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All right, we're back at it, all right, Chuck Dizzle
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live in direct keeping it home grown. Salute to everybody
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Angeles or any iHeart stations, I appreciate you. Okay, in
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the building with me right now. The biggest bucko alright,
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my man producer DJ artists now this new album all
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right born my man Python.
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P is here the biggest buckle here with Chuck.
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It's crazy to see you in artists mode. Man, talk
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about this transition to finally you know, you're used to
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being behind the sound of theduction and shaping the sound
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for a lot of artists out here. And let you
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talk your issue a minute. But how is it now
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to come like step in the forefront as an artist
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and drop your first project.
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No, it's a it's a long time coming then you right,
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Like I became a producer, yeah, because I wanted to
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stay behind the scenes and not be in the forefront.
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So you know, it's a lot of me being uncomfortable.
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I mean even me being like a tour DJ, like
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I had no idea I was going to do that.
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So I mean me being in front of thousands of
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people who are having to talk to people, and now
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me just putting myself out there as an artist, you know,
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coming up with an album. So let me know, this
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is this is a long time coming, Like I've been
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wanting to do a project for years, but you know,
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everything is timing.
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So so why why now? Because you've you've produced for
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the likes of so many people. Man, And what made
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it this year or was it something that you wanted
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to do prior that you were like, Okay, I got
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to actually step outside and show people and showcase my
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talent and my creativity and really be step out in
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the forefront.
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No, yeah, it's trust me, it's been alone time coming
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doing this, But like I said, everything is timing. I
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be wanting to do this maybe five six years ago,
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but you know I've always kind of like put it off.
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It was just never a good timing for me.
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And now.
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You know, I just went all for it because like
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you said, I built myself up as far as relationships
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with artists, my cachet of just my brand and who
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I am. So now it's the perfect time because now
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I can do the songs that I want and work
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with my favorite artists and people I want to work with,
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and you know, I'm fans of them. And then they
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also like, you know, fan, I want to say, a
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fan of me, but you know they're familiar in their friends.
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I think it's a combination of all of that.
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So I mean just me being able to call on,
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you know, you know, my favorite artist because now relationship
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is built and they can get songs done for me,
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you know what I'm saying, versus maybe five six years ago.
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I'll give them a call, I let you I'll let
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you know. You know what I'm saying.
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But so, what was the who was the last artist
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that you were? Like, Damn, I'm actually linking with them
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and they know who I am based off of my
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resume and what I do.
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Know I'd be surprised all the time.
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But just think about the last one that that that
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that comes to mind, Like, damn, because I know it's
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I know it's a few, a few, but I know
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it's it's multiple, you know, multiple people, but which which
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one for you was the last one was the last time?
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You're like, oh damn, okay, they know about me.
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No, for sure, I would say, well just recently there's
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so many, but just recently now it's Jewish from from Underachievers.
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Wow. Yeah, Underchievements like a legendary group.
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So my my homie reached out to him, was like, yo,
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you should work with Python then, and he told me so.
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So then I reached out to him. I was like, bro,
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you know what I'm saying. I love the work. He's like, bro,
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I know who you are, like you you fire, you.
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Don't have to do that.
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Yeah, I know what you And I'm so used to
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doing that, you know what I'm saying my whole career
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of having to pitch myself. But now like I can
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just like if I see someone. I remember when I
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when I met Jay Cole, he was like, no, yeah, yeah,
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I know who you are, bros.
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Yeah.
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And I'm sitting there like trying to, like I said,
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pitch myself and He's like, nah, bro, I know you are.
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You know, I know the work you know with you
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and soul and this and that. So I'm like, okay,
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let's get past that, then let's work. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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yeah yeah, Like like now I can be like forceful,
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Now what's up.
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It's get some working, you feel me. So just just.
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For for people that may be seeing you, you know,
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because again you behind the scenes, so a lot of
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people may not have seen you or may not see you,
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or when they do see you, they're like, oh damn,
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that's that's give them the roller decks. Give to give them,
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you know, run off the resume of people that you've
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produced for. So people got to know, you know, who
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the biggest buck go with.
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No, for sure, I've worked with Rhapsody, j Cole, Bennie
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the Butcher, I worked with Punch, I worked with Jay Rock,
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I don't worked with I don't their commercials for Levi's who.
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And I know I'm leaving so many I don't work
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with bost work with Sir. Like I said, I know
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I'm leaving saw me off the table. But that's how
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that's how much like like well, I'm learning how to
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be present to where like I recognize and I you know,
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I appreciate the things I've done, but it's so like
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fleeting to when I work with people I just keep
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but it really be a lot of producers that I'll
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be so like, I'll more so be appreciative, are happy
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that I've that I work with, Like knighte Wunder, I've
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been a studio. I've been a studio with him and
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like I'll play something or you know, I'll be with
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so he'll play so he'd be like, bro, who's this
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And he's like that's probably He's like, bro.
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You so hard. I'm sitting there like, hey, yo are alchemist.
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Alchemists will like alchemist will text like two eleven like, bro,
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that song you got here? That's my boyfriend will tell
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him he cold. So when they're telling me this, I'm like, okay,
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now now I'm like, you can't tell me.
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That's got to be a confidence booster right now now
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that you don't you know, you're not confident about your
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style and what you do, but it's always reassured when
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you got legends and people that you look up to
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that that that are confirming, like okay, you you know
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you got that. One of the ones that I saw recently, Man,
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you was in a studio with David Banner bro and
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it was so fun. So how was it a studio
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with you with Mick Jenkins shout out to him, and
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you had David Banner on on FaceTime and I don't
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think Mick was paying attention what was going on? What's
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up to?
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And Mick was like, oh ship David Bantner like know
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that messed him up?
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That wass No, No, that's that's that's so special to
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me because when we met him right before we went
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on his last tour, we met him at a studio
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in Pasadena and we just hit it off. But the
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ladship I have with him, it's I mean, it's it's
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crazy because he's like a brother to me. Now he's
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like a big brother, like you know, I can call
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on him and he actually, Man, it's just special to
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me because he actually calls me just to check on
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me how I'm doing. We done did like a couple
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of songs now together. But now he has a special
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place for my heart, like for sure, man Like like
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just for him to call me all the time and
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he lets me know about his day. He checks on
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me and my mentor it's not just about like what
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you're doing, what you got? Well you know what I'm saying,
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what beat you got? No, he just wanted to call
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and talk to me, so you know that. Yeah, so
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he's he's dope as hell. Man, Let's take it back.
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To the beginning because for the folks that may not know, Man,
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Python p you you I've heard you explain it before,
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but just for the context of the conversation, the name
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started off as an inside joke.
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You know, it's it's so it's it's so many stories,
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so you know, if you know, you know, but you know,
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I'm from a I'm from a click that we started
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and at cross a high call top notch, and so yeah,
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it was like a thing we had within each other
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where we was like always called each other a snake,
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like we was all like it was like a thing
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we had for maybe like like a like a summer.
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Were just called each other that. So it for some
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reason was like you a snake, you was saying, man,
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matter of fact, you a python.
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And then I used to have a gap. Yeah, so
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it was yeah, so it was the whole thing that,
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like you got the whole with the fight down.
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The slipping, it was all that. Yeah.
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So so yeah so that so yeah, so that actually stuck.
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But it was more so like the homies just kept
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calling me that and then I literally just like changed
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my Twitter handle from something else to that, and it
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just and it just became that.
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Like and this is like two thousand and six, I
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That's why. So was this prior to production? So this
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is just the homies. I love how names like that
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just kind of stick just based off of that, like yeah, yeah,
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folks shooting on each other left and right.
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It's not always like majestic, it's not always like it's
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just it came from God.
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I know. It literally was just like it was ragging on.
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That's it now, Now let's let's get into the you know,
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you said the Carson and obviously a lot of people
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link you to apps, so you being is tour DJ
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and that relationship first and foremost, But talk about the
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early days and production because you guys have this, uh,
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this relationship you know of brotherhood, right Todd Notch like
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from from from Jump and I think that that kind
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of works into you guys' relationship as far as on
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the music side as well. But when was that first
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time where you're like, oh damn, okay, I got something
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or how did you guys kind of form that relationship
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from homies to now doing you know, collaborating music wise.
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But like you said, it literally started from homies, just
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like I'm known to since tenth grade, you know, from
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Carson High and then even after high school, like he
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got kicked out of his mom's house and he had
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to come live with me, you know what I'm saying,
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and this like it's a roommate. We're gonna get there,
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because that's a whole nothing. But it was amount of
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time where like my parents were moving to Nashville, and
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so when they moved to Nashville, they left me the
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whole house. And when I was living in Compton, they
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just they say, look be selling this house, but you
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can live here for a few years.
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You know, saying by yourself. I'm I'm eighteen nineteen, just
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now got out.
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It was crazy, yeah, yeah, And so this is the
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same time, and like I said, it's almost fake because
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this round the same time where Saul gets kicked out
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of his house.
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So he's like and so he's like Pete, like can
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I come.
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Stay with you? I'm like, I guess for sure. And
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so when my parents left, it was literally just me
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and him in the house.
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We was like, bro, we really got.
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This whole house to ourself like this is crazy, like yeah,
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so we just so, yeah, we just and that's when
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our bond it was like really formed, you know, just
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live with each other and like for so long and
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just going through so much was.
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He working on where you guys it was the music
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at that point were starting to kind of get where
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you started production at.
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That No, no, no, And this was two thousand and seven,
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so around this time he was just just starting out,
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you know, you know, getting in with TDE you know
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what I'm saying, and you know, going to you know,
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Stevenson and recording over there. But even before then, I
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was like like I was always with him going to
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like studios and like before he was with TD's with
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Street Beat, and I was going with him to interview
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to record, So I was always around him when it
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comes to like you know, recording and music. And the
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way I got into it is I just started recording
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music myself, like with the homies, like like the homie
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will have a house and Carson and I'll be the
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one like I'll record, y'all, I'll record it. So my
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my intro and the music that started there.
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So it was more or less going you know, being
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being homies following around and then said, oh, you know,
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I can create value and I'll do it. I don't
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want to wrap, I'll do it.
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All the homies wanted to rap, so I'm like, yeah,
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so I'll be the one to record y'all.
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And that's just a way for me to like still
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be involved, you know what I'm saying.
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And how did it transform from that to Okay, I
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want to start creating beats now or making music.
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Yeah.
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And I really fell into beat making just hanging out
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with my big cousin north Star, north Star. To God,
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I was like I was already. I would always go
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to his house. When I go over there, he was
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always like messing with this program, his music program, and
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I'm watching him make beats and I'm like, bro, I
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want to I want to try this, you know what
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I'm saying. And he was like, I'll go ahead, so
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you know, next few days, I'm I'm literally as a
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computer for hours, like trying to make a beat. And
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I finally made one beat, and when I did it,
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like I fell in love with it.
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I didn't care.
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Nobody thought I fell in love to beat really shit,
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So but I took the beat he was living in Pasadena.
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I drove back to the I drove back to Carson
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with and put up on the homies. It was it
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was Magic Agent, J king Rich and Soul like that
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was our crew.
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That was our crew. We always hung out.
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And so I took it back to the block and
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I put up on them. I was like, bro, I
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got this beat I made. They lay laughing like what
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are you talking about?
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You know what I'm saying.
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But then when I put it on and played it,
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as soon as it came on, they were shocked, like yo,
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this hard. But what caught me was they started freestyl
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into it.
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Wow.
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So now so now I'm having experience of like I'm
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at a beat and now they're actually rapping to something
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I made, and I caught the bug just like that.
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Their reaction to it was like, Okay, this is it.
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This is so Prior to that, did you have any
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like love or notice for music?
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Because no, thousand percent.
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I always knew I wanted to be involved in music
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some way like I would. I mean yeah, I was
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always just like confidence, like man, I can I mean
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like I can I can put my input on music
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in some way?
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Like I knew I wanted to do that for sure.
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No, that's that's fine. And then see, I thought the
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story was gonna go a whole completely different way. I
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thought you was gonna say, you you made this beat,
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you drove all the way from passing and ship and
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then when you just presented to the homies, they gonna
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sho on your music.
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Liked it, actually actually liked in that. Yeah, and again
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and they and they bigged me up. And when I
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caught that bug like, it was like, yeah, that that
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was that was the most fire I ever had in
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me for anything I ever did you know what I'm saying, Like,
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at that age, so what.
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Were you working on? You said it was a program.
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It is a program called Reason Reason, Yeah, the Reason
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And at that time, you can buy like a crack
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not buy, but you can get a crack version of it.
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You know what I'm saying, Like, you know it's it's
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you know, we passed a you know what's it.
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Called sexual limertation.
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We pasted that, you know what I'm saying, So you don't.
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Figure got money now, no more cracking And that's funny.
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That was reason for I'm on Reason thirteen. Though I
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literally stayed with that program for yeah, for almost for
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over fifteen years, have you.
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So, have you tried different forms, like have you tried
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different programs? Yeah, programs or or like from analog to
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to hardware or have you tried like different styles and
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you know, like.
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No, yeah for sure, I mean no, yeah, well as
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far as like hardware, you know, I definitely like you know,
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did like different keyboards, paths and things like that. But
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what's most important is is you sticking with one program?
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Because when you do that, like, it's so much to
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learn when you mess with a program. So now I've
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stayed with my same program so much. I know how
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to like manipulate sounds. I know exactly what I need
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to do for the sound I want to make.
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I guess I was asking if you have you tried,
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like you know, because a lot of people use fruity
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loose yeah, like if you try to use like oh no,
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that's just not no.
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I tried it, but I mean it was it's damn
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there like morse code to me, you know. Yeah, So
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so let me do the read the boom. So I
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was like, let me just yeah, let me not switch
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so fast because I still have like work to do
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and like shopping on my skills in this program.
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That's just me. I like to focus on one thing,
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and you know what I'm saying, So.
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One thing that I didn't include when I'm talking about
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you man, it's you know, the biggest bucko with Pack Music. Man,
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talk about Pack Music group and you being the head
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show of the label, and talk about what Packed Music is,
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the how you running that and how you can kind
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of wear so many hats as producer, DJ, you know, label,
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label owner and you know now artists you know.
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Yeah, definitely, Well, Pack Music like started just as a
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concept just with the homies. Then it turned into like
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a production just group, and then I turned it into
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a full like a full blown label like it was.
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It was literally like those three steps, like and these
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are the steps of me just taking my career and
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taking everything I'm doing and it's turning it.
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Into like a professionalism.
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Like I said, it's the concept, so you know, it's
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you know, it's you know, it's just we're just having
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fun with it, almost like a hobby.
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Then it turned into a group. It's just like hanging
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out and doing this because we love it.
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But I was like, no, I'm I'm I'm trying to
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go to the next level with this, Okay, So I
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need to ll see this Okay, So I need to
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you know what I'm saying, like turn this into a
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company and and see what.
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I can do with it.
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But I already had in my in my in my
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head like what I wanted to do. Yeah, yeah, I
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was like, as a producer, I want to be able
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to like have my own you know, label, so you know,
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things I want to do, I can always like like
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just filter it through my label. Even to this day,
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like I'm dropping my album through my own company.
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You know what I'm saying, is it is it tough
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to kind of like transition from wearing one hat to
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the next. Like, you know, you're gonna be going on tour, right,
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please talk about the tour too. You're gonna be going
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on tour as well. He's jumping on tour with what's
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going on? Let let them know the situation.
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Oh yeah, for sure. Sure.
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I mean I'm on my third tour this year, going
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on the Joy Badass Toward the Dark Ora tour. We
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started October fifteen until the end of November, so we're
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about to be on a road for a long time.
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It's about to be a gruelly one, but I love it.
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I enjoy it. These are my These of my favorite people,
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like you know Rahapsy.
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I love her.
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She's like one of my favorite like rappers. You know,
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we don't make songs together already, we already have a report.
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This is my first time, you know, I'm getting to
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know Joey like that. Even though you know we did
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the freestyle of the we did the red Bull freestyle
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that was my intro to him, you know what I'm saying,
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But now going on tour with him, So I'm I'm
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excited about this because this is right up my alley.
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I'm a lyric driven just like music lovers, so me
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going on with three is three like three of the
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best like lyricist. This is It's funny this this tour
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about to be head popped. It's about to be it's
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about to be all hoodies, backpacks, you know, it's about
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to be here.
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What's dope about this? I like the way you lined
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out your album, lined up your album to kind of
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have out there as well. Is that something that you
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learned from the previous experiences, Like Okay, I got to
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kind of have some type of product because now I
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got all eyes on me when they when they come
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to my page or when they you know, find out
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who I am. You know, all they see are production
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for other people, which is cool, but it's no standalone
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thing for podon P. So did that plan to you
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want to kind of get this project aligned with the
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tour as well?
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And this is all trial and error. I I regret it,
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like this is me not being prepared. But like I said,
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everything in line double timing. So no, I mean, of course,
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in my perfect world, I know, I mean it works
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out because I'm able to drop the album and go
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on the road and end a promoter on the road,
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you know, while I'm DJing, I'm able to you know,
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play some of the songs I can. I can have
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my merch y, I can do all that. But but
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in my perfect world, no I would. I mean I
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tried to, like line so much, so much up and
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dropping in July or August something like that. But when
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you work with so many different artists, you know what
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I'm saying, like, it's hard to get versus back and
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get time and get artists in the student at the
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same time. So with this being my first project, it
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is like a lot of trial and era. How to
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go through so to a point where it got me
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all the way into the deadline, like on my tour.
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So I was gonna say, how how is that for you?
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Like managing so many personalities and different artists that you
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deal with, relationships that you stacked up over the years.
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I'm sure maybe calling in some favors or tapping in
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with some folks, Like what was one of the biggest
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lessons that you learned putting this project together? Is finally
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getting it out there?
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That's that's a great question.
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Well, first, I'll first, I love it because like I'm
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a I'm a people person, Like so I get the
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most joy out of like getting so many people together,
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and like you make you you form the best relationships
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in the studio, you know what I'm saying. And that's
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and that's how some of the best music music is made,
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because you know, the chemistry is there. I'll I'll get
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arts in the studio and we'll just chop it up
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for an hour or two before me to make music.
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You know what I'm saying.
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Because now that are we familiar with each other, you know,
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and we're like we're very fond of each other. So
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now we're making the best music because the chemistry is there. Ever,
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get bounce off ideas things like that everyone's comfortable. What
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I did learn though, is and I and I never
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take any of it personal. Like if I reach out
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to certain artists that I've done music with, are that
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you know who will say that, you know, the fans
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of me are like I love your work. I'll reach
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out for a verse and I don't want to say
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no names, but I'll reach out for a verse and like,
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you know, I get it done and then drag their feet,
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you know what I'm saying things like that, Like, are
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some artists that like I that I'm like, I'm taking
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a shot. I'm gonna just take a shot, see if
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we're gonna do something, And they'll be like, no, sidle
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what you got? But then you know, they'll kind of
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leave me on stuck. But like I said, I don't
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take it personal because I just always look within. So
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I'm just okay, Like I'm just not at that point
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00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:15.799
yet to where I don't have a relationship with this
487
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artist to where like, you know, I can get something
488
00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:20.880
done with them, because everybody on my project that I have,
489
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I have a I have a good report.
490
00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:25.359
Well yeah, you have. I have a genuine relationship with them.
491
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So that's why I was able to get versus back
492
00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:29.519
so fast and like, bro, I got you of course,
493
00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:30.759
you know what I'm saying, I'll get it back in
494
00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.440
two days, versus some artists they'll take so long.
495
00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:34.680
I'll just be like, man, I'm not gonna ask some
496
00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:35.839
more what I mean, I guess it.
497
00:20:35.960 --> 00:20:37.759
Like you said, it's a learning curve. But at the
498
00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:40.920
same time, it's like your life be life with everybody,
499
00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:45.279
and it's it's it's something that man, it's it's kind
500
00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:48.279
of tough because it's one of those humbling experiences. But
501
00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:51.160
the same time, it's like this is a business man.
502
00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:54.039
No no, and you and I tell people like because
503
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you know, we all go through this, and as far
504
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as like trying to reach out to people, are feeling
505
00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:00.960
like you're getting shun like you just can't take a
506
00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:04.799
person because you gotta admit, like there's people who reach
507
00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:06.400
out to you and you kind of like brush off
508
00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:09.119
only because you feel like, what's the benefit that I
509
00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:11.039
have into working with y aall doing this with you.
510
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So that's why I'm like, even if the person I'm
511
00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:16.319
reaching out is like, it's not benefiting me right now. No,
512
00:21:16.359 --> 00:21:18.160
I understand you know what I'm saying. No, like you know,
513
00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:21.400
we can circle back around at that time. It you know,
514
00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:23.759
it works out better for both of us. I'm all
515
00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:25.839
for it, but I don't like the well fuck, you
516
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know what I'm saying, Well we you know, forget you
517
00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:28.440
then you know I don't do that.
518
00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:28.920
I don't do that.
519
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But let me let me. Let me bring off some
520
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names that are on the project man of course A
521
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Sol Moray shouts at the Homy dre Bow, Tris Shamton, sixteen,
522
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tf Ice, Cold Bishop, Daylight, Itchy Bond shouts out to
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Willie B Mick Jenkins, A d Airplane, James Epic must die,
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grab Bart Oatmeal, bas Coyotes loops to them two elevens.
525
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Yet they and also the Army Sir stacked the lineup.
526
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Bro.
527
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Relationship like curated over the years.
528
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Everybody who is on there's someone and it's and it's
529
00:22:01.039 --> 00:22:04.880
also it's also new relationships too, like Moray, like I
530
00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:08.079
just I I became friends with him this year just
531
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through through music. I did a song with him through
532
00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:13.519
my manager Dough Wow. He set me up with him
533
00:22:13.559 --> 00:22:16.160
and then from then we did a double song from then,
534
00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:17.640
you know, I started chopping up with him.
535
00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:18.559
I brought him over to the.
536
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Studio with me, and so we did more music with him,
537
00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:23.359
and once again in the studio we just with the
538
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bond was created.
539
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You know, I'm so I think I just said a
540
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second a good said recipes. I thought you're talking about
541
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berg're talking about dot network.
542
00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:31.720
Yeah yeah, yeah, but but of course long live a
543
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little bit Burger sure, but but yeah, so like Murray,
544
00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:39.680
he's my guy. Yeah, you know, we formed a bond
545
00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:42.720
like ourselves. We chopped up all the time. That's why
546
00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:44.839
it's like everybody in that project, I have a genuine,
547
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like you know, respecting relationship with for sure.
548
00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:50.359
And you said so for you when when you're creating,
549
00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:53.599
I know you said you'd like to be in the
550
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studio and kind of like had that bond with people
551
00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:58.720
and chop it up and create that production wise, do
552
00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:01.640
you rather be alone and kind of cook that, like
553
00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:03.839
get a foundation up for yourself or do you like
554
00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:05.839
them to be in the studio why you're doing.
555
00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:08.480
No, I like, I like cooking a loan only Yeah,
556
00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:12.440
I'm like that only because like not not not that
557
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I'm paranoid, but like I don't know. I have this
558
00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:17.119
thing like when I'm by myself, I can just be
559
00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:21.079
just max creative and I'm such oh I can't say
560
00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:24.279
people please it, but I'm such aware of like energy
561
00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:25.559
and other people around me.
562
00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:28.079
So if I shrugging your shoulder when you're doing something like.
563
00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:29.839
No, no, it's not even that I could be. I
564
00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:32.160
could be at the table like making the beat and everything.
565
00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:33.720
They could be sitting behind me on the couch. But
566
00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:36.400
like you know, producers, we can like we can work
567
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on the same loop for an hour and so like,
568
00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:41.279
but I'm conscious, I'm like, man, they probably like annoyed
569
00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:43.640
or something like that, so which throws off my my
570
00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:46.200
concentration and that's just me and it's not their fault.
571
00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:48.279
It's just me feeling like you know what I'm saying,
572
00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:50.359
like okay, let me switch it up or now I'm
573
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on sure myself. But I'm by myself, I can literally
574
00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:54.359
just like you know what I'm saying.
575
00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:55.400
Yeah, it's good.
576
00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:57.559
It's good to know what works for you though, man,
577
00:23:57.599 --> 00:23:59.519
because if you can set that back, not even a
578
00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:02.319
set of at the boundary, but just allow people to
579
00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:04.720
know that that's your process, they in turn won't take
580
00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:06.079
it a certain way. Even it's like, look, if you
581
00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:08.240
want the best for me, just letting me cook, you know,
582
00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:10.839
presenting with ideas of what you already know for sure.
583
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:13.400
And I've and I've been in both works both ways
584
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work because I've been in sessional artists and I'll make
585
00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:20.640
the beat on the spot. But but what I'm learning
586
00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:23.799
is just and me making beasts for myself. It's just
587
00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:27.160
that's my comfort level. So I'm kind of learning to
588
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:29.519
kind of step out of that, yeah, and be uncomfortable
589
00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:32.519
and being you know, students of other producers or things
590
00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:34.160
like that, and just kind of cook with them, like
591
00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:37.559
I rarely collaborate with other producers, like and we've cooked
592
00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:38.359
up at the same time.
593
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Like and so I'm I need I'm learning how to.
594
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Step out of that space and like I said, just
595
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being uncomfortable and just vibing with like other producers and
596
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:50.359
collabing like Fancis, I'm I want to get one in
597
00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:50.880
with day one.
598
00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:52.839
He just hit me up, like, bro, come on, let's work.
599
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.400
I just seen that you posted something. You posted something
600
00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:57.559
that jumped in the commons styles work, bro.
601
00:24:58.359 --> 00:24:59.920
He been trying to work with me, saying with Maar,
602
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:02.440
saying with all that it's I'm saying, it's really me
603
00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:05.960
always like like I'm just not me, not being sure.
604
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:07.200
It's like I don't because I don't know how it's
605
00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:09.759
going to go because it's it's unfamiliar territory for me. So,
606
00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:11.519
like I said, I got to just put myself out there.
607
00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:12.000
But you're the.
608
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.720
Biggest buckle man, the biggest buckle talk about that moniker,
609
00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.279
talk about that name. Where did that stem from? And
610
00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:21.119
I like it because it's it's kind of similar to
611
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:24.319
when t I called himself the King of the South.
612
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:28.839
What I'm saying, themselves the greatest. You pick up this,
613
00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:32.000
you pick up this, this, this, this alter ego, the
614
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.680
Black Mamba, Kobe Bryant, like all these people like that.
615
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.720
I like, I'm just telling you this is what, this
616
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:40.640
is what I see. I feel like that ever since
617
00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:44.240
you kind of took on that persona things have changed
618
00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:46.599
in a in a in a maximum level. You know
619
00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:48.440
what I'm saying. But but where did that stem from?
620
00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:50.319
And how did you hold on to that? And where
621
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:50.960
do you see yourself?
622
00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:57.000
It's funny, it's stem from COVID, from COVID like just
623
00:25:57.119 --> 00:26:01.599
clubhouse and so around then, like and I and I
624
00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:06.119
met bro Too shout out Davis. I met bro Too
625
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:08.839
and everything at a at a comedy club. But it
626
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:10.960
was around that time. It was like twenty nineteen, like
627
00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:13.200
he was like he had these skits where he was
628
00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:15.119
like come on buck oh, like he was always doing
629
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:17.720
that and everything, and so it was just me playing around,
630
00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:19.880
like I just started. I loved it so much. I
631
00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.000
just started doing it and just picking up on it.
632
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:24.599
But I remember on clubhouse E remember the club I
633
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:27.039
was day. That's when it when COVID shut down. Everybody
634
00:26:27.079 --> 00:26:29.559
their mama, every a R was on there, you know, yeah,
635
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:31.319
so we yeah, it was pretty much a party line.
636
00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:37.000
But from then that's where I like just like brought
637
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:38.799
like brought the buco to Club Bolls. And I was
638
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:40.640
always just saying it, just saying it is making jokes
639
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:42.599
and to a point where it just stuck with people.
640
00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:45.119
Next you know, they referred to me as like come on, buck,
641
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:46.799
let me guess what what what's up?
642
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:47.599
What's up? Bukoh.
643
00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:50.839
Yeah, and it was it really just became just something
644
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.720
I just like couldn't like stop, and to a point
645
00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:55.920
where like from twenty twenty twenty twenty five, like it's
646
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:57.720
still going but it did take on a life of
647
00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:00.480
his own to where I'm on tour and people like, what's.
648
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.920
Up Buco, hey big Buck. I'm like, I'm I'm amazed.
649
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.920
I'm like, hey, no, this is crazy. You know it's crazy.
650
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:08.519
I could be on stage and people are screaming at
651
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:10.640
I'm like, okay, so this is different, but it is.
652
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.799
I remember me, and you don't have conversations where you
653
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:16.240
like trademarket and this and that, and I'm like, I
654
00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:18.079
wouldn't even I'm still trying to figure out how you
655
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:19.880
even do, like to do merch with that.
656
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:21.799
Bro I saw when I saw Lebron posted, I.
657
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:26.359
Said that was different. When Lebron was like, what are
658
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:26.880
we doing?
659
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:32.799
I'm like, oh, but even even with that, like like
660
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.519
I said, even when it comes to merch, because like
661
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:40.079
for instance, with keem Are, or even with you, when
662
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:42.920
it comes to like you know, the dad things you
663
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:45.680
get that that you guys got going like like see,
664
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:47.279
like so yours can be a stand alone. So I'm
665
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:49.200
trying to figure out even how to like merch like
666
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:51.960
Bucco and I come on a Bucko shirt, but like
667
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:55.079
I still want something that like stands on his own,
668
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.319
that means something you know what I'm saying, Yeah, but
669
00:27:57.319 --> 00:27:59.359
but no, but it has, but it has taken on
670
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:00.839
it like a life it is on as far as
671
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:02.599
like that, that's really my alter ego.
672
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.160
I'm telling you, man, Simplicity is the best that the
673
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:10.079
best thing, bro. Just man, just just do it. And
674
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.839
like just like everything else in your career, it's like
675
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:15.599
you find your way to it and and things just
676
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:16.160
kind of like.
677
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:18.119
Just fall into it, fall into it, and things that
678
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:20.359
will work will work its way out.
679
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:24.640
But nah, I love the fact that that has taken
680
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:27.200
on a life of its own. It's something that's probably
681
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:28.480
you didn't even see it was gonna go.
682
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:30.920
To to a point where there's a there's a Buckle
683
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:34.640
Junior song. You know what I'm saying, Like no, yeah, no,
684
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:38.799
and so like even my yeah no, it's no, It's
685
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.400
it's crazy to me, man, And I'm just like I'm
686
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:43.960
never gonna start like this is here to stay.
687
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:46.759
So so on on a personal tip, bro, like how
688
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:49.279
do you deal with like cause, I mean you you've
689
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.480
seen a lot of things happen throughout the course of years,
690
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:55.160
you know, losing folks, you know, being being down with
691
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.240
day ones and and and situations happen. How do you
692
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:03.440
balance mentality wise when things are going on with with
693
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.519
with with homies and personal ship, Like how do you
694
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:07.720
how do you manage being there for them, but at
695
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.839
the same time keeping your middle you know, your sanity
696
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.519
there as well. No, you got wife as well, you
697
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:15.440
got things that's happening in your life that you've got
698
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:17.519
to attend to. How do you balance both of those
699
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:20.240
life of the entertainment business, personal ship and your own
700
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:20.920
mental sanity.
701
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.720
I mean, as you know, it's it's a you know,
702
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.000
it's an every day It's it's an every day like
703
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:29.480
fight that you have. Are Like, how I do it
704
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.000
is like I like just to simplify my life. So
705
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:35.559
I've always been like that, So you know, even with
706
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.200
you know, me and my wife and is that is
707
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:40.759
music and it is my you know, my circle of friends.
708
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:43.519
But I mean, how I do it every day is
709
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:46.200
like I just focus on just stamp, just being present.
710
00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:47.960
It's really just about that.
711
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.039
Like the minute i'm you know, I'm I'm I'm fixated
712
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:54.039
or I'm caught up in other people's like you know,
713
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:56.960
woes or problems are life. That's how I lose track
714
00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.079
of what I got going on so every day I'm
715
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:02.920
always focusing on just being present and and just and
716
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:04.480
just focusing on what I have to do. You know
717
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:06.640
what I'm saying, Like this in my life, being president
718
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:09.880
is so important. Like I'm learning that even you know,
719
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:11.920
at this age right now could be for It's a
720
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:13.960
lot of times where I wasn't like that, but now
721
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.680
I'm I'm really honing in on that, like so much
722
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.680
of just being present, even with social media and things
723
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:22.319
like that, Like I still struggle with it, but even
724
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.440
waking up in the morning, like I'm trying not to
725
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:27.160
like be on my phone because you can. You can
726
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:29.759
wake up and go on social media. You can scroll
727
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:31.640
on social media. You go through five different emotions before
728
00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:33.160
you get out the bed. You know what I'm saying.
729
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:35.519
You're scrolling, so you're seeing some more missing out on
730
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:37.440
this all. I'm jealous of this. I'm sad at this.
731
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:39.960
You haven't got the bed yet, so your morning's already.
732
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:42.119
You know how I know you you kind of like
733
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.640
really tapped into zen and inner peace. And I've seen
734
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.759
you with the cat. Bro I seen you with the cat.
735
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.960
I said, no, no, no, no, this didn't look this
736
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:52.720
is all this, This is all my wife doing. Man,
737
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.039
So yeah, no, this is it's not my cats.
738
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:58.119
Cat was petting the cat.
739
00:30:58.279 --> 00:30:59.079
I got two cats.
740
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:01.000
I got two cats.
741
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:04.319
Yeah, no, no, And it's funny. I've never been a
742
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:06.039
cat person ever in my life. I never had cat.
743
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:09.200
I never had cats growing upthing like that. But it's
744
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.119
so much easier, han't cast They're like roommates, bro, Look
745
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:12.440
at Yeah, I ain't gotta tell you. I ain't got
746
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.279
to know because I did. I did the dog the
747
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:19.599
salesman for the cat. Look, I'm telling y'all, like, but
748
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:22.039
you know, it's funny. Cats have a black Cats have
749
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:23.960
a bad rap among black in the black community.
750
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:28.000
For real. My mama hate, mama hate cats.
751
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:29.720
Somebody, I got my son on the now, if we
752
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:31.640
see a cat in the back, get.
753
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:32.920
Out of why is that that?
754
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:33.319
Man?
755
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:34.519
Like, no, what what happened?
756
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:34.759
Man?
757
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.079
Look what happened with black people and cats? Cats just
758
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.480
be there for me personally and this this war. Maybe
759
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.720
you can help me out because that's where I know
760
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:44.160
you got that inner piece of that zen. When I
761
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:46.759
see cats, I'm just annoyed. They were always in my backyard,
762
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:49.839
always just doing But I mean, but but they wasn't
763
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:51.519
First of all, they weren't doing crazy. They was doing
764
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:56.240
crazy stuff. There was there was screaming, There was crazy
765
00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:03.160
screaming and hit in the back exactly. Nah. But the
766
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.319
fact that you've got to that point, and my point
767
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.359
in that is that you've learned how to kind of
768
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:13.200
compromise with your situation and with your wife and I
769
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.160
and I think that's dope, right. I'm sure you have
770
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:17.759
your ways and things that you want to do, but
771
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:19.880
you learned how to how to compromise in oh, and
772
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.640
I think it's it's applied in life as well. You
773
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:24.400
know what I'm saying. When you learn to master stuff
774
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:26.640
like that, it shows up in different areas of your life.
775
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:28.400
So the fact that you're able to do that, things
776
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.000
that you weren't comfortable with years ago, whatever the case
777
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.599
may be, you've learned to now do it the same thing.
778
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.279
I think that that always. That also applies with the music,
779
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:38.200
things that you may not have been comfortable with years
780
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.720
ago sound wise sonically. Now you can kind of take
781
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:43.039
it to the next level and explore different things.
782
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.240
And you know what, and that and that gives me
783
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.200
like wisdom and strength for any other things in the
784
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:50.960
future that I made another obstacle, I may come across
785
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.799
because now I come across a new obstacle, and so
786
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:55.000
I'm like, man, I'm gonna get through this.
787
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:55.400
Okay.
788
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:57.720
Let me just like I said once again, you you
789
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.839
look within and e be present and you just really Okay,
790
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:02.559
you've been to this before, like you know what I'm saying,
791
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:04.799
Like you overcame this, You ever came that?
792
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.160
So okay, how did you do that? Okay? You locked
793
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:07.720
in do this?
794
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.720
So no, you know, everybody comes from experience, just like
795
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:12.960
overcoming certain things that I never think I'll do.
796
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.319
Now it's another obstacle. Okay, I can get do this.
797
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:17.519
So let me talk about one obstacle that you may
798
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:19.279
or may not have had to deal with it and
799
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.359
without there's no names anything like that, but when it
800
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.119
comes to you know, people on your production, it's a
801
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.720
sacred thing. I'm assuming, right. Has there ever been a
802
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:32.480
moment where you give somebody a beatpack or somebody's on
803
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:35.319
a song and they just don't deliver the way you
804
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.640
want them to do? What is that conversation to let
805
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.880
them know like oh you yeah, you can't, We're gonna
806
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.039
take You're gon We're gonna take you.
807
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.200
Okay. Are you saying like you can't have to beat
808
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:45.599
are we taking you off the song? Which one?
809
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:48.640
Listen, let's do take him off the song? But then yeah,
810
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:50.400
let's do that one because the beat that that can
811
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.920
be subjective because for a range of reagions, it might
812
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:53.480
go to somebody else.
813
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:55.759
Yeah, I mean a lot of that one beat. It's
814
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:56.240
just business.
815
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:59.960
Like you know, if somebody's on on on a song
816
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.920
with yours, right and they just not delivered, Like, what's
817
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.960
that conversation you have with them?
818
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:12.760
Hey, don't networks that that's really that's really happened. Like
819
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:15.800
I can't say that, but no, that really happened on
820
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:20.239
the song that that that recorded a bunch of people
821
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.039
on it, but it was one person that was kind
822
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.920
of like that was that was kind of like the
823
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:26.840
Weekly It was slacking it. And first of all, it
824
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:28.880
was too many people on the song, and so I
825
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:30.000
was like, somebody got to come off.
826
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.000
And I was like, I know exactly when you come off.
827
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:36.000
Like man, I'm like, no, man, you gotta let them know, man,
828
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:37.559
because you know what I'm saying, don't know him to
829
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:40.760
you know, y'all break it to him. Because and this
830
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:43.599
is why having management is so important, because my job
831
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.239
is to keep the relationships. I always tell people that, like, bro,
832
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:48.920
like get you a manager, are an assistant.
833
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.400
So if so, you don't have to be the bad guy.
834
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:52.360
Let them be the bad guy.
835
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:54.280
But you've had to deal with that and be in
836
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:55.880
that role as well as you know.
837
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.800
Oh yeah, for sure. It's the thing.
838
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:01.960
I didn't mind being a bad guy for the artist
839
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:04.719
that I always representing. Yeah, yeah, if they don't want
840
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:06.880
to do it, Look, they don't want to do it, this, this,
841
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:08.119
how much is going to be? You know, I didn't
842
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:11.400
I didn't mind stepping into that role of like, yeah,
843
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.079
of having to be the bad guy because, like I said,
844
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.000
because I'm all about holding integrity, you know what I'm saying,
845
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:19.840
So like you know this, this is what this person wants,
846
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:21.559
Like we're not going to be in the break or anything.
847
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.119
And if you don't want to do it, then you
848
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.719
know that's fine, you know what I'm saying. But yeah,
849
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:29.320
because I'm all about holding integrity, I'm really about that.
850
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.519
I'm not I'm not gonna like like I said, the
851
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:33.599
PE's or anything like that. So it was it was
852
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:35.760
easy for me to do that, but I understand when
853
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:37.960
it comes to me now and having to do it. Yeah,
854
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:39.840
I don't want to tell people no if I if
855
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:41.400
it's something that me and you have to deal with,
856
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.360
I'd rather like how my manager do and then y'all
857
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:43.960
can figure it out.
858
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:45.800
It's smart, I mean, that's the business side of it.
859
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:49.679
So of course, moving forward, all right, the project born
860
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.119
is going to be dropping, all right. I want to
861
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:54.480
kind of leave this as if the projects out I
862
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:55.880
know is going to be coming out at the end
863
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:56.519
of August.
864
00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.960
I meanry audience, otok, But there.
865
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:03.559
I like putting dates on things at the same time,
866
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:05.480
you know, whenever you see this, you know, at some
867
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.719
point down the line after October thirteenth, going to support
868
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:11.119
it or whatever the case may be. But before we
869
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:13.800
get out of here, I want to talk about how
870
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:18.800
would you describe Python p's sound style? And the second
871
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:22.360
portion to that is how do you expand on that
872
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:26.559
and maybe pivot or how do you how do you
873
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:28.880
shape your sound for for future for the future down
874
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:29.559
the line as well?
875
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.400
For sure, how I explain my sound is how I
876
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.039
how I would explain who I am as a person.
877
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:42.519
You know me, I'm I'm heavy into zodiacs. I know
878
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.039
a lot of people not I'm heavy the zodiac. I mean,
879
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.280
I'm a Gemini. You know our you know our our
880
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.000
trades and characterations. You know, one of them is worth chameleons.
881
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:54.599
So we can kind of absorb and kind of fit
882
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:58.559
a lot of people's mode. So and music it translates
883
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:01.320
to that. So I can make so many different sounds.
884
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:04.480
And I do that because once again, like I like to,
885
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.239
I like to morph into like you know, and it's
886
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:08.800
a challenge for me, and I take on the challenge.
887
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:10.119
It excites me.
888
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:12.440
If if Sarah wants the type of beat, okay, I
889
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:15.360
can make that. If if if so need the type
890
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.840
of bead or you know, if cold one stance our daylight.
891
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:21.760
Once that, Like I pride myself and having just an
892
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:25.280
arrange of sounds because you know it'll be to me,
893
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:27.039
I'll be bored if I'm just making one type of.
894
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:31.000
Yeah you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So, but me, just.
895
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:35.639
The evolution of my sound will always me, will always
896
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:39.519
be me, just always like taking risks and just me
897
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:40.480
trusting myself.
898
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:42.880
So what does that look like when you say take
899
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:46.880
risks and challenging yourself as a producer. What are some
900
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:48.559
of the and the reason why I asked this is
901
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:51.840
because I noticed somebody that's watching you, listening to you
902
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:53.719
as a fan of you. You know, it looks up
903
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:55.840
to you that may not have access to you. So
904
00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:58.920
if you can give that producer, that that creative that
905
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:00.320
a certain I.
906
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.760
Got the perfect And I tell people, I tell my
907
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:06.320
homies this. I tell people who you know who ask
908
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:07.760
me for the if I tell them the same thing.
909
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:12.079
Stop stop asking people what they think about your art,
910
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.239
because when you do that, like when even Mahomie teld
911
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.039
me asks me, like what you about this be or
912
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:18.519
this song?
913
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:20.440
I'm like, bro, what do you think about it? Like
914
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:21.719
that's what matter? Do you think it's dope?
915
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.800
Okay, that's all that matters because you like you asking
916
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:26.400
so many people, hey, which talk about this? Which think
917
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:29.880
about this beat? Now there aret there are like may
918
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:31.800
not be your art, so are they may not even
919
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:33.320
be in the mood to hear what you want to hear.
920
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:36.280
So now you're getting feedback that that's not even warranted,
921
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:38.920
and now it's discouraging you. And I've been through that,
922
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:40.880
you know what I'm saying. Like and so me, I
923
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:43.639
never ask people like what they think about my music.
924
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:47.559
My job is to make sure the quality of my
925
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:50.000
music is there, So I don't take anything personal. If
926
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.159
I send beats out to certain artists and they're not
927
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:53.960
feeling it, Okay, you're not feeling it for sure, it's
928
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:56.119
just not for you. But I'm a damn sure make
929
00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:58.280
sure the quality of it is a one to where
930
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:01.199
you can't even like you can you can't judge art,
931
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:02.760
but you can judge quality.
932
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:05.239
You can let them know, ah, that's the terrible art.
933
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:06.760
This beat sounds like you know what I'm saying, like
934
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:08.559
and you know, and you you know you do it
935
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.039
all the time, even with your you know what what
936
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:12.400
you used to do when you see like you know here,
937
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.320
I don't know why it's fleeting with direct yourself. So
938
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:18.400
you know as far as like you know, some song
939
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:20.719
may not be for you, but you know quality, you
940
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:21.159
know what I'm saying.
941
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:22.480
I can judge you on that. I can help you
942
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:22.760
on that.
943
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.880
But would always tell people like, just trust your sound,
944
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:27.400
trust your vision, likes, don't ask people what they think
945
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:29.599
about your art, Like just what if you think it's dope,
946
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:30.639
go with it, man.
947
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:31.599
And that's all I do.
948
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:33.960
Like when I make music, if I think it's dope,
949
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:36.440
I'm going with it, even if it's something that's like
950
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.159
that's that hasn't like came out, it's a different sound.
951
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:40.760
If I think it's dope, I'm going with it. I'm
952
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:43.280
pushing it to people. Yeah, and if you trust me,
953
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.480
just just doing goddamn verse on this.
954
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:48.119
Now what I didn't ask you? Uh, and we'll close
955
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:49.800
out with this. Why the name born?
956
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:55.559
Okay, so buco it's actually an acronym B dot U
957
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:56.519
dot C dot K.
958
00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:57.360
I don't know that.
959
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:00.880
There you go, okay, and that's what I can't do.
960
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:04.119
So and so why would you even do?
961
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.199
But but but but I'm but I'm gonna tell you though.
962
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:11.840
So the first the first letter is born and born born,
963
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.719
I got the take one second, and you're never gonna
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get the c K Carson, I'm definitely comping. I'm definitely
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not born under said the content, you know, outside.
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Born under comp kicking it outside that's hey, that's some ghetto.
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Come on, man, I'm I'm I'm way more layered than that.
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I'm just saying I wouldn't know. So look so now, look, so,
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so the first one is born. That's why you know,
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you see my cover art is going to match that
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the whole thing. But So that's why this whole buckle
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all my albums, it's going to be a series that's
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gonna spell out.
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It's gonna be.
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Born and then you know born. I'll give you that
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one born under I'll give you that one. The second
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was born down there, and then the born whom they're
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born all the way into the He's not going to
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can I can I I guess this this well, this
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is not well unfortunate. Let me just guess it just
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is to see a place or a city. It's not
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a location. It is a okay, state is a state
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of mind? Is definitely okay, I'll take that. Now, give
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you some central central centered. No it's not center, it's
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something like that's that's relative to that.
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No, No, it is, it's the opposite the center.
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Yeah, confused, confusion, Yeah.
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But it's not it. Okay, that's yeah.
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We are going under chaotic ohip almost almost chaos, almost
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almost confusion. Look, I'm getting there about to confuse you,
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I said, confused learning Damn, everybody's everybody.
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We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna talk.
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Okay, I don't talk afterwards, but but for the people
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at the five at bath though and look and and
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by the time I get to the old you might
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you might get a sixteen from I might might, I
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might guess something. But but but but but I'm dropping
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my first single next Tuesday and on the thirtieth. It's
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it's called that. That's what the song is called, my
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first single, especially to me. That's why I did it
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with my brothers. Uh, you know, so tf ice cool Bishop,
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these are like these are these are my guys? So
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Christ boom Christ Christ. I am Catholic, but you know
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well baptized Cathy. I don't know if I'm not anymore?
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Wow, are you denouncing not playing stop man the biggest
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bucko pe man? It's an honor, end of course, y'all
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could Uh? I do want to give the folks the
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heads up that check the record with me and Christians
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don't remember us, right, I'm saying, he said, we we
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we co working.
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Well, this is why we can kick the shape.
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But this is it's a it's a full circle moment, man,
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And I'm proud of what you've been able to do.
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And I'm glad you you're stepping outside and showing people
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more of yourself. And you know, can't wait to actually
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see the full series kind of play out and see what.
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Folks can be you man, Yeah, no, I know, and
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I appreciate you because you've seen you was You've been
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there from the beginning like seeing my you know, trajectory
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and just you know, seeing me figure it out and
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going through different like phases to hear so like once again,
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that's special to me to sit in front of you
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and be able to you know, be able to talk
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about it, man, like, Yeah, just have my peoples.
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Like you here, Man, that that that means a lot
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to me.
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Man. It just shows like where I've come to, where
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I could be in a room and it just feels
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like I'm kicking it, you know what I'm saying. That's
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what it's about, man, Python The Biggest Buckle born the
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album in October thirteen.
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Have my release party on the twelve, and make sure you're.
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There, please, I'm there, Brokay might bring the kids. You
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know what I'm saying.
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It is a family fair. It is a family affair.
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It's a family affair. Come on, I'll be the cats.
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That's what it is. Cats going under cats. That's a
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good wrap up. Keeping it all wrong. People catch you
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out next time o
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All right, we're back at it, all right, Chuck Dizzle
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live in direct keeping it home grown. Salute to everybody
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that's been subscribing, not only to the YouTube where you
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can see the full video of this conversation, you can
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check out the full audio any you know podcast dsp
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any podcast outlet, and of course if you're checking out
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this conversation on Real ninety two three here in Los
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Angeles or any iHeart stations, I appreciate you. Okay, in
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the building with me right now. The biggest bucko alright,
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my man producer DJ artists now this new album all
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right born my man Python.
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P is here the biggest buckle here with Chuck.
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It's crazy to see you in artists mode. Man, talk
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about this transition to finally you know, you're used to
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being behind the sound of theduction and shaping the sound
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for a lot of artists out here. And let you
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talk your issue a minute. But how is it now
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to come like step in the forefront as an artist
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and drop your first project.
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No, it's a it's a long time coming then you right,
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Like I became a producer, yeah, because I wanted to
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stay behind the scenes and not be in the forefront.
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So you know, it's a lot of me being uncomfortable.
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I mean even me being like a tour DJ, like
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I had no idea I was going to do that.
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So I mean me being in front of thousands of
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people who are having to talk to people, and now
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me just putting myself out there as an artist, you know,
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coming up with an album. So let me know, this
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is this is a long time coming, Like I've been
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wanting to do a project for years, but you know,
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everything is timing.
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So so why why now? Because you've you've produced for
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the likes of so many people. Man, And what made
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it this year or was it something that you wanted
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to do prior that you were like, Okay, I got
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to actually step outside and show people and showcase my
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talent and my creativity and really be step out in
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the forefront.
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No, yeah, it's trust me, it's been alone time coming
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doing this, But like I said, everything is timing. I
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be wanting to do this maybe five six years ago,
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but you know I've always kind of like put it off.
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It was just never a good timing for me.
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And now.
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You know, I just went all for it because like
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you said, I built myself up as far as relationships
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with artists, my cachet of just my brand and who
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I am. So now it's the perfect time because now
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I can do the songs that I want and work
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with my favorite artists and people I want to work with,
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and you know, I'm fans of them. And then they
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also like, you know, fan, I want to say, a
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fan of me, but you know they're familiar in their friends.
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I think it's a combination of all of that.
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So I mean just me being able to call on,
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you know, you know, my favorite artist because now relationship
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is built and they can get songs done for me,
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you know what I'm saying, versus maybe five six years ago.
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I'll give them a call, I let you I'll let
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you know. You know what I'm saying.
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But so, what was the who was the last artist
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that you were? Like, Damn, I'm actually linking with them
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and they know who I am based off of my
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resume and what I do.
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Know I'd be surprised all the time.
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But just think about the last one that that that
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that comes to mind, Like, damn, because I know it's
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I know it's a few, a few, but I know
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it's it's multiple, you know, multiple people, but which which
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one for you was the last one was the last time?
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You're like, oh damn, okay, they know about me.
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No, for sure, I would say, well just recently there's
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so many, but just recently now it's Jewish from from Underachievers.
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Wow. Yeah, Underchievements like a legendary group.
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So my my homie reached out to him, was like, yo,
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you should work with Python then, and he told me so.
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So then I reached out to him. I was like, bro,
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you know what I'm saying. I love the work. He's like, bro,
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I know who you are, like you you fire, you.
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Don't have to do that.
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Yeah, I know what you And I'm so used to
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doing that, you know what I'm saying my whole career
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of having to pitch myself. But now like I can
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just like if I see someone. I remember when I
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when I met Jay Cole, he was like, no, yeah, yeah,
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I know who you are, bros.
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Yeah.
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And I'm sitting there like trying to, like I said,
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pitch myself and He's like, nah, bro, I know you are.
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You know, I know the work you know with you
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and soul and this and that. So I'm like, okay,
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let's get past that, then let's work. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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yeah yeah, Like like now I can be like forceful,
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Now what's up.
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It's get some working, you feel me. So just just.
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For for people that may be seeing you, you know,
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because again you behind the scenes, so a lot of
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people may not have seen you or may not see you,
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or when they do see you, they're like, oh damn,
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that's that's give them the roller decks. Give to give them,
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you know, run off the resume of people that you've
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produced for. So people got to know, you know, who
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the biggest buck go with.
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No, for sure, I've worked with Rhapsody, j Cole, Bennie
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the Butcher, I worked with Punch, I worked with Jay Rock,
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I don't worked with I don't their commercials for Levi's who.
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And I know I'm leaving so many I don't work
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with bost work with Sir. Like I said, I know
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I'm leaving saw me off the table. But that's how
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that's how much like like well, I'm learning how to
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be present to where like I recognize and I you know,
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I appreciate the things I've done, but it's so like
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fleeting to when I work with people I just keep
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but it really be a lot of producers that I'll
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be so like, I'll more so be appreciative, are happy
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that I've that I work with, Like knighte Wunder, I've
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been a studio. I've been a studio with him and
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like I'll play something or you know, I'll be with
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so he'll play so he'd be like, bro, who's this
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And he's like that's probably He's like, bro.
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You so hard. I'm sitting there like, hey, yo are alchemist.
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Alchemists will like alchemist will text like two eleven like, bro,
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that song you got here? That's my boyfriend will tell
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him he cold. So when they're telling me this, I'm like, okay,
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now now I'm like, you can't tell me.
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That's got to be a confidence booster right now now
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that you don't you know, you're not confident about your
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style and what you do, but it's always reassured when
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you got legends and people that you look up to
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that that that are confirming, like okay, you you know
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you got that. One of the ones that I saw recently, Man,
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you was in a studio with David Banner bro and
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it was so fun. So how was it a studio
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with you with Mick Jenkins shout out to him, and
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you had David Banner on on FaceTime and I don't
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think Mick was paying attention what was going on? What's
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up to?
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And Mick was like, oh ship David Bantner like know
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that messed him up?
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That wass No, No, that's that's that's so special to
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me because when we met him right before we went
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on his last tour, we met him at a studio
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in Pasadena and we just hit it off. But the
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ladship I have with him, it's I mean, it's it's
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crazy because he's like a brother to me. Now he's
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like a big brother, like you know, I can call
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on him and he actually, Man, it's just special to
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me because he actually calls me just to check on
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me how I'm doing. We done did like a couple
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of songs now together. But now he has a special
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place for my heart, like for sure, man Like like
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just for him to call me all the time and
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he lets me know about his day. He checks on
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me and my mentor it's not just about like what
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you're doing, what you got? Well you know what I'm saying,
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what beat you got? No, he just wanted to call
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and talk to me, so you know that. Yeah, so
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he's he's dope as hell. Man, Let's take it back.
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To the beginning because for the folks that may not know, Man,
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Python p you you I've heard you explain it before,
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but just for the context of the conversation, the name
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started off as an inside joke.
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You know, it's it's so it's it's so many stories,
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so you know, if you know, you know, but you know,
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I'm from a I'm from a click that we started
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and at cross a high call top notch, and so yeah,
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it was like a thing we had within each other
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where we was like always called each other a snake,
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like we was all like it was like a thing
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we had for maybe like like a like a summer.
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Were just called each other that. So it for some
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reason was like you a snake, you was saying, man,
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matter of fact, you a python.
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it was yeah, so it was the whole thing that,
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like you got the whole with the fight down.
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The slipping, it was all that. Yeah.
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calling me that and then I literally just like changed
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my Twitter handle from something else to that, and it
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just and it just became that.
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That's why. So was this prior to production? So this
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is just the homies. I love how names like that
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just kind of stick just based off of that, like yeah, yeah,
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folks shooting on each other left and right.
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It's not always like majestic, it's not always like it's
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just it came from God.
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I know. It literally was just like it was ragging on.
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That's it now, Now let's let's get into the you know,
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you said the Carson and obviously a lot of people
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link you to apps, so you being is tour DJ
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and that relationship first and foremost, But talk about the
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early days and production because you guys have this, uh,
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this relationship you know of brotherhood, right Todd Notch like
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from from from Jump and I think that that kind
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of works into you guys' relationship as far as on
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the music side as well. But when was that first
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time where you're like, oh damn, okay, I got something
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or how did you guys kind of form that relationship
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from homies to now doing you know, collaborating music wise.
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like I'm known to since tenth grade, you know, from
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Carson High and then even after high school, like he
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got kicked out of his mom's house and he had
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to come live with me, you know what I'm saying,
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and this like it's a roommate. We're gonna get there,
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because that's a whole nothing. But it was amount of
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time where like my parents were moving to Nashville, and
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whole house. And when I was living in Compton, they
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just they say, look be selling this house, but you
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can live here for a few years.
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now got out.
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It was crazy, yeah, yeah, And so this is the
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same time, and like I said, it's almost fake because
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this round the same time where Saul gets kicked out
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of his house.
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So he's like and so he's like Pete, like can
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I come.
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Stay with you? I'm like, I guess for sure. And
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so when my parents left, it was literally just me
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and him in the house.
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We was like, bro, we really got.
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so we just so, yeah, we just and that's when
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our bond it was like really formed, you know, just
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live with each other and like for so long and
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just going through so much was.
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at that point were starting to kind of get where
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you started production at.
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That No, no, no, And this was two thousand and seven,
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so around this time he was just just starting out,
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you know, you know, getting in with TDE you know
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what I'm saying, and you know, going to you know,
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Stevenson and recording over there. But even before then, I
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was like like I was always with him going to
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like studios and like before he was with TD's with
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Street Beat, and I was going with him to interview
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to record, So I was always around him when it
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comes to like you know, recording and music. And the
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way I got into it is I just started recording
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music myself, like with the homies, like like the homie
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will have a house and Carson and I'll be the
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one like I'll record, y'all, I'll record it. So my
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my intro and the music that started there.
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So it was more or less going you know, being
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being homies following around and then said, oh, you know,
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I can create value and I'll do it. I don't
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want to wrap, I'll do it.
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All the homies wanted to rap, so I'm like, yeah,
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so I'll be the one to record y'all.
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And that's just a way for me to like still
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be involved, you know what I'm saying.
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And how did it transform from that to Okay, I
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want to start creating beats now or making music.
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And I really fell into beat making just hanging out
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with my big cousin north Star, north Star. To God,
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I was like I was already. I would always go
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to his house. When I go over there, he was
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always like messing with this program, his music program, and
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I'm watching him make beats and I'm like, bro, I
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want to I want to try this, you know what
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I'm saying. And he was like, I'll go ahead, so
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you know, next few days, I'm I'm literally as a
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computer for hours, like trying to make a beat. And
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I finally made one beat, and when I did it,
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like I fell in love with it.
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I didn't care.
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Nobody thought I fell in love to beat really shit,
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I drove back to the I drove back to Carson
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with and put up on the homies. It was it
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was Magic Agent, J king Rich and Soul like that
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was our crew.
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That was our crew. We always hung out.
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And so I took it back to the block and
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I put up on them. I was like, bro, I
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got this beat I made. They lay laughing like what
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are you talking about?
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You know what I'm saying.
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But then when I put it on and played it,
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as soon as it came on, they were shocked, like yo,
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this hard. But what caught me was they started freestyl
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into it.
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So now so now I'm having experience of like I'm
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at a beat and now they're actually rapping to something
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I made, and I caught the bug just like that.
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Their reaction to it was like, Okay, this is it.
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This is so Prior to that, did you have any
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like love or notice for music?
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Because no, thousand percent.
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I always knew I wanted to be involved in music
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some way like I would. I mean yeah, I was
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always just like confidence, like man, I can I mean
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like I can I can put my input on music
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in some way?
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Like I knew I wanted to do that for sure.
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No, that's that's fine. And then see, I thought the
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story was gonna go a whole completely different way. I
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thought you was gonna say, you you made this beat,
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you drove all the way from passing and ship and
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then when you just presented to the homies, they gonna
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sho on your music.
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Liked it, actually actually liked in that. Yeah, and again
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and they and they bigged me up. And when I
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caught that bug like, it was like, yeah, that that
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was that was the most fire I ever had in
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me for anything I ever did you know what I'm saying, Like,
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at that age, so what.
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Were you working on? You said it was a program.
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It is a program called Reason Reason, Yeah, the Reason
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And at that time, you can buy like a crack
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not buy, but you can get a crack version of it.
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You know what I'm saying, Like, you know it's it's
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you know, we passed a you know what's it.
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Called sexual limertation.
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We pasted that, you know what I'm saying, So you don't.
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Figure got money now, no more cracking And that's funny.
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That was reason for I'm on Reason thirteen. Though I
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literally stayed with that program for yeah, for almost for
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over fifteen years, have you.
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So, have you tried different forms, like have you tried
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different programs? Yeah, programs or or like from analog to
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to hardware or have you tried like different styles and
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you know, like.
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far as like hardware, you know, I definitely like you know,
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did like different keyboards, paths and things like that. But
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what's most important is is you sticking with one program?
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Because when you do that, like, it's so much to
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learn when you mess with a program. So now I've
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stayed with my same program so much. I know how
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to like manipulate sounds. I know exactly what I need
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to do for the sound I want to make.
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I guess I was asking if you have you tried,
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like you know, because a lot of people use fruity
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loose yeah, like if you try to use like oh no,
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that's just not no.
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I tried it, but I mean it was it's damn
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there like morse code to me, you know. Yeah, So
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so let me do the read the boom. So I
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was like, let me just yeah, let me not switch
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so fast because I still have like work to do
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and like shopping on my skills in this program.
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That's just me. I like to focus on one thing,
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and you know what I'm saying, So.
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One thing that I didn't include when I'm talking about
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you man, it's you know, the biggest bucko with Pack Music. Man,
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talk about Pack Music group and you being the head
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show of the label, and talk about what Packed Music is,
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the how you running that and how you can kind
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of wear so many hats as producer, DJ, you know, label,
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label owner and you know now artists you know.
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Yeah, definitely, Well, Pack Music like started just as a
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concept just with the homies. Then it turned into like
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a production just group, and then I turned it into
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a full like a full blown label like it was.
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It was literally like those three steps, like and these
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are the steps of me just taking my career and
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taking everything I'm doing and it's turning it.
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Into like a professionalism.
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Like I said, it's the concept, so you know, it's
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you know, it's you know, it's just we're just having
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fun with it, almost like a hobby.
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Then it turned into a group. It's just like hanging
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out and doing this because we love it.
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But I was like, no, I'm I'm I'm trying to
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go to the next level with this, Okay, So I
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need to ll see this Okay, So I need to
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you know what I'm saying, like turn this into a
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company and and see what.
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I can do with it.
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But I already had in my in my in my
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head like what I wanted to do. Yeah, yeah, I
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was like, as a producer, I want to be able
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to like have my own you know, label, so you know,
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things I want to do, I can always like like
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just filter it through my label. Even to this day,
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like I'm dropping my album through my own company.
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You know what I'm saying, is it is it tough
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to kind of like transition from wearing one hat to
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the next. Like, you know, you're gonna be going on tour, right,
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please talk about the tour too. You're gonna be going
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on tour as well. He's jumping on tour with what's
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going on? Let let them know the situation.
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Oh yeah, for sure. Sure.
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I mean I'm on my third tour this year, going
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on the Joy Badass Toward the Dark Ora tour. We
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started October fifteen until the end of November, so we're
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about to be on a road for a long time.
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It's about to be a gruelly one, but I love it.
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I enjoy it. These are my These of my favorite people,
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like you know Rahapsy.
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I love her.
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She's like one of my favorite like rappers. You know,
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we don't make songs together already, we already have a report.
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This is my first time, you know, I'm getting to
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know Joey like that. Even though you know we did
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the freestyle of the we did the red Bull freestyle
408
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that was my intro to him, you know what I'm saying,
409
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But now going on tour with him, So I'm I'm
410
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excited about this because this is right up my alley.
411
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I'm a lyric driven just like music lovers, so me
412
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going on with three is three like three of the
413
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best like lyricist. This is It's funny this this tour
414
00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:19.599
about to be head popped. It's about to be it's
415
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about to be all hoodies, backpacks, you know, it's about
416
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to be here.
417
00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:28.119
What's dope about this? I like the way you lined
418
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out your album, lined up your album to kind of
419
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have out there as well. Is that something that you
420
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learned from the previous experiences, Like Okay, I got to
421
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kind of have some type of product because now I
422
00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:39.519
got all eyes on me when they when they come
423
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to my page or when they you know, find out
424
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who I am. You know, all they see are production
425
00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:46.720
for other people, which is cool, but it's no standalone
426
00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:49.720
thing for podon P. So did that plan to you
427
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want to kind of get this project aligned with the
428
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tour as well?
429
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And this is all trial and error. I I regret it,
430
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like this is me not being prepared. But like I said,
431
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everything in line double timing. So no, I mean, of course,
432
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in my perfect world, I know, I mean it works
433
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out because I'm able to drop the album and go
434
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on the road and end a promoter on the road,
435
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you know, while I'm DJing, I'm able to you know,
436
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play some of the songs I can. I can have
437
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my merch y, I can do all that. But but
438
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in my perfect world, no I would. I mean I
439
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tried to, like line so much, so much up and
440
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dropping in July or August something like that. But when
441
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you work with so many different artists, you know what
442
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I'm saying, like, it's hard to get versus back and
443
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get time and get artists in the student at the
444
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same time. So with this being my first project, it
445
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is like a lot of trial and era. How to
446
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go through so to a point where it got me
447
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all the way into the deadline, like on my tour.
448
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So I was gonna say, how how is that for you?
449
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Like managing so many personalities and different artists that you
450
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deal with, relationships that you stacked up over the years.
451
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I'm sure maybe calling in some favors or tapping in
452
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with some folks, Like what was one of the biggest
453
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lessons that you learned putting this project together? Is finally
454
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getting it out there?
455
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That's that's a great question.
456
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Well, first, I'll first, I love it because like I'm
457
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a I'm a people person, Like so I get the
458
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most joy out of like getting so many people together,
459
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and like you make you you form the best relationships
460
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in the studio, you know what I'm saying. And that's
461
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and that's how some of the best music music is made,
462
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because you know, the chemistry is there. I'll I'll get
463
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arts in the studio and we'll just chop it up
464
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for an hour or two before me to make music.
465
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You know what I'm saying.
466
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Because now that are we familiar with each other, you know,
467
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and we're like we're very fond of each other. So
468
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now we're making the best music because the chemistry is there. Ever,
469
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get bounce off ideas things like that everyone's comfortable. What
470
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I did learn though, is and I and I never
471
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take any of it personal. Like if I reach out
472
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to certain artists that I've done music with, are that
473
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you know who will say that, you know, the fans
474
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of me are like I love your work. I'll reach
475
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out for a verse and I don't want to say
476
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no names, but I'll reach out for a verse and like,
477
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you know, I get it done and then drag their feet,
478
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you know what I'm saying things like that, Like, are
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some artists that like I that I'm like, I'm taking
480
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a shot. I'm gonna just take a shot, see if
481
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we're gonna do something, And they'll be like, no, sidle
482
00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:06.599
what you got? But then you know, they'll kind of
483
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leave me on stuck. But like I said, I don't
484
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take it personal because I just always look within. So
485
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I'm just okay, Like I'm just not at that point
486
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yet to where I don't have a relationship with this
487
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artist to where like, you know, I can get something
488
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done with them, because everybody on my project that I have,
489
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I have a I have a good report.
490
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Well yeah, you have. I have a genuine relationship with them.
491
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So that's why I was able to get versus back
492
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so fast and like, bro, I got you of course,
493
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you know what I'm saying, I'll get it back in
494
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two days, versus some artists they'll take so long.
495
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I'll just be like, man, I'm not gonna ask some
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more what I mean, I guess it.
497
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Like you said, it's a learning curve. But at the
498
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same time, it's like your life be life with everybody,
499
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and it's it's it's something that man, it's it's kind
500
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of tough because it's one of those humbling experiences. But
501
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the same time, it's like this is a business man.
502
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No no, and you and I tell people like because
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you know, we all go through this, and as far
504
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as like trying to reach out to people, are feeling
505
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like you're getting shun like you just can't take a
506
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person because you gotta admit, like there's people who reach
507
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out to you and you kind of like brush off
508
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only because you feel like, what's the benefit that I
509
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have into working with y aall doing this with you.
510
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So that's why I'm like, even if the person I'm
511
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reaching out is like, it's not benefiting me right now. No,
512
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I understand you know what I'm saying. No, like you know,
513
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we can circle back around at that time. It you know,
514
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it works out better for both of us. I'm all
515
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for it, but I don't like the well fuck, you
516
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know what I'm saying, Well we you know, forget you
517
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then you know I don't do that.
518
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I don't do that.
519
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But let me let me. Let me bring off some
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names that are on the project man of course A
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Sol Moray shouts at the Homy dre Bow, Tris Shamton, sixteen,
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tf Ice, Cold Bishop, Daylight, Itchy Bond shouts out to
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Willie B Mick Jenkins, A d Airplane, James Epic must die,
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grab Bart Oatmeal, bas Coyotes loops to them two elevens.
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Yet they and also the Army Sir stacked the lineup.
526
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Bro.
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Relationship like curated over the years.
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Everybody who is on there's someone and it's and it's
529
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also it's also new relationships too, like Moray, like I
530
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just I I became friends with him this year just
531
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through through music. I did a song with him through
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my manager Dough Wow. He set me up with him
533
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and then from then we did a double song from then,
534
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you know, I started chopping up with him.
535
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I brought him over to the.
536
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Studio with me, and so we did more music with him,
537
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and once again in the studio we just with the
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bond was created.
539
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You know, I'm so I think I just said a
540
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second a good said recipes. I thought you're talking about
541
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berg're talking about dot network.
542
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Yeah yeah, yeah, but but of course long live a
543
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little bit Burger sure, but but yeah, so like Murray,
544
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he's my guy. Yeah, you know, we formed a bond
545
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like ourselves. We chopped up all the time. That's why
546
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it's like everybody in that project, I have a genuine,
547
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like you know, respecting relationship with for sure.
548
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And you said so for you when when you're creating,
549
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I know you said you'd like to be in the
550
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studio and kind of like had that bond with people
551
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and chop it up and create that production wise, do
552
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you rather be alone and kind of cook that, like
553
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get a foundation up for yourself or do you like
554
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them to be in the studio why you're doing.
555
00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:08.480
No, I like, I like cooking a loan only Yeah,
556
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I'm like that only because like not not not that
557
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I'm paranoid, but like I don't know. I have this
558
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thing like when I'm by myself, I can just be
559
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just max creative and I'm such oh I can't say
560
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people please it, but I'm such aware of like energy
561
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and other people around me.
562
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So if I shrugging your shoulder when you're doing something like.
563
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No, no, it's not even that I could be. I
564
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could be at the table like making the beat and everything.
565
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They could be sitting behind me on the couch. But
566
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like you know, producers, we can like we can work
567
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on the same loop for an hour and so like,
568
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but I'm conscious, I'm like, man, they probably like annoyed
569
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or something like that, so which throws off my my
570
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concentration and that's just me and it's not their fault.
571
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It's just me feeling like you know what I'm saying,
572
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like okay, let me switch it up or now I'm
573
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on sure myself. But I'm by myself, I can literally
574
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just like you know what I'm saying.
575
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Yeah, it's good.
576
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It's good to know what works for you though, man,
577
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because if you can set that back, not even a
578
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set of at the boundary, but just allow people to
579
00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:04.720
know that that's your process, they in turn won't take
580
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it a certain way. Even it's like, look, if you
581
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want the best for me, just letting me cook, you know,
582
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presenting with ideas of what you already know for sure.
583
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And I've and I've been in both works both ways
584
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work because I've been in sessional artists and I'll make
585
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the beat on the spot. But but what I'm learning
586
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is just and me making beasts for myself. It's just
587
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that's my comfort level. So I'm kind of learning to
588
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:29.519
kind of step out of that, yeah, and be uncomfortable
589
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and being you know, students of other producers or things
590
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like that, and just kind of cook with them, like
591
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I rarely collaborate with other producers, like and we've cooked
592
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up at the same time.
593
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Like and so I'm I need I'm learning how to.
594
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Step out of that space and like I said, just
595
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being uncomfortable and just vibing with like other producers and
596
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collabing like Fancis, I'm I want to get one in
597
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with day one.
598
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He just hit me up, like, bro, come on, let's work.
599
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I just seen that you posted something. You posted something
600
00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:57.559
that jumped in the commons styles work, bro.
601
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He been trying to work with me, saying with Maar,
602
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saying with all that it's I'm saying, it's really me
603
00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:05.960
always like like I'm just not me, not being sure.
604
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It's like I don't because I don't know how it's
605
00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:09.759
going to go because it's it's unfamiliar territory for me. So,
606
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like I said, I got to just put myself out there.
607
00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:12.000
But you're the.
608
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Biggest buckle man, the biggest buckle talk about that moniker,
609
00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.279
talk about that name. Where did that stem from? And
610
00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:21.119
I like it because it's it's kind of similar to
611
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:24.319
when t I called himself the King of the South.
612
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:28.839
What I'm saying, themselves the greatest. You pick up this,
613
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you pick up this, this, this, this alter ego, the
614
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Black Mamba, Kobe Bryant, like all these people like that.
615
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.720
I like, I'm just telling you this is what, this
616
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is what I see. I feel like that ever since
617
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you kind of took on that persona things have changed
618
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in a in a in a maximum level. You know
619
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what I'm saying. But but where did that stem from?
620
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And how did you hold on to that? And where
621
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do you see yourself?
622
00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:57.000
It's funny, it's stem from COVID, from COVID like just
623
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clubhouse and so around then, like and I and I
624
00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:06.119
met bro Too shout out Davis. I met bro Too
625
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:08.839
and everything at a at a comedy club. But it
626
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:10.960
was around that time. It was like twenty nineteen, like
627
00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:13.200
he was like he had these skits where he was
628
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like come on buck oh, like he was always doing
629
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that and everything, and so it was just me playing around,
630
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like I just started. I loved it so much. I
631
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just started doing it and just picking up on it.
632
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:24.599
But I remember on clubhouse E remember the club I
633
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was day. That's when it when COVID shut down. Everybody
634
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their mama, every a R was on there, you know, yeah,
635
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so we yeah, it was pretty much a party line.
636
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But from then that's where I like just like brought
637
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:38.799
like brought the buco to Club Bolls. And I was
638
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:40.640
always just saying it, just saying it is making jokes
639
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and to a point where it just stuck with people.
640
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Next you know, they referred to me as like come on, buck,
641
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:46.799
let me guess what what what's up?
642
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:47.599
What's up? Bukoh.
643
00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:50.839
Yeah, and it was it really just became just something
644
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I just like couldn't like stop, and to a point
645
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where like from twenty twenty twenty twenty five, like it's
646
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:57.720
still going but it did take on a life of
647
00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:00.480
his own to where I'm on tour and people like, what's.
648
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.920
Up Buco, hey big Buck. I'm like, I'm I'm amazed.
649
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.920
I'm like, hey, no, this is crazy. You know it's crazy.
650
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:08.519
I could be on stage and people are screaming at
651
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:10.640
I'm like, okay, so this is different, but it is.
652
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.799
I remember me, and you don't have conversations where you
653
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:16.240
like trademarket and this and that, and I'm like, I
654
00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:18.079
wouldn't even I'm still trying to figure out how you
655
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:19.880
even do, like to do merch with that.
656
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:21.799
Bro I saw when I saw Lebron posted, I.
657
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:26.359
Said that was different. When Lebron was like, what are
658
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:26.880
we doing?
659
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:32.799
I'm like, oh, but even even with that, like like
660
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.519
I said, even when it comes to merch, because like
661
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:40.079
for instance, with keem Are, or even with you, when
662
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:42.920
it comes to like you know, the dad things you
663
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:45.680
get that that you guys got going like like see,
664
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:47.279
like so yours can be a stand alone. So I'm
665
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:49.200
trying to figure out even how to like merch like
666
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:51.960
Bucco and I come on a Bucko shirt, but like
667
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:55.079
I still want something that like stands on his own,
668
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.319
that means something you know what I'm saying, Yeah, but
669
00:27:57.319 --> 00:27:59.359
but no, but it has, but it has taken on
670
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:00.839
it like a life it is on as far as
671
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:02.599
like that, that's really my alter ego.
672
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.160
I'm telling you, man, Simplicity is the best that the
673
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:10.079
best thing, bro. Just man, just just do it. And
674
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.839
like just like everything else in your career, it's like
675
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:15.599
you find your way to it and and things just
676
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:16.160
kind of like.
677
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:18.119
Just fall into it, fall into it, and things that
678
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:20.359
will work will work its way out.
679
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:24.640
But nah, I love the fact that that has taken
680
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:27.200
on a life of its own. It's something that's probably
681
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:28.480
you didn't even see it was gonna go.
682
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:30.920
To to a point where there's a there's a Buckle
683
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:34.640
Junior song. You know what I'm saying, Like no, yeah, no,
684
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:38.799
and so like even my yeah no, it's no, It's
685
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.400
it's crazy to me, man, And I'm just like I'm
686
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:43.960
never gonna start like this is here to stay.
687
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:46.759
So so on on a personal tip, bro, like how
688
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:49.279
do you deal with like cause, I mean you you've
689
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.480
seen a lot of things happen throughout the course of years,
690
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:55.160
you know, losing folks, you know, being being down with
691
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.240
day ones and and and situations happen. How do you
692
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:03.440
balance mentality wise when things are going on with with
693
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.519
with with homies and personal ship, Like how do you
694
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:07.720
how do you manage being there for them, but at
695
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.839
the same time keeping your middle you know, your sanity
696
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.519
there as well. No, you got wife as well, you
697
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:15.440
got things that's happening in your life that you've got
698
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:17.519
to attend to. How do you balance both of those
699
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:20.240
life of the entertainment business, personal ship and your own
700
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:20.920
mental sanity.
701
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.720
I mean, as you know, it's it's a you know,
702
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.000
it's an every day It's it's an every day like
703
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:29.480
fight that you have. Are Like, how I do it
704
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.000
is like I like just to simplify my life. So
705
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:35.559
I've always been like that, So you know, even with
706
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.200
you know, me and my wife and is that is
707
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:40.759
music and it is my you know, my circle of friends.
708
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:43.519
But I mean, how I do it every day is
709
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:46.200
like I just focus on just stamp, just being present.
710
00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:47.960
It's really just about that.
711
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.039
Like the minute i'm you know, I'm I'm I'm fixated
712
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:54.039
or I'm caught up in other people's like you know,
713
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:56.960
woes or problems are life. That's how I lose track
714
00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.079
of what I got going on so every day I'm
715
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:02.920
always focusing on just being present and and just and
716
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:04.480
just focusing on what I have to do. You know
717
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:06.640
what I'm saying, Like this in my life, being president
718
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:09.880
is so important. Like I'm learning that even you know,
719
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:11.920
at this age right now could be for It's a
720
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:13.960
lot of times where I wasn't like that, but now
721
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.680
I'm I'm really honing in on that, like so much
722
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.680
of just being present, even with social media and things
723
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:22.319
like that, Like I still struggle with it, but even
724
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.440
waking up in the morning, like I'm trying not to
725
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:27.160
like be on my phone because you can. You can
726
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:29.759
wake up and go on social media. You can scroll
727
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:31.640
on social media. You go through five different emotions before
728
00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:33.160
you get out the bed. You know what I'm saying.
729
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:35.519
You're scrolling, so you're seeing some more missing out on
730
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:37.440
this all. I'm jealous of this. I'm sad at this.
731
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:39.960
You haven't got the bed yet, so your morning's already.
732
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:42.119
You know how I know you you kind of like
733
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.640
really tapped into zen and inner peace. And I've seen
734
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.759
you with the cat. Bro I seen you with the cat.
735
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.960
I said, no, no, no, no, this didn't look this
736
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:52.720
is all this, This is all my wife doing. Man,
737
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.039
So yeah, no, this is it's not my cats.
738
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:58.119
Cat was petting the cat.
739
00:30:58.279 --> 00:30:59.079
I got two cats.
740
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:01.000
I got two cats.
741
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:04.319
Yeah, no, no, And it's funny. I've never been a
742
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:06.039
cat person ever in my life. I never had cat.
743
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:09.200
I never had cats growing upthing like that. But it's
744
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.119
so much easier, han't cast They're like roommates, bro, Look
745
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:12.440
at Yeah, I ain't gotta tell you. I ain't got
746
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.279
to know because I did. I did the dog the
747
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:19.599
salesman for the cat. Look, I'm telling y'all, like, but
748
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:22.039
you know, it's funny. Cats have a black Cats have
749
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:23.960
a bad rap among black in the black community.
750
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:28.000
For real. My mama hate, mama hate cats.
751
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:29.720
Somebody, I got my son on the now, if we
752
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:31.640
see a cat in the back, get.
753
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:32.920
Out of why is that that?
754
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:33.319
Man?
755
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:34.519
Like, no, what what happened?
756
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:34.759
Man?
757
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.079
Look what happened with black people and cats? Cats just
758
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.480
be there for me personally and this this war. Maybe
759
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.720
you can help me out because that's where I know
760
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:44.160
you got that inner piece of that zen. When I
761
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:46.759
see cats, I'm just annoyed. They were always in my backyard,
762
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:49.839
always just doing But I mean, but but they wasn't
763
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:51.519
First of all, they weren't doing crazy. They was doing
764
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:56.240
crazy stuff. There was there was screaming, There was crazy
765
00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:03.160
screaming and hit in the back exactly. Nah. But the
766
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.319
fact that you've got to that point, and my point
767
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.359
in that is that you've learned how to kind of
768
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:13.200
compromise with your situation and with your wife and I
769
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.160
and I think that's dope, right. I'm sure you have
770
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:17.759
your ways and things that you want to do, but
771
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:19.880
you learned how to how to compromise in oh, and
772
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.640
I think it's it's applied in life as well. You
773
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:24.400
know what I'm saying. When you learn to master stuff
774
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:26.640
like that, it shows up in different areas of your life.
775
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:28.400
So the fact that you're able to do that, things
776
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.000
that you weren't comfortable with years ago, whatever the case
777
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.599
may be, you've learned to now do it the same thing.
778
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.279
I think that that always. That also applies with the music,
779
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:38.200
things that you may not have been comfortable with years
780
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.720
ago sound wise sonically. Now you can kind of take
781
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:43.039
it to the next level and explore different things.
782
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.240
And you know what, and that and that gives me
783
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.200
like wisdom and strength for any other things in the
784
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:50.960
future that I made another obstacle, I may come across
785
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.799
because now I come across a new obstacle, and so
786
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:55.000
I'm like, man, I'm gonna get through this.
787
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:55.400
Okay.
788
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:57.720
Let me just like I said once again, you you
789
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.839
look within and e be present and you just really Okay,
790
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:02.559
you've been to this before, like you know what I'm saying,
791
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:04.799
Like you overcame this, You ever came that?
792
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.160
So okay, how did you do that? Okay? You locked
793
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:07.720
in do this?
794
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.720
So no, you know, everybody comes from experience, just like
795
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:12.960
overcoming certain things that I never think I'll do.
796
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.319
Now it's another obstacle. Okay, I can get do this.
797
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:17.519
So let me talk about one obstacle that you may
798
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:19.279
or may not have had to deal with it and
799
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.359
without there's no names anything like that, but when it
800
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.119
comes to you know, people on your production, it's a
801
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.720
sacred thing. I'm assuming, right. Has there ever been a
802
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:32.480
moment where you give somebody a beatpack or somebody's on
803
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:35.319
a song and they just don't deliver the way you
804
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.640
want them to do? What is that conversation to let
805
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.880
them know like oh you yeah, you can't, We're gonna
806
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.039
take You're gon We're gonna take you.
807
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.200
Okay. Are you saying like you can't have to beat
808
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:45.599
are we taking you off the song? Which one?
809
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:48.640
Listen, let's do take him off the song? But then yeah,
810
00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:50.400
let's do that one because the beat that that can
811
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.920
be subjective because for a range of reagions, it might
812
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:53.480
go to somebody else.
813
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:55.759
Yeah, I mean a lot of that one beat. It's
814
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:56.240
just business.
815
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:59.960
Like you know, if somebody's on on on a song
816
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.920
with yours, right and they just not delivered, Like, what's
817
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.960
that conversation you have with them?
818
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:12.760
Hey, don't networks that that's really that's really happened. Like
819
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:15.800
I can't say that, but no, that really happened on
820
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:20.239
the song that that that recorded a bunch of people
821
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.039
on it, but it was one person that was kind
822
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.920
of like that was that was kind of like the
823
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:26.840
Weekly It was slacking it. And first of all, it
824
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:28.880
was too many people on the song, and so I
825
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:30.000
was like, somebody got to come off.
826
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:32.000
And I was like, I know exactly when you come off.
827
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:36.000
Like man, I'm like, no, man, you gotta let them know, man,
828
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:37.559
because you know what I'm saying, don't know him to
829
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:40.760
you know, y'all break it to him. Because and this
830
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:43.599
is why having management is so important, because my job
831
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.239
is to keep the relationships. I always tell people that, like, bro,
832
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:48.920
like get you a manager, are an assistant.
833
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.400
So if so, you don't have to be the bad guy.
834
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:52.360
Let them be the bad guy.
835
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:54.280
But you've had to deal with that and be in
836
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:55.880
that role as well as you know.
837
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.800
Oh yeah, for sure. It's the thing.
838
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:01.960
I didn't mind being a bad guy for the artist
839
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:04.719
that I always representing. Yeah, yeah, if they don't want
840
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:06.880
to do it, Look, they don't want to do it, this, this,
841
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:08.119
how much is going to be? You know, I didn't
842
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:11.400
I didn't mind stepping into that role of like, yeah,
843
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.079
of having to be the bad guy because, like I said,
844
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.000
because I'm all about holding integrity, you know what I'm saying,
845
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:19.840
So like you know this, this is what this person wants,
846
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:21.559
Like we're not going to be in the break or anything.
847
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.119
And if you don't want to do it, then you
848
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.719
know that's fine, you know what I'm saying. But yeah,
849
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:29.320
because I'm all about holding integrity, I'm really about that.
850
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.519
I'm not I'm not gonna like like I said, the
851
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:33.599
PE's or anything like that. So it was it was
852
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:35.760
easy for me to do that, but I understand when
853
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:37.960
it comes to me now and having to do it. Yeah,
854
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:39.840
I don't want to tell people no if I if
855
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:41.400
it's something that me and you have to deal with,
856
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.360
I'd rather like how my manager do and then y'all
857
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:43.960
can figure it out.
858
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:45.800
It's smart, I mean, that's the business side of it.
859
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:49.679
So of course, moving forward, all right, the project born
860
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.119
is going to be dropping, all right. I want to
861
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:54.480
kind of leave this as if the projects out I
862
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:55.880
know is going to be coming out at the end
863
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:56.519
of August.
864
00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.960
I meanry audience, otok, But there.
865
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:03.559
I like putting dates on things at the same time,
866
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:05.480
you know, whenever you see this, you know, at some
867
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.719
point down the line after October thirteenth, going to support
868
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:11.119
it or whatever the case may be. But before we
869
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:13.800
get out of here, I want to talk about how
870
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:18.800
would you describe Python p's sound style? And the second
871
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:22.360
portion to that is how do you expand on that
872
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:26.559
and maybe pivot or how do you how do you
873
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:28.880
shape your sound for for future for the future down
874
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:29.559
the line as well?
875
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.400
For sure, how I explain my sound is how I
876
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.039
how I would explain who I am as a person.
877
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:42.519
You know me, I'm I'm heavy into zodiacs. I know
878
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.039
a lot of people not I'm heavy the zodiac. I mean,
879
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.280
I'm a Gemini. You know our you know our our
880
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.000
trades and characterations. You know, one of them is worth chameleons.
881
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:54.599
So we can kind of absorb and kind of fit
882
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:58.559
a lot of people's mode. So and music it translates
883
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:01.320
to that. So I can make so many different sounds.
884
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:04.480
And I do that because once again, like I like to,
885
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.239
I like to morph into like you know, and it's
886
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:08.800
a challenge for me, and I take on the challenge.
887
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:10.119
It excites me.
888
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:12.440
If if Sarah wants the type of beat, okay, I
889
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:15.360
can make that. If if if so need the type
890
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.840
of bead or you know, if cold one stance our daylight.
891
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:21.760
Once that, Like I pride myself and having just an
892
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:25.280
arrange of sounds because you know it'll be to me,
893
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:27.039
I'll be bored if I'm just making one type of.
894
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:31.000
Yeah you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So, but me, just.
895
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:35.639
The evolution of my sound will always me, will always
896
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:39.519
be me, just always like taking risks and just me
897
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:40.480
trusting myself.
898
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:42.880
So what does that look like when you say take
899
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:46.880
risks and challenging yourself as a producer. What are some
900
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:48.559
of the and the reason why I asked this is
901
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:51.840
because I noticed somebody that's watching you, listening to you
902
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:53.719
as a fan of you. You know, it looks up
903
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:55.840
to you that may not have access to you. So
904
00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:58.920
if you can give that producer, that that creative that
905
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:00.320
a certain I.
906
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.760
Got the perfect And I tell people, I tell my
907
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:06.320
homies this. I tell people who you know who ask
908
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:07.760
me for the if I tell them the same thing.
909
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:12.079
Stop stop asking people what they think about your art,
910
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.239
because when you do that, like when even Mahomie teld
911
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.039
me asks me, like what you about this be or
912
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:18.519
this song?
913
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:20.440
I'm like, bro, what do you think about it? Like
914
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:21.719
that's what matter? Do you think it's dope?
915
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.800
Okay, that's all that matters because you like you asking
916
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:26.400
so many people, hey, which talk about this? Which think
917
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:29.880
about this beat? Now there aret there are like may
918
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:31.800
not be your art, so are they may not even
919
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:33.320
be in the mood to hear what you want to hear.
920
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:36.280
So now you're getting feedback that that's not even warranted,
921
00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:38.920
and now it's discouraging you. And I've been through that,
922
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:40.880
you know what I'm saying. Like and so me, I
923
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:43.639
never ask people like what they think about my music.
924
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:47.559
My job is to make sure the quality of my
925
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:50.000
music is there, So I don't take anything personal. If
926
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.159
I send beats out to certain artists and they're not
927
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:53.960
feeling it, Okay, you're not feeling it for sure, it's
928
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:56.119
just not for you. But I'm a damn sure make
929
00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:58.280
sure the quality of it is a one to where
930
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:01.199
you can't even like you can you can't judge art,
931
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:02.760
but you can judge quality.
932
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:05.239
You can let them know, ah, that's the terrible art.
933
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:06.760
This beat sounds like you know what I'm saying, like
934
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:08.559
and you know, and you you know you do it
935
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.039
all the time, even with your you know what what
936
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:12.400
you used to do when you see like you know here,
937
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.320
I don't know why it's fleeting with direct yourself. So
938
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:18.400
you know as far as like you know, some song
939
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:20.719
may not be for you, but you know quality, you
940
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:21.159
know what I'm saying.
941
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:22.480
I can judge you on that. I can help you
942
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:22.760
on that.
943
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.880
But would always tell people like, just trust your sound,
944
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:27.400
trust your vision, likes, don't ask people what they think
945
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:29.599
about your art, Like just what if you think it's dope,
946
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:30.639
go with it, man.
947
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:31.599
And that's all I do.
948
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:33.960
Like when I make music, if I think it's dope,
949
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:36.440
I'm going with it, even if it's something that's like
950
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.159
that's that hasn't like came out, it's a different sound.
951
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:40.760
If I think it's dope, I'm going with it. I'm
952
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:43.280
pushing it to people. Yeah, and if you trust me,
953
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.480
just just doing goddamn verse on this.
954
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:48.119
Now what I didn't ask you? Uh, and we'll close
955
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:49.800
out with this. Why the name born?
956
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:55.559
Okay, so buco it's actually an acronym B dot U
957
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:56.519
dot C dot K.
958
00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:57.360
I don't know that.
959
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:00.880
There you go, okay, and that's what I can't do.
960
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:04.119
So and so why would you even do?
961
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.199
But but but but I'm but I'm gonna tell you though.
962
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:11.840
So the first the first letter is born and born born,
963
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.719
I got the take one second, and you're never gonna
964
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:21.400
get the c K Carson, I'm definitely comping. I'm definitely
965
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:28.960
not born under said the content, you know, outside.
966
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:33.960
Born under comp kicking it outside that's hey, that's some ghetto.
967
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.519
Come on, man, I'm I'm I'm way more layered than that.
968
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:41.039
I'm just saying I wouldn't know. So look so now, look, so,
969
00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:44.400
so the first one is born. That's why you know,
970
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:46.039
you see my cover art is going to match that
971
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.719
the whole thing. But So that's why this whole buckle
972
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.000
all my albums, it's going to be a series that's
973
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:53.639
gonna spell out.
974
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:54.840
It's gonna be.
975
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.840
Born and then you know born. I'll give you that
976
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:01.639
one born under I'll give you that one. The second
977
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:03.280
was born down there, and then the born whom they're
978
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:05.719
born all the way into the He's not going to
979
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:09.199
can I can I I guess this this well, this
980
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:11.400
is not well unfortunate. Let me just guess it just
981
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:16.079
is to see a place or a city. It's not
982
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:19.800
a location. It is a okay, state is a state
983
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:23.679
of mind? Is definitely okay, I'll take that. Now, give
984
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:28.079
you some central central centered. No it's not center, it's
985
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:29.800
something like that's that's relative to that.
986
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.239
No, No, it is, it's the opposite the center.
987
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.559
Yeah, confused, confusion, Yeah.
988
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.559
But it's not it. Okay, that's yeah.
989
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:46.280
We are going under chaotic ohip almost almost chaos, almost
990
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:50.719
almost confusion. Look, I'm getting there about to confuse you,
991
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:54.760
I said, confused learning Damn, everybody's everybody.
992
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:57.360
We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna talk.
993
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.480
Okay, I don't talk afterwards, but but for the people
994
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:02.679
at the five at bath though and look and and
995
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:04.320
by the time I get to the old you might
996
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:07.719
you might get a sixteen from I might might, I
997
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:10.280
might guess something. But but but but but I'm dropping
998
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:13.800
my first single next Tuesday and on the thirtieth. It's
999
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:16.559
it's called that. That's what the song is called, my
1000
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:18.280
first single, especially to me. That's why I did it
1001
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:22.079
with my brothers. Uh, you know, so tf ice cool Bishop,
1002
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:23.760
these are like these are these are my guys? So
1003
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:28.159
Christ boom Christ Christ. I am Catholic, but you know
1004
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.360
well baptized Cathy. I don't know if I'm not anymore?
1005
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:36.000
Wow, are you denouncing not playing stop man the biggest
1006
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:39.639
bucko pe man? It's an honor, end of course, y'all
1007
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:42.320
could Uh? I do want to give the folks the
1008
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:45.480
heads up that check the record with me and Christians
1009
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:48.679
don't remember us, right, I'm saying, he said, we we
1010
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:49.719
we co working.
1011
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:52.440
Well, this is why we can kick the shape.
1012
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:54.440
But this is it's a it's a full circle moment, man,
1013
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:55.920
And I'm proud of what you've been able to do.
1014
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:58.760
And I'm glad you you're stepping outside and showing people
1015
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.360
more of yourself. And you know, can't wait to actually
1016
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:05.480
see the full series kind of play out and see what.
1017
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:07.559
Folks can be you man, Yeah, no, I know, and
1018
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:09.719
I appreciate you because you've seen you was You've been
1019
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.440
there from the beginning like seeing my you know, trajectory
1020
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:15.920
and just you know, seeing me figure it out and
1021
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:19.440
going through different like phases to hear so like once again,
1022
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:20.800
that's special to me to sit in front of you
1023
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:22.400
and be able to you know, be able to talk
1024
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:25.159
about it, man, like, Yeah, just have my peoples.
1025
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:26.800
Like you here, Man, that that that means a lot
1026
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:27.000
to me.
1027
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:29.400
Man. It just shows like where I've come to, where
1028
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:31.320
I could be in a room and it just feels
1029
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:33.079
like I'm kicking it, you know what I'm saying. That's
1030
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:36.159
what it's about, man, Python The Biggest Buckle born the
1031
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.480
album in October thirteen.
1032
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.679
Have my release party on the twelve, and make sure you're.
1033
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:44.119
There, please, I'm there, Brokay might bring the kids. You
1034
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:44.639
know what I'm saying.
1035
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:47.079
It is a family fair. It is a family affair.
1036
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:49.639
It's a family affair. Come on, I'll be the cats.
1037
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:54.840
That's what it is. Cats going under cats. That's a
1038
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:58.800
good wrap up. Keeping it all wrong. People catch you
1039
00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:00.079
out next time o