A Conversation with Jonathan Martin on Faith After Collapse.

In this episode of Mend the World, hosts Cece Jones-Davis and Malika McKinley Cox sit down with Jonathan Martin, writer, pastor, and spiritual guide, for an honest, often funny, and at times gripping conversation on faith evolution, the work of justice, and the fight to hold onto resilient hope.

Jonathan has walked thousands through seasons of spiritual crisis and transformation through his books Prototype, How to Survive a Shipwreck, The Road Away from God, and The Book of Waiting. He currently serves as Director of the Center for Spiritual Life and Associate Chaplain at DePauw University, and as Pastor of Fillmore United Methodist Church. His words have been featured in The New York Times, The Atlantic, NPR, Newsweek, Vox, and Sojourners.Together, Cece, Malika, and Jonathan move through some of the most urgent questions facing people today: How did the American Evangelical Church become entangled with the rise of fascism? What does it mean to leave a tradition without leaving the spirituality? And how do we keep showing up for our neighbors when the institutions that taught us to love our neighbor seem to have forgotten how?This is not a conversation that hands you easy answers. It's a conversation that offers honest company for the grief, the questions, the laughter, and the long road of becoming.What You'll Hear in This Episode:Jonathan's own faith journey and what it has cost and given him to keep evolving

How the American Evangelical Church has shaped the political currents driving the rise of authoritarianism in the United States and the trauma behind the ‘‘Left Behind’ theology

The difference between a faith that protects power and a faith that protects people

How to recognize spiritual bypass and what genuine reckoning looks like instead

Why grief, lament, and even anger are essential parts of the evolution of the soul 

How resilient hope is built, not as optimism, but as a practice rooted in community, truth-telling, and love

The role of artists, pastors, and ordinary people in the work of repair

Why doubt is not the enemy of faith, but often its most honest companion

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