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Hey, this is Kip Winger, and you're listening to the
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All Bets Are Off podcast with Robbie Vegas.
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What's up, rock soldiers? This is the rock star Robbie
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Vegas with another brand new episode of the All Bets
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Are Off podcast. Today, my guest is John Karabi. I mean,
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there's a lot that we could talk about with John Karabi.
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This guy has had a crazy career for decades upon decades.
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And I do try and touch on as much of
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it as possible, or at least bring as much of
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it as possible up. But man, we're going to have
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to have him back because there's just so much. And
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we wanted to focus on his new record that just
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came out. So before I get John on the line,
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I want to give you guys a little sample here.
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This is the single off of the new record, New Day.
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It's called 1969, and you can watch the music video
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for it as well on YouTube. And we did link
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it in the show description as well so you guys
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could find it easily. So here's 1969 from John Karabi,
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and then we're going to get this interview kick-started.
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Yeah, five for a nickel, ten for a dime. Judy
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and Brian said their goodbyes.
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Hey there, welcome Mr.
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President.
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Can you justify all the boys you sent? All the
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hippies sang while the children danced.
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Mr. Lennon said, give peace a chance. Sing us a song.
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It's changing the air.
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A trick of the moon.
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Who's paying the fare? The summer of love.
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All right, John, thank you so much for being here
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today on the All Bets Are Off podcast. I'm really
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excited about this and I appreciate you.
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Thank you, buddy. Thanks for the invite. Of course.
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I mean, there's so much to talk about right now.
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And I want to start with, of course, your new record,
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New Day, which is out right now. And I just
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got done listening to it all the way through for
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the third time. And I love this record, man. So
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you got to tell me where all this inspiration came
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from to put this together.
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Well, you know, it's funny that that seems to be a, uh,
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an ongoing question. A lot of people ask in all honesty, man,
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it's just like in this day and age of just stupidity,
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constant stupidity on the news, 24 hours a day, seven
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days a week, there is never a shortage.
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Of things to talk about.
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And, uh, You know, so all these songs in one
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way or another, it's like, you know, like certain ones,
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you know, like Cosi Bella or Love That'll Never Be.
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It was like thinking of somebody that maybe I had
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a run in with romantically a few years back, you know,
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and then, you know, the rest is just really like
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watching humanity implode on a daily basis. And like I said,
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it it doesn't make it that difficult to find inspiration somewhere.
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You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, no, that makes
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total sense. So I guess that kind of leads me
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into my next question, which is about the first single
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and music video that's out right now, 1969. So tell
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us a little bit about that song lyrically and the
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video style that you put together for that.
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Well, you know, to be quite honest with you, my
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wife is a little bit younger than I am, but.
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Then again, I think most people are younger than me, but, um, no,
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you know, it's funny.
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It just kind of came out of a conversation I
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had with her.
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Um, again, we were talking about.
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Just some of the stupid things that we see on
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a daily basis, whether it's the wars or, you know,
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the political temperament of people and, You know, on both sides.
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This isn't directed at any one person. And my wife
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made a comment, and she said, God, I don't ever remember.
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It being this insane before, like, in the world. You
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know what I mean?
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Mm-hmm.
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And I just happened to say, well, you know, in
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all honesty, I know, like I said, I'm a bit
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older than you, but I totally remember a time when,
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you know, in the 60s, you were dealing with civil
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rights issues. You were dealing with the, you know, there
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was that whole hippie movement that was.
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Anti the Vietnam War. Yeah. And then you had, you know,
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all the suits changed. that were pro.
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Vietnam war, you know, you had communism, you know, like whatever,
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you know, democracy, like just all this, all this stuff
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people were arguing about. And it actually escalated up to
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the point of early seventies. There was the Kent state
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shooting and, you know, just all this craziness. And so
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I sat down and I just kind of, you know,
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from memory, I remembered certain things. I had to look
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up other things, but I just wanted to write a song.
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I think 1969, when you think of, uh, you know,
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some of the things that happened that year landing on
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the moon, uh, you know, there was a lot of tension, uh,
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the Manson murder, just everything. Um, You know, I just
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wrote about that year and I just told my wife,
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I said, it's really crazy that we went through all
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this stuff in the 60s and early 70s. I go,
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but here we are 60 years later. We haven't learned
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a thing.
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Nothing. So we're right back.
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In that same political sphere and the tension within, you know,
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amongst people. And so I just, you know, And 69
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just kind of rolled off the tongue well, you know,
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but you could talk about 68 and, you know, Bobby
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Kennedy's assassination, Martin Luther King. You know, I've had a
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few corrections on the song. People bring to my attention
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that the Summer of Love was in 1967, which I.
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Know it's just a word. You don't really hear it.
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When I'm singing it the way I kind of threw
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it away, but it does say the summer of love was.
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A moment in time.
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We ran through all the BS in 1969.
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You know what I mean?
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So just clearing that up, but it's just honestly, the
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political tensions now is we haven't learned a thing.
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It's 60 years ago.
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All that stuff that was going on, and we're in
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the exact same boat that we were 60 years ago.
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So we're regressing, not progressing. Yeah, no, right. I agree.
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And, you know, watching the video with some of the
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imagery that you used in the 1969 video was really cool.
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And it really is like a moving video. It works
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so well and lyrically, like such a great song. Is
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that why you picked that one to be the single specifically?
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Well, it was funny.
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Like, I just kind of left it to the label
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at first. I just gave them the record and I
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let them sit with it for a while. And they
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kind of suggested the four songs that we released. Didn't
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matter to me the order. I knew I wanted New
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Day to be at first.
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And then after that, it was, you know, it was
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kind of a moot point as long as all four
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songs got out.
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But... The 69 thing, man, it just kind of wrote itself.
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You know what I mean? And then the video, it
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was just.
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Really just kind of stock footage and some animation.
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But it's really just stock footage from things that actually
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happened in 69.
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You know what I mean? And, you know, again, it's weird.
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Like Brian Jones dying, Judy Garland died, both from drug overdoses.
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We had the Woodstock Festival, the Manson murders like just
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it was such a weird up and down year, you know.
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So and then again, like I said, phonetically, it just
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kind of rolled off the tongue.
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We ran through it all back in 1969. So, yeah.
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Well, you know, the record itself from start to finish
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has a very 60s influenced sound underneath any of the tracks.
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And was that intentionally done or did it just kind
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of naturally happen?
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Well, to a degree. I didn't know where these songs
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were going to take me.
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But, you know, the thing that I love about a
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lot of the bands that I grew up listening to
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is they had, uh, it was a different time i
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understand that but they they just had this kind of
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creative freedom to.
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Do what they wanted.
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And they didn't really worry about too much it's kind
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of gotten worse over the years But the thing that
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annoys me about music is the amount of categories that,
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you know, just for like every genre of music, country, rock,
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whatever you have, you know, classic rock, heavy rock, metal,
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black metal, death metal.
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You know, you got all rock, grunge, like all this stuff.
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And it's just, I kind of hate the labels. And
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I use this, this is going to be beating a
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dead horse, but I use the Rolling Stones really as
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one of the examples. But like, if you look at
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the Rolling Stones, who are considered to be the greatest
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rock and roll band on earth.
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Mm-hmm. But you look at their catalog.
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Of music, and yes, they had the songs like Brown
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Sugar and Honky Tonk Woman, but a lot of the
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stuff that they wrote, songs like I'm Just Waitin' on
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a Friend, Wild Horses, Dead Flowers. I mean, if they
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were to put those songs out now, they would almost
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kind of be thrown into like a country box.
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Mm-hmm.
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So when I was talking with Marty, I was just
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really adamant about not, I, I don't want to be
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put into a box.
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I hate boxes. I hate the categories.
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It's just like, just write music and sing. And to me,
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a good song is a good song. You know, as
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much as I love war pigs and, As much as
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I love Misty Mountain Hop or Bohemian Rhapsody, I love
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songs like Galveston by Glen Campbell as well.
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Like the meaning of the song and the lyrics, the melody,
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the chords. So it's like, I just want to do
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what I want. I don't want to worry about categories.
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And I just wanted a record that was going to
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kind of take you on a little bit of a journey.
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Like the old records used to do.
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You never knew song to song what your favorite artist
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was going to do.
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You know, so.
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That was really the only thing that we had in
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mind was like, no boxes, just write. And if we
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like it, then it's going on the record. I'll let
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the rest of the world fucking figure it out later.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, no, I feel like that's the way to go, though,
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because if you like it and you're proud of it,
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then people can connect to that and they can relate
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to that. It's just one of those things. This record
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is phenomenal for anybody who hasn't heard it yet. It
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really is. Start to finish, you don't skip a track.
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It's a great record.
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Surprisingly, there's a few songs in there. I have to
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be honest with you.
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Afterwards, I go, I love this record, but I think
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there's going to be a couple songs that are going
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to throw people curveballs. Um, if you've heard the record,
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you know, the song, uh, good to be back here again. Um,
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but again, I sat there and I, like I played
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it and my wife said, man, I love it.
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Like, it's awesome.
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And I go, I love this song. I love the lyrics,
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the sentiment behind it. Some maybe fans that know me
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from Motley may hear that song ago.
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Uh, what's he doing? You know what I mean? But
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I didn't really care. I'm like, you know what?
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This is my dead flowers or wild horses or, you know,
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and it's just, you know, I don't want to say
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old guy because I still feel like I've got quite
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a few years in front of me. But it's just
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it's just about a guy like kind of going full circle.
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You know, I'm starting over again. So I'm right back.
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Where I was when I was 17, 18 years old
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trying to, you know, be famous, whatever. So I'm in
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a van traveling with my guys in vans and we're
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the low man.
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On the totem pole.
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So it's like I'm just kind of going full circle
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and I'm just saying it's good to be back here again.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, like I said, personally for me,
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I don't think there's a skippable track. I can listen
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to it start to finish, and like I said, I
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have already three times. I don't skip because every song
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is cool in a different way, and I do thoroughly
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enjoy it. But you did just touch on the Motley thing,
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so I actually wanted to. I have them written down
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over here, so I'm going to read off this list,
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but just some of your credentials from over the years
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because you've had such a long and storied career. The
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Eric Singer Project, Union with Bruce Kulick, The Scream, Brides
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of Destruction, Rat, The Dead Daisies, of course, Motley Crue.
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This is an incredible career that you've had. And I
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want to know what you would tell a musician today
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who wants to have the longevity that you've had, because
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it's been decades and it's just been all these amazing projects.
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So what would you tell a musician that wants to
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do what you've done?
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You know, to be quite honest with you, the music business,
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as we all know, is evolving and changing constantly. And
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my brain personally hasn't caught up with it. I have
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no idea because, you know, right now it's all about
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streaming and algorithms and.
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Social media, all of which I suck at. But it's
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just like.
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You know what?
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If you believe in yourself, man, just go for it.
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You know, and I do believe in, you know, I do.
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And maybe it's wrong of me.
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Maybe I look through rose colored glasses at times, but
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I do believe in lightning in a bottle. And I
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believe that there's a huge portion of every successful artist's
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career that there's that one lucky thing that happened or
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a one timing thing that was like really imperative to
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their career.
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Gotcha.
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And you know, so if you believe in yourself, go like,
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just keep plugging at it.
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Keep, you're going to struggle. It's going to be a
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pain in the ass. You know what I mean?
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It still is for me to this day. Like I,
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like I said, I, I can't even spell algorithm. So
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I'm not even going to try. But again, I do
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believe in lightning in a bottle. And I believe that
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at some point, there will be a song that I
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put out or an album that is truly going to
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connect with people.
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And change everything. And so....
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If I had the answers, if I could give somebody
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advice because I had the answers, I would be in
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a completely different position than I'm in right now.
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So I don't have the answers.
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All I can say is if you believe in yourself,
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keep believing, keep plugging away, and don't take no for
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an answer.
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Well, to stay on the Motley Crue train for a second,
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have you noticed that over the years that that Motley
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Crue record, 1994, Has become more beloved through the years.
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Is that something that you've noticed happened?
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Yeah, I mean, like, again, I, you know, this is
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why I called my book Horseshoes and Hand Grenades. Because
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my dad said, my dad told me, you know, in
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those two situations, in horseshoes and in hand grenades, it's
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not about being on the money.
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It's about who's close.
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And I've been close many, many, many, many times in
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my career, but if you also know my career, you
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know that I've kind of flown under the radar with
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a lot of people in the music industry, and I'm
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okay with that, you know what I mean? I do,
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I have had quite a few fans come up to
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me and say, you know what, I was kind of
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I was kind of pissed that Motley got rid of Vince,
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so I didn't even want to listen to your record.
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But I figured it's been 20 years, so I found
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a copy of the record, and God, dude, it's pretty good.
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And I'm okay with that, too. You know what I mean?
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I guess one of the reasons why I wrote New
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Day is because I'm not the type of person to
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sit and think about things.
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That I've already done.
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And we asked them because you can't change it.
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The outcome is already the outcome. You know what I mean?
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So I could sit here all day long and and
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try and go back and correct something that happened 20
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or 30 years ago.
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And it's just not going to change anything.
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So might as well look, might as well look through the,
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you know, the windshield instead of the rear view mirror.
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You know what I mean? Yeah. So I appreciate it.
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You know, I, I, I love that record.
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I had a great time with the guys for the
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four or five years that I was there.
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I really have no ill will towards anybody at all.
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So it is what it is, man. It's just the
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way my cards got played out. You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Now, um, just one more, uh, kind of like in
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the past question would be any of the projects that
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I've just mentioned that you've been involved with over the years.
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Is there any any one of them that is extra
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special to you for any reason at all that, that
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just really sticks out in your head?
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Well, I.
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Only, uh, I would probably have to say the scream
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only because, you know, it was my first, my first
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record deal, my first trip to England, uh, my first
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tour bus, my first going on the road.
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You know what I mean?
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It's like that thing when you finally get laid and
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figured out what your dick is for.
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You know what I mean? You're never going to forget it.
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You know what I mean?
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So it's like, I would have to say just from
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a sentimental point of view, probably the screen. Because, you know,
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once we got our record deal, we all went out
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and we got a couple cocktails and we were just
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chest bumping each other going you know fuck man we
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did it we did it like that that was worth
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the drive from philadelphia to la it was all those
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years culminating up to that point so i i would
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you know i would say that that would be the
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one because it was again my first you know, and I,
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I didn't mean to come up with a crude analogy,
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but it's pretty much the truth. You'll forget your second ex-wife,
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but you're not ever going to forget that, that first
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girl in the backseat of your car.
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You know what I mean?
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No, it's a great, it's a great analogy. That's going
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to be the one that gets all the hits and
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views on this, on this episode. So I got to
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bring it back to the new record because you're going
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to be touring this summer. Um, I know that you've
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already posted a bunch of dates and I believe, um, um,
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the John Carabian friends. And I believe you, you have
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shows with Tom Kiefer, uh, with that, right?
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Yeah.
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We've done quite a few with Tom already. Um, let
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me see.
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We've been to York twice, um, came over here. We
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started with Tom May 5th. We went with him until God,
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May 18th. Uh, we're taking a little break. Tom went
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on to do stuff. He's got like, He had us
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doing some shows. LA Guns was doing some shows with him.
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And Buck Cherry.
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And then there's a few that me and Buck Cherry
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are doing with him. But we're going back out in July.
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But again, I've known Tom, God, since 1978.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah, Tom and I grew up in Philadelphia and... uh,
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I consider him a good pal. Uh, he comes to
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my house, my wife cuts his hair and his wife's hair.
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And, um, you know, so we've known each other.
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He's watched, uh, you know, I actually gave him a
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copy of my record before it even came out. And
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he was just sitting, listening to it. And he, and
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we were just talking on the road and he's, he's
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kind of, he's like, fuck dude, this is a really
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good record, man. It's fucking great.
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So I was very, uh, uh, please. Once again, that
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he asked to take me out.
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On the road with him. I, this is like, God,
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I toured with Tom when he was in Cinderella in 2012. Oh, uh,
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I did some shows with him when I was in
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union on.
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The West coast.
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So he's always kind of kept an eye on what
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I'm doing. And, uh, you know, and I just appreciate
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him sharing the spoils of his success with, uh, you know,
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his Philadelphia brother. So, um, but yeah, it's, it's, it's, uh,
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it's a cool bill, man. We're very, very similar in
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styles and, um, you know, his band is insane. I can,
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I can confidently say the same about my band. And
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then the other cool thing is we all live in Nashville.
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So it's like home week when we're out touring together.
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That's awesome. That's very cool. So the next part of
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this interview is something I do with everybody that comes on,
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especially when it's their first time, and it's a lightning round.
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And some of these questions don't have anything to do
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with anything. They're just for fun.
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Okay, I already know the answers. Yes, yes, no, purple,
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and balls.
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All right, let me look. Yep, all right, moving on.
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Moving on. We can skip that whole part. Just edit
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the answers in. I love it.
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All right, so I got to ask this one. I
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think I know the answer. Let's see if I'm right.
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When you're out on the road, do you prefer Chicago-style
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or New York-style pizza?
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New York.
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I got it right. That's what I was thinking.
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Again, I'm from.
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Philadelphia, so the Philly pizza at New York, it's really similar. Now,
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I do like the deep dish, but I prefer, yeah.
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Yep.
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I'm the same way. I mean, I'm from Buffalo, so
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we have a whole different set of pizza and wings
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going on here, but I spend a lot of time
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in Philly and in New York City, and yeah, I
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love the pizza there.
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Yeah, you can't beat it, dude. American pizza originated in
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New York.
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Yeah, for sure, for sure. Now, are you more of
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a dinner guy or dessert guy?
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Now, it depends. Now, it's funny.
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If I'm driving, I'm tired, I like a little bit
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of sugar or something to just kind of keep me going.
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But to be honest with you, I'm not a real
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big dessert guy.
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I love dinner. So I'm all about the meal.
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All right. Dinner guy all the way. So if you're
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stranded on a desert island and you can only take
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five records with you, what five records are you taking?
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Abbey Road. Grand Funk, Caught in the Act. It's a
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live album.
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I would say Aerosmith Rocks. And then it's a toss-up
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between Zeppelin IV or Physical Graffiti. And then I would
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say Bob Seger's Greatest Hits.
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All right.
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Now, let's see. Do you take in Ozzy or Alice Cooper?
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Wow. Yeah. That's, well, you know, I'm going to go with,
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if you're looking for sound bites, I'm going to go Ozzy.
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All right.
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But that's a really difficult question, dude, because.
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It is.
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Both of those guys, especially for me in the 70s,
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both of those guys were just so massive and so inspiring.
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That's a hard one to pick.
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I mean, like you just saw the reaction the whole
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world had when Ozzy passed.
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Yeah.
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You know, I would imagine to some degree the world's
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going to have you know, knock on wood, but I
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was had just as much of an impact on music as,
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you know, yeah.
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Ozzy did. You know what I mean? Yes.
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I agree with that a hundred percent.
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So that one, that I'm going to have to go
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NA on that one.
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All right.
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Fair.
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I'm going to mark that down as one of the
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ones you just said no to just know.
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Yes. There you go. I knew there was one in
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there somewhere.
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All right. So, uh, are you a horror movie fan?
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Uh, not really.
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All right.
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Like I like, love the exorcist, the original, uh, what's
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the other one? Um, My wife and I love the
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one with Liv Tyler where they're in the cabin, The Strangers.
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Oh, Strangers. Yeah, that's a good movie.
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That was good.
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I don't like, you know, I mean, how many fucking
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times is Michael Myers going to come back to life
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for fuck's sake?
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You know what I mean?
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Like, if they would have just ended at the first one,
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I'd have.
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Been cool with that. but so I like things that
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are a little more.
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Scary but believable alright fair fair like Jaws is believable
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it could happen.
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You know that's in my top three favorite movies of
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all time, Jaws.
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Yeah, and if you.
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Like, as a kid, I just remember when that first
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came out, I remember... Like, I don't even know, because
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internet wasn't even invented at the time, but I remember, like,
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my grandparents telling me about, oh, you know, back in,
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you know, 19... You know, the Matawan shark attacks.
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And I'm like, what? And... Which was.
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I guess to some degree, basically how, uh, what's his name?
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Peter Benchley wrote the book that he based it on
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those shark attacks that happened in Matawan, New Jersey, where
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I think it now they've kind of figured out it
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was a bull shark, but it swam up, up Creek
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about four miles and literally attacked and killed like four
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people within like two, like two or three hours.
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Yeah. Yeah, so I like shit like that. It's scary
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but believable.
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All right, fair, fair. So this next question is another
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music question. Do you prefer studio perfection or live show energy?
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I love the live show energy, but I think there
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is something magical about walking into a recording studio with
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just an idea and then sitting back in the chair
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and listening to the finished product. It's like you kind
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of watch.
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I guess it would be.
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Watching a seed develop into a plant or a tree
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on a time-lapse camera.
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You know what I mean? Yeah.
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So, like, it's very slim, but I think I prefer
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being in the studio... like an iota more than like
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uh doing the live thing.
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Yeah fair enough fair enough so to bring everything back
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around to the new record um can we tell all
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the listeners all the fans um we know that we
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could stream it pretty much anywhere now where can they
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go to get physical media cds vinyl t-shirts all that
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stuff Well.
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Obviously, Amazon's got it. Frontiers Records, on their website, they
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can go to johncarabi.com and order it from the merch thing.
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I have t-shirts and all that stuff available there. Honestly, Amazon,
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I mean, that's probably the easiest thing. You don't even
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have to get off your couch. You can just, you know.
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And for like another $ 5.
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99, I think you can actually order somebody to put
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it on the record table for you.
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You know what I mean? Beautiful. Yeah. So I think
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it's a bundle deal. It's like, you know, I don't know.
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I think the record goes for $ 30. So for like $ 35, $ 40,
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you can actually get a human being to like put
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it on the turntable for you and possibly even do
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your windows.
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I'm just saying. Love it.
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I love it. I think we should definitely market that,
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plug that the most.
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Yeah. It would top the unemployment rate.
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Agreed. You know, but, you know, it would be even better, though,
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if it was like, you know, if you pay an
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extra $ 30 or $ 40, you'll come and do it just
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one time, just once.
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That might be overshooting on the price, buddy. In some markets,
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that might be overshooting the price. I might owe you
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money back.
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Well, listen, this has been great. But before I get
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you out of here, can you just plug your social
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media and let people know who don't already where they
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can follow you and look for more tour dates and
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shows and announcements and things like that?
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Yeah, actually, I have a Facebook page. I don't even know.
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Just look up John Karabi.
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That's C-O-R-A-B-I for those of you who've been under a rock.
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I'm on Instagram, John Karabi official. I have johnkarabi.com. All
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the tour dates, merch, everything that's happening in my world
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is there. And for those of you who have been
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under the rock, yes, I am John Karabi official. If
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you watch the dirt, I am the man that ruined
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Molly's career.
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Thank you very much. Good night. Fade to black.
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Thank you, man. I appreciate it.
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All right, brother. Thank you.
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We ran through it all back.
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In 1969 The fortunate sun's.
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Not away from All right, Rockers, once again, John Karabi.
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Be sure to follow him on social media. Check out
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his website, johnkarabi.com, and catch him on tour this summer
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with John Karabi and friends. So updating tour dates always
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on his website. Check that out, and we will catch
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you next time on the All Bets Are Off podcast.
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All Bets Are Off
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Hey, this is Kip Winger, and you're listening to the
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All Bets Are Off podcast with Robbie Vegas.
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What's up, rock soldiers? This is the rock star Robbie
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Vegas with another brand new episode of the All Bets
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Are Off podcast. Today, my guest is John Karabi. I mean,
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there's a lot that we could talk about with John Karabi.
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This guy has had a crazy career for decades upon decades.
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And I do try and touch on as much of
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it as possible, or at least bring as much of
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it as possible up. But man, we're going to have
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to have him back because there's just so much. And
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we wanted to focus on his new record that just
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came out. So before I get John on the line,
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I want to give you guys a little sample here.
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This is the single off of the new record, New Day.
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It's called 1969, and you can watch the music video
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for it as well on YouTube. And we did link
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it in the show description as well so you guys
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could find it easily. So here's 1969 from John Karabi,
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and then we're going to get this interview kick-started.
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Yeah, five for a nickel, ten for a dime. Judy
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and Brian said their goodbyes.
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Hey there, welcome Mr.
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President.
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Can you justify all the boys you sent? All the
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hippies sang while the children danced.
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Mr. Lennon said, give peace a chance. Sing us a song.
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It's changing the air.
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A trick of the moon.
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Who's paying the fare? The summer of love.
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All right, John, thank you so much for being here
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today on the All Bets Are Off podcast. I'm really
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excited about this and I appreciate you.
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Thank you, buddy. Thanks for the invite. Of course.
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I mean, there's so much to talk about right now.
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And I want to start with, of course, your new record,
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New Day, which is out right now. And I just
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got done listening to it all the way through for
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the third time. And I love this record, man. So
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you got to tell me where all this inspiration came
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from to put this together.
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Well, you know, it's funny that that seems to be a, uh,
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an ongoing question. A lot of people ask in all honesty, man,
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it's just like in this day and age of just stupidity,
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constant stupidity on the news, 24 hours a day, seven
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days a week, there is never a shortage.
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Of things to talk about.
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And, uh, You know, so all these songs in one
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way or another, it's like, you know, like certain ones,
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you know, like Cosi Bella or Love That'll Never Be.
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It was like thinking of somebody that maybe I had
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a run in with romantically a few years back, you know,
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and then, you know, the rest is just really like
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watching humanity implode on a daily basis. And like I said,
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it it doesn't make it that difficult to find inspiration somewhere.
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You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, no, that makes
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total sense. So I guess that kind of leads me
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into my next question, which is about the first single
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and music video that's out right now, 1969. So tell
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us a little bit about that song lyrically and the
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video style that you put together for that.
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Well, you know, to be quite honest with you, my
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wife is a little bit younger than I am, but.
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Then again, I think most people are younger than me, but, um, no,
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you know, it's funny.
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It just kind of came out of a conversation I
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had with her.
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Um, again, we were talking about.
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Just some of the stupid things that we see on
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a daily basis, whether it's the wars or, you know,
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the political temperament of people and, You know, on both sides.
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This isn't directed at any one person. And my wife
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made a comment, and she said, God, I don't ever remember.
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It being this insane before, like, in the world. You
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know what I mean?
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Mm-hmm.
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And I just happened to say, well, you know, in
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all honesty, I know, like I said, I'm a bit
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older than you, but I totally remember a time when,
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you know, in the 60s, you were dealing with civil
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rights issues. You were dealing with the, you know, there
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was that whole hippie movement that was.
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Anti the Vietnam War. Yeah. And then you had, you know,
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all the suits changed. that were pro.
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Vietnam war, you know, you had communism, you know, like whatever,
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you know, democracy, like just all this, all this stuff
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people were arguing about. And it actually escalated up to
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the point of early seventies. There was the Kent state
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shooting and, you know, just all this craziness. And so
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I sat down and I just kind of, you know,
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from memory, I remembered certain things. I had to look
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up other things, but I just wanted to write a song.
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I think 1969, when you think of, uh, you know,
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some of the things that happened that year landing on
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the moon, uh, you know, there was a lot of tension, uh,
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the Manson murder, just everything. Um, You know, I just
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wrote about that year and I just told my wife,
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I said, it's really crazy that we went through all
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this stuff in the 60s and early 70s. I go,
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but here we are 60 years later. We haven't learned
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a thing.
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Nothing. So we're right back.
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In that same political sphere and the tension within, you know,
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amongst people. And so I just, you know, And 69
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just kind of rolled off the tongue well, you know,
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but you could talk about 68 and, you know, Bobby
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Kennedy's assassination, Martin Luther King. You know, I've had a
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few corrections on the song. People bring to my attention
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that the Summer of Love was in 1967, which I.
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Know it's just a word. You don't really hear it.
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When I'm singing it the way I kind of threw
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it away, but it does say the summer of love was.
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A moment in time.
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We ran through all the BS in 1969.
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You know what I mean?
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So just clearing that up, but it's just honestly, the
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political tensions now is we haven't learned a thing.
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It's 60 years ago.
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All that stuff that was going on, and we're in
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the exact same boat that we were 60 years ago.
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So we're regressing, not progressing. Yeah, no, right. I agree.
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And, you know, watching the video with some of the
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imagery that you used in the 1969 video was really cool.
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And it really is like a moving video. It works
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so well and lyrically, like such a great song. Is
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that why you picked that one to be the single specifically?
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Well, it was funny.
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Like, I just kind of left it to the label
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at first. I just gave them the record and I
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let them sit with it for a while. And they
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kind of suggested the four songs that we released. Didn't
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matter to me the order. I knew I wanted New
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Day to be at first.
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Yeah.
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And then after that, it was, you know, it was
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kind of a moot point as long as all four
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songs got out.
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But... The 69 thing, man, it just kind of wrote itself.
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You know what I mean? And then the video, it
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You know what I mean? And, you know, again, it's weird.
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Like Brian Jones dying, Judy Garland died, both from drug overdoses.
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it was such a weird up and down year, you know.
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kind of rolled off the tongue.
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We ran through it all back in 1969. So, yeah.
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has a very 60s influenced sound underneath any of the tracks.
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of naturally happen?
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were going to take me.
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lot of the bands that I grew up listening to
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is they had, uh, it was a different time i
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understand that but they they just had this kind of
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creative freedom to.
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of gotten worse over the years But the thing that
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annoys me about music is the amount of categories that,
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you know, just for like every genre of music, country, rock,
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whatever you have, you know, classic rock, heavy rock, metal,
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black metal, death metal.
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I use this, this is going to be beating a
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dead horse, but I use the Rolling Stones really as
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one of the examples. But like, if you look at
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the Rolling Stones, who are considered to be the greatest
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rock and roll band on earth.
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Mm-hmm. But you look at their catalog.
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Of music, and yes, they had the songs like Brown
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Sugar and Honky Tonk Woman, but a lot of the
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stuff that they wrote, songs like I'm Just Waitin' on
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a Friend, Wild Horses, Dead Flowers. I mean, if they
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were to put those songs out now, they would almost
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kind of be thrown into like a country box.
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So when I was talking with Marty, I was just
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really adamant about not, I, I don't want to be
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put into a box.
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I hate boxes. I hate the categories.
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It's just like, just write music and sing. And to me,
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a good song is a good song. You know, as
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much as I love war pigs and, As much as
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I love Misty Mountain Hop or Bohemian Rhapsody, I love
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songs like Galveston by Glen Campbell as well.
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Like the meaning of the song and the lyrics, the melody,
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the chords. So it's like, I just want to do
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what I want. I don't want to worry about categories.
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kind of take you on a little bit of a journey.
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Like the old records used to do.
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You never knew song to song what your favorite artist
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was going to do.
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That was really the only thing that we had in
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mind was like, no boxes, just write. And if we
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like it, then it's going on the record. I'll let
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the rest of the world fucking figure it out later.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, no, I feel like that's the way to go, though,
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because if you like it and you're proud of it,
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to that. It's just one of those things. This record
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is phenomenal for anybody who hasn't heard it yet. It
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really is. Start to finish, you don't skip a track.
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Surprisingly, there's a few songs in there. I have to
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be honest with you.
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Afterwards, I go, I love this record, but I think
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there's going to be a couple songs that are going
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to throw people curveballs. Um, if you've heard the record,
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you know, the song, uh, good to be back here again. Um,
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but again, I sat there and I, like I played
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it and my wife said, man, I love it.
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Like, it's awesome.
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the sentiment behind it. Some maybe fans that know me
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from Motley may hear that song ago.
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Uh, what's he doing? You know what I mean? But
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I didn't really care. I'm like, you know what?
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This is my dead flowers or wild horses or, you know,
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old guy because I still feel like I've got quite
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a few years in front of me. But it's just
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it's just about a guy like kind of going full circle.
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You know, I'm starting over again. So I'm right back.
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Where I was when I was 17, 18 years old
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trying to, you know, be famous, whatever. So I'm in
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a van traveling with my guys in vans and we're
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the low man.
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On the totem pole.
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So it's like I'm just kind of going full circle
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and I'm just saying it's good to be back here again.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, like I said, personally for me,
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I don't think there's a skippable track. I can listen
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to it start to finish, and like I said, I
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have already three times. I don't skip because every song
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is cool in a different way, and I do thoroughly
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enjoy it. But you did just touch on the Motley thing,
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so I actually wanted to. I have them written down
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over here, so I'm going to read off this list,
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but just some of your credentials from over the years
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because you've had such a long and storied career. The
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Eric Singer Project, Union with Bruce Kulick, The Scream, Brides
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of Destruction, Rat, The Dead Daisies, of course, Motley Crue.
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This is an incredible career that you've had. And I
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want to know what you would tell a musician today
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who wants to have the longevity that you've had, because
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it's been decades and it's just been all these amazing projects.
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So what would you tell a musician that wants to
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do what you've done?
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You know, to be quite honest with you, the music business,
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as we all know, is evolving and changing constantly. And
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my brain personally hasn't caught up with it. I have
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no idea because, you know, right now it's all about
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streaming and algorithms and.
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Social media, all of which I suck at. But it's
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just like.
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You know what?
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If you believe in yourself, man, just go for it.
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You know, and I do believe in, you know, I do.
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And maybe it's wrong of me.
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Maybe I look through rose colored glasses at times, but
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I do believe in lightning in a bottle. And I
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believe that there's a huge portion of every successful artist's
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career that there's that one lucky thing that happened or
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a one timing thing that was like really imperative to
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their career.
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Gotcha.
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just keep plugging at it.
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Keep, you're going to struggle. It's going to be a
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pain in the ass. You know what I mean?
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It still is for me to this day. Like I,
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like I said, I, I can't even spell algorithm. So
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I'm not even going to try. But again, I do
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believe in lightning in a bottle. And I believe that
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at some point, there will be a song that I
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put out or an album that is truly going to
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connect with people.
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And change everything. And so....
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If I had the answers, if I could give somebody
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advice because I had the answers, I would be in
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a completely different position than I'm in right now.
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All I can say is if you believe in yourself,
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keep believing, keep plugging away, and don't take no for
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an answer.
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Well, to stay on the Motley Crue train for a second,
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have you noticed that over the years that that Motley
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Crue record, 1994, Has become more beloved through the years.
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Is that something that you've noticed happened?
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Yeah, I mean, like, again, I, you know, this is
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why I called my book Horseshoes and Hand Grenades. Because
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my dad said, my dad told me, you know, in
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those two situations, in horseshoes and in hand grenades, it's
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not about being on the money.
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It's about who's close.
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And I've been close many, many, many, many times in
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my career, but if you also know my career, you
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know that I've kind of flown under the radar with
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a lot of people in the music industry, and I'm
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okay with that, you know what I mean? I do,
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I have had quite a few fans come up to
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me and say, you know what, I was kind of
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I was kind of pissed that Motley got rid of Vince,
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so I didn't even want to listen to your record.
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But I figured it's been 20 years, so I found
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a copy of the record, and God, dude, it's pretty good.
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And I'm okay with that, too. You know what I mean?
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I guess one of the reasons why I wrote New
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Day is because I'm not the type of person to
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sit and think about things.
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That I've already done.
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And we asked them because you can't change it.
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The outcome is already the outcome. You know what I mean?
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So I could sit here all day long and and
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try and go back and correct something that happened 20
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or 30 years ago.
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And it's just not going to change anything.
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So might as well look, might as well look through the,
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you know, the windshield instead of the rear view mirror.
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You know what I mean? Yeah. So I appreciate it.
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You know, I, I, I love that record.
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I had a great time with the guys for the
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four or five years that I was there.
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I really have no ill will towards anybody at all.
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So it is what it is, man. It's just the
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way my cards got played out. You know what I mean?
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Now, um, just one more, uh, kind of like in
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the past question would be any of the projects that
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I've just mentioned that you've been involved with over the years.
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Is there any any one of them that is extra
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special to you for any reason at all that, that
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just really sticks out in your head?
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Only, uh, I would probably have to say the scream
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only because, you know, it was my first, my first
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record deal, my first trip to England, uh, my first
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tour bus, my first going on the road.
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You know what I mean?
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It's like that thing when you finally get laid and
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figured out what your dick is for.
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You know what I mean? You're never going to forget it.
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You know what I mean?
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So it's like, I would have to say just from
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a sentimental point of view, probably the screen. Because, you know,
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once we got our record deal, we all went out
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and we got a couple cocktails and we were just
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chest bumping each other going you know fuck man we
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did it we did it like that that was worth
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the drive from philadelphia to la it was all those
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years culminating up to that point so i i would
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you know i would say that that would be the
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one because it was again my first you know, and I,
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I didn't mean to come up with a crude analogy,
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but it's pretty much the truth. You'll forget your second ex-wife,
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but you're not ever going to forget that, that first
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girl in the backseat of your car.
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You know what I mean?
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No, it's a great, it's a great analogy. That's going
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to be the one that gets all the hits and
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views on this, on this episode. So I got to
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bring it back to the new record because you're going
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to be touring this summer. Um, I know that you've
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already posted a bunch of dates and I believe, um, um,
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the John Carabian friends. And I believe you, you have
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shows with Tom Kiefer, uh, with that, right?
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We've done quite a few with Tom already. Um, let
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me see.
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started with Tom May 5th. We went with him until God,
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May 18th. Uh, we're taking a little break. Tom went
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on to do stuff. He's got like, He had us
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doing some shows. LA Guns was doing some shows with him.
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And Buck Cherry.
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And then there's a few that me and Buck Cherry
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are doing with him. But we're going back out in July.
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But again, I've known Tom, God, since 1978.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah, Tom and I grew up in Philadelphia and... uh,
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I consider him a good pal. Uh, he comes to
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my house, my wife cuts his hair and his wife's hair.
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And, um, you know, so we've known each other.
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He's watched, uh, you know, I actually gave him a
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copy of my record before it even came out. And
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he was just sitting, listening to it. And he, and
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we were just talking on the road and he's, he's
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kind of, he's like, fuck dude, this is a really
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good record, man. It's fucking great.
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So I was very, uh, uh, please. Once again, that
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he asked to take me out.
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On the road with him. I, this is like, God,
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I toured with Tom when he was in Cinderella in 2012. Oh, uh,
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I did some shows with him when I was in
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union on.
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The West coast.
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So he's always kind of kept an eye on what
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I'm doing. And, uh, you know, and I just appreciate
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him sharing the spoils of his success with, uh, you know,
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his Philadelphia brother. So, um, but yeah, it's, it's, it's, uh,
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it's a cool bill, man. We're very, very similar in
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styles and, um, you know, his band is insane. I can,
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I can confidently say the same about my band. And
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then the other cool thing is we all live in Nashville.
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So it's like home week when we're out touring together.
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That's awesome. That's very cool. So the next part of
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this interview is something I do with everybody that comes on,
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especially when it's their first time, and it's a lightning round.
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And some of these questions don't have anything to do
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with anything. They're just for fun.
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Okay, I already know the answers. Yes, yes, no, purple,
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and balls.
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All right, let me look. Yep, all right, moving on.
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Moving on. We can skip that whole part. Just edit
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the answers in. I love it.
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All right, so I got to ask this one. I
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think I know the answer. Let's see if I'm right.
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When you're out on the road, do you prefer Chicago-style
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or New York-style pizza?
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New York.
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I got it right. That's what I was thinking.
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Again, I'm from.
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Philadelphia, so the Philly pizza at New York, it's really similar. Now,
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I do like the deep dish, but I prefer, yeah.
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Yep.
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I'm the same way. I mean, I'm from Buffalo, so
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we have a whole different set of pizza and wings
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going on here, but I spend a lot of time
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in Philly and in New York City, and yeah, I
444
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love the pizza there.
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Yeah, you can't beat it, dude. American pizza originated in
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New York.
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Yeah, for sure, for sure. Now, are you more of
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a dinner guy or dessert guy?
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Now, it depends. Now, it's funny.
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If I'm driving, I'm tired, I like a little bit
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of sugar or something to just kind of keep me going.
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But to be honest with you, I'm not a real
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big dessert guy.
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I love dinner. So I'm all about the meal.
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All right. Dinner guy all the way. So if you're
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stranded on a desert island and you can only take
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five records with you, what five records are you taking?
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Abbey Road. Grand Funk, Caught in the Act. It's a
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live album.
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I would say Aerosmith Rocks. And then it's a toss-up
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between Zeppelin IV or Physical Graffiti. And then I would
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say Bob Seger's Greatest Hits.
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All right.
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Now, let's see. Do you take in Ozzy or Alice Cooper?
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Wow. Yeah. That's, well, you know, I'm going to go with,
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00:27:42.940 --> 00:27:45.519
if you're looking for sound bites, I'm going to go Ozzy.
467
00:27:45.539 --> 00:27:46.519
All right.
468
00:27:46.859 --> 00:27:49.740
But that's a really difficult question, dude, because.
469
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It is.
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Both of those guys, especially for me in the 70s,
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both of those guys were just so massive and so inspiring.
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00:28:05.970 --> 00:28:09.250
That's a hard one to pick.
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I mean, like you just saw the reaction the whole
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world had when Ozzy passed.
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Yeah.
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You know, I would imagine to some degree the world's
477
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going to have you know, knock on wood, but I
478
00:28:25.410 --> 00:28:29.630
was had just as much of an impact on music as,
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you know, yeah.
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Ozzy did. You know what I mean? Yes.
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I agree with that a hundred percent.
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00:28:37.809 --> 00:28:40.450
So that one, that I'm going to have to go
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NA on that one.
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All right.
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Fair.
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I'm going to mark that down as one of the
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ones you just said no to just know.
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00:28:48.450 --> 00:28:50.450
Yes. There you go. I knew there was one in
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there somewhere.
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00:28:51.049 --> 00:28:55.890
All right. So, uh, are you a horror movie fan?
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Uh, not really.
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00:29:01.690 --> 00:29:03.130
All right.
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Like I like, love the exorcist, the original, uh, what's
494
00:29:14.180 --> 00:29:17.809
the other one? Um, My wife and I love the
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00:29:17.890 --> 00:29:21.730
one with Liv Tyler where they're in the cabin, The Strangers.
496
00:29:22.630 --> 00:29:24.269
Oh, Strangers. Yeah, that's a good movie.
497
00:29:24.809 --> 00:29:25.549
That was good.
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I don't like, you know, I mean, how many fucking
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00:29:30.170 --> 00:29:32.190
times is Michael Myers going to come back to life
500
00:29:32.529 --> 00:29:33.250
for fuck's sake?
501
00:29:33.690 --> 00:29:34.269
You know what I mean?
502
00:29:36.150 --> 00:29:38.349
Like, if they would have just ended at the first one,
503
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I'd have.
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00:29:39.230 --> 00:29:43.660
Been cool with that. but so I like things that
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are a little more.
506
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Scary but believable alright fair fair like Jaws is believable
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it could happen.
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00:29:58.130 --> 00:30:01.670
You know that's in my top three favorite movies of
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all time, Jaws.
510
00:30:02.950 --> 00:30:03.750
Yeah, and if you.
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Like, as a kid, I just remember when that first
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came out, I remember... Like, I don't even know, because
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internet wasn't even invented at the time, but I remember, like,
514
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my grandparents telling me about, oh, you know, back in,
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00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:23.359
you know, 19... You know, the Matawan shark attacks.
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00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:28.180
And I'm like, what? And... Which was.
517
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:34.079
I guess to some degree, basically how, uh, what's his name?
518
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:38.299
Peter Benchley wrote the book that he based it on
519
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:42.390
those shark attacks that happened in Matawan, New Jersey, where
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I think it now they've kind of figured out it
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was a bull shark, but it swam up, up Creek
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about four miles and literally attacked and killed like four
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people within like two, like two or three hours.
524
00:30:58.059 --> 00:31:02.789
Yeah. Yeah, so I like shit like that. It's scary
525
00:31:02.849 --> 00:31:03.630
but believable.
526
00:31:03.650 --> 00:31:07.750
All right, fair, fair. So this next question is another
527
00:31:07.789 --> 00:31:12.049
music question. Do you prefer studio perfection or live show energy?
528
00:31:17.529 --> 00:31:21.279
I love the live show energy, but I think there
529
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:26.240
is something magical about walking into a recording studio with
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00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:31.069
just an idea and then sitting back in the chair
531
00:31:31.990 --> 00:31:36.230
and listening to the finished product. It's like you kind
532
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:36.799
of watch.
533
00:31:38.779 --> 00:31:41.380
I guess it would be.
534
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.259
Watching a seed develop into a plant or a tree
535
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.599
on a time-lapse camera.
536
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:49.500
You know what I mean? Yeah.
537
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:55.769
So, like, it's very slim, but I think I prefer
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00:31:55.829 --> 00:32:01.119
being in the studio... like an iota more than like
539
00:32:02.259 --> 00:32:04.450
uh doing the live thing.
540
00:32:05.009 --> 00:32:08.009
Yeah fair enough fair enough so to bring everything back
541
00:32:08.049 --> 00:32:10.589
around to the new record um can we tell all
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00:32:10.609 --> 00:32:12.890
the listeners all the fans um we know that we
543
00:32:12.910 --> 00:32:16.170
could stream it pretty much anywhere now where can they
544
00:32:16.210 --> 00:32:18.950
go to get physical media cds vinyl t-shirts all that
545
00:32:18.990 --> 00:32:19.880
stuff Well.
546
00:32:19.980 --> 00:32:25.759
Obviously, Amazon's got it. Frontiers Records, on their website, they
547
00:32:25.779 --> 00:32:30.960
can go to johncarabi.com and order it from the merch thing.
548
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:38.400
I have t-shirts and all that stuff available there. Honestly, Amazon,
549
00:32:38.420 --> 00:32:40.960
I mean, that's probably the easiest thing. You don't even
550
00:32:41.019 --> 00:32:43.980
have to get off your couch. You can just, you know.
551
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.240
And for like another $ 5.
552
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:52.460
99, I think you can actually order somebody to put
553
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.220
it on the record table for you.
554
00:32:54.819 --> 00:32:58.079
You know what I mean? Beautiful. Yeah. So I think
555
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.190
it's a bundle deal. It's like, you know, I don't know.
556
00:33:00.250 --> 00:33:04.509
I think the record goes for $ 30. So for like $ 35, $ 40,
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00:33:03.990 --> 00:33:07.049
you can actually get a human being to like put
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00:33:07.089 --> 00:33:09.690
it on the turntable for you and possibly even do
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00:33:09.730 --> 00:33:10.309
your windows.
560
00:33:10.509 --> 00:33:12.000
I'm just saying. Love it.
561
00:33:12.089 --> 00:33:13.990
I love it. I think we should definitely market that,
562
00:33:14.049 --> 00:33:14.869
plug that the most.
563
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:18.579
Yeah. It would top the unemployment rate.
564
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.700
Agreed. You know, but, you know, it would be even better, though,
565
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:26.799
if it was like, you know, if you pay an
566
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:30.599
extra $ 30 or $ 40, you'll come and do it just
567
00:33:30.700 --> 00:33:31.859
one time, just once.
568
00:33:34.059 --> 00:33:39.660
That might be overshooting on the price, buddy. In some markets,
569
00:33:39.700 --> 00:33:42.759
that might be overshooting the price. I might owe you
570
00:33:42.779 --> 00:33:43.279
money back.
571
00:33:45.539 --> 00:33:47.390
Well, listen, this has been great. But before I get
572
00:33:47.410 --> 00:33:49.950
you out of here, can you just plug your social
573
00:33:49.990 --> 00:33:52.690
media and let people know who don't already where they
574
00:33:52.710 --> 00:33:55.089
can follow you and look for more tour dates and
575
00:33:55.109 --> 00:33:56.609
shows and announcements and things like that?
576
00:33:57.309 --> 00:34:01.349
Yeah, actually, I have a Facebook page. I don't even know.
577
00:34:01.630 --> 00:34:03.009
Just look up John Karabi.
578
00:34:03.029 --> 00:34:07.750
That's C-O-R-A-B-I for those of you who've been under a rock.
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00:34:08.570 --> 00:34:14.110
I'm on Instagram, John Karabi official. I have johnkarabi.com. All
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00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:18.619
the tour dates, merch, everything that's happening in my world
581
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.599
is there. And for those of you who have been
582
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.610
under the rock, yes, I am John Karabi official. If
583
00:34:24.650 --> 00:34:26.829
you watch the dirt, I am the man that ruined
584
00:34:26.869 --> 00:34:27.670
Molly's career.
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00:34:27.730 --> 00:34:30.070
Thank you very much. Good night. Fade to black.
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00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:33.860
Thank you, man. I appreciate it.
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00:34:34.460 --> 00:34:35.579
All right, brother. Thank you.
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00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:42.340
We ran through it all back.
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In 1969 The fortunate sun's.
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Not away from All right, Rockers, once again, John Karabi.
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Be sure to follow him on social media. Check out
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his website, johnkarabi.com, and catch him on tour this summer
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00:35:01.340 --> 00:35:05.679
with John Karabi and friends. So updating tour dates always
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00:35:05.739 --> 00:35:07.590
on his website. Check that out, and we will catch
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you next time on the All Bets Are Off podcast.
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