[00:00:00] So I did a lot of research in the beginning about, you know, working with ghosts, waywards as we call them and learn how to cross them over and. Gosh, I always wanted to create a tool, you know, to the tensor tools. I always wanted to create a tool to cross over a ghost. Because once you start to see a man, they just, they come to you and, you know, I'd go into
Yeah.
or someplace or a grocery store and I'd have to tell them to wait in the car till I could come out and then help them cross over.
And, you know, always call in Archangel Michael and Raphael to help do the healing work and to open a portal to source. But throughout the years, we've actually discovered energies that will cross over a ghost automatically when they come into the field and that energy is called the sacred heart.
Welcome to the hyper dimensional human podcast. My name is Cameron Mac and. I'm going to be your guide and fellow traveler into the mystery is worlds. Of the hyper dimensional human. Please join us as we invest. [00:01:00] Investigate ways to help healers, psychics and mystics of all kinds. And power themselves for their journey towards self-mastery. Not only in this world. But also in the ones beyond.
In this episode of. Of the hyper dimensional human. No. It's not exactly about. Ghostbusting calm down. Rather it's partially about. The technology that can help assist in things like crossing over. Over ghosts, raising consciousness, blocking EMS. And that's really just the beginning. Now don't get me. Wrong.
I love the idea of this technology, but as always. There's more to it than meets the eye. Today I get to talk to. Uh, gifted, psychic, and energy intuitive named Brian Basco. Who creates and uses tensor technology to do many impressive. Uh, things. He prefers to focus on the working conscious. that it can help people grow [00:02:00] into.
This focus is exactly why I wanted to bring them on. On today's episode, Brian and I talk about his unique take. Take on tensor technology. We get into his early days. Days with his gifted sister and their fight against evil forces. And we touch upon Brian's progression from completely. Unaware materialist to gifted extra cyst and energy worker. Worker. To quantum tensor tool master creator. Creator.
It appears that not all tents. Sensor technology is created equal and, and Brian has the ability. To infuse his creations with unique. Art-based non-dues. Frequencies that can help sensitives intuitives and. And energy workers alike in a number of areas of life.
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Right so as I've mentioned before I decided to call this, this podcast, , the, the hyper dimensional human podcast. , every time I talk to somebody about it, they ask me what exactly is a hyper dimensional human. And actually that's probably a conversation for another podcast altogether, but What I'm realizing is that the definition for hyperdimensional human is kind of ever expanding.
For me right now, the hyperdimensional humans speaks to like the human, the human being that's aware. Of their multidimensional nature. And they're able to like directly experience that that expanded self on a, a day to day basis, like throughout the day. I would definitely say that this [00:04:00] concept includes all aspects.
of what it is to be human. But but in a more spiritual sense it's this awareness, uh, this awareness follows the concept that self illumination is the path to like self mastery.
Beautiful,
anyway so for today's hyper dimensional conversation I'm excited to get into the idea that there are these external technologies being remembered or discovered that will.
help us in our journey to that self awareness and that self illuminated mastery. And that's kind of, that's why I bring it. That's why I brought you on Brian. Brian Besko. I know that you're the owner and, and head honcho at twisted sage. com. I know that you're a professional energy worker and a mystic.
[00:05:00] Okay. Rather than me give a, Awkward intro that won't do you justice. Why don't you tell us a little about yourself? I couldn't find anything cool online,
right
I figured,
Yeah, it's, it's hard to fit
I figured it'd be best.
dimensional human, which we both are, I tell you, I tell you what camera, I still have goosebumps from when, when you first started talking here and just seeing everything. in supporting the bigger you. Gosh, there's just a lot of support. You know, a lot of people talk about that. Oh yeah, there's tons of beans here, but man, it was pretty tangible. And so I appreciate being on your show because you're, you are the real deal, man.
Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that.
Brian Besko, Twisted Sage Studios. We are a small family based business here in the Black Hills of South Dakota. For 14 years, I've been creating the tensor [00:06:00] rings. And these were originally brought through by Slim Sperling in our lifetime. He came to me three years after he passed to teach me how to create these physical tools. And for the past 14 years, I've had the remembrance of creating the Higher dimensional aspect of these tools for lifetime. So I'm known as a master builder because not because I can make circles round, but because I create here and then bring that into the physical the tensor rings, which are created through very specific sacred measurements.
Right. Awesome. That's inspiring.
But
Work. We just simply put the consciousness work into physical tools so that others can more easily access it. So we're just making fields, basically.
yeah, that's a, that is a conversation that not a lot of people are having, you [00:07:00] know about that technology. I, at least I don't see it out there much. Yeah. Cool. I, I am eager to get into more about the tools. But first I
that Slim Sperling encouraged me to create in 2011. As well as giving out those sacred measurements because when slim was alive, he, he did not publicly teach people how to create tensor rings because well, for, for whatever reasons and purposes, but you know, but what really sets us apart from anybody who makes a tensor ring is the etheric templates, the higher dimensional aspects of these tools. Which again is something I've created for lifetimes. And, and of course I have my sister who helps keep me in line. My sister, Brenda, who I speak a lot about because a humble country gal. She is the only person. on the planet that I've met that is always in the heart with her consciousness and not in her head, where we are [00:08:00] influenced and go down rabbit holes of belief and everything else. So my sister, she helps to work with the etheric templates, the higher dimensional aspects of these tools, as well as to help with, Keep me in check. So I don't go down those wild rabbit holes of beliefs that most humans will do when they're in the mind, which we do, we do a three breath technique, which we call going into the sacred space of the heart. And so that's, that's really, you know, it's something that's kind of the basis to all of our teachings, tools and techniques is really about just moving your consciousness from the head. into the physical heart and that's where you're not influenced by the old programs beliefs and all the stuff[00:09:00]
was wondering if. It'd be okay to dig into your own hyper dimensional journey. From you know, I guess on, on your e commerce, on the, on your website you have It's very business oriented, but then you have your videos and your video in your videos, I became very intrigued about your personal origin story and your spiritual journey.
Can we spend a couple minutes on that?
Yeah You know it all started I guess when My sister did healing work for me and that just totally blew my scientific team Part of my brain, really. Know, my sister has always been our, our family doctor, I guess, but really when everything first started that I moved from being science minded college, all that to actually [00:10:00] stepping into, you know, knowing who I am It was, I guess, gosh, about the same time that Slim Sperling came in about the same time that my sister started channeling an energy group called the Elders Three, and they just brought simple, easy tools like going into the sacred space of the heart with three breaths. And they brought through a little symbol called the Trescalian, or as they channeled it in as the symbol of Hettica, the water elemental, and it was working with that little three spiral piece of copper that actually started to break me open to feeling energy. I could not feel energy on my left side. That broke me into feeling energy. It really started to take me down that journey of, of the spirituality of knowing that there is something greater than our physical world. that was also what my sister's healing work did, was it helped me to see that there's something more than just this physical realm. And gosh, 14 years, [00:11:00] man, it has been a skyrocket of a journey. You know, I always considered myself this master angelic warrior, light warrior who was always fighting the dark. I mean, we've done things throughout throughout this journey the first four or five years in my journey. I was, had a partner at the time and she helped me to, to really step in and Be able to see myself on those other dimensional planes because we always did the work.
Cause again, we, we were lightworkers, we fought the dark, you know, and that's, you know, the old traditional form of lightworkers the dark. And that's what we did for many years. And some of these really cool things that we did were we would clear grid systems that were created by the churches. All the Masonic lodges all these places were connected to these old grid systems that were basically forms [00:12:00] of energy feeding, basically you know, you and all of these churches, we saw that every church built before 1946 connected to these grids and there was always a dragon. That was housed because the dragon and against their free will, of course, because the dragons are the ones who create these grid systems. You know, the mostly earth grids are created by the dragons, you know, you can go back Chinese texts and you know, and learn all about the dragon and tiger lines, but you know, so we did a lot of clearing work for even the state capital buildings that were also connected to grids and. You know, we ended up clearing all these grids through the course of about two years, and I wrote a little book about it.
It's not really published, but it's it's out there. I just talks about clearing the grids and with that to throughout my journey. Entity clearing was the big thing. I mean, I could be [00:13:00] walking down the street and somebody would say something really off the wall, strange to me. And I would turn and look, you know, look at metaphysical third eye look and I could see an entity attachment.
And basically it was just trying to get my attention and I would just simply help it. Release the contract that I had with the human and cross, you know, in the very beginning, when I first started doing the energy work, it was with ghosts waywards. My daughter, who turns 14 this summer, she she would have night terrors and. This was when I first started getting into energy work and it was when I first started to see, because we live in this tiny little town and we lived in an old brothel. There used to be like 13 brothels in this little town, but man, packed full of ghosts. And I didn't know anything about it, but man, my daughter who was fresh born did.
And so that's when I really started to, You know, step in and try to figure out what it [00:14:00] was that was causing these issues and I saw the ghosts and that was my first experience with them and learn how to cross them over. So I did a lot of research in the beginning about, you know, working with ghosts, waywards as we call them and learn how to cross them over and. Gosh, I always wanted to create a tool, you know, to the tensor tools. I always wanted to create a tool to cross over a ghost. Because once you start to see a man, they just, they come to you and, you know, I'd go into
Yeah.
or someplace or a grocery store and I'd have to tell them to wait in the car till I could come out and then help them cross over.
And, you know, always call in Archangel Michael and Raphael to help do the healing work and to open a portal to source. But throughout the years, we've actually discovered energies that will cross over a ghost automatically when they come into the field and that energy is called the sacred heart. The golden fire is actually what we call it in our tools. But I was a part of a small group who [00:15:00] actually received that sacred heart activation that, that trifle gold flame heart, you always see Jesus and Mary depicted with, but beyond religion, it is a facet of your soul's light. so we're able to, you know, Gosh, it's been a few years helping people activate that.
We got videos out, we put it into all the tools we create and we've seen some pretty phenomenal healing work with people that activate that golden fire within the heart and they'll use visualization, imagination, intention. They'll take that light and wrap things up. For one instance, my sister is on a phone call with somebody.
She helped them reactivate that sacred heart. They imagined wrapping up this fist sized tumor in their lung. Two weeks later, that tumor was gone. So it's just all facets of us. You know, it's, it's really, to me, the key to everything is consciousness. And that is either how your reality is and [00:16:00] could be your experiences through lifetimes and. Where we are going to right now, it, it all has to do with consciousness because consciousness is everything. So that's kind of where, you know, we really stepped through doing all that, the old style of light work of fighting the dark and all that stuff. And then, you know, everything really changed in 2019.
God, my sister Metatron and Thoth, they just walk with her. I mean, in 1999, when she got her spiritual two by four, her wake up, these two beings appeared, you know, and she's like, who the heck are you, you know, and what are you doing here? And, you know, throughout time, she has become one of the most phenomenal energy healers on the planet. And it's not because she does the work is because she is able to embody her light. She brings in her client, they embody their light as she does hers. And then I just sit there and I've witnessed that it is that person's light who does all of the work [00:17:00] and man, miraculous things. I mean, we hear of miracles and magic every flipping day. You know, through the consciousness work and the tools, but but yeah, so 2019, everything changed because Metatron Thoth, they started to step away. By 2020, I hardly saw any entity attachments anymore. You know, and we're trying to figure out what was going on. And from understanding is, is that all those beings that used to exist on this plane step away because humans are having enough consciousness now. And it's just time. It's time for us to be more self reliant and self, I mean, all that you are.
Right.
It's awesome. I got chills there. Because I, I mean the, the activating the heart thing is really an obstacle for me [00:18:00] and it's kind of like that it's kind of like Anything that you, anything that you know that's good for you, yet you don't do it, you know, you have that, that inner resistance, you know, you need to stop eating carbs, but what do you do?
Yeah. You know, you have a sandwich with bread. So yeah, I, I don't practice. I, I, I don't I have not followed through with that, that specific practice. I did it a couple times. Okay. But that was it. I didn't follow through. It's a, it's a, it's a ongoing obstacle for me, but I'll get there. I'll get there.
I totally understand, man. I mean, I tell you what, this past four years has been kind of, kind of hell for me because I wanted to hold on to everything, identity, you know, I was always scared to shift out of stuff. Definitely addicted to suffering. Oh my God. I think I did that through all my lifetimes, which I think we all did, you [00:19:00] know, there's, there's something to that whole thing where, you know, where, you know, that there's something there beyond, but you're just still holding on.
And there's a lot of reasons for us to hold on and not step through. And it comes down to fear and other. Other things, but yeah, in self worth, that's a big one.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think of the author of the book. It's a well known book. It's the, the war of art, the war of art.
Oh, the art of war.
I think no, no, the war, the war of art. I
Okay. I
but it's, but the whole gist of it is, you know How to how to do things what's happening within you when you are Not doing things that you know, you should be doing and he talks the author [00:20:00] Talks about in this inner resistance this he calls it resistance, you know and that's what you're fighting kind of is that resistance and how to and he goes through ways to on how to Dissolve it Yeah, but yeah, it's an ongoing, right?
used to be so angry at God and creation that that was my resistance. You know, I had to come to peace with that.
What like, do you have, I'm sure it's changed over the years, but do you have, do you still do like a, or did you ever do like a daily routine? I'm finding that I need to do. I need to add things to my daily routine, almost like getting up and, you know, taking a shower and stuff like that. I am finding that I need to [00:21:00] start doing that in the hyperdimensional way.
And just for my energy body and just for my Know, my subtle bodies, my aura, whatever you want to call it. Do you have any practices that you do on the daily or, or, you know, several times a week to help with that?
Yeah. There are so dang many tools that we have discovered and created over the past 14 years. But
So what are, what are your fa what are your favorite that you, you, you've used for you?
So, you know, no matter what, The the trinity breath to go into the heart space because moving from the head into the heart is a huge thing You know truly truly truly just Finding the quiet moments to sit with yourself to sit in the heart and to just [00:22:00] be That to me is the true form of meditation is just being in the heart and sitting with you. And you know, sometimes that takes being out in nature. So for me I'm really lucky because I twist wire every day. And to do that, you have to be in the sacred space of the heart. And so if it wasn't for my work, I probably would not have that daily routine because I too resist a lot of those things that I know are good for me. We have all these tools, but man, putting them into practice is another thing. But the Trinity breath is absolutely the easiest, simplest thing. And it is the basis to, you know, if we do any kind of energy work or meditation or make choices or whatever, if you're have reoccurring thought patterns and you're trying to sleep. we do this thing called the Trinity breath that my sister brought through well, and others too. I mean, Juneville [00:23:00] Malkisa deck talks about it two in a different way, but basically it's just moving the consciousness from the head and into the heart. And man, I'd love to share that if you could.
If you like, it's a pretty quick, easy thing.
Yeah. Yeah, let's let's get do that.
Cool. So basically one of the visualizations of it is that your consciousness is like a little marble marble size sphere of light that sits right behind the pineal gland and it sees out the eyes. It sees the world separate. It's influenced by, by thought patterns. It's influenced by mass consciousness.
It's influenced by, Cold traumas all the stuff, but when we move that into the heart, you know heart math Really, you know heart math really great science based Group that talks about the brain cells within the heart so also there's the whole concept that there's the troidal field the [00:24:00] heart's an electromagnetic field and you just go into that sacred space of the heart. Anyway, three breaths, super simple, easy. So how we do it is, it's easiest if you close your eyes and just put in your attention to your heart. That is where we see the heart. Our soul's light, your soul's fire. We see the seat of the soul there. Imagining connecting heart to heart with the earth, and breathing in that energy of the earth up through the feet, through the body, into the heart. And then next, connecting with you as creator God, as soul. However you see that, breathing in that light of you into the heart. The third breath in the Trinity breath, breathing in the energy of creation, of God, you, the energy of earth, bringing them [00:25:00] both together within the heart where they mix together. And then they extend out to creation and into the earth. So you become the bridge, the conduit between heaven and earth. And it is in that third breath that you move into the heart space. So open your eyes if you can. A lot of people, when they're deep in the heart, it's hard to open your eyes, but when your eyes are open, you can. You see the world differently. You see it from the heart space. For me, when I take the three breaths and move into the heart, my speech, stance, mannerisms, they all change, as well as my thought patterns. And it's an exercise. I mean, you'll get pulled out of the heart space, you know, you start thinking about something or you're driving down the road and get cut off in traffic, whatever, you know, you'll pop back up into the head, but it's, it's an [00:26:00] exercise.
And, you know, the simpler, the better you can do it with one breath, if you'd like. just simplicity. So make it your own process. You know, you can connect with source first if you want. However, simplicity.
So this so this is something that you you do like throughout the day Like when you are just just to be mindful and when you catch yourself, you know up in the head Thinking too much or thinking the wrong and the things that you don't want to be thinking you you come back heart You always come back to the heart
Emotional reactions or else. Things just aren't like you feel like the day is just fighting you, that you're just trying to swim upstream, whatever it all is. Yeah. Going into the heart space you're overwhelmed with, man, what do I do here? I got all these decisions or these places, different directions I can go.
Yeah. [00:27:00] just coming back to the heart. And really that's where, that's where we are very much. That's the seed of the soul as we see it. And when you're in the heart space, it is a place where you can have communication with your higher self, your soul, And if you can sit in there and you can explore I know dreamville McKee's a deck in the flower of life books.
He talks really deep about the sacred seed of the heart and going there and exploring and meeting your guides and how everything is internal is external. You know, you see the stars within the heart, and there's a lot to the sacred heart, but in true simplicity it just brings you into that. Better connection with you where you're not being influenced by all the crap.
Okay.
Makes my [00:28:00] wings flutter. Just the energies and, feeling you feeling it.
Yeah. Okay. I was going to ask another question, but I think you already answered it. So I know it I know it twisted sage. As we've been talking, like, your focus is the tensor technology. We don't probably have time to like deep dive into that. But but I know that there's a lot of information on your website about, about that technology. So that's what was did sage. com, right?
Yeah, and
That's a, that's way to go for that.
know, Cameron, the only reason that I'm so passionate about that, the, the, the tensor technology is because of the consciousness work that we do [00:29:00] for ourselves and for all of creation. And, and it's just that the tools are a way that we can more easily share it. And of course, yes, you did mention we're kind of on, you know, you see us with the mullet, you know, business in front and the metaphysical on the back, know, and and because we're a family business and, you know, gosh, my business manager, my other sister, she's pretty, pretty you know, she's mundane for for lack of better words.
And, you know, so we try to, we try to not, let me step back. My passion is. Expansion of consciousness, expansion of creation, and us stepping into ourselves is a huge part of that expansion of creation and consciousness. And so that's really, if there was one thing I could do, it would be to [00:30:00] just Go out and teach and share this information and not because, you know, a lot of times people catch on to something new and, Oh, you, you know, I feel like a Jehovah when you first catch onto this and knock on the door.
Hey, have you heard of the Merkaba activation? You know, and try to really push those things. But I just really want to you. Bring all this stuff out and have it on the table. Oh, yeah. Every time you order something from Twisted Sage, you get a little Merkaba activation card as my sister walked with Thoth for a number of years and I'd read Drunvalo's books about the Merkaba all that and you know, my sister, Thoth taught her how to reactivate the Merkaba, which is the same way Thoth taught Drunvalo, which was mudras and breath work, and you had to do it for two years every day to keep your Merkaba functioning. I think it was 2015, I did a 20 questions with Thoth and we, and we made it easier, [00:31:00] which we call the Crystal Merkaba, we even have a website, crystalmerkaba. com, where we just. Merkaba stuff because it, it's a new time. It's, it's simple and that isn't just another facet of your light, but it is something that's connected to the physical body.
So the Merkaba is
Mm,
one too, for a meditation. If you ever get bogged down and just want to clear your field, you Merkaba activation in three breaths and you just pop that Merkaba. Geometry out around the body. It's electromagnetic field, everybody who's sensitive to EMS, man, it's an electromagnetic field and you can program it and it'll harmonize everything that comes into your field. There's just so many tools out there in the metaphysical spiritual that we can access that are amazing and life changing. for not only you, but everybody around you, you know, environmental [00:32:00] stuff, columns light, man, that is one of the biggest things that I have been passionate about teaching is how to anchor a column of light and you can anchor it into cemeteries and I'll cross over ghosts.
You can anchor it into cell phone towers who we actually created this thing in 2012 the global love and gratitude grid. we, we anchored in columns of light and we created grids that basically when you drop it into a cell phone tower, the cell phone tower is producing a beneficial energy of love and gratitude on its airwaves. For everybody who's just like in the area, but for those who like see a cell phone tower, because we're powerful creators, you see that cell phone tower, you're like, Oh man, that damn thing's frying me. And that's what comes into your reality creation. But if you're in no
mm,
that cell phone tower and you've anchored a column of light into it, it is actually producing a beneficial energy. So. light columns. And again, we have [00:33:00] that website, global love and gratitude grid. com, teaching the, the light anchors is really a huge thing. And so it's part of my meditation too. That's what I do a lot is if I see something that, you know, as a dense energy in my environment. Just anchor a column of light.
mm. How safe is it to do one of those in your bedroom?
Oh, completely safe. Actually in our workshops, that's what we do is we teach people how to the first thing we do in our workshops for light columns is we, we create a light column in our house. So that way it's like a like a healing space. It's like a space to connect. So you create a light column and that's just your safe, sacred space. you can step into just be. And it's, yeah, it's pretty amazing. Know, and I've taught at the, you know, I've taught at the American society of dowsers. I've actually been a keynote speaker there before, and I teach dowsing people [00:34:00] to basically create light columns. And actually we create dowsing rods too, you can use to close portal vortexes move geomagnetic lines, all kinds of great stuff. But Dowsing is just, it's just another tool. sorry. I have no, I don't know where I was going with that whole thing, but just the, the light columns anchoring columns of light and, and teaching that to people who are doing the environmental work like dowsers and
Yeah.
anybody who wants to, you know, Shift your environment.
So it sounds like that, like you were talking about crossing wayward, wayward souls before. It sounds like that's, that's like one of the main methods that you can use that will that
Yeah. Yeah, totally. That's, you know, I also do a lot of ghost busting one on one classes and you know, not as much anymore, but yeah, that is [00:35:00] really the, the tool to use for, for crossing over ghosts is that those columns of light and, you know, as you mentioned, we have that YouTube channel and we have all the different ones like light anchoring 3.
0. I think it's called. There's a lot of light anchoring videos we've done over the years since 2012 and those are all out there and you know, and the thing is, is that we create the higher dimensional tools. So everything is created here first and then brought into the physical. So there are quantum tool.
So we give people the attunements and activations. To be able to access these quantum tools without having to have the physical tools and that is something amazing too. So, you know, cause to me, I'm not a huge salesman. I don't like to push the physical tools as much as I do how to access those fields and use them a physical tool, [00:36:00] but the tools are
All right. The tools are cool. the tools. The tools are like you know, the old school idea of just like, you know, they're, they're a fo a focus, A fo foci, foci, foci, FOCI that, that you can focus that with a specific energy, with a specific purpose. Right.
Yeah. And they hold fields so that if you decide one day, you're just going to go on autopilot and not worry about trying to do, know, not going to ground. I'm not going to connect and take my three breaths. I'm just going to walk through life, man. Yeah. That's, that's where the tools can be in support because they do help to balance ground, align, connect. clear and,
Right,
and to me, the tools are training wheels. They, they, they show us that you can do these things a lot [00:37:00] of us, because we're human and this is the way we've done it for lifetimes, eons. You know, we, we need that thing that's outside of us. You know, we need that tool to help us anchor a calm of light for a lot of people.
It's, it's a mental thing. But in true reality,
right,
once you know something, that's why they're training wheels, once you know it. You know, you can do it. You don't need the tool anymore.
right. I I, I'm not sensitive enough to, right now, like I'm pretty in my own way. I'm pretty sensitive. But when it comes to like, when I'm awake, waking consciousness I don't have that sensitivity to that type of thing right now. What? Well, how? What would you recommend like for someone like me that is interested in this stuff?
But you know, if Yeah, like I got your, your heart coil, the, the quantum heart [00:38:00] coil.
Mm
I can't, when I am deep in meditation, I could feel that. But, When I'm just like, if I take those, the, the, even if I take the, the three breaths and I, you know, I'm calm and I'm quiet, but I'm awake, I can't get there. I can't feel it.
Is there, what's that, what's a bridge that you, is there a bridge that you can recommend that I can build? For that level of sensitivity. Does that make sense?
does make sense. There's, you know, two, two little split answers real quick on that. One is, you know, you said it, taking the three breaths to go into the heart space because whenever I'm showing people the tools, they're like, ah, I can't feel it. I just walk them through the three breaths to go into the heart space. When they're in the heart space, then most people can feel those energies of the tools that, that I'm working with, like it shows and things, but the other thing is [00:39:00] when I was with my path partner and we were doing all that clearing out and all the other Planes you know, the church grids, all that stuff I couldn't see in the beginning.
I had to rely on her and trust her. And I'd verify it with like my sister who could also see, even doing readings on the tools I could not see. So every night before I went to bed, I'd go into the heart space. And I would just talk to my soul. And at the time I was like, Hey, you know, I had this whole long list of things.
I would say like, give me all the activations and attunements and understandings to be able to see, you know, and, and whatever your words are, because that's the thing is that when you talk to your soul, You don't need specific words because it totally understands what it is that you're asking without the words, but the words just help to, it helps you. so to me it is just being in that quiet space of the heart and talking to your soul or [00:40:00] your life or your higher consciousness or however you see this more part of you, not a bigger, a grander, a more part of you. However you see that, just make your. Make your wishes known for what it is that you want to experience in this life that can be to have those sensitivities or that site. For me, when I got my site, all I could see was. Entities and dark stuff, you know, because that was a part of my path. You know, I kind of almost regretted in the beginning of really wishing and wanting and desiring to be able to see because man, did I get it? And, you know, but again, it's a beautiful thing.
But yeah, just working, working with you. Working with your consciousness is really, to me, again, the answer to everything.[00:41:00]
That's a, yeah. Trying to feel into that. I start to get emotional because there's definitely a lot of, I definitely have blocks and you know I, I guess I start to tell myself, well, you know, what's, what's keeping you back with what's keeping you back from like embracing that the power, right. The, that, that scepter of, okay.
Of sovereignty and power. Right? What's keeping you back? What? And I'm like, consciously, I'm like, I don't know what's keeping me back. But there is something
Yeah, man.
there is,
So I would love to share with you because I think I see you feel it. Because man, in the beginning, when we first started talking here and your light, man, your light's [00:42:00] freaking phenomenal and it is grand and big and bright. And it's always there, to me, what the answer really is to all blocks of abundance, to light, to understanding, to clarity is making a clear conscious choice. Because when we come in, we carry all of our ancestors crap. Our body's not really ours. We inherit it from our ancestors. You know, we have mass consciousness. We have old lifetime traumas. We have our own belief structures that are handed down throughout time. All of this stuff, and even in an old lifetime where you made an oath, vow, promise, You know, for whatever it is even, you know, a vow of poverty, of that kind of stuff.
Those are the blocks that we come in with. And how we release those is going into the [00:43:00] heart space and making a clear, conscious choice. Saying, you know what, soul? What, you know what, me, consciousness, however you want to say it, interact, I'm done. I, I let this go. I, I choose to release those blocks, those limitations. To my light, to my abundance, to my health. And so, you know, that's what I've been teaching for about four years now is, is making clear conscious choices and especially, you know, the things that we don't want. that come up. We just say, Hey man, I'm letting that go. And again, when you're in the heart space and you make that choice from the heart and tell you what lot of times we do that and when we, we feel like we mean it, you know, Hey, I'm, I want to get rid of this block, but yet there's still a part of us that's holding onto that sucker, man.
There's one
[00:44:00] Quick I'll share that I call the soul altar. And basically it is just when you're in the heart space. Well, something comes up you know, like, like your thought here of, of this block. You just use your imagination that you have this altar. To me it's like this little pillar, you know, and it has a little flat top on it and that's my soul altar. What you do to make this clear conscious choice is you just imagine your block or whatever it is that you want to release. imagine taking that and setting that down onto that little altar and then you stepping away. And you taking the step away from it is truly saying, okay, am actually done. I'm not playing anymore. I'm not saying that I'm done, but yet still holding onto it. release it. And you know, when you can truly let those things go, wild because [00:45:00] Maybe a day or two later, you're like, Hey, I think I was trying to release something, but I have no idea what the hell it was because it's gone. If it is still there, you know, our thoughts are that it is still serving you in some way. But yeah, clear conscious choice using the soul altar is really a great one because again, that's just a ceremony for the mind is what that is.
right. That's powerful. I like that.
Cool. Let's get into a little bit about the I know it's like one of the first things that when we met at the the, what was it? The life the life.
in LA,
Yeah. Conscious life. Yeah. You were telling me about the heart [00:46:00] coil, but you're also telling me about another one. What? One of the one of the wands.
What, what was, what's the wisdom one?
wand.
So the difference between, let's just start with the, let's start with the wisdom one and then we'll go to the harcoil because I'm really interested in both and the difference between both.
Yeah. So they both come from the same energy, which is just what we call the wisdom energetics. So quick story. Every time I would step on my, jump on my motorcycle, I would totally see myself rolling across the highway. My daughter's standing there mourning my death for two weeks. This went on. And I was like, man, what is this premonition?
No, man, I don't want this. Call my sister. What's going on? It was awesome. of old lifetime that was projecting its traumas through me. [00:47:00] And if I would have allowed it, it would have into physical reality. Interesting thing is the past four or five years, most people that we see that have something going on, physical, mental, emotional life situation WTF, I don't want this. We're finding that it is always tied to an old lifetime trauma. And what we discovered is, is that in this Ascension process that we're stepping into is, is that all of these lifetimes and experiences are coming home through us to soul and they get stuck in this. Sometimes we entertain them and we hold onto them and then they manifest their shit into our world. see this time and time again. And so that was when I first started to understand that integration of those lifetimes [00:48:00] that is where the wisdom wand came in and all the teachings that went behind that in the soul altar is one of those, one of those tools that we use, because basically we call it wisdom because as your soul, we have source. Then soul and then soul has all of these experiences and all these potentials, all these lifetimes, not just here. I mean, soul is soul is everything that you are. so are the lifetimes and experiences. It's like we see the human as like this designated ascendee of all your lifetimes here on earth that we are, this lifetime is when most of us are stepping in Instead of being an ascended master who leaves and leaves all of his lifetimes behind, we are stepping in as embodied masters, which means that we are going to bring all of this but anyway, what we see is, is that as we bring in your soul has this [00:49:00] lifetime and that is nothing more than your light that is tied up into a lifetime or experience. So when you bring that back and you give it to soul, Soul hands it back to you as what we call wisdom. What we are seeing is that the deeper, darker dive you take in a lifetime, the more light and wisdom your soul elicits from that experience. And so as we begin to do this work, and this work happens automatically, the human can't do it, but the human can hold on to the crap and not allow it to happen. Well, it's going to happen anyway, but just be more painful. But as we bring more of those lifetimes and experiences to wisdom, you amass consciousness and light. Your soul is brighter because of the experience that are brought to wisdom. And that is truly why we created the wisdom [00:50:00] wand because again, a lot of times that people have physical things going on, You go into the heart space, you run the energy to that physical thing and you'll know that it is energetic, especially when that physical pain moves through the body. basically, and again, this is just a tool and you don't need the tool, all you're doing is that this is the training wheel. This is helping you bring, like you said, bring in your awareness. to what is going on. So basically when you are wanting, you were just simply bringing your divine awareness, your light to what this old trauma or stuck energy is. It's brought to wisdom. This clears up. And that includes. Situations reactions. when I was working with this energetic, and again, you don't need the tool. You can simply do that soul alter exercise. Anytime I would have a [00:51:00] emotional reaction to something or else something would happen. I'm like, well, why am I experiencing this?
You know, like a book drops on your toe or whatever. You're like, what? You stop going to the heart space. Yeah. And it's a soul. After I did this for 18 months, was at peace for what I felt like was the first time in any lifetime. It's like I was standing in this loud, crowded room all of my life and I was not aware of it. until it was gone. And it is all that chatter of the lifetimes. This even includes ego. I mean, I also did several classes on basically helping to release ego from its old constructs. It's old, it's old job so that I could step in alignment with soul into a new way of creating. So anyway, that's the wisdom wand.
Now, the quantum heart coil, which is the small coil pendant, it's the [00:52:00] same feel, well, it's the same energy, but that little coil, when I, we call it an empath filter, because I see that when you put it on your soul, your light consciousness comes in, puts this, what I presents to me is this red fibrous cocoon around you, allows in the information. not the crap. And that is, you know, kind of the blessing and curse of an empath is, is that you take, you receive all the crap and then you can't tell what's yours and what's theirs. You just experienced their shit, which, you know, is not fun. So it's, it's the whole concept of standing behind a short wall where you can see and witness things that are going on out there, but you don't have to be in it. But again, you can do that. With clear conscious choice, you don't need the tools, clear conscious choice to take on those energies or not. Cause [00:53:00] truly. What is yours? It's what you choose to carry. That is what is yours. It can be all the drama, traumas. It can be all the shit. It can be these funky experiences. Or you can say no. You know, and, and to me, as we are stepping into our power as we were stepping into becoming creators, conscious creators of interfacing consciousness and energy, That the first thing we do is we start to release those things that no longer serve us, we begin to uncreate creation and You know, I could tell you stories and stories.
I mean, we found the chalice energy in 2018, which was this crystal clear, pure consciousness light duality, the yin and the yang, which is the balance, the driving force of all creation, the dark and the light. This chalice energy, as we call it, it's just crystal clear, pure light. It doesn't fight the dark, doesn't take sides with [00:54:00] the light.
It just is. And then that system just releases. And that was the first energy that we saw that we were able to uncreate creation. I got invited to Guatemala to go teach teach a class during a big ceremony there several years ago. at some of the, I don't even remember the name of the pyramids down there.
They were the ones that were on Star Wars. Anyway, that pyramid complex was down there teaching. I wanted to make shaman's wands to give to all the shaman down there in Guatemala. I made these shaman's wands. I had this hiatal hernia, which is the stomach that flips upside down. Six years, man. I walked with this, my sister and none of our, People could clear this thing. It was always related to emotions. I made the shaman wand with that chalice energy down, I put a bubble around it. minutes later I got up and I could find that that hernia was never, ever, even ex in [00:55:00] existence. It cleared the existence. And that reality of even having that hernia never came back. And that was the first time that we saw. yes, that's what we are doing is we were stepping in to be in creators by first on creating creation, which no longer serves us. And there's several examples all along the way of doing that.
Interesting.
so yeah, I tell you it's it's a beautiful, beautiful time to be to truly just be in the heart space and just be with yourself. Allowing is the fricking big word surrender, surrender. A lot of people have problems with surrender, but allowing, allowing things in that radical self acceptance, allowing things to be as they are. We don't do healing work anymore. We allow whatever it is to be, and then it shifts. I tell you my, yeah,
Mm hmm.
a hard time doing healing anymore with people because people want to know, well, what did you see?
What did you do? And what happened? It's like, well, [00:56:00] just had you accept it kind of as it is while you, you're standing in your heart and in your light and. Once you quit fighting something, it releases. It goes out of
Mm
but the more we fight anything closer it comes into reality You know, whether you're fighting abundance or you're fighting a relationship or you're fighting a healing man Surrender to that stuff Radical acceptance and then it shifts.
That's the new paradigm. It's a tough one. It's a damn tough one, but You it's where we're going works. It works.
hmm. Mm hmm.
Interesting. Yeah, I'm very interested about the, to feel that, the chalice energy that you're [00:57:00] talking about.
It's actually in
I
we create and it is, it is, it covers the world. It's an energy that has been here since the beginning of this world that was created for duality, for the expansion of consciousness, basically for, for experience But this chalice energy has been here long before duality. so this chalice energy really, all you have to do is really bring your awareness to it. All it is, is just a space of knowing that there's something beyond the duality. And so the chalice energy again, it's, it's, it's permeates, it's, it's in all of existence. So all you have to do is be in the heart space and just allow it to be there. And it comes through, you know,
feel like there are,
yeah, please go ahead.
I feel like there are beings out there that [00:58:00] specialize in that. I, I, I have experienced like dragons specifically that Can like that. It's just part of their nature to be able to do that. And, and things, things resolve in such a way that, you know, I was, I was, when I started my spiritual path, I was immediately because of the darkness that I experienced, I was, drawn to you know, psychic protection psychic warfare, spiritual warfare.
And it actually, interestingly, it actually that entrance into psychic development and spiritual development actually brought me all the way around, you know, to what ultimately is, is spiritual evolution, the evolution of consciousness and [00:59:00] stuff like that. But you know, I, what I was stuck in that paradigm that you were talking about before in your own journey about, you know, seeing everything is dark versus light, dark versus light.
And I don't deny that. I don't, I don't deny that there is dark, that there is evil. But there's different ways to deal with it. There's different ways and, and getting myself to in the moment, in the moment of the altercation, being able to stop, take a step back and like you're saying, go straight into the heart and Let the heart, you know, a lot of people, a lot of, for a lot of people, they call it love.
And, and for me, it's, it's not exactly love, but you know, maybe my [01:00:00] own interpretation of love is different than others, but it's more like you know, it's more like truth. It's more peace. It's like a combination of these, these values all in one that don't, there's not like a, I guess you can have a duality, I guess you can say truth and lie, but I also see that there's just truth as a holistic thing, right?
And, and when you're talking about this chalice energy, truth, peace, peacemaking, that's what, and then from the heart, you know, from the, it's not a, it's not a, it's not a intellectual concept, from the heart. And that stops, like, a lot of, a lot of altercations that I continue to get into, it stops it cold.
But I have, I have to be [01:01:00] able to drop into that, which I'm not successful at. A lot, you know, that's, that's my challenge.
Yeah. And it's tougher in the heat of the moment for sure, man. When you're in any kind of peer fear, pain, body in the moment of the stuff, man. Yeah. It is tough. And that's, we're just practicing, you know, going into that heart space to where, you know, you can get it to where you can do it in a breath and try to do it before things build up to where you just can't get there. And
Yeah.
but yeah, no, I, like I say, man, it's, you are a pretty phenomenal light and it's, it's,
you.
it's right there with you. It really is.
Cool. So let's go. Is there, is there any other tools that you wanted to talk about that you wanted to bring up? I
Oh man.
Know you have a lot.
have a [01:02:00] lot, we have everything from, you know, EMF mitigation. You know, cell tab, household electric. This is an AI interface ring, which a lot of people are scared of. Cause it just brings your light and consciousness in artificial intelligence. It's not like you're allowing artificial intelligence come into you. This one's for laptop computers and you know, cause it's just. It's all about light and consciousness, AI is and it's just a reflection of our consciousness. But so we have a lot of stuff for EMF and, you know, we've done several biofeedback studies that are published out there. also make the water rings for dancing with water, the new science of water, and they've done a lot of research.
So there's a lot of science behind. you can create Ormus out of your drinking water. These contain the highest paramagnetic value out of anything tested according to Dr. Um, the doctor who knows about paramagnetics. but his name is on the tip of my tongue, but anyway, [01:03:00] the, there's a lot of science with these, but you know, really our passion is. is really integrating embodying your light. we make several things like we have, gosh, I'm here in the studio where we have it. I could probably move the camera. a ton of light chambers, this, the Ascension pyramids. That's our original Ascension Pyramid. That big tall steel chamber way back there, that was our original Ascension Chamber. Yeah, we just have another chamber behind me, but these all are just powerful sacred spaces to be in. You know, so we make things from the small jewelry all the way up to these giant light chambers. And, and again, the tools are cool, but man, I definitely don't want to really be here promoting, Hey man, check out these tools and buy them.
But [01:04:00] rather have people have these experiences with with their own divinity, their own light through the ways that we hold space. Because then. tools become a lot more tangible and interesting, you know, like the creation field tools we've moved from after you integrate all of your wisdom most of your wisdom, the creation field is the next energetic.
And that's the same with like our coils. We have the wisdom energetic coils, like the quantum heart coil. And then we have the creation field style. then we still make the golden fire tools for those who still want to play in the world of light versus dark you know, and, and the wands for anchoring light, if you're really into that whole light versus dark, that's the, you know, but they're much more than that because as you step up in consciousness, does the work that you do.
So when we first started anchoring light, it was all about the light [01:05:00] versus dark. Now, when we anchor light is about bringing more consciousness and light to the planet. so I guess, you know yeah, do check out our twisted sage. com website and our YouTube channel is, has a lot of stuff on it, but really, man, what I would just like everybody to take away with today is just knowing that. There's great tools out there like the Trinity breath to go into the heart space. And to me, that is absolutely the biggest thing that you can do. is going into the heart space. And you know, if you are interested in the tools, you know, do decide to go to the website and you're overwhelmed because we have probably like a hundred products there. I tell everybody is that the energy comes through the tools. Don't look at the descriptions or the names, just go into the heart space and your, your light, your consciousness will draw you to what it is that will most assist you in [01:06:00] that time. And yeah, it's, I don't know. It's a, really is a beautiful world out there once we can get out of the whole the hole that we've put ourselves in.
I guess that's a good way to say it.
Yeah. Okay, cool, man. All right. So this is a little segue into what I call the, the totally random question segment. Um, this, okay. This is totally random. It's a, it's a little bit controversial, which I'm okay with. And this is not the first or last time I'll probably get, get into this. But recently I think.
I've gotten triggered a lot regarding the idea of spiritual ascension. And, and how like our spiritual communities, [01:07:00] especially online use this concept to sell stuff, to sell courses and tools and you name it, you know, healing. In essence, in essence, I believe in ascension. And, but I think it's all become like a marketing gimmick.
Yeah.
I'm, I'm, I guess I'm just getting, I get irritated about how, how much this term and concept has been hijacked. So, like I said, I know this is kind of random per our, our, Discussion so far, but I guess it could, it's a little bit part of it, but but do you, do you believe in, like, let's say, do you believe in spiritual ascension?
And like, what's your definition of ascension? And what are your thoughts on the subject?
Yeah, because I touched on it a little bit here during the talk, because basically to me, ascension is, [01:08:00] word that I prefer to use for ascension is realization. And realization is basically knowing that have consciousness, which is you, you have energy, which is all you. is energy and everything is your energy. And that it is. understanding and melding. Well, it's the understanding that those two are always melded together and that we are here to just experience those as the human. So to me, ascension is a different perspective of a knowing and an understanding that we are not here stuck in this matrix and oh poor me and these things are happening to me. Ascension realization to me. Is knowing that everything is your energy and your energy is here to serve you. And when you become a master is when you allow energy to serve you in a whole different [01:09:00] way, instead of the energy to serve you for soul growth, learning, experience that you are allowing energy to serve you, to bring you joy, to just have experiences and what we call a higher potential. so. To me, part of this whole Ascension thing has been me, the work that I've done for clearing all these grid lines, this church grids, the all these different grid systems were holding us in a certain level of consciousness, that part of that is for me and what my work has been here on this planet in the past 15 years is the releasing of not only some of those limiting things but, Bringing us more in touch of with who we are you know, cause I had mentioned about how like some of the ascended masters like Jesus, Buddha, Tobias, some of these, you know, St.
Germain, [01:10:00] some of these guys who, who ascend, again, it's not like they, they, they stay here not like they take all their lifetimes to me, part of what we are doing that we are doing that has never been done before, or. is integrating these lifetimes back to soul. So to me, truly the whole end game of it all, where, where we start with soul, we become, or we start with, I am, I am God source. We become soul. We fractal out into all these experiences. And to me, we are right here now to where we're bringing all these experiences together to where we step into sovereignty. me, that is what ascension is, is when we step into our own sovereignty as this multifaceted gem of who we are, [01:11:00] because we have all these soul aspects. All of these lifetimes and experiences, that as we bring those into wisdom, then we become this. And I, why I say a multifaceted gem is because each of those facets of your soul is one of those lifetimes or experiences that has come into wisdom, into completion, create the concept
Mm,
love to share. is energy and everything is your energy. That includes people. This is a wild concept and I've lost a lot of friends over this one, but I'm going to stick with it. That everything is your energy and is here serving you. And when you have another person, you and me, it is not, you're, you are not a soul being within my energy.
There's no soul beings within your energy, but it is a ray of your consciousness from your soul. Your soul light, a [01:12:00] ray of your soul is interacting my energy. And then that is who you become. And so crazy concept because we created this thing. One of our newest chambers the creation field chamber almost a year old. And it's like, when you step in there, we step into the zero point space. We call it the nothing space. Light, your light comes in and patterns energy differently and that what is your energy patterns are also people in your interactions with people. And I see that once we really allow our light to shine out into all of our creation, that your interactions with people change and people themselves change. but it's, it's this whole concept of, of becoming whole and complete and unifying. It's not like, Hey, we're [01:13:00] all becoming one. It's me and you and every soul being within my reality. We're all going to be one just like we were at source. No, oneness when we step through the realization ascension.
When we become the multifaceted gem that we are at yeah, you know, that, that whole explaining where everybody's your energy. I did not do a very good job of explaining that one. That one's kind of a, of a deeper rabbit hole where you have to cover a lot of other bases. I tried to cover it glaze over the top, but I know I really didn't to the meat of this thing, but I planted the seed. Concept which just basically it's just, it's more empowering, it's more empowering because you know, knowing that everything is your energy and let's say that somebody does something, you know, that causes you a reaction [01:14:00] that you know that they're not doing it for, you know, a purpose of hurting you or, you know, something outside of you. And that is really the key. The key to this is that there's nothing outside of you, not the one percenters, not the government, not the the Bill Gates, the chemtrails, whatever it is is outside of you. There's nothing outside of you and you have the power to change everything in your reality creation.
Cause everything is your energy. And so you change your relationship with those things. they change. Yeah. And that's,
yeah,
that's just part of doing the consciousness work, the real true light work duality.
yeah,
It's bringing in your light, which is consciousness and bringing more of [01:15:00] your light and consciousness into all of creation. And that changes everything. to me, once we learn to master that, that is ascension. Realization is when we are able to master and energy.
mm, yeah, awesome. That yeah, that idea that all energy is your energy that's I used to work with a Tibetan shaman, like very old school dude, very old school, like, and his lineage was not his lineage was ultimately like, you know, beyond 15, 000 years ago when, you know, before patriarchy and before certain things happened in the world.
And he has, he would talk about that and he would talk [01:16:00] about some practices that he would do where he would do healing. And that's basically that at the very foundation of the healing is that he would look at the outside energy as his own energy. And then what, and then in his own, in his own mind, he has to truly perceive that energy as being healed.
And then the person And then that would, that would create healing in the person. I'm sure I don't, I don't, I don't completely understand every, everything, every part of it. I'm still trying to understand a lot of the things that he was trying to teach me. But that's what it sounds like. You're, you're talking about a little bit and like you, like you were saying, that's a rabbit hole.
That's like a, you know, let's take a few weeks on that concept.
No, yeah, no, man. [01:17:00] That's, that's the way, that's the way we began doing healing too is, yeah, you, you, because instead of projecting onto somebody, oh yeah, you're sick and help them confirm what their reality is. You're like, no man, you are grand and you are all incomplete and there's absolutely nothing that matter with you. And yeah, projecting that. And yeah, that, that really is a great way because really what, what we perceive so much with, with our, not only our heart based imagination, but our mental stuff when our beliefs creates our reality. And the more that you can see it in, you know, I would say that positive way, the more it steps in to reflect that for you, because you are creator.
Yeah.
Cool. I think, I think [01:18:00] we, we've, we've gone on, it's been a while. I think we were, we're good. Right. I pulled, I pulled a lot out of you. yeah, I want to thank you for coming on and And I hope that this gets to a lot of people out there, you know, Hey, whether it's, whether it's right away or over time hopefully our conversation can connect people with, you know, with your work and with the ideas behind your work.
Right. Yeah.
you, Cameron. Yeah. It's been an honor to be here and it's been an honor to be in this space because this has been just a beautiful, wonderful space that That you created and, and we co created and you facilitated. So thank you very much. And thank you for the opportunity of getting out to see new people out there.
So hope you all enjoyed it and got some great things out [01:19:00] of here because I know there was a lot of energy shifts that I could feel from those who will be watching this at one point in time. And that's it is that the spaces that we hold and the energy work that we do, the conscious work that we do right now. Is also, right now, truly is.
Hmm. Yeah. Awesome, man. All right.
yay.
Talk to you.
Yeah.
or someplace or a grocery store and I'd have to tell them to wait in the car till I could come out and then help them cross over.
And, you know, always call in Archangel Michael and Raphael to help do the healing work and to open a portal to source. But throughout the years, we've actually discovered energies that will cross over a ghost automatically when they come into the field and that energy is called the sacred heart.
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In this episode of. Of the hyper dimensional human. No. It's not exactly about. Ghostbusting calm down. Rather it's partially about. The technology that can help assist in things like crossing over. Over ghosts, raising consciousness, blocking EMS. And that's really just the beginning. Now don't get me. Wrong.
I love the idea of this technology, but as always. There's more to it than meets the eye. Today I get to talk to. Uh, gifted, psychic, and energy intuitive named Brian Basco. Who creates and uses tensor technology to do many impressive. Uh, things. He prefers to focus on the working conscious. that it can help people grow [00:02:00] into.
This focus is exactly why I wanted to bring them on. On today's episode, Brian and I talk about his unique take. Take on tensor technology. We get into his early days. Days with his gifted sister and their fight against evil forces. And we touch upon Brian's progression from completely. Unaware materialist to gifted extra cyst and energy worker. Worker. To quantum tensor tool master creator. Creator.
It appears that not all tents. Sensor technology is created equal and, and Brian has the ability. To infuse his creations with unique. Art-based non-dues. Frequencies that can help sensitives intuitives and. And energy workers alike in a number of areas of life.
As always. If you like what you hear today? And you have yet to follow or subscribe. Please consider. Doing so. [00:03:00] I appreciate the support.
Right so as I've mentioned before I decided to call this, this podcast, , the, the hyper dimensional human podcast. , every time I talk to somebody about it, they ask me what exactly is a hyper dimensional human. And actually that's probably a conversation for another podcast altogether, but What I'm realizing is that the definition for hyperdimensional human is kind of ever expanding.
For me right now, the hyperdimensional humans speaks to like the human, the human being that's aware. Of their multidimensional nature. And they're able to like directly experience that that expanded self on a, a day to day basis, like throughout the day. I would definitely say that this [00:04:00] concept includes all aspects.
of what it is to be human. But but in a more spiritual sense it's this awareness, uh, this awareness follows the concept that self illumination is the path to like self mastery.
Beautiful,
anyway so for today's hyper dimensional conversation I'm excited to get into the idea that there are these external technologies being remembered or discovered that will.
help us in our journey to that self awareness and that self illuminated mastery. And that's kind of, that's why I bring it. That's why I brought you on Brian. Brian Besko. I know that you're the owner and, and head honcho at twisted sage. com. I know that you're a professional energy worker and a mystic.
[00:05:00] Okay. Rather than me give a, Awkward intro that won't do you justice. Why don't you tell us a little about yourself? I couldn't find anything cool online,
right
I figured,
Yeah, it's, it's hard to fit
I figured it'd be best.
dimensional human, which we both are, I tell you, I tell you what camera, I still have goosebumps from when, when you first started talking here and just seeing everything. in supporting the bigger you. Gosh, there's just a lot of support. You know, a lot of people talk about that. Oh yeah, there's tons of beans here, but man, it was pretty tangible. And so I appreciate being on your show because you're, you are the real deal, man.
Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that.
Brian Besko, Twisted Sage Studios. We are a small family based business here in the Black Hills of South Dakota. For 14 years, I've been creating the tensor [00:06:00] rings. And these were originally brought through by Slim Sperling in our lifetime. He came to me three years after he passed to teach me how to create these physical tools. And for the past 14 years, I've had the remembrance of creating the Higher dimensional aspect of these tools for lifetime. So I'm known as a master builder because not because I can make circles round, but because I create here and then bring that into the physical the tensor rings, which are created through very specific sacred measurements.
Right. Awesome. That's inspiring.
But
Work. We just simply put the consciousness work into physical tools so that others can more easily access it. So we're just making fields, basically.
yeah, that's a, that is a conversation that not a lot of people are having, you [00:07:00] know about that technology. I, at least I don't see it out there much. Yeah. Cool. I, I am eager to get into more about the tools. But first I
that Slim Sperling encouraged me to create in 2011. As well as giving out those sacred measurements because when slim was alive, he, he did not publicly teach people how to create tensor rings because well, for, for whatever reasons and purposes, but you know, but what really sets us apart from anybody who makes a tensor ring is the etheric templates, the higher dimensional aspects of these tools. Which again is something I've created for lifetimes. And, and of course I have my sister who helps keep me in line. My sister, Brenda, who I speak a lot about because a humble country gal. She is the only person. on the planet that I've met that is always in the heart with her consciousness and not in her head, where we are [00:08:00] influenced and go down rabbit holes of belief and everything else. So my sister, she helps to work with the etheric templates, the higher dimensional aspects of these tools, as well as to help with, Keep me in check. So I don't go down those wild rabbit holes of beliefs that most humans will do when they're in the mind, which we do, we do a three breath technique, which we call going into the sacred space of the heart. And so that's, that's really, you know, it's something that's kind of the basis to all of our teachings, tools and techniques is really about just moving your consciousness from the head. into the physical heart and that's where you're not influenced by the old programs beliefs and all the stuff[00:09:00]
was wondering if. It'd be okay to dig into your own hyper dimensional journey. From you know, I guess on, on your e commerce, on the, on your website you have It's very business oriented, but then you have your videos and your video in your videos, I became very intrigued about your personal origin story and your spiritual journey.
Can we spend a couple minutes on that?
Yeah You know it all started I guess when My sister did healing work for me and that just totally blew my scientific team Part of my brain, really. Know, my sister has always been our, our family doctor, I guess, but really when everything first started that I moved from being science minded college, all that to actually [00:10:00] stepping into, you know, knowing who I am It was, I guess, gosh, about the same time that Slim Sperling came in about the same time that my sister started channeling an energy group called the Elders Three, and they just brought simple, easy tools like going into the sacred space of the heart with three breaths. And they brought through a little symbol called the Trescalian, or as they channeled it in as the symbol of Hettica, the water elemental, and it was working with that little three spiral piece of copper that actually started to break me open to feeling energy. I could not feel energy on my left side. That broke me into feeling energy. It really started to take me down that journey of, of the spirituality of knowing that there is something greater than our physical world. that was also what my sister's healing work did, was it helped me to see that there's something more than just this physical realm. And gosh, 14 years, [00:11:00] man, it has been a skyrocket of a journey. You know, I always considered myself this master angelic warrior, light warrior who was always fighting the dark. I mean, we've done things throughout throughout this journey the first four or five years in my journey. I was, had a partner at the time and she helped me to, to really step in and Be able to see myself on those other dimensional planes because we always did the work.
Cause again, we, we were lightworkers, we fought the dark, you know, and that's, you know, the old traditional form of lightworkers the dark. And that's what we did for many years. And some of these really cool things that we did were we would clear grid systems that were created by the churches. All the Masonic lodges all these places were connected to these old grid systems that were basically forms [00:12:00] of energy feeding, basically you know, you and all of these churches, we saw that every church built before 1946 connected to these grids and there was always a dragon. That was housed because the dragon and against their free will, of course, because the dragons are the ones who create these grid systems. You know, the mostly earth grids are created by the dragons, you know, you can go back Chinese texts and you know, and learn all about the dragon and tiger lines, but you know, so we did a lot of clearing work for even the state capital buildings that were also connected to grids and. You know, we ended up clearing all these grids through the course of about two years, and I wrote a little book about it.
It's not really published, but it's it's out there. I just talks about clearing the grids and with that to throughout my journey. Entity clearing was the big thing. I mean, I could be [00:13:00] walking down the street and somebody would say something really off the wall, strange to me. And I would turn and look, you know, look at metaphysical third eye look and I could see an entity attachment.
And basically it was just trying to get my attention and I would just simply help it. Release the contract that I had with the human and cross, you know, in the very beginning, when I first started doing the energy work, it was with ghosts waywards. My daughter, who turns 14 this summer, she she would have night terrors and. This was when I first started getting into energy work and it was when I first started to see, because we live in this tiny little town and we lived in an old brothel. There used to be like 13 brothels in this little town, but man, packed full of ghosts. And I didn't know anything about it, but man, my daughter who was fresh born did.
And so that's when I really started to, You know, step in and try to figure out what it [00:14:00] was that was causing these issues and I saw the ghosts and that was my first experience with them and learn how to cross them over. So I did a lot of research in the beginning about, you know, working with ghosts, waywards as we call them and learn how to cross them over and. Gosh, I always wanted to create a tool, you know, to the tensor tools. I always wanted to create a tool to cross over a ghost. Because once you start to see a man, they just, they come to you and, you know, I'd go into
Yeah.
or someplace or a grocery store and I'd have to tell them to wait in the car till I could come out and then help them cross over.
And, you know, always call in Archangel Michael and Raphael to help do the healing work and to open a portal to source. But throughout the years, we've actually discovered energies that will cross over a ghost automatically when they come into the field and that energy is called the sacred heart. The golden fire is actually what we call it in our tools. But I was a part of a small group who [00:15:00] actually received that sacred heart activation that, that trifle gold flame heart, you always see Jesus and Mary depicted with, but beyond religion, it is a facet of your soul's light. so we're able to, you know, Gosh, it's been a few years helping people activate that.
We got videos out, we put it into all the tools we create and we've seen some pretty phenomenal healing work with people that activate that golden fire within the heart and they'll use visualization, imagination, intention. They'll take that light and wrap things up. For one instance, my sister is on a phone call with somebody.
She helped them reactivate that sacred heart. They imagined wrapping up this fist sized tumor in their lung. Two weeks later, that tumor was gone. So it's just all facets of us. You know, it's, it's really, to me, the key to everything is consciousness. And that is either how your reality is and [00:16:00] could be your experiences through lifetimes and. Where we are going to right now, it, it all has to do with consciousness because consciousness is everything. So that's kind of where, you know, we really stepped through doing all that, the old style of light work of fighting the dark and all that stuff. And then, you know, everything really changed in 2019.
God, my sister Metatron and Thoth, they just walk with her. I mean, in 1999, when she got her spiritual two by four, her wake up, these two beings appeared, you know, and she's like, who the heck are you, you know, and what are you doing here? And, you know, throughout time, she has become one of the most phenomenal energy healers on the planet. And it's not because she does the work is because she is able to embody her light. She brings in her client, they embody their light as she does hers. And then I just sit there and I've witnessed that it is that person's light who does all of the work [00:17:00] and man, miraculous things. I mean, we hear of miracles and magic every flipping day. You know, through the consciousness work and the tools, but but yeah, so 2019, everything changed because Metatron Thoth, they started to step away. By 2020, I hardly saw any entity attachments anymore. You know, and we're trying to figure out what was going on. And from understanding is, is that all those beings that used to exist on this plane step away because humans are having enough consciousness now. And it's just time. It's time for us to be more self reliant and self, I mean, all that you are.
Right.
It's awesome. I got chills there. Because I, I mean the, the activating the heart thing is really an obstacle for me [00:18:00] and it's kind of like that it's kind of like Anything that you, anything that you know that's good for you, yet you don't do it, you know, you have that, that inner resistance, you know, you need to stop eating carbs, but what do you do?
Yeah. You know, you have a sandwich with bread. So yeah, I, I don't practice. I, I, I don't I have not followed through with that, that specific practice. I did it a couple times. Okay. But that was it. I didn't follow through. It's a, it's a, it's a ongoing obstacle for me, but I'll get there. I'll get there.
I totally understand, man. I mean, I tell you what, this past four years has been kind of, kind of hell for me because I wanted to hold on to everything, identity, you know, I was always scared to shift out of stuff. Definitely addicted to suffering. Oh my God. I think I did that through all my lifetimes, which I think we all did, you [00:19:00] know, there's, there's something to that whole thing where, you know, where, you know, that there's something there beyond, but you're just still holding on.
And there's a lot of reasons for us to hold on and not step through. And it comes down to fear and other. Other things, but yeah, in self worth, that's a big one.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think of the author of the book. It's a well known book. It's the, the war of art, the war of art.
Oh, the art of war.
I think no, no, the war, the war of art. I
Okay. I
but it's, but the whole gist of it is, you know How to how to do things what's happening within you when you are Not doing things that you know, you should be doing and he talks the author [00:20:00] Talks about in this inner resistance this he calls it resistance, you know and that's what you're fighting kind of is that resistance and how to and he goes through ways to on how to Dissolve it Yeah, but yeah, it's an ongoing, right?
used to be so angry at God and creation that that was my resistance. You know, I had to come to peace with that.
What like, do you have, I'm sure it's changed over the years, but do you have, do you still do like a, or did you ever do like a daily routine? I'm finding that I need to do. I need to add things to my daily routine, almost like getting up and, you know, taking a shower and stuff like that. I am finding that I need to [00:21:00] start doing that in the hyperdimensional way.
And just for my energy body and just for my Know, my subtle bodies, my aura, whatever you want to call it. Do you have any practices that you do on the daily or, or, you know, several times a week to help with that?
Yeah. There are so dang many tools that we have discovered and created over the past 14 years. But
So what are, what are your fa what are your favorite that you, you, you've used for you?
So, you know, no matter what, The the trinity breath to go into the heart space because moving from the head into the heart is a huge thing You know truly truly truly just Finding the quiet moments to sit with yourself to sit in the heart and to just [00:22:00] be That to me is the true form of meditation is just being in the heart and sitting with you. And you know, sometimes that takes being out in nature. So for me I'm really lucky because I twist wire every day. And to do that, you have to be in the sacred space of the heart. And so if it wasn't for my work, I probably would not have that daily routine because I too resist a lot of those things that I know are good for me. We have all these tools, but man, putting them into practice is another thing. But the Trinity breath is absolutely the easiest, simplest thing. And it is the basis to, you know, if we do any kind of energy work or meditation or make choices or whatever, if you're have reoccurring thought patterns and you're trying to sleep. we do this thing called the Trinity breath that my sister brought through well, and others too. I mean, Juneville [00:23:00] Malkisa deck talks about it two in a different way, but basically it's just moving the consciousness from the head and into the heart. And man, I'd love to share that if you could.
If you like, it's a pretty quick, easy thing.
Yeah. Yeah, let's let's get do that.
Cool. So basically one of the visualizations of it is that your consciousness is like a little marble marble size sphere of light that sits right behind the pineal gland and it sees out the eyes. It sees the world separate. It's influenced by, by thought patterns. It's influenced by mass consciousness.
It's influenced by, Cold traumas all the stuff, but when we move that into the heart, you know heart math Really, you know heart math really great science based Group that talks about the brain cells within the heart so also there's the whole concept that there's the troidal field the [00:24:00] heart's an electromagnetic field and you just go into that sacred space of the heart. Anyway, three breaths, super simple, easy. So how we do it is, it's easiest if you close your eyes and just put in your attention to your heart. That is where we see the heart. Our soul's light, your soul's fire. We see the seat of the soul there. Imagining connecting heart to heart with the earth, and breathing in that energy of the earth up through the feet, through the body, into the heart. And then next, connecting with you as creator God, as soul. However you see that, breathing in that light of you into the heart. The third breath in the Trinity breath, breathing in the energy of creation, of God, you, the energy of earth, bringing them [00:25:00] both together within the heart where they mix together. And then they extend out to creation and into the earth. So you become the bridge, the conduit between heaven and earth. And it is in that third breath that you move into the heart space. So open your eyes if you can. A lot of people, when they're deep in the heart, it's hard to open your eyes, but when your eyes are open, you can. You see the world differently. You see it from the heart space. For me, when I take the three breaths and move into the heart, my speech, stance, mannerisms, they all change, as well as my thought patterns. And it's an exercise. I mean, you'll get pulled out of the heart space, you know, you start thinking about something or you're driving down the road and get cut off in traffic, whatever, you know, you'll pop back up into the head, but it's, it's an [00:26:00] exercise.
And, you know, the simpler, the better you can do it with one breath, if you'd like. just simplicity. So make it your own process. You know, you can connect with source first if you want. However, simplicity.
So this so this is something that you you do like throughout the day Like when you are just just to be mindful and when you catch yourself, you know up in the head Thinking too much or thinking the wrong and the things that you don't want to be thinking you you come back heart You always come back to the heart
Emotional reactions or else. Things just aren't like you feel like the day is just fighting you, that you're just trying to swim upstream, whatever it all is. Yeah. Going into the heart space you're overwhelmed with, man, what do I do here? I got all these decisions or these places, different directions I can go.
Yeah. [00:27:00] just coming back to the heart. And really that's where, that's where we are very much. That's the seed of the soul as we see it. And when you're in the heart space, it is a place where you can have communication with your higher self, your soul, And if you can sit in there and you can explore I know dreamville McKee's a deck in the flower of life books.
He talks really deep about the sacred seed of the heart and going there and exploring and meeting your guides and how everything is internal is external. You know, you see the stars within the heart, and there's a lot to the sacred heart, but in true simplicity it just brings you into that. Better connection with you where you're not being influenced by all the crap.
Okay.
Makes my [00:28:00] wings flutter. Just the energies and, feeling you feeling it.
Yeah. Okay. I was going to ask another question, but I think you already answered it. So I know it I know it twisted sage. As we've been talking, like, your focus is the tensor technology. We don't probably have time to like deep dive into that. But but I know that there's a lot of information on your website about, about that technology. So that's what was did sage. com, right?
Yeah, and
That's a, that's way to go for that.
know, Cameron, the only reason that I'm so passionate about that, the, the, the tensor technology is because of the consciousness work that we do [00:29:00] for ourselves and for all of creation. And, and it's just that the tools are a way that we can more easily share it. And of course, yes, you did mention we're kind of on, you know, you see us with the mullet, you know, business in front and the metaphysical on the back, know, and and because we're a family business and, you know, gosh, my business manager, my other sister, she's pretty, pretty you know, she's mundane for for lack of better words.
And, you know, so we try to, we try to not, let me step back. My passion is. Expansion of consciousness, expansion of creation, and us stepping into ourselves is a huge part of that expansion of creation and consciousness. And so that's really, if there was one thing I could do, it would be to [00:30:00] just Go out and teach and share this information and not because, you know, a lot of times people catch on to something new and, Oh, you, you know, I feel like a Jehovah when you first catch onto this and knock on the door.
Hey, have you heard of the Merkaba activation? You know, and try to really push those things. But I just really want to you. Bring all this stuff out and have it on the table. Oh, yeah. Every time you order something from Twisted Sage, you get a little Merkaba activation card as my sister walked with Thoth for a number of years and I'd read Drunvalo's books about the Merkaba all that and you know, my sister, Thoth taught her how to reactivate the Merkaba, which is the same way Thoth taught Drunvalo, which was mudras and breath work, and you had to do it for two years every day to keep your Merkaba functioning. I think it was 2015, I did a 20 questions with Thoth and we, and we made it easier, [00:31:00] which we call the Crystal Merkaba, we even have a website, crystalmerkaba. com, where we just. Merkaba stuff because it, it's a new time. It's, it's simple and that isn't just another facet of your light, but it is something that's connected to the physical body.
So the Merkaba is
Mm,
one too, for a meditation. If you ever get bogged down and just want to clear your field, you Merkaba activation in three breaths and you just pop that Merkaba. Geometry out around the body. It's electromagnetic field, everybody who's sensitive to EMS, man, it's an electromagnetic field and you can program it and it'll harmonize everything that comes into your field. There's just so many tools out there in the metaphysical spiritual that we can access that are amazing and life changing. for not only you, but everybody around you, you know, environmental [00:32:00] stuff, columns light, man, that is one of the biggest things that I have been passionate about teaching is how to anchor a column of light and you can anchor it into cemeteries and I'll cross over ghosts.
You can anchor it into cell phone towers who we actually created this thing in 2012 the global love and gratitude grid. we, we anchored in columns of light and we created grids that basically when you drop it into a cell phone tower, the cell phone tower is producing a beneficial energy of love and gratitude on its airwaves. For everybody who's just like in the area, but for those who like see a cell phone tower, because we're powerful creators, you see that cell phone tower, you're like, Oh man, that damn thing's frying me. And that's what comes into your reality creation. But if you're in no
mm,
that cell phone tower and you've anchored a column of light into it, it is actually producing a beneficial energy. So. light columns. And again, we have [00:33:00] that website, global love and gratitude grid. com, teaching the, the light anchors is really a huge thing. And so it's part of my meditation too. That's what I do a lot is if I see something that, you know, as a dense energy in my environment. Just anchor a column of light.
mm. How safe is it to do one of those in your bedroom?
Oh, completely safe. Actually in our workshops, that's what we do is we teach people how to the first thing we do in our workshops for light columns is we, we create a light column in our house. So that way it's like a like a healing space. It's like a space to connect. So you create a light column and that's just your safe, sacred space. you can step into just be. And it's, yeah, it's pretty amazing. Know, and I've taught at the, you know, I've taught at the American society of dowsers. I've actually been a keynote speaker there before, and I teach dowsing people [00:34:00] to basically create light columns. And actually we create dowsing rods too, you can use to close portal vortexes move geomagnetic lines, all kinds of great stuff. But Dowsing is just, it's just another tool. sorry. I have no, I don't know where I was going with that whole thing, but just the, the light columns anchoring columns of light and, and teaching that to people who are doing the environmental work like dowsers and
Yeah.
anybody who wants to, you know, Shift your environment.
So it sounds like that, like you were talking about crossing wayward, wayward souls before. It sounds like that's, that's like one of the main methods that you can use that will that
Yeah. Yeah, totally. That's, you know, I also do a lot of ghost busting one on one classes and you know, not as much anymore, but yeah, that is [00:35:00] really the, the tool to use for, for crossing over ghosts is that those columns of light and, you know, as you mentioned, we have that YouTube channel and we have all the different ones like light anchoring 3.
0. I think it's called. There's a lot of light anchoring videos we've done over the years since 2012 and those are all out there and you know, and the thing is, is that we create the higher dimensional tools. So everything is created here first and then brought into the physical. So there are quantum tool.
So we give people the attunements and activations. To be able to access these quantum tools without having to have the physical tools and that is something amazing too. So, you know, cause to me, I'm not a huge salesman. I don't like to push the physical tools as much as I do how to access those fields and use them a physical tool, [00:36:00] but the tools are
All right. The tools are cool. the tools. The tools are like you know, the old school idea of just like, you know, they're, they're a fo a focus, A fo foci, foci, foci, FOCI that, that you can focus that with a specific energy, with a specific purpose. Right.
Yeah. And they hold fields so that if you decide one day, you're just going to go on autopilot and not worry about trying to do, know, not going to ground. I'm not going to connect and take my three breaths. I'm just going to walk through life, man. Yeah. That's, that's where the tools can be in support because they do help to balance ground, align, connect. clear and,
Right,
and to me, the tools are training wheels. They, they, they show us that you can do these things a lot [00:37:00] of us, because we're human and this is the way we've done it for lifetimes, eons. You know, we, we need that thing that's outside of us. You know, we need that tool to help us anchor a calm of light for a lot of people.
It's, it's a mental thing. But in true reality,
right,
once you know something, that's why they're training wheels, once you know it. You know, you can do it. You don't need the tool anymore.
right. I I, I'm not sensitive enough to, right now, like I'm pretty in my own way. I'm pretty sensitive. But when it comes to like, when I'm awake, waking consciousness I don't have that sensitivity to that type of thing right now. What? Well, how? What would you recommend like for someone like me that is interested in this stuff?
But you know, if Yeah, like I got your, your heart coil, the, the quantum heart [00:38:00] coil.
Mm
I can't, when I am deep in meditation, I could feel that. But, When I'm just like, if I take those, the, the, even if I take the, the three breaths and I, you know, I'm calm and I'm quiet, but I'm awake, I can't get there. I can't feel it.
Is there, what's that, what's a bridge that you, is there a bridge that you can recommend that I can build? For that level of sensitivity. Does that make sense?
does make sense. There's, you know, two, two little split answers real quick on that. One is, you know, you said it, taking the three breaths to go into the heart space because whenever I'm showing people the tools, they're like, ah, I can't feel it. I just walk them through the three breaths to go into the heart space. When they're in the heart space, then most people can feel those energies of the tools that, that I'm working with, like it shows and things, but the other thing is [00:39:00] when I was with my path partner and we were doing all that clearing out and all the other Planes you know, the church grids, all that stuff I couldn't see in the beginning.
I had to rely on her and trust her. And I'd verify it with like my sister who could also see, even doing readings on the tools I could not see. So every night before I went to bed, I'd go into the heart space. And I would just talk to my soul. And at the time I was like, Hey, you know, I had this whole long list of things.
I would say like, give me all the activations and attunements and understandings to be able to see, you know, and, and whatever your words are, because that's the thing is that when you talk to your soul, You don't need specific words because it totally understands what it is that you're asking without the words, but the words just help to, it helps you. so to me it is just being in that quiet space of the heart and talking to your soul or [00:40:00] your life or your higher consciousness or however you see this more part of you, not a bigger, a grander, a more part of you. However you see that, just make your. Make your wishes known for what it is that you want to experience in this life that can be to have those sensitivities or that site. For me, when I got my site, all I could see was. Entities and dark stuff, you know, because that was a part of my path. You know, I kind of almost regretted in the beginning of really wishing and wanting and desiring to be able to see because man, did I get it? And, you know, but again, it's a beautiful thing.
But yeah, just working, working with you. Working with your consciousness is really, to me, again, the answer to everything.[00:41:00]
That's a, yeah. Trying to feel into that. I start to get emotional because there's definitely a lot of, I definitely have blocks and you know I, I guess I start to tell myself, well, you know, what's, what's keeping you back with what's keeping you back from like embracing that the power, right. The, that, that scepter of, okay.
Of sovereignty and power. Right? What's keeping you back? What? And I'm like, consciously, I'm like, I don't know what's keeping me back. But there is something
Yeah, man.
there is,
So I would love to share with you because I think I see you feel it. Because man, in the beginning, when we first started talking here and your light, man, your light's [00:42:00] freaking phenomenal and it is grand and big and bright. And it's always there, to me, what the answer really is to all blocks of abundance, to light, to understanding, to clarity is making a clear conscious choice. Because when we come in, we carry all of our ancestors crap. Our body's not really ours. We inherit it from our ancestors. You know, we have mass consciousness. We have old lifetime traumas. We have our own belief structures that are handed down throughout time. All of this stuff, and even in an old lifetime where you made an oath, vow, promise, You know, for whatever it is even, you know, a vow of poverty, of that kind of stuff.
Those are the blocks that we come in with. And how we release those is going into the [00:43:00] heart space and making a clear, conscious choice. Saying, you know what, soul? What, you know what, me, consciousness, however you want to say it, interact, I'm done. I, I let this go. I, I choose to release those blocks, those limitations. To my light, to my abundance, to my health. And so, you know, that's what I've been teaching for about four years now is, is making clear conscious choices and especially, you know, the things that we don't want. that come up. We just say, Hey man, I'm letting that go. And again, when you're in the heart space and you make that choice from the heart and tell you what lot of times we do that and when we, we feel like we mean it, you know, Hey, I'm, I want to get rid of this block, but yet there's still a part of us that's holding onto that sucker, man.
There's one
[00:44:00] Quick I'll share that I call the soul altar. And basically it is just when you're in the heart space. Well, something comes up you know, like, like your thought here of, of this block. You just use your imagination that you have this altar. To me it's like this little pillar, you know, and it has a little flat top on it and that's my soul altar. What you do to make this clear conscious choice is you just imagine your block or whatever it is that you want to release. imagine taking that and setting that down onto that little altar and then you stepping away. And you taking the step away from it is truly saying, okay, am actually done. I'm not playing anymore. I'm not saying that I'm done, but yet still holding onto it. release it. And you know, when you can truly let those things go, wild because [00:45:00] Maybe a day or two later, you're like, Hey, I think I was trying to release something, but I have no idea what the hell it was because it's gone. If it is still there, you know, our thoughts are that it is still serving you in some way. But yeah, clear conscious choice using the soul altar is really a great one because again, that's just a ceremony for the mind is what that is.
right. That's powerful. I like that.
Cool. Let's get into a little bit about the I know it's like one of the first things that when we met at the the, what was it? The life the life.
in LA,
Yeah. Conscious life. Yeah. You were telling me about the heart [00:46:00] coil, but you're also telling me about another one. What? One of the one of the wands.
What, what was, what's the wisdom one?
wand.
So the difference between, let's just start with the, let's start with the wisdom one and then we'll go to the harcoil because I'm really interested in both and the difference between both.
Yeah. So they both come from the same energy, which is just what we call the wisdom energetics. So quick story. Every time I would step on my, jump on my motorcycle, I would totally see myself rolling across the highway. My daughter's standing there mourning my death for two weeks. This went on. And I was like, man, what is this premonition?
No, man, I don't want this. Call my sister. What's going on? It was awesome. of old lifetime that was projecting its traumas through me. [00:47:00] And if I would have allowed it, it would have into physical reality. Interesting thing is the past four or five years, most people that we see that have something going on, physical, mental, emotional life situation WTF, I don't want this. We're finding that it is always tied to an old lifetime trauma. And what we discovered is, is that in this Ascension process that we're stepping into is, is that all of these lifetimes and experiences are coming home through us to soul and they get stuck in this. Sometimes we entertain them and we hold onto them and then they manifest their shit into our world. see this time and time again. And so that was when I first started to understand that integration of those lifetimes [00:48:00] that is where the wisdom wand came in and all the teachings that went behind that in the soul altar is one of those, one of those tools that we use, because basically we call it wisdom because as your soul, we have source. Then soul and then soul has all of these experiences and all these potentials, all these lifetimes, not just here. I mean, soul is soul is everything that you are. so are the lifetimes and experiences. It's like we see the human as like this designated ascendee of all your lifetimes here on earth that we are, this lifetime is when most of us are stepping in Instead of being an ascended master who leaves and leaves all of his lifetimes behind, we are stepping in as embodied masters, which means that we are going to bring all of this but anyway, what we see is, is that as we bring in your soul has this [00:49:00] lifetime and that is nothing more than your light that is tied up into a lifetime or experience. So when you bring that back and you give it to soul, Soul hands it back to you as what we call wisdom. What we are seeing is that the deeper, darker dive you take in a lifetime, the more light and wisdom your soul elicits from that experience. And so as we begin to do this work, and this work happens automatically, the human can't do it, but the human can hold on to the crap and not allow it to happen. Well, it's going to happen anyway, but just be more painful. But as we bring more of those lifetimes and experiences to wisdom, you amass consciousness and light. Your soul is brighter because of the experience that are brought to wisdom. And that is truly why we created the wisdom [00:50:00] wand because again, a lot of times that people have physical things going on, You go into the heart space, you run the energy to that physical thing and you'll know that it is energetic, especially when that physical pain moves through the body. basically, and again, this is just a tool and you don't need the tool, all you're doing is that this is the training wheel. This is helping you bring, like you said, bring in your awareness. to what is going on. So basically when you are wanting, you were just simply bringing your divine awareness, your light to what this old trauma or stuck energy is. It's brought to wisdom. This clears up. And that includes. Situations reactions. when I was working with this energetic, and again, you don't need the tool. You can simply do that soul alter exercise. Anytime I would have a [00:51:00] emotional reaction to something or else something would happen. I'm like, well, why am I experiencing this?
You know, like a book drops on your toe or whatever. You're like, what? You stop going to the heart space. Yeah. And it's a soul. After I did this for 18 months, was at peace for what I felt like was the first time in any lifetime. It's like I was standing in this loud, crowded room all of my life and I was not aware of it. until it was gone. And it is all that chatter of the lifetimes. This even includes ego. I mean, I also did several classes on basically helping to release ego from its old constructs. It's old, it's old job so that I could step in alignment with soul into a new way of creating. So anyway, that's the wisdom wand.
Now, the quantum heart coil, which is the small coil pendant, it's the [00:52:00] same feel, well, it's the same energy, but that little coil, when I, we call it an empath filter, because I see that when you put it on your soul, your light consciousness comes in, puts this, what I presents to me is this red fibrous cocoon around you, allows in the information. not the crap. And that is, you know, kind of the blessing and curse of an empath is, is that you take, you receive all the crap and then you can't tell what's yours and what's theirs. You just experienced their shit, which, you know, is not fun. So it's, it's the whole concept of standing behind a short wall where you can see and witness things that are going on out there, but you don't have to be in it. But again, you can do that. With clear conscious choice, you don't need the tools, clear conscious choice to take on those energies or not. Cause [00:53:00] truly. What is yours? It's what you choose to carry. That is what is yours. It can be all the drama, traumas. It can be all the shit. It can be these funky experiences. Or you can say no. You know, and, and to me, as we are stepping into our power as we were stepping into becoming creators, conscious creators of interfacing consciousness and energy, That the first thing we do is we start to release those things that no longer serve us, we begin to uncreate creation and You know, I could tell you stories and stories.
I mean, we found the chalice energy in 2018, which was this crystal clear, pure consciousness light duality, the yin and the yang, which is the balance, the driving force of all creation, the dark and the light. This chalice energy, as we call it, it's just crystal clear, pure light. It doesn't fight the dark, doesn't take sides with [00:54:00] the light.
It just is. And then that system just releases. And that was the first energy that we saw that we were able to uncreate creation. I got invited to Guatemala to go teach teach a class during a big ceremony there several years ago. at some of the, I don't even remember the name of the pyramids down there.
They were the ones that were on Star Wars. Anyway, that pyramid complex was down there teaching. I wanted to make shaman's wands to give to all the shaman down there in Guatemala. I made these shaman's wands. I had this hiatal hernia, which is the stomach that flips upside down. Six years, man. I walked with this, my sister and none of our, People could clear this thing. It was always related to emotions. I made the shaman wand with that chalice energy down, I put a bubble around it. minutes later I got up and I could find that that hernia was never, ever, even ex in [00:55:00] existence. It cleared the existence. And that reality of even having that hernia never came back. And that was the first time that we saw. yes, that's what we are doing is we were stepping in to be in creators by first on creating creation, which no longer serves us. And there's several examples all along the way of doing that.
Interesting.
so yeah, I tell you it's it's a beautiful, beautiful time to be to truly just be in the heart space and just be with yourself. Allowing is the fricking big word surrender, surrender. A lot of people have problems with surrender, but allowing, allowing things in that radical self acceptance, allowing things to be as they are. We don't do healing work anymore. We allow whatever it is to be, and then it shifts. I tell you my, yeah,
Mm hmm.
a hard time doing healing anymore with people because people want to know, well, what did you see?
What did you do? And what happened? It's like, well, [00:56:00] just had you accept it kind of as it is while you, you're standing in your heart and in your light and. Once you quit fighting something, it releases. It goes out of
Mm
but the more we fight anything closer it comes into reality You know, whether you're fighting abundance or you're fighting a relationship or you're fighting a healing man Surrender to that stuff Radical acceptance and then it shifts.
That's the new paradigm. It's a tough one. It's a damn tough one, but You it's where we're going works. It works.
hmm. Mm hmm.
Interesting. Yeah, I'm very interested about the, to feel that, the chalice energy that you're [00:57:00] talking about.
It's actually in
I
we create and it is, it is, it covers the world. It's an energy that has been here since the beginning of this world that was created for duality, for the expansion of consciousness, basically for, for experience But this chalice energy has been here long before duality. so this chalice energy really, all you have to do is really bring your awareness to it. All it is, is just a space of knowing that there's something beyond the duality. And so the chalice energy again, it's, it's, it's permeates, it's, it's in all of existence. So all you have to do is be in the heart space and just allow it to be there. And it comes through, you know,
feel like there are,
yeah, please go ahead.
I feel like there are beings out there that [00:58:00] specialize in that. I, I, I have experienced like dragons specifically that Can like that. It's just part of their nature to be able to do that. And, and things, things resolve in such a way that, you know, I was, I was, when I started my spiritual path, I was immediately because of the darkness that I experienced, I was, drawn to you know, psychic protection psychic warfare, spiritual warfare.
And it actually, interestingly, it actually that entrance into psychic development and spiritual development actually brought me all the way around, you know, to what ultimately is, is spiritual evolution, the evolution of consciousness and [00:59:00] stuff like that. But you know, I, what I was stuck in that paradigm that you were talking about before in your own journey about, you know, seeing everything is dark versus light, dark versus light.
And I don't deny that. I don't, I don't deny that there is dark, that there is evil. But there's different ways to deal with it. There's different ways and, and getting myself to in the moment, in the moment of the altercation, being able to stop, take a step back and like you're saying, go straight into the heart and Let the heart, you know, a lot of people, a lot of, for a lot of people, they call it love.
And, and for me, it's, it's not exactly love, but you know, maybe my [01:00:00] own interpretation of love is different than others, but it's more like you know, it's more like truth. It's more peace. It's like a combination of these, these values all in one that don't, there's not like a, I guess you can have a duality, I guess you can say truth and lie, but I also see that there's just truth as a holistic thing, right?
And, and when you're talking about this chalice energy, truth, peace, peacemaking, that's what, and then from the heart, you know, from the, it's not a, it's not a, it's not a intellectual concept, from the heart. And that stops, like, a lot of, a lot of altercations that I continue to get into, it stops it cold.
But I have, I have to be [01:01:00] able to drop into that, which I'm not successful at. A lot, you know, that's, that's my challenge.
Yeah. And it's tougher in the heat of the moment for sure, man. When you're in any kind of peer fear, pain, body in the moment of the stuff, man. Yeah. It is tough. And that's, we're just practicing, you know, going into that heart space to where, you know, you can get it to where you can do it in a breath and try to do it before things build up to where you just can't get there. And
Yeah.
but yeah, no, I, like I say, man, it's, you are a pretty phenomenal light and it's, it's,
you.
it's right there with you. It really is.
Cool. So let's go. Is there, is there any other tools that you wanted to talk about that you wanted to bring up? I
Oh man.
Know you have a lot.
have a [01:02:00] lot, we have everything from, you know, EMF mitigation. You know, cell tab, household electric. This is an AI interface ring, which a lot of people are scared of. Cause it just brings your light and consciousness in artificial intelligence. It's not like you're allowing artificial intelligence come into you. This one's for laptop computers and you know, cause it's just. It's all about light and consciousness, AI is and it's just a reflection of our consciousness. But so we have a lot of stuff for EMF and, you know, we've done several biofeedback studies that are published out there. also make the water rings for dancing with water, the new science of water, and they've done a lot of research.
So there's a lot of science behind. you can create Ormus out of your drinking water. These contain the highest paramagnetic value out of anything tested according to Dr. Um, the doctor who knows about paramagnetics. but his name is on the tip of my tongue, but anyway, [01:03:00] the, there's a lot of science with these, but you know, really our passion is. is really integrating embodying your light. we make several things like we have, gosh, I'm here in the studio where we have it. I could probably move the camera. a ton of light chambers, this, the Ascension pyramids. That's our original Ascension Pyramid. That big tall steel chamber way back there, that was our original Ascension Chamber. Yeah, we just have another chamber behind me, but these all are just powerful sacred spaces to be in. You know, so we make things from the small jewelry all the way up to these giant light chambers. And, and again, the tools are cool, but man, I definitely don't want to really be here promoting, Hey man, check out these tools and buy them.
But [01:04:00] rather have people have these experiences with with their own divinity, their own light through the ways that we hold space. Because then. tools become a lot more tangible and interesting, you know, like the creation field tools we've moved from after you integrate all of your wisdom most of your wisdom, the creation field is the next energetic.
And that's the same with like our coils. We have the wisdom energetic coils, like the quantum heart coil. And then we have the creation field style. then we still make the golden fire tools for those who still want to play in the world of light versus dark you know, and, and the wands for anchoring light, if you're really into that whole light versus dark, that's the, you know, but they're much more than that because as you step up in consciousness, does the work that you do.
So when we first started anchoring light, it was all about the light [01:05:00] versus dark. Now, when we anchor light is about bringing more consciousness and light to the planet. so I guess, you know yeah, do check out our twisted sage. com website and our YouTube channel is, has a lot of stuff on it, but really, man, what I would just like everybody to take away with today is just knowing that. There's great tools out there like the Trinity breath to go into the heart space. And to me, that is absolutely the biggest thing that you can do. is going into the heart space. And you know, if you are interested in the tools, you know, do decide to go to the website and you're overwhelmed because we have probably like a hundred products there. I tell everybody is that the energy comes through the tools. Don't look at the descriptions or the names, just go into the heart space and your, your light, your consciousness will draw you to what it is that will most assist you in [01:06:00] that time. And yeah, it's, I don't know. It's a, really is a beautiful world out there once we can get out of the whole the hole that we've put ourselves in.
I guess that's a good way to say it.
Yeah. Okay, cool, man. All right. So this is a little segue into what I call the, the totally random question segment. Um, this, okay. This is totally random. It's a, it's a little bit controversial, which I'm okay with. And this is not the first or last time I'll probably get, get into this. But recently I think.
I've gotten triggered a lot regarding the idea of spiritual ascension. And, and how like our spiritual communities, [01:07:00] especially online use this concept to sell stuff, to sell courses and tools and you name it, you know, healing. In essence, in essence, I believe in ascension. And, but I think it's all become like a marketing gimmick.
Yeah.
I'm, I'm, I guess I'm just getting, I get irritated about how, how much this term and concept has been hijacked. So, like I said, I know this is kind of random per our, our, Discussion so far, but I guess it could, it's a little bit part of it, but but do you, do you believe in, like, let's say, do you believe in spiritual ascension?
And like, what's your definition of ascension? And what are your thoughts on the subject?
Yeah, because I touched on it a little bit here during the talk, because basically to me, ascension is, [01:08:00] word that I prefer to use for ascension is realization. And realization is basically knowing that have consciousness, which is you, you have energy, which is all you. is energy and everything is your energy. And that it is. understanding and melding. Well, it's the understanding that those two are always melded together and that we are here to just experience those as the human. So to me, ascension is a different perspective of a knowing and an understanding that we are not here stuck in this matrix and oh poor me and these things are happening to me. Ascension realization to me. Is knowing that everything is your energy and your energy is here to serve you. And when you become a master is when you allow energy to serve you in a whole different [01:09:00] way, instead of the energy to serve you for soul growth, learning, experience that you are allowing energy to serve you, to bring you joy, to just have experiences and what we call a higher potential. so. To me, part of this whole Ascension thing has been me, the work that I've done for clearing all these grid lines, this church grids, the all these different grid systems were holding us in a certain level of consciousness, that part of that is for me and what my work has been here on this planet in the past 15 years is the releasing of not only some of those limiting things but, Bringing us more in touch of with who we are you know, cause I had mentioned about how like some of the ascended masters like Jesus, Buddha, Tobias, some of these, you know, St.
Germain, [01:10:00] some of these guys who, who ascend, again, it's not like they, they, they stay here not like they take all their lifetimes to me, part of what we are doing that we are doing that has never been done before, or. is integrating these lifetimes back to soul. So to me, truly the whole end game of it all, where, where we start with soul, we become, or we start with, I am, I am God source. We become soul. We fractal out into all these experiences. And to me, we are right here now to where we're bringing all these experiences together to where we step into sovereignty. me, that is what ascension is, is when we step into our own sovereignty as this multifaceted gem of who we are, [01:11:00] because we have all these soul aspects. All of these lifetimes and experiences, that as we bring those into wisdom, then we become this. And I, why I say a multifaceted gem is because each of those facets of your soul is one of those lifetimes or experiences that has come into wisdom, into completion, create the concept
Mm,
love to share. is energy and everything is your energy. That includes people. This is a wild concept and I've lost a lot of friends over this one, but I'm going to stick with it. That everything is your energy and is here serving you. And when you have another person, you and me, it is not, you're, you are not a soul being within my energy.
There's no soul beings within your energy, but it is a ray of your consciousness from your soul. Your soul light, a [01:12:00] ray of your soul is interacting my energy. And then that is who you become. And so crazy concept because we created this thing. One of our newest chambers the creation field chamber almost a year old. And it's like, when you step in there, we step into the zero point space. We call it the nothing space. Light, your light comes in and patterns energy differently and that what is your energy patterns are also people in your interactions with people. And I see that once we really allow our light to shine out into all of our creation, that your interactions with people change and people themselves change. but it's, it's this whole concept of, of becoming whole and complete and unifying. It's not like, Hey, we're [01:13:00] all becoming one. It's me and you and every soul being within my reality. We're all going to be one just like we were at source. No, oneness when we step through the realization ascension.
When we become the multifaceted gem that we are at yeah, you know, that, that whole explaining where everybody's your energy. I did not do a very good job of explaining that one. That one's kind of a, of a deeper rabbit hole where you have to cover a lot of other bases. I tried to cover it glaze over the top, but I know I really didn't to the meat of this thing, but I planted the seed. Concept which just basically it's just, it's more empowering, it's more empowering because you know, knowing that everything is your energy and let's say that somebody does something, you know, that causes you a reaction [01:14:00] that you know that they're not doing it for, you know, a purpose of hurting you or, you know, something outside of you. And that is really the key. The key to this is that there's nothing outside of you, not the one percenters, not the government, not the the Bill Gates, the chemtrails, whatever it is is outside of you. There's nothing outside of you and you have the power to change everything in your reality creation.
Cause everything is your energy. And so you change your relationship with those things. they change. Yeah. And that's,
yeah,
that's just part of doing the consciousness work, the real true light work duality.
yeah,
It's bringing in your light, which is consciousness and bringing more of [01:15:00] your light and consciousness into all of creation. And that changes everything. to me, once we learn to master that, that is ascension. Realization is when we are able to master and energy.
mm, yeah, awesome. That yeah, that idea that all energy is your energy that's I used to work with a Tibetan shaman, like very old school dude, very old school, like, and his lineage was not his lineage was ultimately like, you know, beyond 15, 000 years ago when, you know, before patriarchy and before certain things happened in the world.
And he has, he would talk about that and he would talk [01:16:00] about some practices that he would do where he would do healing. And that's basically that at the very foundation of the healing is that he would look at the outside energy as his own energy. And then what, and then in his own, in his own mind, he has to truly perceive that energy as being healed.
And then the person And then that would, that would create healing in the person. I'm sure I don't, I don't, I don't completely understand every, everything, every part of it. I'm still trying to understand a lot of the things that he was trying to teach me. But that's what it sounds like. You're, you're talking about a little bit and like you, like you were saying, that's a rabbit hole.
That's like a, you know, let's take a few weeks on that concept.
No, yeah, no, man. [01:17:00] That's, that's the way, that's the way we began doing healing too is, yeah, you, you, because instead of projecting onto somebody, oh yeah, you're sick and help them confirm what their reality is. You're like, no man, you are grand and you are all incomplete and there's absolutely nothing that matter with you. And yeah, projecting that. And yeah, that, that really is a great way because really what, what we perceive so much with, with our, not only our heart based imagination, but our mental stuff when our beliefs creates our reality. And the more that you can see it in, you know, I would say that positive way, the more it steps in to reflect that for you, because you are creator.
Yeah.
Cool. I think, I think [01:18:00] we, we've, we've gone on, it's been a while. I think we were, we're good. Right. I pulled, I pulled a lot out of you. yeah, I want to thank you for coming on and And I hope that this gets to a lot of people out there, you know, Hey, whether it's, whether it's right away or over time hopefully our conversation can connect people with, you know, with your work and with the ideas behind your work.
Right. Yeah.
you, Cameron. Yeah. It's been an honor to be here and it's been an honor to be in this space because this has been just a beautiful, wonderful space that That you created and, and we co created and you facilitated. So thank you very much. And thank you for the opportunity of getting out to see new people out there.
So hope you all enjoyed it and got some great things out [01:19:00] of here because I know there was a lot of energy shifts that I could feel from those who will be watching this at one point in time. And that's it is that the spaces that we hold and the energy work that we do, the conscious work that we do right now. Is also, right now, truly is.
Hmm. Yeah. Awesome, man. All right.
yay.
Talk to you.
