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Heather is joined by her bosom friend, Diana Lacey to talk about what it's like to be a midwife, especially when you have to deliver difficult news. Being a midwife of truth can be painful for both the messenger and the receiver.  Heather and Diana talk about Mary, the women at the tomb, and o…

Dude and Woman is a short bonus conversation following each full episode. Listen to the Liahni Chandler episode first.  Every morning, Liahni thanks two people by name. Neither of them is alive to hear it. That's what was on my mind after talking with Liahni about receiving both a liver and a …

Liahni Chandler is an executive management professional and a two-time recipient of the gift of life — a liver and a kidney. The transplants changed her career path: she left the corporate world and eventually landed at the Ronald McDonald House. She says it taught her to understand the word "…

Dude and Woman is a short bonus conversation following each full episode. Listen to the McArthur Krishna episode first. Would an accountant think it makes financial sense for a company to pay for an employee's personal growth? That was the question I had for Dude who is a CFO and always watchi…

 MacArthur Krishna married at 37 and gave birth to just one of her three daughters. She built a career as a river guide, window washer, forest service archaeologist, and businesswoman before she ever published a book — seventeen of them, so far. Six months ago, a professor called out of nowhere and…

Dude and Woman is a short bonus conversation following each full episode. Listen to the Terri Petersen episode first. Being covered in clay isn't really protection. It's more like being told you're not worth uncovering. That's what stuck with me after talking with Terri Petersen…

Terri is a yoga instructor, a personal trainer for over 40 years, and a docent at the Museum of the Bible — and now calls herself a Buddhist Mormon. She spent her twenties and thirties following a script: BYU, marriage in the temple, five kids, stay-at-home mom. She calls it outsourcing her life ch…

Dude and Woman is a short bonus conversation following each full episode. Listen to the Amy Jensen episode first. From the stand, you can see who's missing. That's what I couldn't stop thinking about after talking with Amy Jensen. Not who's watching you. Who you can watch. Who c…

Amy Jensen's first reaction to being invited onto the stand was to say no. It sounded like one more assignment. Her daughters' reaction changed her mind, and she saw how it changed the ward to see who leads.  Then came another no.  She was told she could no longer sit with the male leader…