
2314
01:55:05.119 --> 01:55:10.279
A great guy. I love that stuff. So let's see
2315
01:55:10.279 --> 01:55:11.960
what tonight today. There's gonna be Saturday night. There's a
2316
01:55:12.000 --> 01:55:15.800
big shake up going on here, big mess. We're gonna
2317
01:55:15.800 --> 01:55:17.800
have to figure it out. I'm taping this Thursday morning,
2318
01:55:17.840 --> 01:55:20.399
and I'm not even taping. It's on live, so I
2319
01:55:20.520 --> 01:55:25.880
kind of screwed that up too. Hey, got a great
2320
01:55:25.920 --> 01:55:29.279
show coming up yesterday last night. I don't even know
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01:55:29.319 --> 01:55:32.359
how to do this. I have all confused. But they
2322
01:55:32.439 --> 01:55:36.840
did a show with Jeffrey Giuliano and who's the guy
2323
01:55:36.880 --> 01:55:38.760
who had all that information? By John Lennon Yoko Ono.
2324
01:55:38.800 --> 01:55:40.640
We have those tapes about their interviews he did with them.
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01:55:40.760 --> 01:55:42.079
He's gonna be doing a show for me on a
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01:55:42.159 --> 01:55:45.000
wake radio by the way, and I'll probably have him
2327
01:55:45.039 --> 01:55:47.720
here on speaker and it'll be on my YouTube channel.
2328
01:55:48.039 --> 01:55:49.920
So I know he's a little bit a little bit
2329
01:55:49.960 --> 01:55:51.399
of a little bit, you know, a little bit over
2330
01:55:51.479 --> 01:55:53.880
the top, but I'm sure after a while he'll calm down.
2331
01:55:54.239 --> 01:55:55.720
And he's got a lot of information. He knows a
2332
01:55:55.760 --> 01:55:57.399
lot of stuff. He likes to talk about nine to eleven.
2333
01:55:57.640 --> 01:56:01.079
But this guy's you know, the guy knows the Beatles
2334
01:56:01.119 --> 01:56:03.199
and the Stones and John Leonard. He knows all these
2335
01:56:24.399 --> 01:56:25.800
Oh okay, we just go off there for a second,
2336
01:56:25.840 --> 01:56:27.960
then we went back on listen. If you like tonight's show,
2337
01:56:28.880 --> 01:56:32.760
check out Oppermanreport dot com. That's where the member section is.
2338
01:56:33.800 --> 01:56:37.039
I just uploaded exclusively. You know, I tell you it
2339
01:56:37.119 --> 01:56:40.039
breaks my heart. I bust my ass, I risk my life.
2340
01:56:40.520 --> 01:56:43.319
This is no joke. I'm gonna do a whole last night.
2341
01:56:43.319 --> 01:56:46.920
I'm gonna do a whole hour on Friday night. God,
2342
01:56:47.520 --> 01:56:51.960
I can't take this anymore. But I did this interview
2343
01:56:52.800 --> 01:56:55.840
with the geologist who was there with the ground penetrating
2344
01:56:55.960 --> 01:57:01.119
radar at McMartin preschool and blockbust information first time in
2345
01:57:01.159 --> 01:57:03.039
the whole world he ever tells anybody, because they used
2346
01:57:03.079 --> 01:57:06.399
his original where he went there with his ground penetrating
2347
01:57:06.479 --> 01:57:10.760
radar and he couldn't find any tunnels or anomalies underneath
2348
01:57:10.760 --> 01:57:12.760
the ground. But they called him to the scene after
2349
01:57:12.840 --> 01:57:16.079
they raised the preschool, and he saw with his own
2350
01:57:16.159 --> 01:57:20.399
eyes a room that was dug out by hand underneath
2351
01:57:20.439 --> 01:57:23.920
the garage with steps going down to the room, which
2352
01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:25.479
is just where the kids were claiming they were taking
2353
01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:28.800
down through these tunnels. Blah blah blah, all this stuff. Okay,
2354
01:57:29.840 --> 01:57:31.920
here's the guy. No one's interviewed him before in his
2355
01:57:32.000 --> 01:57:35.600
whole life, but me, he's never seen. I got a
2356
01:57:35.640 --> 01:57:37.600
document from no one's seen before in their whole life.
2357
01:57:39.439 --> 01:57:44.880
I have a way to verify this through state government documents. Okay,
2358
01:57:44.960 --> 01:57:47.279
told me how to do it. It's in the interview everybody,
2359
01:57:47.359 --> 01:57:49.880
Okay bugging me when you're gona uloading. Okay, I uploaded
2360
01:57:49.920 --> 01:57:53.640
yesterday it's for sale two bucks on YouTube. It's for
2361
01:57:53.720 --> 01:57:56.640
sale two bucks at operadport dot com. But he didn't
2362
01:57:56.680 --> 01:58:00.479
sell one episode last night on operadport dot com out one.
2363
01:58:01.039 --> 01:58:02.960
You know, I'm doing all this work and no one
2364
01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:09.039
supports it. It's so exhausting and so discouraging, and then
2365
01:58:09.239 --> 01:58:11.640
I got to deal with this schedule change and all
2366
01:58:11.720 --> 01:58:12.119
this stuff.
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01:58:12.159 --> 01:58:12.319
You know.
2368
01:58:14.600 --> 01:58:18.079
Yeah, I don't know what to tell you, man, because
2369
01:58:18.359 --> 01:58:19.960
even like this show here, you know, and then I'm
2370
01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:22.319
gonna get trolled on YouTube. Oh he's a shill. Oh
2371
01:58:22.399 --> 01:58:26.279
he's asleep right everything, you know, I'm just so sick
2372
01:58:26.319 --> 01:58:28.880
of this. You have no idea that I'm I don't know,
2373
01:58:30.239 --> 01:58:35.720
maybe it's just Thursday morning blues or whatever, but it's
2374
01:58:35.920 --> 01:58:38.399
just beyond exhaustion. No, I got trolled this week to
2375
01:58:38.560 --> 01:58:41.760
on Twitter. I'm a dirty Jew. And all this stuff
2376
01:58:41.760 --> 01:58:44.520
about the fourteen hundred pedal arrests on the Trump is
2377
01:58:44.560 --> 01:58:47.920
a total hoax and a total myth, totally. I'll give
2378
01:58:47.920 --> 01:58:50.880
you the police numbers, you know, the spokespersons. They could
2379
01:58:50.880 --> 01:58:53.319
talk to me yourself. You know, nobody gives a damn.
2380
01:58:53.359 --> 01:58:57.319
Oh he's controlled opposition, he's a dirty Jew. Anyway, if
2381
01:58:57.359 --> 01:59:00.119
you don't think I'm a dirty Jew, or you know
2382
01:59:00.159 --> 01:59:01.560
I'm not a Jew, and you know I'm not dirty,
2383
01:59:02.600 --> 01:59:04.520
and you know I'm not controlled opposition, you know I'm
2384
01:59:04.760 --> 01:59:06.840
doing the best I can, busting my ass for you
2385
01:59:06.880 --> 01:59:09.119
each week here. You can become a member of this
2386
01:59:09.279 --> 01:59:12.840
additional content at oppermanterreport dot com in the members section,
2387
01:59:13.760 --> 01:59:15.680
or you can just go there to the archives. You know,
2388
01:59:15.760 --> 01:59:18.000
there's a special archives section where you can click. You
2389
01:59:18.039 --> 01:59:19.840
can see the description of different shows. You can buy
2390
01:59:19.880 --> 01:59:22.239
them one or two at a time two bucks, or
2391
01:59:22.279 --> 01:59:24.600
you can send a donation, or you can become a sponsor.
2392
01:59:25.159 --> 01:59:27.319
All these things you can do. You know that I
2393
01:59:27.359 --> 01:59:29.000
don't feel like I'm just wasting my time here and
2394
01:59:29.079 --> 01:59:32.239
wasting my life here from what I'm doing. So okay,
2395
01:59:32.319 --> 01:59:34.399
I'm gonna I got a whole thing. I'm gonna be
2396
01:59:34.399 --> 01:59:38.399
talking about this on Friday night, inventing myself all the
2397
01:59:38.399 --> 01:59:40.760
abuse I've taken this week. But thank you so much,
2398
01:59:40.880 --> 01:59:43.399
thank you Casey Gain, and thank you for Michelle McPhee,
2399
01:59:43.800 --> 01:59:46.640
Maximum Harm, the Sarnoff Brothers, the FBI, and the road
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01:59:46.680 --> 01:59:47.600
to the marathon bombing.
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01:59:48.600 --> 01:59:48.800
You know,