#107 - Crossroads

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Hey Matt!
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Hey Ken.
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Hey Matt! Hey, Ken.
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Oh, there you are.
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Here I am.
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My mic is about to fall off my station.
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Hang on.
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We're in a new studio.
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I got I uh it's a little bit bigger.
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I was I I lost you there for a second.
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I know I know.
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I was hiding underneath this this large um cabinet here.
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Actually, it's not larger, but it's I like it's it's it's more roomy.
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Roomy and it it's more organized.
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I like the new layout.
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Less shelving, less space, less room for our voices to travel through.
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True, true.
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And we we save ourselves a ton of money on um pads.
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Yes, yes, the soundproofing.
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Hopefully.
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I mean, hopefully, because if the sounds sounds bad, then I'm gonna have to get proofing.
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Oh, there we go.
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You guys know before we do right now, because we haven't listened back to what we're recording at this very but we do, we did do an audio check before we started.
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And I sounded amazing.
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I didn't know he really did.
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I sounded amazing.
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I sounded okay, you know.
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Yeah, he was sounded okay.
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I sounded amazing.
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Amazing.
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Anyway.
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Uh what's new this week?
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What's new this week?
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You know, not a whole ton that we haven't covered already.
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Um I mean it's three weeks into the future from this date.
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You saying that we're boring, we just kind of do the same thing over and over again, or is the fact that we just we've got this is the third episode we're uh recording today.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But also, we do so much stuff in our lives, we're so busy that we just don't remember what we do.
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You're right, are you?
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You know, so it's like so much stuff.
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Well, if people are out there listening to us and they uh they're bored, not from listening to us, but they're just bored, they can always go to our uh website, phantomjourneys.com, leave your experiences with us.
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We'd like to hear from you.
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Uh hear what you've encountered with ghosts, aliens, bigfoot, cryptids, anything paranormal.
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We want to hear about what happened to you.
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Absolutely.
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And yeah, maybe we will all get in touch with you.
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Come on board or come on air and talk to us, or we can uh relate your story.
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Exactly.
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Uh it's whatever you're comfortable with.
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Uh but here it is, it's now August.
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It is closer to September, but it's it's still freaking hot.
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It is still hot.
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It is currently 84 degrees in my studio.
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Oh my gosh.
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But whatever.
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Have you ever like come home from work and you're just like, I feel like a baked potato.
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Yes, usually every day.
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You're like the outside's not too bad, but the inside's just feel cooked.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yeah, coming home lately during this heat wave that's hitting everywhere.
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Everywhere, basically.
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That's called climate change.
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I mean, uh to go uh political or anything, but it's science, damn it.
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110 and we got onto my car the other day.
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Oh my gosh.
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Yeah, I I this is not right.
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I mean, I said 112 the other day, but I figured it's just because the car is baking a little bit.
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But it's still it went down to like 108 when I started driving.
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That's hot.
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Yeah, it's it's it's not even not even good.
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I think I think baked potatoes cook at about 150.
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Yeah, so we're close to it.
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Yeah.
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We're not quite baked potatoes.
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I mean, I it depends, I guess, how long you want to cook it for.
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Most people go for like 450.
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We're kind of steamed potatoes.
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But but I think you can still cook a potato long enough at 150.
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Yeah.
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We're still a little we're still a little chewy.
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Not fully soft, but you know, uh we're definitely half baked.
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And not in the fun way.
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Um so anything paranormal happened to you?
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In the last 30 minutes that we're talking about.
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Never mind, you cut that part out.
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It's all good.
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Leave it in for the crack.
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Um not really anything too crazy.
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I've just been kind of researching and kind of coming up with ideas for Halloween, because Halloween's come up really quickly.
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Oh, again.
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Because we kind of missed five months of we didn't uh we didn't get the plan enough.
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We were gonna do something special this Halloween and we wrote it down.
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Where did you write that down?
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I remember what we were doing.
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No idea.
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I think you know, I've actually been going to do Damn my short-term memory.
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What are you saying?
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Huh?
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Huh?
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What are we doing?
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Um what are we doing?
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I was going to do Poldergoist.
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Because we're we're going to do Haunted Season this season.
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Okay, okay.
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But it came back and haunted us instead.
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Yeah.
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Um, so I mean we'll still we'll still pull it on for the next until next year's so we can get enough episodes in.
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We need to do something like live or something.
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Yeah, we can we are we set up here where we can do a live broadcast?
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I would love to.
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I got myself a new internet provider and I I'm not hardwired into it.
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So I'm Wi-Fi to the tower and then wi fi to the house.
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Okay.
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Sucks.
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So we probably wouldn't be able to well but by October 31st we should be wired.
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No.
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Okay, no?
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No, no.
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No.
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Because I have to cut cut the price on my my uh internet.
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So uh okay, so we'll figure something out.
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We'll figure out we'll figure something out.
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Down geo worrier, little cotton sauce.
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Okay.
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So Anyhoos, he's 10.
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So, what did you think of last week's episode with Johnny?
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It was really good.
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I it was fun to have someone on the show that had so much knowledge about cartoons throughout the last hundred years.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, I mean that guy was um I was really I was really happy to to bring him on because you know we're always looking for show ideas and stuff, and I thought we've been gone for five months.
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What's a good way of pulling people back in, getting people interested in the phantom journeys again?
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And it's like and something that people haven't heard a million times already.
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Yeah, it's like Saturday morning cartoons, which everybody loves.
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Saturday morning cartoons, and the paranormal boom exactly that's an episode right there, and tell me one other paranormal podcast show that's had that topic.
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Don't actually go and tell us if you're on it come on if you're on a party.
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No, come on to the show, come on to our website and tell us.
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I want to know because I might want to listen to it.
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Well, I just might want to listen to it.
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Well, yeah, yeah, you maybe, maybe, maybe.
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Sorry, I have this habit of sitting back to my mic and sit forward.
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Sit up and put talk into the mic.
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Okay, yeah, so you know, it was fun to talk about uh and remember the old shows like the old Ghostbusters, not so much the the real Ghostbusters, but the Bookbusters.
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But the the one with the gorilla and the car, and just it was just fun and all the equipment they had as well was it was it was a trip down memory line.
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It really was, yeah, it really was.
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So uh shout out to Johnny Fair.
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And thank you for coming on.
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Yeah.
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Um, you can find links to his uh former podcasts uh on our website and um his work.
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And he's uh does voiceover acting and everything else.
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If you're looking for voiceover actors, get in touch with them.
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Absolutely.
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If you can't get in touch with them, get in touch with us and we'll pass you along.
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And you can also find other uh people that we have on the show their sites.
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Past uh guests are all in the link area.
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Exactly.
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Uh, who would they find there?
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They'd find someone like um, I don't know, um Ron Strickler.
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Exactly.
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Um Preston Dennett.
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That's right.
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Um Eric Goldman.
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Um who's um uh uh is it uh Pennsylvania?
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Oh the Pennsylvania Bigfoot pretty soon the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Society.
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Wasn't that in in 78?
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I think you're right.
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I think we're pretty soon.
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Yeah, go check that out on the website if you're in that uh in the Pennsylvania area.
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And then um yeah, and then if you have ideas for guests that uh you'd like to hear us uh talk to, drop a line, let us know.
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Or if you're somebody who has an experience and you would like to be on the show, or send us your story, and we'll be more than happy to read it out and share your experience.
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He likes to do uh I like sound effects.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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So um you're ready for today's episode?
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Yes.
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Ken, wait.
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Let's go to a break, and when we come back, we'll get into our episode.
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Sound good?
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I guess.
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I guess.
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Well, yes, it doesn't sound great.
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Alright, we'll be right back.
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Okay, so what's the episode today?
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Yeah, well, well, Ken, why don't you tell us what this episode is about?
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Because I thought this was your episode.
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No, it's yours episode.
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Oh crap.
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Oh god, what am I doing?
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Well, let me uh no.
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I'm we're just joking around.
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I I am prepared.
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Today's episode is called Meeting at the Crossroads.
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You know what that sounded like really quick before we get into that.
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The title or the way or the way I said it.
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The way you said it?
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No, I wasn't really listening to myself.
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It sounded like you know, uh, you know your man from As You Wish.
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Inconceivable.
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Well, I was hoping you were gonna say I sound like Brad Pitt or somebody, but I'll take the inconceivable guy.
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Inconceivable.
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Uh so we're meeting at the crossroads.
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Yes.
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And the the folklore concerning the metaphorical and metaphysical crossroads.
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Alright.
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Let's bring it.
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Bring it before you sing it.
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Well, you know what?
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He's asked that I not sing so much anymore.
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Uh so most people in their lifetimes come to a point where they come to the metaphorical crossroads.
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Do you stay in the life you know and continue as you have?
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Or do you choose to make a change and take a life-changing chance for something new?
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Uh, for most, the coming to the crossroads is just folklore.
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But to some, it resembles a time in their life where they had to make a change.
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Their current status in life makes it impossible to continue as they are due to financial difficulties, death, loss of a partner, or the feelings of utter loss.
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Or perhaps they have an unfulfilled whole in their current life.
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Coming to the crossroads generally means that when someone has had enough, and that change, whether desired or forced upon them, must be made, you arrive at the crossroads where the future path lays before you.
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To choose which direction you must now travel.
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You can go straight and continue with some things in your life changing.
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You can go right and do something completely different.
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Or you can go left and make a complete change in your life from where you will call home to the life you decided to choose for yourself.
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Or ultimately you can reverse and go back the way you came and continue your life in the way it was.
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In reverse.
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Because it actually sounds like instead of going forward, you actually take the step back and go back to where you don't change, where you don't speak, you don't uh flourish.
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Yeah.
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Very true.
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Of course, you don't know if you're gonna flourish in the other any other direction.
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Well, that is very true.
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But you are making the change.
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Yeah.
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We see this clear clearly depicted in the Tom Hanks movie Castaway.
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Chuck, Nolan, Tom tanks, at the end of the movie, we find him at the literal crossroads.
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He has survived five years alone, deserted on an island, struggling to survive.
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He is rescued and finds that he has severely outgrown his former life.
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He is no longer the person he once was.
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He has lost his former fiance and does not fit in with the life he once knew.
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Chuck drives to the crossroads, wherein where his future is wide open, and all he has to do is decide which route to choose.
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He could go back from where he came and be miserable or he can take the one of the paths in front of him.
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It isn't until a sign from the wings painted on the rear of a pickup truck that leads him to fly free from his past and venture out to make new connections and a new future for himself.
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He chose to follow the wings of an artist whose drawing of an angel wings got him through his difficult ordeal and survival on the island.
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So many of us find ourselves at the crossroads of life, where we need to make a difficult choice as to our own futures and how we should proceed through life.
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There is also a spiritual crossroads that many find themselves at without knowing that they are at the intersection of what could change their lives forever.
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Fair, fair.
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Here the crossroads in the realm of folklore and the paranormal represents a crossroads where the spiritual veil between the two worlds is the thinnest, and that many come seeking for a possible deal with the devil himself.
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Did you ever make a deal with the devil?
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No?
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No.
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What if he offered you, I don't know, candy?
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Maybe.
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Maybe?
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Depending on the candy?
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Depends on the candy, that's for sure.
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What if it's that hard candy that was in like your grandparents' uh little bowl on the coffee table?
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Probably not.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Gummy bears?
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Maybe.
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Maybe?
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Maybe.
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Okay.
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I am I am susceptible to literally gummy bears.
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Oh, you actually have a bag of gummy bears at the end.
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I swear to God, the devil wasn't here.
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I got a new uh I got a new man cave and on my new desk.
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The bottom drawer is my gummy bear drawer.
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My drawer is just a gummy bear.
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I have uh a big bag.
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And a stapler.
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That's really good.
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Because you always want to stay in your gummy bears.
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There's something else in there.
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Oh.
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The stapler.
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It's a staple of the bag when you're closed.
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Well, it's because it's got the little pinch thing at the top.
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Gotta have fresh gummy bears.
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How else are you gonna close your gummy bears?
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The stapler.
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Um uh The Devil Himself.
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This interpretation of the crossroads stories is made famous by the story of legendary bluesman and guitarist Robert Johnson.
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The story, and there's a good documentary on Netflix about Robert Johnson.
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Yeah.
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If what I tell you about Robert Johnson interests you, go to Netflix, look it up.
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For sure.
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Uh it's I think it's called Crossroads with Robert Johnson or something to that uh name, but it's really good uh documentary.
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Yeah.
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Uh the story of Robert Johnson is that he sold his soul to the devil at a Mississippi Crossroads in the 1930s in exchange for a mastery of the guitar.
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According to the myth, he met a stranger at the intersection of highways 61 and 49 in Clarksdale who tuned his guitar in Grand Jam's supernatural musical abilities.
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Uh, before Johnson met this stranger that tuned his guitar, he was an average to poor guitar player, where he was seldom given a chance to play.
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Uh the small blues clubs because he is playing was so poor that no one wanted to hear him play.
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That's really sad.
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That is sad.
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Something you really love and nobody wants to because you're so bad at it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Uh Robert Johnson disappeared from his community and no one knew where he had gone.
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He returned over a year later, and suddenly his mastery of the blues guitar was astounding.
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His playing uh rivaled those of the masters, and even the blues masters of the time had trouble performing the chords and playing that Robert Johnson could do now without effort.
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Robert became a blues legend and played to sold-out crowds and made some of the earliest blues recordings that influenced many of the blues artists and legends we know today as Muddy Waters, BB King, Buddy Guy, and gave the blues the recognizable sounds it has.
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People were amazed at the change in Robert's playing and went from poor to mediocre to a guitar master in the span of a little over a year.
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How can someone make that much of a change in their craft?
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Did he find a guitar guru that through relentless training and practice that led him to this change, or was it something more?
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Whether Robert Johnson started started the story, or the people around him, or the crowds that came to see him play, the story that became part of his lore and legend was that Robert met with the devil at the crossroads.
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He didn't do anything to lessen that story, as the rumors.
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In fact, he helped the story uh thrive because it helped uh keep the mystique and ticket sales high for his concerts.
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Before you get into that, yeah, it's interesting.
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But like, if you're gonna make a deal with the devil, I mean why do you go like, oh, I want to be the best guitarist in the world?
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What are you gonna just say like give us a million dollars?
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I'll live.
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Because there's a difference between being having a million dollars and having mastery over passion.
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Oh, yeah.
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So is it better to ask for like you know, uh a mastery over something rather than what what would you say your passion right now is?
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Writing.
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So I'd probably be a poor wrong.
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Would you rather go to make the devil deal with the devil for a million dollars and be a poor writer, or be a master writer and make a million dollars?
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Well, that's true.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But you know what would happen though?
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You'd sell your soul to be a master writer and nobody nobody's still publisher.
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Well, be a master writer that nobody gets to see.
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That would be your lifetime.
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That would be five times more than you don't you don't get to profit from it.
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Some guy named Spike that finds it in a drawer after you're dead, ends up putting it under his name, and he ends up becoming the millionaire.
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That's true.
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That's how the devil would get you.
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That's just always the devil in the details.
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Yeah.
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Oh, I like that.
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Did you just make that up?
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Uh no, but it you know it exit has existed for years.
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That was really cool how you just put it.
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I I've heard it before.
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I just how you quickly you uh brought that up.
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Well, you know it popped in there, you know.
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Like wow, I was impressed.
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I was impressed.
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No, wait, right, right.
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How you threw that in there.
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Yeah, it just popped in there.
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Yeah.
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Devil devil's in the details.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I think I think because when you really look at it, a million dollars is just monetary.
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It's just well, yeah, it's a thing.
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Yeah.
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Whereas if you have a strong passion for something and being the best at it and being famous for being the best at it, yeah, I think is far more desirable.
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Ask for a million dollars and be like, oh yeah, you can have it easy.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's still a little hard to build it.
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It's still a little hard to get to.
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I mean, our things are at least a billion these days.
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Just to just to make it through the week.
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But fucking you need a billion dollars to get to the week?
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Gas prices, man.
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Oh, that's true.
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I filled up and we were almost six dollars a gallon.
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And I know the rest of you in the country is like, six dollars! Yeah, we based on the highest gas here to begin with, and then Diane Warren, all that stuff.
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When I was down in Oregon, the gas prices were like$4.99.
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Did you pump your own gas?
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No.
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They have to someone else has to pump their gas for you.
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I'm like, you know what?
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I'm moving to Oregon.
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Nice.
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Just that's it.
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Just for the gas.
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Just pull up the gas station.
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And now he's moving to Oregon, and I'm gonna come up visit and go Bigfoot hunting.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So whether or not uh Robert Johnson uh started the story or just embellished the story, whether it was true or not, it helped with his ticket sales, it helps with the popularity.
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And with his songs, Crows Crossroad Blues and Me and the Double Blues help keep his part of this myth going.
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Interesting.
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Robert Johnson unfortunately died at the age of twenty seven.
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That's yeah, that's another thing.
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Sorry to cut you off, but that's a I don't know if it's so much paranormal, but at the age of twenty twenty-seven.
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna talk about it.
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No.
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It's actually the same paragraph I'm reading.
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He's psychic.
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I am.
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In the music world, the age of twenty-seven is a curious age for famous musicians to pass away.
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Robert Johnson is said to be the first music musical superstar to die at the age of twenty-seven.
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Other famous musical artists to die at twenty-seven include Brian Jones, the founder of the Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Janice Joplin, Jim Morrison, Kirk Cobain, and Amy Whitehouse.
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This is known as the 27 Club, impossible linked to the similar deal with the Dark Stranger at the crossroads of their career.
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Did they make a deal with the devil?
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Question mark?
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Now I know this sounds a little morbid, but so the 27 Club is still it's still a thing, right?
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I mean it's I'm sure it is.
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I mean if I stopped at Amy on like I stopped at Amy Winehouse, but I bet you if we do a search now, we've got to I was thinking if you pay attention to like you know artists or whatever between 25 and 26 that are really big, will they make it a 28?
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So I mean like they shine so bright that they they fizzle out too early.
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Did they make a I think Jimi Hendrix was only 27?
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Was there I still listen to him to this day, like fucking legendary things?
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I know.
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It's just was it the fact that they were they made the devil the deal with the devil, and then that that's the price you pay?
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You only you're only successful and famous till the twenty age of twenty-seven?
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I mean, that's the devil in the details as you brought up.
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Yeah, yeah, you go.
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Who knows?
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Who knows indeed?
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Question mark.
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Fair, fair.
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However, the crossroads are also a place where you can find Papa Legba.
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Yeah.
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Papa Legba is a central wa spirit in Haitian voodoo and West African Furun.
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He serves as the guardian of the crossroads and the intermediary between humanity and the spirit world.
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Known as the master communicator who speaks all human languages, he opens the gates for communication, rituals, and opportunities.
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His fev or symbol commonly features a cane, a key representing his control over doors and paths, and the colors red and black.
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He represents the crossing point between the mortal world and the spiritual realm.
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Papa Legba becomes the immediate intermediator between the desires of mortal man and the realm of the spirits.
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Papa Legba is the gatekeeper, and offerings of tobacco, candy, coffee, or even rum must be made prior to arrival at the crossroads.
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With the exception of the tobacco, you can I like the same gifts.
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Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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Um As the Lord of the Crossroads, Papa Legba will help to find new paths, new opportunities, and remove the roadblocks that stand in the way.
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However, be rare weary.
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Weary.
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Papa Legba is also known as the trickster and is incredibly cunning and wise.
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Make sure you read the fine print before regreting to the proposition from Papa Legba.
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Again, double into details.
00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:27.599
Now it's it's interesting.
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I don't know if you have in this and if if you do, we can we we could just be out but crossroads you may know in some areas have uh items in the center of this of the road.
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Yes.
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Like have you got anything in there about uh Yeah, it will talk about that too.
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:45.039
Okay.
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Um the crossroads considered a no man's land where two worlds collide is a place to summon spirits or according to European tradition, hear the names of those destined to die in the coming year.
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Many traditions involve going to the crossroads at midnight, especially on nights like Halloween or New Year's Eve to perform rituals.
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Examples include listening for messages from the dead, seances, or looking to make packs with the spirit world.
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In the late 1700s and into the mid-1800s in the UK and European and Europe, criminals and those who died by suicide were buried at the crossroads.
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It was believed that the multiple paths would confuse their ghosts, preventing them from finding their way back to haunt some of their villages.
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Uh public executions often took place at these junctions to serve as a warning to travelers entering the territory.
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Now, a crossroads is basically any point where two roads cross each other.
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Yeah.
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How do you know you got the right crossroads?
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No, no, no, you need the one two blocks up.
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Just I don't know.
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Or it doesn't matter.
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Doesn't matter.
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Doesn't matter.
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:51.519
Okay.
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Yeah, uh what if it was what if like every road had a cross on it?
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And like there was a cross here and then and then once you get past that, there's another one.
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Like, and then another one, and then another one.
00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:05.200
Well, that's kind of like life.
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:05.920
Yeah, it's right.
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.000
Well, you got all those decisions you always gotta make.
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:08.960
It's like the multiverse.
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Well, if I mean if you if you wanted to go right and then left, then you just go straight and right in the same way.
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Yeah.
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You always end up at the final destination, which is you always end up where you're going.
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No matter which direction you take.
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No matter where you are, there you or where you're going, there you are.
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:25.920
Exactly.
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Uh strange creatures known as brags or boggles.
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Also bogble bogglers.
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Boggles?
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Boggles, sorry.
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Hang around the crossroads in styles at dusk.
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They entrap unrary travelers, but many of them leave their victims confused or bewildered after having their fun.
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Northumberland and County Durham in Northeast England, the Headley Cow is one of such beasts.
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It hangs around in the vicinity of Headley on the hill.
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As a shapeshifter, it appears in various guises.
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In one story a poor woman finds a pot on the road filled with gold pieces.
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She drags it home, but on the way the pot turns into a lump of silver.
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Which still isn't bad.
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It's still valuable.
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She keeps dragging and turns into a chunk of iron.
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Then a rock.
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When she gets home, it changes for a final time into the head like cow.
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Another story relates the tricks that he played on courting couples.
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Two young men set off heading to meet their girlfriends.
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They thought they saw their girls up ahead, and no matter how much they uh hurried to catch up, the girl stayed at a distance.
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Weird laughter rang out.
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Is that what they sounded like?
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Forbating?
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That was the best I could do.
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Okay.
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.319
I mean, that's the best they could uh that was.
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That's exactly what I'm saying.
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Microphone could do.
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Uh weird laughter rang out, and the men found themselves in a bog.
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:55.839
In a bogs, I thought you were going to say.
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It's a good thing there aren't too many bogs around here.
00:28:58.240 --> 00:28:59.519
Those sound pleasant to them.
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They are not fun.
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.039
They sound like boggy.
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:04.559
They are very boggy.
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:08.160
Yeah, like they took it in a bog and you just it's like quick quicksand.
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:09.119
Bog down, yeah.
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:10.160
Muddy quicksand.
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Yeah.
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:11.039
Yeah.
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I bet you they smell boggy too.
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:13.519
I'd say so.
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:16.000
I'd say bogs smell like bogs, for sure.
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Bogs smell?
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:17.920
Like bogs.
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You know how much bugs we've said, and now it just doesn't sound like anything.
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Bogs.
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Bogs, bugs.
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It like boggles the mind.
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:27.839
Boggles the mind, indeed.
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:32.160
Uh let's see.
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They found themselves in a bog.
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Luckily, they managed to escape and ran home.
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:39.039
Well, it must not have been a deep bog then.
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:41.279
Maybe it was a minor bog.
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:42.880
Oh, wait, Fraggle.
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:44.559
I was thinking the only bogger rock.
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:45.359
No, Fraggruck.
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:46.240
I'm sorry.
00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:47.680
Brain Far, go ahead.
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:52.799
Um managed to escape and ran home.
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.359
Followed all the way home by the headly cow.
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:56.960
Very interesting.
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:04.240
For creatures so fun, a shape-shifting crossroads must appear like the ideal spot to encounter unwitting victims for their pranks.
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:10.640
Uh, other strange creatures uh that show up at the crossroads, Belgian and Romanian folklore.
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:22.720
If you are pursued by the shapeshifting dog, Oschart, or blood-drinking Lelace, your only safety is to stand in and exact in the exact center of the crossroads until the creature leaves.
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:30.640
So do you stand in the exact center of it, like on one foot, or like it doesn't say, I guess if you want to.
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.599
Once your body mass is in the exact center, should be okay.
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.839
But does you can you be close to the exact center, or do you have to figure out the exact sacks?
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.319
The exact like you have to have a measuring to like hang on.
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:40.799
Why are you talking about it?
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.119
This is this is 50 inches, you know what I mean?
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:45.759
Yep.
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:47.279
I I don't know.
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:54.240
Once we're at our crossroad that pops up, we'll bring a measure tape just to make sure, and then we'll we'll let everyone know if you actually need it or not.
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:59.920
So what you should do, if you go to the crossroads, yeah, bring your tape measure, yeah, and a little little marking paint.
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:00.400
Exactly.
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:07.359
Mark your spots, and then as you're walking around, if the creature shows up, you know where you're you know where to stand.
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:07.839
Exactly.
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:09.839
And you hear it on Phantom Journeys Project.
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:11.680
Next time, exactly.
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.200
Next time you go to the crossroads, bring measure tape and a little pen just to put it.
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:22.319
Uh standing stones were frequently erected at crossroads.
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:30.000
Local legends suggest these stones were used to keep the Fey, the fairies, from entering our world through these thin spots.
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:32.240
And it makes me wonder.
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:36.640
I don't know if you have it here, because I'm I've been really good at calling out on what you have next.
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.960
I wonder if that's why roundabouts are more round?
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.799
Well, available than crossroads.
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.519
Because it's blocking the central.
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:48.720
Maybe.
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:53.119
I thought I had more in here about things that were in the center, but I guess I don't.
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.279
But okay, here's another one.
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:56.480
The money cat.
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.160
That sounds promising if you're in a creature, right?
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:12.160
In Brittany and parts of the Caribbean, legends describe how a magical black cat can be obtained at cro at the crossroads if you wait there several nights with a specific offering, like a dead hen.
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:15.680
Do you have to have a different dead hen every day?
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:18.400
I was thinking that we think yellows.
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:20.559
Or is your dead hen good for like four nights in a row?
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:21.759
Do you really keep it there as well?
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:22.960
Do you have to like well?
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:25.039
I'm sure you got a Tupperware or something to carry around in.
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:28.799
I don't know.
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:33.759
Or can you have a fight dead hen?
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:38.240
And it doesn't really tell you any money, or you're just getting a magic black cat.
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:39.119
That's true.
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:41.599
He'll probably eat the dead hen.
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:46.160
Oh yeah, and then get food poisoning and die, and then you get a dead magic cat.
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.400
I don't know what you do with the dead magic cat.
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:53.279
Um in Japan, Shimara no Kamil.
00:32:54.079 --> 00:33:02.400
These gods of crossroads were born when the god Izanagi discarded his clothes after returning from the land of the dead.
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:10.559
Statues of Jizo and Doso-jin are often placed at these intersections to ward off evil spirits and epidemics from entering villages.
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:17.920
So this guy goes to the crossroads, takes off all his clothes, and they make the statue.
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:24.720
I do that, and I'm totally being inappropriate, and I get put in the back of a police car.
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:25.599
I'm just saying.
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:27.039
I don't think that's fair.
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:28.079
Isn't fair.
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:29.200
Life isn't fair.
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:32.559
I want to be at the crossroads naked, and I don't want to get hassled.
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:33.680
True.
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:38.880
So, what do you have to do to make a difference at the crossroads?
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:40.160
There's a ritual.
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:41.200
Ritual?
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:43.440
Do we really want to tell people how to do the ritual?
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:44.400
Let's tell people.
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:44.880
Okay.
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:48.000
Yeah, because this is how you go to the crossroads and do a ritual.
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:54.559
In Hoodoo, the southern folk magic, there are specific laws to follow if you intend to meet a spirit.
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:56.880
Or the cell your soul at the intersection.
00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:58.799
Don't tell them that we sent you to sell your soul.
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:03.359
Um, the rule of three or nine.
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:13.039
You must visit the same crossroads for three or nine consecutive mornings or nights, usually just before dawn, or exactly at midnight.
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:15.199
So you didn't think I was gonna say midnight, did you?
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:15.599
No.
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.760
But so if you go there three nights in a row, yeah, and it doesn't work.
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:21.840
Then you need to stay until nine.
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.519
Yeah, you you can't if you go to four time it'll like it won't it won't work.
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:26.639
It's either three or nine.
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:27.519
It's three or nine.
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:32.639
Yeah, so you either get lucky and get get what you want at three visits, or you're in it for all nine.
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:33.199
Wow.
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:35.119
But you don't have to carry around a dead hen.
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:36.960
Well, hopefully not for nine days.
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:39.440
Well, I take it back.
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:40.239
There's an offering.
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.079
Oh, there is an offering with a hen.
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:44.159
The offering, you don't go empty-handed.
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:48.800
Common offerings include whiskey, silver coins, or a black hen.
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:50.719
This one this one doesn't have to be dead, though.
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:51.760
It has to be black.
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:53.119
It's got to be, it says black hen.
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:55.440
See how it how it's in bold black writing?
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:55.760
Yes.
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:56.880
That means it has to be black.
00:34:57.840 --> 00:34:58.639
It has to be a black hen.
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:01.440
Or I wouldn't have put it in black, bold black writing.
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:02.559
Nope.
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:03.599
It has to be dead.
00:35:03.840 --> 00:35:06.559
I guess it'd have to be probably mostly 80% black.
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.239
I don't know if it has to be pure black.
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:10.800
I and I just threw 80% of that.
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:11.920
I don't know where that came from.
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:13.599
I don't know.
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:18.719
These uh these are left at the four corners or buried in the center.
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:21.280
That's why there's always a bump in the center of Crossroads.
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:21.760
That's true.
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:23.280
People have to be burying shit.
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:23.920
Yeah.
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:27.920
Um I'm gonna put that down to wind.
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:29.440
You know, as soon as you said buried.
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:31.679
We're in the studio and all of a sudden something moved behind us.
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:33.599
And we're the only two in the studio.
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:38.480
Um the n oh, maybe I said something wrong about the black hen.
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:39.119
Maybe.
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:41.199
Maybe maybe it's Papa Legba.
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:43.440
But we're not at a crossroads.
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:47.119
Or are we maybe there was a crossroads here a hundred years ago.
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:47.840
That's true.
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:52.000
Technically we're no, we're at T junction.
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:52.559
Never mind.
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:54.800
Yeah, we're cool.
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:58.400
Papa Legba doesn't have time for T junctions.
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:00.559
We're only the only crossroads.
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:03.679
Uh, and then the instrument tuning.
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:08.719
As seen in the Robert Johnson legend, you hand your guitar or fiddle to the figure you meet.
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:11.519
He tunes it, plays a song, and hands it back.
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.639
From that moment on, you possess unnatural mastery.
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:16.960
It doesn't have to be a guitar, it'd just be whatever you're at.
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:21.760
Would you really want to be a master of the harmonica?
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:22.239
I don't know.
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:23.840
Or like like a banjo or something.
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:24.960
Would you really?
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:26.559
I'd rather be a master of the harmonica.
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:32.639
Well, you know, honestly, uh if if I was given choice if you were given the choice of probably banjo.
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:36.960
Any musical instrument that you are going to master.
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:38.719
Any musical instrument.
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:39.360
Anything.
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:44.719
And I you're talking to a person that has zero musical ability at all.
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:46.000
I can't even carry a tune.
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:49.840
I can't unpitch, I can't even carry a pitch trying to sing.
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:50.480
I'm horrible.
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:51.119
Okay.
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:51.760
Okay.
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:53.519
I would want to be.
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:57.119
I'd have to say probably good uh electric guitar.
00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:58.639
Yeah, I'd probably say a bass.
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.159
Girls go crazy for the guitar.
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:02.800
That's true.
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:03.280
Yeah.
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:03.599
Yeah.
00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:04.400
Yeah.
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:09.360
Um not that you want girls as you're married.
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:10.480
No, I'm married.
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:13.280
I don't want to even look at them anymore.
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:21.760
So you uh so uh non-musical, you'd want to be writing?
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:22.639
Yes.
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:24.159
I mean I am pretty good.
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:25.440
I just I need follow-through.
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:26.079
That's my problem.
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:28.000
Let's see, what would I want?
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:31.199
I don't know.
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:32.719
I'd have to really think about it.
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:41.679
I mean, if I'm gonna go through that much effort, potentially I have to get a black hen and and mark off on my calendar nine consecutive nights at midnight.
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:43.199
I don't know.
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:46.800
I mean I'm already I'm already gorgeous.
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:50.000
You might need nine hands just in case, too.
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:50.480
Oh.
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.920
Because otherwise maybe that's like the bribery at the end.
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:57.679
You're like, here's the fee, and then here's a little h-hom-zon, you know what I'm saying?
00:37:58.000 --> 00:37:59.679
Can I get a little bit more or something, something?
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.800
I have I have nine dead hands for you.
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:04.880
But the problem is this is the most recent.
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:05.840
Go to one.
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.320
The other ones are eight days old, seven days old.
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:09.360
And that's not my fault.
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:10.800
You should have been here sooner.
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:13.360
You would have gotten a fresher hand.
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:14.880
Think about that.
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.079
You and your rules are three or nine.
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:24.320
Um ultimately the crossroads represent the human experience of power.
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:29.199
Standing at the center of a cross is a metaphor for the present moment.
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:35.840
You have the power to choose a new direction, but you also must acknowledge the weight of leaving your old path behind.
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:38.719
Do you find yourself at the crossroads?
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:44.559
Do you have a courage to make the change that will possibly find you fame, wealth, or even power?
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.519
Would you make the deal with the devil?
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:49.119
Question mark?
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:51.199
What if you don't believe in the devil?
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:54.639
Well, then you gotta deal with Papa Legba.
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:55.679
Well, that's true.
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:56.239
That's true.
00:38:56.480 --> 00:38:58.079
You gotta make a deal with somebody.
00:38:59.280 --> 00:38:59.920
Yeah.
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:03.039
You always gotta make a deal with somebody.
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:08.320
What if it was the guy from the 70s TV show uh Let's Make a Deal?
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:13.360
I don't remember his name, but it was the old game show where people dressed up in costumes.
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:14.239
Yeah, I don't remember that.
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:16.000
They had to pick curtain one.
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:18.320
Oh, you mean blowing date or something?
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:33.599
No, you you go on, you're they all the all the contestants had to be in a costume, and he would come down, and you could have what's behind curtain number one, or be what's in front of you on this little box.
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:51.119
And you know, was it people behind the cords or no so the thought was that one of them was a good prize, one of them was not a good prize, or if you got a choice of like three, you might get a really good prize, a bad prize, and then you get like a stinker, like oh okay.
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:54.559
There'd be a donkey sitting there, and all of a sudden you got a donkey.
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.559
Um I don't I don't know.
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.519
I've never no I've never heard of the case.
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:03.840
I'm just I was just saying, what if he's the one at the crossroads?
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:09.360
Well take that game out of it, just a game a game show host.
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:14.639
Like uh man from from uh what's that TV show?
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:16.079
Precious Right.
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:26.639
No, the um the the one where you ask questions like and says Oh um oh uh you mean um Family Feud.
00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:27.519
Yes.
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.960
And um What's his name?
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.280
He's got a big mustache, I can tell you that.
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:33.840
Yes.
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:35.280
Um really funny guy.
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.119
Why am I always blanking on names?
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.480
This is what happens when you turn to turn into my age.
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:43.519
You have a hard time remembering names.
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:44.960
Steve Hur.
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:46.800
Steve Harvey Harvey, yes.
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:47.440
I knew it.
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:48.159
I knew it all the time.
00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:49.760
Steve Harvey, I said it.
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:51.519
I said it, Steve Harvey.
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:52.079
Yeah.
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:53.360
You want to see Harvey?
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:53.840
I don't know.
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:58.559
If you came to the crossroads and Steve Harvey walked up, I'd be like, nah, I'm good.
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.119
You're not taking this serious, I'm good.
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:06.880
Oh, you take it seriously, he doesn't make a joke out with you, but no, I would, I don't know.
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:08.960
I I don't know.
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:12.960
First of all, I don't know what I would go to the crossroads asking for at this point in my life.
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:14.480
Hey, I'm Chris Hansen.
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:15.679
Oh crap.
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.960
Oh no! Crossover to catch a predator.
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:21.599
I don't know who these people are.
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:23.519
Oh my goodness.
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:24.719
Okay, that would be bad.
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:27.599
Uh that would be the one person I would not want to meet at the crossroads.
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:28.079
That's true.
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:29.519
Well, I mean, you know.
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.000
Once you're good, you're, you know.
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:32.960
Yeah.
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:33.920
I don't know.
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:39.760
I mean, it's not like that I don't wish for things to be different or better.
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:44.719
I just think I'm at an age now where I'm happy with who I am and where I'm at.
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:45.519
Yeah.
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:50.079
Well, I mean, I mean it'd be nice to have a little bit of retirement put together, put aside.
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:52.480
You know, it'd be nice if things were a little bit more peaceful.
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.199
It'd be nice if things didn't cost so much.
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:57.679
But you know what?
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:03.599
I don't think it's my job to sell my soul for everybody else's benefit.
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:05.280
Does that sound selfish?
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:06.239
That's interesting.
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.320
That's an interesting way to look at it, really, isn't it?
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:15.519
Because yes, you're selling your soul to be the best at something, but everyone else in the world is benefiting from it because they're listening to that.
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:18.159
Well, I didn't mean it that way, but now you mentioned it that way.
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:18.559
Yeah.
00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:18.880
Yeah.
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:19.440
Yeah.
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:20.480
I mean it.
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:26.159
It's just if I was to wish for world peace, why am I selling my soul for world peace that benefits everybody else?
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:27.039
Very true.
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:40.719
But if you think about it, like these musical genius, geniuses that came from the crossroads and and had these like magical powers to make fantastic movie movies, maybe, but also music.
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:45.119
Music, yeah, and then people are listening to it for like 70 years afterwards.
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:48.159
Is that a kind of like a trickle-down from the devil?
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:56.559
So you're you're literally pulling hundreds of songs from the last 70 years that are devilishly made, technically.
00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:01.679
But supposedly the devil was a musician.
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:05.519
He he was the angel of music.
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:06.159
Right.
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:11.840
The fallen angel that became the devil was the mu the musician of heaven.
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:13.440
Would he play a little harp?
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:15.920
Um, I think he could play anything he wanted.
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:17.599
Well, you know what that's good.
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:24.960
So it's it's it's interesting how that kind of ties in too, because that's what I at least that's what I remember being told.
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:32.880
That would make a little bit more sense as to why musical are more willing to Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:34.960
Instead of just like a million dollars or whatever.
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:35.599
Right.
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.400
It sounds a bit more like a reason, you know.
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:48.559
But you know, people that do that do the the bidding or the the deal for a million dollars could be just as plentiful.
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:58.719
It's just that you just don't know who they are because they they're not nobody else well, I guess people would benefit technically, but not really in the long run.
00:43:58.960 --> 00:43:59.440
I mean
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:03.280
I'm sure a stockbroker works hard enough and whatnot.
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.519
The Wolf of Wall Street, I'm sure, sold his soul somewhere along the line.
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:11.199
I wonder if you here's something for you.
00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:15.119
In other way, every dollar bill or every money or coin made has a number on it.
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:15.679
Yeah.
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:20.159
And it's probably I don't know what number it's up to or whatever, Courtney, but what if you wish to do it?
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:21.920
I'm sure.
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:22.800
Yeah, I'm sure.
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:23.519
Oh absolutely.
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:31.119
I'm sure like if you ask for a million dollars, well all the numbers have to be Sequential?
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.000
Like future istick.
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:34.400
Oh.
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:38.480
So if any anyone ever counts them, there's numbers that never were actually printed.
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:39.679
Well, see, there you go.
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:41.679
And they're like, how the fuck do they exist?
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:42.239
They're real.
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:43.440
They must be fake, then.
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:44.320
They're not.
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:46.400
If they're not registered, they must be fake.
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:46.639
Yeah.
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:53.760
Then you get arrested for uh some kind of like theft of uh government property or something.
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:54.719
Yeah.
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:57.119
See, there's always details.
00:44:58.400 --> 00:44:59.039
What's that?
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:05.679
Futuristic of money that has not been created yet.
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:08.480
But yet they're absolutely authentic.
00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:11.599
Same thing if you have a time machine.
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:15.840
You go to the future, collect a hundred bucks from an ATM and bring them back.
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:17.519
Is it still spendable?
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:19.199
I mean, as long as they look the same.
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.400
Yeah, the only thing that's different, let's say, is the serial number.
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.039
The serial number hasn't been recorded for 100 years.
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:27.280
But the bank doesn't the bank doesn't know that.
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:27.599
Yeah.
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:29.519
So they just are going to take your$100.
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:30.800
Yeah, they take it easy.
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:35.280
But somewhere along the line, someone's going to get hit for uh counterfeiting.
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:42.480
Because if you find a$100 bill from 100 years ago, that's in pristine condition.
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:42.960
Yeah.
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:46.079
You're like, how the fuck did this last 100 years?
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:51.760
Well it because you wouldn't go into that much detail for like 100 bucks.
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:53.920
You wouldn't go into that much detail for a dollar.
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:55.920
But but yeah.
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:08.079
If for some reason it got like scientifically studied, then like how the hell did this bill last 100 years without even deteriorating from air?
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:10.960
From oxygen from Because I had it in a box.
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:11.760
Yeah.
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.119
Anyways, that's just a weird thing.
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:16.159
My brain is when I'm gonna do it.
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:20.480
Okay, so uh this is a this is a little thing away from the subject, also that's always baffled me.
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:22.960
I may have mentioned on the show before, I don't remember.
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:34.000
But if you have a time machine, yes, and you go back, let's say 20,000 years, yes, pick up a branch off this ground, bring that branch back to the present.
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:34.320
Yeah.
00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:38.880
So you've only been to you, I've only been gone maybe two seconds.
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:47.679
So I'm only two seconds technically, and the way I see it is you may have just killed everyone that has ever existed past that point.
00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:48.800
It's possible.
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:49.199
Yes.
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:50.480
But let's say I didn't.
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:50.719
Yes.
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:55.920
Let's say that wasn't a uh let's just say that piece of wood had nothing to do with future events.
00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:56.639
Right.
00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:02.800
And I have that piece of wood um tested for age.
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:07.679
The uh the uh Yeah, it would probably be brand new.
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:09.760
Would it yeah, would it come up as being new?
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:10.719
Or would it come up as being a few years?
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:17.840
I apparently think it would come up as either brand new, like it fell off the tree or whatever, like maybe 30 years ago or something.
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:32.400
Um or they would know it as something being from 20,000 years ago because of because of the type of bacteria or the type of the lack of pollutants in the air or something.
00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:32.960
Exactly.
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:33.519
Yeah.
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.039
I'd see that's but that if I had a time machine, that's what I would do.
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:39.280
I'd just go get a piece of wood from 20,000 years ago.
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.199
Go back to 20,000 years ago and get some wood?
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:42.000
Yeah.
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:46.320
No.
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:47.599
Um I don't want to get it.
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:53.280
I don't want to go back far enough that I'm getting stomped by a dinosaur as soon as I step out of the time machine.
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:53.679
True.
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:56.880
But also I don't want to get some kind of major disease.
00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:00.639
So I have no I I have under those COVID masks on that, the N95 masks.
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:02.880
One thing I'd love to do just for fun.
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:09.679
If I had a time machine, I'd go back to 1970 something when Star Wars Force came out, right?
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:10.320
77.
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:16.079
77, when all the toys came out, and I'd buy like a couple of toys like in the box for staying.
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:17.599
The hard to find ones.
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.400
Yeah, and for like 20 bucks or whatever the hell they are 35 cents or something like that.
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:26.960
Bring them back to the store and go, listen, this has been in my attic for god now so long.
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:35.199
My dad had these kids, and his mom took them away, put them in the attic, and he wore that on here, are they with anything?
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:42.159
And they're all these like, oh my god, this is Yoda from his force whatever, you know, and they're like, Is that something?
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:47.360
I would take I I would take it to uh like Sotherby's or something and have it auctioned off.
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:47.599
Yeah.
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:49.280
Because someone's gonna pay a million dollars for that.
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:50.320
Oh, absolutely, yeah.
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:58.400
It's so it's so weird that like something that you would have bought in the 60s or something for five cents or ten cents magazines, whatever.
00:48:58.639 --> 00:48:58.719
Right.
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:00.880
They'll sell for like fucking millions just.
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:10.880
There was a guy, there was a guy on uh on eBay that paid six hundred thousand dollars or something astronomical like that for a Cheeto that was shaped like a gorilla.
00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:15.280
Yeah, you know what's funny, and not to advertise because he doesn't need it.
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:16.320
Fucking gold.
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:18.559
You ever see the thing on on um Netflix?
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:20.000
Golden, I think it's called.
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:20.400
No.
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:27.119
Um there's a uh a businessman by the name of Golden, and he does auctions online.
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:27.679
Okay.
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:31.039
And he has all his people go out and they like you know, find items and bring them up.
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:32.800
Cheetos that are shaped like girls.
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:39.360
Like uh Cheetos that are shaped like uh uh Pokemon things, they sold one for like God knows how many.
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:44.239
Why are you paying money for like people buying like Pokemon cards for like millions?
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:57.360
Oh they're just because we have a uh theft ring in LA right now from people getting the sporting uh sports cards and they're not getting the baseball cards or whatever they're gonna do for the Pokemon and they're taking them all.
00:49:57.679 --> 00:49:58.400
So crazy.
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.960
It's like how is that still a thing?
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:03.360
Collectibles are so interesting.
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:06.239
I really love that TV show, and if you're into that, go check it out.
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:10.800
Uh I'm not really advertising this guy, but he doesn't need it, but trust me, it's really fun, really fun.
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:12.719
Really nice guy as well.
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:18.000
Um I've been to the crossroads, though.
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:21.599
You've been to a crossroads, it's been a long time ago, but I've I've seen crossroads.
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.400
I've made I've made the trip a couple of times to the crossroads.
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:26.239
Not to the point where I'm sold my soul, yeah.
00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:32.559
But I've got to that point, it's like I can't go on the way I'm going, I need something different, and I made the change, I made the choice to do something different.
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:34.960
Oh, we've all done cross rolls, that's for sure.
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:38.719
And then recently I hit one myself, but you know, we'll do that another day.
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:39.280
Yeah.
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:41.280
But um yeah.
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.639
I think I think that's a really interesting episode.
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:51.599
Um I do love hearing about the stories of all the blues players and like the down or look kind of people.
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:56.719
Do you think Robert Johnson sold us all, or do you think he just went someplace and practiced 24 hours a day?
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:02.719
So many people were like overnight successes, like they'd be really shit one day, and then you go to it.
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.840
The next day they show up and suddenly they're like fucking blues masters.
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:15.440
But yeah, I mean the thing was is this guy was a poor player, yeah, and then a little over a year later, and there's the guitar masters are having trouble playing what he's playing.
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:20.800
Yeah, that's like that's that's a little bit more than just practicing 24 hours a day for a year.
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:26.079
Yeah, it's kind of like I don't know, is I mean for you.
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:32.800
I mean, unless you fucking like put every hour into that guitar for a year, yeah.
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:44.480
I could see see some weird shit happening, but like even the likes of Jimi Hendrix playing with his his teeth or painted behind his back, or like you know, the guy as high as a kite doing it too.
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:47.599
He was so good that oh my god, man.
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:49.360
I'm with you.
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:50.719
Yeah you know who I miss?
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:54.800
He didn't he died a lot longer, a lot older than being 27, but you know who I miss?
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:56.000
Prince.
00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:57.199
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:00.719
I I I I that's my emotional stuff.
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:05.039
I I wouldn't I remember a song, but I wouldn't I never I couldn't name a song for you.
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:06.639
The Red Corvette.
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:08.000
Oh my gosh.
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:10.719
You need to you need to delve into some print stuff.
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:11.039
Yeah.
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:18.239
It's the one thing that from growing up that I wish I had done back in the 80s was gone to a Prince concert.
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:21.760
Of course my parents probably wouldn't have let me, but that's the one thing I would have.
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:24.320
That's my one thing I would have liked to Okay.
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:26.880
If I had a time machine, I'd go back and see a Prince Machine.
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:27.760
Yeah, Prince concert.
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:32.320
Back in like 1987, 86, where he was really on top of it.
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:32.880
True.
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:38.880
One one thing I'd like to do like that was working, uh I'd like to do an episode on is Dave a Bowie.
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:39.840
Oh yeah?
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:41.599
Yeah, especially with the occult.
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.199
Oh, you know, he's very deep into the annoying enough to.
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:47.440
Oh really?
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:49.280
It's almost scary, yeah.
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:50.480
It's it's very interesting.
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:52.639
I think that's the one episode I'll write up pretty soon.
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:54.480
Yeah, that sounds I'm I'm into it.
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:55.039
Let's do it.
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:55.760
Yeah.
00:52:57.119 --> 00:52:59.199
So but yeah, that was cool.
00:52:59.920 --> 00:53:00.880
Babalegba.
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:01.760
Baba legba.
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:03.519
Is that like Baba Yaga?
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:05.920
Uh no.
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:10.239
But something came up just the other day where I had explained Baba Yaga.
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:13.679
Yeah, uh, isn't that that hot in the in the forest or something?
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:16.639
Isn't that the Russian um?
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:18.239
We think of two things.
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:24.320
In Baba Yaga, the Russian uh psychic that just died not too long ago?
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:25.760
I'm thinking of something else on.
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:26.480
Oh, okay.
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:34.239
The the the the the healthy thing, the cottage in the woods that stands up as legs.
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:37.679
The building that stands up with legs?
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:38.960
I don't know the name of the.
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:41.199
That's gonna be an episode too, so yes.
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:46.000
Um I don't know if I'd be really scared of a building with legs.
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.480
Well, it's it's the fact that once you're inside it, it doesn't matter.
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:56.000
Oh, well, I'm uh if I was uh like walking through the woods, came to a clearing and there's a cabin sitting there, and all of a sudden it just stands up.
00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:56.880
Yeah.
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:58.800
I would run if it chased me.
00:53:58.960 --> 00:53:59.679
Oh yeah, of course.
00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:03.679
But I think I wouldn't be so scared I wouldn't pull out my camera first and get a picture or two.
00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:04.079
True.
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:10.480
There's actually a there's for some reason that reminds me, there's a good movie on Netflix called War Machine.
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:11.599
War Machine.
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:13.519
Springs to life.
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:16.239
Opens up one eager eye.
00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:17.760
99 Love Balloons.
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:18.480
Oh my god, no.
00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:21.679
That's that's a theme from uh one of the lyrics.
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:24.639
War Machine Springs to Life.
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:25.039
Oh, yeah.
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:26.880
Opens up one eager eye.
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:32.239
Da da da da da Captain Kirk, da da da da 99 Love Balloons.
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:33.760
Flow by the There you go.
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:35.119
Uh yeah, interesting.
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:36.320
Anyway, uh good movie?
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:37.599
Uh War Machine.
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:46.480
It's it's about like training camps, some guys trying to be a ranger or something like that, and he's in some training camp or whatever, and suddenly there's an attack by aliens.
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:48.480
But the aliens are mechs.
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:49.039
Oh.
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:50.960
And they have to sub they have to survive.
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:51.519
You know what?
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:52.639
I did see the preview for them.
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:55.519
It's actually really it's in it's oh, it's not bad.
00:54:55.679 --> 00:54:56.239
It's good.
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:57.840
It's not well, that's good.
00:54:57.920 --> 00:54:59.519
I mean, I don't want to watch something that's bad.
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:02.639
Yeah, it's not bad, it's not that's for sure, that's for sure.
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:04.480
Alright, well, I think we leave it there, Ken.
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:06.480
No.
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:12.400
But if you've met Papa Legba at the crossroads or maybe they deal with the devil himself, let us know.
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:13.199
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00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:15.119
Go to Phantomjourneys.com.
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:22.719
You can just click on the little button there at the bottom that says contact us, and boom, you just write in your story, and you get talking to us.
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:23.440
There you go.
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:24.960
How hard is that?
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:28.719
Uh, probably a lot easier than making that devil uh deal with the devil.
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:29.199
True.
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:30.880
That is very less paperwork, too.
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:31.760
Yeah.
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:33.519
A lot of paperwork.
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:41.679
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00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:55.280
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00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:04.159
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00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:04.800
We're getting back.
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:07.599
If you bought a couple more shirts, you wouldn't have had to wait five months.
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:08.800
Let's just put it that way.
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:11.760
Yeah, no, not that it's all your fault.
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:13.039
I'm not that's not what I'm saying.
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:14.400
Yeah, talking to the people.
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:16.639
Interesting.
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:17.039
Yeah.
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Last thing you should ever do is blame the don't blame the people.
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Blame the game.
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The game.
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I think they're the game, they're the player.
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Don't, don't, don't, yeah, don't hate the game.
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Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Something like that.
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Something like that.
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Just saying.
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If you've met with the devil, tell us about it.
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True.
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Alrighty.
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Alright.
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