DevOps and Docker Talk: Cloud Native Interviews and Tooling

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Bret is joined by Ravi Lachhman, Field CTO at Shipa, to discuss the basics of Shipa application and policy management, and show off the developer experience that Shipa brings to apps running on IaC and GitOps tools like ArgoCD, Crossplane, Terraform, Kubernetes, and more.

Shipa is focused on the layer above the infrastructure where application developers can avoid other Kubernetes manifest tools like Helm or Kustomize, and create a cleaner contract between what their application needs are and how the infrastructure provides them.

If you've done Kubernetes YAML long enough, you know that it can get quite complex and verbose, and it requires both infrastructure and developer roles or knowledge to fully configure it. So you kind of got to know both worlds. But Shipa wants to fit in the middle somewhere, not replacing the infrastructure tools like Terraform or Crossplane, but rather working on top of them, providing an easier way to describe your apps from a dev's point of view and how they work on top of your infrastructure. It focuses on the application requirements, not necessarily how those requirements are implemented. Streamed live on YouTube on April 14, 2022.

Unedited live recording of this show on YouTube (Ep #166). Includes demos.

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00:00:00DDT MAIN

00:00:03Intro

00:03:11Bret Custom Intro

00:05:41Main Show

00:06:21Introductions

00:06:43About Ravi

00:07:56Any advice for starting engineers?

00:10:56Never stop learning

00:12:28It's ok to get it wrong the first time

00:13:00It's crucial to create reproducible deployments

00:14:24Infrastructure-as-code

00:15:30Application-as-code vs Infrastructure-as-code

00:18:06Shipa is a two-part thing

00:19:18What does Shipa 'replace'?

00:22:04Is Shipa strictly designed for Kubernetes?

00:23:08One-line developer experience

00:26:38Bret was a diehard swarm fan

00:29:29How flexible is this?

00:31:30Docker can't make pants

00:32:18What Bret was hoping might be implemented

00:34:03Preparing for demo?

00:34:23Bret doesn't want to develop in Kubernetes

00:36:17Demo intro

00:36:48Crossplane

00:38:21Q: Shipa working through Crossplane?

00:38:42Q: How else can I adopt Shipa without Crossplane?

00:39:43Q: Shipa versions - on-prem and SaaS

00:45:22Question: Will it override the YAML of Kubernetes?

00:50:15Devs shouldn't handle so much infrastructure

00:51:19Where else can people get started?

00:51:46Q: OAM and OpenAPI

00:53:21Q: Is AAC similar to OpenAPI?

00:53:51Q: What is Shipa's Roadmap or Vision?

00:56:09Networking is complex

00:58:06Winding down

00:59:46Outro

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