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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be Jack, I have fan-sided here with NFL expert Marcus Mosher week five around the NFL wrapped up Marcus and as of this recording we are exactly a month away from the NFL trade deadline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be coming up on us pretty fast here now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We just saw
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[SPEAKER_00]: a big trade around the NFL Marvin Harris and Junior got sent to the Houston Texans who could be next what could be happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to talk specific players today, but what we are going to talk mark is is which teams could be or should be buyers or sellers at the NFL trade deadline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're not going to go with the obvious today like the Miami dolphins who are clearly not playing for this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to pick some teams kind of in the middle of the pack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and what direction should they choose because we know this league is about windows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about opening a window at the right time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do these teams actually have a chance to open a window or should they be sellers at the deadline?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Should be fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also think the trade deadlines are month away, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think you're going to see a lot more trades like in the next week or so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason why is you just get these players a lot longer and I think rather than waiting until November to see how you fit in the system, I think that's why you're seeing teams like the Cowboys who went out and traded for Joey Porter Jr. in the Texans who traded for Marvin here as a junior as you mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to get these guys in the building right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that way they can start making a run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there's several teams in this list or they're kind of on the fringes that I could see making some trades to try to get better right now so that you can maybe potentially go on that late season run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you already know your direction, you might as well not delay until the last possible second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for some of these teams, we'll see if they decide to go one direction or the other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's start here with the New York giants and just what a wonky season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Three one and one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got very fortunate with the just the debacle at the end of that game against the commanders there where they couldn't get the fuel off probably should have lost in the end there, but they're sitting a top they're division.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They help but they also got James Winston as their quarterback in Jackson Darts out for the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This one's really hard for me because.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that, obviously, they got a veteran head coach in John Harbour, they want to win now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what are their realistic chances when you don't have your starting franchise quarterback and you're making do with a one of the most high variance quarterbacks in the league?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Either way, Marcus, I mean, that NFC East is truly up for grabs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that the giant should still be buyers even with their backup quarterback?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I've mixed feelings in this one because that part of me feels like when you watch the the Rams the 49ers in the seahawksus weekend and you just know that like if if the giants were to win the division Pretty good odds that you're gonna be facing one of those teams in round one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because two of them are gonna be wild card teams I don't like their chances.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They really they blew this game multiple different times They were down by 14 points in the second half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had to you know mount that big comeback and if the commanders just
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[SPEAKER_01]: figured out that late game situation that, you know, they're three and two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also could see the giants making a trade not just for this year, but also for like a future year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is like something that like, I'm going to use the Cowboys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Cowboys did last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They traded for Quinn and Williams at the deadline, not because of what he was going to do to help them in 2025, but what they thought he could help do in like 2026 in beyond.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So could like the giants go out and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me give you a name, Denzel War, again, don't get too hung up on the name, but Denzel War, a corner bed that could be, a guy that can help them this year and beyond when you get Jackson Dar, I do think that makes some sense, and with the NFC East being this bad, I would not be opposed to the giant's making a small trade for a player to help them be a little bit more competent now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's kind of where I am with them as well and do don't do anything that's going to hurt the future of your team because I still think the future is going to be down the line it's not right now like we said we could win the division right now, what they are clearly behind those top NFC teams anything can happen in the postseason, but I kind of I just it's not a good situation to be in, but if you are to make a move maybe that type one that can help you maybe secure that division at least have a chance for your division now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but also gives you a two or three year window that you can open up there with them as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk Cleveland Browns here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Another team that surprisingly entering week six here has a winning record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if anybody would have predicted that Marcus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, the whole AFC North has a winning record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: at the moment right now will it stay that way though and this is what we have to look at the Baltimore Ravens are foreign one they just want to game without Lamar Jackson you could argue maybe they should have lost that game but they're foreign one without Lamar Jackson the bangles are three and two the Steelers are three and two do the Browns really have a chance here should they be buyers or sellers I know that Todd Munkin is an older head coach though of a first time head coach
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing surprisingly well, but which direction should this team go right now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's for the same reasons I feel about the giants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not because I think they're going to be a contender this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you look at their offense, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got a lot of really good young players, Quinshawn Judkins, Casey Conception, Denzel Boss and looks like he's going to be a superstar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Harold Fannon's a really good young, young, tight end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've solved their offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see them continue to upgrade their defense and find some guys that can fit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got all these picks and I'm sure they're going to use these picks on a quarter back next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you can fill in some of the needs on defense, it just takes some things off your checklist next off season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like could they go out and get a better edge russia to pair with Jared verse?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that makes some sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like Isaiah McWire, but they need some more juice off the edge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could use another linebacker, especially with Carson Swester,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The bronze have got a lot of assets and I think it's okay if they try to go out there and be a little bit more competitive that I think they're a fun team right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they really are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've got a lot of young talent marks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My favorite type of trade for the Browns if they were to pull one off would be Something along the lines of getting a player who has still a year or two left on that rookie deal because I think Again, Browns can try to maximize that window this year and keep this momentum going, but also they're just a really young roster in general.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they can kind of crack this window wide open for three, four, five years, they have the chance to do so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously, we got to see what the long-term quarterback situation looks like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they've got the foundation of the roster kind of in place now and at a lot of key positions and you meet receivers, one that you just mentioned, guys that are going to be on rookie deals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that they probably should be buyers considering how tight this division is and maybe go after a guy that kind of fits in alliance with that window coming up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I give you a name again?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't want to get hung up too much in names, but I'm looking at a guy like Leia to Latu, who is with the culture right now, who I think is a good starting address, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's a superstar, but he's a younger player on a team, which we'll talk about the culture a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm blanking out of this name right now, the defense of tackles that they have right now, I think they could be a really good defensive line and keeps you in a lot of games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will see what they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can see them being aggressive considering how hot they started the season here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about my Pittsburgh Steelers here for a moment sitting at three and two coming off of win over the Colts and they they've obviously had the the easy half of their schedule isn't placed right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see how they do in the second half of the season after their week nine by.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, this team,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want to have their feet in both doorways because their offseason moves said let's go out and bring back a 42 year old quarterback and trade for Michael Pittman, which we didn't know how much she had left in the tank and apparently it's not a lot even when he's healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, it's like they made 10 draft picks and almost all of them are kind of plays for the future where it's guys that are raw or not really contributing to the team a whole lot right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Their direction, though, I think at the end of the day, is we want to win playoff games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we want to avoid a 10-year drought without a playoff win, Rodgers turns 43 in December.
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[SPEAKER_00]: TJ Watt just had his birthday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's 32 years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jalen Ramsey, 32 years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this team, they've had an aging out roster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got to try to do something right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know how well their chances are of actually competing in the postseason, but obviously, I think that if they were to do anything, they're going to be buyers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, Malik Collins was the name I was trying to figure out could not get for the Browns, but yeah, I agree with the Steelers, but I think there's a couple spots that you could potentially do I think the most obvious is at corner back and I know they just traded away Joey Porter Jr.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So why not just keep that's a contract thing, but do I think they could go out there and find a starting caliber corner back that's fairly cheap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do and I don't think it would cost them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: an arm in a leg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the other spot is obviously wide receiver with all of the injuries they have to micropitmen, wills and Ben Scuronic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the idea is
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[SPEAKER_01]: you go out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You spend a premium draft pick on a receiver that not just helps this year, but helps in the upcoming years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is those guys are really hard to find.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even guys that aren't producing like Marvin Harris and Junior, they go for second-round picks, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's going to be the issue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when Pittsburgh be willing to give up a second-round pick for a
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[SPEAKER_01]: relatively unknown or would they be more likely to go out and try to trade something for somebody like Terry McClearn who is I think 31 years old who's on a Washington team that's probably not going anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see but I think those are the two positions that Pittsburgh could go after.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah absolutely Roman Wilson's injured for the next several weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've hit me on IR.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I created no separation in me and coverage anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've really year-over-lying on
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[SPEAKER_00]: the guy got my eye on right now and I don't know if they would be willing to sell be even as an old and five foot ball team right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lad McConkey, I think that if you can it rid him of that situation, but they only have so many assets anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of their, well, three more assets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you another player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You, you tell me if you do this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would, if you're, the Steelers, would you give up, let's say a second and a fourth for Roma do and say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's intriguing at least, yeah, that's intriguing at least.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that his career's been a little bit up and down so far, but I mean, I think that they would certainly consider that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They would certainly consider that considering their situation and trying to, again, snap that playoff drought.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will see, and we may be able to dive into more player specific trade talk later on here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go to the Carolina Panthers now, though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a team that, again, you talk about a division that is very much up for grabs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the NFC South.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What should they do here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Should they do anything in this division?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, the Falcons looked like they were heating up a little bit there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How did she anticipate the ravens?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That could have changed things up a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bucks bad football team this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That the saints, I don't know if they're going to be there quite like we thought.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe it's going to be a two headed race in that division.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're Carolina, what are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to keep going back to buy it and I think it's because Carolina is played some really good football over the last year and a half And it just feels like they figured out a lot of things on offense They were fantastic last week when they played the Lions Teneromic Bill and was the NFC player of the week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're should be getting jailed and coker back I think they could use some offense of lions help the lost both.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're starting guards to injuries Their tackles have also been banged up as a year goes on and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a team for whatever reason matches up really well against some of the top teams in the NFC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe, you know, I think they're, they're the favorites right now to win that division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Panthers, especially with the development of Bryce Young, should absolutely be buying right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree with you 100% they're the eighth team overall in EPA offense right now and in with an average defense that's going to be enough and probably enough to get your own division and so and they nearly made a splash last year magazine and they were so close to beating the rams and who knows what could potentially happen after that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But do you know where Bryce Young ranks among quarterbacks who have played at least 250 snaps, which most quarterbacks who have played at least four games, ranks, do you know where he ranks and people have played?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You, the fact that you're asking this question, now I'm going to give it a little bump, and I haven't looked at it this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say he's third, number one, number one, and the NFL in,
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[SPEAKER_01]: for quarterbacks and he's been he has been absolutely awesome this year and I think if you're Carolina you've got this quarterback on a cheap deal right now you might as well go for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 100% Panthers right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you're a Panthers fan, you got a lot to be excited about, definitely the future of that offense as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the Atlanta Falcons now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll stick right with the NFC South.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In another team that's, again, in these last few weeks, even though they're coming off of the disappointing Ravens loss,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've given fans a lot to be excited about in terms of their offensive ceiling here where they can put up 40 points in the game at times like Michael Panics, the difference between him and Cooper Russia we saw at the beginning of season massive massive can he stand the field though and can he keep them momentum going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are the big questions when it comes to him, but you've got a bona fide star in Bijon Robbins, and maybe the best overall skill player in the NFL this year, you've got Drake London who is a superstar, whiter seeer that you can just pepper with targets, and it's working.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that as long as their defense doesn't bottom out, and I think that defense has done a pretty respectable job, especially considering the loss of their past rush duo this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that they've kind of weathered the storm without that,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, Marcus, I got to go the same direction here because that division is so wide open still and they're very much in the hunt, I'm going to say that they should probably be buyers as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the only caveat that I would have is I think I would be wanting to sell someone like Kyle Pizz for more defensive help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kyle Pizz is not fair and you're not getting your use out of him with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You sign into a big contract this offseason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's clearly not working.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's hardly playing any steps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But frankly, they don't really need it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the way that they're playing with, you know, running the ball really well, Drake Lund is just getting a million targets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zachary at Ranch is actually becoming more involved in this offense as an underneath receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if you could flip Kyle Pitz for some defensive help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's a past rusher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's an additional cornerback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've had a lot of cornerback injuries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the Falcon should be sellers, but I think Kyle Pitz is a player that
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would not be shocked if they moved out from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I kind of like that philosophy that offense is going to be good, whether he's there or not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you can make do without the presence of pits because of the other stars you have on the team, obviously barring injuries that can take place during the season, but I kind of like the idea of maybe flipping him, try to get a little bit more help on defense, because the offense, I think is very explosive, whether pits is playing or not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the Minnesota Vikings, but before we do that, from the highs, the
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Marcus Vikings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Five and no, how does this happen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're coaching staff, just tremendous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the best pairing of an offensive mind in Kevin O'Connell, a defensive mind over there and now I'm blanking on the name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why am I blanking on the prime floor as in Kevin O'Connell?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's done just a tremendous job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The high blitz rate, just the Amoeba blitz defense and not knowing where guys are coming from, and teams have struggled with it like crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, I mean, they have to be buyers, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you are buyers, which believe that you're gonna agree with me on this, who do you go after?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What position I should say do you go after before the deadline?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they should be biased.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen to the amount of points that they have allowed in their last 10 games dating back to last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 13 points against the Giants, 10 points against the Lions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was a game that Detroit needed to win to make the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three points against the Packers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The 22 points against the Packers this year, three points to the Bears, 16 to the Buccaneers, 10 to the Dolphins, 13 to the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know we have questions about this offense, but this defense is now proven
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they need to be buyers, but I don't really think they need to go out and make some kind of big splash move right now because
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[SPEAKER_01]: On offense, they've the Kyler Marie has only played a couple of games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He played much better this week against the Saints, Justin Jefferson is missed time with an injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's back, Jordan Addison missed time this week with an injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He should be back relatively soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they could make a couple of moves like on the edges a little bit, but I don't think they need to send away a first from pick for a player because I already think this is a team that's going to win 11 or 12 games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe they shouldn't do anything of that magnitude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to think of the roster in my head, like offensive linemen, anywhere in any direction that they could go to be like, all right, we wanna capitalize on this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We wanna keep this, we wanna be seven to no eight and no, we wanna win our division, which, obviously, on track to do with this point in time, right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, is it okay, let me ask you this, Mark, is it okay for a team like the Vikings to just kind of stick with their guns and stay neutral?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so not to try to do anything else to capitalize on this window here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, because I don't think there's one big swing out there that's going to make them dramatically better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if they wanted to add a little bit more depth like their defensive background totally get it, but I don't think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think we're at a point where they have to feel like they are all in on this roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they certainly shouldn't be selling either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to me, they're just a hold and let's see what the next two or three weeks bring and if they feel like they need to go out and get a piece, go out and do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're playing so well on defense right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we just stand pat and maybe that's the right course of action for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's not broke, don't fix it mentality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about a team right there in the NFC North with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the Green Bay Packers who are suddenly starting to heat up here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had questions about this team still do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there are talent gaps in this roster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that the offensive line has some issues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously getting micoparsons back hopefully really soon here is going to help and hopefully in an enormous way for the Packers because that defense I just don't know what to think of that defense, but offensively I think that they have the ability to put up points your Packers fan or which way are you rooting right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you want this to go in Marcus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of feel like the Packers are the team works like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're too far in this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we're invested.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We made the Micah Parsons trade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of reminds me of you go back to the episode of the office.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think back in like season two, where Michael Scott puts the down payment on his apartment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like if you back out now, you're gonna lose $7,000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, I really like this decision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So is that where the packers are right now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you can't go back the other way after some of the things you did last off to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: probably not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I will say about Green Bay is they're three and two right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They play the Cowboys this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are, well, they are a one point favorite at home against the Cowboys, which I think kind of tells us what the betting markets think of this team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Green Bay will win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they'll probably get to nine or so wins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think this is a team that can legitimately compete for a Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know if they're a playoff team right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They think they're in third or fourth place in their own division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, we know that we're going to get three playoff teams from the NFC West.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll probably get two from the NFC North, and maybe it's the Vikings and the Bears, or the Vikings and the Lions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure that it's going to be the Packers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the issue for Green Bay is we don't know when Micah Parsons is going to come back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is still not practicing and we are now going into week six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've already lost guys like Edger and Cooper and J.V.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on Hardgrave for the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have a ton of guys that they could trade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what makes this a little bit hard, but I don't think Green Bay
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they should be giving up additional draft picks and future years to try to set save the season because I've not not sure it's worth saving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of where I am as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even with all the moves that you made, the trade that cost you a ton for Micah Parsons last year, I don't know if you should say, all right, we should just keep going and going and going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At some point you have to kind of bite the bullet and say, what this is, we're going to see what we can do with what we have right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are roster gaps, there are certainly depth issues on that team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you look at the Packers right now in terms of both offense and defensive EPA, they are a very mid-linked team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're almost identical in offensive and defensive EPA as the New York jets and the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two teams that are, again, very average football teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not sure if going out and making one move,
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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of likely to before try to get one star player but sacrifice a lot of draft capital is the right course of action if they can't make it work this year kind of just hang on to maybe what you have and start building the foundation then that roster back up again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got one more here, Marks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the Indianapolis Colts who I,
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[SPEAKER_00]: ran into some unfortunate circumstances this past week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're coming back from an international game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Steelers were waiting for them at home with 10 days to prepare.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they did not look very good in this game, Daniel Jones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Huge concerns about him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he kind of bounce back performance, honestly compared to what he has been doing this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he looks like the Daniel Jones of the Giants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't look like the Daniel Jones that we saw in the first half of the season last year who looked really encouraging.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're just giving up too much defensively, they don't have really a go-to option in the passing aim with Alec Pierce Outleg.
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[SPEAKER_00]: everything falls on like Jonathan Taylor's shoulders in the offensive line, but what do you do if you're the cults right now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this a team that's like, we gave it a shot last year, we tried, but then the whole situation with Chris Ballard now, and you know that that organization wants to win, can they go back the other way?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are we going to get a seller here finally?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they should be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this is the one team that I think is a clear
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They can run the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they get out Pierce back in the offense finally starts to click but the defense is awful and they don't have a first on pick next year because the sauce gardener trade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I would be looking to maybe dump some players who I don't know of their part of the long-term future, and I think they have a player that would really too, that would gain a lot of interest on the open market.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We already mentioned one in the atulatu.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The other one is the force Buckner, who almost retired this off season because of a net injury, he's 32 years old, who'll turn 33 here this off season, but I think for a team like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: before the Niners who drafted a for spockner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That could be the guy that you put on your defense next to OCD.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so did you Zua?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he helps you win a Super Bowl this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that cost the 49ers a second or third round pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think this cult's team has really any shot of making the playoffs or being a contender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they do have some veterans that I think would be interesting to be other teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they have a couple really valuable trade chips and he's the one that I would consider as well that to put on the block and say, okay, maybe this will get us some capital to go up in go take a swing at a quarterback or go get another true wide receiver one or something along that lines because they're not very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: near the bottom of the league in terms of record right now, I still think they're a better football team than what the Colts are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wouldn't be shocked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think the Colts played two weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Colts barely won that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was 17 to 16.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think you're Chris Ballard and the Colts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you look at the scene and you've tried to figure out, hey, do we have a realistic shot this year?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, let's let's move on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Chris Valwich really, this is kind of his last shot, and which makes it really, really hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't be surprised if he goes the other way, and that's that's sometimes the problem when you have a lame.gm and a lame.cat coach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a bad situation to be in for the team, the front office, just a fan in general because you can look at them and we're not not even have to believe that the culture going to be contenders this year, but we'll see which way they ultimately go here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No hell of shit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be Jack, I have fan-sided here with NFL expert Marcus Mosher week five around the NFL wrapped up Marcus and as of this recording we are exactly a month away from the NFL trade deadline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be coming up on us pretty fast here now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We just saw
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[SPEAKER_00]: a big trade around the NFL Marvin Harris and Junior got sent to the Houston Texans who could be next what could be happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to talk specific players today, but what we are going to talk mark is is which teams could be or should be buyers or sellers at the NFL trade deadline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're not going to go with the obvious today like the Miami dolphins who are clearly not playing for this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to pick some teams kind of in the middle of the pack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and what direction should they choose because we know this league is about windows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about opening a window at the right time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do these teams actually have a chance to open a window or should they be sellers at the deadline?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Should be fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also think the trade deadlines are month away, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think you're going to see a lot more trades like in the next week or so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason why is you just get these players a lot longer and I think rather than waiting until November to see how you fit in the system, I think that's why you're seeing teams like the Cowboys who went out and traded for Joey Porter Jr. in the Texans who traded for Marvin here as a junior as you mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to get these guys in the building right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that way they can start making a run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there's several teams in this list or they're kind of on the fringes that I could see making some trades to try to get better right now so that you can maybe potentially go on that late season run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you already know your direction, you might as well not delay until the last possible second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for some of these teams, we'll see if they decide to go one direction or the other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's start here with the New York giants and just what a wonky season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Three one and one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got very fortunate with the just the debacle at the end of that game against the commanders there where they couldn't get the fuel off probably should have lost in the end there, but they're sitting a top they're division.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They help but they also got James Winston as their quarterback in Jackson Darts out for the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This one's really hard for me because.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that, obviously, they got a veteran head coach in John Harbour, they want to win now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what are their realistic chances when you don't have your starting franchise quarterback and you're making do with a one of the most high variance quarterbacks in the league?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Either way, Marcus, I mean, that NFC East is truly up for grabs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that the giant should still be buyers even with their backup quarterback?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I've mixed feelings in this one because that part of me feels like when you watch the the Rams the 49ers in the seahawksus weekend and you just know that like if if the giants were to win the division Pretty good odds that you're gonna be facing one of those teams in round one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because two of them are gonna be wild card teams I don't like their chances.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They really they blew this game multiple different times They were down by 14 points in the second half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had to you know mount that big comeback and if the commanders just
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[SPEAKER_01]: figured out that late game situation that, you know, they're three and two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also could see the giants making a trade not just for this year, but also for like a future year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is like something that like, I'm going to use the Cowboys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Cowboys did last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They traded for Quinn and Williams at the deadline, not because of what he was going to do to help them in 2025, but what they thought he could help do in like 2026 in beyond.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So could like the giants go out and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me give you a name, Denzel War, again, don't get too hung up on the name, but Denzel War, a corner bed that could be, a guy that can help them this year and beyond when you get Jackson Dar, I do think that makes some sense, and with the NFC East being this bad, I would not be opposed to the giant's making a small trade for a player to help them be a little bit more competent now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's kind of where I am with them as well and do don't do anything that's going to hurt the future of your team because I still think the future is going to be down the line it's not right now like we said we could win the division right now, what they are clearly behind those top NFC teams anything can happen in the postseason, but I kind of I just it's not a good situation to be in, but if you are to make a move maybe that type one that can help you maybe secure that division at least have a chance for your division now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but also gives you a two or three year window that you can open up there with them as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk Cleveland Browns here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Another team that surprisingly entering week six here has a winning record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if anybody would have predicted that Marcus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, the whole AFC North has a winning record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: at the moment right now will it stay that way though and this is what we have to look at the Baltimore Ravens are foreign one they just want to game without Lamar Jackson you could argue maybe they should have lost that game but they're foreign one without Lamar Jackson the bangles are three and two the Steelers are three and two do the Browns really have a chance here should they be buyers or sellers I know that Todd Munkin is an older head coach though of a first time head coach
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing surprisingly well, but which direction should this team go right now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's for the same reasons I feel about the giants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not because I think they're going to be a contender this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you look at their offense, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got a lot of really good young players, Quinshawn Judkins, Casey Conception, Denzel Boss and looks like he's going to be a superstar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Harold Fannon's a really good young, young, tight end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've solved their offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see them continue to upgrade their defense and find some guys that can fit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got all these picks and I'm sure they're going to use these picks on a quarter back next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you can fill in some of the needs on defense, it just takes some things off your checklist next off season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like could they go out and get a better edge russia to pair with Jared verse?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that makes some sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like Isaiah McWire, but they need some more juice off the edge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could use another linebacker, especially with Carson Swester,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The bronze have got a lot of assets and I think it's okay if they try to go out there and be a little bit more competitive that I think they're a fun team right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they really are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've got a lot of young talent marks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My favorite type of trade for the Browns if they were to pull one off would be Something along the lines of getting a player who has still a year or two left on that rookie deal because I think Again, Browns can try to maximize that window this year and keep this momentum going, but also they're just a really young roster in general.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they can kind of crack this window wide open for three, four, five years, they have the chance to do so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously, we got to see what the long-term quarterback situation looks like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they've got the foundation of the roster kind of in place now and at a lot of key positions and you meet receivers, one that you just mentioned, guys that are going to be on rookie deals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that they probably should be buyers considering how tight this division is and maybe go after a guy that kind of fits in alliance with that window coming up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I give you a name again?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't want to get hung up too much in names, but I'm looking at a guy like Leia to Latu, who is with the culture right now, who I think is a good starting address, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's a superstar, but he's a younger player on a team, which we'll talk about the culture a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm blanking out of this name right now, the defense of tackles that they have right now, I think they could be a really good defensive line and keeps you in a lot of games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will see what they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can see them being aggressive considering how hot they started the season here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about my Pittsburgh Steelers here for a moment sitting at three and two coming off of win over the Colts and they they've obviously had the the easy half of their schedule isn't placed right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see how they do in the second half of the season after their week nine by.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, this team,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want to have their feet in both doorways because their offseason moves said let's go out and bring back a 42 year old quarterback and trade for Michael Pittman, which we didn't know how much she had left in the tank and apparently it's not a lot even when he's healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, it's like they made 10 draft picks and almost all of them are kind of plays for the future where it's guys that are raw or not really contributing to the team a whole lot right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Their direction, though, I think at the end of the day, is we want to win playoff games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we want to avoid a 10-year drought without a playoff win, Rodgers turns 43 in December.
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[SPEAKER_00]: TJ Watt just had his birthday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's 32 years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jalen Ramsey, 32 years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this team, they've had an aging out roster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got to try to do something right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know how well their chances are of actually competing in the postseason, but obviously, I think that if they were to do anything, they're going to be buyers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, Malik Collins was the name I was trying to figure out could not get for the Browns, but yeah, I agree with the Steelers, but I think there's a couple spots that you could potentially do I think the most obvious is at corner back and I know they just traded away Joey Porter Jr.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So why not just keep that's a contract thing, but do I think they could go out there and find a starting caliber corner back that's fairly cheap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do and I don't think it would cost them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: an arm in a leg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the other spot is obviously wide receiver with all of the injuries they have to micropitmen, wills and Ben Scuronic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the idea is
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[SPEAKER_01]: you go out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You spend a premium draft pick on a receiver that not just helps this year, but helps in the upcoming years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is those guys are really hard to find.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even guys that aren't producing like Marvin Harris and Junior, they go for second-round picks, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's going to be the issue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when Pittsburgh be willing to give up a second-round pick for a
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[SPEAKER_01]: relatively unknown or would they be more likely to go out and try to trade something for somebody like Terry McClearn who is I think 31 years old who's on a Washington team that's probably not going anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see but I think those are the two positions that Pittsburgh could go after.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah absolutely Roman Wilson's injured for the next several weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've hit me on IR.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I created no separation in me and coverage anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've really year-over-lying on
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[SPEAKER_00]: the guy got my eye on right now and I don't know if they would be willing to sell be even as an old and five foot ball team right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lad McConkey, I think that if you can it rid him of that situation, but they only have so many assets anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of their, well, three more assets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you another player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You, you tell me if you do this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would, if you're, the Steelers, would you give up, let's say a second and a fourth for Roma do and say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's intriguing at least, yeah, that's intriguing at least.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that his career's been a little bit up and down so far, but I mean, I think that they would certainly consider that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They would certainly consider that considering their situation and trying to, again, snap that playoff drought.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will see, and we may be able to dive into more player specific trade talk later on here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go to the Carolina Panthers now, though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a team that, again, you talk about a division that is very much up for grabs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the NFC South.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What should they do here?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Should they do anything in this division?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, the Falcons looked like they were heating up a little bit there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How did she anticipate the ravens?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That could have changed things up a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bucks bad football team this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That the saints, I don't know if they're going to be there quite like we thought.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe it's going to be a two headed race in that division.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're Carolina, what are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to keep going back to buy it and I think it's because Carolina is played some really good football over the last year and a half And it just feels like they figured out a lot of things on offense They were fantastic last week when they played the Lions Teneromic Bill and was the NFC player of the week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're should be getting jailed and coker back I think they could use some offense of lions help the lost both.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're starting guards to injuries Their tackles have also been banged up as a year goes on and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a team for whatever reason matches up really well against some of the top teams in the NFC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe, you know, I think they're, they're the favorites right now to win that division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Panthers, especially with the development of Bryce Young, should absolutely be buying right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree with you 100% they're the eighth team overall in EPA offense right now and in with an average defense that's going to be enough and probably enough to get your own division and so and they nearly made a splash last year magazine and they were so close to beating the rams and who knows what could potentially happen after that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But do you know where Bryce Young ranks among quarterbacks who have played at least 250 snaps, which most quarterbacks who have played at least four games, ranks, do you know where he ranks and people have played?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You, the fact that you're asking this question, now I'm going to give it a little bump, and I haven't looked at it this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say he's third, number one, number one, and the NFL in,
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[SPEAKER_01]: for quarterbacks and he's been he has been absolutely awesome this year and I think if you're Carolina you've got this quarterback on a cheap deal right now you might as well go for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 100% Panthers right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you're a Panthers fan, you got a lot to be excited about, definitely the future of that offense as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the Atlanta Falcons now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll stick right with the NFC South.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In another team that's, again, in these last few weeks, even though they're coming off of the disappointing Ravens loss,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've given fans a lot to be excited about in terms of their offensive ceiling here where they can put up 40 points in the game at times like Michael Panics, the difference between him and Cooper Russia we saw at the beginning of season massive massive can he stand the field though and can he keep them momentum going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are the big questions when it comes to him, but you've got a bona fide star in Bijon Robbins, and maybe the best overall skill player in the NFL this year, you've got Drake London who is a superstar, whiter seeer that you can just pepper with targets, and it's working.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that as long as their defense doesn't bottom out, and I think that defense has done a pretty respectable job, especially considering the loss of their past rush duo this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that they've kind of weathered the storm without that,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, Marcus, I got to go the same direction here because that division is so wide open still and they're very much in the hunt, I'm going to say that they should probably be buyers as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the only caveat that I would have is I think I would be wanting to sell someone like Kyle Pizz for more defensive help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kyle Pizz is not fair and you're not getting your use out of him with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You sign into a big contract this offseason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's clearly not working.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's hardly playing any steps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But frankly, they don't really need it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the way that they're playing with, you know, running the ball really well, Drake Lund is just getting a million targets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zachary at Ranch is actually becoming more involved in this offense as an underneath receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if you could flip Kyle Pitz for some defensive help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's a past rusher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's an additional cornerback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've had a lot of cornerback injuries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the Falcon should be sellers, but I think Kyle Pitz is a player that
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would not be shocked if they moved out from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I kind of like that philosophy that offense is going to be good, whether he's there or not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you can make do without the presence of pits because of the other stars you have on the team, obviously barring injuries that can take place during the season, but I kind of like the idea of maybe flipping him, try to get a little bit more help on defense, because the offense, I think is very explosive, whether pits is playing or not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the Minnesota Vikings, but before we do that, from the highs, the
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Marcus Vikings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Five and no, how does this happen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're coaching staff, just tremendous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the best pairing of an offensive mind in Kevin O'Connell, a defensive mind over there and now I'm blanking on the name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why am I blanking on the prime floor as in Kevin O'Connell?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's done just a tremendous job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The high blitz rate, just the Amoeba blitz defense and not knowing where guys are coming from, and teams have struggled with it like crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, I mean, they have to be buyers, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you are buyers, which believe that you're gonna agree with me on this, who do you go after?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What position I should say do you go after before the deadline?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they should be biased.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen to the amount of points that they have allowed in their last 10 games dating back to last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 13 points against the Giants, 10 points against the Lions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was a game that Detroit needed to win to make the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three points against the Packers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The 22 points against the Packers this year, three points to the Bears, 16 to the Buccaneers, 10 to the Dolphins, 13 to the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know we have questions about this offense, but this defense is now proven
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they need to be buyers, but I don't really think they need to go out and make some kind of big splash move right now because
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[SPEAKER_01]: On offense, they've the Kyler Marie has only played a couple of games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He played much better this week against the Saints, Justin Jefferson is missed time with an injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's back, Jordan Addison missed time this week with an injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He should be back relatively soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they could make a couple of moves like on the edges a little bit, but I don't think they need to send away a first from pick for a player because I already think this is a team that's going to win 11 or 12 games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe they shouldn't do anything of that magnitude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to think of the roster in my head, like offensive linemen, anywhere in any direction that they could go to be like, all right, we wanna capitalize on this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We wanna keep this, we wanna be seven to no eight and no, we wanna win our division, which, obviously, on track to do with this point in time, right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, is it okay, let me ask you this, Mark, is it okay for a team like the Vikings to just kind of stick with their guns and stay neutral?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so not to try to do anything else to capitalize on this window here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, because I don't think there's one big swing out there that's going to make them dramatically better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if they wanted to add a little bit more depth like their defensive background totally get it, but I don't think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think we're at a point where they have to feel like they are all in on this roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they certainly shouldn't be selling either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to me, they're just a hold and let's see what the next two or three weeks bring and if they feel like they need to go out and get a piece, go out and do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're playing so well on defense right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we just stand pat and maybe that's the right course of action for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's not broke, don't fix it mentality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about a team right there in the NFC North with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the Green Bay Packers who are suddenly starting to heat up here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had questions about this team still do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there are talent gaps in this roster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that the offensive line has some issues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously getting micoparsons back hopefully really soon here is going to help and hopefully in an enormous way for the Packers because that defense I just don't know what to think of that defense, but offensively I think that they have the ability to put up points your Packers fan or which way are you rooting right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you want this to go in Marcus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of feel like the Packers are the team works like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're too far in this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we're invested.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We made the Micah Parsons trade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of reminds me of you go back to the episode of the office.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think back in like season two, where Michael Scott puts the down payment on his apartment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like if you back out now, you're gonna lose $7,000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, I really like this decision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So is that where the packers are right now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you can't go back the other way after some of the things you did last off to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: probably not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I will say about Green Bay is they're three and two right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They play the Cowboys this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are, well, they are a one point favorite at home against the Cowboys, which I think kind of tells us what the betting markets think of this team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Green Bay will win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they'll probably get to nine or so wins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think this is a team that can legitimately compete for a Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know if they're a playoff team right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They think they're in third or fourth place in their own division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, we know that we're going to get three playoff teams from the NFC West.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll probably get two from the NFC North, and maybe it's the Vikings and the Bears, or the Vikings and the Lions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure that it's going to be the Packers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the issue for Green Bay is we don't know when Micah Parsons is going to come back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is still not practicing and we are now going into week six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've already lost guys like Edger and Cooper and J.V.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on Hardgrave for the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have a ton of guys that they could trade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what makes this a little bit hard, but I don't think Green Bay
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they should be giving up additional draft picks and future years to try to set save the season because I've not not sure it's worth saving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of where I am as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even with all the moves that you made, the trade that cost you a ton for Micah Parsons last year, I don't know if you should say, all right, we should just keep going and going and going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At some point you have to kind of bite the bullet and say, what this is, we're going to see what we can do with what we have right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are roster gaps, there are certainly depth issues on that team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you look at the Packers right now in terms of both offense and defensive EPA, they are a very mid-linked team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're almost identical in offensive and defensive EPA as the New York jets and the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two teams that are, again, very average football teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not sure if going out and making one move,
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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of likely to before try to get one star player but sacrifice a lot of draft capital is the right course of action if they can't make it work this year kind of just hang on to maybe what you have and start building the foundation then that roster back up again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got one more here, Marks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the Indianapolis Colts who I,
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[SPEAKER_00]: ran into some unfortunate circumstances this past week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're coming back from an international game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Steelers were waiting for them at home with 10 days to prepare.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they did not look very good in this game, Daniel Jones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Huge concerns about him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he kind of bounce back performance, honestly compared to what he has been doing this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he looks like the Daniel Jones of the Giants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't look like the Daniel Jones that we saw in the first half of the season last year who looked really encouraging.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're just giving up too much defensively, they don't have really a go-to option in the passing aim with Alec Pierce Outleg.
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[SPEAKER_00]: everything falls on like Jonathan Taylor's shoulders in the offensive line, but what do you do if you're the cults right now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this a team that's like, we gave it a shot last year, we tried, but then the whole situation with Chris Ballard now, and you know that that organization wants to win, can they go back the other way?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are we going to get a seller here finally?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they should be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this is the one team that I think is a clear
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They can run the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they get out Pierce back in the offense finally starts to click but the defense is awful and they don't have a first on pick next year because the sauce gardener trade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I would be looking to maybe dump some players who I don't know of their part of the long-term future, and I think they have a player that would really too, that would gain a lot of interest on the open market.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We already mentioned one in the atulatu.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The other one is the force Buckner, who almost retired this off season because of a net injury, he's 32 years old, who'll turn 33 here this off season, but I think for a team like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: before the Niners who drafted a for spockner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That could be the guy that you put on your defense next to OCD.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so did you Zua?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he helps you win a Super Bowl this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that cost the 49ers a second or third round pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think this cult's team has really any shot of making the playoffs or being a contender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they do have some veterans that I think would be interesting to be other teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they have a couple really valuable trade chips and he's the one that I would consider as well that to put on the block and say, okay, maybe this will get us some capital to go up in go take a swing at a quarterback or go get another true wide receiver one or something along that lines because they're not very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: near the bottom of the league in terms of record right now, I still think they're a better football team than what the Colts are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wouldn't be shocked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think the Colts played two weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Colts barely won that game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was 17 to 16.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think you're Chris Ballard and the Colts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you look at the scene and you've tried to figure out, hey, do we have a realistic shot this year?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, let's let's move on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Chris Valwich really, this is kind of his last shot, and which makes it really, really hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't be surprised if he goes the other way, and that's that's sometimes the problem when you have a lame.gm and a lame.cat coach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a bad situation to be in for the team, the front office, just a fan in general because you can look at them and we're not not even have to believe that the culture going to be contenders this year, but we'll see which way they ultimately go here.
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