A Conversation with Cancelled Movie Report

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Oh, try seeing something again?
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Hey, can you hear me?
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Oh, yes, yes, there it is.
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Okay.
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Cool, I'm just re-riding you through mine as well, one minute.
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Yes.
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How are you doing, man?
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Nice to finally meet you.
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Yeah, I'm doing well. Nice to meet you too.
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How are you doing?
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Pretty good.
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You go by Campbell, right?
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That's what my friends at Webb even work with me call me.
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I'll go by anything.
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Okay.
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But he called me Campbell a lot, so I just break it into the show,
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because I know he's eventually going to call me Campbell on my.
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Okay.
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It'll be weird if I've never addressed it.
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Campbell, Michael, anything, anything really.
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Okay.
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Michael, but I understand that people call me Campbell.
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Yeah, I heard the intro in there, and I was like,
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maybe I heard the accent wrong, and it's like,
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does he go by Campbell or Campbell?
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That makes sense now.
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It's just a shortening of Campbell, yes.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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It's a very Australian thing to do, just shortening absolutely everything
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to a weird nickname.
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Like, Eden's last name is Porter, but a bunch of people call him Porter,
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which is just an Australian thing to be like,
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"It's not even that much shorter, it's just a weird nickname."
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Yeah.
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And I'll also do a backup on my deck as well.
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Excellent thinking.
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So I'm recording on my end now.
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Cool, cool, cool.
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I'm willing to go with whatever your whim is, I'll just go with that.
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Yeah.
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I'm well versed in editing something to death,
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it's what we do with our show, man.
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It's, it's chopped a hell.
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I do those zoom outs of the edit, and it's just like a million chops in there,
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and it's, it is quite a lot of just like cutting out like,
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like, ums, butts, and like, to make yourself sound better.
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Yeah.
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Whenever I'm like, um, oh, what's, who's that guy?
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Oh, this guy, then I was, you just edit at that bit,
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yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And you sound incredibly smart.
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Yeah.
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In actuality, I am notorious for not being able to pronounce words,
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and I think I've said this in the podcast before.
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David always announces it.
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The thing is, like, David is always there to hear me really try and
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pronounce anything that's on there.
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And this states back to when we did the weird alphabet,
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because I was doing a bunch of research for that as well,
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and I just could not pronounce anything.
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There was like one really embarrassing moment,
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and this one actually stayed in the episode.
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We did a live show in Denver, Colorado.
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And for the live shows, I don't edit anything,
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just because you have the sound of the crowd,
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you have the energy of the crowd, and I just don't want to lose that, per se.
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But I had to pronounce, it was a Russian composer.
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I think it was a Prokhoviev.
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I think it was his last name.
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He did Peter and the Wolf.
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And I just, for the life of me, I looked up hard to pronounce it ahead of time.
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And once I got onto the stage, I just froze, and I just, like,
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I'm in front of a bunch of people, and eventually, like,
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someone actually yelled out from the crowd how to pronounce it,
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and then, to go on from there.
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So that's the only time that it's really been prevalent in the record.
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But outside of that, David will notice, he's like,
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"Yeah, I hear the episode later on, because we record so far in advance,
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that he listens to it."
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And he's like, "Oh, right.
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We did actually talk about it, because he'll forget."
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Had both of Ashay and the edit.
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I'm fine with that.
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There's some things that'll keep in.
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Like, if it is actually funny, it's worth the laugh to keep in the mistakes.
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Comedy trumps all.
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If you fuck up, but it's funny, it stays it.
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Oh, yeah.
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If you fuck up, it is embarrassing, I get it.
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My audience doesn't need to know that.
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So I want to know, like, how did your podcast get started?
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How did you meet Eden?
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How did the idea come about?
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And then, like, was it you that said,
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we're actually going to go through and actually make this?
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Yeah, I used to work with Eden.
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Well, actually, finally, I didn't work with Eden.
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We worked for the same company in, like, separate arms of the same business,
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which is in cinema.
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I worked that for 10 years.
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So there's like a 10-year period where I saw everything no matter what,
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just because it was free.
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Yeah.
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So Eden and I used to always talk about what was out.
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And naturally talking about films, I feel like you always arrive at these
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what if cancel movie projects?
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And we would constantly bring them up to each other as this, like, thing of fascination.
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And we searched for so long for something that talked about them in depth.
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We could find things that went over the basic ideas of a project
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or, oh, do you know this person was cast or whatever?
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And every time we would share them with one another, we'd be like,
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oh, but why would I hear what it was like?
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I want to know what it was like.
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And then after like three years of being an idiot, we were like, oh, why don't we do that?
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Like, that's, you know, that thing is like, if there's something in the world you want to see and it doesn't exist.
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Then you should make it.
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It took us way too long to realize that.
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I honestly think it was three years of us collecting movies,
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being like, this one would be great if they did a podcast on this.
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I don't know who they were.
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This would be a great, if they did.
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And we had like a list of them that were like, these should be the
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episodes that they do.
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So I have another podcast called Reddit on Reddit.
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That one comes out every single week.
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It's been gone for ages.
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It's like almost 300 episodes of that.
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So I had a pretty good setup of how to podcast and how to make things sound good and whatnot.
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And then eventually one day just drunken at a party.
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I said to Eden, I was like, oh, I just realized that this is the show that we make.
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Yeah.
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We have wanted to do something for ages.
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I've got a podcast setup.
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We've got a list of ideas here.
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We've never put them all together.
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That is the basic origin of cats and we've heard about.
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Nice.
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So on my end, I think we have the same common denominator where David and I,
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we worked at the same place.
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In fact, we've worked at three of the same places before.
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It started off.
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We're not working there anymore.
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So I can actually say it.
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We were working at the Madame Tso's wax museum here in Hollywood.
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Surrounded by celebs all day.
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Like we were in the middle of Hollywood.
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The only day, weirdly enough.
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And I think we can reveal this is we are recording this on Oscar Sunday.
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The only day that Madame Tso's is close is the Oscars is because there's no business that can run while the Oscars are happening because no one wants to see a wax figure when the actual thing is like right across the street.
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We were working together and we both came from a film background.
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So both of us went to school for film.
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He is from Alaska, but I found out that he actually went to the film school that was in my hometown.
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I didn't go to the same film school as he did.
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I went to Western Michigan University who is famous for Terry Cruz and kicking out Tim Allen for selling drugs.
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So I went there for film.
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I went there, well, I get an English degree by accident.
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That's a whole nother story.
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And for the longest time, I was just wanting to just getting into filmmaking.
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Like ultimately, that was my major there.
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But David and I were both working at the same job and we were in the same area.
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And he would always bring up the subject of not even just like movies that didn't get made, but it was like two specific movies that he brought up.
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It was the Beatles Lord of the Rings.
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Of course.
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That was going to be directed by Stanley Kubrick.
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And he was a fan of the movie.
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And then the other one he brought up was the James Cameron Spider-Man.
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But in this case, he didn't know the timeline of the casting of it.
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So we thought that Michael Jackson was going to play Spider-Man.
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Well, doing the podcast, we were able to debunk so many of those rumors.
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I think that's off the phone, isn't it?
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It is.
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Working out what has been internet bullshit.
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And what actually has some kind of factors, I've heard that Michael Jackson thing as well.
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And I've heard his name attached to so many roles with so little evidence for any of them other than he probably said it in public one day.
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Like, I want to play Spider-Man.
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I think part of it was the fact that he was trying to buy so many rights.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've tried to buy the rights.
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Even like the Beatles where he, what's the story that he told Paul McCartney that they were at a party and he's like, you know, tomorrow, the rights for your music is going to expire.
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And Paul McCartney's like, oh, we should actually like get on that.
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And the very next day he went to, I think it was like Apple records and he's like, all right, cool.
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We're going to renew our rights and they're like, some dude already picked it up and he's like, oh, it was like, Michael Jackson took it.
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And he's like, oh, but yeah, back to the way we started.
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So David, he did a podcast prior to called Thank You Internet.
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And I thought it was a brilliant idea because they were actually taking on internet content creators.
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But they were doing it in the time of age where YouTube was very young to the point where people didn't even know if YouTube was like a viable option for uploading your videos.
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It was still in that questionable age.
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But they were getting like these really big content creators of like people from when we were growing up.
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So like Charlie the unicorn.
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They got that guy in a bunch of other guys that they're interviewing.
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And it blew my mind because I was starting to listen to podcasts and they were just making their own.
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And I thought to myself like, you can just do that.
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It's like if you watch YouTube videos and you're just like, oh, you know, that's for other people to create.
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That's what they do.
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And if someone tells you, you know, you can just like use your phone, shoot a video, edit it a little, put it up there.
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And you can be just like them.
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And it's like, it just blew my mind that you could actually put it out there.
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They were looking for a new podcast to put together.
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And we were trying to do a music podcast.
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So we were trying to look for a band that we wanted to cover but had like a vast amount of songs.
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So we wouldn't run out right away.
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And we figured that we are all fans of Weird Out, Yankevic.
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And we put together the Weird Out a bit.
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And it's like 250 some episodes from the bat.
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I knew that I wanted to add something to the show where I wanted the fans to get more out of it.
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I wanted them to learn something from it because I was noticing with Weird Out fans is that they know the song from Weird Out.
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And oftentimes they don't know that it actually came from a real song.
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They understand it's a parody but they don't actually realize what it's parody.
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Which is I think my experience of that is through Weird Out a little bit like I are in running with Tizzis.
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And I only knew like two of the songs that he was parodying on that.
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But the other one is The Simpsons.
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So much later in my life have I watched a classic from and gone, oh this is Cape Fear.
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I've actually been going through the Simpsons as well.
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And like I feel the same way where, or if something has been parodied so many times like Star Wars,
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I, this is kind of embarrassing being a big film nerd.
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I didn't watch Star Wars until college.
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But the thing is is like I felt like I knew Star Wars when I was a kid.
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Yeah, it's in the zeit guys.
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You know I am your father and you know the basics.
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I feel that about Harry Potter.
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I have watched every single Harry Potter movie and I remember nothing from any of the...
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I can't tell you what happens in which film.
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But I know Harry Potter just through Osmosis.
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Yes.
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Like I know all the touchstones.
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I know the Hogwarts Express.
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I know the castle.
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Like I couldn't tell you the plot of any of them.
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I couldn't tell you beyond the main three characters what any of them are really called.
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But I know.
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Like I feel confident enough that I know Harry Potter.
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Yeah exactly.
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So you understand.
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So that's what I was dealing with with like weird alphans was that they knew that it was a parody of something
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but like it's like if you heard like a surgeon and you had no idea that Madonna came out with a song called like a virgin
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and you're just like, I had no idea.
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So I wanted to provide like the original information for that and throughout the whole show it was just me providing my voice.
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And then it got to the point where I was starting to edit every episode and then I was noticing that a quality like
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I don't know if you dealt with those blue snowball microphones before.
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Yeah for like two weeks I reckon.
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It was until I was like this is not I got to do it.
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They are great for the moment like if you have no money and you just need a better quality audio
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they're fine they're great.
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But if you need to upgrade like once you can definitely do it.
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So I ended up buying new equipment for the show and I ended up being like the engineer for it.
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And I was editing it as well with me having that film background.
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I knew how to edit and what's weird is I think I've said this on the show.
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I edit the podcast through premiere through a video editor.
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Oh yeah.
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That blows my mind.
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It makes sense.
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It's not that like I've used premiere I used premiere a lot but as an audio editor there must be so many compromises you need to make in that.
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Yes and no.
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It's not even compromises it's just honestly things are in different places and I don't like that.
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It's got all the same tools as every other editor.
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But they're in a different place and that scares me.
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I know where the hot keys are.
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Yeah.
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And because I knew that prior to like it just became so much easier for me to go through.
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I was one of those guys in film school that had one of those layer of a keyboard covers with all the other podcasts.
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Oh yeah.
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I was thinking I was like, "Hot shit."
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Yeah.
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They're pretty useless because you memorize them in a bad awake.
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Yeah.
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And then you don't need it anymore.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, premiere is just, it makes sense to me.
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I know of one other person who uses premiere to edit podcasts and I think he has the same door similar background as well.
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It works for me.
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But the Weird Out podcast was going to end in 2020 and our plan was to actually do another live show in Denver.
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And that was planned for April.
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Mm-hmm.
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And then something weird happened in the world.
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Yeah.
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It's very unfortunate at the time.
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But we ended up ending the show anyways.
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We tried to delay it as much as we could but we ended up just ending the show.
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And we had so many other ideas in the Zeitgeist because like David has mentioned before, we should do a podcast about this.
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He's been talking about doing a Veggie Tales podcast right now.
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Before we did, how did this not get made?
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I tried to put together a pilot episode for a podcast called Muppets Make the Movies.
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The first discussion would be like, you take one movie.
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Who is going to be replaced with what Muppet?
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Yeah.
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Who stays human in the movie?
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And then we take a scene and then one of our friends, Michael Hunter, he does the sister podcast come on, Fuhu Kupats.
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He is a brilliant voice actor.
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And he can pull off countless voices.
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So I knew that he would be able to do like these Muppet voices and we would just do a scene as those Muppets.
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That was the hope, that was the plan and it just kind of fell through.
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That is a really interesting idea for a podcast.
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What movies had you roughly had an idea to try and monetize?
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So the first one that we did was Jurassic Park.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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And the one person who would stay human actually it would be one or two.
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We said Jeff Goldblum has to say human.
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The other person that would have been human was Richard Attenborough.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Doug and Muppet dinosaurs as well.
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I mean they are essentially Muppets in a way, but...
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Yes, they are.
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I think the dinosaurs would say the same, but we did say that either the spitter dinosaur or the velociraptor would be replaced by animal.
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Yeah.
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That's good.
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Can I quickly tell you the first thing that came to my mind when you said that?
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Sure.
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I pitch for that podcast is the matrix because it is a simple split.
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I think everything in the matrix is real people and everything in the real world is Muppets.
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That is so good.
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That would be so good.
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I don't know why that is so instantly came to my mind when you pitch it.
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It must have been sitting somewhere in the back of my mind for years anyway.
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This idea.
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But it just instantly came to me when you pitch that idea.
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I was like, oh, you do the matrix in the real world is Muppets.
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Yeah, see I see.
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That is brilliant.
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But yeah, David and I were talked about like movies that didn't get made but the thing is that we were always just talking about these films that we like hear about.
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The documentary was the death Superman lives.
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What happens?
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The late John SNAP.
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And I was so fortunate that during one of the LA Comic-Cons he was screening the movie there.
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He had a booth there and we actually got an interview with John.
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It blew my mind that this movie that never got made had so much power behind it.
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It had so much and I know you guys did an episode on Superman Lives.
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It feels different for some reason.
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Yeah, the myth around that movie is pretty huge.
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Yeah.
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Which in a way it makes me feel kind of bad, a bad out show because I feel like what we do is drag people kicking and screaming back into reality.
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Especially around I think Justice League Mortal was our original pilot episode that we covered.
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Which is another one that has huge myth behind it.
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Yeah.
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People always claim how could it possibly go wrong?
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Look at the people we're involved.
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And we take this approach of, at a realism, where it comes to like how things might have actually turned out.
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Well, I feel like sometimes for better or worse, we deconstruct some of the myths and point out some of the flaws.
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And sometimes people don't know what I hear that as well.
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Superman lives as less of an example because I think the script's okay.
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It's not perfect, but it's okay.
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Both versions.
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I think it gets progressively worse per version.
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But Justice League Mortal, unless there was some day one rewrite on that thing that no one's ever seen.
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That movie was never going to be good.
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No, it wasn't going to be good.
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Even like James Cameron, Spider-Man, felt kind of the same way.
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Oh yeah.
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Oh god, yeah.
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What a mess.
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But I feel like sometimes we are, I don't want us to come up cynical, but sometimes I feel that we do.
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Being like, oh, you know that thing you thought was going to be good?
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No.
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No, no, no.
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I mean, in a way, we're kind of myth-busting.
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Yeah, I guess so.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I hadn't thought about it that way, but yeah, we're doing it for signs.
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Yes.
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Something that I feel myself doing, I think you're feeling this too, is like you start to sympathize more with the producers.
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Yeah.
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In a way, where like the people who need to dish out the money, who need to make the decisions and you have a director, like I'm researching Dune right now, and knowing what Hordorovsky went through and like the crazy decisions to be a producer, to be like, we can't do that.
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We really can't.
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Yeah, kind of an unpopular opinion, but I do think that an unchained director more often does bad than good.
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Yeah.
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There are obviously exceptions to the rule, but they're pretty few and far between where I solemnly believe that restrictions make a filmmaker better.
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Yeah.
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There are points where it's too much, obviously.
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People met all too much, but like look at Star Wars.
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You look at those original pictures for Star Wars that were unhinged.
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You know, a Han Solo was green skin lizard, man, and Luke Skywalker was a 60-year-old hermit and whatever.
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And it wasn't until someone's like, this is unrelated, that he stripped it back and was told no too many times that he refined into something good.
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Yeah.
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I hate when we're kind of glorifying the directors who are extremely precise with their films.
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Like, we look at someone like Stanley Kubrick, who took like, was like over a hundred takes of Jack Nicholson and his family just like walking out of the car, not even saying anything, just like walking out of the car.
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Or like, for what? Like, what is really the purpose of this? And we somehow like glorify this precision, this madness of a director, and like we attribute that to being a genius, not them like being out of control.
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Here's a hot take people might not like.
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I recently read the book Blood, Sweat & Chrome, which is all about the making of Mad Max Fury Road.
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Oh, nice.
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And there's been reports on that film for a long time about Tom Hardy being a real dick and being real hard to work with.
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Yeah.
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I think the book, they do painting that way, but I felt more sympathy for him because there wasn't a script for that movie.
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There was a bunch of storyboards for that movie.
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And George Miller shot it in a way that he shot it for his own edit in his head.
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So they wouldn't shoot scenes.
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They would shoot shots.
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Okay.
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So he'd say, I just need your hand grabbing a steering wheel and turning it.
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And that's all we need.
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And it got to the point where he's like, can we please play out the scene?
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I'm having a really hard time getting into this because you're not shooting a whole scene. You're shooting lines of dialogue at a time.
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And everyone's like, oh, but no one can understand this vision that George had.
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He's this genius who had it all in his head.
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To me, I'm like, yeah, but he's not communicating that.
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No.
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Clearly this guy is really struggling because you were not communicating what you're doing and what you want.
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And I think from the book, George Miller came off as someone that doesn't communicate very well.
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Huh.
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More than a genius.
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Yeah.
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And obviously he got it because the film works.
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But when you hear about these frustrations, the actors had, I'm like, I completely get it.
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Imagine doing single lines at a time trying to get into any kind of emotional state.
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Yeah.
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It'd be really hard.
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And you have no idea where the end game is.
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Every day on set is just like, well, we're going to travel like a hundred feet today and like figure out what's going to happen within there.
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So we're going to get the guy who's shooting flames out of his guitar and we're just kind of going to do that and have some fun with it.
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That's the other thing as well, right? Like you look at his more recent track record before that he had made happy feet too.
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Yep.
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Babe Pig in the city like both films that underperformed you look at the window at a guy playing a flame in guitar and people dressed as like the spray painting silver on their face.
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And you'll probably be going, what am I doing?
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Yeah.
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I don't know what's going on.
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So I actually sympathized way more with Tom Hardy after reading that book.
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Even though it was trying to get you to paint the picture that George Miller was just too far ahead of everyone.
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I think it sounded to me like George Miller wasn't communicating everything right now.
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Yeah, that definitely seems like it.
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And that's sometimes the sense I get with these cancel movie projects as well is these people have an idea but they're not communicating them right?
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Yeah.
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I think David and I have figured out like when you are pitching a movie there are some things that like don't get communicated very well when you're pitching it to like the Darren Aeronofsky Batman movie.
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Is kind of what we recently got with the Batman.
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Yeah, we just finished an episode about that.
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Oh, no.
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And in the can.
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Yes.
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I love that idea of Batman Year 1 or like the young Batman who's still figuring stuff out.
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I think that's why I love Batman begin so much is because you have a Batman who's constantly making mistakes in having to learn from it.
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Yeah.
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And that's such a hard thing to pitch in which is why I'm so shocked that the Batman got as far as it did because with Aaron Aeronofsky trying to pitch this idea he's like,
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okay, we're going to do Batman and I'm sure Warner Brothers is like, I mean that's a big money maker.
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They're like, yes, we're going to have like another badass superhero on screen.
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They're like, oh, but he's going to wear a hockey mask and they're like, what?
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I, what?
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Nothing makes sense.
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Did you write the whole script?
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I read excerpts of the script.
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There's a moment in the script where Batman's been at crime fighting and got beaten up.
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Through the script, he can't sleep and then after he beats up a bunch of criminals, he finds he can sleep again.
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Like it's a weird psychological thing because Frank Miller is like a sociopath like that.
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It explains it like he's up and he's creating his costume and he's been beaten up and he smiles and his whole front row of teeth are missing.
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And it's like, what studio is ever going to let like a handsome Bruce Wayne type be beaten up to shit with no front teeth?
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Yeah, yeah, they're never going to do it.
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Yeah, like you have the lower half of the face.
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Like that needs to be perfect.
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Yeah, yeah.
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If anything, Batman's one of the only superheroes it needs great teeth.
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Yes.
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He needs great teeth.
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He needs to have like a sharp jaw line.
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You look at Robert Pattinson and I feel like it's almost unreal.
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Like I was looking at his jaw line like under the cowl and it just it was just so sharp.
471
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Like that thing could cut through cheese.
472
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,000
Yeah, it is just that sharp.
473
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Yeah, he's got one of the best jaw lines in the bits.
474
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,000
Yeah, so like that's what you need to make it.
475
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,000
And I look at even someone like George Clooney playing Batman.
476
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,000
Like he has a great like he has the perfect symmetrical face as is.
477
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,000
You put a cowl on that and like it's still going to look great.
478
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:14,000
Val Kilmer just had the lips Michael Keaton.
479
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,000
Yeah, one of the I say wicket.
480
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,000
It's not a weight jaw line but a more pointed jaw line was Christian Bale to the point where
481
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,000
I feel like his cows accentuated his longer face because he didn't have the square.
482
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,000
He has like a quite a long jaw line.
483
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,000
Yeah, yeah.
484
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He's like the long face Batman is the ever thing about him is longer.
485
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,000
That's the feature that they're looking for is like so yeah, if you took that out you took out your teeth.
486
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:43,000
There's different lines throughout that script about Bruce Wayne looking like absolute shit.
487
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And I just feel like they never would have done it.
488
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:52,000
I think he spray paints a hockey like a mouthguard and he puts it in his mouth as like as he's front tape in the script.
489
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:57,000
He's got a stitch line running through his skull for part of it because he's got his head cracked open.
490
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,000
Like there's parts of it where it's like they never would have done this.
491
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,000
They can't have a handsome Bruce Wayne type looking like absolute death.
492
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:12,000
Looking like Ryan Gosling in only God forgives it's a winding riff in film where it was almost unmarkable because he gets the absolute fuck beat out of him.
493
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,000
He's got this big ass-y eye that's swollen shot and this.
494
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:21,000
So I'm curious with your film what's your process of designing an episode?
495
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:27,000
Because I feel like we've got a fucked process so I'm always interested to know what other people's process is.
496
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:35,000
So we had our email episode in which we have so many suggestions and you're probably feeling it too because you guys put out that form.
497
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000
And it's just like this laundry list of things.
498
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And what I do is I try to find what is an interesting angle with it.
499
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:51,000
And I think you asked us in our email episode if there was a movie that didn't have enough information to it.
500
00:25:51,000 --> 00:26:03,000
And I'm kind of okay if there isn't too much information to it as long as there was like some effort put forth in actually making the movie if money was spent actually in pre-production.
501
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:11,000
Then I know that there's something behind it rather than clickbait article from ScreenRab that said like Tim Burton wants to make another nightmare before Christmas.
502
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,000
ScreenRab act as a mirage in the desert.
503
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000
Yes, that would be doing research.
504
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:23,000
And they said, "Oh my god, there must be some information about it." And then you click and you realize that they've got less information than you have.
505
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000
You clicked on that article.
506
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,000
And it's just so incredibly frustrating.
507
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:34,000
I think this stems back from when I was doing the Weird Alphabet where I was like, "I love going through who the band was."
508
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:43,000
And then the material that came out of it, which is a song, for me, I will go down a deep researching hole of like where something came from.
509
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:52,000
And then I look for like the backstory that helps kind of connect everything together so that you better understand the decisions that are made throughout the production.
510
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,000
And then eventually you're like, "What falls through?"
511
00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:01,000
So like when we did Wonder Woman, that was the most extensive research that I went through.
512
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,000
It was about from September to December.
513
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:20,000
I was really, really excited about the story of the film.
514
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,000
And then I was like, "Oh, I'm so excited about it."
515
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000
And then I was like, "Oh, I'm so excited about it."
516
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,000
And then I was like, "Oh, I'm so excited about it."
517
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,000
And then I was like, "Oh, I'm so excited about it."
518
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,000
And then I was like, "Oh, I'm so excited about it."
519
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,000
And then I was like, "Oh, I'm so excited about it."
520
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,000
And then I was like, "Oh, I'm so excited about it."
521
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,000
And then I was like, "Oh, I'm so excited about it."
522
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,000
And then I was like, "Oh, I'm so excited about it."
523
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,000
And then I was like, "Oh, I'm so excited about it."
524
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000
And then I was like, "Oh, I'm so excited about it."
525
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000
And then I was like, "Oh, I'm so excited about it."
526
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:04,000
Wikipedia is where I'll start, or sometimes I'll look at like video essays that are out there about this movie.
527
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,000
And anytime like a question arises of like,
528
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:13,000
"I need to know more information about like this specific area rather than saying like, matter of fact."
529
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000
And that helps me double check my sources as well.
530
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000
So if it's coming from multiple angles.
531
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,000
So like with Dune right now, I'm going through, actually have it right in front of me.
532
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000
And I think you have the same book.
533
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,000
Yeah.
534
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,000
The greatest sci-fi movies.
535
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,000
David Heath.
536
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,000
I'm going through that because he did a whole thing on Dune.
537
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,000
I am going through the Haderowski documentary about his take on Dune.
538
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,000
And he's kind of an unreliable narrator as well.
539
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,000
There's a few other video essays that are out there as well that I'm going through.
540
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,000
And then on top of that, going through the Wikipedia article.
541
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,000
So I have like four or five different sources that I will like filter through
542
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:56,000
and try to find a through line to get to the actual production, the downfall, the effects of it.
543
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,000
And then I like to lead up where if it's a movie that we eventually see.
544
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,000
So like with Superman Lives eventually came to Superman Returns.
545
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000
What is the through line?
546
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,000
And why is it that Kevin Spacey is always a part of this?
547
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,000
No matter what.
548
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:16,000
That's something that we're always fascinated with as well as we always call it film bleed.
549
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:22,000
Something that started in one project is somehow craped its way through into all the different iterations.
550
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,000
I think one that we talked about in just like model is the next snap.
551
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:34,000
Like such a specific thing that has survived in like drafts and drafts of DC movies until finally making its way into Madness Deal.
552
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,000
Why that? It must be a producers note.
553
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,000
Yeah, it has to be.
554
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,000
That someone's like, I need a next snap in this movie.
555
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:47,000
For like five different screenwriters to individually add a next snap in the climax of their movie is too much a coincidence.
556
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000
Yeah, like with John Peters being the worst.
557
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:58,000
Yeah, I love the through line of John Peters who is just obsessed with spiders wanted to put in Superman Lives couldn't get it.
558
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:03,000
Next movie he does Wild Wild West sure enough third act of the movie.
559
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Yeah, big giant robot spider going after Will Smith.
560
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,000
And just like this doesn't make any sense for like the time that it's in but somehow he got it.
561
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,000
So sure.
562
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,000
Yeah, you can love that stop in this of being like I'm getting a giant spider come hell high water.
563
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,000
There will be a giant spider in a John Peters movie.
564
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:27,000
I love this story. I don't know if I include this in there, but there was Kevin Smith he talked about it in a interview where he went to talk to John Peters.
565
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,000
Oh, it was in the documentary and then he goes back to the producers over at Warner Brothers.
566
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,000
And he's like cool. I think I have a story put together and then the producers actually bring up to him.
567
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,000
He's like, did John Peters talk about this?
568
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:46,000
Yeah, I've worked in my time with enough not to jump a level but enough like very rich.
569
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,000
See oh business types did I like that?
570
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,000
I worked with this guy who owned a film production in cinema company.
571
00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:00,000
And when he just got an idea everyone had to go with it no matter how crazy it was.
572
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000
And I remember it was around when the movie it was releasing.
573
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:09,000
He personally drew a sketch that he wanted as a newspaper ad because it was obsessed with newspaper ads.
574
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
He's like old guy right?
575
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,000
He's like newspapers. That's how people know what's out of the movies.
576
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:21,000
So he hand drew a poster of a clown with a big balloon and then he wrote his own reviews in the balloon.
577
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:28,000
And then he brought it into our office like where shit kick is making one hundredth of what he makes a year.
578
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,000
And he brings it to us he's like I want this into morrow's newspaper and then he just walked out.
579
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,000
And then that goes through about ten people it goes to a graphic designer.
580
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:42,000
Then they have to get it into the paper this in being pretty one two hours.
581
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,000
And they have to rush it in and get final approval so the other whatever.
582
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,000
Just because you had this whim of an idea that some review should be in an it balloon.
583
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,000
You know it's like and John Payton is that like on steroids.
584
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,000
Yes.
585
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,000
It's like I want a giant spider go.
586
00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:01,000
And then how many people have to design the concept rewrote the script act in the scene do the visual effects for it.
587
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000
And then he watched the guy's oh yeah that's good.
588
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000
I dealt with one producer before.
589
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:12,000
So like before this I was a PA on a film this is back when I lived in Michigan.
590
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:19,000
And the production manager had just like we had given her power and she should not have gotten that.
591
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,000
There was one day where she figured out that she was going too far.
592
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,000
It was a scene where the main character is walking out onto a frozen lake.
593
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:32,000
And it's thin ice and he breaks through the ice and goes underwater.
594
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:40,000
Unfortunately that winter it was a very warm winter and actually shooting on real thin ice is actually dangerous.
595
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,000
So we couldn't do it and the lake was like nearly melted.
596
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:53,000
And just in all seriousness she turned to the other producers the director and just said why don't we just freeze the lake.
597
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And everyone looked at each other and like it was weird because she was serious.
598
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But then they said laughing it off like it was a joke and then she realized what she said and then realize oh what I just did was absurd.
599
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,000
And I'm not going to mention any more advice to this.
600
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:19,000
And you hear about these stories of like weems my partner she worked on the great Gatsby because I was being filmed here in Australia.
601
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Oh nice.
602
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:27,000
And she said she worked on like a production office but she heard the story of they had this huge atrium style entrance to a house with all these ornate tops.
603
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000
And all this kind of stuff.
604
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:35,000
Baz Lerman turned up one day was like I don't like this patent can you redo it for shooting tomorrow.
605
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:41,000
And then he walked off and then of course ten people have to re-tie an entire thing.
606
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,000
No direction of what he wanted the new thing to be he just didn't like this one.
607
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:52,000
It's like how one small thing can just cause so much money that we spent some people's time doing use.
608
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:58,000
Because he's like I'm not into it. Maybe just legally I'll say allegedly that happened.
609
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:06,000
I forget who the director was but he was filming this party and it was like this upper class party and they were serving caviar.
610
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:12,000
The props person just found the cheapest caviar that's out there because you know like if it's out of the tin it doesn't matter.
611
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:22,000
But the director was just so insistent that people who are rich would know that that is cheap caviar.
612
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:37,000
He shut down production for the rest of the day had a PA go out by $10,000 caviar, bring it back on set and then they shot the next day just because I mean it was in the foreground for like maybe half a second.
613
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:43,000
I don't know what power trip he was on in order for him to demand that but like no one could convince him otherwise.
614
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,000
It's weird the small fixations I'm always fascinated with it.
615
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,000
What gets stuck in people's mind that they can't get past and needs to be in the film.
616
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:56,000
Yeah. Because for better or worse actually normally for worse it doesn't matter.
617
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,000
No, it doesn't.
618
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,000
At the end of the day.
619
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Yeah.
620
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:12,000
So something I wanted to ask you about is actually your process with making your episodes because something that we've mentioned on our show actually discovered you guys when I was doing my glad eat or episode.
621
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,000
That was the first time I heard of you guys because I was trying to this is just me being lazy.
622
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:27,000
I didn't want to read through the script and I was like I'm sure someone somewhere out there has done like a table read of it and then I heard your show and I was like holy shit like you actually put in the work you put in the production.
623
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:38,000
I like immediately was a fan to like hear an audio producer version of a movie that I'd never seen before so what is it that you do to actually like bring these scripts to life.
624
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:47,000
So we have to produce sound show twice in a way to get an episode if there's people that are listening to this that have heard our show before in your feed.
625
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000
This is why our series takes so long.
626
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:54,000
Even I split projects that we want to cover so we take three each generally.
627
00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:01,000
We do it one at a time production wise so for instance I just finished doing at the mountains of badness the game with our tour of movie.
628
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,000
Yes.
629
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:11,000
The process is to read the script as you're reading the script you're kind of looking for scenes that will make good scene recreations and I think we've got better at that as it goes through.
630
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:21,000
If it's too action heavy and you have to read too much description and whatnot it kind of bugs it down so you want it's normally ends up being like explanatory scenes and whatnot.
631
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:34,000
You kind of pick those scenes roughly ten ish you pick the mountain you get about it script you essentially say these are the ones I'm going to recreate you then do a full breakdown of the script which takes a little bit of time.
632
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:41,000
Yeah occasionally like you if someone's already done it I will grab it and expand it and credit them because that's a lot easier.
633
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Yeah.
634
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:54,000
For James Cameron Spider-Man he had done it he's just a known for you so that was handy. There's been a couple that have had plot outlines already written that I grab and I expand and then I'll give them a credit to make sure that.
635
00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:04,000
But mountains of man is didn't have one so first I read the script to get a sense of it and then I'd read a read I'd read a scene turn I'd sum up in about a sentence and I'd read a scene and I'd sum up in about a sentence.
636
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:19,000
By the time you do that for all 50 odd scenes you've got about a thousand fifteen hundred word outline which is roughly what we go with that's one part and then you have to read the script scenes you're going to recreate as you do you marked every character that appears in them.
637
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:29,000
So you go see my scene this has this many characters until you've got a list of the scenes you're going to create in the characters that are in them and then next to that just a list of characters in general you need to cast.
638
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:36,000
And then you cast it for at the mountains of madness that had Tom Cruise cast as the lead in that movie.
639
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:48,000
So we had to find a Tom Cruise voice luckily we did we found a guy called Evan Ferante he is better known as not Tom Cruise on the internet you may have seen him in corridor digital videos he was always the double of Tom Cruise.
640
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,000
Yeah he did the the fake video.
641
00:37:51,000 --> 00:38:05,000
And then he reached out to him and we had him come in and voice Tom Cruise for us in this episode. Then luckily we are explored efforts family a lot and we fill out the rest of the cast with people that are willing to do us a favor and let their voices and stuff.
642
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:11,000
That's got easier as the seasons have gone on the more that we have the less we have to do any voices.
643
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:24,000
It's come a long way since I voiced Maximus and gladiator to I'm not in at the man's amanders we do all that and then you need to create all those scenes so one by one I get all the voice cast files in.
644
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:30,000
I do a couple of passes so first I just do purely dialogue. I'll just put all the dialogue together make it work.
645
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And then I do what's called at most pass where depending on the location or find a an at most track that is that location I'll add that in.
646
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:51,000
And then I'll go through and listen for any little sound effect beats and I'll add the sound effects in the last thing I do is I add the score to it all which we buy wrote free packs of music to use in so it's all licensed music that were purchased.
647
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:58,000
If anyone wants to hot tip on that try you digital is where we get all of our music from try in digital try you try you try you.
648
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:13,000
To you are you in each right you try you I'll have to check that out they have some really really great packs some that have been really handy are their blockbuster packs which is music based off popular movies so there was a pack that was based off the music for the last Jedi so we used a lot of that.
649
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:23,000
Star Wars episode there's a pack based off John Wick which is actually what we used in a green arrow episode it's like similar fire okay so if anyone wonders how we do that we buy it.
650
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:30,000
We don't we don't do it that is interesting I might have to start doing that because I have been going to Kevin MacLeod.
651
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Oh yeah Kevin MacLeod is like prolific he has thousands of songs that are out there so I go through his website I always tell people like it is the musician that everyone has heard but no one knows about it.
652
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:51,000
Yeah yeah definitely he's the Doug Jones of music yeah of stock music yeah if you ever look at a YouTube video that has some kind of ambient music look down the
653
00:39:51,000 --> 00:40:01,000
bottom of their description and I guarantee they have Kevin MacLeod credit in the YouTube video so that's one of my little secrets is trying you digital music the other one is in
654
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:09,000
Vato is a stock extra stock photos and stuff like that but they have a subscriptions couple box a month but that's where we get all our
655
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effects for is they've got this really robust sound effects library so we literally just subscribe for the couple months we're making it then unsubscribe we're
656
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making it unsubscribe so we create all of the scenes in that process then once they're done this is when part two of the process begins in which we jump
657
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in the studio I'll have my notes and my scenes ready loaded up onto a soundboard iPad app and then I read through it with Eden he reacts how he's
658
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going to react we create an episode and then that is also given the same process of each of the scene so I cut the episode together I cut out the arms and the hours and make it flow nicely and then I do a pass which is for
659
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Santa effects and then or pass which is for music and then a pass which is for atmosphere and then the last pass I do is called additional voices and it's
660
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every now and then you hear a voice drop in to replace a line yeah in the recording I've said the line but as we're listening back we're like oh we can replace that
661
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that's a line of dialogue we can replace we go back to the actors we get them to redo the line that's the process of making an episode wow it is lays to it yeah I think it makes for a robust experience no like I love that process and it's very
662
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similar although not as extensive on my end because like I go through all the notes and like that seems to be the bulk of the majority of it because like it's
663
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mostly if not all information that I'm spewing out there and I will throw it to David I'm in charge of like most of the episodes and then he'll come at me with like a few as well I always send
664
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star wars off to David because like that's his forte like he yeah he is my star wars friend and we all have that guy is like who's your
665
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star wars friend who like knows like even stuff that's in the books in the novels yeah so he's that for me so he'll come to me with star wars anything so we'll do a pass on that and a lot of it is like kind of our hot
666
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takes on the information that we're getting and I know David has like a vast I mean any film nerd has has like a vast amount of like already known information that's out there
667
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and what's nice for him is that from him coming from a film school he also learned film history and something that you're probably seeing this as well is you kind of learn this alternative
668
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history that is shaping Hollywood and you kind of understand how the system works better almost by seeing like what fails but then what resurrects out of that like you
669
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mentioned before the next nap that stayed in all these DC films and you're just like well why did that stay in there and all of a sudden we got that it's a different route through film history and it's just really
670
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interesting to get like that feedback while I'm giving this information every once in a while if there is a script I will read through a summary of it so what I'll do is I will actually read through and then just write down what the
671
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synopsis is once I read through there you mentioned the pass through is that's what I'll do is like I'll edit everything down I'll see where sound effects need to go in there and for the sound effects I actually go through YouTube every once
672
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:14,000
in a while I'll make my own sound effects because I did a web series a long time ago and there were moments where like I needed to make my own sound effects where like I just look
673
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crazy just walking around my part and I'm just like recording my footsteps that's what I would just put into the episode I have an embarrassing layer in
674
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the additional voices layer which is me making any sound effect that we forgot to get or anything like that a lot of it is like punch noises
675
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so if someone gets punched I'm like oh we didn't get the actor to do it I literally sit there for a lie and go I look insane yes when I do yeah I just sit in front of a computer with
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headphones on so no one can hear what I'm doing and then every five minutes go I haven't gone that far but I will record or re record kind of like an
677
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80 R style where I realize like I miss pronounce something and I will actually go in and try to like match that energy which no matter what I can't
678
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yeah we do that a shocking amount of yeah there's more of that than you think in our show as well of me coming back in light of
679
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me like yeah trying to have that real op energy what's your biggest project to think how many layers deep was it it's whenever we bring on like multiple
680
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guests on there so like night skies was a big one because we're getting like four different sources on there and then on top of that I'm reading the story
681
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out loud so then I have a layer of sound effects which can take up like two or three tracks on the very bottom is like the score for it so that is one
682
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three four six seven eight about nine yeah nine tennis layers right there just for night skies a lot of that is being contributed from like the guests that I have on yeah yeah
683
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we're whenever you have guests it always duplicates everything especially if I'm a real stickler for a remote recording is getting rid of any echo occasionally get this slide
684
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echo coming through so you've got a chop and chop and chop and some of the fine splitting layers even in that helps yeah 10 that's
685
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pretty decent that would make you computer chair yeah yeah what's your cleaning up method I know we chop out the the unsubuts and all that stuff but so never
686
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underestimate how lazy we are we are actually lazy then you might think so I do everything inside audition people that are real
687
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audio files are going to hate this but there's a preset called radio broadcast oh and it does all the work for you it cleans up a lot of
688
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buzzers it boost your voice it gives you a little bit of timidity voice I just slap that on and then I slightly adjust the input level in case it starts to because it does boost
689
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everything it say if it starts to peak I'll just put the input level down just a little bit until it's not quite peak yeah that's all I do is we just
690
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slap that on like we've got it okay set up we run through a roadcaster we have these nice road minds so that also does a bit of heavy lifting yeah
691
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but we literally slap on the radio announced a preset on audition and it sounds as it comes out it's deceptively simple all right for what I think is honestly a
692
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better sound than expect respect bedroom which is where we record that preset does a lot of heavy lifting yeah I will have to
693
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look into that because my method again I'm going through premier but there's like some stuff that's in there so what I'll do is I
694
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will take a full track and I apply there's a dehummer noise yep which takes out like every ambient noise which is nice like I used to have a box it was like this big
695
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Amazon box that had foam on the inside and it just looked like this big like great that I was talking into and I realized oh I
696
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keep just clean that up later on so I did dehummer put it through that got rid of that and then I use a limiter on there so I will actually
697
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boost the sound so anything that's quiet and it like kind of equals everything out and then anything that peaks I say like okay I
698
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just wanted like one decibel down so it isn't like screeching at you and I just apply that I export that file and then I
699
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go in and just edit the cleaned up file from there so it's not having to like render like little clips it's like it's already
700
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done so you render at several times to clean it yes yes I do yeah so everything you just described
701
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that's what the radio preset does it applies five filters at the same time onto your stuff okay when you click it it
702
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will show you what it's done to it and it is just selecting from the inbuilt menus of clean up but essentially it's just a
703
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little node that will do it all at once yeah everything you just described we just use as a preset and then we add a
704
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little bit of reverb to our audio recreations to make them sound my theory is that when you're recording a
705
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podcast like you quite close to the microphone the when you're recording movie you normally got a boom above them so it's never quite
706
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as clean so we had a little bit of reverb to our recreations to differentiate from our in studio audio but also to try
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and emulate this idea that the mic wouldn't be as close to yeah that makes sense that when I did tweak a little bit it's a
708
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reverb setting which is based on reverb at a furnished room then we're made some tweaks to it but I have then saved that
709
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as a preset in nice audition so whenever we do a scene I'll just add our own preset which is the in-room
710
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reverb audio thing to it yeah not everyone's audio is equal when they send it to you but if you add a layer of
711
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:34,000
reverb the differences between their audio are far harder to pick oh so with your actors your voice actors they're
712
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recorded on their end with their own equipment yeah we don't meet any of our voice actors apart from family and
713
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friends okay so we send them the script I send them like pages of direction as well so every scene I'll have a bunch of
714
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notes and anything that I need specifically or anything like that but everyone sends their stuff in isolated I put it
715
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all together if there's a line that I'm like oh you get interrupted in this line I'll say to them I need one or
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two words after that because when you're interrupted you don't immediately stop yeah so I'll add little notes like that for them
717
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I mix them all together and I make their voices match so it sounds like they're all in the same room or all in the same
718
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session or whatnot we just did our year one episode the bad man you won and the guy that plays Jim Gordon and the
719
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guy plays Harvey Dent never met never talked never did about and it's weird because they've got such good chemistry in the
720
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episode which is just such a bizarre coincidence and even got pointed out by a guest being like then those guys
721
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really find chemistry interesting which is weird because they never met each other and we even got a name out from
722
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one of them being like it's weird we do have good chemistry but I recorded this looking at a wall which is just props to our voice actors
723
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if anything makes it stand out it's not us it's these voice actors that we manage to get to actually come on and help us
724
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that I think really so what we're doing interesting now we like to give ourselves very small voice roles as like a little something to
725
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add in I like to play Alfred a lot for some reason I don't know why I just like the idea of doing Alfred voices
726
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or except for Batman you won and there's a reason for that I played Alfred in every Batman thing that we've done
727
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because I just think it's yeah no he's a lot of fun he's always witty he's always yeah
728
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hello Mr. Wayne yes yes I do the very refined Alfred like that I don't know if you've heard HBO's Batman
729
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podcast that they put out there no I haven't the radio adventures right is it any good it is really good I believe the first season
730
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I've only heard the first like two or three episodes because that's what showed up on the RSS feed
731
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but for some reason they put the whole season on HBO Max a visual which we can't get here by the way
732
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that's so weird why yeah sorry this country is somewhat plagued by Rupert Murdoch the owner of Fox News
733
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oh no he's got a company called Fox tell which signed an agreement about 20 years ago with HBO
734
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that they get all of their content first I don't know what kind of contract it is but they're still on the contract with them
735
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so the only way to get HBO content here is to pay through Murdoch's company which is so expensive
736
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huh which is why Game of Thrones was the most part of showing the world that makes sense of all the countries in the world
737
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Australia was the highest pirated of Game of Thrones because the only way to watch it here was to get a premium subscription to Fox tell which cost about $45 a month
738
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Jesus just to watch that watch it's insane yeah that makes sense
739
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so we don't have a legal way to listen to that yet
740
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yeah other than the RSS feed with the first three I'm trying to look up the casting for it because it is a really interesting cast
741
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okay I know in the highly quen show Deidreq beta plays Batman he's got a great Batman voice he does
742
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so for Batman in the show it's Jeffrey Wright Commissioner Gordon
743
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oh really Commissioner Gordon yeah he's got a nice gravelly voice he has such a great voice
744
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they have a bunch of people from like SNL so like Jason Sedacus is in a Fred Armistat Ken and Thompson
745
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:06,000
Bobby Moynihan he plays the penguin Seth Meyers is like a news reporter Rosario Dawson is cat woman
746
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oh that's good such an interesting cast they're like even just like Jeffrey Wright as Batman is just like perfect right off the bat
747
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yeah definitely yeah I get excited whenever we find a project that has a lot of recognizable voices in it
748
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because then I know we're gonna have a lot of fun matching them
749
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yeah so Superman lives as a great example when you know you can get a Nicholas Cage and Christopher Walken in the scene
750
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that was amazing you know that you're gonna have a lot of fun solving that riddle
751
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of all the projects that haven't yet leaked that we wish for is that fifth Schumacher Batman
752
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because there's that sequence that people have often talked about which is it's a hallucination sequence
753
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where the scarecrow again Nicholas Cage makes Batman hallucinate and they were going to bring back every villain from every movie
754
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oh which means we potentially could have replicated Jack Nicholson and Danny DeVito and Jim Carrey
755
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like it's all these recognizable voices that would be so fun to try and find replicas for
756
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that'd be amazing in our episodes yeah but scripture's never leaked
757
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I think I remember reading about that I think it was in our episode
758
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because they were going to bring back Jack Nicholson yeah David and I couldn't figure it out
759
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they explained it as like the most expensive sequence ever shot or something because of all the people
760
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we're gonna be in it and yeah Jack Nicholson it even confirmed it
761
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I think he said something along lines of the Joker's back baby you know
762
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you know that weird Jack Nicholson was away that it is
763
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yeah that would have been incredible now that makes sense because I remember the weird casting
764
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that came out of it was like Madonna was gonna do Harley Quinn
765
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yeah really yeah the rumors like her and Courtney love I think were like the two names that had kept bouncing between
766
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and Nick Cage's scarecrow it's fantastic
767
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,000
like what is what good casting
768
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every time we find a voice match for someone I'm always just a little bit excited
769
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yeah you said that friend of yours these people that are kind of like
770
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like focal freaks they can do multiple voices
771
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I don't understand it I don't know how they do it
772
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you know I do I for someone that runs a show that relies so heavily on I can't do anything
773
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other than I think I got away with Maximus because I'm Australian
774
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and Russell Crowe does a pretty dodgy accent in Gladiator where he just sounds pretty Australian for most of it
775
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I could kind of get away with it you know
776
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what's the longest time you spent editing in episode?
777
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Oh boy it takes a long time this Star Wars episodes from last season they took forever
778
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they took forever to make the scenes so each scene probably took five hours
779
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actually it really depends some scenes were a lot easier
780
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but a couple hours per scene and then once the episode was set that's our biggest
781
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fire we've ever done that was almost 20 layers deep
782
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:56,000
each pass took probably about two hours and then you do about five or six passes
783
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at one point we had pretty much locked and then we wanted to add an additional
784
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layer of extra voices again which we did end up doing in the end but that process
785
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once you get everything edited and pretty locked to move anything moves everything
786
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so we added about six or seven single lines of dialogue throughout that episode
787
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but that took way longer than it was probably reasonable because I or Ian would have said
788
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the line and we were replacing it but the actors was a millisecond or two longer
789
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so that just pushed everything else out slightly or back slightly
790
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yeah that was that was a hassle that one took hours and hours I don't honestly don't
791
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know how many hours that that actually took but took a long time
792
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yeah before you go I just want to get three things from you because it's the
793
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Oscars we haven't seen anything yet will just do best picture who do you
794
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want to win who do you think will win and then what is a movie that you thought
795
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should have been nominated okay who do I think will win okay sir may my
796
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partner put money on the Oscars as a bit of a way to make it we haven't told
797
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each other who we voted for I actually put my money on Coda
798
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okay thinking it might do a green book and split the vote and everyone else's
799
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second or third option was Coda and that wins because power of the dog seems
800
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like the front runner it's one a bunch of awards but I do know it's a bit
801
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divisive as well it's a bit of a punt because it's not the betting odds weren't on
802
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that's my wild card as far as should be nominated I know a lot of people have said
803
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Spider-Man nowhere home yes understand it because one everyone seemed to love it
804
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to it helped cinemas a lot some of it used to work in the cinema industry and
805
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knows people that still do man that movie was like a saving grace it brought
806
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floods of people back in yeah and it genuinely was the buzz of the town for like
807
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a long time that being said I don't think it's the best Spider-Man film so
808
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part of it is like torn because I think that what it represents is really
809
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important in that way it should probably be in some way heralded and then the other
810
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part of is like yeah but the Oscars are bullshit so who cares it made two
811
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billion dollars it's gonna be okay you know yeah so for me I tend to
812
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wards we're little indie films which is I guess the problem with the Oscars
813
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but something like come on come on or Zola or something like that I'm always
814
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kind of sad when they don't make it because they're just a bit too weird yeah what should
815
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we know of the best picture nominations this year they're all pretty decent so
816
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got balfast balfast was really good I watch balfast straight after I watched
817
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death on the night I did something similar to I had this interesting thing I turned
818
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on my partner so we just watch death of the night which is an ugly fucking film
819
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like it looks really ugly oh I had so much fun it was so bad but I loved it
820
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and then we were watching balfast and it's the sequence towards the beginning
821
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and don't worry there's no spoilers but it's this one great tracking circular
822
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one shot in which you see things starting to escalate in the street and things
823
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getting out of hand yeah really really inventive yeah and I turn on my partner
824
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I'm like God you can tell when people give a shit about the movie they're
825
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,000
directing because like what a wonderful shot what a great way to betray that
826
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compared to death on the night which was just so bland so balfast was good if a
827
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tad too long Kona I liked more than I expected to it's sappy it's saccharine
828
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it's whatever but it genuinely made me feel good yes I do appreciate that Apple
829
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TVs become a weird home of like wholesome entertainment don't look up I thought
830
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was pretty average I feel like Adam McKay has been chasing the big short ever
831
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since he made the big short yeah I have my issues with don't look up especially
832
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the one where like why is one country in charge of like saving the world yeah yeah
833
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I know right like do we have that big of an eagle here in the US to be like
834
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:43,000
yeah no one else can solve this problem but us and we have our own issues so no I can
835
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tell you from an outside of perspective any world what to film made by America is
836
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really interesting I bet because you would assume America one world what
837
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:57,000
it does seem that way I remember watching Pearl Harbor and I was so young in
838
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naive and I was just like wow we really dominated after getting attacked and I
839
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had to rewire so many things after seeing that movie to be like oh we may have messed
840
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up a little there not to throw shade on your wonderful country too much but if it
841
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was like a baton race you guys were the last baton to be grabbed yeah and go pass
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the finish line and then they were like we did it we won the race yeah I completely
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agree with that that do not thought was fantastic I really did like it power the
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dog I thought was ever rated Westside story better than I expected and not
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morale also better than I expected I'll probably give it to probably do because
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I didn't think that could pull it off and they did yeah doon is been like the
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white whale of Hollywood yeah they either can't get it right they've been trying
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to make the movie they've been trying to like get the technology the and just
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like finding the right story to put it together and I feel like they finally
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got to this place where like it's still the first movie it's just like a new
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hope like new hopes not the greatest star wars movie we know it's empire but I
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feel like doon right now is in that phase of just like hey we have to set up
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this world and it's a vast world with so many moving parts to it where the first
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movie even though it drags in some points it's there to be like this is what
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we're dealing with and then the next movie is going to be like this is where
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we're going to ramp things up and it's going to be amazing yeah in the lockdown
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of 2020 especially here in Melbourne we will lock down for almost four months
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so I had a lot of time in my hands and I read doon for the first time and I remember
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thinking oh there's some stuff in here I don't know how they're going to
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represent one of them was the force fields yeah and then after that I watched
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the original doon movie the day was one blocky in which to really blocky
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stuff and to get around a lot of the law that you're explaining they just have a
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lady at the start talk to you for about two minutes straight about what's going on
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and then when I saw the new doon one of my big questions like how they're going to do
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the force fields because they look real dumb and then when I saw it was just a kind
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of a shame overlay that only came out when you were impacted I was like yeah fantastic
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that's such a good solution I never would have thought of it and that happened
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constantly throughout watching that doon being like oh that's a great way to
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represent that never would have thought of that if that doesn't win best visual
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effects I'm going to burn the down to the ground because those visual effects are
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amazing do you see the sand screens they created they didn't shoot on blue or
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green screens they created sand screens all the wraparound yeah and they're all
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like yellow beige color obviously they can't pull a key off it so they had to hand
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rotoscope everybody out of those scenes they add the backgrounds back in
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amazing amount of work but it really does make it feel like they're there huh I
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kind of want to rewatch it now I am in doon obsessive mode currently because
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of hot or off ski because of all that and it's just any information I can find
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out or do I'm just like eating it all up because it is just the project's amazing
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the stories behind it are incredible I really can't wait to put this
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episode together because there's so much stuff about their like self-adour
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deli in there demanding a hundred thousand dollars per hour I was like this
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story is crazy like in every single part of it and I love it as a
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tease for our upcoming season we do have gemma d'Otto is at the mountain of madness
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ready to go and we've also done Robert Rodriguez's original version of predators
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yes for which we managed to get Joe Godet back to voice Arnold Schwarzenegger
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who knows which he did in crusade so that one turned into a really fun episode
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with some really fun Arnie ask yes my words so I look forward to those really
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quick my ask your picks how are the dog I think is gonna win I can't disagree with you
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there yeah I do think it is the hot choice I played a bet based purely on trying to win money
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and then go to pay it a lot more and there is a chance you know what I mean yes if I put
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10 bucks on power the dog I think I won ten dollars and four cents nice
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whereas if coada wins it's like 20 bucks yeah I think should win I think I'm
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doing between bell fast and doon I think bell fast should do it it's also Kenneth
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Brana this is peak Kenneth Brana yeah we're not gonna get anything better
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and it is very personal to him I think it says best film I think bell fast
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and doing both fall into this category of you can tell someone put a lot into this movie
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yes yeah and it feels like a real achievement in one personal and two scope
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yeah for the two films but those ones are the most you like man someone put everything
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into this and I think they're always the most interesting ones yeah and then the one
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that I wish got a nomination was last night and so hope the Edgar Wright movie
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I just thought it was just so inventive and so interesting and it just the thing is
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like movies that swing for the fences and Edgar Wright does is with every movie
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that he does like I love it and I feel like the academy this is where I say like
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they're taking three steps back or anytime there's any innovation that's out
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there it seems to be ignored and what they are choosing is like a lot of safe choices
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but every once in a while they'll like throw something out there that they know is weird
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but they know at least it's good so with like Guillermo Datoro and the shape of water
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like that was the weird movie that they put out there and be like see we're doing something
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but oftentimes they're not gonna go for it like I recently watched everything
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everywhere all at once and that movie like honestly is the best movie I've seen this year
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I love the Batman and this movie is leagues above it it is just so inventive, so creative
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swing for the fences you never mad to say Mo Michele yeah I yeah oh she is amazing
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and knowing that she was a former I mean she's still doing like Kung Fu moves
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like we saw it in Shang Chi as well for anyone that hasn't seen police story three
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which is her and Jackie Chan as partners like police partners busting a drug ring
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incredible like that's peak Michelle Yo to me she does this awesome similar Shang Chi split kick
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where she kicks two people at once amazing I'm out of it I also will say just quickly
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I think PIG should have been nominated for more stuff PIG was I movie that everyone thought
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was gonna be a joke when it when it was announced Nicholas Cage to get revenge
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for someone stealing his pig man what a performance and what a movie I think that should be nominated for
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well that was a great movie I agree and we might be a little inclined to shift towards Nicholas Cage
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but that's why I agree I want to thank you again for being able to share your time to talk about this
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being able to talk about the podcast is nothing that I really get to do as often as
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least like the technical part because no one likes to hear like how I edit out
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hisses and bumps and whatnot so yeah thank you for your time thanks having me man it was fun yeah
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