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00:00:08.516Hello, and welcome to Conversations with Kojo. I'm the student host, Willem Lim.
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00:00:12.336Today, I'm with recent SDSU alum, Emily Atrell.
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00:00:14.960Emily, why don't you introduce yourself today?
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00:00:21.999Okay. Hi, I'm Emily Atrell. I just graduated in May of 2026.
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00:00:30.427I graduated with an advertising major and then minors in journalism and digital and social media.
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00:00:35.707While at SDSU, I was involved in the Pride, the Women's Choir,
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00:00:45.279Currently, I'm in Sioux City, Iowa, working at KTIV, which is one of our local news stations.
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00:00:53.590I work as a technical media producer, So what that means is I'm directing newscasts.
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00:00:59.517I'm working behind the scenes for a lot of stuff.
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00:01:17.120You mentioned that you were an advertisement major and you graduated as an advertisement major.
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00:01:22.667How did you get involved with like student media and like journalism and were
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00:01:24.075you always interested in that,
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00:01:34.007I worked a little bit with like broadcasting before I went to college with one
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00:01:40.111of our local sports teams doing like cameras, directing, replay, stuff like that.
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00:01:46.697And when I got to SDSU, our first year seminar class, we took a trip to Sioux
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00:01:58.367And that's where I really kind of got interested in it. I saw their control
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00:02:07.317So I talked to Erica Kwam and she helped me get involved with On Call with the
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00:02:13.072Prairie Doc, doing production assistant stuff, running prompter, cameras stuff like that,
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00:02:22.783and then that summer of 2024 I actually interned at KTIV as a technical media producer and.
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00:02:31.310And after that, after my time there, Jim and Rocky reached out to me and kind
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00:02:36.004of introduced the idea of restarting the newscast.
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00:02:47.920And I guess that's kind of how I got started. Yeah.
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00:02:54.630What like so obviously the Collegian Report right now is way different than
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00:03:02.243Tell me about that, like being at the beginning of, I guess,
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00:03:06.540the revival of the Collegian Report and like the differences it was,
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00:03:10.548the differences there were then and then when you graduated.
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00:03:17.790Yeah it's amazing to be a part of something that became what it is now in the
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00:03:24.940beginning there were just three students and then rocky was our main advisor helping with it,
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00:03:29.503i was the director and then we had annie witt who was our anchor,
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00:03:34.650and she was also writing and then lsd fodder and she was our producer and it
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00:03:39.400was just the three of us our first episode was in the basement of the student
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00:03:41.172union in the collegiate office,
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00:03:48.447and it was like two minutes I think was the length, just very short stories.
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00:03:54.060We had readers which was basically just Annie on cam reading a story.
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00:03:58.132I think we had maybe two graphics, nothing crazy.
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00:04:02.110And then we started getting more people involved. They were seeing what we're
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00:04:06.283doing and they were like, I want to try this out. It's something different than
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00:04:10.710writing in the newspaper or being on air for radio.
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00:04:15.820They wanted to learn more of the technical stuff, writing for broadcasts,
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00:04:24.570And then we had our broadcast news reporting class and people would come in
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00:04:36.789Seeing your work that you're doing in class actually being put to use in our newscast.
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00:04:41.980And it just kind of started growing and more people were getting involved.
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00:04:47.278And now we've got different anchors in every week. We have an ag segment, sports.
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00:04:52.348We started getting ads in our newscast, which was huge for us.
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00:04:58.450And now we're putting out 10 to 15 minute shows every single week.
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00:05:04.010So it was crazy how fast it'll happen. Looking back on it now,
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00:05:07.988I'm in awe of how fast we grew.
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00:05:14.034I mean, what was the, like, when did Rocky reach out to you?
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00:05:21.706The beginning of the fall semester of 2024, after we all got back from that
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00:05:26.046summer. So right after my internship, they reached out saying they wanted to
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00:05:33.156And if I would be interested in kind of going along with that.
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00:05:38.216So, yeah, that growth is insane because like just like even.
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00:05:45.056I came in late, you know, I came in quite late and knowing like even even from
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00:05:53.036when you left off from the spring semester to like now, it feels like we keep doing more.
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00:05:57.458And it's just so cool to see like people come in and and like,
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00:06:03.426I guess, to help out and and want to do things, you know, and it's just two
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00:06:07.736two years. It's such such rapid improvement that. Yeah.
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00:06:12.076Would you say that you were comfortable with leaving the Collegian Report as
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00:06:13.457it was when you graduated?
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00:06:19.386Oh, definitely. I I think we were in a really good spot.
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00:06:23.936And then I knew the people that we were leaving it with. And I knew they were
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00:06:27.906going to do great things and they had so many plans. And I was just as sad as
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00:06:32.096I was to leave such an amazing program and these amazing people.
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00:06:38.116I knew it was in good hands. Just the plans that everyone was talking about
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00:06:50.265Yeah, definitely. What were some of like the biggest challenges that you had at the beginning of it?
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00:06:55.480I think we were such a small group, so that was a bit of a challenge.
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00:07:01.298But I think we all worked together well, so that really did help.
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00:07:07.993And I think the biggest challenge for me was I didn't really know a lot on like
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00:07:14.943the writing and the news side of things just because I at that point I wasn't a journalism minor.
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00:07:21.270I took like Jim's basic media writing class, but that's because we all do.
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00:07:25.883And I wasn't a huge writer. And so I think that was the biggest challenge for
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00:07:31.673me is I wanted to help out with that aspect of stuff. But I'm not a very big
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00:07:37.773So I think for me, that was a big challenge.
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00:07:43.185Are you more confident in your ability to write now? Yeah.
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00:07:49.543After, there's so many classes that work on different parts of your writing. And,
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00:07:55.483as like a freshman, I was like, I don't really know what I'm doing.
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00:08:02.773But taking classes with Jim and Rocky and even Heather, some of those ad classes
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00:08:10.421really helped me work on my creativity and be more comfortable with what I'm creating.
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00:08:12.663Those really helped with that.
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00:08:21.723Now, how has your life changed from being in student media to being in a professional
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00:08:32.023It's quite a shift, especially now we have so many shows each day.
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00:08:39.547And the way that we do our shows, it's coding. And so we put all of our stuff
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00:09:02.403everything is queued up correctly and all of the video is right and everything it's a lot more,
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00:09:10.327on the like prep side of things so it's a lot different than what we did at
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00:09:14.727Collegian Media where you have that switcher and you're doing all of it through
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00:09:17.388that rather than having everything prepped,
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00:09:20.867But I'm still working with great people.
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00:09:25.695And I think people in this field are just amazing people. And it really,
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00:09:31.217I am seeing that through working in school and now where I'm at,
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00:09:34.635everybody is just great people. Yeah.
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00:09:42.967How many shows do you work on a day? so my shift i work two to eleven so i'm
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00:09:50.693kind of like the night side of things we have three shows a day a 5 p.m a 6 p.m and a 10 p.m,
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00:09:57.417and so i'll do like one of those shows a day and then i'll be working on,
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00:10:03.420master control is what it's called but we're working on the logs for the station,
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00:10:09.217making sure all of the spots from sales are getting in anything that our creative
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00:10:12.873team is putting in and then also we'll have.
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00:10:19.848Like live events going live sports right now we're really into football we just
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00:10:23.082got out of our like big baseball season,
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00:10:29.328so we'll run breaks for that and then there's always like an interview or,
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00:10:34.108a stand-up for a package or something that will kind of help work on.
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00:10:39.888And so it'll usually be like the one show and then you're working on other stuff
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00:10:41.591for this station throughout your shift,
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00:10:49.528nice how has like working like live live events been like because like,
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00:10:54.208i started working at the prairie dock and we just had our first live show and
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00:10:56.008even though all i do is like press
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00:11:01.508one button and then press like whatever lowell tells me to press i still,
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00:11:07.018i i the whole time i was like did i click record i like even though i know i
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00:11:10.480clicked record i was like like I was so worried,
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00:11:15.508what has that been like because the Collegian report we tried doing it as as
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00:11:19.958live as possible even though it wasn't live so what was kind of how did how
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00:11:21.887does that that switch feel like.
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00:11:30.164It was a little stressful, especially in the beginning. I think just I was worried
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00:11:35.534something was going to go wrong or I was going to hit the wrong button and something
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00:11:37.404was going to happen that wasn't supposed to happen.
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00:11:40.167But I think I've definitely got more comfortable with that.
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00:11:46.664Just like it's live tv what's what's gonna happen is gonna happen and we do
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00:11:51.163our best to control that and I think with time I've gotten better,
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00:11:57.284with like by coding and knowing how everything works and there's certain things
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00:12:00.564like you have to clear out a graphic channel before putting the next thing in
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00:12:04.096and just knowing how all of that flows together,
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00:12:09.245I think I've really gotten more comfortable with that and it's kind of exciting
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00:12:12.449being on like being live you don't,
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00:12:16.484you have it planned out but you don't know exactly what's going to happen and
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00:12:18.744I I don't know I think it's kind of fun.
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00:12:24.755Sound fun. It's just like you got to keep you just got to stand your toes, basically.
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00:12:29.881Yeah, you don't you don't really know what's going to happen, but you do your best.
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00:12:33.747And with time, you get better at it. And then yeah.
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00:12:37.715And then once you get better at it, you can start being more creative with your
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00:12:40.375monitors or your camera shots and stuff like that.
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00:12:45.265And so I think I'm starting to get there where I feel comfortable with the basics.
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00:12:50.575And so then you can add more stuff. And I work with some great people and they have these great ideas.
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00:12:55.875And I'm really trying to push myself to be like them and make all these great monitors.
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00:12:59.325And they're nominated for Emmy Awards and all these other things.
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00:13:03.995And I'm like, I want to be like that someday. And so I work with some great
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00:13:09.215people and they they try and help me to if I have a question or an idea and
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00:13:13.495I'm like, how how can I make this look better?
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00:13:20.835this? And I think we all just work great together as a team. So so cool.
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00:13:27.435You know, like we always talk about like we are standard like for like whenever
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00:13:30.325we're trying to work on something is like, what would Emily do? What did Emily do?
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00:13:36.335Would like we we just like we we we always we always think back on like your
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00:13:42.417experience and it's so cool that someone who inspires us is also inspired by other by other people,
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00:13:49.095but the collegian report it like was so it seems like so much so different than,
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00:13:55.475than what you do at ktiv as technical media producer what how did the collegian
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00:13:59.899how did how did working for the Collegian Report, like help prepare you for it?
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00:14:04.832That's a good question. I feel like I should have a quicker answer.
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00:14:10.748I think, I feel like there's so many things that I could talk about.
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00:14:15.701Definitely just being able to handle a lot of things at once.
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00:14:21.903Like with Collegian Media, I'm trying to figure out who's doing what stories,
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00:14:27.563what stories we actually have for this week, things that staff is working on
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00:14:30.459that might take a little bit longer,
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00:14:36.093like a more developed story rather than a kicker that we got that week.
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00:14:38.510And it's just a fun, lighthearted, quick story.
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00:14:49.693And then making sure we have staff for studio positions and all of all of the
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00:14:51.963things that go into getting our show out on time.
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00:14:59.019I think just the multitasking really is a big thing because at work,
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00:15:04.753if I'm doing master control, the logs came in and then we have a live event
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00:15:09.663going on and some spots need to be prepped and ready to go.
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00:15:15.423And just, I feel like in this field of work, there's so many things that are happening all at once.
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00:15:20.491And if you can figure out how to stay calm in those situations,
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00:15:22.712that's a really good thing.
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00:15:27.143Because it's easy to get stressed out, and I do sometimes. But if you can figure
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00:15:32.663out how to bring yourself back down and figure out what needs to be done and
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00:15:35.948just get it done, I think that's a really big thing.
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00:15:43.833Now, going back to like, like the college aspect when you were here in student
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00:15:47.477media, what, what do you miss the most about it?
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00:15:52.106Hmm. I really miss the people.
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00:15:57.160Like, everybody that I worked with, they were just great people.
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00:16:04.686And I really was friends with them, not just, like, going to work and talking
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00:16:07.682to them and then leaving and that was it.
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00:16:12.886Like we really all connected I think and that was one of the big things that
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00:16:19.226I really do miss and even like our advisors and our teachers I I learned so
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00:16:20.496much from them and I feel like,
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00:16:27.065this is gonna sound really cheesy but Kojo is a family I really do believe that
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00:16:29.823everybody just gets so close and then,
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00:16:36.556I graduate and it's I still talk to people but it's just like I miss seeing
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00:16:40.896everybody every day and i think that's that's one of the biggest things i miss from,
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00:16:46.726from being there is just the people for sure definitely i think one of my favorite
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00:16:50.326memories was when you me ryan and jacob,
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00:16:52.926went mini golfing.
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00:17:00.996That was such a fun day that's such a core core memory for my student media
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00:17:04.596experience as well Because, like, I mean, it is kind of cool,
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00:17:07.726I just say, but Kojo is a family.
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00:17:13.386And it's just like, like, I really appreciate everyone, everyone around here.
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00:17:15.805So I can, I see where you're coming from.
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00:17:21.540Yeah, I think that really just shows the connections that we build. Just...
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00:17:27.948We went mini golfing together and I feel like some people maybe wouldn't be
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00:17:33.504able to say that about people they work with. But I think that just shows how,
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00:17:36.697how connected everybody is. Yeah, definitely.
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00:17:42.118I think it's cool that like everyone is, was like, is like so close with each
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00:17:47.050other, especially because at like post like graduation, like seeing like,
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00:17:49.718like you working at like ktiv,
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00:17:58.427and like claire working at at her like radio station stuff like it's just cool seeing everybody be,
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00:18:00.782so many places.
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00:18:06.798And i think i think kojo really gave us that opportunity we were able to kind
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00:18:10.368of pick what we wanted to learn the path we wanted to go down and everybody's
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00:18:12.700so willing to help and now,
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00:18:17.804we we're seeing where that is taking us everybody is,
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00:18:23.928doing the things that they wanted to do whether that's writing or like you said
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00:18:27.507Claire's on the radio and behind the scenes,
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00:18:34.978producing newscasts people are at advertising firms like it's we were really
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00:18:39.488able to choose our own path and everybody there is so willing to help us and
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00:18:43.354they want us to succeed and I think that's really special.
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00:18:45.368Totally,
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00:18:54.502Like, I guess this is my last question, but what would you tell students going into student media?
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00:19:00.433Like anything, like what would you tell them? Like a piece of wisdom or like
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00:19:04.147a suggestion of like what to do or like what would you tell them?
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00:19:09.276I would say I feel like this kind of just goes for anybody, but get involved.
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00:19:17.523You really meet some of the best people and it helps you also know what's going on campus.
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00:19:23.773So that is kind of important for student media, knowing what's going on,
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00:19:27.383meeting these people from, they have different perspectives from you.
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00:19:33.329And that really, I feel like that helps just as somebody in student media,
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00:19:40.043seeing all these different perspectives and really opening your eyes to everything
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00:19:45.462rather than, I feel like sometimes you can get so stuck in your head of this is.
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00:19:49.347My perspective and that's the only thing,
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00:19:51.623like that's how everybody sees it.
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00:19:58.463And so I feel like going to different clubs or meetings and just meeting everybody,
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00:20:01.683meeting new people really just helps with that.
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00:20:06.473And like going out and getting stories, you're meeting all these other people
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00:20:12.147and learning their sides of things. And it's just, I think that's really important.
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00:20:17.720Just getting involved, doing as much as you can. and I know you you know that,
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00:20:22.463but I can't even keep track of how many clubs you go visit but I think that's
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00:20:24.686amazing you're just meeting so many people,
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00:20:32.563and yeah it's great networking is fun networking is fun thank you so much for
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00:20:37.943for joining me today and taking the time and thank you to everyone listening
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