Ep. 229 Frank Marshall King:The Shocking Truth About Self-Care, Orgasm, and Lowering Depression

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[SPEAKER_03]: A note to our audience today's episode touches on sensitive themes, specifically mental health struggles and suicide.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Please prioritize your well-being and step away if needed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you need immediate support, please call or text 988.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got two men alone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is near suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Four times who has had lost her driver, more nuts in my family than in a squirrel turd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This last tech stock I did is the sixth item in my self-care plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My 14th tech stock is called mental health in the orgasm treated oppression single handedly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to another exciting episode of the Giants Valley Inter Circle podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mayors, mother, we've got a great one today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Today's guest, there's this four adjectives that come to mind.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As I describe this guest to our audience, audacious, multifaceted, resilient, and let's go with strategic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the reason I say that is that our guest, Frank King, is a comic veteran who has been on the stages with the Greeks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Signed field, Adam Sandler, Jeff Foxworthy, and others.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Perhaps notably, he's been a writer for decades on the tonight show previously.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's done work in the area of suicide prevention, in terms of speaking about his own personal experience, which will obviously dive into today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's the founder of the Speak In Grow Welty Method, which I'm excited to hear about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And last, perhaps most notably, he survived the humiliation of losing to a puppet on Star Search.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, with that freight King lumped in the podcast, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks, guys, Jeremy and Tim, minutes late.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're, God, what a dick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: God, we were thinking, it didn't feel like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We assure you, we're happy you're here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, what's wrong with this guy, man?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's a dick.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He did not say that and Frank, he did not say that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So Frank, I suspect with how we're starting off, this is gonna be a good one for our audience to listen to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So let me ask you the audience question, Frank.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So comedy, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love comedy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: for so many different reasons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what would I be to it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How'd you get started to it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you come out with a room and say, hey, mom, five years old, give me the mic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to tell you guys some jokes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I get that question frequently, where you're born funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, as a matter of fact, an amusing thing happened on the way down the barzcanel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm nine years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm nine years old, fourth grade, fourth grade, nine years old, world of joke, kids laugh, teachers were so hysterical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She had to excuse herself to go to the teacher's lounge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought at that moment, I'm going to be a stand-up comedian.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In 12th grade, I took three years of drama and never got a good part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Never got speaking part in any school play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought the talent shows coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Spring semester 12th grade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I do stand up comedy, I can write and direct, produce and star in my little show every night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the first person ever at Broughton Senior High School in Raleigh, North Carolina, ever to do stand up at the senior talent show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I won, of course, I beat the accordion player in the folk dance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not a big victory, but still a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of a little bar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I told my mom I wanted L.A to be a comedian and she's big on education because no son as you go into college first, I don't give it a damn what you do when you get done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You be a goat herner for all I care but you're going to be a goat herner with a college degree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would do as each Apple Hill pick up a couple of college degrees, multiple of the West Coast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, when to work for an insurance company in Raleigh, they moved me to San Diego, which was for two of us because there's a branch of the comedy store, the world famous in San Diego to this day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: April 1st, I did my first open mic night halfway through my set.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard a voice inside my head say you're home 18 months later said to my lovely wife of 39 years then my girlfriend I'm gonna wrote it to be a comic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to come along for the ride figure and she'd go Hell no she goes yeah So we gave up the apartment and our job jumped into my tea tiny little Dodge cult and we were on the road together for 2000
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[SPEAKER_00]: six hundred and twenty-nine nights in a row non-stop just club the club the club beer bar pool haul drunk in the ice cream and tells him jokes we can dance too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're coming to slow you can slow that yeah so that's seven years in change and and did work with at absentee open for me Duke University thousand kids wow now they weren't expecting me you know opening up for my famous is is is
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[SPEAKER_00]: never a good idea, although, you know, a good idea for the resume item, bad idea for performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So pick for this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what they're here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ladies and gentlemen, one minute only from Saturday Night Live, Adam Sandler.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now some jackass, you don't know, telling jokes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got 30 minutes of you stock and I had to keep it clean.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't go back after, and we know it was a heck of a line because that's so anyway, about 20 minutes in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I stopped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, all right, it's look.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to do 30 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to paycheck in my pocket.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys scream.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can yell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can do it everyone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not leaving until my 30 minutes is up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I go backstage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Adam Sandler's tuning is guitar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He looks up at me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, oh, Frank.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Adam, we know how it works.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they weren't expecting me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They, they time their drugs and alcohol to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm interviewing with their high.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, open up Steve Harvey, Birmingham, Alabama Steve saved me from an ass woman, actually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We went to the YMCA in Birmingham to play basketball, and I got to shove him that to run the locals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was a local standing on either side of Steve Harvey on the sidelines, and they started to step out on the court to help their friend to Steve goes, look, I don't even like Frank.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We came here together, so if you get in, I gotta get in, and it's just gonna get ugly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they step back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was my Steve Harvey's story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my way, he was never a great comic, but their guy would have salesman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could sell mediocre material like nobody's business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So nice and industry on to himself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, good stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So something to come to mind is growing up, let's put it part of my time in Atlanta and comedy act theater.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was there when it started.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And at least to get tickets, I feel like we would go twice a week every week for ever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And because I just enjoyed coming that much and plus how many back then, you know, was just, you know, 90s was, is everything was everything, you know, everybody wanted to laugh or you're, so I felt for saw a lot of these early comments come through like they should pay off Steve Harvey, Michael Callier, Bernie Mac, what he came through, what about favorite of his was a death comedy jam and the story, you brought me to the story, but no, I do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was one of his best sets, and what he shared was, right people he came out, whoever was before him, Bob.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Crow was like just, you know, on 10, again, this is duck comedy jam.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like the Apollo essentially.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So if you work funny, then I give me any grace.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, he's back there, nervous and whatnot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he comes out on stage and he goes to the DJ, you know, comes cut the music.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He starts off by saying, I ain't scared of you, mopos.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've got to say, you know, he's usually going to flex with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As everybody was like, whoa, he did his set.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then he said, he said, get it, music came on, he did his dance, he said, cut it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, so he just, he, my, my point of sharing that story is, you know, you have the hackers and either you, you're, you're, you're, you, you know, it's like your tail and walk off stage.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My question for you, I've ever failed on stage and how to go, what'd you do?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How's it get around that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're Lord.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, never ask a comic as best show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ask him as worst show, he'll tell ya, a chapter in verse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, I worked the ships, boats, 2009 to COVID, doing comedy on cruise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did some on carnival, which is a sleigh ride through hell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, oh yeah, yeah, they they working at two shows at three shows at night six nights a week and they pay with the worst and then you have to a family clean show and then a dirty 30 and I mean I dirty 30 the MC comes out and goes look this is the adult show if you're easily offended get the F out now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they're drunk, they come for a verbal fistfight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got friends, comments, you won't work that run from San Pedro down the port of Ireland back, because they come after you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they smell blood in the water, you're done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I get on stage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a middle illness or two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's the flip side of my imagination, creativity and comic ability, because I can actually return a heck, return a hecklefire without literally that think it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People ask me, how do you think that up?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know when you heard it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a guy in the front row.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I grabbed the mic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm setting it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He screams out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You suck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a way to debate and I go, yeah, you f and swallow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you guys come with high five meal and stay here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where did that come from?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well tell me this, so when that's since you've had 2,000 days on tour and you were doing the comedy for many, many years, was there ever an audience that you walked out of in and you just nervous, like, but you saw your hero, I don't know whether that's Johnny Carson or you saw Eddie Murphy, you just walked out and I was like, oh my God, this person's here, do you do professional comics get nervous or who's like your idol that
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, occasionally an entertainer comic or whatever will be in town film the movie and like Robin Williams twice I was working Charlie Goodnison Raleigh as MC we're gonna radio station there and he's he and danger field No, he and Sam Kenson were filming a movie in Chapel Hill that's 30 miles away So he came over Charlie Goodnights.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a midnight and I said listen Bob and I'll put you right up because no, no, let's see some of the guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's other right open migrants finish because you know if I go up
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which I thought was very gracious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could have said, like, yeah, put my, put my nair ass up now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he waited until all the other overbikers had their time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he'd go at the place, went nuts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He endangered fuel from a show in San Diego.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was working to comedy store and Robin showed up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And nice guy did two shows, not, not frenetic off stage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brilliant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And two shows were almost identical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The magic for him is he makes it look like it just occurred to him at that moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, same jokes, different ways to be ever the same jokes, but he makes it look like, you know, it just popped into his head, and I think that's a, I don't speak a friend of mine, complain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys, you know, I've been doing this same speech.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, four, five, six dozen times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get no like a dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've done my comedy show my set basic set probably 10,000 times the what you owe the audience is they need to believe you just thought it up You know what I say I flew in on a small plane, you know a commuter plane, you know what that means me my travel agents of fucking dead man Yeah, yeah Yeah, it's big yeah, Boeing 7.7.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's three guys in front of your we both the They've got to believe that happens that day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_00]: They need to believe that happened that day and of course it happened years before, but that's the magic of I'd say the worst show ever had
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[SPEAKER_00]: for a reason for one reason you'll understand it's like, I'm in King's port Tennessee, part of the Tri-Cities in Tennessee, King's port, John City, something else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So King's port, John City.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, and I'm not saying, I'm not saying everybody in King's port is a Bible thumb and race bait in the home before we go red and neck who thinks the Holocaust is fake and wrestling is real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just the people who came to my show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the guy in front of me, Pat Miller, sadly now deceased, but a wonderful guy, 300 pounds, three feet tall, three feet wide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had built a platform with the comics to get them up a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So everybody in the audience can see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When he's walking across that platform and aboard breaks, under his foot, cow, everybody can hear it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Best ad lib I've ever heard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He turns to the audience and goes, look, nobody panic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a stage I'm going through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, why do you follow that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they loved him, they hated me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got my blazer on, my button down, my wee jeans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a very letterman ask.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was my sort of my role model of, you know, kind of that snarky.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm about 15 is in my show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't see past the first row because the light.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I can see over the shoulder of the guy in the front row is the hand of the guy in the second row with a nickel plate of 38 with the hammer back pointed at me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I turned sideways to make it smaller target.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lower my elbow to come up out of the organs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not my first rodeo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and waited in about 90 seconds in, and this is pure East Tennessee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A woman in the back got tired of waiting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She goes, hey, either shoot him or put it away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do he want to shoot you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't like me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Pat, where's Pat?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bring Pat back, Pat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, it's a great video, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: From Texas, Joe, he's comedy something, down in Texas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a guitar icon on stage, he's playing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And some guy in the eyes is heckling it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And heckling him, and heckling him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And finally the guy's having the comedies had enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, look, come on up here, M.F.R.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you can hear it is a one camera.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can hear chairs moving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can see the shadow of the guy coming up on a wall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just as he gets to the stage, the guitar takes off his acoustic guitar and L.C.Bong's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, raise it back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's crashed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You put it back on with the pick and as the guy hits the ground, if you listen carefully, you can hear the guy hits the ground.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't mind having money back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Comic Ghosts in jail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he says, you saw he made me do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, you see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they put it across my five grand to get it, you know, get out of a, having to serve time and Texas and man, serving time and tell me I fear going to jail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I look like the composite drawing and before they all get it, you know, sort it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm too pretty to go to jail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to say my ride with a son,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be picking up my China pattern when the number was dry on my shirt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be faced on a month when you could say, logical visit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well tell me this, Frank.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say you mentioned you were two thousand days on the road with your now wife.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you got off the road, you did some low budget cruise ships.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you talk about the business of being a comic for someone young that's listening to and they want to get into the business of comedy?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, a couple of things were happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One, you know, I worked with Seinfeld and Adam Sandler and Kevin James and Steve and Rosie and Olga.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, back then, if that headline
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could end up on tour with them, bigger venues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that didn't happen for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could get picked up and do a sitcom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there were opportunities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a facts writer for The Tonight Show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wrote from a distance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I used to turn in 1224 jokes a day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The dream was that somebody, they need another writer in house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're good enough, they pluck you from obscurity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Next thing you know, you're in Burbank at the writer's table, didn't happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the comedy club boom began to bust in the early 90s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd been to the rally many times, and every time I went, we'd promote the show on WRDU106, the home of Rock and Roll.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'd said to them, one of those times, look, if you guys ever need a morning DJ, I would love the interview.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got a call, and because the morning show, Kevin and Silva, so Reynolds and Silva, Reynolds couldn't come to an agreement with radio station on the contract.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they weren't going to budge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got an interview.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now they asked me, in the interview, do you take direction well?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They hired me and 18 months later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They fired me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know why can't take direction so so I used that 18 months You know to because the comedy thing was dying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hadn't made it to the next level yet So I knew and then and I was a clean comic So I knew that I could go to the corporate comedy circuit the rubber chicken circuit after dinner after lunch People ask me what's the difference in a club comic and a corporate comic?
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[SPEAKER_00]: about $5,000 a night plus travel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm no math major, but that made sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I use that 18 months to, you know, back a little money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, set up to become getting a corporate market, which I did for, yeah, actually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I took that number one morning show in Droga to number six and 18 months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a friend of mine said, man, you didn't grab that ground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'd roll it in the middle of the earth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, well the problem is I didn't come up in radio.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't say any dirty on the air, but I mean, I went after sponsors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I thought the sponsor done something stupid, I go after them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can't do that because they'll stop paying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the money.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was a car dealer in town Bobby Murray Chevrolet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He bought an ad on station every, you know, for a year, like like a $25,000 account per year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was in a mood one morning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're doing state.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, every animal, every state is an animal, you know, every state is an animal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they have a flower, they would treat it, so we're talking about state animals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were just like, Frank, what do you think, North Carolina state animal is?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Bobby was a plus-sized fella.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, I think it's a whale, and I believe that guy, Bobby Murray.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whew.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good night to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good night to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Marilyn Blankenship was the salesperson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had to restrain her from killing me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because she'd make a 20% on $25,000 every, and I mean, it was just, and that was just one incident.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there were many more just like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jessie Helms called one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you guys were going to Jessie Helms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the article appeared in the paper, said the price of tobacco is dropping.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, per pound or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then a farmer quoted, I'll believe the price per pound is dropping because of the demand for tobacco is dropping.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I go in the air and I go, you think farmer John to demand for tobacco is dropping.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm guessing that is, I'm no economist, but if you use of your product to buy a as directed is killing your customer base sometime, that's going to drop out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just he had a big money from tobacco.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Calls up a station.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Calls me on the air.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tax is on the back of brought to build all the hospitals in this state.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Jesse, and I runically it keeps up full
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[SPEAKER_00]: We use the interview people who had books coming out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We interview Willie Nelson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they said in the studio, they do one interview after another.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my partner and some of my gotten out, we were a medium-sized station and medium market station.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But somehow you got hooked up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we had some really great interviews.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's Willie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I always waste the very end as my question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I go, Willie, hey, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You sold enough cargo jet to pay the hour.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's back all that money, y'all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The blood drained out of my partner's veins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they go, I believe that, Frank.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for asking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was your pivot from radio?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where did you go from there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Corporate Gommany, 5,000 bucks a night plus travel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You did mention that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then that was much more lucrative for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then you pivoted out of that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know at some point, you started doing TED talks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, I think you have, was over 14 or 15 TED talks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just didn't my fourth, eight, none of the fourth of July.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Queensland.
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[SPEAKER_03]: two questions for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's the common thread of those talks?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And how did you get into that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, during the recession, when speaking of all kinds, when it's comedy or, you know, motivation, whatever, dropped off to nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when we filed chapter seven, bankruptcy, lost everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when I learned what the barrel of my gun tasted like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Literally, I tell the audience, spoiler alert.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't pull the trigger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They get a nervous laugh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I go, he's supposed to laugh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when conferences came back I'd always wanted to make a living end to difference not just 45 minutes of endorphins for the comedy club audience I wanted to make a difference in people what but I can never figure out what I wanted to talk about But I have to what did I have to teach anybody and then I did this sort of a personal inventory Let's see We've got two mental illnesses near suicide four times suicide loss survivor
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[SPEAKER_00]: more nuts in my family than in a squirrel turd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess because who's happy with you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I got some training, so I got training.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my second thought was, now, who's gonna take me seriously after 25 years of coming?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my wife said, do a TEDx talk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, what's TEDx talk?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got an application that week from my TEDx and Canada, filled it out, got the audition, got the talk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that led everybody know the Frank, although a comedian can do something serious who's happy with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with humor of course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when I did my first TEDx talk on that, it's called start to compensation on suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said to the audience, my first joke in that TED talk was, I did some research went to TEDx.com or whatever, to see how other people handle the topic was suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I figured it'd be 34 dozen talks on suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were three talks on suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said to the audience, well, if you're really good at suicide, you're probably not going to meet recording a TEDx talk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they realized at that moment,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my grandmother killed a cell of the gas stove.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My great aunt killed a cell for the old style refrigerator.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but because I've got only that's why they hire me because I got I got lived experience, you know, near Suicide, Suicide Law Survivor and I teach them signs and symptoms depression thoughts, Suicide, what say and do so I teach them something humor, you know, the.
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[SPEAKER_00]: of the meme planners called me and I'm doing a keynote for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said Michelle, what do you mean, what does she knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I put a gun on my mouth, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're already on me to cover in my keynote, she just she's not actually not thinking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She goes, I just give me a couple of bullet points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I let that hang in the and she goes, oh my God, oh my God, my God, I go relax Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just too good and let it go by.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, tell me this, Frank.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, all seriousness, it seems like today a lot of people are struggling with mental health for a variety of reasons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What would you say to someone who may have these suicide ideations or who may have these symptoms and don't recognize it as being on the edge, considering these, you know, these bad choices?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What would you say to them to get them to kind of
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[SPEAKER_03]: you know, turning things around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, depression is the biggest cause of suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's say they depress and they know it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My advice would be, A, have a physical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because sometimes physical ailments present in his mental ailments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: B, get a mental health evaluation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Find out if the depression is garden variety of depression, major depresor disorder, the depresor state of bipolar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I recommend they have a self-care plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my takeaway for the audience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's never self-care plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mine is diet, I'm on the keto diet, and I do intermittent fasting 186 exercise, exercise five to six days a week, and I actually actually do bodybuilding contest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got no coming up in September.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My eighth bodybuilding contest, and you can't tell by looking at me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm, you know, I'm building like a bird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get, you know, tell anyway, die to exercise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good night's sweet meditation medication.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this last day, next talk I did is the sixth item in myself, Caripel, and masturbation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My 14th Deadx dog is called mental health in the orgasm treated oppression single-handedly So so I really appreciate you detailing some of the sides right because especially men You know, we're the most you know out of touch, you know, in terms of you know I heard a guy an athlete say once I don't share any of my problems with anyone
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[SPEAKER_03]: because I'm a man, I'm supposed to handle it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, man, this guy probably is just a parakeye, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just went to go off and he's, you know, holding all this stuff or forever.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm glad you shared that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then also the self-care thing, detailing what that looks like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Cause again, so as you would guys, you know, self-care, it sounds like something like, it's like pansy, you know, we, we're gonna go get my nails down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What do you say it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's a meditation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but yeah, I don't think I have that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm so glad you shared that and that it's something that is beneficial and work.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So for those listening, you know, I definitely hope that it resonates with those that it needs to resonate with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and, meant, they had to have 10 suicides in the U.S. these days on average men, because as I was raised in the South, big boys don't cry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They call it toxic masculinity, but big boys don't cry, and they don't ask for help often times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in men, the production often manifests itself as anger, rather than, you know, being low.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they tend not to seek treatment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, one of the benefits is speaking on this topic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I get down a little keynote,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I say the audience, look, we're going to do some general Q&A.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if you got a question you want to ask for story you want to share, and you don't want to share it, because I was doing a construction company at a construction site, mostly male.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then I'll hang out on other 34 if I'm in a particular individually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this day, there's half a dozen guys lined up, which surprised me, because guys tend not to be forthcoming about this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last guy in line, African American, I'm guessing mid 20s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Crying so hard he can't speak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wait and he gathered himself and I say man, what's up?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm flipping to night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I work on the fifth floor of this building.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think about jumping off every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he'd been talking to a normal person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That guy would have pooped his pants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I imagine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I said, why is that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes out of law street people in the last year to violence, including my daughter who died in my arm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like somebody to pull the pin on that emotional grenade and drop in your lap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Without missing a beat, I weighed the HR guy over high, make a look, chief.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to go get the employee assistance program binder, turn to the mental health section, finally, the mental health facility closest to where we're standing right this minute and take this nice young man literally by the hand and get him there now because he's circling the drain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a couple of months later, I had occasion to talk to the HR guy and I'm terrified that it's finally got my nerve up again, hey man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What happened to that carbon der that I talked to there at the end of the you know, Frank, he was evaluated, medicated, he's back on the job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a little ROI for your speech.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a nice ROI.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to I want to circle back also with you are talking about suicide from your experience and your research and your your talks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are the top three reasons why people commit suicide or consider doing it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, when I said a little bit more nuts in my family in a squirrel turd, depression was at running my family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's generational.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's called generational depression suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My grandmother died by suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My mother found her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My great aunt died by suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My mother and I found her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was four years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I screamed for days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll spare you the story because it is horror movie horrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's in my DNA, it's people where we are going to be cured, no, no, I live with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I manage it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do believe it is the flip side of my creativity and comic ability.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, it's kind of like blessing the curse in their situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like this gentleman who lost three people including his daughters, that's situational.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it can be genetic and in my case, I was so close to that suicide when I was four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're that close to a suicide and you're already hard-wired for it, then the chance of you seriously considering doing it later in life, go up and that's what happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because we were broke, my wife was devastated and I had a million dollar life insurance policy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I can fix this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I went to the barn to see if I could put the gun in my mouth pull the hammer back and guess what, I could.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but I didn't know if my life insurance policy was fully in effect because there's a two two-year suicide clause in the policy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I call my insurance agent, like, I mean, how long I had that policy?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes, you've had 22 months and don't do it because he delivered checks after you got phone calls like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had to wait too much to kill myself on the thing for what I can do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The reason is, we're
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of my mental illnesses is called chronic suicidal ideation, meaning for me and people in my tribe, the officer suicides always on the menu as a solution for problems large and small.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, if there's some emotional upheaval, you know, I said to the audience, when I say small, my car broke down a couple years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At three thoughts, unbid, one good effects, two by a new and three, I could just kill myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's chronic suicidal ideation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the benefit of telling that story and my keynote is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost every time I spoke and there's been so many of the artists who has that and they don't know it has a name They think they're just some kind of freak and all along The young woman come up at a college show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She said thanks for the keynote So you're welcome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She goes my god.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Taya made me weep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't make you weep She goes, you know you story about the car good to fix buying new and kill yourself I mean you're them and have a thoughts like that all my life I thought it was just me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was some kind of freak and completely alone
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I heard you say that out loud, I realized for the first time in my life that in fact I was not alone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that, and the gentleman in Cincinnati, the construction worker, that's one of the reasons that I don't kill myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I feel like George Bailey, and it's a wonderful life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been showing what these people's lives would be like if I weren't there to tell my story and hear theirs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I kill myself, in theory, I would take a lot of those people with a freak of stuff like you share that are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, me too, that's a George Bailey, a wonderful life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like every time I watch that door Christmas and everyone comes to save him because they didn't know he was in trouble or struggling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just get all the emotional, that's a classic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wish they would.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's just, I mean, he just looks around and all the lives that he touched.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think what's in it, that little angel that took him around and showed them everyone that he touched, that's such a wonderful thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Angel's hand earned his wings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he gave somebody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never thought about it's a wonderful life as a suicide movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're in my jumps in the river and clearance the angel saves them because George is going to kill himself because he, you know, the angel shows him the impact he's had.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's your question that I didn't, and radio, if you open a loop, great, you got to close it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You ask me, is there something common through the line in all my TEDx talk?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is that it's all, all are about mental health, mental illness, there's that prevention one aspect, or another.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, or my origin story is always the same, but it's another idea about mental health.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hold your question?
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[SPEAKER_03]: and thank you for closing the loop on that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So the question is this strategy of the speak and grow wealthy about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Talk to me about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, speakers, unfortunately, don't realize they're not speakers who sell in market, they're actually sales and marketing people who speak, because you don't sell in market.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you're not going to be speaking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you need to be applying for one to five conference speaking gaze a day every day of the week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I provide them with a hundred leads a week conferences.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Show them how to sort and filter the Excel spreadsheet, find the ones that are the best fit, see if they're paying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's some AI tools nowadays where you can customize the pitch to each event group and what you can do for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a numbers game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're not
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, fill out one to five Congress applications a day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, there are other elements.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to make sure that your website could SEO and now a day is, you need to make sure you're getting good GEO and AEO for AI.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the AI search is confined.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there are other elements.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's what I teach is, all right, how do you get it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you get GEO for AI?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, here's that work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or, you know, so I teach in the business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you optimize your LinkedIn profile as a speaker?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what should it say?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, your profile says you do am way and Bitcoin and blockchain and real estate and you know what if I'm like, oh, and speaking if I'm looking for a speaker or something, I don't want something that has five things they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want the guy like me, you go to my website.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just screams suicide prevention.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're going to link down all the screams in his TEDx code.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I teach him the business of the speaking business.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So any of your speakers speak on the high school circuit or the middle school circuit and is that lucrative?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It can be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've spoken a number of high schools.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are admirers never spoken in a middle school, although I can make it age appropriate for middle school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I spoke at high school and a newfoundland recently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most polyoconais are polite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think any of them had their cell phones on them because I had seen them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was looking at the phone while I was talking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, so I guess they took where your phones, they all pulled out their phones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They means you had them, they just didn't look at it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'd rather, I'd rather face a firing squad than a high school, you know, assembly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not my jam, but, you know, it is possible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is possible to make good living and you would get to focus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the thing about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not only do you have to pick a lane to speak in, like, see what's that prevention, or motivation, or customer service, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to select your people you want to work for so you're not spraying and praying and marking everybody in the world so in his case he said look this is a great market middle in high school so that way always I'm sure all is marketing as focused on middle in high school middle in high school so and at overtime as he said you become known for speaking in middle school in high school so it has a
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a multiplying effect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I picked the top 10 adverse occupations for suicide construction being number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last year, roughly a thousand people died in construction accidents over 5,000 died by suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your five times more likely to jump off the building and fall off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why construction is my top market.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, well, this has been fascinating, Frank.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Before we go into the final four, was there any questions we didn't ask you about that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We should have asked you for anything you wanted to discuss?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You would ask me about, suppose somebody is suicidal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I get that question, if somebody you think is, you think it's suicidal, then I say go with your gut, or they tell you they're suicidal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What in the hell do I say?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you say, do you have a plan?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they have a plan, what is your plan?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if it's detail, time, place, and method, you need to get them to a mental health facility as soon as possible or to very least, on the phone with 988 or
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the reason, because anybody can stop a suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to be a mental health professional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I tell the audience, look, bad news is, last year, we're 50,000 people in the US died by suicide, one every eight and a half minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good news is, you can make it every inch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can save a life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can do it by doing something as simple as what we're doing right here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is starting a conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you know how, and I'm gonna teach you how.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So anybody can stop a suicide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're willing to step up,
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[SPEAKER_00]: and say, you know, are you having thoughts of suicide?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you just gave me, we go through these podcasts and every now and then someone will have a t-shirt moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anybody can stop the suicide.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a t-shirt moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One time after one time after a keynote, a psychologist came up to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And said, what qualifies you to talk about suicide prevention?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a psychologist was like, I just, you know, therapist, I go, well, I can tell you what the girl in my gun tastes like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the silence and followed as a look chief, I could go to college and learn absolutely everything you know you will never know everything I know that's what qualifies me Well, I want to switch gears when you a little bit we're going to go in the final four and this might be a little different
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[SPEAKER_02]: But first, Final Four, which is an original question for you, Frank, you're a trained, skilled, comedian with decades of experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who makes you laugh?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bill Burr.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When he, when he's performing, it looks like he's just occurring to him, like he's just riffing, you know, just ranting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first joke I ever heard him tell, I tuned in to like a middle of a Netflix version of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this, and I couldn't believe he was even by that funny that I wasn't already aware of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the joke was, uh, yeah, you know my mother said to me, why can't you be more like your father?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, okay, screw you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm leaving about I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Classic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you have good taste now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's watch a have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's the best piece of advice you've ever received?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The richest are in the niches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I could have I have three four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a motivational speed to cardiac comedy speech because I've had do aortic valve replacement double bypass hard tag in three stents.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got 25 minutes on cardio.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a you know a networking speech and I'll make a laughing cry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: back in the late nineties, somebody said to me, you know, the registered in the industry didn't pick a lane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, of course, I didn't take that advice until 2014.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Slow learner, but that's the thing is, is whatever business you are in, you need to be A, the best in that business, the expert and a follower, in that lane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a guy here at Townsend on auto body shop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean Eugene and I mean this is this to say the town is environmentally sensitive, you know, they, I mean, before they cut down a tree here, you got to pull the tree yard is off of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you could hug your waist on the ground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to get a tree down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's out of a body shop only uses environmentally safe products.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It costs more for the person who's getting their car fixed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It takes long for us to drive, but he knows his market.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Eugene.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wrecked my car.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, I needed an estimate to go to the final.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, bring it back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I go how long I have to wait.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Six weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a six week waiting list.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because he is, that's his lane, and he knows his customers are the people who are environmentally sensitive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why the riches are in the, in the initiative, I say if you're gonna be a speaker or a comedian, if you're gonna be a comedian and you tell political jokes, that's all you should do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're gonna be a dirty comedian,
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[SPEAKER_00]: then be the dirtiest comedian on the planet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because one F bomb will not get you a job as a dirty comic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll keep you from getting a job as a clean comic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're going dirty and I have several guys I knew who are just hysterical, just filthy, really well-written, Jimmy Carr from England is just, you know, but it's really well-written, he found his knit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So whether you're comic or speaker or a lot of body shop owner, no side hustles, no,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because that's just a distraction, because you want to be known for that one thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're, you're, the sentence, you need an all-year promo as his Frank King is an expert speaker and suicide prevention period.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what the meeting plan I want to see, you're the guy, and so, you know, the riches are in the nation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the third question is, another twist on our final four, you have a dinner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You, and three of other comedians, a live or dead, who's at that dinner with you and why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: As a friend of mine would say, this is a joke you wrote.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, preferably there are a lot, because otherwise, Bill Byrd, Jimmy Carr, and Keith Obama, a huge album of fam from the North Center, you know, Father's Griffith is very funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, sometimes I got him a job, sometimes I kept moving the job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bill Burr, Jimmy Carr.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's one thing that most people don't know about you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You wish they knew.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm going to don't dinner time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, hey, are you sneaks right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most people don't want to know that I might be ill. Because you know, the bodybuilders call your clothes a pump cover.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you can't tell, I'm a slightly built anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, when I'm going to my posing class today because posing is, you have to learn how to pose for these because you're double, but front double, back double, back double, back steps, you know, that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and I, if I'm in my little trunks and I got my body fat down to 4% then people go, ffff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the best compliment I've ever gotten ever get is, oh, nice Photoshop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, the only thing fake there is the tan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and, yeah, so it's, yeah, and what is that do it is I'm a Facebook group and everybody at Green Wave in high school, Class of 75.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So every time we do a contest, I think I have the best picture of me on stage, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I posted it on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, each or hard life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you said that Frank, you maybe think about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was 1989.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I went to Eugene Oregon the first time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't realize it was the Oregon ducks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was so excited to buy a sweater with the muscular duck on it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it was pretty diesel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that the right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's Eugene, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eugene or God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the sad part of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I lost to a puppet on the original star's urge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was a duck puppet, and now I live in Eugene where there's nothing but the duck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've never seen a duck pocket, well, if you've got any, if you've got a YouTube type in Frank King, and then the initials JTO, Frank King, JTO, and Bobby Duck, you can see me lose this is the duck prep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you this, uh, for eight, I'll pass it a smile here so you wrap it wrap it up for us, but
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[SPEAKER_03]: you're everything and more just a great conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate it, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Frank.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We really appreciate you and thanks for your time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I close this out like a comedian one?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, please.
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