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Ian Crossland. Welcome to hard Truths.
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Man.
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How are you doing today?
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Great dude?
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You know, first question, do you know what these cards
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are over here?
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Well?
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I know I know their magic. I thought they were
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magic cards. I couldn't tell if they were magic or Pokemon,
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but I thought they were magic cards. But what I
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can't tell what cards they are? Are they? What are they?
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How dare you judge me think that I'm a Pokemon card? Now,
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I know you played magic cards, but.
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Do you did you play Pokemon?
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I played Pokemon Go, so like, yeah, okay, but I
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didn't play Pokemon cards or whatever.
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But okay, so I was a.
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Kid and I played.
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I grew up with magic cards, but like I never
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really like played, you know, in the nineties, and then
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as an adult I kind of got into it. And actually, uh,
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this is the coach sent me that uncut sheet right there.
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That's a war the spark, the one with all the planes.
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Walkers in it. I don't know if you remember, but
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I bought some stuff from them, and they like mess
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up the order, so they sent these, uh these cards.
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I just think it looks really cool. So I got it.
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It looks amazing. Dude, are they foil.
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Yeah. Yeah, they're all like the foil plane that looks
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so good. I don't know, and I just lean into
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being a nerd anyway. I'm not ashamed of it at all.
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Yeah, it's mathematics magic the gathering. It's just math with
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the colors and pictures of dragons and shit. But it's
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all math.
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Yeah. Let me ask you that.
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That brings me to kind of My first question is
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have you ever heard the thing about, like I know
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you're a musician, that mathematicians when they are asked what
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study are do they most relate to?
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I think that they overwhelmingly agreed music was the answer.
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Have you ever heard that before? Do you agree with Yeah?
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I have heard that. It's works with me too, especially geometry.
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I think of music as like spatial sound, spatial awareness, moving.
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I think of a lot in terms of momentum and
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like pattern, like when you moved, when you walk across
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the room, it's like a pattern. I see, like a
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pattern of motion, and so I hear that when I
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hear sound, like I can picture one, three, five, and
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I see it on a graph, and that's just like
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a line graph. I can picture the shape of the sound.
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But then you can actually hear like the wholeness of
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tone as well, and it kind of creates these like
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spherical canonical shapes and things like that. And I think
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a lot of is like filling space. Similar with cooking,
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you want to like make sure there's enough seasoning in
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all the little parts of the bowl and that no
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part of the thing is too hot, that all the
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temperatures evenly dispersed. So it's kind of with sound is similar.
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You know.
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The other thing that reminds me of is I think
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this is something that we talked about on the podcast
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when we were on.
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Culture Wars, was like waves versus particles.
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You know, is that when you think of sound like that,
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when you think of you know, you're really describing waves.
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In my opinion, you know, it's like the up down motion.
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It's like you're this resonance kind of that's out there.
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I think that the question is is matter is matter
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a wave? Can matter be a wave?
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We stuck in this particle mindset where everything must be
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this definite thing, definite thing? But is it possible that
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we are just a complex series of wave forms? But
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we you know that there's some other explanation. Do you
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do you agree with the that kind of viewpoint, that
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esotery viewpoint.
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Yeah. And you know, after wayping, you and you came
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on and you you and you came on the culture war,
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I started thinking a lot about subatomic spin and like
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what's causing it? You know, the scientific community thinks maybe
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was it angular momentum, But then they're like no, because
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that would mean that these two vortices are traveling the
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speed of light, which is not possible. So what is it?
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They don't know? I think it's simatics that there's a
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vibration of space time that's causing the position of the
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subatomic space to face left, and then the frequency changes
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and it faces north, then it changes again, it faces east,
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faces south as the frequency changes, but the frequency is
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changing so fast that it looks like it's spinning. And
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so there's some maybe low, maybe not imperceivable vibration, but
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I think eventually we'll end up being able to measure
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what's causing shape to snap to that form.
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No, that's a good way to put it.
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And so we were talking about quantum spin, and we
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know there is spin when we look at particles at
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the quantum level because we can see like the perturbation
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and we can measure that, like we can put electromagnetic.
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Fields next to them.
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We can see these things react, So we know that
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there must be this quantum spin. But then it's like,
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what does that actually mean? You could watch videos all
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day of people online trying to explain quantum spin, but
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end of the day, it's like, we know it has
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the properties of something that's spinning, but at the same time,
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we think of it as just this like quantum kind
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of magical uh.
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You know, dot this particle. So it's hard for us
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to wrap our brains around that.
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I think one other thing that could open the door
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to that is something we talked about on the podcast too,
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which is the ether. It's like the idea of this
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extra dimension that was thrown out, you know, like one
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hundred years ago. Because if there is this spin that's happening,
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if there is some effect that's had, where's it coming from?
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What's causing that to happen? And surely there must be
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some force kind of pushing on it from some direction
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to cause it to spin or for something like that
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to happen. Have you had any thoughts about the idea
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of the ether and extra dimension at all?
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Well? Yeah, but what does that mean? Exc What is
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ether exactly? Is that the fabric of space time is ether.
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They think it's an actual fabric.
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So not really like we've kind of moved away from
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this like fluid medium. I mean, it really would be
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a super fluid if you were really described it as
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a lot of different ways to describe it, but you
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could say that space time itself is like a flexible solid.
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So it can like it's solid, but it can move,
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it can jiggle it a little bit, like it's.
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Connected, but it can move around.
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Leonard Suskind, who's written is kind of popularized er equals EPR.
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I think he would call it like anti desiter space.
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So it's almost like a counter space. So like you
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have this the universe trying to expand you know, at
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the same time you have this force pointed together at
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the same time.
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So but that's more.
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I don't know how he geometrically like connect how they
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connect it together. But the way I perceive it is
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like Yin and Yang's like you've got our observable reality
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and then you have this quantum reality and they say
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it must be connected through this idea of quantum gravity
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that is in this imperceivable extra dimension. And what this
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then opens the door up to is like you know,
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wormholes and things like that, where you would say that
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like the holographic principle. So if I'm playing a video game,
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like if I'm playing Minecraft or something, it seems like
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I'm in a three dimensional world when I'm playing the
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video game, but I know I'm not really, I know, really,
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I'm on a microchip somewhere right, and that if I
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were to take that microchip, I could connect it to
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a different microchip somewhere else, and now you know they
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would be together, but you know, they would.
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Seem to be super far away. It's kind of like
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that idea.
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And I think that the ether then adds this extra
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dimension to explain like how can you you know, how
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can you wrap something together? There must be some medium
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that you're in in order for like that type of
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thing to happen.
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Does that make sense?
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Yeah, So it's like a sub atomic real, like the
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fabric of the sub atomic reality.
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Yeah, And so like molecules will like exchange energy with
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this ether all the time. So it's the idea that
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like hal Pudov's nineteen eighty seven paper that says ground
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state of the hydrogen atom is he says it, Oh,
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this at the hydrogen atom when it's at rest, it's
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not radiating energy, but they would expect it.
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To radiate energy.
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And they're saying, well, why doesn't it do that because
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it's spinning, right, it's got this quantum spin. And they say, well,
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it's because it must be in some sort of equilibrium,
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like whatever energy is being radiated out must be getting
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absorbed in at the same exact rate.
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So there's this idea that.
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Like particles are actually just exchanging energy with the zero
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point energy all the time, so they might have like
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a reservoir of energy that they're kind of like tapping into.
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So I think that's a way to put it.
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Nasim Harriman has this concept of the schwartz Child proton,
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where he had mathematically derived that every proton was two
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protons spinning around each other at the speed of light,
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putting information into the vacuum. Maybe it's the ether is
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what he's talking about that he calls of the vacuum
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of space time, and so it's repositive depositing information into
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the vacuum. The vacuum itself then is doing a massive
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calculation of everything in the known universe and then giving
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you a local response in it lights as the net
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as the photon emerges from the vacuum back into reality.
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And so that may be how the information is being
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or one way that information is being transmitted into the
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subsystem into the Would.
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You guys ever talk to him or had him on
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the show or no.
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I've only seen his stuff. Yeah, I've been. People have
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been telling me to contact him for literally nineteen years.
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I would love to get in touch with them.
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Yeah, And I just realized we're actually live on YouTube.
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I accidentally went live without realizing this. So okay, I
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guess we're just going to play.
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This out awesome rock and oops.
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Yeah, go ahead, both of you on. I'll like re
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edit it, probably re upload it later on. Okay, I
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just realized it. Okay, So yeah, now seem here.
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I mean, you know, he's I think he's the only
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person who can claim the title of zero point energy
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Influencer more than I can, probably because he's like the
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OG and one of the things to a lot of
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these guys. One of the things I've realized is they
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use the different terminology for the same stuff, So you
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will he'll hear people use like quantum vacuum, or they'll
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use a vacuum, but they'll also say, well, the vacuum
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is not empty, you know, it's it's not an empty vacuum.
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And so it's the same ideas that the zero point
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energy of the ether. Uh, they're connected through this idea
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of an extra dimension.
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And this is where I wanted to kind.
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Of take it in the next uh kind of discussion
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with you, which is that like the alien topic, you know,
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especially recently, ANNAPOLINEA Luna was on Joe Rogan and she
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was talking about, you know, the extra dimensional aliens. I mean,
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you guys have heard this thing. You guys have either
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had her Nancy Mace or you know, you guys have
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had people.
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On the Yeah, we had both. Yeah. We we interviewed
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Luna Ana Paulina Luna while we were at Congress. We
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did like a roundtable where different congressmen were coming in
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and sitting down. So she came in for about twenty minutes,
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and then Nancy Mace we had on officially as a
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guest on IRL once.
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So what are your thoughts, what do you think about
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Congress and what do you think about this UFO disclosure stuff?
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I think that extra Okay, I think it is. It's
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a misnomer to say extra dimensional. That's insane. You and
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I are extra dimensional creatures. We live in multiple dimensions.
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We are in the fourth dimension. We actually exist in
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the fifth dimension, even though you might not see it
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with your eyeballs. So that is like a really dumb
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layman thing to say extra dimensional, that these things are
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extra dimensional. Yes, of course. Uh you know, if we're
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talking like spirits, that's a I don't believe them. I
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don't believe that spirits are piloting airplanes. I don't.
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Yeah, I need evidence, you said, so, okay, so this
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is why this is the thing too.
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what does that actually mean?
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Like, yeah, we're extra.
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Dimensional beans, we live in three dimensions and a time dimension.
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So it seems like it's just like a red hairy
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and they're just throwing this idea. They're trying to make
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it sound scary or something like sensationalized, like oh, yeah,
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the extra dimension. Because when I found like, okay, there's
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this extra dimension, this ether, and you know, maybe this
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explains how we can do wormholes, I'm going, well, I
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wouldn't call a bean that goes through a wormhole an
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extra dimensional bean.
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I would just say it just went through a wormalle.
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It's still in our universe.
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I mean, you know, I mean, but granted it could
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come run different you know, universe if you believe in
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multi worlds theory. So I guess what I would want
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to know from them when they're asking this stuff is like,
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are you saying that there's infinite universes and that you
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can go to different ones? Because that would be a
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major physics claim to say, right, is that there are
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multiple universes and aliens are coming from a different universe
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than we're coming from.
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So, I mean, do you what do you think?
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Do you think there she's just doesn't understand physics and science,
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or do you think that like this is some kind
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of narrative that's being pushed.
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Well, she doesn't understand what extra dimensional means. Obviously, if
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she's just repeating that, she's repeating what she was told
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by someone that probably was told that or decided that's
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the narrative we're going to run with. But I also
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think they are working with like space time warping technology
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that they're creating cavitation bubbles and defying you know, classical
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physics and things like that.
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Yeah, and I mean you just have to listen to
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like what Science and Technology advisor Michael Kratzios has been saying,
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if you you know, if you question that, I mean
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literally said, we have the ability to manipulate time and
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space to annihilate distance. And we've had Trump say multiple
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times that we've got weapons that nobody understands.
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How they work.
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I mean you said it multiple times like it had
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to be scripted. Basically, people think that manipulating time and
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space is some magical sci fi Star trek type thing,
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but actually it's much simpler than that. It's really just
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about I mean, gravity is just mass that's condensed into
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a region, that's just pulling on something. That's the way
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we at least perceive it, right, It's not necessarily exactly correct,
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but mass is just energy equals mc square. So in theory,
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if you have a whole bunch of energy, then you
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should have gravity being sucked towards that, right. I mean,
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that's a simple thing to understand. So then what then,
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I would say, Okay, well, at what scale, like does it.
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Have to be a sphere? Of mass like this size
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of my this sphere here, or can it be a
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super super super tiny dot? Right?
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Can it be a super tiny dot and I just
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compact as much energy onto that little little tiny dot.
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Is it really about energy density?
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It's really about how much can you compact onto a
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little tiny point. And turns out when you look at
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it from that perspective, it's not that insurmountable of the challenge.
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It turns out we can have like these super powerful
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lasers that focus energy onto a very tiny point in
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time and in space, and that, in theory could be
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enough to stimulate a gravitational effect of me, you know, measured,
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and then that can also be useful for things like
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fusion as well. So it's I don't think it's surprises
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anybody that they're at least working on the ideas of
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anti gravity or gravity manipulation, space time manipulation, whatever you
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want to call it, it's all the same thing. I
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would just call it, like manipulation of the ether. You
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were talking about cimatics, Like, the question is how do
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you manipulate entanglement?
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How do you create entanglement?
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I think you need to understand where you're going, so
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What you do is you have to map the matrix.
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You get a three dimensional space, and then you you
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derive what is in each position, how the consistency, how
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much of it and where? So what how much and where?
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If you can mapch that for every incremental metal point
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in this three dimensional x y z cube, then you've
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mapped the matrix. You know what, where and how much
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of each in each space. Then you have a mathematical map.
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You can teleport too. So if you know where you're going,
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if you know what you're going, you know where you're going,
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what you're going, it's the same thing. What where? It's
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all one thing. What is it? That is where it is?
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If you know that and you can calculate that, then
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you can target it, I think, and then you can
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you can replicate it locally and be there at a distance.
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You know.
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They have a term for what you just said. It's
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called solving Schrodinger's equation. So actually there are people working
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on this idea of like if there is a medium
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and even though we can't perceive it, is there a
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way where we can like reverse engineer, like you said,
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like figure out the matrix? Right, Like we only imagine,
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we only see this flat surface. Is there a way
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to figure out, like, what is all this like with
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this whole bulk here that we can't see? Is there
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a way to measure, measure it and measure its effect
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on our flat two D reality? And the answer is yes.
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The Aaron Hoff Bom effect is a good example of this.
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Aeronoff Bom effect is a real experiment. They take a
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solenoid that traps all the electromagnetic fields in a cylinder
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inside of it, and you would say, okay, well, there's
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no electromagnetic field signal on the outside of the solenoid,
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so if I shoot an electron past it, nothing, there
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shouldn't be any interference or any you know, shift in
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the phase pattern.
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There's an actual measurable effect. It's called the scaler potential
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and so or the magnetic scalar potential of it. And
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so the question here then is if you can measure this,
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then can you reverse engineer it. There's a great uh
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presentation that I was watching about or or optical vortices
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of light, and really what it was about was like
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trying to figure out like if you have this vortex motion,
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if you were looking at a two dimensional surface and
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you just saw a circle. Could you map out what
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the vortex motion is in an extra dimension?
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Could you map it out?
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And after they model it out a while, they come
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up with and they say, oh, here's an equation that
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you know, seems like it fits what the experimental data shows.
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And so from that that kind of you know, answers
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the question too. Could you actually create entanglement? Could you
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manipulate the ether or this extra dimension to cause two
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things to be you know, joined together.
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Now maybe, well, yes, if you can solve it.
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But if we can figure out the subatomic formation of
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the matter and then figure out what frequencies if this
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theory that it's a simatic you know, phenomenon that's causing
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sub atomic formation, if you can figure out what frequencies
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cause the sub atomic formation to cause the matter to be,
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what is thus like this this area that you want
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to entangle to, then it would be more of creating
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the frequency patterns in a system to reproduce the sub
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atomic features.
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because cimatics, if people are not familiar, the simplest explanation
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of cimatics is you just take a metal plate and
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you put sand on it and then you just hit
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it with or vibrate the plate at different frequencies and
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different shapes begin to form. So the question here is
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is this connected to this idea of the ether, Like
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why are those shapes forming from certain frequencies? Is it
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because we're in a medium and you're seeing this vibration
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and can you then map that that's what they are
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doing with Bose Einstein content states. That's actually what Bose
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Einstein content states are. Now we think of them at
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this thing at very low temperature, but it really when
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you boil it down to what is actually means this
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coherent shape that's being created by a frequency, and so
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how is that being created?
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Go ahead and like the simatics on the plate you
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were talking about, that's a two dimensional represent When you
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see three dimensional bubble simatics, good board, I think that
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is what is that Bose Einstein condensates. They think that
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they're bubble simatic or maybe something got to getting close.
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I mean, I think we're blurring the line at this
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point in terms of what, yeah, is it The same
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physics at play in the bubble simatics is what we
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see in the Bose ein Sein condensates, I think so,
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and the idea there is that we're creating these coherent
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stabilized shapes and the other thing that then ether then
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opens up the idea to is like just stabilize structures
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in general, and geometry stabilize geometric structures. So a good
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example of one would be like a smoke ring, you know, smokering,
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Like when you blow smokering, it's crazy how stable it is,
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like that thing can blow and blow and blow.
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And the reason why it's stables because it's a toroid.
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It's a toroidal shape, so you'll have the toroidal field
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and then you'll have the paloidal field going around the
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toroidal field as well, so you'll see the smoke kind
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of going around the ring as well as it blows.
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This also holds true for plasma as well. So the
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question then is can can we manufacture reality through these
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concepts or you know, going back to the disclosure question,
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can aliens do it? You know, can we make a
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Star Trek replicator out of this? When you start to
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be able to say, Okay, I'm gonna stimulate the ether
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with some you know, uh frequency, and then I'm going
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to cause an effect to happen the coherent shape to happen. Now,
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it's just like Okay, I'm just gonna tune it to
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whatever I want to occur, right.
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And it and it would be about the impulse of
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it too, so about the frequency and how fast you're
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introducing the frequency into the systems like bla bah blah
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blah blah by at a certain frequency and then you
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like slow it down, maybe you won't hit it, but
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then you like so like there's these what impulse are
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you delivering and what frequencies are being delivered, and then
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you'll be able to produce hydrogen with that that impulse frequency.
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And then if you do that and add other impulse
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frequencies to produce heat or or magnetic confinement, you might
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be able to produce fusion.
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So the hydrogen thing is really interesting because I keep
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thinking of this one experiment, the dynamic Casmir effect, where
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real photons are just being pulled out of the virtual photons.
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Because when I think about that from the perspective of
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you know, the ether is your point and going, wait,
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we're just pulling light out of the vacuum out of nothing, right, Well,
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how is that happening at all? And if we can
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pull light out of the vacuum, then well e equals
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mc squared, So light is you know, energy is matter.
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So and the.
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Most simple ad in the most simple element is hydrogen.
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So can we just literally produce hydrogen out of nowhere?
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I think the answer is yes. I think we actually
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can produce hydrogen out of nowhere and then transmute elements
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as well. The fusion aspect of it, I think is
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a little bit more complicated. I've been doing a pretty
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deep dive into fusion, and I don't think the secret
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is just like understanding gravity or what have you. It's
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a little bit more complicated than that. I think the
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real secret of fusion is actually.
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Non ignition fuel.
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Like in our heads we think of it as like
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we need to make a star, and we need it
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to be this star that's roiling with heat coming out
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of it. But if you incorporate the ideas of like
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Nikola Tesla and like electric circuits that are super efficient,
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then you can actually make an electric circuit, electric generator
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using fusion that doesn't require ignition that can produce over unity.
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So the idea of being we can get small scale
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fusion reactions like temporary ones like pulse ones like you're
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talking about, and get fusion reactions to occur, but we're
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not going to get this permanent sun that's there, and
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the output of that can be higher than the total
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energy input, which is really what we're trying to achieve,
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which is just infinite free energy.
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Right. Yeah, in order to build these little suns. I
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was thinking, I know, I think I know how to
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do it. There's this guy, John Kansas. He was a
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chemist in Ohio. He passed away in like two thousand
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and He was looking for a cure for cancer, and
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he was running frequency through salt water in his laboratory,
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different frequencies. I don't know if you've you've seen this.
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There's video of this guy doing this. He finds the frequency.
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I don't have it written down. He runs a certain
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frequency through saltwater. It lights off fire like a hydrogen flame,
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sixteen hundred degree hydrogen flame off the surface of the
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salt water. There's a gap between the saltwater and the flame,
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just like the sun, between the surface of the sun
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and the corona. There's that gap, and I'm like, okay,
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that's an electromagnetic flame being produced. So if that saltwater
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was in orbit, it would coagulate into a sphere. Naturally,
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we run the frequency through it, you get a light bulb,
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a star, and so you figure out if you can
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collect that heat somehow and use that heat to produce
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the electricity to continue the frequency, you'll have an ever
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producing star basically. But I wonder if that would produce
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like a z pinch phenomenon, if it would cause some
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sort of electric discharge into our own sun, into the
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Earth's magnetic field. Like it could be a real dangerous experiment,
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but it would be. It would be an immense amount
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of heat, and you just have to fuel it with saltwater.
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You just have to keep pumping saltwater in. Yeah.
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And that's the thing is that once we realize that
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we can use like water as a fuel source, I
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think I think it was redheaded. Libertarian was posted about
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Stanley Meyer the other day, and you know, I thought
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at once upon time that the whole water power car
512
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thing was nonsense. But then I realized I watched this
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video about if you take water and put it in
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like a cup or a bucket, and then take a
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tube and go up like a couple hundred feet and
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just an altitude, like you know, up some stairs or whatever,
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and you have your water tube and you suck the
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water all the way up through the tube. You get
519
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to a point eventually where above a certain level the
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water boils.
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Room temperature just boils.
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So like the water will go up to this level,
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everything above it just turns into gas automatically because why
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the pressure.
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There's not enough pressure.
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So without enough pressure, the water can't stay together and
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the water just falls apart. And so this would be
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how are people able to make.
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A water power car?
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Well, that's how you basically cause the hydrogen and the
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oxygen you just fall apart. And now you can use
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either as the fuel source. You know, you can pump
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the oxygen I think it is to your engine. If
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you want to make it more efficient, you can potentially
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use the hydrogen directly as fuel source as well. So
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we have fuel all around us. If we understand nuclear
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physics and nuclear science, and if we can manipulate gravity,
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if you can manipulate gravity itself, in my mind, you
539
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should be able to cause that net pressure, that lack
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of pressure. You should be able to cause that to occur.
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And then the question is, okay, well, how do I
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how do you make a system. It's actually pretty simple.
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You just have your area where you have the water
544
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comes apart, and then you send it to a different area.
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You either send the hydrogen or the oxygen where you
546
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want to go to produce energy, or if you want
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it to recombine, you just send it to a different
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area where now that's gonna it wants to come back together.
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It's just gonna recombine there, and then you can use
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the excess energy or the energy that's produced from fusion.
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So I think the idea of the water power car
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is definitely within reason. And I think that some of
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these like low energy nuclear fusion reactors, they're trying to
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do what you just mentioned, which is like you know,
555
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burn salt water, or in some cases they're using the air.
556
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Air is fuel as well, because air's got potentially enough
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elements in it, they don't need a lot of molecules
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in order to make you know, fusion reactions occur.
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Oh man, you're as you were saying about the like
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making water reducing the density so it becomes gaseous. I realized, Okay,
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so if I took my saltwater out into orbit to
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light it up like a light bulb, it would turn
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into gas. So we maybe we need to take ice.
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We need to take ice into orbit and just electrocute
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ice or run a current through ice to give off maybe,
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and then it would melt and create like a self.
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Like the sun. The sun doesn't just evaporate, it's keeping
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itself in positions. So at some point I feel like
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the heat would would like be make a self containing
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I don't know.
571
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So let's talk about fusion, because this was the thing that, Man,
572
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what a eye opener for me. I was really all
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of like, why have we been failing at fusion for
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seventy years? You know, like we've been supposedly we've had
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the age bomb since the sixties, but I don't think
576
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there's ever been an official use of the age bomb.
577
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He really knows what a fusion bomb is.
578
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We just assume it's this big, big boom, right, We
579
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just assume that it is. So when I started researching
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fusion trying to figure out, like, okay, why we failed,
581
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why does it suck? The first thing I found is
582
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that the hot fusion people have really a one track mindset.
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They're trying to get to ignition. They're trying to get
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to a star producing a star that was really hot.
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Now here's the problem is that the energy efficiency of
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any system where we're just getting heat out of it
587
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is really low. Like let's I'm just gonna throw at
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random number. This is just an index number, like thirty
589
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twenty or thirty percent. Let's say if we could produce
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electricity directly from our nuclear reactions, that efficiency can get
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up to like ninety percent, so two three times more
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efficient than those other forms. So in theory, we don't
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even really want this all is excess heat. In a
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perfect world, what we'd like is we'd like our power
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plant to produce electricity directly, not like making steam and
596
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then having steam t spin.
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The turbine or whatever it is.
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So when I was looking at the fusion types, I
599
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found one that I've called the I can't say I
600
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.079
coined it, but I'm calling it cool fusion. So cold
601
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fusion was this idea that you could put like metal
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00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:15.920
rods in water and then all of a sudden, put
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like a current through it. Now it's gonna boil, and
604
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there's gonna be this excess heat in there. And this
605
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was considered like basically like room temperature nuclear reactions hot
606
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fusion is like a tokamac. We're saying, Okay, we're trying
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to get ignition, and once we get ignition, then ignition happens,
608
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and now there's enough energy that we've got this runaway.
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Star that runs itself.
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There's a third option, cool fusion, and this is the
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one I was kind of saying before. So the companies
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are doing cool fusion are Helion Energy, which is funded
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by Mythral Capital, George or pal whatever, Peter Thiel and
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Sam Altman, and another one is try Alpha Energy, and
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both of these have backing by the Department of Event Energy.
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And what they're doing is they're saying, we're not even
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trying to get to ignition at all. They're keeping their
618
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temperatures lower than that. But they're using a different fuel source.
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They're using helium three. So they're doing something where they
620
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call it a neutronic The neutrons are where the heat
621
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comes from, So why is it all this heat coming out, Well,
622
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the neutrons. So they found a form of fusion that
623
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they're doing where they call it a neutronic fusion where
624
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there's only a very very little bit of neutrons coming out.
625
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And so what this means is they can actually capture
626
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:32.720
the energy as electricity directly. The way they explain this
627
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is they say, well, okay, we make this plasmoid and
628
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they literally creating a plasmoid like a plasma smoke ring.
629
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And they create this plasmoid and its magnetic field strength
630
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is so strong that while it's trying to spread out
631
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and come apart, the magnetic field strength keeps it together
632
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.400
and the magnetic field strength pulling it together walls trying
633
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:53.640
to expand like this is where they pull the kinetic
634
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:55.480
energy out of the just and turn it.
635
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Into like an engine like this. At least that's how
636
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it's described.
637
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You know what I think, But I think that is
638
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.759
is friction. That's that that excess heat that's in that
639
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.079
system or something like friction. I asked chat GPC to
640
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:09.680
help me calculate this because what's happening. There's this ideal
641
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:11.759
gas lots that the pressure of a system is equal
642
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:13.880
to the volume multiplied by the temperature. I think that's
643
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.119
what it is. So there's an inverse relationship in the pressure,
644
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.839
volume and temperature of a system. If you increase the pressure,
645
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:20.920
the system's either going to expand in volume or it's
646
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.640
gonna get hotter, and that's basically the thing. But the
647
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:26.880
ideal gas law is written for tubes to go longer
648
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:28.759
and shorter to get water out of wells. It was
649
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:31.359
written in the eighteen hundreds. So fusion, I think, is
650
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:35.319
this gas, this this plasma, you know, the fluid, and
651
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:38.880
but it's expanding, but it's expanding spherically, and when it happens,
652
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:44.319
it's expanding so fast that it the expansion itself produces friction,
653
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and that friction is brought from without the system. It's
654
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outside of the system, comes into the fusive system. The
655
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friction then makes it get hotter faster, which makes it
656
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:54.799
expand even faster, which adds more friction, which makes it
657
00:29:54.839 --> 00:30:00.240
hotter faster. So you get this runaway expansion. It may
658
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.480
not be as simple as just saying it's friction, but
659
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I think that that might be the phenomenon of like
660
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I mean, yeah.
661
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I think that's the idea, right, is that you're taking
662
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:08.839
this kinetic energy and you're able to then convert this
663
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.279
to electric energy. The way they describe it, like the
664
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CEO of helium fusion would describe it, says, it's high
665
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beta values is high magnetic field compression. I think it
666
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says like a bat a biotic. I forget, how do
667
00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:24.920
you say compression? And I guess this is the part
668
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:27.039
where people like struggle with this concept because it's so
669
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different than what we've been led to believe from the
670
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public perspective of like, oh, we're.
671
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Trying to make this star right.
672
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And the benefit of his approach is they use a
673
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pulse approach as well, so they minimize the total input energy.
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So instead of like trying to like focus this huge
675
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.519
amount of energy to make ignition happen, they're like, no,
676
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:47.799
we're just gonna hit it with this small pulse, and
677
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:49.920
then we're going to try to recuperate as much of
678
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the energy pulse as we can as well, just like
679
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with like with an electric car, with like how the
680
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:58.319
breaking in the electric car like recuperates the energy, same.
681
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Kind of concept.
682
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And so I just even if I didn't believe that
683
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they were on the right track, I would still be
684
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:06.640
like supportive of what they're doing because they're thinking outside
685
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:08.759
the box about the problem. They're going, Hey, it's not
686
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:10.559
really just a matter of trying to get to ignition.
687
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.759
What if we make our system super efficient, because once
688
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we get to a point where we're getting more energy
689
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:17.839
out of this fusion system, then we're getting it that
690
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.119
we're putting into it. Then we just have to scale
691
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:22.400
it up right, because then you just have you have
692
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:24.519
infinite energy. Once you get to over unity, you're good.
693
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It doesn't matter if you have ignition or not.
694
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:31.000
Right, Yeah, when you're talking about getting a system started
695
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.640
with like just impulses, I think of that when I'm
696
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.880
lighting my incense with a lighter. You can click the
697
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.720
lighter and have the flame there and just hold the
698
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.680
stick and just run all that fire and you're gonna
699
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.960
get that stick lit eventually. Or you can burst it
700
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:47.400
and just tap it with flame and it'll get really
701
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:49.559
really hot, really fascinating. Let go, and you can use
702
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:51.039
like a third or a fifth of the of the
703
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:55.319
fuel to get it lit. It's just about efficiency of fuel,
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00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.480
efficiency of input heat. You don't need to lather your
705
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.519
system excessive amounts of heat to get it hot. You
706
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:03.119
can pulse it.
707
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:05.960
And that's what Tim Poole was saying. Actually, he said
708
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:08.880
I'll probably never forget that. He said, free energy is
709
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.720
about efficiency, right. If we could get energy, if we
710
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:16.000
could have energy that's even just ten times less or
711
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.440
more efficient, less expensive than what.
712
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:21.920
We have right now. It would change everything to everything
713
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:23.720
about the world. That's what free energy is really about.
714
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:25.720
Everybody thinks of it as like free energy is like
715
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:27.839
energy is going to cause zero but it's not even
716
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.920
about that. And it's also not about producing something that
717
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:35.240
you know, produces energy from nothing at all. It's about efficiency.
718
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It's about getting a system, designing any system, you know,
719
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:40.559
the square system, that you're getting more out of it
720
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:42.640
than what you're putting into it if you've done that,
721
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and like.
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Can people even get access to it? You know, that's
723
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another aspect of is that energy free? Because if someone
724
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:50.759
in a laboratory has unlimited electricity but no one else
725
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:52.720
can use it, it's not really free energy. You know,
726
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.720
freedom really means like can people use it? Is it
727
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.200
accessible to people? Is it efficient in that it is
728
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.319
easily utilized by the pop less?
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And that's what I wanted to ask you next, which
730
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is do you think they'll ever let us have this?
731
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Because you know, just long story short, I dug into it,
732
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:11.319
they're definitely hiding fusion. Like and it's kind of silly
733
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:13.359
when you think about it, because you go, we've had
734
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the fusion bomb since the sixties, but we can't figure
735
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:17.240
fusion out.
736
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.000
Like what am I missing here? The sixties was like
737
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a long time ago. So they figured the fusion bomb out,
738
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.079
but they just couldn't figure out how to get energy
739
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from it like this is.
740
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So the question is are they going to give it
741
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to us? And why or why not?
742
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:33.559
This is I think every time we hang out this
743
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:36.319
we talk about this, and we like keep asking each
744
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.200
other this question because it's like I think I want
745
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:39.839
you to be like, oh, yeah, everyone's gonna be I
746
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:42.599
don't know, it's dangerous obviously. This is like where I
747
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.400
come through is like how explosive is the potential force?
748
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.799
Like what if some idiot monkey drops it on the ground,
749
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:49.640
are we all gonna die? Because if that's the case,
750
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:51.839
you can't give it to every idiot monkey. No offense
751
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:53.839
to the monkeys out there. The hominid species is a
752
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:59.160
descend it from apes according to genealogy records, and people
753
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:01.680
are a make accent and they sometimes fall down or
754
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:03.599
mess up or get angry and do stupid shit. So
755
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I'm I'm not totally against like not giving every piece
756
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:11.719
of information to everyone. I'm okay with with that. I
757
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.800
don't know, if fusion is necessarily the answer to thriving
758
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:17.840
is a species. But I do believe energy efficiency is
759
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:20.280
I'm more interested in hydrogen, which I I'd like to
760
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.639
talk about too. But where's your mind do you think?
761
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:26.400
Then? Where's the line? Right? Like, where's the line between
762
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:31.199
national security then and like the public good? Right?
763
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:35.119
I mean, if you can make the justification that well, sorry,
764
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.840
guys can't have fusion because you can make bombs that
765
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.119
can annihilate the planet. And I think you could, in fact,
766
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:42.360
I think that's probably what's gonna happen. That's just my
767
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:44.800
personal opinion. But you know, where do you draw the
768
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:46.679
line then in a scenario like that? And I think
769
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:51.519
that does or maybe I actually does that explain the
770
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.360
certain the whole situation that we have with the UFO.
771
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:58.519
Phenomenon right now? Like why is this whole thing such
772
00:34:58.559 --> 00:34:59.360
a huge mess?
773
00:34:59.559 --> 00:34:59.679
Is it?
774
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:01.880
Because because whatever it is that they're hiding is so
775
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:05.559
dangerous that like there's a serious moral question over whether
776
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:06.880
or not it can be allowed to be given to
777
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:07.320
the public.
778
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:11.360
That maybe like if they have fusion generators on those things,
779
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:13.119
I don't think they do, because if one of them
780
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.440
gets knocked down, that would be like the cat is
781
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:17.360
out of the bag. It's such a risk to put
782
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:20.199
one on board. But if they're not on board, how
783
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.239
would they be powering it like by laser from a
784
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.400
base station and moving it around like a magnet or
785
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:26.239
something could be?
786
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:26.960
Could be?
787
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.400
I mean that is Bob Greenier literally thinks that, Yeah,
788
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like with the ORBS and that ma A Street seven
789
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:31.440
zero video.
790
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:32.639
He thinks they're using like.
791
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:36.800
Satellites and shooting lasers to create like interferometry to shoot
792
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.480
them around. Now, I think they are on board, And
793
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:41.239
in fact, I would say I think some of that
794
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:43.880
that has happened before. I don't think like they've shot
795
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.039
down like a plasma ball and then they were like,
796
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:47.519
oh we got this plasma ball.
797
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.800
But like there's a drone called the RQ one seven zero.
798
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:53.119
I don't know if you've ever heard of that, but
799
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:58.159
during the twenty eleven under Obama, Iran hacked this drone
800
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.719
and they they claim they hacked it. The Obama administration
801
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:03.840
denied it, and then they like posted pictures of it
802
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:05.400
and you're like, oh, well, that is definitely the RQ
803
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:07.840
one seven zero drone, And then they made their own
804
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.000
version of it, and I kind of wonder looking at it.
805
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.800
I was reading through the other day, like everything about
806
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.880
it's classified, so we don't even really know exactly what
807
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.320
propulsion like they had. They suspect there's a certain kind
808
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.760
of engine they were using. But what I found is
809
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.880
that these fusion engines they kind of use a Z
810
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:25.679
pinch type mechanism. They call it dense plasma focus, but
811
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:28.159
it's like a Z pinch mechanism. All they've done is
812
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.239
they turn that the turbine the engine. They just remove
813
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.199
the turbine from the engine and they turn this into
814
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:35.480
like a tube that's a heat exchange. So you put
815
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.800
these magnets along the edges of it. They're like opposite polarity,
816
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.159
and then this could just cause like any electron that
817
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:42.719
goes through it, or plasma that goes through it like
818
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.280
slows down, and I think they use like a helical motion,
819
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.639
so it creates the plasmoid in the middle of it,
820
00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:50.400
and then the plasmoid creates the jets that come out
821
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:51.559
of it, just like if you were looking at a
822
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:54.360
neutron star and they just angle it. So those jets
823
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.760
are the propulsion, Like that's how you fly around. So
824
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:59.000
if you shot that down like you could figure out
825
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:01.599
the science behind it, But I don't know if you're
826
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:04.039
going to figure out like fusion immediately. You know, it's
827
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:05.159
a slightly different concept.
828
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.559
It sounds like rifling, like the way that they built
829
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:13.199
they carve the spherical or the spiral into the engine
830
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:19.199
to create either accuracy essentially plasmoidal accuracy trajection and very
831
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:20.320
similar to how they built rifles.
832
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.719
Did Yeah, did you know that when they uh some
833
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:26.840
of the plasma fusion nuclear fusion scientists like there's a
834
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:28.960
couple of shapes that keep coming up, toroids or one
835
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.719
of them, but helical motion is another one that comes
836
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:34.639
up all the time as well, like this vortex motion.
837
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:36.320
So it wouldn't surprise me at all if there is
838
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.760
literally a connection with like you know, guns and the
839
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:41.480
and the helix motion of like the bullets and things
840
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:42.119
like that as well.
841
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:46.079
You nort now is the hydrogen revolution that it sounds
842
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:48.159
like is like right around the corner. For the last
843
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:51.000
fifty years out of Rice University, they're doing this graphene study.
844
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:53.159
I talked with Jim Tour who's like one of the
845
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.519
head scientists down there working on it, and they figured
846
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:58.519
out this process called flash jewel heating where they'll take
847
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.599
the electrocute carbon, any kind of carbon, trash, plastic, dirt, whatever.
848
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:04.480
They put it in a vacuum and they electrocute it
849
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:08.000
with seven thousand degree pulses of electricity and it breaks
850
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:10.440
it apart, and then it cools down and reforms into
851
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:12.679
its most stable form, which is the hexagon, which is
852
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.719
the graphene start structure. And so you get this powder,
853
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:20.119
black powder, graphene, bulk graphene, and it gives off hydrogen byproduct.
854
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:23.199
And so for every kilogram of hydrogen that's released, you
855
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:25.800
get about four dollars and fifty cents worth of graphene.
856
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:29.519
So they've inverted the cost. It used to cost money
857
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:34.159
to produce hydrogen. Now you receive, well, you receive product
858
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.199
to produce the hydrogen. So after the cost of electricity induction,
859
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:39.599
you get four dollars and fifty cents in return for
860
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:43.639
every kilogram of fuel hydrogen fuel you've produced. And he's saying,
861
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:46.079
our methane system across the United States is ready to
862
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:49.960
introduce the hydrogen for cars for fuel, So if we
863
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.760
want to start fueling our car. It sounds like they
864
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:56.280
have contracts with the Department of Defense. He said that
865
00:38:56.440 --> 00:39:00.840
we're on the cusp of a hydrogen revolution. Fuel wise,
866
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:04.360
I could see like a hybrid petroleum hydrogen cars where
867
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:05.360
you can pump one or the other.
868
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.360
I don't know, I think that they well, I mean,
869
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:11.360
my sources have told me that there's companies that were
870
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:15.280
already in the hydrogen game producing hydrogen. I didn't hear
871
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.719
exactly how they were doing it. But once you open
872
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:21.400
the door to solve the infusion, like and just what
873
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.679
we've already spoken to, like cimatics understanding the ether. If
874
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:28.239
you can create coherent shapes, now you can do alchemy.
875
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:30.800
Now you can produce any element that you potentially want,
876
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.239
and you can potentially do it at very low energy costs.
877
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:37.119
Yeah go, yeah.
878
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:38.920
So the last time I was to say is that
879
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:41.440
part of low energy nuclear reactions. I did this interview
880
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:45.480
with eng eight low energy fusion company, and one of
881
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.639
the claims they made was that they could potentially produce
882
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:51.760
hydrogen at a much lower energy cost than what the
883
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:53.480
conventional approach would be to it.
884
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:53.719
Too.
885
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:55.559
So you kind of have to keep your eyes open
886
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:57.960
on some of these companies, Like you know, if you
887
00:39:58.039 --> 00:39:59.599
were to look at it, they may just look like
888
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:02.400
completely conventional company, but they might then be doing using
889
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:06.440
some of these electromagnetic physics type concepts to really be
890
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:08.960
making more money than what you would be possible otherwise.
891
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:11.320
When I think about fusion, I think of the big
892
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:14.119
ask that it's like, all right, this is okay. I'm
893
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.000
from nineteen seventy nine. I'm cynical. That's just the way
894
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:19.239
it was. Growing up in Ohio in the eighties. Our
895
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.519
team Cleveland Brown's always lost was all we were always
896
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:24.880
it never worked out. I had to chag break out
897
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:27.360
of that mindset. But I'm like, that's what feels like
898
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:29.440
with fusion. It's like we're never going to get I
899
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:30.599
don't want to say it. I don't even want to
900
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.320
joke about it because I don't want to manifest it's happening. Obviously,
901
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:36.480
we're getting fusion. People are fusing things. But do you
902
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.360
think it's actually reasonably going to be like a power
903
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:41.480
source in the next thirty years for the common man?
904
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.559
Yeah, I mean it exists, I'll tell you that much.
905
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:47.679
Are they going to give it to us? That's the
906
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.039
bigger question. And I think that they are away in
907
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.360
exactly what you just said, which is their way in
908
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.880
the question of what's the risk of somebody using this
909
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:57.840
and creating a weapon that wipes us all out, and
910
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.159
can we stop it if they do? And do we
911
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:03.360
have the deterrence in place to do it? But absolutely
912
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:05.119
I think not only are we gonna get fusion, I
913
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:06.719
think it's gonna get a lot weirder than that, is
914
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:08.400
that one of the first things that is probably gonna
915
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:09.920
happen is we're gonna have to start coming up with
916
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:12.760
new new names for some of these energy sources. Maybe
917
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:14.840
the hydrogen Revolution sounds like a good way. Maybe we
918
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:16.880
just call it that, honestly, because I think it's gonna
919
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:20.800
be more all encompassing. We're gonna see like fusion companies
920
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:24.239
like Helium that aren't even doing ignition, that are producing
921
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:26.519
excess energy, and people are gonna be seeing they're wondering
922
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.599
how I mean. I was watching a debunker person who's
923
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:32.960
like a nuclear physicists themselves, and they were like listening
924
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:34.960
to the CEO of Heli and Fusion. They're wondering how
925
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.519
all these claims can be possible when these people are
926
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:38.239
struggling to make.
927
00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:39.360
A tokamac reactor, you know.
928
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:42.159
But then you're also gonna see stuff like free energy
929
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:46.000
microchips at the same time, like our low power devices
930
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:48.880
everything up to like a cell phone. In the next
931
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:51.280
five or ten years, like they're gonna be rolling out
932
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:53.559
free energy microschips, Like these devices just aren't gonna be
933
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:55.840
running out of energy anymore. And people are gonna be like,
934
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:57.960
how is that possible? And they're gonna come up with them.
935
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.440
They're gonna call it like like I've been joking, they're
936
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:02.199
gonna call like space juice. They're gonna come up with
937
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:03.920
some stupid, like made up name they're gonna call.
938
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:06.599
It's just harnessing space juice. Don't ask questions, right like,
939
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:08.159
and yeah, okay.
940
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:11.599
It'll be like juice tapping into the piezo electric vibration
941
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:13.440
of the ether or something.
942
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:16.280
It's gonna sound something like really technical, you know, and
943
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:17.960
then that's what they'll say, and then everyone'll just be like,
944
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:20.400
I don't question why my phone never has to run
945
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:21.760
out of energy anymore, you know.
946
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.920
You know, sub atomic piazo electrics is a fascinating concept.
947
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:26.960
I mean, just piezo electric in general that you can
948
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.920
use like tensive vibration to get an electrical charge. And
949
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:32.639
then if you can scale that down at the to
950
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:35.880
the micro chip level, the chips themselves power just just
951
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:40.599
by atmospheric you know, indenture create their own conductivity.
952
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:44.159
There's probably like at least three different ways to do
953
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:46.719
free energy from the micro scale that I found. One
954
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.000
is using the Casimir effect, which Sunny White has been doing,
955
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:52.199
and I think Garrett Model at the University of Colorado
956
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:55.760
Paul Thibodeau is using like a thermal effect, like the
957
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:59.519
thermal changes is vibrations, and even it can be in
958
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:03.519
a stationary temperature, but just the thermal just vibrations. Brownie
959
00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:06.519
in motion he made a microchip that basically just harnesses
960
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:10.039
that as well. So in addition to what you just mentioned,
961
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:12.480
so there could be a multiple different ways, like the
962
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:16.800
Pizo electric thing. People, anytime you have like a PhD
963
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:18.880
physicist come on, especially if you're talking to them like
964
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:20.719
on Tame Pool on a big show, you should always
965
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.559
ask them what is electricity?
966
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:23.800
Where does electricity come from?
967
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:27.840
Because Pieso Electricity explains it, like for people who are
968
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.199
not familiar. Pies electricity is like a quartz crystal. You
969
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.800
can squeeze the crystal and it'll produce electricity. They use
970
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:37.519
these in watches low energy devices, right, because you can
971
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:40.480
just shake your watch and now you get electricity. The
972
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:42.960
reason why that happens is when you squeeze the crystal,
973
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.559
the positive and the minus charges in the lattice structure
974
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:49.880
of the crystal separate. Normally, they're in an equilibrium the
975
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:51.960
positive minuses. Imagine them being next to each other.
976
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:54.320
When you squeeze the crystal, it pushes them apart a
977
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:54.800
little bit.
978
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:58.280
So what is electricity? Well, electricity is just the positive
979
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.519
and minus charges being separated, just like with the pies
980
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:03.480
of electricity. So anybody that understands electricity should be able
981
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:05.480
to tell you at the basic level, all electricity is
982
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.679
is positive and minus charge separated.
983
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:08.159
Is it?
984
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:09.119
And we can go ahead?
985
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:11.679
Is it? Because when you separate the positive and minus charge,
986
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:14.519
the elect they want to come back together, so it
987
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:16.519
produces an electrical current between them.
988
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:19.760
Bingo, you nailed it, right, So now you can see like, oh,
989
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:21.679
if I just look at it like that, then it's
990
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.880
a completely different view of what electricity even is. Electricity
991
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:27.400
is like a breaking of a symmetry, right, It's like, oh,
992
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.239
we're stuck in this symmetry. Oh if I just rip
993
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:33.559
these things apart, oh, now electricity exists, like oh, and
994
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.559
we should be getting taught electricity like that. That's a
995
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.840
much more logical, intuitive way than like, oh, the power
996
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:43.079
plant is like producing this electricity and then shooting it
997
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.440
through the wires and then it's like coming into my
998
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:47.559
house at the speed of light, which is not how
999
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:48.239
it actually works.
1000
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:49.679
It just seems like how it works.
1001
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.440
Dude. I want to capture lightning. I think that we've
1002
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.199
been staring at it the whole time. If we can
1003
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.519
produce tethers that can like graphine tethers or some sort
1004
00:44:57.519 --> 00:44:59.800
of meta material that can absorb that can conduct the
1005
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:03.199
eat into a bay station and then absorb it down
1006
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.119
at the station, Like you could have these like feathery
1007
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:08.519
tethers up in the atmosphere constantly pulling the static charge,
1008
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:10.920
so you'll never actually have lightning strikes anymore, Like you'll
1009
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:14.840
prevent them and you'll just be absorbing the current. And
1010
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:17.239
then it's just about having a battery that can capacitate it.
1011
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:19.719
I think it's even easier than that. It's like, where's
1012
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:22.360
the electricity from the lightning strikes? Even coming from a
1013
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:23.119
deep space.
1014
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:25.360
If you see those above, if you ever watch above
1015
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:28.599
the clouds, those those those sprites they call them, that
1016
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:31.400
go just God knows where out into the next the
1017
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.519
next realm of galaxy or whatever.
1018
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:37.679
And I'm not like, I like the electric universe theory.
1019
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:38.719
I think there's some problems with it.
1020
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:40.199
But that was one of the fun things that I
1021
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:42.719
learned from is that I like to hearing other people's
1022
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:44.239
point of views, because then you hear like, are the
1023
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.079
what are the electric universe? People say about like the
1024
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:49.079
standard model and their view, And one of the biggin
1025
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:51.159
ones that go is like, where's all this energy for
1026
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:52.440
all these lightning strikes coming from?
1027
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:54.639
Like where else on this planet equilibrium?
1028
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.039
Well, those are a huge amount of energy coming from
1029
00:45:57.079 --> 00:45:59.840
and so of course they claim it's coming from the
1030
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.280
lactric currents that are connecting the Earth and the Sun
1031
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.519
and all the other planets and the solarcism, which I
1032
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:06.679
think actually makes a lot of sense. But then the
1033
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.000
point is whatever electricity is, whatever is causing those lightning
1034
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:11.719
strikes that happen, we should be able to tap into that,
1035
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:12.440
We should be able.
1036
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:12.800
To harness that.
1037
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:17.039
I mean, my view is that if energy is mass
1038
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:20.639
and we can do stuff like the dynamic Kasmir effect
1039
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:23.119
and just pull light out of the vacuum, then that
1040
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.880
means energy is everywhere. That means we don't even need
1041
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:28.239
the sun, and we don't even need to make a sun.
1042
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:31.039
We can just pull energy theoretically just straight out of
1043
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:31.679
the vacuum.
1044
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:35.800
So you're talking dynamic Kasmir effect you're talking about. Is
1045
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.079
it light appearing out of the vacuum? Is that what
1046
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:41.039
that is? So that it's sort of like sono luminescence,
1047
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:44.400
where if you create a bubble underwater with a certain vibration,
1048
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.559
you'll create light. And I think maybe what's happening is
1049
00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:50.519
that the Higgs field. There's a vibration in the Higgs field,
1050
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:52.920
and that if it hits a certain frequency, it cracks
1051
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:57.639
and produces photons, and then those they basically it's like
1052
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.199
the photon is coming through the Higgs field. This is
1053
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:02.320
an old idea I had fifteen years ago. I don't
1054
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:04.079
know if it's actually real or not. And then that
1055
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.280
cools down that photose hotons can cool down into matter.
1056
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.760
But I don't that was just a rough kind of
1057
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:11.519
a sure if I.
1058
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.239
Mean the Higgs field is it is really like zero
1059
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.280
point energy, but like with tricycle wheels attached to it,
1060
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:18.239
you know, it's like they're like.
1061
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:21.199
The Higgs field explains like one percent of mass. You're like,
1062
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.519
but that doesn't really explain like anything then does it?
1063
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:26.320
But it is the idea that, yeah, there are these
1064
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:30.000
fields that we are living, this structured, this construct, you know,
1065
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:32.079
and so that would be open the door to zero
1066
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:34.920
point energy and open the door to this you know,
1067
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:38.480
space time, flexible solid that can be manipulated.
1068
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:44.039
But if if like you're saying, electricity is produced when
1069
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:47.280
you pull apart a positive and a negative node and
1070
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.400
you and it's trying to find itself, trying to pull
1071
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.920
come back together so it has its current point, then
1072
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:55.079
then a lightning maybe is that? And so the Earth's
1073
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:58.039
core would be like the positive or the negative charge,
1074
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.599
but it's both. I think it's both positive negative. It's
1075
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:03.599
an interesting there's but so what's the capacitor? Right?
1076
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:06.000
And remember when doctor U was saying, when we were
1077
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:09.679
explaining why is gravity and electricity so like, why are
1078
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:13.159
they the strength so different? And doctor U took his magnets.
1079
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:14.760
He took a string of magnets and the string of
1080
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.360
magnets can pick up the balls, right, But once you start.
1081
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:20.360
Folding the magnets over, you're equalizing the charges.
1082
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:22.280
And what's happening now is that now all of a sudden,
1083
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:24.360
the magnet can't pick up any balls anymore because it
1084
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:25.320
got so much weaker.
1085
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:29.599
So the earth is also a magnet. And so why
1086
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:29.880
are we.
1087
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:32.440
Seeing the electricity, you know, strike down from the sky
1088
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:34.840
to the earth. Is that you're seeing this this vult,
1089
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.719
this potential difference. And as that potential difference builds up,
1090
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:41.239
eventually it gets so strong that zapp you know, theus,
1091
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:43.440
the minus and the positive decide that it can break
1092
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.960
through the insulator. What's the insulator? The insulator is the air.
1093
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:49.280
The air is the insulator. In this case, air is
1094
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:51.639
actually an insulator. We have to remember that even the
1095
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:52.599
air is a medium.
1096
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:54.760
So that's why we don't.
1097
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:56.800
See electric strikes. Well, that's why we do see the
1098
00:48:56.840 --> 00:49:01.800
electric strikes. And here's another one for you. The lightning
1099
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.199
is a plasma because what is a plasma. All a
1100
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:09.760
plasma is is a positive charge and a negative charge separated,
1101
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:13.360
ripping the electron off the atom leaven behind a positively
1102
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:17.440
charged ion and a negatively charged electron. So when you
1103
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:22.559
separate these out, are we just creating electricity directly when
1104
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:24.920
we do that? And this is why I always thought
1105
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:27.559
like the whole idea of fusion using plasma like it
1106
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:31.679
should be direct energy conversion, because literally electricity is just
1107
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:35.280
a separation of positive and minus charge. Now Here's one
1108
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:37.360
of one of the things I'll thought I'll leave you
1109
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:41.079
with on this is that the electric universe theory. One
1110
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:43.920
of their big questions is why is there a plasma
1111
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:47.559
corona around the sun. Shouldn't plasma if it's positive and
1112
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:50.840
negative charges separated, shouldn't it try to come back together
1113
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.719
and equalize. But if that was the case, then we
1114
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:56.320
shouldn't see this corona around the sun at all. There
1115
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:59.800
shouldn't be in a difference of positive negative charges being
1116
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:02.519
so separated from one another. So clearly I think there
1117
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:03.760
must be something else going on.
1118
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:06.320
I think it's that similar thing with what John Kansas
1119
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:08.400
learned in his experimentations in the lab, is that there's
1120
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:11.239
a frequency running through the sun that's lighting it up.
1121
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:13.800
It's causing it to give off the flame. That's what
1122
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.360
the corona is. It's exactly like his experiment. If you
1123
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:19.519
watch that video John Kansas, it's k n s us
1124
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:21.519
It's like a two thousand and seven video of him
1125
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.239
running a free He tells you what frequency it is
1126
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:27.239
to run it through saltwater get that hydrogen flame, that's
1127
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:27.679
my guess.
1128
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.000
Interesting, So so that.
1129
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:31.400
That would lead to me to believe that that the
1130
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.119
Sun then has the chemicals make up saltwater. Obviously there's
1131
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.119
hydrogen in there, there's sodium in there, there's a lot
1132
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:37.079
of chemicals in the sun.
1133
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:41.559
But it Yeah, and the Sun itself, you know, maybe
1134
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:43.920
it just reaches a certain critical mass and then I mean,
1135
00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:46.199
that's I think that the standard theory holds, right, You
1136
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:48.159
just have this huge amount of mass and then you
1137
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:50.679
have this critical event happen, and yes, then we get
1138
00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.800
ignition to occur, and then what's happening inside the sun.
1139
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:56.000
There's actually a lot of theories about that that, you know,
1140
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:59.840
could be something related. Vibration planks constant is like what
1141
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:03.719
we imagine like the smallest possible vibrational.
1142
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:05.800
Scale that's out there. That could be a cut off point.
1143
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.039
That's where they uses the cut off point for calculating
1144
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:10.000
the zero point energy.
1145
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:12.199
Actually, so there could be a connection to that. The
1146
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.000
other idea is that maybe the Sun is.
1147
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.519
Like a lattice structure, like maybe it's more like a
1148
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:20.360
solid like when you get inside of it, maybe everything's
1149
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.159
so compact that it's almost like a crystal structure, and
1150
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:24.639
so then what could be happening would be more like
1151
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:26.880
pies of electricity, or like maybe you have like this
1152
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:30.960
vibrational like lattice structure inside the sun in the middle
1153
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:31.519
of it, which.
1154
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:33.599
I that's a cool idea that would make sense as
1155
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:37.159
to why a frequency would cause some sort of dissertation
1156
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.199
like that. I think that's the right word. I like
1157
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:39.519
the way it.
1158
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:41.880
Sounds because it's a resonance effect, right. It'd be like, oh,
1159
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:43.559
if you hit it with a frequency, then you're going
1160
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:45.679
to see some type of counter resonance effect, just like
1161
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:49.599
the photoelectric effect, which was like when we shot light
1162
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:53.440
at a metal, we did not see a significant difference
1163
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:55.400
when we increased the brightness of the light, but we
1164
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:58.360
saw a difference when we increased the wavelength when we
1165
00:51:58.519 --> 00:51:58.840
changed the.
1166
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:00.920
Color of the light that hits it. So it goes
1167
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.199
to show, Yeah, resonance effects are what really seems to
1168
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:06.559
explain the universe.
1169
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:10.599
I think that comes from how photons interfere with surface plasma.
1170
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:14.239
They seem to refract off of the surface plasma at
1171
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:16.880
the center of every plasma cloud and transfer information, so
1172
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:19.360
that I think that's how light transfers information to plasma
1173
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:23.199
and if you look deeply into surface plasma in the
1174
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:25.079
way that it changes the red and the blue shift
1175
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:27.679
of the plasma fields, but depending on how the light
1176
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:28.800
is interfering with it.
1177
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:35.000
So the plasma front, let's see, is there anything else
1178
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:37.480
I want to touch on on that front? So yeah,
1179
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.000
the other thing I was going to touch on is
1180
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:43.280
the dense Plasma focused paper that I discussed i think
1181
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:46.159
on the podcast that we did together, which was finding
1182
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:48.599
out that they were taking these plasmas and they were
1183
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:51.000
trying to turn them into drones or you know, trying
1184
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.880
to turn it into a propulsion concept very clearly in
1185
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:59.639
the papers. And so plasmoids have another name. They're called
1186
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:03.639
few reverse configuration FRC. This is actually what they're called
1187
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:07.440
by Helia in Fusion as well as TAE. They came
1188
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:09.480
up with a new name for them, which are apparently
1189
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:13.519
just terroidal plasmas that are being shot together at one another.
1190
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:19.440
These frcs, they have a distinct characteristic. They have a
1191
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:23.519
spheremac shape, so they're shaped like a plasma sphere, but
1192
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:26.440
they also have axial jets that shoot out of them
1193
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:28.840
because they're creating that plasmoid in the center. They have
1194
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:29.840
these axial jets.
1195
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:32.239
So at some point the Air Force, and I don't
1196
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:34.159
know who the first person was to think about it,
1197
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:36.440
but I'm pretty sure it's this guy Frank Mead, They
1198
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.599
were like, oh, well, if there's these axial jets, we
1199
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:41.400
can use this as propulsion and then we can have
1200
00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:44.400
now some type of thing that's flying around. I think
1201
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.880
that the thing that really took off was when they
1202
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:49.559
were able to turn into a drone. When you're like, okay, now,
1203
00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:52.039
like having a plasma propulsion is one thing. Great, you
1204
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:54.679
got plasma flying everywhere, but that doesn't sound very safe.
1205
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:56.000
You don't want to be I wouldn't want to be
1206
00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:58.760
near on a plasma a fusion reactor, you know, flying around.
1207
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:01.239
But one once you turn into a drone, now you
1208
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:03.800
have no problem. Now no human needs to be near
1209
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.960
it anymore. So this is where I personally my view,
1210
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.519
I'm curious about your opinion that I think they figured
1211
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:12.480
out these plasma drones and they've been flying them around
1212
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.679
for I don't know, ten twenty years, maybe longer, who knows,
1213
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:18.719
And that's why I don't know how far back it goes,
1214
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:21.840
and people are seeing them in the sky and they're going, Okay,
1215
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:25.000
there's a light in the sky flying around I basically
1216
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:27.360
anybody who sees that's going to think it's an alien, right,
1217
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:31.360
And now they're going, oh, UFO alien. And then this
1218
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:34.679
seems to coincide in the last let's say ten years
1219
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:38.840
with this like emergence of balls of energy balls of
1220
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:41.079
light that everybody's talking about. Even Louel Zando wrote in
1221
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:43.119
his book about three balls of energy and three balls
1222
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.679
of light. So my opinion is that they governments figured
1223
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:47.920
this out. I don't know, Maybe they figured out from aliens.
1224
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:50.559
Maybe they didn't, not sure. What do you think about
1225
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:54.519
the idea that like humans could have figured this technology out?
1226
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:56.320
This is like the biggest point of contention in the
1227
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:59.599
UFO community right now is like could humans have figured
1228
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:01.840
this techniclogy? How could we have reverse engineered it? Or
1229
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.440
does it have to be aliens because you know, we
1230
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:07.039
can't understand this alien physics.
1231
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:11.159
Human all human. If we can figure out electricity, we
1232
00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:15.840
can figure out anything, dude. Any this is warping shit.
1233
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.280
It's I think a lot of it is talking plasma,
1234
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:21.519
which is a term they gave to this idea that
1235
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:25.320
you can triangulate or hit a point in time into
1236
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:28.360
space time time. It's funny. A point in time where
1237
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:30.480
you'll hit it with a bunch of like lasers or
1238
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:32.400
something creates a ball plasma and then you move that
1239
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:35.039
around like a laser pointer and then it flies and
1240
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:37.039
how does it move so fast? And it's like, well,
1241
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:39.000
it's because it's a it's an illusion that we're created.
1242
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.360
It's a ball of plasma. But then now you're talking
1243
00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:44.840
about plasma drones. I don't know. And now I'm just
1244
00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:48.039
thinking of actual autonomous balls of plasma that are using
1245
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:51.159
their own jets to maneuver, that are being maybe given
1246
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:53.440
information from the base station. But how would they be
1247
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:56.760
being produced either an onboard fusion. Then you're talking do
1248
00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:58.960
they have on board power or are they being created
1249
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:00.559
by this talking fusion?
1250
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:04.679
Yeah, I remember, like a year and a half ago,
1251
00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:06.639
I was thinking that they were creating them the same
1252
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:08.360
way that you just mentioned with the talking plasma, which
1253
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:10.800
I read which is honestly amazing. The talking plasma thing
1254
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:12.480
they can do. I mean, the fact they get it
1255
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:15.679
to literally talk to you means they can modulate the
1256
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:17.960
frequency and the and the standing wave of it to
1257
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:21.360
like at will, like constantly it's a very impressive thing
1258
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:23.840
that they can do that. Then in my mind, they
1259
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:26.639
can make their plasma ball like whatever size they want
1260
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:28.800
and need it to be, and it wouldn't take that
1261
00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:30.440
much onboard fuel to make it happen.
1262
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:33.119
I think that though, that what like the plasma.
1263
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:35.239
Drone would look like would probably be like a tube
1264
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:37.239
with a bunch of stuff hooked up to it, and
1265
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.239
then once you like shoot it, and then it just
1266
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:41.519
spins up. And once it spins up, it's just it's
1267
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:43.400
a plasma ball now, and it just looks like a
1268
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:47.639
plasma ball until it's turned off. And but I a
1269
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:50.000
lot of people believe that these orbs can be like
1270
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:53.400
shot out of like a cannon, like you shoot a
1271
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:56.480
plasma can like a plasma sphere out of a cannon,
1272
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:59.000
and now it's just like a self contained structure and
1273
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:02.480
it's self contained until it dissipates, which it's it's stabilized
1274
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:04.320
so it won't dissipate it or it has like a
1275
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.559
very long life span. And then this would be the
1276
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:09.679
idea of like the ether and simatics, where like you've
1277
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:12.880
created this geometric shape where it's like a perfect geometric
1278
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.679
shape that just doesn't lose any energy and is able to.
1279
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:16.360
Keep its form.
1280
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:18.960
I kind of struggle with that because, like especially in
1281
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:20.840
like them a Streets of Zero videos, these things are
1282
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:22.679
clearly moving with some intelligent control.
1283
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:25.039
It's not just oh, shoot it over that way, right,
1284
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:28.159
it's like homing in on things and locking in. But
1285
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:29.079
I don't know, what do you think?
1286
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:33.559
Well, while you were talking about shooting a plasma drone,
1287
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:36.239
as that would be your bullet would be the drone itself.
1288
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:38.679
I'm thinking of like a coil, just like the rifling
1289
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:41.599
we were talking about. Maybe it would be a series
1290
00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:44.639
of rings, but it would give that that forward momentum
1291
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:48.000
of spin that would allow for some sort of energy
1292
00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:51.360
propagation that could maybe blow it up like a plasma
1293
00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:54.760
balloon for the for the you know excerpt for the
1294
00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:57.360
for the journey that it has to go to until
1295
00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:01.079
it either dissipates or hits its target. Maybe maybe the
1296
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:03.239
idea that because I was yeah, the idea that you
1297
00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:05.480
would use that as the bullet itself and not the
1298
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:06.440
gun is pretty cool.
1299
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.239
Yeah, yeah, and that's something I had never really thought of.
1300
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:13.079
But that Okay, you've got these plasma bullets, and now
1301
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:14.719
you might be able to use them for multi things
1302
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:18.760
as well. I mean they probably originated as like you said,
1303
00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:24.920
like spoofing mechanisms, right, because some of these pilots when
1304
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:27.840
they see these UFOs, they don't see them on radar,
1305
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:30.000
but then they'll see them like briefly show up. And
1306
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:31.480
this is I think where some of this idea of
1307
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:35.920
always this spoofy mechanism. Well, the plasma actually will reflect radar,
1308
00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:37.880
but if you were to change the wavelength of the
1309
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:40.440
plasma for a brief second, it may actually be it
1310
00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:42.039
may show up, so it could look like it's like
1311
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:45.400
a ghost out there. But then you can turn it
1312
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:48.480
like plasma itself is a physical phenomenon. It's not just
1313
00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:51.519
an illusion, right, It's not necessarily just a hologram. So
1314
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:53.480
if you can turn it into that, now you've turned
1315
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:58.440
into a weapon. Because once again, what is electricity. Electricity
1316
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:00.679
is just a separation of positive is charged.
1317
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:02.719
So if you can control that, if you can spin
1318
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:04.960
that up into a ball plasma that can shoot around,
1319
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:07.679
now you've got a literally lightning ball like you're zeus
1320
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:10.039
now like shooting lightning nut battle on people.
1321
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:12.199
If it's like if it's just like what we're talking
1322
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:14.360
about electricity, you're pulling apart the positive and the negative,
1323
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:17.440
so gas either you're heating it up it's or you're
1324
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:21.000
destroying the You're removing the pressure, so the gas expands faster.
1325
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:23.639
It'll be easier to get it hotter, it'll be easier
1326
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:26.320
to pull the proton and the electron away from it
1327
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:29.920
because it's less pressure or getting it hotter. So if
1328
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:32.199
you can in it within like the bullet of this
1329
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:35.920
plasma torsion, if you can reduce the pressure or enhance
1330
00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:38.280
the temperature, you might be able to produce an electrical
1331
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:41.280
charge that way.
1332
00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:44.199
And you know what the thing was that took off.
1333
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:46.280
It was the lasers is what allowed this to all
1334
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:46.800
take off.
1335
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:52.159
When you even look at Helium's field re verse configuration reactor,
1336
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:55.679
they shoot these plasmoids at each other's smok rings of
1337
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:59.239
plasma and then they shoot these like neutral laser beam injectors.
1338
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.480
And the thing that allowed this all take off was
1339
01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:03.480
that they got these lasers to be super powerful. This
1340
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:07.239
chirped pulse amplification Nobel Prize twenty seventeen.
1341
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:09.039
That's where they found these.
1342
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:10.800
They were able to come up with these atto second
1343
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:14.639
lasers because the smaller the time frame that you fit
1344
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:17.079
the energy into the more the energy density goes up.
1345
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:20.559
It's not just the region in the space that you
1346
01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:23.559
want small, but the time region. The time of the
1347
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:26.519
laser gets smaller, the pulse gets smaller, the energy density
1348
01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:27.360
goes up, and.
1349
01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:30.280
That's how they're able to get these plasmas to reach
1350
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:33.280
these super high temperatures supposedly. So it wouldn't surprise me
1351
01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:37.440
if like the military had this laser technology that allowed
1352
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:39.400
plasma and all this stuff to happen, and then of
1353
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:42.440
course they just classified it because it's all weapons related
1354
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:43.880
related nukes.
1355
01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:46.400
You know, I would have classified it if I built
1356
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:47.800
it in the if I was working for the government
1357
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:49.360
and built that, I'd be like, all right, well for now,
1358
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:51.320
because they're probably all like airing on the side of caution.
1359
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:55.000
And then if the Chinese are like, we have it,
1360
01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:56.559
then we'll be like, well we have it too. I
1361
01:00:56.639 --> 01:01:00.480
guess you know, nobody wants to say it first, yeah.
1362
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:02.239
We had that, like they're Chinese is gonna be like
1363
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:04.199
we figured out whorp technology trumps something like we figured
1364
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:07.800
it out ten years ago. Sorry, you know, And you know,
1365
01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:12.000
if you were like a black project engineer, you worked
1366
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:15.280
on this, like you know, magic technology alien technology.
1367
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:16.199
Call it whatever you want to call it. Would you
1368
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:17.880
come out as a whistleblower?
1369
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:19.000
You know?
1370
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:20.199
Yeah? Why are we not?
1371
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:23.360
Not? No? Because that that it's it's it's like life,
1372
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:25.679
and it's like the Manhattan Project. I wouldn't have I
1373
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:27.320
wouldn't have blowed the whistle on that either if I
1374
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:29.039
was working for that. I believe in the ethos of
1375
01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:31.800
the United States free speech, gun rights, property rights. I
1376
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:33.440
want to do whatever I can to uphold that. If
1377
01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:35.440
it means giving us the best military on the planet,
1378
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:39.360
giving us an edge, you know, within the AI fusion race,
1379
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:39.800
I'm down.
1380
01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:43.039
Yeah, you know what I mean. I agree the same way.
1381
01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:44.519
That's why it makes this so hard. Is it like
1382
01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:46.960
I don't even like doing this. But at the same time,
1383
01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:50.840
it's like people deserve to know about this science, about
1384
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:51.400
the technology.
1385
01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:53.320
That's why the first question is like where is the
1386
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:56.199
line between this? Because I also want us to have
1387
01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:58.760
this technology. I want America to be the number one country.
1388
01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:01.719
But I also like, in the view of this, you're like, Okay,
1389
01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:06.000
we've got warp drive technology, maybe wormhole technology, gravy manipulation,
1390
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:11.599
free energy technology. You know, I wonder, you know, how
1391
01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:13.519
we have to be able to get some of this
1392
01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:16.239
to the public people, you know, I mean, at some
1393
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:18.719
point you can't hide this forever.
1394
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:23.519
Yeah, relying relying on the government, or just because they're
1395
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:25.440
deep state and have access to the tech when they
1396
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:27.000
were kids and now they get to learn about it
1397
01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:28.719
and their dads have money and now they have money.
1398
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:31.960
Just because they have it doesn't mean that's the best setup.
1399
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:33.840
It might be better for the populace to have it.
1400
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:36.599
So and that's the big catch twenty or that. I
1401
01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:37.920
don't know if it's a catch twenty two, but that's
1402
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:39.679
a big struggle that we're in. Because I agree with you,
1403
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:41.719
I would I would never go whistleblower either. If I
1404
01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:43.760
was in Black Project, I wouldn't even have a social
1405
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:45.880
media account. I wouldn't do any of this stuff at all,
1406
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:49.440
because I do think it harms national security. And I
1407
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:53.360
think that if certain countries, certain cultures have access to
1408
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:56.800
this technology, I think the planet's totally definitely doomed, no question.
1409
01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:00.800
But you know, it's a moral conundrum because we are
1410
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.000
talking about the ability to kind of end poverty. The
1411
01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:07.519
big thing for me is this, if America has this technology,
1412
01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:10.239
why are we not Why we have so many homeless people.
1413
01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:12.440
Why we have so much struggling on this plan. Why
1414
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:15.639
does our country not look like ancient Rome with like
1415
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:21.480
you know, colosseums and you know the Renaissance everywhere. You
1416
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:23.159
know that that to me is the struggle, is that
1417
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:25.039
I think that at a minimum, we should be able
1418
01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:27.519
to leverage the fact that we have magical technology.
1419
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:31.400
You know. I think it's because well, one, they want
1420
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:33.719
to keep it secret. That's the main reason too, is
1421
01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:37.320
because we don't have the batteries yet to capacitate the power,
1422
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:39.840
Like we can't run well, we have Tesla power walls.
1423
01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:43.760
We're getting there, but like really really good batteries that
1424
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:45.679
you can charge once and then they run your house
1425
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:48.519
for sixty days or six hundred years or whatever. You know. Like,
1426
01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:50.800
once we can build the batteries that can super like
1427
01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:54.519
super capacitor batteries you know, graphium, cadmium, whatever the hell
1428
01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:57.000
materials we're going to be using, probably crazy meta material
1429
01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:02.079
cermats and stuff, then I think the fewion will be like, uh,
1430
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:05.719
what's the word functional, like for the common man once
1431
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:07.119
they can store the battery, because then you won't have
1432
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:08.880
to give them the fusion reactor. They'll just be able
1433
01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:12.039
to tap it in, get the power and then benefit.
1434
01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:15.440
See you're thinking about it pragmatically, like they're never gonna
1435
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:17.280
give us a fusion reactor. We're never gonna get a
1436
01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:19.079
portable fusion reactor. Is then you could just turn it
1437
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:21.159
on blow somebody up. But I could see they're gonna
1438
01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:22.880
give you a tap, right, They're gonna say here, you
1439
01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:25.159
can tap into the energy and then you can fill
1440
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:27.519
up your local reserve. But it's not gonna be enough
1441
01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:30.719
to annihilate the planet. You know, something like that where
1442
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:32.480
I think it was how putoff even talking about this,
1443
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:35.719
where it's almost as evil as, maybe even more evil
1444
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:38.679
than how they portrayed in the movies. Where he's like, guys,
1445
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:41.320
zero point energy is real, it's coming out. This is
1446
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:45.199
a high risk venture, but its high reward. And he's like, basically,
1447
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:47.760
everybody knows we can't just give everybody a you know,
1448
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:49.960
a zero point energy device in their home. The way
1449
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:53.239
to do it is like when your old generators have
1450
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:55.400
to be replaced, just throw the old ones out and
1451
01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:59.199
we'll give you new, upgraded reactors and no it we'll
1452
01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:01.400
just never have to explain where that energy is coming from. Right,
1453
01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:03.719
And well, if you save some money on it. Well,
1454
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:05.880
you don't necessarily have to pass that savings on to
1455
01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:08.360
the consumer, right, how does the consumer you even know
1456
01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:11.679
how much you're you know how much it costs you
1457
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:14.239
to produce the energy. That's what I think is really
1458
01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:16.199
going on. And that's why I look at companies like
1459
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:19.199
Heli in Fusion and I'm like, I've identified them as
1460
01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:21.480
like this is a company that the DOE is backing
1461
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:23.920
and stuff. And then I go, well, why is Peter
1462
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:26.639
Teel like one of the major investors in this and
1463
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:28.320
he's connected to the CIA, and.
1464
01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:33.760
Oh yeah Bolenteer too, that's a good sign for Fusion, Okay, yeah, yeah.
1465
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:35.880
And this is why I tell people like, look, this
1466
01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:40.000
isn't stock advice, but when Helian Fusion goes IPO, just
1467
01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:42.440
go look at Pollenteer stock price and what's happened to
1468
01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:44.920
them as well? You know, It's like it feels like
1469
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:47.800
some of these companies are being kind of selected is
1470
01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:51.119
because they know or they have the right connections. And
1471
01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:53.760
to kind of like counter a point that Elon Musk made.
1472
01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:56.159
Elon's like, why don't they compete with me? Well, just
1473
01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:58.440
like you said before about like why don't they reveal
1474
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:01.320
this technology, lets happen, because then would be the technology, right,
1475
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:04.079
So that's why they can't compete with it. But they
1476
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:07.480
also don't care about being four hundred five hundred billion dollar,
1477
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:10.559
you know, richest people in the world. Give me one
1478
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:11.679
billion dollars and I'm good.
1479
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:12.400
I'll go disappear.
1480
01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:14.880
You never have to know my name, right, So that's
1481
01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:16.960
the way it seems to work behind the scenes. But
1482
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.159
if people pay attention, I mean, I think you can
1483
01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:19.800
see it happening.
1484
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:21.800
So you're saying Elon's like, why won't they compete with
1485
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:24.639
my space program? Basically is where he's at. And then
1486
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:27.320
and they're but secretly building drones that can go underwater
1487
01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:29.079
and fly into space exactly.
1488
01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:32.199
Yeah, and I don't know the space part's weird, Like
1489
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:34.079
I want to broach this topic with you a little
1490
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:37.960
bit too. That, Uh, the more I research these plasma
1491
01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:40.800
drones and stuff, I'm going like, did he even operate
1492
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:43.880
in outer space? Because I think they're using something called
1493
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:46.800
an air breathing system magneto hydrodynamic system, which means they're
1494
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:49.559
basically using either the air or the water is either
1495
01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:51.719
a fuel source or is like a catalyst and the
1496
01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:55.360
reaction so they don't have to have that stuff on board. Well,
1497
01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:57.440
outer space doesn't have nearly as much as like the
1498
01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:00.880
air or like water. So there's two ways to look
1499
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:02.480
at One would be that like, you don't need that
1500
01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:05.159
much stuff in outer space because you're just like floating
1501
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:07.679
through the air, floating through space, right. But the other
1502
01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:09.280
view of it is, well, even if you lose like
1503
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:12.559
a tiny bit of your matter your energy, then over
1504
01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:15.039
a long distance you're gonna lose everything, but before you
1505
01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:18.280
get there, right, So I don't know if they can
1506
01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:18.880
really be used.
1507
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:21.480
It sounds like a local defense tool, Like I think
1508
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:23.559
it makes sense for planets to have local defense drones
1509
01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:27.159
that are just plasma orbiting and protecting the atmosphere. That
1510
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:27.760
makes sense.
1511
01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:29.880
That's what I thought those new Jersey drones were.
1512
01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:31.760
Actually I was on with Clint Russell, you know him, right,
1513
01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:34.920
That was he and I did like really great livestream
1514
01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:36.679
where we were talking about that new Jersey drone thing
1515
01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:38.920
back in December, and I was like, I think they're
1516
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:41.480
like a defense mechanism, Like what if they're just drones
1517
01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:43.920
sit around their defense network, where like if someone shoots
1518
01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:46.239
a hypersonic at us, our drones just intercept it.
1519
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:49.159
And like wormhole it to the sun or something.
1520
01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:51.360
Or like an asteroid or something that drones.
1521
01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:54.480
To absolutely right, like the Opofos asteroid that I think
1522
01:07:54.599 --> 01:07:57.159
is like twenty twenty nine or something like that. I'm
1523
01:07:57.199 --> 01:07:59.079
not afraid of that because we got plasma drones that
1524
01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:02.039
are just flying around that can you know, intercept stuff
1525
01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:03.519
anywhere that they that we need to.
1526
01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:05.440
But this means too.
1527
01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:07.840
This is something that I learned from old anime shows
1528
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:10.280
is that the smartest anime shows would be like the
1529
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:13.400
ones where the guys like trying to understand the villain
1530
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:15.320
and like what his power is and like what his
1531
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:18.399
weakness is in his power. That's how when I look
1532
01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:21.119
at like the teleportation technology, I was like, what are
1533
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:23.000
the limits to this? Turns out there's a lot of
1534
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:25.239
limits to it. It's not just like oh I can
1535
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:27.399
just zapp and just now I'm on the moon and
1536
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:29.960
now I'm back. Turns out it's like a one way
1537
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:33.560
trip kind of situation, like you zapp here and now
1538
01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:35.159
you're over here, but now you have to do it
1539
01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:37.479
again if you want to go you know somewhere else.
1540
01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:40.000
You know where I'm at with with wormholes, Maybe you
1541
01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:42.479
have more to say is charged black holes. I'm not
1542
01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:44.319
sure if you're familiar with the charged black hole. It's
1543
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:46.520
different than a regular black hole. It's like rotating, and
1544
01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:48.560
I think it's been woken up. I think it's a
1545
01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:52.319
teleportation mechanism. If you travel through a charged black hole,
1546
01:08:52.399 --> 01:08:55.439
it will super accelerate you through that singularity. You'll go
1547
01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:58.359
through so tight and be shot out so fast. Afterwards,
1548
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:01.399
you'll super accelerate towards it's the first star you hit,
1549
01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:03.680
and then it'll slow you down and you'll stop in
1550
01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:06.039
front of it. And I think that's literally people will
1551
01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:08.760
aim towards stars between they'll put the charge black hole
1552
01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:11.119
between them and the star and they'll go through it,
1553
01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:13.239
and that will teleport them to the star. And that
1554
01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:18.000
we can actually charge our black hole, Sagittarius B, I
1555
01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:19.640
think is at the center of our galaxy. We have
1556
01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:21.520
a black hole, but it's not charged up yet, So
1557
01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:23.119
I think we can charge that thing and use it
1558
01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:27.479
as a teleportation mechanism or whatever. It's a super accelerator
1559
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:30.760
basically not really teleporting, but it's at that speed, you know,
1560
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:32.760
it's hard to tell the difference. Yeah.
1561
01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:36.359
Leonard Suskin and Juan Melosina they believe that the black
1562
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:40.479
holes are quantum entangled. But there's an interesting theory that
1563
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:42.760
I hadn't seen before I read it yesterday, which was
1564
01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:46.479
that what if the black hole like doesn't have perfect
1565
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:48.800
entanglebl the difference between a black hole and a wormhole
1566
01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:51.680
would be when you create a wormhole, like I'm zapping
1567
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:55.239
like you know, this airplane here and it's reappearing over here.
1568
01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:58.479
But what if when the black hole pulls in matter,
1569
01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:00.760
it like rips it out, shoots it out like a
1570
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:06.000
sprinkler like, so it's like creating like multiple entanglements like,
1571
01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:08.800
but it's like they're not altogether anymore at that point.
1572
01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:11.159
And what if that's the difference in that really a
1573
01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:13.560
worm holes like a black hole, but it's like a stabilized,
1574
01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:16.199
temporary black hole like this temporary rip you make, whereas
1575
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:18.720
a black hole is like this huge amount of mass
1576
01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:22.279
that's just like anything comes in has wept in, shreded pieces.
1577
01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:26.600
We have scientific community located any wormholes yet like.
1578
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:29.279
Well, I don't know how we would even do that.
1579
01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:31.039
That's the problem because like even if you see a
1580
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.640
black hole like okay, well where's it coming out? Because
1581
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:35.560
what we what have we learned from entanglement.
1582
01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:38.159
It could be anywhere. It could be like literally anywhere.
1583
01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:41.520
So I think we probably will find some because I
1584
01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:43.800
personally think that these wormholes and black holes exist. But
1585
01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:48.359
the question is are they cosmological phenomenon other than black
1586
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:52.399
holes or are they purely like a laboratory produced phenomenon.
1587
01:10:52.720 --> 01:10:56.000
Right, the wormhole? What is it? Exactly? What's the difference
1588
01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:57.560
between a worm like? What is do you know what
1589
01:10:57.680 --> 01:11:00.199
the theoretical working definition of a wormhole is?
1590
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:02.760
Yeah, it's just a bridge between two points in space
1591
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:07.239
and time. And so you obviously really we have to
1592
01:11:07.319 --> 01:11:10.800
only imagine it metaphysically because we can't see an extra dimension.
1593
01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:14.199
But usually they represent it as like two flat surfaces
1594
01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:17.600
and then a tunnel between the two surfaces like this, right,
1595
01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:22.279
And so it's this conceptual view that, like I was
1596
01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:25.840
saying before, is that that space time is flat. Like
1597
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:28.399
I think it's been proven that space time is actually flat.
1598
01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:30.600
We don't really agree it, and flat earthers are probably
1599
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:32.880
gonna have a field day with this, but space time
1600
01:11:32.960 --> 01:11:34.920
is flat, we just don't perceive it as flat. And
1601
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:36.960
if it's flat, then you can just bend it like this.
1602
01:11:37.159 --> 01:11:40.199
And now the points that were previously not connected are connected.
1603
01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:42.520
Now that seems super weird to us because that's not
1604
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:46.319
how we see observe reality around us. But that's because
1605
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:49.199
all of space time around us is an equilibrium. It's
1606
01:11:49.239 --> 01:11:52.600
all perfectly equilibrium. But if we rip that out of equilibrium,
1607
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:54.279
then we start to see these weird effects.
1608
01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:57.560
But if it's true, if wormholes are real, then I
1609
01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:00.079
think it proves Ben Riches right, that all point in
1610
01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:03.000
space and time are actually really connected. We just don't.
1611
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:04.800
We don't perceive them as being connected.
1612
01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:07.479
And like motion and time and space and speed and
1613
01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:09.840
all that. If you're in deep space with no reference
1614
01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:12.039
point and it's black everywhere all around you, if you
1615
01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:14.640
start going faster, you won't know it because there's no
1616
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:19.960
there's no perceptual inertia. I don't even think there's inertia
1617
01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:23.039
if there's no relative space. I don't think that's I mean,
1618
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:26.279
they're like, yeah, good, there is technically inertia, but you
1619
01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:29.600
wouldn't perceive it so like, and then your distance would
1620
01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:32.000
be shorter, but you wouldn't have realized it was because
1621
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:33.239
you were going faster and didn't know it.
1622
01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:36.640
Yeah, it turns out like a lot of this stuff
1623
01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:41.119
is illusion the illusion like cloaking or the illusion of distance,
1624
01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:44.439
or when something gets smaller when it gets further away. Like,
1625
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:48.760
it turns out these effects, while they seem illusionary, they're
1626
01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:51.159
also just physically real as well. So like if you
1627
01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:55.159
contract or expand space because of relativity, you actually do
1628
01:12:55.439 --> 01:12:58.359
change physical properties. One of the things that was being
1629
01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:01.479
talked about, I think I Richard ban Durich, he was, uh,
1630
01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:03.840
he was making ways because he was talking about like
1631
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:06.399
alien meta materials or something like that. I don't know
1632
01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:08.560
about all his alien meta material claims, but he knows
1633
01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:12.039
about electromagnetism and gravity, and he was saying that, well,
1634
01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:15.960
if you have length contraction or length expansion from general
1635
01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:19.319
relativity from you know, things moving at relative speeds, then
1636
01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:22.800
you can have current actually increased from the perception of current.
1637
01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:25.760
Like if I'm looking at an object, the electricity being
1638
01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:28.159
formed will look like it's going up if you have
1639
01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:31.600
length contraction or expansion happening. And he explains this from
1640
01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:35.399
the perception of the electrons, and you're like, wow, okay, yeah,
1641
01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:38.800
so general relativity actually starts to get really weird. And
1642
01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:41.600
this could even explain like why do we have it,
1643
01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:45.279
Like imagine this cube of space time. Like, if I
1644
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:49.239
squeeze this cube of space time, what's gonna happen. What
1645
01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:51.760
I would imagine is whatever's inside this cube of space
1646
01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:53.079
time is gonna get pushed out.
1647
01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:54.800
It's gonna get pushed out. Squeeze that.
1648
01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:57.239
So if I have contraction of space time, what do
1649
01:13:57.319 --> 01:13:59.199
I think should be happening, Well, I think energy should
1650
01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:01.760
be getting shot out, probably in the form of photons.
1651
01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:04.920
So personally, that's how how my my view of the
1652
01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:07.000
universe is. I think the zero point energy is filled
1653
01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:10.399
with this invisible energy. That's an equilibrium I and if
1654
01:14:10.439 --> 01:14:12.199
you squeeze it, you get light.
1655
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:16.000
Oh, well, that's son iluminescence. Then I guess you're you're
1656
01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:19.600
squeezing on the bubble underwater. You're creating a vacuum. Well
1657
01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:21.840
you're you're what is You're running a vibration through and
1658
01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:24.319
creating a bubble, which then the pressure, the squeezing of
1659
01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:27.039
the pressure, releases a photone.
1660
01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:30.439
So sonal luminescence. You take water and you just shoot
1661
01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:33.760
the sound, Uh, create a standing wave in the middle
1662
01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:37.079
of your sound of your water, and the sound the
1663
01:14:37.159 --> 01:14:40.119
sound will actually create light. Light actually gets formed, and
1664
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:44.079
it's because it creates a cavitation and implosive effect that
1665
01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:47.960
produces light. Science struggles to understand why that's the case,
1666
01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.880
and why how there could be so much energy that
1667
01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:54.159
light is being released while like the glass that's containing
1668
01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:56.399
the water doesn't break, or why the water doesn't boil.
1669
01:14:56.720 --> 01:14:57.920
Why does the water not boil.
1670
01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:01.279
You've got you've got light being produced in the middle
1671
01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:04.359
of this, but the water's not boiling. Some people wonder
1672
01:15:04.479 --> 01:15:08.640
is fusion happening in sono luminescence? And so I think
1673
01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:10.720
that the reason why I love those experiments is that
1674
01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:12.560
when I was digging through this, digging through the science,
1675
01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:14.079
trying to figure out, like how are they are they
1676
01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:18.119
really hiding gravity whatever, you find all these experiments that
1677
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:24.319
like have no like palatable conventional explanation. And that's why,
1678
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:26.399
I mean, part of the reason why I'm absolutely convinced
1679
01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:28.159
that all this science is real is that when you
1680
01:15:28.199 --> 01:15:30.319
look at the underlying thread of it, you find out
1681
01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:33.199
that it goes back to Tesla, it goes back to
1682
01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:35.960
Maxwell's original equations before.
1683
01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:36.600
They got reduced.
1684
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:39.399
Is we threw out this scalar potential because we didn't
1685
01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:41.319
see it, We didn't see it out there, kind of
1686
01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:43.319
like how we don't see wormholes out there, but that
1687
01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:45.600
doesn't mean they're not real. The math says that they
1688
01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:49.039
should exist. Sure, so the scaler potential is real too.
1689
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:51.560
Maybe we just didn't we didn't, you know, find the
1690
01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:53.680
right effect to see it. Maybe it's mostly a lab
1691
01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:54.279
produced effect.
1692
01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:57.239
And this is what the effect of what exactly that
1693
01:15:57.319 --> 01:15:57.760
we're within.
1694
01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:01.279
Yeah, the scalar potentials like the affe of the medium itself,
1695
01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:04.720
so like the effect of and I believe it can be.
1696
01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:08.000
I believe the scaler potential gets seen more when you pull,
1697
01:16:08.159 --> 01:16:10.000
like you create an electric system and you shoot the
1698
01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:14.640
voltage up super super high, like above thirty fifty thousand volts.
1699
01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:18.119
Is now that scalar potential that was really really tiny before,
1700
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:21.239
now you can actually see measurable effects related to it.
1701
01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:23.399
And a common example that as I was up hiking
1702
01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:25.000
up in the clouds, I was up in the mountains,
1703
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:26.640
I was it was foggy. I didn't know it was
1704
01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:28.840
foggy because I was up there. It just looked normal.
1705
01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:31.520
And I was walking. I'm like, why am I dripping
1706
01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:33.880
with sweat? Literally as if I'd been in the pool
1707
01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:36.279
swimming in my clothing. I was dripping. My friend was
1708
01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:39.279
like you're dripping like drip drip, drip drip like why
1709
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:43.319
because the medium I was in imperceivably wet. I didn't
1710
01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:45.199
know because I was inside of it, I couldn't see it.
1711
01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:48.199
Exactly the same kind of thing with fit with space time.
1712
01:16:48.199 --> 01:16:50.760
There's so much potential energy in this medium that we
1713
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:51.800
don't perceive because.
1714
01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:55.000
We're in it, and that's what allows for really all
1715
01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:58.159
this science to be possible, of free energy, of over unity,
1716
01:16:58.239 --> 01:17:00.760
of fusion. I think that if they're wasn't a medium,
1717
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:03.000
why we wouldn't even be digging it. We wouldn't even
1718
01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:04.800
trying to do fusion. I don't think fusion would be
1719
01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:07.279
possible if there wasn't a medium of energy. I mean,
1720
01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:11.760
you'd have to be pumping in the you know, all
1721
01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:14.680
your fuel source conventionally, which I don't know how that
1722
01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:17.479
could ever achieve over unity from a conceptual viewpoint if
1723
01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:21.600
space is empty, but you know, maybe we can do
1724
01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:22.119
it that way.
1725
01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:25.800
So yeah, oh, I just I appreciate that you talked
1726
01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:30.000
about distance contracting and expanding distance and that producing an
1727
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:33.159
electrical charge, or even the perception of expanding and contracting
1728
01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:35.680
distance that could produce an electrical charge. I'm going to
1729
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:37.319
sleep on that one. That's really right.
1730
01:17:37.399 --> 01:17:40.840
You definitely want to check out the Paul Thibodeau graphing
1731
01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:44.800
thermal thing, which is really cool because essentially what he's
1732
01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:49.600
created is a battery that the batteries default state is
1733
01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:50.319
not zero.
1734
01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:52.560
The batteries default state is you know.
1735
01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:55.319
Pick a voltage number, it doesn't matter, right, because what
1736
01:17:55.439 --> 01:17:57.359
that would mean is that you can sap energy off
1737
01:17:57.399 --> 01:17:59.279
of it and it always tries to go back to
1738
01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:00.800
that equilibrium state.
1739
01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:04.840
Yeah, how crazy is that? Like a battery, chadgery battery.
1740
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:08.880
Nice job, Paul Thibodeaux. Yeah, I saw that one.
1741
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:10.880
I'm just like, wow, that was a type of And
1742
01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:12.840
so this is why I try to tell people, like
1743
01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:16.960
there's so many different conceptual viewpoints of free energy devices.
1744
01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:18.880
One of them is just a battery that just never
1745
01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:22.720
runs out. And so he's created an asymmetrical system that
1746
01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:26.960
it's equilibrium is not zero. And of course every physicist
1747
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:28.760
that was in the presentation is going, how is this
1748
01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:32.239
How is this not violating the laws of thermodynamics? And
1749
01:18:32.319 --> 01:18:34.920
he says as well, because it's basically just harnessing Brownie
1750
01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:37.520
in motion from the thermal ambient temperature. Like it if
1751
01:18:37.560 --> 01:18:39.960
you do the equations, the math shows that should work.
1752
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:42.680
They built the microchip. Microchip shows that it works.
1753
01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:44.319
What else do you want? Right?
1754
01:18:44.359 --> 01:18:47.600
And they've also they created nuclear batteries. They were doing
1755
01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:49.760
with like a small they have like nuclear waste. They
1756
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:52.239
put in glass or diamond or something and it produces
1757
01:18:52.600 --> 01:18:54.359
exactly the same kind of piezo electric.
1758
01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:54.800
You know.
1759
01:18:55.079 --> 01:18:57.399
That's the stuff where I think you're talking about where
1760
01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:00.399
they're using the word nuclear, I think a little everly,
1761
01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:03.159
where like I think they're like doing transmutation and they're
1762
01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:05.439
just been like, yeah, it's just nuclear.
1763
01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:07.479
You know, because technically it is. Technically it is nuclear.
1764
01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:09.960
But you're like, how are you doing it? How efficiently
1765
01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:10.920
are you doing it? Right?
1766
01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:13.479
Like, because you could theoretically be doing this super efficiently,
1767
01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:15.800
making like tons of money and just producing stuff that
1768
01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:17.800
would people would be saying is violating you know, the
1769
01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:21.359
laws of physics, vitalized laws dermodynamics. But yeah, I think
1770
01:19:21.399 --> 01:19:23.000
that there's doing it and they're doing it quietly, and
1771
01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:26.439
then they've got contracts with other government or other entities.
1772
01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:30.560
But breakoff. They'll break off like that little one for
1773
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:32.319
the public and be like, hey, look what we figured out.
1774
01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:34.560
You can you can maybe charge your iPhone with this.
1775
01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:37.000
Exactly.
1776
01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:39.239
And now, you know, when we talk about the companies,
1777
01:19:39.239 --> 01:19:40.800
I think I know where your politics are. You think
1778
01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:43.079
you're kind of more libertarian, kind of like I am,
1779
01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:46.800
you know, free speech, uh, freedom of you know, expression,
1780
01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:51.560
et cetera. You know, recently the United States took control
1781
01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:54.560
part of Intel because I think they're a micro chip manufacturer.
1782
01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:56.119
I think a lot of what I've found out about
1783
01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:58.760
this is like we're well past the days of like
1784
01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:01.680
magnetic motors and these like free energy devices people were
1785
01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:03.720
making that were like as big as a room. Now
1786
01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:05.199
we're to the point of like people are making free
1787
01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:06.920
energy devices on little microchips.
1788
01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:09.359
So microchips are the future.
1789
01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:13.720
There was actually somebody floating today the idea of Locking
1790
01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:18.159
Martin being potentially nationalized as well. Apparently ninety seven percent
1791
01:20:18.239 --> 01:20:20.960
of their revenue comes from the government. I didn't even
1792
01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:23.680
know that about Locking Martin until today. So where do
1793
01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:27.520
you stand on this, like, you know, nationalization of companies
1794
01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:30.439
under national you know, security or national defense. I mean,
1795
01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:33.039
if the technology is that powerful, if we have this
1796
01:20:33.159 --> 01:20:36.079
crazy you know, alien technology zero pint any tesla technology,
1797
01:20:36.600 --> 01:20:39.000
and is it right to nationalize them or is free
1798
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:40.960
market went over this is.
1799
01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:43.119
I'm so glad you. I just posted this on Twitter
1800
01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:45.199
before we went live, and that it's that in the
1801
01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:49.000
twentieth century was basically the war between fascism and communism,
1802
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:51.399
and it was one or the other, pick aside, and
1803
01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:55.840
the Western powers chose fascism with the Federal Reserve and FDR,
1804
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:58.560
and it was instead. It wasn't like Mussolini fascism. It
1805
01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:02.000
wasn't that kind of violent kicking doors in Hitler fascism.
1806
01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:05.359
It was British fascism. It was peaceful fascism, but it
1807
01:21:05.439 --> 01:21:08.439
was better than communism, and it fascism won. And we
1808
01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:10.479
live in a fascist system where our government can print
1809
01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:15.119
fake money and does so many businesses with corporations behind
1810
01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:19.479
the scenes that is indicative of a fascist behavioral but
1811
01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:21.560
not on paper. They don't own any of the companies
1812
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:24.199
because that would be fascist. Well, anyway, Trump just did
1813
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:27.920
it blatantly in public for the first time. He's showing
1814
01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:31.439
our fascist nature by buying using government funds my money
1815
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:35.119
to print fake money to buy He basically made my
1816
01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:37.880
money worthless to print to buy a company. And now
1817
01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:42.600
they're talking about going full communist and owning businesses. It's insane.
1818
01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:46.600
Like we at least need a visage of a free economy.
1819
01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:51.920
Because Intel stock slip cook Intel stock went up seven
1820
01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:55.960
percent after he invested eight billions or ten billion. That's
1821
01:21:56.039 --> 01:21:57.920
playing favorites in the market. What the hell's going to
1822
01:21:57.960 --> 01:21:59.319
happen to the other chip manufacturers?
1823
01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:03.479
Now, how's nobody talking about this? I'm saying, you're wondering,
1824
01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:06.640
like we just took over part of a chip manufacturer
1825
01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:08.960
and nobody's saying a word about are one hundred.
1826
01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:11.479
Percent playing favorites? I mean, there's no debate. We're playing favorites.
1827
01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:12.720
Of course their stock When I'm the first thing I
1828
01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:14.159
did was look at their stock. I'm like, this must
1829
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:17.000
have shot sent their stock up. It's like so and
1830
01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:19.560
I guess I can see it from national skier perspective,
1831
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:22.760
But I mean the public that's not been researching this stuff,
1832
01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:25.039
they should be all over wondering what's going on here?
1833
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:27.800
Like what's the justification for doing this? And how do
1834
01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:31.399
we if now that we've set this precedent right, why
1835
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:33.720
aren't we taking over Locked Martin. Why aren't we taking
1836
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:37.399
over Sierra Nevada Corporation? Why not taking over Battel Institute?
1837
01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:40.359
Like there's so many companies that are defense contractors that
1838
01:22:40.399 --> 01:22:43.479
are basically all their money comes directly from the US government.
1839
01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:44.399
Why aren't they taken over?
1840
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:48.000
Yeah, because that would be purely fascist or a communistic
1841
01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:50.159
dictatorship if they were to try to do something like
1842
01:22:50.239 --> 01:22:53.439
that and ruin the free market. And like, the thing
1843
01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:56.319
I remember from time to time is that most people
1844
01:22:56.720 --> 01:23:00.359
are not really smart. There are small, a very small
1845
01:23:00.439 --> 01:23:02.520
there are people that are really smart, and they're considered
1846
01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:04.159
really smart because there aren't that many of them, so
1847
01:23:04.199 --> 01:23:06.359
they're putting that category of really smart. And a lot
1848
01:23:06.399 --> 01:23:08.079
of times people in the government that you get that
1849
01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:11.760
same percentage. Maybe you get some people in government. They're
1850
01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:14.159
very charismatic people in government, a lot of them, especially
1851
01:23:14.159 --> 01:23:17.079
the ones that speak for a living. Charisma and intelligence
1852
01:23:17.119 --> 01:23:19.439
are not the same thing. Intelligence and wisdom aren't the
1853
01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:20.920
same thing. You might be able to remember what you
1854
01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:22.880
were told to do and do it and have high
1855
01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:25.720
intelligence and great memory recall, with no ability to discern
1856
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:27.479
if what you're doing is right or wrong because you
1857
01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:29.560
don't have any wisdom. So we have to remember that
1858
01:23:29.640 --> 01:23:31.479
just because they're people and they're given this badge of
1859
01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:34.279
authority doesn't mean that they're good or intelligent or wise,
1860
01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:36.439
and we have to keep these people in check.
1861
01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:38.520
That's a big problem.
1862
01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:41.279
How do you keep them in check? Especially if they have,
1863
01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:45.399
you know, magical technology. Let's just assume that these disclosure
1864
01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:47.800
people are all telling the truth and that there's aliens
1865
01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:49.479
here and we've got this alien technology.
1866
01:23:49.920 --> 01:23:52.119
Well, things have gone completely off the rails if that's
1867
01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:54.640
the case. If they've got a free energy fusion technology,
1868
01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:58.279
wormal technology, from aliens, from anything. How do you keep
1869
01:23:58.359 --> 01:24:00.640
someone like that in check? You can't, right, I think
1870
01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:03.479
they let the mask slip now where it's like, you know,
1871
01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:07.119
we just dunked on Iran. Putin just came and visited us.
1872
01:24:07.159 --> 01:24:08.960
When was the last time Putin came to America?
1873
01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:12.279
He just came to America basically basically bent the knee.
1874
01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:14.000
I don't people don't want to agree that he bent
1875
01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:16.199
the knee, but I think he did. And then now
1876
01:24:16.239 --> 01:24:21.000
we're also just you know, nationalizing chip manufacturers. So I
1877
01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:23.159
look at this, I go, we're letting the mass slip here,
1878
01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:24.880
and like, this is this type of stuff I would
1879
01:24:24.880 --> 01:24:27.720
think would need to happen to put safeguards in place
1880
01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:29.319
so that if we did want to release any of
1881
01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:32.000
this technology, you know, we aren't going to be able
1882
01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:34.159
to destroy ourselves and in America will feel safe that
1883
01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:36.399
like China is not going to get our super advanced
1884
01:24:36.479 --> 01:24:38.880
microchips or whatever this is going on.
1885
01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:42.800
You think this the safeguard is purchasing the private companies
1886
01:24:42.920 --> 01:24:46.039
so that the other because I'm like, fascism isn't always evil.
1887
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:47.520
This is another thing I wrestle with, and it's not
1888
01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:50.359
always evil. Sometimes fascism can be good. You know, you
1889
01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:51.520
want to make that dumb argument.
1890
01:24:51.560 --> 01:24:52.000
It's true.
1891
01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:55.000
Sometimes you can use fascist tactics to create a stable,
1892
01:24:55.520 --> 01:24:58.800
healthy system for people. Even at the behage, we're still
1893
01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:01.920
conquering and absorb being resources from overseas. That's probably how
1894
01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:05.880
we're able to maintain fiat fascism. But it doesn't mean
1895
01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:07.760
it's evil just because it's fascist. So there there is
1896
01:25:07.840 --> 01:25:10.399
the argument that in the name of you know, survival,
1897
01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:14.800
we have to come together use our private our government
1898
01:25:14.880 --> 01:25:18.760
funds to buy what the fuck have we not done
1899
01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:21.640
this test? You buy ten percent? First, Oh, it's not
1900
01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:23.560
real communism, it's only ten percent. He doesn't have a
1901
01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:25.880
control and share. Yeah not today?
1902
01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:28.560
Yeah, Well, I mean we just they can never that
1903
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:30.960
company can never fail now, right, because We've just bought
1904
01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:34.000
ten percent of them, so they will obviously never fail anymore.
1905
01:25:34.039 --> 01:25:36.760
So yeah, I mean, that's just it's ridiculous, the whole
1906
01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:39.439
idea that we're just buying this stuff of these companies up.
1907
01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:43.359
But I guess the last part would be, like, well,
1908
01:25:43.439 --> 01:25:46.680
what really is even disclosure at this point? Like if
1909
01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:49.600
we assume that there are let's just assume that there's aliens,
1910
01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:53.039
we've got this technology or what have you, Like, how
1911
01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:54.439
do you even define disclosure anymore?
1912
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This is why I came up with this term called woke.
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Disclosure, because I think the woke disclosure people look at
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kind of what we laid out here and they come
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to a similar conclusion, like we can't have all this.
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There's certain stuff that's got to be kept secret for
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national security. But they got to do something. It's like COVID, right,
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we have to do something. It's like a cold virus.
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There's nothing we can do as a cold virus man.
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We have to do something.
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Make everyone wear masks.
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Just make everyone wear masks.
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We gotta do something, right, I feel like they are
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doing the same thing with the aliens. Are going we
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have to do something, Okay, just tell everybody aliens are real.
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Look, we can do that.
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That's not gonna hurt national security. No one's gonna make
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a super weapon out of that, right, just tell aliens
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are real. The problem with that is it's so stupid, Like, Okay,
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if aliens are real, how are they getting here? Like
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where are they coming from exactly? And how are they
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getting here? And what is the fuel source for their
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magical UFOs that are flying around defying gravity?
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Right?
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Like those are my first three questions.
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So this is the part where I think that the
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whole woke disclosure thing is like I think they just
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think they're better than us, and they know better than us,
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and they might even be right, honestly, but I hate
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that viewpoint of this idea of like we just they
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have to control our lives because we will we will
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blow ourselves up if we if we do, Like, honestly,
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for me, and I want to know your opinion, I
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just say, if that's the case, if it's between us
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blowing ourselves up with this technology or just living a.
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Lie forever legends, I'm gonna roll the dice. Man, We're
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just gonna blow ourselves. If that's the case, then that's
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how we go out that's the end of our story.
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I guess, yeah, that's honestly, what do you think.
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Like honesty and deceit? I used to think like honesty
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is the only way and deception is a mortal sin.
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It's not The Catholic Church actually says honesty is not
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a virtue. Lying is not a sin to the Catholics.
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I mean, they don't care. Uh it's so. I firstly,
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if aliens came here, they would not discern between our
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governments and our people. They would just show every They
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would just be here and everyone would be like what
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it would be? You know that It wouldn't be like
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we secretly had a message with the guy we think
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might be able to tell the world, Like what the fuck?
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They're here for power. They're here to That's why they're here.
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They're here to expand that's why they came. Uh so whatever,
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But I I just I agonize over this. This the
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thing about the plays, you know, like the common man
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and then the elite, the royal FA the royal and
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their subjects. The Romans called them the plebs and then
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the leaders whatever that. But what it is is generations
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of people with good nutrition developed very powerfully capable brains,
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good thinking, good intelligence, good wisdom, and then their children
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have good intelligence, and then they give they have There
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are family lines and communities of people that have had
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excellent nutrition over generations, so they're very equipped to organize
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and lead and run things. I get it. But that
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doesn't mean that other people can't. It just means that
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maybe they were dealt a bad hand coming in, or
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dealt like a non nutritious brain matter, you know, body now,
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But that then you gotta think, well, they're still animals.
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Humans are animals, and a dumb animal is a very
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dangerous creature. So you got to you gotta just play
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real cards as they're dealt, and that is a true
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fact of nature. So I hate the idea of keeping
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things from people, man, especially when I see someone that
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I know could be great and they haven't become great yet.
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But they're not great yet, and I can't treat them
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like they are.
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So oh, so what do you think? What do you pick?
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Then?
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If if it's been choices between ignorant bliss living the
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world that we're in right now, you know, our twenty
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first century world, or taking the risk that we destroy ourselves.
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But we get Star Trek.
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Technology you know, wormholes, warp drives, even replicators, not immediately
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but soon.
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Which one are you gonna choose? Well?
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Which would I interested in? The risky path? But we
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have to discuss the risk, what's the what's the what's
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the calculation here? Now, let's build a system of risk
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management and go from there.
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And that's where I.
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Think, that's where I would I think that's a good
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spot to kind of leave the conversation today, because this
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is what I would say that I would hope that
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you know, you would take from this as somebody that
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you know is on with Tim Poole all the time
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talking to these congress people that are looking at disclosure
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and what have I think it's got. The conversation has
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to become bigger than just aliens, right. The conversation has
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to become more about, Okay, what comes with that? Is
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what kind of technologies come with that? And then what
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are those technologies mean? If they really are free energy technologies,
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these technologies.
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That are like star Trek stuff, then what is that discussion?
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Like, how do we put those guardrails up so that
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we can get these technologies to humanity in a safe
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way where we mitigate the risk, Right.
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Yeah, man, I'm thinking of I don't know why I
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think of the CCP as the boogeyman. I don't like
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having a boogeyman on. I don't think we need to
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have a boogeyman. I think that's just kind of human nature.
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We're so used to it genetically from always fighting against
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this animal coming to try and eat my family. I
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don't think we have to live like that all the
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time anyway. But I just imagined like a virulent, you know,
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angry regime that's hell bent on destroying everyone getting access
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to some superpower. But like I mean, if it's going
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to happen, you know, living in ignorant bliss doesn't necessarily
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make it not happen.
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I'll kick the can down the road, right, That's not
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gonna not really solve anything in the long run. Let
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me ask you about the question, Yeah, does the do
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you remember a time when China was in our adversary?
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Because I feel like I'm when I was younger, even
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in my twenties, like China wasn't even like our adversary.
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They were never our adversary. They did TMMN square And
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it was like what the thought, like it was obvious
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they were completely batshit psycho when they did, when they
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massacred all those students for rising up in protest at
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TM and Square, I thought that was like, Okay, these
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guys are off the book evil to do that to
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their populace, that's that's terrifying that they would govern do
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that their public. That's what I took in the early
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nineties from the CCP and then never had a problem
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with them. I've always loved I mean, I know Chinese
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products are shitty and cheap. I don't buy them. I
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try to buy them. I love China, the history of China,
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the Han dynasty, romance of the Three Kingdom is a
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huge part of my childhood. I read the novel twice,
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the game Lou Bay South South Dong Jao and all
2049
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the characters I identify with Chokulong, this ancient teature of
2050
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the Chinese people who invented the repeating crossbow, and like
2051
01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:06.039
he could control the weather, you know, as the story says,
2052
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:10.560
he could call lightning and things. I love China, Chinese
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history and the people one on one when I meet them.
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I'm just always concerned with communism and central governments, you know,
2055
01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:19.319
trying to centralize authorities insane to me, which is like
2056
01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:23.079
buying intel with our government. It's insane to me. Okay,
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I agree, I don't think. I don't think. I don't
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even think there are a villain. And you know what,
2059
01:32:26.840 --> 01:32:29.600
but Scott Horton on Lex Freeman just did a ten
2060
01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:32.640
hour interview with Lex Freeman talking about what caused the
2061
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War of pir basically starts with like the the Iranian
2062
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regime in nineteen seventy nine, goes all the way. I've
2063
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only watched a couple hours, but he said in the
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fifties and sixties, when they were developing counter nuclear war
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01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:44.880
protocols in the United States, if the Soviets go to
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01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:47.680
nuclear war with the United States, the plan was, we're
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gonna nuke every metropolitan city in the Soviet Union, and
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we're gonna nuke every metropolitan city in China because if
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the Russians in US are going to take ourselves down,
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there's no way in hell we're letting those commedy bastards
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take this planet. And that's this protocol is basically, if
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anything goes down, we're wiping all of China out. And
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I think the Chinese know that, yeah, and.
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I think they all know that, and I think that's
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the reason why you can't have this technology comes out,
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because if somebody has, you know, a super black hole weapon,
2077
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then everybody's gonna make it a Mexican standoff, right, And
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01:33:16.479 --> 01:33:18.479
now we're back at a point where anybody does anything.
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The whole plants destroyed.
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So man, and this is where I kind of wonder
2081
01:33:22.479 --> 01:33:25.760
about the China question, Like, yeah, they are communists, no question,
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01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:29.720
they're controlled government. But it's like, if you know, if
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you knew about free energy technolog if you knew about
2084
01:33:31.800 --> 01:33:33.840
the dangers that this technology, and you were one of
2085
01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:35.800
those elites like you probably would do this. I think
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01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:37.760
most of us would do the same thing. That's the
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01:33:37.800 --> 01:33:39.840
scary part. And so then it's a matter of just
2088
01:33:39.920 --> 01:33:42.399
like how do we change the incentive structures, you know,
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in a positive way where we can have you know,
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some of this stuff an actual disclosure of information technology.
2091
01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:52.079
Reducing fuel costs is a big part of it, which
2092
01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:54.560
is why the hydrogen revolution excites me, whether that's through
2093
01:33:54.680 --> 01:33:57.920
fusing hydrogen into helium or using hydrogen gas as a
2094
01:33:58.039 --> 01:34:01.920
propellant or as an excitator or heat to get propulsion.
2095
01:34:02.359 --> 01:34:05.319
Like the hydrogen revolution, reducing the cost of fuel will
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01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:09.119
reduce the real national debt from thirty six trillion. On
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01:34:09.199 --> 01:34:11.840
paper too, if if fuels a tenth of the cost,
2098
01:34:11.960 --> 01:34:14.720
then our national debt may say thirty six trillion. It's
2099
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a tenth of that in reality, and that's a rough,
2100
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:20.640
a rough calculation, but it might. You might pay one
2101
01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:23.439
hundred dollars, but you're the value. It's easier to get
2102
01:34:23.439 --> 01:34:25.720
one hundred dollars because it's so much cheaper for your fuel.
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01:34:25.960 --> 01:34:28.640
That's the point. And then that reduces global tension, and
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then as humans will be able to reinvigorate the twenty
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01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:34.880
first century tech what we do.
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I'm until Saudi Arabia is like, wait, you don't need
2107
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oil anymore. No, we hate you. We're gonna blow you
2108
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all up now.
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But no, they're smart enough to like get on board
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with this before, Like they're they're investing in this technology.
2111
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I think, like, and honestly, you can use that flash
2112
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jewel process I was talking about where you electrocute carbon.
2113
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You can do that to oil. You can put oil
2114
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in a vacuum and electrocute it and turn it into
2115
01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:58.439
graphene and get hydrogen, so it's still useful carbon, Like
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01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:00.239
you don't have to burn it for fuel. You can
2117
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use it to create graphing and then it's even better
2118
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fuel in a lot of ways, and with col too.
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Yeah, this is an awesome conversation. Ian, go ahead. Do
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you want to shout out you know, any of the
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projects anything you're working on? Oh?
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Yeah, while I'm working on a lot of music behind
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the scenes. I got a movie upcoming that I'm producing
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right now, and obviously I'm working with Tim Pool all
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the time. I'll be on Friday Timcast i RL on
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YouTube and Rumble Timcast i r L at eight pm
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Eastern Standard time. You can always follow me Ian Crossland
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on really any social media networks that you'll find me on.
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I do Rumble, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, x, you know, Instagram.
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Those are my top I think at the moment, Top
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five minds. Follow me on minds. Happy to be here,
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ashuay Man, this is great man.
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Yeah, this was awesome. So yeah, this is great.
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Let's meet up again sometime soon. Play some magic cards
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and let's be in touch and we'll talk more science.
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This is awesome conversation.
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Excellent, man.
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See I take it easy later
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Ian Crossland. Welcome to hard Truths.
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Man.
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How are you doing today?
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Great dude?
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You know, first question, do you know what these cards
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are over here?
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Well?
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I know I know their magic. I thought they were
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magic cards. I couldn't tell if they were magic or Pokemon,
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but I thought they were magic cards. But what I
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can't tell what cards they are? Are they? What are they?
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this is the coach sent me that uncut sheet right there.
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That's a war the spark, the one with all the planes.
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Walkers in it. I don't know if you remember, but
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It looks amazing. Dude, are they foil.
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being a nerd anyway. I'm not ashamed of it at all.
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Yeah, it's mathematics magic the gathering. It's just math with
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the colors and pictures of dragons and shit. But it's
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all math.
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you're a musician, that mathematicians when they are asked what
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study are do they most relate to?
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I have heard that. It's works with me too, especially geometry.
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like pattern, like when you moved, when you walk across
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the room, it's like a pattern. I see, like a
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pattern of motion, and so I hear that when I
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a line graph. I can picture the shape of the sound.
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spherical canonical shapes and things like that. And I think
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a lot of is like filling space. Similar with cooking,
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all the little parts of the bowl and that no
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part of the thing is too hot, that all the
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temperatures evenly dispersed. So it's kind of with sound is similar.
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when you think of you know, you're really describing waves.
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a wave? Can matter be a wave?
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this definite thing, definite thing? But is it possible that
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we are just a complex series of wave forms? But
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we you know that there's some other explanation. Do you
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do you agree with the that kind of viewpoint, that
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vibration of space time that's causing the position of the
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subatomic space to face left, and then the frequency changes
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what's causing shape to snap to that form.
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the quantum level because we can see like the perturbation
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there must be this quantum spin. But then it's like,
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what does that actually mean? You could watch videos all
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day of people online trying to explain quantum spin, but
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end of the day, it's like, we know it has
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the properties of something that's spinning, but at the same time,
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we think of it as just this like quantum kind
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which is the ether. It's like the idea of this
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extra dimension that was thrown out, you know, like one
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hundred years ago. Because if there is this spin that's happening,
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if there is some effect that's had, where's it coming from?
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some force kind of pushing on it from some direction
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to happen. Have you had any thoughts about the idea
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of the ether and extra dimension at all?
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ether exactly? Is that the fabric of space time is ether.
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a super fluid if you were really described it as
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a lot of different ways to describe it, but you
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it can jiggle it a little bit, like it's.
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Leonard Suskind, who's written is kind of popularized er equals EPR.
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the same time.
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connect it together. But the way I perceive it is
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like Yin and Yang's like you've got our observable reality
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it must be connected through this idea of quantum gravity
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that is in this imperceivable extra dimension. And what this
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then opens the door up to is like you know,
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wormholes and things like that, where you would say that
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like the holographic principle. So if I'm playing a video game,
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video game, but I know I'm not really, I know, really,
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I'm on a microchip somewhere right, and that if I
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a different microchip somewhere else, and now you know they
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dimension to explain like how can you you know, how
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fabric of the sub atomic reality.
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this ether all the time. So it's the idea that
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like hal Pudov's nineteen eighty seven paper that says ground
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state of the hydrogen atom is he says it, Oh,
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this at the hydrogen atom when it's at rest, it's
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not radiating energy, but they would expect it.
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point energy all the time, so they might have like
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protons spinning around each other at the speed of light,
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putting information into the vacuum. Maybe it's the ether is
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what he's talking about that he calls of the vacuum
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of space time, and so it's repositive depositing information into
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the vacuum. The vacuum itself then is doing a massive
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calculation of everything in the known universe and then giving
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You guys ever talk to him or had him on
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the show or no.
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I've only seen his stuff. Yeah, I've been. People have
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been telling me to contact him for literally nineteen years.
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I would love to get in touch with them.
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just realized it. Okay, So yeah, now seem here.
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these guys. One of the things I've realized is they
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use a vacuum, but they'll also say, well, the vacuum
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energy of the ether. Uh, they're connected through this idea
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especially recently, ANNAPOLINEA Luna was on Joe Rogan and she
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was talking about, you know, the extra dimensional aliens. I mean,
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you guys have heard this thing. You guys have either
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had her Nancy Mace or you know, you guys have
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Luna Ana Paulina Luna while we were at Congress. We
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Congress and what do you think about this UFO disclosure stuff?
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I think that extra Okay, I think it is. It's
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a misnomer to say extra dimensional. That's insane. You and
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I are extra dimensional creatures. We live in multiple dimensions.
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the fifth dimension, even though you might not see it
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with your eyeballs. So that is like a really dumb
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layman thing to say extra dimensional, that these things are
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extra dimensional. Yes, of course. Uh you know, if we're
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talking like spirits, that's a I don't believe them. I
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don't believe that spirits are piloting airplanes. I don't.
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what does that actually mean?
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Like, yeah, we're extra.
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Dimensional beans, we live in three dimensions and a time dimension.
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it sound scary or something like sensationalized, like oh, yeah,
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the extra dimension. Because when I found like, okay, there's
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this extra dimension, this ether, and you know, maybe this
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wouldn't call a bean that goes through a wormhole an
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extra dimensional bean.
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I would just say it just went through a wormalle.
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come run different you know, universe if you believe in
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multi worlds theory. So I guess what I would want
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to know from them when they're asking this stuff is like,
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are you saying that there's infinite universes and that you
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can go to different ones? Because that would be a
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major physics claim to say, right, is that there are
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multiple universes and aliens are coming from a different universe
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than we're coming from.
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So, I mean, do you what do you think?
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or do you think that like this is some kind
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of narrative that's being pushed.
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she's just repeating that, she's repeating what she was told
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by someone that probably was told that or decided that's
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the narrative we're going to run with. But I also
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think they are working with like space time warping technology
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that they're creating cavitation bubbles and defying you know, classical
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physics and things like that.
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like what Science and Technology advisor Michael Kratzios has been saying,
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if you you know, if you question that, I mean
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literally said, we have the ability to manipulate time and
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space to annihilate distance. And we've had Trump say multiple
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times that we've got weapons that nobody understands.
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How they work.
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to be scripted. Basically, people think that manipulating time and
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space is some magical sci fi Star trek type thing,
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but actually it's much simpler than that. It's really just
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about I mean, gravity is just mass that's condensed into
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a region, that's just pulling on something. That's the way
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we at least perceive it, right, It's not necessarily exactly correct,
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but mass is just energy equals mc square. So in theory,
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if you have a whole bunch of energy, then you
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should have gravity being sucked towards that, right. I mean,
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that's a simple thing to understand. So then what then,
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I would say, Okay, well, at what scale, like does it.
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Have to be a sphere? Of mass like this size
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of my this sphere here, or can it be a
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super super super tiny dot? Right?
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Can it be a super tiny dot and I just
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compact as much energy onto that little little tiny dot.
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Is it really about energy density?
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It's really about how much can you compact onto a
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little tiny point. And turns out when you look at
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it from that perspective, it's not that insurmountable of the challenge.
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It turns out we can have like these super powerful
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lasers that focus energy onto a very tiny point in
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time and in space, and that, in theory could be
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enough to stimulate a gravitational effect of me, you know, measured,
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and then that can also be useful for things like
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fusion as well. So it's I don't think it's surprises
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anybody that they're at least working on the ideas of
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anti gravity or gravity manipulation, space time manipulation, whatever you
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want to call it, it's all the same thing. I
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would just call it, like manipulation of the ether. You
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were talking about cimatics, Like, the question is how do
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you manipulate entanglement?
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How do you create entanglement?
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I think you need to understand where you're going, so
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What you do is you have to map the matrix.
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derive what is in each position, how the consistency, how
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much of it and where? So what how much and where?
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If you can mapch that for every incremental metal point
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in this three dimensional x y z cube, then you've
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mapped the matrix. You know what, where and how much
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of each in each space. Then you have a mathematical map.
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You can teleport too. So if you know where you're going,
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if you know what you're going, you know where you're going,
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what you're going, it's the same thing. What where? It's
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all one thing. What is it? That is where it is?
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If you know that and you can calculate that, then
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you can target it, I think, and then you can
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you can replicate it locally and be there at a distance.
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You know.
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They have a term for what you just said. It's
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called solving Schrodinger's equation. So actually there are people working
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on this idea of like if there is a medium
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and even though we can't perceive it, is there a
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way where we can like reverse engineer, like you said,
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like figure out the matrix? Right, Like we only imagine,
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we only see this flat surface. Is there a way
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to figure out, like, what is all this like with
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this whole bulk here that we can't see? Is there
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a way to measure, measure it and measure its effect
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on our flat two D reality? And the answer is yes.
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The Aaron Hoff Bom effect is a good example of this.
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Aeronoff Bom effect is a real experiment. They take a
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solenoid that traps all the electromagnetic fields in a cylinder
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inside of it, and you would say, okay, well, there's
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no electromagnetic field signal on the outside of the solenoid,
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so if I shoot an electron past it, nothing, there
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shouldn't be any interference or any you know, shift in
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the phase pattern.
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There's an actual measurable effect. It's called the scaler potential
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and so or the magnetic scalar potential of it. And
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so the question here then is if you can measure this,
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then can you reverse engineer it. There's a great uh
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presentation that I was watching about or or optical vortices
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of light, and really what it was about was like
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trying to figure out like if you have this vortex motion,
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if you were looking at a two dimensional surface and
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you just saw a circle. Could you map out what
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the vortex motion is in an extra dimension?
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Could you map it out?
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And after they model it out a while, they come
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up with and they say, oh, here's an equation that
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you know, seems like it fits what the experimental data shows.
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And so from that that kind of you know, answers
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the question too. Could you actually create entanglement? Could you
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manipulate the ether or this extra dimension to cause two
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things to be you know, joined together.
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Now maybe, well, yes, if you can solve it.
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But if we can figure out the subatomic formation of
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the matter and then figure out what frequencies if this
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theory that it's a simatic you know, phenomenon that's causing
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sub atomic formation, if you can figure out what frequencies
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cause the sub atomic formation to cause the matter to be,
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what is thus like this this area that you want
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to entangle to, then it would be more of creating
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the frequency patterns in a system to reproduce the sub
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atomic features.
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because cimatics, if people are not familiar, the simplest explanation
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of cimatics is you just take a metal plate and
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you put sand on it and then you just hit
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it with or vibrate the plate at different frequencies and
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different shapes begin to form. So the question here is
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is this connected to this idea of the ether, Like
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why are those shapes forming from certain frequencies? Is it
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because we're in a medium and you're seeing this vibration
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and can you then map that that's what they are
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doing with Bose Einstein content states. That's actually what Bose
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Einstein content states are. Now we think of them at
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this thing at very low temperature, but it really when
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you boil it down to what is actually means this
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coherent shape that's being created by a frequency, and so
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how is that being created?
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Go ahead and like the simatics on the plate you
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were talking about, that's a two dimensional represent When you
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see three dimensional bubble simatics, good board, I think that
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is what is that Bose Einstein condensates. They think that
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they're bubble simatic or maybe something got to getting close.
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I mean, I think we're blurring the line at this
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point in terms of what, yeah, is it The same
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physics at play in the bubble simatics is what we
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see in the Bose ein Sein condensates, I think so,
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and the idea there is that we're creating these coherent
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stabilized shapes and the other thing that then ether then
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opens up the idea to is like just stabilize structures
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in general, and geometry stabilize geometric structures. So a good
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example of one would be like a smoke ring, you know, smokering,
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Like when you blow smokering, it's crazy how stable it is,
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like that thing can blow and blow and blow.
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And the reason why it's stables because it's a toroid.
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It's a toroidal shape, so you'll have the toroidal field
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and then you'll have the paloidal field going around the
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toroidal field as well, so you'll see the smoke kind
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of going around the ring as well as it blows.
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This also holds true for plasma as well. So the
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question then is can can we manufacture reality through these
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concepts or you know, going back to the disclosure question,
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can aliens do it? You know, can we make a
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Star Trek replicator out of this? When you start to
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be able to say, Okay, I'm gonna stimulate the ether
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with some you know, uh frequency, and then I'm going
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to cause an effect to happen the coherent shape to happen. Now,
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it's just like Okay, I'm just gonna tune it to
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whatever I want to occur, right.
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And it and it would be about the impulse of
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it too, so about the frequency and how fast you're
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introducing the frequency into the systems like bla bah blah
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blah blah by at a certain frequency and then you
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like slow it down, maybe you won't hit it, but
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then you like so like there's these what impulse are
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you delivering and what frequencies are being delivered, and then
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you'll be able to produce hydrogen with that that impulse frequency.
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And then if you do that and add other impulse
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frequencies to produce heat or or magnetic confinement, you might
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be able to produce fusion.
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So the hydrogen thing is really interesting because I keep
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thinking of this one experiment, the dynamic Casmir effect, where
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real photons are just being pulled out of the virtual photons.
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Because when I think about that from the perspective of
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you know, the ether is your point and going, wait,
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we're just pulling light out of the vacuum out of nothing, right, Well,
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how is that happening at all? And if we can
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pull light out of the vacuum, then well e equals
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mc squared, So light is you know, energy is matter.
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So and the.
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Most simple ad in the most simple element is hydrogen.
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So can we just literally produce hydrogen out of nowhere?
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I think the answer is yes. I think we actually
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can produce hydrogen out of nowhere and then transmute elements
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as well. The fusion aspect of it, I think is
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a little bit more complicated. I've been doing a pretty
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deep dive into fusion, and I don't think the secret
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is just like understanding gravity or what have you. It's
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a little bit more complicated than that. I think the
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real secret of fusion is actually.
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Non ignition fuel.
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Like in our heads we think of it as like
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we need to make a star, and we need it
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to be this star that's roiling with heat coming out
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of it. But if you incorporate the ideas of like
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Nikola Tesla and like electric circuits that are super efficient,
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then you can actually make an electric circuit, electric generator
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using fusion that doesn't require ignition that can produce over unity.
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So the idea of being we can get small scale
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fusion reactions like temporary ones like pulse ones like you're
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talking about, and get fusion reactions to occur, but we're
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not going to get this permanent sun that's there, and
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the output of that can be higher than the total
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energy input, which is really what we're trying to achieve,
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which is just infinite free energy.
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Right. Yeah, in order to build these little suns. I
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was thinking, I know, I think I know how to
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do it. There's this guy, John Kansas. He was a
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chemist in Ohio. He passed away in like two thousand
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and He was looking for a cure for cancer, and
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he was running frequency through salt water in his laboratory,
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different frequencies. I don't know if you've you've seen this.
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There's video of this guy doing this. He finds the frequency.
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I don't have it written down. He runs a certain
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frequency through saltwater. It lights off fire like a hydrogen flame,
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sixteen hundred degree hydrogen flame off the surface of the
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salt water. There's a gap between the saltwater and the flame,
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just like the sun, between the surface of the sun
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and the corona. There's that gap, and I'm like, okay,
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that's an electromagnetic flame being produced. So if that saltwater
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was in orbit, it would coagulate into a sphere. Naturally,
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we run the frequency through it, you get a light bulb,
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a star, and so you figure out if you can
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collect that heat somehow and use that heat to produce
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the electricity to continue the frequency, you'll have an ever
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producing star basically. But I wonder if that would produce
501
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like a z pinch phenomenon, if it would cause some
502
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sort of electric discharge into our own sun, into the
503
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Earth's magnetic field. Like it could be a real dangerous experiment,
504
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but it would be. It would be an immense amount
505
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of heat, and you just have to fuel it with saltwater.
506
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You just have to keep pumping saltwater in. Yeah.
507
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And that's the thing is that once we realize that
508
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we can use like water as a fuel source, I
509
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think I think it was redheaded. Libertarian was posted about
510
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Stanley Meyer the other day, and you know, I thought
511
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at once upon time that the whole water power car
512
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thing was nonsense. But then I realized I watched this
513
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video about if you take water and put it in
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like a cup or a bucket, and then take a
515
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tube and go up like a couple hundred feet and
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just an altitude, like you know, up some stairs or whatever,
517
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and you have your water tube and you suck the
518
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water all the way up through the tube. You get
519
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to a point eventually where above a certain level the
520
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water boils.
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Room temperature just boils.
522
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So like the water will go up to this level,
523
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everything above it just turns into gas automatically because why
524
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the pressure.
525
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There's not enough pressure.
526
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So without enough pressure, the water can't stay together and
527
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the water just falls apart. And so this would be
528
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how are people able to make.
529
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A water power car?
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Well, that's how you basically cause the hydrogen and the
531
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oxygen you just fall apart. And now you can use
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either as the fuel source. You know, you can pump
533
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the oxygen I think it is to your engine. If
534
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you want to make it more efficient, you can potentially
535
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use the hydrogen directly as fuel source as well. So
536
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we have fuel all around us. If we understand nuclear
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physics and nuclear science, and if we can manipulate gravity,
538
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if you can manipulate gravity itself, in my mind, you
539
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should be able to cause that net pressure, that lack
540
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of pressure. You should be able to cause that to occur.
541
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And then the question is, okay, well, how do I
542
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:28.400
how do you make a system. It's actually pretty simple.
543
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You just have your area where you have the water
544
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comes apart, and then you send it to a different area.
545
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You either send the hydrogen or the oxygen where you
546
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want to go to produce energy, or if you want
547
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it to recombine, you just send it to a different
548
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area where now that's gonna it wants to come back together.
549
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It's just gonna recombine there, and then you can use
550
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the excess energy or the energy that's produced from fusion.
551
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So I think the idea of the water power car
552
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is definitely within reason. And I think that some of
553
00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:55.000
these like low energy nuclear fusion reactors, they're trying to
554
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do what you just mentioned, which is like you know,
555
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burn salt water, or in some cases they're using the air.
556
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Air is fuel as well, because air's got potentially enough
557
00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:07.400
elements in it, they don't need a lot of molecules
558
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in order to make you know, fusion reactions occur.
559
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Oh man, you're as you were saying about the like
560
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making water reducing the density so it becomes gaseous. I realized, Okay,
561
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so if I took my saltwater out into orbit to
562
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light it up like a light bulb, it would turn
563
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into gas. So we maybe we need to take ice.
564
00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:26.519
We need to take ice into orbit and just electrocute
565
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ice or run a current through ice to give off maybe,
566
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and then it would melt and create like a self.
567
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Like the sun. The sun doesn't just evaporate, it's keeping
568
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itself in positions. So at some point I feel like
569
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the heat would would like be make a self containing
570
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I don't know.
571
00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:46.279
So let's talk about fusion, because this was the thing that, Man,
572
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what a eye opener for me. I was really all
573
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of like, why have we been failing at fusion for
574
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seventy years? You know, like we've been supposedly we've had
575
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the age bomb since the sixties, but I don't think
576
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there's ever been an official use of the age bomb.
577
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He really knows what a fusion bomb is.
578
00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:04.640
We just assume it's this big, big boom, right, We
579
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just assume that it is. So when I started researching
580
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fusion trying to figure out, like, okay, why we failed,
581
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why does it suck? The first thing I found is
582
00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:16.799
that the hot fusion people have really a one track mindset.
583
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They're trying to get to ignition. They're trying to get
584
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to a star producing a star that was really hot.
585
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Now here's the problem is that the energy efficiency of
586
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any system where we're just getting heat out of it
587
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is really low. Like let's I'm just gonna throw at
588
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random number. This is just an index number, like thirty
589
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twenty or thirty percent. Let's say if we could produce
590
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electricity directly from our nuclear reactions, that efficiency can get
591
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up to like ninety percent, so two three times more
592
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efficient than those other forms. So in theory, we don't
593
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even really want this all is excess heat. In a
594
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perfect world, what we'd like is we'd like our power
595
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plant to produce electricity directly, not like making steam and
596
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then having steam t spin.
597
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The turbine or whatever it is.
598
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:05.359
So when I was looking at the fusion types, I
599
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.880
found one that I've called the I can't say I
600
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.079
coined it, but I'm calling it cool fusion. So cold
601
00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:13.839
fusion was this idea that you could put like metal
602
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:15.920
rods in water and then all of a sudden, put
603
00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:18.240
like a current through it. Now it's gonna boil, and
604
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.480
there's gonna be this excess heat in there. And this
605
00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:25.279
was considered like basically like room temperature nuclear reactions hot
606
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:27.839
fusion is like a tokamac. We're saying, Okay, we're trying
607
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:31.039
to get ignition, and once we get ignition, then ignition happens,
608
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:34.279
and now there's enough energy that we've got this runaway.
609
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Star that runs itself.
610
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:39.559
There's a third option, cool fusion, and this is the
611
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:41.680
one I was kind of saying before. So the companies
612
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:46.119
are doing cool fusion are Helion Energy, which is funded
613
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:52.640
by Mythral Capital, George or pal whatever, Peter Thiel and
614
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:58.000
Sam Altman, and another one is try Alpha Energy, and
615
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both of these have backing by the Department of Event Energy.
616
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:02.519
And what they're doing is they're saying, we're not even
617
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trying to get to ignition at all. They're keeping their
618
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:08.839
temperatures lower than that. But they're using a different fuel source.
619
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They're using helium three. So they're doing something where they
620
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.039
call it a neutronic The neutrons are where the heat
621
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.160
comes from, So why is it all this heat coming out, Well,
622
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:20.680
the neutrons. So they found a form of fusion that
623
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.240
they're doing where they call it a neutronic fusion where
624
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there's only a very very little bit of neutrons coming out.
625
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:28.640
And so what this means is they can actually capture
626
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:32.720
the energy as electricity directly. The way they explain this
627
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:35.160
is they say, well, okay, we make this plasmoid and
628
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.240
they literally creating a plasmoid like a plasma smoke ring.
629
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And they create this plasmoid and its magnetic field strength
630
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.440
is so strong that while it's trying to spread out
631
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.119
and come apart, the magnetic field strength keeps it together
632
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.400
and the magnetic field strength pulling it together walls trying
633
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:53.640
to expand like this is where they pull the kinetic
634
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:55.480
energy out of the just and turn it.
635
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:57.960
Into like an engine like this. At least that's how
636
00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:58.559
it's described.
637
00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:00.759
You know what I think, But I think that is
638
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.759
is friction. That's that that excess heat that's in that
639
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.079
system or something like friction. I asked chat GPC to
640
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:09.680
help me calculate this because what's happening. There's this ideal
641
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:11.759
gas lots that the pressure of a system is equal
642
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:13.880
to the volume multiplied by the temperature. I think that's
643
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.119
what it is. So there's an inverse relationship in the pressure,
644
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.839
volume and temperature of a system. If you increase the pressure,
645
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:20.920
the system's either going to expand in volume or it's
646
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.640
gonna get hotter, and that's basically the thing. But the
647
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:26.880
ideal gas law is written for tubes to go longer
648
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:28.759
and shorter to get water out of wells. It was
649
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:31.359
written in the eighteen hundreds. So fusion, I think, is
650
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:35.319
this gas, this this plasma, you know, the fluid, and
651
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:38.880
but it's expanding, but it's expanding spherically, and when it happens,
652
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:44.319
it's expanding so fast that it the expansion itself produces friction,
653
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.119
and that friction is brought from without the system. It's
654
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:50.000
outside of the system, comes into the fusive system. The
655
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:52.440
friction then makes it get hotter faster, which makes it
656
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:54.799
expand even faster, which adds more friction, which makes it
657
00:29:54.839 --> 00:30:00.240
hotter faster. So you get this runaway expansion. It may
658
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.480
not be as simple as just saying it's friction, but
659
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:04.240
I think that that might be the phenomenon of like
660
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:05.039
I mean, yeah.
661
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:06.559
I think that's the idea, right, is that you're taking
662
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:08.839
this kinetic energy and you're able to then convert this
663
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.279
to electric energy. The way they describe it, like the
664
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:13.720
CEO of helium fusion would describe it, says, it's high
665
00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:17.000
beta values is high magnetic field compression. I think it
666
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:20.920
says like a bat a biotic. I forget, how do
667
00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:24.920
you say compression? And I guess this is the part
668
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:27.039
where people like struggle with this concept because it's so
669
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:29.880
different than what we've been led to believe from the
670
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:31.640
public perspective of like, oh, we're.
671
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:33.279
Trying to make this star right.
672
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:36.279
And the benefit of his approach is they use a
673
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:41.160
pulse approach as well, so they minimize the total input energy.
674
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:43.279
So instead of like trying to like focus this huge
675
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.519
amount of energy to make ignition happen, they're like, no,
676
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:47.799
we're just gonna hit it with this small pulse, and
677
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:49.920
then we're going to try to recuperate as much of
678
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:52.000
the energy pulse as we can as well, just like
679
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:54.880
with like with an electric car, with like how the
680
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:58.319
breaking in the electric car like recuperates the energy, same.
681
00:30:58.240 --> 00:30:59.000
Kind of concept.
682
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:02.440
And so I just even if I didn't believe that
683
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.359
they were on the right track, I would still be
684
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:06.640
like supportive of what they're doing because they're thinking outside
685
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:08.759
the box about the problem. They're going, Hey, it's not
686
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:10.559
really just a matter of trying to get to ignition.
687
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.759
What if we make our system super efficient, because once
688
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:15.839
we get to a point where we're getting more energy
689
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:17.839
out of this fusion system, then we're getting it that
690
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.119
we're putting into it. Then we just have to scale
691
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:22.400
it up right, because then you just have you have
692
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:24.519
infinite energy. Once you get to over unity, you're good.
693
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:25.880
It doesn't matter if you have ignition or not.
694
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:31.000
Right, Yeah, when you're talking about getting a system started
695
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.640
with like just impulses, I think of that when I'm
696
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.880
lighting my incense with a lighter. You can click the
697
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.720
lighter and have the flame there and just hold the
698
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.680
stick and just run all that fire and you're gonna
699
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.960
get that stick lit eventually. Or you can burst it
700
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:47.400
and just tap it with flame and it'll get really
701
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:49.559
really hot, really fascinating. Let go, and you can use
702
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:51.039
like a third or a fifth of the of the
703
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:55.319
fuel to get it lit. It's just about efficiency of fuel,
704
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.480
efficiency of input heat. You don't need to lather your
705
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.519
system excessive amounts of heat to get it hot. You
706
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:03.119
can pulse it.
707
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:05.960
And that's what Tim Poole was saying. Actually, he said
708
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:08.880
I'll probably never forget that. He said, free energy is
709
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.720
about efficiency, right. If we could get energy, if we
710
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:16.000
could have energy that's even just ten times less or
711
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.440
more efficient, less expensive than what.
712
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:21.920
We have right now. It would change everything to everything
713
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:23.720
about the world. That's what free energy is really about.
714
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:25.720
Everybody thinks of it as like free energy is like
715
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:27.839
energy is going to cause zero but it's not even
716
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.920
about that. And it's also not about producing something that
717
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:35.240
you know, produces energy from nothing at all. It's about efficiency.
718
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.799
It's about getting a system, designing any system, you know,
719
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:40.559
the square system, that you're getting more out of it
720
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:42.640
than what you're putting into it if you've done that,
721
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:44.319
and like.
722
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:46.519
Can people even get access to it? You know, that's
723
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:48.519
another aspect of is that energy free? Because if someone
724
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:50.759
in a laboratory has unlimited electricity but no one else
725
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:52.720
can use it, it's not really free energy. You know,
726
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.720
freedom really means like can people use it? Is it
727
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.200
accessible to people? Is it efficient in that it is
728
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.319
easily utilized by the pop less?
729
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:02.839
And that's what I wanted to ask you next, which
730
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:05.359
is do you think they'll ever let us have this?
731
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.759
Because you know, just long story short, I dug into it,
732
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:11.319
they're definitely hiding fusion. Like and it's kind of silly
733
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:13.359
when you think about it, because you go, we've had
734
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.519
the fusion bomb since the sixties, but we can't figure
735
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:17.240
fusion out.
736
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.000
Like what am I missing here? The sixties was like
737
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.839
a long time ago. So they figured the fusion bomb out,
738
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.079
but they just couldn't figure out how to get energy
739
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from it like this is.
740
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So the question is are they going to give it
741
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to us? And why or why not?
742
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:33.559
This is I think every time we hang out this
743
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:36.319
we talk about this, and we like keep asking each
744
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.200
other this question because it's like I think I want
745
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:39.839
you to be like, oh, yeah, everyone's gonna be I
746
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:42.599
don't know, it's dangerous obviously. This is like where I
747
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.400
come through is like how explosive is the potential force?
748
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.799
Like what if some idiot monkey drops it on the ground,
749
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:49.640
are we all gonna die? Because if that's the case,
750
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:51.839
you can't give it to every idiot monkey. No offense
751
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:53.839
to the monkeys out there. The hominid species is a
752
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:59.160
descend it from apes according to genealogy records, and people
753
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:01.680
are a make accent and they sometimes fall down or
754
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:03.599
mess up or get angry and do stupid shit. So
755
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:08.320
I'm I'm not totally against like not giving every piece
756
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:11.719
of information to everyone. I'm okay with with that. I
757
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.800
don't know, if fusion is necessarily the answer to thriving
758
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:17.840
is a species. But I do believe energy efficiency is
759
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:20.280
I'm more interested in hydrogen, which I I'd like to
760
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.639
talk about too. But where's your mind do you think?
761
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:26.400
Then? Where's the line? Right? Like, where's the line between
762
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:31.199
national security then and like the public good? Right?
763
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:35.119
I mean, if you can make the justification that well, sorry,
764
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.840
guys can't have fusion because you can make bombs that
765
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.119
can annihilate the planet. And I think you could, in fact,
766
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:42.360
I think that's probably what's gonna happen. That's just my
767
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:44.800
personal opinion. But you know, where do you draw the
768
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:46.679
line then in a scenario like that? And I think
769
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:51.519
that does or maybe I actually does that explain the
770
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.360
certain the whole situation that we have with the UFO.
771
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:58.519
Phenomenon right now? Like why is this whole thing such
772
00:34:58.559 --> 00:34:59.360
a huge mess?
773
00:34:59.559 --> 00:34:59.679
Is it?
774
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:01.880
Because because whatever it is that they're hiding is so
775
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:05.559
dangerous that like there's a serious moral question over whether
776
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:06.880
or not it can be allowed to be given to
777
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:07.320
the public.
778
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:11.360
That maybe like if they have fusion generators on those things,
779
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:13.119
I don't think they do, because if one of them
780
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.440
gets knocked down, that would be like the cat is
781
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:17.360
out of the bag. It's such a risk to put
782
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:20.199
one on board. But if they're not on board, how
783
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.239
would they be powering it like by laser from a
784
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.400
base station and moving it around like a magnet or
785
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:26.239
something could be?
786
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:26.960
Could be?
787
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.400
I mean that is Bob Greenier literally thinks that, Yeah,
788
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:30.840
like with the ORBS and that ma A Street seven
789
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:31.440
zero video.
790
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:32.639
He thinks they're using like.
791
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:36.800
Satellites and shooting lasers to create like interferometry to shoot
792
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.480
them around. Now, I think they are on board, And
793
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:41.239
in fact, I would say I think some of that
794
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:43.880
that has happened before. I don't think like they've shot
795
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.039
down like a plasma ball and then they were like,
796
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:47.519
oh we got this plasma ball.
797
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.800
But like there's a drone called the RQ one seven zero.
798
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:53.119
I don't know if you've ever heard of that, but
799
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:58.159
during the twenty eleven under Obama, Iran hacked this drone
800
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.719
and they they claim they hacked it. The Obama administration
801
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:03.840
denied it, and then they like posted pictures of it
802
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:05.400
and you're like, oh, well, that is definitely the RQ
803
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:07.840
one seven zero drone, And then they made their own
804
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.000
version of it, and I kind of wonder looking at it.
805
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.800
I was reading through the other day, like everything about
806
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.880
it's classified, so we don't even really know exactly what
807
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.320
propulsion like they had. They suspect there's a certain kind
808
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.760
of engine they were using. But what I found is
809
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.880
that these fusion engines they kind of use a Z
810
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:25.679
pinch type mechanism. They call it dense plasma focus, but
811
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:28.159
it's like a Z pinch mechanism. All they've done is
812
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.239
they turn that the turbine the engine. They just remove
813
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.199
the turbine from the engine and they turn this into
814
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:35.480
like a tube that's a heat exchange. So you put
815
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.800
these magnets along the edges of it. They're like opposite polarity,
816
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.159
and then this could just cause like any electron that
817
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:42.719
goes through it, or plasma that goes through it like
818
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.280
slows down, and I think they use like a helical motion,
819
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.639
so it creates the plasmoid in the middle of it,
820
00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:50.400
and then the plasmoid creates the jets that come out
821
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:51.559
of it, just like if you were looking at a
822
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:54.360
neutron star and they just angle it. So those jets
823
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.760
are the propulsion, Like that's how you fly around. So
824
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:59.000
if you shot that down like you could figure out
825
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:01.599
the science behind it, But I don't know if you're
826
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:04.039
going to figure out like fusion immediately. You know, it's
827
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:05.159
a slightly different concept.
828
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.559
It sounds like rifling, like the way that they built
829
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:13.199
they carve the spherical or the spiral into the engine
830
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:19.199
to create either accuracy essentially plasmoidal accuracy trajection and very
831
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:20.320
similar to how they built rifles.
832
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.719
Did Yeah, did you know that when they uh some
833
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:26.840
of the plasma fusion nuclear fusion scientists like there's a
834
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:28.960
couple of shapes that keep coming up, toroids or one
835
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.719
of them, but helical motion is another one that comes
836
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:34.639
up all the time as well, like this vortex motion.
837
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:36.320
So it wouldn't surprise me at all if there is
838
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.760
literally a connection with like you know, guns and the
839
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:41.480
and the helix motion of like the bullets and things
840
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:42.119
like that as well.
841
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:46.079
You nort now is the hydrogen revolution that it sounds
842
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:48.159
like is like right around the corner. For the last
843
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:51.000
fifty years out of Rice University, they're doing this graphene study.
844
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:53.159
I talked with Jim Tour who's like one of the
845
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.519
head scientists down there working on it, and they figured
846
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:58.519
out this process called flash jewel heating where they'll take
847
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.599
the electrocute carbon, any kind of carbon, trash, plastic, dirt, whatever.
848
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:04.480
They put it in a vacuum and they electrocute it
849
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:08.000
with seven thousand degree pulses of electricity and it breaks
850
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:10.440
it apart, and then it cools down and reforms into
851
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:12.679
its most stable form, which is the hexagon, which is
852
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.719
the graphene start structure. And so you get this powder,
853
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:20.119
black powder, graphene, bulk graphene, and it gives off hydrogen byproduct.
854
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:23.199
And so for every kilogram of hydrogen that's released, you
855
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:25.800
get about four dollars and fifty cents worth of graphene.
856
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:29.519
So they've inverted the cost. It used to cost money
857
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:34.159
to produce hydrogen. Now you receive, well, you receive product
858
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.199
to produce the hydrogen. So after the cost of electricity induction,
859
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:39.599
you get four dollars and fifty cents in return for
860
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:43.639
every kilogram of fuel hydrogen fuel you've produced. And he's saying,
861
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:46.079
our methane system across the United States is ready to
862
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:49.960
introduce the hydrogen for cars for fuel, So if we
863
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.760
want to start fueling our car. It sounds like they
864
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:56.280
have contracts with the Department of Defense. He said that
865
00:38:56.440 --> 00:39:00.840
we're on the cusp of a hydrogen revolution. Fuel wise,
866
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:04.360
I could see like a hybrid petroleum hydrogen cars where
867
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:05.360
you can pump one or the other.
868
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.360
I don't know, I think that they well, I mean,
869
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:11.360
my sources have told me that there's companies that were
870
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:15.280
already in the hydrogen game producing hydrogen. I didn't hear
871
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.719
exactly how they were doing it. But once you open
872
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:21.400
the door to solve the infusion, like and just what
873
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:24.679
we've already spoken to, like cimatics understanding the ether. If
874
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:28.239
you can create coherent shapes, now you can do alchemy.
875
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:30.800
Now you can produce any element that you potentially want,
876
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.239
and you can potentially do it at very low energy costs.
877
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:37.119
Yeah go, yeah.
878
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:38.920
So the last time I was to say is that
879
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:41.440
part of low energy nuclear reactions. I did this interview
880
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:45.480
with eng eight low energy fusion company, and one of
881
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.639
the claims they made was that they could potentially produce
882
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:51.760
hydrogen at a much lower energy cost than what the
883
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:53.480
conventional approach would be to it.
884
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:53.719
Too.
885
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:55.559
So you kind of have to keep your eyes open
886
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:57.960
on some of these companies, Like you know, if you
887
00:39:58.039 --> 00:39:59.599
were to look at it, they may just look like
888
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:02.400
completely conventional company, but they might then be doing using
889
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:06.440
some of these electromagnetic physics type concepts to really be
890
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:08.960
making more money than what you would be possible otherwise.
891
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:11.320
When I think about fusion, I think of the big
892
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:14.119
ask that it's like, all right, this is okay. I'm
893
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:17.000
from nineteen seventy nine. I'm cynical. That's just the way
894
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:19.239
it was. Growing up in Ohio in the eighties. Our
895
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.519
team Cleveland Brown's always lost was all we were always
896
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:24.880
it never worked out. I had to chag break out
897
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:27.360
of that mindset. But I'm like, that's what feels like
898
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:29.440
with fusion. It's like we're never going to get I
899
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:30.599
don't want to say it. I don't even want to
900
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.320
joke about it because I don't want to manifest it's happening. Obviously,
901
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:36.480
we're getting fusion. People are fusing things. But do you
902
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.360
think it's actually reasonably going to be like a power
903
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:41.480
source in the next thirty years for the common man?
904
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.559
Yeah, I mean it exists, I'll tell you that much.
905
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:47.679
Are they going to give it to us? That's the
906
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.039
bigger question. And I think that they are away in
907
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.360
exactly what you just said, which is their way in
908
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.880
the question of what's the risk of somebody using this
909
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:57.840
and creating a weapon that wipes us all out, and
910
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.159
can we stop it if they do? And do we
911
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:03.360
have the deterrence in place to do it? But absolutely
912
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:05.119
I think not only are we gonna get fusion, I
913
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:06.719
think it's gonna get a lot weirder than that, is
914
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:08.400
that one of the first things that is probably gonna
915
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:09.920
happen is we're gonna have to start coming up with
916
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:12.760
new new names for some of these energy sources. Maybe
917
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:14.840
the hydrogen Revolution sounds like a good way. Maybe we
918
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:16.880
just call it that, honestly, because I think it's gonna
919
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:20.800
be more all encompassing. We're gonna see like fusion companies
920
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:24.239
like Helium that aren't even doing ignition, that are producing
921
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:26.519
excess energy, and people are gonna be seeing they're wondering
922
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.599
how I mean. I was watching a debunker person who's
923
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:32.960
like a nuclear physicists themselves, and they were like listening
924
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:34.960
to the CEO of Heli and Fusion. They're wondering how
925
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.519
all these claims can be possible when these people are
926
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:38.239
struggling to make.
927
00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:39.360
A tokamac reactor, you know.
928
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:42.159
But then you're also gonna see stuff like free energy
929
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:46.000
microchips at the same time, like our low power devices
930
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:48.880
everything up to like a cell phone. In the next
931
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:51.280
five or ten years, like they're gonna be rolling out
932
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:53.559
free energy microschips, Like these devices just aren't gonna be
933
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:55.840
running out of energy anymore. And people are gonna be like,
934
00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:57.960
how is that possible? And they're gonna come up with them.
935
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.440
They're gonna call it like like I've been joking, they're
936
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:02.199
gonna call like space juice. They're gonna come up with
937
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:03.920
some stupid, like made up name they're gonna call.
938
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:06.599
It's just harnessing space juice. Don't ask questions, right like,
939
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:08.159
and yeah, okay.
940
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:11.599
It'll be like juice tapping into the piezo electric vibration
941
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:13.440
of the ether or something.
942
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:16.280
It's gonna sound something like really technical, you know, and
943
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:17.960
then that's what they'll say, and then everyone'll just be like,
944
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:20.400
I don't question why my phone never has to run
945
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:21.760
out of energy anymore, you know.
946
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.920
You know, sub atomic piazo electrics is a fascinating concept.
947
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:26.960
I mean, just piezo electric in general that you can
948
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.920
use like tensive vibration to get an electrical charge. And
949
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:32.639
then if you can scale that down at the to
950
00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:35.880
the micro chip level, the chips themselves power just just
951
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:40.599
by atmospheric you know, indenture create their own conductivity.
952
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:44.159
There's probably like at least three different ways to do
953
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:46.719
free energy from the micro scale that I found. One
954
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.000
is using the Casimir effect, which Sunny White has been doing,
955
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:52.199
and I think Garrett Model at the University of Colorado
956
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:55.760
Paul Thibodeau is using like a thermal effect, like the
957
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:59.519
thermal changes is vibrations, and even it can be in
958
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:03.519
a stationary temperature, but just the thermal just vibrations. Brownie
959
00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:06.519
in motion he made a microchip that basically just harnesses
960
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:10.039
that as well. So in addition to what you just mentioned,
961
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:12.480
so there could be a multiple different ways, like the
962
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:16.800
Pizo electric thing. People, anytime you have like a PhD
963
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:18.880
physicist come on, especially if you're talking to them like
964
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:20.719
on Tame Pool on a big show, you should always
965
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.559
ask them what is electricity?
966
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:23.800
Where does electricity come from?
967
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:27.840
Because Pieso Electricity explains it, like for people who are
968
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.199
not familiar. Pies electricity is like a quartz crystal. You
969
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.800
can squeeze the crystal and it'll produce electricity. They use
970
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:37.519
these in watches low energy devices, right, because you can
971
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:40.480
just shake your watch and now you get electricity. The
972
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:42.960
reason why that happens is when you squeeze the crystal,
973
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.559
the positive and the minus charges in the lattice structure
974
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:49.880
of the crystal separate. Normally, they're in an equilibrium the
975
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:51.960
positive minuses. Imagine them being next to each other.
976
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:54.320
When you squeeze the crystal, it pushes them apart a
977
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:54.800
little bit.
978
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:58.280
So what is electricity? Well, electricity is just the positive
979
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:00.519
and minus charges being separated, just like with the pies
980
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:03.480
of electricity. So anybody that understands electricity should be able
981
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:05.480
to tell you at the basic level, all electricity is
982
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.679
is positive and minus charge separated.
983
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:08.159
Is it?
984
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:09.119
And we can go ahead?
985
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:11.679
Is it? Because when you separate the positive and minus charge,
986
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:14.519
the elect they want to come back together, so it
987
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:16.519
produces an electrical current between them.
988
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:19.760
Bingo, you nailed it, right, So now you can see like, oh,
989
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:21.679
if I just look at it like that, then it's
990
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.880
a completely different view of what electricity even is. Electricity
991
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:27.400
is like a breaking of a symmetry, right, It's like, oh,
992
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.239
we're stuck in this symmetry. Oh if I just rip
993
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:33.559
these things apart, oh, now electricity exists, like oh, and
994
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.559
we should be getting taught electricity like that. That's a
995
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.840
much more logical, intuitive way than like, oh, the power
996
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:43.079
plant is like producing this electricity and then shooting it
997
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:45.440
through the wires and then it's like coming into my
998
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:47.559
house at the speed of light, which is not how
999
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:48.239
it actually works.
1000
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:49.679
It just seems like how it works.
1001
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.440
Dude. I want to capture lightning. I think that we've
1002
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.199
been staring at it the whole time. If we can
1003
00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.519
produce tethers that can like graphine tethers or some sort
1004
00:44:57.519 --> 00:44:59.800
of meta material that can absorb that can conduct the
1005
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:03.199
eat into a bay station and then absorb it down
1006
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.119
at the station, Like you could have these like feathery
1007
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:08.519
tethers up in the atmosphere constantly pulling the static charge,
1008
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:10.920
so you'll never actually have lightning strikes anymore, Like you'll
1009
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:14.840
prevent them and you'll just be absorbing the current. And
1010
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:17.239
then it's just about having a battery that can capacitate it.
1011
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:19.719
I think it's even easier than that. It's like, where's
1012
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:22.360
the electricity from the lightning strikes? Even coming from a
1013
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:23.119
deep space.
1014
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:25.360
If you see those above, if you ever watch above
1015
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:28.599
the clouds, those those those sprites they call them, that
1016
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:31.400
go just God knows where out into the next the
1017
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.519
next realm of galaxy or whatever.
1018
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:37.679
And I'm not like, I like the electric universe theory.
1019
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:38.719
I think there's some problems with it.
1020
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:40.199
But that was one of the fun things that I
1021
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:42.719
learned from is that I like to hearing other people's
1022
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:44.239
point of views, because then you hear like, are the
1023
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.079
what are the electric universe? People say about like the
1024
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:49.079
standard model and their view, And one of the biggin
1025
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:51.159
ones that go is like, where's all this energy for
1026
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:52.440
all these lightning strikes coming from?
1027
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:54.639
Like where else on this planet equilibrium?
1028
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.039
Well, those are a huge amount of energy coming from
1029
00:45:57.079 --> 00:45:59.840
and so of course they claim it's coming from the
1030
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.280
lactric currents that are connecting the Earth and the Sun
1031
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.519
and all the other planets and the solarcism, which I
1032
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:06.679
think actually makes a lot of sense. But then the
1033
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.000
point is whatever electricity is, whatever is causing those lightning
1034
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:11.719
strikes that happen, we should be able to tap into that,
1035
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:12.440
We should be able.
1036
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:12.800
To harness that.
1037
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:17.039
I mean, my view is that if energy is mass
1038
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:20.639
and we can do stuff like the dynamic Kasmir effect
1039
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:23.119
and just pull light out of the vacuum, then that
1040
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.880
means energy is everywhere. That means we don't even need
1041
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:28.239
the sun, and we don't even need to make a sun.
1042
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:31.039
We can just pull energy theoretically just straight out of
1043
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:31.679
the vacuum.
1044
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:35.800
So you're talking dynamic Kasmir effect you're talking about. Is
1045
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.079
it light appearing out of the vacuum? Is that what
1046
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:41.039
that is? So that it's sort of like sono luminescence,
1047
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:44.400
where if you create a bubble underwater with a certain vibration,
1048
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.559
you'll create light. And I think maybe what's happening is
1049
00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:50.519
that the Higgs field. There's a vibration in the Higgs field,
1050
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:52.920
and that if it hits a certain frequency, it cracks
1051
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:57.639
and produces photons, and then those they basically it's like
1052
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.199
the photon is coming through the Higgs field. This is
1053
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:02.320
an old idea I had fifteen years ago. I don't
1054
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:04.079
know if it's actually real or not. And then that
1055
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.280
cools down that photose hotons can cool down into matter.
1056
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.760
But I don't that was just a rough kind of
1057
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:11.519
a sure if I.
1058
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.239
Mean the Higgs field is it is really like zero
1059
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.280
point energy, but like with tricycle wheels attached to it,
1060
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:18.239
you know, it's like they're like.
1061
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:21.199
The Higgs field explains like one percent of mass. You're like,
1062
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.519
but that doesn't really explain like anything then does it?
1063
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:26.320
But it is the idea that, yeah, there are these
1064
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:30.000
fields that we are living, this structured, this construct, you know,
1065
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:32.079
and so that would be open the door to zero
1066
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:34.920
point energy and open the door to this you know,
1067
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:38.480
space time, flexible solid that can be manipulated.
1068
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:44.039
But if if like you're saying, electricity is produced when
1069
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:47.280
you pull apart a positive and a negative node and
1070
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.400
you and it's trying to find itself, trying to pull
1071
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.920
come back together so it has its current point, then
1072
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:55.079
then a lightning maybe is that? And so the Earth's
1073
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:58.039
core would be like the positive or the negative charge,
1074
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.599
but it's both. I think it's both positive negative. It's
1075
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:03.599
an interesting there's but so what's the capacitor? Right?
1076
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:06.000
And remember when doctor U was saying, when we were
1077
00:48:06.079 --> 00:48:09.679
explaining why is gravity and electricity so like, why are
1078
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:13.159
they the strength so different? And doctor U took his magnets.
1079
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:14.760
He took a string of magnets and the string of
1080
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.360
magnets can pick up the balls, right, But once you start.
1081
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:20.360
Folding the magnets over, you're equalizing the charges.
1082
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:22.280
And what's happening now is that now all of a sudden,
1083
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:24.360
the magnet can't pick up any balls anymore because it
1084
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:25.320
got so much weaker.
1085
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:29.599
So the earth is also a magnet. And so why
1086
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:29.880
are we.
1087
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:32.440
Seeing the electricity, you know, strike down from the sky
1088
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:34.840
to the earth. Is that you're seeing this this vult,
1089
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.719
this potential difference. And as that potential difference builds up,
1090
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:41.239
eventually it gets so strong that zapp you know, theus,
1091
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:43.440
the minus and the positive decide that it can break
1092
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.960
through the insulator. What's the insulator? The insulator is the air.
1093
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:49.280
The air is the insulator. In this case, air is
1094
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:51.639
actually an insulator. We have to remember that even the
1095
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:52.599
air is a medium.
1096
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:54.760
So that's why we don't.
1097
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:56.800
See electric strikes. Well, that's why we do see the
1098
00:48:56.840 --> 00:49:01.800
electric strikes. And here's another one for you. The lightning
1099
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.199
is a plasma because what is a plasma. All a
1100
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:09.760
plasma is is a positive charge and a negative charge separated,
1101
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:13.360
ripping the electron off the atom leaven behind a positively
1102
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:17.440
charged ion and a negatively charged electron. So when you
1103
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:22.559
separate these out, are we just creating electricity directly when
1104
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:24.920
we do that? And this is why I always thought
1105
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:27.559
like the whole idea of fusion using plasma like it
1106
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:31.679
should be direct energy conversion, because literally electricity is just
1107
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:35.280
a separation of positive and minus charge. Now Here's one
1108
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:37.360
of one of the things I'll thought I'll leave you
1109
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:41.079
with on this is that the electric universe theory. One
1110
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:43.920
of their big questions is why is there a plasma
1111
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:47.559
corona around the sun. Shouldn't plasma if it's positive and
1112
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:50.840
negative charges separated, shouldn't it try to come back together
1113
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.719
and equalize. But if that was the case, then we
1114
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:56.320
shouldn't see this corona around the sun at all. There
1115
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:59.800
shouldn't be in a difference of positive negative charges being
1116
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:02.519
so separated from one another. So clearly I think there
1117
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:03.760
must be something else going on.
1118
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:06.320
I think it's that similar thing with what John Kansas
1119
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:08.400
learned in his experimentations in the lab, is that there's
1120
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:11.239
a frequency running through the sun that's lighting it up.
1121
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:13.800
It's causing it to give off the flame. That's what
1122
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.360
the corona is. It's exactly like his experiment. If you
1123
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:19.519
watch that video John Kansas, it's k n s us
1124
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:21.519
It's like a two thousand and seven video of him
1125
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.239
running a free He tells you what frequency it is
1126
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:27.239
to run it through saltwater get that hydrogen flame, that's
1127
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:27.679
my guess.
1128
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.000
Interesting, So so that.
1129
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:31.400
That would lead to me to believe that that the
1130
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.119
Sun then has the chemicals make up saltwater. Obviously there's
1131
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.119
hydrogen in there, there's sodium in there, there's a lot
1132
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:37.079
of chemicals in the sun.
1133
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:41.559
But it Yeah, and the Sun itself, you know, maybe
1134
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:43.920
it just reaches a certain critical mass and then I mean,
1135
00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:46.199
that's I think that the standard theory holds, right, You
1136
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:48.159
just have this huge amount of mass and then you
1137
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:50.679
have this critical event happen, and yes, then we get
1138
00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.800
ignition to occur, and then what's happening inside the sun.
1139
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:56.000
There's actually a lot of theories about that that, you know,
1140
00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:59.840
could be something related. Vibration planks constant is like what
1141
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:03.719
we imagine like the smallest possible vibrational.
1142
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:05.800
Scale that's out there. That could be a cut off point.
1143
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.039
That's where they uses the cut off point for calculating
1144
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:10.000
the zero point energy.
1145
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:12.199
Actually, so there could be a connection to that. The
1146
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.000
other idea is that maybe the Sun is.
1147
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.519
Like a lattice structure, like maybe it's more like a
1148
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:20.360
solid like when you get inside of it, maybe everything's
1149
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.159
so compact that it's almost like a crystal structure, and
1150
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:24.639
so then what could be happening would be more like
1151
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:26.880
pies of electricity, or like maybe you have like this
1152
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:30.960
vibrational like lattice structure inside the sun in the middle
1153
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:31.519
of it, which.
1154
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:33.599
I that's a cool idea that would make sense as
1155
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:37.159
to why a frequency would cause some sort of dissertation
1156
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.199
like that. I think that's the right word. I like
1157
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:39.519
the way it.
1158
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:41.880
Sounds because it's a resonance effect, right. It'd be like, oh,
1159
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:43.559
if you hit it with a frequency, then you're going
1160
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:45.679
to see some type of counter resonance effect, just like
1161
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:49.599
the photoelectric effect, which was like when we shot light
1162
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:53.440
at a metal, we did not see a significant difference
1163
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:55.400
when we increased the brightness of the light, but we
1164
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:58.360
saw a difference when we increased the wavelength when we
1165
00:51:58.519 --> 00:51:58.840
changed the.
1166
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:00.920
Color of the light that hits it. So it goes
1167
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:04.199
to show, Yeah, resonance effects are what really seems to
1168
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:06.559
explain the universe.
1169
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:10.599
I think that comes from how photons interfere with surface plasma.
1170
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:14.239
They seem to refract off of the surface plasma at
1171
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:16.880
the center of every plasma cloud and transfer information, so
1172
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:19.360
that I think that's how light transfers information to plasma
1173
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:23.199
and if you look deeply into surface plasma in the
1174
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:25.079
way that it changes the red and the blue shift
1175
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:27.679
of the plasma fields, but depending on how the light
1176
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:28.800
is interfering with it.
1177
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:35.000
So the plasma front, let's see, is there anything else
1178
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:37.480
I want to touch on on that front? So yeah,
1179
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.000
the other thing I was going to touch on is
1180
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:43.280
the dense Plasma focused paper that I discussed i think
1181
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:46.159
on the podcast that we did together, which was finding
1182
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:48.599
out that they were taking these plasmas and they were
1183
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:51.000
trying to turn them into drones or you know, trying
1184
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.880
to turn it into a propulsion concept very clearly in
1185
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:59.639
the papers. And so plasmoids have another name. They're called
1186
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:03.639
few reverse configuration FRC. This is actually what they're called
1187
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:07.440
by Helia in Fusion as well as TAE. They came
1188
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:09.480
up with a new name for them, which are apparently
1189
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:13.519
just terroidal plasmas that are being shot together at one another.
1190
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:19.440
These frcs, they have a distinct characteristic. They have a
1191
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:23.519
spheremac shape, so they're shaped like a plasma sphere, but
1192
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:26.440
they also have axial jets that shoot out of them
1193
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:28.840
because they're creating that plasmoid in the center. They have
1194
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:29.840
these axial jets.
1195
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:32.239
So at some point the Air Force, and I don't
1196
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:34.159
know who the first person was to think about it,
1197
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:36.440
but I'm pretty sure it's this guy Frank Mead, They
1198
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.599
were like, oh, well, if there's these axial jets, we
1199
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:41.400
can use this as propulsion and then we can have
1200
00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:44.400
now some type of thing that's flying around. I think
1201
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.880
that the thing that really took off was when they
1202
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:49.559
were able to turn into a drone. When you're like, okay, now,
1203
00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:52.039
like having a plasma propulsion is one thing. Great, you
1204
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:54.679
got plasma flying everywhere, but that doesn't sound very safe.
1205
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:56.000
You don't want to be I wouldn't want to be
1206
00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:58.760
near on a plasma a fusion reactor, you know, flying around.
1207
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:01.239
But one once you turn into a drone, now you
1208
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:03.800
have no problem. Now no human needs to be near
1209
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.960
it anymore. So this is where I personally my view,
1210
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.519
I'm curious about your opinion that I think they figured
1211
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:12.480
out these plasma drones and they've been flying them around
1212
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.679
for I don't know, ten twenty years, maybe longer, who knows,
1213
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:18.719
And that's why I don't know how far back it goes,
1214
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:21.840
and people are seeing them in the sky and they're going, Okay,
1215
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:25.000
there's a light in the sky flying around I basically
1216
00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:27.360
anybody who sees that's going to think it's an alien, right,
1217
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:31.360
And now they're going, oh, UFO alien. And then this
1218
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:34.679
seems to coincide in the last let's say ten years
1219
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:38.840
with this like emergence of balls of energy balls of
1220
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:41.079
light that everybody's talking about. Even Louel Zando wrote in
1221
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:43.119
his book about three balls of energy and three balls
1222
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.679
of light. So my opinion is that they governments figured
1223
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:47.920
this out. I don't know, Maybe they figured out from aliens.
1224
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:50.559
Maybe they didn't, not sure. What do you think about
1225
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:54.519
the idea that like humans could have figured this technology out?
1226
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:56.320
This is like the biggest point of contention in the
1227
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:59.599
UFO community right now is like could humans have figured
1228
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:01.840
this techniclogy? How could we have reverse engineered it? Or
1229
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.440
does it have to be aliens because you know, we
1230
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:07.039
can't understand this alien physics.
1231
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:11.159
Human all human. If we can figure out electricity, we
1232
00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:15.840
can figure out anything, dude. Any this is warping shit.
1233
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.280
It's I think a lot of it is talking plasma,
1234
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:21.519
which is a term they gave to this idea that
1235
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:25.320
you can triangulate or hit a point in time into
1236
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:28.360
space time time. It's funny. A point in time where
1237
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:30.480
you'll hit it with a bunch of like lasers or
1238
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:32.400
something creates a ball plasma and then you move that
1239
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:35.039
around like a laser pointer and then it flies and
1240
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:37.039
how does it move so fast? And it's like, well,
1241
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:39.000
it's because it's a it's an illusion that we're created.
1242
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.360
It's a ball of plasma. But then now you're talking
1243
00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:44.840
about plasma drones. I don't know. And now I'm just
1244
00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:48.039
thinking of actual autonomous balls of plasma that are using
1245
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:51.159
their own jets to maneuver, that are being maybe given
1246
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:53.440
information from the base station. But how would they be
1247
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:56.760
being produced either an onboard fusion. Then you're talking do
1248
00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:58.960
they have on board power or are they being created
1249
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:00.559
by this talking fusion?
1250
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:04.679
Yeah, I remember, like a year and a half ago,
1251
00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:06.639
I was thinking that they were creating them the same
1252
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:08.360
way that you just mentioned with the talking plasma, which
1253
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:10.800
I read which is honestly amazing. The talking plasma thing
1254
00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:12.480
they can do. I mean, the fact they get it
1255
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:15.679
to literally talk to you means they can modulate the
1256
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:17.960
frequency and the and the standing wave of it to
1257
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:21.360
like at will, like constantly it's a very impressive thing
1258
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:23.840
that they can do that. Then in my mind, they
1259
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:26.639
can make their plasma ball like whatever size they want
1260
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:28.800
and need it to be, and it wouldn't take that
1261
00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:30.440
much onboard fuel to make it happen.
1262
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:33.119
I think that though, that what like the plasma.
1263
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:35.239
Drone would look like would probably be like a tube
1264
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:37.239
with a bunch of stuff hooked up to it, and
1265
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:39.239
then once you like shoot it, and then it just
1266
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:41.519
spins up. And once it spins up, it's just it's
1267
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:43.400
a plasma ball now, and it just looks like a
1268
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:47.639
plasma ball until it's turned off. And but I a
1269
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:50.000
lot of people believe that these orbs can be like
1270
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:53.400
shot out of like a cannon, like you shoot a
1271
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:56.480
plasma can like a plasma sphere out of a cannon,
1272
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:59.000
and now it's just like a self contained structure and
1273
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:02.480
it's self contained until it dissipates, which it's it's stabilized
1274
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:04.320
so it won't dissipate it or it has like a
1275
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.559
very long life span. And then this would be the
1276
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:09.679
idea of like the ether and simatics, where like you've
1277
00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:12.880
created this geometric shape where it's like a perfect geometric
1278
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.679
shape that just doesn't lose any energy and is able to.
1279
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:16.360
Keep its form.
1280
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:18.960
I kind of struggle with that because, like especially in
1281
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:20.840
like them a Streets of Zero videos, these things are
1282
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:22.679
clearly moving with some intelligent control.
1283
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:25.039
It's not just oh, shoot it over that way, right,
1284
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:28.159
it's like homing in on things and locking in. But
1285
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:29.079
I don't know, what do you think?
1286
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:33.559
Well, while you were talking about shooting a plasma drone,
1287
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:36.239
as that would be your bullet would be the drone itself.
1288
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:38.679
I'm thinking of like a coil, just like the rifling
1289
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:41.599
we were talking about. Maybe it would be a series
1290
00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:44.639
of rings, but it would give that that forward momentum
1291
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:48.000
of spin that would allow for some sort of energy
1292
00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:51.360
propagation that could maybe blow it up like a plasma
1293
00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:54.760
balloon for the for the you know excerpt for the
1294
00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:57.360
for the journey that it has to go to until
1295
00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:01.079
it either dissipates or hits its target. Maybe maybe the
1296
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:03.239
idea that because I was yeah, the idea that you
1297
00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:05.480
would use that as the bullet itself and not the
1298
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:06.440
gun is pretty cool.
1299
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.239
Yeah, yeah, and that's something I had never really thought of.
1300
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:13.079
But that Okay, you've got these plasma bullets, and now
1301
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:14.719
you might be able to use them for multi things
1302
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:18.760
as well. I mean they probably originated as like you said,
1303
00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:24.920
like spoofing mechanisms, right, because some of these pilots when
1304
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:27.840
they see these UFOs, they don't see them on radar,
1305
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:30.000
but then they'll see them like briefly show up. And
1306
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:31.480
this is I think where some of this idea of
1307
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:35.920
always this spoofy mechanism. Well, the plasma actually will reflect radar,
1308
00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:37.880
but if you were to change the wavelength of the
1309
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:40.440
plasma for a brief second, it may actually be it
1310
00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:42.039
may show up, so it could look like it's like
1311
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:45.400
a ghost out there. But then you can turn it
1312
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:48.480
like plasma itself is a physical phenomenon. It's not just
1313
00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:51.519
an illusion, right, It's not necessarily just a hologram. So
1314
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:53.480
if you can turn it into that, now you've turned
1315
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:58.440
into a weapon. Because once again, what is electricity. Electricity
1316
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:00.679
is just a separation of positive is charged.
1317
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:02.719
So if you can control that, if you can spin
1318
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:04.960
that up into a ball plasma that can shoot around,
1319
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:07.679
now you've got a literally lightning ball like you're zeus
1320
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:10.039
now like shooting lightning nut battle on people.
1321
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:12.199
If it's like if it's just like what we're talking
1322
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:14.360
about electricity, you're pulling apart the positive and the negative,
1323
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:17.440
so gas either you're heating it up it's or you're
1324
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:21.000
destroying the You're removing the pressure, so the gas expands faster.
1325
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:23.639
It'll be easier to get it hotter, it'll be easier
1326
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:26.320
to pull the proton and the electron away from it
1327
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:29.920
because it's less pressure or getting it hotter. So if
1328
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:32.199
you can in it within like the bullet of this
1329
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:35.920
plasma torsion, if you can reduce the pressure or enhance
1330
00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:38.280
the temperature, you might be able to produce an electrical
1331
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:41.280
charge that way.
1332
00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:44.199
And you know what the thing was that took off.
1333
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:46.280
It was the lasers is what allowed this to all
1334
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:46.800
take off.
1335
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:52.159
When you even look at Helium's field re verse configuration reactor,
1336
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:55.679
they shoot these plasmoids at each other's smok rings of
1337
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:59.239
plasma and then they shoot these like neutral laser beam injectors.
1338
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.480
And the thing that allowed this all take off was
1339
01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:03.480
that they got these lasers to be super powerful. This
1340
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:07.239
chirped pulse amplification Nobel Prize twenty seventeen.
1341
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:09.039
That's where they found these.
1342
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:10.800
They were able to come up with these atto second
1343
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:14.639
lasers because the smaller the time frame that you fit
1344
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:17.079
the energy into the more the energy density goes up.
1345
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:20.559
It's not just the region in the space that you
1346
01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:23.559
want small, but the time region. The time of the
1347
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:26.519
laser gets smaller, the pulse gets smaller, the energy density
1348
01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:27.360
goes up, and.
1349
01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:30.280
That's how they're able to get these plasmas to reach
1350
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:33.280
these super high temperatures supposedly. So it wouldn't surprise me
1351
01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:37.440
if like the military had this laser technology that allowed
1352
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:39.400
plasma and all this stuff to happen, and then of
1353
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:42.440
course they just classified it because it's all weapons related
1354
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:43.880
related nukes.
1355
01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:46.400
You know, I would have classified it if I built
1356
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:47.800
it in the if I was working for the government
1357
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:49.360
and built that, I'd be like, all right, well for now,
1358
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:51.320
because they're probably all like airing on the side of caution.
1359
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:55.000
And then if the Chinese are like, we have it,
1360
01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:56.559
then we'll be like, well we have it too. I
1361
01:00:56.639 --> 01:01:00.480
guess you know, nobody wants to say it first, yeah.
1362
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:02.239
We had that, like they're Chinese is gonna be like
1363
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:04.199
we figured out whorp technology trumps something like we figured
1364
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:07.800
it out ten years ago. Sorry, you know, And you know,
1365
01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:12.000
if you were like a black project engineer, you worked
1366
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:15.280
on this, like you know, magic technology alien technology.
1367
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:16.199
Call it whatever you want to call it. Would you
1368
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:17.880
come out as a whistleblower?
1369
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:19.000
You know?
1370
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:20.199
Yeah? Why are we not?
1371
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:23.360
Not? No? Because that that it's it's it's like life,
1372
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:25.679
and it's like the Manhattan Project. I wouldn't have I
1373
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:27.320
wouldn't have blowed the whistle on that either if I
1374
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:29.039
was working for that. I believe in the ethos of
1375
01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:31.800
the United States free speech, gun rights, property rights. I
1376
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:33.440
want to do whatever I can to uphold that. If
1377
01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:35.440
it means giving us the best military on the planet,
1378
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:39.360
giving us an edge, you know, within the AI fusion race,
1379
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:39.800
I'm down.
1380
01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:43.039
Yeah, you know what I mean. I agree the same way.
1381
01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:44.519
That's why it makes this so hard. Is it like
1382
01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:46.960
I don't even like doing this. But at the same time,
1383
01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:50.840
it's like people deserve to know about this science, about
1384
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:51.400
the technology.
1385
01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:53.320
That's why the first question is like where is the
1386
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:56.199
line between this? Because I also want us to have
1387
01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:58.760
this technology. I want America to be the number one country.
1388
01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:01.719
But I also like, in the view of this, you're like, Okay,
1389
01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:06.000
we've got warp drive technology, maybe wormhole technology, gravy manipulation,
1390
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:11.599
free energy technology. You know, I wonder, you know, how
1391
01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:13.519
we have to be able to get some of this
1392
01:02:13.719 --> 01:02:16.239
to the public people, you know, I mean, at some
1393
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:18.719
point you can't hide this forever.
1394
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:23.519
Yeah, relying relying on the government, or just because they're
1395
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:25.440
deep state and have access to the tech when they
1396
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:27.000
were kids and now they get to learn about it
1397
01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:28.719
and their dads have money and now they have money.
1398
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:31.960
Just because they have it doesn't mean that's the best setup.
1399
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:33.840
It might be better for the populace to have it.
1400
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:36.599
So and that's the big catch twenty or that. I
1401
01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:37.920
don't know if it's a catch twenty two, but that's
1402
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:39.679
a big struggle that we're in. Because I agree with you,
1403
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:41.719
I would I would never go whistleblower either. If I
1404
01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:43.760
was in Black Project, I wouldn't even have a social
1405
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:45.880
media account. I wouldn't do any of this stuff at all,
1406
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:49.440
because I do think it harms national security. And I
1407
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:53.360
think that if certain countries, certain cultures have access to
1408
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:56.800
this technology, I think the planet's totally definitely doomed, no question.
1409
01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:00.800
But you know, it's a moral conundrum because we are
1410
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.000
talking about the ability to kind of end poverty. The
1411
01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:07.519
big thing for me is this, if America has this technology,
1412
01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:10.239
why are we not Why we have so many homeless people.
1413
01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:12.440
Why we have so much struggling on this plan. Why
1414
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:15.639
does our country not look like ancient Rome with like
1415
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:21.480
you know, colosseums and you know the Renaissance everywhere. You
1416
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:23.159
know that that to me is the struggle, is that
1417
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:25.039
I think that at a minimum, we should be able
1418
01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:27.519
to leverage the fact that we have magical technology.
1419
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:31.400
You know. I think it's because well, one, they want
1420
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:33.719
to keep it secret. That's the main reason too, is
1421
01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:37.320
because we don't have the batteries yet to capacitate the power,
1422
01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:39.840
Like we can't run well, we have Tesla power walls.
1423
01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:43.760
We're getting there, but like really really good batteries that
1424
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:45.679
you can charge once and then they run your house
1425
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:48.519
for sixty days or six hundred years or whatever. You know. Like,
1426
01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:50.800
once we can build the batteries that can super like
1427
01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:54.519
super capacitor batteries you know, graphium, cadmium, whatever the hell
1428
01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:57.000
materials we're going to be using, probably crazy meta material
1429
01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:02.079
cermats and stuff, then I think the fewion will be like, uh,
1430
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:05.719
what's the word functional, like for the common man once
1431
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:07.119
they can store the battery, because then you won't have
1432
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:08.880
to give them the fusion reactor. They'll just be able
1433
01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:12.039
to tap it in, get the power and then benefit.
1434
01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:15.440
See you're thinking about it pragmatically, like they're never gonna
1435
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:17.280
give us a fusion reactor. We're never gonna get a
1436
01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:19.079
portable fusion reactor. Is then you could just turn it
1437
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:21.159
on blow somebody up. But I could see they're gonna
1438
01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:22.880
give you a tap, right, They're gonna say here, you
1439
01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:25.159
can tap into the energy and then you can fill
1440
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:27.519
up your local reserve. But it's not gonna be enough
1441
01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:30.719
to annihilate the planet. You know, something like that where
1442
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:32.480
I think it was how putoff even talking about this,
1443
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:35.719
where it's almost as evil as, maybe even more evil
1444
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:38.679
than how they portrayed in the movies. Where he's like, guys,
1445
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:41.320
zero point energy is real, it's coming out. This is
1446
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:45.199
a high risk venture, but its high reward. And he's like, basically,
1447
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:47.760
everybody knows we can't just give everybody a you know,
1448
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:49.960
a zero point energy device in their home. The way
1449
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:53.239
to do it is like when your old generators have
1450
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:55.400
to be replaced, just throw the old ones out and
1451
01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:59.199
we'll give you new, upgraded reactors and no it we'll
1452
01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:01.400
just never have to explain where that energy is coming from. Right,
1453
01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:03.719
And well, if you save some money on it. Well,
1454
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:05.880
you don't necessarily have to pass that savings on to
1455
01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:08.360
the consumer, right, how does the consumer you even know
1456
01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:11.679
how much you're you know how much it costs you
1457
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:14.239
to produce the energy. That's what I think is really
1458
01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:16.199
going on. And that's why I look at companies like
1459
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:19.199
Heli in Fusion and I'm like, I've identified them as
1460
01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:21.480
like this is a company that the DOE is backing
1461
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:23.920
and stuff. And then I go, well, why is Peter
1462
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:26.639
Teel like one of the major investors in this and
1463
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:28.320
he's connected to the CIA, and.
1464
01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:33.760
Oh yeah Bolenteer too, that's a good sign for Fusion, Okay, yeah, yeah.
1465
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:35.880
And this is why I tell people like, look, this
1466
01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:40.000
isn't stock advice, but when Helian Fusion goes IPO, just
1467
01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:42.440
go look at Pollenteer stock price and what's happened to
1468
01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:44.920
them as well? You know, It's like it feels like
1469
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:47.800
some of these companies are being kind of selected is
1470
01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:51.119
because they know or they have the right connections. And
1471
01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:53.760
to kind of like counter a point that Elon Musk made.
1472
01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:56.159
Elon's like, why don't they compete with me? Well, just
1473
01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:58.440
like you said before about like why don't they reveal
1474
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:01.320
this technology, lets happen, because then would be the technology, right,
1475
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:04.079
So that's why they can't compete with it. But they
1476
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:07.480
also don't care about being four hundred five hundred billion dollar,
1477
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:10.559
you know, richest people in the world. Give me one
1478
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:11.679
billion dollars and I'm good.
1479
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:12.400
I'll go disappear.
1480
01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:14.880
You never have to know my name, right, So that's
1481
01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:16.960
the way it seems to work behind the scenes. But
1482
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.159
if people pay attention, I mean, I think you can
1483
01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:19.800
see it happening.
1484
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:21.800
So you're saying Elon's like, why won't they compete with
1485
01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:24.639
my space program? Basically is where he's at. And then
1486
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:27.320
and they're but secretly building drones that can go underwater
1487
01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:29.079
and fly into space exactly.
1488
01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:32.199
Yeah, and I don't know the space part's weird, Like
1489
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:34.079
I want to broach this topic with you a little
1490
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:37.960
bit too. That, Uh, the more I research these plasma
1491
01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:40.800
drones and stuff, I'm going like, did he even operate
1492
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:43.880
in outer space? Because I think they're using something called
1493
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:46.800
an air breathing system magneto hydrodynamic system, which means they're
1494
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:49.559
basically using either the air or the water is either
1495
01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:51.719
a fuel source or is like a catalyst and the
1496
01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:55.360
reaction so they don't have to have that stuff on board. Well,
1497
01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:57.440
outer space doesn't have nearly as much as like the
1498
01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:00.880
air or like water. So there's two ways to look
1499
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:02.480
at One would be that like, you don't need that
1500
01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:05.159
much stuff in outer space because you're just like floating
1501
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:07.679
through the air, floating through space, right. But the other
1502
01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:09.280
view of it is, well, even if you lose like
1503
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:12.559
a tiny bit of your matter your energy, then over
1504
01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:15.039
a long distance you're gonna lose everything, but before you
1505
01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:18.280
get there, right, So I don't know if they can
1506
01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:18.880
really be used.
1507
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:21.480
It sounds like a local defense tool, Like I think
1508
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:23.559
it makes sense for planets to have local defense drones
1509
01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:27.159
that are just plasma orbiting and protecting the atmosphere. That
1510
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:27.760
makes sense.
1511
01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:29.880
That's what I thought those new Jersey drones were.
1512
01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:31.760
Actually I was on with Clint Russell, you know him, right,
1513
01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:34.920
That was he and I did like really great livestream
1514
01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:36.679
where we were talking about that new Jersey drone thing
1515
01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:38.920
back in December, and I was like, I think they're
1516
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:41.480
like a defense mechanism, Like what if they're just drones
1517
01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:43.920
sit around their defense network, where like if someone shoots
1518
01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:46.239
a hypersonic at us, our drones just intercept it.
1519
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:49.159
And like wormhole it to the sun or something.
1520
01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:51.360
Or like an asteroid or something that drones.
1521
01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:54.480
To absolutely right, like the Opofos asteroid that I think
1522
01:07:54.599 --> 01:07:57.159
is like twenty twenty nine or something like that. I'm
1523
01:07:57.199 --> 01:07:59.079
not afraid of that because we got plasma drones that
1524
01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:02.039
are just flying around that can you know, intercept stuff
1525
01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:03.519
anywhere that they that we need to.
1526
01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:05.440
But this means too.
1527
01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:07.840
This is something that I learned from old anime shows
1528
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:10.280
is that the smartest anime shows would be like the
1529
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:13.400
ones where the guys like trying to understand the villain
1530
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:15.320
and like what his power is and like what his
1531
01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:18.399
weakness is in his power. That's how when I look
1532
01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:21.119
at like the teleportation technology, I was like, what are
1533
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:23.000
the limits to this? Turns out there's a lot of
1534
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:25.239
limits to it. It's not just like oh I can
1535
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:27.399
just zapp and just now I'm on the moon and
1536
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:29.960
now I'm back. Turns out it's like a one way
1537
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:33.560
trip kind of situation, like you zapp here and now
1538
01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:35.159
you're over here, but now you have to do it
1539
01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:37.479
again if you want to go you know somewhere else.
1540
01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:40.000
You know where I'm at with with wormholes, Maybe you
1541
01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:42.479
have more to say is charged black holes. I'm not
1542
01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:44.319
sure if you're familiar with the charged black hole. It's
1543
01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:46.520
different than a regular black hole. It's like rotating, and
1544
01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:48.560
I think it's been woken up. I think it's a
1545
01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:52.319
teleportation mechanism. If you travel through a charged black hole,
1546
01:08:52.399 --> 01:08:55.439
it will super accelerate you through that singularity. You'll go
1547
01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:58.359
through so tight and be shot out so fast. Afterwards,
1548
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:01.399
you'll super accelerate towards it's the first star you hit,
1549
01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:03.680
and then it'll slow you down and you'll stop in
1550
01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:06.039
front of it. And I think that's literally people will
1551
01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:08.760
aim towards stars between they'll put the charge black hole
1552
01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:11.119
between them and the star and they'll go through it,
1553
01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:13.239
and that will teleport them to the star. And that
1554
01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:18.000
we can actually charge our black hole, Sagittarius B, I
1555
01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:19.640
think is at the center of our galaxy. We have
1556
01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:21.520
a black hole, but it's not charged up yet, So
1557
01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:23.119
I think we can charge that thing and use it
1558
01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:27.479
as a teleportation mechanism or whatever. It's a super accelerator
1559
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:30.760
basically not really teleporting, but it's at that speed, you know,
1560
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:32.760
it's hard to tell the difference. Yeah.
1561
01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:36.359
Leonard Suskin and Juan Melosina they believe that the black
1562
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:40.479
holes are quantum entangled. But there's an interesting theory that
1563
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:42.760
I hadn't seen before I read it yesterday, which was
1564
01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:46.479
that what if the black hole like doesn't have perfect
1565
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:48.800
entanglebl the difference between a black hole and a wormhole
1566
01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:51.680
would be when you create a wormhole, like I'm zapping
1567
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:55.239
like you know, this airplane here and it's reappearing over here.
1568
01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:58.479
But what if when the black hole pulls in matter,
1569
01:09:58.720 --> 01:10:00.760
it like rips it out, shoots it out like a
1570
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:06.000
sprinkler like, so it's like creating like multiple entanglements like,
1571
01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:08.800
but it's like they're not altogether anymore at that point.
1572
01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:11.159
And what if that's the difference in that really a
1573
01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:13.560
worm holes like a black hole, but it's like a stabilized,
1574
01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:16.199
temporary black hole like this temporary rip you make, whereas
1575
01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:18.720
a black hole is like this huge amount of mass
1576
01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:22.279
that's just like anything comes in has wept in, shreded pieces.
1577
01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:26.600
We have scientific community located any wormholes yet like.
1578
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:29.279
Well, I don't know how we would even do that.
1579
01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:31.039
That's the problem because like even if you see a
1580
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.640
black hole like okay, well where's it coming out? Because
1581
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:35.560
what we what have we learned from entanglement.
1582
01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:38.159
It could be anywhere. It could be like literally anywhere.
1583
01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:41.520
So I think we probably will find some because I
1584
01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:43.800
personally think that these wormholes and black holes exist. But
1585
01:10:44.039 --> 01:10:48.359
the question is are they cosmological phenomenon other than black
1586
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:52.399
holes or are they purely like a laboratory produced phenomenon.
1587
01:10:52.720 --> 01:10:56.000
Right, the wormhole? What is it? Exactly? What's the difference
1588
01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:57.560
between a worm like? What is do you know what
1589
01:10:57.680 --> 01:11:00.199
the theoretical working definition of a wormhole is?
1590
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:02.760
Yeah, it's just a bridge between two points in space
1591
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:07.239
and time. And so you obviously really we have to
1592
01:11:07.319 --> 01:11:10.800
only imagine it metaphysically because we can't see an extra dimension.
1593
01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:14.199
But usually they represent it as like two flat surfaces
1594
01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:17.600
and then a tunnel between the two surfaces like this, right,
1595
01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:22.279
And so it's this conceptual view that, like I was
1596
01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:25.840
saying before, is that that space time is flat. Like
1597
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:28.399
I think it's been proven that space time is actually flat.
1598
01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:30.600
We don't really agree it, and flat earthers are probably
1599
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:32.880
gonna have a field day with this, but space time
1600
01:11:32.960 --> 01:11:34.920
is flat, we just don't perceive it as flat. And
1601
01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:36.960
if it's flat, then you can just bend it like this.
1602
01:11:37.159 --> 01:11:40.199
And now the points that were previously not connected are connected.
1603
01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:42.520
Now that seems super weird to us because that's not
1604
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:46.319
how we see observe reality around us. But that's because
1605
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:49.199
all of space time around us is an equilibrium. It's
1606
01:11:49.239 --> 01:11:52.600
all perfectly equilibrium. But if we rip that out of equilibrium,
1607
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:54.279
then we start to see these weird effects.
1608
01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:57.560
But if it's true, if wormholes are real, then I
1609
01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:00.079
think it proves Ben Riches right, that all point in
1610
01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:03.000
space and time are actually really connected. We just don't.
1611
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:04.800
We don't perceive them as being connected.
1612
01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:07.479
And like motion and time and space and speed and
1613
01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:09.840
all that. If you're in deep space with no reference
1614
01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:12.039
point and it's black everywhere all around you, if you
1615
01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:14.640
start going faster, you won't know it because there's no
1616
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:19.960
there's no perceptual inertia. I don't even think there's inertia
1617
01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:23.039
if there's no relative space. I don't think that's I mean,
1618
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:26.279
they're like, yeah, good, there is technically inertia, but you
1619
01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:29.600
wouldn't perceive it so like, and then your distance would
1620
01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:32.000
be shorter, but you wouldn't have realized it was because
1621
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:33.239
you were going faster and didn't know it.
1622
01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:36.640
Yeah, it turns out like a lot of this stuff
1623
01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:41.119
is illusion the illusion like cloaking or the illusion of distance,
1624
01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:44.439
or when something gets smaller when it gets further away. Like,
1625
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:48.760
it turns out these effects, while they seem illusionary, they're
1626
01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:51.159
also just physically real as well. So like if you
1627
01:12:51.319 --> 01:12:55.159
contract or expand space because of relativity, you actually do
1628
01:12:55.439 --> 01:12:58.359
change physical properties. One of the things that was being
1629
01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:01.479
talked about, I think I Richard ban Durich, he was, uh,
1630
01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:03.840
he was making ways because he was talking about like
1631
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:06.399
alien meta materials or something like that. I don't know
1632
01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:08.560
about all his alien meta material claims, but he knows
1633
01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:12.039
about electromagnetism and gravity, and he was saying that, well,
1634
01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:15.960
if you have length contraction or length expansion from general
1635
01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:19.319
relativity from you know, things moving at relative speeds, then
1636
01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:22.800
you can have current actually increased from the perception of current.
1637
01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:25.760
Like if I'm looking at an object, the electricity being
1638
01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:28.159
formed will look like it's going up if you have
1639
01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:31.600
length contraction or expansion happening. And he explains this from
1640
01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:35.399
the perception of the electrons, and you're like, wow, okay, yeah,
1641
01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:38.800
so general relativity actually starts to get really weird. And
1642
01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:41.600
this could even explain like why do we have it,
1643
01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:45.279
Like imagine this cube of space time. Like, if I
1644
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:49.239
squeeze this cube of space time, what's gonna happen. What
1645
01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:51.760
I would imagine is whatever's inside this cube of space
1646
01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:53.079
time is gonna get pushed out.
1647
01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:54.800
It's gonna get pushed out. Squeeze that.
1648
01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:57.239
So if I have contraction of space time, what do
1649
01:13:57.319 --> 01:13:59.199
I think should be happening, Well, I think energy should
1650
01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:01.760
be getting shot out, probably in the form of photons.
1651
01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:04.920
So personally, that's how how my my view of the
1652
01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:07.000
universe is. I think the zero point energy is filled
1653
01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:10.399
with this invisible energy. That's an equilibrium I and if
1654
01:14:10.439 --> 01:14:12.199
you squeeze it, you get light.
1655
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:16.000
Oh, well, that's son iluminescence. Then I guess you're you're
1656
01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:19.600
squeezing on the bubble underwater. You're creating a vacuum. Well
1657
01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:21.840
you're you're what is You're running a vibration through and
1658
01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:24.319
creating a bubble, which then the pressure, the squeezing of
1659
01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:27.039
the pressure, releases a photone.
1660
01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:30.439
So sonal luminescence. You take water and you just shoot
1661
01:14:30.479 --> 01:14:33.760
the sound, Uh, create a standing wave in the middle
1662
01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:37.079
of your sound of your water, and the sound the
1663
01:14:37.159 --> 01:14:40.119
sound will actually create light. Light actually gets formed, and
1664
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:44.079
it's because it creates a cavitation and implosive effect that
1665
01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:47.960
produces light. Science struggles to understand why that's the case,
1666
01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.880
and why how there could be so much energy that
1667
01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:54.159
light is being released while like the glass that's containing
1668
01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:56.399
the water doesn't break, or why the water doesn't boil.
1669
01:14:56.720 --> 01:14:57.920
Why does the water not boil.
1670
01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:01.279
You've got you've got light being produced in the middle
1671
01:15:01.279 --> 01:15:04.359
of this, but the water's not boiling. Some people wonder
1672
01:15:04.479 --> 01:15:08.640
is fusion happening in sono luminescence? And so I think
1673
01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:10.720
that the reason why I love those experiments is that
1674
01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:12.560
when I was digging through this, digging through the science,
1675
01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:14.079
trying to figure out, like how are they are they
1676
01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:18.119
really hiding gravity whatever, you find all these experiments that
1677
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:24.319
like have no like palatable conventional explanation. And that's why,
1678
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:26.399
I mean, part of the reason why I'm absolutely convinced
1679
01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:28.159
that all this science is real is that when you
1680
01:15:28.199 --> 01:15:30.319
look at the underlying thread of it, you find out
1681
01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:33.199
that it goes back to Tesla, it goes back to
1682
01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:35.960
Maxwell's original equations before.
1683
01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:36.600
They got reduced.
1684
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:39.399
Is we threw out this scalar potential because we didn't
1685
01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:41.319
see it, We didn't see it out there, kind of
1686
01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:43.319
like how we don't see wormholes out there, but that
1687
01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:45.600
doesn't mean they're not real. The math says that they
1688
01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:49.039
should exist. Sure, so the scaler potential is real too.
1689
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:51.560
Maybe we just didn't we didn't, you know, find the
1690
01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:53.680
right effect to see it. Maybe it's mostly a lab
1691
01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:54.279
produced effect.
1692
01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:57.239
And this is what the effect of what exactly that
1693
01:15:57.319 --> 01:15:57.760
we're within.
1694
01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:01.279
Yeah, the scalar potentials like the affe of the medium itself,
1695
01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:04.720
so like the effect of and I believe it can be.
1696
01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:08.000
I believe the scaler potential gets seen more when you pull,
1697
01:16:08.159 --> 01:16:10.000
like you create an electric system and you shoot the
1698
01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:14.640
voltage up super super high, like above thirty fifty thousand volts.
1699
01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:18.119
Is now that scalar potential that was really really tiny before,
1700
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:21.239
now you can actually see measurable effects related to it.
1701
01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:23.399
And a common example that as I was up hiking
1702
01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:25.000
up in the clouds, I was up in the mountains,
1703
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:26.640
I was it was foggy. I didn't know it was
1704
01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:28.840
foggy because I was up there. It just looked normal.
1705
01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:31.520
And I was walking. I'm like, why am I dripping
1706
01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:33.880
with sweat? Literally as if I'd been in the pool
1707
01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:36.279
swimming in my clothing. I was dripping. My friend was
1708
01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:39.279
like you're dripping like drip drip, drip drip like why
1709
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:43.319
because the medium I was in imperceivably wet. I didn't
1710
01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:45.199
know because I was inside of it, I couldn't see it.
1711
01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:48.199
Exactly the same kind of thing with fit with space time.
1712
01:16:48.199 --> 01:16:50.760
There's so much potential energy in this medium that we
1713
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:51.800
don't perceive because.
1714
01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:55.000
We're in it, and that's what allows for really all
1715
01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:58.159
this science to be possible, of free energy, of over unity,
1716
01:16:58.239 --> 01:17:00.760
of fusion. I think that if they're wasn't a medium,
1717
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:03.000
why we wouldn't even be digging it. We wouldn't even
1718
01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:04.800
trying to do fusion. I don't think fusion would be
1719
01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:07.279
possible if there wasn't a medium of energy. I mean,
1720
01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:11.760
you'd have to be pumping in the you know, all
1721
01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:14.680
your fuel source conventionally, which I don't know how that
1722
01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:17.479
could ever achieve over unity from a conceptual viewpoint if
1723
01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:21.600
space is empty, but you know, maybe we can do
1724
01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:22.119
it that way.
1725
01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:25.800
So yeah, oh, I just I appreciate that you talked
1726
01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:30.000
about distance contracting and expanding distance and that producing an
1727
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:33.159
electrical charge, or even the perception of expanding and contracting
1728
01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:35.680
distance that could produce an electrical charge. I'm going to
1729
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:37.319
sleep on that one. That's really right.
1730
01:17:37.399 --> 01:17:40.840
You definitely want to check out the Paul Thibodeau graphing
1731
01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:44.800
thermal thing, which is really cool because essentially what he's
1732
01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:49.600
created is a battery that the batteries default state is
1733
01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:50.319
not zero.
1734
01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:52.560
The batteries default state is you know.
1735
01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:55.319
Pick a voltage number, it doesn't matter, right, because what
1736
01:17:55.439 --> 01:17:57.359
that would mean is that you can sap energy off
1737
01:17:57.399 --> 01:17:59.279
of it and it always tries to go back to
1738
01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:00.800
that equilibrium state.
1739
01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:04.840
Yeah, how crazy is that? Like a battery, chadgery battery.
1740
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:08.880
Nice job, Paul Thibodeaux. Yeah, I saw that one.
1741
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:10.880
I'm just like, wow, that was a type of And
1742
01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:12.840
so this is why I try to tell people, like
1743
01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:16.960
there's so many different conceptual viewpoints of free energy devices.
1744
01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:18.880
One of them is just a battery that just never
1745
01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:22.720
runs out. And so he's created an asymmetrical system that
1746
01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:26.960
it's equilibrium is not zero. And of course every physicist
1747
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:28.760
that was in the presentation is going, how is this
1748
01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:32.239
How is this not violating the laws of thermodynamics? And
1749
01:18:32.319 --> 01:18:34.920
he says as well, because it's basically just harnessing Brownie
1750
01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:37.520
in motion from the thermal ambient temperature. Like it if
1751
01:18:37.560 --> 01:18:39.960
you do the equations, the math shows that should work.
1752
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:42.680
They built the microchip. Microchip shows that it works.
1753
01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:44.319
What else do you want? Right?
1754
01:18:44.359 --> 01:18:47.600
And they've also they created nuclear batteries. They were doing
1755
01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:49.760
with like a small they have like nuclear waste. They
1756
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:52.239
put in glass or diamond or something and it produces
1757
01:18:52.600 --> 01:18:54.359
exactly the same kind of piezo electric.
1758
01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:54.800
You know.
1759
01:18:55.079 --> 01:18:57.399
That's the stuff where I think you're talking about where
1760
01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:00.399
they're using the word nuclear, I think a little everly,
1761
01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:03.159
where like I think they're like doing transmutation and they're
1762
01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:05.439
just been like, yeah, it's just nuclear.
1763
01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:07.479
You know, because technically it is. Technically it is nuclear.
1764
01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:09.960
But you're like, how are you doing it? How efficiently
1765
01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:10.920
are you doing it? Right?
1766
01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:13.479
Like, because you could theoretically be doing this super efficiently,
1767
01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:15.800
making like tons of money and just producing stuff that
1768
01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:17.800
would people would be saying is violating you know, the
1769
01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:21.359
laws of physics, vitalized laws dermodynamics. But yeah, I think
1770
01:19:21.399 --> 01:19:23.000
that there's doing it and they're doing it quietly, and
1771
01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:26.439
then they've got contracts with other government or other entities.
1772
01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:30.560
But breakoff. They'll break off like that little one for
1773
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:32.319
the public and be like, hey, look what we figured out.
1774
01:19:32.359 --> 01:19:34.560
You can you can maybe charge your iPhone with this.
1775
01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:37.000
Exactly.
1776
01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:39.239
And now, you know, when we talk about the companies,
1777
01:19:39.239 --> 01:19:40.800
I think I know where your politics are. You think
1778
01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:43.079
you're kind of more libertarian, kind of like I am,
1779
01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:46.800
you know, free speech, uh, freedom of you know, expression,
1780
01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:51.560
et cetera. You know, recently the United States took control
1781
01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:54.560
part of Intel because I think they're a micro chip manufacturer.
1782
01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:56.119
I think a lot of what I've found out about
1783
01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:58.760
this is like we're well past the days of like
1784
01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:01.680
magnetic motors and these like free energy devices people were
1785
01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:03.720
making that were like as big as a room. Now
1786
01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:05.199
we're to the point of like people are making free
1787
01:20:05.279 --> 01:20:06.920
energy devices on little microchips.
1788
01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:09.359
So microchips are the future.
1789
01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:13.720
There was actually somebody floating today the idea of Locking
1790
01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:18.159
Martin being potentially nationalized as well. Apparently ninety seven percent
1791
01:20:18.239 --> 01:20:20.960
of their revenue comes from the government. I didn't even
1792
01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:23.680
know that about Locking Martin until today. So where do
1793
01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:27.520
you stand on this, like, you know, nationalization of companies
1794
01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:30.439
under national you know, security or national defense. I mean,
1795
01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:33.039
if the technology is that powerful, if we have this
1796
01:20:33.159 --> 01:20:36.079
crazy you know, alien technology zero pint any tesla technology,
1797
01:20:36.600 --> 01:20:39.000
and is it right to nationalize them or is free
1798
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:40.960
market went over this is.
1799
01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:43.119
I'm so glad you. I just posted this on Twitter
1800
01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:45.199
before we went live, and that it's that in the
1801
01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:49.000
twentieth century was basically the war between fascism and communism,
1802
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:51.399
and it was one or the other, pick aside, and
1803
01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:55.840
the Western powers chose fascism with the Federal Reserve and FDR,
1804
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:58.560
and it was instead. It wasn't like Mussolini fascism. It
1805
01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:02.000
wasn't that kind of violent kicking doors in Hitler fascism.
1806
01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:05.359
It was British fascism. It was peaceful fascism, but it
1807
01:21:05.439 --> 01:21:08.439
was better than communism, and it fascism won. And we
1808
01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:10.479
live in a fascist system where our government can print
1809
01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:15.119
fake money and does so many businesses with corporations behind
1810
01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:19.479
the scenes that is indicative of a fascist behavioral but
1811
01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:21.560
not on paper. They don't own any of the companies
1812
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:24.199
because that would be fascist. Well, anyway, Trump just did
1813
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:27.920
it blatantly in public for the first time. He's showing
1814
01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:31.439
our fascist nature by buying using government funds my money
1815
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:35.119
to print fake money to buy He basically made my
1816
01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:37.880
money worthless to print to buy a company. And now
1817
01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:42.600
they're talking about going full communist and owning businesses. It's insane.
1818
01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:46.600
Like we at least need a visage of a free economy.
1819
01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:51.920
Because Intel stock slip cook Intel stock went up seven
1820
01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:55.960
percent after he invested eight billions or ten billion. That's
1821
01:21:56.039 --> 01:21:57.920
playing favorites in the market. What the hell's going to
1822
01:21:57.960 --> 01:21:59.319
happen to the other chip manufacturers?
1823
01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:03.479
Now, how's nobody talking about this? I'm saying, you're wondering,
1824
01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:06.640
like we just took over part of a chip manufacturer
1825
01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:08.960
and nobody's saying a word about are one hundred.
1826
01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:11.479
Percent playing favorites? I mean, there's no debate. We're playing favorites.
1827
01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:12.720
Of course their stock When I'm the first thing I
1828
01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:14.159
did was look at their stock. I'm like, this must
1829
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:17.000
have shot sent their stock up. It's like so and
1830
01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:19.560
I guess I can see it from national skier perspective,
1831
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:22.760
But I mean the public that's not been researching this stuff,
1832
01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:25.039
they should be all over wondering what's going on here?
1833
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:27.800
Like what's the justification for doing this? And how do
1834
01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:31.399
we if now that we've set this precedent right, why
1835
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:33.720
aren't we taking over Locked Martin. Why aren't we taking
1836
01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:37.399
over Sierra Nevada Corporation? Why not taking over Battel Institute?
1837
01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:40.359
Like there's so many companies that are defense contractors that
1838
01:22:40.399 --> 01:22:43.479
are basically all their money comes directly from the US government.
1839
01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:44.399
Why aren't they taken over?
1840
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:48.000
Yeah, because that would be purely fascist or a communistic
1841
01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:50.159
dictatorship if they were to try to do something like
1842
01:22:50.239 --> 01:22:53.439
that and ruin the free market. And like, the thing
1843
01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:56.319
I remember from time to time is that most people
1844
01:22:56.720 --> 01:23:00.359
are not really smart. There are small, a very small
1845
01:23:00.439 --> 01:23:02.520
there are people that are really smart, and they're considered
1846
01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:04.159
really smart because there aren't that many of them, so
1847
01:23:04.199 --> 01:23:06.359
they're putting that category of really smart. And a lot
1848
01:23:06.399 --> 01:23:08.079
of times people in the government that you get that
1849
01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:11.760
same percentage. Maybe you get some people in government. They're
1850
01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:14.159
very charismatic people in government, a lot of them, especially
1851
01:23:14.159 --> 01:23:17.079
the ones that speak for a living. Charisma and intelligence
1852
01:23:17.119 --> 01:23:19.439
are not the same thing. Intelligence and wisdom aren't the
1853
01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:20.920
same thing. You might be able to remember what you
1854
01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:22.880
were told to do and do it and have high
1855
01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:25.720
intelligence and great memory recall, with no ability to discern
1856
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:27.479
if what you're doing is right or wrong because you
1857
01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:29.560
don't have any wisdom. So we have to remember that
1858
01:23:29.640 --> 01:23:31.479
just because they're people and they're given this badge of
1859
01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:34.279
authority doesn't mean that they're good or intelligent or wise,
1860
01:23:34.800 --> 01:23:36.439
and we have to keep these people in check.
1861
01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:38.520
That's a big problem.
1862
01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:41.279
How do you keep them in check? Especially if they have,
1863
01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:45.399
you know, magical technology. Let's just assume that these disclosure
1864
01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:47.800
people are all telling the truth and that there's aliens
1865
01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:49.479
here and we've got this alien technology.
1866
01:23:49.920 --> 01:23:52.119
Well, things have gone completely off the rails if that's
1867
01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:54.640
the case. If they've got a free energy fusion technology,
1868
01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:58.279
wormal technology, from aliens, from anything. How do you keep
1869
01:23:58.359 --> 01:24:00.640
someone like that in check? You can't, right, I think
1870
01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:03.479
they let the mask slip now where it's like, you know,
1871
01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:07.119
we just dunked on Iran. Putin just came and visited us.
1872
01:24:07.159 --> 01:24:08.960
When was the last time Putin came to America?
1873
01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:12.279
He just came to America basically basically bent the knee.
1874
01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:14.000
I don't people don't want to agree that he bent
1875
01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:16.199
the knee, but I think he did. And then now
1876
01:24:16.239 --> 01:24:21.000
we're also just you know, nationalizing chip manufacturers. So I
1877
01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:23.159
look at this, I go, we're letting the mass slip here,
1878
01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:24.880
and like, this is this type of stuff I would
1879
01:24:24.880 --> 01:24:27.720
think would need to happen to put safeguards in place
1880
01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:29.319
so that if we did want to release any of
1881
01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:32.000
this technology, you know, we aren't going to be able
1882
01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:34.159
to destroy ourselves and in America will feel safe that
1883
01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:36.399
like China is not going to get our super advanced
1884
01:24:36.479 --> 01:24:38.880
microchips or whatever this is going on.
1885
01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:42.800
You think this the safeguard is purchasing the private companies
1886
01:24:42.920 --> 01:24:46.039
so that the other because I'm like, fascism isn't always evil.
1887
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:47.520
This is another thing I wrestle with, and it's not
1888
01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:50.359
always evil. Sometimes fascism can be good. You know, you
1889
01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:51.520
want to make that dumb argument.
1890
01:24:51.560 --> 01:24:52.000
It's true.
1891
01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:55.000
Sometimes you can use fascist tactics to create a stable,
1892
01:24:55.520 --> 01:24:58.800
healthy system for people. Even at the behage, we're still
1893
01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:01.920
conquering and absorb being resources from overseas. That's probably how
1894
01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:05.880
we're able to maintain fiat fascism. But it doesn't mean
1895
01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:07.760
it's evil just because it's fascist. So there there is
1896
01:25:07.840 --> 01:25:10.399
the argument that in the name of you know, survival,
1897
01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:14.800
we have to come together use our private our government
1898
01:25:14.880 --> 01:25:18.760
funds to buy what the fuck have we not done
1899
01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:21.640
this test? You buy ten percent? First, Oh, it's not
1900
01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:23.560
real communism, it's only ten percent. He doesn't have a
1901
01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:25.880
control and share. Yeah not today?
1902
01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:28.560
Yeah, Well, I mean we just they can never that
1903
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:30.960
company can never fail now, right, because We've just bought
1904
01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:34.000
ten percent of them, so they will obviously never fail anymore.
1905
01:25:34.039 --> 01:25:36.760
So yeah, I mean, that's just it's ridiculous, the whole
1906
01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:39.439
idea that we're just buying this stuff of these companies up.
1907
01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:43.359
But I guess the last part would be, like, well,
1908
01:25:43.439 --> 01:25:46.680
what really is even disclosure at this point? Like if
1909
01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:49.600
we assume that there are let's just assume that there's aliens,
1910
01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:53.039
we've got this technology or what have you, Like, how
1911
01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:54.439
do you even define disclosure anymore?
1912
01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:56.119
This is why I came up with this term called woke.
1913
01:25:56.039 --> 01:25:59.760
Disclosure, because I think the woke disclosure people look at
1914
01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:01.840
kind of what we laid out here and they come
1915
01:26:01.880 --> 01:26:04.399
to a similar conclusion, like we can't have all this.
1916
01:26:04.479 --> 01:26:06.640
There's certain stuff that's got to be kept secret for
1917
01:26:06.800 --> 01:26:10.119
national security. But they got to do something. It's like COVID, right,
1918
01:26:10.399 --> 01:26:12.720
we have to do something. It's like a cold virus.
1919
01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:14.520
There's nothing we can do as a cold virus man.
1920
01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:15.720
We have to do something.
1921
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Make everyone wear masks.
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Just make everyone wear masks.
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We gotta do something, right, I feel like they are
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doing the same thing with the aliens. Are going we
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have to do something, Okay, just tell everybody aliens are real.
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Look, we can do that.
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That's not gonna hurt national security. No one's gonna make
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a super weapon out of that, right, just tell aliens
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are real. The problem with that is it's so stupid, Like, Okay,
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if aliens are real, how are they getting here? Like
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where are they coming from exactly? And how are they
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getting here? And what is the fuel source for their
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magical UFOs that are flying around defying gravity?
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Right?
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Like those are my first three questions.
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So this is the part where I think that the
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whole woke disclosure thing is like I think they just
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think they're better than us, and they know better than us,
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and they might even be right, honestly, but I hate
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that viewpoint of this idea of like we just they
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have to control our lives because we will we will
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blow ourselves up if we if we do, Like, honestly,
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for me, and I want to know your opinion, I
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just say, if that's the case, if it's between us
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blowing ourselves up with this technology or just living a.
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Lie forever legends, I'm gonna roll the dice. Man, We're
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just gonna blow ourselves. If that's the case, then that's
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how we go out that's the end of our story.
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I guess, yeah, that's honestly, what do you think.
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Like honesty and deceit? I used to think like honesty
1951
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is the only way and deception is a mortal sin.
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It's not The Catholic Church actually says honesty is not
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a virtue. Lying is not a sin to the Catholics.
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I mean, they don't care. Uh it's so. I firstly,
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if aliens came here, they would not discern between our
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governments and our people. They would just show every They
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would just be here and everyone would be like what
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it would be? You know that It wouldn't be like
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we secretly had a message with the guy we think
1960
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might be able to tell the world, Like what the fuck?
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They're here for power. They're here to That's why they're here.
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They're here to expand that's why they came. Uh so whatever,
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But I I just I agonize over this. This the
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thing about the plays, you know, like the common man
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and then the elite, the royal FA the royal and
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their subjects. The Romans called them the plebs and then
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the leaders whatever that. But what it is is generations
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of people with good nutrition developed very powerfully capable brains,
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good thinking, good intelligence, good wisdom, and then their children
1970
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have good intelligence, and then they give they have There
1971
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are family lines and communities of people that have had
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excellent nutrition over generations, so they're very equipped to organize
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and lead and run things. I get it. But that
1974
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doesn't mean that other people can't. It just means that
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maybe they were dealt a bad hand coming in, or
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dealt like a non nutritious brain matter, you know, body now,
1977
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But that then you gotta think, well, they're still animals.
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Humans are animals, and a dumb animal is a very
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dangerous creature. So you got to you gotta just play
1980
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real cards as they're dealt, and that is a true
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fact of nature. So I hate the idea of keeping
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things from people, man, especially when I see someone that
1983
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I know could be great and they haven't become great yet.
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But they're not great yet, and I can't treat them
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like they are.
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So oh, so what do you think? What do you pick?
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Then?
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If if it's been choices between ignorant bliss living the
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world that we're in right now, you know, our twenty
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first century world, or taking the risk that we destroy ourselves.
1991
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But we get Star Trek.
1992
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Technology you know, wormholes, warp drives, even replicators, not immediately
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but soon.
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Which one are you gonna choose? Well?
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Which would I interested in? The risky path? But we
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have to discuss the risk, what's the what's the what's
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the calculation here? Now, let's build a system of risk
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management and go from there.
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And that's where I.
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Think, that's where I would I think that's a good
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spot to kind of leave the conversation today, because this
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is what I would say that I would hope that
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you know, you would take from this as somebody that
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you know is on with Tim Poole all the time
2005
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talking to these congress people that are looking at disclosure
2006
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and what have I think it's got. The conversation has
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to become bigger than just aliens, right. The conversation has
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to become more about, Okay, what comes with that? Is
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what kind of technologies come with that? And then what
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are those technologies mean? If they really are free energy technologies,
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these technologies.
2012
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That are like star Trek stuff, then what is that discussion?
2013
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Like, how do we put those guardrails up so that
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we can get these technologies to humanity in a safe
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way where we mitigate the risk, Right.
2016
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Yeah, man, I'm thinking of I don't know why I
2017
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think of the CCP as the boogeyman. I don't like
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having a boogeyman on. I don't think we need to
2019
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have a boogeyman. I think that's just kind of human nature.
2020
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We're so used to it genetically from always fighting against
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this animal coming to try and eat my family. I
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don't think we have to live like that all the
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time anyway. But I just imagined like a virulent, you know,
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angry regime that's hell bent on destroying everyone getting access
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to some superpower. But like I mean, if it's going
2026
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to happen, you know, living in ignorant bliss doesn't necessarily
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make it not happen.
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I'll kick the can down the road, right, That's not
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gonna not really solve anything in the long run. Let
2030
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me ask you about the question, Yeah, does the do
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you remember a time when China was in our adversary?
2032
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Because I feel like I'm when I was younger, even
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in my twenties, like China wasn't even like our adversary.
2034
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They were never our adversary. They did TMMN square And
2035
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it was like what the thought, like it was obvious
2036
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they were completely batshit psycho when they did, when they
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massacred all those students for rising up in protest at
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TM and Square, I thought that was like, Okay, these
2039
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guys are off the book evil to do that to
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their populace, that's that's terrifying that they would govern do
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that their public. That's what I took in the early
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nineties from the CCP and then never had a problem
2043
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with them. I've always loved I mean, I know Chinese
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products are shitty and cheap. I don't buy them. I
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try to buy them. I love China, the history of China,
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the Han dynasty, romance of the Three Kingdom is a
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huge part of my childhood. I read the novel twice,
2048
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the game Lou Bay South South Dong Jao and all
2049
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the characters I identify with Chokulong, this ancient teature of
2050
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the Chinese people who invented the repeating crossbow, and like
2051
01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:06.039
he could control the weather, you know, as the story says,
2052
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he could call lightning and things. I love China, Chinese
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history and the people one on one when I meet them.
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I'm just always concerned with communism and central governments, you know,
2055
01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:19.319
trying to centralize authorities insane to me, which is like
2056
01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:23.079
buying intel with our government. It's insane to me. Okay,
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I agree, I don't think. I don't think. I don't
2058
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even think there are a villain. And you know what,
2059
01:32:26.840 --> 01:32:29.600
but Scott Horton on Lex Freeman just did a ten
2060
01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:32.640
hour interview with Lex Freeman talking about what caused the
2061
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War of pir basically starts with like the the Iranian
2062
01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:37.239
regime in nineteen seventy nine, goes all the way. I've
2063
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only watched a couple hours, but he said in the
2064
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fifties and sixties, when they were developing counter nuclear war
2065
01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:44.880
protocols in the United States, if the Soviets go to
2066
01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:47.680
nuclear war with the United States, the plan was, we're
2067
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gonna nuke every metropolitan city in the Soviet Union, and
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we're gonna nuke every metropolitan city in China because if
2069
01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:55.880
the Russians in US are going to take ourselves down,
2070
01:32:56.039 --> 01:32:58.119
there's no way in hell we're letting those commedy bastards
2071
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take this planet. And that's this protocol is basically, if
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anything goes down, we're wiping all of China out. And
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I think the Chinese know that, yeah, and.
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I think they all know that, and I think that's
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the reason why you can't have this technology comes out,
2076
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because if somebody has, you know, a super black hole weapon,
2077
01:33:13.439 --> 01:33:16.399
then everybody's gonna make it a Mexican standoff, right, And
2078
01:33:16.479 --> 01:33:18.479
now we're back at a point where anybody does anything.
2079
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The whole plants destroyed.
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So man, and this is where I kind of wonder
2081
01:33:22.479 --> 01:33:25.760
about the China question, Like, yeah, they are communists, no question,
2082
01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:29.720
they're controlled government. But it's like, if you know, if
2083
01:33:29.760 --> 01:33:31.800
you knew about free energy technolog if you knew about
2084
01:33:31.800 --> 01:33:33.840
the dangers that this technology, and you were one of
2085
01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:35.800
those elites like you probably would do this. I think
2086
01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:37.760
most of us would do the same thing. That's the
2087
01:33:37.800 --> 01:33:39.840
scary part. And so then it's a matter of just
2088
01:33:39.920 --> 01:33:42.399
like how do we change the incentive structures, you know,
2089
01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:45.560
in a positive way where we can have you know,
2090
01:33:46.439 --> 01:33:49.720
some of this stuff an actual disclosure of information technology.
2091
01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:52.079
Reducing fuel costs is a big part of it, which
2092
01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:54.560
is why the hydrogen revolution excites me, whether that's through
2093
01:33:54.680 --> 01:33:57.920
fusing hydrogen into helium or using hydrogen gas as a
2094
01:33:58.039 --> 01:34:01.920
propellant or as an excitator or heat to get propulsion.
2095
01:34:02.359 --> 01:34:05.319
Like the hydrogen revolution, reducing the cost of fuel will
2096
01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:09.119
reduce the real national debt from thirty six trillion. On
2097
01:34:09.199 --> 01:34:11.840
paper too, if if fuels a tenth of the cost,
2098
01:34:11.960 --> 01:34:14.720
then our national debt may say thirty six trillion. It's
2099
01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:17.319
a tenth of that in reality, and that's a rough,
2100
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:20.640
a rough calculation, but it might. You might pay one
2101
01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:23.439
hundred dollars, but you're the value. It's easier to get
2102
01:34:23.439 --> 01:34:25.720
one hundred dollars because it's so much cheaper for your fuel.
2103
01:34:25.960 --> 01:34:28.640
That's the point. And then that reduces global tension, and
2104
01:34:28.800 --> 01:34:32.880
then as humans will be able to reinvigorate the twenty
2105
01:34:32.880 --> 01:34:34.880
first century tech what we do.
2106
01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:37.199
I'm until Saudi Arabia is like, wait, you don't need
2107
01:34:37.239 --> 01:34:39.119
oil anymore. No, we hate you. We're gonna blow you
2108
01:34:39.159 --> 01:34:39.600
all up now.
2109
01:34:39.960 --> 01:34:42.199
But no, they're smart enough to like get on board
2110
01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:45.279
with this before, Like they're they're investing in this technology.
2111
01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:47.720
I think, like, and honestly, you can use that flash
2112
01:34:47.840 --> 01:34:50.079
jewel process I was talking about where you electrocute carbon.
2113
01:34:50.479 --> 01:34:52.920
You can do that to oil. You can put oil
2114
01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:54.840
in a vacuum and electrocute it and turn it into
2115
01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:58.439
graphene and get hydrogen, so it's still useful carbon, Like
2116
01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:00.239
you don't have to burn it for fuel. You can
2117
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:02.199
use it to create graphing and then it's even better
2118
01:35:02.279 --> 01:35:06.880
fuel in a lot of ways, and with col too.
2119
01:35:07.319 --> 01:35:09.960
Yeah, this is an awesome conversation. Ian, go ahead. Do
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you want to shout out you know, any of the
2121
01:35:11.920 --> 01:35:13.560
projects anything you're working on? Oh?
2122
01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:15.760
Yeah, while I'm working on a lot of music behind
2123
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the scenes. I got a movie upcoming that I'm producing
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right now, and obviously I'm working with Tim Pool all
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the time. I'll be on Friday Timcast i RL on
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YouTube and Rumble Timcast i r L at eight pm
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Eastern Standard time. You can always follow me Ian Crossland
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on really any social media networks that you'll find me on.
2129
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I do Rumble, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, x, you know, Instagram.
2130
01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:37.960
Those are my top I think at the moment, Top
2131
01:35:38.039 --> 01:35:40.479
five minds. Follow me on minds. Happy to be here,
2132
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ashuay Man, this is great man.
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Yeah, this was awesome. So yeah, this is great.
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Let's meet up again sometime soon. Play some magic cards
2135
01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:49.000
and let's be in touch and we'll talk more science.
2136
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This is awesome conversation.
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Excellent, man.
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See I take it easy later