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Speaker 2: This is six thirty k out, Denver's talk stationheart radio station, guaranteed Human.
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Speaker 1: Where news happens.
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Speaker 2: Ryan Schuling live in attendance at the Colorado Christian University debate last night, and our own Tricia Calvaretse had a chance to catch up with Representative Scott Bottoms after the debate.
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Speaker 3: All right, how that feels?
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Speaker 4: That was good?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, got to actually address some deeper things that.
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Speaker 4: That sounds like we haven't got there on some other debates.
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Speaker 3: So so we do grade yourself ten a ten out of ten.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and if we had so a, you're.
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Speaker 4: Giving yourself an A plus. Okay.
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Speaker 1: What you mentioned two times?
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Speaker 4: Jd Vance's Frog.
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Speaker 2: Team, what is that? Explain that a little bit more?
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Speaker 5: So? President Trump put jd Vance in charge of rooting outs fraud across the states. He did this about three months ago, I think it was. And so that's what I've.
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Speaker 4: Been working with.
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Speaker 3: Okay now, and I'm a Democrat, so this is news to me. So Ag phil Wiser is going to be arrested, is that coming soon?
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Speaker 1: And on what charges?
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Speaker 3: And is that going to impact the governor's race?
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Speaker 5: So I do believe that he is going to be indicted, not necessarily arrested, but indicted by the middle of the summer.
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Speaker 4: But that is not the special Auditor thing I was talking. Okay, break that. That's a different thing.
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Speaker 5: The indictment of Wiser and Secretary of State Griswold is on sedition charges. There is four other investigations on Secretary of State Griswold. I don't know if those are going to be brought to indictments before election.
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Speaker 4: I think maybe, but I doubt it.
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Speaker 5: What I'm talking about with the Special Auditor is that Attorney General Wiser was part of fraud, part of moving money, covering up money, giving people special tax break, special job, all that kind of stuff. This was, This was backed up and supported by the certain people in the judicial system and the Supreme Court. And like I said, there are stacks and stacks of paperwork. And as he kept asking me, this has been released its public knowledge for a long time.
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Speaker 4: The DJ has it.
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Speaker 5: It was sent to radio stations, TV stations, everybody has copies of all of this stuff.
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Speaker 4: It's been in court before a handful of times. I ran it.
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Speaker 5: As a special resolution.
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Speaker 4: So it's not like this is hidden information. This is out there.
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Speaker 5: It's out there very very prominently, and every single legislator and senator has a copy of all of the evidence.
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Speaker 3: Now, should Tina Peters be eligible for reparations under President Trump's new fund?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to make sure as governor she she has the ability to sue the state for being improperly incarcerated, illegally and ar serrated and also the victim of.
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Speaker 4: Political political theater.
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Speaker 5: With the judge in Weld County and also Secretary of State Griswel, and also Attorney General Wiser, they all colluded.
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Speaker 4: Together to put her in jail.
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Speaker 5: And one of the main reasons is not just that she had evidence, but because she ran for secretary of State against Attorney General Griswold. You're not allowed to do that in a Democrat controlled state, so they put her in jail.
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Speaker 3: Now, Michael Brown questioned you, so, Deshaun Boyd, on specifics about allegations of pedophilia, whether that's in the state legislature. You did confirm that it was in the House, not necessarily in the Senate. What's your plan for taking on the pedophilia connected in the Epstein files and potential Colorado connections. I really haven't heard anybody talk about that.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've mentioned that at probably twenty different town halls.
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Speaker 4: Okay, so there's two guys in the Epstein files.
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Speaker 5: One of them was directly attached to Governor Polus, one of his close friends. One of the other guys was directly attached to Attorney General Wiser, one of his closest friends. I brought this out over and over. But here's the thing. The same people that are saying we have no pedophilia, we have none of this stuff. They are the friends when the governor attorney general is saying that they're friends with known pedophiles in.
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Speaker 4: The Epstein files.
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Speaker 5: And even though I have said that I don't have any names of a senator, we know that there are people in the Senate, aids, staffers and things like that that are part of the pedophilia. Mister Brown never gave me a chance to finish the question. He kept talking over me. But yes, we do know of actual representatives, and we know of staffers, and we know of places and locations that involves the Governor's office where children are being trafficked and raped, you know.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Mister Brown also pushed.
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Speaker 4: Back on your answer to water.
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Speaker 3: And you said that if you'd get in a little bit more time, you could convince him. So give us if you want to give us your water answer.
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Speaker 5: Well, like I kept trying to tell him, you can own water rights. People all over the state of Colorado have ownership of water rights. They also have ownership of mental rights, but only certain You cannot buy mental rights today. You have to have grandfathered in the mental rights. And if you sell that property, it goes to the state. Well why that used to belong to people. Why wouldn't it not go to the people that buy that property?
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Speaker 4: It belonged to the previous owner. And the same way with water rights.
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Speaker 5: We have people that own water rights, but when they sell it, it goes back to a water board, it goes to a municipality that can buy the water rights. But when somebody buys a piece of land today it's very difficult to buy the water rights.
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Speaker 4: Although for a.
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Speaker 5: Century plus people own the water rights in Colorado. I just told you have a guy that sold the water rights down from the Arkansas River Valley to the city of Aurora.
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Speaker 4: He owned the.
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Speaker 5: Water rights and he owned them for fifty something years. When he sold him. He chose to sell him to Aurora. He could have sold him to a person. But when you sell to people, we sell water rights to people, it's a bigger legal nightmare. And respectfully, mister Brown doesn't know what he's talking about here, specifically with mental rights, water rights, all this, it's a property rights issue.
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Speaker 3: How are you thinking about property rights, water rights, deregulation, the eastern planes, and data centers specifically, I haven't that's a question. I haven't heard anybody ask yet. What's your kind of thoughts on those as those are coming into development.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, data centers are really kind of a different subject, but they encompass some of those other things. There is a new form of data center call coming out. It's called vern and it uses a lot less water. It doesn't overheat the water, it doesn't harm anything. Data centers are already here, so it's not a matter whether we want them here or not.
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Speaker 4: They're already here and they will build more of them.
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Speaker 5: Our responsibility is to guide them and lead that. So it's very beneficial to the people of Colorado first, to the state of Colorado second. Right now everything is about the state of Colorado instead of the people, and we need to reverse to make sure that these are safe and healthy for the people.
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Speaker 3: Now, what is your message to voters about Victor Marx not being here?
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Speaker 5: Sa same o samo. He doesn't come to anything. He's scared a debt to get on a stage with me or Senator Kirkmyer. I think, but I did notice for about six or seven of these forums he was signed up, signed up. Everybody else has signed up. The moment I signed up, he dropped out. So I think he doesn't want to be on the same stage with me. Plus he doesn't know anything. I've said this for a while for a few months. I stand behind it. He will not go to the Channel nine debate, and I think he's going to drop out of the race before the primary.
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Speaker 3: Now, you also mentioned the under thirty crowd. We are at Christian University.
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Speaker 1: Not a lot of young folks out tonight.
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Speaker 3: What's your message to get them off of the sidelines and onto the field.
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Speaker 4: Well, them not being here is not sitting on the sidelines.
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Speaker 5: The under thirty crowd is more educated about all this stuff than anybody that was sitting in this room. They know more of the details, they know what the state's doing, they know all of this other stuff, and so they're not sitting on the sidelines when it comes to voting. And we saw this in the Trump election. They weren't involved in all this stuff. But then but then all of a sudden they were at the polls and they voted, and they helped put Trump on off.
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Speaker 4: The same thing's gonna happen with me.
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Speaker 3: The final question, did you are blue for crossover appeal to Democrats?
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Speaker 4: I wore blue because this is a fine suit.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 1: Back here in Ryan Scherley Lin.
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Speaker 2: I'm taking your calls phone lanes and I'll open three zero three seven one three eight two five five and on the text line five seven seven three nine. As you just heard Representative Scott Bottoms with our own Trisha Calvarets. The interesting political dichotomy there as a Democrat.
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Speaker 1: Having run for office, the office of Congress in the.
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Speaker 2: Fourth Congressional District, posing questions to Representative Bottoms, And I'll give you my experience firsthand of attending that debate at Colorado Christian University from last night. You know we're going to have, or at least we were told they were going to have by CCU, an empty podium for one Victor Marx, and that did not transpire as we had hoped that there would be that representation on stage. They had the two podiums, the three moderators, Michael Brown of KOA, Sean Boyd CBS Colorado four, and then Vince Bizdick of The Gazette. The turnout I thought was rather sparse. I believe that they had originally been sold out. So Victor Marx may have a point there that those that wanted to attend, that wanted to watch him participate in this debate as was originally planned, as was agreed to.
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Speaker 1: Did not show up.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know that there was a lot in terms of students from CCU that attended. Either there were some factions I think that were loyal to either candidate, that being Representative Bottoms or Senator Kirkmeyer who were in attendance, And of course here was truly there representing with RSL and Tricia. I had a conversation with Senator Kirkmeyer. Will have that coming up at the bottom of next The tone and tenor of the debate really got contentious and a little bit spicy at times, as Michael Brown challenged Representative Bottoms on specifics when it comes to claims that he was making and policy positions that he was taking. And I know that just rhymed. I didn't plan it to do that, but it wasn't just Michael Brown. Although he did draw some sneers and snickers and jeers from those assembled that were supporting Representative Bottoms.
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Speaker 1: The one that really stood out to.
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Speaker 2: Me was land usage rights and what are the laws behind those and whether or not you would have claim to water on your own property. There is an issue with that as it pertains to the law, and it's illustrated actually in an episode of Yellowstone that I remember watching, and that is water use rights that come into your property. Well, let's say it's a river that's flowing from somebody else's property or government land.
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Speaker 1: Well you don't.
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Speaker 2: You can't just dam up the river and sequester that water for your own purposes, your own usage. Representive Botoms did not get into that level of detail with it, but really was meeting a fierce challenge on those points, and it actually turned into no matter how you feel about this, I found it to be fascinating and interesting back and forth kind of debate, peppering questions almost like it was an interview setting, almost as if Michael Brown, being a lawyer, was asking permission to treat the witness as hostile and really tried to pin him down on particular specific details.
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Speaker 1: I think this had the effect, as you may have.
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Speaker 2: Heard Represented Bottoms referred to there, of really forcing him to stand his ground, defend his positions, get into specifics. It was that it was the conspiracy that he alleged Representative Bottoms about there being a pedophile ring at the state Capitol with regard to the three positions there, the General Assembly being the Senate and the House, and also the Governor's office. And that is where Brown I think, really turned to Representative Bottoms to drill down on that particular point. What are the names who did you report to? When did you report this? Are you going to tell us you know who are you cooperating with? Or is it this kind of nebulous game of keep away as was being I think alleged or implied by Brown in the questioning of Representative Bottoms. And he's talked about this on this program before. Has Scott about what he has known when he has known it? What can he say when can he reveal it, and to that level of detail he did give it was not a name I was familiar with, but that he had been working with a different state, and for the first time he identified that state as Georgia in this instance. Now, I don't know far and wide where these things apply or where they manifest themselves. There was the example once again given, and I talked a little bit about this with Senator Kirkmeyer on Hunter Rivera, who is the chair of the Weld County Republican Party again twenty four years old, was caught in a sting operation child prostitution, soliciting that he will be brought up on charges for it, and at one time served as legislative aid for Senator Kirkmeyer. But she pointed out that prior to that he had served in the House, so it wasn't just his office. She had no way of knowing. The vetting process can only reveal so much. Representative Bottoms has used that to illustrate the broader point that see, these things are going on in the state capitol.
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Speaker 1: As I have said, though he did not.
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Speaker 2: Implicate Hunter Rivera directly before these charges were announced came out publicly last week that we talked about with both Representative Bottoms and Senator Kirkmeyer on this program. There were also details, like I mentioned about the land usage, the mineral rights on your property that you just can't excavate on your own land for rare earth minerals. Yet he was suggesting, and I think the broader theory applies, and I would support it if it were to be implemented into law, that you would have those rights as a landowner. He also suggested the elimination of property taxes, to which Sean Boyd CBS Colorado four challenged him and said, Okay, if you eliminate property taxes, these are kind of the revenues that the funding of public schools is built upon, that the local services like fire and police are founded upon. And how would you replenish those funds? How would you supplement that revenue that is lost by the elimination of property taxes. Representative Bottom site of that as being unconstitutional. Now, there was another issue I think he touched on this and this has been floated as well.
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Speaker 1: As you look at these.
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Speaker 2: Mass migrations from blue states to red states and what really facilitates those a business friendly environment, and that could be Florida, Texas Tennessee three just off the top of my head, and South Dakota, I believe, is another one that does not have a state in income tax, whereas the state of Colorado does have that. And how do you incentivize investment by companies to come back here to Colorado when we see so many of them fleeing the state. I think if you're looking at broad strokes and those types of themes, that Representative Bottoms does have those conservative principles in mind. What we saw was a much more in my opinion, pragmatic approach by Senator Kirkmeyer, where she was stopping short of saying that there was corruption in the state government. I asked her about very specific terms, and these are terms that are used not only by Representative Bottoms but others. Waste, fraud, abuse, corruption, How do you define those terms? Are they happening at the state capitol? How would you illustrate examples of those things that are happening? And Senator Kirkmeyer stopped short of outright corruption necessarily writ large in the state government in the governor's office, but said that yes, there was plenty of mismanagement to use her phrase her work there, So I think overseeing in each of these subsequent debates, forums, et cetera, is a much clear delineation lines of demarcation between the two candidates and what they represent and how they appeal to voters, and how they're choosing to message to appeal to voters, and whether that more discipline, tightly refined message that doesn't go as far is more appealing. And that would be Senator Kirkmeyer or if here comes Representative Bottom saying this is me. You know, gloves are off, an unfiltered approach, this is who I am. People want an authentic individual who stands up for what they believe in, that has that temerity, that has that steal of spine, And that was really what he was trying to project last night at the Colorado Christian University debate. Those were my kind of baseline takeaways there. There was another event in the credit and or blame Sheriff Steve Reams of Wild County. He'll be filling in for Dan Caplis today was sending me. It was a ninety minute presentation of sorts by Victor Marx.
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Speaker 1: He staged his own event. It was to raise funds.
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Speaker 2: I think he made that clear at one point in his presentation last night, very thin on policy positions, as you might expect, and when he did get to those policy positions, he had to go behind a podium, put on his reading glasses and read them from a cue card. He could not extemporaneously express these positions on policy. He just cannot do it. And when you're in a debate setting, which he openly mocked. I mean, this was really insulting in so many ways to the voters of Colorado, to the intelligence of anybody in this audience or that might be watching at home on the Facebook feed or stream that Marx was providing. And he's just trying to sidestep all the traditional conventional means of running for governor. I just as I watched the two candidates, Representative Bottoms and Senator Kirkmeyer on the stage last night, the questions they were asked by Brown, by Boyd, by biz Deck, I just could not see Mark's functioning in that setting. There was a couple of reveals last night as well. We'll go through these to the degree of detail that I'm able to in the next segment and invite your thoughts on it.
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Speaker 2: This is six thirty k out, Denver's talk stationheart radio station, guaranteed Human.
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Speaker 1: Where news happens.
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Speaker 2: Ryan Schuling live in attendance at the Colorado Christian University debate last night, and our own Tricia Calvaretse had a chance to catch up with Representative Scott Bottoms after the debate.
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Speaker 3: All right, how that feels?
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Speaker 4: That was good?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, got to actually address some deeper things that.
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Speaker 4: That sounds like we haven't got there on some other debates.
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Speaker 3: So so we do grade yourself ten a ten out of ten.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and if we had so a, you're.
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Speaker 4: Giving yourself an A plus. Okay.
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Speaker 1: What you mentioned two times?
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Speaker 4: Jd Vance's Frog.
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Speaker 2: Team, what is that? Explain that a little bit more?
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Speaker 5: So? President Trump put jd Vance in charge of rooting outs fraud across the states. He did this about three months ago, I think it was. And so that's what I've.
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Speaker 4: Been working with.
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Speaker 3: Okay now, and I'm a Democrat, so this is news to me. So Ag phil Wiser is going to be arrested, is that coming soon?
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Speaker 1: And on what charges?
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Speaker 3: And is that going to impact the governor's race?
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Speaker 5: So I do believe that he is going to be indicted, not necessarily arrested, but indicted by the middle of the summer.
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Speaker 4: But that is not the special Auditor thing I was talking. Okay, break that. That's a different thing.
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Speaker 5: The indictment of Wiser and Secretary of State Griswold is on sedition charges. There is four other investigations on Secretary of State Griswold. I don't know if those are going to be brought to indictments before election.
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Speaker 4: I think maybe, but I doubt it.
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Speaker 5: What I'm talking about with the Special Auditor is that Attorney General Wiser was part of fraud, part of moving money, covering up money, giving people special tax break, special job, all that kind of stuff. This was, This was backed up and supported by the certain people in the judicial system and the Supreme Court. And like I said, there are stacks and stacks of paperwork. And as he kept asking me, this has been released its public knowledge for a long time.
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Speaker 4: The DJ has it.
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Speaker 5: It was sent to radio stations, TV stations, everybody has copies of all of this stuff.
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Speaker 4: It's been in court before a handful of times. I ran it.
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Speaker 5: As a special resolution.
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Speaker 4: So it's not like this is hidden information. This is out there.
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Speaker 5: It's out there very very prominently, and every single legislator and senator has a copy of all of the evidence.
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Speaker 3: Now, should Tina Peters be eligible for reparations under President Trump's new fund?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to make sure as governor she she has the ability to sue the state for being improperly incarcerated, illegally and ar serrated and also the victim of.
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Speaker 4: Political political theater.
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Speaker 5: With the judge in Weld County and also Secretary of State Griswel, and also Attorney General Wiser, they all colluded.
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Speaker 4: Together to put her in jail.
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Speaker 5: And one of the main reasons is not just that she had evidence, but because she ran for secretary of State against Attorney General Griswold. You're not allowed to do that in a Democrat controlled state, so they put her in jail.
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Speaker 3: Now, Michael Brown questioned you, so, Deshaun Boyd, on specifics about allegations of pedophilia, whether that's in the state legislature. You did confirm that it was in the House, not necessarily in the Senate. What's your plan for taking on the pedophilia connected in the Epstein files and potential Colorado connections. I really haven't heard anybody talk about that.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've mentioned that at probably twenty different town halls.
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Speaker 4: Okay, so there's two guys in the Epstein files.
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Speaker 5: One of them was directly attached to Governor Polus, one of his close friends. One of the other guys was directly attached to Attorney General Wiser, one of his closest friends. I brought this out over and over. But here's the thing. The same people that are saying we have no pedophilia, we have none of this stuff. They are the friends when the governor attorney general is saying that they're friends with known pedophiles in.
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Speaker 4: The Epstein files.
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Speaker 5: And even though I have said that I don't have any names of a senator, we know that there are people in the Senate, aids, staffers and things like that that are part of the pedophilia. Mister Brown never gave me a chance to finish the question. He kept talking over me. But yes, we do know of actual representatives, and we know of staffers, and we know of places and locations that involves the Governor's office where children are being trafficked and raped, you know.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Mister Brown also pushed.
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Speaker 4: Back on your answer to water.
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Speaker 3: And you said that if you'd get in a little bit more time, you could convince him. So give us if you want to give us your water answer.
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Speaker 5: Well, like I kept trying to tell him, you can own water rights. People all over the state of Colorado have ownership of water rights. They also have ownership of mental rights, but only certain You cannot buy mental rights today. You have to have grandfathered in the mental rights. And if you sell that property, it goes to the state. Well why that used to belong to people. Why wouldn't it not go to the people that buy that property?
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Speaker 4: It belonged to the previous owner. And the same way with water rights.
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Speaker 5: We have people that own water rights, but when they sell it, it goes back to a water board, it goes to a municipality that can buy the water rights. But when somebody buys a piece of land today it's very difficult to buy the water rights.
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Speaker 4: Although for a.
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Speaker 5: Century plus people own the water rights in Colorado. I just told you have a guy that sold the water rights down from the Arkansas River Valley to the city of Aurora.
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Speaker 4: He owned the.
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Speaker 5: Water rights and he owned them for fifty something years. When he sold him. He chose to sell him to Aurora. He could have sold him to a person. But when you sell to people, we sell water rights to people, it's a bigger legal nightmare. And respectfully, mister Brown doesn't know what he's talking about here, specifically with mental rights, water rights, all this, it's a property rights issue.
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Speaker 3: How are you thinking about property rights, water rights, deregulation, the eastern planes, and data centers specifically, I haven't that's a question. I haven't heard anybody ask yet. What's your kind of thoughts on those as those are coming into development.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, data centers are really kind of a different subject, but they encompass some of those other things. There is a new form of data center call coming out. It's called vern and it uses a lot less water. It doesn't overheat the water, it doesn't harm anything. Data centers are already here, so it's not a matter whether we want them here or not.
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Speaker 4: They're already here and they will build more of them.
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Speaker 5: Our responsibility is to guide them and lead that. So it's very beneficial to the people of Colorado first, to the state of Colorado second. Right now everything is about the state of Colorado instead of the people, and we need to reverse to make sure that these are safe and healthy for the people.
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Speaker 3: Now, what is your message to voters about Victor Marx not being here?
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Speaker 5: Sa same o samo. He doesn't come to anything. He's scared a debt to get on a stage with me or Senator Kirkmyer. I think, but I did notice for about six or seven of these forums he was signed up, signed up. Everybody else has signed up. The moment I signed up, he dropped out. So I think he doesn't want to be on the same stage with me. Plus he doesn't know anything. I've said this for a while for a few months. I stand behind it. He will not go to the Channel nine debate, and I think he's going to drop out of the race before the primary.
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Speaker 3: Now, you also mentioned the under thirty crowd. We are at Christian University.
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Speaker 1: Not a lot of young folks out tonight.
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Speaker 3: What's your message to get them off of the sidelines and onto the field.
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Speaker 4: Well, them not being here is not sitting on the sidelines.
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Speaker 5: The under thirty crowd is more educated about all this stuff than anybody that was sitting in this room. They know more of the details, they know what the state's doing, they know all of this other stuff, and so they're not sitting on the sidelines when it comes to voting. And we saw this in the Trump election. They weren't involved in all this stuff. But then but then all of a sudden they were at the polls and they voted, and they helped put Trump on off.
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Speaker 4: The same thing's gonna happen with me.
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Speaker 3: The final question, did you are blue for crossover appeal to Democrats?
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Speaker 4: I wore blue because this is a fine suit.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 1: Back here in Ryan Scherley Lin.
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Speaker 2: I'm taking your calls phone lanes and I'll open three zero three seven one three eight two five five and on the text line five seven seven three nine. As you just heard Representative Scott Bottoms with our own Trisha Calvarets. The interesting political dichotomy there as a Democrat.
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Speaker 1: Having run for office, the office of Congress in the.
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Speaker 2: Fourth Congressional District, posing questions to Representative Bottoms, And I'll give you my experience firsthand of attending that debate at Colorado Christian University from last night. You know we're going to have, or at least we were told they were going to have by CCU, an empty podium for one Victor Marx, and that did not transpire as we had hoped that there would be that representation on stage. They had the two podiums, the three moderators, Michael Brown of KOA, Sean Boyd CBS Colorado four, and then Vince Bizdick of The Gazette. The turnout I thought was rather sparse. I believe that they had originally been sold out. So Victor Marx may have a point there that those that wanted to attend, that wanted to watch him participate in this debate as was originally planned, as was agreed to.
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Speaker 1: Did not show up.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know that there was a lot in terms of students from CCU that attended. Either there were some factions I think that were loyal to either candidate, that being Representative Bottoms or Senator Kirkmeyer who were in attendance, And of course here was truly there representing with RSL and Tricia. I had a conversation with Senator Kirkmeyer. Will have that coming up at the bottom of next The tone and tenor of the debate really got contentious and a little bit spicy at times, as Michael Brown challenged Representative Bottoms on specifics when it comes to claims that he was making and policy positions that he was taking. And I know that just rhymed. I didn't plan it to do that, but it wasn't just Michael Brown. Although he did draw some sneers and snickers and jeers from those assembled that were supporting Representative Bottoms.
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Speaker 1: The one that really stood out to.
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Speaker 2: Me was land usage rights and what are the laws behind those and whether or not you would have claim to water on your own property. There is an issue with that as it pertains to the law, and it's illustrated actually in an episode of Yellowstone that I remember watching, and that is water use rights that come into your property. Well, let's say it's a river that's flowing from somebody else's property or government land.
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Speaker 1: Well you don't.
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Speaker 2: You can't just dam up the river and sequester that water for your own purposes, your own usage. Representive Botoms did not get into that level of detail with it, but really was meeting a fierce challenge on those points, and it actually turned into no matter how you feel about this, I found it to be fascinating and interesting back and forth kind of debate, peppering questions almost like it was an interview setting, almost as if Michael Brown, being a lawyer, was asking permission to treat the witness as hostile and really tried to pin him down on particular specific details.
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Speaker 1: I think this had the effect, as you may have.
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Speaker 2: Heard Represented Bottoms referred to there, of really forcing him to stand his ground, defend his positions, get into specifics. It was that it was the conspiracy that he alleged Representative Bottoms about there being a pedophile ring at the state Capitol with regard to the three positions there, the General Assembly being the Senate and the House, and also the Governor's office. And that is where Brown I think, really turned to Representative Bottoms to drill down on that particular point. What are the names who did you report to? When did you report this? Are you going to tell us you know who are you cooperating with? Or is it this kind of nebulous game of keep away as was being I think alleged or implied by Brown in the questioning of Representative Bottoms. And he's talked about this on this program before. Has Scott about what he has known when he has known it? What can he say when can he reveal it, and to that level of detail he did give it was not a name I was familiar with, but that he had been working with a different state, and for the first time he identified that state as Georgia in this instance. Now, I don't know far and wide where these things apply or where they manifest themselves. There was the example once again given, and I talked a little bit about this with Senator Kirkmeyer on Hunter Rivera, who is the chair of the Weld County Republican Party again twenty four years old, was caught in a sting operation child prostitution, soliciting that he will be brought up on charges for it, and at one time served as legislative aid for Senator Kirkmeyer. But she pointed out that prior to that he had served in the House, so it wasn't just his office. She had no way of knowing. The vetting process can only reveal so much. Representative Bottoms has used that to illustrate the broader point that see, these things are going on in the state capitol.
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Speaker 1: As I have said, though he did not.
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Speaker 2: Implicate Hunter Rivera directly before these charges were announced came out publicly last week that we talked about with both Representative Bottoms and Senator Kirkmeyer on this program. There were also details, like I mentioned about the land usage, the mineral rights on your property that you just can't excavate on your own land for rare earth minerals. Yet he was suggesting, and I think the broader theory applies, and I would support it if it were to be implemented into law, that you would have those rights as a landowner. He also suggested the elimination of property taxes, to which Sean Boyd CBS Colorado four challenged him and said, Okay, if you eliminate property taxes, these are kind of the revenues that the funding of public schools is built upon, that the local services like fire and police are founded upon. And how would you replenish those funds? How would you supplement that revenue that is lost by the elimination of property taxes. Representative Bottom site of that as being unconstitutional. Now, there was another issue I think he touched on this and this has been floated as well.
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Speaker 1: As you look at these.
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Speaker 2: Mass migrations from blue states to red states and what really facilitates those a business friendly environment, and that could be Florida, Texas Tennessee three just off the top of my head, and South Dakota, I believe, is another one that does not have a state in income tax, whereas the state of Colorado does have that. And how do you incentivize investment by companies to come back here to Colorado when we see so many of them fleeing the state. I think if you're looking at broad strokes and those types of themes, that Representative Bottoms does have those conservative principles in mind. What we saw was a much more in my opinion, pragmatic approach by Senator Kirkmeyer, where she was stopping short of saying that there was corruption in the state government. I asked her about very specific terms, and these are terms that are used not only by Representative Bottoms but others. Waste, fraud, abuse, corruption, How do you define those terms? Are they happening at the state capitol? How would you illustrate examples of those things that are happening? And Senator Kirkmeyer stopped short of outright corruption necessarily writ large in the state government in the governor's office, but said that yes, there was plenty of mismanagement to use her phrase her work there, So I think overseeing in each of these subsequent debates, forums, et cetera, is a much clear delineation lines of demarcation between the two candidates and what they represent and how they appeal to voters, and how they're choosing to message to appeal to voters, and whether that more discipline, tightly refined message that doesn't go as far is more appealing. And that would be Senator Kirkmeyer or if here comes Representative Bottom saying this is me. You know, gloves are off, an unfiltered approach, this is who I am. People want an authentic individual who stands up for what they believe in, that has that temerity, that has that steal of spine, And that was really what he was trying to project last night at the Colorado Christian University debate. Those were my kind of baseline takeaways there. There was another event in the credit and or blame Sheriff Steve Reams of Wild County. He'll be filling in for Dan Caplis today was sending me. It was a ninety minute presentation of sorts by Victor Marx.
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Speaker 1: He staged his own event. It was to raise funds.
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Speaker 2: I think he made that clear at one point in his presentation last night, very thin on policy positions, as you might expect, and when he did get to those policy positions, he had to go behind a podium, put on his reading glasses and read them from a cue card. He could not extemporaneously express these positions on policy. He just cannot do it. And when you're in a debate setting, which he openly mocked. I mean, this was really insulting in so many ways to the voters of Colorado, to the intelligence of anybody in this audience or that might be watching at home on the Facebook feed or stream that Marx was providing. And he's just trying to sidestep all the traditional conventional means of running for governor. I just as I watched the two candidates, Representative Bottoms and Senator Kirkmeyer on the stage last night, the questions they were asked by Brown, by Boyd, by biz Deck, I just could not see Mark's functioning in that setting. There was a couple of reveals last night as well. We'll go through these to the degree of detail that I'm able to in the next segment and invite your thoughts on it.
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