FIVEAA Breakfast with Will & Stacey - 6 October 2026

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Speaker 4: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee.
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Speaker 1: Not after six. Good morning to you. Welcome to Tuesday on 5AA Breakfast, the 6th of October. Trust you had a terrific long weekend. Unless, of course, you're a hay fever sufferer. And some new evidence has come out this morning that suggests, you know that thing, the pollen count, that we try to give you a bit of a guide of how likely it is to flare up? The correlation's not necessarily as strong as you might think between those people who suffer it And those who are getting it when the pollen is at its highest. We'll explain after 6.30 today, but I think if you're someone that sees that and then goes out and has an attack, this story's for you after 6.30 today. Channel 10's disappearing from our television screens in regional South Australia, the Riverland and Mount Gambier. We're not the only state where this is happening. There was a stay of execution for a period of three months, but 10... 10 Comedy, some of their other digital properties, like 10 Drama as well, won't be broadcast. What does this say about the industry? Where's it heading? How can it be? All this stuff's filmed. It's prepared. It's just not profitable to broadcast. That we need some answers on. We're going to get them with Steve Malt before seven o'clock. After seven, more on the regions. The SA Chamber of Commerce has put out some a document with regard to some of the acute and particularly unique struggles that South Australian regional businesses are facing. We'll get into that. We'll recap what was the last week in sport, federal politics with Phil Currie. Finally, today, we're getting the Libs migration policies coming out. The headline figure might actually be lower than One Nation as well. That's all to come. Stacey, good morning to you.
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Speaker 5: Good morning, Will.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for holding the fort with you and Jono for the last week.
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Speaker 6: No.
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Speaker 1: Allowing me to indulge in a week off.
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Speaker 7: Of course.
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Speaker 1: I tapped into my inner David and I took a long service week.
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Speaker 4: Good.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Good on you.
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Speaker 1: How did you go? It was magnificent, can I say? I was driving back from, we went to Australia Zoo, which is sensational, by the way. Well played at the Irwin family. It's spectacular.
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Speaker 5: Did you see anyone tackle a croc?
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Speaker 1: Yes. And this blew my mind. We're sitting there and they've built this thing they call The Crocosium. So it's where Steve would do his croc demonstrations. But it looks like a stadium that you'd see, you know, in the third division English football. There's about, probably seats about 8,000. It's really pretty.
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Speaker 10: Wow.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really significant infrastructure. And so the handlers come out and they're showing you about native birds and what they do and they're flying around. It's really well done. Lizards, snakes, wombats. And then they say, oh, count down. And then there comes the croc feeding because it's the big thing that everyone's there for. 10, 9, 8, 7, gets to one, and the doors open, and Bob, Bindi, Terry, and Bindi's husband all run out.
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Speaker 5: Oh, all of them?
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Speaker 1: All of them were there. And my wife and I are looking at each other like, they surely don't do this every day.
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Speaker 5: Is this AI?
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Speaker 1: Well, I said, animatronic. They look really good. And they did the show. It blew our minds. Apparently, they- They'll come out for– it was a long weekend, so they'll do certain special occasions. But, yeah, they all still do it, which was spectacular. But it was the first time having a week off. Rosie's turning four in two weeks.
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Speaker 6: Oh.
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Speaker 1: And I had this revelation. You have this sort of, you know, the drive back. Australia Zoo to Brisbane. It's about an hour and a half. Quiet time in the car. And I started thinking– And I want to ask our listeners this this morning. What's the best decade of your life? What was the best decade of your life? Was it when you were a teenager? Was it in your 20s? Was it in your 60s? Is it right now? I'd love to hear from people. 8223 0000. Text us on 048 08 13 95. Because I started thinking, I was just reflecting on the week we'd all had together, our little family. I thought, I reckon I'm in it. I reckon I'm coming into it. And I wonder for other people too, it'll be a sort of 10 year span when you've got kids between the age of, three and 13 or four and 14 or something like that, where everything's magical and wonderful. We went for a long hike, my wife and I, at one point in time. And we had family there with us, so Rosie wasn't as part of that. And we saw 200 wallabies, I think, walking along. I think one got a mention. Wow, there's a wallaby. We saw one with her just walking around near where we were staying. And it was the most magical experience that became a talking point for 24 hours as she wandered around. What was he eating? Where's his family? Was he going to sleep?
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Speaker 9: Where was he going?
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Speaker 1: Where was he going? Can we go back? Is he going to be there? Was he there to see us? And I thought it was just, it was the first time I've got to experience that. And a lot of other parents will talk about it. And I think it's a shame we don't talk about this stuff enough because we have this sort of, you would have heard this before having Molly, this perception that your life ends the moment children come. And no wonder we have a fertility crisis in the world at the moment.
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Speaker 5: People scare you.
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Speaker 1: People scare you. And it's actually the best thing. And here I am suddenly, you know, trust me, I'll revert to my usual cynical self very shortly.
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Speaker 5: No, I like this, Will. This is nice.
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Speaker 1: But it got me thinking anyway. It got me thinking, what decade was it for you, folks? If you could go back, what was your favourite decade? 8223 0000. And I don't mean 60s, 70s, 80s music-wise. I mean, when you were in your 50s, 60s, 70s, 20s. What age for you? What age for you?
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Speaker 5: Because for... For me, you would think, well, I would think a lot of people would say that between, you know, five and 15 because you have those family memories and they always say when you grow up, the memories you remember from when you were a kid were family holidays, family trips, like the ones you're doing with Rosie right now and the ones we're doing with Molly. And so I would have thought that a lot of people would say that until they have kids.
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Speaker 6: Yes.
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Speaker 5: And then it becomes... that decade for them watching their kids go through that, like you're living right now.
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Speaker 11: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: It just makes everything, there's a new magic to it all. And I'm sure there'll be older people just nodding their head going, yeah, duh. Yeah, no joke. You've just discovered kids.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we sort of just have. I think we've been doing the show for a long time. People know I'm not a big animal guy, but I suddenly go to the zoo and have the best time imaginable.
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Speaker 6: I know.
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Speaker 5: I am not a flowers girl. When I met my husband, I said, please don't buy me flowers. I don't appreciate them the way other people do. To me, they feel like a waste of money. I'd much rather you spend $ 80 on flowers. some chocolate or something for me. Take me out for dinner instead. Flowers are not for me. Molly loves flowers. When we go on our walks, she has to stop and sniff every flower. Now I find myself buying clothes with flowers on them. Ben's buying her bunches of flowers for Valentine's Day.
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Speaker 1: You're now a flower family.
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Speaker 5: And now I'm obsessed with flowers, something I've never appreciated nor wanted in my life, but she loves them, so I love them now.
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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Isn't it funny how it changes? Brent says he nominates his early teenage years as his favorite decade of life. Thank you, Brent. Caroline says, well, you're in it right now. Kids age four to 10 when you're in your forties. Enjoy.
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Speaker 9: Thank you, Carol.
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Speaker 1: That's my suspicion, but might not be the same for everyone. A lot of people like the, the, the freedom and liberty that comes with retirement and things like that as well. You often hear talk about, you know, change and the old saying was life begins at 40, but that just keeps getting pushed back a decade every five years. It feels like so.
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Speaker 5: And maybe for those who don't have kids. Was it your 20s?
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Was it your 40s where all of your friends were with their kids and you weren't?
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Speaker 1: Sure.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Maybe you're looking at all this going, yeah, have fun at the zoo, Will.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: We were doing other cool things. We have Cheese Fest tickets to give away. We've got for you and three friends. I love these tickets because you can take a group. Cheese Fest, Saturday the 17th of October, which makes it not this Saturday but the following. Mm-hmm. Rundle Park, 17th and 18th of October. So this is a great event. Who doesn't like cheese? And the weather's always good. Get your tickets from cheesefest.com.au. The best decade of your life, folks. Which was it? Maybe you're in it right now. 8223 0000 or text us on 04808 1395.
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Speaker 4: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
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Speaker 1: 21 after 6, we've got Cheesefest tickets for you and three friends. Not this weekend, but the weekend after. Spectacular event. Always good fun. I'll ask you about the best decade of your life. Which was it? Or are you in it right now? Quinton in Old Rinella. Good morning.
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Speaker 6: Good morning.
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Speaker 13: Welcome back, Will.
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Speaker 14: And.
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Speaker 13: Daisy, don't forget Baby Shark. The best decade's been the last 10 years for me. I happened to meet my now wife, who had five kids and let me enjoy them. And we've created a lovely little family, but the next decade is going to be even better because the kids will be off our hands and we get to travel the world and all that sort of stuff.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon that's going to be a popular, or should be a popular entry, certainly based on what I hear. That sort of empty nester, suddenly the world's your oyster again kind of feeling.
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Speaker 6: Yep.
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Speaker 5: Or even grandkids. We're talking about the joy of having kids and taking them on holiday.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Getting to relive it with a bit more of a hands-off approach and seeing your children raise their children. Maybe grandkids is the best era.
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Speaker 1: All care and no responsibility. Yeah, I think that might be true, actually. Andrew in St Mary's, good morning.
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Speaker 6: Good morning. How are you all?
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Speaker 15: Good, Andrew.
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Speaker 6: Good.
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Speaker 10: I reckon the best time was that 1997, probably about 2006, 2007 period.
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Speaker 1: Okay, take us through it.
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Speaker 10: We all had mobile phones, but they weren't connected to the internet, so all we could do was talk, text and play Snake. we were a contact of on our mobile phones, but it just wasn't there. If you had an iPod, you had to download the music onto this MP3 player, and then that type of thing. It just wasn't available straight away to stream. Yeah, you wanted to meet up with people. You still had to organise it, but it wasn't as easy as it is now. You still went to Blockbuster. You still had to hide the videos because you couldn't stream them. The internet was dial-up, but it wasn't that flash. No, I think that was the perfect time between old technology and new technology at that time.
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Speaker 1: You were getting some of the convenience of modern technology with far fewer of them major drawbacks of it.
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Speaker 6: Yep.
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Speaker 5: There is one aspect of that life I would not want back. Before mobile phones had internet and when they were just sort of coming out. Remember you used to do the drop-in?
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Speaker 1: Oh, the drop-in.
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Speaker 5: We would go out with my parents for the weekend or for the day and you would just drop in to someone's house who lived in that area and see if they were there.
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Speaker 1: Is the drop-in dead?
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Speaker 5: The drop-in's totally dead. You can't just drop into someone's house.
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Speaker 1: Not that you can text them. You can text or call first. I hadn't thought about it that way. The drop-in's dead.
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Speaker 5: I'm glad the drop-in's dead. I would not want people dropping into my house unexpectedly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm with you on that. Let's go to Holden Hill. Frank, good morning.
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Speaker 16: Hi, good morning. I think, Stacey, from a child perspective, five to 15, my wife, Chris, had the twins when she was 46. So the best era for us was when we were 51 to 61. So every weekend, we took the kids to a playground or a park. And my twins are now 26. And occasionally, I'll ask them, I'll say, Do you remember mum and dad used to take us to the park? Yeah, dad, we always had, and you always had lunch, and you always made us come back and eat before we'd go back and play with the kids. And just watching, as a parent, I used to say to Chris, I just want to see, she wanted to have them stunted like five, right? Which is a good age, right? But I said, look, we've got to let them grow to see if the values that we're giving them are actually taking them on. And I must say, I'm really thankful that they've taken those values on. And there's only the values that my parents gave me. One quick example of that, my daughter had surgery a couple of months ago, right? And I rang and she was, hey, Garner, you know, and she was, Dad, remember what you used to say to me as kids growing up? What doesn't kill you will make you stronger, right? And that's that great attitude that, you know, you've just got to get on with it and you'll be better. And my son used to say, but Dad, what happens if you die? And then I'd say to him, Alexander, you've had a really bad day. So that's me personally, having all those years on all year for my wife to have the kids. And like Sam said to me the other week, do you miss your daughter not being home? She got married 18 months ago and said, of course I'm missing my daughter every day. But as it says in the Bible, when you get married, that's the most important unit in your life. And your parents are a secondary value to you. And the drop-in, finally on the drop-in, Yeah, look, the drop-in's dead, but you know what? You can just drop in. I've got a couple of mates. They drop in here, I drop in there. It's never an issue.
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Speaker 1: Frank, you've done a mountain of work there covering off everything we just discussed.
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Speaker 5: Well done.
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Speaker 1: Superb work. Thank you for calling in. Sharon in Parrafield Gardens, good morning.
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Speaker 17: Good morning, Will.
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Speaker 18: I was so happy for you this morning when I heard your story and I thought, please keep going on holidays with your daughter and your family. I would like to share that as a mother, the growing up days with my son and also as a grandmother with the time with my son as a father and with my two grandsons now. Family is everything. We are a multi-generational family conscious of quality time together and in particular regular going on holidays. We find the children love experiencing the holidays and they do the same with their children generation after generation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well said, Sharon. Thank you. Appreciate that. Let's take one more before we chat with Tommy Wren about sport. Michael and Ross, Trevor, good morning.
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Speaker 19: Well, good morning.
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Speaker 20: Stop going on holidays because your hair gets shorter and shorter.
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Speaker 9: What do you think?
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Speaker 5: Are you watching on the live stream?
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Speaker 21: Oh, my gosh.
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Speaker 1: You know what? It's getting grayer and grayer, Michael. It's not getting shorter and shorter.
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Speaker 20: You know, the 8 to 15. But I think in reflection, it was the parents giving us the Mary's. But then when I got to 30, bought my house in St. Peter's, I was thinking, you know what? I'm starting to get ahead in life, and that's my responsibility as I'm making the decisions in my life. It's not my parents and controlling my future. So I think that when you come into money, that 30 to 40, you're starting to make your own memories and you'll stay making your own decisions and guiding your life.
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Speaker 19: Where it's going to go. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, money just represents independence, I guess.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That's a really, really interesting point, Michael. Good to chat with you, mate. Thank you for that, Michael and Ross Trevor. There is an entry for the Cheese Fest tickets as well.
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Speaker 5: Speaking of money. Tom Renz just pulled out his wallet for some reason. Do you pay us for this now?
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Speaker 9: I was just checking to see if I– as soon as I heard money, I was like, have I got money.
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Speaker 6: In my wallet?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got some money in my wallet.
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Speaker 1: Do we have a meter installed in here now, do we? Is that how things are operating?
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Speaker 8: Deary me.
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Speaker 9: I have to put it in the thing just to– Get some airtime, pay for your airtime. We'll let him stay for another half an hour or so.
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Speaker 1: Tom Reddy's in the 5AA Breakfast Studio with us. Thanks to Agostino Mitsubishi. Their demo clearance sale is on now. Save on the Pajero Sport, ASX, Triton and Outlander Nailsworth in Mawson Lakes. Rennie, what's been happening sports-wise?
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Speaker 9: There's a bit going on, Will. So trade period's officially opened. And I'm glad the Zach Merritt deal got done finally. 12 months too late, but it's done.
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Speaker 1: What value did Essendon get for holding onto him for an extra 12 months?
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Speaker 9: I think it was stubbornness, wasn't it? Because the deal was better last year.
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Speaker 1: Better last year. He hung around in a side that finished, what, second last?
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Speaker 9: No, last.
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Speaker 6: Last.
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Speaker 1: I think we said this at the time. Clubs do this all the time, and it's ego, it's hubris. It makes no sense.
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Speaker 7: Yep.
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Speaker 9: It's easy to be angry with everyone else, isn't it, rather than look internally.
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Speaker 6: Totally.
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Speaker 9: And I think it was a bit of Andrew Welsh coming in. He was the new head of the club and very successful businessman, former player. and saying, I'm going to stoke my flag in the ground. I'm going to beat my chest.
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Speaker 1: But it's just stupid.
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Speaker 18: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's dumb list management. So that would have been another young player that could have had 22 games put into it.
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Speaker 9: And it was a waste of 12 months.
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Speaker 1: Total waste of 12 months.
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Speaker 9: So glad that it's done, though.
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Speaker 8: It's over.
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Speaker 9: It's finished. Now, Port, are they going to get theirs done? Yes, I think they will. There's a bit of sort of posturing going on because they need to get an appropriate deal. And, you know, we heard yesterday– Jason Cripp's very strong. If they don't deal with us, you know, we're going to let him. That won't happen, I don't think. But it could go late. So that's the biggest deal, Zach Butters. And then all the other ones, you know, Rowan Marshall wants to get to Geelong, et cetera, et cetera. So it's officially opened. Sounds like the Crows will be quiet. Nick Murray wants to go to North Melbourne. North Melbourne want him. But it's the Crows want to make sure they're getting something.
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Speaker 1: This is a difficult period for Crows fans at the moment. So Jarrod Ruffhead came out and said nothing's happening.
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Speaker 9: I think there is a bit happening, but he's not going to say.
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Speaker 1: A part of it.
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Speaker 6: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Well, that would be good because at the moment it's Walker, Pedlar, Butts, possibly Murray out the door. They're in a contending window. That's depth gone. And the Bulldogs are better. Geelong are going to be better. And Sydney, Brisbane, Freo aren't going anywhere. You can go backwards by just staying still. It feels like that might be what's happening.
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Speaker 6: At the moment.
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Speaker 9: And I think because they missed out on Baylor, I think there is a bit of that. Definitely. So I think... Midfield-wise, I think they're probably going to put their chips on the table more next year for Naz and others that are coming out, which is going to be frustrating. I think it might be a year of let's have a look at Curtin full-time midfield. Let's see if Sid Draby can play. So, yeah, interesting times for the Crows.
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Speaker 1: You're right, Will.
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Speaker 9: Just quickly, winners and losers from the weekend. Port Women, they won the showdown. Well done to them. Crows women lose. Sydney Roosters. NRL grand final was good, I thought. I'm not a massive fan of, you know, watching a lot of games, but I thought it was a good, solid grand final. Max Verstappen won the Grand Prix. But the losers, and I'm sure you saw this, Will and Stacey, 36ers. They're in a bit of hurt at the moment. A couple of losses. List is looking a bit, squad's looking shaky. They need to shore it up. They need to just win a few games and get through this tricky period.
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Speaker 1: Injury is obviously an issue. I think people are leaping to some conclusions, but injuries are an issue.
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Speaker 9: That's totally the issue at the moment.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Rennie. Thanks, guys.
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Speaker 2: Knockdown Bill 2 with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes.
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Speaker 3: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
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Speaker 1: 20 minutes to seven. We're going to get some details on the Coalition's migration policy. Finally, today, the headline, if some of the papers are to be believed, is that it's going to be lower than the One Nation mark, at least in the first couple of years before being pegged to the amount of available housing. So, Phil Currie in an hour's time, if you want to hear more about that. Phil's as plugged in as anyone in Canberra. We'll get the inside word on that. How many hay fever sufferers do we have listening right now?
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Speaker 5: Hands up.
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Speaker 1: Stacey's got a hand up. I get it from time to time. There's some really interesting research that's come out this morning. So University of Queensland researchers looked at the Melbourne Pollen App, great database of people who've suffered from hay fever. There was 115,000 symptom reports between 2017 and 2023. And they looked at Well, when the pollen count is high, pollen concentration levels are high, does that mean there is a correlation in the spike of cases? You'd think so. That's why we have the pollen count during the weather every night, because we imagine, well, that's setting off everyone's hay fever. Well, what they found was that on days where it says low pollen count, And people with hay fever are going to go, yeah. It doesn't necessarily mean you're going to have a symptom-free day. Not just for hay fever, too. I should point out as well, we're talking about asthma here as well, which can be triggered by these sorts of things. Max Tyler undertook the research. He's an epidemiologist and PhD candidate at the University of Queensland. Max, good morning.
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Speaker 5: Good morning.
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Speaker 12: Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 6: Thanks.
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Speaker 12: Looking forward to sharing my research.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so what was the headline for you? Because I reckon this would stand as a bit of a challenge to the way people interpret the safety for them going out when the pollen count is either low or high.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, well, as I hate to even suffer myself, it's certainly something that was actually secondary to the primary purpose of the study, and it's something that came up recently.
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Speaker 19: Somewhat unexpectedly.
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Speaker 12: So initially, we were looking at the timing because we saw some really bizarre findings where people were turning up to hospital in the days following the exposure.
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Speaker 19: Not the day of.
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Speaker 12: And biologically, that really doesn't make any sense given the hypersensitivity reaction that drives an allergic response is mostly immediate. So we thought, well, let's have a look at these days and see Or is there something in the app data that might tell a story here that we can't see looking at more endpoint results like hospitalizations, for example? And we did see that it was mostly immediate, like we would expect. But also that, yeah, these days which are classified as low perhaps don't accurately reflect the symptom burden for everyone. As some people, especially those with asthma or suffering severe symptoms, still had a measurable increase in symptom reporting.
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Speaker 5: Because that makes sense to someone like me, Max, who is a hay fever sufferer. I found there were days this winter where I was suffering really badly and I was saying, what is going on with me? This is bizarre. I shouldn't be getting hay fever in winter. But that kind of helps to explain it.
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Speaker 12: And also, while this wasn't directly looking at In my study, the timing of the pollen season can shift from year to year. And also, whilst grass is undoubtedly the major allergen in Australia that drives hay fever, there are still other pollens from, for example, trees and weeds that do also have allergies. Well, people do have allergic responses to them. So if that season shifts slightly outside of the main window, then it's That could be explained partly.
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Speaker 1: Does the pollen count have any utility then, do you think, or should we retire it as a metric?
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Speaker 19: No, not at all.
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Speaker 12: I mean, it's very useful, especially once you know the sort of environment around you which causes you to have your symptoms. What I'd like to see is this transition to a personalized forecasting system where we can look at the grass pollen, the air pollution, everything in the environment around us, and say, well, based off of me personally, if I have these.
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Speaker 6: Patterns where I seem to report symptoms.
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Speaker 12: On certain days with certain exposures, then I may be at greater or lower risk tomorrow. That's what I'd like to see, but the technology, whether it's fully there now, that's to be validated, of course. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: No, it's fascinating work you've done, Max. It's a very worthwhile thing for people to consider who have asthma or hay fever sufferers and the things they rely on to get about their day. I appreciate it. Max Tyler, epidemiologist and PhD candidate at the University of Queensland. It feels like the next era of information we're going to get, and we're sort of at the cusp of it now, is going to be personalized everything. Mm-hmm. personalized, well, it's almost a personalized weather forecast. We're almost getting now. People have local little weather stations in their house or your location sensor will say your suburb these days. But we're talking about personalized medicine. We're already in the world of personalized entertainment. I mean, you can live in the house, same house as someone, live totally different entertainment, watching lives.
00:24:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 1: Just feels like this increasingly personalized world.
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Speaker 5: I don't mind it in some ways. If the algorithm's going to tell me you might need your hay fever tablet today- But what I don't want is the social media algorithm targeting me.
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Speaker 9: That's right.
00:25:08
Speaker 1: It's like everything. Yeah. There are some benefits, clearly. Yeah, that's right. If you could be told, these are the things that set you off, they are in the atmosphere today, be wary. That'd be amazing. But yeah, you're right. There's a lot of other things that sort of are problematic that go with that. All right, let's go to the Weather Bureau right now. In fact, Michael Conway is on duty. Michael Conway. So it's just peak spring at the moment. Weather's all over the shop. Where is it here today for this Tuesday?
00:25:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, g'day, guys.
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Speaker 22: My head's spinning thinking of personalised weather forecasts. That's very interesting.
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Speaker 1: Could be a boom time for forecasters and meteorologists.
00:25:47
Speaker 19: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 6: That's right.
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Speaker 22: Yeah, well, back to the more mundane. The temperature at the moment, it's about 12 degrees. We got down to 11 degrees in Adelaide overnight yesterday. Heading for a max of 20, although there's some showers moving in just at the moment. Up in the hills, there's some very light sort of 0.2 readings in a few places there. But we should get this low cloud and shower activity moving through this morning. And it's going to be pretty light on, so maybe one or two millimeters. Maybe you get nothing where you are exactly, but it's more likely up.
00:26:22
Speaker 6: In the hills you get a bit more.
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Speaker 22: So very weak cold front moving through today. Tomorrow and Thursday, settled weather with a high-pressure ridge over us, warming up on Thursday to 28 degrees. Friday, another trough moves over. We get showers again. So this one could be wetter with 5 to 15 millimetres, that sort of range for a fairly decent trough coming through on Friday.
00:26:46
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, Michael. Thank you. Michael Conway at the Weather Bureau with the multi-purpose general use forecast. Let's go to the Sape Olsen. Your Constable, Kimberley Broad, joins us. Kimberley, there's been a stabbing at Smithfield Plains overnight. What's happened?
00:27:00
Speaker 7: Yeah, about one o'clock this morning, police and paramedics responded to reports the man had been stabbed at a home on Crittenden Road at Smithfield Plains. A 50-year-old man was found with a laceration to his arm and treated at the scene by paramedics. But his injuries aren't considered life-threatening. A 19-year-old man was arrested and charged with assault causing harm. He's been refused bail and will appear in court today. The incident is not random and the men are both known to each other.
00:27:28
Speaker 5: Okay. And tell us what happened at Stepney last night.
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Speaker 7: About 10.40 last night, police and emergency services responded to a crash on Payneham Road after a Mercedes station wagon crashed into a tree. Now, the driver wasn't injured. However, when he was submitted to a breath test, he allegedly produced a blood alcohol reading of 0.159. The 45-year-old man from Kent Town, he's been reported for drink driving, issued with a 12-month instant loss of licence, and his car's been towed from the scene. So he'll be appearing in court at a later date to face those charges.
00:28:03
Speaker 1: It rounds out, Kimberley, what was a really horrific long weekend on our roads.
00:28:07
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. We've had two fatalities. One was at Virginia where a 53-year-old man from Angle Vale died in a crash at Virginia. That was on Sunday night after a two-car crash at the intersection of Penfold and King Road. The other driver was a woman and her five passengers. They were taken to hospital for treatment of minor injuries. And then at Paracombe, that was about 12.50 on Monday 5th of October. Police and emergency services were called to Gorge Road after a crash between a Yamaha motorcycle, a Mitsubishi sedan and a Subaru sedan. And unfortunately, the rider of the Yamaha motorcycle, a 23-year-old man from Salisbury Heights, he died.
00:28:53
Speaker 15: At the scene.
00:28:54
Speaker 7: That also follows two other serious injury crashes that we had at Port Wakefield on the Copper Coast Highway and also on Murdoch Hill Road at Woodside. a 66-year-old woman from Murraybridge and a 67-year-old man from Woodside, respectively. They both received serious injuries. So, yeah, like you said, not a great long weekend for people on our roads.
00:29:16
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00:30:32
Speaker 1: Six minutes to seven, end of an era for Channel 10 in regional parts of Australia, including South Australia. There will be no Channel 10 in the Riverland in SA and Mount Gambier as of this Friday. So no 10, no 10 drama, 10 comedy is gone as well. The Wynn Network has said that providing tin services to these markets was, quote, no longer viable. Let's start there with Steve Malk, a critic with TV, Black Box, who I really enjoy reading. Steve, good morning to you. No longer viable. Just walk our listeners through this because I reckon they will say, well, hang on, all this stuff's filmed. It's already being broadcast elsewhere. What's the cost barrier to just simply broadcasting it to these parts of Australia?
00:31:22
Speaker 6: Yeah, morning, Will.
00:31:23
Speaker 11: Morning, Stacey. The challenge ultimately is about meeting the requirement to hold the broadcast licence. And it's not just as simple as Channel 10 having an antenna and a transmitter and off they go. Already, part of the arrangement is, and this is the downfall for them in this situation, they have a partnership with Wynn Television, who of course have a large regional footprint, who have been broadcasting their content for them and helping them, you know, using their studios to deliver their news services and those sorts of things. And that's the critical part, is to have a regional broadcast footprint, you need to employ journalists and editors and producers and all of those sorts of things, camera people. to make the news content to keep your requirements for the broadcasting requirements. And all of that now has just rolled together. And effectively, we have said we can't afford to carry, as in hold up, the Channel 10 broadcast stuff that we've been doing. And Channel 10 have said, that's fair. We haven't exactly been paying you. There's been an extension on the agreement. It was meant to end earlier this year. And they've been negotiating since and both parties have come to the, I guess, the realisation that it's just not financially viable for Wynne to keep carrying Channel 10's content.
00:32:45
Speaker 5: So what will viewers in those regions get now?
00:32:48
Speaker 11: A black screen. If they turn on any of the Channel 10 things in the terrestrial broadcast things. Now, of course, Channel 10 have jumped up and down and said, oh, hang on, you can still stream our channels. from our website and do all of those sorts of things. And look, for people that either have a good enough internet access or are savvy enough to be able to handle that, it is becoming easier. That will be fine for the shows that they watch on Channel 10. For a bunch of people, however, of course, there are data limits to their internet plans and those sorts of things, and this will impact them. It's not like it's free as in I go outside for a walk. It's like going to a gym. I can go to a gym, pay, and go on the treadmill. or I can go outside for a walk and I can go for a walk. So the challenge is that it's not free in that they will have to have an internet service that's functional and can.
00:33:41
Speaker 6: Cope for them.
00:33:42
Speaker 11: They can still access the content that way, but if that's physically impossible or financially not viable for people, they just won't be able to watch any of the Channel 10 stuff.
00:33:53
Speaker 18: Wow.
00:33:54
Speaker 1: So, Steve, who does this say more about? Does this say more about Channel 10, or does it say more about the viability of regional broadcasting in Australia at the moment?
00:34:05
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a really great indicator, Will, of where broadcast TV is sitting in the Australian landscape, full stop. Obviously, the regions are going to be, as we're seeing here, the people who suffer first, because that's where it's most difficult to sort of justify from an accountant's point of view, where we spend our dollars and what that looks like and how we keep things afloat. However, it's a tipping point quite seriously where once we switch off one area, and this is going to affect people in the Mount Gambier and Riverland and Griffith regions in the first instance, once that happens somewhere, then the absolute push will be, well, we deliver it via the internet. Do we need to keep paying for all these expensive broadcast transmitters and those sorts of things? And there'll be Look, I'd imagine somebody that wears a pinstripe shirt that pushes an Excel spreadsheet everywhere is going to be coming to a meeting and saying, it is heaps cheaper for us to do it via the internet than to pay for this old broadcast technology, independent of what that might look like for Australia. Because, hey, everyone's got the internet.
00:35:14
Speaker 6: I think.
00:35:16
Speaker 1: Can I do something really unkind, Steve? Can you make a prediction for us right now? How much longer are we going to have sort of traditional terrestrial TV broadcast in Australia? How long before they'll all be online, do you think?
00:35:28
Speaker 11: I'll be really surprised if it survives the Brisbane Olympics in 2032.
00:35:32
Speaker 4: Wow.
00:35:33
Speaker 1: That's much sooner than I thought you were going to say.
00:35:36
Speaker 20: Yeah, me too.
00:35:37
Speaker 11: Yeah, because obviously there will be a parochialism that's, you know, an Australian Olympics.
00:35:42
Speaker 19: We all want to watch it.
00:35:43
Speaker 6: We all want to hang around.
00:35:45
Speaker 11: But certainly the regions will suffer and struggle leading up to that. But I suspect that once that's done... even in metro service areas, they'll be starting to say, well, you can still just stream our things and all of your internet-connected TVs and stuff can handle it. So thanks. We're turning off the towers.
00:36:02
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, things are changing fast. Steve, great analysis. I really appreciate your time.
00:36:08
Speaker 6: My pleasure. Thanks, guys.
00:36:09
Speaker 1: Steve Malk from TV Black Box. You can follow him on social media and read the terrific stuff that keeps you across all the developments in the TV industry, none bigger than the manner in which you get it, which... Steve says might be very different by the post-Brisbane Olympics.
00:36:23
Speaker 5: It just takes so much longer to find the online. You just used to be able to turn your phone on and press 7 to find Channel 7. Now, if you need to find the app, you need to go on and find the stream and pick your city and all of that. By then, I've missed your top stories on Channel 7 News, Will, and you're into the first break.
00:36:43
Speaker 1: We can't have that.
00:36:43
Speaker 9: It just takes so much longer.
00:36:44
Speaker 1: A bit like you said, the drop-in's dead. The digitisation is the death of channel surfing.
00:36:49
Speaker 10: Yeah.
00:36:50
Speaker 1: The idea you could just flick around and find something interesting or it'd happen on something you never usually would have watched, but hang on, what are they doing? It just doesn't exist anymore. You have to know what you want and go to get it. You can't be surprised because you're in charge.
00:37:04
Speaker 5: I like that. I liked being able to channel surf.
00:37:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like channel surfing. Well, it's over. Surf's no longer up. 7 o'clock, 5AA news time, back in a moment.
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Speaker 1: 8 minutes after 7. It's a gloomy start out there at the moment. Looks fairly grey. That said, looks can be deceiving at the moment and we're going to get a bit of everything this week as we look forward to the forecast. So if you don't like what you get today, you'll probably like tomorrow better. That's sort of the way it is in spring in Adelaide at the moment, but delighted to have you on board for this hour. Phil Currie after 7.30. We're going to get some clarity around the Coalition's migration policy today, the last of the majors to reveal their numbers and how they're going to get there. So we're going to learn a bit about that debate today. We'll learn a bit more with Phil Currie after 7.30 today. We've got a jury trial as well, inspired by, again, a Political party thinking outside the box policy-wise. It's not One Nation this morning. It's often been One Nation in the last month or two who have forced rethinks on everything from migration to superannuation. We're going to talk about the grocery buying business before 8 o'clock today. We'd love you to be part of our jury then. But let's get into some of the news. that's been happening while you've been sleeping, including this revelation that's going to come later today with regard to the Coalition's migration policy. Barnaby Joyce was up early speaking on the Today Show this morning about the manner in which the Coalition has drawn inspiration from One Nation.
00:38:45
Speaker 23: Look, I congratulate the Coalition for basically coming up with our policy. Bit of a nuance in there, but what a chosen endorsement of where One Nation's off to. We are moving the agenda, and if others choose to follow, well, That's good. It shows that the sort of rhetoric that was involved around, oh, you're outrageous, obviously, but not that outrageous because they've gone and mimicked us.
00:39:06
Speaker 1: It would be an interesting political gambit, and there is differing views on this, people quoting internal sources this morning. One of the versions is that the first two years, the migration target will be lower than the 130,000 that One Nation have. And then after that, it would return to what has been a sort of long-term average, but be pegged to housing availability. which, curiously, their forecasting would mean it would bounce back up. I'm not sure we've demonstrated the capacity to build that many houses that quickly anyway. But an interesting political gambit to have a bit, which is where the Libs live at the moment, it's a bit each way, isn't it? It's going to be a bit tougher, but a but a bit lighter as well.
00:39:52
Speaker 5: That's a nice way of saying maybe what I'm thinking is, is this rendering the Libs irrelevant? If their policies is just, oh, what's Labor doing? What's One Nation doing? Let's try and find a happy little medium in the middle there.
00:40:07
Speaker 9: What are they doing?
00:40:08
Speaker 5: They're not even coming up with their own policies. As Barnaby Joyce just said, they're doing our policy. Slight little shift there on numbers. But for the rest of it, they just seem to be following One Nation. And it used to, obviously, be the other way around. They were the opposition. One Nation was sort of seen as a fringe on the side. But the Libs now seem to be not even the fringe. They're just irrelevant.
00:40:31
Speaker 1: They have belatedly... The major parties, and on this occasion, we're not including One Nation as the major party, have belatedly realised that this is the biggest issue in Australia at the moment. The immigration issue is motivating a whole lot of votes.
00:40:44
Speaker 6: Mm-hm.
00:40:45
Speaker 1: It will be fascinating to see whether we look back in this period of history as One Nation shifted the debate without becoming the major political force they look like they might be. I think that's the risk for One Nation now is they've dragged all these parties to a position that they are previously. There's no way they would have gone there if not for polling. There's just no way. But will that see people say, well, I've got what I wanted. I'm going to return to the more comfortable packaging and Or is for the majors, the traditional major parties, the damage now being done? That's the thing that fascinates me in this discussion. The other thing, by the way, as a return to cynical will, we had nice, I was being nice and sweet after six o'clock. None of these guys meet these targets.
00:41:27
Speaker 18: All right?
00:41:28
Speaker 1: It's all well and good to set a target. This is a really fun conversation. No one meets these targets. So we're going to spend a lot of time talking about this. Let's just remember this moment, okay, for whenever who's formed government in the next four years when we get two or three years' worth of migration done. Let's see how well they did.
00:41:47
Speaker 5: Every repeat drink driver says, I'm not going to do that again. No one reaches their goal.
00:41:53
Speaker 1: Absolutely right. A bit of international news around this morning as well. Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, the former Prince Andrew, is suing the UK police with regard to the way in which his premises were used Things were seized. His premises were searched. This is in relation, of course, to the Epstein files. Have a listen to Royal commentator Russell Myers.
00:42:17
Speaker 11: Former police officers I've spoken to have said that this is a very, very difficult.
00:42:22
Speaker 1: Charge to sort of nail down.
00:42:24
Speaker 9: So, you know, no wonder that the police are taking so long with this case.
00:42:28
Speaker 1: Interesting gambit.
00:42:30
Speaker 13: Yeah.
00:42:33
Speaker 1: So, you.
00:42:36
Speaker 5: Is that a thing now? You can just sue the police for investigating you?
00:42:42
Speaker 1: I guess there are rules of evidence collection and you can't go on a property without having just cause and warrants and so forth. And I don't want to prejudice anything. I'm sure we can't do it from here in Adelaide, can we? Just an interesting tactic, rather than saying I'm innocent, saying, well, you got all that stuff illegally. Which I know is your legal right, but just as a PR sort of choice seems to me to be a striking one.
00:43:09
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's not true. I'm just saying it's inadmissible.
00:43:12
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right.
00:43:13
Speaker 1: That's right. Curious angle. Who has had to come across their social media feed in the last 48 hours this story of a leaked vial of plague? plague, yes, as in, not bubonic, this one's actually pneumonic, that has escaped from a lab in Russia. This feels like the premise of a Bond film, but... This is something that's happened, and now U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio overnight has commented on this story.
00:43:41
Speaker 24: There was a worker at the lab that was infected, and there's concern that that could have spread, at least internally. So you've seen them do quarantines of that nature. There's very limited travel between the U.S.
00:43:53
Speaker 1: And Russia, obviously.
00:43:54
Speaker 24: But like anything else, something like.
00:43:55
Speaker 1: That gets out, it could quickly spread.
00:43:57
Speaker 24: So we're watching and monitoring it closely.
00:43:59
Speaker 1: So this is something that has been, I think, knocking around people's social media for probably, four or five days that was not being reported on because traditional media has to double-check and triple-check this kind of stuff. You can't just run with rumour. Now it has verified that those things were accurate. So there's a lab in Siberia where work was being done. According to some reporting, a vial was broken and a young female lab worker there contracted the plague and died. Now, this is not... I know, look at your face.
00:44:34
Speaker 11: Yeah.
00:44:35
Speaker 1: This will be the least comforting comfort you can get about this, but I've been reading epidemiologists make the point that the reason we... Pandemics only happen with things that aren't that fatal because that's how they spread.
00:44:49
Speaker 15: Right.
00:44:50
Speaker 1: This is really fatal. This will not spread massively because... It'll kill people before they have a chance to spread it. It kills them before they have a chance to go on their summer holiday and travel around the world. Yes, it is the least comforting... comfort that can be given, but this kind of thing does not become a global pandemic because, in fact, pneumonic is worse than bubonic because it's transferred directly human to human. Bubonic was rats and so forth. This one is so contagious and so deadly. If you're in the immediate circle and you get it, you're probably dying before you get a chance to spread it to a whole bunch of other people.
00:45:25
Speaker 5: Why did they have it?
00:45:27
Speaker 1: Now that is an excellent question.
00:45:29
Speaker 5: Are they saying that they're testing vaccines?
00:45:32
Speaker 1: Is that- Well, you can draw your own conclusions on that one. That's a great question. And in an era of AI and– Yeah, that's that.
00:45:47
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:45:47
Speaker 5: Wasn't it about a month ago we had this thing that AI would kill us all one day with some sort of plague?
00:45:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. I could design one.
00:45:54
Speaker 7: Great.
00:45:54
Speaker 1: Perhaps one like the one that's in the Siberian lab.
00:45:57
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:45:57
Speaker 1: Let's not dwell on that because it's the morning and people want to get about their day. Good morning, everyone. You know, it'd be nice to get about your day without having to worry about pneumonic plague.
00:46:03
Speaker 8: Happy Tuesday.
00:46:04
Speaker 1: You know, just get out there, enjoy the lack of sunshine. Let's talk about a local issue that will actually be affecting lives and is right now the state of our regional businesses. Andrew Kay is the CEO of the SA Business Chamber who this morning published their regional voice report. They've done this five times. The report details some of the acute issues faced by South Australian regional businesses, things like limited housing stock. Now, limited housing stock is an issue everywhere. But if you are advertising a job in your town and there are no houses in that town, suddenly you can't fill that job. It's not just inconvenient for people. It means your business can't grow and in some instances can't operate. There are things like labor costs. They're high everywhere, but acute in the regions as well. Lack of infrastructure, of course, is something as well. Andrew Kay joins us now. Andrew, good morning. Good morning.
00:46:58
Speaker 19: Good morning, Will.
00:46:59
Speaker 1: What's the most important distinction we should make between the challenges faced by metropolitan businesses and regional businesses in South Australia?
00:47:08
Speaker 25: It's a really interesting point, Will. I think what we see in this report, which we do every couple of years, is.
00:47:16
Speaker 25: It's made it quite clear that our regional businesses face all the same issues our metro businesses do in terms of their challenges. So at the moment, that's high energy costs, it's high input costs, it's cost of regulation and compliance and increased fuel prices. But on top of that, they then face significant wage costs because they have to pay more to attract people. And the point you made there about housing, it's intrinsically linked with their ability to attract and retain people. Their insurance costs are generally higher. That's if they can always get it, which they can't. They face infrastructure challenges and essential services shortages. Sometimes telecommunications can be an issue. And then depending where they are, you could always throw in the presence of floods or fires or even algal bloom in the last year or so. So it really does speak to, and I know it's an overused word these days, but the resilience of our local communities in their ability to keep soldiering on.
00:48:12
Speaker 5: I noticed that the survey was conducted late last year and early this year, and you've identified that that's before fuel supply and cost pressures are where they are now. So without wanting to only look at the grim side of this, it's probably even worse than when you did the survey.
00:48:32
Speaker 6: Well, that's true.
00:48:33
Speaker 25: And what we've done in the report is add into that the work we did in March, April around fuel prices. But in some way, it's good to have this report done just before they hit to get a sense of the regular ongoing challenges they face rather than being influenced by something that was really hot at the time.
00:48:52
Speaker 5: So if there was one thing that regional businesses would want, would ask for, can you nail it down to one thing that would help?
00:49:03
Speaker 25: Labor really is the key issue that comes out of this report, Stacey. Labor costs, labor availability, and that link to housing. And the fact they have to pay over and above what we pay Metro to attract people simply because of the challenges themselves. getting them to go to their regions is a critical one. Addressing that housing shortage is important. Previously, the Chambers asked for the state government to look at payroll tax discounts for our regional areas. Now, we see that in Victoria. We see it in Queensland. For example, Victorian regional centres pay about a quarter of the payroll tax rate that we do here in South Australia. Now, maybe that's time to review that to look at how we can offset some of these higher labour costs by reducing the impost of payroll tax.
00:49:51
Speaker 6: Because it comes through really clearly in the survey.
00:49:52
Speaker 25: We ask what's the number one tax that's impacting growth on their business and it's clearly payroll tax.
00:50:00
Speaker 1: How does the federal immigration debate feed into this then, Andrew? Because obviously availability and cost feed into one another. You can't get the people, you have to consistently pay more. You get those sort of things, they dovetail. Let me ask it this way. Have they seen the benefits of record immigration in the regions and is there any consternation about that being pulled back on?
00:50:24
Speaker 25: Certainly, there's regions that rely on.
00:50:28
Speaker 25: Workers that come through for picking and for harvest periods that are often on visas. They rely on tourism from families of international students and so on. These regional centres rely heavily on migrant workers and when we go out and talk to them, we're often trying to work with them to find ways that they can attract more migrants into their region and find a way for them to assimilate into the workforce. So it would only compound the problem.
00:50:58
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:50:59
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Speaker 3: Lou Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast. Stephen Rowe on 5AA Breakfast.
00:52:32
Speaker 1: Good morning! Time to talk sport with Rowe and it's that sort of weird time of the year when football suddenly gets all the headlines again. The trade period is underway. Stephen Rowe, good morning to you.
00:52:49
Speaker 8: Oh, Will and Stacey, yes, good morning. Yeah, the real stuff's finished and gee, what a grand final. Now the silly season of trades and rumours and innuendo and free agency where the players and footy, this bosses have a hundred coffees a day and the list management team, tell them what they're going to get. Here's the thing about this period. It can set you up for going two, three or four places up the ladder can take you from good to great. There's no question. It's so important. Um, you know, you've got to negotiate your way to landing a player on these two prefaces. I'd say, uh, number one, fulfill a need.
00:53:21
Speaker 21: You're okay.
00:53:22
Speaker 8: You got a list gap. You need to fill it. And number two, a player that probably makes you better. Um, If you have a look at over the years, certainly with the Crows, look at what Jordan Dawson's done and Isaac Rankin. Did Jordan Dawson just win his fourth BNF in a row? I mean, how incredible is that? Good teams like Geelong do it year in, year out. Not one year in, one year out, two years in and a couple of years out or we can't get anyone or whatever. Geelong do it every year. Collingwood do it every year. Hawthorne, some of these really good teams, they're always at the top because they're very, very good at this time of the year. Now, I was away and I heard our list manager. It's not just our list manager. Jared Ruffet has James Gallagher, who was a list manager on the board. He has Neil Balmy. He has a bloody good team behind him. So he represents what the team's trying to do. And he then says it to the fans. But when I heard this, I just got a little bit, oh, hello. Here's Jordan Ruffet.
00:54:19
Speaker 15: We're also at that stage where we've got so far in the last couple of years and we've won one final, which was great for our group. but I think competition for spots is going to come from within. It's not going to be from having three wishes and being able to bring in three amazing players. We need to see what we've got within our group.
00:54:36
Speaker 8: Well, we've been doing that a while. I'm just, when, and the word was used a bit later, Ms, Ms, and I like doing this, Ms Organic Growth. I just want to know Ms Organic Growth, how many Norm Smiths has Mr Growth won or how many Browns? I just thought I'd ask you, Will, how many? How many centre-square clearances has Ms Organic Growth done?
00:54:59
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, I reckon they're going to be under the cosh from round one next year, the Adelaide Football Club, based on not just the finals, how that all ended, but the depth has been stripped out, and Jared Roughead has just confirmed that none of it's coming in. So Peddler's gone, Butt's gone, Taylor Walker has... Maybe Nick Murray goes. This is a club that's... This is in the premiership window. You get three injuries and suddenly that list is looking really thin. And to your point about the importance of the trade period, we should have the Crows Club Championship, Rowey. Four of the five guys in the Crows top five were trades. Wayne Miller was the only one drafted. This is a club that hasn't actually done organic growth very well over the course of this... No. They've traded really well. Dawson, Rankin and so forth. McAndrew.
00:55:51
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:55:51
Speaker 1: The organic growth hasn't been great.
00:55:54
Speaker 8: No, no, it hasn't. And nor has their recruitment of talent in first-round peaks, so let's not go there. But here's the thing. They need to keep Nick Murray. He's got a two-year deal. I don't care, Nick. Lovely bloke. You're staying. We're going to play you. They need to get and try and get Will Day this year. I don't know. You had all the money for Zach Bailey.
00:56:11
Speaker 1: Why would Will Day leave?
00:56:12
Speaker 8: I don't know. I don't know.
00:56:14
Speaker 1: That's my.
00:56:15
Speaker 8: I'm with you.
00:56:16
Speaker 19: I wish he would.
00:56:17
Speaker 8: I wish he would.
00:56:18
Speaker 1: But I came thinking, from his perspective, why.
00:56:24
Speaker 1: The clubs around Adelaide are getting better. Geelong are getting better. Toby Green. Bulldogs are adding butts with their biggest weakness. And a bloke called Zach Butters. These clubs, sometimes doing nothing is going backwards.
00:56:38
Speaker 8: Well, retention is as important as attraction. We know that in business. So, look, they know what they're doing. Let's hope they do. But please, please, please, here's a plea from me on behalf of all the fans, including you, Will, back there. Organic Growth will do three-fifths of F all for our club next year.
00:56:56
Speaker 6: Boom.
00:56:56
Speaker 8: Put that in the bank and smoke it.
00:56:58
Speaker 1: I get the feeling we're going to hear a lot about Mr. Organic Growth on the sports show tonight. Good to have you back on the board as well, Rowie. We're looking forward to all your thoughts. Stephen Rowe, back with Timmy tonight, making sense of the trade period for you. We're going to take a break. Phil Currie, making sense. of what's going to be a big policy announcement a little bit later today next.
00:57:19
Speaker 2: Knockdown Bill 2 with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
00:57:27
Speaker 3: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
00:57:31
Speaker 4: 7 a.m.
00:57:32
Speaker 11: To 8 a.m.
00:57:32
Speaker 1: We've got a jury trial coming up before 8 o'clock this morning. We have $ 100 worth of Sam Test seafood to give away in the process as well. Very much looking forward to that. Jeffrey Archer has died, I've just noticed on News 24 this morning. Sorry, I was momentarily distracted. The best-selling author, he was a politician in the UK for a period of time as well, but I think he'd be best known to our audience certainly as an author of so many books. I recall reading a Jeffrey Archer book many years ago. I bet we've got listeners that have read lots of them. Who among our listeners is a huge Jeffrey Archer fan? We'd love to hear from you. I was just momentarily distracted by that popping up on the screen. Also coming up after eight o'clock this morning, is David Jones in trouble? There's a lot of really concerning little details coming out about, less from how David Jones see that they're going, but more about how their creditors are bracing for some real issues with regard to David Jones. Now, we know the retail sector broadly is under all sorts of strain. People are shopping differently and It's getting more expensive to run a premises in the business, electricity, labour, some of the things that regional businesses are dealing with, like we spoke with Andrew Kay before the break. But it would feel, it feels seismic to have a retail picture in Australia without David Jones in it. That's hard to, that would be, that would be absolutely massive. So we'll talk about how likely that is after eight o'clock today. Let's get into the, The business of politics in Canberra, though, Phil Currie is the political editor of the Australian Financial Review and joins us now. Morning, Phil.
00:59:12
Speaker 21: Morning, Will. Morning, Stacey.
00:59:13
Speaker 1: Big day today. We're going to get learned finally. The Coalition's migration policy, Phil.
00:59:18
Speaker 21: Yeah, so you're going to have a choice of three numbers when you go to the election, basically. Yeah, that's right. But this has been coming... Well, I've actually announced already a bit of it, to be honest. Angus Taylor in April announced... some sort of enforcement measures about throwing out visa overstays and introducing a values test and all these sorts of things. But today is the sort of main bit, which is the actual number. So as we now know, Labour is trying to get what we call net overseas migration, that's the total difference between entries and exits, down to 225 a year. It's sitting at about 300 at the moment. One Nation has promised to get that down to 130 in three years' time if they're elected. And Angus Taylor is probably going to land somewhere in the middle. So we think he's going to announce an initial cut right back to $ 100, 000, but that's only for one year, then sort of build it back up to around $ 160, 000. So you've got a choice ultimately between.
01:00:10
Speaker 6: $ 130, 000, $ 160, 000, thereabouts, or $ 225, 000.
01:00:11
Speaker 21: That'll be on the menu come the next election. The number is one thing, Phil, but I think a lot of the discussion surrounding migration is about.
01:00:28
Speaker 5: Bringing in the right people to do the jobs that we actually need migrants to do. All of the parties are sort of addressing this in slightly different ways. Do we know the coalition's approach?
01:00:40
Speaker 21: Well, we'll know in a few hours, Stacey, exactly. I mean, we've sort of all got various stories in our papers today, what we could wrinkle out of people yesterday. But look, essentially, I mean, 100,000, if they do 100,000 a year, that's very low. And that would, you know, you would have sort of severe economic consequences if you had it that low. That's But Angus Taylor's view is you can only have enough people in proportion to how many houses and other things you've got to look after them. But what they will be doing is saying, look, the initial cuts will only lead in people, what they call high value migrants, people with the sort of super skills you need. And all three parties are going to get rid of this family reunion business. You know, if you're here on a temporary visa as a student or a skilled labour, you're only here for three years, people have been able to bring their family members in. And those numbers contribute many, many thousands of those programs. So you can still actually bring in the workers, just all the students, but just minus the family members. Now, that may have an impact because people might say, well, I'm not going to Australia for three years if I can't bring my wife or husband or kids or something like that. But those family reunion programs have been used to rort the system. So, yeah, who knows? Weight against all this, Stacey, you've got the sort of economic considerations on one side and then you've got the political considerations on the other. And, you know, people are pretty exercised about the rate of immigration. People think it's too high. It has been too high since COVID. You know, it's sort of different impacts in different places. Over in South Australia, for example, you know, Peter Malinowski's It says we need more to provide all the labour South Australia needs as it expands. Yet, you know, Chris Minns over in Sydney says we're full. We don't want any more. We need to cut it because most migrants end up in Sydney. And they just don't have the infrastructure to cope. So it's a bit sort of, what's the word, territorial, depending on various views. But, you know, it's not just a problem peculiar to Australia. I mean, look at Spain. And overnight they've called an election there because of the housing crisis. Either that or David Pemberth. He's one or the other.
01:02:44
Speaker 1: He's one of the migrants they're trying to keep out.
01:02:47
Speaker 21: Yeah, but you're kicking me, taking up someone's house. But you're seeing the impacts in Europe now of sort of riots and things based on mass migration, uncontrolled migration, which we haven't had here, causing huge political problems. So that's the sort of other side of it. If you don't do something about it, people are getting cranky. So, yeah, it's a big issue. It's number four. of the issues voters care about, according to our poll, and that's quite high, so it needs to be dealt with.
01:03:18
Speaker 1: It is a curiosity that the entire Western world is captivated by this one issue all seemingly at the same time, despite the various nuances around where we live and whether we're, you know, girt by sea or in the middle of a landlocked country in Europe and so forth. I find that really quite interesting. To the politics of this, Phil.
01:03:36
Speaker 6: Hmm.
01:03:38
Speaker 1: Presumably the Coalition's gambit here is, look, if you've left us for One Nation, or you're thinking about it at the next federal election, we are now promising you everything you wanted, but in a more comfortable packaging. Is that sort of.
01:03:53
Speaker 21: Yeah, in a more responsible way. I think the criticism... One Nation's policy, Will, they were first out of the bloc, and it was quite detailed. It wasn't silly. But the criticism of it was that it wasn't sort of costed or was costing, but they didn't release the costings. But the criticism was if they're going to drive the number down from $ 230, 000 to $ 130, 000 in three years, you'd have to have three years of negative migration, like, you know, more people leaving than coming in. And that is quite bad for the economy. So that's the sort of main criticism of the One Nation policy, where the Liberals are saying, we'll cut it to a lower level than the government, but we'll do it, because it won't sort of hurt the economy. So they're trying to sort of, you know, tick all the boxes, if you like. We'll have to wait and see what they announce. So they're trying to do it in what they consider a more economically responsible way. But there's no doubting that this has all been driven, you know, not by One Nation per se, but the reason One Nation really started to climb up the polls in about July last year was on the back of immigration. Yeah, that was the first issue that really triggered the rise of One Nation where people were just getting sick of, you know, what they believe is too many people coming into the country and equating it with housing unaffordability and all those sorts of things. So it's, you know, it is ultimately responding to One Nation, what the Libs are doing. And I think what you'll find after today is they'll then turn their sights on the economy and that'll be more about labour. We've seen the budget now is just broken and, you know, our debt and debt situation is now just broken and our spending, all the stuff that happened last week, the culmination of those events last week. So where the coalition ultimately sees their salvation is on the economy, not immigration. And they think They can sort of rebuild their shattered fortunes because they've got the wood on labour over that and they don't think one nation has the capacity to fix the economy like they do. So we're seeing these sort of– it's a three-way contest now. We're used to a two-way contest. We're now seeing a three-way contest between three parties with significant support.
01:05:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like a significant day today in the build-up to the next federal election. Phil, appreciate your time.
01:05:55
Speaker 21: Good on you guys.
01:05:55
Speaker 1: Phil Currie, the political editor there of the Australian Financial Review. Some texts coming in on that. We'll get to those in a moment. 0-4-8-0-8-13-95. But we're going to put another federal policy to the jury test on the other side of the break and give you a chance to win $ 100 worth of Samtas Seafood. You can call in right now. You don't need to know what the jury is to render your verdict. You can call in right now and get on the line.
01:06:15
Speaker 5: 8223 0055.
01:06:15
Speaker 1: And someone randomly will win $ 100 worth of Samtas Seafood. Let's check traffic before we do take a break. Enjoy your outdoor area all year round with an opening and closing roof, designed, manufactured and installed locally by Louverhouse.
01:06:31
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01:06:39
Speaker 3: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:06:47
Speaker 1: Five minutes to wait. We have noted over the last few months, really since the middle part of the year, that One Nation have dominated the policy discussions in Australia by, I think at times, kick-starting some really interesting debates. We've just been talking about migration with a new pair of eyes that has challenged the orthodoxy and has allowed us to have really interesting conversations about things that maybe we've sort of been told these just things are that we don't debate, like superannuation, for example, sort of fits into that bill. Well, not to be outdone, the Greens have floated a new policy concept with their new leader. Well, sorry, the first policy push from former Green, Max Chandler-Mather, who chairs the Green Institute now, they've come up with this concept inspired by New York Mayor Zoran Mamdani, where they would effectively nationalise a degree of the supermarkets run by Coles and Woolworths. Okay, so stay with me. So they would say 25% of their supermarkets are now run by the government. We get to call them fair-go-grocers, and we control the prices to make sure household staples do not rise with the rate of inflation, that they remain affordable. This is just communism. Socialism, basically.
01:08:09
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:08:10
Speaker 1: The idea being, I'll try to couch this without my personal biases, but the Greens would say that these are profit-making behemoths. The competition between them is largely imaginary. You are no longer the beneficiary of an environment where there is genuine competition and prices are going up. And that's why we see that in Australia. We can have a direct intervention from To stop that.
01:08:35
Speaker 5: Well, their profits from the most recent financial year, $ 1. 09 billion for Coles and $ 1. 14 billion for Woolworths.
01:08:43
Speaker 8: So I don't know.
01:08:44
Speaker 5: Are they winning or are you winning when you pay your $ 200 grocery bill each week?
01:08:50
Speaker 1: This is what the Greens would argue. We want to know from you folks whether you think there is some merit in this idea. Is it time to nationalise the supermarkets? or at least some of them, Or do we just have to leave it as is? 8223 0000 for the jury this morning. We just want to put this poll– this is an out there one– to the test.
01:09:09
Speaker 5: It's so interesting because I think a lot of people's immediate thought, particularly our listeners' immediate thought would be, no, we're not doing that. You can't have the state getting involved with the private sector like this. However, when you talk about electricity prices, whenever I talk about electricity prices– There is always people who ring up or text into this station saying, well, we sold off ETSA and this is what you get. So does it go the other way?
01:09:39
Speaker 1: Yeah. Does the logic then apply for supermarkets? I wonder if you're going to keep down the costs, who pays for that disparity? Is it going to be, do you pay the farmers less for the product? Probably not.
01:09:52
Speaker 17: No.
01:09:53
Speaker 1: Well, that's how it works with the supermarkets. That's how they've done it in the past with massive discounting. So then the taxpayer will foot the bill for the massive losses that the entity makes. So are we actually any better off then? I don't know. Well, let's find out. 8223 0000. What do you think, folks? You can win yourself $ 100 worth of Samtaz seafood. The Greens want to nationalise a component of the major grocery market. Good idea or bad idea, jury number one?
01:10:19
Speaker 6: Bad idea.
01:10:21
Speaker 25: Another thing for them to control?
01:10:24
Speaker 19: Yeah.
01:10:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be, I mean, it would literally be in government control then. Jury number two, what say you?
01:10:30
Speaker 19: I'm just shaking my head, seriously. Are we really here?
01:10:37
Speaker 13: Yeah, we are.
01:10:38
Speaker 19: Woolies are winning, coals are winning, but if we do this, we all lose.
01:10:44
Speaker 6: So, no.
01:10:45
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. 8223 0000, $ 100 SEMTAS seafood, good idea or a bad idea, you don't have to justify it, you just need to render your verdict and... I wonder if this.
01:10:56
Speaker 5: Wasn't a Greens suggestion. If you took the Greens aspect out of it, how would people feel about it? Would they feel differently?
01:11:04
Speaker 1: I just know a lot of Polish people that spent some time living in the Soviet Union who didn't exactly rave about the supermarket scene when it was, you know, you could buy the one government-mandated chocolate bar and so forth. So that's coloured my view a little. Jura number three, good morning.
01:11:22
Speaker 6: Good morning.
01:11:23
Speaker 4: Good morning.
01:11:24
Speaker 26: This is just another form of socialism which leads to communism. The government's running their hands in the till.
01:11:32
Speaker 6: We wouldn't be.
01:11:32
Speaker 19: Very nice for that thing.
01:11:34
Speaker 1: Okay. Thank you, jury number three. Jury number four, what say you?
01:11:37
Speaker 11: I'd say leave as is.
01:11:41
Speaker 14: Everything seems okay to me.
01:11:44
Speaker 27: Just shop sensibly, I suppose.
01:11:46
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that's a challenge to even my Soviet Union example is that there is an example now of this We have it, it's early days, but operating in the peak capital society in the US, in New York City. I'll be fascinated to see how that goes.
01:12:02
Speaker 5: See how it goes.
01:12:03
Speaker 7: Yeah.
01:12:03
Speaker 1: Jira number five, good morning.
01:12:05
Speaker 14: Good morning, guys. Retail in South Australia is pretty strong with the independents. And we're quite lucky. So grocery prices are cheaper in South Australia. So no, it's a totally bad idea.
01:12:20
Speaker 1: You're right. We have a less monopolised or duopolised.
01:12:23
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:12:24
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that leads to lower prices here, though.
01:12:27
Speaker 1: It leads to more choice.
01:12:29
Speaker 5: More choice, but I don't think we pay less.
01:12:32
Speaker 1: Jura number six, good morning.
01:12:34
Speaker 16: Good morning.
01:12:35
Speaker 13: The answer's no. I'm thinking about my super returns, thanks.
01:12:39
Speaker 21: Fair enough.
01:12:42
Speaker 1: Well, you don't say what needs to motivate your decision on the jury. No, that's true.
01:12:46
Speaker 5: If you've got shares in Coles and Woolies, you don't want this at all.
01:12:50
Speaker 1: Superannuation that's exposed to the Australian share market, I think that's an entirely reasonable position as well. Thank you, jury number six. Who wins the $ 100 worth of Saved Jazz Seafood?
01:12:59
Speaker 5: Oh, well, jury number six.
01:13:00
Speaker 1: Hey, jury number six, there you go.
01:13:02
Speaker 5: You're getting higher returns in your super.
01:13:04
Speaker 1: Why not have some more seafood? Declaring self-interest, which is nice and honest. All right, breaking date next.
01:13:08
Speaker 4: I said, drop the pile up. Boom.
01:13:13
Speaker 8: Put that in the bank and smoke it.
01:13:16
Speaker 4: Knockdown. Bill 2.
01:13:17
Speaker 2: With Metro Homes.
01:13:18
Speaker 5: Sell one and move on.
01:13:20
Speaker 2: Keep the other as an investment.
01:13:21
Speaker 4: Metro Homes.
01:13:22
Speaker 5: They do it all for you.
01:13:24
Speaker 3: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:13:30
Speaker 1: Stephen Rome. Making sense of trade week for us in the way only Rowie can.
01:13:35
Speaker 5: Put that in your bank and smoke it.
01:13:37
Speaker 1: As the old saying goes.
01:13:39
Speaker 5: If anyone's ever smoked a bank, let us know. A-double-two-three-double-o-double-o.
01:13:44
Speaker 1: We love you, Rowie. Put that in your bank and smoke it. I'm going to start using that. We might talk more about sayings you get wrong a little bit later. Breaking date coming up in just a moment. I hope the reporting is... inflating the sense of concern creditors and others around David Jones have about their viability as a business. Because there is– maybe I'm the only one that thinks this way, but there's something– David Jones is retail. Yes, no, I'm with you. If you think of what is a retail business or what is– yes, we like to talk about certainly in South Australia small and family business and operators because they hold a dear place in our heart and they're such an important part of our economy. But if David Jones can't exist, what can, I guess, would be my question. We will be talking with an expert very shortly about precisely the challenges they face and whether they amount to an existential concern. Because some of them are the sorts of behaviours that predate disaster for business. Things like not being able to pay accounts or... people no longer delivering on credit because they've had issues getting payment and so forth. Just red flags, shall we say, for a business like that, that holds a very special place. I imagine we would have hundreds, if not thousands of people listening who have been employed by David Jones.
01:15:13
Speaker 5: Yep.
01:15:13
Speaker 6: Yep.
01:15:14
Speaker 5: I remember growing up, we used to go to David Jones with my mum, they always had a cafe as well.
01:15:19
Speaker 6: Yes.
01:15:19
Speaker 5: We'd sit at the David Jones cafe after school, get a little snack. It's a one-stop shop. I love the idea that you can go into a department store and see all the different brands that you would be able to go to in a shopping centre, but they're all in the one place.
01:15:33
Speaker 1: And it always had an element of class to it.
01:15:36
Speaker 3: Yes.
01:15:37
Speaker 1: It felt a bit important.
01:15:40
Speaker 18: Yes.
01:15:40
Speaker 1: And the thing I always like about when I think of David Jones, and I think this is probably changing a little bit just because of the changing nature of the workforce in Australia, but it was always staffed by older people who cared.
01:15:51
Speaker 19: Yes.
01:15:52
Speaker 1: And had some level of knowledge, expertise or interest in it.
01:15:55
Speaker 5: I think you're right. That has changed. It's almost hard to find someone that wants to help you these days.
01:16:00
Speaker 1: Well, there's a numerical thing that's going on, which from an ongoing business concern thing exists. But when I picture the brand, I think, yeah, you're going to go in and you're going to be sold. served by someone who's probably been there for 20 years. And that's a luxury experience in this day and age. Maybe it's too luxurious an experience, but we'll talk about it more in just a moment. 13 After 8, let's go breaking it over.
01:16:25
Speaker 5: The opposition has some figures this morning about how much has been spent on advertising by the state government. Ben Hood is the shadow treasurer and joins you. Good morning to you, Ben Hood.
01:16:37
Speaker 6: Stacey, good morning to you.
01:16:39
Speaker 5: So just how much has the government spent on advertising in the last financial year?
01:16:44
Speaker 6: Well, in the last financial year, Stacey, the eye-watering figure is $ 48. 6 million. Now, that's exclusive of GST. And over the last four years, it's approaching $ 200 million on advertising. Now, of course, governments need to advertise in the bushfire season, algal blooms, COVID, those types of things. But when we're seeing some $ 3. 5 million being spent on an advertising campaign telling South Australians that the government are building a bigger health system. We've no real information about that system, apart from just really just the government patting themselves on the back. We think this number is extraordinarily high. And ultimately, it's a government spending taxpayer money trying to convince those same taxpayers they're doing a good job.
01:17:32
Speaker 5: You touched on it there. There are some times when most people would assume it's appropriate for the government to spend money on advertising, information campaigns, encouraging people to buy local seafood during the algal bloom. I think a lot of people would look at that and say, all right, there's a benefit there. So it's not all bad.
01:17:53
Speaker 6: You're right, Stacey, and I'm not going to sit here and be grumble guts all the time, as it's sort of the opposition's job to be that. But the $ 48. 6 million isn't even the full picture here. So the Department of Prairie and Cabinet were in Budget and Finance Committee only a week or so ago, and they confirmed that this number, the $ 48. 6 million, doesn't include SATC, the Tourism Commission's advertising event promotion, in for a suspend. You remember the Sam Smith fiasco a little while ago, So this record number isn't the floor, is the floor, should I say. It's not the actual ceiling. We also have commercial and confidence advertising, which we're not exactly sure if this actually is contained within the 48.6. Now, that commercial and confidence relates to live, gather around, and all of these other things. So what we're seeing here is, again, a government that is spending taxpayer money to convince those same taxpayers that they are a good government when every metric, most of points the other way.
01:18:52
Speaker 1: Would you cap it?
01:18:54
Speaker 6: We would, Will, and that was something that we took to the election. We wanted to halve government advertising spend. When we're in a cost-of-living crisis, when fuel is through the roof, when everyday mums and dads, tradies, whoever it is, is struggling to make ends meet, and have got to run a budget, then we think the government should be pulling their socks up as well. Now, of course, we saw a $ 6 billion departmental overspend in the last four years, plus this nearly $ 200 million on government advertising. That isn't a government that's pulling its socks up or tightening its belt, and we think they need to do that. Now, Queensland have introduced a cap of $ 50 million a year. Now, that's a state three times the size of South Australia. We think that the government should be looking seriously at lowering this spend as much as they possibly can, and not participating in this self-congratulatory back-patting to convince South Australians that they're doing a good job.
01:19:46
Speaker 1: So their cap is, what, $ 50 billion, you said?
01:19:49
Speaker 6: $ 50 million. $ 50 million. That is three times the size of South Australia. In fact, if we look at the per capita advertising spend for states and territories on the mainland, South Australia spent $ 25 per South Australian last financial year. Victoria, who Tom Kurtz and Tonus like to say we're not comparative to, spend an average of $ 13 per Victorian on government advertising. So that just shows you how much we're actually spending in South Australia on government advertising.
01:20:19
Speaker 1: All right. Shadow Treasurer Ben Hood, thank you. The Treasurer Tom Kurtz and Tonus has called in. Treasurer, good morning. Why do we spend effectively twice as much per person in South Australia on advertising compared to a state like Victoria?
01:20:32
Speaker 6: Well, I characterize it this way. None of this is political advertising. None of this has my picture or the Premier's picture on it. We don't talk about Labour or Liberal. This is get vaccinated. This is our hospitals. We're investing in them. Call an ambulance if you get sick. There's room for you at our hospitals. This is about making sure people are bushfire ready. And I think it's always easy to come out and say we can cure all the ills of our budget by, you know, spending less on advertising. But if you want to compare us to Queensland, Queensland got downgraded last week, and we just got reaffirmed with a second-highest credit rating in the country. So I don't think those financial comparisons make any sense. And all the advertising we're doing is about making sure South Australians know when to get vaccinated.
01:21:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, but presumably Victoria has to do all those same things, and they're able to do it for half the price.
01:21:23
Speaker 6: Well, I would obviously check to see what advertising... Ben is characterising as government advertising Victoria and those totals. So, I mean, that's one... We're taking his assumption as being accurate. The truth is we've spent less this year than we have on average, but, you know, it goes up and down depending on the scenario. Like, if we've got a really severe bushfire... Season coming up, we're going to spend.
01:21:49
Speaker 21: A lot of money.
01:21:49
Speaker 5: Yeah, but no one's suggesting that the bushfire campaign and the get vaccinated campaign shouldn't go ahead. What about the building a bigger health system campaign? That's not.
01:22:01
Speaker 5: Informing people of something that could be upcoming like a bushfire season. That's letting people know that the government is spending money on a health system that's failing. We just saw the worst ramping stats on record in South Australia. You're spending that money on the health system anyway. Why do you need to spend more to advertise it to people?
01:22:19
Speaker 6: To make sure that people know that when they get sick, they still go to our hospitals. I mean, we've got people on our radio programs and TV programs talking down the health care system, making people... thinking that they can't go to an emergency department, that there isn't enough space for them. It's our duty to let them know that we have one of the best health care systems anywhere in the world and that if they do get sick, they should call an ambulance, that they should go to our emergency department, that they should try and see a doctor and not allow politics to overtake our health care system. This is about making sure that South Australia has got a health care system that they can use. And I make no apologies for it whatsoever. And it's very easy to come out on radio and make complaints about spending money on advertising. Every government does it, and they do it for a reason. But the Premier's pitch is not in it. My pitch is not in it. We don't mention our names. We don't say, vote Labour. We don't say, vote Liberal. We say, if you get sick, go to a doctor. Get vaccinated. Be careful about bushfires. We spend a lot of money on AlkaBloom advertising to remind South Australians of all the small businesses that could be visited. so they could survive through one of the worst natural disasters this state's ever faced. Then we get criticised for it. I'll point this out. Ben was on your program during the Algo Bloom issue, calling on us to spend more money.
01:23:39
Speaker 5: Not on advertising, though.
01:23:40
Speaker 6: Since the state election, Ben Hood and the South Australian Liberal Party have called on the state government to spend an additional $ 6 billion. Not on advertising.
01:23:48
Speaker 5: Not on advertising.
01:23:50
Speaker 6: Sure, Stacey, but what I'm talking about is.
01:23:52
Speaker 5: Well, you're conflating two different issues there. This is apples and oranges, Treasurer.
01:23:56
Speaker 8: You know that.
01:23:58
Speaker 6: It's all spending, Stacey. The oppositions that say governments are spending too much while simultaneously calling on us to spend more, super critical.
01:24:07
Speaker 1: All right, Treasurer, thank you. That's the Treasurer, Tom Coutts and Titus, and the Shadow Treasurer, Ben Hood. I think the answer to that is if Ben Hood's figures are correct, there is no answer as to why we spend twice as much as Victoria. Yeah.
01:24:22
Speaker 5: And no one's criticising the get vaccinated, the advertising the ankle bloom. Even Ben Hood himself said, you know, we understand those campaigns need to take place. When the government advertises its own stamp duty policy, why is that necessary, that someone can get stamp duty relief? That's a policy they've put in place that taxpayers are paying for and then taxpayers are paying again to advertise it.
01:24:45
Speaker 6: All right.
01:24:45
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01:25:05
Speaker 4: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee.
01:25:07
Speaker 3: This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:25:11
Speaker 1: 26 after 8, there has been a series of troubling headlines with regard to David Jones, the department store here in Australia over the course of the last couple of weeks that we think has just led us to get some of these questions answered. Headlines about... Their lender having concerns and doing insolvency preparation. Some of their suppliers asking for cash up front over concerns about whether debts would be able to be paid. Just some red flags for the operation of such an important retail industry in this country. Professor Gary Mortimer from the QUT Business School joins us. Professor Mortimer, good morning. Good morning, Will. How concerned should we be given these reports about David Jones is an ongoing concern.
01:25:56
Speaker 28: Yeah, listen, I think at the moment they're just, I guess what's being reported, there's certainly no evidence. I've not seen any evidence from ISAC or any of the reporting bodies. And certainly David Jones Management hasn't come out to confirm any of those reports. So I think like any business, you know, you go through challenging times. We know we have a new CEO of David Jones Network, a birth child. We've obviously got processes in place where they're changing maybe some of their payrolls and the way they deal.
01:26:27
Speaker 6: And pay with suppliers.
01:26:29
Speaker 28: So there's some structural change happening. Obviously, this is a business a bit like Meyer also that's going through a challenging time as well. And I think what we're seeing fall out of this and reporting around what might happen in the future. But at this stage, I wouldn't be too concerned. I'd be looking at what the executive leadership team is planning for that business long term.
01:26:48
Speaker 5: So it's not about the business model, Gary? Because I know a lot of people, myself included, Helen on the text line, love the idea of going to a department store where you've got lots of different brands and, you know, it's got everything from men's and women's to kids wear. I mean, now they've got the beautiful Christmas decorations up in David Jones and Maya. So is that sort of model of department store dying in this digital age?
01:27:14
Speaker 28: Yeah, listen, Stacey, that's correct. I mean, we've really seen a great deal of change happen. And David Jones has been around for 188 years, so it's almost 200 years old. It's actually the oldest department store in the world, older than Shell, which is older than Harrods. I mean, so I grew up in Adelaide. I remember going to John Martin's. You know, John used to buy school shoes and things like that. My parents bought furniture from John Martin's and also Meijer and David Jones over the years. But obviously we've changed, and now we've got big mass market retailers, specialty retailers. Brands now have their own retail stores. So the department store in the 1880s and into the early 1900s, it really was sort of centralising retail where you would go to one location, you'd find menswear, children's wear, furniture, white goods, a whole lot. That model has changed and I think what we're seeing moving forward is probably a smaller fleet of stores and probably some removal of some of those big category products. You think about consumer electronics, we tend to go to J.B. Hi-Fi or Harvey Norman for those rather than.
01:28:11
Speaker 21: The big department stores.
01:28:12
Speaker 28: I think we are going through some structural change when it comes to the model.
01:28:16
Speaker 1: Well, we all sort of can appreciate the way in which the retail experience is changing and how online have changed that. What's the optimistic view for the future of bricks and mortar retail businesses?
01:28:25
Speaker 28: Yeah, look, I still think, you know, when you think about going to the big centres like, you know, Marion, it's the recreational experience. You know, wandering around, window shopping, having a cup of coffee, maybe catching a movie, grabbing a meal, buying some items. It's very different from sitting at home on a tablet and sort of clicking and shopping online. So when we look at online shopping, we spent about $ 85 billion here in Australia last year. That was somewhere between around about 20%, 22% of total revenue online. But retail itself, about $ 440 billion. And the department store does take up a big chunk of that. I do think as we move forward, while we might see a smaller fleet of David Jones, and I would include my stores into that as well, I don't think they're going to disappear anytime soon. I think what we're seeing is a big change.
01:29:17
Speaker 1: That's good.
01:29:17
Speaker 9: Yeah, that is good.
01:29:18
Speaker 1: Thank you, Gary. Professor Gary Mortimer from the QUT Business School. It's interesting, that final point you make is a really interesting one. And I think The experience of shopping you described as sitting on a tablet on your couch, the entirety of the human experience surely cannot be distilled down to the tablet on the couch because, yes, it is more convenient in various guises. But maybe the optimistic view is that actually it is nice to occasionally get out and do something. And if it's not this, well, what will it be? Because everything ultimately, if we're just talking about maximising convenience, could be that image he described. So hopefully the point of difference for some industries at least will be, well, no, that's the human one.
01:30:03
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:30:04
Speaker 1: You're going to have to see other people. It's kind of fun.
01:30:06
Speaker 5: You don't get the same experience being on your couch. I mean, you can compare prices a lot more easily, which the tight ass in me does like, but you can't go into a store and try on that pair of jeans to see if it fits you. At the moment, I'm becoming obsessed with Christmas decorations, Will.
01:30:22
Speaker 1: Yes.
01:30:22
Speaker 5: You cannot see the size of the bauble. I don't want to buy it and get it delivered and it's a tiny little bauble. I want a big, nice glass bauble. I want to see it. I want to touch it. I want to feel it and make sure it would suit my tree. You don't get that experience online.
01:30:35
Speaker 1: Otherwise, you end up with a spinal tap stonehenge of baubles and nobody wants that.
01:30:38
Speaker 23: No.
01:30:39
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01:30:55
Speaker 1: 18 to 9. Happy trails to our wonderful governor here in South Australia, Frances Adamson, who at 4pm today, you were saying, Stace, will depart the lodge on North Terrace and we will be governor-less. Richard Harris, the lieutenant governor, will step into the breach. But it's a peculiar situation where we have no governor.
01:31:17
Speaker 5: Has the government not found anyone yet? Or have they found someone who just can't start yet and that's why Richard Harris is stepping in?
01:31:25
Speaker 1: Surely they're announcing it. today if they've got someone. I appreciate if they wanted to give Frances Adamson her flowers, give her some time to be the focus, but that ends now, surely. How can we not have a governor? Yes, I know technically Richard Harris is performing the role, but it does seem a little bit peculiar.
01:31:46
Speaker 5: It does seem strange. I've had quite a few very senior positions in in the state that have needed to be filled recently. And it seems like they've taken longer. There's still no Equal Opportunity Commissioner. There is now a boss of SA Health. They've gone internal for that role. A few judicial positions that are still open or have only recently been appointed, vacant for some time.
01:32:07
Speaker 6: I don't know.
01:32:08
Speaker 1: Tough act to follow, Frances Adams, to be fair. Oh, yeah. One of the classiest and smartest people that you could possibly imagine filling that role. Every time I meet Frances Adams, I was delighted that she was the governor, and I thought to myself, I really wish she was in China smoothing over our relationship with them or something like that.
01:32:26
Speaker 9: She probably was.
01:32:27
Speaker 5: She did still do diplomatic.
01:32:29
Speaker 1: Trips while in that role.
01:32:30
Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely.
01:32:30
Speaker 1: Absolutely. There was just this sort of– there's always a spark in her eye about– her brain needed greater challenges, I suspect. Yeah. And she said she's going to spend six months doing normal stuff, but– I suspect that we'll see more of her in that sort of realm perhaps into the future. We're going to take some calls in a moment, but we want to hear from you because we've got 36ers tickets to give away to the game tomorrow night. They're going to win the 36ers. They're on demand. They're struggling. They need a home crowd to get them over the line. up against Melbourne United Wednesday night at the Entertainment Centre. Tickets tough to come by. They sell out the venue, the 36ers. Barnacle Bill serving South Australian quality seafood and much, much more for over 50 years. We're inspired by this. Boom.
01:33:15
Speaker 8: Put that in the bank and smoke it.
01:33:17
Speaker 1: Put that in the bank and smoke it. Stephen Rowe a little bit earlier. What are sayings you hear people get wrong? Sayings you hear people get wrong.
01:33:25
Speaker 7: 8223 0000.
01:33:25
Speaker 10: Dominate.
01:33:28
Speaker 1: There's some classics out there. Sayings you hear people get wrong.
01:33:32
Speaker 21: Yeah.
01:33:32
Speaker 1: I've suddenly become attuned, because I do it all the time, to people saying, yeah, I've done a 360 on that.
01:33:39
Speaker 6: Oh.
01:33:40
Speaker 1: Which means you have just retained your normal position as opposed to a 180.
01:33:43
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:33:43
Speaker 11: Yeah, a 360.
01:33:44
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:33:46
Speaker 5: It's like me with the political backflip. I hate that term.
01:33:49
Speaker 1: You hate the backflip.
01:33:50
Speaker 5: Because when you do a backflip, you end up where you started. So you haven't changed your tune at all.
01:33:54
Speaker 1: You haven't actually changed.
01:33:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, it should be a U-turn. Not even a U-turn. You're going back the way.
01:33:58
Speaker 8: Anyway.
01:33:58
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:33:59
Speaker 1: Sayings people get wrong for the 36ers tickets, folks, if you'd like to get along. Great event to take the kids to. It's a lot of fun going to the basketball. School holidays. What else can you do on a Wednesday night during school holidays?
01:34:11
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
01:34:11
Speaker 1: The basketball is a lot of fun, and the Sixers will turn it around this season. It's just a matter of... when it might be Wednesday night and you could be there to see it all. 8223 0000 is the number. Get calling now with sayings that people get wrong. In the meantime, we've opened the phone lines. Michael in Blakeview has called in. Morning, Michael.
01:34:28
Speaker 6: Good morning.
01:34:29
Speaker 27: I found that line of questioning to the Treasurer a bit odd. Did anyone think to ask if Victoria is actually doing it well? Are we really aiming to be Victoria now? Is that where we've fallen to in this state?
01:34:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fair point, Michael. I guess the only thing, it just feels odd that there's anything on planet Earth that Victoria spends relatively less on than we do. So I guess that's where.
01:34:54
Speaker 27: I would have asked the question, because stats will tell you anything you want them to. If you put the right numbers in, you'll get the stats you want. How about we do a spend per square metre? Because we're twice three times the size of Victoria. I'm not going to be geography, but we've got far more coastline than they do.
01:35:10
Speaker 5: But square metres don't pay taxes, Michael.
01:35:13
Speaker 19: They don't.
01:35:13
Speaker 27: But if you've got twice as much coastline, you've got twice as much advertising regarding safety, do.
01:35:18
Speaker 25: You not, Stacey?
01:35:19
Speaker 1: No, you don't.
01:35:20
Speaker 6: You do, you do.
01:35:21
Speaker 25: Of course you do.
01:35:22
Speaker 27: You have to.
01:35:23
Speaker 19: How could you tell me you don't.
01:35:24
Speaker 27: Need half as much advertising?
01:35:25
Speaker 5: You're right, though, with the cherry-picking of data. And that's always what you get with governments and oppositions. One side will cherry-pick a certain figure and the other side will cherry-pick a different figure. And both figures support that side's argument.
01:35:38
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely.
01:35:39
Speaker 1: Good on you, Michael. Thank you. Wayne, good morning.
01:35:42
Speaker 20: Good morning, Ben.
01:35:43
Speaker 18: How are you?
01:35:44
Speaker 1: Good, Wayne.
01:35:45
Speaker 6: You good?
01:35:45
Speaker 18: Good.
01:35:46
Speaker 29: Just listening to the conversation between Ben Wood and Tony Kitsitonis following that regarding advertising, I was just thinking one of the other things that would be nice to know is the amount of money the government spend on contractors every year. And that number would be interesting to look at the size of the public service each year as it grows or shrinks or whatever.
01:36:06
Speaker 6: Often it would appear.
01:36:07
Speaker 29: That some public servants drop out of their role but they're employed as contractors. So it's our money we're taxed by just to know publicly how much that amount is, perhaps over the last three years, and look at comparing the size of the public service. The other thing, I'm in business, and you've got to be careful what you spend. If they're using a contractor or an employer contractor, do they have to get three prices over a certain figure? Call it 10 grand, I don't know. And I personally think that there should be a public.
01:36:41
Speaker 21: List of the.
01:36:42
Speaker 29: Funding that's paid to contractors have scared the living pants off a lot of us just to make it accountable.
01:36:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are strict procurement rules around the value of contracts and having to go and get various prices on certain things. And people apply to go on panels and things in the government so they get pre-approved and then the bidding process begins. I know this is an unpopular view because everyone sort of gets up in arms about government contractors. But the benefit of a contractor over... by hiring someone as a public servant, yes, you pay them more, but the moment the job ends, you can flick them.
01:37:16
Speaker 5: You don't have to pay their long service leave, their superannuation.
01:37:19
Speaker 1: It's really hard to reduce the size of the public service. But contract, you say, we need 150 concrete experts on the South Road extension. Yes, you're going to pay a premium, but the moment it ends, they're gone. If you have to bring that expertise in-house, they're on the books forever, effectively. So I appreciate that it gets a bad reputation. They get a bad rap, but I'm not as uncomfortable with that as others potentially are. Now, let's get some sayings that people get wrong, shall we? Because we've got 36 of tickets to give away, and we had a doozy earlier in the morning.
01:37:53
Speaker 8: Boom! Put that in the bank and smoke it.
01:37:55
Speaker 1: Put that in the bank and smoke it. Let's go to Grange. Kate, what's a saying people get wrong?
01:38:00
Speaker 17: My husband always gets this wrong. Whenever he's talking about something, he says, do they have to be so renal about it instead of anal? So, yeah, he always mentions the renal.
01:38:10
Speaker 1: Does he do that on purpose, Kate? Does he still irritate you?
01:38:13
Speaker 15: No, no, no, no.
01:38:15
Speaker 17: He can't even say Vietnamese. He says Vietnamese food. Vietnamese. Can't even get that right.
01:38:21
Speaker 1: Hey, Kate, I get the sense you've been married for a long time.
01:38:26
Speaker 17: Yeah, probably too long.
01:38:27
Speaker 9: Thank you.
01:38:30
Speaker 1: You, Kate. Debbie in South Plimpton, good morning.
01:38:33
Speaker 28: Morning, guys.
01:38:34
Speaker 11: I don't know why, but I've heard people lately say a fresh of a breath air.
01:38:39
Speaker 1: A fresh of a breath air?
01:38:41
Speaker 5: A fresh of breath air.
01:38:42
Speaker 9: That's disturbing.
01:38:44
Speaker 16: A breath of fresh air.
01:38:46
Speaker 10: Yeah.
01:38:47
Speaker 9: That is disturbing.
01:38:47
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that one, Debbie.
01:38:48
Speaker 9: I don't know.
01:38:49
Speaker 18: Yeah, and I don't know why, but I've heard stacks of people say it.
01:38:54
Speaker 1: That's weird.
01:38:54
Speaker 5: I'm fresh of breath.
01:38:55
Speaker 1: Thank you, Debbie. Let's go to Torrensville. Peter, what have you heard people saying wrong?
01:38:59
Speaker 2: Yes, good morning.
01:39:00
Speaker 27: Look, everybody says that you run the gauntlet, but it's actually you run the gamut because you.
01:39:06
Speaker 20: Throw the gauntlet.
01:39:07
Speaker 1: You throw down the gauntlet.
01:39:09
Speaker 9: Everybody, everywhere says you run the gauntlet.
01:39:11
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a good one.
01:39:12
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:39:12
Speaker 1: And it's totally incorrect. I've said that incorrectly many times, I'm sure. Thank you, Peter.
01:39:16
Speaker 9: Me too.
01:39:17
Speaker 1: Andrew and Seton, good morning.
01:39:19
Speaker 6: Good morning, guys.
01:39:20
Speaker 26: Yeah, the person who's going to win the tickets is almost going to certainly go through Sir Joe Bielke-Peterson's back cattle on the work. He was an absolute master of the mixed metaphor. But the two words, actually, that sort of come out to me are KG, serial offender here. The wonderful town of Nuriukta is actually Nuriukta. The people who get that wrong is just not worth talking about. The other word is people who can't pronounce the word billion.
01:39:50
Speaker 1: Billion.
01:39:52
Speaker 8: Billion.
01:39:53
Speaker 1: Depending on who you ask, people will say that's a South Australian thing or a Victorian thing.
01:39:56
Speaker 5: Really?
01:39:56
Speaker 26: I've got a lot of colleagues who use billion.
01:40:02
Speaker 1: I've heard that variously referenced as being something that is uniquely South Australian. But I've also heard people say it about Victorians as well. Marissa in Hawthorne, good morning.
01:40:14
Speaker 15: Good morning.
01:40:16
Speaker 17: People swear that the saying is another thing coming.
01:40:21
Speaker 5: You've got another thing coming.
01:40:22
Speaker 18: But it's not. It's actually think.
01:40:26
Speaker 17: You've got another think coming.
01:40:28
Speaker 18: That's the actual saying.
01:40:30
Speaker 1: You know what, Marissa? This is amazing because we, as an experiment, wondering what kind of entries people might send in, typed this into AI, and it came up with that one, and we all went, Well, the AI has got it wrong.
01:40:43
Speaker 6: Yeah.
01:40:44
Speaker 1: But you're right. You're right, Marissa. And so is it. Having looked at some of the references, I had no idea that's the origin of that saying.
01:40:53
Speaker 5: So the saying should be, you've got another think coming.
01:40:56
Speaker 1: Which sounds so wrong.
01:40:57
Speaker 5: It does sound wrong. Is it telling you that you need to think again?
01:41:01
Speaker 6: Yes.
01:41:01
Speaker 5: The first one's wrong.
01:41:02
Speaker 10: Think again.
01:41:03
Speaker 17: Think again.
01:41:04
Speaker 18: That's what I say to my kids. And they're like, that doesn't make sense. I'm like, well.
01:41:08
Speaker 9: Anyway.
01:41:09
Speaker 1: Marissa, that's a little bit of good old-fashioned organic intelligence working in concert with the AI have made us fools. Who wins the 36ers tickets?
01:41:21
Speaker 5: I think if Marissa's teaching her kids that, she can take them to the basketball and they've got another think coming.
01:41:26
Speaker 1: That sounds like a lot of fun. Barnacle Bill serving South Australians quality seafood and much, much more for over 50 years. Now, A sad story has just come through from the Defence Force who have just released a statement, some breaking news. Defence can confirm an Australian army soldier has died during a training exercise at the Mount Bundy training area on the 5th of October, 2026. So yesterday, five other Australian soldiers were injured. Next of kin have been notified. We request that The privacy of defence members and families is respected this time. Defence will provide updates when possible. So, obviously.
01:42:08
Speaker 5: This is in the Northern Territory.
01:42:09
Speaker 1: Mount Bunny in the Northern Territory, okay. Obviously, first and foremost, our thoughts are with the family of the wounded and deceased soldier. But six people involved. So, five injured and one have died. We don't know the nature of... of the training exercise that was being undertaken or any more detail than what you've just heard. That's just come out. So there'll be more on that over the course of the day as Defence makes further public statements. Let's check traffic. Enjoy your outdoor area all year round with an opening and closing roof designed, manufactured and installed locally by Louverhouse.
01:42:42
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01:42:50
Speaker 3: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:42:59
Speaker 1: Right on two and a half minutes tonight. Graeme Gooding's coming up after nine o'clock this morning. Let's have a look at the fuel situation. Oh, my goodness. It's just a nightmare filling up at the moment. There is some good news on the way because shipping within the Strait of Hormuz is 90% of pre-war levels. It's largely returning to normal. Most of that 10% is Iranian shipping that has been blocked by the United States. So, theoretically, I know you're rolling your eyes already.
01:43:26
Speaker 6: I know.
01:43:27
Speaker 1: The pressure point is being relieved of pressure. When will that flow through? Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see. Not this morning, I can tell you. Fuel watch, thanks to the RAA. Don't get stuck on the side of the road. Get RAA road service. Unleaded, the Yugo St Mary South Road, $ 2.
01:43:42
Speaker 15: 21. 9.
01:43:42
Speaker 1: Mobile Blair Athol is at $ 2.
01:43:42
Speaker 7: 25. 5.
01:43:43
Speaker 1: The Yugo West Hindmarsh, $ 2.
01:43:44
Speaker 7: 25. 5.
01:43:44
Speaker 1: Also, diesel is where it's particularly nasty. The Leroy's McLaren Pahal Main Road, $ 2. 69. 9. The United Melrose Park South Road, $ 2.
01:44:00
Speaker 8: 79. 3.
01:44:01
Speaker 1: We're listing that as cheap.
01:44:03
Speaker 9: It's extraordinary.
01:44:04
Speaker 1: Enjoy your Tuesday, folks. We'll catch you tomorrow morning from SIGS.
01:44:09
Speaker 8: I was trying to find.
01:44:12
Speaker 3: My way home But all I heard was a drone Bouncing off.
01:44:20
Speaker 1: A satellite Crushing... It is what it is.
01:44:26
Speaker 4: Is there any baby alive?