Gervonta Davis-Lamont Roach Controversial Draw And Aftermath + PBC Undercard, News And Nostalgia | Fight Freaks Unite Recap

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Good to have you aboard again.
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We love previewing going into the weekend on this podcast feed.
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Recap coming off the podfeed it is. You love this
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an eagerly anticipated edition of the show, so much so
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that since the controversy with was it a knockdown or not?
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Why in the world is he allowed to have his
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eyes wiped off while a round's going on and there's
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not some kind of penalty punishment point taken away, We're
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ready to straighten all of that out.
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As soon as all that happened.
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A lot of people were ready for this here pod
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right here that we have on the Fight for Each
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Night recap podcast. So make sure you're following, subscribing, radius
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and review us. I say eagerly anticipating because I've had
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people contacting me, and I know you've had people contacting you,
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including on social media, wanting to know the latest and
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when is the podcast out and when can we hear more?
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And what's the under over on f bombs, which I
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will set at twenty seven on the number of less
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than twenty seven. Yes, we do not have a swear jar.
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Usually there's a swear jar.
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Where did you mention what fight we're talking about?
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By the way, I just said Javonte Davis at Javonte
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Davis Main Event PBC on Prime. Usually there's a swear jar.
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We got to put like a quarter in or a
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dollar in. You might get enough where I could go
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to McDonald's and have an extra value meal after tonight.
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With this, all right, welcome in.
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Let's get into all of it, including the card, but
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a lot of it is going to be spent on
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the controversy around this draw. It ends up being a
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draw with Lamont Roach in the main event at Berkley's.
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We're going to get into that. We got news on
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other stuff and nostalgia. We got a lot of fights
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to recap. This wasn't the only controversy Rayphiel, because the
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controversy in Belfast is did Patty Donovan hear the bell
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or not he's deqed there after the referee in that instance,
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we got controversy transatlantic here on the program. But let's
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begin with what happened in the main event, Gervonte Davis
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and LaMonte Roach. All right, three two one, blast off
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on whichever way you want to go first, it does
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end in a draw.
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Well, I had it a draw one fourteen to one fourteen.
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But if you watch the fight, you saw what happened
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in the ninth round. If the referee Steve Willis had
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ruled that a knockdown as he should have, I would
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have had that round a ten eight round and he
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would have won the fight one fifteen to one thirteen.
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He would have won the WBA lightweight title. He would
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have handed the number one American boxing star his first loss,
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and he would have been in position to command gazillions
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of dollars more than he probably would be on a rematch.
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That they do it now, because he would be the champion,
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and he would have defeated Tank Davis, and it would
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have been a glorious night for the career of Lamont Roach,
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a fighter, by the way, who most people pissed on
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before this show happened and didn't like the opponent. And
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I remember very distinctly discussing with you and others over
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the last couple of months since his fight is mate,
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and I've said to everybody who would listen, this is
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a real fight. Lamont Roach may not have the big
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name that some of the other fighters in the weight
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class in and around the way class have that you
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might prefer to see. Whoever it may have been, of
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course Stevenson, t Fia, Momopez, you know, pick a guy,
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But Lamon Roach is a real fighter and Realmont Roach
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is going to do a good fight. Didn't I didn't
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pick him to win the fight, but I thought it's
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a legit bout. He's going to be in it, and
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he's going to make it competitive, and there is a
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reason that he's in this matchup. And I was proven right.
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He should have had the glory of a lightweight championship,
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be a two division title holder, because he is still
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the reigning WBA title holder in the one hundred and
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thirty pound way class. But TJ, where shall we start
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with this nonsense?
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Well, you just you set the stage, everybody, let's go
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to the end. Everybody wants to know about the controversy
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in the ninth round. You and I were not in communication,
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full disclosure, and you're never in communication when fights are
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going on. You're like, leave me alone, don't text me,
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don't believe me. Whatever, it is, all right. So I
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am in another world working college basketball coverage, different stuff.
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But then I got onto the main event about halfway
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through the fight when that was done, and I was
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dumbfounded by That's my word. I was dumbfounded by what
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I saw on several front. So let's just go right
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to the controversy. You're watching like I'm watching remotely. Did
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you lose your mind when this whole thing happened with
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the knee and then he's in the corner and then
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the referee is having a full blown conversation about whether
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he should be counting or not counting. I will say
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it for the first of several times, what are we
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doing here?
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The broadcasters on the Prime video pay per view Marrow,
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Ronalo app Mas, Brian Campbell, Uh, we're all Bryant, I
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mean Abner Marris seemed to think that Tank Davis was
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going to his corner because he didn't bring out his mouthpiece,
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which even if that was the case, he would be
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breaking the rules if he would. If that were the case,
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he'd point to his mouth and the referee would see
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it and call a time out and go and get
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the mouthpiece. Marol Ronaldo was dead on when he basically said,
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what you said, what are we doing here? What just happened?
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Because here's the bottom line. In the more than one
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century that men have put gloves on their hands and fought.
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If you go down on the canvas and it's not
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a slip, it's not a equipment malfunction, it's not a foul,
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and you, of your own volition, you voluntarily go down
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on your knee, that, my friend, is a knockout and
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or a knocked out down and it has been that
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way for a century. And so before he took the knee,
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there were three punches thrown by Lamont roach. He threw
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a right hand and he came behind it with two
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quick jabs. Now I don't believe that the right hand
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landed the jab. I think one or two of them did.
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You couldn't really tell. But regardless, within the split second
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of that happening, of those punches being launched by Lamont Roach.
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Tank Davis literally took he turned to the side and
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he went down on the canvas with his knee, got
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up and then sprinted to his corner. And you didn't
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know what he was doing, but he was shouting at
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somebody and his coach, Calvin Ford in the corner, came
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up on the steps with a white towel. I thought
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he was thrown in the towel for a quick secon
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when I saw the white towel, but he just wiped off.
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I honestly, my honest reaction is I thought it was
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the mouthpiece, but they were wiping his eyes, which he
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talked about after the fire.
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Well, we didn't know that at the time. You're like,
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well at the time. So meanwhile, and by.
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The way, completely illegal, completely illegal to do that in
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the middle of a round.
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I'm going to get to that simultaneous to uh the
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referee Steve Willis, uh, you know, to Tank getting up
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and run into the corner. Steve Willis appropriately sends Roach
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to the neutral corner like you're supposed to do, and
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starts to walk towards Tank Davis, who's back is to him,
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but he's got his fingers up and he's starting to
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administer the mandatary a yes, so he's calling it a knockdown, okay,
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And then he stopped calling a knockdown, and Tank Davis
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turned around and he went over to him, and you
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could hear him because he was micd up. And if
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you watch the replayer, go on your social media find
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the clip, you distinctly hear.
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Uh.
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Steve Willis basically say to him, what's going on? And
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then Tank Davis says something back. You don't hear what
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he's saying because he's not Mike, and Steve Willis says, quote,
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I understand you take an ee like that. It looks
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like a knockdown, all right, And then he patted him
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on the chest and he sent him back out to battle.
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And you know why he said it looks like a
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knockdown because it wasn't knocking.
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It was a knockdown.
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So there is this is there's like a cascading pile
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of shit that's happening right now. Okay, let me go
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through this so you'd be quiet for a second. On
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the one hand, he fucks up the knockout of the
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knockdown call.
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There's a first F word he's true.
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Yeah, exactly. He calls it and then he abandons it.
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So he should have called that a knockdown, and that
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would have been a ten eight round unequivocally. Then he
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could have penalized Tank for running to the corner, turning
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his back and running away. He could have further penalized
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the corner for coming up and wiping off his face,
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which is not allowed during the courts of round. There
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are no timeouts in boxing unless the referee calls the
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time out for a reason. Furthermore, when the corner came
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up on the on the on the on the on
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the stairs to wipe off his face one hundred percent,
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he would have been in his the right to disqualify him.
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Now I am not saying he should have disqualified him.
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I am just making the point that there are a
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multitude of things that he could have done that would
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have somehow penalized Tank for that situation. Yet he did
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none of them. And so the fight goes on. It
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starts up again a roach, you know, and they go
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to the final bell and he loses, or it doesn't lose,
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but he gets a draw. It's it's it's one fifteen,
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one thirteen for tank and two judges had it one
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fourteen to one fourteen. Obviously, if he gets a ten
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eight round, it's one fifteen one to thirteen twice and
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one fourteen, one to thirteen, he wins the unanimous decision. Now,
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some people were asking, well, what if the judges can't
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they score a ten eight round on their own, And
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the answer is no, you cannot score that a ten
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eight round because it was not an official knockdown. And
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if you read the Association of Boxing Commissions and their
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criteria and their guidelines and their best practices for judging,
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then you would know that the only way you can
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score a ten to eight round without a knockdown. And
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they recently changed the verbiage in their in their guidelines,
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and I forget the exact word that they used, but
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if something like overwhelming or domination or whatever was but
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clear as day that what occurred in round nine, there
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was nothing of the sort for either fighter. And you
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had a bunch of You had three judges who were
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highly highly experienced championship judges, Eric Marlinsky, Glenn Feldman and
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Steve Weisfeld, three of the best judges in boxing, and
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they were not about to score that, you know, a
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ten eight round without having a knockdown, that would be
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against the rules.
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So in the cascading water fall of Kaka, let me
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interject a couple of things. The first thing is he
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could have taken a point away and did not for
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him going over to the corner right, So that's important.
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The next thing is clarify the instant replay, because so
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many people are going on and on about the instant replay.
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Go okay, So in New York State, they have the
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ability to check a replay. They can they can't do
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everything in terms of what you would want them to see,
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but certainly whether the instance is a knockdown is absolutely
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one of the items that they can check the replay for,
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and so they could look at that and then they
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can make the determination. Now the way that they do that,
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they have a certain length of time that they're allowed
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to do that under the rules. And I checked on
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this because I actually spoke to people involved with that
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this morning. They have the period of time that is
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left in the round, which in this case, the knockdown
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happened at about two minutes and seventeen seconds left in
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round nine, and so by the time that willis finished
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doing whatever he was doing, and they fight started again. Figure,
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there was about two minutes left in the round, so
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they add the rest of the two minutes to look
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at the replay, plus the one minute rest period. Plus
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they could also add an extra thirty seconds, so at
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the most they add three minutes and thirty seconds to
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which they could examine the replay and check that out. Now,
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if you watch the Prime video pay per view, you
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heard the thing happened with whatever. And then, however, long later,
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Mara Ronalo says that that they had been informed that
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the replay official had declined to make an intervention or
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do something or change it or call it to the attention.
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So that was very striking to me because you're like,
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what are you doing here? It's the most basic knockedn Ever,
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let me just finish this. If you go down of
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your own volition for whatever reason, it is a knockdown,
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unless the referee has called a foul or something dramatic
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has happened that would somehow mitigate that. That did not occur.
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Lamont roach through punches. Tank went down, no question about it,
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and he got up and ran to the corner, and
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he even talked about it in the post fight press cards.
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Not that I'm not talking about what he said on
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the television about it, but when he went into the
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media room and he did the actual postfight press comments.
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I'll read you his quote because he was asked more
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about that. He says, oh, the the reason he gave
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was because he had gotten his hair done. I thoughtow
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right back to the Amanda Serrano situation, and he got
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his hair done and they put some kind of gail
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or grease or chemicals in the hair, and it was
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getting in his eyes and was burning, and that's why
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he did what he did. Now, again, that's against the
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rules of my advice and any fighters, don't get your
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fucking hair done with grease and chemicals. I'm during fighting.
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Okay, that's what we've seen it before, and yes, here
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it is again.
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So he said that during the interring interview with Brian Campbell,
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when he went into the media center in the media
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room and he did the interviews, you know, and the
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and the than the full blown press crimes, and I quote,
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I didn't want to get caught while my eyes were burning.
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You can get knocked out like that, so I'd rather
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take the knee.
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He now he's admitting it.
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Yes, one hundred percent. You can go it's not not
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making this up. You can call up the video to
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say yourself.
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Let me interject, go back to the replay thing from
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what you have learned, because these are all important things.
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Is that an alternate referee that's looking at it? Because
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So that's an alternate referrama.
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But I get I got to get to the important
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fact here. So I talk to people today who are
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in the production truck, okay, who are dealing with this,
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and I asked them to explain to me what the
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mechanism by which the replay official would get the information
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and vice on versa. So the way that it works
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is they have they're on a headset and they're at
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the ring apron and they're sitting next to the executive
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director and the commission people, and so when they need
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to see something, they can hit the button or whatever
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and talk to the there's a replay producer in the
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truck that they can ask, or an assistant and they
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will send them the replay on their monitor at ringside.
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And actually, as I am told, and that's not the
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kind of thing they talked about on the broadcast because
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it didn't change anything, it wasn't necessary to go through it.
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But there were times during the fight because of cuts
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that happened during undercard fights where they wanted to check
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was it a headbut was it a cut? Because those
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are the things that they look for. And I was
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told by the commission when I spoke to somebody from
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the commission later, that they were having trouble in the
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undercard fight getting the replay sent to them properly. Now
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go back to my conversation with the people in the truck.
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They said to me that that the replay official asked
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for the replay, they sent the replay and that was
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the end of it. And so I said to that person, well,
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did anybody check and see like what happened, you know,
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like what he saw? Like why he didn't call that said,
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We were just told that they weren't making any decisions
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about it and it was what it was. So I
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was left with the impression that absolutely the replay official
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saw the replay and decided, you know what, way, we're
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not going to do anything about this. Now fast forward
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till later in the day when I'm having a commissioned conversation,
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and I asked the same question, and I was told
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that the ref the the replay official, which is an
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excellent refereen named Ricky Gonzalez, who does plenty of New
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York fights. I've seen him referee a million fights. It's
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like you said, it's usually an alternate ref that is
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doing that position. That he never actually that they continued
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to have problems with the technology and he never actually
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got the replay to view within that within that three
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and a half minute.
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Here. Oh, that would be an important distinction between the
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conversation of they looked at the replay and didn't deem
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it to be worthy of a knockdown, versus they're now saying,
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help me if I'm wrong. They're now saying they didn't
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get a clean look at anything in the time frame
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in which they had to get.
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A clean look. That is, yes, that's their story now
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at the New York Commission.
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Interesting and they acknowledged that when they did look at it,
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it was a knockdown, but they couldn't do anything about
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it in the context of the timing. Won happened now
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Roach's team, I assume, and I will follow up on this.
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I assume they're going to file the appropriate penalty, you know,
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complaint or asking for you know, for a hearing or
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for you know, a protest, what have you?
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Can we take a time out for a second. Who's
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the head of the New York Athletic Commission right now?
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I don't know. I'm legitially asking who is the head?
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Oh, there's a there's a man named Matt Delaglo who
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has been recently appointed as the executive director. He had
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been a wrong saying hold on. He was the interim
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when the previous person left the position, and that is
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a season boxing person's sport for a while. He's there
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last night, Yes, of course.
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How is the head of the New York Commission not
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involved in the in in the whole mechanism here? Of
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we want to look at that replay with what just happened.
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How is he not involved with the TV truck and
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whatever proactively on? We need to see that this could
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be important asking. I'm just asking.
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They couldn't just ask a replay in time between the
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rounds the thirty you know, I said they had the
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remainder of the ref They.
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Had like three minutes. That's an eternity in our busy.
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I'm not a technician.
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There's another f work, but there's a fourth one. But
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but you're telling me what the New York Commission's answer is.
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And what I'm saying to you, how does the director
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not even maybe have to stand up on the apron
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and go hold on and do that. I mean, I'm
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talking about in between rounds, in between rounds and say, hey,
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we're looking at this to make sure while we.
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Have that everybody knew what was going on. I think
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it was handled in his hand. It is ast on
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what my understanding the why I've heard it from both sides.
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I don't think there was anything nefarious, but it still
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doesn't change the fact that Steve Willis started to count
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and then stop because I out said Dravata Davis call
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the time out for himself, which is not legal. It
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was a cluster fuck from everything five. There's so many
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things that happened that were wrong about that. And Lamar
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Roach got fucked out of the title. He got sucked
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out of seven, the best, the number one American attraction
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in that he got. He got fucked out of the
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glory of being handed the title, and it probably fucking
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cost him a whole bunch of money.
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Did you said that.
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All right, are you repeating yourself? Now let's go over
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a couple more important points. Did all three of the judges,
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because I've not seen the breakdown of the cards, did
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they all three give Davis the ninth round?
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In question? They all they did, not all three give
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it to it. So that's interesting.
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But at least one of them that called the fight
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a draw, if not both of them that called it
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a draw. That was Weisfeld and Felderman. Am I correct
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had the.
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Fight a draw? And in round number nine. I'm looking
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at the card. It's on my Substack newsletter, so you
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can go and check it out and see the card
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for yourself. It was ten nine for Gervonta Davis for
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the Feldman card in round number nine. It was ten
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nine on the Eric Marlinsky score card for Gervonta Davis
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in round number nine, and it was ten nine for
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Lamont Roach in round number nine from the Stage Lifeboat card.
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So the fight would have been a unanimous decision in
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favor of Roach had the score been ten to eight
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on all three cards.
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I was just curious, by the way, so one of
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them gave the round to Roach.
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Anyway, it wasn't as if that point was the difference
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on two of the cards in the fight being a draw.
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It was on one of the cards, So that's important.
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Esting I would like to just reiterate again, it's not
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it's not up to the judges to determine whether it's
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a knockdown. If the knockdownis called, based on the way
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that the ABC rules had been updated and then not
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too distant pass, they are compelled to score that round
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ten ten to eight rather not ten to nine.
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And and by the way, while you're going on and
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on about the score cards, because I don't know this,
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what did the judges score the twelfth and final round
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as who did they give it to? Did they all
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give it to Davis? Because that's important because two of
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the cards ended up tied.
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They say it Feldman had a ten nine in favor
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of Laant Roach, Marlinsky had it ten nine in favor
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of Germanda Davis, and Steve Weisfeld had a ten nine
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in favor of Lamont Roach. In fact, Steve Weisfeld gave
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the final four rounds of the fight to Lamont Roach,
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and uh, you know that that got him into a
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one fourteen one to fourteen tie, right, So if you
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take if you take that as a ten end round,
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it becomes one to fifteen to one thirteen. I mean,
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the bottom line is it was just a it was handled.
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It was handled like a hand.
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All right.
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So let's let's bring it back to what you were
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saying in the aftermath of the fight. I thought, Lamont
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Roach his dad handled it with class. They obviously deserve
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a rematch. Here I am asking for good things again.
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The WBA should step in and should order a rematch,
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and should say, because of the controversy, let's do this again.
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Let's have this again. I'm not saying they're.
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Probably gonna do rematch. It's not even necessary in my
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mind that the WBA would have to order number two.
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Tank is a WBA lightweight champion and Roach is a
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WBA Junior lightweight champion. So the fact of the matter
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is they're both associated with that organization with their titles.
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I think both of the camps both said they want it.
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Clearly it would be a bigger commercial event than it
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was even the other night, which was, by the way,
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nineteen two hundred and fifty people in the Barclay Center,
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the largest attendance in the history of the building for
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any event, boxing or otherwise. It will be the second
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highest gate in history of the building, around seven million dollars.
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It'll be just shy of the all time record, which
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is a Rolling Stones concert at the Bark Play Center,
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which is kind of ironic or coincidental, whatever word you
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choose to use that. When Tank Davis broke the record
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for gate at the Capitol One Arena in Washington, d C.
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In twenty twenty three, the gate record that he broke
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was a Rolling Stones concert that was more than five
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million dollars. So Tank and the Stones are connected right now,
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and they're going to obviously have a rematch and it's
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going to be a big deal. But it still doesn't
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change the fact that Lamont Roach should have got the way,
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and there probably would have been a rematch anyway because
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of the fact that he would have handed Tank the loss.
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I didn't think Tank fought a particularly good fight. He
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didn't do shit for the first five or six rounds.
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Not that Roach did a whole bunch more either, but
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it was a nip and tug close fight, and then
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they both turned it on in the second half of
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the fight and The one thing about Lamont Roach. He
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may not be as big of a puncher as Tank Davis,
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but one thing he can do is he can take
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a shot. Because he got hit with a lot of
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straight left hands, he got with a lot of good
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body shots. Tank was going after him and Lamont Roach
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stood up to all of it. And remember they fought
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his amateurs. They've been around each other for years. They're friendly.
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Lamont's father was an amateur coach of Tank Davis's when
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he won an amateur national Golden Gloves. They've been in
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the same boxing circles for a long long time. They
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have a healthy respect. I wouldn't say they're necessarily friends,
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but they definitely like each other. And there's a healthy
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competition there. And when you have the guy that's the star,
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who's the champ, and he's standing in the ring doing
490
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his interview and he's the one asking for a rematch,
491
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you know he lost the fight.
492
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Yeah, and give again Roach moved up in wait.
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Give him the credit in all those circumstances that you
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mentioned with him being the a side fighter and all
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of that. And I will come back with one more
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thing that I continue to reiterate it.
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We've done this for about two years, and you know that,
498
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I don't swear.
499
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Sooner or later you have to start putting your foot
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down and fire people that do incompetent things judging, refereeing, whatever.
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It is is. Yes, the judges all did a good
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job with the judges. But I'm saying, but usually usually
503
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when we're on these and we're railing, we're picture moaning
504
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about the judges. The judges did their right, did the right,
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they had good scores.
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Uh.
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But Steve Willis, who has been for a very long
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time a very good and quality referee.
509
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Uh, there's some questions about him in the past.
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And the reason, I don't know anything off the top
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of my head. But so it is, this was not good.
512
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And yes, and you've got to reprimand or or make
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changes and or get rid of people to reassure the
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public about what's going on when you have a gregious,
515
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horrible thing like you mentioned. This is millions of dollars
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for Lamont roach because of that decision, and there needs
517
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to be accountability. I'm just I'm big on that. And
518
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we're going to talk about anything within the next fight a.
519
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Little later on.
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I don't I don't I don't understand how you can't
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have a fighter who three punches get thrown from his opponent,
522
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he turns away, he kneels down, You start to count,
523
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and then you abandon the count for no apparent reason.
524
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It is no there is no explain there is no explanation.
525
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What are we doing here? All right?
526
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So we covered that one, and hopefully we get a
527
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rematch maybe later this summer.
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That'll have a lot more build up. I don't know
529
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how quick it'll be.
530
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Remember Tank Davis, Tank Tank Davis kept saying I'm gonna
531
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fight three times in twenty twenty five.
532
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Well, let's get busy, let's talk right later.
533
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I don't think either guy came away with any kind
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of injuries of any kind of significance or anything whatsoever.
535
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There'd be zero reason why this fight could not happen
536
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this summer.
537
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Yes, run it back. Can we have good things? So
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now we go to the undercard, and here's a word
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for the co feature win by Gary Antoine Russell against
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Reo Valenzuela, who's a Valezuela for the WBA Junior Welterway
541
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title domination. He dominated that fight. I did not see
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that coming. I thought Valanzuela would win much less, and
543
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I think Valenzuela would barely be able to get around
544
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off of Gary Antoine Russell.
545
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Why was Russell so good? From what you saw while
546
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we're in the recapt.
547
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Listen, I think that he took it seriously, I thought,
548
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I don't think. I think he wasn't necessarily as amped up.
549
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Let's say, for what happened in his previous fight against
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Alberto Puyo, when he lost a split decision, and you
551
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could argue that he certainly won the fight, it was
552
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very close, but he did not fight with that kind
553
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of tenacity, with that kind of conditioning, with with that
554
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kind of purpose, and that that's important when you have
555
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the purpose, and he really obviously was in great condition
556
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for this fight. He came out against a fighter that
557
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did not he did. Reo Valenswoeld did not do what
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he does best. He tried to box with Gary Antoine
559
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Russell rather than fight with him, and I thought that
560
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was a terrible strategic error because he's just not that
561
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kind of boxer. He'd have been much better off if
562
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he went and let it all hang out and tried
563
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to get the guy and done some damage in that manner.
564
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While he never let he never let Valonzuela breathe from
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the opening bell, he kept a massive pace. He threw
566
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a million punches, lots of jabs had him off balance.
567
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You know, he was moving, he was making a miss.
568
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Valonzuela could never get on track with anything offensively the
569
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entire fight. Literally, not one I was a one real
570
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solid punch that you could say was like game changing
571
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:22.279
or anything. And even if he landed a few punches,
572
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which obviously he's a professional fighter. He landed some punches,
573
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but they were one at a time. There was no
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combination punching. This was a masterpiece from Gary Russell. I
575
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mean it was. I thought it was an entertaining fight
576
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to watch on the pay per view, even though it
577
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was totally one sided. I'm actually pissed off that two
578
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.680
of the judges gave Valonzuela a single round. I thought
579
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it was twelve to zero without even a shadow of
580
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a doubt. Two of the judges gave it eleven rounds
581
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to one. One did one judge, Tom Shrek did have
582
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it twelve to zero. Valonzuela was massively disappointing. You want
583
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to talk about the highs and the lowest. In August,
584
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he beats Pitbull Cruise by split decision in a very
585
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good fight to win this title. In his first fight
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move up to one hundred and forty pounds, he makes
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his first defense against Gary Russell. Was coming off of
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a loss and he doesn't even compete and so Gary
589
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Russell tremendous victory. I mean, he had been, in my opinion,
590
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a massively talented fighter, but was wasting his career because
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he was fighting once a year as a pretty young
592
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fighter relatively speaking. He's twenty eight now, but he's been
593
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a professional a long time. He was an Olympian. You
594
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got to go all the way back to twenty sixteen.
595
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The guy's been a pro since twenty seventeen. Early twenty seventeen,
596
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he's only got nineteen fights. I mean, that is just
597
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not any kind of activity.
598
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Let me tell you what, my brother, My initial reaction
599
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was great performance by him, and I believe this.
600
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I firmly believe this.
601
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As we sit here on March the second, we're not
602
00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:46.640
going to see him again the rest of the year.
603
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He won't fight.
604
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The rest of the year, he won't fight against anybody,
605
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because that's that's what is that's what his brother did,
606
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and I believe that's the mentality of I just made
607
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whatever he made. I have no idea what he made,
608
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but I got to believe in a co feature fight
609
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he made hundreds of thousands of dollars. He may have
610
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made a million dollars, but I don't know that. We'll
611
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:06.359
see him the rest of the year. I will be
612
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the first one to say I am shocked. If Gary
613
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Russell's fighting Antoine Russell is fighting in like October November,
614
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I hope I will apologize.
615
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I will say I'm shocked. Don't hold here's publisher.
616
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:22.400
There's good fights for him. The most obvious fight for
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him is Alberto Poeyo, who is the WBC champ barely
618
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:27.920
want to split decision against him in the last time out,
619
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:30.480
which was at the time an interim title. He won,
620
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:36.559
that elevated when Haney became franchise and vacated, he became
621
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:39.000
the champ, and we'll talk about it. Defended the title
622
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on this undercard. That's an easy PBC fight to make.
623
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.839
That's a very solid matchup. There's history, there's a story,
624
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.480
it's a unification, and it seems logical, and uh, we'll
625
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:49.880
see if they follow through with the logic.
626
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:51.119
Let's hope that it is.
627
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But I mean again, with Gary Russell Junior, his older
628
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:56.960
brother who's now his trainer, he would fight once a
629
00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:58.240
year and that was it.
630
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Just remember one thing that the brother are not the
631
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:01.119
same person.
632
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:03.400
I understand the brothers are not the same person, but
633
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:06.359
the mentality is the same. I got my dollars. I
634
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:09.000
don't have to fight, and that's what we've seen. And
635
00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:11.039
so now stay tuned, all right, So now move on
636
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.279
to PLAYO because I must confess I did not watch
637
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:18.599
the Albert Puoyo Sander Martin fight, but Poyo did win.
638
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:21.880
Did I miss much to uh to keep his WBC
639
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:23.400
well forty time?
640
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:24.880
Did I miss much? What did I missed? I missing?
641
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:26.279
I had said in the build up to this fight
642
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:28.000
that I thought this was it was a it was
643
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:29.680
a fine fight, a reasonable fight to make. It was
644
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:31.920
a mandatory fight, and it was a deserving mandatory kind
645
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:35.119
of fight. Sander Martinez earned the opportunity. But I figured,
646
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:37.599
knowing and having watched both of these guys fight plenty
647
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.599
of times, I just felt like style wise would not
648
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:43.000
be a very appealing fight for the crowd. It was okay,
649
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:45.880
But because I had zero expectations. It actually was a
650
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.400
lot better than I'd expected. So does that make it good? Yeah?
651
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:50.079
It wasn't terrible. I mean it was it was not.
652
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:52.559
It wasn't on the level of a lot of you know,
653
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:54.880
top notch fights that we have seen. It wasn't even
654
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:57.599
as good as Antoine Russell against Balezuela, which may have
655
00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:59.079
been one side of it was still good to watch,
656
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:01.799
but Po and they put on a much better show
657
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:03.680
than I expected. So tip of the hat to those guys.
658
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:06.920
It was really close. Payo won a split decision. He
659
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:09.799
won one fifteen, one thirteen and one sixteen, one to twelve,
660
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:11.880
and one judge had it one fifteen to one thirteen
661
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:14.000
in favor of Martin. I thought Sander Martin won by
662
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:15.920
the same score, seven rounds to five. It was that
663
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:18.759
kind of fight. There was a decent action. I thought
664
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.319
that Pueo, he was a little bit taller and longer
665
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.119
than Martin, and it was very frustrating because he kept
666
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.359
trying to come inside and he kept smothering himself. He
667
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:27.480
didn't you. All you had to do was take a
668
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:30.000
step back and give himself a chance to extend his punches,
669
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.480
and he never really did that, but look, it was
670
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:34.799
a very close fight. You could have either gone either way.
671
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.359
Martino is going to be the guy that feels aggrieved
672
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:41.319
because he's got two really close split decision losses in
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00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:43.759
New York. This fight for a title. If you go
674
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:46.160
back a couple of years ago, he was in Madison
675
00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:47.920
Square Guard and he lost in a ten rounder. This
676
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:51.160
is before Tafimo Lopez became the champion. He lost a
677
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.039
very close decision, split decision to tia Fimo. We knocked
678
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:55.680
t Fimo down in that fight. He didn't get it.
679
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:57.680
So his perspective is what the heck do I have
680
00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:00.680
to do to win a fight in New York against
681
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:03.480
one of these other top guys. But hopefully he'll be back.
682
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:05.319
He's still a very talented guy, even if he's a
683
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little maddening to watch at times and pueo. You know,
684
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:09.799
this is set up on a tee for him to have,
685
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:13.000
hopefully a unification with Gary Russell Gary Antoine Russell, who
686
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:14.720
now has one of the other titles in the weight class.
687
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:16.680
Like I said, they're both with BBC. Should be a
688
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:19.079
fight they can make. I don't see him getting an
689
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opportunity at any time in the future against Richardson Hitchins,
690
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.839
who's the IBM champion, tiafi Ma Lopez's schedule has already
691
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:27.160
you know, taken up with what he's going to be
692
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:29.960
doing next, as we all know, and so what else
693
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:31.519
is there out there for him? And by the way,
694
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he does not have a mandatory do next. He is
695
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:36.559
in an optional period now where he doesn't have to
696
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:38.480
fight a mandatory in his next fight. So they easily
697
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.240
could make the Antoine Russell fight if they all decide
698
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:41.599
to do that.
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00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:44.559
You are more optimistic than I am that Antoine Gary
700
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Antoine Russell will want to have that fight this calendar
701
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:50.640
year again. I will happily apologize later this year if
702
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that's the case, and we'll talk more about Suprio Matias
703
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.160
winning the IBF eliminator in a few moments, but just
704
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.920
finish up on the card because Jonis Taez and Jay
705
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.359
Rock Williams that I saw some of that, some highlights
706
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:08.400
of that as well. You know, Jay Rock hits and
707
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:10.680
gets and gets hit. There's no mystery we know that.
708
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:12.799
But you know that Tayaz has been one of my
709
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:14.880
favorite prospects for the last couple of years. I thought
710
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.960
he looked really, really good. This was a big step
711
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.279
up for him. You know, Julian Williams may not be
712
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:21.400
what he was when he was the Unified champion and
713
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.920
he had scored some good wins and was knocking guys out,
714
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.799
but so he may not be at that level anymore,
715
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.240
but he's still, you know, a litmus test for a
716
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:31.559
young fighter that only had not nine fights going into
717
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:34.240
the fight and not a lot of experience. He'd fought
718
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.720
some good opponents, but nobody on the level of a
719
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:40.200
former champ like Williams and Jonas Teez. The kid is
720
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:41.960
the goods. He's I've been saying it from the time
721
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:44.759
I first watched him. I have massive respect for Ronnie Shields,
722
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:47.039
his trainer, who I've known for a very very long time,
723
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:49.440
and he told me a couple of years ago, keep
724
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:51.039
an eye on Taz. He's the real deal, and he's
725
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.480
showing it because he looked tremendous. He went out there
726
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.599
and he won easily, won nineteen one oh nine, one, seventeen,
727
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.319
one eleven, one, eighteen one ten. Basically, Julian Williams came
728
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.240
out and won the first round without a question. He
729
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:03.160
won the first round in all three score cards, and
730
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:04.799
then Taya has dominated the rest of the fight. Maybe
731
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:06.720
a judge scored one round here, one round there, but
732
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.279
he totally dominated the fight. He out punched him, out
733
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:12.000
muscled him, he outfought and me out He out slicked him,
734
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.799
He landed quicker, sharper punches, and it was a great
735
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.799
learning experience for him. He does win with his victory
736
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:21.240
the WBA's interim title at one fifty four and I
737
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.160
know we laugh and snicker about the interim titles, and
738
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.440
they deserve to have our derision, but this is one
739
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:27.279
of those cases where actually he's going to mean something,
740
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:29.880
most likely because the reigning champion of the WBA at
741
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:32.279
one hundred and fifty four pounds is Terrence Crawford, and
742
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:34.720
Terrence Crawford is most likely never fighting in the one
743
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:37.519
hundred and fifty four pound division again, certainly not in
744
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:39.759
the near future, because he's got business, most likely in
745
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:43.640
September against Terrence Crawford, I mean against us Canelo Alcohols
746
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.279
at one hundred and sixty eight pounds. So that will
747
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.519
make once he vacates that title, that will take yo
748
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:51.039
nsts and will boost him from the interim champion of
749
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:54.880
the WBA to the full champion. That's inevitable in my opinion.
750
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:58.079
All Right, so a big win for Taz and then
751
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.599
also on the card, you want to mention another win,
752
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.359
This was Johann Gonzalez beating Jared Heard.
753
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:05.759
And really I'm really mentioning the loss, not the win.
754
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:08.480
And you you've mentioned this before, that Heard and you
755
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:11.039
were you were, I think putting on social media here
756
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:13.440
that Heard is just a shell of what he was
757
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.119
and that's a shame. And he basically in the ring
758
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:16.960
said that's it.
759
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:18.400
I am done well.
760
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:20.359
He had said before if he couldn't win against a
761
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.559
caliber fighter like Joan Gonzalez, who was basically journeyman, but
762
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:25.920
you know, he comes to fight, but if you're if
763
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.480
you've got some level of world class talent, you should
764
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:31.880
beat him. And Jared Hurd said I would retire if
765
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.039
I didn't win the fight. And he went out there
766
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:36.000
and look, they called the split decision, which to me
767
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:37.880
was ridiculous. He got his ask kick, he lost basically
768
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:39.759
every round. He might have won one or two rounds,
769
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:42.200
but it was a wipeout. Joan Gonzalez, you know, out
770
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:45.359
punched him and had him bloodied up and and swollen up,
771
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:46.920
and you know, just did a number on him. And
772
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:49.519
Jared Heard was at one time for a few years
773
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.039
in the junior middleweight division, unquestionably the number one fighter
774
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.000
in the way class. He was a unified champion, He
775
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.880
was the winner of of some some incredibly action pack fights,
776
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:00.440
and those types of fights, unfortunately they take their toll.
777
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.640
He go back to two thousand and eighteen and I
778
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:07.759
was ringside for this fight, spectacular war against Arizlonti Laara
779
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:10.320
in a unification fight that took place what was at
780
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:12.880
the time called the Hard Rock in Las Vegas. And
781
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:16.559
he was he needed, you know that his corner thought
782
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:17.880
he was winning the fight, and he wasn't going to
783
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:20.000
listen to the corner. I've told the story. He said,
784
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:21.800
forget about it. He went out there and he fought
785
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.280
his ass off. In the twelfth round, he scored a
786
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:26.000
knockdown against Laara in the twelfth round, and lo and behold,
787
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:27.760
he wins a split decision, and if he doesn't get
788
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.360
the knockdown, he doesn't win the split decision. So that
789
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:32.559
was a spectacular fight, twenty eighteen fight of the year.
790
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:35.599
But he had some other tremendous fights, you know, just
791
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.800
one one battle after another. And like I said, it
792
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:39.960
takes its toll, and he had a couple of injuries
793
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:41.800
and he's never really been the same since roughly like
794
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:44.400
twenty eighteen, so it's been kind of a long slide.
795
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:47.519
He had moved up to middle eight and he's lost now,
796
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:49.599
you know, with the loss that he took the other night,
797
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.880
He's now lost three of his last five with one win,
798
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:56.320
three losses and one draw. And you know, time waits
799
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:58.039
for no man in boxing. And I'm glad he called
800
00:34:58.039 --> 00:34:59.920
it a call out a day. He's a good dude,
801
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.559
he's a nice guy, had a heck of a career
802
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:03.920
and there's no reason that he needs to keep getting
803
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.320
beat up. And I've told this story before. I do
804
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.000
have a special place in my heart for Jared Hurd
805
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:10.559
because on the night that he won the world title,
806
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:13.760
the vacant IBF title in Birmingham, Alabama, on a Deontay
807
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:16.639
Wilder undercart, he knocked out Tony Harrison in the ninth round.
808
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:19.199
And Jared lives not too far from where I live
809
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:21.960
in Northern Virginia. He lives in Maryland, right over the river,
810
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.000
probably twenty minutes from where I live, half an hour
811
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:26.840
where I live, so Anyway, we're both flying back to Washington,
812
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:28.519
d C. After that fight, and I was in the
813
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.960
van within that morning at like five am, and we
814
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:33.440
got our bags and we're sitting in the van and
815
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:35.639
we're on the way to the airport and Jared heard
816
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:38.440
is wearing the belt on his treet clothes in the van.
817
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:40.599
It was one of the most endearing things I've ever
818
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:43.320
seen in my career. He was so proud that he
819
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:44.880
is wearing the belt. And it was kind of interesting
820
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:46.519
because a lot of times you get the belt, you
821
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:48.079
don't actually keep the belt. You got to give it
822
00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:50.519
back because the other guy you borrowed it for the pictures,
823
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:52.800
and then the organization sends you the title, sends you
824
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:54.880
the belt. But they were fighting for a vacant title,
825
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:56.599
so the belt was there and whoever win it got
826
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:58.239
to take it home. So we got to travel with
827
00:35:58.280 --> 00:35:59.679
the belt any war to the airport.
828
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:01.639
I love. Presumably he had to take it off for
829
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:03.559
the X ray machine, but other than that, he wasn't
830
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:05.519
taking the belt off. Probably from the night before he
831
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:06.320
wasn't taking the belt.
832
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.159
But it's just you know, look, people we laugh about
833
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:09.559
the belts and all that, and we bitch and moan
834
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.079
about the the regulars and the interims, and I get that,
835
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.440
and I'm totally into that. But for the athlete themselves, now,
836
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.639
in this case there was a full IBF title, fine,
837
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:20.199
but it means some of them, it's the tangible evidence
838
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:23.360
of their hard work and the blood. And Jared Hurt
839
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:25.360
had a heck of a career and I wish him
840
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:26.559
good luck in his retirement.
841
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:27.719
All right.
842
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.440
So that was a bunch on the PBC on Prime
843
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.079
and you got a lot for your money there with
844
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:35.440
what we were just talking about and discussing, including the
845
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:37.280
tank roach controversy.
846
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:39.360
All right.
847
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:43.000
So also you mentioned Subrio Matias. Let's just cover that
848
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:47.280
real quick. He won in Puerto Rico the Dezone Salida
849
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:51.360
Promotions fight on Saturday night in Fajardo, Puerto Rico, winning
850
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:56.760
the IBF one and forty pound eliminator. He beat Gabriel Valenzuela,
851
00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:00.000
a different Valenzuela in a fight that was a competitive,
852
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:02.840
if back and forth fight. Valan Zuela had a cut
853
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:05.679
over the eye that they kept examining him. Mattias wore
854
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.360
him down Dan and eventually knocked him down, and the
855
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:13.079
referee waved the fight off with Valenzuela bleeding and obviously
856
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:16.119
hurt in the eighth round. So Mattias gets a good
857
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:18.960
bounce back win for him and that sets up what
858
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:21.159
you referred to in the one hundred and forty pound division,
859
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.760
him and Richardson Hitchins. Looks like that's the logical fight
860
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:27.360
next for another piece of the junior Walter White crown.
861
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:28.840
It's not a matter of logical, it's a matter of
862
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:30.519
that he's now the mandatory. That was by the way,
863
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.199
it was not a bounce back win. That was his
864
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:33.960
second win in a row. If you remember that. In May,
865
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:36.840
I mean sorry, June of last year, he was upset
866
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.280
in Puerto Rico and lost the title to Liam Paro.
867
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:41.679
That was considered a major upset. Paro then went on
868
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.280
and lost that title to Richardson Hitchins. In the meantime,
869
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:47.639
you have surreal Matias coming back in Puerto Rico back
870
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:50.880
in November, scored a second round knockout against a less
871
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:53.559
than stellar Roberto Ramirez and what everybody sort of figured
872
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:55.239
it was a wipeout, which it turned out to be.
873
00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:58.559
He steps up a little bit against balin Zuela, a
874
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:01.440
fight that I thought he would win, you know, by knockout.
875
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.039
He did do that. It was a tougher fight than
876
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:06.320
the Ramirez fight, but he got the job done. He
877
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:09.360
makes good fights. He's a big puncher. I'm not sure
878
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:11.320
how much he's got left at this stage of his career,
879
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:13.880
but the fact is he is now in the position
880
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.800
to challenge Hitchens in a mandatory fight, and we'll see
881
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:20.679
if that actually takes place. It very well may because
882
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:23.079
there had been some conversations that Hitchins might be fighting
883
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:25.239
t Femo Lopez next, but that won't be the next
884
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:27.840
fight for Tia Femo, so Hitchins is now available to
885
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.000
do the mandatory We'll see if they can make a deal.
886
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:32.280
And that's an interesting fight also because he got that.
887
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:35.360
We all know there's nothing fancy with with Subril Mattias.
888
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.800
He's a bomber. He comes to straight ahead and take
889
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.760
your head off. Hitchins, you know, is a solid offensive
890
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:43.199
fighter also, but he's really a great boxer in terms
891
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.280
of his movement and placing his punches and being smart
892
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:48.239
with where he throws and how he throws, and that
893
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:50.719
that's going to be I believe could be a much
894
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:53.840
of a technical nightmare for a fighter like Sabril Matigaz,
895
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:55.400
who has trouble with that type of style.
896
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:57.480
All right, so stay tuned. He did what he was
897
00:38:57.519 --> 00:38:59.679
supposed to do. But wait, there's more.
898
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:03.159
And controversy was not exclusive to the Barclay Center in Brooklyn,
899
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:06.559
New York. It was also in Belfast, Northern Ireland again
900
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.920
for the main event on the Matchroom de Own Show,
901
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:14.280
where Paddy Donovan was dominating the IBF one hundred and
902
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.880
forty seven pound eliminator was getting the better of Lewis
903
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:21.519
Crocker had hurt Crocker. Crocker was fighting back some but
904
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:25.440
he had hurt him, and then there was a here
905
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:27.599
we go with the referee again. Then there was a
906
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.760
moment where Donovan got a point taken away because of
907
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:35.239
head butts. And then at the end of the round
908
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:40.320
he has Crocker hurt the bell rings and it's a
909
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:42.800
late punch. It's a late punch that he hits Crocker
910
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:46.320
with Crocker is down, Crocker's holding his left eye and
911
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:51.400
the referee disqualifies Paddy Donovan, who's clearly in command in
912
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:54.159
the fight. And this is rare where you see a
913
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:58.119
fighter crying on all fours in the ring. It was
914
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:01.880
some serious real life drama in the ring in Belfast
915
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:03.519
on this DQ Dan Rayphiel.
916
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:05.400
It's not every day that we see this kind of stuff.
917
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:08.679
It was crazy if it wasn't for Steve Willis and
918
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:11.480
the shambalicness of what happened in New York on the
919
00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:15.079
Tank Davis and Lamont roach card. Marcus McDonald will be
920
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:18.360
mister Shambalack of the weekend because he handled this fight
921
00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:21.320
like a fucking hand grenade terribly. I thought, yes, a
922
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:24.960
mess now he had first of all, it was first
923
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:26.840
things first, one side or not. It was good. It
924
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:29.519
was a very good fun fight. Though crowd in Belfast
925
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:31.760
was going nuts. I I really enjoyed this fight. I
926
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:34.400
watched it in the afternoon before all the uh the
927
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:36.559
stuff from New York City with the with the Tank card.
928
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:39.960
Marcus McDonald did a ship job in this fight, and
929
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:40.199
I'm not.
930
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:43.639
We've talked about him before, Eric talked about him before,
931
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:44.639
but go ahead elaborate.
932
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:47.320
So he took a point for a head buddy in
933
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:50.480
the sixth round, which I didn't think was a warranted
934
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:55.880
uh point deduction. But okay, now Donovan is winning the fight. Handling.
935
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:58.159
Crocker is a good fighter, but not on the same
936
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.320
level as Donovan in my opinion, donnod it was the
937
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:02.880
big prospect, the rising guy, even though Crocker was undefeated.
938
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:05.760
But good Irish fight. The crowd's going crazy and they're
939
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.000
making a fun fight. And again their stakes here because
940
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:11.199
it's an eliminator, you know, for a world title, so
941
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:13.079
that's a big deal for any of these guys. It's
942
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.159
an IBF one hundred and forty seven pounds elimination fight.
943
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:17.599
So the winner is going to be in the mandatory
944
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:19.960
position for the belt that is currently held by Bootennis.
945
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.599
But obviously Ennis is having the unification with a man
946
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.800
to Staniona, So the winner of this fight is supposed
947
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:27.559
to be the mandatory for the winner of that fight
948
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:31.159
that will take place shortly meantime. Paddy Donovan, like I said,
949
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:33.039
he's kicking his ass. He's winning the fight. He's even
950
00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:34.760
with the point the ducks and he's still winning, you know,
951
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:38.239
very very clearly. Now the eighth round comes around, he
952
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:40.320
gets another point taken away for a head butt, which
953
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:42.280
was the one of the worst calls I've seen. They
954
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.119
both had their heads on each other, there was no intent.
955
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:48.400
It was absolutely an accidental headbutt and both guys were
956
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:52.199
doing it, and Marcus McDonald took a point, but after
957
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.400
the fight resumed, Paddy Donovan is now kicking Lewis Crocker's
958
00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:57.559
ass is about to knock him out. He knocks him
959
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:01.559
down with a big shot and he barely survives. And
960
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.519
I'm like, Okay, this fight's about to be over. And
961
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:09.800
what happens the referee. I mean, they're they're fighting at
962
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:13.519
you know, in close, and they're both roaring it. Yeah,
963
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:16.760
the clock is ticking down and the bell ends to
964
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.760
end the round. And yes, he threw a light punch
965
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.599
after the bell. Whether we can have a conversation whether
966
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:24.159
he did it on purpose or not. I don't believe
967
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:26.719
he did it on purpose. And it wasn't like Crocker
968
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:30.159
reacted to the bell either, and he threw it a
969
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.239
beat after the bell. It was after the bell, There's
970
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:34.639
no doubt about it. But it did not, in my opinion,
971
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:36.000
based on the way I watch it and see in
972
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:39.199
the replace, did not rise to the level of a disqualification.
973
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:41.800
I think Marcus McDonald woke up on the wrong side
974
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:43.679
of the bed and was at the fuck somebody that day.
975
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:44.559
As the bottom line.
976
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:45.920
There's another F word.
977
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:48.639
I was just gonna draw the comparison to the morele
978
00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:51.679
Benavetez late punch at the end of the eleventh round
979
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:55.159
in Las Vegas, and you were there ringside for that.
980
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:57.960
That to me was more blatant than this one on
981
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.239
Saturday night. Yes, it was late, and I understand late
982
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:03.360
at the end of the round I'm talking about. I
983
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:07.079
understand the argument is too. We're hearing it differently on
984
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.880
the TV audio. When the bell rings, I don't know,
985
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:13.639
We're not there. We weren't there. Marcus McDonald could well
986
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:15.719
could the fighters hear it over the crowd?
987
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:16.880
Could McDonald hear it?
988
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:20.440
McDonald clearly heard the bell. You could tell if you
989
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:23.119
watch the fight. He definitely heard the bell. Whether Crocker
990
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:28.159
and and Donovan did is still I don't know. But
991
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:30.280
even if even if he felt like he's in the
992
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:33.159
sequence of throwing a punch that happens, it was not
993
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:36.000
even if he heard the bell. That's not the kind
994
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:38.679
of thing you're gonna dque a guy with, especially when
995
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:41.559
you know he's been kicking the other guy's ass, had
996
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:43.880
him down earlier in the round, and you could have
997
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.480
maybe taken a point away. Maybe you could say it's
998
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:48.440
a purposeful. You could have taken two points, but to
999
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.960
disqualify him in that position was absolutely bush league Marcus
1000
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.480
and McDonald needs to go. He's he did a worse job.
1001
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:55.880
So you're now with me.
1002
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:57.519
He did work with me.
1003
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:01.159
You got to take action on these guys. If they
1004
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:02.480
continue to do this.
1005
00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:06.719
Has the market. McDonald has a long track for does
1006
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:07.559
not correct.
1007
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:10.400
So let's see if the British Boxing Board of Control
1008
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:13.360
does something about that, because clearly Eddie Hearn in the
1009
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:16.639
ring was saying, we're protesting. This is a horrible, horrible
1010
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:17.719
decision by the referee.
1011
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.119
Ed he's got both guys, so he's got a walk
1012
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:21.599
of fine line.
1013
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:23.519
But he said, but he said, this is you know,
1014
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:26.719
Crocker obviously deserved better than this. Even if you take
1015
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:29.079
another point away and warn him, if you do anything
1016
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:30.639
else then I'm going to disqualify you.
1017
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:31.840
But instead it's a dq.
1018
00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:36.280
On that and I've I've seen this in the past
1019
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.199
and they did not do this where the referee will
1020
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:42.320
go ahead and count and if the fighter cannot get
1021
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:44.199
up because of the count and the bell did ring.
1022
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:47.079
But if the fighter cannot get up, then you have
1023
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:49.400
more of an out to say you did that after
1024
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:52.320
the round and I counted him out and now I'm
1025
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.039
going to dq you for what you did. He didn't
1026
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:59.039
do that, Dan on Saturday. M uh the referee.
1027
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:01.519
Uh just it ruined a good fight. It was a
1028
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:05.239
mess and and Patty Donovan got robbed. In my opinion,
1029
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:07.800
they're probably gonna do a rematch, you know, we'll see,
1030
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:10.079
but again, it shouldn't come to that. It should not
1031
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:11.760
come to that the same way. You know, if they're
1032
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:14.800
gonna do a tank rematch with Roach, it should be
1033
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:17.039
because either he's got a rematch clause or it's such
1034
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:18.800
a good fight that's what the public demands, and not
1035
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:20.920
because Lamont Roach got screwed out of a win.
1036
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:23.360
I'm with you, all right, let's still a little news
1037
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:26.039
and then some good nostalgia here on the pod.
1038
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:29.599
So we left the air and there had not been an.
1039
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:31.480
Official announcement, but while we were on the bet Us
1040
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:35.679
Boxing Show, the announcement actually came Friday afternoon, officially May
1041
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:39.800
second pay per view triple header READD season US card.
1042
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:44.519
Not because the seasons, no no, no, no, no, no, let
1043
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:46.239
me talk. It is not in anything to do with
1044
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:48.719
the reac season. It is branded. It's a ring magazine,
1045
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:49.360
the Ring.
1046
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.599
What are they calling it with the the comics.
1047
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:55.360
It's the video game, but it's the Ring magazine branded event.
1048
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:57.000
So the ring event, not the reat season event. I
1049
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.719
stand corrected. Triple header Times Square. We knew this because
1050
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:02.519
you had reported this and it had been talked about
1051
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:07.119
that it's Ryan Garcia back against Roly Romero, who we
1052
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:08.880
talked about on the wrong end of a KO loss
1053
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:12.719
to Gervonte Davis last week. And Devin Haney against Jose Ramirez.
1054
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:15.760
Those are essentially are they calling it like co main
1055
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:17.559
events Cole mainz.
1056
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:19.159
Here because they call a triple main event.
1057
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:21.039
Well, okay, but because the belief is those two were
1058
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:24.000
going to fight each other coming up Garcia and Hane
1059
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:25.559
May if they're both victorious, go ahead.
1060
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:27.519
They have a deal in place where they're fighting. This
1061
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:32.360
interim bouts Orlando Romero against Ryan Garcia ridiculously for the
1062
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.840
vacant WBA regular welterweight title that Ryan Garcia after a
1063
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:41.280
drug suspension, and the antics leading into the first Devan
1064
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:42.800
Any fight gets to fight for some caliber of by
1065
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.840
world title whatever. Hani will fight Jose Ramirez, the former
1066
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:48.760
unified junior welterweight title. There they are both moving up
1067
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:51.360
to welterweight for this fight, and they already have a
1068
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:53.360
deal in place where if they both win, they are
1069
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:55.920
going to fight in Saudi Arabia in the fall. And
1070
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:58.159
remember when this card, when Turkey first put out, he
1071
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.519
didn't put out the details of the specific of the date,
1072
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:03.239
just may or the location specifically in New York it
1073
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:05.599
was supposed to be on. The third fight was the
1074
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:09.480
heavyweight eliminator for the IVF between Faa Jaga and Martin Bocolei,
1075
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:11.719
but we all know what happened with Martin Boccoley the
1076
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:13.840
ib of Bouncton out of the eliminator because he went
1077
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:15.880
to Saudi Arabia and got knocked the fuck out by
1078
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:18.119
Joe Parker, So that took that fight off the table,
1079
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:20.599
and they were talking about having Tia Fimo Lopez do
1080
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:24.079
this cockamami fight on Alcatraz, which I thought was bizarre
1081
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.480
in the first place. But now that there's no heavyweight
1082
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:29.119
fight with Boccoli and Faa Jaga on that card for
1083
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:31.760
an eliminator, Tifa Mo Lopez is going to be on
1084
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:33.880
there now. He is still with top rank, but they've
1085
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:36.400
done a three fight deal with Turkey and this will
1086
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:38.519
be the first fight of that deal. So tia Fimo
1087
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:41.199
will make a defense of the WBO in the lineal
1088
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:44.599
title against his WBO mandatory, which is Arnold Barbosa, who
1089
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:49.320
recently won that significant fight so against Jack Catterrell. So
1090
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:51.559
he's going to have this opportunity to fight for the title.
1091
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:53.599
And that's the trip letter. So you got three really
1092
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:56.559
top names, you know as the A sides, three guys
1093
00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:59.679
who are going to be certainly underdogs, but they're good
1094
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:03.039
names also in those on those B side slots. And
1095
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:06.400
they're gonna do this outside in Times Square. Supposedly we'll
1096
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:08.679
see how they how they situated. But that even the
1097
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:12.000
bigger news in that was that probably just half an
1098
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.800
hour before we started taping the show, they posted on
1099
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:20.039
the Ring magazine social media platforms on the Instagram, there
1100
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:22.960
was a photograph of Turkey al Chic, who was in
1101
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:25.320
New York, you know, because they've got the press conference
1102
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:27.719
for this fight coming up on Tuesday, and then I
1103
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:29.599
believe on Thursday they're gonna have another one for Canelo
1104
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.320
Alvarez and William Skull. So he's in New York City.
1105
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:34.639
He met and he took a picture with Jim Lampley
1106
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:36.679
and then there was a video Jim Lampley will be
1107
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:39.039
the voice of the of this particular card. He will
1108
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:41.440
call the action for this trip letter ob his first
1109
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.480
time behind the mic doing a fight since HBO went
1110
00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:46.639
off the air at the end of twenty eighteen. You know,
1111
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:49.159
there was a he flirted with doing fights with Triller
1112
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:51.559
and had a contract, but the fights never actually happened.
1113
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:54.639
In coincidentally, was supposed to be for one of the
1114
00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:57.559
Ta Fimo Lopez fights against Cambosis, but you all know
1115
00:48:57.639 --> 00:48:59.920
the story how it ended up with, you know, go
1116
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.119
in a match from boxing because Triller defaulted on the purspit,
1117
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:04.360
et cetera. Anyway, he never ended up doing a fight
1118
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:06.239
with them, So he literally has not called a fight
1119
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:09.440
since twenty eighteen. He's maintained involvement in boxing to some
1120
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:11.360
degree because he's been working with our friends at PPV
1121
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:14.000
dot com. Yeah, doing some stuff for those guys, videos
1122
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:15.760
and the chats on the night of the fights, like
1123
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:18.719
he did over the weekend with Tank Davis and the
1124
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:20.719
Lamont Roach. But to hear Jim back behind the mic,
1125
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:23.159
hey man, hopefully he goes into the training and he
1126
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:24.480
sounds just as good as he always did.
1127
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:28.039
Love it, love having him back. And again you also
1128
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:31.760
have learned and put this on social media. This we
1129
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:33.840
wondered how it's gonna work, but apparently it's gonna be
1130
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:36.559
like a limited ticket event. But I mean, if you're
1131
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:38.559
having it in Times Square, you want the public to
1132
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:40.239
somehow see it, even if it's on like one of
1133
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:42.719
those TVs on one of those big buildings. I think
1134
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:44.000
it's how are they going to do this or what
1135
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:45.079
have we what have we found out?
1136
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:46.920
They haven't announced anything, but I am told that they
1137
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:49.760
because of the location, they can't charge money for tickets
1138
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:52.079
because of where it is. It's not like a stadium,
1139
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.079
there's not it's like in a street. They're gonna have
1140
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:56.719
a law right by law, it's gonna be like invite
1141
00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:58.800
only VIPs or whatever. They'll be of a limited number
1142
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:00.840
of people apparently the be able to go, or maybe
1143
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:03.159
they'll have first come, first serve and people will line up,
1144
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:05.000
but you know, you know, one o'clock in the morning,
1145
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:06.639
you know, before they can get a ticket or something
1146
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:08.400
like that, and they'll have a limited number of folks
1147
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:10.400
and get in from the public like that as well
1148
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:13.719
as invited folks that show up and most people who
1149
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:15.519
are going to see it are gonna watch it. Obviously
1150
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:16.920
they're going to buy the pay per view, But it
1151
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.880
is an interesting concept. You would think they would want
1152
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:23.039
to put this type of card with these names and
1153
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.320
and what's at stake, you know, in a bigger arena
1154
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:28.079
where everybody can see it. But they obviously have their.
1155
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:29.159
Own way gathering attention.
1156
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.400
And again, they could put the video of the fight
1157
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:33.760
up around Times Square on some of the buildings. That
1158
00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:34.960
would be a way to gather attention.
1159
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:38.000
I'm just saying I'm interested to see, like how they
1160
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.800
build it out because you know, obviously've done big events
1161
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:42.840
in Times Square, the ball that drops every New Year's
1162
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.599
even the concerts you know, on different TV shows and
1163
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:48.079
this and that, but they've never had a boxing event
1164
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:49.840
that I'm aware of, So they have to build things out.
1165
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.440
You need a place with your production for your TV.
1166
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.119
You need a place to have whatever fans are going
1167
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:57.159
to be allowed in. Obviously you're going to have some
1168
00:50:57.239 --> 00:50:58.000
media there.
1169
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:02.519
A place that houses the fighters near right dressing rooms.
1170
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:04.639
Right bathrooms, and that kind of stuff to accommodate. He
1171
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:07.400
didn't need a place for the commission to do their business.
1172
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.480
I mean you know, there's and again I'm not saying
1173
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:12.280
they can't do it. I'm just not aware what the
1174
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:17.440
particulars are. But it's clearly a detail heavy, big, big
1175
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:19.280
job to do an event like this in that location.
1176
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:20.400
So we'll learn more.
1177
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:22.480
And you want to clarify too, that this was supposed
1178
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:26.079
to be Fa Jagba and Martin Bocoli. We've explained and
1179
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:29.320
you were explaining the other night off the Bocoli loss.
1180
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:31.840
He's not part of that. But we don't know right now.
1181
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:34.199
Is a Jagba still on the card to be determined?
1182
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:35.679
Maybe maybe not, We don't know.
1183
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:37.800
At this point. It's you know, who knows he's going
1184
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:39.840
to be ordered to fight somebody else in the IBF.
1185
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:42.280
I doubt that will get done before this fight takes place.
1186
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:44.239
All right, So, and again that is Friday night, May
1187
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:47.599
the second, So stay tuned for more of the announce Here's.
1188
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:49.440
What I'm trying to figure it out. Yeah, so if
1189
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:51.480
Turkey Alschic is going to be in New York on
1190
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.159
May second for this card, I would imagine it'll be
1191
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:56.239
in New York because it's the first. You know, it's
1192
00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:57.880
a big deal for him doing a fight in New York.
1193
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:01.079
City in Times Square the first fight card that's branded
1194
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:05.960
Ring Magazine. But on the third he's got Canelo Alvarez
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00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.920
against William Skull. So I mean, I guess it's conceivable,
1196
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:11.000
like the fight ends, and what takes a private jet
1197
00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:13.079
from New York back to Saudi Arabi. I guess it's
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00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:15.360
not out of the rum of possibility, but it'll be
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00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:17.159
interesting to see how that works. And the other thing
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00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:19.320
I have a question about and I don't have an answer.
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00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:20.960
Hopefully i'll find out in this, you know, in the
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00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:23.239
next few days when they do the press conference. Is
1203
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:26.800
remember Ryan Garcia is now returned to train with Eddie
1204
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:30.840
Reinoso was also the trainer for Kenelo Alvarez. I'm trying
1205
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:32.960
to understand how if Eddie is his trainer, how is
1206
00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:35.719
he going to be exact with Ryan Garcia and he's
1207
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:38.480
not leaving Canelo to go to Saudi Arabi by himself.
1208
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:39.880
That's his guy, that's he's been with him for his
1209
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:43.000
whole career. So that's there's some logistics that need to
1210
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:43.800
get figured out there.
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You're wondering.
1212
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:47.800
Maybe you know, they go through the training camp and
1213
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:51.360
then he has whoever the qualified chief second or second
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in command is is maybe with Ryan Garcia.
1215
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But you know the thing is Eddie. Eddie doesn't usually
1216
00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:58.000
keep a big stable, so he usually doesn't have other
1217
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:01.800
assistants that travel. But Vibert Garcia, for example, who's got
1218
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:04.639
a lot of fighters. He has other people that he
1219
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:07.000
works with, like his son for example, who is a
1220
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:10.159
gun handled fighters. Plenty of times when Robert might have
1221
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:12.280
another obligation on it given night and they did the
1222
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:14.599
up the work like that. His father is around to
1223
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:16.760
help out as well, and they have you know, other
1224
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:19.400
assistants too. Freddie Roach has always when these when he
1225
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:21.599
was very busy with guys, he always had like his
1226
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:24.000
second that he could send. For a time it was
1227
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:26.119
Marvin's emodio. At one point there a little while was
1228
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:29.119
Michael Moore. But anyway, I don't think that that Eddie
1229
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:31.280
to my knowledge, doesn't have that guy. So it'll be
1230
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:33.639
interesting to see how they handle this situation between Tank,
1231
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:37.199
I mean not Tank, but Ryan and Canelo fighting within
1232
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:40.280
the span of twenty four hours, but on two super continents.
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00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:43.079
Yeah, a long way away, all right. One more news
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on them.
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The WBC is updating some of its statuses for divisions,
1236
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including they want David Benavitez to get the shot if
1237
00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:56.159
a new un disputed champion Dmitri Beevil For what that's worth.
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00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:59.960
What else is coming out of these announcements of what.
1239
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:03.639
Every every so often, like every quarter usually or thereabouts,
1240
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:06.239
they'll send out, uh a note with update for all
1241
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:08.360
of the divisions. Now, some of the stuff is the same,
1242
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and they start with the preface of what they order
1243
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at the convention that took place in December, and then
1244
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:14.760
they tell you how it played out and what's next. So, uh,
1245
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there was a few divisions where there was a few
1246
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:18.840
things that were updated, uh, you know, not exactly earth
1247
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:21.840
shattering stuff like they updated like you know, Kevin Lorena's
1248
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:25.480
situation for his bridgerweight title. Not huge breaking news necessary,
1249
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:27.960
But in the light heavyweight division, you know now that
1250
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:30.679
the Bevo Better BF fights are over for the time
1251
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:33.760
being and Bibol is now the new undisputed light heavyweight champion.
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The WBC said in their in their missive that that
1253
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Bivol must next fight David Benavitez, who was the interim
1254
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:44.079
champion and the and the mandatory. Now, uh so they
1255
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:47.519
made that that point. Now that's well and good, but
1256
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the problem is a couple of things. One, there might
1257
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:52.519
be a third fight between Better BV and b BOL,
1258
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:55.199
which we'll see what happens with the belts. Maybe it
1259
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:57.880
won't be for undisputed. And even if it's going to
1260
00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:01.079
be for the Belts, I think the WBC forgot or
1261
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:03.840
just decided to cut the line. However they wanted to
1262
00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:06.239
look at it is that when they made the rematch
1263
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:09.599
being Better BVMBVOL, they did so because the IBF mandatory
1264
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:13.079
was up next, which was Michael Eiffert from Germany. He
1265
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:15.400
agreed to a step aside deal. He didn't agree to
1266
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:17.159
a step aside deal for multiple fights. He agreed to
1267
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:19.960
let them do the unification for undisputed. He's supposed to
1268
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:22.119
be the next challenger. Now you may disagree with that,
1269
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:23.639
you may say he doesn't deserve it, you may not
1270
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:25.480
know who he is, but that does not change the
1271
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:27.840
fact that he is the IBF mandatory and he's already
1272
00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.199
taken one step aside deal. So they have to deal
1273
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:32.519
with him, and then that can have to see what's
1274
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:34.599
happening with Better b OF. Now that's not to say
1275
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:36.679
they can't make another deal with Eiffert, pay him money
1276
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:38.920
to stand aside and make the bigger fight with Benavides
1277
00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:41.400
if there's not going to be a bivil better BF
1278
00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:43.480
number three. But the point is just because the WBC
1279
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:45.719
said it, when the updated their status, doesn't mean it
1280
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:48.119
will necessarily take place. And then they went through a
1281
00:55:48.119 --> 00:55:51.599
few other things. They reiterated, for example that with Carlos
1282
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:54.760
A Damas at Middleway getting the draw against Hamsey Sharaz,
1283
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:56.880
they had already said beforehand that he would have to
1284
00:55:56.880 --> 00:55:59.519
do two mandatories. One was Sharaz, because that's the rule.
1285
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:02.079
If you win the vacant belt, he now is obligated
1286
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:05.199
to fight a Russian fighter and named Mariam and Nurstazilov.
1287
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:07.159
We'll see if they can get that going, what that's
1288
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:10.280
going to be like. They announce a title eliminator in
1289
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:13.000
the welterweight division that was rescheduled that had been canceled
1290
00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:15.039
because of a previous injury, which is actually a very
1291
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:18.920
solid fight solo man Sosoko against the mean machine Kavalowskis.
1292
00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:22.000
That's a very interesting fight to make the mandatory in
1293
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:24.840
the WBC welterweight division. So those were just some of
1294
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:28.880
the examples. They also reiterated that if Pueo won the
1295
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:31.159
fight against Sander Martin, which ultimately he did that he
1296
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:33.280
would be allowed to have a voluntary defense, which is
1297
00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:35.440
the reason why perhaps they could make the Gary On
1298
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:38.559
Twin Russell fight. They also made it knowing that Dalton
1299
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:41.559
Smith is now the official mandatory and so he'll get
1300
00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:43.639
an opportunity at some point. He's a very good up
1301
00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:46.239
and coming British fighter, and they went through all the divisions,
1302
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:47.559
but those are the ones. Oh the other thing that
1303
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:50.000
was interesting, and this is not like a big secret,
1304
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:51.599
but they were the first ones that sort of put
1305
00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:53.679
it out there at any kind of official capacity, the
1306
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:56.079
undisputed champion that junior featherweight now you in a way
1307
00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:58.679
everybody knows if you follow knows that they're bringing them
1308
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:00.840
to the United States to fight in his next fight.
1309
00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:03.320
The date for that has been rumored to be May fifth.
1310
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:05.920
They said that's now gonna be May fifth. So they
1311
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:08.559
haven't announced the specifics on the opponents in this net
1312
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:11.199
but they're working to get that squared away. But it's
1313
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:13.679
gonna make for a very very interesting weekend because on
1314
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:17.199
May second, you're gonna have the big show in New
1315
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:20.360
York City. Obviously, with the fights that we were just discussing,
1316
00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:23.400
that's on the on the Friday night on May third,
1317
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:26.440
they're gonna do the fight, uh, you know with Canelo
1318
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:30.920
in uh, and they're gonna have this fight on the
1319
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:33.400
fifth of May, which is Monday, which is the time
1320
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:34.920
that they like to have the fights in Japan.
1321
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:35.800
Uh.
1322
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:38.199
And that this would be a literally on single demayo
1323
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:40.719
in Las Vegas. So it's gonna be a big on
1324
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:42.840
you know. That is interesting, Yeah.
1325
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:46.400
As it comes as it comes about. Okay, Uh, Now
1326
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:47.679
to the nostalgia, and I.
1327
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:49.440
Wouldn't be surprised by the way if if maybe the
1328
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:51.599
BC was jumping the gu little bit and maybe they
1329
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:53.760
ended up making that fight on the fourth on the
1330
00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:57.039
Sunday on Sunday for in a way yeah possibly.
1331
00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:00.840
Unless of course, in a ways maybe fighting out Mexican fighter,
1332
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:02.480
and then it makes some sense maybe to do it
1333
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:04.400
on Monday. But Monday not a great day, especially in
1334
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:08.199
Vegas exactly. So there's a point to be made, all right, nostalgia.
1335
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:12.119
It was twenty five years ago, Monday, March three of
1336
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:16.519
two thousand that Felix Tito Trinidad, who we've talked about
1337
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:19.920
a lot recently here in the nostalgia on the pods
1338
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:22.559
were defeated and we're gonna talk about him here.
1339
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:24.800
He defeated David ree When did we talk about him recently?
1340
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:27.760
We talked about him. You were talking about him about.
1341
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.320
The the Oscar de la Joya fight and the big
1342
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.159
rally by Dale Oajoya and how it related to Dike
1343
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:34.679
Quarte and all of that, and we talked about him
1344
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:36.400
about another fight recently too, something else.
1345
00:58:36.400 --> 00:58:37.760
There was another anniversary with Tito.
1346
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:42.039
There was recent but now Tito defeating David Reid is
1347
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:45.519
twenty five years ago Monday, March third, two thousand. Read
1348
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:49.719
the former US Olympian, the gold medalist, Trinidad won the
1349
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:55.079
WBA middleweight title. Yeah, excuse me, junior middleweight title. So
1350
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:57.960
tell me more about Tito Trinidad in the prime of
1351
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.039
his career, still there in March of.
1352
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:02.920
This is the dead prime of Tito Trinidad. He started
1353
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:07.039
a run that was very historical and impressive. Now he
1354
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:10.360
had defeated controversially so Oscar de la Hoya in September
1355
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:13.480
of nineteen ninety nine to unify two of the welterweight titles.
1356
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:15.559
At the time, it was the biggest non heavyweight pay
1357
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:17.800
per view fight in boxing history. It did one point
1358
00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:20.239
four million buys, and it made Trinidad even a bigger
1359
00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:22.440
star than he was, and obviously Oscar was already a superstar.
1360
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:25.039
And so after that fight was over, he vacated the
1361
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:26.639
titles and he moved up to Jingior Middleway and he
1362
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.239
started what was a three fight reign of terror, as
1363
00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:31.519
I like to call it. It was a very impressive
1364
00:59:31.559 --> 00:59:33.639
three fight run and started with the David Reid fight.
1365
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:35.960
David had won the WBA title. They had moved him
1366
00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:37.760
very quickly because he had the drewpy Island. If you
1367
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:40.480
go back and you can google David Reid Drew Biiland,
1368
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:43.400
you can read all about it. The true yes, but
1369
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:45.599
David was undefeated at the time. He was fourteen to
1370
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:47.559
zero and it was considered a toss up fight. People
1371
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:49.599
weren't sure how Trinidad was going to be at one
1372
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:51.400
hundred and fifty four member Tito, even though he was
1373
00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:53.599
a great fighter, he'd been knocked down several times and
1374
00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:55.800
now you're going in with a much bigger guy. Anyway,
1375
00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:57.519
they did this fight on pay per view. It was
1376
00:59:57.519 --> 01:00:00.440
a Friday night outside at Caesar's Palace, one of the
1377
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:03.280
last fights they did like that through the years, and
1378
01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:06.599
Tito Trinidad. It was a somewhat competitive fight for the
1379
01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:08.599
first six rounds. It was, you know, pretty much a
1380
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:10.679
toss up fight. But in the second half of the fight,
1381
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:16.000
Tito Trinidad put an absolute fucking destructive beating on David Reid.
1382
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:19.079
He didn't stop him, but he did everything other than that.
1383
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:22.920
It was an absolutely devastating performance. He knocked him down
1384
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:25.679
in round seven, He beat him up, He knocked him
1385
01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:28.480
down three times in the eleventh round. He did get
1386
01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:31.199
a point deducted for a low blow in the eleventh round.
1387
01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:33.639
But the thing about this fight, and I always remember this,
1388
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:37.400
on one of those knockdowns, and it's absolutely disgusting, David
1389
01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:39.719
Reid got up and he put his glove to his
1390
01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:41.360
nose and he like blew out his nose because he
1391
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:43.519
had gotten obviously hit. And when I tell you that,
1392
01:00:43.559 --> 01:00:47.639
it was like either brains or snot shilly string shot
1393
01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:50.199
across the ring. It was one of the most disgusting
1394
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:52.719
things I've ever seen. He took such an ass kicking
1395
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:55.760
in that fight. He was never the same. He lost
1396
01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:59.480
lopsided and got absolutely pummeled. And then Trinidad moved on
1397
01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:01.519
and this was the first fight of Trinidad's I covered.
1398
01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:04.519
I had just gotten hired to be the boxing writer
1399
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.159
for a USA Today, but so I did not cover
1400
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:09.840
the Trinidad fight in person, but I watched it knowing
1401
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:12.239
I was going to be writing boxing for USA Day
1402
01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:15.280
starting in a few weeks. So the first fight at
1403
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:17.119
cover was a few months later. He had a mandatory
1404
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:20.639
against Mammadu Tiam who he defeated in three rounds on
1405
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:22.599
a knockout, blew up his eye and stopped him. And
1406
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:24.519
then the third fight of this destructive reign was one
1407
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:27.400
of the great fights. Probably the greatest championship fight in
1408
01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:30.039
junior middleweight history was when he had the unification against
1409
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:33.599
field likex Tito Trinidad against Fernando Vargas and they put
1410
01:01:33.599 --> 01:01:36.079
on an absolute war and he stopped him in round
1411
01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:39.719
number twelve in an amazing, legendary fight. But the David
1412
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:42.760
Reid fight was the first of those three dominating performances
1413
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:44.719
in the one fifty four way class before he went
1414
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:46.800
up and won the middleweight belt against William Joppy. But
1415
01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:50.320
the David Reid fight was a spectacular, spectacular performance. And
1416
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:52.519
by the way, when he beat David Reid, he had
1417
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:55.239
defeated another Olympic gold medalist. His previous fight, he had
1418
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:58.159
defeated the Olympic gold medalist Oscar de la Hoya, and
1419
01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:01.000
two fights before that he had defeated the Olympic gold
1420
01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:03.440
medalist Prono Whinaker. So that's a pretty good run. The
1421
01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:05.840
Puerto Rican work on the American gold medalist.
1422
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:08.199
Yes, he had a lot of success against them. And
1423
01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:11.960
again that was twenty five years ago. Wow on that
1424
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:15.320
all right, So back up to Saturday for March. First,
1425
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:18.679
come forward eight years March first, two thousand and eight.
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That is Vasquez Marquez three, the two thousand and eight
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fight of the year, again the first day of March,
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with nine more months to go. It was the fight
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of the year as Israel Vasquez won the decision and
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retained the WBC Junior Featherweight title. Memorable, memorable series of fights,
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including this third one.
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Tell me more, well, they had four fights. We kind
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of disavowed the fourth one, which would never have happened.
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That was a terrible mismatch at that time because it
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just at that point, you know, Vasquez was just a
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shove himself. And of course we know that Israel Basque
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has recently passed away, and you know, there was a
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lot of love and a lot of stuff, but this
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was really this was the signature win probably of his
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entire career. Now, they had fought three times in a row.
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They had fought the first fight in March of two
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thousand and seven and Israel Vasquez you know, suffered a
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broken nose and got stopped in the seventh round. That
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was a WBC one hundred and twenty two pound world
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title fight that he you know lost. He lost the title.
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They had an immediate rematch five months later and that
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was a six round knock that were avenged the loss
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and he regained the title. That was a spectacular fight. Now,
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because Marquez won against Vasquez and Vasquez Marquez two both
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took place in the calendar year of two thousand and seven,
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only one of them could win the fight of the year.
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So the winner of that fight of the year was
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the second fight. But in any other year, if the
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Vasquez Marquez had been in the end of twenty four six,
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it would have probably been the fight of the year
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and they would have had two in a row. So
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right away he got one fight of the year, but
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it really could have been too. Then they had the
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third fight back to back to back. This was again
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March of two thousand and eight, so in the span
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of one year, a couple of days less than one year,
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they fought three absolutely hillatious, brutal, ruling fights. But this
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third one was the best of all of them in
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my opinion. It went the distance. It was an absolutely
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hillatious fucking battle. I mean, beyond anybody's normal comprehension of
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what these two athletes could take from each other. It
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was just a spectacular fight and it was highly competitive,
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you know, But in the end it came down, excuse me,
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came down where you had him knocking down Vasquez in
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the fourth round. Marquez, that is, punished him in the
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seventh a lot of jabs, a lot of right hands.
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It was just a and then they just back and forth.
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Was over the top. I mean, the action was absolutely wild.
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Now in the end of the fight, in the final
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seconds of the of the twelfth round, so you know
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the fight's about to end, and you're like, okay, we know,
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we think we know how this is going. Marquez got
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knocked down and that's ended up what it only he
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got knocked down because the ropes kept him from falling.
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But the referee made the right call because he would
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have been out of the ring, and that's what changed
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the result of the fight, and he ended up winning.
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Vasquez ended up winning a split. This same just an amazing,
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amazing fight.
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So what you're saying is a knockdown in the final
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round seventeen years ago was the one point difference, as
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it turns out on at least one card for that fight.
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And here we are seventeen years later talking about a
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knockdown that didn't get called a knockdown that would have
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totally reversed the decision for Lamont roach against.
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The way that it went was that Vascuz ended up
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winning one fourteen to one eleven and one thirteen to
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one twelve, and then the other judge had at one
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fourteen to one eleven in favor of Marquez, so.
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That we have a draw. So we have a draw
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if that had not been a knockdown.
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So but I mean, it really is that that put
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the forget the fourth fight. The first three fights back
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to back to back is just some of the most
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electrifying combat you can see in boxing. Just when you
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think about, like the definition of the quintessential stereotypical Mexican
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warrior boxer. That's what these two guys did in those
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first three fights. I mean, there's not much that you
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can compare it to. There's lots of great Mexican fighters
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have had great fights, but I don't think you can
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think of a trilogy where it's Mexican versus Mexican who
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did what they did to each other.
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Barrera Morales is around the same time, but you're saying,
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in your opinion, this is better for those three fights.
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The reason I say that is because as inglorious and
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amazing and as popular as the Bura Morales trilogy are,
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and it's higher profile because it was on a bigger
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TV channel and it got a lot more love, some
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big pay per views at the end of that the
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second and third or pay per view fights, it got
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a huge amount of hype. The second fight was a
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really good fight, but it didn't come close to living
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up to what the other fights were. For one and
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three are spectacular in this trilogy. The first three, all one, two,
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and three are sensational. Like I said, two thousand and
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seven Fight of the Year, two thousand and eight Fight
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of the Year, and the only reason fight number one
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wasn't also a Fight of the Year was just had
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the misfortune of taking place a few months in to
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two thousand and seven as opposed to two thousand and six,
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And so it's an awesome it's an awesome trilogy, even
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though technically it's a four fight series. I like to
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think of it as a trilogy with a bonus garbage
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thrown out the end of it.
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And so Vasquez got that win on March one, March
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first in two thousand and eight, seventeen years ago.
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There we go.
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There's some nostalgia again, a ton on this recap pot
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on the podcast feed. Other than that, are we good,
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my friend? As the month of monch March is now off.
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And we're good.
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I think we are.
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Thank you for finding us wherever you found us here
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as we preview going into the weekend, we recap coming
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off the weekend for Dan Rayfield, I'm merely TJ Reeves
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It is the Fight Preach Unit Recap podcast