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His white chessela roll up outside, man, and uh you
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old tea. Matt gets out with his fedora on his
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glasses and he walks up to the studio door and
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on my cold crap.
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You know.
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And we're chatting and stuff and he says it's it's
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become famous now. He says, listen, man, I know you're
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talking to a lot of other labels, but we wanna.
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We want to throw our hat. We wanna we want
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to work with you. So this is me throwing my
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hat in the rain. And it took fedora off and
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tossed it on the table.
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He took the hat on. Coming from the Pride of
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Pike County, Indiana. Now you're in eastern Pennsylvania. You've hit
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all the hotspots this week.
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All the hotspots, man, all the major metro areas.
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Is Michael from Cochrane Company. Can I just call you
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Cochrane or do I have to call you Michael?
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No, you can call I've been called a lot worse,
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so that works.
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You're gonna be performing Saturday, June seventh at night Vision
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twenty twenty five. You're gonna be sharing the stage with Crowder,
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Taya and Tyrian. Have you ever been to Grand Junction, Colorado.
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I am not I've never been to western Colorado at all,
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so I'm pretty jazz.
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Okay. So last year it was like one hundred and
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three degrees and one hundred percent humidity right around the
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same time that you're going to be playing, So that beautiful,
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beautiful hair of yours is going to be very sweaty
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for the people of Colorado.
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You know, dude, I realized something recently. I went to
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Caribbean cruise recently and it is so hot. I realized
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that I'm built for like an elastin cre so I'm
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built in the north, maybe so, but Colorado gets cold
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in the winter.
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So it's just crazy how hot.
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It can get and how holy it can be in
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the same region in the same year.
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The first the first time I did night vision with
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the media department was like ten years ago, and I
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was like, this is hotter than the desert. They're like, well,
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it's high desert. I'm like, should have told me that
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before I signed up to come out here and do this. Yeah,
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So I want to. I want to I want to
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make management, I want to make record labels happy. You
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got a brand news single out that came out we're recently.
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Love is a fight? You want to talk about that
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real quick?
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Yeah, man, I wrote that song for my wife in
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honor of our ten year anniversary and just really to
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encourage everybody in their marriage. I say it all the time.
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Marriage is not an easy thing. It's not easy to
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have a God honoring marriage. I think that the world
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system and the enemy is just kind of set up
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against it, against you know, people getting along in a marriage,
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you know, and so it's sometimes it's a fight, but
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it's not a fight against each other. It's a fight
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for each other. And that's what the song's all about,
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you know. It's a choice to choose to love each
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other every day a day in and day out, and
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to fight for each other and to fight for your marriage.
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And so I just wanted to write a love song
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from a Christian perspective. I don't think there's enough.
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Of those, you know, absolutely, and you your marriage is
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a little bit different than most probably of your listeners
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because your wife in Cochrane and Company, both legally through
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marriage and also in a band.
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Yeah, I don't know she knew it all she was
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signing up for it, but yeah, she we've been able
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to tour together now full time for almost five years.
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It's been tremendous.
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But it comes with its own pressures, you know, as
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anybody that works with their spouse can tell you, it's
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sometimes hard to take off the the work hat and
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and keep on the husband and wife, you know, care
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for each other.
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So it's it's ninety nine percent.
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I tell people, it's ninety nine percent unbelievable, right, and
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then it's the other one percent of like, all right,
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we got figure this out.
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Now, maybe I should have your wife here for this,
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Like when you when you're writing the new album, you're like,
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I got this jam like this, this is the song
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that's gonna set the people free. Does your wife ever
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go no, no, no, no.
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I mean yeah, she is definitely honest.
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She's definitely honest, and I can always count on her
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honest opinion. And I really value that because every times,
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you know, sometimes you get in this place for like
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latest is greatest, Like whatever you've just written is like
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this is the and so she's more levelheaded and she's
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not near you know, as like gut reaction, so she'll
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be like, I don't know if it's as good as
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you think it is, you know, whatever she says.
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It much more gentle than that.
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But yeah, So you have a song that came out
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a few years ago, Church and it's currently at almost
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one hundred million streams just on Spotify. Wow. Being a
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kid from Pike County, Indiana, the hotbed of music, did
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you ever sit here and think there'd be a hundred
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million people on one app that would listen to my song?
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No?
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Man, never thought it. Music was always just like a
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love language for me. It was never I never thought
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anything would come a bit as a career or any
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anything like that.
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You know.
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So the fact that people listen to the music like that,
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I mean, it's it's just it's unreal, it really is.
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How did you get started in music?
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Man?
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You know?
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Kind of it kind of was just like in my
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upbringing a lot. I realized when I was about four
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or five and I was not gonna make it to
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the NBA, and uh so, so my my interest started
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to pivot, you know. But my my dad loved music
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so much. My grandparents were like church like they sang
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in people's weddings and funerals and all that stuff, you know,
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And but my.
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Dad like it was a passion for him.
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Where it was like he was always playing me classic
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seventies singer songwrider music. And he had a good friend
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that was a former radio DJ that would like make
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me a little mixtape just homework to like listen to,
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you know, Van Morris's greatest hits or like just whatever
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you know, Billy Joel and Jackson Brown and all this stuff.
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So it's kind of just in me and it just
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really grabbed my heart.
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When I got into middle school and I joined a
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band with some of my friends and I played drums
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and rock band and that was my first taste of
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the road and music, you know, as like a more
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than like, you know, a hobby, but like a cool
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hobby that dreamed about like maybe this would one day
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be something. And so when I you know, fast forward
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telling me, I'm a senior in high school getting to
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start college and I'm writing songs now on the piano
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and I'm singing some and people are telling me it's good,
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and you know, uh, I will say, I think a
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lot of a lot of my map now comes from
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my small town upbringing, because like the small town is
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so good at believing in people, right. It just it
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really is like when you when you show any even
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like a just a little ray of light of talent,
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like a small town gets behind.
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It's like this is our guy. He's gonna do it,
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you know, and like I just I don't know.
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So, I mean, we put a band together and we
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started getting asked to play places, and that circle in
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our area expanded more regionally, and then before you know it, it
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was the Midwest.
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And then if a big band like Newsboys or somebody's
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coming through the town sometimes they would let us open.
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And that just LEDs doors being opened and led to
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meeting a manager manager Inville.
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And shout out to Derek Bruner de yeah uh.
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And you know, just just just really it was like
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so much hurry up and wait.
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And then because I tried forever.
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To send stuff to places, and you know, sending best
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kits and different things to record labels and you know
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all that with the and and then all of a
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sudden God just starts to open these doors and it's
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just boom boom boom boom boom. Things I can never imagine.
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And then all of a sudden, Toby Mack is sitting
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in the studio with me telling me that he wants
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to sign this to his record label, and and you
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know there's other labels involved, and he's like.
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Look, man, you know, we want to put up a
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fight and we want to get you, we want to
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work with you.
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And so just surreal man, surreal put out music fast,
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and here we are.
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How does a very talented boy, but a boy from
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Pike County, Indiana get on the radar of Toby mac
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Joey the goateee guys man?
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Uh?
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You know a lot of it came through my manager, Derek.
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When I met Derek, it was actually had a Ryan Stevens.
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To show shout out to Ryan.
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Steve said, yes, I'd let us open for a couple
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of dates in Indiana. And I saw this dude standing
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side stage. I was wearing all black, and I was like,
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that dude's from Nashville.
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He's in the industry, you know.
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And so I just went up and talked to him
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and I was like, hey, man, I'm Michael and he was like, hey, I'm.
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Part of Ryan's management team.
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I was like, well, dude, would you just watch my
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show tonight and just here's my card, Like would you
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just email me your thoughts?
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Like that's all I want.
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Just email me some critiques and things I could work on,
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you know, to better myself. And I didn't think he
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would do it, you know, and then Monday morning, sure enough,
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he sent me an email.
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Of like bullet points of like hey man, I love this,
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I love this.
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Here's what you can work on this, this, this, And
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then he starting a conversation.
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With just like what's your bones? What are you trying
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to do?
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And that led to a longer conversation Faust forward, We're
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down in Nashville. I ended up working with them at
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First Company Management, and they were taking these label meetings and.
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All these labels to getting involved, and we're you.
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Know, step one for a lot of these big labels
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like Capitol and Sony and probably all these places is like,
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let's get you with our producers. Let's get you in
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a room with our riders. And so I'm doing that
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and some of these writers are connected to all kinds
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of people and these producers.
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And one of those producers named.
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Brian Fatherer was finishing up a Toby mac record at
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that time, where had just finished it up, and so
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he's playing Toby some stuff. He's like, here's what I've
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been working on some other people, here's this you know,
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new guy that you know has come my way, and
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Toby's like, oh shoot.
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You know.
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It was a song called Church that Brian and I
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had written, and Toby came to the studio the next
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day for my session.
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So I just see this this.
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White Testa'll roll up outside then and uh, you know,
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t Matt gets out with his Fedora on his glasses
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and he walks.
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Up to the studio door, you know, and I'm like,
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hold crap, you.
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Know, and we're chatting and stuff, and he says, it's
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it's become famous now. He says, listen, man, I know
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you're talking to a lot of other labels, but we
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wanna we want to throw our hat.
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We want to we want to work with you. So
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this is me throwing my hat in the ring. And
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it took this Foredora off, toss it on the table.
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He took the hat off.
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Took the hat off man.
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Two years ago. Two years ago, Toby played night Vision.
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He headlined of course the whole day, walking backstage everything.
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Never once saw him without his hat or his glasses
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on it.
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Yeah, yeah, he took it off. Man took the hat offs.
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And that's the women knew it was serious.
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Yeah, that that's like a blood oa, it's right there,
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especially in Nashville. So is one of the reasons why
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you refuse to move to Nashville because you're wearing a
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white shirt? Is that because you're just like I just
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can't wear black shirts living in Nashville.
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This is my shirt, bro, Dang dude, look at that?
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Look at that? Oh?
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Is that is that like like real authentic?
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Or I got it off the Ebays?
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So okay, yeah, I mean, who's the way.
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It could be a Chinese repor car could.
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and key shirt, you know, so that probably is, man.
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But yeah, you know, I just I love Nashville. I
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love the people, I love the energy. But there's just
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something about the small town for me, right I think
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I'm just I'm I got too much melon camp running
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through my b you know, like, I just it's a
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small town for me.
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Man, And I don't know, you know, maybe maybe I
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don't know with the future holds, but there's something about.
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Coming coming home and being off the road and just
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driving through the cornfields and like just the sunsets and
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just getting my head right, like it does it for
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me you know right. You probably people need the oceans,
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so people need the mountains, and that's what I need.
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You're probably not sitting in traffic like we are here.
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In Nashville, nonutes, how you slice it in Indiana.
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Man, So has it always been named Cochrane and Company
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or was there like when you were starting off, was
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there some bad band names like for Forgiven, Redemptive something
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like that.
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It was Michael Cochran and in like two thy eleven,
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you know, right out of high school, and then it
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and then it was just Michael Cockran for a while,
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short and sweet and then actually we were playing this
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little festival, uh somewhere in probably Illinois or something, and
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the promoter guy that was introducing us was like, up next,
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you forgot our name, forgot my name, I think, And
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he was like, up next, Uh, we got some good
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boot boys you're Cockering and Company gonna play for you.
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And after the show we were like, oh, that's kind
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of cool, to be honest with you.
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We just kept it, man, We just kept Cockering the company.
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So you're currently on tour right now with Matt Peell,
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who's he's played night Vision and John Reddick And how's
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that tour been going for you guys?
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Man, It's been great. It's been great on and off
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stage has been really great. The chemistry is great, the
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vibe is great, and the crowds has been really great.
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I can't say enough good things about it, man. I mean,
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it's a it's a really solid build. The music is great,
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and people are I can just tell people are leaving.
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Really filled up, you know. So it's all we can
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ask for.
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And Matt Pala's kind of a goat as well, you.
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Know, absolutely, Yeah, Yeah, he's he's he's been around, He's
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climbed the mountain for sure.
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And then you have your own tour, the Running Home
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Tour starting in late April. That's just getting you warmed
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up for night Vision in June. And you got Megan
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Woods coming out with you and Mackenzie Phillips and Megan
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Woods right now is like all over radio. So that's
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that's gonna be a really cool tour for anybody who
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wants to go to. If you're watching this from Colorado,
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go to South Burlington, Vermont. It's just a quick little
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seven hour flight. You gotta stop probably like three four times.
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It's gonna be great though.
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That's yeah.
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Just don't get don't get shanked or anything, and then
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just head on over to South Burlington, Vermont. I've got
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a few more questions for you. So you're gonna be
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a night vision. You can get VIP tickets to go
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stand in an air conditioning tent and meet them. But
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do you also do autographs? Will you be will you
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just be doing general autographs so the fans can maybe
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see that the garment and key shirt in person.
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Absolutely, I'll be doing autographs. I'll be signing stuff.
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You know, I only signed things from my merch table, right,
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I'm just kidding up there. Hey, I'll sign you go,
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you know, Yeah, I just that's my parts about it
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is saying hey to people, meeting people and hearing their story.
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So for sure, only high dollar items. Will he sign
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if you come with if you come with your arm,
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he's not signing it, all right.
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Look bringing a sticker pat down it's a vinyl or nothing.
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Have you gotten into the vinyl thing at all?
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Yeah?
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Man, I've got a nice vinyl collection and we sell
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our stuff on vinyl.
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I think we're out. I think the first.
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Pressing of our Running Home Vinyl is out right now,
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but we're hoping.
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To get more.
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Just had a Christmas record, Shamless Plug, come out last year.
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It's on vinyl, and I don't tell you Christmas music
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sounds best on vinyls it does.
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It does seem very Christmasy to just put the put
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the vinyl on with the Christmas tree with your wife
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hot Coco and just listen to Cochrane, Just listen to
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Michael saying to you. Actually, my associated pastor at my
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church told me that your Christmas album is like his
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favorite of all time. So shout out to Pastor Jonathan,
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but he told me that your Christmas album was amazing.
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So you're gonna be on Saturday. You're gonna be with
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Arrian and KB, Teya and Crowder. Have you have you
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done anything, Well, you've probably done stuff with Terran. I'm sure.
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I've done a lot with Terrian. She's fantastic. I mean,
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from the moment I first heard her saying, I was like,
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she's a star. So just amount of time for her
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and we're seeing it, you know, crowded. Uh what an
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interesting bird, dude. I love that guy. I love tour
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with him. We've done a few tours with him. Actually,
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I don't know if you know this. I was able
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to co write his current single with him, so somebody
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prays yeah out on Hitstep.
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A couple of years ago. I had the idea and.
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I just badging him about it, and finally he we
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wrote it. You know, I was like, hey, man, we
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need a Rockney Rogney runs.
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So finally we went on. We wrote the song.
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The Masters was on the TV and is in his
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boss and he were just chilling and writing a song.
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And uh, Taya, I talked about the Arctic Fox from
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Crowded Kennys and any experience with Kenny Rogers the Arctic Fox.
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I mean I've seen him make several appearances.
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Yeah, and I also saw him incarnated in one of
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Crowder's recent videos.
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Okay, So when I was interviewing Taya, you know she's
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got that she's got that accent from Australia, and she goes,
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you just got to watch for the Fox. But I
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thought she said something else.
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I was like, wait what, And I was like, oh,
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she's talking about Crowder's Arctic Fox. Okay, So Tyrian gonna
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be interviewing her, but she's gonna be coming with the
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youth energy and KB.
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I don't know if you've seen KB before, but he
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brings like sweatshirt or a jacket out and then he
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he tells the crowd when he swings it, when it
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hits the ground, everybody's gotta jump and go crazy. Taya
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has vowed to bring head banging and her and her
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baby on stage.
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Crowd.
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Crowd has got the Arctic Fox. What what are we
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gonna do different than everybody else? What can I help
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you with right now? I mean, what are we gonna
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do that's gonna compete with a jacket hitting the ground,
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a two year old running on stage screaming, and a
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fake Arctic Fox? What can night Vision expect from you?
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I mean, we're just gonna, okay, there you go.
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We're gonna we're gonna throw it down. I'm gonna jam
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for the lamb dude.
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And I gotta say before this interview, I noticed your merchandise.
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And let me just tell y'all, bring your money credit cards.
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I'm sure it brings credit. You know you accept credit cards.
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You got some pretty dope merch man.
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Oh, thank you very much.
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Yeah, we're gonna have to I'm gonna have to snatch
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one of those. I gotta ask you because I asked
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on I asked on Instagram a night vision live on
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Instagram for people to say question. So I got, I got,
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I got a good question. I got rid of the
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whole like what's your favorite breakfast or whatever? But somebody
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asked me, who is it? Nicole from Fort Collins asked,
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who is Jesus to you?
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M savior, Savior, Lord, but more recently discovering the depths
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of who he is as my shepherd.
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You know, I think it took me a long time
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to to get to that point in my walk where
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I really, I really understand Jesus as the gentle shepherd.
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So I just encourage everyone to dig into those passages
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of Scripture.
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I mean, it's good and healthy for us to see
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Jesus as the Lord of our lives and in control
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and on the throne, and you know, but it's I
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think it's also so good for us to know him
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as as tender and gentle.
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And and just truly caring for us deeply. So that's
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that's what Jesus is to me. Everything.
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He's everything that'll pass that that answer passes, you know,
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because sometimes you know, you got to worry about asking
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people who's Jesus and they give you that blank look
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like yeah, yeah, yeah, God, not not with any of
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these artists, but in the past. Yeah no, it's all
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It's all good here.
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Uh.
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And lastly, I was asked to ask you what what
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advice would you give to somebody who wants to get
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into the Christian music industry or worship.
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Oh wow, I always struggle giving this advice because everybody's
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path is so different than I don't know.
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Move to Pike County.
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Yeah, yeah, I would just I would just say find
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find your voice, find your musical voice, and find what
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it is that you feel like you need to say
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and have something to say, and then spend just as
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much time being good at telling that story as you
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do trying to like convince people that you're good.
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In the age of social media, so many people just
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want to make videos and throw them up and whatever
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or whatever whatever it's like, but really really hone your craft,
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home what you're doing, be the best version of what
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you can do, and then share it with people.
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I think.
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And what else do you have coming after? After the
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mac Powell tour and then your own tour, the Running
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Home tour and then night Vision what do you have
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coming up for the rest of this year? Can we
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not talk about that yet? Should we just subscribe to
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you on Instagram and wait for it to drop?
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Yeah, We've got a lot of shows this summer all
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across the US, and then we've got a new album.
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It's gonna come out into this summer with some other
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songs dropping here and there.
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Reading up to it, I think it's the best music
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that we've ever put out, and I'm so excited about it.
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And then we've got a big.
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Tour this fall that we can't announce the details yet,
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but we're gonna be going a lot of cool places,
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so you'll follow along and stay tuned.
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And lastly, this is We're gonna go viral with this one, Okay,
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you and I We're going viral? All right. You're on
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goatee owned by Toby Mack, one of the owners of
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of of d C Talk. Have you heard about a
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DC Talk reunion and are you Are you like in
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the running to take like either Kevin or Tate's place
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if there is a reunit, Man, I don't know.
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There's always talk about it, you know, I just knowing
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those guys, I don't think that they would shut the.
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Notion down at the time.
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He was right, right, right.
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But but yeah, I have I have no idea where
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their heads are at with that. I mean, look, you
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look at creed Man.
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Yeah, the reunion of a lifetime, right, So maybe it's
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in the area.
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You never know.
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So what you're saying is that you'll take Michael Tate's spot, right,
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You're you're the new Cochrane Tate.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I've been thinking about just like shaving this part
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of my hair too, to get ready for it.
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And then you know, you could do that for a
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few years, then join the newsboys and then come back
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and do Cochran like I got. I got the whole
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thing planned for you right now, Michael, Michael, we thank you.
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We can't wait to see you at night Vision when
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you do autographs for expensive items only and you bring
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your sweaty hair. Thank you for your time and we
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will see you in June.
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Hey, thanks so much man, good talking to you. See
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you guys,
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His white chessela roll up outside, man, and uh you
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old tea. Matt gets out with his fedora on his
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glasses and he walks up to the studio door and
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on my cold crap.
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And we're chatting and stuff and he says it's it's
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become famous now. He says, listen, man, I know you're
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talking to a lot of other labels, but we wanna.
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We want to throw our hat. We wanna we want
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to work with you. So this is me throwing my
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hat in the rain. And it took fedora off and
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tossed it on the table.
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He took the hat on. Coming from the Pride of
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Pike County, Indiana. Now you're in eastern Pennsylvania. You've hit
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all the hotspots this week.
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All the hotspots, man, all the major metro areas.
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Is Michael from Cochrane Company. Can I just call you
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Cochrane or do I have to call you Michael?
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No, you can call I've been called a lot worse,
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so that works.
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You're gonna be performing Saturday, June seventh at night Vision
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twenty twenty five. You're gonna be sharing the stage with Crowder,
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Taya and Tyrian. Have you ever been to Grand Junction, Colorado.
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I am not I've never been to western Colorado at all,
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so I'm pretty jazz.
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Okay. So last year it was like one hundred and
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three degrees and one hundred percent humidity right around the
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same time that you're going to be playing, So that beautiful,
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beautiful hair of yours is going to be very sweaty
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for the people of Colorado.
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You know, dude, I realized something recently. I went to
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Caribbean cruise recently and it is so hot. I realized
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that I'm built for like an elastin cre so I'm
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built in the north, maybe so, but Colorado gets cold
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in the winter.
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So it's just crazy how hot.
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the same region in the same year.
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The first the first time I did night vision with
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the media department was like ten years ago, and I
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was like, this is hotter than the desert. They're like, well,
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it's high desert. I'm like, should have told me that
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before I signed up to come out here and do this. Yeah,
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So I want to. I want to I want to
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make management, I want to make record labels happy. You
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got a brand news single out that came out we're recently.
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Love is a fight? You want to talk about that
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real quick?
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Yeah, man, I wrote that song for my wife in
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honor of our ten year anniversary and just really to
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encourage everybody in their marriage. I say it all the time.
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Marriage is not an easy thing. It's not easy to
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have a God honoring marriage. I think that the world
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system and the enemy is just kind of set up
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against it, against you know, people getting along in a marriage,
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you know, and so it's sometimes it's a fight, but
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it's not a fight against each other. It's a fight
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for each other. And that's what the song's all about,
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you know. It's a choice to choose to love each
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other every day a day in and day out, and
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to fight for each other and to fight for your marriage.
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from a Christian perspective. I don't think there's enough.
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Of those, you know, absolutely, and you your marriage is
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a little bit different than most probably of your listeners
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because your wife in Cochrane and Company, both legally through
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marriage and also in a band.
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signing up for it, but yeah, she we've been able
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to tour together now full time for almost five years.
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It's been tremendous.
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anybody that works with their spouse can tell you, it's
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sometimes hard to take off the the work hat and
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and keep on the husband and wife, you know, care
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for each other.
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So it's it's ninety nine percent.
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I tell people, it's ninety nine percent unbelievable, right, and
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then it's the other one percent of like, all right,
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we got figure this out.
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Now, maybe I should have your wife here for this,
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I got this jam like this, this is the song
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that's gonna set the people free. Does your wife ever
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go no, no, no, no.
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She's definitely honest, and I can always count on her
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honest opinion. And I really value that because every times,
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you know, sometimes you get in this place for like
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latest is greatest, Like whatever you've just written is like
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this is the and so she's more levelheaded and she's
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not near you know, as like gut reaction, so she'll
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be like, I don't know if it's as good as
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you think it is, you know, whatever she says.
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a few years ago, Church and it's currently at almost
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one hundred million streams just on Spotify. Wow. Being a
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kid from Pike County, Indiana, the hotbed of music, did
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you ever sit here and think there'd be a hundred
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million people on one app that would listen to my song?
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Man, never thought it. Music was always just like a
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love language for me. It was never I never thought
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anything would come a bit as a career or any
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anything like that.
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How did you get started in music?
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upbringing a lot. I realized when I was about four
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or five and I was not gonna make it to
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the NBA, and uh so, so my my interest started
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to pivot, you know. But my my dad loved music
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so much. My grandparents were like church like they sang
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in people's weddings and funerals and all that stuff, you know,
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seventies singer songwrider music. And he had a good friend
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that was a former radio DJ that would like make
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me a little mixtape just homework to like listen to,
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you know, Van Morris's greatest hits or like just whatever
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you know, Billy Joel and Jackson Brown and all this stuff.
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really grabbed my heart.
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band with some of my friends and I played drums
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the road and music, you know, as like a more
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than like, you know, a hobby, but like a cool
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hobby that dreamed about like maybe this would one day
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be something. And so when I you know, fast forward
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telling me, I'm a senior in high school getting to
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start college and I'm writing songs now on the piano
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and I'm singing some and people are telling me it's good,
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lot of a lot of my map now comes from
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my small town upbringing, because like the small town is
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so good at believing in people, right. It just it
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really is like when you when you show any even
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like a just a little ray of light of talent,
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like a small town gets behind.
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you know, and like I just I don't know.
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started getting asked to play places, and that circle in
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our area expanded more regionally, and then before you know it, it
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was the Midwest.
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coming through the town sometimes they would let us open.
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meeting a manager manager Inville.
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so much hurry up and wait.
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kits and different things to record labels and you know
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all that with the and and then all of a
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sudden God just starts to open these doors and it's
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just boom boom boom boom boom. Things I can never imagine.
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in the studio with me telling me that he wants
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to sign this to his record label, and and you
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know there's other labels involved, and he's like.
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fight and we want to get you, we want to
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work with you.
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and here we are.
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How does a very talented boy, but a boy from
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Pike County, Indiana get on the radar of Toby mac
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Joey the goateee guys man?
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of dates in Indiana. And I saw this dude standing
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side stage. I was wearing all black, and I was like,
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that dude's from Nashville.
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He's in the industry, you know.
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and I was like, hey, man, I'm Michael and he was like, hey, I'm.
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I was like, well, dude, would you just watch my
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show tonight and just here's my card, Like would you
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just email me your thoughts?
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Like that's all I want.
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Just email me some critiques and things I could work on,
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you know, to better myself. And I didn't think he
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would do it, you know, and then Monday morning, sure enough,
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he sent me an email.
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Of like bullet points of like hey man, I love this,
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then he starting a conversation.
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With just like what's your bones? What are you trying
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down in Nashville. I ended up working with them at
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First Company Management, and they were taking these label meetings and.
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All these labels to getting involved, and we're you.
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like Capitol and Sony and probably all these places is like,
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let's get you with our producers. Let's get you in
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a room with our riders. And so I'm doing that
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and some of these writers are connected to all kinds
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of people and these producers.
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Brian Fatherer was finishing up a Toby mac record at
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that time, where had just finished it up, and so
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he's playing Toby some stuff. He's like, here's what I've
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been working on some other people, here's this you know,
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new guy that you know has come my way, and
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Toby's like, oh shoot.
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It was a song called Church that Brian and I
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had written, and Toby came to the studio the next
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day for my session.
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White Testa'll roll up outside then and uh, you know,
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t Matt gets out with his Fedora on his glasses
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hold crap, you.
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Know, and we're chatting and stuff, and he says, it's
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it's become famous now. He says, listen, man, I know
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you're talking to a lot of other labels, but we
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wanna we want to throw our hat.
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We want to we want to work with you. So
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this is me throwing my hat in the ring. And
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it took this Foredora off, toss it on the table.
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He took the hat off.
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Took the hat off man.
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He headlined of course the whole day, walking backstage everything.
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Yeah, yeah, he took it off. Man took the hat offs.
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And that's the women knew it was serious.
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Yeah, that that's like a blood oa, it's right there,
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especially in Nashville. So is one of the reasons why
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you refuse to move to Nashville because you're wearing a
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white shirt? Is that because you're just like I just
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can't wear black shirts living in Nashville.
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This is my shirt, bro, Dang dude, look at that?
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Look at that? Oh?
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Is that is that like like real authentic?
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Or I got it off the Ebays?
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So okay, yeah, I mean, who's the way.
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It could be a Chinese repor car could.
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and key shirt, you know, so that probably is, man.
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But yeah, you know, I just I love Nashville. I
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love the people, I love the energy. But there's just
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something about the small town for me, right I think
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I'm just I'm I got too much melon camp running
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small town for me.
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Man, And I don't know, you know, maybe maybe I
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don't know with the future holds, but there's something about.
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Coming coming home and being off the road and just
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driving through the cornfields and like just the sunsets and
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just getting my head right, like it does it for
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me you know right. You probably people need the oceans,
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so people need the mountains, and that's what I need.
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You're probably not sitting in traffic like we are here.
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In Nashville, nonutes, how you slice it in Indiana.
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Man, So has it always been named Cochrane and Company
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or was there like when you were starting off, was
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there some bad band names like for Forgiven, Redemptive something
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like that.
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It was Michael Cochran and in like two thy eleven,
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you know, right out of high school, and then it
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and then it was just Michael Cockran for a while,
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short and sweet and then actually we were playing this
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little festival, uh somewhere in probably Illinois or something, and
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the promoter guy that was introducing us was like, up next,
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you forgot our name, forgot my name, I think, And
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he was like, up next, Uh, we got some good
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boot boys you're Cockering and Company gonna play for you.
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And after the show we were like, oh, that's kind
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of cool, to be honest with you.
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We just kept it, man, We just kept Cockering the company.
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So you're currently on tour right now with Matt Peell,
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who's he's played night Vision and John Reddick And how's
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that tour been going for you guys?
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Man, It's been great. It's been great on and off
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stage has been really great. The chemistry is great, the
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vibe is great, and the crowds has been really great.
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I can't say enough good things about it, man. I mean,
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it's a it's a really solid build. The music is great,
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and people are I can just tell people are leaving.
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Really filled up, you know. So it's all we can
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ask for.
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And Matt Pala's kind of a goat as well, you.
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Know, absolutely, Yeah, Yeah, he's he's he's been around, He's
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climbed the mountain for sure.
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And then you have your own tour, the Running Home
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Tour starting in late April. That's just getting you warmed
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up for night Vision in June. And you got Megan
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Woods coming out with you and Mackenzie Phillips and Megan
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Woods right now is like all over radio. So that's
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that's gonna be a really cool tour for anybody who
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wants to go to. If you're watching this from Colorado,
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go to South Burlington, Vermont. It's just a quick little
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seven hour flight. You gotta stop probably like three four times.
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It's gonna be great though.
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That's yeah.
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Just don't get don't get shanked or anything, and then
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just head on over to South Burlington, Vermont. I've got
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a few more questions for you. So you're gonna be
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a night vision. You can get VIP tickets to go
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stand in an air conditioning tent and meet them. But
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do you also do autographs? Will you be will you
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just be doing general autographs so the fans can maybe
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see that the garment and key shirt in person.
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Absolutely, I'll be doing autographs. I'll be signing stuff.
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You know, I only signed things from my merch table, right,
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I'm just kidding up there. Hey, I'll sign you go,
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you know, Yeah, I just that's my parts about it
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is saying hey to people, meeting people and hearing their story.
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So for sure, only high dollar items. Will he sign
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if you come with if you come with your arm,
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he's not signing it, all right.
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Look bringing a sticker pat down it's a vinyl or nothing.
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Have you gotten into the vinyl thing at all?
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Yeah?
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Man, I've got a nice vinyl collection and we sell
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our stuff on vinyl.
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I think we're out. I think the first.
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Pressing of our Running Home Vinyl is out right now,
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but we're hoping.
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To get more.
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Just had a Christmas record, Shamless Plug, come out last year.
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It's on vinyl, and I don't tell you Christmas music
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sounds best on vinyls it does.
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It does seem very Christmasy to just put the put
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the vinyl on with the Christmas tree with your wife
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hot Coco and just listen to Cochrane, Just listen to
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Michael saying to you. Actually, my associated pastor at my
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church told me that your Christmas album is like his
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favorite of all time. So shout out to Pastor Jonathan,
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but he told me that your Christmas album was amazing.
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So you're gonna be on Saturday. You're gonna be with
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Arrian and KB, Teya and Crowder. Have you have you
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done anything, Well, you've probably done stuff with Terran. I'm sure.
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I've done a lot with Terrian. She's fantastic. I mean,
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from the moment I first heard her saying, I was like,
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she's a star. So just amount of time for her
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and we're seeing it, you know, crowded. Uh what an
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interesting bird, dude. I love that guy. I love tour
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with him. We've done a few tours with him. Actually,
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I don't know if you know this. I was able
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to co write his current single with him, so somebody
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prays yeah out on Hitstep.
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A couple of years ago. I had the idea and.
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I just badging him about it, and finally he we
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wrote it. You know, I was like, hey, man, we
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need a Rockney Rogney runs.
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So finally we went on. We wrote the song.
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The Masters was on the TV and is in his
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boss and he were just chilling and writing a song.
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And uh, Taya, I talked about the Arctic Fox from
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Crowded Kennys and any experience with Kenny Rogers the Arctic Fox.
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I mean I've seen him make several appearances.
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Yeah, and I also saw him incarnated in one of
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Crowder's recent videos.
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Okay, So when I was interviewing Taya, you know she's
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got that she's got that accent from Australia, and she goes,
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you just got to watch for the Fox. But I
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thought she said something else.
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I was like, wait what, And I was like, oh,
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she's talking about Crowder's Arctic Fox. Okay, So Tyrian gonna
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be interviewing her, but she's gonna be coming with the
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youth energy and KB.
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I don't know if you've seen KB before, but he
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brings like sweatshirt or a jacket out and then he
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he tells the crowd when he swings it, when it
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hits the ground, everybody's gotta jump and go crazy. Taya
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has vowed to bring head banging and her and her
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baby on stage.
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Crowd.
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Crowd has got the Arctic Fox. What what are we
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gonna do different than everybody else? What can I help
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you with right now? I mean, what are we gonna
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do that's gonna compete with a jacket hitting the ground,
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a two year old running on stage screaming, and a
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fake Arctic Fox? What can night Vision expect from you?
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I mean, we're just gonna, okay, there you go.
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We're gonna we're gonna throw it down. I'm gonna jam
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for the lamb dude.
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And I gotta say before this interview, I noticed your merchandise.
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And let me just tell y'all, bring your money credit cards.
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I'm sure it brings credit. You know you accept credit cards.
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You got some pretty dope merch man.
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Oh, thank you very much.
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Yeah, we're gonna have to I'm gonna have to snatch
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one of those. I gotta ask you because I asked
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on I asked on Instagram a night vision live on
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Instagram for people to say question. So I got, I got,
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I got a good question. I got rid of the
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whole like what's your favorite breakfast or whatever? But somebody
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asked me, who is it? Nicole from Fort Collins asked,
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who is Jesus to you?
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M savior, Savior, Lord, but more recently discovering the depths
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of who he is as my shepherd.
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You know, I think it took me a long time
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to to get to that point in my walk where
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I really, I really understand Jesus as the gentle shepherd.
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So I just encourage everyone to dig into those passages
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of Scripture.
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I mean, it's good and healthy for us to see
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Jesus as the Lord of our lives and in control
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and on the throne, and you know, but it's I
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think it's also so good for us to know him
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as as tender and gentle.
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And and just truly caring for us deeply. So that's
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that's what Jesus is to me. Everything.
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He's everything that'll pass that that answer passes, you know,
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because sometimes you know, you got to worry about asking
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people who's Jesus and they give you that blank look
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like yeah, yeah, yeah, God, not not with any of
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these artists, but in the past. Yeah no, it's all
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It's all good here.
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Uh.
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And lastly, I was asked to ask you what what
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advice would you give to somebody who wants to get
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into the Christian music industry or worship.
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Oh wow, I always struggle giving this advice because everybody's
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path is so different than I don't know.
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Move to Pike County.
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Yeah, yeah, I would just I would just say find
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find your voice, find your musical voice, and find what
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it is that you feel like you need to say
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and have something to say, and then spend just as
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much time being good at telling that story as you
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do trying to like convince people that you're good.
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In the age of social media, so many people just
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want to make videos and throw them up and whatever
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or whatever whatever it's like, but really really hone your craft,
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home what you're doing, be the best version of what
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you can do, and then share it with people.
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I think.
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And what else do you have coming after? After the
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mac Powell tour and then your own tour, the Running
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Home tour and then night Vision what do you have
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coming up for the rest of this year? Can we
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not talk about that yet? Should we just subscribe to
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you on Instagram and wait for it to drop?
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Yeah, We've got a lot of shows this summer all
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across the US, and then we've got a new album.
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It's gonna come out into this summer with some other
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songs dropping here and there.
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Reading up to it, I think it's the best music
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that we've ever put out, and I'm so excited about it.
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And then we've got a big.
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Tour this fall that we can't announce the details yet,
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but we're gonna be going a lot of cool places,
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so you'll follow along and stay tuned.
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And lastly, this is We're gonna go viral with this one, Okay,
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you and I We're going viral? All right. You're on
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goatee owned by Toby Mack, one of the owners of
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of of d C Talk. Have you heard about a
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DC Talk reunion and are you Are you like in
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the running to take like either Kevin or Tate's place
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if there is a reunit, Man, I don't know.
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There's always talk about it, you know, I just knowing
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those guys, I don't think that they would shut the.
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Notion down at the time.
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He was right, right, right.
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But but yeah, I have I have no idea where
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their heads are at with that. I mean, look, you
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look at creed Man.
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Yeah, the reunion of a lifetime, right, So maybe it's
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in the area.
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You never know.
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So what you're saying is that you'll take Michael Tate's spot, right,
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You're you're the new Cochrane Tate.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I've been thinking about just like shaving this part
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of my hair too, to get ready for it.
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And then you know, you could do that for a
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few years, then join the newsboys and then come back
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and do Cochran like I got. I got the whole
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thing planned for you right now, Michael, Michael, we thank you.
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We can't wait to see you at night Vision when
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you do autographs for expensive items only and you bring
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your sweaty hair. Thank you for your time and we
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will see you in June.
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Hey, thanks so much man, good talking to you. See
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you guys,
