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We know that over 90% of Americans are not consuming enough fiber in their diet.
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And so when you think about GLP1s, right, and the role they play in helping to reduce our appetite and reducing satiety, reducing caloric intake, that means for many people we're coming at a place where we're already kind of not getting enough fiber, and now we're probably getting even less.
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So we're really widening that fiber gap.
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Welcome to the GLP One Hub Podcast, powered by Olipop.
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I'm Anna Reisdorf, registered dietitian and GLP1 user.
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And every fall, thousands of dietitians get together at Fency, the Food Nutrition Conference and Expo.
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It's the biggest meeting of the year in our field, and it's where we talk about all the newest science, the trends we're seeing with our clients, and what brands are actually building.
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You might assume that a lot of nutrition research comes from just government or university labs, but a lot of it comes from the brands themselves, the ones investing in studies so they can make products that genuinely help people.
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And that matters more than ever right now because GOP1s have changed the whole health and wellness world pretty fast.
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And this year you could see it everywhere on the Expo floor.
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So for this series, I sat down with some of the top dietitians working inside the most innovative brands.
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These are partner episodes and their rare access to the people behind the products and the studies built for exactly where you are on your GLP1 journey.
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And my guest today is Courtney McCormick, a registered dietitian with a master's in public health and 20 years of experience in the field, most of it focused on weight management.
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She's the manager of clinical research and scientific content at Ollip.
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We talk about how GLP1 users can widen an already big fiber gap, why not all fibers work the same way, and how to add fiber low and slow with enough fluid so it helps instead of backfires.
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Courtney explains why Ollipop put prebiotic fibers into a soda in the first place and walks through their soda swap study that compared blood sugar response after drinking Olipop's vintage cola versus regular Coca-Cola.
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Thank you so much, Olipop, for sponsoring this episode.
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And let's get into it now.
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Welcome this morning, Miss Courtney McCormick from Olipop won their scientific research director, right?
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Is that what his manager manager of clinical research?
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Courtney, I I messed up the whole thing.
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I knew his important role.
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Anyway, how are you?
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Introduce yourself to the people this morning.
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I'm great.
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No, thank you for having me on.
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I'm really excited to be here.
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As you said, I'm Courtney McCormick.
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I'm a registered dietitian.
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I currently serve as our manager of clinical research and scientific content at Alipop.
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Um, but I've spent, I've been a dietitian for 20 years.
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Um, and I've spent most of my career really focused on weight management.
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Um, so I started, I have a master's in public health.
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So I started focusing on public health nutrition programs, did a lot in SNAP education, worked some in schools and policy work, and then I transitioned into industry a little over 10 years ago, um, where I've really focused more on product development and clinical research.
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And I've been at Ollipop now for two years, a little over two years, really helping to manage our clinical research program.
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We have a really big retail health program.
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So really helping to work with registered dietitians out in retail.
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And then also we have just a dietitian program, which I'm really excited about.
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We have a little over 4,000 dietitians that are enrolled in our dietitian program.
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And so we provide them with resources and promo codes, and we just refreshed our digital dietitian toolkit for dietitians as well.
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Cool.
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So what type of research is a soda company doing?
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So, you know, we really want to make sure we're validating our product.
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And so, you know, we uh we support digestive health.
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And so we've done some um preclinical work where we've looked at really validated uh gut models to make sure that the prebiotics in our soda are actually doing what they're supposed to be doing in terms of helping support the good bacteria living within our gut.
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And then we've also done human research as well.
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So really looking at metabolic health outcomes, looking at blood sugar response.
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And so we have some, we just published our soda swap study in the journal Food and Humanity this year.
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So I'm really excited about that.
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Um, and what we saw was that, you know, compared to traditional cola, olipop's vintage cola had a better blood glucose response.
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Great.
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I think we're gonna dig into the research a little bit more a little bit later in the episode.
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But one of the things that stands out about Olipop, but it's also a really important conversation for just the GLP1 community, which I think isn't being addressed enough because we are in a kind of war against protein, but then it's like a pro-protein war.
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I don't I don't know what kind of war this is, but it's fiber, right?
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Fiber is the piece that I think is missing.
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So talking about GLP1, why is that important for people on this medication and just people overall really?
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Yeah.
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So obviously at Olipop, we're very passionate about fiber.
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Um, and you know, rightfully so.
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When we look at kind of the dietary guidelines, you know, I think multiple iterations of the dietary guidelines have called out fiber as a nutrient of concern.
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We know that over 90% of Americans are not consuming enough fiber in their diet.
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And so I think when you think about GLP1s, right, and the role they play in helping to reduce our appetite and make, you know, reducing satiety, reducing caloric intake, that means for many people, we're coming at a place where we're already kind of not getting enough fiber, and now we're probably getting even less.
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So we're really widening that fiber gap.
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And so I think, you know, we we hear a lot about protein and GLP ones.
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And I think it's important that we talk about fiber as well and really helping to kind of close that fiber gap as we're eating fewer calories.
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Right.
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So a lot of uh my audience members are struggling with constipation.
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It's probably like the most common GI side effect of GLP1.
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You know, the recommend, the blanket, easy to say recommendation is eat more fiber.
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But that can sometimes not be correct.
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So can you explain why we say that and then why it maybe doesn't work for all people?
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Yeah.
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So I think right, though, you know, it's I think in simplest terms, it's easy for people to say, oh, just eat more fiber, right?
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But we know that not all fibers are created equal, right?
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There's different types of fibers that are going to have different mechanisms within our body.
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So I think the type of fiber is important, but then also it's important to go back and think about, you know, more holistically, like what else is going on.
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Like sometimes it's not the fiber that's really causing that constipation, right?
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I think it's obviously a side effect of GLP1s, but it could also be hydration, right?
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People may not be consuming enough fluids, which can impact constipation.
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Also, lack of physical activity or stress, right?
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So there's lots of reasons that people may have constipation.
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And so I think when we think about, you know, one, looking at what is the reason, like why is that happening, but then also when it comes to fiber, really understanding that there are different types of fibers.
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And so, you know, we think about psilium, wheat bran, right?
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Those are really well known to support constipation.
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Um, also some of those prebiotic soluble fibers, like you'll find in Alipop, you know, acacia fiber, guar fiber can also help support constipation.
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Some people tell me that different fibers kind of make them bloated.
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Um, I we went to Japan over the summer and they have this like anti-constipation Japanese mix that you get at 7-Eleven on social media, and like you mix all these different things together, and it worked, but I had to drink like a thing of water like this for it to work because initially it was like, you know, right away.
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And so what is like what happens there with the different types of fiber and people reacting differently?
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Is it I just bought all the fibers at 7-Eleven and just had them all at once, and then I most of my stuff?
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So again, there's different types of fibers, right?
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And so some fibers are fermentable, so they're going to be those fibers, those prebiotic fibers will will cause some, you know, gas.
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The one thing to note is like that actually means they're working.
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That's actually what they're supposed to be doing.
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Those prebiotic fibers ferment, right?
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That that's what their job is.
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That's where you get those health benefits.
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Um, but I think for many of us, because we're coming in at a place where we have low fiber intake in our diet, so our digestive system just isn't used to that.
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So I think low and slow is really important when we add more fiber.
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But then also to your point, the hydration, right?
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Making sure we're also staying hydrated.
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Um, it's important that we get enough fluids as we're consuming fiber because that's also going to help kind of move things along and help with that bloating.
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I think that that was the biggest issue for me.
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I'm used to drinking like four or five Stanley's worth of water and there I didn't have that.
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Yeah.
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So it's like that made a big, big impact.
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Yeah.
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And I think also people kind of think, you know, all or nothing mentality.
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And I think people go from, especially, you know, the average Americans consuming 16 grams of fiber a day.
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I think when people hear, oh, well, you know, I'm supposed to have 25 to 30 grams, then overnight they're like, I'm gonna double my intake, right?
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And it's really not the approach we should be taking.
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We should be thinking about how do we do it, you know, slow and gradually.
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And so maybe that is adding in something that has, you know, six grams of fiber, like an olipop or, you know, so gradually introducing that because that will also help kind of lessen some of that that boating and don't go from like sign on it.
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Now they've got like pastas and things that have like 25 grams of fiber or something.
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So they'll they'll start there maybe.
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Yeah.
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Or if you're gonna start there, right?
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Maybe have half a serving.
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Um, and to your point too, add fluid, like make sure you're drinking enough fluids as you add that fiber into your diet.
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Right.
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So the thing that's really interesting about Olipot, because I think of fiber and I think of like berries or the bran, but this is a soda.
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So, like, where did that come from to put fiber in soda?
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Because I think of fiber as like, you know, fibrous.
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Yeah.
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I don't want to drink a chunky soda, right?
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I mean, the beautiful part about our product is we're using those soluble prebiotic fibers.
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So they are soluble in a liquid format.
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But really, you know, why soda?
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So Ben Goodwin founded Olipop um in 2018.
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And so he today is still our formulator of the product.
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And he really understood that, you know, we weren't consuming enough fiber.
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Um, he really understood that fiber plays a significant role in kind of our digestive health, our gut microbiome.
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And he had this vision to impact human health at scale.
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And he really thought you could use beverage as a vehicle to do that because we know that, you know, everyone's consuming beverages, right?
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The beverage industry was really growing at the time.
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Um, and when we think about to soda, right?
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So he chose soda very intentionally because soda actually has a 97% household penetration.
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So when you look across consumer packaged goods, it has one of the highest household penetrations.
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So it's in almost everybody's home, right?
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And so if you can take a product that people are already consuming and make it better for you and add those fibers into that product, it's a way to help shift that human health positive for positive.
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And so that was really his vision, and that's really what created Olipop.
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Interesting, interesting.
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Like I didn't realize that everybody had, I thought it was just us addicted to you know diet soda.
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Yeah, and you know, and I think we've, you know, we've been very successful at one of our metrics we measure at Olipop again, because our mission is to impact human health at scale.
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Um and so we actually have one of our key performance indicators that we look at as a company is how much fiber we've added to the American diet.
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Um, and since 2018, we've actually added 15 million pounds of fiber into the American diet.
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So, you know, so I think it's again showing that you can take this vehicle that, you know, people don't want to give up their soda, but if you can make it better for you, right, and lead with flavor, we've also led with flavor and taste.
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That that that's key because that's what's gonna keep people coming back to your product as well.
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I mean, that makes a big difference.
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There's plenty of products out there that people send me or share with me that are healthy and they look great and then they don't taste.
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They don't deliver, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And we always say at Olipop, when we formulate, we're very intentional, right?
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We want to make sure we have those science-backed functional ingredients, but we're also leading our top priority is flavor and taste.
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We want to make sure too that we're, you know, we have those classic flavors that people enjoy the colas, lemon lime, root beer.
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Um, but then we also fund innovative ones, right?
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We just launched caramel apple for the fall as a seasonal limited time offering.
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We have our pomegranate sparkle that we've launched for this holiday season.
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And so, again, just really kind of thinking about what are those flavors that have that nostalgic play that people are looking for.
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So, one thing that has really contributed kind of to the obesity epidemic and the metabolic issues that we have is sugar sweetened beverages, which includes, you know, sodas and other things like that.
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So, you guys are did doing a study on metabolic health and the olipop.
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So, can you explain to me about like what you were looking at, what you were trying to accomplish and what you found?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So um as I mentioned earlier, we this year we published our soda swap study in the journal Food and Humanity.
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And so what we were looking at in that study really was more kind of short-term acute effects of consuming Alipop and its response on blood sugar response.
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Um, and so we had individuals wear a glucose monitor and then they consumed either our Alipop vintage cola or they consumed traditional cola.
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So we had them come into the clinic on multiple days to consume those products.
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And they consumed them either alone or they consumed them in combination with a higher carbohydrate meal.
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So bagel and cream cheese.
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And what we saw in that study was, you know, we then measured their blood sugar over a two, two hour, three-hour period.
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And what we found was that when they consumed the Alipop, they had a more favorable blood sugar response compared to traditional cola.
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So it was really exciting to see that.
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Um, and so that really kind of, you know, expanded the work we're doing thinking about metabolic health.
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We're currently enrolling for another metabolic health study.
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This one will look more at those long-term impacts of swapping, you know, traditional sodas for an olipop.
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So it's gonna be over an eight-week period, and we're gonna have those individuals who typically consume traditional soda swap over to Olipop and have Olipop over eight weeks.
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And we're gonna look at, you know, how does how does their blood sugar respond, insulin, A1C, all of those outcomes.
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So for the the study that you already did, did you match the sugar?
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Because like an Olipop has like two grams of sugar, but the regular soda has, I don't know, 30 something.
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Yeah.
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So we didn't.
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Okay.
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So it wasn't like the equivalent of 30 grams of sugar with from the Olipop, right?
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No, no, because for us it's really about what are those real world implications, right?
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And I think, you know, we're really trying to show people that you can have a better for you product that tastes just as delicious as that traditional soda does, but has a more favorable impact.
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And so again, we wanted to have that real world, right?
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Someone's going in and getting traditional cola, what would it look like if you swap to that better for you olipop?
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So now you're gonna have to measure how many, you know, grams of sugar you saved for the country, not just grams of fiber.
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So we actually we actually do measure that as well.
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So we do.
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This one takes, you know, we have to make some assumptions into that, right?
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And so it's really, you know, if if we say that for every olipop sold, it was replacing a traditional so soda in our um food supply, um, it was it's about 62 million pounds of sugar that we've removed from the American diet.
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So I think we make a make a big impact.
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We are, yeah.
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So I want to switch gears just a little bit and talk about hydration because I think that's the third piece for GLP one that we don't talk about.
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It's like the protein, the fiber, and then the hydration, which is just as important.
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So, why is this more challenging for people on GLP1 medications?
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Yeah.
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So I think obviously we hear a lot about the impact that GLP one has on our appetite.
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GLP1s can also suppress our thirst.
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Um, and I think drinks, you know, beverages or hydration doesn't get enough attention.
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Um, and I think that's not just for GLP1s.
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I think when we talk about nutrition, everyone thinks food and we forget about the impact that beverages can play on our um nutrition.
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And so, you know, when we think about GLP1s, it's, you know, you're just not as thirsty.
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And so, you know, you're also not eating as much.
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And so when you don't sit down and eat, you may also just unintentionally not be consuming as much, as many fluids.
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But then also I think we have to think about those side effects too, right?
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And so, especially those GI side effects, things like nausea may make people just not feel like drinking.
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Um, and then also their side effects, you know, vomiting, diarrhea that can actually, you know, require more fluid intake.
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So hydration becomes really important.
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Right.
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So, how much should we be hydrating?
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Like what should people try to consume?
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Yeah, so I mean, the typical recommendations is, you know, I, you know, you often hear like eight, eight ounce classes, right?
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64 ounces.
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I know some people will say, you know, have half of your body weight in ounces, right?
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So think about how many pounds you currently weigh and divide that in half, and that's how many ounces.
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And so I think for, you know, it's really just trying to gauge in there.
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Now, the one thing I will say, a lot of those fluid recommendations are not always for just fluids, right?
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We have to remember too, there are some foods that give us fluids, right?
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Fruits, vegetables.
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Um, and so those can actually contribute to some of your fluid intake as well.
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So does is it have to be water?
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Like what people always ask me, does coffee count?
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Does tea count?
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Does soda count?
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So it doesn't have to just be water, right?
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I mean, obviously water is a a great choice, right?
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As dietitians, we often recommend water first.
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But I know for some people that's just not realistic.
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It's, you know, not fun to just drink water.
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I mean, I drink water all the time.
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I like but I think, you know, for for a lot of people, water is not their go-to, right?
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And so, you know, sparkling waters can count, herbal teas, you know, better for you sodas like Alipop, like all of that will contribute to your fluid intake over the course of a day.
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Yes.
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I think people get really like wrapped up in their what are they drinking or what are they?
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But I think as long as it's at at least fluids, it's gonna be enough.
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What about carbonation?
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I feel like it sometimes depends on the person for the GLP one.
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So it's very individualized.
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And so, you know, some people can tolerate carbonation, some people may not be able to tolerate carbonation.
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I mean, interestingly, we've done some research at Alipop.
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We looked at some shopper habits um research through numerator.
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And and what we found, we did this research at the end of 2025.
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Um, and what we found was that among GLP1 households, both active and lapsed, functional sodas like prebiotic sodas were actually the top growing category across both food and beverage.
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So I do think that to us, at least says that you know, there's a place for prebiotic sodas among GLP one users.
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They are turning to those.
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So I think for you know, for that subset of population, I think carbonation works.
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But again, it will be very individualized.
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Yeah, I think it just depends like how sometimes you feel really full and like putting carbonation more would be yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, it's not like that all the time.
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I also think um, you know, thinking about timing as well, right?
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So some people may be able, you know, to tolerate a carbonated beverage more as like a standalone versus with a meal.
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That's where we always try to position Alipop's a great option too, like if you need that afternoon pick-me-up, right?
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You want something crisp, refreshing, you know, and so it might be a nice little treat in the afternoon, uh, maybe separate from a meal.
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Whereas again, some people will tolerate it with a meal.
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So I think you just have to kind of figure out what works best for you.
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Yeah.
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And I think the other piece that maybe you're seeing with the GLP one households buying more of the functional things is that it's like a two-in-one.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Like it helps you get your fiber plus your hydration.
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And I think that when you can't eat very much or drink very much, that really is useful.
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So like I've been seeing like protein powders with fiber in them now.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, well, because I think it's, you know, we always say that you have to kind of make every sip count, right?
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And so I think for, you know, individuals that are using GLP1 medications, I think that is really important to make every calorie count.
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And so to try to find those foods and beverages that are gonna kind of give you, you know, more bang for your buck, so to speak, I think it's really important for consumers.
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I think in terms of beverages, we've also seen in some consumer research that, you know, GLP1 users are looking to reduce sugar sweetened beverages as well.
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Right.
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And so I think us making a that healthier swab like an Alipop allows you to reduce your sugar intake as well.
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The bonus, you get the fiber in there.
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Yeah.
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And then you still kind of get that soda experience, um, which is why I think it's, you know, Alipop's really resonating well with that GLP one user.
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Yeah.
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And then where in the conversation about hydration, where do electrolytes fall?
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So I think electrolytes um can be important.
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Uh I think it again, it's probably gonna be really individualized for the individual.
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Um, you know, where it may be more important is if you're really having some of those side effects, like, you know, vomiting, diarrhea.
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I think replacing electrolytes will be important.
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But that's where I always encourage people, you know, obviously we're dietitians, work with a dietitian because it will be individualized, I think, for people.
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Right, right.
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I think there's a there's this doctor online who is like, oh, all GLP1 users need electrolytes.
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And I'm like, not really.
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You know, it's like, yes, like hot days, get yourself some electrolytes.
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You're walking at Disney World, like go do that.
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Like that's great, but it's not like a across the board thing.
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And so that gets kind of pulled together, pulled together with the hydration conversation as well.
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And that's like, you know, I don't know.
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People blanket statements.
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For us dietitians, we like we like the nuance.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So if somebody wanted to make some improvements to their diet or beverage choices, they're trying to get away from the sugar sweetened beverages, the excess calories and sugar.
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What are some like suggestions that you might make, like small changes that they could make in their hydration?
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Yeah, I mean, for me, I think the first tip I always tell people is just become aware, right?
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Because like I said before, people we think nutrition, we think food, we don't think about our beverage choices.
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So I think just the first thing is to just be aware of like, what are your beverage choices today, right?
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What are you consuming?
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Are you getting enough fluids?
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You know, and then, you know, what do those fluids look like?
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Are they sugar sweetened beverages, right?
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So, where can you kind of make some healthier swaps?
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Uh so if you are consuming sugar-sweetened beverages, right, can you choose a better for you product that has less sugar, like Olipop?
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And then also think about, you know, we talked about, you know, adding in those that nutrition, right?
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Getting the biggest bang for your buck, so to speak.
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And so I think thinking too, like, what are some of those nutrients you may need to be adding into your diet?
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And can you find beverages that are going to help you get there?
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So we talked about fiber, right?
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And I think that's where Olipop can really support people if they're looking to reduce sugar, but also looking to get more fiber into their diet.
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Right, right.
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Yeah, I think finding the two and ones are are the secret.
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So we are here at the Food Nutrition Conference and Expo.
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Yes.
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Uh, our big annual dietitian conference, and there is a lot happening.
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I said we're not sleeping for four days.
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We do not sleep, no sleep allowed at dietitian conferences, coffee and bananas or olipop, I should say.
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Fueling our days.
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So, what are some of the things that you're really looking forward to this year and that you want to check out or learn about?
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Yeah.
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So for me, Fancy, uh, I love the Expo Hall.
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So just walking the Expo Hall, seeing kind of what other brands are doing, what products are out there.
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A lot of brands will, you know, highlight some of their new products that they've launched this year or that they're going to launch in the following year.
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So I love, I think coming from that product development world, I love seeing kind of what's new, um, what's out there to help support consumers and really what's using science to do that, right?
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And then for us at Ollipop, we have a booth here at Fenty this year.
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We've been here actually since I think 2019 was the first year we exhibited at Fenty.
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So really since we've launched as a brand.
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And I'm really excited.
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This year at our booth, we uh, as I said, we refreshed our digital dietitian toolkit.
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So it has great information for dietitians about the research we're doing, about our different product lines that we have.
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We have lots of recipe cards for some fun mocktails.
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And then we also have some information about the fact that Alipop is included in all major retail supplemental benefit programs.
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So for individuals who may have Medicare Advantage or an employer-based program where they get certain benefits for healthy foods and beverages, people can actually use those benefits for Alipop.
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And a lot of people don't realize that.
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Interesting.
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So again, it goes back to our mission of wanting to impact human health and really make sure our product is accessible to people.
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And so that's one of the avenues we've, you know, opened up so that we can make it accessible and affordable for individuals.
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Yeah.
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And so I'm really excited about that, all of that.
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Yeah, I think there's it's the sessions feel different this year too.
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Uh a lot of GLP1 sessions, but then it's been kind of interesting.
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Like there's a lot on AI too, which is also interesting.
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Uh, I I think it's like they're trying to stay up with what the latest things are.
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Yeah, you know.
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Yeah, it's exciting.
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And I think it's exciting to kind of see, you know, just the dietitians here at Fency and all the areas that dietitians work in, right?
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I think it years ago it used to be so focused on clinical.
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And I think there's so many more opportunities, which is really exciting.
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Um, yeah, so I'm I'm also gonna attend a couple sessions and learn a little bit, get some continuing education credits.
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And yeah.
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Yeah, that's I think that's like the fun of it all is trying to learn.
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But yeah, it's really interesting how the profession is changing so much.
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I'm seeing a change.
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I didn't, I never came to Fency because I didn't want to sit through clinical nutrition sessions because I wasn't a clinical dietitian.
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So, but then I, you know, realized that maybe there was more to it.
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So anyway, it's it's I'm glad that they're trying to keep up with the times.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I think they and I think they do a great job with those different tracks, right?
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Because I think as dietitians, we can we practice in lots of different areas, and so there's still that clinical track.
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There's a community nutrition, there's you know, I think there's a lot for dietitians.
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I think plus I heard there's over 8,000 dietitians that registered for Fancy.
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So there's a lot of us here this weekend.
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I know.
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Awesome.
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Well, thank you so much, Courtney.
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This was such a pleasure to talk to you about everything you guys are doing.
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Olipop to get fiber into the American diet and reduce the sugar too at the same time.
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Yes.
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No, and thank you again so much for having me on.
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This is great.
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They want to learn more about where to get the Olipop, what where can they go?
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What do they do?
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I always encourage people um check out our website.
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It's drinkollipop.com.
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And so we have lots of great information on there.
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We have a blog um with information.
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We also have our product locator, so you can type in your address and it will tell you, you know, where you can find Olipop at the closest store near you.
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We're in over 65,000 retail doors, so you can find us most places.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, we went to Sprouts just this weekend and there was a big refrigerator full.
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And my kid was like, Oh, I want this one, I want this one, I want this one.
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We came out with like eight different cans.
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Yeah.
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We just launched our pomegranate sparkle from the season.
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It's it's my favorite.
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It's so good.
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They better not have drank it while I'm here.
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We have more at our booth.
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Come check out.
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I'll come to the booth.
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Thank you again, Courtney.
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I appreciate it.
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Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the GLP One Hub podcast.
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I loved being able to chat in person with my friend Courtney all about fiber.
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It was a really good time to be able to take the podcast on the road to Fenty and talk to my friends in person.
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And thank you to Olipop for sponsoring this episode.
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Learn more at drinkollipop.com or look for those Ollipop cans at your local grocery store.
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And I'll see you in the next episode.