10 Things We Learned Watching Indiana's Win Over Nebraska

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Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony Gerderman,
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here as always with Tom Orton. How's it going?
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Tony, we get to do one of our favorite things,
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which is re-watching the upcoming Ohio State opponents' previous games
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to see what we can learn from them. And for
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this one, we have the honor of watching the most
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inevitable finish of any college football game ever. We watched
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about halftime of the Indiana-Nebraska game in the press box
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at Ohio Stadium because Ohio State for once was not
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playing on Big Noon and Indiana and Nebraska worked. And
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right before halftime, Nebraska has this golden opportunity to go
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up by two touchdowns on Nebraska and fails to not
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only score a touchdown, fails to kick a field goal even.
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And I think you and I might have simultaneously turned
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to each other and said, well, the good news is
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that certainly won't come back to haunt them, so it
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should be fine.
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Yeah, and then Nebraska gets a touchdown in the fourth
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quarter to take a 17-6 lead. And you're like, well,
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everybody can do this math. And this is, I think
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a lot of people at that point, even maybe even
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Vegas said, well, this is still going to be a,
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you know, Indiana minus three or whatever, but Indiana scores
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14 points in the final 12 minutes to win the
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game 20 to 17. And Tom, as I'm just, you know, we,
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we watched some of it, as you said, in the
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press box, but just as I'm before I watch rewatch
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any game, I'll open up the box score and I'll
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run through all of the, you know, everything, the, the
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stats and the drive charts and all of this. And, Tom,
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my first question was, how did Nebraska lose?
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You know, they're really good at this one specific thing.
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It is Nebraska football is just one weird trick for
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losing games that they should not lose. And man, oh man,
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it was, it was as perfectly set up as it
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possibly could. And they score, they go 17 to six.
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And then the first play after that, the first play,
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Indiana just long touchdown and just just twice. Indiana got
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burned by, or Nebraska got burned by not having safeties
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back and being too aggressive and two separate long touchdown
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passes to Nick Marsh. And that was it. That was
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all it took. And then, man, but Nebraska, holy smokes,
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Nebraska put on an absolute PhD level clinic on all
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the different ways you can screw up just like, Oh,
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just this little one stupid thing. Oh, we, we missed
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up this one little, Oh, a penalty to extend a drive. Oh,
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just didn't, didn't catch this pass. Oh, it just, and
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just finding ways to lose the game. They bought, they
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had first and 10, they're driving and they just botch
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a snap. And now it's second and 27 and the
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drive is dead. It's just absolutely brutal. And, and they,
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you know, I mean, Indiana did what Indiana did.
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It does.
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And Nebraska did what Nebraska does. And the wild thing
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is I'm so old, and so old is literally three
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years ago, that I remember when this was Indiana. Like
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Bill Lynch throwing his chewing gum. Like Indiana used to
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lose these games all the time, and now they just don't.
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Yeah, it's funny. So Nebraska takes that 17-6 lead, and
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Gus Johnson says, how does Indiana respond going into the
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wind one play later? They respond with a 75-yard RPO
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for a touchdown. That's how Gus– that's how they respond
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going into the wind. They throw a pass to Andrew–
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not Andrew Marsh. You know, the other Marsh. Nick Marsh.
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Nick Marsh. And he catches it and goes. And then
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they do it again. And, you know, as I'm watching this,
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one of my other notes is like, Anthony Calandria, Nebraska quarterback,
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is very mobile, running all over the place. which tells
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me like none of this applies, almost none of this
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applies to Ohio State because Julian Sands is not going
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to be running around like Anthony Calandria is. So you
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got to look for the plays where like Calandria is
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just standing in the pocket or maybe steps up and
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finds somewhere to throw. And I thought there were some
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places to throw, but you look and Nebraska rushes for
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177 yards. Now they gave 48 of those, 49 of
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those yards back mostly from Calandria and half of those
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being sacks and half just him running around getting tackled.
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But the running backs for Nebraska, only a long of 13.
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Ohio State, when you're watching this, Tom, are you thinking,
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I don't think Ohio State could run against Indiana? Because
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that's not what I got from watching this.
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No, I think, well, and let's preface this whole conversation with,
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We don't know who Ohio State's offensive line is going
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to be next week, and we don't know how healthy
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a bunch of guys in Ohio State's offensive line are
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going to be next week. So assuming Ohio State has
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some semblance of its normal offensive line, I think Ohio
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State can run the ball against Indiana at least decently.
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I don't think they're ripping off seven yards a carry
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or anything like that, but I think they can run
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for four yards a carry, four and some change, something
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like that. You get the sense that Indiana might not
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be quite as good in the trenches as they were
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last year. I think I have questions about Indiana's defensive line.
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I have some questions about Indiana's secondary, the linebackers. The
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linebackers are still really good. I have no questions. And
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that feels like that's where, yeah, you're getting four yards.
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You're not getting 20 because the linebackers are there. You're
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getting guys down to the ground. But the lines, really
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the lines on both sides of the ball, just they're not,
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I don't think they're quite as good as they were
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a year ago, even though you've got several of the
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same guys. Mario Landino is a guy who you don't
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see defensive tackles and have them be the guys who
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jump out to you very often on a defensive line,
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but he was just a difference maker. Sometimes it's just
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knocking down a pass. Sometimes it's getting pressure, but he
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was a real difference maker for Indiana in the interior
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of the defensive line. Stephen Daly, I Did you watch
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this game and think, I wonder if Stephen Daly is
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100% back to what he was the last time we
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saw him? Because the last time we saw Stephen Daly
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was in Lucas Oil Stadium at the Big Ten Championship game.
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And he played a phenomenal game in that game and
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then got hurt celebrating after the game. And I don't
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know that he's 100% of what he was before that injury.
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Yeah, I don't think so either.
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I think.
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he had two sacks in this one. I think at
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least one of them was Anthony Calandria basically running back
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to him on, you know, just coverage sacks kind of thing.
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And Landino is interesting because it seemed like he only
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had three tackles, but he had, his impact was bigger
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than that in this one, which is going to happen
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for a defensive tackle. And last year we watched four
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or five Indiana games and just constantly raving about the
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linebackers and they're still really, really darn good. And, one
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of my favorite parts of this game was Nebraska running back, uh, uh,
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rule hitting Elijah Hardy, like running through him. And then
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like maybe the very next play rule catches a pass
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and Isaiah Jones, the other outstanding linebacker smashes into him
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and kind of just a little bit of payback there.
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So not only are the linebackers good, they watch out
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for each other. It's a true cohesive team and a
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true cohesive room there. Uh, for those guys. I'm with
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you on the secondary though. You know, they, they made
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a point to talk about Jamari sharp moving to the
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boundary from the field corner where, you know, he was,
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he clinched the national championship for them against Miami last
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year with the interception. But yeah, I think they, they
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missed D'Angelo ponds breaking news there. Cause that dude was awesome.
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And it's sharp is not that same kind of guy. He's,
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he's good. Amari Farrell safety. We've talked about him before.
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I don't know that there's anybody there that you're like,
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stay away from that guy. Certainly don't throw them the ball,
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but also like you're not, I don't, I don't think
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you're necessarily concerned about, well, he's on Jeremiah. So let's,
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you know, let's see what, let's check the other side
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of the field.
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Yeah. And we should preface all of our conversation about
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the passing on both sides of the ball with the
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fact that it was incredibly windy. So, I don't want
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to take too much out of what either the pass
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offense or pass defense looked like because the wind was
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going about 35 miles an hour, and you could tell.
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It was blowing end-to-end on the stadium, and you could
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tell who had the wind and who didn't have the
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wind because there were a couple throws that I start typing,
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nice back shoulder, and I'm.
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Like, was it?
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Or was it just into the wind, and it was
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unintentional back shoulder? Felt like there were a couple of
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those over the course of the game. But, yeah, Jamari
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Sharp is a guy who he had an interception, But
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he had an interception on a ball where I think
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the quarterback got hit and it just kind of floated
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a little bit. But there were a couple times that
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you saw him in the vicinity of guys who were
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catching the ball. And I don't know the individual assignments
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in each of those plays, but he was you know,
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he was kind of adjacent to a number of a
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number of completions. It just feels like, and I think
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you saw Bryant Haynes, the defensive coordinator for Indiana sort
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of adjust to the fact that his secondary wasn't holding up.
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Cause you saw a lot more pressure. They were doing
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some twisting and stunting earlier later in the game. It
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was just all right, blitzing time. And it was not
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just blitz on third and long. It was first and
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10 and, You're bringing five guys. Not always, but it
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felt like he was calling the defense a little like
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a guy who didn't trust his secondary to hold up
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if the quarterback had time in the pocket a little bit.
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Yeah, and just watching them overall, clearly they've got some pieces,
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but they don't mesh as well, I think, as they
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did last year. And I thought Nebraska did some good
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things on the edges, and maybe they looked faster than
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Indiana's defense, certainly the front's. they're getting to the edge
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and Nebraska getting some yards there. And I wonder how
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much east-west stuff we'll see from Ohio State because it
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was somewhat effective in this game for Nebraska. The Indiana offense,
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the wind is a great point because that was certainly
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an issue. And Indiana was one for 10 on third downs,
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one of one on fourth down. Again, that's one of
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the stats I see. You're one of 10 and Nebraska's
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10 of 19. How does Nebraska lose? But One of
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the points here, and later in the game, you have
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Indiana has a fourth and one from their own 35.
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They punt. If Kurt Cignetti is confident about his offensive
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line and the running game, I don't think he would punt.
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And the running game, surprisingly, was stifled in this one.
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65 yards rushing, 22 attempts. They got shut down very,
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very well. And so... like it's crazy to say, well,
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normally Kurt Cignetti would have, would have gone for it
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from his own 35 on a fourth and one, but
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I feel like normally he would. And there's just, he
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just wasn't, he's like, no. And there was a couple
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of times where he changed his mind on some fourth
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down stuff that makes you think like, maybe he also
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has some of these same questions about the offense and
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maybe also the defense.
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And, you know, we keep talking about all this stuff.
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It's like, boy, it's not as good as it was
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last year. Well, yes, they were 15-0 national champions last year.
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This is every time Ohio State wins the national championship,
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we have kind of the same conversation. You know, 2024
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to 2025, guess what we were saying? Well, they're not
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as good as they were last year. Because guess what?
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You had a lot of, like, really unique players. You know,
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Josh Hoover is a perfectly good quarterback. Josh Hoover might
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be the second or third best Indiana quarterback since Antoine Randall-Elm.
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but he's not Fernando Mendoza. So that's a, you know,
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it's going to be a little bit of a step
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back there. D'Angelo Pons, it's a little bit of a
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step back there. You have guys who they, who were,
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I mean, guys who just played better than you could
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ever remember a guy at that position playing at Indiana
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last year. And a lot of those guys are gone.
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So they've filled those spots pretty well. I think this
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is more of a 2024 Indiana team than a 2025
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Indiana team. at least based on the one game that
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I've seen and then a little bit of the Northwestern
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game that I watched when it was happening, it feels
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like this is a little bit of a step back
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from last year's team. This year's Ohio State team, it's also,
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this is a step back from the 2024 and even
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the 2024 Ohio State team on the whole, the 2025
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Ohio State defense, it's a step back. So this is
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not me saying, Ohio State's going to win by 17 points. Nope,
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not at all. But watching this game, I think I
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came into this game, having watched Ohio State, obviously every
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play of Ohio State all season. And knowing what the
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status of Ohio State's offensive line is at the moment,
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I thought I am absolutely picking Indiana. And then you
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watch this game and it's like, I could probably talk
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myself into picking Ohio State. I don't know. We'll see
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what we do. But one thing that if I do
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pick Indiana, Tony, I'm going to just read you directly
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from my notes here. Charlie Becker, colon, yup. Just like, yep,
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same guy he was last year doing all of the
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Charlie Becker stuff. and he is you know he's not
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jeremiah smith but you see him doing some of the
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stuff that jeremiah smith does in terms of like the
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one-handed catch reach behind him and you know and getting
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open down the sidelines and running good routes and and
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he is really really good and then you have nick
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marsh on the other side from him nick marsh is
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a very very talented wide receiver as well and he
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was he was the guy who scored both of the
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long touchdowns late in the game One of them, he was,
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I mean, literally hand-wavingly open. He is waving his hands
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because Nebraska has just decided, nope, that guy is not
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going to, I'm pretty sure he was an ineligible receiver.
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So it's probably fine. And then he's just, you know,
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he's off to the races on two long touchdowns. So
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there are certainly areas where I look and I go,
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we'll see how Indiana can, you know, Indiana will probably
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have some advantages in some areas in the field, but
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I just I keep coming back to how well can
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Ohio State protect Julian Sane? Because I think Ohio State
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can throw the ball on Indiana if Julian Sane has time.
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But I think I remember saying the same thing before
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the Big Ten championship game last year.
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Yeah, I think it's a similar question for both teams.
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How well can they protect the quarterback? Because if they
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can do that, then they've got the receivers to make
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things happen. And, you know, it's interesting. Nick Marsh, he's big, strong, 6'3, 210.
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Charlie Becker, 6'4, 210. Becker this year, 30 catches for
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529 yards. Nick Marsh, 29 for 528. So it's a 1A, 1B,
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and they're both very, very, very talented. And you could
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see them creating issues. I know the one thing that
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he does better than Jeremiah is he draws penalties. He
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draws a pass interference. He did that this week, and
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they were grabbing him quite a bit, and he was
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getting frustrated, and he was calling for a penalty every time.
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I don't know that he was interfered with every time.
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But those two guys are really, really good and fun
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to watch. A couple of last points for me. I
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thought the offensive line was– the Indiana offensive line was
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having trouble getting to the linebackers so that they could
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get the running backs to the next level. I would
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say Indiana should have gone deep more because of those receivers. Now, again,
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the wind was an issue. And, Tom, to give you
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an idea, not that you need an idea of what
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the issue was, but maybe how much of an issue
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it was, let everybody else know. If you could tell
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me who had the wind when these teams were punting.
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Indiana punted six times, averaged 35 yards. Nebraska punted three times,
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averaged 57 yards. I wonder who had the wind in
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those particular punts. And then the last thing that I
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have here, I think, is that Indiana had a penalty
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called on them in the fourth quarter. It was the
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first penalty of the day, and then you saw the
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The graphic on the screen, it's their first penalty in
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seven quarters. And that is the sign of, one, a
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disciplined quality team with quality coaches, and two, a team
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that is getting the benefit of the doubt an awful lot.
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And those are two things that you can take with
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you against one of the top teams in the nation.
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And if they are disciplined and can get some calls,
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because you do need calls to win, then they could
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absolutely beat Ohio State on Saturday.
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Yeah. Oh, a hundred percent. And again, I am not
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decided at all on what I'm, what I'm going to
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end up picking this week. Cause I, this is going
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to be a loud environment, probably not as loud as
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it would be if it was a primetime environment, but
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it's going to be a loud environment. You've got a
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young inexperienced, potentially Ohio state offensive line, and we've seen
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them have false start issues, have communication issues. So, so
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much of this is going to come down to just
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offensive lines, which is not exciting. Everyone, you know, it'd be,
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it would be a lot more fun to talk about,
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you know, Charlie Becker and Nick Marsh and Jeremiah Smith,
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but it just feels like this whole thing's going to
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come down to the offensive line. And, you know, this is,
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this is going to be, I mean, it's being advertised
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as the biggest game in the biggest home game in
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Indiana football history. Like this is, this is going to
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be scenes, man. Like I, we've, we have been to
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Indiana over the years and I'm sure we'll talk about
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this later in the, later in the week as well.
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But we've been to Indiana in a lot of years
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where the stadiums, two thirds full and about half of
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the people that are there are wearing scarlet and gray
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and not cream and crimson. This is going to be
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a scene. I am really, really excited to see this.
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This feels like one of those games where it just,
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if you're an Ohio state fan going, maybe just dress
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in colors, but not actual like logos and stuff, because
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this feels like one of Indiana's Indiana fans have been
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waiting for, for a very, very long time. And they might, um,
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It might get a little, I don't know, I don't
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want to say dangerous. Confrontational. It's going to be great.
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I can't wait.
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The last time the goalpost got torn down at Memorial
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Stadium for an Ohio State-Indiana game, it was Ohio State
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fans doing it. So it could be new ground broken
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this Saturday.
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30 years ago. Something to think about. So you got
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anything else? You good? We good?
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Well, I have a feeling we're going to talk about
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this game a few more times this week. So whatever
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I have, we'll get to later.
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And we are also planning to rewatch the Indiana Northwestern
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game and give our thoughts on that. And, of course,
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we're going to do so much talking about this game. No,
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we are very much looking forward to it. It's a
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big thing. Indiana gets the win over Nebraska. You've got
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a top-five matchup in Blooming. and we will be there.
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We'll be getting there sometime on Friday, and we're going
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to be just, you know, talking about this one for
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the next, I don't know, Tom, 24 times, seven times,
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you know, the next week. And so if you want
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Well she threw away the motel fee I wish it
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never meant nothing We could steal a car and leave tonight.