Speaker 1: My husband thinks I'm ugly, so now he wants an open marriage. I told him about the first guy I want to see. He doesn't want an open marriage anymore.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, as soon as she links up with a haughty batadi, it's all. Oh, I just want to be with you, babe. Baby. You know I've I've been heaving. I sat down and really had some thoughts lately. Yeah. You know, when I said open marriage, I meant for me. Yeah, for you, I love, babe. There's nothing that makes me happier than banging other people. But it makes me said when you bang other people. I just have such a big heart. I just have so much love to get. Oh my god. Yeah, I want to give my sweetness to all of those, all those babes. I got some money for all these bees out there, gotta paliinate the world. But I still only have one queen because I am Okay, oh boy, my main queen. There we go, baby.
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Speaker 1: About one year ago, my husband Mail forty eight told me female thirty nine that he was not sexually attracted to me any more.
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Speaker 2: Dang, sorry about that. That is a tough hammer to drop, not fun. I kind of understand that. Oh no, you're beautiful on the inside. Kidding all jokes. God, Era is.
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Speaker 1: Cod really is it is? It is blossoming. That's because since our second child, male four, was born, he hasn't made love to him.
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Speaker 2: Damn four years.
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Speaker 1: That is pretty rough. He said he loved me more than anything in the world and that the rest of the relationship was perfect, but he needed to do the dirty deed or he would go crazy. I was taken aback, but I started asking him about the definition of an open marriage and we discussed it over a few weeks. To be honest, I was feeling very sexually deprived and the idea ordered to grow on me. I said yes and asked if there were any rules, and he said that usually every couple had their own rules.
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Speaker 2: That's true. That's so my rules. I I beg whoever I want, and you don't. Yeah, you just get to be an old maide that has a dusty old crevice for a vagina that is unused. You know, it's custom fit for us, babe for hours. Yeah. Yeah, And I feel like for our needs, your needs must not be met exactly. Yeah, now you get it. Yeah, I'm trying to go back to like the nineteen fifties style of the relationship. You know, thrown it back the good old days. You know, Oh my god, make open marriages great a get babe. That literally was the og open marriage. Men just rampantly cheating on them, cheating with you know, you got their secretaries, only higher hot secretaries, because that was that's who you bang, that's what you banged. The rules, those are the rules, God, those rules of the open barriage. Literally have you seen mad menon Point? That is literally a documentary. This is no fiction.
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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, So our rules are no bringing them home and use protection. My husband was very clear that he also wanted to know who the other person slash persons were and when it happened.
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Speaker 2: That's uh okay. Three rules.
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Speaker 1: The when he said, was to plan our days. He was meeting some new women within a week. I mean he's busy.
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Speaker 2: I guess.
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Speaker 1: He told me everything, showed me pictures, and was gone most of the nights. I'm not gonna lie. I feel like crap, But I thought I needed to give it time. I mean, I get it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's is that a good rule? In a week?
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Speaker 1: He just yeah, I think it's a little information overload. Maybe it's like if you ask you share or something. Yeah, it seems like yeah, He's just like look baby, look, look, look, look, look look at all the top bapes.
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Speaker 2: Come on, come out, check out, check come out. Yeah. And this is when we did doggy Yeah, this is when we did a This is a slide show, this is a this is a recap. You know, I could really fix my form on these thrusts for this one. But don't worry this next girl. You really got it down.
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Speaker 1: If we go to slide seven, you would think this is where the evening ended. But then if we go to slide eight, a second wind appeared abruptly.
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Speaker 2: And if you look at this graph, you can see my sexual performance time has been increasing from five to fifteen minutes over the course of the next the last three weeks.
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Speaker 1: Wait, honey, I think it's a second Oh, don't mind the metrics now. I was more careful, however, because I needed to know the people that I was hooking up with, at least to have some kind of feelings. But I started to relax more and flirt back with some guys. One of them is a client, Jay thirty six, at the bank I worked for, not my client, but he sees me often and he was always pleasant and extra chatty with me. This, this seems like it could be potentially Uh I mean a client like that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, seems isn't that, Like.
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Speaker 1: It's still a workplace.
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Speaker 2: But I also I feel like for the open relationship stuff, like at least my understanding of what, you know, what, how they went into it, it seems like it was just a physical thing and like the whole like wanting to find an emotional connection is it wasn't an explicit violation because they didn't put that in the open marriage contract. But seems to go against the intention.
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Speaker 1: But you know what, it doesn't go against what getting your rocks.
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Speaker 2: Off, getting your rocks out. You gotta get your rocks off popping. Yeah, you know you need emotional connection to.
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Speaker 1: Rock off exactly. She she needs to be railed with.
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Speaker 2: Empathy can't come until you say I love you. That's right.
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Speaker 1: So now I've started flirting about a month ago, and I finally decided I was ready to start sleeping with others. Okay, oh yeah, I told Jay about my arrangement. He was disappointed.
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Speaker 2: Why huh?
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Speaker 1: How funny the first arrangement after after your dozens of tender dates.
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Speaker 2: You know, I don't, but I don't think he can be mad at her for anything because there was no there's no explicit like no like no emotional connection or whatever, like let it create those rules literally.
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Speaker 1: And he's gone on like he was.
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Speaker 2: He she's pumping at umping him through. And the first guy for a month.
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Speaker 1: He was after a week boom, damn d date like come on now. He was disappointed at first, but then he said he was in I went home to my husband and asked him if he was going to do anything Friday, and he said no. I told him that was good because I needed him to be with the children. I showed him Jay and I told him that I was meeting him on Friday. He went silent, hmm, no, no words. Now, no, where's the slide show?
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Speaker 2: Now, buddy, buddy, you've made your bed, sleeping at my No, no, no, I can't. No, I'm making my bed and going to the hotel. Come on, baby.
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Speaker 1: Friday came and my husband texted me that he was stuck at work.
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Speaker 2: Wow, stuck at work. Take care of the kids. Interesting and he's working hard those secretaries.
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Speaker 1: Oh, he's banging out some some overdue material. If you catch my drift, and that he later was going to meet a girl so he couldn't watch a children.
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Speaker 2: Time to get the sitter.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I guess this continued every time I fixed a date with Jay, he would do the same and leave me with the children.
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Speaker 2: Man's playing forty Oh my god, more like two D chess.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, very obviously. Yeah, oh my god. I don't mind spending more time with my children. But I was getting annoyed.
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he's not letting you get those rocks off. Come on now, and his rocks, his rocks are miles away, has been thrown off the different, different galaxy.
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Speaker 1: Last Monday, I had no meetings at work after lunch, which often means that I don't need to stay in place. I texted Jay if you wanted to meet, and he was at home.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is an afternoon delight situation.
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Speaker 1: Oh yes it is. We're we're getting so it can't be cock blocked. Nope, my children were in daycare. I went to his place and it was hot. I've missed this so so much, feeling that I'm desired and that someone's eyes on me, filled with lust for me and my body.
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Speaker 2: Oh pretty sweet good gravy. I mean, not sweet sexy. It's sexy. It's fifty shades of gray sexy. I'm glad.
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Speaker 1: I mean she thinks you low key deserves it though.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, especially because like the husband's league not giving her anything.
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Speaker 1: Bro, my guy is banging twenty four seventh sixty five. He took all of his slots and all of her slots. When I got home, I saw my husband and told him, and he was livid because I didn't tell him beforehand. How dare you?
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Speaker 2: But she did. She said I'm gonna I plan on sleeping with this guy.
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Speaker 1: She she literally let him know constantly basically all that. All that it was was maybe maybe she didn't mention this exact spanific instance, but it's like she's literally over and over repeated. Yeah, so it kind of low key. It's the same like I'm gonna hook up with this guy. I've showed you a ton of times. Yeah, but you didn't like that it was three pm instead of seven, like what, And it wasn't in the house or anything, It wasn't the children.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think it broke any of the rules. I think she's in the clear.
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Speaker 1: Well, Opiko's on. I broke a rule.
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Speaker 2: What's the rule?
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Speaker 1: I told him that I didn't he knew that I was seeing this guy and that we've been trying to make time. I guess, I guess because she didn't tell him about the specific instance. Yeah. Anyway, he didn't speak to me for the rest of the evening. God he woke me up in the middle of the night with gentle kisses and touches and we did it three times, the first time in almost five years.
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Speaker 2: Interesting. I think I think he has a case of like, now that he sees that she's desirable by other men, he's now attracted her again.
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Speaker 1: This is this is a little comical to me.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think I think it's just super unfair to.
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Speaker 1: Her completely, like oh my gosh, and he's just like it's it's just as a flip flop, yeah, you know what I mean. And it'd be one thing if he saddered down and like really was like I mean, it would still be kind of bad. If he's like, hey, I thought this was right, I'm not as comfortable with you seeing it.
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Speaker 2: It's still still kind of bad bad, But especially because he's been like gallivanting around exactly but this just feels like he's weaseland.
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Speaker 1: It feels like he's weaseland to me, and we've done it every single night since. Now he's saying that he's attracted to me again and that's why we need to close up the marriage. But I don't want to. I like having other options, and we're not her anyone. Okay, there is a juice juice beefy Oh yeah, we got yeah, we got we got them to go, but we got something to go. Okay, quick thoughts everyone right now? Sam, do you think Op's a hole at this instance?
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Speaker 2: No, not at all, not at all, zero percent. The a whole husband prompted this, Yeah, and now like suddenly has changed his mind wants to close it up. My feeling is there's a good chance that he flip flops again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, which what I think that would be so bad. That's a good prediction, that's a good predict.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you know, I understand that can happen, But he needs to be I think he needs to communicate with himself. Yea. Why he's feeling this, Yeah, because he's like, like, I'm not going to say like his feelings aren't valid. Yeah, but I like I think he needs to understand why he's flip flopping so much, and like what is driving this attraction, because it seems what's driving this attraction is like his view of her perceived societal value. Yea, as like an object of desire.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and now that, yeah she has that. Now he's all over It's it's just it's this cannot be a coincidence. No, it's he they started hooking up again and wanting to close the marriage right after the first time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as she's like, oh wow, like other guys want her. It's it's the Cleopatra effect.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't heard that before.
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Speaker 2: I just made it up.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow. Save the Philosopher over here.
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Speaker 2: Was like, you know, had that had the baddest vagione in the game r right, because like all the dudes from all around the Mesopotamia, freaking region, Egypt, Greece, all all those places were just like damn she bad as hell. And it was wasn't because she necessarily had like the yeah, because she was like the prettiest in all the land or the most bodacious booty and all all of of of Djibouti, But it was because she was like seen as this icon, right, and this thing that all men wanted and most likely some women too, and oh baby, and like her perceived value in society was like massive, and so everyone wanted to hook up with Cleopatra Opus Cleopatra. Yeah, I like. I like the new Turkey Patra effect.
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Speaker 1: That's right. So on to the update. When I found Jay, however, my husband was suddenly attracted to me. We've been doing it regularly. I loved it because I love my husband and it's just a wonderful feeling to be desired by him again, even though deep down I knew he wasn't attracted me as much as he was panicking that I'm starting to sleep with others.
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Speaker 2: Ah. Interesting a panic with the worst cad the worst kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: And I was right. Last Tuesday I was supposed to meet with Jay again. So Monday evening, as per our agreement, I told my husband about it. He was so surprised. Why do you even want to meet him when I've done it to your sweet vagine every night for the past week, babe?
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Speaker 2: Is that actually what? No? I took some I took some liberty for.
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Speaker 1: I just looked at him and told him that I didn't understand what he meant. We had an open marriage, and I've been very clear that I don't want to close it again. I feel very happy and content for the first time in years, and he has been sleeping with others for a year without any problems. God.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, hipocrisy is the issue.
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Speaker 1: It's too high. Yeah, it's way too high.
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Speaker 2: I don't have like, I don't really have an issue with someone saying, hey, this is what I what I need, and let me show you what I need by living that myself. Yeah, but when it's a double standard like you, it's it's.
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Speaker 1: Just so hot. Maybe if it was like first few weeks he did one person, she did one peron. Again, it's poor, but it's it's so far at this point.
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Speaker 2: She's only had one due in this man's leg, you know, been running trains.
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Speaker 1: Dude, Like all the all that he'd gone through, all the secretaries and all of the companies.
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Speaker 2: All the secretaries, try single secretary of that tri state.
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Speaker 1: It's all that. Maybe that's why maybe he actually ran through the list, he just yellow books secretaries. Oh my goodness, Well why now? Well, he told me that he hadn't been with anyone in almost two weeks.
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Speaker 2: Oh wow, standing, oh man, man, in two weeks, what is he gonna do? Wait? Someone called the Nobel peace price. We need to give to him now two weeks? What do you want? Bro?
00:15:27
Speaker 1: Because he thought that I quote was enough, so he didn't understand why he wasn't enough for me.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, bro.
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Speaker 1: Maybe when you winter and literally said you are not attracted to you at all? Literally, dude, also.
00:15:43
Speaker 2: In two weeks, get off your stop, man, have a cheeky wank or something.
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Speaker 1: He's he's he's I mean, he's so used to his frequency is so high to him. That's like, that's a week, bro, He's like not three three secretaries, different secretaries a day? I mean that, what's what's fourteen? What's fourteen times three? Is that thirty six forty eight?
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Speaker 2: Crap?
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Speaker 1: How can I not do math anymore?
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Speaker 2: Six times seven? That's like forty Wow, this is pathetic. It's not quarantine. Did twenty eight to forty two? Forty two?
00:16:18
Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: What was it?
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Speaker 1: Forteen times three forty two?
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Speaker 2: Nice?
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Speaker 1: Nicely done, bro, I completely I said, thirty six and forty eight? Oh god, your boys, okay, we can read though we don't read math. I asked him why the sudden interested me in my body. He has never been so interested before, and never so passionate and attentive, not even when I was ten years younger and more beautiful. He said, he always found me beautiful, and he didn't know why he's more attracted now except know why, dude, except for the time when you said you weren't attracted to her.
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Speaker 2: I think we know why. He's like he fell out of love or like, you know, fell out of interest with her body, because he's like, I got that so unlocked down, like like he's like he's like, he's like, you know, she has no value to me anymore, and there's there's no desire there because the world does not desire her, which this is his thinking, that might think. And now suddenly that he sees that she's desirable to other men, now he's like, oh my god, she's desirable to me. There it is, yeah, yikes, social psychology, big brains, ladies, gentlemen.
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Speaker 1: I told him I knew why, because suddenly you couldn't picture someone else with your wife, and suddenly I was more than a wife or a mother in your eyes, I was a sexual being.
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Speaker 2: There we go, yeah, which I think is like you know, this is probably a great case in some ways for the open marriage to like re spark the desire between the two partners. Like, it's kind of interesting.
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Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about it like that.
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Speaker 2: Like what if you're like, dude, like I'm not, I'm not really feeling your hotness anymore. Maye we start hooking up with other people and we'll think we're hot again.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's possible.
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Speaker 2: Never consider idea. I think that's a great idea. If you guys are both on board, Yo, that's a.
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Speaker 1: Great If they're both on board, it's it's just it's just simp a dicey game.
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Speaker 2: I think that it's a dicey game for sure. If that is truly both like if they want to attracted to your partner anymore, it feels like a great solution. That's a solution, bro, that's a great solution. If I'm like fifty and I'm and and one of my like my partner is not attracted me or I'm not attracted to them, open marriage for a little bit, like you know, three months, let's see how many batties we both can get, and then we'll tell each other and then we'll probably get jealous, and then we'll be together.
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Speaker 1: It's just a cycle open close, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, Dude, everyone in in uh retirement home is hooking up with each other.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what else they got to do?
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Speaker 2: What else they got to do? And then they're probably more madly into each other because they're like damn.
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Speaker 1: I mean at that point, it's just like Greece. You don't care like jeans, still got it. You don't got to worry about STDs. You're going out the door and going out the door. Dude, free for all. Yeah, get super Clamydia, the ultimate. Yeah, I get it all.
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Speaker 2: Collect them all have massive orgies where it's like I have this idea for an orgy where it's like a circle and it's like dickt to butt, dicta but dicta butt, dicta butt. So it's one It would only work for a gay orgy, but it was like one continuous circle where everyone's sing each other. Oh yeah, you could do that too. You could do strap ons, that's true. Could you can do strap ons? There we go inclusive. You got to include the headerows that's right, And it's just like one circle of continuous interconnected sex.
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Speaker 1: I mean that is human centipede that sounds human sentiped different thing that sounds like a genis world record. That needs to be the largest continuous ring of people just banganging each other.
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Speaker 2: I wonder if that this must be like a video somewhere somewhere, somewhere somewhere.
00:19:34
Speaker 1: Called U show. What's our newest show going to be called the Circle of Sex? Okay?
00:19:40
Speaker 2: Sex and the People Sex? Okay, Big Gray moves There we go the Only Fans Podcast.
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Speaker 1: That's right. He tried to deny it, but I didn't budge. I told him that he wasn't seeing other women because he's too busy trying to keep me at bay. The moment I was under his control again, he would lose interest and start seeing other women.
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Speaker 2: To your we said, that's what we said. I think I think she's right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully when I'm pregnant, because in your mind, I would be less appealing to men. He was so angry about this, and he told me it was all in my head.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
00:20:10
Speaker 2: I think she's right on the money with this one.
00:20:12
Speaker 1: I think.
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Speaker 2: So he threw the dinner plate across the room and.
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Speaker 1: Left Yoh that is not acceptable.
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Speaker 2: No, Yeah, he's losing it. He's losing it.
00:20:22
Speaker 1: He spent the night outside. Next day he was calmer, and I told him that I didn't want to close our marriage. I loved him very much, but I was miserable without making love.
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Speaker 2: I believed it in my.
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Speaker 1: Heart that we, the both of us, could have the cake and eat it too. We could have our beautiful life with our children, our careers, families, friends, our hobbies, trips and dinner dates, everything that we loved and cherished about each other, and active sex lives with like minded people. I told him that he didn't seem to be as cool with my picks as I was all these months with all the women he showed me. Maybe I could be more discreet so the men I met stayed faceless in his mind. Maybe it was easier he didn't answer me, or we could go our separate ways to this. He was starting to get agitated again, so I asked him to calm down and listen.
00:21:09
Speaker 2: Interesting. So she's like, hey, I don't want to back down from this open marriage. So it's either open marriage or no marriage.
00:21:15
Speaker 1: And it's wild, because bro, this is literally all because of you, like you created the monster.
00:21:21
Speaker 2: That's the thing about asking for an open marriage when you said it was a dicey game. It's like if you open it that and you both agree to open it, then you have to both agree to closes it, you know, and.
00:21:32
Speaker 1: That it just it just might not line up, you know, it might line up.
00:21:35
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:21:35
Speaker 1: The more like decisions like that, the harder it is to align it hard to close. It is unlike the legs of the secretary that this guy was my goodness. He couldn't just demolish the kitchen and walk away every time I said something that wasn't to his taste.
00:21:53
Speaker 2: Correct.
00:21:53
Speaker 1: I couldn't and wouldn't go back to how things were before opening our marriage. So either he wanted this or we get a divorce. Laying down the lock.
00:22:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like the it seems like the initial marriage is pretty unfair to herself. It feels right.
00:22:06
Speaker 1: I asked him to think about it. Thursday, when he got back from work, I had already changed and was ready to go out. He didn't say anything. When I got home, he was crying and said that he couldn't do this anymore. I told him that we can only have one solution then, and it was divorce. He said that I was brutal. Quote you're not the beautiful kind of woman I married anymore. Buddy, Buddy, buddy, this guy is too much.
00:22:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just it's like, I mean, let's let's play Devil's advocate for a secon. Yeah, right, is it mean to not go back to I think his reasons are bad. There's a lot of red flags that are coming up for him. But let's let's say let's say there were like, let's say there were no red flags. Again, obvious red flags for this guy, but let's say like he let's say everything actually went smoothly where it's like he asked for an open marriage. He's like, I don't know, But then they do it, and they both go and see other people, and then he goes to her a few months later and it's like, hey, I don't know how comfortable I am with his open marriage. Do you mind if we close it? And she's like, I mean yeah, she has every right to say no even in that situation.
00:23:11
Speaker 1: So again, if if what kind of marriage, if the decisions one hundred percent aligned at every step between the two of them, then there's no issue. But it's like he's done all this tomfoolery and he created the situation.
00:23:25
Speaker 2: Now not aligned.
00:23:26
Speaker 1: And now she's like no, like, now that we're here, because of what you suggested, I don't want this.
00:23:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, so and so, even without the red flags, I think she's still entitled to say no open marriage or or divorce. Yeah, and so I think with all these red flags, she's like doubly entitled. Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:44
Speaker 1: He hasn't been home this weekend. He called every night just to say good night to the children. He texted me once are you in love with Jay? No?
00:23:52
Speaker 2: Is he better than me? Losing questions like oh.
00:23:56
Speaker 1: No, are you going to start dating him if we divorce? I didn't answer.
00:24:01
Speaker 2: Damn, bro, you're asking the dude. Dude, Okay, there's it's it's to see a medium chunk. But yeah, guy, it's you know, like I don't necessarily feel bad for him, but.
00:24:17
Speaker 1: Like it's a it's a it's a it's a drastic fall.
00:24:20
Speaker 2: There's part of me that if he didn't have red flags, or I think there would be part of me that would feel a little bad for him.
00:24:27
Speaker 1: My guy is about to go from red flag to red pill real fast.
00:24:31
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:24:32
Speaker 1: All I woulded was the big whoever I woulded, And then she banged someone and I didn't.
00:24:37
Speaker 2: Like it, and then here we are. Yeah, dude, you made the bed. You made the bed, made got a lay. Yeah, it sucks, It sucks for you. You know he made the bed.
00:24:48
Speaker 1: But Sam, are you ready to get in the bed of this update?
00:24:51
Speaker 2: I would. I just want to. I just want to like give a little little shout out to Op for for really standing her ground. Yes, yes, she know, like she realized what she needs to be happy. Yes, and she's not going to take shit from this guy that's been treating her poorly. You are exactly. It really is a beautiful thing. Yeah, it's a good thing. But it sucks for this dude. But I think he has a lot of stuff to work on on his own.
00:25:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's got to he's got to go work it out. He's got to go work it out. Okay, on to the update, the final.
00:25:19
Speaker 2: Update, boo countdown.
00:25:23
Speaker 1: Jay has called me to tell me that it's all over and Jay, remember Jay is her hookup, not the husband.
00:25:31
Speaker 2: I wonder why that happened. Funny you ask Tom Foolery and the husband did something. My husband asked to meet him yesterday. He denied that we had an open marriage and told Jay he needed to back off. Wow, bro, Bro, Wow.
00:25:49
Speaker 1: He showed him the texts where I said that Jay wasn't better in bed and that I wasn't in love with him. So Jay was very hurt believing that I like to him this sneaky scoundrel. He used the texts. That's why he asked those questions.
00:26:07
Speaker 2: Bro, is he where does he think this is bro getting him?
00:26:12
Speaker 1: I think I think he's he's gone full delusion mode.
00:26:15
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's I think he's probably just trying to hurt anything he can. Yeah, I think he's going to he's going he's trying to get like kamikazeing and find the plane into the relationship. And he's like, I'm taking you down with me.
00:26:29
Speaker 1: Man, like all plausible deniability.
00:26:34
Speaker 2: This guy's just the window, full blown mass, full blown ass hat, bro. And he's lying to the guy. He's literally he's literally lying.
00:26:41
Speaker 1: I tried to explain everything to Jay, but he didn't believe me.
00:26:44
Speaker 2: I don't feel bad that this guy has made a terrible life for himself. Is Yeah.
00:26:50
Speaker 1: I sent him a screenshot with my husband arranging his hookups and a screenshot with me telling my husband that I was meeting Jay. I think he believed me after that. He said he wanted to end it anyways. He has feelings for me, but this arrangement won't work for him anymore. I told him that I totally understand and I apologize for my and my husband's actions. I'm not mad, but I'm sad that I've lost him. It takes a lot for me to like and trust someone. But I understand that he doesn't want to deal with this drama. I kind of get it too.
00:27:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I understand your point and understand it.
00:27:20
Speaker 1: I'm going to miss him though. My husband came home today all smiles, and he said that we should give our open marriage another shot.
00:27:29
Speaker 2: What an act hole, What an asshole?
00:27:32
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
00:27:34
Speaker 2: Wow.
00:27:35
Speaker 1: Seeing how the children were happy seeing him after disappearing for the whole weekend broke my heart. I've been so self involved forgetting that my babies are the most important thing right now. I won't forget that now.
00:27:49
Speaker 2: Wow. I don't know if I like where this story ended. No, it's like like it feels like this feels like this dude's just getting like a free pass. Yeah, you have a villain one.
00:28:01
Speaker 1: Literally the most free pass, Like like he's done all of this tomfoolery and he I mean the way that ending leads me to believe is that they stay together.
00:28:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a happily ever after. But dude, you're marrying the wrong guy.
00:28:17
Speaker 1: Dude, he is He's a maniac. He is like on a different planet.
00:28:24
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:28:25
Speaker 1: Well, okay, all right, Well the question stands, ladies and gentlemen, for all of you, with your wonderful fingers, let us know, was op the a hole? I kind of want to know what's the real question here? What's the real question here?
00:28:36
Speaker 2: My question is is the husband the a hole for wanting to close the marriage again? Like if you I think that. The question I have is, let's say there's no red flags if you say, hey, I'm not really attracted to you, but I think it's because like I don't, I don't, I don't know. I haven't seen you as an object of this is this is really honest seeing you as an object of desire and a lot time, And I think opening the marriage would allow me to see you, like as attractive in the eyes of other men, and this I might be attracted to you. Could we open the marriage to see if we can kickstart our own sexual interest in each other again, and then close it once that sexual interest is ignited. Is that you think a non act whole thing to do. And then also like at the certain levels that op took, what was the first action that he took that was an actable behavior? Was it asking for the open marriage? Yeah? Was it saying hey, like you can't see this guy. I would really love to know where you think the act wholeness came from on either side. And then also have you ever had an open marriage and closed it or open if for anyone who has had an open marriage that it was either successful or unsuccessful, what did it look like when it started and you did you close it at any point? Did it cause the marriage to fall apart? I would love to hear those stories very much.
00:29:58
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I mean might even if we get some some great ones, might even bring it on the show. That's a very interesting story. But yeah, I mean what would you say? What where do you think was the first time it was like went over the line to ail?
00:30:10
Speaker 2: I mean for the husband. I think the first time was when he was cock blocking the wife. Yeah, that felt like it's like, hey, you're being a hypocrite here, like It's one thing to ask for an open marriage and start to test that out, but to not allow the wife to play by the same rules you're playing by seems really hypocritical and really insecure. Yeah, and then I think he just got progressively more Yeah.
00:30:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, throughout the story exactly, he's just amplified. It's snowballs.
00:30:36
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00:31:52
Speaker 1: Subscribed my son's in laws bandits from the, wedding, fine Then i'm evicting your daughter in mich writer.
00:32:00
Speaker 2: SON i feel like the punishment fits the. Crime you. KNOW i feel like if you don't invite your parents to your wedding and you're still living in their house rent, free then you gotta you gotta get your butt out of there, then you. KNOW i think it's like the ultimate insult. Too it is it is like you can't live here. ANYMORE i mean that it's like it would be bad if you went to your to your friend and be, like, hey like, sorry you can't come to the, Wedding like that would be. Bad but if you went to like your parents are like, YEAH i don't think it would be like a, fit you, know, like.
00:32:36
Speaker 1: YEAH i JUST i just don't think it's your, vibe you know WHAT i, Mean like we're gonna be playing like music you don't like eating like vegan.
00:32:43
Speaker 2: Stuff the. Guy let's see the guy from the office or off the space where it's, like, yeah the long the long haired, guy the guy the guy from office space that's like a dick is the movie or the? Movie, yeah a lumber like Mister. Lumberg, yeah he's like you Put, Yeah i'm gonna need you To.
00:33:07
Speaker 1: They should they should hire that guy to tell, them, like you're not invited to the. Way, yeah there's a guy a TikTok who does. That well you're not. Invited well he just delivers bad news like, hey h your wife is leaving you for the mail. Man, wow it's great. Content. Wow so my wife AND i bought a four bedroom house In pennsylvania that my son lives In. Nice our son went to college In pennsylvania and wanted to stay in the, area so it just made.
00:33:30
Speaker 2: Sense so free, living, great free living and free, loading that's. Right.
00:33:35
Speaker 1: Uh so we bought the house as a second. Home we live In New jersey and commute Into manhattan for. Work we figured that he would have a place to live and could visit every so often and we could spend some quality time.
00:33:45
Speaker 2: Together so, far so. Good, yeah it seems like the perfect. Setup the.
00:33:48
Speaker 1: Parents the parents are doing what they can for the baby. Boy we pay the, taxes services and maintenance on the, house and our son pays for his groceries and the house, utilities and so that's a pretty sweet fricking.
00:33:57
Speaker 2: Deal, yeah pay for his Grown it's, like, uh, yeah of course he graduated from.
00:34:04
Speaker 1: University, yeah, yeah he's LIKE i think he's going through. UNIVERSITY i guess at this point through.
00:34:09
Speaker 2: UNIVERSITY i feel like my parents help pay for my groceries WHEN i was going through.
00:34:14
Speaker 1: University but it's also not like, like oh my, gosh he pays for his, Groceries like you, know it's not like a huge flex, bro not a huge flex almost going well for a few, years and our son met a girl and they got, serious, serious, serious, serious.
00:34:31
Speaker 2: Serious about clapping down.
00:34:33
Speaker 1: Jerks now we met her and she seems nice enough when she's not getting, no.
00:34:41
Speaker 2: No, No then she's, naughty and then she's naughty not.
00:34:45
Speaker 1: Nice santa's got a brand new bag and you made the naughty.
00:34:49
Speaker 2: List you're gonna go directly Into santa's. Sack it ain't, cold BUT i got two lumps for. You let's just Say i'm gonna go through your chimney. Today, nice too. BAD i can barely fit with my.
00:35:09
Speaker 1: And and and here and here's what we just went, down like Full, christmas, dude full Christ.
00:35:15
Speaker 2: We're in the middle Of.
00:35:16
Speaker 1: July, yeah, yeah, yeah you, know it's like we're halfway. There we're halfway. There but then the big. Announcement they announce that they're, engaged and she moves into the house with our. Son so that's that's a big. Move it's a huge move getting engaged over. Here now for the problem the.
00:35:32
Speaker 2: Wedding, SEE i thought that would be like not the. PROBLEM i think that would be, like you, know all the wedding celebration and, yes, love when when the wedding is the, problem you, know something ain't.
00:35:45
Speaker 1: Right of, course we hold a little get to know you barbecue at Our pennsylvania. House my son and daughter are, there as are our son's fiance and her parents and. Sisters. Cool we all seem to beginning along. Well my, wife daughter and the fiance go into the house along with her mother and, sisters and my, son.
00:36:01
Speaker 2: A lot of, family big.
00:36:03
Speaker 1: FAMILY a few minutes, later my wife and daughter come out and they're really. Upset what. Happened they come over and tell me that we're leaving and driving back To New.
00:36:12
Speaker 2: Jersey, okay WHY i try to find out what.
00:36:16
Speaker 1: Happened and once we got back To New, jersey they calmed down and they tell me that our son and his fiance's family don't want us at their own.
00:36:24
Speaker 2: Wedding how could you say, that, like like the balls on you to be LIKE i don't want you At it's? Insane, Yeah like that's what That that is the most ridiculous request. Ever.
00:36:36
Speaker 1: Now, now maybe if they were, like you, know we had we had a parents a few stories back that were like trying to say that they were trying to send them to like a mental institution to steal all their. Money, yeah if their parents are like, that then that makes. Sense but these parents are doing everything they can to support.
00:36:53
Speaker 2: You, yeah, yeah and they like they let you stay in the. House in the, House like what the man has not thought this. Through let's just say. That Good.
00:37:01
Speaker 1: God according to WHAT i was, called we're not there kind of.
00:37:06
Speaker 2: People what does that? Mean what does that? Mean like are they like really smelly or something or like like covered in.
00:37:14
Speaker 1: Shit it's like like.
00:37:18
Speaker 2: And just roll around in feces like like like even if you had rolled around in vces and you smelled the high, oven just like put a shower up into hose them down before they. Go they're walking you down the. Aisle have a spray with some suns and some. Water it's gonna be like one of those like like drive through. Carts, LITERALLY i was. LIVID i called my son and asked him what the heck this was all. About he tells me that her family feel that we are not good enough and will embarrass them at a family, wedding and that we are all uninvited from the. Wedding Whmbarrass? HOW i want to know? HOW i want to know?
00:37:59
Speaker 1: How so not good?
00:38:01
Speaker 2: Enough that's? Crazy this needs to be like get his life in, check.
00:38:07
Speaker 1: Dude we need we need to create like we need to create A tv show where we create the worst people from Our reddit stories and just like like embarrass the.
00:38:14
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, yeah you know practical.
00:38:17
Speaker 1: Jokers NO i.
00:38:18
Speaker 2: Don't actually it's like this like classic prank show kind of like burped all prank. Shows, yeah and there's this one where they they basically like set up a fake prank show where they get people to like sign something, right and then they just go like when they when LIKE i think they sit on a whoope, cushion just like something super, dumb and then a whole live band comes, in like like a big ass like baby comes in and it says you're a dumb, Fuck you're a dumb. Fuck and then a guy comes out and says you're on dumb fucksum. Fuck but then the person starts crying, yeah and the guy who's like like making them like like like like like driving, Them, yeah uh is actually getting pranked because they hired a professional actor to cry on the spot and so he's the one getting. Pranked it's a reverse.
00:39:12
Speaker 1: Prank Uno CARSE i like the reverse, prank LIKE i would do, it you know how they like watching the trailer like the other person getting.
00:39:19
Speaker 2: PRANKED i would have like just.
00:39:21
Speaker 1: Some like frickin muscleman just like like like arm, sports like bust down the door and then just start like there's like another producer sitting next to.
00:39:30
Speaker 2: Them and they'd be like you owe.
00:39:32
Speaker 1: Me fifty thousand dollars and just try to attack them and that person just like holy.
00:39:37
Speaker 2: Shit, yeah like they think they're watching the. Prank, yeah but literally they know that they are the.
00:39:42
Speaker 1: Prank back back to back to our our protagonists.
00:39:45
Speaker 2: Who are not being. Pranked this is sadly, reality sad.
00:39:48
Speaker 1: REALITY i little week go by to call myself, down and THEN i drive back to The pennsylvania. House the new future in laws are in the house along with the. Fiance it appears they've all moved into the house. House what so you uninvite me from the wedding and now you live in my, house all of, them all of, them the parents.
00:40:07
Speaker 2: TOO i don't understand how they think that this family will embarrass them at the, Wedding like they they are embarrass, yeah like they have like a house to live.
00:40:18
Speaker 1: In like, guys, guys we don't want to embarrass, Us so we're just gonna live in your house and and use your credit cards and like because you just be too, Embarrassing like it would just be too.
00:40:27
Speaker 2: Embarrassing LIKE i, GET i, mean this is it would be. Terrible BUT i could understand if like the other family was super rich or, something and then it was like you can't come to the wedding because you're a bunch of, hicks, right like so terrible some sort of like that like, reason, yeah like but that no reason makes? Reason but what the heck is the? Reason there's not even any logic behind, it like they have NO i don't. UNDERSTAND i really want to, know LIKE i want to, yea sit them, down say what the fuck is going? On they asked me What i'm doing? There, GEE i own the.
00:40:56
Speaker 1: House i've told them that since we aren't. INVITED i was coming over to talk to my. Son they tell me to leave their.
00:41:04
Speaker 2: House. Ridiculous we're about. It we're about to live the other shoes about to. Draw are you, Ready? Sam we're fully cocked and loaded over. Here i'm ready to be cocked. COCKED i lost.
00:41:17
Speaker 1: IT i told them that they had thirty days to get the.
00:41:22
Speaker 2: F outs a lot.
00:41:24
Speaker 1: Very generous over. HERE i told my Son i'm selling the house and he could find somewhere else to live with all of. THEM i go to realtor in town and list the house for.
00:41:34
Speaker 2: Sale, wow that was, Quick.
00:41:36
Speaker 1: Daddy ain't playing. Around they call my son at work and tell him WHAT i. Said apparently they thought he owned the. House how the tables have turned jokes on?
00:41:46
Speaker 2: You?
00:41:47
Speaker 1: Now who's?
00:41:48
Speaker 2: Embarrassing how did they think he owns? It he's in. College he listened To Gary Vee yeah and to THE.
00:41:56
Speaker 3: I decided to fuck my parents and, LIKE i got a, house bro WHAT i turned this paper clip and then went to a garage sale and bought a little kiddie pool and then sold it as an.
00:42:08
Speaker 1: Nfty fuck your, parents your parents don't. Sleep he calls me and asks me Why i'm selling the. HOUSE i told HIM i paid for it along with the taxes on, it so it's.
00:42:22
Speaker 2: Mine damn, straight the only answer you.
00:42:25
Speaker 1: Need he was living there rent, free but since he decided he doesn't want us in his new fancy schmancy, life he has to get.
00:42:35
Speaker 2: Out punishment fits the.
00:42:36
Speaker 1: Crime, yeah it. DOES i tell him the same AS i told his future in. Laws he has thirty days to get, out and Then i'll get my lawyer and get them. Evicted. Shit so the question, is so the question is AM i the a hole for taking this hard stance on? Them he is my, son but the in laws seemed to take over and we no longer.
00:42:56
Speaker 2: COUNT i, mean he needs to learn a. Lesson, honestly this is this is the exact appropriate. Punishment this is reality hitting it like sitting in right, right like, like oh you think like you think that you're better than. Us, now well let's let's let's, see let's see if you can fend for.
00:43:11
Speaker 1: Yourself yeah you know, What yeah go go buy, go go buy a mansion with all you're clearly like so much better than, us better at making money and all that.
00:43:18
Speaker 2: Stuff then go go be better and buy a. House go do. It fuck that, guy