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Speaker 1: We're live. Welcome to Jenkins. Finger guns, finger pistols, you love.
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Speaker 2: This might be your thing, like the last three openings, right?
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Speaker 1: Am I tripping? Big energy from this guy. I don't know. You know?
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Speaker 3: Is that like an American sickness that I just like, you just shoot some fake guns and start the podcast?
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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, yeah. That'll get the energy flowing. Sometimes like... The blood pumping. The place that podcasts came from.
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Speaker 4: Like the origins of something sometimes just steep into you without even realizing it, you know?
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Speaker 1: It's like that's the origins of podcasts that just sort of like... Yeah. I don't know. It just, yeah.
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Speaker 3: The spirit was moving through me. Welcome to Jenkins and Jones independently owned and operated since 2025.
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Speaker 1: It is Sunday, August 30th.
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Speaker 3: And we have got the championship results from beast bracket three, the 1996 edition.
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Speaker 1: And you won't believe who won 1996.
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Speaker 3: As always, we're hosted by LeJethro Jenkins, AKA John.
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Speaker 1: What's up, Bubbas? I'm Garty B, AKA Mike. Mother fucking Mike. Mike.
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Speaker 3: And we're produced, as always, by the lovely and talented Jackson Saffron.
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Speaker 1: What up? Grizzly beard, Jackson Saffron. It just needs a trim, that's all. You think so? I mean, it definitely does. Is it going over the front lip? Yeah, it's been over the front lip.
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Speaker 4: Like I was saying to Mike before, I just knew I needed to trim it around this time because.
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Speaker 1: We're about to go on a trip.
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Speaker 4: And it was sort of an in-between amount of time where I was like, it was like a week out. And I was like, oh, I don't really want to trim it now. The time is going to be off. So now I've waited well past the threshold. It's not like it's that big of a deal, but it definitely needs to trim.
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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, John got run over by a lawnmower, as my grandfather would say. Hey, somebody said I'm looking overly handsome. Hey, man, I really appreciate this. Oh, man, nigga. You don't get this as much no more, nigga. And this is my actual face. You feel me? I trimmed it too low, bro. I got some good clips. I was like, yikes. And then you got to even it up. Yeah, I had to even it up. You got to thug it out type shit. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: Like a hamburger meat But if y'all think that's handsome, appreciate.
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Speaker 3: You Rishi making the point For those who are new to Jenkins and Jones That the chat did indeed have to bully Jackson Into growing.
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Speaker 4: That beard out That is true But yeah, I mean, that's probably the simplest way to describe it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how to describe it like that, but that's probably the simplest way. Yeah, I would say so. I owe the chat a lot. I owe the chat a lot. I owe the chat, me getting a PS5 and me having this beard. Two of your top five possessions. I put the pressure on you. I put the real pressure on you.
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Speaker 2: I really feel like I was like, nigga, What the fuck is wrong with you, man? That shit look good as hell. You was lying to yourself.
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Speaker 1: Okay. I think that's... I agree now. I'm happy with it.
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Speaker 4: But I've looked back at some of the pictures from the very early days of it. Not recently, but at some point a while back, I.
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Speaker 1: Looked back at the pictures.
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Speaker 4: It was pretty thin and bare early on.
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Speaker 1: You guys were hyping it up. We can see the vision, though. We just saw it. I feel like it's more seeing potential than you. You were projectable, bro. You were projectable. For sure. We saw that. I had the tools. Yeah. Had the natural ability. Okay. You guys, you guys definitely saw your all NBA. We saw it. We saw into the future. And I looked back and I had to measure it. You know what I mean? They didn't look that good.
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Speaker 3: Wingspan was four inches longer than your height.
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Speaker 4: You know, CKP said, imagine if Jackson showed up clean shaven. I did genuinely consider this for my 30th birthday as a, as a bit, because it does, obviously it would obviously make me look a lot younger.
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Speaker 1: And I really considered it.
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Speaker 4: And then when I voiced that, sort of thought process to my girlfriend, Kim. She gave me a look like I had murdered someone.
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Speaker 1: Don't even fucking think about that. I told y'all what Char said. Wasn't she halfway? Like, wasn't she like, I don't know at first? Yes, at first she was like, I don't know. And then once it filled in. Correct. I told y'all what Char said.
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Speaker 3: I have been clean shaven one time in the very long time that my wife and I have been together. She was not a fan of it. No one was a fan of it actually. Cause I had a goatee since I was like 15 years old. It was like, no one had ever seen it.
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Speaker 1: We saw it. We saw it in a picture with, uh, that picture. Huh? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ms.
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Speaker 3: Han.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But, uh, Char said that I was like, I made a joke at some point about shaving my face again. And she said, You can't do that because when you do that, people see us together and think that you must be rich.
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Speaker 1: That's what she said. That's so crazy.
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Speaker 5: That's the last feedback I need.
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Speaker 2: I actually shaved my shit like for a Yahoo like holiday party. I was I forgot to take this and I shaved all of it off like it was.
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Speaker 1: Whoa. I'm butt naked. I don't even a shadow. You feel. Oh.
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Speaker 3: You're so baby faced. You're so baby faced when you completely shave your face.
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Speaker 1: Rather like still joke about it sometimes. I'm sure I would too. No, that is not a, yeah, not, not, not, not my best day.
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Speaker 4: I am going to show up with a shaved head one day and you guys, it's just going to happen one day and you guys are.
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Speaker 1: Going to just. I will. Buzz cut. Yeah. At some point.
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Speaker 2: That should probably be fire on you. Is your head wopsided? You don't know?
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Speaker 1: Okay. I think he'd probably be fired with a beard. That might be a look, Nicky.
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Speaker 4: I've been saying it for a long time. I haven't done it. But at some point, it's just going to happen. I'm just going to show up one day with it.
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Speaker 1: We are without Dragonfly Jones, a.k.a. Tyler.
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Speaker 3: It is he and his lovely wife's anniversary. And so we wish them a happy anniversary and a lovely dinner.
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Speaker 1: Mrs. Jones and Mr. Jones. Mr. and Mrs. Jones.
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Speaker 3: And in Jenkins and Jones tradition... we're all going to go around and say one thing that we love about Tyler.
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Speaker 1: Hmm. Forgot about this. Hmm. My favorite. Don't make me, don't make me go first. I forgot about my, my, my, my favorite bit because of how much I do. We, we, have we done it with Tyler? No. He hasn't. We've done it with each. It's pretty, it's a pretty new, it's a new tradition. Yeah. That's true. That's true. That's true.
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Speaker 3: This is a very superficial thing, and I'll probably circle back and say something more serious after you guys say your things. But I was just saying that John called me last week and we were talking about him being on that.
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Speaker 1: Screen time reducing device for his phone. And I told John.
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Speaker 3: I was like, I truly don't know why I'm on Twitter because I'm friends in real life with the only interesting person.
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Speaker 1: Remaining on that app. It's like, I don't need to see what Tyler tweets about something because he's.
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Speaker 3: My friend and he has like a one of one brain. He's like one of the most interesting people I've ever known. And I'm one of the people that's lucky enough to not need to just, I know what he says.
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Speaker 4: When you put it like that, it is really like, cause you would, cause now I would go to Twitter maybe to see people's reactions about a thing.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 4: But you could just text Tyler. What do you, did you see this? I mean, you could, you could have the best hour of your life.
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Speaker 1: In front of you.
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Speaker 3: Just put it on the topic list. Let's talk about Spider-Man on Thursday, bro.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. That was really thoughtful stuff about Spider-Man.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, uh, John, I mean, there, I don't think there's a nigga that's more solid, like morally.
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Speaker 1: You feel me?
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Speaker 2: Like, I just really feel like he's just a good, person to his core. Like he's so thoughtful and considerate and just truly kind. And I feel like there's just not, I don't think there's ever been people kind like that.
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Speaker 1: Just, just genuinely. I've never been a lot of people like that. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: But I just think he's a truly kind, like morally like sound, like solid.
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Speaker 1: Motherfucker, man. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: So like I said, like that's why I want him to be like my, my, um, I said a couple of times, that's why I want to be my, my kid's godparent.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Godfather.
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Speaker 2: Cause you know, like I might go left and they could try to make some shit shake for these babies, but Tyler, make sure they don't follow me.
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Speaker 1: And I can count on that completely. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 4: So, uh, yeah, man, I was going to be sort of something in a similar vein of, he is such a thoughtful friend.
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Speaker 1: He's so thoughtful as a friend.
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Speaker 4: And, um, And the thing that he brings up multiple times, just sort of casually when we talk about it, not in a way to bring attention to it, but just because of how true it is to Tyler, is he talks about how he would bring a gift for Shola as a godparent. And he was like, every time, of course, I'm bringing a gift for Somi. I'm not going to show up. without a gift for Somi also. I'm just like, and I'm also just not a gift person. Like that's not my receiving. I'm just, it's just like sort of a miss for me. Hand up about it, you know? And so I, every time he says that, which has not happened a couple of times, I'm like, wow, this is such a thoughtful person who really wants to just be as sweet and kind and express his love to all of the people in his life.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. All right. And I know Tyler's going to listen to this. So it'll be good. It'll make him nice and uncomfortable. i don't know if.
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Speaker 3: He actually he might not even be.
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Speaker 2: Uncomfortable i don't think i think it's appreciated i think he's like.
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Speaker 1: This his thing like if somebody says something nice.
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Speaker 2: To him he can't not respond to it because yeah like he's yeah i don't know but yeah i think it's appreciated yeah.
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Speaker 3: All right shall we uh before we get to the results of the beast bracket patreon.com slash jenkins and jones ten dollars a month gets you the following things two extra episodes every week commercial free episodes including of the sunday uh free pods correct access to the discord which is more and more unhinged and hilarious by the week always having a great time on the discord And starting this week, I will be posting in the Discord books that Char and I are giving away for free because we are paring down our book collection and people on the Discord can claim them. They've been asking. They asked me to do that on the book thread. We have some good shit that we're giving away. It's not just like old stuff, whatever. There's some good stuff where it's like, hey, this is a hardcover. We're going to give it to the library, whatever. Our library will only accept one bag at a time. And the amount of books that we are giving away, It will take us a considerable amount of time to donate all the books. So the kids are selling some on eBay. We'll be donating some on the Discord to anyone who wants them. and uh yeah so anyway patreon.com jenkins and jones.
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Speaker 1: Y'all making space for new books or what we doing here.
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Speaker 3: Nah man we just you've been over like there was just like on the floor and shit we just hadn't you know you have kids and you just have shit that piles up quite literally sometimes and so we that you won't even recognize the dining room the next time you're over we painted it.
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Speaker 1: Really like a whole bookshelf's worth of books so now it's no.
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Speaker 3: You guys have so many books We're giving away more books than probably anyone else I know owns, and we still.
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Speaker 1: Have a lot of books. More books than anybody else owns, you know what I mean? Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 4: There will also be, in a couple weeks, just a light tease. Another reason to join the Patreon is there will be an announcement being made that Discord will get early sort of pod news that you'll have to wait to see if you're not behind the paywall.
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Speaker 1: I love when you do that with the glasses, bro. It really makes us realize how bad your eyesight is. It's crazy how bad mine is. Your eyes feel those fucking lenses, bro. Like, jeez. Look at that. It's like a magnifying glass. Flat out, bro. That's how I got, I got both of John's kids on my side. Kids love that shit. You just pull the.
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Speaker 3: Glasses out, make your eyes big. And they're like, Oh, this one, this one's got something. This is like, I can work with this guy. He's not going to just ask me about my day and try and shake my hand, even though I'm talking.
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Speaker 1: All right. Um, let's get to it.
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Speaker 3: The championship results, 1996 beast bracket, beast bracket.
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Speaker 1: Number three. This was a fun ride all summer. Jackie, do you want to, Take us away. Yes.
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Speaker 4: We, for those who missed the last round or whatever, we are at the final with Michael Jordan, the one seed versus Ken Griffey, Jr. The 18 unexpected run from the eight seed salute salutes.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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Speaker 4: And you know, there were some of us that were hoping that Ken Griffey, Jr. Would be able to maybe steal something.
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Speaker 3: Maybe, maybe, maybe I was hoping that I.
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Speaker 1: Was hoping just from a chaos perspective. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Also, I would have felt like I won a bracket that wasn't actually in competition for, if Ken Griffey Jr.
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Speaker 1: Won. I relate to that.
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Speaker 4: It was not to be. Michael Jordan, shocker, defeated Ken Griffey Jr. Would you like to guess which platform, Twitter or Patreon, skewed more towards Michael Jordan?
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Speaker 1: It was pretty close, but I'm just curious. I would say Twitter. I would guess Twitter as well. You're going to say Patreon. Incorrect. Wow. Twitter went 65%. Wow. Patreon, 68%. Slightly more to Michael Jordan. That's closer than I thought it would be, honestly. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Is that the first time Michael Jordan was under 70% on the vote?
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Speaker 1: I think maybe, yeah, I think so.
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Speaker 3: A dominant run by Michael Jordan to become the king of 1996.
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Speaker 4: And another dominant run, Anthony S. won our bracket pool. Anthony, we will be emailing you as well. We will come up with some sort of prize. Congratulations for winning the bracket. It was actually pretty dominant. He was like hundreds of points ahead of second place.
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Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 1: He went crazy. He knew all the shit people were going to think that surprised us.
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Speaker 4: I think he had a beat on Ken Griffey.
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Speaker 1: Should we brainstorm it? Yeah. Should we do a live brainstorm?
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Speaker 4: You got an idea?
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think something MJ related.
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Speaker 3: I could look up my, that MJ card I said I had and see if it's worth money. And if it's worth money, then I would not send it to Anthony S but if it's worth like a reasonable amount of money, if it's worth like $ 30, I would send it to Anthony.
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Speaker 1: I think this is a great idea. That's a great idea. That's so honest and hilarious. I mean, let's be real. I'm not going to send the man a $ 2, 000 basketball.
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Speaker 4: So that's the only question is, are you worried about, I guess it's Michael Jordan. The value is probably not going to spike dramatically at some point, but it's like, you know, if you gave away a, a Chauncey Billups card after, after a couple of weeks in the NBA, it's like, damn, I really thought I was selling at the.
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Speaker 1: Right value spot, but you worry about the value of that card spiking.
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Speaker 3: Okay, what else could we do? Something Michael Jordan related, but that would be funny or interesting. I could sign a copy of Space Jam for him as an extra in Space Jam.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot you're an extra. What does your signature look like, bro? You probably signed a lot of things in your life.
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Speaker 2: If you have a signature you've used, I mean, not papers, but you sign things for people.
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Speaker 1: You've written books and shit.
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Speaker 3: My signature used to be like basically my name in cursive. And then after writing the books and having to sign a lot of books for people, it is now a very abbreviated big cursive MG. Basically it's very janky looking, but you just like, you're, Oh, okay.
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Speaker 1: Well, that could be the gift. Are you funny? He's got to be funny. He's in the chat. I mean, he wants to come on the pod. Let's just say, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Okay, cool. Yeah, we'll just give him a segment. Yeah, tap in. Fuck it. All right. We try to come up with something goofy. He's like, can I come on the pod? Can I be on the podcast for five minutes? Very simple.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. We don't even got to get your address. Congrats to Michael Jordan. They thought he couldn't do it.
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Speaker 4: They thought he couldn't do it. They said, that guy, he can't win this bracket. He proved them all wrong.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. All he had was, you know... Everything, nigga. All he had was everything and a dream, and it worked out. All right.
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Speaker 3: Jackson, as is Beast Bracket tradition, has cut together a special video, which will be on social media on Monday.
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Speaker 1: But Jackson, do you want to debut that live for the people watching the YouTube? Close out the bracket season.
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Speaker 5: Damn, bro.
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Speaker 1: Look at that swing, man. Everyone's favorite. Hey Arnold. Oh, there we go. Love to see that one. That's a line of smarts that if you didn't know. Who, me? I know who she is.
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Speaker 3: Our favorite combination.
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Speaker 1: Congrats to Michael Jordan. Congrats. He did it. He did it. No one believed in him.
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Speaker 3: Hey, I don't know if you guys have ever heard this, but you know, he was cut off of the JV basketball team.
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Speaker 1: As a sophomore. Okay. And it motivated him to win this bracket. That wasn't a sophomore, was it?
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Speaker 3: No, I think it was because at that time, I believe you, their freshman year was not in high school. I think that the story, it's like, he made it sound like it was his big offense. I think it was literally that the coach made him play JV as a sophomore and instead of putting him straight to the varsity team.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was freshman, but either way. And for that, that's really normal.
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Speaker 3: When I, when I laid that man 30 years.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The takeaway should probably not be in Michael. They said he got cut from his team, which I was like, they said he didn't make the basketball. He just played.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. When really the coach did the merciful thing.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, Hey man, I could put you on varsity, but you're going to be like the ninth guy, or you could be the guy on JV.
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Speaker 1: You get a lot of reps, learn the system.
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Speaker 3: Like, And he shit-talked that dude in his Hall of Fame speech for like half the speech.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy we glorified some of that stuff. I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I'm just like the Kobe-MJ mentality thing I feel so disconnected from at this point in my life that it's really, it's starting almost.
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Speaker 1: He was left off the varsity squad as a sophomore. How dare you? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And yes, Miles, he was, he had not yet had the gross. And do we like, it wasn't also nine. Was the team good? Like it's not, not every sophomore. Sometimes the high school team is really good. And then they just, you know, the upperclassmen are really good. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 1: The man was five, nine as a sophomore. He was still human. Of course he, yeah. That makes sense. He was on JV. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Oh, J man was six, four and sixth grade. That's my mega. There's some people that are grown men. Wait, wait. Michael Jordan, 5'9 sophomore.
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Speaker 4: At what age do you think that you, John, could beat Michael Jordan in your basketball prime? You're in your basketball prime. How old is Michael Jordan before he's beating you in one-on-one? Sophomore in high school? Like, he's 5'9, not making.
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Speaker 1: The high school team? No, no, he's killing me. No, my prime, I would have cooked him. That's what I'm saying. Johnny, your prime, you're probably beating a sophomore who's not making varsity. So how old? Like, right before his growth spurt probably is the last moment. I mean, he went to USC as a senior. I'd imagine his junior year, he went crazy.
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Speaker 2: Like, he probably would have smacked me in my junior year.
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Speaker 1: He probably grew between sophomore and junior year or something.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever he got over, like, 6'3, I struggle shooting over people like 6'3.
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Speaker 1: That was a height where I was like, nigga, I... I might not shoot that well today, nigga. You feel me? I'm about to shoot that bitch from the NBA line.
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Speaker 2: You feel me?
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Speaker 1: When he got to 6'3, 6'4. Yeah, that's where we get a little dicey. I'll put him in sixth grade. For your basketball prime?
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Speaker 3: I just don't know at what point. I did not have a one-on-one game.
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Speaker 1: I don't have a one-on-one game either. I was a hard-fouling, put-back rebounder. Yeah. I don't know. You couldn't stop him?
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Speaker 3: I don't know at what age I could stop Michael Jordan on the perimeter. He might have had to be.
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Speaker 1: In sixth grade, bro. Yeah. I'd imagine he was abnormally strong for his age, too, though. I would assume. Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the strength would have probably been a big obstacle too.
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Speaker 1: They're talking about his growth spurt.
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Speaker 3: I remember because I had the.
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Speaker 1: VHS, the Michael Jordan's Playground VHS. I would watch that shit like weekly.
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Speaker 3: And he would talk about wanting so bad to get taller that he would.
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Speaker 1: Go hang on the bars on.
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Speaker 3: The playground rip the dead hangs and just hang there and just wait just please like stretch out and i would i was seriously doing that shit elementary school too like i have to get tall this is how michael jordan did.
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Speaker 4: Hey man whatever works you were pretty tall pretty early so you know whatever worked for you too maybe yeah.
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Speaker 3: Uh michael jordan's brother was five foot nine dunking it's on youtube damn yeah i mean listen.
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Speaker 2: I was dunking in high school too when i was five foot nine really you could dunk a five nine damn yeah i mean i was five nine when i graduated i grew two inches on college for some reason like.
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Speaker 3: Was that a yeah i love i love i love gross bird stories i that is like as a sports writer yeah.
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Speaker 1: I just, I love.
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Speaker 3: Asking people because you learn so much about someone asking them like, when did you get tall? Like it's a total, if you were, if you got tall in fifth grade is totally different. And then like, there's people like, you know, I think Clayton Kershaw's entire growth spurt was between 10th and 11th grade. Like, I think he literally grew like a, like he was like five foot seven and then he was six foot four.
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Speaker 4: Like I went from five, three to five, 10 in the summer, but basically between freshman and sophomore year.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Michael Jordan averaged 27 as a junior. Yeah. I think that's when he was before that. And he was six, three. That was your number, bro.
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Speaker 3: If he was six, two, you might've had him, but six, 27 in high school.
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Speaker 1: I mean, like, I don't know, bro. The athleticism would have been a problem, bro. That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Like I could absolutely see me tripping over myself. trying to stay in front of eighth grade Michael Jordan yeah.
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Speaker 4: I think I think freshman or sophomore year is probably the answer for me probably freshman or sophomore year yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah I don't got the I don't got the hips the bed I got none of it brother I didn't like I mean I'm sliding my ass off but.
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Speaker 1: You would have put forth the effort that's what you're saying.
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Speaker 3: I would definitely have put forth the effort I could promise you that much all right uh That's.
00:23:55
Speaker 1: A great question. I've never thought about that. It was a great question. Was that Jackson's or was someone in the shot? That was Jackson. That was all Jackson, bro.
00:24:06
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan's not coming up with a question like that. Did you see that Michael Jordan, they're not doing that NBC bullshit with him again?
00:24:12
Speaker 1: Why? Because it was just so bland? Because it was the wacky shit of all time. It was a lot of nothing.
00:24:17
Speaker 3: They spent $ 30 million to get clowned by all of America for how much Michael Jordan fucking played in their face.
00:24:26
Speaker 1: I'll give you an hour. You can cut that shit up.
00:24:31
Speaker 3: Here's my only stipulations. I won't answer any interesting questions. I won't comment on anything that is happening currently. I'll talk about winning though.
00:24:41
Speaker 1: Like I could talk to you about winning. What was the purpose?
00:24:45
Speaker 2: Like what did they think was going to happen with the gave him those stipulations? They just thought because he's MJ people will lock in.
00:24:51
Speaker 1: Yeah. He's competing with a lot more than he was in 96. You know what I mean? As far as like people, entertainment, you know what I mean? Yes. Yes.
00:25:04
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:25:04
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:25:04
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:25:05
Speaker 1: All right. We do have a couple. We got a little news item to get to here and then we got to keep up with the week. News item. Okay.
00:25:14
Speaker 3: We're generally an anti-victim blaming podcast in all forms.
00:25:20
Speaker 1: What happened?
00:25:23
Speaker 3: I am really struggling to find sympathy for the people who got scammed by this fake 49er football player.
00:25:31
Speaker 1: I'm really struggling.
00:25:33
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. I saw you posted it. I don't know completely what happened. I saw like, I'm like, I'm like, that person joking or was it, but they seriously scared people with that.
00:25:44
Speaker 3: He scammed $ 1. 3 million from 50 people, John.
00:25:49
Speaker 1: Oh nigga. Like, okay. That's a lot of money from only 10 people. Can you explain Mike? Yeah. I don't get that. There was a dude.
00:25:59
Speaker 3: Who was pretending on his Instagram to be a member of the San Francisco 49ers for the last couple of seasons.
00:26:08
Speaker 1: Okay. Couple of seasons.
00:26:10
Speaker 3: And the way he was pretending it, John was that he was like, he ordered himself a cake to congratulate himself for signing with the 49ers, a 49er Jersey cake. He would like, he had someone film him running routes on the beach and, Like that are like, it looks like you and me running routes, bro. It's like, it took him eight steps to make the post cut. Like, and he's wearing a helmet, a 49er helmet and no shirt. Fucking pants. He would just like go be in his car talking about like, it's so hard being in the league. And like people, I'm not, everyone was falling for it, but apparently enough people fell for it that he's been arrested for scamming a million plus dollars out of people.
00:27:01
Speaker 1: But how did he scam? Because he would be like, Hey, like, you know, I'm in the NFL.
00:27:05
Speaker 3: This thing with my contracts going on, like I have a business opportunity for you, but like, I can't put my $ 20, 000 into it right now. But like, if you send me your shit that, you know, so if you take the football part out of it, it's a normal con man thing of like, he's pretending to be a rich guy so that people are like, Oh, you know, he's good for whatever. But the crazy thing about it is he's pretending to be a football player and they list the rosters of the football team on the internet.
00:27:35
Speaker 1: Like, that's what they do.
00:27:36
Speaker 2: Why would they do that so publicly, knowing that if somebody tells, there's footage and, like, of him lying.
00:27:43
Speaker 1: And scamming and all the... That's why he got arrested. That's so insane.
00:27:49
Speaker 2: Like, eventually, you're going to jail for this. Wouldn't you want to commit a crime that you think you can get away with? Not something that you know at some point. You go into the Who Scout, nigga, like, and you got all the documentation of all your it is, it is he, or your bullshit.
00:28:05
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. Jackson, can you get the video? I've been seeing it.
00:28:10
Speaker 3: Black winter said the beach videos have had me vomit laughing. But he also kept referring to the NFL as quote football. where like, like, cause he was also trying to hit on women and stuff. And like, someone was like, so why can't I find one video of you playing in college or the pros? And his response was, and I quote, you must not know how football works.
00:28:40
Speaker 1: Okay. You're, you're ready to watch this video. What does that mean? What is it? Okay. Okay. Enjoy this video, John. Okay. Hold on, hold on. His stride is this long, bro.
00:29:18
Speaker 2: Yo, he couldn't do nothing in the motherfucking flag football league, nigga.
00:29:25
Speaker 1: You feel me? In her murals, he would have got cooked. He needs food. Hey, just write that back, please. Nigga, let me see. Motherfucking cut, nigga.
00:29:36
Speaker 4: Oh, shit.
00:29:40
Speaker 1: Shit. Hey, yo, they got scared by this, nigga. They really didn't know how football works. He was right. This is the best part of the video, right here. This is the best part of the video, right here. Yo! This is not a... Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Why you got the helmet on? This nigga look like a bobblehead. What the fuck going on, bro? This is a weird world we live in, nigga. I got the brick right in time, dog. Right in time. I did not need this. Oh, no. That is crazy, nigga. Yo! Yo! Nigga's feet slow as a motherfucker. That's crazy. Oh, man. People was falling for that bullshit. People were falling for it. More than, more than, more than one person, more than one person was falling. That is crazy. Oh shit.
00:30:54
Speaker 4: I got it.
00:30:54
Speaker 2: I might have to tap it. I'm gonna turn this brick off for that, bro. Y'all finna have me doom scrolling. that shit crazy.
00:31:05
Speaker 3: Well he it's insane how everyone um hemsism is requesting the picture of him in business cash with the helmet um people have gone because all his stuff was public john and he literally was like follow me on my journey i'm trying to show y'all the other side.
00:31:22
Speaker 1: Of football that people don't really see But, like, everyone's going back and looking through everything. John, he did a turkey giveaway, bro. Like... Like, really, really? Or just staged that? Do we know if it's true or not? He put a flyer up, like.
00:31:43
Speaker 1: Bruce Wang wants a brick update.
00:31:45
Speaker 3: I'm going to ask John on one of the podcasts this week about the brick, because I'm, like, 50-50 on it as well.
00:31:50
Speaker 1: So, I said, why don't we... How about he.
00:31:53
Speaker 3: Has it for a week first, and then we'll... We'll get on it. No address on the flyer.
00:31:58
Speaker 1: Just a place to donate money for the turkeys. Oh, shit. Niggas will fall for anything, bro. Man. That's tough. Anyway. Oh, man. I'm looking at a picture of this nigga, bro. Crazy. I think the thing that's sad is....
00:32:23
Speaker 3: He is going to get out of jail and make money off of being famous for this, which I think we all should like, except now, like he was making money off of being pretend famous. And like, now he is like, everyone's been talking about him for like four days. So he is now actually famous, you know?
00:32:39
Speaker 1: Like, what is it? Oh God.
00:32:42
Speaker 2: Fame is just so weird now because there's like not oftentimes there's no talent attached to it.
00:32:49
Speaker 1: Like, how do you... It's just brazenness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. They said he has the helmet while he's driving. Wait.
00:33:05
Speaker 4: What?
00:33:09
Speaker 2: This nigga driving in the helmet shut the fuck up are you kidding me.
00:33:14
Speaker 6: I haven't seen one of him driving with it on but he's always finding he's always finding a way to position the helmet so that it's visible because he clearly spent real money on the helmet and so that is.
00:33:27
Speaker 1: Crazy See, I wish he wasn't actually a scammer.
00:33:30
Speaker 4: And it was just, it was just, this was just funny because I do think, I do think being a producer for this, someone said in the chat, he should do it, start an NFL player pod. And I do think I would have a lot of fun producing like an onion style, fake player podcast, but he's really scamming people.
00:33:45
Speaker 1: So that's not, here's, here's the, here's the thing, bro.
00:33:48
Speaker 3: And again, like I'm a very sympathetic, empathetic person, but some people, deserve to have their money stolen from them oh and if you fall for this i will personally steal your money from you.
00:34:05
Speaker 1: As well.
00:34:10
Speaker 3: Because people that are so stupid to fall for this you didn't even.
00:34:13
Speaker 1: Need to do anything illegal to take their money bro maybe them people were old bro That's the thing. That's not... Old people ain't... No, no, no. It's not who's been revealed as... It's different with old people. I agree. Yeah, old people ain't built for this world, bro. Yeah, I agree. They licks. They easily.
00:34:29
Speaker 2: They out here just looking like food to a scammer.
00:34:32
Speaker 1: It's cold. It's a cold game. So they old... That's rough. My mom and I have an agreement.
00:34:38
Speaker 3: I was like, I'll bail you out of whatever situation you need bailed, but don't have both of us out here looking stupid because my mom invented the phrase too stupid to live. That's like a signature saying of my mom's that she would say.
00:34:50
Speaker 1: About people, bro. What a legend. What a legend.
00:34:54
Speaker 3: But that's what she said. She said the first time she got fooled by AI, she.
00:34:58
Speaker 1: Deleted her Facebook account. Oh, that's what she said?
00:35:02
Speaker 3: She said exactly what you said. She was like, this is not for me. I'm not going to be out here trying to figure out what's real and not real. I can see the shit outside my window is real. The shit I see in the real world is real.
00:35:12
Speaker 2: We talked about this, but it's getting so, like, I was having a conversation.
00:35:16
Speaker 1: I know, say, let's have a conversation. Wait, I'll talk to you about it, Mike. Let's have a.
00:35:19
Speaker 2: Conversation with somebody. And I was like, yo, is this person real? And they were like, she looks real. And I was like, because she's a black woman. And the person I was with was fake. And I'm like, she's bad, but I'm not attracted to her. I don't find anything attractive about her. Like, I normally would think this person's attractive. There's something off about her. And I looked it up, and she was AI. And it's like, you can tell when somebody, you know, like, it doesn't, it didn't feel real.
00:35:45
Speaker 1: Like, she looked real, but it didn't feel real. You feel me? So, like, I can't, it's getting, they're getting cold with it, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:35:53
Speaker 2: Like, if it was a white woman, I probably would have thought she was real.
00:35:57
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? The sniff test wouldn't have been there. I don't know. You have to respect him.
00:36:03
Speaker 3: He wasn't using AI. He went to fans at the mall and paid $ 300 for that helmet. That episode of The Simpsons where Marge has that one Chanel outfit and she cuts it up like seven different ways so the ladies at the country club think she's not poor. That was him. He would get one piece of 49ers workout gear and he would find every different angle to shoot it from.
00:36:26
Speaker 1: Like I got to.
00:36:27
Speaker 3: Get at least six videos out of this $ 50 workout shirt.
00:36:32
Speaker 1: How much did that helmet cost? You said he spent some real money on them. Let's just get pretty expensive, right?
00:36:36
Speaker 3: That's why I think he was putting it in. Like he fake signed a contract, John. And it's like the whole time, this whole thing is public. It's all public. You can't secretly sign to the NFL.
00:36:48
Speaker 1: You can't do it.
00:36:49
Speaker 3: And Mina Kimes, friend of the show pointed out, It's a sick statement on how fucked up Google is that the Google AI search, he put so much fake shit out there about being on the 49ers that if you Google him, the Google AI said he was on the 49ers. The Google AI summary, which is nasty. So the only other thing I'll throw out there, because I do know how football works, you ask the pro athletes for money. They don't ask you for money. And I'm not saying me, but I'm just like, if you ever known someone who made it to the NFL, that's like a running job.
00:37:28
Speaker 1: I always joke, how many cousins did you find out you had? All of a sudden. All of a sudden, they got a dad again. Nigga, I ain't. What the fuck? You know what I mean? I've seen it happen.
00:37:41
Speaker 3: I've seen that exact scenario happen.
00:37:44
Speaker 1: Draft party. Nah. Right. Who? Nope. No thanks. We just got the same last name, brother. I do not know you.
00:37:56
Speaker 3: We put the reservation in for a fixed number. Anyway, shout out to this guy. They really didn't know how football works. Mary hit it on the head.
00:38:06
Speaker 1: They didn't know. All right. Dookie Bud of the Week. Should we do it? Let's do it. Let's do it. Jackson, who's your Dookie Bud of the Week?
00:38:19
Speaker 4: My dookie butt of the week is a co-dookie butt of the week between Lonzo Ball and Michael Porter Jr.
00:38:26
Speaker 1: Oh, no. You didn't see their thing? I did not see their thing. You guys haven't seen this? I did not. I've been trying to follow up.
00:38:34
Speaker 2: I heard Lonzo said something about not regretting big baller shoes.
00:38:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was interesting. I mean, that stuff was interesting about Lonzo's life. I didn't see anything else. That's not even what I'm talking about. But Michael Porter Jr. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. This is.
00:38:45
Speaker 3: This is such a real comment from Dare. He said, the only reason I wanted to go to the league as a kid is because I thought it would make my dad show up and I wanted the satisfaction of saying I didn't know it.
00:38:55
Speaker 1: I would wait for this so badly. Bro, we all need therapy. We all need therapy. We scarred. Help me with this exact issue. If you're in your 30s, is it not a little old? I want to make a dream come true just so I can shit on my father. Like, That was a main goal behind. Damn, that's crazy. Yeah, it be like that, though. It be like that. It do. It do be like that. You feel me? It really go ahead though. Jackson. Sorry. Yeah. It's okay.
00:39:32
Speaker 4: So Michael Porter jr. Went on Lonzo balls podcast. At least that's my understanding. My read of the situation.
00:39:36
Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting duo.
00:39:39
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:39:39
Speaker 1: You know, they got a lot of thoughts. Both those guys got a lot, a lot of thoughts, especially in Michael Porter jr. And I don't know if they, how this question was asked.
00:39:46
Speaker 4: I didn't, I should have watched more of it, I guess. but there was like a hypothetical question. They were both pondering the hypothetical, actually not really pondering. They had a pretty strong answer. It was, would you press a button? And if you press that button, you get a billion dollars. The other thing that happens, someone somewhere in the world that you don't know dies. Would you kill someone for a billion dollars is the question. Now they said, fuck yeah. They both said, run me my money immediately. And Michael Porter Jr. tried to couch it by being like, well, if I give $ 100 million of the billion to charity, then really the net positive I'm doing for society outweighs it.
00:40:27
Speaker 1: So I'm really doing a good thing, actually. You're calculating somebody's value monetarily. Correct. And that was going to save. Yeah, that's crazy. Tough one for those. Even if you think yes, the answer is no. Correct. Exactly. You know what I mean?
00:40:43
Speaker 3: I've had plenty of times it would have been hard to say no.
00:40:47
Speaker 1: And that's what I was going to say. On camera, would you ever have said yes, even at those times? When you're an NBA player who's worth nine figures.
00:40:57
Speaker 3: Well, and they, I'm sorry, but the Ball family did not grow up like not able to eat or something.
00:41:03
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Mike. I don't know Michael Porter Jr. I'm not judging as hard.
00:41:07
Speaker 3: People who've been on the bottom end of the capitalist spectrum and seen the way that human life is devalued, I understand them sometimes having a.
00:41:17
Speaker 1: Mentality of kill or be killed.
00:41:20
Speaker 3: I understand that to some extent, but that's not.
00:41:23
Speaker 1: Michael Porter Jr.
00:41:24
Speaker 4: Is making $ 40 million to play basketball this year. And he's going to sign another contract after this for $ 200.
00:41:37
Speaker 1: Million, probably. Yeah. Yeah. So that's my dick about the week. You know, classic. He's really good at basketball. Classic stuff. Let's just ask him basketball questions.
00:41:49
Speaker 4: Agreed.
00:41:50
Speaker 1: I will go next. I'll just say, go ahead. Yeah. Okay. I did, though. It's a different one. It's apples and oranges. Okay. Okay.
00:42:05
Speaker 3: Um, I, my dookie buddy of the week is that I am currently beefing with a church, which is a new experience for me.
00:42:15
Speaker 1: I'm usually, oh yeah.
00:42:17
Speaker 3: Um, we do live across the street from a church and this church.
00:42:25
Speaker 1: Beef with Jesus? No. No. I wouldn't judge you. With Jesus? Damn, guys. What did they do? Or what did you do? Okay.
00:42:36
Speaker 3: I have not yet done what I am willing to do. And I hope they understand that I am willing to do what I said I'm willing to do.
00:42:43
Speaker 1: But there is a church across the street from my house.
00:42:46
Speaker 3: We live in like a public, like.
00:42:49
Speaker 1: We're in the burbs, but we're like in like a majorly traffic area.
00:42:53
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, it's unhoused people and stuff like that. So this church put a security system on that is verbal.
00:43:06
Speaker 1: And if it says. You are trespassing on private property. You are being recorded. Please exit the premises. No, this is. Wait, wait, wait, wait. How sensitive is it, though? So like you heard this before.
00:43:23
Speaker 3: It says it at about 50 fucking decibels across the street from my bedroom where I sleep. And last night, it said it five times between 3 and 4 o'clock in the morning.
00:43:36
Speaker 1: Oh, that's crazy. No. Who was over there, though? That motherfucker was really trying to get in there. I can see over there, it was no one over there.
00:43:43
Speaker 3: So it was probably a fucking cat or a skunk or some shit walking through there.
00:43:48
Speaker 1: Oh, no.
00:43:49
Speaker 3: So I sent them an email, and it may not have been wise to send the email at 3.30 in the morning.
00:43:55
Speaker 1: But I sent them an email and said....
00:44:00
Speaker 3: Unless you would like this announcement to be played at your church's doors at 10 a.m. on Sunday in the middle of your service, you need to turn that shit down or turn it off. And if you think it's inappropriate to play this out loud while people are trying to do things in their place of dwelling, I agree with you, which is why I would like to be fucking asleep at three o'clock in.
00:44:26
Speaker 1: The morning instead of listening to You are trespassing on private property.
00:44:32
Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, you ain't just want to, like, have a casual conversation with him prior to.
00:44:38
Speaker 1: Like, coming with the smoke, nigga. Like, immediate smoke.
00:44:43
Speaker 2: Like, you ain't be like, that shit tweaking.
00:44:45
Speaker 1: Can you fix that? I clocked off work at midnight. I clocked off work at midnight.
00:44:49
Speaker 2: Like, can you, like, hey, yo, this shit going on, like, it's going on.
00:44:53
Speaker 1: Can we get a fix for this? This nigga said, look. I'm pulling up to your shit. There's no, it's like zero to a hundred.
00:45:03
Speaker 2: They go like, there's probably three steps in between this motherfucker.
00:45:06
Speaker 1: Like I'm getting this fixed today. Mike, you got to remember that.
00:45:13
Speaker 4: You got to remember that even, and especially security systems are heaven sent. Even security systems are heaven sent.
00:45:24
Speaker 1: Hey, didn't you say that shit was inhumane? I think that's when I logged on. Y'all was talking about, you said it's inhumane. I'm like, I ain't know what y'all was talking about. It's inhumane, dog. Like, there's people living here, sleeping. 3.30 in the morning. That is crazy. That really is crazy to play it that loud. If you can hear, you guys, let's across the street. No, we have double pane windows. Yeah, that's not that close. Wait, wait, wait. Did Shara wake up? Both of y'all was up on that shit? Or it just got you?
00:45:52
Speaker 3: What's crazy is it has woken Shara up.
00:45:55
Speaker 1: She is the light sleeper. I normally sleep through anything.
00:46:00
Speaker 3: I think I was so anxious last night because I got like four hours of sleep Friday night because we.
00:46:05
Speaker 1: Worked till like three.
00:46:07
Speaker 3: And then he had to go to that showcase shit in LA. And then after I came home from LA, from the showcase, went straight to work from like four to midnight. And in my head, I'm like, if I don't get a good night's sleep tonight, this could be.
00:46:19
Speaker 1: A fucked up week. It can be really rough.
00:46:22
Speaker 2: The people within this dwelling too, because you ain't your best self type shit.
00:46:26
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to go back into those trenches. Like I need to get my sleep tonight. You ain't trying to be like me, nigga. Yeah.
00:46:33
Speaker 2: You had your fill.
00:46:35
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I respect you. You are trespassing on private property. Motherfucker. Mike was in that motherfucking toilet. I had his hell, bro. That nigga sent that email smoking hot. He probably almost broke the damn computer keys, nigga. That shit crazy. If you think it's okay. You said that shit at 345. That's crazy. I get it now. I get it now. Hopefully it's Remedy, bro, but I really will go all the way crazy with it. Have you got a response yet? Or did this happen this weekend? It happened last night. Oh, okay. So Monday, probably. Well, it's not Sunday. They working on Sunday. I don't know if the administration is working.
00:47:27
Speaker 2: I think there's church, but I don't think the people that run the church, they got nine to fives, nigga.
00:47:35
Speaker 1: Slackers. Anyway, bro, it's like... I know where their priorities are. You gotta stop. Whoa. I know where those priorities are. It's waking me up at 3.30 in the fucking morning, bro. I mean, I... Yeah, that's some bullshit. And also, like, it's hard when you already tired. And it's some bullshit.
00:47:58
Speaker 2: Like, I shouldn't have to deal with this shit.
00:48:02
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:48:04
Speaker 2: Like, they should have common sense to know this is not the way to move.
00:48:08
Speaker 3: Or just play it a couple times before you leave, maybe, after you activate it. See what this shit sounds like to the people who are living around you.
00:48:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:48:18
Speaker 2: Does it need to be that loud for that person right in front to know that they're being recorded?
00:48:23
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
00:48:24
Speaker 2: I don't think, you know, people across the street or in houses furthers need to hear that shit, too.
00:48:31
Speaker 1: Yeah. In their own homes. That's crazy. Yeah. Anyway, John, what's your do-gooder of the week? Humanity. Oh. No, for sure, bro. I called Mike. I had a.
00:48:45
Speaker 2: Conversation about this earlier this week.
00:48:48
Speaker 1: I called Rada. She was like, I'm trying to... I'm trying to care, John. I just... She was busy. She was busy. She was busy. She's like, I'm trying. I just got... She actually had to do... She had the time for me. But... So I called Mike. But... The humans have been around for 300,000 years. Yeah. Right. Dinosaurs existed for 167 million. Okay. Right. 165 million. I think actually. Yeah. I trust you on the numbers, but yeah. Yeah. Anyway, must to us 2 million anyway.
00:49:18
Speaker 2: So, um, we're already at the point where they're already talking about our demise and we clown dinosaurs for how stupid they are. We might go out in the dumbest way possible, which is at our own due.
00:49:32
Speaker 1: To our own decision-making.
00:49:34
Speaker 2: We're supposed to be the most brilliant beings or species has ever existed on the planet. We've been here like a blip compared to what we, the people, the species we make fun of for how stupid they were. They had brains like chickens. Nigga, they were here 167 million years. We've been here 300,000 and now it's a trillion fucking, we can, it's 27 degrees hotter in Paris than it was the year before.
00:50:01
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
00:50:02
Speaker 2: Like it's, it's 90 degrees, it's 60% humidity in LA right now.
00:50:08
Speaker 1: You feel me?
00:50:08
Speaker 2: Like, we're fucking up our planet and it's hard to get people to make decisions to go the right way. Like, and we're supposed to be so fucking brilliant. And if there, if there's another species that makes it to where we're at and, and realizes like that humans existed, you feel on this planet, they will, after we're not here, they will clown the fuck out of us. It's just so interesting to me that, We're so smart. We're in comparison to other species. And our intelligence is what is, will be the reason we get about this motherfucker.
00:50:47
Speaker 1: Like, and I just think like I was talking to Mike about this.
00:50:50
Speaker 2: Why aren't people like, why is this not the biggest fucking deal to everybody? Like why it's, it's many people are just somewhat like lying.
00:51:02
Speaker 1: Like it's, it's.
00:51:04
Speaker 3: 90 everyone everyone is lying to themselves to some extent.
00:51:09
Speaker 2: To some extent because like me including you including for sure for sure for sure if i really thought about this too much i couldn't go to work tomorrow yeah you know i mean it'd be hard to do the normal things like you know i mean like if i thought about it too much but it's just truly insane that it's not a bigger deal to everybody maybe because it's just you know it's It's hard for us to fathom or if we were to really think about it, we wouldn't be able to do regular shit.
00:51:34
Speaker 1: But gee, like this. I just I just don't understand why it's not the biggest deal in the world right now. But I think so.
00:51:43
Speaker 3: You and I talked about a couple of things, one being that like the way our brains all work. And it's the same thing if you're writing about budget cuts. No one gives a fuck about budget cuts. If you say someone's library is going to be closed two hours a day.
00:51:56
Speaker 1: Now, a lot of people care. It's too big of an issue for us to wrap our head around.
00:52:01
Speaker 3: So I feel like, you know, Jackson was just talking about, like, you know, tropical storms, like. weather events people care about enormously you look at that horrible shit that happened in nepal like that's a climate change event yeah people see that video and it's all they could think about is so horrible but you don't connect it to particles in the air you don't connect it to the the bigger the bigger storyline and i do think that part of that is evolutionary of like we are still animals and the function of our brains getting bigger is to figure out.
00:52:34
Speaker 1: How to get food for the day Right, right.
00:52:37
Speaker 2: To get better at that, not necessarily get better at solving global issues that are dealing with, you know.
00:52:44
Speaker 3: So immediate concern versus global concern. And I just think that's the challenge of it. But I also think that's why you had this. experience that everyone had.
00:52:56
Speaker 1: Who is alive like we were.
00:52:58
Speaker 3: And sentient when the internet came into being that all of a sudden you started seeing all the individual horrible things that were happening at once instead of the stuff that got filmed and put on the news in your city or whatever and it was just like someone was smashing your brain with a sledgehammer or something right like Yeah, but I just, I think we're not equipped to deal with the size of the problem.
00:53:23
Speaker 1: But I just feel at this point, like, we all are experiencing global warming. We're not, it's not a conversation. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we're experiencing it.
00:53:32
Speaker 2: Like, we're walking out and we can't deny, like, even if you are lying to yourself, saying it's a hoax, you can't lie and say.
00:53:40
Speaker 1: It's not supposed to be this hot in August. Like, you know, like, you feel me? Like, you can't, And it's not just.
00:53:52
Speaker 2: The weather in itself is more unpredictable, which is part of it as well, where it'll snow in weird times.
00:54:00
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
00:54:01
Speaker 2: You can't deny that the climate is much different than it was 20, 30 years ago.
00:54:08
Speaker 1: Even if you're not watching.
00:54:10
Speaker 2: documentaries on the polar caps.
00:54:11
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And you're not, you know, paying attention to that.
00:54:14
Speaker 2: Like you go outside and it feels like it's, it's more humid than Florida and California and LA.
00:54:22
Speaker 3: LA was the most humid part of the United States of America. I don't know that that's ever happened.
00:54:28
Speaker 2: The Pacific is so warm that like, great whites or like, you know, that was not, the water was 80 degrees.
00:54:36
Speaker 3: The water was 80 degrees.
00:54:37
Speaker 1: Like, you know what I'm saying? Like the Pacific ocean was 80 degrees. That's not normal. That's never been normal. Like, you know what I mean?
00:54:45
Speaker 2: So it's just, you can't, you can, you can only lie to yourself so much, you know, at this point. And it's just so crazy how we just refuse to.
00:54:56
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know.
00:54:57
Speaker 2: It should be the most important thing on everybody's mind to me.
00:55:01
Speaker 1: Um, and it's just, it's just not, you know? Yep.
00:55:04
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:55:05
Speaker 2: And I, like we were talking about too, like we're the people who are at least in this, you know, regime or whatever you want to call Trump and his, you know, cronies and all that bullshit. It feels like we really, it's like the government is supposed to be doing things to handle that. And we can't, they're too powerful for us to just like, you know, we, we can't, we, I, I, I would understand at this point feeling like, you know, with them in power, feeling a little, like, you know, helpless.
00:55:31
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But it's a global issue. It's not just United States. So anyway. All right.
00:55:37
Speaker 3: Shout out to my beautiful wife who's not going to listen to this podcast. If you're listening to this on Monday, it is our 19th wedding anniversary, which is some crazy shit.
00:55:47
Speaker 1: 24 years. Big congrats. Big congrats. 24 years together, 19 years married, you know? So.
00:55:52
Speaker 4: Fuck.
00:55:52
Speaker 1: Jesus, bro. Fuck with it. Fuck with it. You know? So you've been at this point, y'all been married longer than y'all. Like, so y'all been married long. We started dating when we were 18 and we've been there.
00:56:09
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:56:10
Speaker 1: Crazy. Whoa. Yeah. It's great. I don't know.
00:56:15
Speaker 3: Like the, the bigger that number gets, the weird, it seems to, it's just.
00:56:19
Speaker 1: Like, well, I don't know. It's crazy. Cool. Beautiful. I think we're taking our kids out to dinner. Is that all y'all? All y'all? Yeah, we're just going to go out and have a good night. Come on.
00:56:32
Speaker 3: We were watching Stranger Things with the kids. Come home and start the fifth season.
00:56:36
Speaker 1: Are y'all planning on doing something big for 20? I think so. Okay.
00:56:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. So August 24th was like our first date. So we always just try to do something between the 24th and the 31st.
00:56:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Because with our jobs, with her.
00:56:54
Speaker 3: Starting school, football season starting for me, it's always kind of like whenever we can make a shake, but we, we did for the, it was, that was our first night away from the kids for our, whatever the previous one was 15th and 20th or something. We w we went to San Diego for a weekend and, uh, left, left the kids. Char's mom came over and stayed with the kids.
00:57:15
Speaker 1: We don't got nowhere. We could drop them off. So, uh, yeah, that was cool. It was cool. So I don't know. We'll do something. August 24th. Like what? Like you just remember that because it was Char or like, is there just something happening? It was just our first date. Do you remember y'all first date, Jackson? Am I tripping? Well, I remember when we met. I also, I also, I don't remember like the date.
00:57:34
Speaker 3: I also, I also proposed on that, because we celebrated our dating anniversary.
00:57:40
Speaker 1: So I proposed on that day and then we got married the 31st.
00:57:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can tell you when Kim and I met at a Halloween party that we were hosting and then we officially started dating, like became officially together on the following January 1st, two months later.
00:57:55
Speaker 2: I just remember moments.
00:57:56
Speaker 1: I don't remember like... I don't remember dates at all. Other than like the anniversary. I don't remember like... The wedding anniversary? Yeah, the wedding anniversary. I've talked about this though. You guys go by wedding anniversary? Mike? Yeah, yeah. We just have that week. It's like the 24th through the 31st.
00:58:12
Speaker 3: And it's just like whatever makes sense in our current lives to do, we do it.
00:58:16
Speaker 1: And I keep both numbers. But we were.
00:58:19
Speaker 3: I mean, I told Shaw I loved her on our third date. And I proposed to her three years after we started dating.
00:58:24
Speaker 1: So like... It was... I don't know. It wasn't like it is now.
00:58:30
Speaker 3: I was just trying to explain the talking stage to my mom. You know, like we have, Char and I know kids where they refer to people as their ex talking stage.
00:58:40
Speaker 4: Nice.
00:58:41
Speaker 3: And you're just like, you know, this is my mom is like, I'm glad I'm not raising kids right now. Like it's complicated as shit. I was like, for me, we went on our first date and I was like, cool. And I think I told her a third or fourth date. I was like, if you ever get sick of me, you are going to have to be the one Don't do that shit where you try and like run me off.
00:58:58
Speaker 1: I'm not going. You got me.
00:59:03
Speaker 3: You will have to say, I don't want you around anymore.
00:59:07
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So, yeah. So to me- that's why that date was significant. For sure, for sure. Yeah, okay, cool. That makes sense.
00:59:14
Speaker 2: I think, like, when I didn't understand shit, people were like, yeah, we're hooking up.
00:59:18
Speaker 1: I was like, does that mean you're talking, fucking?
00:59:21
Speaker 2: Like, that's when shit started getting confusing to me.
00:59:24
Speaker 1: Like, what are y'all? Maybe that's some white people shit. Maybe that's what I don't understand. It's intentionally ambiguous, I think. Yeah, okay. So, yeah, okay. Okay. You were hooking him like, I don't know what's going on. It's like when you don't really want to, you're not.
00:59:35
Speaker 4: Sure, but you want to tell people that you kind of got something going on.
00:59:39
Speaker 3: I was very unambiguous about that shit, especially because we were long distance while we were in college.
00:59:44
Speaker 1: Not that long distance. Not everyone's as sure as me. Bro, you were in Long Beach. She was in LA, dog. It's medium distance for sure. It's medium distance for sure. No, that was.
00:59:53
Speaker 3: That was a tough four years for us, brother, especially she didn't have a car.
00:59:55
Speaker 1: So it was, I was, hey, John.
00:59:58
Speaker 5: Your ass on the road though, right? You was hitting that road, brother. You feel me? I was just telling a young person who worked for us. I was calling her dorm room landline from the pay phone by class is how long ago we started dating.
01:00:16
Speaker 1: Using a fucking....
01:00:19
Speaker 3: Minutes card that I stole from the student store.
01:00:25
Speaker 1: That's so fire though. Remember when you left the house and you was gone, bro, you had to catch somebody. I remember leaving long beach to go to LA to go. You never had experienced that. Everybody has cell phones when you were.
01:00:40
Speaker 4: It wasn't smartphones, but by the time that I had my license, like before that, sure. But by the time that I had like actual personal freedom, I could drive. I had my license and, Everyone had a cell phone, not a smartphone. I don't think at that point, but a cell phone. Yeah.
01:00:52
Speaker 3: We had pay to text. So we would send each other like the 700. That was the first year we got Virgin mobile pay to text. I think our third year of college, something like that. We would send that text was like, yeah, fucking essay.
01:01:06
Speaker 1: This shit could cost me 10 cents, bro. I'm getting it. I'm getting it. I'm getting the full value of this text. We got to make the whole plan in two texts. Yo, that's crazy. Is the parking spot of the apartment going to be there? If not, let me know and I will do this. I'm thinking for dinner we can do this. On the touch phone. The plane and the backup plane. Three times to get to L. That's crazy. All right.
01:01:34
Speaker 3: That's all the time we got. We'll be back with a couple episodes this week. We don't have the schedule just yet, but we will see y'all then. Hope everyone has a great start to their week.
01:01:42
Speaker 1: Bye.
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Speaker 3: Bye.
01:01:43
Speaker 1: Bye.
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Speaker 2: This might be your thing, like the last three openings, right?
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Speaker 1: Am I tripping? Big energy from this guy. I don't know. You know?
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Speaker 3: Is that like an American sickness that I just like, you just shoot some fake guns and start the podcast?
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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, yeah. That'll get the energy flowing. Sometimes like... The blood pumping. The place that podcasts came from.
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Speaker 4: Like the origins of something sometimes just steep into you without even realizing it, you know?
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Speaker 1: It's like that's the origins of podcasts that just sort of like... Yeah. I don't know. It just, yeah.
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Speaker 3: The spirit was moving through me. Welcome to Jenkins and Jones independently owned and operated since 2025.
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Speaker 1: It is Sunday, August 30th.
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Speaker 3: And we have got the championship results from beast bracket three, the 1996 edition.
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Speaker 1: And you won't believe who won 1996.
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Speaker 3: As always, we're hosted by LeJethro Jenkins, AKA John.
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Speaker 1: What's up, Bubbas? I'm Garty B, AKA Mike. Mother fucking Mike. Mike.
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Speaker 3: And we're produced, as always, by the lovely and talented Jackson Saffron.
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Speaker 1: What up? Grizzly beard, Jackson Saffron. It just needs a trim, that's all. You think so? I mean, it definitely does. Is it going over the front lip? Yeah, it's been over the front lip.
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Speaker 4: Like I was saying to Mike before, I just knew I needed to trim it around this time because.
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Speaker 1: We're about to go on a trip.
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Speaker 4: And it was sort of an in-between amount of time where I was like, it was like a week out. And I was like, oh, I don't really want to trim it now. The time is going to be off. So now I've waited well past the threshold. It's not like it's that big of a deal, but it definitely needs to trim.
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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, John got run over by a lawnmower, as my grandfather would say. Hey, somebody said I'm looking overly handsome. Hey, man, I really appreciate this. Oh, man, nigga. You don't get this as much no more, nigga. And this is my actual face. You feel me? I trimmed it too low, bro. I got some good clips. I was like, yikes. And then you got to even it up. Yeah, I had to even it up. You got to thug it out type shit. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: Like a hamburger meat But if y'all think that's handsome, appreciate.
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Speaker 3: You Rishi making the point For those who are new to Jenkins and Jones That the chat did indeed have to bully Jackson Into growing.
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Speaker 4: That beard out That is true But yeah, I mean, that's probably the simplest way to describe it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how to describe it like that, but that's probably the simplest way. Yeah, I would say so. I owe the chat a lot. I owe the chat a lot. I owe the chat, me getting a PS5 and me having this beard. Two of your top five possessions. I put the pressure on you. I put the real pressure on you.
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Speaker 2: I really feel like I was like, nigga, What the fuck is wrong with you, man? That shit look good as hell. You was lying to yourself.
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Speaker 1: Okay. I think that's... I agree now. I'm happy with it.
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Speaker 4: But I've looked back at some of the pictures from the very early days of it. Not recently, but at some point a while back, I.
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Speaker 1: Looked back at the pictures.
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Speaker 4: It was pretty thin and bare early on.
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Speaker 1: You guys were hyping it up. We can see the vision, though. We just saw it. I feel like it's more seeing potential than you. You were projectable, bro. You were projectable. For sure. We saw that. I had the tools. Yeah. Had the natural ability. Okay. You guys, you guys definitely saw your all NBA. We saw it. We saw into the future. And I looked back and I had to measure it. You know what I mean? They didn't look that good.
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Speaker 3: Wingspan was four inches longer than your height.
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Speaker 4: You know, CKP said, imagine if Jackson showed up clean shaven. I did genuinely consider this for my 30th birthday as a, as a bit, because it does, obviously it would obviously make me look a lot younger.
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Speaker 1: And I really considered it.
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Speaker 4: And then when I voiced that, sort of thought process to my girlfriend, Kim. She gave me a look like I had murdered someone.
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Speaker 1: Don't even fucking think about that. I told y'all what Char said. Wasn't she halfway? Like, wasn't she like, I don't know at first? Yes, at first she was like, I don't know. And then once it filled in. Correct. I told y'all what Char said.
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Speaker 3: I have been clean shaven one time in the very long time that my wife and I have been together. She was not a fan of it. No one was a fan of it actually. Cause I had a goatee since I was like 15 years old. It was like, no one had ever seen it.
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Speaker 1: We saw it. We saw it in a picture with, uh, that picture. Huh? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ms.
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Speaker 3: Han.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But, uh, Char said that I was like, I made a joke at some point about shaving my face again. And she said, You can't do that because when you do that, people see us together and think that you must be rich.
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Speaker 1: That's what she said. That's so crazy.
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Speaker 5: That's the last feedback I need.
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Speaker 2: I actually shaved my shit like for a Yahoo like holiday party. I was I forgot to take this and I shaved all of it off like it was.
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Speaker 1: Whoa. I'm butt naked. I don't even a shadow. You feel. Oh.
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Speaker 3: You're so baby faced. You're so baby faced when you completely shave your face.
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Speaker 1: Rather like still joke about it sometimes. I'm sure I would too. No, that is not a, yeah, not, not, not, not my best day.
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Speaker 4: I am going to show up with a shaved head one day and you guys, it's just going to happen one day and you guys are.
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Speaker 1: Going to just. I will. Buzz cut. Yeah. At some point.
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Speaker 2: That should probably be fire on you. Is your head wopsided? You don't know?
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Speaker 1: Okay. I think he'd probably be fired with a beard. That might be a look, Nicky.
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Speaker 4: I've been saying it for a long time. I haven't done it. But at some point, it's just going to happen. I'm just going to show up one day with it.
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Speaker 1: We are without Dragonfly Jones, a.k.a. Tyler.
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Speaker 3: It is he and his lovely wife's anniversary. And so we wish them a happy anniversary and a lovely dinner.
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Speaker 1: Mrs. Jones and Mr. Jones. Mr. and Mrs. Jones.
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Speaker 3: And in Jenkins and Jones tradition... we're all going to go around and say one thing that we love about Tyler.
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Speaker 1: Hmm. Forgot about this. Hmm. My favorite. Don't make me, don't make me go first. I forgot about my, my, my, my favorite bit because of how much I do. We, we, have we done it with Tyler? No. He hasn't. We've done it with each. It's pretty, it's a pretty new, it's a new tradition. Yeah. That's true. That's true. That's true.
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Speaker 3: This is a very superficial thing, and I'll probably circle back and say something more serious after you guys say your things. But I was just saying that John called me last week and we were talking about him being on that.
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Speaker 1: Screen time reducing device for his phone. And I told John.
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Speaker 3: I was like, I truly don't know why I'm on Twitter because I'm friends in real life with the only interesting person.
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Speaker 1: Remaining on that app. It's like, I don't need to see what Tyler tweets about something because he's.
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Speaker 3: My friend and he has like a one of one brain. He's like one of the most interesting people I've ever known. And I'm one of the people that's lucky enough to not need to just, I know what he says.
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Speaker 4: When you put it like that, it is really like, cause you would, cause now I would go to Twitter maybe to see people's reactions about a thing.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 4: But you could just text Tyler. What do you, did you see this? I mean, you could, you could have the best hour of your life.
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Speaker 1: In front of you.
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Speaker 3: Just put it on the topic list. Let's talk about Spider-Man on Thursday, bro.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. That was really thoughtful stuff about Spider-Man.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, uh, John, I mean, there, I don't think there's a nigga that's more solid, like morally.
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Speaker 1: You feel me?
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Speaker 2: Like, I just really feel like he's just a good, person to his core. Like he's so thoughtful and considerate and just truly kind. And I feel like there's just not, I don't think there's ever been people kind like that.
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Speaker 1: Just, just genuinely. I've never been a lot of people like that. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: But I just think he's a truly kind, like morally like sound, like solid.
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Speaker 1: Motherfucker, man. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: So like I said, like that's why I want him to be like my, my, um, I said a couple of times, that's why I want to be my, my kid's godparent.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Godfather.
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Speaker 2: Cause you know, like I might go left and they could try to make some shit shake for these babies, but Tyler, make sure they don't follow me.
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Speaker 1: And I can count on that completely. You know what I mean?
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Speaker 4: So, uh, yeah, man, I was going to be sort of something in a similar vein of, he is such a thoughtful friend.
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Speaker 1: He's so thoughtful as a friend.
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Speaker 4: And, um, And the thing that he brings up multiple times, just sort of casually when we talk about it, not in a way to bring attention to it, but just because of how true it is to Tyler, is he talks about how he would bring a gift for Shola as a godparent. And he was like, every time, of course, I'm bringing a gift for Somi. I'm not going to show up. without a gift for Somi also. I'm just like, and I'm also just not a gift person. Like that's not my receiving. I'm just, it's just like sort of a miss for me. Hand up about it, you know? And so I, every time he says that, which has not happened a couple of times, I'm like, wow, this is such a thoughtful person who really wants to just be as sweet and kind and express his love to all of the people in his life.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. All right. And I know Tyler's going to listen to this. So it'll be good. It'll make him nice and uncomfortable. i don't know if.
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Speaker 3: He actually he might not even be.
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Speaker 2: Uncomfortable i don't think i think it's appreciated i think he's like.
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Speaker 1: This his thing like if somebody says something nice.
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Speaker 2: To him he can't not respond to it because yeah like he's yeah i don't know but yeah i think it's appreciated yeah.
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Speaker 3: All right shall we uh before we get to the results of the beast bracket patreon.com slash jenkins and jones ten dollars a month gets you the following things two extra episodes every week commercial free episodes including of the sunday uh free pods correct access to the discord which is more and more unhinged and hilarious by the week always having a great time on the discord And starting this week, I will be posting in the Discord books that Char and I are giving away for free because we are paring down our book collection and people on the Discord can claim them. They've been asking. They asked me to do that on the book thread. We have some good shit that we're giving away. It's not just like old stuff, whatever. There's some good stuff where it's like, hey, this is a hardcover. We're going to give it to the library, whatever. Our library will only accept one bag at a time. And the amount of books that we are giving away, It will take us a considerable amount of time to donate all the books. So the kids are selling some on eBay. We'll be donating some on the Discord to anyone who wants them. and uh yeah so anyway patreon.com jenkins and jones.
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Speaker 1: Y'all making space for new books or what we doing here.
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Speaker 3: Nah man we just you've been over like there was just like on the floor and shit we just hadn't you know you have kids and you just have shit that piles up quite literally sometimes and so we that you won't even recognize the dining room the next time you're over we painted it.
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Speaker 1: Really like a whole bookshelf's worth of books so now it's no.
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Speaker 3: You guys have so many books We're giving away more books than probably anyone else I know owns, and we still.
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Speaker 1: Have a lot of books. More books than anybody else owns, you know what I mean? Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 4: There will also be, in a couple weeks, just a light tease. Another reason to join the Patreon is there will be an announcement being made that Discord will get early sort of pod news that you'll have to wait to see if you're not behind the paywall.
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Speaker 1: I love when you do that with the glasses, bro. It really makes us realize how bad your eyesight is. It's crazy how bad mine is. Your eyes feel those fucking lenses, bro. Like, jeez. Look at that. It's like a magnifying glass. Flat out, bro. That's how I got, I got both of John's kids on my side. Kids love that shit. You just pull the.
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Speaker 3: Glasses out, make your eyes big. And they're like, Oh, this one, this one's got something. This is like, I can work with this guy. He's not going to just ask me about my day and try and shake my hand, even though I'm talking.
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Speaker 1: All right. Um, let's get to it.
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Speaker 3: The championship results, 1996 beast bracket, beast bracket.
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Speaker 1: Number three. This was a fun ride all summer. Jackie, do you want to, Take us away. Yes.
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Speaker 4: We, for those who missed the last round or whatever, we are at the final with Michael Jordan, the one seed versus Ken Griffey, Jr. The 18 unexpected run from the eight seed salute salutes.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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Speaker 4: And you know, there were some of us that were hoping that Ken Griffey, Jr. Would be able to maybe steal something.
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Speaker 3: Maybe, maybe, maybe I was hoping that I.
00:13:03
Speaker 1: Was hoping just from a chaos perspective. Yeah.
00:13:06
Speaker 4: Also, I would have felt like I won a bracket that wasn't actually in competition for, if Ken Griffey Jr.
00:13:12
Speaker 1: Won. I relate to that.
00:13:16
Speaker 4: It was not to be. Michael Jordan, shocker, defeated Ken Griffey Jr. Would you like to guess which platform, Twitter or Patreon, skewed more towards Michael Jordan?
00:13:25
Speaker 1: It was pretty close, but I'm just curious. I would say Twitter. I would guess Twitter as well. You're going to say Patreon. Incorrect. Wow. Twitter went 65%. Wow. Patreon, 68%. Slightly more to Michael Jordan. That's closer than I thought it would be, honestly. Yeah.
00:13:44
Speaker 3: Is that the first time Michael Jordan was under 70% on the vote?
00:13:49
Speaker 1: I think maybe, yeah, I think so.
00:13:51
Speaker 3: A dominant run by Michael Jordan to become the king of 1996.
00:13:56
Speaker 4: And another dominant run, Anthony S. won our bracket pool. Anthony, we will be emailing you as well. We will come up with some sort of prize. Congratulations for winning the bracket. It was actually pretty dominant. He was like hundreds of points ahead of second place.
00:14:11
Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
00:14:12
Speaker 1: He went crazy. He knew all the shit people were going to think that surprised us.
00:14:17
Speaker 4: I think he had a beat on Ken Griffey.
00:14:22
Speaker 1: Should we brainstorm it? Yeah. Should we do a live brainstorm?
00:14:26
Speaker 4: You got an idea?
00:14:27
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think something MJ related.
00:14:29
Speaker 3: I could look up my, that MJ card I said I had and see if it's worth money. And if it's worth money, then I would not send it to Anthony S but if it's worth like a reasonable amount of money, if it's worth like $ 30, I would send it to Anthony.
00:14:43
Speaker 1: I think this is a great idea. That's a great idea. That's so honest and hilarious. I mean, let's be real. I'm not going to send the man a $ 2, 000 basketball.
00:14:53
Speaker 4: So that's the only question is, are you worried about, I guess it's Michael Jordan. The value is probably not going to spike dramatically at some point, but it's like, you know, if you gave away a, a Chauncey Billups card after, after a couple of weeks in the NBA, it's like, damn, I really thought I was selling at the.
00:15:08
Speaker 1: Right value spot, but you worry about the value of that card spiking.
00:15:12
Speaker 3: Okay, what else could we do? Something Michael Jordan related, but that would be funny or interesting. I could sign a copy of Space Jam for him as an extra in Space Jam.
00:15:25
Speaker 1: Oh, I forgot you're an extra. What does your signature look like, bro? You probably signed a lot of things in your life.
00:15:30
Speaker 2: If you have a signature you've used, I mean, not papers, but you sign things for people.
00:15:36
Speaker 1: You've written books and shit.
00:15:38
Speaker 3: My signature used to be like basically my name in cursive. And then after writing the books and having to sign a lot of books for people, it is now a very abbreviated big cursive MG. Basically it's very janky looking, but you just like, you're, Oh, okay.
00:16:00
Speaker 1: Well, that could be the gift. Are you funny? He's got to be funny. He's in the chat. I mean, he wants to come on the pod. Let's just say, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Okay, cool. Yeah, we'll just give him a segment. Yeah, tap in. Fuck it. All right. We try to come up with something goofy. He's like, can I come on the pod? Can I be on the podcast for five minutes? Very simple.
00:16:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:21
Speaker 1: I don't know. We don't even got to get your address. Congrats to Michael Jordan. They thought he couldn't do it.
00:16:27
Speaker 4: They thought he couldn't do it. They said, that guy, he can't win this bracket. He proved them all wrong.
00:16:33
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. All he had was, you know... Everything, nigga. All he had was everything and a dream, and it worked out. All right.
00:16:46
Speaker 3: Jackson, as is Beast Bracket tradition, has cut together a special video, which will be on social media on Monday.
00:16:53
Speaker 1: But Jackson, do you want to debut that live for the people watching the YouTube? Close out the bracket season.
00:17:01
Speaker 5: Damn, bro.
00:17:02
Speaker 1: Look at that swing, man. Everyone's favorite. Hey Arnold. Oh, there we go. Love to see that one. That's a line of smarts that if you didn't know. Who, me? I know who she is.
00:17:39
Speaker 3: Our favorite combination.
00:17:54
Speaker 1: Congrats to Michael Jordan. Congrats. He did it. He did it. No one believed in him.
00:18:02
Speaker 3: Hey, I don't know if you guys have ever heard this, but you know, he was cut off of the JV basketball team.
00:18:07
Speaker 1: As a sophomore. Okay. And it motivated him to win this bracket. That wasn't a sophomore, was it?
00:18:11
Speaker 3: No, I think it was because at that time, I believe you, their freshman year was not in high school. I think that the story, it's like, he made it sound like it was his big offense. I think it was literally that the coach made him play JV as a sophomore and instead of putting him straight to the varsity team.
00:18:24
Speaker 1: I thought it was freshman, but either way. And for that, that's really normal.
00:18:28
Speaker 3: When I, when I laid that man 30 years.
00:18:33
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:18:33
Speaker 1: The takeaway should probably not be in Michael. They said he got cut from his team, which I was like, they said he didn't make the basketball. He just played.
00:18:40
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:18:41
Speaker 1: Yeah. When really the coach did the merciful thing.
00:18:43
Speaker 3: I'm like, Hey man, I could put you on varsity, but you're going to be like the ninth guy, or you could be the guy on JV.
00:18:48
Speaker 1: You get a lot of reps, learn the system.
00:18:50
Speaker 3: Like, And he shit-talked that dude in his Hall of Fame speech for like half the speech.
00:18:59
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy we glorified some of that stuff. I don't know.
00:19:02
Speaker 4: I'm just like the Kobe-MJ mentality thing I feel so disconnected from at this point in my life that it's really, it's starting almost.
00:19:12
Speaker 1: He was left off the varsity squad as a sophomore. How dare you? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And yes, Miles, he was, he had not yet had the gross. And do we like, it wasn't also nine. Was the team good? Like it's not, not every sophomore. Sometimes the high school team is really good. And then they just, you know, the upperclassmen are really good. Yeah.
00:19:31
Speaker 3: Yep.
00:19:32
Speaker 1: The man was five, nine as a sophomore. He was still human. Of course he, yeah. That makes sense. He was on JV. Yeah.
00:19:40
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:19:40
Speaker 1: Oh, J man was six, four and sixth grade. That's my mega. There's some people that are grown men. Wait, wait. Michael Jordan, 5'9 sophomore.
00:19:50
Speaker 4: At what age do you think that you, John, could beat Michael Jordan in your basketball prime? You're in your basketball prime. How old is Michael Jordan before he's beating you in one-on-one? Sophomore in high school? Like, he's 5'9, not making.
00:20:06
Speaker 1: The high school team? No, no, he's killing me. No, my prime, I would have cooked him. That's what I'm saying. Johnny, your prime, you're probably beating a sophomore who's not making varsity. So how old? Like, right before his growth spurt probably is the last moment. I mean, he went to USC as a senior. I'd imagine his junior year, he went crazy.
00:20:19
Speaker 2: Like, he probably would have smacked me in my junior year.
00:20:21
Speaker 1: He probably grew between sophomore and junior year or something.
00:20:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever he got over, like, 6'3, I struggle shooting over people like 6'3.
00:20:27
Speaker 1: That was a height where I was like, nigga, I... I might not shoot that well today, nigga. You feel me? I'm about to shoot that bitch from the NBA line.
00:20:39
Speaker 2: You feel me?
00:20:41
Speaker 1: When he got to 6'3, 6'4. Yeah, that's where we get a little dicey. I'll put him in sixth grade. For your basketball prime?
00:20:50
Speaker 3: I just don't know at what point. I did not have a one-on-one game.
00:20:55
Speaker 1: I don't have a one-on-one game either. I was a hard-fouling, put-back rebounder. Yeah. I don't know. You couldn't stop him?
00:21:05
Speaker 3: I don't know at what age I could stop Michael Jordan on the perimeter. He might have had to be.
00:21:12
Speaker 1: In sixth grade, bro. Yeah. I'd imagine he was abnormally strong for his age, too, though. I would assume. Yeah, yeah.
00:21:22
Speaker 2: I mean, the strength would have probably been a big obstacle too.
00:21:26
Speaker 1: They're talking about his growth spurt.
00:21:28
Speaker 3: I remember because I had the.
00:21:31
Speaker 1: VHS, the Michael Jordan's Playground VHS. I would watch that shit like weekly.
00:21:36
Speaker 3: And he would talk about wanting so bad to get taller that he would.
00:21:40
Speaker 1: Go hang on the bars on.
00:21:43
Speaker 3: The playground rip the dead hangs and just hang there and just wait just please like stretch out and i would i was seriously doing that shit elementary school too like i have to get tall this is how michael jordan did.
00:21:56
Speaker 4: Hey man whatever works you were pretty tall pretty early so you know whatever worked for you too maybe yeah.
00:22:04
Speaker 3: Uh michael jordan's brother was five foot nine dunking it's on youtube damn yeah i mean listen.
00:22:10
Speaker 2: I was dunking in high school too when i was five foot nine really you could dunk a five nine damn yeah i mean i was five nine when i graduated i grew two inches on college for some reason like.
00:22:21
Speaker 3: Was that a yeah i love i love i love gross bird stories i that is like as a sports writer yeah.
00:22:30
Speaker 1: I just, I love.
00:22:31
Speaker 3: Asking people because you learn so much about someone asking them like, when did you get tall? Like it's a total, if you were, if you got tall in fifth grade is totally different. And then like, there's people like, you know, I think Clayton Kershaw's entire growth spurt was between 10th and 11th grade. Like, I think he literally grew like a, like he was like five foot seven and then he was six foot four.
00:22:53
Speaker 4: Like I went from five, three to five, 10 in the summer, but basically between freshman and sophomore year.
00:22:59
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Michael Jordan averaged 27 as a junior. Yeah. I think that's when he was before that. And he was six, three. That was your number, bro.
00:23:12
Speaker 3: If he was six, two, you might've had him, but six, 27 in high school.
00:23:16
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I don't know, bro. The athleticism would have been a problem, bro. That's what I'm saying.
00:23:22
Speaker 3: Like I could absolutely see me tripping over myself. trying to stay in front of eighth grade Michael Jordan yeah.
00:23:30
Speaker 4: I think I think freshman or sophomore year is probably the answer for me probably freshman or sophomore year yeah.
00:23:35
Speaker 3: Yeah I don't got the I don't got the hips the bed I got none of it brother I didn't like I mean I'm sliding my ass off but.
00:23:46
Speaker 1: You would have put forth the effort that's what you're saying.
00:23:48
Speaker 3: I would definitely have put forth the effort I could promise you that much all right uh That's.
00:23:55
Speaker 1: A great question. I've never thought about that. It was a great question. Was that Jackson's or was someone in the shot? That was Jackson. That was all Jackson, bro.
00:24:06
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan's not coming up with a question like that. Did you see that Michael Jordan, they're not doing that NBC bullshit with him again?
00:24:12
Speaker 1: Why? Because it was just so bland? Because it was the wacky shit of all time. It was a lot of nothing.
00:24:17
Speaker 3: They spent $ 30 million to get clowned by all of America for how much Michael Jordan fucking played in their face.
00:24:26
Speaker 1: I'll give you an hour. You can cut that shit up.
00:24:31
Speaker 3: Here's my only stipulations. I won't answer any interesting questions. I won't comment on anything that is happening currently. I'll talk about winning though.
00:24:41
Speaker 1: Like I could talk to you about winning. What was the purpose?
00:24:45
Speaker 2: Like what did they think was going to happen with the gave him those stipulations? They just thought because he's MJ people will lock in.
00:24:51
Speaker 1: Yeah. He's competing with a lot more than he was in 96. You know what I mean? As far as like people, entertainment, you know what I mean? Yes. Yes.
00:25:04
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:25:04
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:25:04
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:25:05
Speaker 1: All right. We do have a couple. We got a little news item to get to here and then we got to keep up with the week. News item. Okay.
00:25:14
Speaker 3: We're generally an anti-victim blaming podcast in all forms.
00:25:20
Speaker 1: What happened?
00:25:23
Speaker 3: I am really struggling to find sympathy for the people who got scammed by this fake 49er football player.
00:25:31
Speaker 1: I'm really struggling.
00:25:33
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. I saw you posted it. I don't know completely what happened. I saw like, I'm like, I'm like, that person joking or was it, but they seriously scared people with that.
00:25:44
Speaker 3: He scammed $ 1. 3 million from 50 people, John.
00:25:49
Speaker 1: Oh nigga. Like, okay. That's a lot of money from only 10 people. Can you explain Mike? Yeah. I don't get that. There was a dude.
00:25:59
Speaker 3: Who was pretending on his Instagram to be a member of the San Francisco 49ers for the last couple of seasons.
00:26:08
Speaker 1: Okay. Couple of seasons.
00:26:10
Speaker 3: And the way he was pretending it, John was that he was like, he ordered himself a cake to congratulate himself for signing with the 49ers, a 49er Jersey cake. He would like, he had someone film him running routes on the beach and, Like that are like, it looks like you and me running routes, bro. It's like, it took him eight steps to make the post cut. Like, and he's wearing a helmet, a 49er helmet and no shirt. Fucking pants. He would just like go be in his car talking about like, it's so hard being in the league. And like people, I'm not, everyone was falling for it, but apparently enough people fell for it that he's been arrested for scamming a million plus dollars out of people.
00:27:01
Speaker 1: But how did he scam? Because he would be like, Hey, like, you know, I'm in the NFL.
00:27:05
Speaker 3: This thing with my contracts going on, like I have a business opportunity for you, but like, I can't put my $ 20, 000 into it right now. But like, if you send me your shit that, you know, so if you take the football part out of it, it's a normal con man thing of like, he's pretending to be a rich guy so that people are like, Oh, you know, he's good for whatever. But the crazy thing about it is he's pretending to be a football player and they list the rosters of the football team on the internet.
00:27:35
Speaker 1: Like, that's what they do.
00:27:36
Speaker 2: Why would they do that so publicly, knowing that if somebody tells, there's footage and, like, of him lying.
00:27:43
Speaker 1: And scamming and all the... That's why he got arrested. That's so insane.
00:27:49
Speaker 2: Like, eventually, you're going to jail for this. Wouldn't you want to commit a crime that you think you can get away with? Not something that you know at some point. You go into the Who Scout, nigga, like, and you got all the documentation of all your it is, it is he, or your bullshit.
00:28:05
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. Jackson, can you get the video? I've been seeing it.
00:28:10
Speaker 3: Black winter said the beach videos have had me vomit laughing. But he also kept referring to the NFL as quote football. where like, like, cause he was also trying to hit on women and stuff. And like, someone was like, so why can't I find one video of you playing in college or the pros? And his response was, and I quote, you must not know how football works.
00:28:40
Speaker 1: Okay. You're, you're ready to watch this video. What does that mean? What is it? Okay. Okay. Enjoy this video, John. Okay. Hold on, hold on. His stride is this long, bro.
00:29:18
Speaker 2: Yo, he couldn't do nothing in the motherfucking flag football league, nigga.
00:29:25
Speaker 1: You feel me? In her murals, he would have got cooked. He needs food. Hey, just write that back, please. Nigga, let me see. Motherfucking cut, nigga.
00:29:36
Speaker 4: Oh, shit.
00:29:40
Speaker 1: Shit. Hey, yo, they got scared by this, nigga. They really didn't know how football works. He was right. This is the best part of the video, right here. This is the best part of the video, right here. Yo! This is not a... Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Why you got the helmet on? This nigga look like a bobblehead. What the fuck going on, bro? This is a weird world we live in, nigga. I got the brick right in time, dog. Right in time. I did not need this. Oh, no. That is crazy, nigga. Yo! Yo! Nigga's feet slow as a motherfucker. That's crazy. Oh, man. People was falling for that bullshit. People were falling for it. More than, more than, more than one person, more than one person was falling. That is crazy. Oh shit.
00:30:54
Speaker 4: I got it.
00:30:54
Speaker 2: I might have to tap it. I'm gonna turn this brick off for that, bro. Y'all finna have me doom scrolling. that shit crazy.
00:31:05
Speaker 3: Well he it's insane how everyone um hemsism is requesting the picture of him in business cash with the helmet um people have gone because all his stuff was public john and he literally was like follow me on my journey i'm trying to show y'all the other side.
00:31:22
Speaker 1: Of football that people don't really see But, like, everyone's going back and looking through everything. John, he did a turkey giveaway, bro. Like... Like, really, really? Or just staged that? Do we know if it's true or not? He put a flyer up, like.
00:31:43
Speaker 1: Bruce Wang wants a brick update.
00:31:45
Speaker 3: I'm going to ask John on one of the podcasts this week about the brick, because I'm, like, 50-50 on it as well.
00:31:50
Speaker 1: So, I said, why don't we... How about he.
00:31:53
Speaker 3: Has it for a week first, and then we'll... We'll get on it. No address on the flyer.
00:31:58
Speaker 1: Just a place to donate money for the turkeys. Oh, shit. Niggas will fall for anything, bro. Man. That's tough. Anyway. Oh, man. I'm looking at a picture of this nigga, bro. Crazy. I think the thing that's sad is....
00:32:23
Speaker 3: He is going to get out of jail and make money off of being famous for this, which I think we all should like, except now, like he was making money off of being pretend famous. And like, now he is like, everyone's been talking about him for like four days. So he is now actually famous, you know?
00:32:39
Speaker 1: Like, what is it? Oh God.
00:32:42
Speaker 2: Fame is just so weird now because there's like not oftentimes there's no talent attached to it.
00:32:49
Speaker 1: Like, how do you... It's just brazenness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. They said he has the helmet while he's driving. Wait.
00:33:05
Speaker 4: What?
00:33:09
Speaker 2: This nigga driving in the helmet shut the fuck up are you kidding me.
00:33:14
Speaker 6: I haven't seen one of him driving with it on but he's always finding he's always finding a way to position the helmet so that it's visible because he clearly spent real money on the helmet and so that is.
00:33:27
Speaker 1: Crazy See, I wish he wasn't actually a scammer.
00:33:30
Speaker 4: And it was just, it was just, this was just funny because I do think, I do think being a producer for this, someone said in the chat, he should do it, start an NFL player pod. And I do think I would have a lot of fun producing like an onion style, fake player podcast, but he's really scamming people.
00:33:45
Speaker 1: So that's not, here's, here's the, here's the thing, bro.
00:33:48
Speaker 3: And again, like I'm a very sympathetic, empathetic person, but some people, deserve to have their money stolen from them oh and if you fall for this i will personally steal your money from you.
00:34:05
Speaker 1: As well.
00:34:10
Speaker 3: Because people that are so stupid to fall for this you didn't even.
00:34:13
Speaker 1: Need to do anything illegal to take their money bro maybe them people were old bro That's the thing. That's not... Old people ain't... No, no, no. It's not who's been revealed as... It's different with old people. I agree. Yeah, old people ain't built for this world, bro. Yeah, I agree. They licks. They easily.
00:34:29
Speaker 2: They out here just looking like food to a scammer.
00:34:32
Speaker 1: It's cold. It's a cold game. So they old... That's rough. My mom and I have an agreement.
00:34:38
Speaker 3: I was like, I'll bail you out of whatever situation you need bailed, but don't have both of us out here looking stupid because my mom invented the phrase too stupid to live. That's like a signature saying of my mom's that she would say.
00:34:50
Speaker 1: About people, bro. What a legend. What a legend.
00:34:54
Speaker 3: But that's what she said. She said the first time she got fooled by AI, she.
00:34:58
Speaker 1: Deleted her Facebook account. Oh, that's what she said?
00:35:02
Speaker 3: She said exactly what you said. She was like, this is not for me. I'm not going to be out here trying to figure out what's real and not real. I can see the shit outside my window is real. The shit I see in the real world is real.
00:35:12
Speaker 2: We talked about this, but it's getting so, like, I was having a conversation.
00:35:16
Speaker 1: I know, say, let's have a conversation. Wait, I'll talk to you about it, Mike. Let's have a.
00:35:19
Speaker 2: Conversation with somebody. And I was like, yo, is this person real? And they were like, she looks real. And I was like, because she's a black woman. And the person I was with was fake. And I'm like, she's bad, but I'm not attracted to her. I don't find anything attractive about her. Like, I normally would think this person's attractive. There's something off about her. And I looked it up, and she was AI. And it's like, you can tell when somebody, you know, like, it doesn't, it didn't feel real.
00:35:45
Speaker 1: Like, she looked real, but it didn't feel real. You feel me? So, like, I can't, it's getting, they're getting cold with it, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:35:53
Speaker 2: Like, if it was a white woman, I probably would have thought she was real.
00:35:57
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? The sniff test wouldn't have been there. I don't know. You have to respect him.
00:36:03
Speaker 3: He wasn't using AI. He went to fans at the mall and paid $ 300 for that helmet. That episode of The Simpsons where Marge has that one Chanel outfit and she cuts it up like seven different ways so the ladies at the country club think she's not poor. That was him. He would get one piece of 49ers workout gear and he would find every different angle to shoot it from.
00:36:26
Speaker 1: Like I got to.
00:36:27
Speaker 3: Get at least six videos out of this $ 50 workout shirt.
00:36:32
Speaker 1: How much did that helmet cost? You said he spent some real money on them. Let's just get pretty expensive, right?
00:36:36
Speaker 3: That's why I think he was putting it in. Like he fake signed a contract, John. And it's like the whole time, this whole thing is public. It's all public. You can't secretly sign to the NFL.
00:36:48
Speaker 1: You can't do it.
00:36:49
Speaker 3: And Mina Kimes, friend of the show pointed out, It's a sick statement on how fucked up Google is that the Google AI search, he put so much fake shit out there about being on the 49ers that if you Google him, the Google AI said he was on the 49ers. The Google AI summary, which is nasty. So the only other thing I'll throw out there, because I do know how football works, you ask the pro athletes for money. They don't ask you for money. And I'm not saying me, but I'm just like, if you ever known someone who made it to the NFL, that's like a running job.
00:37:28
Speaker 1: I always joke, how many cousins did you find out you had? All of a sudden. All of a sudden, they got a dad again. Nigga, I ain't. What the fuck? You know what I mean? I've seen it happen.
00:37:41
Speaker 3: I've seen that exact scenario happen.
00:37:44
Speaker 1: Draft party. Nah. Right. Who? Nope. No thanks. We just got the same last name, brother. I do not know you.
00:37:56
Speaker 3: We put the reservation in for a fixed number. Anyway, shout out to this guy. They really didn't know how football works. Mary hit it on the head.
00:38:06
Speaker 1: They didn't know. All right. Dookie Bud of the Week. Should we do it? Let's do it. Let's do it. Jackson, who's your Dookie Bud of the Week?
00:38:19
Speaker 4: My dookie butt of the week is a co-dookie butt of the week between Lonzo Ball and Michael Porter Jr.
00:38:26
Speaker 1: Oh, no. You didn't see their thing? I did not see their thing. You guys haven't seen this? I did not. I've been trying to follow up.
00:38:34
Speaker 2: I heard Lonzo said something about not regretting big baller shoes.
00:38:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was interesting. I mean, that stuff was interesting about Lonzo's life. I didn't see anything else. That's not even what I'm talking about. But Michael Porter Jr. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. This is.
00:38:45
Speaker 3: This is such a real comment from Dare. He said, the only reason I wanted to go to the league as a kid is because I thought it would make my dad show up and I wanted the satisfaction of saying I didn't know it.
00:38:55
Speaker 1: I would wait for this so badly. Bro, we all need therapy. We all need therapy. We scarred. Help me with this exact issue. If you're in your 30s, is it not a little old? I want to make a dream come true just so I can shit on my father. Like, That was a main goal behind. Damn, that's crazy. Yeah, it be like that, though. It be like that. It do. It do be like that. You feel me? It really go ahead though. Jackson. Sorry. Yeah. It's okay.
00:39:32
Speaker 4: So Michael Porter jr. Went on Lonzo balls podcast. At least that's my understanding. My read of the situation.
00:39:36
Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting duo.
00:39:39
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:39:39
Speaker 1: You know, they got a lot of thoughts. Both those guys got a lot, a lot of thoughts, especially in Michael Porter jr. And I don't know if they, how this question was asked.
00:39:46
Speaker 4: I didn't, I should have watched more of it, I guess. but there was like a hypothetical question. They were both pondering the hypothetical, actually not really pondering. They had a pretty strong answer. It was, would you press a button? And if you press that button, you get a billion dollars. The other thing that happens, someone somewhere in the world that you don't know dies. Would you kill someone for a billion dollars is the question. Now they said, fuck yeah. They both said, run me my money immediately. And Michael Porter Jr. tried to couch it by being like, well, if I give $ 100 million of the billion to charity, then really the net positive I'm doing for society outweighs it.
00:40:27
Speaker 1: So I'm really doing a good thing, actually. You're calculating somebody's value monetarily. Correct. And that was going to save. Yeah, that's crazy. Tough one for those. Even if you think yes, the answer is no. Correct. Exactly. You know what I mean?
00:40:43
Speaker 3: I've had plenty of times it would have been hard to say no.
00:40:47
Speaker 1: And that's what I was going to say. On camera, would you ever have said yes, even at those times? When you're an NBA player who's worth nine figures.
00:40:57
Speaker 3: Well, and they, I'm sorry, but the Ball family did not grow up like not able to eat or something.
00:41:03
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Mike. I don't know Michael Porter Jr. I'm not judging as hard.
00:41:07
Speaker 3: People who've been on the bottom end of the capitalist spectrum and seen the way that human life is devalued, I understand them sometimes having a.
00:41:17
Speaker 1: Mentality of kill or be killed.
00:41:20
Speaker 3: I understand that to some extent, but that's not.
00:41:23
Speaker 1: Michael Porter Jr.
00:41:24
Speaker 4: Is making $ 40 million to play basketball this year. And he's going to sign another contract after this for $ 200.
00:41:37
Speaker 1: Million, probably. Yeah. Yeah. So that's my dick about the week. You know, classic. He's really good at basketball. Classic stuff. Let's just ask him basketball questions.
00:41:49
Speaker 4: Agreed.
00:41:50
Speaker 1: I will go next. I'll just say, go ahead. Yeah. Okay. I did, though. It's a different one. It's apples and oranges. Okay. Okay.
00:42:05
Speaker 3: Um, I, my dookie buddy of the week is that I am currently beefing with a church, which is a new experience for me.
00:42:15
Speaker 1: I'm usually, oh yeah.
00:42:17
Speaker 3: Um, we do live across the street from a church and this church.
00:42:25
Speaker 1: Beef with Jesus? No. No. I wouldn't judge you. With Jesus? Damn, guys. What did they do? Or what did you do? Okay.
00:42:36
Speaker 3: I have not yet done what I am willing to do. And I hope they understand that I am willing to do what I said I'm willing to do.
00:42:43
Speaker 1: But there is a church across the street from my house.
00:42:46
Speaker 3: We live in like a public, like.
00:42:49
Speaker 1: We're in the burbs, but we're like in like a majorly traffic area.
00:42:53
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, it's unhoused people and stuff like that. So this church put a security system on that is verbal.
00:43:06
Speaker 1: And if it says. You are trespassing on private property. You are being recorded. Please exit the premises. No, this is. Wait, wait, wait, wait. How sensitive is it, though? So like you heard this before.
00:43:23
Speaker 3: It says it at about 50 fucking decibels across the street from my bedroom where I sleep. And last night, it said it five times between 3 and 4 o'clock in the morning.
00:43:36
Speaker 1: Oh, that's crazy. No. Who was over there, though? That motherfucker was really trying to get in there. I can see over there, it was no one over there.
00:43:43
Speaker 3: So it was probably a fucking cat or a skunk or some shit walking through there.
00:43:48
Speaker 1: Oh, no.
00:43:49
Speaker 3: So I sent them an email, and it may not have been wise to send the email at 3.30 in the morning.
00:43:55
Speaker 1: But I sent them an email and said....
00:44:00
Speaker 3: Unless you would like this announcement to be played at your church's doors at 10 a.m. on Sunday in the middle of your service, you need to turn that shit down or turn it off. And if you think it's inappropriate to play this out loud while people are trying to do things in their place of dwelling, I agree with you, which is why I would like to be fucking asleep at three o'clock in.
00:44:26
Speaker 1: The morning instead of listening to You are trespassing on private property.
00:44:32
Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, you ain't just want to, like, have a casual conversation with him prior to.
00:44:38
Speaker 1: Like, coming with the smoke, nigga. Like, immediate smoke.
00:44:43
Speaker 2: Like, you ain't be like, that shit tweaking.
00:44:45
Speaker 1: Can you fix that? I clocked off work at midnight. I clocked off work at midnight.
00:44:49
Speaker 2: Like, can you, like, hey, yo, this shit going on, like, it's going on.
00:44:53
Speaker 1: Can we get a fix for this? This nigga said, look. I'm pulling up to your shit. There's no, it's like zero to a hundred.
00:45:03
Speaker 2: They go like, there's probably three steps in between this motherfucker.
00:45:06
Speaker 1: Like I'm getting this fixed today. Mike, you got to remember that.
00:45:13
Speaker 4: You got to remember that even, and especially security systems are heaven sent. Even security systems are heaven sent.
00:45:24
Speaker 1: Hey, didn't you say that shit was inhumane? I think that's when I logged on. Y'all was talking about, you said it's inhumane. I'm like, I ain't know what y'all was talking about. It's inhumane, dog. Like, there's people living here, sleeping. 3.30 in the morning. That is crazy. That really is crazy to play it that loud. If you can hear, you guys, let's across the street. No, we have double pane windows. Yeah, that's not that close. Wait, wait, wait. Did Shara wake up? Both of y'all was up on that shit? Or it just got you?
00:45:52
Speaker 3: What's crazy is it has woken Shara up.
00:45:55
Speaker 1: She is the light sleeper. I normally sleep through anything.
00:46:00
Speaker 3: I think I was so anxious last night because I got like four hours of sleep Friday night because we.
00:46:05
Speaker 1: Worked till like three.
00:46:07
Speaker 3: And then he had to go to that showcase shit in LA. And then after I came home from LA, from the showcase, went straight to work from like four to midnight. And in my head, I'm like, if I don't get a good night's sleep tonight, this could be.
00:46:19
Speaker 1: A fucked up week. It can be really rough.
00:46:22
Speaker 2: The people within this dwelling too, because you ain't your best self type shit.
00:46:26
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to go back into those trenches. Like I need to get my sleep tonight. You ain't trying to be like me, nigga. Yeah.
00:46:33
Speaker 2: You had your fill.
00:46:35
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I respect you. You are trespassing on private property. Motherfucker. Mike was in that motherfucking toilet. I had his hell, bro. That nigga sent that email smoking hot. He probably almost broke the damn computer keys, nigga. That shit crazy. If you think it's okay. You said that shit at 345. That's crazy. I get it now. I get it now. Hopefully it's Remedy, bro, but I really will go all the way crazy with it. Have you got a response yet? Or did this happen this weekend? It happened last night. Oh, okay. So Monday, probably. Well, it's not Sunday. They working on Sunday. I don't know if the administration is working.
00:47:27
Speaker 2: I think there's church, but I don't think the people that run the church, they got nine to fives, nigga.
00:47:35
Speaker 1: Slackers. Anyway, bro, it's like... I know where their priorities are. You gotta stop. Whoa. I know where those priorities are. It's waking me up at 3.30 in the fucking morning, bro. I mean, I... Yeah, that's some bullshit. And also, like, it's hard when you already tired. And it's some bullshit.
00:47:58
Speaker 2: Like, I shouldn't have to deal with this shit.
00:48:02
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:48:04
Speaker 2: Like, they should have common sense to know this is not the way to move.
00:48:08
Speaker 3: Or just play it a couple times before you leave, maybe, after you activate it. See what this shit sounds like to the people who are living around you.
00:48:16
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:48:18
Speaker 2: Does it need to be that loud for that person right in front to know that they're being recorded?
00:48:23
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
00:48:24
Speaker 2: I don't think, you know, people across the street or in houses furthers need to hear that shit, too.
00:48:31
Speaker 1: Yeah. In their own homes. That's crazy. Yeah. Anyway, John, what's your do-gooder of the week? Humanity. Oh. No, for sure, bro. I called Mike. I had a.
00:48:45
Speaker 2: Conversation about this earlier this week.
00:48:48
Speaker 1: I called Rada. She was like, I'm trying to... I'm trying to care, John. I just... She was busy. She was busy. She was busy. She's like, I'm trying. I just got... She actually had to do... She had the time for me. But... So I called Mike. But... The humans have been around for 300,000 years. Yeah. Right. Dinosaurs existed for 167 million. Okay. Right. 165 million. I think actually. Yeah. I trust you on the numbers, but yeah. Yeah. Anyway, must to us 2 million anyway.
00:49:18
Speaker 2: So, um, we're already at the point where they're already talking about our demise and we clown dinosaurs for how stupid they are. We might go out in the dumbest way possible, which is at our own due.
00:49:32
Speaker 1: To our own decision-making.
00:49:34
Speaker 2: We're supposed to be the most brilliant beings or species has ever existed on the planet. We've been here like a blip compared to what we, the people, the species we make fun of for how stupid they were. They had brains like chickens. Nigga, they were here 167 million years. We've been here 300,000 and now it's a trillion fucking, we can, it's 27 degrees hotter in Paris than it was the year before.
00:50:01
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
00:50:02
Speaker 2: Like it's, it's 90 degrees, it's 60% humidity in LA right now.
00:50:08
Speaker 1: You feel me?
00:50:08
Speaker 2: Like, we're fucking up our planet and it's hard to get people to make decisions to go the right way. Like, and we're supposed to be so fucking brilliant. And if there, if there's another species that makes it to where we're at and, and realizes like that humans existed, you feel on this planet, they will, after we're not here, they will clown the fuck out of us. It's just so interesting to me that, We're so smart. We're in comparison to other species. And our intelligence is what is, will be the reason we get about this motherfucker.
00:50:47
Speaker 1: Like, and I just think like I was talking to Mike about this.
00:50:50
Speaker 2: Why aren't people like, why is this not the biggest fucking deal to everybody? Like why it's, it's many people are just somewhat like lying.
00:51:02
Speaker 1: Like it's, it's.
00:51:04
Speaker 3: 90 everyone everyone is lying to themselves to some extent.
00:51:09
Speaker 2: To some extent because like me including you including for sure for sure for sure if i really thought about this too much i couldn't go to work tomorrow yeah you know i mean it'd be hard to do the normal things like you know i mean like if i thought about it too much but it's just truly insane that it's not a bigger deal to everybody maybe because it's just you know it's It's hard for us to fathom or if we were to really think about it, we wouldn't be able to do regular shit.
00:51:34
Speaker 1: But gee, like this. I just I just don't understand why it's not the biggest deal in the world right now. But I think so.
00:51:43
Speaker 3: You and I talked about a couple of things, one being that like the way our brains all work. And it's the same thing if you're writing about budget cuts. No one gives a fuck about budget cuts. If you say someone's library is going to be closed two hours a day.
00:51:56
Speaker 1: Now, a lot of people care. It's too big of an issue for us to wrap our head around.
00:52:01
Speaker 3: So I feel like, you know, Jackson was just talking about, like, you know, tropical storms, like. weather events people care about enormously you look at that horrible shit that happened in nepal like that's a climate change event yeah people see that video and it's all they could think about is so horrible but you don't connect it to particles in the air you don't connect it to the the bigger the bigger storyline and i do think that part of that is evolutionary of like we are still animals and the function of our brains getting bigger is to figure out.
00:52:34
Speaker 1: How to get food for the day Right, right.
00:52:37
Speaker 2: To get better at that, not necessarily get better at solving global issues that are dealing with, you know.
00:52:44
Speaker 3: So immediate concern versus global concern. And I just think that's the challenge of it. But I also think that's why you had this. experience that everyone had.
00:52:56
Speaker 1: Who is alive like we were.
00:52:58
Speaker 3: And sentient when the internet came into being that all of a sudden you started seeing all the individual horrible things that were happening at once instead of the stuff that got filmed and put on the news in your city or whatever and it was just like someone was smashing your brain with a sledgehammer or something right like Yeah, but I just, I think we're not equipped to deal with the size of the problem.
00:53:23
Speaker 1: But I just feel at this point, like, we all are experiencing global warming. We're not, it's not a conversation. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we're experiencing it.
00:53:32
Speaker 2: Like, we're walking out and we can't deny, like, even if you are lying to yourself, saying it's a hoax, you can't lie and say.
00:53:40
Speaker 1: It's not supposed to be this hot in August. Like, you know, like, you feel me? Like, you can't, And it's not just.
00:53:52
Speaker 2: The weather in itself is more unpredictable, which is part of it as well, where it'll snow in weird times.
00:54:00
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
00:54:01
Speaker 2: You can't deny that the climate is much different than it was 20, 30 years ago.
00:54:08
Speaker 1: Even if you're not watching.
00:54:10
Speaker 2: documentaries on the polar caps.
00:54:11
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And you're not, you know, paying attention to that.
00:54:14
Speaker 2: Like you go outside and it feels like it's, it's more humid than Florida and California and LA.
00:54:22
Speaker 3: LA was the most humid part of the United States of America. I don't know that that's ever happened.
00:54:28
Speaker 2: The Pacific is so warm that like, great whites or like, you know, that was not, the water was 80 degrees.
00:54:36
Speaker 3: The water was 80 degrees.
00:54:37
Speaker 1: Like, you know what I'm saying? Like the Pacific ocean was 80 degrees. That's not normal. That's never been normal. Like, you know what I mean?
00:54:45
Speaker 2: So it's just, you can't, you can, you can only lie to yourself so much, you know, at this point. And it's just so crazy how we just refuse to.
00:54:56
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know.
00:54:57
Speaker 2: It should be the most important thing on everybody's mind to me.
00:55:01
Speaker 1: Um, and it's just, it's just not, you know? Yep.
00:55:04
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:55:05
Speaker 2: And I, like we were talking about too, like we're the people who are at least in this, you know, regime or whatever you want to call Trump and his, you know, cronies and all that bullshit. It feels like we really, it's like the government is supposed to be doing things to handle that. And we can't, they're too powerful for us to just like, you know, we, we can't, we, I, I, I would understand at this point feeling like, you know, with them in power, feeling a little, like, you know, helpless.
00:55:31
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But it's a global issue. It's not just United States. So anyway. All right.
00:55:37
Speaker 3: Shout out to my beautiful wife who's not going to listen to this podcast. If you're listening to this on Monday, it is our 19th wedding anniversary, which is some crazy shit.
00:55:47
Speaker 1: 24 years. Big congrats. Big congrats. 24 years together, 19 years married, you know? So.
00:55:52
Speaker 4: Fuck.
00:55:52
Speaker 1: Jesus, bro. Fuck with it. Fuck with it. You know? So you've been at this point, y'all been married longer than y'all. Like, so y'all been married long. We started dating when we were 18 and we've been there.
00:56:09
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:56:10
Speaker 1: Crazy. Whoa. Yeah. It's great. I don't know.
00:56:15
Speaker 3: Like the, the bigger that number gets, the weird, it seems to, it's just.
00:56:19
Speaker 1: Like, well, I don't know. It's crazy. Cool. Beautiful. I think we're taking our kids out to dinner. Is that all y'all? All y'all? Yeah, we're just going to go out and have a good night. Come on.
00:56:32
Speaker 3: We were watching Stranger Things with the kids. Come home and start the fifth season.
00:56:36
Speaker 1: Are y'all planning on doing something big for 20? I think so. Okay.
00:56:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. So August 24th was like our first date. So we always just try to do something between the 24th and the 31st.
00:56:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Because with our jobs, with her.
00:56:54
Speaker 3: Starting school, football season starting for me, it's always kind of like whenever we can make a shake, but we, we did for the, it was, that was our first night away from the kids for our, whatever the previous one was 15th and 20th or something. We w we went to San Diego for a weekend and, uh, left, left the kids. Char's mom came over and stayed with the kids.
00:57:15
Speaker 1: We don't got nowhere. We could drop them off. So, uh, yeah, that was cool. It was cool. So I don't know. We'll do something. August 24th. Like what? Like you just remember that because it was Char or like, is there just something happening? It was just our first date. Do you remember y'all first date, Jackson? Am I tripping? Well, I remember when we met. I also, I also, I don't remember like the date.
00:57:34
Speaker 3: I also, I also proposed on that, because we celebrated our dating anniversary.
00:57:40
Speaker 1: So I proposed on that day and then we got married the 31st.
00:57:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can tell you when Kim and I met at a Halloween party that we were hosting and then we officially started dating, like became officially together on the following January 1st, two months later.
00:57:55
Speaker 2: I just remember moments.
00:57:56
Speaker 1: I don't remember like... I don't remember dates at all. Other than like the anniversary. I don't remember like... The wedding anniversary? Yeah, the wedding anniversary. I've talked about this though. You guys go by wedding anniversary? Mike? Yeah, yeah. We just have that week. It's like the 24th through the 31st.
00:58:12
Speaker 3: And it's just like whatever makes sense in our current lives to do, we do it.
00:58:16
Speaker 1: And I keep both numbers. But we were.
00:58:19
Speaker 3: I mean, I told Shaw I loved her on our third date. And I proposed to her three years after we started dating.
00:58:24
Speaker 1: So like... It was... I don't know. It wasn't like it is now.
00:58:30
Speaker 3: I was just trying to explain the talking stage to my mom. You know, like we have, Char and I know kids where they refer to people as their ex talking stage.
00:58:40
Speaker 4: Nice.
00:58:41
Speaker 3: And you're just like, you know, this is my mom is like, I'm glad I'm not raising kids right now. Like it's complicated as shit. I was like, for me, we went on our first date and I was like, cool. And I think I told her a third or fourth date. I was like, if you ever get sick of me, you are going to have to be the one Don't do that shit where you try and like run me off.
00:58:58
Speaker 1: I'm not going. You got me.
00:59:03
Speaker 3: You will have to say, I don't want you around anymore.
00:59:07
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So, yeah. So to me- that's why that date was significant. For sure, for sure. Yeah, okay, cool. That makes sense.
00:59:14
Speaker 2: I think, like, when I didn't understand shit, people were like, yeah, we're hooking up.
00:59:18
Speaker 1: I was like, does that mean you're talking, fucking?
00:59:21
Speaker 2: Like, that's when shit started getting confusing to me.
00:59:24
Speaker 1: Like, what are y'all? Maybe that's some white people shit. Maybe that's what I don't understand. It's intentionally ambiguous, I think. Yeah, okay. So, yeah, okay. Okay. You were hooking him like, I don't know what's going on. It's like when you don't really want to, you're not.
00:59:35
Speaker 4: Sure, but you want to tell people that you kind of got something going on.
00:59:39
Speaker 3: I was very unambiguous about that shit, especially because we were long distance while we were in college.
00:59:44
Speaker 1: Not that long distance. Not everyone's as sure as me. Bro, you were in Long Beach. She was in LA, dog. It's medium distance for sure. It's medium distance for sure. No, that was.
00:59:53
Speaker 3: That was a tough four years for us, brother, especially she didn't have a car.
00:59:55
Speaker 1: So it was, I was, hey, John.
00:59:58
Speaker 5: Your ass on the road though, right? You was hitting that road, brother. You feel me? I was just telling a young person who worked for us. I was calling her dorm room landline from the pay phone by class is how long ago we started dating.
01:00:16
Speaker 1: Using a fucking....
01:00:19
Speaker 3: Minutes card that I stole from the student store.
01:00:25
Speaker 1: That's so fire though. Remember when you left the house and you was gone, bro, you had to catch somebody. I remember leaving long beach to go to LA to go. You never had experienced that. Everybody has cell phones when you were.
01:00:40
Speaker 4: It wasn't smartphones, but by the time that I had my license, like before that, sure. But by the time that I had like actual personal freedom, I could drive. I had my license and, Everyone had a cell phone, not a smartphone. I don't think at that point, but a cell phone. Yeah.
01:00:52
Speaker 3: We had pay to text. So we would send each other like the 700. That was the first year we got Virgin mobile pay to text. I think our third year of college, something like that. We would send that text was like, yeah, fucking essay.
01:01:06
Speaker 1: This shit could cost me 10 cents, bro. I'm getting it. I'm getting it. I'm getting the full value of this text. We got to make the whole plan in two texts. Yo, that's crazy. Is the parking spot of the apartment going to be there? If not, let me know and I will do this. I'm thinking for dinner we can do this. On the touch phone. The plane and the backup plane. Three times to get to L. That's crazy. All right.
01:01:34
Speaker 3: That's all the time we got. We'll be back with a couple episodes this week. We don't have the schedule just yet, but we will see y'all then. Hope everyone has a great start to their week.
01:01:42
Speaker 1: Bye.
01:01:43
Speaker 3: Bye.
01:01:43
Speaker 1: Bye.
