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Everyone says job-hopping is how you get ahead. Wharton professor Matthew Bidwell has spent 20 years studying careers, and his research says staying put often wins. Steve pushes him on where that holds, where it breaks down, and what it means for your 20s, innovation and AI.
About Matthew
Matthew Bidwell is a professor of management at the Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania, and co-directs the Wharton People Analytics Initiative. He has spent about 20 years researching how careers work, including internal promotion versus external hiring. Before Wharton he taught at INSEAD and worked at McKinsey. His new book, The Insider Advantage: Moving Up, Finding Success, and Building a Career That Lasts, came out from Simon Element in October 2026.
In this episode we discuss
- Insiders vs job-hoppers, and what actually makes someone an "insider"
- Why external hires often cost more and underperform early on
- What insiders have that outsiders can't buy
- Pipeline jobs vs sprinkler jobs, and choosing your next internal move
- Whether your 20s are the time to hop, and Robert Greene's advice to try different things to learn who you are
- The downsides of being a lifer, and what a 20-plus year relationship ending can teach us
- The outsider advantage: Airbnb, first principles thinking and the risk of a narrowing field of vision
- Whether firm-specific knowledge goes stale as AI reshapes roles
- When it's really time to leave
- What leaders should change about hiring and promotion to keep their best people
Links
- The Insider Advantage: matthewbidwell.com/book
- Matthew on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com
- Careering On, his Substack: careeringon.substack.com
- Wharton profile: mgmt.wharton.upenn.edu/profile/mbidwell
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