À PROPOS DE CET ÉPISODE
It's the last week of August, and that can only mean one thing - it's time to (playfully) argue with each other and review some horror movies!
This month, we're forgoing a game and instead revisiting THE LIST. Each episode, we add the title we're reviewing to our massive Letterboxd list and rank it against every other horror movie we've covered. And unfortunately, that list has become ungainly enough that maybe we've lost sight of the bigger picture.
So join us today as we try to come up with a more sensible ordering, and let's see if we can actually agree on whether The Bone Temple is better than Psycho. Afterwards, keep listening for some spoiler free reviews for Faces of Death and Exit 8.
As always, please feel free to email us ideas for games and movies you'd like to hear us cover!
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DANS CET ÉPISODE
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Horror podcast. I'm Todd, joined by, of course,
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the one and only, it's Becca, my wife. Hi, my
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wife. I think we're going to do that gag every
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fucking time. People are going to get sick of
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it. And we're going to watch every horror movie
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together, which is why we're back with another
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spoiler -free speed run. I think this is number
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seven. For this episode, we are finally going
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to revisit The List. This isn't really much of
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a game. I tried to figure out a way to score
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this. Who knows? Maybe when I'm editing it, I'll
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come up with something stupid. But ever since
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we started, we have had a list on Letterboxd.
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Follow us over there at Ghostbeast. And every
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single movie that we cover, we put it on the
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list and we give it its scientifically accurate
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designation. Unfortunately, now we're at like
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over 180. movies on there it's gotten pretty
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big and who could say maybe i've gotten a little
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uh little lax with some of the placements because
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as that list has gotten bigger and bigger it's
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gotten pretty fucking messy i think every time
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i look at it now um it starts to make my brain
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hurt so i know you've been wanting to do this
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for a while you've been wanting to go back and
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see if we can clean it up a little bit i've been
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opposed to that I think you realize that it does
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need a little bit of cleaning up. I feel like
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it defeats the science if we do that. But like
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it really has gotten to the point where when
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I'm going through, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's better
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than this, better than this. And then I'll see
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something that was just randomly thrown in the
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middle of the list. It's just like, why the fuck
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is this here? It's making it very confusing.
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So we're going to do our best today. We're just
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going to spend some time going through starting
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at number one. See if we can make this more definitive.
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It's also going to help because we have a little
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bit of space from the movies. Sometimes it could
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be hard when we first see a movie or really hot
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on it, you know, that can fuck up our ratings.
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So who knows? This might actually get a little
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spicy. We'll see. And then we also we watched
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Faces of Death recently and Exit 8. So we're
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going to talk about those, do some little spoiler
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free reviews. I think we enjoyed both of those,
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but they just maybe didn't need full episodes.
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You know, just wanted to at least have them covered.
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It really helps with the top tens. We want to
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watch everything, but we don't want the feed
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to be nothing but 2026 movies. So this will help
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to break it up a little bit. Other than that,
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though, I mean, what do we got? So you are working
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on a comic book. I'm sure you can't talk about
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it. I can't talk about it just yet. No surprise.
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Well, let's talk about the mystery movies a little
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bit. We love the mystery movies here. There was
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a horror mystery movie recently that we have
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discovered on Reddit. There is an insider who
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helps to uncover the mystery. And so when we
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saw that it was Ice Cream Man, we just figured,
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you know what? I think we can stay hope for this
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one. Seems like that was a good idea. Because
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it ended up being that, right? It was. Yeah.
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That's why. Everyone is talking about Ice Cream
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Man right now. Terrible. It's crazy because leading
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up to that, I wasn't very interested in that
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movie. Me either. And it's funny because I think
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before all this, I wouldn't say that I'm like
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an Eli Roth hater or anything. Like, I liked
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Thanksgiving. We both liked that one. I think
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it's difficult because more and more I hear about
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Eli Roth. He seems like a terrible person. Yeah.
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And using AI and then trying to pass it off as
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not using AI. Okay. We'll get to that. That whole
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thing just left a bad taste in my mouth. I'm
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talking, this is a four ice cream man. I think
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like, yeah, we've kind of come to realize he
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might be a shitty person. I try very hard to
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distance, you know, the art from the artist.
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I know that's harder for you to do. Oh, yeah.
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For me, I think it kind of takes a lot for me
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to. Just say like, yeah, I don't want to fucking
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see this for like reasons outside of the quality
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of the movie. Because I like just seeing everything.
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I mean, we watched fucking Green Inferno on our
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first date, you know? Well, yeah. Well, no, I
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didn't really know who Eli Roth was then, you
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know? Had you not seen like Hostel or Cabin Fever?
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I have seen Cabin Fever in high school, but I
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didn't see Hostel. So I wasn't really familiar
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with Eli Roth when we were making our date. That
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was the only horror film that was in theaters.
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That's why we saw it. Yeah. But I'm just saying,
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like, I wasn't a big hater. It was more that,
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like, everything I saw about Ice Cream Man just
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seemed completely unappealing to me. Because,
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like, we like Thanksgiving. That wasn't that
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long ago. But that's, like, look, I love a good
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themed slasher, holiday slashers. Those are good.
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I still think that's a good one. But Ice Cream
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Man just felt like it was trying too hard to
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be, like. Edgy and gory and violent. It seemed
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like it had nothing else going for it. And that
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just doesn't really do it for me Yeah, well the
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posters looked like AI to me Immediately when
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I saw the marketing. Yeah, and I was like, I
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don't know about this something seems off And
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then of course now it comes out that he did use
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AI so it's like well fuck that and then you know
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He supports genocide. So it's like I I don't
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know it's all around it just worse and worse
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of a person it seems like the more i find out
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about him and i think i'm good i think he should
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stop maybe find a new career path go somewhere
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else i don't know yeah i think we maybe we dodged
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a bullet on that one um i did think it was funny
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yeah the next day seeing all the people who saw
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it at the mystery movie talking about how fucking
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awful it was even aside from all the controversy
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it just apparently i mean we haven't seen it
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i don't want to like talk out of my ass no it
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sounded like it was a really really awful movie
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but then hearing that it had full -on ai scenes
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and of course you have people like coming out
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of the woodwork to defend it and be like oh you
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don't know you don't know that's ai until eli
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roth himself said that yes they used ai uh i
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think it's like maybe no surprise if you listen
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to us if a movie is using generative ai We're
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just not going to see it. I think that's one
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of our like lines in the sand. Yeah. I am cool
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with being like a salty ass old man who just
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will not under any circumstance watch this stuff.
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I'm not interested in like, oh, maybe this is
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like the future of VFX. Maybe there is going
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to be a time when this is much more commonplace.
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I'm still just not going to watch them. Yeah,
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I'm good. There's so there's so many movies out
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there. I'm not missing out. We have two of them
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coming up. The funny thing is, I think one episode
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is going to come out the week before this episode.
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So we get to do this again. So I think next Monday,
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the one that people really think it's going to
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be is Buddy, which we're pretty excited about.
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We're big fans of Casper Kelly. I will die on
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the hill that his short in VHS Halloween was
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the best one by far. And I'm pretty sure this
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is his first feature film. So I'm like excited
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to see what he does with that. We'll see. That
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one's going to be crazy turnaround. Whatever
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the movie is, we're going to watch it Monday.
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We're going to record Tuesday, edit Wednesday,
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put it out Thursday. So we'll see. We'll see
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what it is. I'm more interested in what's coming
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out the 24th because there's not a lot that I
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can think of. Maybe like It Ends. That's one
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people talk about a lot. Okay. That was on the
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Letterboxd video store. People said it was very
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good. I think it's some kind of cosmic horror
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thing. The movie we really want to see is Camp
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Miasma. And that is looking impossible. I don't
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know why this is still happening. Yeah, it's
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one of my... Of this year, it was Camp Miasma
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and Obsession were the two that I was really,
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really pumped to see. And it looks like... camp
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miasma is going to be really hard to find yeah
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well i think i think we've got it figured out
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look we're big shun run heads of course we gotta
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see this in theaters i don't think we've seen
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any of their movies in theaters and i think it's
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mostly because we couldn't find them yeah in
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theaters this time yeah it's got like a super
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limited release right now and i think what i
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saw is that when it finally gets a wider release
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there's like two theaters that are both like
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40 minutes away from us we're gonna make it happen
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it just sucks that it comes to this yeah especially
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when every theater i look at the show times and
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it's like 50 showings of spider -man just taking
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up every single fucking theater get that shit
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out of here i've heard so many like we used to
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go and see all these big i would like i still
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like spider -man yeah i'd still i would love
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to go see in theaters but now like I've seen
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so many instances of like just people being out
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of fucking control at the movies. Look, the movie
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theater is not your home. Okay. It's a shared
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space. It's getting so much worse. I don't know
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what's happening. Shut up. Put your phone away.
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Keep your shoes on, please. Yes, please keep
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your shoes on. I don't know why in 2026, we're
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still having this conversation. Like keep your
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shoes on. That's gross. It's just I can't with
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that. I think people have gotten even worse since
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COVID. People are like way too comfortable. People
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need to be a little bit uncomfortable in public.
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We need to go back to that. And like, I want
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to be clear, like I'm I don't care if you bring
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a blanket to the theater. It gets cold in there.
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I totally get that. But like, keep your shoes
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on. I care. You need to be uncomfortable. That's
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too comfortable. Oh, we did. We just watched.
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Infinity Castle, the new Demon Slayer movie.
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I feel like I want to talk about that a little
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bit, even though it's not a horror movie. Maybe
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this is the place to do it. I mean, is it not
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like horror anime? Maybe. I don't know if I'd
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call it horror. I guess adjacent. It's weird.
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What did you think of that? What? Infinity Castle.
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I thought it was good. Okay. I'm ready to see
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the next part. I feel like with the first one.
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it got to a point like towards the end where
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i'm like all right let's fucking go and it's
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credits and it's like fuck okay um why did you
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not like it you seem more negative watching it
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so i was like oh i don't know if that is still
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on this train okay it's good because i was tired
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i think i liked it too i think they're getting
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a little too indulgent with this series oh yeah
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because like what the fuck man it's two and a
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half hours long there is so much filler like
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the pacing in that is nuts it did not need to
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be two and a half fucking hours long yeah it
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was long and it was killing me because i've read
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all of the manga manga i never listened so hey
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just edit it nobody needs to know don't explain
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yourself just move on that one comment like five
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years ago because i i know i can't pronounce
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anything I don't care. It's the benefit of having
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human podcasters. We make mistakes, okay? It's
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okay. I've read the whole story, okay? And by
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the end of this, I was like, I'm pretty sure
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there's a fucking lot left. I don't know if they've
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said how many of these there's going to be. I
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feel like there has to be at least three at this
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point. Even just not knowing the story from the
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manga, I feel like there's definitely a lot left.
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Yeah. I just couldn't believe how little actually
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happened in this two and a half hour movie. But
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it followed the manga closely? Yeah. I want to
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say there was some stuff added. I won't get into
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it because I'm not 100 % sure. It's been a while.
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It just, I don't know. There's something about
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the pacing that was just too fucking much. For
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something that like in the comic, it's basically
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just nonstop action once you get to this part.
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And I guess they can't just do that for a full
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movie. I think you answered your question. That's
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probably what's happening. I know, but it's still
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like it just spent so much time doing very little.
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I don't know. I don't want to be too much of
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a hater. It just really does feel like that series
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is so big at this point that they're just like,
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we're going to do whatever the fuck we want now.
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I mean, it's called Infinity Castle. People are
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going to slurp it up. Anyway, why don't we just
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let's get into it. We're always wasting too much
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time. I'm a little scared about this because
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usually when we do stuff like this, I drag my
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computer downstairs and we connect it to our
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shitty ass TV or we could barely see anything.
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Today, we're going to try to screen record on
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your iPad instead. So like we always say. Something
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like this that is very visual because we're going
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to be going through the list and moving stuff
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around. We're going to try to make it as listenable
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as we can if you're just audio only. But on YouTube,
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we're going to have a video that shows all of
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our shenanigans. But since we're recording on
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your iPad, I'm just praying to fucking God that
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this works out. I don't know. I'm going to have
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no video. So let's we'll find out. Yeah. But
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I think what we're going to do, we're probably
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going to spend like 30, 40 minutes on this. I
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don't know if we're going to get through the
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whole list. I think we'll go through in like
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blocks of five maybe and see how we feel. Okay.
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And just keep going down from number one. Because
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I feel like we should make the top of the list
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as clean and accurate as possible. As it gets
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further down, it doesn't matter as much. So we'll
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just, we'll see how far we get. But why don't
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we we're going to take a quick break and then
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we're just going to get right into it. All right.
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I don't think there's any easy way to do this.
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We're going to try our best. We're definitely
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not going to do the whole thing. I can already
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tell because we're going to do like five at a
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time. And there I think there's 189 movies on
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here. So here's what we're going to do. I'm going
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to read five movies. After I read them, if there
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is something in here that you think needs to
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get moved around, say objection. And the first
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one to say that gets to make a move. Okay. Do
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you have a better idea? Just talking through
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it. Where is the fun in that? All right. So our
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top five right now, I actually feel pretty good
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about our top five. Top five is number one. Brain
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Dead, aka Dead Alive, aka one of the best movies
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ever made, aka my number one favorite movie.
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I think that's good at number one. It's good
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at number one. Number two, Alien. Number three
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is The Witch. Number four is Cat People. And
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number five is Black Christmas. I feel like there's
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a pretty good assortment because the first two
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movies are like kind of I mean, obviously we
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both love all these movies, but Brain Dead and
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Alien are two that are like very dear to me.
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I feel like the witch and cat people are very
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dear to you. And then we both love Black Christmas.
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Do you have any problems? Oh, I do. I think I
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want to switch. Did I hear an objection? Objection.
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All right, what do we got? I think I have a couple,
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actually. So I think I want to move Cat People
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up one. I was going to ask if you felt good with
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The Witch at number three. I definitely want
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to move them around. And I think I want to move
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Black Christmas. Because I do love Black Christmas.
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But I can see a movie peaking out that I feel
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like should definitely be number five. okay well
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we'll as we go through okay we'll see if we can
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come up with something that'll move up okay i
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think yeah i was actually gonna say i don't know
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if the witch was the number three movie no of
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ghost beast so this does feel better we got brain
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dead alien then cat people then the witch then
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black christmas by the way i will not suffer
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any insult to cat people okay Because we noticed,
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we got on that, we should have brought this up
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in the beginning. Oh yeah, we should have. We
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got on that, the bloody disgusting database that
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they put up. It's like, I guess they're competing
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with Letterboxd. I don't know. I don't think
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I'm going to switch anytime soon, but it was
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fun. It was fun to go through. And when I realized
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like the people, because they have a leaderboard,
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which is nuts. Yeah. That shit gets me going.
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As soon as I saw a leaderboard and I saw that.
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Number one had like 700 movies logged. I was
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like, those are some fucking rookie numbers.
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Get the fuck out of here. I know I could beat
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that. So I went through and once I got up to
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like 800, it put me in first place and I was
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like, fuck yeah. I took a screenshot. I'm going
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to have to throw that in the video. Oh, yeah.
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Because that shit's forever. Now the first place
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person has like 2 ,000 movies logged. Something
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like that. Seems a little suspicious to me. We
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were number one for a bit. And yeah, wasn't it
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you saw cat people in there? The only other review
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was like two stars or one star or something.
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Get the fuck out of here with that. Yeah. Anyway,
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so that's our top five. So moving on. Number
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six, we got Possession. Then Suspiria. Ooh, already
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interesting. Then Aliens. Then I saw the TV Glow.
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And then number 10 is It Follows. Okay. Well,
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I definitely object. or objection, whatever.
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Possession's got to go number five, I think.
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Oh, I thought you were going to move up Suspiria.
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Oh, I'm not even there yet. But do you think
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Possession is above Suspiria? You know, I was
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looking at the rating we put, and I was thinking,
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like, hmm, why was it like that? This is one
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of those where, like, we gave Possession five
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stars and Suspiria four and a half. I really
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think it's because when we saw Possession, we
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were so fucking surprised by it. We were just
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like, where has this movie been all our lives?
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It made us feel crazy. Yeah. No, I think Suspiria
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could go above. Maybe that's number five. That
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does feel a little bit right, I think. That feels
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right to me. Now... There's definitely some...
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We got some... cleaned it up to do here i think
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i think this is pretty good so that puts so spirit
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five then black christmas is at six then possession
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then aliens then i saw the tv glow then it follows
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i actually feel pretty good about that what were
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you gonna say um was there something else you
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wanted to move yes there are things i want to
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move but at the same time it feels like you're
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just getting into the weeds Yeah. Well, look,
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this is going to be our definitive list. We need
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to actually make this definitive. Just what were
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you thinking? Just speak about it. I think I
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want to move. I saw the TV go up, but at the
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same time, it's like it's so tough to like. Listen,
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that's a fantastic, fantastic movie. But like,
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let's let's simmer down. That's a 2024. Look,
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we got Camp Miasma coming up. That might actually
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go higher. So, yeah. I feel like number nine
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is pretty good. I could probably switch six and
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seven. Oh, put possession above Black Christmas?
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Yeah. All right. I'll give you that one. Okay.
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I'll build up some goodwill for my spicier takes
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later. I'm charging up right now. Oh, great.
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Okay. All right. So that's pretty good. That
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means our Suspiria made it to number five, possession
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number six, Black Christmas seven. Aliens, eight.
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I saw the TV glow, nine. And It Follows is ten.
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Let's move on. Next. All right. Now we're in
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11 through 15. We got Nope. We got Pearl. Then
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Sleepaway Camp. Interviolent Nature. And Obsession.
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All the way up to number 15. That's pretty spicy.
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I guess I'd have to see what's below it. But
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I think it's pretty good. I don't have any objections.
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I almost want to put Sleepaway Camp above Pearl,
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but I think this is pretty good. I think it's
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pretty good, too. Okay. All right. Wow. Perfect.
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First time. We are right on the money with these.
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So let's get to 16 through 20. Oh. Oh, that's
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tough. So we have Sinners, which we put Obsession
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above Spinners. We put obsession above sinners.
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Then we got weapons, red rooms. 28 years later,
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that's crazy. I think Bone Temple was better
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than 28 years later. Yeah, Bone Temple was better.
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I wonder where the fuck Bone Temple is. I don't
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know. We'll have to find out, I guess. And then
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20 is we're all going to the World's Fair. I'm
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just going to say real quick so people can really
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understand why we're doing this. That's a perfect
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example right there of 28 years later being apparently
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a few spots at least above Bone Temple. Because
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when I'm finding a space, I'm just going through
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like, yeah, it's better than this, better than
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this, better than this. Until I find something
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that like just speaks to me and feels right.
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Because the list is too big to go through every
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single fucking thing. But that's how you wind
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up with stuff like this where if you keep scrolling,
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it's wait a minute. It's like, where did this
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come from? Now, do you still think? sinners is
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below obsession i honestly those two i can't
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even like that's tough they were both so huge
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and we loved both so much i don't know i thought
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that was could be controversial but i think uh
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we're both feeling now what's interesting here
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is i think you liked weapons a lot more than
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i did yeah i think so i think that came out in
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our top 10 that year but What we've got here
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currently, I can't think of a reason to put any
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of those above it. See, I would probably put
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Bone Temple above weapons. Okay, well, we're
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not there yet. So where the fuck is Bone Temple?
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But for now, yeah, I think this is pretty solid.
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So wait, do you leave 28 years later? Are you
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going to move it down and then... Well, I think
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it is not as good as Red Rooms. No. I think I
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could put it above where I'll go into the World's
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Fair. I love that movie, but that definitely
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felt like El Shombron's debut. And I still that
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movie like means a lot to me. I loved it. But
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I think like compared to I saw the TV glow and
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now with Camp Miasma seeming to like blow them
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both out of the water. I could see that one going
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down a little bit on the list, but we'll see.
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Okay. But you think this is good as it is? I
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think it's good for now. Right. Yeah. So let's
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see. We're going to have to revisit 20 years
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later. What the fuck? Still no Bone Temple. Oh,
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that's crazy. Oh, okay. So now we got 21 through
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25. We got the Vortilak. We got Long Legs. Then
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Hocum, which is also crazy. I don't think that's
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Damian McCarthy's best movie, but then we got
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The Ritual and then we got X. Now, objection.
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Okay. I have an objection too. Fucking few. I
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got a few too. It's going to be interesting.
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We might be on the same page. I think I'm going
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to... I would move up the Vortilak. Yes. Quite
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a bit. I want to move it up quite a bit as well.
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I think I would put it right under weapons. I
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would actually put it above weapons. Well, then
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it's going above weapons. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The
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Vortilak has definitely stuck with us. Yes, it
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has. So its new spot is number... 17 read number
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17 under sinners above weapons okay yeah i have
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a few what do you got uh okay long legs has to
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go up i think long legs it's so funny i think
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like certain movies because you you definitely
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like long legs more than i do and i still love
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long legs i just I am really obsessed with Oz
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Perkins' filming style. I really love it. I know.
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I don't know what it is about it, but it really
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resonates with me. I could see it going up one.
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Going up above We're All Going to the World's
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Fair. I was going to put it above 28 Years Later.
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Is that not for you? You know what? Since we're
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going to move up Bone Temple, we could do that.
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Okay. So that puts it... under red rooms which
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i think is good i think red rooms is a better
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like serial killer thriller story above 28 years
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later and then honestly okay little little tease
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tuck that away uh i think i'd actually move up
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the ritual above hokum okay yeah because the
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ritual feels like it is really that's this fucking
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thing The Ritual has really persisted as this
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like just fucking super, super solid, good movie.
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It was like awesome the first time because it's
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so surprising and weird. And then rewatching
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it was like, this still holds up so well. And
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Hocum, I still, I love Hocum. But you don't want
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to move it. I think like now that I have some
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distance, especially looking at his other movies,
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I think I'm not as hot on it. I'm still I'm pretty
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hot. I'm just not like fucking blazing like I
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:57.440
was. It was very good. Yeah. What if I take the
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ritual and put it above 20? Oh, shit. OK. Yeah.
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:05.140
Yeah. I just think the reveal of that movie is
00:27:05.140 --> 00:27:08.799
just so fucking cool. It's like so cool. It does
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:12.900
a lot of cool. Yeah. That's so it's below long
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legs above 20 years later. Now, here we go. We
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found Bone Temple. 26 through 30, we got the
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Bone Temple, Strange Darling, The Substance,
00:27:25.809 --> 00:27:30.170
Shin Godzilla, and then Godzilla Minus One, which
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that one, there are definitely some that I make
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that are specifically meant to be controversial.
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Okay. I know for a fact I put Shin Godzilla right
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above Godzilla Minus One just to fucking stick
00:27:44.950 --> 00:27:48.180
my feet in the sand. I mean, shoot. No, I don't
00:27:48.180 --> 00:27:49.759
think that's a thing. What am I trying to say?
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:52.819
I don't know. I'm making a stand. All right.
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:58.500
I'm sticking my feet in the sand. Ten toes down
00:27:58.500 --> 00:28:03.920
in the sand. Ten toes down. Fuck, what did they
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:08.779
say? Deadass. Deadass. Watching a lot of Love
00:28:08.779 --> 00:28:14.200
Island. Deadass. Um, I have some objections.
00:28:14.299 --> 00:28:16.420
Well, hold on. So right away, let's deal with
00:28:16.420 --> 00:28:22.460
Bone Temple. Bone Temple's, whoops. Bone Temple's
00:28:22.460 --> 00:28:30.380
definitely going up. So, I think... I see you,
00:28:30.380 --> 00:28:35.440
like, peeking. I think we're getting a little
00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:39.740
crazy. I'd put it below Weapons and above Red
00:28:39.740 --> 00:28:42.589
Rooms. Okay. All right. Moved all the way up
00:28:42.589 --> 00:28:49.430
to 19? Mm -hmm. Where were we? Right here. Okay.
00:28:49.990 --> 00:28:55.190
Wait. Dang, X moved down to 26. So, what are
00:28:55.190 --> 00:29:01.529
you thinking? I need to peek up here really quickly.
00:29:01.750 --> 00:29:10.420
Okay. Just to see some things. Okay. I... personally
00:29:10.420 --> 00:29:12.700
feel like especially since we've re -watched
00:29:12.700 --> 00:29:16.660
shin godzilla i really think it should like come
00:29:16.660 --> 00:29:21.420
up maybe around here between 24 which is we're
00:29:21.420 --> 00:29:24.720
all going the world's fair and then um above
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:29.559
hokum you are my soulmate for sure i was totally
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:32.400
thinking like shin godzilla i know i was doing
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:35.279
this yeah i know a dickhead it deserves to be
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:40.000
much higher I just feel like Shin Godzilla is
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:45.160
like the perfect match of kaiju and horror. Like
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:47.900
they've really figured it out on this one. Yeah,
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:50.900
totally. So I put it below the ritual and above
00:29:50.900 --> 00:29:55.559
20 years later. Yeah. Okay. Could easily go there.
00:29:55.700 --> 00:30:04.740
Was that number 23? Yeah. So. Oops. Don't peek.
00:30:06.970 --> 00:30:10.250
these i actually feel pretty good about you know
00:30:10.250 --> 00:30:14.970
what i might move hokum down okay i think i would
00:30:14.970 --> 00:30:19.230
put hokum feels better to put it here below strange
00:30:19.230 --> 00:30:23.250
darling above the substance okay so i guess i'm
00:30:23.250 --> 00:30:25.869
gonna be a little spicy because i do feel like
00:30:25.869 --> 00:30:29.930
a substance should go above hokum all right that's
00:30:29.930 --> 00:30:31.750
it i can get down with that you want to move
00:30:31.750 --> 00:30:37.210
it yeah okay I think it's hard for Strange Darling
00:30:37.210 --> 00:30:40.369
because, again, that's another one where I really
00:30:40.369 --> 00:30:44.630
loved the filming style of it. Yeah. And the
00:30:44.630 --> 00:30:47.549
substance was great, you know, body horror. So
00:30:47.549 --> 00:30:50.750
it's hard to budge there. I think this one is
00:30:50.750 --> 00:30:53.670
interesting because we've only seen Strange Darling
00:30:53.670 --> 00:30:58.450
the one time in theaters. So that's a very interesting
00:30:58.450 --> 00:31:01.150
one because I know a lot of my rating comes from
00:31:01.150 --> 00:31:04.390
the fact that it was just so unexpected. Like,
00:31:04.390 --> 00:31:07.150
I will always pop off if something surprises
00:31:07.150 --> 00:31:09.450
the shit out of me. That's why, like, Redux Redux,
00:31:09.569 --> 00:31:13.049
we saw that recently. I think I was, like, more
00:31:13.049 --> 00:31:16.289
positive than I may have been otherwise just
00:31:16.289 --> 00:31:18.750
because, like, it felt like it came out of nowhere.
00:31:18.769 --> 00:31:22.390
It really surprised me. That gets me going. Strange
00:31:22.390 --> 00:31:24.690
Darling, I have no idea how I'd feel about it
00:31:24.690 --> 00:31:27.809
if I rewatched it. But that first viewing in
00:31:27.809 --> 00:31:29.789
the theaters was, like, fucking awesome. Oh,
00:31:29.789 --> 00:31:32.339
yeah. And I think... I might be wrong here, but
00:31:32.339 --> 00:31:35.799
was this one a mystery movie or no? No, we just
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:38.500
went to a weird theater where there were like
00:31:38.500 --> 00:31:41.279
all these old people. Yeah, this one was so great
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:43.539
to see in theaters. Yeah. I just remember having
00:31:43.539 --> 00:31:46.000
a really good time watching it. So you feel good?
00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:49.359
Yeah. About these? Yeah. All right. I'm already
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:51.720
feeling a lot better about the list. So now we
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:55.579
got 31 through 35. This gets very interesting.
00:31:56.059 --> 00:31:59.640
This is very interesting. 31, we have Psycho.
00:32:00.190 --> 00:32:06.069
Then Del Toro's Frankenstein. Then Alien 3. Then
00:32:06.069 --> 00:32:08.910
Humanist Vampire Seeking Consenting Suicidal
00:32:08.910 --> 00:32:14.049
Person. And then Terrifier 3 at number 35. Seems
00:32:14.049 --> 00:32:16.869
very high. Yeah, I definitely have objections,
00:32:17.009 --> 00:32:20.289
but I think I'm like lost on where to start.
00:32:20.890 --> 00:32:27.910
Okay. I am wondering if Psycho can move up. Yeah,
00:32:27.910 --> 00:32:30.069
Psycho definitely needs to move up. Where would
00:32:30.069 --> 00:32:36.049
you put it? I would put Psycho maybe... Ooh,
00:32:36.170 --> 00:32:39.769
I'm going way further up than I expected. You
00:32:39.769 --> 00:32:42.950
know what? The more I look at it now, I think
00:32:42.950 --> 00:32:46.990
I moved 20 years later down a lot. You moved
00:32:46.990 --> 00:32:49.170
it down too much? No, I think I would keep moving
00:32:49.170 --> 00:32:51.869
it down. Oh, okay, yeah. I really think The Bone
00:32:51.869 --> 00:32:55.430
Temple... 20 years later, look, I love that movie.
00:32:55.509 --> 00:32:57.970
I think a lot of it was because... It had been
00:32:57.970 --> 00:33:00.509
so long and seeing it come back was like, fuck
00:33:00.509 --> 00:33:03.829
yeah. But then the Bone Temple came out and it's
00:33:03.829 --> 00:33:06.569
like better than that one in like every single
00:33:06.569 --> 00:33:11.650
way. So it really stole all its thunder. I did
00:33:11.650 --> 00:33:14.650
like 28 years ago. I liked it, but it's just
00:33:14.650 --> 00:33:23.069
like there are just so many movies. No. I tried
00:33:23.069 --> 00:33:26.089
to put it above Frankenstein. Becca did not like
00:33:26.089 --> 00:33:31.819
that. Shit, that's tricky. Okay, let's put it
00:33:31.819 --> 00:33:35.000
there for now. Right under Alien 3. Where do
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.819
you want to put Psycho? Okay, so I think Psycho
00:33:37.819 --> 00:33:43.220
could really go up quite a bit. Oh, you don't
00:33:43.220 --> 00:33:46.240
feel this way. Am I going too far? Maybe. Okay.
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:50.380
Where would you put it? Okay. Honest, I would
00:33:50.380 --> 00:33:55.779
put it probably around Weapons and Bone Temple.
00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:00.940
okay i mean it's psycho um yeah yeah but okay
00:34:00.940 --> 00:34:03.920
you know i'm willing what take it put it wherever
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:08.340
you think it should go okay there we go this
00:34:08.340 --> 00:34:12.019
could be so stupid for you to fucking because
00:34:12.019 --> 00:34:17.059
it goes really fast okay so i'm just gonna plop
00:34:17.059 --> 00:34:20.199
it there okay so right under the bone temple
00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:23.300
and above red rooms yeah that does feel pretty
00:34:23.300 --> 00:34:26.849
good And I feel like Psycho and Red Rooms kind
00:34:26.849 --> 00:34:29.989
of go together nicely, too. I guess I should
00:34:29.989 --> 00:34:32.329
have said this up front, because I think there
00:34:32.329 --> 00:34:34.909
are some people who would probably hear like
00:34:34.909 --> 00:34:37.130
putting Psycho below the Bone Temple and would
00:34:37.130 --> 00:34:41.170
be losing their fucking shit. This is like, this
00:34:41.170 --> 00:34:44.369
is deeply. No, what were you saying? I just,
00:34:44.429 --> 00:34:46.329
I feel like your dad, especially, would be like,
00:34:46.349 --> 00:34:51.420
what? This list. It is, of course, completely
00:34:51.420 --> 00:34:54.980
scientific and definitive. It is also deeply,
00:34:55.139 --> 00:34:57.639
deeply personal, just like everything else on
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:01.820
this podcast. I think it's boring as shit to
00:35:01.820 --> 00:35:04.820
try and make some kind of objective list or to
00:35:04.820 --> 00:35:09.340
try and revere, respect. We're going to be ultra
00:35:09.340 --> 00:35:12.179
personal here. I do. But I do think that has
00:35:12.179 --> 00:35:14.619
a small factor, though. Some parts of that have
00:35:14.619 --> 00:35:17.219
a small factor. I try to ignore that. I'm flushing
00:35:17.219 --> 00:35:19.320
it from my brain. Maybe I'm misunderstanding
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:23.360
you. I'm thinking like giving it its accolades
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:27.019
for like composition and art direction. Well,
00:35:27.099 --> 00:35:30.559
no, if that's what you responded to, I'm talking
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:33.400
more about like, you know, Psycho, that's a classic.
00:35:33.619 --> 00:35:35.880
It's Alfred Hitchcock. Oh, I see what you're
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.820
saying. I'm just ignoring all of that because
00:35:38.820 --> 00:35:40.920
I think it's fucking boring. We're just going
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:45.219
vibes. Very personal. I feel like for me, Alfred
00:35:45.219 --> 00:35:48.380
Hitchcock is very personal. with his movies yeah
00:35:48.380 --> 00:35:51.219
they were they were some of those like comfort
00:35:51.219 --> 00:35:54.659
horror movies that i would watch so totally i
00:35:54.659 --> 00:35:57.320
think that's where some of that might be coming
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:02.780
from so a level a uh 2026 movie is above psycho
00:36:02.780 --> 00:36:07.199
tldr i if this was a personal list i would probably
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.139
keep moving it up but i feel like i'm also we
00:36:10.139 --> 00:36:15.090
do have to compromise yeah now this i think feels
00:36:15.090 --> 00:36:17.190
pretty good i know you probably want to move
00:36:17.190 --> 00:36:20.250
frankenstein up but i don't think frankenstein
00:36:20.250 --> 00:36:24.610
can beat the godzilla minus one wall um i think
00:36:24.610 --> 00:36:28.610
it could and i think it could go above uh probably
00:36:28.610 --> 00:36:32.449
maybe just under the substance and above hokum
00:36:32.449 --> 00:36:36.030
i feel like i could move easily move it up there
00:36:36.030 --> 00:36:38.769
here here's what we'll do okay here's the compromise
00:36:38.769 --> 00:36:44.480
we're gonna put Frankenstein above hokum, but
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:48.059
then we're gonna put oops Godzilla minus one
00:36:48.059 --> 00:36:54.900
above Frankenstein Okay, all right so now it
00:36:54.900 --> 00:36:57.760
moved up to number 30 it's below Godzilla minus
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:02.579
one above hokum Some of these are getting fucking
00:37:02.579 --> 00:37:06.800
bullied That's the like unintended side effect
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:08.780
is we are bullying the shit out of hokum and
00:37:08.780 --> 00:37:13.519
28 years later I feel like we could move Humanist
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.119
Vampire Seeking Consenting Suicidal Person down
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:18.800
a little bit. And it's not that I don't like
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:22.320
the movie. We'll get there. Do you think Terrifier
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:27.260
3 should be above it? Yeah. Okay. I will say
00:37:27.260 --> 00:37:30.380
as someone who took a little convincing to watch
00:37:30.380 --> 00:37:34.579
Terrifier, I have really enjoyed the way that
00:37:34.579 --> 00:37:37.760
it evolved, especially in the third one, just
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:41.250
because it felt way more campy. And a little
00:37:41.250 --> 00:37:45.489
less like fucking dreadful. I think Terrifier
00:37:45.489 --> 00:37:49.150
3, this is a little controversial, but I think
00:37:49.150 --> 00:37:51.409
that's my favorite one. No, I agree with you.
00:37:51.570 --> 00:37:55.010
Because I think they finally found the tone.
00:37:55.130 --> 00:37:58.389
Yeah. With that one where it's like super campy.
00:37:58.389 --> 00:38:01.630
It's like very obviously very fucking gory. It's
00:38:01.630 --> 00:38:04.710
also super inspired by Black Christmas. Yeah.
00:38:04.750 --> 00:38:07.250
And they did well executing that. But it's like
00:38:07.250 --> 00:38:10.699
it's the perfect. line of being like campy and
00:38:10.699 --> 00:38:12.679
having like a sense of humor while also being
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.739
like fucking horrifying and super gory. I know
00:38:15.739 --> 00:38:17.559
a lot of people are still scared of the Terrifier
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:19.699
movies. I recommend you can just jump in the
00:38:19.699 --> 00:38:22.159
three. Honestly, you don't need to see all these
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.699
fucking movies. Yeah, the lore is just kind of
00:38:24.699 --> 00:38:27.199
there. It's not like necessary to know. I don't
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:31.179
give a shit about the lore. All right. So now
00:38:31.179 --> 00:38:36.239
we're number 36 through 40. We got Mads. Then
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:40.159
we got Frawika. then the hunger then the love
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:44.179
witch and number 40 is the long walk i have objections
00:38:44.179 --> 00:38:48.960
but this is also insane grouping of movies like
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:54.820
uh okay so the love witch has to go up some you
00:38:54.820 --> 00:38:57.280
think it's how far up but see this is where i'm
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.860
struggling is because i don't even know where
00:38:59.860 --> 00:39:02.860
to put mads frey waka and the hunger because
00:39:02.860 --> 00:39:05.780
i also love i think frey waka could definitely
00:39:05.780 --> 00:39:09.150
go above humanist vampire seeking consenting
00:39:09.150 --> 00:39:12.030
suicidal person all right so let's start this
00:39:12.030 --> 00:39:14.010
i've already got some ideas too we're gonna start
00:39:14.010 --> 00:39:16.949
moving around froco goes above humanist vampire
00:39:16.949 --> 00:39:22.730
below terrifier three i'm gonna put mads above
00:39:22.730 --> 00:39:29.809
20 years later yeah below alien 3. yeah i feel
00:39:29.809 --> 00:39:31.809
like we're starting to build like fortifications
00:39:31.809 --> 00:39:34.630
now it's like you're gonna have trouble getting
00:39:34.630 --> 00:39:37.789
past this bad boy alien 3 is like we're gonna
00:39:37.789 --> 00:39:43.789
be holding strong i think um i would also move
00:39:43.789 --> 00:39:48.210
the hunger up a bit um oh boy now we're bullying
00:39:48.210 --> 00:39:53.869
human's vampire no we're not bullying it's the
00:39:53.869 --> 00:39:56.969
hunger i watching that was just like insane to
00:39:56.969 --> 00:39:59.769
me that i had it's taken so long to see it was
00:39:59.769 --> 00:40:03.380
just like oh my god uh it's like artistically
00:40:03.380 --> 00:40:05.739
very beautiful well hold on do you think the
00:40:05.739 --> 00:40:10.239
love which is above the hunger yes okay i'll
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:12.920
let you make that decision why you don't think
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:16.739
so i'm like 50 50 so that's fine we can move
00:40:16.739 --> 00:40:19.360
that up but this is what i'm saying move love
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.400
which above the hunger i don't know if i can
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:27.079
okay second guess yes i was gonna say move humanist
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.059
vampire down that's probably the easiest way
00:40:29.469 --> 00:40:31.150
Because I don't know if The Hunger is above Fravica.
00:40:31.329 --> 00:40:34.630
So you're bullying. Yeah, I'm bullying Humanist
00:40:34.630 --> 00:40:36.969
Vampire. Well, I mean, and then you have The
00:40:36.969 --> 00:40:38.789
Long Walk. So I feel like it would go below The
00:40:38.789 --> 00:40:42.449
Long Walk because I know you love that movie.
00:40:43.250 --> 00:40:47.869
Oh, man. What sucks is like we did a fucking
00:40:47.869 --> 00:40:51.250
episode on Humanist Vampire. Here's a little
00:40:51.250 --> 00:40:53.530
Ghost Beasts trivia. I think that's our worst
00:40:53.530 --> 00:40:56.510
episode we've ever done. Yeah, we were both just
00:40:56.510 --> 00:40:59.699
not feeling it that day. And I think it's got
00:40:59.699 --> 00:41:05.239
more views by like 50 ,000 on YouTube for some
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:08.099
reason. And I don't remember that movie super
00:41:08.099 --> 00:41:11.099
well. So that makes it really tough. We put it
00:41:11.099 --> 00:41:12.980
really high, so we must have really liked it.
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.380
I mean, I can remember parts of it and I still
00:41:15.380 --> 00:41:19.760
stand with it. I did really like it. I just am
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:23.159
seeing more movies that I would push up a bit.
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:28.199
Yeah. Then... Okay, so let's move it down then.
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:34.400
Below the long walk. What are you thinking now
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:38.000
for the hunger and the love witch? That's the
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:44.019
question. I would keep it there because my brain
00:41:44.019 --> 00:41:47.300
can't process having to go above all of that.
00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:51.539
Here's the compromise. Oops. I put Frolico below
00:41:51.539 --> 00:41:54.079
the hunger. So we separate the Love Witch and
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.880
the Hunger now. Keep them away from each other.
00:41:57.739 --> 00:42:04.159
So now 35 is Terrifier 3, then the Hunger, then
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.639
Frawika, then the Love Witch, and then the Long
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.639
Walk. Now, how do you feel about that? Because
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:11.659
I know you really love the Long Walk. I think
00:42:11.659 --> 00:42:14.920
it's good. Okay. Long Walk is a compromise. I'm
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:18.099
fully aware. Because I was going to say, I don't
00:42:18.099 --> 00:42:20.139
know if I could put Love Witch below. Yeah, we're
00:42:20.139 --> 00:42:24.230
good. We're good. All right, number 40. Jesus,
00:42:24.449 --> 00:42:27.309
this is like, we're taking so much more time
00:42:27.309 --> 00:42:29.369
than I expected. We got to go a little bit further.
00:42:29.730 --> 00:42:32.650
I think if we get to like 50, it should be fine,
00:42:32.730 --> 00:42:35.730
right? Okay. Yeah, we could at least get 50.
00:42:35.869 --> 00:42:38.829
We'll come back to this. Yeah. But now number
00:42:38.829 --> 00:42:43.630
40 is Humous Vampire, then The Invitation, then
00:42:43.630 --> 00:42:49.309
Oddity. Okay. Then Society, and then Tales from
00:42:49.309 --> 00:42:53.739
the Hood. This one. We can fuck this up, I think.
00:42:54.099 --> 00:42:57.500
Yeah. Okay, so wait. The thing that's tricky
00:42:57.500 --> 00:43:01.860
for me. You did not like Oddity as much as I
00:43:01.860 --> 00:43:04.960
did. I liked it, but yeah, you liked it more
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.820
than I did. How did you feel about it compared
00:43:07.820 --> 00:43:11.440
to Hokum? I think I personally liked Hokum more.
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:19.269
Okay. Well, I'm going to do this shit. Here,
00:43:19.369 --> 00:43:21.650
this will be, here's our compromise. I'll put
00:43:21.650 --> 00:43:24.590
it above the Long Walk, below the Love Witch.
00:43:24.730 --> 00:43:27.610
I would put it actually much higher, but this
00:43:27.610 --> 00:43:35.530
is good. 39. Okay. Where's Hokum? Jesus. Did
00:43:35.530 --> 00:43:39.769
you not like Hokum as much? No, I didn't like
00:43:39.769 --> 00:43:43.469
it as much. Okay. We can move it down. Let's
00:43:43.469 --> 00:43:46.400
move it down. Do you want to switch them? No,
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:50.579
we don't need to, because I think the way you
00:43:50.579 --> 00:43:56.000
feel about it, we're going to bully Hokum. Okay,
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:58.460
I feel good about this. Below the hunger, above
00:43:58.460 --> 00:44:01.300
Frawlika. What do you think? Well, I know you
00:44:01.300 --> 00:44:04.380
also really like Frawlika. I do too. Which one
00:44:04.380 --> 00:44:07.400
would you say? I'd put Hokum above Frawlika.
00:44:07.579 --> 00:44:11.059
Okay. That feels good. At least they're closer
00:44:11.059 --> 00:44:14.780
together. That's a good compromise. So where
00:44:14.780 --> 00:44:19.429
were we? here we just added that moved up phantasm
00:44:19.429 --> 00:44:22.610
to number 45 which that's also that feels like
00:44:22.610 --> 00:44:28.289
okay so i have some issues here um society could
00:44:28.289 --> 00:44:31.630
probably go up i agree for me start moving it
00:44:31.630 --> 00:44:39.889
okay i'm continuing to figure out where this
00:44:39.889 --> 00:44:42.590
goes this is really hard actually i think it
00:44:42.590 --> 00:44:47.059
can go pretty i would put it up higher okay This
00:44:47.059 --> 00:44:56.480
is where it gets like interesting. Yeah. I think
00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:59.059
maybe actually it's kind of nice it being right
00:44:59.059 --> 00:45:02.800
below the substance. Yeah. But it's above Godzilla
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:07.099
minus one. That got a big upgrade. That's I feel
00:45:07.099 --> 00:45:12.880
good about that. Okay. So let's go back. So now.
00:45:14.940 --> 00:45:18.039
It's so tricky because like, okay, I'm just going
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:19.860
to do this. I think Tales from the Hood is better
00:45:19.860 --> 00:45:22.539
than The Invitation. Yeah, I think it can keep
00:45:22.539 --> 00:45:25.699
going up, honestly. I'm going to keep it below
00:45:25.699 --> 00:45:28.619
Long Walk. Okay. So it's below Long Walk, above
00:45:28.619 --> 00:45:31.519
Humanist Vampire. Then we got The Invitation.
00:45:32.900 --> 00:45:36.059
Phantasm can go up. Phantasm, that one's also
00:45:36.059 --> 00:45:40.039
tricky. Well, maybe right below Tales from the
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:43.179
Hood, maybe. I'd put it above. Okay. I'd actually.
00:45:50.409 --> 00:45:52.909
Whoa. That phantasm is great. Unfortunately,
00:45:53.050 --> 00:45:57.489
yesterday, Reggie passed away, which is really
00:45:57.489 --> 00:46:01.429
sad. I really fell in love with the phantasm
00:46:01.429 --> 00:46:04.989
franchise. OK, what the heck is going on over
00:46:04.989 --> 00:46:09.570
here? OK, OK. Here's where I'd put it. And yes,
00:46:09.690 --> 00:46:12.409
we should have said this up front, too. I got
00:46:12.409 --> 00:46:15.300
like write down topics or something. Reggie passed
00:46:15.300 --> 00:46:18.699
away yesterday. Very sad. He was in hospice for
00:46:18.699 --> 00:46:22.880
a while. So we knew this was coming, but it sucks.
00:46:23.099 --> 00:46:25.179
I'm still really glad they were able to make
00:46:25.179 --> 00:46:27.579
Phantasm V and bring everybody back together.
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:33.639
It feels even more profound now, almost. So that's
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:37.500
cool, but he will be missed for sure. Yeah, last
00:46:37.500 --> 00:46:40.659
fall was really special watching all those movies.
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:42.719
Yeah, it's crazy the timing, because we just
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:46.360
went through the whole thing. yeah um but i yeah
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:50.039
i i moved it up to number 25 so it's below shin
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:51.920
godzilla above we're all going to the world's
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:55.239
fair yeah i think that's good that sounds good
00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:02.960
much more scientific um i think that's pretty
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:04.760
good what do you think you want to stop there
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:08.469
or we gotta at least get to 50. oh okay Let me
00:47:08.469 --> 00:47:10.510
see. Hold on, hold on. Oh, I thought there was
00:47:10.510 --> 00:47:12.570
more down there. Are you good with these? Yeah,
00:47:12.570 --> 00:47:16.289
I'm good. Okay, then now 41 is Oddity, then The
00:47:16.289 --> 00:47:19.889
Long Walk, then Tales from the Hood, then Humanist
00:47:19.889 --> 00:47:23.849
Vampire, and then The Invitation. So now let's...
00:47:23.849 --> 00:47:28.929
Story of our life. We're not getting through
00:47:28.929 --> 00:47:30.889
nearly as much as I hoped we would, but at least
00:47:30.889 --> 00:47:33.949
we have like a solid top 50. I think getting
00:47:33.949 --> 00:47:36.650
to 50 was good. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll come back.
00:47:36.650 --> 00:47:37.690
You think we're going to be able to do this whole
00:47:37.690 --> 00:47:40.289
list? There's no way. Yeah, I guess you're right.
00:47:40.969 --> 00:47:45.809
But now, 46 through 50, we got The Boxer's Omen.
00:47:45.989 --> 00:47:50.389
We got Ganja and Hess. Then Begonia. Then The
00:47:50.389 --> 00:47:53.869
Craft. And then Messiah of Evil at number 50.
00:47:55.190 --> 00:47:59.110
What do you think? This is getting really tough,
00:47:59.309 --> 00:48:05.039
honestly. There's part of me that wants to like
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:08.320
move Begonia up a little bit. Oh, really? Yeah.
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:11.659
But at the same time. Oh, you were going to move
00:48:11.659 --> 00:48:16.940
it down. Spicy. Why were you thinking that? I
00:48:16.940 --> 00:48:19.539
think I did just really enjoy that movie. I don't
00:48:19.539 --> 00:48:22.199
know. Has it like grown for you as you've sat
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:25.659
on it? Oh, yeah. Okay. I think as I've sat on
00:48:25.659 --> 00:48:29.380
it. I don't want to say I like it less, but I'm
00:48:29.380 --> 00:48:32.139
not as excited about it as I was. Oh, I still
00:48:32.139 --> 00:48:34.300
think about that movie sometimes. I think the
00:48:34.300 --> 00:48:36.699
way that they intertwined the concept and then
00:48:36.699 --> 00:48:43.199
the ending was just really cool to me. Here,
00:48:43.380 --> 00:48:47.980
I got an idea then. So I think I would actually
00:48:47.980 --> 00:48:53.059
move Boxer's Omen above Humanist Vampire. We're
00:48:53.059 --> 00:48:55.000
going to continue to bully Humanist Vampire.
00:48:55.469 --> 00:48:57.289
That puts it below Tales from the Hood. I think
00:48:57.289 --> 00:49:00.510
I would move it up higher, but this is a compromise.
00:49:00.590 --> 00:49:03.050
I know you're not as crazy about these movies
00:49:03.050 --> 00:49:08.170
as I am. Only because animal abuse is hard. But
00:49:08.170 --> 00:49:12.289
I do enjoy watching them. Yeah, I know. I mean,
00:49:12.309 --> 00:49:13.590
if you want to move it up, you can move it up.
00:49:13.590 --> 00:49:15.570
No, I think that's a good spot. And then the
00:49:15.570 --> 00:49:17.449
other thing I was going to say, after what you
00:49:17.449 --> 00:49:21.650
just said, put Begonia above... We'll put it
00:49:21.650 --> 00:49:24.139
above The Invitation. How does that feel? Yeah,
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:27.360
that's fine. Okay. Yeah. So below Humanist Vampire,
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:28.940
I'm sick of bullying it. I want to leave it.
00:49:29.179 --> 00:49:32.719
I think I'm being too negative. So Humanist Vampire
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:36.420
is number 45, then Begonia, then The Invitation,
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:39.260
then Ganjin Hess, The Craft, Messiah of Evil.
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:42.579
How do you feel about this? I think it's fine.
00:49:42.820 --> 00:49:46.170
It really, like... I could maybe move Messiah
00:49:46.170 --> 00:49:48.949
of Evil up some, but... Fuck, I was just getting
00:49:48.949 --> 00:49:51.550
ready to say. Okay. Put Messiah of Evil above
00:49:51.550 --> 00:49:53.670
Ganjin House below The Invitation. What do you
00:49:53.670 --> 00:49:55.650
think? Yeah, I think that's good. Very good.
00:49:55.789 --> 00:50:01.110
I feel good. So, we got a nice top 50, I think.
00:50:01.329 --> 00:50:03.809
I feel good about this. This is off to a good
00:50:03.809 --> 00:50:09.429
start. Yeah. We only have like 150 to go. You
00:50:09.429 --> 00:50:11.469
know what's crazy is by the next time we do this,
00:50:11.469 --> 00:50:13.969
we'll have added. I know. That's part of what
00:50:13.969 --> 00:50:16.090
I was thinking. There's going to be so much shit
00:50:16.090 --> 00:50:18.369
added. It's going to fuck all this up again.
00:50:19.389 --> 00:50:22.630
I'm almost certain that there may be a movie
00:50:22.630 --> 00:50:26.889
that pushes up in here. Oh, yeah. I could see
00:50:26.889 --> 00:50:29.769
Camp Miasma, definitely. If it winds up being
00:50:29.769 --> 00:50:33.329
better than I saw the TV glow, then it's going
00:50:33.329 --> 00:50:36.769
to shoot the fuck up. We'll see. But I feel good.
00:50:37.469 --> 00:50:40.849
About this, we have a solid top 50 now. So if
00:50:40.849 --> 00:50:43.809
you don't follow us, go check us out on Letterboxd
00:50:43.809 --> 00:50:46.510
at Ghostbeast. You'll see the list in all its
00:50:46.510 --> 00:50:48.429
glory. You get to see how fucking messy it is
00:50:48.429 --> 00:50:52.969
after 50. But now one through 50. Perfect. Perfect
00:50:52.969 --> 00:50:56.710
list. We'll definitely we'll come back to this,
00:50:56.710 --> 00:50:59.909
though. Yeah. We got like a good number of things
00:50:59.909 --> 00:51:03.010
now, which is like good and bad because we got.
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:06.699
We have our scary tier list, which we still haven't
00:51:06.699 --> 00:51:10.260
finished. We have the decade heads, which we
00:51:10.260 --> 00:51:12.719
have a lot left on that. And now we got the list.
00:51:12.860 --> 00:51:16.079
So we got a few things that are like to be continued.
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:20.420
Yeah. Okay. Maybe. Oh, and letterbox. Well, that's
00:51:20.420 --> 00:51:22.539
like evergreen. You can always find that shit.
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:25.599
Yeah. I was thinking for October, we might go
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:28.639
back to our scary movie tier list. Seems appropriate.
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:32.019
Okay. So maybe next month we'll go back to Shitterbox.
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:33.920
I know that's your favorite. I love playing that.
00:51:34.059 --> 00:51:36.800
So we'll probably do that next time. But this
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.960
is a good start. And we're definitely going long.
00:51:40.099 --> 00:51:45.099
So why don't you stick around for our movie reviews?
00:51:45.219 --> 00:51:47.840
We're going to start with Faces of Death. And
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:50.639
then after that, we'll go to Exit 8. And you
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:56.360
get to see where they are on the list. We watched
00:51:56.360 --> 00:52:00.639
Faces of Death from 2026. directed by Daniel
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:04.679
Haber, who also directed Cam. Remember that movie?
00:52:05.460 --> 00:52:08.579
Vaguely. It's pretty good. So yeah, this is the
00:52:08.579 --> 00:52:14.619
2026 version of the 1978 movie. This is not a
00:52:14.619 --> 00:52:18.460
remake. How familiar were you with the original
00:52:18.460 --> 00:52:21.039
Face of the Death? I'd never heard of it. I thought
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:22.920
so. I've talked to a few people. I talked to
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:24.980
someone at work and none of them had heard of
00:52:24.980 --> 00:52:27.400
it, which kind of blew my mind. But maybe that
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:32.440
just means that I was maybe... Super cool underground
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:35.559
horror fan? No, that's not what I was going for.
00:52:35.940 --> 00:52:38.239
I think it just confirms I was a little edgelord
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:41.420
when I was a teenager. Okay, yeah. Look, early
00:52:41.420 --> 00:52:45.619
2000s internet was a much scarier place, if you
00:52:45.619 --> 00:52:48.000
could believe that. But I think that's like part
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:51.880
of why when we heard about this one, we were
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:55.059
pretty reluctant to check it out. Like I know
00:52:55.059 --> 00:52:56.760
I wasn't really paying a lot of attention to
00:52:56.760 --> 00:53:01.510
it. I was expecting something that was like big
00:53:01.510 --> 00:53:04.929
time, splatterhouse, very gory, very intense.
00:53:05.530 --> 00:53:07.969
I feel like you were too, because you seemed
00:53:07.969 --> 00:53:10.550
like pretty down on watching this for a while.
00:53:10.809 --> 00:53:14.590
Well, when I first saw the poster and stuff for
00:53:14.590 --> 00:53:16.329
this movie come out, like when that came out,
00:53:16.369 --> 00:53:19.539
I was like, okay, that looks cool. And then you
00:53:19.539 --> 00:53:23.480
told me, I think, right before the movie, like
00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:24.940
maybe a couple hours before the movie, we were
00:53:24.940 --> 00:53:27.460
just talking and you told me what it was about.
00:53:27.579 --> 00:53:31.219
And I was like, oh, OK. So I fucked it up. I
00:53:31.219 --> 00:53:33.159
guess that makes sense since you didn't even
00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:35.380
know about the original. That's the interesting
00:53:35.380 --> 00:53:38.679
thing. I guess it's funny how that can happen
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:43.519
when we we deliberately try not to look too much
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:46.380
into. horror movies because we want to be surprised
00:53:46.380 --> 00:53:49.079
we don't watch a lot of trailers unless we are
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.119
forced to yeah when we go to the movies never
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:55.000
saw a trailer for this and knowing what the original
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:57.519
was i guess i just had some kind of overblown
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.440
expectations and that's the funny thing is like
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:03.219
this this movie like i'm not gonna sit here and
00:54:03.219 --> 00:54:05.940
act like this was you know one of the greatest
00:54:05.940 --> 00:54:08.559
to come out this year or anything like that i
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:11.619
think my feelings are like very complicated okay
00:54:11.619 --> 00:54:17.539
about this But I was very surprised by it in
00:54:17.539 --> 00:54:21.760
like a very good way. Okay. Definitely interested
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:24.659
in talking this through because I really have
00:54:24.659 --> 00:54:27.000
no idea how you felt about this. You seemed pretty
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:30.960
positive when we were watching it. Okay. I guess
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:35.079
we'll get to it. I guess so. Yeah. I think part
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.719
of what surprised me, which I'm sure plenty of
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:40.599
people listening are like, fucking duh. This
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:43.619
is not. a remake of faces of death this is like
00:54:43.619 --> 00:54:48.059
a um like an extension on it well specifically
00:54:48.059 --> 00:54:51.800
it's a movie that is about faces of death it's
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:54.340
about the original movie because the original
00:54:54.340 --> 00:54:57.820
movie exists in universe and is like a major
00:54:57.820 --> 00:55:00.179
part of the story yeah because this without like
00:55:00.179 --> 00:55:02.760
giving anything away you know this is all spoiler
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:07.659
free this is really about a serial killer who
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:10.760
Also happens to be an influencer which by itself
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:14.480
is like pretty interesting idea but he's specifically
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:18.019
emulating the Kills that were in the original
00:55:18.019 --> 00:55:20.199
which I guess will set up a little bit because
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:22.760
I think especially the younger audiences might
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:26.500
not know about the original faces of death I've
00:55:26.500 --> 00:55:29.940
never seen the whole thing all the way through
00:55:29.940 --> 00:55:32.840
I definitely saw clips from it back in the day
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:35.340
Back when I was on like rotten calm and shit
00:55:36.329 --> 00:55:37.889
Yeah, when you described it to me, I was like,
00:55:37.949 --> 00:55:40.150
oh, okay. So this is like prehistoric rotten
00:55:40.150 --> 00:55:43.489
.com. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's not even really
00:55:43.489 --> 00:55:47.329
a movie. It's like it is something that is trying
00:55:47.329 --> 00:55:51.530
to recreate all these like apothical. I'm going
00:55:51.530 --> 00:55:53.690
to look up if that's a word. It sounds like it.
00:55:53.769 --> 00:55:57.070
It's a word now. It's trying to emulate all these
00:55:57.070 --> 00:56:01.130
like wild stories of like crazy deaths and things
00:56:01.130 --> 00:56:04.650
like that. While. Hypothetical. That's not what
00:56:04.650 --> 00:56:08.119
I was. Oh, okay. Sorry. While also interspersing
00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:12.539
it with real footage of like actual accidents
00:56:12.539 --> 00:56:17.340
and real people dying. And the effects were believable
00:56:17.340 --> 00:56:20.099
enough in the fake parts that I think this is
00:56:20.099 --> 00:56:22.539
one of those movies like Cannibal Holocaust where
00:56:22.539 --> 00:56:25.539
they got law enforcement involved and they had
00:56:25.539 --> 00:56:28.019
to like explain the special effects and make
00:56:28.019 --> 00:56:30.059
it clear like, no, this is not a snuff film.
00:56:30.260 --> 00:56:32.579
That was the reputation that this was a snuff
00:56:32.579 --> 00:56:36.289
film. But OK, so there is. real footage in it
00:56:36.289 --> 00:56:38.610
though there is and that's actually something
00:56:38.610 --> 00:56:40.969
i guess we could talk about real quick is like
00:56:40.969 --> 00:56:43.869
um this movie it's weird there's a part where
00:56:43.869 --> 00:56:46.449
you know they talk about the original movie because
00:56:46.449 --> 00:56:50.170
it's part of the story and they say like oh yeah
00:56:50.170 --> 00:56:52.230
everything in that they thought it was real but
00:56:52.230 --> 00:56:54.789
it's all special effects and that's not true
00:56:54.789 --> 00:56:57.730
that's not true at all like all the big scenes
00:56:57.730 --> 00:57:00.650
in that were fake but they definitely included
00:57:00.650 --> 00:57:04.130
actual footage so it's weird that they like skipped
00:57:04.130 --> 00:57:07.179
over that I think it's weird to lie about it.
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:09.360
Honestly, I think even if it's just like you're
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:13.460
doing this for the movie, it feels dishonest.
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:16.800
And it definitely took me out when they started
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:18.880
showing footage because I've never seen it before.
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:21.699
And I was like, I didn't know if I was going
00:57:21.699 --> 00:57:24.780
to be watching something real or if it was special
00:57:24.780 --> 00:57:26.760
effects. And I don't like that. It took me out.
00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:32.500
That's a whole can of worms, as they say. I think
00:57:32.500 --> 00:57:34.219
the movie has a lot of interesting things to
00:57:34.219 --> 00:57:37.460
say about that. We'll definitely talk about that.
00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:40.179
But yeah, the only stuff they show in this, it's
00:57:40.179 --> 00:57:42.760
from the made up scenes that are just special
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:45.500
effects. And that's confirmed. Oh, yeah. I think
00:57:45.500 --> 00:57:48.280
it would totally go against the themes of the
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:52.329
movie if they did that. I do think. I think they
00:57:52.329 --> 00:57:54.690
should have been honest and said it was real
00:57:54.690 --> 00:57:57.510
and fake footage. I think it's weird. That's
00:57:57.510 --> 00:58:00.510
what's weird. Because there are a lot of people
00:58:00.510 --> 00:58:02.869
like me who have never heard of this movie. And
00:58:02.869 --> 00:58:05.489
you're just going to take that as fact. Because
00:58:05.489 --> 00:58:07.530
why wouldn't you? Well, I'm wondering if there's
00:58:07.530 --> 00:58:09.610
like context that I missed. Because I know when
00:58:09.610 --> 00:58:11.650
they said that, it made me stop for a second.
00:58:11.710 --> 00:58:13.530
Because I was like, wait, what? Like, I'm pretty
00:58:13.530 --> 00:58:16.429
sure that's not true. And it kind of threw me
00:58:16.429 --> 00:58:19.909
off for a minute. So maybe I'm like missing something
00:58:19.909 --> 00:58:22.429
in the way this was. done in the movie but that
00:58:22.429 --> 00:58:24.409
like yeah that did surprise me and people should
00:58:24.409 --> 00:58:27.170
know that yes there are real people dying in
00:58:27.170 --> 00:58:30.210
the original yeah but the movie i'll give it
00:58:30.210 --> 00:58:33.030
a lot of credit i think it's not as clever as
00:58:33.030 --> 00:58:36.369
it wants to be but it is more clever than i expected
00:58:36.369 --> 00:58:40.530
it to be because specifically it's a it's a woman
00:58:40.530 --> 00:58:45.230
played by barbie ferreira i've tried for so long
00:58:45.230 --> 00:58:47.889
not to say people's names on here because i can't
00:58:47.889 --> 00:58:52.880
pronounce But she works at this like fake TikTok
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:56.219
as part of like the moderation crew, which like,
00:58:56.280 --> 00:58:58.880
oh, that's that's quaint. Because I highly doubt
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:01.440
there's real people reviewing this shit, especially
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:04.340
now. Honestly, I think a lot of it is a work
00:59:04.340 --> 00:59:06.460
from home situation. I'm not sure. No, she was
00:59:06.460 --> 00:59:08.539
in office. No, no, no. I mean, in real life.
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:11.079
Oh, yeah. Well, that's see that. I don't know
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:13.460
about that because the security aspect of that
00:59:13.460 --> 00:59:15.460
seems really crazy. I don't know. I don't know
00:59:15.460 --> 00:59:17.780
anything. I don't know either, but I've only
00:59:17.780 --> 00:59:20.360
gone off like things I've seen on TikTok, people
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:22.880
talking about the moderation, but I don't know.
00:59:23.179 --> 00:59:26.380
Definitely seems to be. I mean, if they do exist,
00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:29.199
these are the people that are all over our fucking
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:32.079
TikTok account because I swear, I swear to God,
00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:33.820
I'm not going to go into a whole thing about
00:59:33.820 --> 00:59:37.119
this, but I'll never forget when we posted our
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:41.539
Thanksgiving episode on Thanksgiving and it was
00:59:41.539 --> 00:59:45.159
getting rejected over and over and over for community
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:49.429
shit. And I was losing my fucking mind going
00:59:49.429 --> 00:59:52.050
through the video, like frame by frame, like
00:59:52.050 --> 00:59:54.909
what could this be? And there was a part where
00:59:54.909 --> 00:59:57.849
a police officer is holding a gun for literally
00:59:57.849 --> 01:00:01.730
like three frames. So I took that out and then
01:00:01.730 --> 01:00:06.710
it just went right through. Like, it sucks. And
01:00:06.710 --> 01:00:08.949
that was like actually something that happened
01:00:08.949 --> 01:00:10.769
in this movie that was so interesting. There
01:00:10.769 --> 01:00:13.980
is like. She would keep getting these like instructional
01:00:13.980 --> 01:00:17.539
videos, like specifically for like feminine problems,
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:20.900
you know, and she would reject those against,
01:00:20.980 --> 01:00:22.900
you know, community guidelines. And then she'd
01:00:22.900 --> 01:00:25.860
get some like fake horror movie. And it actually
01:00:25.860 --> 01:00:30.219
it felt very timely because her supervisor was
01:00:30.219 --> 01:00:31.920
straight up like, oh, yeah, homegrown horror
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:34.760
stuff. That's so hot. Like, put that out there,
01:00:34.900 --> 01:00:38.099
which is how this killer's stuff winds up on
01:00:38.099 --> 01:00:40.460
the platform. But I mean, there's like there's
01:00:40.460 --> 01:00:43.260
obvious messaging there. There does seem to be
01:00:43.260 --> 01:00:47.179
something being said about, you know, extreme
01:00:47.179 --> 01:00:50.099
violence in movies with special effects versus
01:00:50.099 --> 01:00:55.039
real video of people being killed, because we've
01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:56.800
talked about that, that that's something that
01:00:56.800 --> 01:01:00.159
really bothers us. And I think there are a lot
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.219
of people who look at horror fans a certain way
01:01:02.219 --> 01:01:05.099
because they think, oh, we just love blood and
01:01:05.099 --> 01:01:08.000
violence and all this awful shit, not realizing
01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:11.389
like. No, I can tell the difference between what's
01:01:11.389 --> 01:01:14.809
real and what's not very easily. And I can watch
01:01:14.809 --> 01:01:16.949
something like Terrifier, have a good time with
01:01:16.949 --> 01:01:19.489
those special effects. But then watching someone
01:01:19.489 --> 01:01:21.369
get hit by a car or something is fucking awful.
01:01:21.510 --> 01:01:24.389
And I never want to see that. There's such a
01:01:24.389 --> 01:01:27.269
huge line. It also plays into like, you know,
01:01:27.289 --> 01:01:31.230
I got in the horror very young. And I think that's
01:01:31.230 --> 01:01:33.909
an attitude that's changing a lot nowadays, especially.
01:01:34.230 --> 01:01:37.130
It's not the Wild West like it used to be. But
01:01:37.130 --> 01:01:40.050
like I could tell. Something was a special effect.
01:01:40.250 --> 01:01:43.250
And even though I know I opened this by talking
01:01:43.250 --> 01:01:47.650
about rotten .com and shit, that stuff like did
01:01:47.650 --> 01:01:50.670
have a much different effect on me. And I do
01:01:50.670 --> 01:01:52.789
think that's shit that like I should not have
01:01:52.789 --> 01:01:54.650
been looking at that when I was a teenager. No,
01:01:54.769 --> 01:01:57.610
of course. But I could tell the difference and
01:01:57.610 --> 01:02:00.730
it definitely affected me differently. And it's
01:02:00.730 --> 01:02:03.150
an important distinction. It's something that,
01:02:03.150 --> 01:02:05.920
yeah, they. do play with in this movie. And it's
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:07.659
tied to the original Face of the Death. So you
01:02:07.659 --> 01:02:10.179
kind of have to address that. And it's part of
01:02:10.179 --> 01:02:12.059
the reason why when I look at that original,
01:02:12.300 --> 01:02:15.840
that shit is trash. Like that is not like that
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:17.679
shouldn't be regarded as like a part of horror
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:20.260
history or anything. And actually, I think it's
01:02:20.260 --> 01:02:22.639
exploitive. It goes against everything that I
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:25.179
love about horror, which is that nobody gets
01:02:25.179 --> 01:02:28.320
hurt. Like one of the top things. And it's fucked
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:31.300
up because I read there were families of people
01:02:31.300 --> 01:02:34.179
that were a part of that who were like, trying
01:02:34.179 --> 01:02:36.099
to keep the footage out of the movie and they
01:02:36.099 --> 01:02:38.780
were ignored. That is fucked up. That is fucked
01:02:38.780 --> 01:02:40.659
up. And honestly, I think it's even more fucked
01:02:40.659 --> 01:02:42.920
up that the movie has now ignored that history
01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:45.539
of it. Look, I'm trying not to go too hard because
01:02:45.539 --> 01:02:48.460
I'm wondering if I missed something. But yeah,
01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:52.800
that does seem like a kind of dark spot. A movie
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:56.019
that is actually like my thing when I got halfway
01:02:56.019 --> 01:02:58.019
through it came up with the genius fucking joke
01:02:58.019 --> 01:03:01.519
that this is more like Faces of Woke because
01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:05.909
the movie does feel... surprisingly woke with
01:03:05.909 --> 01:03:09.170
the subject matter and everything I mean think
01:03:09.170 --> 01:03:11.730
about like I don't I don't want to go too far
01:03:11.730 --> 01:03:15.329
in deep tale but like there are some uh dog shit
01:03:15.329 --> 01:03:19.969
ass cops in this that completely ignore the female
01:03:19.969 --> 01:03:24.650
late lead character yep in favor of a man which
01:03:24.650 --> 01:03:28.010
uh also I would say that scene was really triggering
01:03:28.010 --> 01:03:30.980
I could tell yeah it was uh i mean it's real
01:03:30.980 --> 01:03:34.679
it's very real it is very real yes speaking of
01:03:34.679 --> 01:03:38.099
this uh this dude though this movie has the stranger
01:03:38.099 --> 01:03:41.900
things freak playing the killer billy billy it
01:03:41.900 --> 01:03:45.019
took us like half of the movie yeah i think you
01:03:45.019 --> 01:03:47.360
pointed it out and i was like oh yeah that is
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:49.539
him well the whole the whole time i'm like i
01:03:49.539 --> 01:03:54.079
know this freak like who is this guy It drove
01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:56.139
me so crazy. I had to look it up. And yeah, it's
01:03:56.139 --> 01:03:58.059
like apparently you just shave off his mustache
01:03:58.059 --> 01:04:00.739
and he's like a completely new dude. I thought
01:04:00.739 --> 01:04:03.760
he was actually pretty great. Yeah, I think him
01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:06.639
and Barbie did a really good job. He's good at
01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:11.099
playing that kind of freak. Like he has this
01:04:11.099 --> 01:04:14.519
like he has this like intimidating kind of cold
01:04:14.519 --> 01:04:18.460
energy. You can definitely trace it back to the
01:04:18.460 --> 01:04:21.320
Stranger Things guy. But that element of it,
01:04:21.340 --> 01:04:24.139
like as a slasher. Was pretty effective. He was
01:04:24.139 --> 01:04:25.820
pretty good. You said that he was, like, the
01:04:25.820 --> 01:04:28.079
collector's son. Yeah. I don't know if you remember
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:30.440
that. Yeah, I forgot about that. That cracked
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:34.260
me up. Because he is also, like, very fucking
01:04:34.260 --> 01:04:37.659
overpowered. Yeah. Like, he's able to... He's,
01:04:37.679 --> 01:04:39.639
like, a master of disguise. He could, like, trick
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:42.019
the cops and everything by dressing up and acting.
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:45.019
But then he also... The way he would, like, stalk
01:04:45.019 --> 01:04:47.659
people and fuck with them and, like, is also,
01:04:47.739 --> 01:04:50.599
like, a fucking martial arts master or some shit.
01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:54.699
too overpowered he also had these like elaborate
01:04:54.699 --> 01:04:58.239
killing things that he did which is also very
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:00.659
collector -like i mean that was uh yeah that's
01:05:00.659 --> 01:05:02.780
the whole idea is it's it's like i said it's
01:05:02.780 --> 01:05:05.219
recreating the setups from the original movie
01:05:05.219 --> 01:05:09.860
um as tiktok shorts which were popping off yeah
01:05:09.860 --> 01:05:13.900
they were it's funny i saw that like this was
01:05:13.900 --> 01:05:17.800
uh really made in 2024 okay i can't remember
01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:20.420
if it was like in pre -production for a long
01:05:20.420 --> 01:05:22.260
time or if it was shot early but i know there
01:05:22.260 --> 01:05:25.679
were some decisions made oh no they shot it they
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:30.780
shot it around 2026 because in 2024 no so this
01:05:30.780 --> 01:05:33.559
was like conceived and written in 2024 i think
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:37.659
it had a long pre -production okay because when
01:05:37.659 --> 01:05:40.780
it was first being pitched apparently they had
01:05:40.780 --> 01:05:43.760
to explain tick tock to the studios oh my god
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:46.360
think about think about 2024 it's like not even
01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:49.099
that long ago When they were finally getting
01:05:49.099 --> 01:05:52.199
around to making this, they had to tangle with
01:05:52.199 --> 01:05:55.880
the idea that, you know, now AI is so prevalent
01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:59.400
and that would completely wreck the entire story
01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:02.179
of this movie. So that's why the movie actually
01:06:02.179 --> 01:06:04.780
takes place in 2024. Because they were like,
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:07.619
let's just not even write that shit into the
01:06:07.619 --> 01:06:10.179
story. Let's just say, no, this is two years
01:06:10.179 --> 01:06:12.599
ago. And it did make me realize, like, we are
01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:16.539
running into a whole new problem in horror where,
01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:20.659
like. But I mean, you just rolled your eyes hard
01:06:20.659 --> 01:06:22.840
as shit. I'm not even talking about that. Yeah,
01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:26.420
I'm over it. I'm not getting into that. But you
01:06:26.420 --> 01:06:29.880
think about how the cell phone was such a problem
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:32.219
when they were writing Harmony. Because it's
01:06:32.219 --> 01:06:34.360
like, oh, there's a killer. Pull out your fucking
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:36.500
cell phone and call the cops. So you have to
01:06:36.500 --> 01:06:37.880
come up with a reason like, oh, shit, there's
01:06:37.880 --> 01:06:41.159
no service. Or, oh, you dropped it. Or the killer
01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:43.559
took it. Like they have to write that into the
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:47.650
movie. And I think moving forward. we're going
01:06:47.650 --> 01:06:49.710
to have to tangle with like the existence of
01:06:49.710 --> 01:06:52.969
AI. So anytime there's like internet videos or
01:06:52.969 --> 01:06:55.369
something featured in a movie, they have to have
01:06:55.369 --> 01:07:00.150
some line about AI to like write that off. Kind
01:07:00.150 --> 01:07:02.550
of sucks. But that's like, it's just weird that
01:07:02.550 --> 01:07:04.909
that's a new like cultural touchstone in horror.
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:08.119
I would refuse to call it that. I think it's
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:11.860
going to be like a smear. A really dirty smear
01:07:11.860 --> 01:07:16.059
on the history of film and art. It's a new thing
01:07:16.059 --> 01:07:18.519
that has to be considered. Mark my words, the
01:07:18.519 --> 01:07:20.960
bubble will pop. It's already starting to pop.
01:07:21.159 --> 01:07:25.539
It's coming. But overall, I mean, I was kind
01:07:25.539 --> 01:07:30.079
of surprised. It wasn't what I expected in a
01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:32.659
good way. And I think as a slasher, it does a
01:07:32.659 --> 01:07:34.730
pretty good job. Like maybe could have used a
01:07:34.730 --> 01:07:37.750
little more slashing, but it surprised me. I
01:07:37.750 --> 01:07:40.909
mean, how did you feel about it overall? I have
01:07:40.909 --> 01:07:44.909
mixed feelings on it. Yeah. I was triggered towards
01:07:44.909 --> 01:07:47.849
the end and that kind of like took me out for
01:07:47.849 --> 01:07:51.309
a little bit. Yeah, it was tough. Yeah. But I
01:07:51.309 --> 01:07:56.210
really liked Barbie and Dacker. I'm sorry. I
01:07:56.210 --> 01:07:57.809
don't know how to say that. You could take the
01:07:57.809 --> 01:08:00.369
heat for that one instead of me for once. I don't
01:08:00.369 --> 01:08:05.460
know. What's his last name? Montgomery. Mr. Montgomery.
01:08:06.300 --> 01:08:10.460
His performance. I think they both did really
01:08:10.460 --> 01:08:13.500
well. I would really love to see Barbie as a
01:08:13.500 --> 01:08:16.479
scream queen or something or final girl in another
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:19.460
movie. I think she did really well. But overall,
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:23.260
I thought the premise of this being like TikTok
01:08:23.260 --> 01:08:26.500
moderator doing like like looking through finding
01:08:26.500 --> 01:08:28.500
a serial killer. I think that whole premise is
01:08:28.500 --> 01:08:31.239
really interesting. My personal take is that.
01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:34.239
they didn't need to faces of death they could
01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:37.279
have made it this their own thing inspired by
01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:39.300
this and i think it might have been a little
01:08:39.300 --> 01:08:42.539
stronger but that's me coming from not knowing
01:08:42.539 --> 01:08:45.380
what faces of death was before this i yeah i
01:08:45.380 --> 01:08:47.399
was gonna say i think the problem is just that
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:51.239
maybe this generation and i'm not trying to act
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:53.180
like like we're the same fucking generation but
01:08:53.180 --> 01:08:56.079
i mean like there are there are still a lot of
01:08:56.079 --> 01:08:58.779
people who don't really know about that movie
01:08:58.779 --> 01:09:01.579
i think it was like very infamous back then it
01:09:01.579 --> 01:09:04.859
has kind of fallen out of the cultural consciousness
01:09:04.859 --> 01:09:08.920
in a way that's maybe okay so yeah it is kind
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:11.159
of it's kind of weird to hinge the story on that
01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:13.819
when uh it's probably going over a lot of people's
01:09:13.819 --> 01:09:17.380
heads maybe i mean when we record this stuff
01:09:17.380 --> 01:09:19.899
i try to not read reviews or anything until after
01:09:19.899 --> 01:09:23.560
so i met i'm curious to like see like maybe on
01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:26.659
letterboxd like what people are saying about
01:09:26.659 --> 01:09:29.800
this if people knew about faces of death like
01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:34.739
what the ratio is there yeah yeah um but why
01:09:34.739 --> 01:09:36.979
don't we let's quickly do a content warning um
01:09:36.979 --> 01:09:40.659
i think oddly enough this doesn't have like as
01:09:40.659 --> 01:09:42.880
much of a content warning as i expected it to
01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:46.319
because it is like you know it's based on that
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:49.340
movie which is known for the extreme violence
01:09:49.340 --> 01:09:52.340
um and it's imitating these kills but i think
01:09:52.340 --> 01:09:54.750
like At the end of the day, it's actually not
01:09:54.750 --> 01:09:58.010
super graphic, I think, with the kills. Yeah,
01:09:58.130 --> 01:10:00.829
I think since they like set up the premise of
01:10:00.829 --> 01:10:03.750
it, you kind of like know what to expect gore
01:10:03.750 --> 01:10:06.229
wise. Well, even specifically, some of them are
01:10:06.229 --> 01:10:08.390
like, you know, this isn't really spoilers is
01:10:08.390 --> 01:10:12.029
early in the movie. There's a guy getting electrocuted,
01:10:12.050 --> 01:10:16.010
you know, and that's not exactly a super gory
01:10:16.010 --> 01:10:19.319
one to choose for this. So it feels like they
01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:21.600
don't go like all the way with that. Yeah. They
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:24.239
never really feel like super dreadful either.
01:10:24.619 --> 01:10:27.239
It's just kind of. This is why I do feel like
01:10:27.239 --> 01:10:29.640
it should have been detached a little bit from
01:10:29.640 --> 01:10:31.500
Faces of Death and been its own thing. Because
01:10:31.500 --> 01:10:33.880
I don't know. Maybe they could have. Could have
01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:36.079
reframed it. Been a little more creative. I don't
01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:38.640
know. I don't want to shit on it too much. There's
01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:41.100
parts of it that I did like. No, I liked it.
01:10:42.199 --> 01:10:44.460
Yeah, that's just the thing is that was our expectation
01:10:44.460 --> 01:10:46.479
going in was we thought this was going to fuck
01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:48.840
us up and be like Terrifier level is nothing
01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:52.000
like that. It's actually like pretty average
01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:55.640
for a slasher, I think. But do you want to mention
01:10:55.640 --> 01:10:58.680
the other thing that really got you? It's a really
01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:01.819
complicated thing to try to put into words or
01:11:01.819 --> 01:11:06.100
label. It's just there's a scene where this woman,
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:09.390
the main character, she's like. clearly in distress
01:11:09.390 --> 01:11:11.689
i think she's even like covered in blood or something
01:11:11.689 --> 01:11:13.949
like she's like really stressed out and trying
01:11:13.949 --> 01:11:16.550
to tell them what's happening and they don't
01:11:16.550 --> 01:11:19.090
believe her and in fact they take her to the
01:11:19.090 --> 01:11:21.930
fucking house and that is what well that's like
01:11:21.930 --> 01:11:25.130
she gets framed as like being crazy right yeah
01:11:25.130 --> 01:11:28.529
and they immediately are like okay yeah like
01:11:28.529 --> 01:11:30.710
they don't even question it or anything like
01:11:30.710 --> 01:11:32.890
oh okay she's crazy just because they believe
01:11:32.890 --> 01:11:37.010
what he said so that part is pretty triggering
01:11:37.609 --> 01:11:40.489
uh yeah we try not to get like super specific
01:11:40.489 --> 01:11:44.170
with triggers but if it affects one of us of
01:11:44.170 --> 01:11:46.409
course we're going to talk about it so something
01:11:46.409 --> 01:11:48.109
to keep in mind if that's something you think
01:11:48.109 --> 01:11:51.510
would affect you yeah and then there's also uh
01:11:51.510 --> 01:11:55.090
grief grief is kind of like the underlying like
01:11:55.090 --> 01:11:58.229
map of this story hey that's nothing that's a
01:11:58.229 --> 01:12:01.729
lot of horror so yeah it's gonna sneak its way
01:12:01.729 --> 01:12:06.710
into everything but yeah it was um It was better
01:12:06.710 --> 01:12:09.829
than I expected. And I think what got me the
01:12:09.829 --> 01:12:11.810
most, it's like I said, as a slasher, I think
01:12:11.810 --> 01:12:14.850
it's pretty average. But I think everything it
01:12:14.850 --> 01:12:18.550
was doing with the messaging, the bigger story
01:12:18.550 --> 01:12:21.829
beats, I think it affected me personally just
01:12:21.829 --> 01:12:24.569
because I didn't expect it. I didn't expect it
01:12:24.569 --> 01:12:27.289
to go that way. And I always like when a movie
01:12:27.289 --> 01:12:28.970
can kind of surprise me, even though it's not
01:12:28.970 --> 01:12:31.609
like the most surprising thing. I think I just
01:12:31.609 --> 01:12:34.050
really did not go into it thinking that's the
01:12:34.050 --> 01:12:37.050
direction it was going to go. Yeah, I really
01:12:37.050 --> 01:12:40.729
like Charlie XCX, her part. She's like... I didn't
01:12:40.729 --> 01:12:42.989
know she was in it. Oh, yeah. Well, you know
01:12:42.989 --> 01:12:44.909
what was really good about that is like at first
01:12:44.909 --> 01:12:47.770
I was like, is that Charlie XCX? I didn't realize
01:12:47.770 --> 01:12:50.670
she was in this movie. Who is she? She's in the
01:12:50.670 --> 01:12:53.050
office. She's like the girl that's hanging out
01:12:53.050 --> 01:12:55.050
on the rooftop. And then she kind of like bullies
01:12:55.050 --> 01:12:59.510
her a little bit, I think. Okay. Yeah. But I
01:12:59.510 --> 01:13:02.510
don't know. I like seeing pop girlies coming
01:13:02.510 --> 01:13:05.829
into horror. There's a lot of that lately. So
01:13:05.829 --> 01:13:07.789
yeah, it was a fun one. But I think that's all
01:13:07.789 --> 01:13:11.609
I got. Then let's rank it. This might be kind
01:13:11.609 --> 01:13:14.409
of spicy. Okay. Let's see how you feel. Okay.
01:13:15.289 --> 01:13:19.609
I put it below VHS Halloween, but above Evil
01:13:19.609 --> 01:13:25.390
Dead Burn. Yeah, I don't know about that. Okay,
01:13:25.470 --> 01:13:30.449
okay. Almost slipped that through. I put it above
01:13:30.449 --> 01:13:33.189
Last Voyage of the Demeter, below Evil Dead Burn.
01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:36.779
So you really like this, huh? You really didn't
01:13:36.779 --> 01:13:39.500
like this? I mean, like, it was okay. We can
01:13:39.500 --> 01:13:41.659
keep it there. It's fine. You want to move it
01:13:41.659 --> 01:13:43.520
down more? No, that's okay. I don't want to,
01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:46.520
especially if you liked it. Keep it there. Oh,
01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:51.039
fuck. Hold on. I know. The list is insane. Okay,
01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:53.119
this is why we got to fix the list. And what's
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:56.899
funny is we're recording this separately. But
01:13:56.899 --> 01:13:58.600
I think this might be in the episode where we
01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:03.510
do that. Okay. I put it above Bone Lake, below
01:14:03.510 --> 01:14:06.350
The Collection. Yeah, it should be with his daddy.
01:14:06.369 --> 01:14:09.949
That makes more sense. That puts it at number
01:14:09.949 --> 01:14:17.550
140 on our list. For now. We also watched Exit
01:14:17.550 --> 01:14:21.529
8, which was released in America in 2026, in
01:14:21.529 --> 01:14:28.189
Japan in 2025, directed by Genki Kawamura. And
01:14:28.189 --> 01:14:33.550
I saw he directed a... um drama before this but
01:14:33.550 --> 01:14:37.289
this is uh the only horror movie that uh was
01:14:37.289 --> 01:14:40.189
on his filmography i feel like this movie came
01:14:40.189 --> 01:14:43.689
out because everyone saw the back rooms and what
01:14:43.689 --> 01:14:46.170
that was doing and they were like we need that
01:14:46.170 --> 01:14:48.470
fucking liminal horror we need this shit right
01:14:48.470 --> 01:14:50.949
now because i think it only got like a limited
01:14:50.949 --> 01:14:54.029
theatrical release i think that makes sense because
01:14:54.029 --> 01:14:56.470
i i think i might have remembered looking up
01:14:56.470 --> 01:14:59.550
showtimes and it was like impossible yep but
01:14:59.550 --> 01:15:03.270
uh did you know this is based on a video game
01:15:03.270 --> 01:15:07.569
no okay did i tell you that while we were watching
01:15:07.569 --> 01:15:11.449
it no because i said are they gonna make a game
01:15:11.449 --> 01:15:16.409
of this and you're like it's already yeah so
01:15:16.409 --> 01:15:19.470
i guess we should say um i know this is based
01:15:19.470 --> 01:15:22.770
on a game i know nothing about the game at all
01:15:22.770 --> 01:15:26.069
no idea take that into account with our commentary
01:15:26.069 --> 01:15:29.619
here because i think like I mean, it did remind
01:15:29.619 --> 01:15:32.699
me of PT, which I am aware of. There's a reason
01:15:32.699 --> 01:15:35.720
why you ask that. And it's because the movie
01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:39.340
feels like a video game. Yeah. And it's so funny
01:15:39.340 --> 01:15:42.039
because what I was thinking early on, I was like,
01:15:42.100 --> 01:15:45.439
man, I wish I didn't know this was based on a
01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:47.960
game because it made it feel a little awkward.
01:15:48.060 --> 01:15:50.739
But the fact that you said that anyways means
01:15:50.739 --> 01:15:53.939
I think maybe that is just a big problem with
01:15:53.939 --> 01:15:57.869
the movie itself. Maybe. Because it's a cool
01:15:57.869 --> 01:16:00.689
concept. If you don't know what this is about,
01:16:00.949 --> 01:16:03.350
the easiest way to explain it without spoilers
01:16:03.350 --> 01:16:07.930
is you have this lead character who is just called
01:16:07.930 --> 01:16:11.350
the Lost Man. He isn't even given a name. He's
01:16:11.350 --> 01:16:13.689
going through a Japanese subway when he finds
01:16:13.689 --> 01:16:17.609
himself in these repeating hallways. And he's
01:16:17.609 --> 01:16:21.430
tasked with this rule that if there are no anomalies,
01:16:21.609 --> 01:16:24.890
he should move forward. If there is an anomaly...
01:16:25.390 --> 01:16:27.270
You go backward. I think it's the other way,
01:16:27.390 --> 01:16:30.210
isn't it? Oh, wait, no. Yeah, no, it is that
01:16:30.210 --> 01:16:32.670
way. Because it's scarier that way. Because like,
01:16:32.729 --> 01:16:34.829
fuck, I got to go back through here. Yes. And
01:16:34.829 --> 01:16:37.050
it counts up. And so when you get to exit eight,
01:16:37.130 --> 01:16:41.029
that's when you leave, I guess. I don't think
01:16:41.029 --> 01:16:42.770
any of that's a spoiler. I think that's just
01:16:42.770 --> 01:16:46.590
like the setup. And I think honestly, as a horror
01:16:46.590 --> 01:16:49.850
movie, that's a really interesting concept. You
01:16:49.850 --> 01:16:52.109
know, horror, it really thrives when you have
01:16:52.109 --> 01:16:54.609
a simple idea. You can get across like that.
01:16:55.180 --> 01:16:57.680
And I think that's like that's great. That works.
01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:02.960
But the way that it is shot, the way that I mean,
01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:04.979
the whole beginning of the movie is first person,
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:07.779
which made it really feel like a video game.
01:17:07.880 --> 01:17:10.340
Yeah, that was kind of interesting, though. The
01:17:10.340 --> 01:17:12.340
first person gave a little bit of like a found
01:17:12.340 --> 01:17:15.319
footage esque feel to it. Yeah, it was still
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:17.279
cool. This would have been really good as found
01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:21.380
footage. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe better. But the way
01:17:21.380 --> 01:17:25.319
that he is progressing, the way that he's looking
01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:28.079
at the details, it does feel like, oh, I kind
01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:30.279
of want to play this. This seems pretty fun.
01:17:30.420 --> 01:17:34.640
It's like a puzzle game. But it had a negative
01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:36.420
effect on me, though. It kind of took me out
01:17:36.420 --> 01:17:38.680
of it. Okay. Was that not a problem for you?
01:17:38.680 --> 01:17:41.439
I don't think it was really a problem for me.
01:17:41.500 --> 01:17:44.939
I think because I find... i find the game pt
01:17:44.939 --> 01:17:47.380
very nostalgic for some reason i find it very
01:17:47.380 --> 01:17:50.479
comforting it's really weird there's a specific
01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:53.460
playthrough that i love watching over and over
01:17:53.460 --> 01:17:57.239
which is uh it was a giant bomb at the time yeah
01:17:57.239 --> 01:18:02.899
yeah uh it's giant bomb uh vinnie and abby they
01:18:02.899 --> 01:18:06.720
did this like six scary frights or whatever what
01:18:06.720 --> 01:18:10.119
was it called i can't remember like we love re
01:18:10.119 --> 01:18:14.140
-watching those and For some reason, like that
01:18:14.140 --> 01:18:17.199
is what clicked in is like, OK, it put me in
01:18:17.199 --> 01:18:20.739
a good spot with that because I love that playthrough
01:18:20.739 --> 01:18:23.479
specifically so much. I've watched it so many
01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:27.239
times. You say six crazy fights. I don't remember.
01:18:27.739 --> 01:18:31.979
I don't remember what I said. When we say six
01:18:31.979 --> 01:18:41.539
crazy fights. Six crazy fights. Six Crazy Frights
01:18:41.539 --> 01:18:45.779
is an annual tradition. It's fantastic. Maybe
01:18:45.779 --> 01:18:49.899
it took me out of... I think my problem is this
01:18:49.899 --> 01:18:54.199
had the potential to be this very strong existential
01:18:54.199 --> 01:18:57.800
horror movie that the sense of being trapped
01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:01.819
in there is very palpable and very scary. I think
01:19:01.819 --> 01:19:04.359
that was the scariest element to me because it
01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:06.659
seems like the game fucks with you. Whatever
01:19:06.659 --> 01:19:09.850
the fuck this is, fucks with you. to keep you
01:19:09.850 --> 01:19:12.649
there yeah so it's like when you right when you
01:19:12.649 --> 01:19:15.710
think you're about to get to the end it'll hit
01:19:15.710 --> 01:19:18.170
you with something tiny to fuck you up i will
01:19:18.170 --> 01:19:20.850
say this movie has really strong references because
01:19:20.850 --> 01:19:24.989
it's referencing mc escher artist that does really
01:19:24.989 --> 01:19:29.909
crazy like illusionary art where it's like looks
01:19:29.909 --> 01:19:32.050
impossible well there's even like an mc escher
01:19:32.050 --> 01:19:35.310
poster in the movie yeah It's heavily influenced
01:19:35.310 --> 01:19:37.430
by that. And, well, one, I think it might be
01:19:37.430 --> 01:19:42.630
a spoiler if I say... No, okay. That's too far.
01:19:42.869 --> 01:19:45.569
Okay. Well, I have nothing else to say then because
01:19:45.569 --> 01:19:50.989
I'll spoil it. I'm trying not to say too much
01:19:50.989 --> 01:19:53.829
about what happens. But, like, I think you were
01:19:53.829 --> 01:19:56.449
really on the money saying this could have been
01:19:56.449 --> 01:19:59.069
a great found footage movie. I think there was
01:19:59.069 --> 01:20:02.130
more potential to push the horror side of it.
01:20:02.430 --> 01:20:04.210
Because there are parts where it can get pretty
01:20:04.210 --> 01:20:08.229
intense and really frightening, but I feel like
01:20:08.229 --> 01:20:10.289
it didn't fully meet its potential. I think there
01:20:10.289 --> 01:20:15.909
also is some weird acting in it. Well, I will
01:20:15.909 --> 01:20:20.149
say you telling me that the director's last horror
01:20:20.149 --> 01:20:23.670
movie or last movie was a drama makes a lot of
01:20:23.670 --> 01:20:25.609
sense. Oh, I was getting to that. This feels
01:20:25.609 --> 01:20:29.229
a lot more like a drama than a horror, which
01:20:29.229 --> 01:20:32.529
is okay. can happen i just don't feel like it
01:20:32.529 --> 01:20:36.229
fits the tone i'm gonna say this shit was some
01:20:36.229 --> 01:20:39.109
serious dad propaganda that i did not appreciate
01:20:39.109 --> 01:20:43.869
what oh oh yeah no this is definitely like yeah
01:20:43.869 --> 01:20:46.569
there's definitely propaganda in there to like
01:20:46.569 --> 01:20:49.489
have kids like yeah and i think like that's like
01:20:49.489 --> 01:20:52.710
a thing in japan yes that's the population like
01:20:52.710 --> 01:20:54.770
also weird it's happening all around the world
01:20:54.770 --> 01:20:57.550
like shocker people don't have kids right now
01:20:57.550 --> 01:21:00.130
if you have kids that's great i'm not saying
01:21:01.130 --> 01:21:03.590
Don't come after me. Look, I'm saying it's a
01:21:03.590 --> 01:21:08.689
personal decision. When you start with the personal
01:21:08.689 --> 01:21:11.789
decision, we've gone too far. No, it's not about
01:21:11.789 --> 01:21:16.130
that. What I'm saying is like, it's okay. All
01:21:16.130 --> 01:21:18.510
I was saying is there's just this element of
01:21:18.510 --> 01:21:23.850
like melodrama, which on the one hand, the movie
01:21:23.850 --> 01:21:26.130
has an idea of what this represents. I don't
01:21:26.130 --> 01:21:29.279
want to like say too much there. about the themes
01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:32.460
but it definitely seems to be it's definitely
01:21:32.460 --> 01:21:36.340
representing something in this guy's life it's
01:21:36.340 --> 01:21:38.460
actually very similar to the back rooms the way
01:21:38.460 --> 01:21:42.539
that um what was that guy's name clark the way
01:21:42.539 --> 01:21:45.300
that clark's subconscious was being reflected
01:21:45.300 --> 01:21:47.399
in the back rooms and that's a big part of the
01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:50.699
story this is doing like a very similar thing
01:21:50.699 --> 01:21:55.079
which on its face is like it's good it's very
01:21:55.079 --> 01:21:57.939
effective But yeah, when it starts getting super
01:21:57.939 --> 01:22:01.319
melodramatic, it's like, dude, I get it. I understand
01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:04.439
what you're saying. Like, go a little too far.
01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:07.779
And I wonder if that is like, if this is one
01:22:07.779 --> 01:22:10.920
of those cultural things that if you're living
01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:14.020
in Japan, you're picking up something else from
01:22:14.020 --> 01:22:17.220
the themes. So that is interesting by itself.
01:22:17.300 --> 01:22:20.079
But like, I was just I was hoping for more horror.
01:22:20.199 --> 01:22:23.960
I think there was a lot more space for existential
01:22:23.960 --> 01:22:28.340
horror. Just ways to like really fuck with you.
01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:31.520
And I think maybe it didn't meet that potential.
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:35.180
But overall, it was still like, it was super
01:22:35.180 --> 01:22:38.779
cool. Yeah. I definitely liked this. Yeah, I
01:22:38.779 --> 01:22:40.720
liked it too. I think I might have liked it a
01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:44.579
little bit more than you. But I definitely wasn't
01:22:44.579 --> 01:22:48.460
expecting it to be more drama focused. So that
01:22:48.460 --> 01:22:51.180
did throw me a bit. We need to get back in watching
01:22:51.180 --> 01:22:53.460
Japanese horror. We've been kind of out of the
01:22:53.460 --> 01:22:57.819
loop, I feel like. we did have uh do you remember
01:22:57.819 --> 01:23:00.399
at the end of the movie the app crashed on us
01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:04.239
yes oh my god it was so annoying definitely don't
01:23:04.239 --> 01:23:07.520
want to say shit about that but like yeah at
01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:09.539
like the very end of the movie the app crashed
01:23:09.539 --> 01:23:11.640
so it just goes to black and it does it at this
01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:14.760
perfect moment it was like oh shit that's a fucking
01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:17.460
dark ass ending and then it was like oh no the
01:23:17.460 --> 01:23:19.979
app just crashed yeah the ending is also very
01:23:19.979 --> 01:23:23.420
melodramatic whatever that app keeps doing that
01:23:24.140 --> 01:23:27.539
it's like after a certain amount of time it just
01:23:27.539 --> 01:23:29.680
crashes it doesn't make any sense i think it
01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:31.420
said it ran out of memory or something in my
01:23:31.420 --> 01:23:34.100
fucking tv like what are you doing i don't know
01:23:34.100 --> 01:23:38.779
anyway um but for the content warning uh i would
01:23:38.779 --> 01:23:41.760
say like yeah the the themes like look we'll
01:23:41.760 --> 01:23:44.779
say i i was trying not to spoil this but i think
01:23:44.779 --> 01:23:46.600
it's i think it's important in the content warning
01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:51.020
sense there's a lot to do with uh abortion in
01:23:51.020 --> 01:23:53.260
this that's a big part of the the themes around
01:23:53.260 --> 01:23:57.020
this space it's a very psychological movie so
01:23:57.020 --> 01:23:59.699
you don't need to worry about things like violence
01:23:59.699 --> 01:24:01.619
like i don't remember there being any actual
01:24:01.619 --> 01:24:05.100
violence in this um that was pretty mild there's
01:24:05.100 --> 01:24:09.199
like some freaky parts but content warning for
01:24:09.199 --> 01:24:13.060
freaky parts yeah it's like i said it's all it's
01:24:13.060 --> 01:24:15.800
all psychological but the um the overarching
01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:20.399
themes about The dad propaganda versus the abortion
01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:23.640
element, that's the heaviest thing you're going
01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:26.079
to get from this. And that's just very personal.
01:24:27.380 --> 01:24:30.819
But I did enjoy this. I think it's a great concept.
01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:34.000
I love these kind of things. It reminds me of
01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:36.300
every other thing like Cube and everything. I
01:24:36.300 --> 01:24:38.779
guess I didn't even mention that most of the
01:24:38.779 --> 01:24:41.479
movie is just these hallways. You're kind of
01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:44.119
stuck in the same space. And I've said many times
01:24:44.119 --> 01:24:46.369
I like that kind of shit. when you have like
01:24:46.369 --> 01:24:48.890
this small space where everything takes place
01:24:48.890 --> 01:24:51.390
and you have to figure out how to make that interesting
01:24:51.390 --> 01:24:54.470
yeah i enjoy that too it really is almost in
01:24:54.470 --> 01:24:58.090
that cube genre like cube and meander and those
01:24:58.090 --> 01:25:00.609
kind of things because he is like going through
01:25:00.609 --> 01:25:06.329
this space that made me appreciate it well i
01:25:06.329 --> 01:25:10.250
think i think it probably was inspired by that
01:25:10.250 --> 01:25:13.029
i mean i feel like this movie like i said has
01:25:13.029 --> 01:25:15.899
a lot of strong references in it so It's cool.
01:25:16.020 --> 01:25:18.739
Yeah. Yeah, look great, too. Yeah. There's a
01:25:18.739 --> 01:25:21.300
great look to it. There's one reference I can't
01:25:21.300 --> 01:25:23.979
mention because it'll spoil it, but. Okay. Would
01:25:23.979 --> 01:25:25.960
have really loved to talk about that, actually.
01:25:26.779 --> 01:25:29.000
Why don't we, let's rank this on Letterboxd.
01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:33.039
Figured out a pretty good spot. Okay. I put it
01:25:33.039 --> 01:25:37.460
above Clown and Cornfield, below Infested. Yeah,
01:25:37.460 --> 01:25:41.779
that's good. It's number 148 on our list. So
01:25:41.779 --> 01:25:45.600
that's it for this month. Yeah. Reminder, we
01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:48.880
release these episodes last week of every month.
01:25:48.939 --> 01:25:52.760
So next one will be September. And I think we're
01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:56.279
doing Shitterbox. Oh, yeah. Nice. Yeah. Yeah.
01:25:56.340 --> 01:26:01.199
I like Shitterbox a lot. I know you do. But as
01:26:01.199 --> 01:26:04.159
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01:26:29.850 --> 01:26:31.430
don't know if we're going to go with a theme
01:26:31.430 --> 01:26:33.970
next month. We'll figure it out. I'm going to
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try. We should come up with some themes that
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we can ask people for a recommendation. Yeah.
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We'll put that in the next episode. So tune in.
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The last week of September for episode eight,
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I think, of this. All right. Bye.