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One day I guess I'll have to tell my great gasping story on my like a horrible origin story I have.
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It's a weird phenomenon that I have literature-based stories to share on a podcast about movies.
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The short of it is the only art I consumed was usually to find some way to relate to girls.
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I don't know why I watched Seasons of Gance and Neon Genesis Evangelian.
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I don't know why I'd lose sleep staying up every night for the Cobra report.
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And I know the only books I read in middle school and high school were at the recommendations of my crushes.
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I would have probably read better stuff if I was thinking less with my penis.
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Would reading Anne Rice, Chuck Polonick, and Brett Easton Ellis make Teenage You an avid reader?
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It certainly didn't to me.
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In my mid-20s, I rediscovered the shipwreck that was my love for written word.
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And if you're scrolling on Reddit late at night, trust me, you want a book.
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Now why Christopher Nolan doesn't give a fuck about the internet's response to his movie trailers and casting and screen size?
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Because the man could pick up a book and turn it into amazing work of art.
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In the year 2002, Year of the Mothman Prophecies, this is a podcast covering that movie, and I promise I'm gonna get back to there.
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Roger Avery adapts Bred Easton Ellis' The Rules of Attraction, and it's a great movie.
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It holds up.
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And it's a situation where the adaptation is a better way to experience the story.
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I don't have a list, but I'll say this is one of the rare movies better than the book.
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And one thing that elevates the rules of attraction is the soundtrack.
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Now, I'm telling a story, remember?
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The girl I had a crush on is having a birthday, and because she loves this movie, I'm gonna get her the book it's based on and the soundtrack.
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I'm so embarrassed in the present I might develop time travel just to shoot the younger me before he poisons my memories.
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But we're in the 2000s.
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How do I accomplish this?
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We have Barnes and Noble, an oldie and a goody, great way to waste a bunch of money during uh the holiday season, and a great way to not run into any of the people you graduated high school with.
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Then we had options for CDs, but they were limited.
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And this was the magic trick that destroyed an industry.
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I had experience in peer-to-peer sharing, and with a few clicks and downloading mostly recordings of Bill Clinton denying his sexual relationship with Monica Lewinsky, which was the original Rick Roll, if you remember.
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Anyways, I got the OST, burned it to a disc, and to seal the deal, I got her Peter Jackson's film Braindead, known in the States as Dead Alive.
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At the time she was a huge Lord of the Rings fan, and that movie didn't go over well.
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I guess it didn't have enough hobbits in it.
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Anyways, before the introduction of streaming, if you downloaded something off of BearShare or my best friend LimeWare, you'd drag it into iTunes and burn a copy, and then it would be trafficked onto your MP3 player where it would live forever.
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This is before data asset management for me, and I became so obsessed with the soundtrack to a movie I had barely seen, and we're magically at my point.
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Tom and Andy were discovered by a young Mark Pellington when he was working at MTV making music videos.
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Pellington directed previously covered Arlington Road as well as the Mothman Prophecies.
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Ta-da! Tom and Andy have already delivered scores for Avery and Pellington movies, and this year, 2002, they do both of these, which could not be more different from one another.
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In Rules of Attraction, the tempo is and vibes are up to match the setting and editing style.
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It's a banging techno and dance mix.
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Took a charter flight EC 10 to London, landed at Pico, took a cab at the city center.
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Don't let people lie to you, hospitals are really ugly.
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I'm staying in Home House, the most beautiful hotel in the world.
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Called a friend from school who was telling Hash but she wasn't in, and met a couple of friends who take me to a ball play that's Camden Street.
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I flirt a bit at the Virgin Megastore, buy some CB, then followed some girls take care.
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I wandered around trying to get late, a postcard in the rain, then went back to Home House.
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Mystery's town is dead, so I go to REM for, but it's game night.
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I find the one head over girl in the place we got off with the dance floor.
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Have it back to home house.
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I took her clothes off, stuck her toes on her butt.
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Hung out for four or five days, let the world's biggest D Dick all over control, missing the changing of the guard.
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Roll my mouth postcard I never spent.
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Bought some speed from a tiny ducky who was trying to tell me a store and bite.
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Smoked a lot of hash that had too much tobacco with it.
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Saw the tape, saw big pen, ate a lot of weird English food.
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It rained a lot, it was expensive, and I'm Jonesing, so I clicked for Amsterdam.
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The Dutch all know English, so I didn't have to speak any Dutch, which was a relief.
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I cruised the red light desert, visit a sex show, visit a sex museum, smoke a lot of hash.
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I need a Dutch TV actor so we drink abs instead of bar called abs.
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Whereas in the Mothman Prophecies, they make a slow and boring as fuck movie, attention-filled thriller, by giving a morose but fairly catchy trip hop style that is very portisant.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Screen Generation, a podcast about the films released by Sony under the label Screen Gems.
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I'm your host, Evan Hughes, recording in beautiful Las Cruces, New Mexico, where the pot smoke rests slow on the ground like a light fog, giving the roadrunners and chupacabras cover from the larger predators.
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I realized I just called this movie boring.
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And it's not boring.
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It's just 20 minutes too long.
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When I was uh talking with Andrew about Ghosts of Mars, we mentioned it looked like an episode of Star Trek.
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This is like a long episode of X-Files, and if it was, I see Will Patton taking home an Emmy.
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The problem is now coverage of an investigation is really helped when you have an open-minded Agent Moulder and a straight-up smoke show in Dana Scully, who shuts him down and conducts autopsies.
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We're going to cover more movies scored by Tom and Andy.
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A few Resident Evils, The Covenant.
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I still don't want to actually talk about this movie.
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I mean, and there's a lot of good things about this movie.
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The crane work is fantastic.
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Most of the visual effects are done in camera and they look divine.
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Oh, maybe that's the reason.
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I'm in withdrawals from 2 can play that game.
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And it's it's not only because this movie is not as fun, it's just so white.
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Like, there's not a person of color in 120 minutes of movie.
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And I get it we're set in West Virginia, but he works out of DC.
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Alright, so this very white cast is really great in this movie, and they have to be to keep the audience's attention.
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Especially Will Patton, who is good regardless of what movie he's in.
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That dude's in the postman, he's solid.
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And I mean he gets electrocuted in the horrible movie The Green Mile, and he's solid in that.
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If anything, Richard Gere is the fish out of water here.
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He says this is the scariest movie that he's in, and his iconic white hair is darkened in this film, which is always a strange look.
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Last week, I was able to break down the plot of the movie in one sentence.
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This isn't gonna be one of those weeks.
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The movie starts off with Richard Gere as a journalist who has just closed a house in DC.
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Notice it's winter in DC.
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Otherwise, the neighborhood would look like Houston.
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On the way home, Deborah Messing crashes their beamer and dies of cancer in the next five minutes.
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It's really messed up how they just off her, but not quickly.
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She could have died in the car crash, not cancer, but they decide that.
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Then a recovering gear who clearly just doesn't want to hang out with his boss decides to take a late-night drive from DC to Richmond to be prepared for an interview with the government of Virginia tomorrow.
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His car breaks down in West Virginia, which is not on the way to Richmond, and we meet our supporting cast.
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Will Patton, who thinks he's being haunted by gear, and Laura Linney, who plays a small town sheriff, who is constantly ripping on gear for being upper class and assuming their backwoodsiness.
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I'm joking, but she'll say stuff like, Well, my daddy was a woodchuck and my mama was a mercury.
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And immediately she practically deputizes Gear and shares everything about the paranormal investigation she's conducting.
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There's lots of drawings and old ladies to question.
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There's a publish professor who Gear scares into spilling some spooky beans.
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And the rest of this movie, until the climax on the bridge, is on the phone.
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I'm not kidding.
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The Mothman introduces himself to Gere over the phone.
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Gear is doing research exclusively on the phone.
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Sometimes Will Patton calls and it actually turns out to be the Mothman.
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Sometimes the Mothman leaves clues, but they're super vague, like the plot of this movie, so Gere misinterprets them and makes a fool of himself.
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It really reminds me of the back and forth and forgetting Sarah Marshall.
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Check it, listen.
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Obviously.
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Did you like it?
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The movie?
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Yeah.
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It was an awful bloody film.
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I see it's just ridiculous.
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Premise uh, oh, what would happen if your mobile phone killed you?
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Why would a mobile phone kill anyone?
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Doesn't make sense.
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How can a mobile phone have an agenda and kill people?
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I told her that when she read the script.
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Yeah, you were a voice of reason, mate.
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I tried to do, but she didn't listen.
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Going around killing people with a mobile phone, like doing murders.
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Why couldn't you just take the battery out of the phone?
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Right, that's it.
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The battle's over.
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Yeah, we've won.
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I hated it.
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Well, it's not for everyone, but it it No, it's ridiculous.
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Here's my favorite scene.
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Bing bing.
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Hello.
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Yeah, it could never happen.
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No, it could never happen.
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It's a metaphor for addiction to technology.
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For society, for how we're relying on technology.
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I get it, I'm with you.
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It's a metaphor for a crap movie.
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Well, it was the right thing.
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So the Mothman message is that there's going to be a disaster on the river.
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And there's a big chemical plant that Patton won't stop talking about, so it looks like a great target.
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After there's no disaster and Patton is found dead outside, gear packs up and goes home.
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Then he gets lonely and doubles back to do what I assume involves Laura Lenny, some handcuffs, and a crackling fire.
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Then, in line at the bridge, a traffic jam overloads it and begins to be have the most impressive collapsing sequence.
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A true accomplishment of practical visual effects.
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It it's worth watching an hour and 40 minutes of this movie to get to.
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And so you don't get calls.
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So it helps continue the shrinking of not doing it that way because people don't know that.
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Oh, those were really models?
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I'll go but look at that again.
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I have I hear that all the time from people in the industry mentioning Mothman prophecies with the bridge falling down at the end.
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Well, yeah, so so so some of that was modeled.
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All of it was models, folks.
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All of it.
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Question it, you know, except you should, because if you think about it for a second and a half, there's no way in the world that you're gonna shoot a movie and have a suspension bridge like that, a thousand, fifteen hundred feet long suspension bridge, live, full scale.
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A sequence that lasts eight minutes, that you know you can't shoot all at once, falls apart like that.
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There's no way that you're gonna do that full scale.
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You can't afford it.
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That'd be big the budget to do that one sequence would be more than your whole movie, four times over.
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So, the climax of this movie being so exciting and well done makes this movie unofficially a slow burn version of like Final Destination.
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Actually, let's compare them because Final Destination becomes a franchise with hits and misses, but a franchise to a studio and distributor are like printing money.
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I know the bigger the franchise, the harder the continuity, uh a la Marvel Cinematic Universe, but horror properties are less married to their lore.
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And using Final Destination as an example, the first film is a surprise hit made for 23 million and it makes 112 worldwide.
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Over the five following pictures, the total budget for each Final Destination movie is a little over$200 million, and that return is$985 million.
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What do Mothman Prophecies and Final Destination have in common?
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They're not really scary.
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Will Patton and telephones are the scariest thing in the Mothman Prophecies, and in uh Final Destination, it's violent and gross, but it's fun watching these dense people with like situational irony.
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Alright, they both have nondescript villains describe Mothman or the Force of Death and I'll wait.
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But the difference is the Mothman Prophecies waits and shoots its shot at the end.
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Uh Jeepers Creepers even gets two sequels in a reboot.
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That winged thing eats kids' eyes and tongues in rural America.
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Does that not have a Mothman vibe?
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Alright, I'm I'm sounding like the bridge collapse is the only good thing in this movie.
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For being a movie with very little going on, it looks fantastic.
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This movie is shot by Fred Murphy, who also shot Hoosier's, who also shot Autofocus this same year, 2002, our year of the Mothman, and next year is gonna shoot Freddy vs.
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Jason.
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Isn't it nice when horror movies get sequels?
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And Murphy must have loved playing with the crane in this movie because he's getting all the fun angles and movement.
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There is one shot in particular.
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It is in a hospital where Gear is talking to a doctor, and it is funny to notice that the camera is outside of the building for some reason.
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Then you realize it's not a catwalk, a story up, and you're watching it like a dude who can fly.
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So on my Arlington Road episode, I mentioned Mark Pellington's protagonists are often sad, grieving men, and it's not a wrong observation.
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But I looked further into Pellington, and two years after this movie comes out, he loses his wife.
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She was a costume designer, and he had this to say about losing her.
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In the summer of 2004, my wife passed away suddenly and tragically.
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It was unexpected and screwed up and wrong.
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It turned my world upside down as a man, a husband, and a father of a two and a half-year-old girl.
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I was thrown into a hole of despair and blackness that I would never want anyone else to experience, yet know others do every day.
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Everyone has suffered and lost and been dealt an unfair card.
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I'm no different.
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These experiences change us forever, shape us, and make us who we are, for better or for worse.
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He said that in an interview promoting his film Henry Pools Here, which is more optimistic and deals with a lot of the themes he's already played with before.
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And he's made other movies, but most recently he had a project fall apart.
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Lone Wolf was starring Lily Gladstone, Brian Cranston, and Ocea Jackson.
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And that can't be right, but Chet Hanks.
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Last year, 2025, the year of the Tron Aries, they're shooting it out in our Big Brother City, Albuquerque, and something happens on production and people in the crew stop getting paid.
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They allegedly rap shooting, but the stars are pissed with the studio, so the movie might get dumped without anyone promoting it.
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Okay, I think this is going to be uh kind of almost our ending point.
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I uh I I if I want to score this thing, it's very much like Arlington Road for me, I'd probably give it a 7 out of 10.
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Um I it's interesting because the Pellington movies are easier to find in a streaming service than via DVD, which is not the case for a lot of these other Screen Gems titles.
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Okay, this is gonna wrap up my research, and next week we're gonna be changing genre again.
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We got a teen comedy and it bombed.
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Roger Ebert gave it zero out of four stars.
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So you know it's gonna be a great time on screen generation.
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The podcast about films released by Sony under their label Screen Gems.
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Play the trailer for slackers.
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I don't want you to worry about finishing the exam.
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No one ever does.
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It's the way I designed it.
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So just finish writing whenever you're you, little red riding hood.
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Stop writing.
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You can stop writing, sir.
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It's fruitless.
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Congratulations.
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You just got enough.
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Do you even know my name?
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No, I don't.
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Dave and his friends were the biggest campers on campus.
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We've done this before.
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Let's do it again.
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There was nothing they couldn't get away with.
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First Marco, I got hit by a truck today.
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Are you okay?
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Got hit by a truck.
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Until they met the one guy.
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I know what you did.
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I was there, I stopped.
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Cheaters.
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I stood right next to you, remember me?
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They couldn't get away from I got the proof.
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I'm afraid you expel you.
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What do you want?
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Money, free dry cleaning, Europass.
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Oh, I don't a Europass?
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No, no!
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I want you to get me a girl.
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I'm not gonna eat that, you retire.
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No one calls me a retard.
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You freaking hope!
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The story about black girls.
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Bring me the girl's aid.
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You and your friends are going down.
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Really hate it.
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That's cool.
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Oh my god.
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Lovers.
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His name's Ethan.
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He really likes it.
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Oh shut up! Ah!
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Beautiful.
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And a guy with a special friend is the quiet hair dog.
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I mean, it's not a good thing.
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I can do it.
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As your attorney, I can't advise us.
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First of all, the guy that I like is your friend Dave.
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Dave! Yeah, fudge!
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Is this my hair dog?
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I didn't make that!
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Alright, that's next week.
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One day I guess I'll have to tell my great gasping story on my like a horrible origin story I have.
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It's a weird phenomenon that I have literature-based stories to share on a podcast about movies.
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The short of it is the only art I consumed was usually to find some way to relate to girls.
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I don't know why I watched Seasons of Gance and Neon Genesis Evangelian.
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I don't know why I'd lose sleep staying up every night for the Cobra report.
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And I know the only books I read in middle school and high school were at the recommendations of my crushes.
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I would have probably read better stuff if I was thinking less with my penis.
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Would reading Anne Rice, Chuck Polonick, and Brett Easton Ellis make Teenage You an avid reader?
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It certainly didn't to me.
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In my mid-20s, I rediscovered the shipwreck that was my love for written word.
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And if you're scrolling on Reddit late at night, trust me, you want a book.
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Now why Christopher Nolan doesn't give a fuck about the internet's response to his movie trailers and casting and screen size?
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Because the man could pick up a book and turn it into amazing work of art.
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In the year 2002, Year of the Mothman Prophecies, this is a podcast covering that movie, and I promise I'm gonna get back to there.
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Roger Avery adapts Bred Easton Ellis' The Rules of Attraction, and it's a great movie.
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It holds up.
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And it's a situation where the adaptation is a better way to experience the story.
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I don't have a list, but I'll say this is one of the rare movies better than the book.
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And one thing that elevates the rules of attraction is the soundtrack.
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Now, I'm telling a story, remember?
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The girl I had a crush on is having a birthday, and because she loves this movie, I'm gonna get her the book it's based on and the soundtrack.
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I'm so embarrassed in the present I might develop time travel just to shoot the younger me before he poisons my memories.
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But we're in the 2000s.
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How do I accomplish this?
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We have Barnes and Noble, an oldie and a goody, great way to waste a bunch of money during uh the holiday season, and a great way to not run into any of the people you graduated high school with.
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Then we had options for CDs, but they were limited.
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And this was the magic trick that destroyed an industry.
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I had experience in peer-to-peer sharing, and with a few clicks and downloading mostly recordings of Bill Clinton denying his sexual relationship with Monica Lewinsky, which was the original Rick Roll, if you remember.
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Anyways, I got the OST, burned it to a disc, and to seal the deal, I got her Peter Jackson's film Braindead, known in the States as Dead Alive.
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At the time she was a huge Lord of the Rings fan, and that movie didn't go over well.
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I guess it didn't have enough hobbits in it.
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Anyways, before the introduction of streaming, if you downloaded something off of BearShare or my best friend LimeWare, you'd drag it into iTunes and burn a copy, and then it would be trafficked onto your MP3 player where it would live forever.
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This is before data asset management for me, and I became so obsessed with the soundtrack to a movie I had barely seen, and we're magically at my point.
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Tom and Andy were discovered by a young Mark Pellington when he was working at MTV making music videos.
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Pellington directed previously covered Arlington Road as well as the Mothman Prophecies.
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Ta-da! Tom and Andy have already delivered scores for Avery and Pellington movies, and this year, 2002, they do both of these, which could not be more different from one another.
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In Rules of Attraction, the tempo is and vibes are up to match the setting and editing style.
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It's a banging techno and dance mix.
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Took a charter flight EC 10 to London, landed at Pico, took a cab at the city center.
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Don't let people lie to you, hospitals are really ugly.
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I'm staying in Home House, the most beautiful hotel in the world.
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Called a friend from school who was telling Hash but she wasn't in, and met a couple of friends who take me to a ball play that's Camden Street.
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I flirt a bit at the Virgin Megastore, buy some CB, then followed some girls take care.
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I wandered around trying to get late, a postcard in the rain, then went back to Home House.
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Mystery's town is dead, so I go to REM for, but it's game night.
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I find the one head over girl in the place we got off with the dance floor.
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Have it back to home house.
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I took her clothes off, stuck her toes on her butt.
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Hung out for four or five days, let the world's biggest D Dick all over control, missing the changing of the guard.
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Roll my mouth postcard I never spent.
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Bought some speed from a tiny ducky who was trying to tell me a store and bite.
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Smoked a lot of hash that had too much tobacco with it.
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Saw the tape, saw big pen, ate a lot of weird English food.
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It rained a lot, it was expensive, and I'm Jonesing, so I clicked for Amsterdam.
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The Dutch all know English, so I didn't have to speak any Dutch, which was a relief.
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I cruised the red light desert, visit a sex show, visit a sex museum, smoke a lot of hash.
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I need a Dutch TV actor so we drink abs instead of bar called abs.
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Whereas in the Mothman Prophecies, they make a slow and boring as fuck movie, attention-filled thriller, by giving a morose but fairly catchy trip hop style that is very portisant.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Screen Generation, a podcast about the films released by Sony under the label Screen Gems.
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I'm your host, Evan Hughes, recording in beautiful Las Cruces, New Mexico, where the pot smoke rests slow on the ground like a light fog, giving the roadrunners and chupacabras cover from the larger predators.
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I realized I just called this movie boring.
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And it's not boring.
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It's just 20 minutes too long.
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When I was uh talking with Andrew about Ghosts of Mars, we mentioned it looked like an episode of Star Trek.
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This is like a long episode of X-Files, and if it was, I see Will Patton taking home an Emmy.
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The problem is now coverage of an investigation is really helped when you have an open-minded Agent Moulder and a straight-up smoke show in Dana Scully, who shuts him down and conducts autopsies.
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We're going to cover more movies scored by Tom and Andy.
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A few Resident Evils, The Covenant.
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I still don't want to actually talk about this movie.
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I mean, and there's a lot of good things about this movie.
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The crane work is fantastic.
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Most of the visual effects are done in camera and they look divine.
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Oh, maybe that's the reason.
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I'm in withdrawals from 2 can play that game.
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And it's it's not only because this movie is not as fun, it's just so white.
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Like, there's not a person of color in 120 minutes of movie.
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And I get it we're set in West Virginia, but he works out of DC.
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Alright, so this very white cast is really great in this movie, and they have to be to keep the audience's attention.
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Especially Will Patton, who is good regardless of what movie he's in.
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That dude's in the postman, he's solid.
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And I mean he gets electrocuted in the horrible movie The Green Mile, and he's solid in that.
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If anything, Richard Gere is the fish out of water here.
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He says this is the scariest movie that he's in, and his iconic white hair is darkened in this film, which is always a strange look.
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Last week, I was able to break down the plot of the movie in one sentence.
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This isn't gonna be one of those weeks.
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The movie starts off with Richard Gere as a journalist who has just closed a house in DC.
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Notice it's winter in DC.
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Otherwise, the neighborhood would look like Houston.
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On the way home, Deborah Messing crashes their beamer and dies of cancer in the next five minutes.
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It's really messed up how they just off her, but not quickly.
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She could have died in the car crash, not cancer, but they decide that.
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Then a recovering gear who clearly just doesn't want to hang out with his boss decides to take a late-night drive from DC to Richmond to be prepared for an interview with the government of Virginia tomorrow.
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His car breaks down in West Virginia, which is not on the way to Richmond, and we meet our supporting cast.
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Will Patton, who thinks he's being haunted by gear, and Laura Linney, who plays a small town sheriff, who is constantly ripping on gear for being upper class and assuming their backwoodsiness.
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I'm joking, but she'll say stuff like, Well, my daddy was a woodchuck and my mama was a mercury.
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And immediately she practically deputizes Gear and shares everything about the paranormal investigation she's conducting.
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There's lots of drawings and old ladies to question.
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There's a publish professor who Gear scares into spilling some spooky beans.
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And the rest of this movie, until the climax on the bridge, is on the phone.
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I'm not kidding.
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The Mothman introduces himself to Gere over the phone.
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Gear is doing research exclusively on the phone.
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Sometimes Will Patton calls and it actually turns out to be the Mothman.
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Sometimes the Mothman leaves clues, but they're super vague, like the plot of this movie, so Gere misinterprets them and makes a fool of himself.
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It really reminds me of the back and forth and forgetting Sarah Marshall.
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Check it, listen.
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Obviously.
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Did you like it?
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The movie?
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Yeah.
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It was an awful bloody film.
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I see it's just ridiculous.
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Premise uh, oh, what would happen if your mobile phone killed you?
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Why would a mobile phone kill anyone?
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Doesn't make sense.
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How can a mobile phone have an agenda and kill people?
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I told her that when she read the script.
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Yeah, you were a voice of reason, mate.
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I tried to do, but she didn't listen.
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Going around killing people with a mobile phone, like doing murders.
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Why couldn't you just take the battery out of the phone?
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Right, that's it.
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The battle's over.
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Yeah, we've won.
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I hated it.
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Well, it's not for everyone, but it it No, it's ridiculous.
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Here's my favorite scene.
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Bing bing.
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Hello.
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Yeah, it could never happen.
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No, it could never happen.
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It's a metaphor for addiction to technology.
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For society, for how we're relying on technology.
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I get it, I'm with you.
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It's a metaphor for a crap movie.
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Well, it was the right thing.
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So the Mothman message is that there's going to be a disaster on the river.
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And there's a big chemical plant that Patton won't stop talking about, so it looks like a great target.
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After there's no disaster and Patton is found dead outside, gear packs up and goes home.
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Then he gets lonely and doubles back to do what I assume involves Laura Lenny, some handcuffs, and a crackling fire.
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Then, in line at the bridge, a traffic jam overloads it and begins to be have the most impressive collapsing sequence.
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A true accomplishment of practical visual effects.
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It it's worth watching an hour and 40 minutes of this movie to get to.
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And so you don't get calls.
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So it helps continue the shrinking of not doing it that way because people don't know that.
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Oh, those were really models?
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I'll go but look at that again.
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I have I hear that all the time from people in the industry mentioning Mothman prophecies with the bridge falling down at the end.
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Well, yeah, so so so some of that was modeled.
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All of it was models, folks.
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All of it.
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Question it, you know, except you should, because if you think about it for a second and a half, there's no way in the world that you're gonna shoot a movie and have a suspension bridge like that, a thousand, fifteen hundred feet long suspension bridge, live, full scale.
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A sequence that lasts eight minutes, that you know you can't shoot all at once, falls apart like that.
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There's no way that you're gonna do that full scale.
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You can't afford it.
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That'd be big the budget to do that one sequence would be more than your whole movie, four times over.
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So, the climax of this movie being so exciting and well done makes this movie unofficially a slow burn version of like Final Destination.
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Actually, let's compare them because Final Destination becomes a franchise with hits and misses, but a franchise to a studio and distributor are like printing money.
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I know the bigger the franchise, the harder the continuity, uh a la Marvel Cinematic Universe, but horror properties are less married to their lore.
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And using Final Destination as an example, the first film is a surprise hit made for 23 million and it makes 112 worldwide.
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Over the five following pictures, the total budget for each Final Destination movie is a little over$200 million, and that return is$985 million.
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What do Mothman Prophecies and Final Destination have in common?
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They're not really scary.
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Will Patton and telephones are the scariest thing in the Mothman Prophecies, and in uh Final Destination, it's violent and gross, but it's fun watching these dense people with like situational irony.
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Alright, they both have nondescript villains describe Mothman or the Force of Death and I'll wait.
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But the difference is the Mothman Prophecies waits and shoots its shot at the end.
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Uh Jeepers Creepers even gets two sequels in a reboot.
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That winged thing eats kids' eyes and tongues in rural America.
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Does that not have a Mothman vibe?
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Alright, I'm I'm sounding like the bridge collapse is the only good thing in this movie.
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For being a movie with very little going on, it looks fantastic.
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This movie is shot by Fred Murphy, who also shot Hoosier's, who also shot Autofocus this same year, 2002, our year of the Mothman, and next year is gonna shoot Freddy vs.
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Jason.
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Isn't it nice when horror movies get sequels?
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And Murphy must have loved playing with the crane in this movie because he's getting all the fun angles and movement.
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There is one shot in particular.
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It is in a hospital where Gear is talking to a doctor, and it is funny to notice that the camera is outside of the building for some reason.
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Then you realize it's not a catwalk, a story up, and you're watching it like a dude who can fly.
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So on my Arlington Road episode, I mentioned Mark Pellington's protagonists are often sad, grieving men, and it's not a wrong observation.
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But I looked further into Pellington, and two years after this movie comes out, he loses his wife.
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She was a costume designer, and he had this to say about losing her.
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In the summer of 2004, my wife passed away suddenly and tragically.
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It was unexpected and screwed up and wrong.
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It turned my world upside down as a man, a husband, and a father of a two and a half-year-old girl.
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I was thrown into a hole of despair and blackness that I would never want anyone else to experience, yet know others do every day.
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Everyone has suffered and lost and been dealt an unfair card.
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I'm no different.
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These experiences change us forever, shape us, and make us who we are, for better or for worse.
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He said that in an interview promoting his film Henry Pools Here, which is more optimistic and deals with a lot of the themes he's already played with before.
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And he's made other movies, but most recently he had a project fall apart.
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Lone Wolf was starring Lily Gladstone, Brian Cranston, and Ocea Jackson.
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And that can't be right, but Chet Hanks.
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Last year, 2025, the year of the Tron Aries, they're shooting it out in our Big Brother City, Albuquerque, and something happens on production and people in the crew stop getting paid.
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They allegedly rap shooting, but the stars are pissed with the studio, so the movie might get dumped without anyone promoting it.
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Okay, I think this is going to be uh kind of almost our ending point.
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I uh I I if I want to score this thing, it's very much like Arlington Road for me, I'd probably give it a 7 out of 10.
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Um I it's interesting because the Pellington movies are easier to find in a streaming service than via DVD, which is not the case for a lot of these other Screen Gems titles.
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Okay, this is gonna wrap up my research, and next week we're gonna be changing genre again.
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We got a teen comedy and it bombed.
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Roger Ebert gave it zero out of four stars.
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So you know it's gonna be a great time on screen generation.
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The podcast about films released by Sony under their label Screen Gems.
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Play the trailer for slackers.
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I don't want you to worry about finishing the exam.
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No one ever does.
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It's the way I designed it.
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So just finish writing whenever you're you, little red riding hood.
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Stop writing.
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You can stop writing, sir.
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It's fruitless.
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Congratulations.
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You just got enough.
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Do you even know my name?
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No, I don't.
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Dave and his friends were the biggest campers on campus.
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We've done this before.
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Let's do it again.
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There was nothing they couldn't get away with.
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First Marco, I got hit by a truck today.
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Are you okay?
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Got hit by a truck.
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Until they met the one guy.
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I know what you did.
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I was there, I stopped.
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Cheaters.
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I stood right next to you, remember me?
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They couldn't get away from I got the proof.
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I'm afraid you expel you.
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What do you want?
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Money, free dry cleaning, Europass.
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Oh, I don't a Europass?
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No, no!
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I want you to get me a girl.
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I'm not gonna eat that, you retire.
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No one calls me a retard.
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You freaking hope!
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The story about black girls.
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Bring me the girl's aid.
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You and your friends are going down.
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Really hate it.
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That's cool.
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Oh my god.
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Lovers.
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His name's Ethan.
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He really likes it.
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Oh shut up! Ah!
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Beautiful.
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And a guy with a special friend is the quiet hair dog.
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I mean, it's not a good thing.
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I can do it.
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As your attorney, I can't advise us.
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First of all, the guy that I like is your friend Dave.
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Dave! Yeah, fudge!
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Is this my hair dog?
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I didn't make that!
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Alright, that's next week.
