S01E10 - Golden State Warriors (Or, The One Where They Rename the Pod)

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What's out Basketball fans, Welcome back, Welcome back to the
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air up there, our basketball podcast where we talk about
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basketball in very unserious terms. I'm Antonio and I am Ali.
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Do you think our listeners are basketball fans.
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I don't know, but I think that if we tell
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them that they are, maybe they'll start to identify as such.
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Yeah.
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I think exclusively they're not basketball fans. I think that
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they are podcast fans. Yeah, maybe fans of driving or
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listening towards while they do laundry.
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Huge fans of doing laundry, and we're just capitalizing on
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the Hello, laundry fans.
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Speaking of laundry, I just flooded my house. Ha ha
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ha ha.
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Anyways, you know what, you just flooded your house and
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that means I could call you a splash brother.
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Wow, what an honor, What a terrible joke.
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Who are the splash Brothers?
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Who are the splash blothers? I call them blothers. Who
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are the splash brothers? The Splash Brothers are Steph Curry
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and Klay Thompson, And funny enough, they played for the
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Golden State Warriors, who happened to be our deep dive
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of the day.
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Well, that is such a weird coincident.
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Wow, we call that a high end tie in crazy.
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I was just saying to you off air that when
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I started doing research for this team, I just thought
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it was going to be easy. I thought I'd be
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reading about the Baron Davis Warriors and the Steph Curry
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Warriors and we'd call it a rap. And I ended
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up with like ten plus pages of information of stuff
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that I legitimately did not know, which is great.
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I love this.
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Can I tell you the first thing? Of course, did
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you know that the Golden State Warriors started in Philadelphia?
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Yes?
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I didn't know that. Did you know that before we
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started researching?
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Yes, that's crazy. Yeah, I will say it again. I
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don't do the research for for these episodes. I'm just
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bringing my natural knowledge. And here's what I know about
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the Golden State Warriors Splash Brothers, and that they started
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in Philadelphia.
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How did you know they started in Philadelphia. That's wild
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to me.
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Because they're one of the original NBA teams.
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Yeah. I knew that there was a Philadelphia team. I
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just thought the Philly team was Philly.
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No, there were only remember we were talking, there are
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only like three teams from the start that still exists
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or something, and it's Golden State Warriors, the New York Knicks,
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and and one other tanks, some other.
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Team that's wild. Okay, well they started off as the
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Philadelphia Warriors. And so my other question then was why
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are they called the Warriors? And I found out that
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the Warrior name was chosen in nineteen forty six and
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says to evoke strength and courage, referencing Native American warriors.
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And it says that at the time that they chose
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their name, there were a number of other sports teams
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that also chose names that made reference to Native Americans.
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And so you had the Cleveland Indians at the time,
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the Washington Redskins, and the Atlanta Braves, all of which
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or most of which have changed their names rightfully. So,
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but the Warriors picked well, they didn't have to change
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their name. So, yeah, the Philadelphia Warriors is.
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Somebody, is there not the sports team that's called the
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Braves deal?
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I don't know. I only knew the Atlanta Braves, n
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I don't think so. So they moved from Philadelphia to
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San Francisco in the early sixties, and then they moved
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from San Francisco to San Francisco effectively to Golden State
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to the Bay Area Oakland to Oakland in nineteen seventy one,
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so they've technically been three teams. Yes, I mean, and
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they've always kept the name of the Warriors.
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But San Francisco and Oakland is the same.
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I know it's the same place, but they listed as
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we moved.
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That's like in I mean, I don't want to ruin
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my friendships, but I spend a lot of time in Seattle,
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as you know, and I also have friends in Tacoma,
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and people from both Seattle and Tacoma are like they're
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completely different places. They're not.
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I think that's fair.
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It's it's like being in Vancouver and someone in Squamish
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being like completely different.
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It's totally different. It's like you're you're three minutes away.
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Yeah, thirty minutes away.
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Relax. Yeah. Well yeah, they they switched from San Francisco
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to Golden State to like better represent the population or
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some nonsense. But in a familiar story that I'm learning
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is happening a lot. It was also because their stadium
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was outdated and they didn't want to fix the stadium,
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so they moved the team.
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Okay, they again, they moved the team down the road instead.
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Of I know, I know what I'm saying.
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The Seattle SuperSonics move their team to Tacoma one season. Yeah,
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for one season because of the stadium thing, and that
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was fine, and.
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Then they moved them and then they moved them away
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for good. But all I'm saying is like it's it
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seems so petty that the reason you would remove an
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entire team from a city is because the stadium seats
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are the wrong color, which I don't think is that,
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but you know what I mean, Like like this, like
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they're like, oh, we don't want to pay the how
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even if it's a crazy amount of money. You guys
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are making a crazy amount of money, So we don't
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want to pay a crazy amount of money to fix
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the stadium. We're just gonna get rid of the team.
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That's insane.
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It's madness.
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It just feels so political, like it doesn't take into
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account anything, especially not love of the game people who
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watch the game.
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Yeah, well I hate that madness.
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Before we get into the slogans, we should talk about
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their mascot, Yes, because there's a weird thing with their mascot.
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I'm sure there's.
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A team there's always something.
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There's always something. There's a team called the Oklahoma City Thunder. Yes,
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the mascot for the Warriors is I gotta bring that
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up on every single enough. By the way, there was
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a great hot take yesterday from Austin Reeves who made
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the argument that Shay Gildess Alexander would widely be recognized
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as the best player in the NBA if he wasn't Canadian.
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And I thought it was such a great take. I
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just thought it was a great take.
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I was like, true, I know, but but.
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To have an NBA player calling out American media and
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American fans for a bias is so satisfying to me.
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Because he's playing crazy basketball saying that. I know, but
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you're saying it because you hate Canada. He's saying it
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because he loves SGA. He's like, he's like, don't hold
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where he's from against him. It doesn't make any sense.
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But you have to if someone's going to against.
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Him, No, he's the best player. Okay, Okay, go get
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a Josh Kiddy jersey and we'll talk. Okay. So, the
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team mascot for the Warriors is named Thunder, and he
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was a blue anthropomorphic creature. It's listed as I saw
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a picture of it, it looks so stupid. And then
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they got rid of it in two thousand and eight,
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specifically specifically when the Oklahoma City Thunder relocated so as
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to avoid confusion and now they don't have a mascot again.
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Problem that could have been solved if they just stayed
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the SuperSonics, then sure could have kept the name Thunder.
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Also also a problem that could have been avoided by
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the NBA saying, hey, Oklahoma, you can't name your team
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the Thunder because there's a mascot named Thunder. Right, like
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just odd decisions. It feels like, just name it something else.
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You guys are a new team, you could name it
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whatever you want. Yeah, And you're like, no, it has
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to be Thunder.
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I'm going to try and think of what an alternate
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name for an Oklahoma Yeah, it could be.
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Also, can you think of what would be a good
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mascot for a Golden State Warrior because they don't have
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a mascot.
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Now, like a tech bro in a pafeca that would
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be amazing perfect.
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What was that? What was that? There was that HBO
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show HBO move like TV show The Crowded Place or
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crowded room about some like some woman in the tech
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industry who committed huge fraud. Anyways, she should be their mascot.
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Perfect would really like that.
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She looks like she wears. She wears like those tall turtlenecks,
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like the Apple dude Elizabeth Holmes.
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That's it.
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She should be their mascot. Yeah, I love that. Turtle
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neck was the reference that landed. That's so good.
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Either of whom could be the thing. They have strong
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cowboy culture in Oklahoma, so they could be the They
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could have been the the Spurs, or they could have
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been as we know, they have lots of tornadoes. They
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could have been the Oklahoma City Twisters.
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Yeah, yeah, the twistiesvie ever the new one of the
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old one, the old one okay, because the new one
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was terrible.
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I didn't say it, but although I will say this,
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so good Glenn.
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Powell, Yeah, is really nice to watch.
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You like him?
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Everyone, Yeah, there's something that I like him. There's something
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really satisfying about watching him. It's not and this isn't
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even speaking about his acting, but I'm also not talking
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about the fact that he's like a crazy snack pack.
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It's not that because he is it has more. He
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just he really does have a charisma that extends itself
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past the.
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Screen, a bit of like a movie star quality.
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He's got a total movie star vibe. Like it's just
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he just I've seen him in some bad movies, because
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I watched that and I watched the one that he
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did with Sydney Sweeney. Yeah, and for those two to
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be the like the rom com couple. She is in
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that movie dead inside. She's terrible. She's terrible, she can't
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do anything to save herself. And it's not a great script.
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It's it's a clunky movie. And he just hits home
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run after home run. It's wild.
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He's a will old machine, you think.
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Yeah, Yeah, I saw him in some movie where he
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plays a guy who puts on a lot of disguises.
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That's really all I remember about it.
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That's all there is to it. And every disguise he
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put on, he actually did a great job of embodying
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the character and sort of becoming somebody different while being
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at the base who he was. And I watched it
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and I was like, no, this guy's actually really good.
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He's a little for me. I like that's fair, Like
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Adam Driver, I like somebody a bit more. Yeah, unpredictable.
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I don't disagree with that part.
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The SGA of Probablywood.
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No hurtful, hurtful? Who is Who's the real esgais Glenn Powell?
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Really it's someone who's like good but just like forgettable
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Glen Powell.
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Yeah, I don't know if he's I don't know that
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he's forgettable. I don't know. I think we're we're still
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seeing it. I think that I think SGA is closer
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to Adjacent Tatum for me, where he's like inoffensive but
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you know that he's working for it, but he's an offense.
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He's like milk toast. You're kind of like, I don't know,
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you're you're you're nice, You're nice. He's hard to hate
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but impossible to love.
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Yeah, damn, that's good.
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I feel like SGA is more divisive as this podcast
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is proving to be. To show.
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It is where where out he is showing showing these things.
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We're teaching, we're teaching, all right, what's.
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The Golden State Warrior? Is slogan?
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Great question? Great question? I found three and I don't
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think they're terrible. I don't think they're great, but I
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don't think they're terrible. They're generic. One. We believe. Okay,
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that one's terrible. That was Here's the thing that was
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a good one at the time because it was it
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was at a point in their history where actually nobody
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thought that the Warriors were shit. Everyone was like, you
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ain't shit, and so we believe became an internal statement
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of like, we know what we're worth. And then the
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team overperformed and they ended up as that was the
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Baron Davis team. He was their point guard. He was
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really good and surprising. There were a lot of guys
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on that team that are still kind of around as
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like spokesman mouthpieces, but a lot of dudes that you're like,
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I don't know who that guy is. And they beat
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the Dallas Mavericks. They were number eight seed, and I'm
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pretty sure they went to a game seven and they
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beat the Dallas Mavericks, which is wild. So we believe,
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even though it's generic. Believe. Yeah, there used to be
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a guy in Toronto just shout believe down in young
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and dumbas square. That's all I can think about every
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time I hear it. Okay, number two, this is fairly recent.
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Twenty fourteen strengthen numbers hate it? Do you hate it? Yes,
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I just think it's nothing. I don't even think it's
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hate worthy. It's so it's just like, nah, it's fine.
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Yeah, it's like a warning. It's like a local police department.
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You know, it's strengthen numbers, keep it. And then the
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last one is dub Nation.
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Yeah, dub Nation, dumb Nation.
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Yeah, and it's a simple one Nation, dub W Warriors.
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Got it cool.
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I mean I don't love it, but again, all three
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of them. I don't hate any nation.
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Yeah, Miami Anything Nation. It's not original, No, Spurs Nation,
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Raptor's Nation. I think they're all says yeah, that's true.
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As soon as I said it, you're gonna say that.
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I've never said again.
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You have Weaven North, you have one of the best ones.
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We have the best.
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I'll just be happy that you got that.
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Weird number one. Speaking of number one, this team has
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won seven championships. So they're not they're yeah, they're not
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the championship leader, but like, seven's a lot.
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It's a lot.
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And you know what's crazy about those seven is half
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of them are in our generation. That's cool, right, Four
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of the seven happened recently, and that's their dynasty with
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Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and all those dumb dumbs. Yeah,
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and then a bunch of them happened in the before times,
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like one of them from nineteen forty seven, nobody cares.
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One of them from nineteen fifty six, nobody cares. I
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think nineteen forty seven, they weren't even considered the NBA. Yeah,
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it was some other AA. Yeah, and I looked up
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who the key players were, and that was how I
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knew that I didn't have to care. Joe Falkes and
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Johnny Logan were the rivals made up. Yeah, they were plumbers.
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It doesn't matter, they're not really nineteen fifty six, Paul
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Arizon never heard of him. Nineteen seventy five, you get Rick.
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And the only reason I know Rick Berry is because
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his two sons went on to play in the NBA,
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John Barry and Brent Barry. And that's as much as
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you now know everything that I know about Rick Barry.
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So let's just skip past all of that. Their big
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championships start in twenty fifteen, So they did twenty fifteen,
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they took twenty sixteen off, they did twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
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back to back, took a few years off, and they
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did twenty twenty two. Their best player throughout most of
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it was either Steph Curry or at the time, Kevin Durant.
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Kevin Durant got two finals MVPs during that time. But
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Steph Curry is their franchise guy.
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Yeah, he's the Golden State Warriors.
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Yeah, he's it. He's the reason any of this happens.
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I guess we'll get into this a little bit in controversy,
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but when we talk about players, if we're looking at
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the modern sat Golden State Warriors, it is Stephan Curry,
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who is married to Aisha. He changed the game in
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terms of how the three ball is shot and how
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players move without the ball to get an open three pointer.
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Over the course of his years, he just got better.
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He showed up as what looked like a scrawny fourteen
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year old. I think he was nineteen, but he honestly
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looked like he was fourteen, and he was unstoppable. Even
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going back to college, he was playing for a team
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called Davidson, and he had this historic run on Davidson
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where people were like, is he a fluke? His whole
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early career, people just thought maybe he's a fluke and
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then underestimated NonStop. Other than like true believers, there were
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people who knew that he was gonna be good because
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you could see it.
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We believe.
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His dad was a famous basketball player, Del Curry, who
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was also a fantastic three point shooter. Ubay, his brother's
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a basketball player. You probably know his dad because he
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played for the Rappers. That's that's how everybody, I'm sure
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remembers him absolutely obviously. And rounding out the Steph Curry thing,
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you get Klay Thompson, who was drafted around the same
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time period. He's also a crazy shooter. Funny enough, his
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dad was also a basketball player named Michael Thompson who
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played for the Elie Lakers, and his career had like
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a decent enough longevity that at some point he played
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with Kobe. He was retiring as Kobe was coming into
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the league. But they knew each other. They were nice
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like that. And then Draymond Green generational dum dumb who
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likes to kick people in their nether regions, get a
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lot of technicals and scream a lobby. Is also a
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pretty good defender, not my favorite, insufferable starting five. And
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then they had a bunch of other players, one of
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which was Australian Andrew Bogan. I can't remember if he
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won a championship with them or not. Nobody cares. Yeah,
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we'll check the Australian News.
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Importantly, it's team I think has a lot of pop
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culture law because Steph Curry and Aisha Kari are a
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very very famous sports couple. And I think I've mentioned
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this before, but Aisha is mentioned in a lot of songs.
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Drake raps about her. How am I going to wife you?
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If you ain't Nisha enough? Somebody else sings, you know,
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I want real love? That's Stephan Nisha shit like they're famous,
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that the couple's famous, and she's very beautiful. They've been
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together since high school. And then the other half of
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the Splash Brothers, Klay Thompson, is dating Meghan the Stallion
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or Meghan the Stallion, how do.
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You say it? I don't know.
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Megan Megan Meghan the Stallion and they are having this
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very very wholesome, beautiful love story that's wild playing out
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on social media and it's very very sweet.
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But and like Kevin Durant, who was on their team
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for a hot minute for a couple those championships. Is
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probably one of the most prolific basketball tweeters that the
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world has ever seen. He just lives on his phone
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and attacks fans and Draymond Green has a podcast. So
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when you talk about the pop culture lore, yeah, like
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everybody there somehow has a stake in the media game. Sure,
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that's a little bit about the players. I think we
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got to get into the controversy. So this is this
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is where things get crazy. The first thing. And I
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remember this, but I forgot it because who cares. Back
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in the late nineties, the Warriors made the news because
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one of their star players who used to play in
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New York, Latrell Sprewell, came back to practice and choked
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his coach out. And his coach is PJ. Carlissimo, and
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there was footage of it, like you like choked him
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down for like I don't know, five ten seconds and
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then punched him in the face. I can't remember what
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it was about. There was some like some dispute over
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something dramatic. Yeah, I don't even think it was. I
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think it was like his coach was calling him a
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ball hog, like he was like, you don't pass the
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ball enough, and they got into a heated argument. Latrell
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pretty well decided to risk it all and that was
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the end of it.
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Interesting choice.
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Yeah, I think I bring it up because it also
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highlights like a pretty interesting thing that we'll hear with
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other teams where if a player and a coach disagree,
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if there's tension between a player, star player or not
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in a coach, the fallout is massive. Like it doesn't
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actually matter who the coaches, how tenured they are, it
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doesn't matter who the player is. Something is going to happen,
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like heads are going to roll, and this was a
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pretty big one. He was suspended for eighty two games,
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so it was a full season, and I think they
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turned it down later to like sixty or something. But
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he also was just irrelevant after that. And this was
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late nineties. It ruined the Warrior's reputation, right, people just
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looked at them as it was a thug. Yeah, there
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were a bunch of thugs. It was like and cry babies, right,
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Like it was a moment where the NBA actually had
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to look at player conduct into who they were gonna be. Yeah,
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I should have looked this up. I don't know what
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changed after that, if there were any pulsey or rules,
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but certainly like we're not seeing big fights like that anymore,
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not often though so slightly earlier than that, there was
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another coach versus player, different altercation, not a fight, but
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Chris Weber, who was a very famous power forward. Famously
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he was on a college basketball team that rose to
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prominence and I think won or lost lost the final
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game on a very stupid call that I think was
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his fault, and him and his coach Don Nelson got
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into it and he got this is like after he
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was Rookie of the year, he got he got traded,
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Like they had to trade their star rookie because him
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and the coach just like couldn't sort their stuff out.
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And I just think, like it's pretty wild that a
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rookie or a young player would demand off of a team. Yeah,
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a guy who is clear he was clearly going to
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be one of the better players in the league for
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a while. Great decision, yeah, and they and they traded him.
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So so if you look at that run from like
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ninety four to ninety seven, who was in charge, like
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team culture was in the toilet, which which stands and
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start contrast to the Warriors that we know now, yeah,
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what else do we have again? We have we have drama.
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In the Katie Draymond era, Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant and
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Draymond looked like where they were the best of friends,
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and then they got into a weird altercation that again
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was caught on video unfortunately, where they're screaming at each
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other and Draymond is speaking to him in a way
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that's just unacceptable, and Kevin Durant that was the end
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of it. Kevin Durant was like, deuces, I'm leading. And
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they had the opportunity at that point. They had the
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opportunity at that point to kind of stay together and
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to really dig into a dynasty, but they just couldn't
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be mature chemistry. Yeah, it's crazy, isn't that wild? Yeah,
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and no one knew they were like, I think it's
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Draymond's fault, but it might be Kevin Durant's fault. Well,
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fast forward three years and Kevin Durant punches Jordan Poole,
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who I think was either a rookie or a second
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year player, square in the eyes socket in the middle
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of practice on camera for the world to see. And
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who has to leave Jordan Poole. Draymond is blameless in that, right,
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So I don't know. I don't even know what picture
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on painting. Right, Like back in the day, this was
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a rudderless team where it looked like it looked like
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the kids were in charge. Then all of a sudden,
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they win, and winning fixes everything. But even while they
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were winning, who was in charge?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, I don't know. It's it sort of speaks to
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a really dysfunctional.
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Culture.
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Yeah, kind of like yeah, yeah, I mean culture, yeah, organization, right,
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like like the thing that people were the most angry
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about people internally. When Draymond punched Jordan Poole, a young player,
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wasn't the assault. It was that the video got leaked, right,
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It was like snitches get stitches?
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Yeah what yeah.
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Dude, what are your star players? Just assaulted one of
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your rookies.
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It's great, is it?
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No? Years later it came out and I don't know
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if this is true or not, but I like the story.
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It came out that the reason Draymond punched him is
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that Jordan Poole called him an expensive backpack in reference
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in reference to like him riding stuff's coattails. That's a
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fun what a great insult an expensive backpack. It's really
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good a so like I think expensive backpack is like
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maybe a more sanitized way of how Jordan Poole said it,
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But there must have been like because Jordan Poole is
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very funny. Yeah, he's a funny dude. But after he
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got his lights knocked out, he was a shell of
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himself for a couple of years.
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I bet that's a pretty confronting thing to happen, man.
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And embarrassing. It just sucks. Yeah, I felt I felt
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bad for that dude, which is hard to say because
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I think he's an idiot. But but he didn't deserve
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what he got and he was pretty funny, which.
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Is hard to say because I hate him.
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Yeah, he's not my guy. Ah, he's fine, He's I
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think that he is. He falls into a slim, slim
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category of players. They're not in my insufferable starting five,
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but they lack so much self awareness that they themselves
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are clowns.
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Could he be on your reserves bench for insufferable? Yeah?
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No, because he's funny.
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He's not that bad.
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Ye, It's it's it's like he's on a different starting five.
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He's like they're like the like the Town Jester. Like
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there's a guy named Lance Stevenson who I used to
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love watching. He's just an instigator. The thing that he's
488
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most famous for is guarding Lebron and coming out of
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time out, he's pressing really really close to Lebron. His
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body is like his chest is on Lebron's shoulder and
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his mouth is right next to Lebron's cheek, and he
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decides to take in a breath of air and gently
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blow it in Lebron's ears. The craziest shit you'll ever
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see see. It's crazy, but it's so funny, Like it's
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it's hard to be mad at him, Like he's a
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pretty good player, but he's insane. You have to be
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out of your mind to do that. It's just nuts
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00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:58.880
and same thing like Jordan Poole falls into a category
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with another guy who who played with LA at some
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point named Nick Nick Nick Nick. Oh my gosh, what's
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00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:09.559
his name. It'll come back to me, But he is
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00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:12.599
this nick guy whose name I can't remember. Is so
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ridiculous that he would take no look three pointers and
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miss them. So he would like run down the court,
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not call a set play, throw the ball at the
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net while the ball is in the air, turn his
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back and spread his arms out like Jesus and just
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stand there assuming the ball goes in. But it never
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00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.000
went in, and he would do this. He did this
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00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:39.759
more than once. That's like me when I play exactly,
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it's you kind of you kind of love the showmanship
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and bravado of it, but you're also like this, dude's crazy.
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That's funny. I like them.
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Yeah, I don't have a ton more.
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Really, you said you have eleven pages.
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I breezed through some of it and skipped some of it.
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Wow. Yeah, editing as you go.
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I'm editing as I go. I just didn't that we
519
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:02.559
needed to get down. You know what, you know what
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00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:06.359
takes up the most space is the championship runs that
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the Golden State Warriors went on under this like the
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Steph Curry era deserves its own show. Oh yeah, right,
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Like they had a team that is relevant actually this
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year because they went seventy three and nine. They were
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the winningest basketball team that we'd seen in a long time.
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And then they lost in the finals to Lebron after
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being up three to one. So they were up three
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games to one and they just needed one more win
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to finish it and they lost four games in a
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row or three games in a row. Really, that's bananas,
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and statistically that never happens.
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Same thing like amazing to watch though, amazing to watch
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it was.
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It was one of the best I've ever seen. It
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was for me, it was like the height of this
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generation of basketball. Yeah, every single shot you were like
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you were just hanging on it. Yeah. And then and
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then one of the other things that happens in their
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big one of their championship runs is I think this
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was their second championship. They bully their way through the
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Western Conference and the second last team they face are
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a young, upstart Oklahoma City Thunder team featuring Kevin Durant
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and Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, James Harden take them down
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to the wire and lose, and instead of doubling down
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and thinking we just got to the Western Conference finals,
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We're going to get there, Kevin Durant leaves and he
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joins the Golden State Warriors. So he leaves the team
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that lost the Warriors to join the Warriors. And because
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of that, everybody looks at Kevin Durant and says, we
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know that you have a ring. It doesn't count, which
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is a crazy take for any fan to have, but
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I get it. It's very emotional. It doesn't count.
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I mean, there are of motions involved in how you
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feel about certain people's rings and championships and whether they're
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you know, really earned or how good you should feel
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about the ring that you've got.
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Yeah, it's like the ring has has built an integrity.
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Like Steph and Clay deserve their rings, you know, yes, yeah.
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You know, and they might deserve other people's rings. That's
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the that's the crux of it, right, Like those guys
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could do it without.
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You, and that the expensive backpack.
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Without the expensive backpack. What a great what a great insult?
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Is it worth a quick mention of Steve Kerr?
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Yeah? Yeah, so Steve Kerr is their coach right now.
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Steve Kerr showed up before they won championships. Prior to that,
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the guy who was coaching the team is Mark Jackson,
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who is currently an NBA analyst. He's a fantastic coach.
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He was a really solid player. He used to play
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for Indiana. He got that team right to the precipice.
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They were so close to winning, and in a kind
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of shocking move, they fired him. He wasn't losing, he
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wasn't making bad calls, he didn't have bad like public
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or personal interpersonal relationships. He just got to let go
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because they felt like they couldn't win a championship with him.
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They brought in Steve Kerr, who was known as a
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three point shooter, So it kind of made sense that
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you were bringing him in for Steph Curry because there
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is a young Steph Curry who is clearly one of
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the He's a generational three point shooter in the making.
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And Steve Kerr has a winning pedigree. He used to
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play for the Chicago Bulls with Michael Jordan. He was
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one of the few players that, in a very famous story,
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goes toe to toe with Michael Jordan and actually like
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they come to blows and they punch each other in
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the face because things were a bit different back then,
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very different than the Jordan poole punching. By the way,
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this was like a fair fight. He didn't back down,
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and he's just an incredible competitor. And I think it
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was in his first season with them, they one. Yeah,
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I'm pretty sure it was his first season coaching them,
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they won, and since then, his coaching record has been insane.
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I don't know what the win loss on it is,
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but it's got to be in the high seventies.
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He's quite an iconic NBA coach who you tie very
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closely to one team mm hmm, Like in Miami we
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have Eric Spolstra. Yeah, I always like and you know,
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pop and different cities have different coaches who who are
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really tied to the history of the team, and I
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think Steve co with the Golden State Warriors is one.
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Yeah. It's incredible and he has not stopped coaching them.
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He got injured briefly, he hurt his back, and Luke Walton,
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son of very famous basketball player named Bill Walton, stepped
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in and became the winningest interim coach in basketball history
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without doing anything. He just had to show up and
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put his name on the thing. It was a runaway train,
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which I thought was a very funny. People were like,
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maybe they should let him coach. I was like, this
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is dumb. You guys are such casuals.
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He's just taking credit.
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Yeah. Casuals, by the way, is what we call somebody
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who has big basketball takes but doesn't really watch basketball. Casuals.
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It's an insult, but I think it's a very funny insult,
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good one. I refer to myself as a casual sometimes,
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so I don't know, I'm okay. That could have been
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the name of the podcast, The Casuals coming up next?
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Have we missed that? Which Steve Kerr. By the way,
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also you had mentioned pop that's coach Greg Popovich with
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the San Antonio Spurs. He's amazing for a number of reasons,
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least of which is basketball. He's one of the most
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outspoken political activists when it comes to sports that sports
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has ever seen. And Steve Kerr, although I don't always
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personally agree with all of his takes, is perhaps only
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second to that. He has a lot of humanity. He
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00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:11.960
doesn't rank the game above other things in the world. Right,
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Like if there's something happening in the world and he
627
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.480
has a press conference, he just doesn't really want to talk.
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About the opposite of Joe Mizzula, Joe Mizula in Boston,
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just like in press conferences, he just wants to talk
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about the basketball game. That's it, and fairly even that
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and he's just like, look, I don't know, it's basketball whatever.
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Can I'm gonna go home now? And Steve Kerr is, Yeah,
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not like that. I think was it Steve Kerr who
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when the American government withdrew funding from Harvard or standing
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up for their international students or whatever they did. Steve
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Kerr the next day wore a Harvard T shirt in
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the press conference. So yeah, he said, you know, we
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must protect our right to education, and we must protect
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our educational institutions, and universities are importan and that's why
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I'm wearing this Stasha today. Yeah, things like that.
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Even though I just said that this club has had
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00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:09.920
a pretty big stretches where you kind of look on
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the inside and you're like, who's running the show here?
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I think that in the modern era, with the exception
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of how they treat Draymond Green, because I think that
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he is a blight on their record. He's a bit
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of a stain, even though he's a fantastic defender and
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he does a lot of great things for his team
649
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.280
outside of him, I think that the way they have
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handled themselves is pretty impressive.
651
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Yeah, they're sort of a class act.
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Yes, And one of their biggest fans is Barack Obama. Yeah,
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which which is funny because Barack is from Chicago and
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yet he is I don't even think he's a Warriors fan.
655
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I think he's a Steph Curry fan.
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Yeah.
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And I think he's a Steve curR fan.
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00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:52.039
Yeah, I mean Steve Curr's a stand up guy. Steh
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Curry is a stand up guy. They as an organization,
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they seem to operate with a fair bit of grace
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and loyalty. Last week about some players being offered sort of, yeah,
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a sense of loyalty where even when they pass their prime,
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a team still retains them out of respect. Yeah, and
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we were saying that we think the only two players
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in the league right now who can garner that sort
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of respect are Lebron James wherever he may be and
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00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:26.519
Steph Curry with the Golden State Warriors because he's been
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there for his entire career. And yeah, they're just kind
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of class the organization like that.
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Yeah. Yeah, And and I think you said this last week,
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but like that that also extends to how they treat Raymond. Yeah, right,
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like I want to dump him like a Pilo trash
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on the side of the road, and the organization is
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obviously smarter than me.
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We believe that's what they say.
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Yeah, they believe in him. Yeah, and like they shouldn't,
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but you know, everyone gets fought sometimes and yet they
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do crazy. Well, listen, that's a wrap for me. I don't.
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I don't have a ton more. Here a couple of
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notable fans that don't really matter.
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Any notable fans that we care about.
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Other than Barack. I got Jessica Alba. Apparently she's a
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season ticket holder. Okay, cool, she's got a great line
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of diapers.
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Yeah apparently, yeah, honest.
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And then Guy Fieri showed up on my list and
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I and I like googled Guy Fieri Courtside Golden State
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and there's a lot of him.
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Wow.
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So I'm sure there are more notable fans because it's
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in a it's in a fairly high profilcy.
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Yeah, exactly, That's all I got. That's actually kind of
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notable for the fact that they don't have that many
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notable fans.
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Yeah, you would think that they'll listen to you longer. Yeah. Yeah.
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And I also think that, like it became so cool
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to watch them that it was hard to tell if
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someone was actually a fan of the team or they
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were not a bandwagoner.
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But like, what's happening?
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Yeah, I like papers right now?
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With okay, see, and I feel like you and I
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in recent times with Boston exactly hate Boston, but.
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Also but you can't not like this version.
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I love drumszul Or. I'm kind of like, I'm not
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a fan of Boston, I never will be, but kind
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of a fan of.
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I got apot for this version of them. And I
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think the same thing was happening there that people were like,
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how do you not love Steph Curry. It's impossible. So
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you don't have to say, I'm a Golden State fan
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to root for gold if your team is out, you
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root for Golden State.
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Yeah, easy, that's it. They're easy to to be your backup.
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In the Kevin Durant era, I think I think Kevin
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Durant going to the team changed it for a bunch
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of people where they all of a sudden felt like
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Golden State with the villains. Yeah, and that was fine.
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And then Golden State left, and then I think people
720
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look back at Golden State were like, oh, you guys
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aren't at the bad guys. It was just a weird
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media spinah. Notably, the Golden State Warriors lost to the
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twenty nineteen Toronto Raptors and it changed the NBA Wow Forever,
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Wow Dynasty.
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That is an incredible nugget of information.
726
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Scorching hot take.
727
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:08.679
What a casual?
728
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:12.079
Yeah, I don't know. I think people just people just
729
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:14.119
need to you know, we're third of these people need
730
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:16.679
to hear a little bit more about the Raptors. No
731
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:17.920
big deal, third in these nothing.
732
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:20.119
I mean, well, this is your platform to do that.
733
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:26.039
You know, I'm slowly. I'm gonna wait until we're guaranteed
734
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:28.320
something because if I talk too much now, we're gonna
735
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:31.239
start losing and that it'll be embarrassing. I don't need that.
736
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:33.119
Oh don't need this.
737
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:36.360
Yeah, wow, I can't wait for that. I can't wait
738
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for you to ramp it up.
739
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.239
It's gonna be great. You're gonna love it. I mean,
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there are some people that are saying, Okay, see.
741
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:50.039
Raptors Final that would I would literally rather watch hoping.
742
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:54.519
I'd rather go on a hype.
743
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:58.239
I will, I will get you a subscription to a
744
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:01.159
netball league past if that happens.
745
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:04.199
Yeah, that's what I'd much rather watch.
746
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:06.480
The netble. You can watch every netball.
747
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.760
Okay, Savers, Raptors.
748
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:12.119
Danne, which I did look up netball in this past
749
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:14.960
week when we weren't chatting. It's absurd.
750
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:17.800
It's basketball, but you aren't allowed it. It's not.
751
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:21.679
It feels like it feels like a crazy you know
752
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:24.480
what it feels like. You know when you watch a
753
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:28.719
nature show and you see a creature that you can
754
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:31.480
identify as kind of being five of the creatures that
755
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.880
you know, but it's one crazy creature that you don't know.
756
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:34.880
That's netball.
757
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:35.239
Yeah.
758
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:37.199
Netball feels like somebody who.
759
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.599
The echidna, which is basically a duck crossed with a beaver.
760
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:42.159
That is netball.
761
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:46.559
That's nepple. Yeah, nipple is the platypus of.
762
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:52.679
That's exactly it. When we were I got married in Cuba,
763
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:55.320
and when we were in Cuba, we went to shake
764
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:59.199
a Japanese restaurant in Cuba, as you do. It was
765
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.599
on the resort, and it was like me and like
766
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:05.440
seven of seven of our friends all around this like
767
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:10.039
one of those when the table is hot, like like
768
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:12.920
Benny Hanna style, and it was evident that they had
769
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.440
seen it on TV, but they didn't understand it. So
770
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.039
they were cooking. It was fine, nothing was good. It
771
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:21.840
was a fun show. It was silly. And then because
772
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:23.440
they knew, they knew who we were, like, we were
773
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:24.599
on the resort, and so they knew that we were
774
00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:27.840
the couple that got married, and they it was one
775
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.679
of our friends birthdays, and so they put a little
776
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.519
small cake, like three little cake pucks on top each
777
00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:37.519
other on this hot platform and they soaked it in oil.
778
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:39.840
Now you would think that it would be like cooking
779
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:43.239
oil or something. No, no, no, he had kerosene. He
780
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:45.960
soaked it in kerosene and lit it on fire, and
781
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:49.159
to all of our shocked faces, we were like what
782
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:51.519
is happening and then tried to serve it to us.
783
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:55.039
We're like, oh no, no, no, buddy, Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna.
784
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:56.440
We're just gonna try and make it through the night.
785
00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:58.760
And to me, that's netball.
786
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:03.920
I think three cakes, small cakes being little fly with
787
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:06.079
kerosene at a tape on Yuffy restaurant.
788
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.039
Somebody's trying to serve it to you being like, no, no,
789
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:11.199
that's how we do it. Like people, people talk about
790
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:13.960
netball as if it's basketball, and it's just not. It
791
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:15.519
just happens to have a net.
792
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.320
Yeah, it's it's the same. The shootings the same, and that's.
793
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:23.159
The shootings the same. I would I would say it's
794
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:26.719
as close. It's as close to basketball as soccer baseball is.
795
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:28.599
At this point, you have to stop when you catch
796
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:30.280
the ball. You're not allowed to dribble it.
797
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.239
Yeah, like frisbee. They took elements of frisbee.
798
00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:37.079
Australian girls have bad knays.
799
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:40.840
Do you, And it's just because of do the guys
800
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:41.360
play it too?
801
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:44.639
No, because of misogyny and sexism.
802
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:47.760
Amazing, it's a girl sport obviously.
803
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:48.480
Like that.
804
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.159
The other thing that really bothers me about netball because
805
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:55.840
there's no basket or not no basket, no backboard wait,
806
00:42:56.239 --> 00:42:58.760
no net like no, there's a hoop, but there's no
807
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:03.920
back Yeah. Yeah, I have terrible depth perception and so
808
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.199
the idea of throwing a ball into the air at
809
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:10.519
a floating sphere just is crazy in a way.
810
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:13.039
It's actually more impressive to play that ball than it
811
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:14.440
is to play and it possible.
812
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:18.920
I'm sure. It just doesn't look more impressive. It looks.
813
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.280
Yeah, pack which all have the positions that shoot the ball?
814
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:24.440
I'm sorry, what are those? A goal shooter and a
815
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:25.400
goal attack.
816
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:31.639
With positions? I played so I reckon Yeah my shooting.
817
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:34.599
Okay, but time out? Can we just talk about why
818
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:35.920
didn't they rebrand those names?
819
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:37.440
I think they're cool names.
820
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:39.400
Goal shooters, wing.
821
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:41.679
Defense, wing attack, goal shooter, goal attack.
822
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.159
Those are terrible, those are like those are weird, weird,
823
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:52.679
like video game commands. Shoot attack.
824
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:55.599
That's coming.
825
00:43:56.840 --> 00:44:02.760
Who would win Team USA or Team Australia netball?
826
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:05.119
They're called the Opals?
827
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.679
The what the opals? Team Australia is called the Opels?
828
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:12.119
Like like like the Gems the.
829
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:13.639
Gemstone from Australia.
830
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:17.440
Yeah, okay, Opal is an Australian.
831
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:22.440
Whether the Gemstone podcast the Male.
832
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:29.599
W D wait is it? Who is it?
833
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:31.119
Obviously America?
834
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:35.840
But they don't know the rules. They can't dribble.
835
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:41.559
Like there's a huge for whatever it's there's no physicality.
836
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:44.960
And no physicality, there's a huge adventage. The only person
837
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.199
who would be for sure good is Steph Curry.
838
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:51.199
You make a really good point, like.
839
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:54.480
I wonder if, like the best shooter on the Oples
840
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:59.480
took on an average NBA shooter on a netball net
841
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:00.320
who to win?
842
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:02.840
We have got to get this up and running.
843
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:05.519
I think this should be this year's All Star Game.
844
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.960
Somebody, yes see, someone needs to get in touch with
845
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:12.000
Adam Silver and be like this we don't need the
846
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.679
NBA Cup and this is what we need and take
847
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:16.480
the backboard off.
848
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:21.159
Yes, that would make me tune into All Star Weekend.
849
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:24.840
If I had to watch all of these guys kind
850
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:31.079
of adjacent, that would be amazing and it would be hilarious, like, Okay,
851
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:33.480
well we solved. We're just solving so many.
852
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:35.079
Problems myself as we do.
853
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:37.559
Adam Silver, I'm sure listens to the podcast. But if
854
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:39.280
he doesn't, and you're listening to the podcast, and you
855
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:40.920
know Adam Silver and you have him on speed doll,
856
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:42.440
can you just shoot him a little message for us.
857
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:44.119
Yeah, tell him to tune into this app.
858
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:46.760
Yeah, we know what's what, We know what's what. Don't
859
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:48.280
listen to the other app where we said that you
860
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:50.760
should lose your job just because if you listen to
861
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:52.360
this one, it'll fix the old one.
862
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:53.840
Yeah right.
863
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.280
Yeah. Also, I love that I just learned that oples
864
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:02.719
come from Australia. I've always wanted to know that. I've
865
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:04.639
wanted a Crystal's podcast. So here we are.
866
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.559
I mean this, and this is a podcast. I can
867
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.920
do everything. We're casuals in gemstones in basketball and all.
868
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:14.440
Of this good stuff. Well, thanks for listening, everybody, now
869
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:18.039
you know about the Golden State Warriors and the Asopuls. Yeah,
870
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:19.840
they call me as.
871
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:21.199
They call them, just the Oples. I think.
872
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.840
Also, I'm going to.
873
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:25.519
Make one of my friends. I have a friend in
874
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:29.360
Australia and she is a really really incredible sports producer
875
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:33.920
and she just finds me talking about any sport to
876
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:37.599
be so laughable. I'm going to make her listen to this,
877
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:39.400
and I just know she's going to come back and
878
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:43.679
be like, all, Leaf, that's not what they're called. You've
879
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:44.360
made that up.
880
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:51.880
That's good. Well they could have been the Golden State Warriors,
881
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:53.519
I mean the Golden State Obles. Yeah, that would have
882
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:53.800
been nice.
883
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:54.519
That's a nice name.
884
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:57.559
I like that, Golden State Oples, the Golden State Obles.
885
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.599
That's weird. It doesn't roll off the time. All right,
886
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:05.599
Well that's enough of that. Join us next week for
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00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:11.840
something else, Join us next time. This is gonna be great.
888
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:14.719
We're just hitting our stride. Everybody, Thanks for tuning in
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00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:19.440
and heads up. Christmas is a certain number of days
890
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:21.840
away depending on when you listen to this. It could
891
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.920
be tomorrow, today, yesterday, seven days from now, who knows.
892
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:26.719
It all depends on when you listen to this episode.
893
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:32.280
But please know that there are five games on Christmas Day.
894
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:35.440
Four of them are great. One of them is gonna suck,
895
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.840
so don't watch the one that sucks. Even though that
896
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:40.880
one is gonna be Golden State's Golden State versus Dallas,
897
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:42.840
it's gonna be terrible. Don't watch that game. But there
898
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:44.599
are some other games that are gonna be awesome. The
899
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:48.679
Spurs play Okay, see cool little rivalry. The Knicks are
900
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:52.280
playing against a team that I've now instantly forgotten who
901
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:56.559
they are, Oh, Cleveland Cavaliers. That'll be a fun one
902
00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:59.199
to watch. And later on in the day, the Houston
903
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:01.800
Rockets are playing. Did they play the Lakers?
904
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:04.880
Is that the yes, the Lakers? Well done.
905
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:06.679
Houston Rockets play the Lakers, that would be that'll be
906
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.079
a good one. And then the last game of the day,
907
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:12.960
the Denver Nuggets take on the Minnesota Timberwolves, which also
908
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:14.800
might be a fun one to watch. My money is
909
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:16.840
on Lakers Rockets as the fun one. So if you're
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00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.599
gonna pick one, if for some reason you have other
911
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:21.679
plans that day, that would be the game that I
912
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:24.039
would say, tune into the last ten minutes of Antonio.
913
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.800
You should be on ESPN That was incredible, raycl well done.
914
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:30.960
Hey thanks, hey, thanks all right. Well, signing off from
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00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:35.719
my desk at ESPN, I'm Antonio. This was the air
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up there. Alter your name The Casuals Podcast