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Welcome to Reinventing Professionals,
a podcast hosted by industry analyst
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Ari Kaplan, which shares ideas,
guidance, and perspectives from market
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leaders shaping the next generation
of legal and professional services.
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This is Ari Kaplan at RelFest London 2026.
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My name is Phil Saunders, and
I am the CEO of Relativity.
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And proud to be here.
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Can you share a little bit about
what Relativity is trying to convey
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at this year's RelFest London?
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Thanks, Ari, and pleasure
to chat with you once again.
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It's always enjoyable.
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The keynote covered a wide variety of
topics, but what I tried to accomplish
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was to get grounded because there's so
much taking place, not just in the legal
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tech market, but in the wider macro.
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For me , getting grounded with our
community, who rely so much on what we're
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doing and how we're thinking, that if we
could create a level of trust in what we
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agree on, we can then leap together and
tackle all the opportunities that are out
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there and manage as best we can the risks.
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That was really my focus.
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To explore those topics closely with our
audience, to build that level of baseline
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so that when Chris and his team would
talk about all the wonderful new offerings
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and surface areas and ways to engage with
Relativity, that there was a baseline
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and scaffolding that we can leap from.
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You said innovating and evolving is
not as important as transforming.
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I did say that ' because evolution
is something that naturally
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occurs over a period of time.
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Transformation is purposeful.
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It's more disruptive in a moment of time.
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When I think about Relativity over
its past 25 years, and when I think
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about Relativity today and where
we're going, simple evolution and/or
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iteration is simply not enough.
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We need to be able to look at what's
taking place and understand, is
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iteration going to get us there, or
do we have to stop and positively
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disrupt how we're doing work?
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When we look at Relativity in our
platform, we could have continued to just
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bolt on cool AI things or decide we're
gonna completely transform and disrupt the
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core and make an end-to-end AI platform.
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My name is Chris Brown, and I'm the
chief product officer at Relativity.
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You just announced the
acquisition of Gavel.
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Congratulations.
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How does that improve
the Relativity ecosystem?
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We were really excited about
this acquisition at Gavel, and
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it's a quick and long view of
where we see the business going.
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The guiding strategy the last
couple years is meeting legal
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practitioners where they are.
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They, of course, are inside RelativityOne,
but they are now starting to engage
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in multiple surfaces as well, and
one of them is Microsoft Word.
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When you think about all the setup we
did on legal data intelligence use cases
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and the work you do to organize data,
discover the truth, and act on it, we
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often think about examining trigger
data and evidence, but if you're deep
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inside our platform, you know we're also
generating a lot of work product so over
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time, that work product is becoming quite
substantial, particularly our products
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like aiR for Case Strategy and aiR Assist.
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They're now allowing lawyers in the
platform to pull together deposition
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outlines, do witness summaries,
to a bunch of other things that
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ultimately get exported to Word.
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We really wanted to continue the
experience to the lawyers, not exporting,
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but opening in Word, and inside of that
Word experience, be able to ask questions
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still of the data to refine those outlines
or those documents or those references,
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redline with potentially their boss
heading into that deposition specifically,
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and then have those things synced back.
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Over time, at our scale, there's just
so many work products being built.
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We wanted to extend that system of action.
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That's number one why we're excited
about Gavel and a longer term
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vision, they're also a great team.
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The way they built a very small
budding business, product-led growth,
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earning one lawyer at a time into
the platform really excited us,
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and they're technically extremely
sharp, so they're just a great fit.
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In your keynote discussion, you talked
about integrations and the success of aiR.
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Relativity became successful because
it was able to create a way for
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people to build on it, embrace
it, and use it in their own way.
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How is this new era
continuing on that vision?
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What we're seeing in the market is that
aiR is basically the new way to solve
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most use cases in incredible ways.
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One of the themes that really go back to
Andrew Sieja is this theme of openness,
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and this notion the platform itself
has to be able to be tapped into by the
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practitioners with their own expertise
and extend it, whether that's through
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coding, knowledge sharing, through
anything else they bring to bear.
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This week we announced custom analyses
for aiR, and that was chiefly one of
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the motions to extend the platform
and allow any practitioner to bring in
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their expertise and get results in a
way that's scaled through Relativity.
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A lot of what we do in aiR is unblock
adoption of different parts of the
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platform, unleashing the full community
of practitioners is a major milestone.
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And today I showed a preview of where this
is going for practitioners and lawyers.
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You could have an advanced
practitioner build a custom analysis.
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Soon they'll be able to publish that
skill for other people to participate
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and use later in the platform.
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It's also a way of harvesting
their capabilities and offering
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it to more folks on their team.
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My name is Adam Weiss.
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I'm the chief administrative officer
and chief legal officer of Relativity.
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The concept of governance, of a
shifting regulatory environment
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came up in several presentations.
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You're the chief legal
officer of the company.
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How do you see a differentiation in
the way Relativity is used in Europe
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versus in the US or even in Australia?
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The beauty of what we do is there
is differentiation, and we're able
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to accommodate that differentiation
by geography, by jurisdiction, but
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there's also a lot of similarities,
and whether you come to a session at
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RelFest London or RelFest Sydney or
RelFest Chicago, a lot of the topics,
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a lot of the speakers, a lot of the
information is going to be very similar.
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While laws do vary from jurisdiction
to jurisdiction, Relativity as the AI
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platform for legal data intelligence
is able to accommodate the whole range
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of matters that one might experience or
deal with in a particular jurisdiction.
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Particularly this market in
London, UK, and EMEA, governance
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and defensibility really matters.
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It's been part of the
platform since the onset.
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What we're seeing is with people
bringing more AI to use, they want
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it to be transparent, auditable,
validated and defensible.
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They understand that at different
parts in managing legal matters,
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that's essential to delivering
the results and getting the ROI.
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From a product perspective, we're
building governance, audit trails, the
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ways you validate into the platform.
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It's something we'll continue to
invest in and the market demands.
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I'm Georgia Foster.
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The managing director and the vice
president of sales for international.
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That encompasses EMEA and APAC region,
so bringing all the goodness from the
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US out to the international markets.
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What was your objective for
this year's RelFest London?
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Every year the objective is to
bring the community together at all
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different levels and types of work,
and certainly we see that again today.
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We've exceeded capacity in most rooms,
and there were 70 people standing outside
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the keynote, which was phenomenal.
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Second was making sure that those
that are starting to look at what AI
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works best for them and correctly,
that they're understanding, unpacking,
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and alleviating some of the noise
that exists today in terms of how to
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run defensible workflows in a robust
system and how they do it correctly.
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The objective is as it always is to
celebrate our customers, to recognize
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them, to help them see what's coming down
the pike, to hear from them, and to share
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best practices as we all rise together.
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That's really what we do at Fest, whether
it's in Chicago, London, or in Sydney.
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We cannot ignore the elephant in
the room, which is AI, and the
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pace of innovation and change.
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Our customers and our
partners are very excited.
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There's probably a little
bit of anxiety as well.
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But everybody is leaning into this
change, and I think well-prepared.
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We're on this journey together, and
the focus on AI, and certainly our AI
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platform for legal data intelligence,
is more acute than it's ever been.
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Have you achieved your objective
for this year's Rel Fest?
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We used to have major announcements
on the stage at Chicago Fest, and we
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can't wait for October anymore because
the innovation's coming out so fast.
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For Fest London to be announcing such
major innovation and products to come, and
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just looking around at all the familiar
faces and excellent people that make
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this community, really happy with it.
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David Horrigan, Discovery Counsel and
Legal Education Director at Relativity.
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You hosted several panels
at RelFest London this year.
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What were some of the key takeaways
from the perspectives that were shared?
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We did one with the International Legal
Technology Association, where we did a
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roundup of various AI data law issues, and
today we had the research data session,
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and we discussed some of the research data
we're doing, including some of the data
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that you and I have done over the years.
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One of the big issues was whether
or not to disclose your use of
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any type of AI, and the data are
showing that up to a third are not.
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But, the audience here in the
United Kingdom was definitely
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full disclosure, probably because
there is guidance here in the UK.
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What's the hope for what people will
take from RelFest London when they
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leave and go back to their teams?
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Usable action that you can take, whether
it's from case law, the practice guidance,
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the technical exhibits, the vendors that
you see here, it's something you can
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take back and use on your job tomorrow.
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If we can do that, we've done our job.
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This market is particularly unique.
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It's not just the UK, even
though the event is here.
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There are countries all across EMEA that
we work with that are grappling with
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different policy changes and requirements
and regulations, and coming together
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and trying to work through some of that
in addition with the technology is key.
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Kristin Traylor, Senior
Director, AI Transformation and
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Law Firm Strategy, Relativity
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Great panel at RelFest London.
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What was the focus for that discussion?
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To help the industry understand
that we're way past pilots.
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We're at the point where we can
start to standardize on how we're
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using generative AI in review, in
disclosure, in investigations, helping
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people understand that there are
ways to validate and understand what
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the technology is doing, how it's
working, and to use it in live matters.
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What's different about Rel Fest
London versus Rel Fest Sydney or the
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traditional Relativity Fest in Chicago?
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I see it as an opportunity
for rolling thunder.
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Almost like if you compare it to
the old way of development in a
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waterfall method versus a very clear
AI native, agentic, agile manner.
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These are stories that we are rolling
out, and we began in Australia
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with the beginning of the year
talking about where we're going.
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But it was really the first chapter
of a couple of chapters to follow
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about the further transformation that
we're making inside our business.
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Chris and his team, in the next week
and over the past 30 days, have released
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three innovation offerings right inside
RelOne that weren't there at Fest Sydney.
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That's an example of this chapter after
chapter showing that innovation at speed.
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What I find fascinating with our employee
base throughout the world, is there is
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a common bond that binds relativians,
no matter their age, country, first
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language, religion, or culture, and that
is our commitment to organizing data,
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discovering the truth, and acting on
it, and by doing so, pursuing justice.
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That is shared by all relativians.
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Similarly, that's shared by our customers,
no matter where they're located.
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So their needs may vary based on how
big they are, whether they're a law
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firm or a corporation or a governmental
entity or a legal service provider.
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But there are also a lot of
the same shared challenges,
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no matter where they are.
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One of the things I love most
about RelFest is getting that
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commonality, that similar spirit.
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No matter where one is in the world,
we're all doing the same important work.
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Did you anticipate last year that
you'd be having these conversations
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this year, and what do you think
we'll be talking about next year?
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There are no crystal balls
to ponder upon or to look at.
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A year ago, if you would have asked
me we'd be this far accelerated as a
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market in terms of adoption of AI, I
probably would have questioned that.
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If I could go back in time, I'd
say there'd be more testing.
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What we have acknowledged is
that we're way beyond testing.
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There's full up deployment of a variety
of tools, which is really wonderful
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and candidly daunting at the same time.
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If we did our job right in the keynote,
it was this balancing of opportunity
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and risk in the world we live in.
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We want to enable our community with
the best tech and the best AI in the
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form of aiR for our clients in a very
trusted, disciplined environment.
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We're very thoughtful about the governance
required to do that and it's that balance.
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In the keynote, I called
it the readiness gap.
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Part of the power of the AI platform
for legal data intelligence is to
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contain risk so our customers can
take advantage of the opportunity.
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This is Ari Kaplan at RelFest London
2026, speaking with Phil Saunders,
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Chris Brown , Adam Weiss, Kristin
Traylor, Georgia Foster David Horrigan.
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Chris Phil thank you thank you very much
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Adam, what a privilege.
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Thank you so much.
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Welcome to Reinventing Professionals,
a podcast hosted by industry analyst
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Ari Kaplan, which shares ideas,
guidance, and perspectives from market
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leaders shaping the next generation
of legal and professional services.
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This is Ari Kaplan at RelFest London 2026.
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My name is Phil Saunders, and
I am the CEO of Relativity.
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And proud to be here.
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Can you share a little bit about
what Relativity is trying to convey
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at this year's RelFest London?
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Thanks, Ari, and pleasure
to chat with you once again.
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It's always enjoyable.
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The keynote covered a wide variety of
topics, but what I tried to accomplish
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was to get grounded because there's so
much taking place, not just in the legal
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tech market, but in the wider macro.
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For me , getting grounded with our
community, who rely so much on what we're
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doing and how we're thinking, that if we
could create a level of trust in what we
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agree on, we can then leap together and
tackle all the opportunities that are out
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there and manage as best we can the risks.
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That was really my focus.
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To explore those topics closely with our
audience, to build that level of baseline
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so that when Chris and his team would
talk about all the wonderful new offerings
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and surface areas and ways to engage with
Relativity, that there was a baseline
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and scaffolding that we can leap from.
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You said innovating and evolving is
not as important as transforming.
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I did say that ' because evolution
is something that naturally
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occurs over a period of time.
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Transformation is purposeful.
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It's more disruptive in a moment of time.
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When I think about Relativity over
its past 25 years, and when I think
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about Relativity today and where
we're going, simple evolution and/or
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iteration is simply not enough.
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We need to be able to look at what's
taking place and understand, is
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iteration going to get us there, or
do we have to stop and positively
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disrupt how we're doing work?
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When we look at Relativity in our
platform, we could have continued to just
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bolt on cool AI things or decide we're
gonna completely transform and disrupt the
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core and make an end-to-end AI platform.
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My name is Chris Brown, and I'm the
chief product officer at Relativity.
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You just announced the
acquisition of Gavel.
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Congratulations.
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How does that improve
the Relativity ecosystem?
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We were really excited about
this acquisition at Gavel, and
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it's a quick and long view of
where we see the business going.
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The guiding strategy the last
couple years is meeting legal
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practitioners where they are.
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They, of course, are inside RelativityOne,
but they are now starting to engage
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in multiple surfaces as well, and
one of them is Microsoft Word.
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When you think about all the setup we
did on legal data intelligence use cases
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and the work you do to organize data,
discover the truth, and act on it, we
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often think about examining trigger
data and evidence, but if you're deep
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inside our platform, you know we're also
generating a lot of work product so over
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time, that work product is becoming quite
substantial, particularly our products
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like aiR for Case Strategy and aiR Assist.
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They're now allowing lawyers in the
platform to pull together deposition
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outlines, do witness summaries,
to a bunch of other things that
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ultimately get exported to Word.
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We really wanted to continue the
experience to the lawyers, not exporting,
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but opening in Word, and inside of that
Word experience, be able to ask questions
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still of the data to refine those outlines
or those documents or those references,
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redline with potentially their boss
heading into that deposition specifically,
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and then have those things synced back.
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so many work products being built.
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about Gavel and a longer term
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vision, they're also a great team.
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earning one lawyer at a time into
the platform really excited us,
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and they're technically extremely
sharp, so they're just a great fit.
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about integrations and the success of aiR.
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Relativity became successful because
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people to build on it, embrace
it, and use it in their own way.
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aiR is basically the new way to solve
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most use cases in incredible ways.
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and this notion the platform itself
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practitioners with their own expertise
and extend it, whether that's through
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coding, knowledge sharing, through
anything else they bring to bear.
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the motions to extend the platform
and allow any practitioner to bring in
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their expertise and get results in a
way that's scaled through Relativity.
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adoption of different parts of the
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platform, unleashing the full community
of practitioners is a major milestone.
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is going for practitioners and lawyers.
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You could have an advanced
practitioner build a custom analysis.
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Soon they'll be able to publish that
skill for other people to participate
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their capabilities and offering
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it to more folks on their team.
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My name is Adam Weiss.
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I'm the chief administrative officer
and chief legal officer of Relativity.
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The concept of governance, of a
shifting regulatory environment
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came up in several presentations.
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You're the chief legal
officer of the company.
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How do you see a differentiation in
the way Relativity is used in Europe
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versus in the US or even in Australia?
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is differentiation, and we're able
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to accommodate that differentiation
by geography, by jurisdiction, but
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there's also a lot of similarities,
and whether you come to a session at
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RelFest London or RelFest Sydney or
RelFest Chicago, a lot of the topics,
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a lot of the speakers, a lot of the
information is going to be very similar.
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While laws do vary from jurisdiction
to jurisdiction, Relativity as the AI
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platform for legal data intelligence
is able to accommodate the whole range
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of matters that one might experience or
deal with in a particular jurisdiction.
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Particularly this market in
London, UK, and EMEA, governance
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and defensibility really matters.
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It's been part of the
platform since the onset.
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What we're seeing is with people
bringing more AI to use, they want
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it to be transparent, auditable,
validated and defensible.
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They understand that at different
parts in managing legal matters,
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that's essential to delivering
the results and getting the ROI.
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From a product perspective, we're
building governance, audit trails, the
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ways you validate into the platform.
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It's something we'll continue to
invest in and the market demands.
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I'm Georgia Foster.
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The managing director and the vice
president of sales for international.
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That encompasses EMEA and APAC region,
so bringing all the goodness from the
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US out to the international markets.
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What was your objective for
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Every year the objective is to
bring the community together at all
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different levels and types of work,
and certainly we see that again today.
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We've exceeded capacity in most rooms,
and there were 70 people standing outside
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the keynote, which was phenomenal.
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Second was making sure that those
that are starting to look at what AI
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works best for them and correctly,
that they're understanding, unpacking,
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and alleviating some of the noise
that exists today in terms of how to
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run defensible workflows in a robust
system and how they do it correctly.
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The objective is as it always is to
celebrate our customers, to recognize
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them, to help them see what's coming down
the pike, to hear from them, and to share
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best practices as we all rise together.
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That's really what we do at Fest, whether
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We cannot ignore the elephant in
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pace of innovation and change.
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partners are very excited.
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bit of anxiety as well.
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But everybody is leaning into this
change, and I think well-prepared.
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We're on this journey together, and
the focus on AI, and certainly our AI
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platform for legal data intelligence,
is more acute than it's ever been.
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Have you achieved your objective
for this year's Rel Fest?
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We used to have major announcements
on the stage at Chicago Fest, and we
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can't wait for October anymore because
the innovation's coming out so fast.
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For Fest London to be announcing such
major innovation and products to come, and
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just looking around at all the familiar
faces and excellent people that make
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this community, really happy with it.
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David Horrigan, Discovery Counsel and
Legal Education Director at Relativity.
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You hosted several panels
at RelFest London this year.
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What were some of the key takeaways
from the perspectives that were shared?
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We did one with the International Legal
Technology Association, where we did a
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roundup of various AI data law issues, and
today we had the research data session,
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and we discussed some of the research data
we're doing, including some of the data
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that you and I have done over the years.
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One of the big issues was whether
or not to disclose your use of
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any type of AI, and the data are
showing that up to a third are not.
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But, the audience here in the
United Kingdom was definitely
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full disclosure, probably because
there is guidance here in the UK.
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What's the hope for what people will
take from RelFest London when they
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leave and go back to their teams?
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Usable action that you can take, whether
it's from case law, the practice guidance,
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the technical exhibits, the vendors that
you see here, it's something you can
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take back and use on your job tomorrow.
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If we can do that, we've done our job.
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This market is particularly unique.
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It's not just the UK, even
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There are countries all across EMEA that
we work with that are grappling with
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different policy changes and requirements
and regulations, and coming together
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and trying to work through some of that
in addition with the technology is key.
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Kristin Traylor, Senior
Director, AI Transformation and
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Law Firm Strategy, Relativity
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Great panel at RelFest London.
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What was the focus for that discussion?
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To help the industry understand
that we're way past pilots.
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We're at the point where we can
start to standardize on how we're
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using generative AI in review, in
disclosure, in investigations, helping
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people understand that there are
ways to validate and understand what
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the technology is doing, how it's
working, and to use it in live matters.
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What's different about Rel Fest
London versus Rel Fest Sydney or the
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traditional Relativity Fest in Chicago?
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for rolling thunder.
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the old way of development in a
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waterfall method versus a very clear
AI native, agentic, agile manner.
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These are stories that we are rolling
out, and we began in Australia
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with the beginning of the year
talking about where we're going.
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But it was really the first chapter
of a couple of chapters to follow
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about the further transformation that
we're making inside our business.
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Chris and his team, in the next week
and over the past 30 days, have released
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three innovation offerings right inside
RelOne that weren't there at Fest Sydney.
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That's an example of this chapter after
chapter showing that innovation at speed.
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What I find fascinating with our employee
base throughout the world, is there is
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a common bond that binds relativians,
no matter their age, country, first
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language, religion, or culture, and that
is our commitment to organizing data,
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discovering the truth, and acting on
it, and by doing so, pursuing justice.
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That is shared by all relativians.
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Similarly, that's shared by our customers,
no matter where they're located.
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big they are, whether they're a law
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firm or a corporation or a governmental
entity or a legal service provider.
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the same shared challenges,
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no matter where they are.
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One of the things I love most
about RelFest is getting that
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commonality, that similar spirit.
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No matter where one is in the world,
we're all doing the same important work.
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Did you anticipate last year that
you'd be having these conversations
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this year, and what do you think
we'll be talking about next year?
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There are no crystal balls
to ponder upon or to look at.
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A year ago, if you would have asked
me we'd be this far accelerated as a
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market in terms of adoption of AI, I
probably would have questioned that.
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If I could go back in time, I'd
say there'd be more testing.
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What we have acknowledged is
that we're way beyond testing.
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There's full up deployment of a variety
of tools, which is really wonderful
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and candidly daunting at the same time.
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If we did our job right in the keynote,
it was this balancing of opportunity
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and risk in the world we live in.
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We want to enable our community with
the best tech and the best AI in the
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form of aiR for our clients in a very
trusted, disciplined environment.
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We're very thoughtful about the governance
required to do that and it's that balance.
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In the keynote, I called
it the readiness gap.
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Part of the power of the AI platform
for legal data intelligence is to
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contain risk so our customers can
take advantage of the opportunity.
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This is Ari Kaplan at RelFest London
2026, speaking with Phil Saunders,
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Chris Brown , Adam Weiss, Kristin
Traylor, Georgia Foster David Horrigan.
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Chris Phil thank you thank you very much
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Adam, what a privilege.
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Thank you so much.
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Thank you, Ari.
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Appreciate it.
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Kristin, thanks so much.
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Thank you.
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David, it's a privilege to collaborate.
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Great to talk to you.
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Ari, great working with you as always.
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Georgia, congratulations.
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Thank you.
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Thanks again for coming.
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Thank you for listening to the
Reinventing Professionals podcast.
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Visit reinventingprofessionals.com or
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