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Welcome to the podcast where Smokeshow co-founders Rena Sapon-White and Ella Schaefer take a break from writing sapphic novels and indie films to talk all things queer mediaâbooks, movies, TV, and everything in between.
Welcome to the podcast where Smokeshow co-founders Rena Sapon-White and Ella Schaefer take a break from writing sapphic novels and indie films to talk all things queer mediaâbooks, movies, TV, and everything in between.
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Itâs Halloweek, and Rena and Ella are back from a longer-than-planned Smokebreak break with Hitchcockâs gothic classic Rebecca. They tackle the filmâs queerness around the Hayes Code, Laurence Olivierâs big looksmaxxer energy, and the nuns who apparently made Rebeccaâs underwear. Plus: gay HalloweeâĻ
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Rena and Ella dig into Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma, Jane Schoenbrunn's genre-defying queer horror-romance that left Rena in tears in the theater. They unpack the film's take on gender euphoria, reclaiming the "queer villain" trope, and why they think it's one of the most importanâĻ
This week: addressing the incels in the comments, unpacking The Wrong Girls (and the similar script Ella once wrote), and raving about Leviticusâa tight, terrifying, surprisingly hopeful queer horror film about conversion therapy.The Wrong Girls is in theaters and Leviticus is streaming now!https:/âĻ
Rena and Ella kick off SmokeBreak discussing Maddie's Secret, John Early's satirical send-up of 80s disease-of-the-week movies and modern foodie-influencer culture. They dig into how patriarchy shapes eating disorders, the ingÊnue trope, and why rating movies out of ten is inherently patriarchal (nâĻ
This is Smokebreak, a podcast where we--the Smokeshow founders--take a break from our work as writer/directors to chat about queer stories of all kinds.
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