Introducing: Born to the Game Podcast| Growing Up as Cedric the Entertainer’s Daughter – Lucky Rose Kyles

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Speaker 1: I remember we were my family took a trip to Morocco. And this was also when I realized my dad was famous because I were in Morocco.
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Speaker 2: Who knows you in Morocco? Daddy is a big deal. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I was like, so what And this group of women followed him into the bathroom.
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Speaker 2: No they did not. Oh, this is.
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Speaker 3: Until the game is in every beating mine the prison peak.
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Speaker 2: We're running on.
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Speaker 3: Us and the time lands on play arenas time be along on.
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Speaker 2: To the game, carrying in the play goes on the path, but it's anyway we run and proclaim it on to the game. Letas exported.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to Born to the Game produced by an archimedia group in collaboration with Inflection Network and distribute through iHeartMedia. This is a space where the children and families of iconic athletes, entertainers, and cultural figures share the truth behind legacy, not just what their families did, but who they are and how that legacy continues. Today's guest grew up in a world where laughter was second nature, but confidence that was something she chose to build for herself.
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Speaker 4: She is the founder of Pretty Lucky Lips, a beauty brand rooted in self expression boldness and owning your own voice. She's creative, stylish, thoughtful, and proof that legacy doesn't have to be followed, it can be redefined. She is the daughter of legendary comedian Cedric the Entertainer. But today you're going to meet Lucky for Lucky. Please welcome to Born to the Game.
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Speaker 2: Lucky rose Kind.
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Speaker 3: So we do this thing, we're like that, how are you?
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Speaker 2: You know well, how to do it for you? I'm I'm great? How are you? Guys? We're better?
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Speaker 3: You are a bundle of just so much, just positive, beautiful energy and joy.
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Speaker 2: Your smile is contagious than you guys so much.
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Speaker 3: You know, this is our first time meeting face to face. I know, yeah, our dads, you know, our good friends, they hang out and so if I feel like I've known you, known about you, so just meeting you, I'm like, you're gorgeous.
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Speaker 2: I'm just staring at you like you are so sweet. Said you guys are Amazonian? She did say, she did. I felt so short.
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Speaker 1: When I walked in, and then you're always glad that we were, like.
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Speaker 2: We're normal.
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Speaker 3: It's just I have on I decided upon on the six inch you know on top.
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Speaker 4: That or six to one, right, which I love it, but you make up in other areas.
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Speaker 3: I'm a good five two and that's okay. And that's okay, that is okay. So we have you here because we just would love to hear your story and just your perspective of being born into a life where again you're your father is such a legend in his respective industry, Oh my gosh. And I know there's so many viewers who again, it's it's easy for people to know your.
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Speaker 2: Dad, google him. You just we see him all the time, but.
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Speaker 3: We don't really get to see a product of him, his daughter, you know. And so we want to get to know you and talk about what you're doing and where you're going and who.
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Speaker 2: You are becoming. Is that okay? Yes, we'll have good time.
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Speaker 3: So first question is just what was it like growing up with the Cedric the entertainer as your dad?
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Speaker 2: Like who is he?
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Speaker 1: Well? You know what's so funny is that I actually don't think I realize my dad's stardom until like way later in life. Like it was not something that like and I don't understand how I didn't like pick up on it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no clue how I.
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Speaker 1: Didn't pick up on that maybe until I think it was around the time he got a star on the Hollywood.
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Speaker 2: Walk and that was what age were you?
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Speaker 1: I think I had to have been like thirteen maybe, yeah, yeah, I think I was probably like eighth grade ish ure. I think, you know, at the time, like Netflix had just started to do comedy specials like that was starting to happen, and.
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Speaker 2: He was he got his, and I was like, wait, dad has a comedy special. You're like, what you've been doing? I know, I haven't.
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Speaker 1: Comedy had no I like, no idea. It didn't like register to me, like and you know, I think sometimes too, I kind of felt like I knew that like he was in like the comedy world and like we would go to like premieres and things. But I always kind of felt like he was like black famous because.
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Speaker 2: You know, there's what you mean black famous, so like.
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Speaker 3: But can't elaborate what is black famous.
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Speaker 1: Like there's there's certain celebrities and icons that are only exclusive to the black community.
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Speaker 2: Like so you didn't realize he was global.
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Speaker 1: That we reached like outside of like people of our demographic.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like but even when he's in your life, Okay, you're thinking, he's.
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Speaker 2: The black celebrity, right, how did that make you feel just even knowing?
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Speaker 3: I know it sounds it sounds crazy, but you still know that he's a celebrity of some sort, right, Yeah, how so how does that make you feel?
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Speaker 2: Like? But it's it's normal, I guess to you. Yeah, it was always very normal.
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Speaker 1: And I don't think I think my parents did such a good job at keeping because I'm the baby. There's three of us, and I think that they did a really good job at keeping us all super humble and we didn't make our dad like an appendage to our personality and like his stardom and you know, clothes and vacations and cars and this, Like I don't think we understood truly the monetary value of it all. I think my mom was just really focuses on us being kids, and so along with that, she really didn't want us in the limelight too much, Like she really didn't want us to be.
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Speaker 2: You know, the celebrity, the celebrity kid.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she tried us to really keep us away from that. Of course, like we would go to like I have like my oldest memories are like sitting in backstage of like calm the shows, and that was want to ask you, yeah, and like you know, just running around backstage and doing things like that. But I was always with my mom, always, always, always, always, always okay, and so it just kind of felt like how you go to the playground, like it was just a part of.
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Speaker 2: My your everyday routine.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like on the weekend, will be at the forum, Like I don't know, and to me, it wasn't the Forum five. It was like, you know, just some place where Dad's working. It hadn't computed like that. And I was just you know, playing with blocks and yeah, that was almost like it hadn't really gone there yet.
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Speaker 2: But when I realized I.
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Speaker 1: Had watched, well, I had watched like some of his movies. I had watched Johnson Family Vacation. That was the only one I was allowed.
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Speaker 2: To watch that movie. Why is it so good? We love that? You know it actually is right?
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Speaker 4: Or were movie dorks like that is one of them that we will turn that on just because it's a Tuesday and so else do.
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Speaker 3: But I want a classic to lie, yeah, and we'll turn it on.
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Speaker 2: It's so fantastic.
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Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, bow Wow, It's like Okay, lo, why, like, who didn't have a crush on bow Wow though?
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Speaker 2: Real did? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Yeah bow Wow Salon, Yes, like the community our it.
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Speaker 2: Was just absolutely amazing young Jason momoo okay, like wo wow. Yeah it was. It's it's an amazing, an amazing, amazing film.
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Speaker 1: And so that was the only one I could watch because it was like his most like childish film.
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Speaker 3: And what year did that? Because I want to link the age because we're about a decade. We're not going to reveal our age, but we're at least a decade older than you, and that movie came out when we.
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Speaker 1: Were two thousand and five, I think. Yeah, so you saw it for the first time. Okay, I was born in two thousand and three, right, So.
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Speaker 2: What came out when you were a baby? So you saw it? She is a baby, a beautiful baby. So you saw it at what age for the first time?
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Speaker 1: Like maybe too young? Like maybe like six or seven? Okay, okay, it was It was absolutely the first movie that I saw of his for the first time.
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Speaker 2: And then what did you feel when you saw him on TV? Yeah? I think I just.
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Speaker 1: Felt I think it was exciting. Yeah, yeah, it was absolutely exciting. I was accustomed to seeing him live perform, but like seeing him on film was so cool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like you know, seeing him really like act, like I thought that was interesting. Yeah. But then like it also like I remember because you know, he has a whole different family like in the in the movie in the movie.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so it's so funny to see him like play dad on screen.
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Speaker 2: Because he's my dad, right.
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Speaker 1: So it's just like, I don't know, it's kind of silly because like you would never say that.
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Speaker 3: Any similarities that you would see on camera and you're looking in real life like you don't do this, you know.
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Speaker 1: But you know what actually, now that I think about it, So in in Johnson Family Vacation, he's kind of like type A about them traveling.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and my dad is absolutely like that. We call him traveling like he has to be like on time.
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Speaker 1: He's actually thats hilarious and we all know we're like, oh, travel Man's coming out because he like needs everything it has to be on time, like the eye ten by ten, Like that's so him, Like they're so him his favorite they say that still ten I know he'll say church on the move and that means like, okay, we have to all start walking now, like it's time to go. He needs like all of his things carried, like he needs like he he just needs all the things he has to be in some type of like lage. He's like it's a whole situation and he's like any complications, that's hilarious.
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Speaker 2: It does. It sounds just like my father.
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Speaker 3: But I was going to ask you, do you think that is something viewers would be surprised to know about your dad, that he is very structured, and you know it so.
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Speaker 4: Funny, like I would never think, yeah, he's pretty chill, like most of the time.
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Speaker 1: It's just when he's traveling, but typically it's because he has like somewhere to be, like work. But I think because we I mean, I'm like the most type B person, Okay, like.
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Speaker 2: I'm super organized, but I'm like, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Like let's just like wherever the wind blows, That's where I'm gonna be exactly.
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Speaker 1: And I think me and my aunt are the only people that are like that. But we're also the most adventurous. So we travel alone a lot, and like we actually just took a trip to Asia where we just we didn't have any like places to stay.
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Speaker 2: We didn't have any visas.
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Speaker 1: We were like, let's just go good for y'all, let's just go.
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Speaker 3: We're actually and we just show up with no itinerary. No hotel would break me out though.
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Speaker 2: No. I was like, okay, girl, we have to figure out. Yeah, the hotel was, but we did. It's like the type of thing. It's like, we'll find it when we get there.
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Speaker 1: Like we're just so we're so spontaneous, so I think, but my dad can't roll like that. He needs to know, okay, what's going on only with the travel, Okay, once he gets where he's going out in.
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Speaker 2: The streets, he's just you know, outside. So, was humor part of your home life? Like? Was he funny at home? Would he ever run jokes by you at home? Any jokes on each other? Y? Okay?
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Speaker 3: Okay, one any joke that he says and you're like, Dad, no, that's a corny dad joke, you know what.
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Speaker 1: Very rarely he knows that it's corny okay. But and I'll just be like, okay, dad, Like all right, But I always tell everyone my mom is way funnier, is she She's absolutely ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: She's hilarious.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's why they're so in love is because I think they bonded over humor.
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Speaker 2: Over humor, and.
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Speaker 1: So he like he'll like still a lot of his jokes from her because she's absolutely ridiculous, like as in just you know, her little ad libs around the house, like whatever she does.
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Speaker 2: She is clearly I'm like, we need the credits. Honestly.
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Speaker 1: He steals stuff from everything we say, like all of us, Like he'll write about me all the time. He used to write jokes about me in high school and things I would say with my friends. And then I remember one time he went on stage and he said to somebody's name, and I was like, Dad, you can't say their name, like because I couldn't be watching this office and gossip with him.
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Speaker 2: That's our favorite thing to do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll like go and we'll like gossip about like what's happening at my school or here here, my roommates, whatever, And then he'll go on stage and say verbatim. When I said, I was like, Dad, you cannot Oh.
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Speaker 2: My god, I would be mortified.
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Speaker 3: He'll be like, yeah, Lucky's friend.
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Speaker 2: She Dad, you cannot say that.
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Speaker 4: So does he run like his jokes past you when they're about you.
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Speaker 2: No, he does never. Oh.
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Speaker 3: He said, I'm gonna do what I want to do. Y'all just gonna have to laugh when I say it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, and he never does. But after that then he doesn't do that anymore. But actually, on his Netflix special, and I was so mad at him because I was ridiculed for months, he has a joke where I asked him if animals commit suicide?
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Speaker 2: And I did not ask him, and I'm actually glad I.
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Speaker 1: Can set the record straight. He said that you said you asked him. He was like, Oh, I have this daughter. She's really smart and really like weirdly curious, and she asked me if animals commit suicide. Of course, he says it in some like, you know, hilarious way, and it like goes into all this other stuff. But I remember going to school, and I think I was in the eighth grade, like going to school afterwards, and my teacher's being.
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Speaker 2: Like, look, you think animals commit suicide? And I was like, I did not say, look at that camera right there. I never said that.
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Speaker 1: I actually think my brother asked him that, and then he just used my collateral.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: I only had a joke about my brother, so he was like, I have to throw lucky in there. I did not say that. I'm glad you can set the record straight. Animals can commit suicide.
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Speaker 3: Her brother will, I will say it's an interesting I mean, I mean, it's it's I.
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Speaker 2: Will say that. But girl, you clear the air period. It seems like you have but it.
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Speaker 3: Seems like you you inherited a little bit of his personality, Like you're bubbly, you know, you have joy, like you have great energy. Is there anything else you think you inherited from your dad?
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Speaker 1: I am ridiculously funny, I will say that.
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Speaker 2: I'll agree, I don't agree.
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Speaker 1: I am super funny, I do think, and he knows I'm really funny too.
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Speaker 2: But I think we both have an ability.
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Speaker 1: To just like yap like we we're big chatters. And my dad's super super charming, and I think I definitely got that from him. He's really outgoing, like kind of like talk to anybody, kind of guy. My mom is really really shy. She's you know, insane, but she loves.
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Speaker 2: Each other. Ye she's she also has.
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Speaker 1: That ability to talk to anyone, but she is quite like timid and shy, and she is such a behind the scenes person. She would never be able to be on camera, kind of like how I am a little bit too. We would never know a morph a little bit. But people always ask me, They're like, oh, are you an actress.
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Speaker 2: Or do you model? Or you in entertainment at all?
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, no aspirations, No, that is not that's just simply not for me.
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Speaker 2: I really shouldn't. You're comfortable behind the camera. I just thank you.
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Speaker 1: I always tell people I shouldn't have be in front of.
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Speaker 2: Well, we can't say shouldn't because you you look amazed. You look amazing. It's not where you want to be. Yeah, that's much more.
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Speaker 1: My brother okay, he's like, so he should be an actor, he's like extremely talented. But that's just not It just was never mind calling. So what's you have?
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Speaker 2: How many siblings? I have an older sister, Okay, how old is she?
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Speaker 1: She's about thirty. I can never tell. I'm like, is she thirty five?
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Speaker 2: I think she's thirty five once she passed thirty at all. It's all the same.
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Speaker 1: She'd kill me if I say that she's she's older.
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Speaker 2: She's at the oldest. She's the oldest. My brother is twenty five.
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Speaker 3: Questions.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I was like, why don't I know my siblings aged? I mean, because it's a it's a blur. Yeah, I barely know Min. He's three years older than me and.
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Speaker 3: Two Okay, yeah, okay, how is Dad with dating?
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Speaker 2: Is he you know what? Oh? Actually he's really good.
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah he's not like, no, he's the best. He's like the sweetest man, he really is. He's such like a little teddy. I was about to say he really is. Like every time I see Cedric, I'm like, he's like the.
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Speaker 2: Most gentle like, coolest guy. I'm obsessed with him.
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Speaker 1: But he has always been really cool with dating. I think he's I also claim that I have a really great picker, like I've never had any bad boyfriend.
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Speaker 2: Now do a pretty good job. That means you're just a good judgment of characters.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a lot of discernments to learn that.
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Speaker 2: You learn that from your parents, you.
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Speaker 1: Think, definitely? Okay, yeah, definitely from my parents. I also, my mom's my best friend.
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Speaker 2: I tell her everything. Okay, And so I mean we like judge together like someone.
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Speaker 1: I love it how to feel it, you know, but I also just kind of feel it.
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Speaker 2: I'm like I don't think. So do you ever go to Dad for advice? Always good? Literally always. I call him all the time. I'm for relationship advice. I call him all the time for everything.
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Speaker 3: We have a daddy's girl another no, real bad. We attract daddy's girls real bad, real bad.
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Speaker 1: And he's like they have a running joke like my family, if my dad's not picking up the phone, they'll be like, look, you call him because he'll always always pick up the phone. And like I called him the other day because I was like.
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Speaker 2: I need to change my oil and I have no clue.
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Speaker 1: Like just girl problems. I'm like, I don't know what I'm like what I do? And I called him and he was on set taping and I was like, or like sometimes he'll be.
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Speaker 2: In a table and I'll be like, okay, Dad go to work, but like what do I do? Like do I go to Costco? Like you know, just I'm ridiculous And that will never change.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, n years from now, twenty years from now, it will never change. You will always be his baby girl, I know always.
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Speaker 2: I love that, like yeah yeah yeah for me. Yeah, but he is pretty chill with dating.
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Speaker 1: He'd like will always give like, you know, a good stern talk.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's pretty chill.
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Speaker 1: I think he trust my my Yeah, I think he trusts my.
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Speaker 2: My decisions and he's just like, she'll be fine. Distment is a big word. It is a discernment. Yeah, and it.
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Speaker 4: Only gets I'll say, I don't want to say worse, but it only gets stronger and straight older. It does discernment and then you're like, dang, I hate that I know this, but I know this, so is like it's a gift actually especially yeah, a spiritual gift.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, actually at your age. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I consider myself to be quite intuitive, which is a correct I mean I definitely.
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Speaker 2: Have made like a handful, like not even hand a bunch of.
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Speaker 3: Mistakes, which is that will continue to like I'm twenty two, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.
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Speaker 2: And I'm like I was, I, you know, never know what I'm doing.
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Speaker 1: But I feel like my parents are so amazing because they've given me the space to like make my own mistakes and mess up and then always like help me pull me back up, like make me feel you know, better.
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Speaker 2: But my dad is really great with you advice. He really helps me out.
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Speaker 3: What's the best advice he's just giving you just about life that you in business, Yeah, that you carry.
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Speaker 2: I think.
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Speaker 1: I mean he I go to him for a lot of business advice, okay, because I mean Baman does not quit, Like he has so many different businesses and like streams of income, and I just it's so mind boggling to me. He's definitely like one of the hardest working people I know. He's always always always working. And I think that's another thing I got for him, Like that industrious kind of mindset, Like he's always thinking about the next thing. He's always thinking about like a way to tweak this or tweak that, or like an avenue into a certain industry or like he's just his mind is always kind of.
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Speaker 2: And that has influenced you and how you've used this. My mom is the same way.
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Speaker 1: She's like a very like turn nothing into something type of person, and she has like really amazing ideas like where I'm like, I don't even know how you thought about Like they're just really creative people. But I think he has taught me the most just to create things and create as it relates to my business.
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Speaker 2: That feels like me, So stay true to yourself.
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Speaker 1: I think in my early stages of you know, creating businesses creating a business and just you know, thinking about what I wanted to look like, what I wanted to be. I was trying. I was focusing so hard on other existing companies and seeing if I could mirror that or mirroring what someone else liked or like what someone else, you know, what I thought they wanted. And so I mean that never works, and he just lets me know that, like I'm a person who you know, has like you know, energy that blur attracted to your enough, yeah, exact ideas, exactly exactly, and it can just be like rooted in me and it can just feel like lucky, and then people will want.
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Speaker 2: To gravitated towards it.
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Speaker 3: And we're going to get into your business, absolutely, we you know, we'll dive into just more about pressure and expectations and just you know that and it naturally comes and that naturally comes in this lifestyle, right, So we'll dive into that.
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Speaker 4: But first we're going to get to know who you are or who you were, I should say, as a kid. So first I want to ask you what what three words would you use to describe yourself as a child or no, no, let's start with this now and then we'll go backwards.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, ah, I'll say I sound so narcissistic.
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Speaker 2: Okay, was about to I'll say intelligent.
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Speaker 1: I think charismatic would be the word I would use, and.
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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mmmm, I think maybe like genuine Okay, yeah, I love that. I'll say genuine.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's me. Intelligent, intelligent. I think I'm pretty smart.
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Speaker 2: No, you're very You're very smart.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Intelligent, charismatic and genuine genuine.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 4: So then when we talk about lucky as a kid, do you see yourself as you did, like as you do now?
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Speaker 2: Then?
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Speaker 4: Can you can you see yourself that you were always? Who are you going to become?
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Speaker 1: In some aspects? I was definitely I was a really shy kid. I think that.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: So for a little history, my brother and I first language is both French.
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Speaker 2: Wow. So we went to a French immersion school in La in La, Okay.
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Speaker 1: That's why we were born and raised right, Yes, we are La down, Okay, and we went to a French immersion school it's called Leila from k through second My brother went a little longer, and so I think because we went to that school, which was honestly the smartest thing. I always say the best gift my mom gave me was another language, because we're both still fluent, and it was It's honestly the best best gift because she gave us, you know the world in that way. I didn't realize and I was so angry that we had to like speak French.
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Speaker 2: I was like, this is so I appreciate it. I appreciate it so much.
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Speaker 1: And I was also mad because I'm like, girl, we live in California.
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Speaker 2: Where am I going?
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Speaker 1: And she was like, I just want you guys to be different.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I just wanted something. And it's still to this day when I say I speak French, everyone's.
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Speaker 2: Like, give us a low French.
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Speaker 3: I hate I I just I would love to just practice.
00:26:13
Speaker 2: A little Sally Los Angeles and okay, I know a little Frinch. I can. I think I can.
00:26:25
Speaker 4: I can hear what my name is, Lucky, I'm from Los Angeles, and say the last thing.
00:26:30
Speaker 2: Again, I just said in French, what is it? I'm happy to be here? Yes, wait, you understand France. Yeah I didn't.
00:26:41
Speaker 4: I didn't know that I spoke French for a long time. You ate that I just can't speak it anymore. But I can't understand it because I took French for a long time too.
00:26:48
Speaker 2: I used to know how to speak it. But when you don't, you lose it.
00:26:51
Speaker 3: You absolutely ate that. That was amazing, Thank you, Wait, that was really I didn't know that. It sounds beautiful.
00:26:59
Speaker 2: Have you been to France? Have you been there? Yes? Many times. I know they love you. Yeah, yeah, I know. And I love the.
00:27:07
Speaker 4: Speak when you can speak, when you know you can speak French, they love you.
00:27:11
Speaker 2: She's gorgeous. Yeah, I know they love you. Period. I know they love you. Yeah. I actually I love it.
00:27:17
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of like a second home because we also went to French school in France.
00:27:23
Speaker 2: Oh for how long? Yes? Oh, I love the opportunity.
00:27:26
Speaker 1: My mom would send us there every summer. Wow, so she wasn't playing. So how many years did you go?
00:27:31
Speaker 2: Every year?
00:27:32
Speaker 1: When until I was eighteen? Wow, she was not playing at all. She was like, yeah, it was like othering but so fun. So I mean, well, we went to the French preschool and I was crying and I both were the only black kids as well as.
00:27:53
Speaker 2: The only American kids.
00:27:55
Speaker 1: So most people when they send their kids to an immersion school. They're usually Francophonian, which means like their parents are from some type of like French, like Canada or the Caribbean or you know, some places in Africa or whatever.
00:28:08
Speaker 2: Okay, most of those.
00:28:09
Speaker 1: Kids' parents were French, but ours, like my mom's from like my mom's from Englewood. So it's like she doesn't like, you know, and I think we just kind of felt a little othered. I definitely was othered, and so I didn't make any friends, Okay, And to make you.
00:28:25
Speaker 4: Feel, yeah, that's BI dive in to make friends like that's hard.
00:28:30
Speaker 2: I was also so shy, and so I just didn't.
00:28:33
Speaker 1: I just didn't. Really, I just didn't have any friends. I don't know if I necessarily if it if it necessarily clicked to me like that. I was like, I was very shy in public, but I was also a really sprightly kid when I was at home, and I always I'm always really happy, like, so I don't. It wasn't anything that I really got down on myself. For my mom is such a writer, and so she would come to she would come eat lunch with me every day, like every single day, and so I think that I think that maybe mine tricked me into.
00:29:07
Speaker 2: Not even realizing that I was friendless.
00:29:09
Speaker 1: Okay, And then we had switched over to American school, and so I felt a lot more at home at home there, and yeah, like just kind of like blended write in I was. I had started to like, you know, become like a little bit more you know whatever.
00:29:25
Speaker 2: But I was always.
00:29:26
Speaker 1: Really a really curious child. I was always really artistic. I was really into drawing, really into painting. I was always I used to sculpt a lot.
00:29:41
Speaker 2: I still do. I love sculpting.
00:29:43
Speaker 3: Do you have some just in your home where you live, just some of the designs, some things?
00:29:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, I make little things. I used to make a lot of humans. And I don't know why anyone didn't think it was weird because I would.
00:29:55
Speaker 2: Make like naked. I was weird.
00:29:58
Speaker 1: I would because I mean there would be like body parts and like eyeballs, and I'm not quite sure it looked a little like strange if you saw it all laid out. And I'm like, I don't know, I'm like seven, So I don't know why anyone was like, why is she like or like I used to draw as a young person. I used to draw like naked people, and no one thought to raise an eyebel, Like.
00:30:19
Speaker 3: So interesting though, because that's such a young age, Like inatuation.
00:30:23
Speaker 2: Came turned out really so cool just to know about you because no one would ever think that. No one raised eye. Everyone was like, oh, good job, Like, yeah, you're being a creative self.
00:30:35
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't like, I don't know, but yeah, always very creative. I then got into dance. I was a competitive dancer. Like my whole life. I was always like singing and my mom was like, we need to get this baby some singing classes, like she was. I just I always like there was always some type of form of art going on. But I think I really found like my home in dancing, and then dancing became like my life for.
00:31:05
Speaker 2: Like a couple of years. I was absolutely obsessed with it.
00:31:08
Speaker 1: But the French schools, like I was saying, she would send us there every summer, or one summer we went to Canada, we went to Montreal.
00:31:16
Speaker 2: It just had to be a French speaking place.
00:31:19
Speaker 1: And then she also always kept French inside the house, so she would have someone come talk to us all.
00:31:26
Speaker 2: Day every day.
00:31:27
Speaker 1: So she basically made it so we only talked to our parents in English.
00:31:31
Speaker 2: Mama wasn't she was really not playing it.
00:31:33
Speaker 4: But you have to do that because if you don't, you will lose because you speak anymore. Because I got out of practice of speaking. She was super Yeah, you have to you have to do that. You have to be immersed in the language to speak it like that, like how she's speaking.
00:31:47
Speaker 3: But now that, do you practice the same way or now that it's it's pretty like engraved, and.
00:31:52
Speaker 1: I don't practice the same way, I think I once I got to college, I just because I'm my brother and I don't live in the same house anymore, so we didn't even speak to each other anymore. Occasionally I would get on the front with phone with my French friends and you know, have a conversation. But it's one of those things now where it's like every time I go there and I'm there for a couple.
00:32:11
Speaker 2: Of days, it just kind of cops back.
00:32:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not really something I think about on the regular, but I was always so upset that we would have to because I mean, also in California, the other language that you learn in school is usually Spanish, and so I remember like we had to do like Spanish and Latin classes and my mom told the school, They're like, they're not doing that. She was like, they're going to do French. And the school was like, oh, we don't offer French, and she was like, no, my kids are going to be doing French. So she anytime the whole class would go in to take like their Spanish class, we would go, do you know, we would go do French. She would have someone come there and she was super not playing Wow, like this.
00:32:59
Speaker 2: Is so intriguing to you, because so what did that teach you?
00:33:03
Speaker 4: Just going through like learning French class, which is not something I mean, we learned, we have French class in school, but you were completely immersed in it. So that experience and then the the lack of friendships, what did that teach you about yourself?
00:33:18
Speaker 2: I think? I mean, honestly, I feel like something.
00:33:25
Speaker 1: My parents both instilled, both like into all of their children was just that it's not that it's just okay to be different, but that we were different. Okay, then that we were because my mom made it so that we were unique children. Yeah, And so while that was something that you kind of feel like and I would kind of get timid about telling people, I spoke French or i'd get timid about telling people about, you know, certain accomplishments or this or that.
00:33:58
Speaker 2: My mom was just like, no.
00:33:59
Speaker 1: That's something for you to be proud of, like run from it. Yeah, it's absolutely something for you to be proud of. It's like, even when I even in the French school, being American, my mom, it was never a thing of like, well, I'm without something.
00:34:15
Speaker 2: It was just kind of like I'm i am just too.
00:34:21
Speaker 1: It was always positioned in a way where it was like I have something that someone else isn't understanding and that's okay, you know, and like it never it never made me feel super othered in that way because I was just like, oh, it's just not for them to understand, and it's not for me to try and get them to understand, you know type of thing. And so it wasn't really something I thought about too much. But I think I've carried that along with me.
00:34:47
Speaker 2: Is like I'm just.
00:34:49
Speaker 1: I'm in the package that I'm in and it's not for me to like make someone else.
00:34:55
Speaker 3: And that's beautiful that you know that at such a young age. Yeah, that's beautiful.
00:34:58
Speaker 4: So when does Lucky feel the most free?
00:35:01
Speaker 2: Oh, that's such a good question. Oh my god, M on the dance floor. I don't know, Okay, I think what do I feel the most free?
00:35:18
Speaker 1: I mean I think I try. I try to wake up and do my best and feel my best every day for you in some type of little moment, and like sometimes it's not like it might be like in the car or you know, in between walking to classes if I have like that one certain song on and like I just you know, the energy felt right, or you know, I meditate a lot. Sometimes it's when I'm meditating, but I do try and chase that freedom every day.
00:35:52
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, good for you.
00:35:55
Speaker 1: So it's not super designated to one one place. But yeah, I'll say that.
00:36:01
Speaker 3: I love that again so much. Wisdom's so yeah, I was not. I didn't have that same mindset. It's beautiful.
00:36:11
Speaker 4: Yeah, So tell us about some of the challenges that you faced, you know, in your younger years of growing up in the entertainer's household, right your mom. I mean, I can tell, we can hear how your mom was rearing both of you, know, your siblings and yourself, but like, what is it like, what were some of the challenges that you that you face that you can.
00:36:34
Speaker 1: I think you got through you know what I feel like, Well, there's definitely there's definitely the whole, you know, race bit of it. I mean, we lived in the valley and so because that, we went to a lot of predominantly white schools, and that's.
00:36:55
Speaker 2: Always its own thing, like being in.
00:37:00
Speaker 1: You know, just spaces where you don't necessarily feel like you fit in. Not just that you fit in, but honestly like that you're kind of like token on it that you're seeing that you're seeing too much, Okay, yeah, honestly, like you're just kind of like you know, I remember like people like playing with your hair, I know it's so bad, and then feeling like feeling self conscious about my hair.
00:37:26
Speaker 3: They're feeling self conscious about your hair or I was, oh you are feeling okay, gotcha?
00:37:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, or just really you know, just different than yeah, or just you know, things like that.
00:37:38
Speaker 1: I mean I matured a lot younger than most people, and then I would kind of feel like.
00:37:44
Speaker 2: My hips are a little bigger than everybody.
00:37:45
Speaker 1: Else's exactly, just like everything. I was like, okay, and like, you know, because I like we were growing up in that like that age of like the kim Ks and like the Nicki Minaj. So it's like when I got a button, like everyone it was everyone's like business and it was interesting, you know. And then I felt I was like, like, that's a little weird.
00:38:08
Speaker 3: That's so interesting because it's polar opposite for us, because I mean I grew up in Katie, Texas, where everyone was this this big, very narrow, so you had hips in a butt.
00:38:18
Speaker 4: It's like it was weird. So I went to a predominant white school. Yeah, in fifth grade, I got my I just your hips. I was I was a rail and then over the summer my hips and butts and I got stretch marks.
00:38:30
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:38:31
Speaker 4: And I remember I was like in the locker room or the like swim parties, everybody was like looking at me because everybody else was still you know, they were white girls, so they were still laskinty, and I had developed and they were looking at me like yes see, And I felt I felt so horrible about myself because I was like, why why do you have a button. Yeah, like I have stretch marks. I'm like, I'm not grown, but like it just happened overnight. And I remember feeling like that. I remember feeling so horrible.
00:38:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just feel so one displayed.
00:38:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, because and again there wasn't very many other black black so it was no one else that could share that, you know what I mean. So it was just like, oh my god, yeah, yeah, it's it's a horrible feeling.
00:39:08
Speaker 1: No, it was a very horrible feeling. And along with that being a competitive dancer, like you have to like change all the time in front of people in like you know, random rooms and in cars like you know, and my mom's the again that you're a little girl, Like she's like, girl just changed, Like yeah, she would tell me all you ain't not nothing, just change. But you know you're feeling self conscious because we're like no, I I have hips now, I don't know where those came from. And just you know, it was just it was it was a lot of things like that where I was like, Okay, that's weird. I mean, as it related to my dad, I don't think like any challenges really surfaced for me. I mean definitely, I think the only thing that I would when you have a famous parent, you know, some.
00:39:54
Speaker 2: People do treat you differently. They do.
00:39:57
Speaker 1: It can be a little hard. I definitely I noticed that more you know, kind of high.
00:40:04
Speaker 2: School college age.
00:40:06
Speaker 1: Definitely when I got to college though, that was like so clearly evident. My best friend in my roommate, her name is Raquel. Her name is Roquel Justice. She's David Justice's daughter. Yeah, yes, she actually y'all would have loved her. She's a mess, and so she you know, growing up with and she's an actress. She just shout out, Roquel. She just did Dexter. She just did Dexter. And she's super talented. And she had a movie come out like two years ago. It was actually a basketball movie.
00:40:46
Speaker 4: Yes, I've always friendship.
00:40:51
Speaker 1: But we definitely had a conversation. So her and I met in high school and we became best friends, and then we both took a gap year together.
00:40:59
Speaker 2: We traveled the.
00:40:59
Speaker 3: World and then young girls just take on the world.
00:41:04
Speaker 1: And then we we decided to go to college together and room together. And we had a conversation because I was like, you know, nobody when we got there, nobody knew we were coming. And because you know, when you like go to college, they have like those Instagram pages and you can meet people. We do that, and so I think we I we just kind of had a conversation of like, so I don't think anyone, no one knows. And we came from I went to see our canyon and high school in Chatsworth, and for anyone who knows at school, that's like the celebrity kids school, And so being a celebrity kid wasn't a big deal there because like every dad is someone like I was in class with like Scottie Pippens kids, and like you know, and and Kevin Hart and you know, and just it was not a big deal. But now we're transitioning into a school experience where it is a big deal. Like people have never met a famous person in their lives. So we kind of were like, you know, we wanted to build real connections, and it was important to both of us that we didn't just stick together.
00:42:15
Speaker 2: And golm onto one another.
00:42:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, really wanted to make friends with people, and so we made it a point not to talk about our parents when we were, you know, talking to people. So if someone would ask me like, oh, what do your parents do, I'd be like, oh, my mom's a costumer, Like I.
00:42:34
Speaker 2: Never mentioned my dad.
00:42:36
Speaker 1: Or if she if someone would ask her, she'd be like, oh, my mom designs jewelry, you know, things like that, because we just didn't want it to be a topic of the conversation. And then obviously, like you know, month three, people found out because like you exchange instagrams like you know, whatever, it's your dad's birthday. Things happen, and you know, there are the certain people that, like, you know, act like they're a little closer to you than.
00:42:58
Speaker 2: They actually are.
00:43:00
Speaker 1: Name yeah, exactly, you know, get a little too excited. I would have like people in high school that would like like say, like keep on inviting themselves to my home and like and I have an open house policy, Like I'm so not that person, Like anyone can come to my crib.
00:43:20
Speaker 2: Like it's really not that, it's not that.
00:43:21
Speaker 1: Deep, but it would be like a thing of like.
00:43:24
Speaker 2: Because I didn't invite them.
00:43:26
Speaker 1: They would tell people that I was having a party, and then it'd be like eleven o'clock on a Thursday, and there'd be a bunch of people outside my home.
00:43:33
Speaker 2: And I'd be like, what's going on? So this is a boundaries issue? Right?
00:43:37
Speaker 4: Wait people, wait, hold on, wait, hold on, you're saying that other people would invite themselves to her house?
00:43:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, you knowing, Yes, yeah.
00:43:47
Speaker 1: Just so that they could get to my house and just say what would parent say? Like they would just be like what's going on? And then I would explain and they'd be like what, and then you know, party was over.
00:43:59
Speaker 2: But it seems like there's again people feeling like they have they have the right to enter your space. Yeah, there's no boundaries.
00:44:09
Speaker 3: And so how knowing this and experiencing this, how did you combat that? Because that's something I know I personally have experienced a lot people just feeling like they have the right, yeah, to be in your space and you don't have the right to set up boundaries. Is that something that you still deal with today? Is that hard for you to do now?
00:44:27
Speaker 1: It's definitely easier in college again, for sure because Raquel and I are both like, you know, super opening people. We were roommates and we were in a dorm and so we were just kind of like leave the door open, like everyone can come and hang like I'm not Like it wasn't a thing of like, oh, they can't come in my room. Like I was like no, like everyone can come chill Like I'm super like talkative, like I'm gonna talk to anyone.
00:44:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so we would.
00:44:55
Speaker 1: Get a little annoyed because in the moments where like her and I just went into like watch a movie and like just be alone, or like if I'm just chilling in my room or whatever, then you know people are knocking on your door like like are we Oh girl, I won't say that, but but you know, people do feel like at some point our dorm felt like a communal space, like it was starting to feel like people thought it was like the party room. It's like, oh, you're just gonna go to Rock Cal and Lucky's and you know, hang out, and it was super fun for that time, but you know at other times it's like I just need personal space.
00:45:36
Speaker 2: Like is it hard for you to say no at.
00:45:38
Speaker 1: That time, yes, okay, because I think I really was eager to make friends. And also sometimes when you come from you know, nice means or you were you know, a celebrity child or whatever, people kind of think you're.
00:45:54
Speaker 2: A person nickity or like they'll think ny is.
00:45:58
Speaker 1: True, and so you want to overcomp and super nice because it's so easy for people to be like she's she's she stuck.
00:46:07
Speaker 2: Up, she's not nice whatever, whatever.
00:46:10
Speaker 1: And so I definitely at that time too, when people were finding out that about me. Also, a lot of the girls were not nice to me when I got to college, and I've just kind of was like, you know, I'm like killing with kindness type of person. So I was always just you know, welcoming Lenda hand. But again, when you're a celebrity, which I am not. But I noticed from my father is that people feel like it's so interesting that people do this, but they feel like they have like.
00:46:43
Speaker 2: They feel like they know you, like, you know, they need to develop these parasocial relationships with you. They watch you for years.
00:46:50
Speaker 1: And so they feel like they know bits about your life and you know, they feel like you know that they can you know, you know, shoot the ship with you and you know, fun at you and you know, do whatever. And it's kind of like, okay, well you're a stranger. Yeah, And like also they you know, there isn't a lot of boundaries. I remember we were my family took a trip to Morocco, and this was also when I realized my dad was famous, because I was like, we're in Morocco.
00:47:20
Speaker 2: Who knows you in Morocco? Daddy is a big deal. Yeah.
00:47:23
Speaker 1: I was like so what And this group of women followed him into the bathroom.
00:47:28
Speaker 2: No, they did not, they were She didn't.
00:47:32
Speaker 1: Do anything, she just she was just in her salmon. No, she they followed him into the bathroom, like banging on his stall, like they were so excited. And my dad is so chill because he always understands, like, you know, people are excited, like this is their moment. But that's like a crazy violation of personal space, Like that's actually wild.
00:47:54
Speaker 2: You're not you do not have security. We were in Morocco.
00:48:02
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we did have security there, and so they helped him, but it wasn't like the same way where we would have had security in like the States. Okay, but because it was just us like traveling. My brother was living in Spain at the time, and so we went to go visit him and then we took a trip to Morocco. So it was kind of like on a whim situation. Someone was there to help him. But I was I was dumbfounded. I was like, oh my god, my dad was really famous because I was like, we're in Morocco. Who knows at But definitely that's kind of the same thing of just like the crossing of boundaries and you know, the other thing is like people feel like they're entitled to that time because the moment is so big for them. And so if we're having a family dinner, you know, there will be times where like my dad might have taken me to dinner and like I'm trying to talk to him about something really serious, or like I got in a fight with my boyfriend and I need this thing, or I feel really ugly today, like I have a pimple, and like someone just comes up and interrupts, and you know, and it's never a big deal, and I'm always super happy because you don't know how long they've waited for that photo or like that moment. But you know, it is kind of like a it is kind of like a sobering moment. Sometimes it like kind of brings you back into into reality. But I think those would be the only challenges. It's just definitely trying to find like genuine friendships for sure, more so an issue when I got to college and you know, like out in the world. And then yeah, just the saying no thing for sure is a thing.
00:49:47
Speaker 3: Something I I'm thirty about to be thirty five. I recently, within like the last three years, learned how to do that.
00:49:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're hard. Yeah, but it's it's great that you're learning now. Yeah, it's great.
00:49:57
Speaker 4: Do you feel like people had assumptions about you because of who your dad is, like who you would be become, who you were who you become?
00:50:05
Speaker 1: Certainly, yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely. I do think that.
00:50:09
Speaker 2: People typically have like that kind of stuck up notion stereot which is far thank you so much.
00:50:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, But like I said, I'm just a kind of like, welp, like I don't yeah, I don't need a I don't need I don't need a lot of things. That also comes up in dating a lot too, because you know, my dad is a big gift giver and he's you know, the best. But I think people feel like, you know, you come from all this stuff and all the cars and all of this, and so guys kind of get intimidated that they can't give you that, and like, I'm like that sounds terrible, but I'm a pretty cheap date. Like I just want to be happy, Like I just want to be happy and fed. And so if that means you already you have, and so if that means that the day is getting like those hot dogs from Costco. Yeah, it's a beautiful day.
00:51:07
Speaker 2: Dogs are so good. I have that, but they're so good.
00:51:10
Speaker 3: But you said, you mentioned that being genuine is important to you, So that is the most importantly.
00:51:15
Speaker 2: It has nothing to do.
00:51:16
Speaker 1: With the matial thing. No, it has nothing to do with the material things at all. As long as it's heartfelt, that's like the only thing I care about. So I definitely do think that people, you know, have kind of assumptions of me that I'll be a little stuck up, or I'll need things to be happy, you know, a certain way, or you know certain things are too good for me or I'm too good for whatever, and I just I never even think like that.
00:51:42
Speaker 4: So would you ever like make the first move just because you know, like you know, he's not you Just like, no, you need to ask me, You.
00:51:49
Speaker 2: Need I do a casion. Okay, I mean that's my girl.
00:51:59
Speaker 1: I'm not if if the vibe weren't Yes, it's so vibe dependent it is not.
00:52:08
Speaker 2: I don't know that's trick. You wouldn't slide to the d M. No, I can't do that. Okay.
00:52:16
Speaker 1: I'm good with in person convos. I'm very much the type of person like if I'm making like eye contact with someone and they're not talking to me yet, Like I'll just be like, what's your name?
00:52:27
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, the eyes a little bit. Yes, let's just stop doing this, she said. Let's just it's ridiculous. They don't know how to get it out. Helping them out a little bit, let's just cut. Let's just cut.
00:52:40
Speaker 3: I mean, you're stunnying. So I can understand that, even people who don't know who your father is, like, you're stunning.
00:52:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's yeah, soting. So you helping people out because I know people that would be like, I don't care if you can't speak to me.
00:52:57
Speaker 3: It's like, oh my god, yeah star he just scar job.
00:53:02
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:53:02
Speaker 1: I can kind of tell when when guys are afraid.
00:53:06
Speaker 2: I kind of like when you're afraid.
00:53:08
Speaker 4: So lucky, okay, lucky.
00:53:11
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll usually cut the attention. But I can't slide into anything that's fair.
00:53:16
Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair.
00:53:18
Speaker 1: And I can only get to a certain point and then I'll like stop trying.
00:53:22
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but I like to be approached.
00:53:25
Speaker 1: I fear I think we all we all approach me please, Yeah, that's part of I'll make it easy for you too, and it's like men, that's part of your job.
00:53:35
Speaker 2: That is your job.
00:53:36
Speaker 4: Don't go And I know we're the women's movement and all this, but some stuff needs to stay the.
00:53:41
Speaker 2: Same exactly, exactly exactly. Yeah.
00:53:45
Speaker 3: So you are a creator naturally it seems like about it, and you're a dancer and you express yourself through creativity. You have a lip glass line I do called pretty Lucky Lips.
00:53:58
Speaker 2: So what inspired pretty Lucky Lips? Well, I had.
00:54:05
Speaker 1: Again, like I just there was always something creative happening in the mix when I was much younger. So my mom is a costumer and she really wanted That's actually how my parents met. Oh yeah, they met on set because I don't know what show it was, but my dad was on a show and my mom was head of costuming do and so she like put on his jacket and my dad was like, you have all my jacket and my mom.
00:54:34
Speaker 2: Was like, it's my jacket.
00:54:36
Speaker 1: I'm the head of costuming, and so that they kind of like it's actually really cute. But so she, you know, taught me how to sew. I would go to sewing camps and she's like so.
00:54:49
Speaker 2: Cool, honey, No, she really really does not. But she had us in everything under my set. She was so serious. She's like, you guys are gonna to be.
00:55:03
Speaker 1: Something something, And she always tells me that I need to have now. She always is like, you have to have a job that AI can't take over. So she's like, yeah, she always tells me that, always, always, always. She really wants me and Raquel to go to Barbary school. She wants us to be barbers because she's like, no robot can be a barber.
00:55:22
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, it's true. But just the way that she's thinking and the way that she is encouraging you, she's forward thinking. She love it. She's the best. She's literally it.
00:55:31
Speaker 1: But I went to a lot of sewing schools and I was always obsessed with skirts, so she was like, oh, let's do a skirt line. And it was never something that occurred to me, but I just thought it was. I was really really young, and I thought it was cool that I could have a line of things I made, and so that kind of, you know, connected the business juices flowing.
00:55:54
Speaker 2: In my head. I always thought as I got older, I always thought I was going to be a creative.
00:55:58
Speaker 1: Director because I was obsessed with dance like it was literally my whole life. I was a competitive dancer for years. I had like won a bunch of titles. I choreographed a lot of stuff.
00:56:12
Speaker 2: I had like.
00:56:13
Speaker 1: Guest choreographed, and you know, I had done a lot of things. I was captain of the cheer team. I like, I you know, used to style photo shoots for people. I used to put together concepts for photo shoots. So I always thought that would be my my eventual lane.
00:56:31
Speaker 2: Like I would.
00:56:34
Speaker 1: Creative direct, choreographed, you know, shows or music videos or something. I didn't quite know how to make that a bit like I had a business, how to make it a thing. I didn't really know how to do it, but I just knew I was good at it. I knew I knew I was good at making things look nice. That was the only thing that I I knew in my head that I was really good at. And so I took a my mom again. I'm so glad I can talk about this now. But she would make us do all these things, or I'd be.
00:57:09
Speaker 2: Like this is pointless, like this is so useless.
00:57:12
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, And then later on it's like the best thing I've gets the best thing I did.
00:57:17
Speaker 2: So I went to during COVID. I'm like miserable. It's like my senior year and she made us do this business camp and senior year of camp. I need to go to her school. I need to go to a camp. We need to go to Mama camp.
00:57:31
Speaker 1: That's the Lorna Kyle school of hard she always had us. I had to go to I had to go to a debate camp. I had to do the French camp, and then this business camp.
00:57:42
Speaker 2: It was a real estate and business camp. How she really was setting the foundation for you. She was not.
00:57:48
Speaker 1: It wasn't intensive and so you got into it was a competition. You got into groups and you take this bit of real estate and you flip it with another with a busy this idea, like to construct a business idea out of this piece.
00:58:02
Speaker 2: Of real estate. So it was really cool.
00:58:05
Speaker 1: And it was through Cornell University.
00:58:07
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it.
00:58:08
Speaker 1: Was really really cool actually, but it was during COVID, so had to be online, which was why I was like, this sucks. But it would have been fun if I was able to go there and like the world wasn't shut down. Yeah, but I was like, girl, this is miserable, but I won the competition, stop gagged. I won the competition, and then I was like, WHOA like business. I was like, wow, that's so cool, like it was, yeah, it was really really amazing actually, and so then that kind of again ignited started to propel this the idea for business. I got really into makeup. I actually famously hated makeup because I was a competitive dancer and you have to wear oh.
00:58:52
Speaker 2: You have to wear that red lips.
00:58:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, not the red lips.
00:58:55
Speaker 1: So it's so that it was movie.
00:59:01
Speaker 2: Ruby. It had to be ruby.
00:59:04
Speaker 1: Rude and I was and those wings not the wing, yes, the last the same.
00:59:11
Speaker 2: It was a lot.
00:59:12
Speaker 1: It was a lot lot, and so and my mom would come to the competition with me with her little makeup bag and I'd be like, oh girl, please don't.
00:59:20
Speaker 2: Put that on. Like I just hated it.
00:59:22
Speaker 1: And I also had ezema, so I had like full body ema type.
00:59:28
Speaker 2: It was not cute.
00:59:29
Speaker 1: And so I just would feel like my lips would get so itchy, like scratching, you know, stuff off, or I would feel so uncomfortable wearing makeup, and so I just did not like it. I eventually, when you know, you get into high school, I was like, ooh, I want lip gloss and like I want to start wearing makeups. Yeah, and so I would like go to like the beauty store and get like clear, like.
00:59:54
Speaker 5: Girl Clear.
00:59:58
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. And so I just became obsessed with that. And then I just got really into makeup.
01:00:05
Speaker 1: I started really getting I thought I was gonna transition into doing like makeup for film.
01:00:10
Speaker 2: And television and like theater, okay.
01:00:12
Speaker 1: And so then during my gap year, I had expressed that to my family and they're like, okay, well.
01:00:17
Speaker 2: You should go to make up school. So I did too.
01:00:20
Speaker 1: I did a cosmemetic for USUS.
01:00:24
Speaker 2: It was really cool.
01:00:24
Speaker 1: I got a cosmetic certification from a school in Spain, in Barcelona, and I was there for maybe like three two to three months, and then I went to the Makeup Forever Academy in Paris, and then I was there for a lot longer. And that one was like super intense, and that's when I really kind of cemented everything. And that was like you like are in school and all of my instruction was in French.
01:00:51
Speaker 2: Okay, let's pause.
01:00:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, So after your after you went overseas and you did your cosmetology cosmetology. When did this get birthed? How soon was that it got birthed during so during all of you Wow, so it actually was birthed.
01:01:11
Speaker 1: During COVID, but nothing was open. The idea was there, but nothing could actually come into fruition because like China was shut down, everything was shut.
01:01:21
Speaker 3: Who So the formulas and you figuring out how to get it into this packaging?
01:01:25
Speaker 2: When did that start? That started around twenty twenty. I graduated twenty one.
01:01:34
Speaker 3: So I guess I'm trying to figure out like the timeline. So it's COVID, You're going to cosmetology school, you're learning the lay of the land, and then.
01:01:42
Speaker 2: Just stuck on their mom for telling about the French.
01:01:46
Speaker 4: Yes, and then she goes back, yes, you're in French school.
01:01:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is wild. No, she was serious, she knew, I mean she was serious.
01:01:56
Speaker 1: Well she already we had already been going to France and going to school there every single summer, and so we would go to school there and everything would be in French. We had a friend out there who would take us. She would take me to school. I'd go to school for like three hours and then she would just talk to me all day and actually, the friend that we had that lived there was.
01:02:20
Speaker 2: A makeup artist.
01:02:21
Speaker 1: I actually should mention that because that's actually kind of how I got into it. When I was sixteen and I went to France over the summer. We had so we used to have a nanny in California, and that nanny had a friend that still.
01:02:37
Speaker 2: Lived in France.
01:02:39
Speaker 1: So her nannie was from Paris, and so her friend that lived in France said, oh, when they come out here, I'll just I'll take her around and I'll, you know, be with her for when she's not in school. And so that's exactly what she did. She picked me up in the morning, she'd take me to school, she taught me how to use the metro in Paris, and then afterwards you would go do her little adventures and she.
01:03:01
Speaker 2: Would talk to me.
01:03:02
Speaker 1: She didn't know me English, so she would talk to me all day in French. And she was a makeup artist for do yor Okay. And so that was the time when I started to see because at that time I hated makeup, and that was the time where I started to see that makeup was really really cool because I remember we went to a she had a photo shoot to do She used to do the makeup for Miss France and we had a photo shoot to do for her, and she was like turning her into a lion and she was doing all of this like amazing work on her face and it just like transported her. And I remember being absolutely amazed that makeup.
01:03:42
Speaker 2: Could do that type of that type of transformation.
01:03:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and so I just I thought it was absolutely amazing, Like I just thought it was the best thing ever. And so that was kind of watching her do that was kind of the moment where it started to kick in for me.
01:03:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was absolutely her. She was a story. Yeah.
01:04:04
Speaker 1: And so then years later, when I was eighteen, I ended up going to the Makeup Forever School. The idea was already in my head about pretty lucky, but there was not really a way to kick start it into like formulas and this and that. I think we had tried a little bit before I had started traveling, like that summer before I started traveling, but we hadn't we hadn't found exactly what it was going to be. It was going to look actually like completely different, okay, like everything was. And then I took my year of traveling. I finished at the Makeup Forever Academy got my certifications, I came back. My mom made me go to lash school as well. She wanted maybe a lash test.
01:04:50
Speaker 3: Like she's so we could do pretty lucky lashes.
01:04:56
Speaker 2: Yes exactly. No, she was making sure there was the beginning of a brand.
01:05:02
Speaker 1: Yes for you, Pretty Lucky lips is not going to just be lips. Hopefully it's going pretty lucky about it.
01:05:10
Speaker 4: Without telling all your secrets, like how do you plan on how would you like to scale the business?
01:05:15
Speaker 1: So we actually have thought about doing lashes next, because a lip and a lash.
01:05:19
Speaker 2: Yeah absolutely our need.
01:05:20
Speaker 1: Okay, honestly, okay, I love lash lips, yeah exactly, And so we're trying to kind of also in that kind of French aesthetic of things as well. Something I learned from going to school out there is French women are very.
01:05:36
Speaker 2: Minimal, very I wouldn't have thought that.
01:05:39
Speaker 1: Very, very, very minimal, very chic. They love a bare face and like a bolt.
01:05:44
Speaker 4: It's like skincare almost like skincare makeup, no makeup makeup.
01:05:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, they love a bold lip, a little mass scara maybe and you know, maybe a cheek tint like a pinch, just like the very minimal, and so I think kind of in that same vein the idea of having a company that's just lashes and lips is like in that same kind of you know, minimal.
01:06:12
Speaker 4: Asthetic, very fresh, and that's but it's classic though it will never go out and you can have the brand ever never exactly.
01:06:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very smart. So you're building this brand.
01:06:24
Speaker 3: What is it like to build something outside of your father?
01:06:29
Speaker 1: It's interesting, Yeah, you know what, I always think about that because I think in my roommate and best friend, I always have the conversation about being called a NEPO baby or a NEPO child, and that's not something that ever really we never it never, it never really we don't think of it. Of course people call us that, but I don't. It doesn't, it doesn't. It didn't compute to me that that's what I was because my father's not a the cosmetic space.
01:07:02
Speaker 3: You've studied and you've went to school, studied, that can't be.
01:07:07
Speaker 2: Something that's attached to exactly study.
01:07:14
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I think just I think people assume, you know, sometimes when you're like a celebrity child and you have like a business now that you're like not really in those meetings and like, you know, you're just slapping your name on something falls on your lab exactly exactly. But it just really wasn't that type of situation. I had to be in every single meeting. I was on every single email thread still am like it's it's an obsession for me and so and also the I had to prove to my parents that I really wanted it, like my parents, having a business is an investment. And thank god my parents believe in me enough. But I had to really prove to them, like I had to make business plans and like present it to them and be like this is my business like they're like they're investors, like and they took it seriously like it was.
01:08:08
Speaker 2: It was a very serious ordeal. They had to. They really had to know that I was I was in it to win him.
01:08:15
Speaker 4: They had to make sense for them because ye, their risk exactly like it needs to make exactly and so they can get you to the door, but they can't the work has to be done.
01:08:24
Speaker 2: By one thous door. What are you get?
01:08:29
Speaker 1: And so my dad didn't come to any meetings like it's like my like he wasn't. I don't even know if he knew I was like really doing it like it wasn't.
01:08:37
Speaker 2: It wasn't.
01:08:39
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, you know, supposed to be an extension of him. And so I just think, I mean.
01:08:46
Speaker 2: I feel so.
01:08:49
Speaker 1: Because we always did things growing up and made things that didn't feel like they were.
01:08:54
Speaker 2: Attached to him.
01:08:56
Speaker 1: It didn't feel any different than you know, going to a dance competition or you know, being in a school play or doing this or doing that. It didn't feel any different in that sense. But I did have the feeling even at that time when I was eighteen. I say that, like I'm so much older now I was four years ago, but I say that like, even at that time, I knew that it was going to be big for me, and I took it so serious and I was, you know, really really hyper and excited about it.
01:09:32
Speaker 2: And so I was just excited, like I really wanted to get the ball rolling. Yeah.
01:09:35
Speaker 1: No one tells you though, when you start businesses that it takes a long time. And so that was the hardest thing I had to grapple with, is that it was going to take me four years to eventually.
01:09:45
Speaker 2: Get it to where it is.
01:09:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I just kept on, like just praying and like just hoping and wishing and honestly thank God for that, because if I had rushed the process, slapped something on a bottle and just you know, put it out there, then I would have not I wouldn't have had the team.
01:10:06
Speaker 2: That I have now. Shout out the team.
01:10:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't have had, you know, the brand identity and the image I had. Now throughout the four years, I grew so much as a person in in what I liked and what I wanted and what was important to me, and that translated into the brand as well.
01:10:28
Speaker 2: It's like so much aesthetically yeah.
01:10:31
Speaker 1: And like nothing would have been the same if I had rushed the process and just been like, Okay, let's drop it, because you know, you you tell people like, oh, this is what I want to do, and then they're like, oh, where is it?
01:10:43
Speaker 2: And then it's kind of like, well, TikTok, where is it?
01:10:46
Speaker 3: Where you were you were building it and you were getting a lot of you know, studying and intension behind it. Let's take a look at what you know for the sake of time. I know we have a little bit of time left. I I do want you to chew well. First of all tell us what we have the shades, and you know, pick a shade that represents legacy.
01:11:12
Speaker 2: Tell us about the formula. Well, yeah, the formulas, what the colors are, and.
01:11:15
Speaker 1: How you got this is only half the line? Should we show all the camp like do we need to pick them up at the end? So this is right? This is Goddess that's kissed me. I believe that's I think that's her. And then that at the end is obsessed.
01:11:32
Speaker 2: How do you come up with the name.
01:11:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a combination of me and my mom. Okay, yeah, I my mom is she has like way cuter like name ideas than me.
01:11:44
Speaker 2: Was cute. They're so cute.
01:11:46
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it just kind of like they blossomed from how they feel like.
01:11:51
Speaker 2: I don't think there wasn't a true kind of theme to them.
01:11:57
Speaker 1: I do try to pick sayings or things that I say so and just.
01:12:03
Speaker 2: Like how it feels like.
01:12:04
Speaker 1: I we called this one obsessed because I was like, I'm obsessed with that color.
01:12:07
Speaker 2: I love it.
01:12:11
Speaker 3: Thank you so, So before we transition into our next segment, is there a specific shade that represents legacy? I will say, I'm going to pick up this one Okay, I'll say her represents legacy just because it was the first shade that I believe. This was one of the first ones I tried, and it was important to me. This is also a color I keep in my bag at all times.
01:12:45
Speaker 2: Is that what you're wearing?
01:12:46
Speaker 1: Yes, I quite literally always always have one of these in my bag. It's just like the perfect kind of gold shimmer.
01:12:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does look it's super light.
01:12:59
Speaker 1: It really really it comes on. It's not even iridescent. It just has this like very light kind of clear, but also like coated shimmer.
01:13:08
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:13:10
Speaker 1: And it's also our like most cell like sold out one right now.
01:13:15
Speaker 2: So I cause your flagship color. This is our flagship. I love that. Where do you see this in five years?
01:13:20
Speaker 3: Like, what's the what's the hope and the dream for Pretty Lucky Lips.
01:13:23
Speaker 2: The hope in the.
01:13:24
Speaker 1: Dream for Pretty Lucky Lips is that it becomes a all encompassing beauty brand. I'd like to do body, I'd like to do Fragrance, I I want to do it all. So in five years, I hope that it's not just Pretty Lucky Lips.
01:13:39
Speaker 2: I hope that it's.
01:13:41
Speaker 3: Cheers exactly Lucky Lip Cheers to your pretty lucky lips. Good for you, sis, you're so young, so wise and already doing so much.
01:13:50
Speaker 2: Good for you girls. Thank you guys.
01:13:52
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, So we have a segment on board to the game called Impersonating Greatness. It's where we ask our guests to love impersonate their parents. So give us Cedric but the dad edition.
01:14:07
Speaker 1: The dad Edition, I don't know, there's not a real way to impersonate it.
01:14:12
Speaker 2: But because he has a terrible tactic of taking my food.
01:14:19
Speaker 1: Every time I'm eating something, he always is like, baby, can let me get some? Like always, always, always, so he's like, can I can I have a little a little piece of bacon? Just give me a little corner? Like he always takes my food. So that's something I would say, or a saying that reminds me of him is do you want to share a steak?
01:14:43
Speaker 2: That's what he always says, do you want to share a steak?
01:14:47
Speaker 1: Because we're the only people in our family that eat meat.
01:14:49
Speaker 2: Oh, so he's always like, do you want to share a steak? Oh? Thing, milque. Is there a lesson that he's taught you that has stuff?
01:15:01
Speaker 1: I think the lesson that he's taught me that's stuck the most. Is definitely some dating advice.
01:15:08
Speaker 2: And just to not.
01:15:11
Speaker 1: Ever dull my sparkle down for anyone. Yeah, that's definitely something that he always always always instills in me and just to continue shining no matter no matter what. So yeah, good advice, great advice. So we also have a segment on board to the game called Legacy Objects.
01:15:34
Speaker 3: It's where our guess brings something small that holds a big story, an item that represents where they come from, what they carry with them, and how legacy shows up in everyday life. So Lucky, what did you bring today?
01:15:48
Speaker 2: I brought I.
01:15:49
Speaker 1: Don't know if it's allowed. I brought a photo. Yeah, but it's on my phone. Yeah, okay, I.
01:15:54
Speaker 2: Didn't know that was girl.
01:15:57
Speaker 3: It's anything, it's anything that represents you ring in a pin, yeah, a microphone. We've had pictures before, bra, Yeah that is adorable.
01:16:07
Speaker 2: Okay, well we have. I just think my favorite thing.
01:16:16
Speaker 1: Ever is I'm my family calls me like like just like.
01:16:22
Speaker 2: A photo album. So you take all the pictures. I take all the pictures, but.
01:16:26
Speaker 1: I also find oh, picture pictures okay, and I don't I think they're always really confused as to like how I've found it, because they're like what, what, like, what are you digging through?
01:16:38
Speaker 2: Like you to find these?
01:16:41
Speaker 1: But I really do dig because I think it's so cute, just like to have all these old photos. But I brought this photo of mine of my brother and I sleeping on my die.
01:16:56
Speaker 2: And we just look so cute. So what is that picture mean to you? I just think it's so sweet.
01:17:03
Speaker 1: And I'm always constantly in this position with my father. I'm always cuddling him in some way.
01:17:09
Speaker 2: Oh look at you.
01:17:11
Speaker 1: Yes, and especially at this time. We used to take naps together. That was like our time together. Yes, because he's always so tired. Yeah, because he's always I'm pretty sure he's like narcoleptic or something. He's like always sleeping.
01:17:23
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so I just think this picture is really sweet. We were.
01:17:30
Speaker 1: We were traveling here, we went somewhere for a show, and so I just think it's adorable.
01:17:37
Speaker 2: Just my brother and I represents how important family is.
01:17:40
Speaker 3: Yes, And no matter how busy your dad is and what he has going on, and we all know he has so much on his plate, he makes time for you.
01:17:48
Speaker 2: Always, family's children.
01:17:50
Speaker 3: So that's beautiful, always, always, always, that's beautiful, He's the best. Yes, any dad, what's one legacy that you would want to be remembered for? Like, what legacy are you creating? And what's one thing you would say to your dad?
01:18:06
Speaker 2: It's like a double course.
01:18:08
Speaker 1: I think one legacy I want to be remembered for, definitely, And something that we try to pour into Pretty Lucky as a brand is authenticity. We talked a little bit before about being genuine. Authenticity is definitely at the corner and like one of the pillars of Pretty Lucky and what we try to do to make everyone feel like the best version of themselves. And so something I personally I always want to do is I always want to talk. I'd like to be what's it called. Oh, I'd like to be someone who makes everyone feel like someone? Yes, no, it does, okay, Yeah, So I always, always, always, I just I just want to make people feel good. So I hope that that's what people are saying about me not around and I hope that's the legacy that I leave behind.
01:19:02
Speaker 3: Well, you have made us feel phenomenal in this last hour and a half, like you really are a bundle of joy, and so that is a legacy that you have left with Timay and I if there's one thing that you could say to your dad, what would you say?
01:19:16
Speaker 1: I'd say, father, I love you, and that you're so hard working and just such a chiller and like and I'm really glad that you're my dad.
01:19:28
Speaker 2: Like, honestly, he's really he's really, truly, truly the best. He's a really great father. We love Cedric. He really is just like a big teddy bear. It's just the best, you know. But we also have one more surprise for you. We can't.
01:19:40
Speaker 3: We can't end the day without having a little bit of a surprise.
01:19:45
Speaker 2: So, oh, this is petrifying.
01:19:54
Speaker 5: Hey, what's that big shout out? Man? I just wanted to I've seen a big COMMENDU really proud of you to my daughter Lucky Rose, founder of Pretty Lucky Lips and Pretty Lucky Cosmetics. You know you worked very hard on this project. Man, many years of having an adoration for the world of skincare and makeup and you know, had a dream about doing this and you started to lock in on the idea and you put that time in. You really did. I've watched you be on zoom meetings for hours to care about the marketing, the packaging, the way that you source it, in what you were actually bringing to the marketplace, the idea. You've been through so many photo shoots and marketing campaigns and hires and non hires, and the process that it takes to build something people don't know. These things don't happen overnight, and you showed dedication to that all while being great and kind and purposeful about your goals and although out doing that as a college student. So I'm proud of you. Your grades are strong, your friendship group is great, your smile is radiant, your attitude is positive. And yet you are building something that will be a legacy for you. You've got your name on it and you care about it that it does represent that. So congratulations to you. Keep up the good work, keep being a great example. Keep letting that light shine from deep with inside you, and you go forth and you do great things. All right? I love you. I love you, know I do you know I'll be having favorites. But come on now we me go all all right, face, I love you so much, man, I'd be great. Hope this podcast is great, Mariah, keep rocking. Know me and your dad is my dog right there. But again, I appreciate that. Boring to the Game podcast is hot. I love what it's all about. And again you continue to strive and let your own light shine and become your own individual star in this world. I love it. All right, God bless all right, Lucky, all right, thank you.
01:22:18
Speaker 2: Sadie was so cute. So he loves his baby. I love him.
01:22:24
Speaker 1: I was like when I saw his little face, I was like, oh my god, my own trouble.
01:22:27
Speaker 3: No, he love you so much. She loves you so much, and he even just to wrap this. You work extremely hard, and that is something again, the biggest stereotype about children in this industry is that everything is handed, and Tamara has mentioned it. Our dads and your mom can help you get into a door, but it's still up to you to work, to stay in there, to navigate those relationships, to network, to work hard. And that's what you're doing. You're you're studying, you're trying to run a business. So good for you.
01:22:59
Speaker 2: Keep going. We're so proud of you.
01:23:01
Speaker 3: You have a support system, you have a village who's there to help just continue lifting you up.
01:23:06
Speaker 2: So you're doing the thing. Girl.
01:23:08
Speaker 3: You're so beautiful, and thank you for joining us.
01:23:12
Speaker 1: This is thank you guys for having this.
01:23:16
Speaker 2: Was it? It was so you really do. You're a great storyteller.
01:23:22
Speaker 3: This is beautiful. So I hope you're not nervous next time you get on the cab.
01:23:26
Speaker 2: This is something you're used to because you're a natural. That's what I'm saying. You're a natural.
01:23:32
Speaker 3: You're a natural. Alrighty, thank you for joining us today.
01:23:36
Speaker 2: I'm Warren. To the game.
01:23:37
Speaker 3: I'm your host Maria, and make sure to like, follow, subscribe, share, and we'll see you next time.
01:23:45
Speaker 2: Yeah. Good