Outsiders | 19 April

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Speaker 1: This is Outsiders.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to Outsiders.
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Speaker 2: Fascist, authoritarian, sinister nature of the modern left. What this Irish comedian is to exposing the vile, fascist, sinister, authoritarian nature of the modern left.
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Speaker 3: Imagine thinking you're a good person just because you're a vegan, and that's the reason alone.
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Speaker 4: A lot of people out there, they want you to think they're a good person just because they tick a few boxes.
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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
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Speaker 4: We shouldn't trust these people. Hitler was a vegan.
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Speaker 1: He was also an artist.
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Speaker 4: He was also into fashion, He took a few drugs, wasn't into God, obsessed with politics, and wouldn't shut up. If he was around today, he'd just be a university student with blue hair and pronouns Addolf his.
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Speaker 2: Her just scream out of protest, same sign the Jews.
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Speaker 5: That stand up comedian Dane Frisbee.
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Speaker 6: And let's have a look at who he could have been talking about.
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Speaker 7: Apparently, recently, the Israeli government released a report where they identify me as the second most dangerous anti Semite in the world, and the reason is for me using terms such as genocide, siege, and mass starvation. To talk about the situation in gozap anyway, the genocide continues.
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Speaker 8: Perhaps I don't know, Greta. Maybe she means the fictitious genocide continues. Anyway, just a little correction for her. But speaking of which, here's what Donald Trump has to say to people who question his world priorities by badgering him about Iranian atrocities. I want to ask you for more protects.
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Speaker 9: Are pulling the first woman protective?
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Speaker 10: What do you tell you what?
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Speaker 8: I'll tell that to the development talking.
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Speaker 11: What are you saying?
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Speaker 12: Tell that to the.
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Speaker 2: Develop Tell that to the Pope and add it to the list of all the other atrocities. The Pope refuses to comment on, including the murders of Christians by radical Islamists in Nigeria and elsewhere. But while we wait for Pope Teds the fourteenth, sorry Pope Leo the fourteenth, to stop playing left wing politics, let's grab the latest outsiders news. So the war goes on, but in my opinion, it's nearly over. But we have a cease fight, and we don't have a cease fire. And a couple of boats wandering around. Now there's a cruise ship apparently Rita wandering around the streets of horn moves.
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Speaker 1: Who'd have picked that one.
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Speaker 6: Three civilian ships have been fired upon, and one of them a.
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Speaker 5: Cruise ship, which I've found remarkable. I mean, what cruise company's thinking here, Let's take one of.
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Speaker 6: Our ships to the straight bit happening there. So that was quite amusing. I think what the world is discovering very slowly, I think the Trump administration work this out fairly quickly, is that the Iranian regime cannot be trusted.
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Speaker 5: Really, they are, as Donald.
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Speaker 6: Trump and I'm quoting here, world class bullshit artists, because they will come to an agreement, a very detailed agreement, and within hours blow it up.
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Speaker 5: And that's all.
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Speaker 2: They can blow up these days, because they don't have a navy or anything else left.
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Speaker 8: Janel Well, actually, you know what's interesting too, is because we also don't really know who's actually in charge in Iran. And this has been the thing I think that Donald Trump has quite intelligently discerned here is that there is not one unified body that is running Iran. You've got the IRGC on the one hand, you know, which is the hardcore theocrats, Samlas, the iatailers, all of these people on the one hand, then you've got the sort of political wing of the government, which has a president that's involved with the administering the actual country itself. What this attack has done, what this whole excursion to use that word, has done, is to split those two off of one another. And now within the IRGC there's a lot of different factions. Now some want to keep going even harder, and so by continuing to divide, the hope is to run a divide and conquer strategy. What this means though for Iran, though you know now the American blockade will continue, it will go harder. The problem for Iran is that every day that Iran is blocked from getting its stuff in and out, they lose four hundred million dollars. That's the number one thing. Number two, the currency is in free falls two million reales to the American dollars, something like that at the moment, inflation is of course impossible. And here's the big thing. Ten or twelve days more of actual blockade means they don't have any place to store the oil that's coming out of their wells, and they'll have to start capping wells, which would be a devastating process for them.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's have listened to what Donald Trump saying, kind of update from him.
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Speaker 13: We're talking to them. They wanted to close up the straight again, you know, as they've been doing for years, and they can't blackmail us. In fact, a lot of the ships are coming up to Texas. I don't know if you know in Louisiana the ships are coming up. They got used to it. Maybe they'll keep doing it. It's worked out pretty good. But it's going actually along very well. And we'll see, but we'll have some information by the.
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Speaker 2: End of the day.
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Speaker 13: We're talking to them, and you know, we're taking a tough stand. They've killed a lot of people. A lot of our people have been killed.
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Speaker 2: I think, James, you make a critical point there about the tensions within Iran itself. I'd say there are many factions all at war with each other fighting. The army fighting, the RG the Muther's fighting, the politicians, the anti Sharp people, the pro Sharp people, et cetera, et cetera. This is the dying kind of mess of thrashings around of a dying regime.
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Speaker 1: It will die, you know.
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Speaker 2: I believe during the northern summer we will see the Iranian people yet again take to the streets, and this time they won't They will hopefully succeed. But what has been fascinating, Rita is what was hilarious over the weekend was Donald Trump announced, you know, that there had been a ceasefire. He'd agreed with who knows who, But anyway, there was briefly a ceasefire, but the Europeans chose that very moments to announce that they were going to open the Straits and Homers forty five minutes after after Donald Trump opened.
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Speaker 1: But listen, thank.
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Speaker 14: You very much, Emmanuel. We just had a very productive meeting, bringing together forty nine countries around a very simple message and proposition that the world needs the straight up home moves fully open, because that is how we keep prices down.
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Speaker 5: What can you say, pitiful.
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Speaker 6: Week just I think really the recent weeks expose the weakness of the entire NATO alliance when it mattered, those NATO allies were missing. Some of them were actually obstructionists, never mind not coming to the assistance of an ally. And that's what the alliance is supposed to be.
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Speaker 5: It's not supposed to be.
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Speaker 6: We're in perfect agreement on every issue and we're going to be there. You're supposed to be there when called upon. And I think going forward, James domestically, they are going to have a rethink about the money they put in and the efforts they put into the NATO alliance because it has to be two way street. You cannot have the US be called upon to be there when needed, but the other allies just come and go as they wish well.
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Speaker 8: And this is the problem that NATO has had for decades, you know, I mean what we saw there was Keir Starmer being the Ralph Wigham of Europe. You know, I'm helping, but putting that aside, putting where aside the hilarious weak response here that oh suddenly you know now that it looks like the war is all over. And this is, by the way, how you know the conflict is just about that. It's not because of anything that's going on with Iran or the negotiations of Pakistan or Jdvans. It's now the Europeans are coming. Oh yeah, we're helping with this one. Here. We've got our we've got our right flags, we've got our white flags back from the dry cleaners, and we're ready to go to the Gulf. That's what Emanuel Macron says here. But no think about this here. NATO has four decades had this problem. Remember nineteen eighty four. People out there might remember this. You know, Ronald Reagan want to fly strikes against uh Libya and the French wouldn't let American fighters fly over over the Specich. They had to fly big thing all the way around, you know, through the Straits of Gibraltar and then go to attack Blumarktafia and then back all the way around. And it was quite an outrage at the time. President since at least Reagan have been saying Europe is not pulling its weight, and it is so galling to me. You know, whatever you think about Donald Trump, the person or the president, for all of these people to gaslight and deny reality on the fact that the reason why NATA was cracking up is because for fifty sixty years at least, it has been an entirely one sided relationship and it never figured out really its proper raison debt. After the fall of the Soviet Union, they never really figured out what they were about after that, and so you know, for the last twenty thirty years they've been kind of you know, Rudderless on that task as well.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 2: The Americans have helped in Ukraine. Reagan helped Thatcher in the Falklands, even though that was you know, at the time of a South American country at war with Britain.
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Speaker 1: Reagan chose to stay.
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Speaker 2: With the Alliance, and that could have cost him an awful lot. But he's stuck to his principles, and that is where it must be so galling for the Americans to see the betrayal.
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Speaker 1: I'll be speaking later in the program.
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Speaker 2: The portrayal by this alban Ezy government of our greatest alliance, absolutely disgusting. We've got some great guests coming on, so we've got Quantum arm and we've got Sarah Henderson coming on.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about those things.
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Speaker 6: Sorry, But finally we're hearing from the coalition about some of the tactics of the ab and easy government, not just their weakness, but the fact that they are not going to the US and saying give us some of your fuel, give us some of your oil.
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Speaker 5: America is the.
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Speaker 6: Biggest too embarrassed, they are too embarrassed. And again this gets lost that America is the biggest producer of oil and gas now, So why are we begging for extra fuel from Singapore and Malaysia where our biggest ally has barrels, millions of barrels to get him surely and also that would solidify relations that are fraid at the moment, So it's a win win.
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Speaker 5: Why aren't they doing that?
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Speaker 2: And Dave Sharma made that point the other day on television, which is really good to hear, as you say, the coalition saying this. But the point is Albanize has gone the other way begging bowl.
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Speaker 1: We are now the white trash of Asia, wandering around with the who knows who. Please give us some of this.
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Speaker 2: But what is interesting as well, which I couldn't it is just shocking.
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Speaker 1: Albanizi comes out and he says that he's.
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Speaker 2: Going to join the Europeans in their little venture. So I've got eat out this tweet from Albanisi which.
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Speaker 1: Just I read it with utter disbelief.
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Speaker 2: This is Albanezi saying overnight, I joined a virtual leader's summit on the Strait of Hormu's co hosted by President Macron and Prime Minister starmer if Ever. Two words summed up Albanzi, I joined a virtual leader's summit that is Alban easy to a t A virtual leader, a nothing leader exists purely in the ether, shows no leadership, doesn't understand what real leadership is, doesn't understand the importance of alliances. It's a zoom meeting with the Europeans. Pathetic, utterly pathetic.
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Speaker 6: And well it's more pathetic because he goes on well, he contradicts himself because he makes claims there that weren't accurate.
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Speaker 5: But he goes on James to.
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Speaker 6: Say that Australia has always been about stopping this conflict, putting an end to this conflict. Can I spoke of the Iranian regime now, because that's what the Iranian regime want, that've always wanted an end to this conflict, so that could go on killing their own people and being the biggest sponsors of terrorism around the World's is that what happened?
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Speaker 8: Well, that is what it says. But can we actually just unpack a bit of this tweet here, because contained with it there's a lot of things I find really disturbing. Yes, Rita, you're absolutely correct. The first thing to identify is the fact that when he says we call for an end to this conflict and we want to restore stability and security in the street and worm moves. What he is saying is we want the ir GC to survive. Okay, that's the first thing. Now, we should not expect anything less from Albanize, particularly given his Foreign minister Penny Wong, considering particularly how much they are of that left faction that wants to do everything it can to undermine you know, Western freedom and democracy. And so it's not going to stand with the United States, God forbid, because his university politics won't let him do that. He's going to stand with letting the Iranian regime, the Mullahs, the Ayatollahs, stay in power. But there's two other things that are really disturbing about this. Number One, he has actually admitted that what the coalition, what people on the right of this country have always said. The problem with the left's agenda about Australia is that they want to turn us from a society and a shared culture to simply an economy. So we are feeling the economy, feeling of the economy. Therefore, this needs to end because that's the only thing that we share in common. Now. There's nothing about values of freedom, values of democracy. The supposed Australian values that we're supposed to be all about. There's no talk about that. Now. This tells me a third thing, which is vitally important, I think, because we know China is watching. We know China is watching Australia's reaction to this crisis. They see us, you know, absolutely bent over a barrel because we don't have enough oil because diesels now over three dollars a leader if you can get it in a lot of regions, and they'll say this country, Australia will cave so quickly if there's any problem, Which tells me that if China makes a move on Taiwan, there's no way an Albanisi government, a labor government would do anything to help, because hey, it might increase fuel prices and that's bad for us. At the battle box.
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Speaker 6: There is no moral clarity at all, none, and there's no resilience. It's like fuel prices have been up for a few weeks, we've got shortages, dry whatever you like. That's the strat that seems to be the prevailing message from our leader. And it's really deeply depressing that we have leadership that is so weak and so feckless.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, that's exactly it. And again it comes down to the lack of values. It comes back to the inability to articulate and stand up for values, you know. And it's funny because Albin Ezy when it came to Ukraine, he was able to, I think, stand up and say, you know, this is about the tyranny of the strong against the weak and democracy in Ukraine. All that all perfectly good, normal things to say. Yet suddenly when it comes to Iran and Trump, he's completely lost.
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Speaker 2: Well, they're hopeless and the left of hopeless. I'll be talking more about that later on in the show. James, but also Rita mentioned the complete spinelessness, the lack of values of labor and particularly Foreign Minister Penny Wong. And last week we know at the United Nations the Committit he voted to put Iran on a women's committee overseeing women's rights and human rights. The Americans came straight in and objected, said that Iran is unfit to be on anything like this. Guess who went along with it? Who acquiesced compliantly Australia. Australia had no problem with Iran being on the women's rights committee in the UN. What an absolute fat Penny Wong is absolute disgrace. But as I said, virtual leaders describes this entire government, virtual values, virtual policies. Everything is fake, everything is fraudulent. It's disgraceful. But what we do know, Rita, which is really good news, is that Chris Bowen works every Saturday. Now as pleased to learn this because obviously Chris bow And sees himself as a future virtual leader attending virtual summits.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he is the climate Czar of the world.
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Speaker 6: Now, I'm sorry that the Climate change iselots never do any virtual meetings. Go there the game of about five hundred in the pointy end of the plane. So no, they're not doing anything virtually.
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Speaker 5: What about we're talking about?
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Speaker 1: Can I just quickly play this clip because it's hilarious. This is Chris bow And telling us all that he.
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Speaker 8: Works on Saturday.
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Speaker 1: He's a real person. Listen.
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Speaker 3: As you know, every Saturday I hold a press conference I announced and update the Australian people on how much stock we have in hand. I've been doing that every Saturday for last many weeks. And on Saturday, as I do every Saturday, now release the minimum stock obligation. Updated figures I've been providing weekly updates every Saturday on Australia's stockholding self fuel. So yeah, every Saturday now I update the country on how much fuel we have on hand. I've been doing that for now four weeks.
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Speaker 1: I needs a Saturday. I held a press conference.
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Speaker 3: Situation remains with the update that I provided on Saturday, with thirty nine days with the petrol.
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Speaker 1: I'll give that another update in two days time.
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Speaker 8: On Saturday.
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Speaker 3: I give an update every Saturday about where we're at. I'll give a further update over the course of Saturday.
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Speaker 1: Say he's so bad.
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Speaker 6: I mean, you can't help but not be amused by that, because he is just he's a David brent Is. The way he emphasized the Saturday, it's like he's signaling to his Prime Minister, to the cabinet, look at me, I'm working Saturday.
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Speaker 5: Look at my level of commitment to.
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Speaker 1: The Australia's funny.
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Speaker 6: He's at the heart of the problem we have. We've talked about the lack of moral clarity, We've talked about the complete lack of resilience. What about the complete lack of medium to long term planning. We are just so reactive to what's happening right now. We haven't taken any lessons out of this to think, Okay, let's not be so reliant on other countries, particularly roadue countries, for our economic security, for our energy security. Let's become like the US is energy independent. We've got the capability to.
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Speaker 5: Do that, of course we do.
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Speaker 1: Oh, actually we.
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Speaker 5: Have unless oil refinery. We're down to one.
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Speaker 1: We're down to one.
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Speaker 2: But we sitting on the greatest, one of the greatest reserves of oil and natural gas and that in the world. We have a whole consonants and it's all there right for the taking. But our stupid environmental policies, our stupid indigenous policies. There might be a blue spotted gink or whatever that gets in the whatever it is, I don't know that they'll find some reason to not mine for the thing, or I won't do this.
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Speaker 1: At least the.
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Speaker 2: Coalition are now talking about getting drill, baby, drill happening.
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Speaker 1: We need this so desperately. Have a listen to Albanize.
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Speaker 2: You can't even you know, they don't even understand the world that we're living, and have a listener.
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Speaker 15: We have continued to secure critical fuel supplies, will you knew to work on that for Australia and we have made some progress there, but will continue to work around the clock to shield Australia from the impacts.
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Speaker 1: Of this war.
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Speaker 2: Around the clock, even on Saturdays, even on Saturday, on.
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Speaker 9: Saturday, Sunday, they'll be working.
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Speaker 2: His gument does not understand his gunment, does not understand that we should be drilling. We should be we should be making money at the moment because we should be exporting our oil.
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Speaker 1: We should be saying to the rest of the world.
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Speaker 2: Look, we've got tons here, We've got so, we've got this, we got that, we should be making money.
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Speaker 8: The thing is, though, you know, you can understand watching that clip and then the Bowen clip talking about Saturday, you really start to understand why Chris Bowen is such a trusted and well respected and loved cabinet minister of Ethney Alberanzi. And that's because every time Chris Bowen gets up and speaks, he makes Ethny Alberanizi look like Henry Kissinger. Okay, this guy, the Chris Bowen. You talk about moral clarity, Well, Chris Bowen, he's got moral clarity. He's completely wrong, but he's actually the only one who's got some sort of guiding north star, and that's this zealotry he has for renewables in climate. And you go back and you look at everything. He keeps saying, he keeps saying, he keeps saying, No, what's that.
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Speaker 6: He decided, Oh, we've got a little bit of a shortage dirty fuels.
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Speaker 8: Fine, dirty feels you. But he keeps saying, But he keeps saying. He keeps saying, renewables are the cheapest. We have to double down. Yeah, sure, we're letting the dirty fuel through. But he's saying, you know, we don't need to change course from doing this massive triple quadruple building of the grid to get energy from places in the middle of nowhere to places where it's needed at all of the dislocations and the destruction of views and cabitat and farmland and everything else that involves. He keeps going on with this mantra, and he keeps saying it, you know, almost religiously, like he's saying, grace, renewables are the cheapest form of energy, So no, they're not.
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Speaker 2: But what you're actually saying is you're saying, he's not very bright. Yes, that's right, Yeah, that's right, evidence of the Australian people that we are led by people who are not very bright, which is something I've been complaining about for the last four years. And the fact that we are in this position, as Rita said, we're not going straight to the Americans. If we'd kept all they had to do during the run up to this was say, yeah, we're behind America. Yeah we want where we're offering moral support, and Trump would have been going send and send some oil down to Australia. We don't want them to be in trouble. But we're so dumb. We are led by the lowest caliber of government this country has ever seen.
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Speaker 8: Can I make a point here that part of the reason why and you know, and we'll talk we talk later with Sarah Henderson about the coalition's demigration policy. But the reason why they're so back and forth on this here and why they're unable to do what any sensible government, liberal or labor does, which is gas up a frigate, even and if it's only got eight missile cells and send it over and just say yes, we're part of it, and it's just a token support. That's all they needed to do. But the reason why they can't is because they have allowed foreign policy to seep into domestic policies, by which I mean, now the fact, and you can tell the Coalition is over the target when it comes to some of their immigration policies because they keep saying, and they keep briefing it out to the press, Cort, this is really Trumpian. This is trumpy and trumpy and trumpy and trumpy and Trumpian what the coalition is proposing. Well, yeah, if only, But the fact that they use trump as a swear word domestically means that then they've basically checkmated themselves out of doing stuff with the administration on something that's a vital national security importance to us.
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Speaker 6: Really, carded back to the White House that the Australian government uses the term Trumpian as an insult, as a warning, you think that's not going to have any sort of impact, And you're so right, Rowan, If you just had any political nows, any interest in actually advancing what's best for Australians at a time where the US's European allies have been found wanting, if you were there and steadfast, you would be the beneficiary of a great deal, including as much oil as you need, because we have got genuine shortages.
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Speaker 5: And let's talk about this.
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Speaker 6: Refinery fire in Melbourne. That to me is astonishing that we've only got two refineries and that you can have a fire of this magnitude. I hope the last remaining one that's not been damaged has got very good protection.
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Speaker 5: I would be sending in the army.
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Speaker 6: I would be putting in all sorts of bloody safeguards to make sure, because what would happen if we have none.
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Speaker 1: I know exactly well we are.
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of a word that I'm lying to sound television, but anyway, we're not.
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Speaker 1: We're in trouble. We're in trouble and strife just very quickly.
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Speaker 2: Someone who's not noticing any shortages of such, certainly not just his expense accounts, is the first Nations ambassador, whose name is Justin Muhammad. He was the first Nations ambassador. He's on a very very nice salary. I seem to remember some four hundred thousand dollars, but that's nothing compared to the amount of money he's spending traveling eight hundred thousand dollars in international flights. Our indigenous where's he been to Rita?
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Speaker 1: With all these.
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Speaker 6: Fasts, I still cannot understand why we have a First Nations ambassador.
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Speaker 5: We have ambassadors doesn't represent the country.
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Speaker 6: Why do we need again this divisive racial politics that is so toxic that the Australian people rejected at the referendum, and yet they're implementing polses like that.
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Speaker 5: And where has he been? He's been everywhere?
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Speaker 6: He's been US, Switzerland, Japan, Fiji, he's been to idyllic place you'd like to go to, has probably been more than once.
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Speaker 1: And also so the Swiss, the Swiss Alps.
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Speaker 2: They're sitting in the Swiss Alps and a bloke called Justin Muhammad from Australia rocks up and says, I'm here.
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Speaker 5: To talk about what Australia represent the First.
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Speaker 2: Nation and they'd be going back, No, no, no, First Nations, that's Canadian, they'd be don't you mean are you from Canada?
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Speaker 1: No? No, no, anyway, it's it's a joke. It's the fastest government.
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Speaker 8: This is by the way, this is exactly the sort of thing. You know. I know that it was talking about the Coalition and their policies or lack thereof, so it's the stuff come out on immigration. Good. But this is the sort of thing here, you know, the Daily Telegraph broke this story earlier this week. I to plugs my paper a little, but the but they are. But this is the sort of thing that the Coalition should be jumping on and saying, you know, when we come into government, this job is, this is gone by you know, just joymaid, go do something else. Enjoy your freaking fire points. By the way, if he's added as level in the you know the way these things were, he is flying first class, not business first, to all of these destined imaginations first class.
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Speaker 2: After the break, Senator Sarah Henderson joins us, what's to talk about with Sarah?
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Speaker 1: In a tick?
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Speaker 6: You're watching Outsiders with your hosts Rowan Dean James Morrow, and I'm Rita Panahy.
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Speaker 5: And unless you've been hiding under.
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Speaker 6: A rock this past week, you would have been inundated with an advertising campaign funded by your tax dollars. It seems not even a fuel crisis can curb Anthony Albernezi's insatiable appetite for wasting public money. The Australian Prime Minister has followed up his utterly inane address to the nation with a twenty million dollar advertising campaign.
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Speaker 16: The Global Fuel Show is affecting us all to keep us moving. The government has been working to secure Australia's fuel supply and has a full level National Fuel Security Plan. We're now at level two and we all have a part to play together. Simple actions can make our supply go further.
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Speaker 6: The every little bit helps campaign manages to be both condescending and cringe kind of sums up the PM two, who tried his best to defend this waste of tax payers money.
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Speaker 17: It's a lot of money and people are telling us it feels like a waste. I think this is the first time you've come on our show since this crisis began. We would have had you on for free and you could have told everyone pump up your tires and useless fuel.
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Speaker 15: Well, we're doing all of that. I've done press conferences just about every day, NAT, as you know, I'll do another one later today.
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Speaker 17: So why the advertising campaign certainly a twenty.
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Speaker 15: Mil because we want because well it goes to your network, amongst others, NAT, which is about keeping the economy going and giving people that direct information.
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Speaker 6: Thanks alboth that almost start sounds like a bribe. Don't complain that your network is getting the cash. Gosh, I don't know how Australians would cope without their hard earned being spent telling them to drive less, pump up their tires, consider removing their roof racks and spoilers, and to turn down their vehicles heating and cooling.
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Speaker 5: No thanks, And do adults really need to.
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Speaker 6: Be told to use less fuel to avoid the impact of higher fuel prices? Really can't wait for the public ad campaign warning Australians that fire is hot and water is wet. Now to an example of how deliberately dishonest the media is and it's reporting of.
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Speaker 5: Donald Trump and the Australian media.
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Speaker 6: Is amongst the worst because it just regurgitates the most diabolically dumb crap from MS NOW, CNN, New York Times, et cetera, et cetera.
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Speaker 5: Without question. Let's look at just one recent example.
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Speaker 6: This Just in the last couple of days, we had this report from Channel ten claiming Donald Trump believes that diet soda kills cancer cells. That's what Channel ten and other media outlets told their audience, and looking at the thousands of comments, the audience believed it. But what really happened. Well, here's the truth. The media took what was an obvious joke and turned it into a news story. Here is a Wall Street Journal reporter asking a serious question about an obvious joke.
00:30:37
Speaker 18: First of all, there was an interview that doctor member Oz dead recently where he described the president's views on his own diet. He said that he argued that diet soda.
00:30:48
Speaker 10: Is good for him because it kills brass, and if you pour it onto the grass, the grass is killed, and it therefore of ust kill canc results.
00:30:55
Speaker 2: I'm wondering, if you can was this sort of an accurate description of how the president's look as.
00:31:01
Speaker 9: We all know in this room.
00:31:02
Speaker 18: I think you know the president has a very.
00:31:03
Speaker 4: Good sense of humor.
00:31:04
Speaker 19: It's one of his most underreported characteristics.
00:31:08
Speaker 10: I would say I have heard him tell this joke before. I think the Wall Street Journal should get a better sense of humor.
00:31:13
Speaker 5: I mean, what can you say?
00:31:15
Speaker 6: Come on, let me play you the source material. The reason why the media in Australia and elsewhere is earnestly reporting that Donald Trump thinks died soda kills cancer cells. It was this exchange Donald Trump Junior's triggered podcast with Doctor Roz. Now you watch this and tell me whether any thinking person for a second could think this is anything.
00:31:38
Speaker 5: Other than a joke.
00:31:39
Speaker 12: Good Dad argues that died soda is good for him because it kills grass. It's poured on grass, so therefore must kill cancer cells inside the body. So he'll try to please. He's got a fant out the desk, and I say, are you kidding me? So he starts to take cheapesty grin. He goes, you know, this sounds good for me. He kills cancer cells and then he tells me it's fresh squeezed, So how bad did.
00:31:59
Speaker 4: It be for you?
00:32:02
Speaker 1: Yeah?
00:32:03
Speaker 6: Next, we're going to expect Channelton and others to claim that Donald Trump believes panta cans grow on trees and fantera is freshly squeezed orange juice. Now, you either believe the media is that dumb, or they choose to be.
00:32:16
Speaker 5: That deliberately dishonest.
00:32:18
Speaker 6: There are no other options right now.
00:32:25
Speaker 2: And let's bring in a liberal senator, Sarah Henderson. Sarah, thank you for coming on the show this morning. Great to see you, and you've also got a great sense of humor. I don't think any of us can compare with Donald Trump's sense of humor.
00:32:37
Speaker 1: But there you go.
00:32:39
Speaker 2: But listen, we did want to ask you about the fuel situation, and we also wanted to ask you about immigration. But firstly, this business where we're wandering around the countries of Southeast Asia, Leeque, you weren't warned that we were becoming the white trash of Asia. Albo has certainly made that a reality. We're begging for fuel here, there and everywhere. Meanwhile, as your colleague Dave Sharma accurately pointed out, why aren't we talking to the Americans, Sarah, They've got all the fuel.
00:33:12
Speaker 20: Well, Rowan great to join you this morning, and Dave made a very good point. The Prime Minister is going cap in hand to Singapore and Malaysia. Why is he not speaking with the United States, which, as you say, is the largest exporter of oil and gas and of course doesn't depend on crude from the Middle East. The refiner is in Singapore and Malaysia depend very much on crude from the Middle East. So it's much more certain, if not longer, but much more certain fuel supply from the United States. And it demonstrates that our relationship is in tatters. We have seen President Trump call out Australia for not assisting on at least three occasions, and we've now seen weezer words from the Defense Industry Minister Pat Conroy this morning he was asked by Andrew Clanell, has there been.
00:34:00
Speaker 4: Any formal requests for support?
00:34:03
Speaker 20: He said no, and then he was asked what about informal requests for support and he said not to my knowledge. Well, he is the Defense Industry Minister, so Australians can rightly not have trust in this government. This relationship has deteriorated very badly, and that of course is indicative in the fact that we have not gone to the United.
00:34:23
Speaker 4: States for support for our fuel security.
00:34:27
Speaker 8: Looking on to immigration here, Sarah, because this has been the week I think that we a lot of us, myself included, have really been waiting for that we would see some policy come out of the Coalition on immigration and it's been i would say, really quite strong on a lot of questions. But one of the things that I'm really interested in is this acknowledgement that there's a massive number of people sixty five thousand some say, others say more than one hundred thousand people in the country who have absolutely no legal right to be here. They've exhausted all of their appeals with the various tribuals. We can't get them out. What is the Coalie proposed to do to actually get them out? Would they be putting penalties on people who employ people who shouldn't be here legally? What would they do to make those people? I think probably the first instance self deport.
00:35:18
Speaker 1: Well.
00:35:18
Speaker 20: James as Angus announced last week we are determined to take a very tough stand on immigration, which is out of control under Labor. One point four million people have come to this country in three years under Labor.
00:35:32
Speaker 4: This is a broken system.
00:35:33
Speaker 20: So we are putting Australian values at the heart of immigration policy and as part of that we will deport those who are here illegally. The estimate at the moment is seventy seven thousand. It could be climbing up to one hundred thousand. But we won't stand by and do what Labor has done and allow people here illegally to remain in this country.
00:35:55
Speaker 4: So we are taking a very tough approach.
00:35:57
Speaker 20: We are putting Australian values first, are saying to the Austraining people that unless immigration has managed properly, our housing security, our services, our infrastructure will continue to be japandized as of course, as happened under this government.
00:36:13
Speaker 8: Okay, so you've got that seventy seven thousand, whatever the number is, people who need to be removed, whether they're deported or self deport That deportation, that's a huge effort. What would the Coalist proposed to do to actually physically remove those who don't wish to be removed? And the reason why I asked this is because there was a really interesting poll the IPA did with Fox and Hedgehog the other week. They said that a lot of people who've gone over one nation would come back to Coalition if they had a strong immigration policy, but many of them said, also, we don't trust that actually in government they'd go through with it. So how would know the Coalage to actually go about getting rid of these people who shouldn't be here?
00:36:55
Speaker 4: Well, James, it's very simple.
00:36:58
Speaker 20: They will be boosted out of the country, they will be deported, they will be taken to the gates at the airports and removed from this country.
00:37:06
Speaker 4: We just won't tolerate it.
00:37:08
Speaker 20: We want in this country immigrants who put Australian values first, and when immigrants are breaching our laws. When they are breaching their visa conditions, they will be booted out.
00:37:22
Speaker 6: Pure and simple, say, Australian values will be at the heart of the immigration policy. But what about the number, Because it's all comes down to the number. We've had record numbers coming in under labor When are we going to get a definitive number from the.
00:37:37
Speaker 5: Coalition of their target figure for immigration.
00:37:43
Speaker 4: Will Rita.
00:37:44
Speaker 20: We will know more about the numbers as we get closer to the election. I mean, the numbers are all over the shop under labor net, overseas migration is completely out of control. Every single Treasury forecast that Australians have been told about has been wrong and so we will have more to say about that. But look, the bottom line is we are absolutely determined to shut down the hate, to remove people from this country who hate Australia, who subscribe to values which are not consistent with the rule of law, with our freedoms, and there is no holds broach. We are going to be so tough and under Angus Taylor's leadership, he has made that very very clear.
00:38:24
Speaker 2: Now, Sarah a question without notice. We were talking earlier about the first nation's ambassador Justin Muhammad, who's ratcheted up kind of eight hundred thousand dollars worth of international flights first class to places like Switzerland and so on. Isn't this the sort of thing you're always terrific in centered estimates. Isn't this the sort of thing that the Coalition needs to be either in government acting or demanding accountability from Labor for this. I mean, Australians we go, You've got to be kidding me, nearly a million bucks on first class travel?
00:39:00
Speaker 20: What well Australians expect to get their government to treat every taxpayer.
00:39:10
Speaker 4: Dollar very preciously.
00:39:12
Speaker 20: And when they've got officials running around the world spending millions of dollars on travel, that is inconsistent with the fact that we are in a full blown economic crisis under labor.
00:39:23
Speaker 4: Let's not forget Rowan.
00:39:25
Speaker 20: We've got skyrocketing interest rates, skyrocketing inflation. You know, of course the government announced the harving of the field tax, but no offset. So this is an economy out of control under labor. And when you see officials running around the world that is just inconsistent with their responsibility to Australians. And of course the minutes of the communications. She has been enmeshed in multiple travel wrought scandals, spending one hundred thousand dollars just to go to New York for a couple of days. This is unacceptable and not on and this government must do must better than that.
00:40:01
Speaker 2: Absolutely indeed, Sarah Henderson, thanks so much for coming on on Sunday morning to check to us on outsiders. And I'll speak again soon that Sarah Henderson Senator there for Victoria.
00:40:10
Speaker 1: And coming up after the break.
00:40:11
Speaker 2: We'rel some emissions impossible, lots to talk about there, can it tick? Yes, it's our mission and we do accept it every single week to point out the insanity of the net zero entire emissions scam, renewables, all the rest of it.
00:40:31
Speaker 1: Just as a coincidence.
00:40:33
Speaker 2: Reader, and James, did you know that global warming has hit America.
00:40:37
Speaker 1: Very hard this week?
00:40:38
Speaker 2: But people are expected to be freezing in the next week or so as they head into the summer.
00:40:44
Speaker 1: There's a record freeze in the USA. The East is about to see.
00:40:48
Speaker 2: Temperatures plummet Alaskan weather across America. There you go, global warming. Maybe we send Chris Bowen over there to experience it for a few hours. But listen, I wanted to play this here. This is from Electroverse and it's about why.
00:41:05
Speaker 1: Suddenly the big.
00:41:06
Speaker 2: End of town in the States has lost interest in the whole net zero climate thing.
00:41:11
Speaker 1: They want energy? Why do they want energy?
00:41:13
Speaker 19: Have a look, hey, Marine Ferruki, why did you vote no to Pauline Hansen's motion to investigate NDIS wrong?
00:41:22
Speaker 1: Grab how Marene Ferugi got in there?
00:41:25
Speaker 8: That was pretty good.
00:41:28
Speaker 6: That was Marine Fruki being asked why she voted against one nation motion. I think they were looking at waste in the NDIS and fraud in the NDIS and shout a whole crew there, James blocking cameras and an independent journalist just asking a very straightforward question of why did you vote a particular way?
00:41:48
Speaker 8: And I don't getting off of emissions here, but this comes back to exactly what I was saying there about how Trump infects everything in domestic policy on the left. So now Trump is cracking down on fraud, So we can't crack down on fraud because of it's hilarious.
00:42:04
Speaker 5: Ford is suddenly good fraud.
00:42:06
Speaker 1: We let that report of that report was the one who works with Drew Pavlou. Amazing stuff.
00:42:15
Speaker 9: On that.
00:42:17
Speaker 2: While we're talking about let's get back to our topic, which is of course emissions. Chris Min's PREMI looking at buying emergency diesel stockpile for New South Wales.
00:42:28
Speaker 1: Turns out, oh New South Wales desperately needs.
00:42:31
Speaker 5: Well, this is South Wales.
00:42:32
Speaker 6: This is a sign that the states do not have faith in Anthony Albanesi's national plan. WA has gone it alone, got their own fuel reserves. Chris Mins is looking at doing the same and I'm sure the other states will soon follow. And it really does James undermine Anthony Albernini's weational coordinator.
00:42:54
Speaker 8: This is this is you know, we are setting up all the pieces are coming together on the board for replay of COVID here. You know, because w A, which again remember went its own way during COVID. You know they've started the bowl, they've started the separatists are there. You know, they want to go their own way, build that wall across the desert. That's the one thing. But then the second thing here Chris Mins saying yeah, yeah, we might look at this here. Well, that's a sense here to me. This tells me that, as you say, Rena, the states are starting to go their own way, but also tells me that alban Easy could very quickly start to have a really big problem because if all states start deciding to have their own policies on fossil fuels, I mean, it's not COVID, it's maybe CO two VID or something like that. But sorry, bad chemistry joke. But this is a replay of you know that sort of weak executive that we saw during the Morrison government, you know, heading it over to the states. We'll do a national cabinet, but the states will drive it. And the states were driven of course by the health officers. I don't know who they've been driven by, you know, in this case. But this is again sort of thing where stresses show how brittle the Australian Federation is.
00:44:05
Speaker 2: Well, this is well, actually I think it's not brittle enough. I think we need more competition between the states, and I think this is where we where. For example, in Queensland at the moment David Chrius Sophulia is going drill, baby, drill, let's get out there.
00:44:18
Speaker 1: We've got oil.
00:44:19
Speaker 2: More competition between the states would actually see the states that run their economies efficiently actually doing well and people wanting to move to those states. As happens in America doesn't happen here because they have the ridiculous GST which sends basically on a communist formula of to each according to their needs and from each according to what they can give. So where we in New South Wales are busy financing mendicant states like Victorian Tasmania and those and just on that.
00:44:46
Speaker 6: OVID analogy, I don't know. We don't like to think about that era. But let's not forget that it was the state's going and alone. It was really John Perrote going it alone with some hotel quarantine policy. Is that forced the federal government to reopen the country? Will you remember that Perte was really setting the tone for the country. So yeah, perhaps it's a good thing for this fracture.
00:45:13
Speaker 2: To Absolutely, I think the more competition between the states the better.
00:45:16
Speaker 1: I'm sure w A would agree.
00:45:18
Speaker 2: Interestingly, a statistic came out that we are, per capita, the highest diesel users on the planet. I believe we use more diesel per person than any other country or any certainly any other major economy.
00:45:32
Speaker 6: So I think we've got so many refineries working there.
00:45:35
Speaker 2: But again back to what James was saying about the Shire stupidity of the ideology of Chris Bowen and this renewables madness, when it's a complete fantasy.
00:45:45
Speaker 8: This is the thing that diesel. Know the reason why we use so much diesel in this country, Well look at them at people. We've got this concentrated population here in a few big cities Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, per et cetera. And then it's strict starting along the coast, and you've got this vast hinterland where all the agriculture and minerals have happened. It happens all of that is insanely diesel intens So that's what keeps our economy going. You know, you can't run those massive equipments on batteries. You can't take those huge, you know, one hundred car coal trains to Newcastle to get the coal out of the country and sell it overseas to bring back foreign currency. You can't run those on electricity batteries. It has to be diesel. And this again is the utter fantasy of this government to think we live in some you know, this is the bubble, and it's a bubble. It's a labor bubble. You know, they all live in suburbs where they can all have evs plugged into their garage and everything like that. But you know, they act like the whole country is the Netherlands or something like that.
00:46:49
Speaker 6: We're nots but where they live is like the Netherlands. They live in the inner suburbs, and they think that's a strategy and not only interchangeable with these teeny tiny European countries. Can we go back to hate you started this segment. We had that missing grab, but we can act it out so it'll be fun.
00:47:10
Speaker 8: We've got it.
00:47:12
Speaker 1: Technology, We're right there. Listen to this.
00:47:15
Speaker 21: This is Amazon's new eleven billion dollar AI data center campus in Saint Joseph County, Indiana. It will draw two point two gigabats of electricity, the output of a large power plant, enough to supply roughly one million homes. It will also consume around three hundred million gallons of water per year. For years, the public was told energy had to be rationed, use less, dismantle reliable sources except scarcity, all to save the planet.
00:47:39
Speaker 1: But now they need the big end of town needs AI. Suddenly they need energy. Drill, baby drills.
00:47:46
Speaker 2: They've all got onto the energy bandwagon because of AI about the SERI.
00:47:51
Speaker 6: Someone like Bill Gates, who's spent the last decade or so telling us to eat bugs and basically bankruft ourselves destroy our lib standards to save the planet from catastrophic climate change.
00:48:03
Speaker 5: It's just now sort of done a complete one eighty. Oh it's not such a big deal after all. So I wonder if that is the motivator more than anything.
00:48:11
Speaker 2: It's so funny this but what you know again back to how Australia is falling behind on every single measure. Australia is falling behind, will never be up there with the AI mob because we don't have the energy we could have it.
00:48:25
Speaker 8: Not only that rowd, not only that road. All of the big companies, Amazon, Google, all of these guys, they're all looking at and in America you can just do things, and they are looking at building their own small module reactors to power these data centers because you know, the draw on the grid is too great. You know, they also have hydroelectrical there too, which we don't really have except Tasmania. But like, this is just why it is so unbelievable to me. You look at the last thirty years we talked about Singapore. Le Kwan new all of that. It is amazing how we have just buy choice by policy by both parties, I will add, by both parties. So don't say this is a I'm just going after labor on this. Both parties have run down this country, made it a regulatory nightmare to do business. The entire economy is now so regulated that it is that is that the thought of like actually deregulating is anathema to the entire political class. You hear when we talked to the Liberpol politicians here too. They are very reticent to talk about cutting bureaucracy cutting because oh no, we're going to fire a public servants, God forbid. You know, somebody with a lanyard loses their job, you know. But you know, look at Argentina. We're going to turn into Argentina pre Malay if we're not careful.
00:49:42
Speaker 2: Well, Argentina is getting great guns thanks to Harvey Amla.
00:49:46
Speaker 6: And people who pretend to care about povergy and entrenched disadvantage don't talk about Argentina because he went in there and he did everything that the activist class, the academic class tells us would be devastating to those who are struggling financially, and the reverses happen. They have slashed the poverty rate by ending welfare programs. Why is that because if you actually allow people to provide for themselves, they will do a better job than allowing the government to provide for them. And the experience. The fact that he's done it so quickly Rowan is extraordinary to me. I thought this would be decades perhaps to reverse the damage that we saw after decades.
00:50:37
Speaker 8: Did it quickly.
00:50:37
Speaker 2: You can do it quickly. Trump's done it quickly. If we had a decent conservative government or a one nation government or something like that in here.
00:50:44
Speaker 1: They could quickly reverse it. But it would be very, very hard work. It would be a lot of hard work.
00:50:48
Speaker 2: We're in a reverse capitalist situation now where I saw a thing. An energy company is paying people to not use energy. So we're in reverse capitalism. Now. They're bribing you to not use your energy. They'll give you a if you don't use your energy. That is reverse capitalism, incentivizing you to not use be profitable, to incentivize you to not be productive.
00:51:09
Speaker 6: It's almost like there's some sort of market manipulation happening sector.
00:51:13
Speaker 5: I mean, really, I mean, it's almost like the subsidies.
00:51:17
Speaker 6: The taxpayers giving to the renewables and the energy companies is just warping the market.
00:51:22
Speaker 1: And they all work on a Saturday, don't they. Chris, We're going to take a short break.
00:51:26
Speaker 2: When we come back, I'll talk a bit more about America and Australia politic. Hello, you're watching Outsiders with Rita Prairie Queen Panahee James born in the USA, Morrow and myself Rowan all away with DJT Dean. Much of my childhood and Canbrell is influenced by American culture. We used to play cowboys and Indians in our street gang, roaming all over the gullies of Redhill, firing bows and arrows and issuing blood curdling cries as we pretended to scalp each other. It built resilience and a sense of fierce competition in US young kids, and may well explain why the youngest member of our gang, Campbell, went on to be one of Queensland's best premieres before being scalped by Anastasia Palichet. My favorite childhood TV show was, of course, Rowan and Martin's Laughing.
00:52:18
Speaker 15: Goldie.
00:52:18
Speaker 1: If you believed in something strongly enough, would you go on a hunger strike?
00:52:23
Speaker 9: No, I could not want to diet.
00:52:29
Speaker 2: Along with enjoying American culture, it was ingrained into every Aussie school kid that we also enjoyed American military protection. That the United States was the ultimate military power on Earth that had come to our rescue in the Battle of the Coral Sea in World War II, and was the reason we weren't all now speaking Japanese.
00:52:49
Speaker 8: And as the body can't get hired, you'll.
00:52:52
Speaker 1: Telephone back ho the wore just.
00:52:58
Speaker 2: And as the Vietnam Vietnam more rage, our own diggers fought bravely alongside the Americans.
00:53:04
Speaker 1: We Aussies, or most of us at least went all the way with LBJ, will go all away with them.
00:53:13
Speaker 2: And as every Ossie knew back then, the US would always be there like the cavalry, to come to our rescue if we ever faced another invasion by the Baddies to our north. In return, as the Howard government knew only too well, the best way Australia could shore up that long term defense guarantee was to play deputy sheriff to the mighty US whenever we were asked to. But there has always been, typically, but not exclusively, amongst the left in Australia, a kind of knee jerk suspicion and loathing of all things American Americans are too brash, to uncouth, too materialistic for we progressive sophisticated types from lefty Australia. We saw it from Keating and again during the Howard years, Mark Latham describing the Liberal Party's acquiescent to the Americans being ah A conga line of suckles was Mark's colorful phrase. But the conga line came to a crashing holt when the left leaning, uber sophisticated ABC and Guardian loving Malcolm Turnbull stabbed Tony Abbott in the back and grabbed the Prime ministership for himself. Turnbull was a keen Barack Obama Hillary Clinton fan who couldn't even be bothered meeting candidate Trump. When Trump went on to win that election, much to the horror of the Bedweaders, the best Malcolm Turnbull, or mister Trumbull as the new president called him could get was an awkward phone call. Scott Morrison then managed repair the critical US Australia relationship, but the only decent thing he did pretty much in my opinion, in his entire time as Prime Minister, and Morrison helped set up the Orchis Agreement between America, Britain and Australia, including the arrangement to purchase U S subs. Now we can play soldiers and sub mariners together with the Americans, as well as.
00:55:00
Speaker 1: Boys and Indians.
00:55:01
Speaker 2: And then, for reasons that I still find absolutely baffling, following Trump's November twenty twenty four victory, instead of eagerly embracing him, Peter Dutton decided to hurtle down the full blown Trump derangement syndrome anti Trump path, pandering to the lefties and the bedwetters with his asinine comment that all there's nothing to be afraid of in Trump's second victory, rather than, as I urged repeated at the time, drawing a clear distinction with labor and backing Trump and America to the hilt. I believe it was that cowardice and craven disloyalty that cost the Liberals the twenty twenty five election that by then most opinion polls, by the way, had them comfortably winning. There's nothing more off putting than weak and disloyal leaders who betray their friends. Instead, the mere mention of Donald Trump and Peter Dutton turned to jelly Or was that Jello? Even chastising just center price for me merely saying, let's.
00:56:00
Speaker 1: Make Australia great again? What you want to make it worse again? Do you?
00:56:05
Speaker 6: Was that it?
00:56:06
Speaker 1: You liberal geniuses?
00:56:08
Speaker 2: But now the anti American rot has well and truly set in. Emboldened by Dutton's obvious case of Trump derangement syndrome, the alban Easy government felt quite comfortable doing what Labor have long dreamed of doing, but we're always too terrified to do, to give the US the middle finger in a war that is absolutely critical for world peace and prosperity and even arguably Western civilization, not to mention Middle East stability. Donald Trump asked America's little Deputy Sheriff of Australia for.
00:56:40
Speaker 1: Our help, and Labour said no, rack Off Trump.
00:56:46
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not happier with Australia because they were not because they were not there when we asked them to be there.
00:56:52
Speaker 8: So Australia you asked for, Australia was another one. They were not there. Happy to do with Harmo's armors, what do.
00:56:58
Speaker 2: You do not forget the Albanesi government has form in the treachery game. Albanesian labour betrayed Israel repeatedly with the idiotic and pointless recognition of the non state of Palestine, and by a litany of anti Israel pronouncements and actions by our appalling foreign minister Penny One, but betraying the United States of America certainly takes the Anzac biscuit or the Oreo cookie.
00:57:23
Speaker 1: If you prefer.
00:57:24
Speaker 2: Starting with the disgraceful appointing of chronic tedious Suffra Kevin Rudd as the US Ambassador, a decision unbelievably approved of by Peter Dutton, which brings us to the miserable position we find ourselves in today. Thanks to a decade of weak liberal and labor governments, this country is now on the brink of a recession. We are massively in debt, our welfare spending is corrupt and off the charts.
00:57:50
Speaker 1: We have no army or navy worthy of the name.
00:57:53
Speaker 2: We have betrayed our most important ally, and our Prime Minister is fulfilling the Kwannu's prophecy of us being the miserable white trash of Asia, wandering around with a begging ball, saying to the grand pubas of Southeast Asia.
00:58:10
Speaker 1: Please, sir, I want so.
00:58:16
Speaker 8: More.
00:58:18
Speaker 2: This is not just hugely embarrassing, it's far, far worse than that. Labour have seriously, seriously weakened this nation's long term security and therefore potential prosperity.
00:58:29
Speaker 1: There was never any shame in admitting that.
00:58:32
Speaker 2: We are a colonial outpost of the West, stranded far away from our natural allies and friends, because that's.
00:58:38
Speaker 1: What we are.
00:58:40
Speaker 2: Nor is there any shame in recognizing our long close ties cultural, economic, and historic to our cousins in America, by far the most powerful military nation the planet has ever seen. And there is certainly no shame in as John Howard instinctively recognized, doing favors for the US when we can whenever the opportunity forwards it. That's just smart instincts. But make no mistake, the Labor government, egged on by the actions of the liberals at the last election, have deliberately shredded, if not destroyed, the single greatest and cheapest and most effective security.
00:59:15
Speaker 1: Blanket this nation has ever had. Our us, buddy, and for what.
00:59:22
Speaker 2: Because the pathetic bedwetters and lefties who make up the chattering classes of the Canberra bubble and the pearl clutching teds media types don't like Donald Trump's personality, or his haircut, or his late night tweets or whatever. It is. Great work, canbra Great work, guys. But here's the real irony. If Peter Dunton had been strong, and had he said, as I repeatedly urged him to the day after Trump was elected, that we under a coalition government, we too would pull out of Paris, Dunton could and should have said, with our greatest ally America now out of Paris, it makes no scientific or economic sense for us to be staying in. So the Coalition will fight the twenty twenty five election on a commitment to abandon net zero and pull out of the Paris Agreement, and to recommence drilling for oil and gas across Australia and to rebuild our refining capabilities to help ensure our own energy security in these dangerous times. Because Donald Trump has committed to doing just that, and we will increase our military spend in line with US expectations.
01:00:32
Speaker 1: Dutton could have said that.
01:00:34
Speaker 2: Dutton should have said that, and I'm not speaking with the benefit of hindsight I said that on this show and in the Spectator Australia repeatedly at the time. Had Dutton done that, the last election would in all likelihood have been way closer and the Coalition could or would have won.
01:00:52
Speaker 1: Forget the idiotic focus groups.
01:00:53
Speaker 2: The public like strong leaders, strong commitments, and the fact that only one in three Australians voted for Late in twenty twenty five shows that there was no great enthusiasm for this pathetically weak socialist alban Easy government. Oh and by the way, you won't hear this anywhere else on the Australian media. But I'll repeat what I said last week and what I said six weeks ago. Donald Trump is the greatest US president of our lifetimes. Donald Trump has won this war against Iran. Not quite over, but the monstrous regime has been thoroughly defanged. Sure, there will still be some skirmishes in the coming weeks and months as the Old Guard try and prevent their inevitable overthrow at the hands of the Iranian people. It won't be pretty, it'll be bloody, but it will happen. America and Israel, working hand in hand, had pulled off the greatest victory since the fall of the Berlin Wall, possibly since World War II. This victory for the Abraham Alliance will usher in a new era of something approaching.
01:01:53
Speaker 1: Peace, maybe peace in the Middle East, and.
01:01:57
Speaker 2: Reassert American economic and military so premacy across the globe.
01:02:02
Speaker 1: And that is a good thing, a very good thing.
01:02:05
Speaker 2: We could and should have been a critical part of that very good thing. We could and should have sent whatever support we could, but especially moral support to the cause when Donald Trump asked for it.
01:02:19
Speaker 1: That's what mates do for each other. That's the Aussie way.
01:02:22
Speaker 2: We could and we should have been holding our heads high today with our friends America and Israel. Oh and the US would almost certainly have happily given us all the oil we wanted rather than us having to go begging around the boondogs of Southeast Asia miserably. But no labour shows this moment, after our long and proud history together, to break up with our best friends Israel, a great vibrant democracy and the United States, the wealthiest, strongest, most valuable friend.
01:02:54
Speaker 1: Any nation could ever have.
01:02:57
Speaker 2: And instead we've thrown in our lot with the woke, weak, cowardly, impotent forces of the cringeworthy socialist European Union, Well done, Albo, well done, Peter Darton, well done, Canberra.
01:03:12
Speaker 1: Bubble, well done.
01:03:14
Speaker 2: Pathetic hand ringers of the sniveling media, well done.
01:03:17
Speaker 1: Fake conservatives.
01:03:20
Speaker 2: If you were watching, all I can say is if you're too stupid to realize how efficiently and comprehensively Trump has prosecuted this war, if you are too slow witted to comprehend how superior his tactics, his strategies, and his.
01:03:42
Speaker 1: Instincts have been.
01:03:44
Speaker 2: And if you're so myopic you cannot grasp how critical his victory is for the entire world, then you have either never studied history, never read sun Zoo, let alone The Art of the Deal, or else you are suffering from acute Trump derangement syndrome and should seek urgent medicalists.
01:04:00
Speaker 1: I know a reputable doctor.
01:04:04
Speaker 5: We need a doctor.
01:04:20
Speaker 1: Now let's get to check on the latest in Iran.
01:04:22
Speaker 2: Let's bring doctor Quanta Ahmed Fellow at the Independent Women's Forum. Great to see your Quanta. Now you've got lots to talk to us about. But before we get into Iran, let's talk Hezbolah Israel. What is happening in the Lebanon.
01:04:36
Speaker 22: So we are about ten hours into the announcement of the first ceasefire with them, though Hesbla has no intention. Israel and Lebanon have already started a dialogue you saw with Marco Rubio, actually the first contact that they've had in decades, which is very promising. But without the disarmament of Hesbla, Hesbela remains not only a threat to Lebanon but also Israel and probably the last feather in Iran's cap.
01:05:04
Speaker 6: Rita, how do you see the conflict in Iran ending? There's all sorts of domestic pressures coming to bear on President Trump. Do you see this conflict stretching out for days, weeks.
01:05:21
Speaker 5: Perhaps months?
01:05:23
Speaker 9: So, Rita.
01:05:24
Speaker 22: This seafire which is set to end on Wednesday between the United States and Israel, excuse me, United States in Iran, excuse me, I think is.
01:05:37
Speaker 9: Rather a mirage. We've seen that the IRGC, the.
01:05:41
Speaker 22: Iranian Revolutionary Guard, targeted an Indian tanker carrying Iraqi oil with open fire, so they're not holding up their part of the seasfire. Everybody is girding for more conflicts. In the United States now has forty one percent of its actively deployed naval assets in the region, The largest deployment of American force since two thousand and three, and in fact overshadowing that deployment, So we are all anticipating more conflict.
01:06:12
Speaker 9: We'll have to see. I think the vital dialogue is.
01:06:14
Speaker 22: Actually between Pakistan's Field Marshal Arsinmunir and President Trump. I think that's when we'll know if that ceasefire is collapsing, and I see it as collapsing Wednesday or before.
01:06:27
Speaker 8: So Quanta, where does this then wind up going? I mean, we'd been told that the Iranian Navy was basically still at the bottom of the ocean of the Persian Gulf, but they do seem to have enough ships to be able to mount these attacks on this tanker. So that's the first question. But then who was actually doing that negotiating via Pakistan with the Trump administration Because my understanding the male I've gotten is that there's multiple different factions and that at the moment the regime could be running on a sort of a dead man and switch autopilot, where commanders emans are just firing and doing things independent of orders because there's no one to give them. How do you control that?
01:07:10
Speaker 22: I think you saw that today with the IRGC opening fire when the Iranian Foreign Ministry was saying that the Horn News was open for peaceable passage.
01:07:19
Speaker 9: So yes, that is a problem. I think there are a couple of things happening.
01:07:24
Speaker 22: This is, as Rowan articulated in his opening monologue, incredible and overwhelming American power.
01:07:32
Speaker 9: This is the boot on the throne of Iran.
01:07:34
Speaker 22: To understand it does not get to operate Hormus as a choke point.
01:07:38
Speaker 9: Number two.
01:07:40
Speaker 22: Whether the midterms or am are the American administration's choke point is another matter. But this is also a demonstration for China as to what could happen if there is a war in the Taiwan Straits.
01:07:51
Speaker 9: So the Americans, we are all in. This is only going to.
01:07:56
Speaker 22: End with the denuclearization of Iran and the complete capacitation of the Iranian regime to operate outside of its borders where it has decimated innumerable countries neighboring it, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, so many threats to Israel, Lebanon. That is ending, and I don't think the Iranians understand that yet.
01:08:21
Speaker 2: Quanta, I want to ask you, you've you know, you know Saudi Arabia very well. You've worked there We've spoken in the past, several years ago about the burgeoning Abraham Accord as it then was, which now appears to be an Abraham Alliance.
01:08:38
Speaker 1: Did you ever think you would see the.
01:08:40
Speaker 2: Day when the Saudis would basically be on the same side as Israel and America against Iran, So specifically, I.
01:08:50
Speaker 9: Think it was very predictable.
01:08:52
Speaker 22: There are so many interests that the Saudis and the Gulf States and the Israelis have together, and also the open menace that Iran has been to the Gulf States has just been completely unveiled. The other thing that's very interesting is there's a very strong relationship between Saudi Arabia and Pakistan that is the major broker in these talks and is now providing an intensified mutual defense agreement between satdare Ay and Pakistan, which may even expand to a nuclear umbrella from Pakistan to Saudi Arabia. So I think that the alliance is expanding. We are going to see Lebanon make peace with Israel. I'm fairly certain of that. Hezbola will be then collectively addressed by Israel, the United States, and the Lebanese armed forces. I think we are also going to find the Gulf States recognized. Their survival and their thriving is going to be in line with the Abraham Accords nations. So before the end of this President Trump's administrator in four years, I do think we're going to see an expanded Accords and the pariah will not be an Arab boycotted Israeli state. It is going to be a world boycotted Iranian regime remnant.
01:10:15
Speaker 9: If they still remain in existence.
01:10:18
Speaker 6: What is the role China is playing in this conflict? China gets most of Iran's oil eighty ninety percent. Are they going to exert pressure on the regime to come to a deal and to stick to a deal, not to break a cease fire deal within hours?
01:10:37
Speaker 22: So certainly China is critical for Iranian exports, as you've mentioned, but China receives only about fourteen percent of its energy needs from Iran, so China is well prepared to have lost that supply for the moment. Is strategically accumulated, but it's provided incredible facial recognition technology, other cyber technology, armaments, surveillance information to enable the regime to oppress the Iranian people brutally, murder and target them, silence them as well as wage this war. So I think that is where you're going to see the United States negotiating directly with China to discourage China from continuing that. And I think that's why President Trump feels confident he can bring this conflict to an end.
01:11:28
Speaker 1: And Quanta, just, I know you're living in New York these days.
01:11:33
Speaker 2: How are you finding life under the communist Donni? Have you been down to one of his grocery stores and got some free cabbages or whatever?
01:11:43
Speaker 9: That's right?
01:11:45
Speaker 22: So fortunately I don't have to live in New York City full time. I am hearing about his grocery stores. I think he's planned five for our city, which is approximately eight million residents, and the first one won't be built until the end of this decade when he's out of office. At the moment, I have found him to have no impact whatsoever on New York City. Most of us that live here are fairly cynical.
01:12:11
Speaker 2: Fantastic Quanta, Ahmed, always say great to chat to you. Thanks for all your insights there on the Middle East. That's doctor Quanta. Amen coming out next, James truth Bomb in a tick.
01:12:20
Speaker 1: Thank you.
01:12:28
Speaker 8: Hello, you're watching out Siders with your hosts Rowan Dean, Rita Panahy and myself James Morrow and today on truth Bomb, I want to expose one of the greatest bits of gas lighting the left has inflicted on the culture since Oh, I don't know climate change or Black Lives Matter or the Russia hoax. I'm talking, of course, about the huge moral panic the left has driven about toxic masculinity and the mana sphere. Now, the theory, which I'm sure you've heard, is that young men and boys are going online and being subjected to all sorts of terrible influencers who are making them hate women and what's worse, vote conservative. You know, the drill people like Andrew Tate are driving young men to think, to and do all sorts of horrible things. And to be fair, no doubt some of the things people in this corner of the Internet post are a bit weird and often very unpleasant. But the panic from the left has of course been on this over the top. I mean, recall the phenomenon of the British Netflix drama Adolescence, which is all about a fictionalized case about a shall we say, statistically unlikely murder of a teenage girl by a young white, middle class teen boy, who, of course was inspired by the toxic manisphere to commit his horrible crime. And yet here is where the gas lighting comes in. While the culture is flooded with panic about right wing influencers and boys, we are not told a thing about what is happening on the left, and very often with young women. Take for example, the case of Hassan Piker, an American internet streamer and commentator with at least three point one million followers, who is now dividing the Democrat Party. Now you've probably not heard of him. So who is this guy? You ask, Well, in recent years on the left, he has become a great hero of the radical communist there's no other word for it. I'm afraid radical communist left. And he has some shall we say, interesting opinions.
01:14:41
Speaker 23: America deserved nine to eleven, dude, I'm saying.
01:14:45
Speaker 8: Yes, that's right, America deserved nine to eleven. And as they say on TV, but wait, there's more.
01:14:51
Speaker 24: When you say hamas a thousand times better, do you actually mean that or is that a rhetorical move or like a solidarity signal?
01:14:59
Speaker 1: Like what what I mean? It's all of the above. I do mean it.
01:15:03
Speaker 24: I think it's a rhetorical move because it frustrates a lot of people. I've also said, I'm a harm reduction voter. I'm a lesser evil voter, and therefore I would vote for Hamas over Israel every single time.
01:15:12
Speaker 8: Ah, yes, Hamas, you know that well known lesser evil. He'd vote with them over Israel every single time. How charming. And he's also got some interesting ideas about housing policy. And forget the debates we're having a destraya about negative gearing. Here's what he'd do with property investors. My understanding is that the property owners who have properties there choose just not to rent it at all.
01:15:36
Speaker 19: Yeah, kill them, kill those mother murder those in the street, Let the streets, Let the streets soak in their red capitalist bloods.
01:15:44
Speaker 8: Dude, I told you he was a communist. And for those out there watching who are old enough to remember the joy of Eastern Europeans at the fall of the Berlin Wall, well they had it all wrong.
01:15:58
Speaker 24: The fall of the USSR was one of the greatest catastrophes of the twentieth century.
01:16:05
Speaker 8: Just wait, listen, maybe you'll agree. I played that last grab. I played that grab last, because it was at a debate just this past week at the historic Yale University in the United States, one of the greatest of the Ivy League elite factories. And here was how Hassan Piker was welcomed when he entered the debating hall. So there you see it. This is the very radical left of the Internet having a huge influence on very young people around America and indeed across the globe. Now there's a lot more, including videos in which it's claimed he was abusing his dog, which I won't show here, but you get the idea. This is the left of the Internet and it is increasingly influencing Democrat policies in the US, but also leftist policies around the globe. And after letting Piker and others like him, the establishment wing of the Democrats suddenly realized him we have a problem. In Michigan, a Democrat senatorial candidate did an event with Piker, setting off a firestorm of controversy in the party and its fellow travelers, some of whom are now realizing that while they were off complaining about that toxic manisphere right, they've been letting a cancer grow un checked on the left. The New York Times this week ran a column about Hassan Piker's rise, originally entitled Hassan Piker is not the Enemy, but after receiving some backlash for receiving to defend Piker, it changed the headline to this is why there is no liberal Joe Rogan.
01:17:47
Speaker 1: There you have it.
01:17:48
Speaker 8: You see the game that they're playing, referring to, of course, to another one of those awful pro culture podcasters the left loves to hate, and CNN's Dana Bash, perhaps concerned that young people or let's be very very fair here, very few people at all are watching her network has also taken out after Piker.
01:18:07
Speaker 11: Hassan Piker is excusing sexual violence by Hamas terrorists. He also claims Hamas is quote a thousand times better than Israel. Hamas is a designated terror organization not just by the US, but by the EU, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, just to name a few.
01:18:27
Speaker 8: And you know that if Australia has designated someone a terrorist organization, they must be pretty bad. Now, Remember, Piker and others gained prominence because the left weren't willing to call them out early, and so now they are stuck with him, and if only they had spent less time fretting about the right wing man is feared instead got in their own house in order this might not be happening.
01:18:52
Speaker 1: Yet.
01:18:53
Speaker 8: Let me tell you this piker may be deeply unpleasant, think and say a million wrong of defensive and just plain unhinged things, but he is also for the left, the generational face of the future. That reception that yeah, was telling, because that is the face of the same entitled but downwardly mobile, creative left that voted in Zorn Mamdani and wants full socialism to fund the lifestyles they think they deserve. And I know everyone was caught short in Australia, Well not everyone outsiders knew what was happening when conservative populism for lack of a better word, finally land in Australia. Sures well, I'm gonna say this here. Don't be surprised when the same sort of lefty lunacy lands here in force and in full.
01:19:49
Speaker 1: Thanks James. Scary stuff. Scary stuff.
01:19:52
Speaker 2: The Federal Court has allowed an appeal by a Victorian lesbian rights group that wants to legally exclude trans gender women I biological men from its public events for five years. The Lesbian Action Group sought an exemption to the Sex Discrimination Act. This was the group's third attempt at securing one after the Human Rights Commission rejected an application and an appeal.
01:20:23
Speaker 1: To talk more about this in Unpack It and what it means? Delighted to be joined by sal Grover.
01:20:30
Speaker 2: Sal, Great to see you, Great to have you back on Outsiders, your natural home.
01:20:34
Speaker 1: Here you are and tell us about this case.
01:20:40
Speaker 2: Does it have any bearings on the Giggle versus Tickle case, which you're still in the throes of five years down the track and outside as viewers will have heard you many times talking about that case, which obviously you can recap briefly. But tell us about this latest finding. Is it a good thing, a bad thing, somewhere in between?
01:21:02
Speaker 1: What's happened?
01:21:03
Speaker 18: Okay?
01:21:04
Speaker 10: So basically this is the first moment of common sense and reality that we've had from the judiciary in Australia on the subject of women's rights. Now we have the Australian Human Rights Commission that is determined to push ideology onto Australian citizens.
01:21:23
Speaker 18: This is they're using taxpayer dollars to go into court to say you.
01:21:27
Speaker 10: Must adhere to this ideology, gender ideology that says men women can be men, children can be born in the wrong body. You must adhere to that otherwise you're breaking the law. What this particular judge has said in the Lesbian Action group case is okay, go back and do this case again, and this time everyone involved remember while you're talking about.
01:21:48
Speaker 18: Gender ideology that women and lesbians also have rights.
01:21:52
Speaker 10: So on this very stupid journey to get the Australian Human Rights Commission to remember that there are more citizens in this country than just gender ideologues.
01:22:03
Speaker 18: It's a step in the right direction. So we're very excited for it in that capacity.
01:22:07
Speaker 2: Excellent, okay, And does it have a bearing on Giggle versus Tickle? And just briefly recap where you're up to on that case and the history of that case for people who aren't aware of it.
01:22:17
Speaker 18: Okay.
01:22:18
Speaker 10: So I created a woman only app in Oh Gosh, getting ready to launch in twenty twenty, so a long time ago. Now Transacts activists came after one took me to court in that particular case, these Dreaming Rants Commission intervened again saying that men can be women. The judge agreed and said sex is changeable, men can be women. It was absolutely madness. We've appealed to four and a half years into this madness. At the moment, anyone who wants to read or learn more about it or support it can go to Giggle crowdfund dot com because it's been over a million dollars in legal fees. But we so the Lesbian Action Group in the Gigle case are obviously addressing very similar issues, but they're different parts of law, and we have already argued our case and we're now waiting for a decision. We're eight months into waiting for a decision the appeal, which is quite a long time.
01:23:07
Speaker 18: But what the Lesbian Action Group case has done is given hope and optimism that the.
01:23:13
Speaker 10: Federal Court of Australia is a bit sick and tired of the ideology that the Australian Commission is pushing in them.
01:23:21
Speaker 1: That we're very very optimistic rita.
01:23:25
Speaker 6: How captured by trans ideology is the Australian Human Rights Commission because their behavior throughout this entire ordeal, your case, this case and others like it, it really calls into question their fitness to remain the Australian Human Rights Commission because they seem to be just captured by one particular activist group and are pushing that barrow relentlessly completely.
01:23:53
Speaker 18: And I only agree with you.
01:23:54
Speaker 10: I will give you some insight to my experience with them. So they never once considered that maybe I would also have rights. From the moment I have received an Australian Human Rights complaint to the Federal Court appeal, they have just been ideology, ideology, ideology.
01:24:11
Speaker 1: And.
01:24:13
Speaker 10: Even in Federal Court when we were in there, they had like sort of the person I was in court with.
01:24:19
Speaker 18: Sitting with them in court as rather than being a neutral body. It was just it was utterly bizarre.
01:24:26
Speaker 10: And I think that that's why it's so important of what this judge has said of like you guys actually have a responsibility. Like when the Stephen Rice at the Australian did a freedom of information request on all of the correspondents within the AHRC about the Tickle v. Giggle case, they even in those emails internally they've never once considered women's rights. It's just been ideology. How can we make people accept this? How can we get people to see this in a positive light? It's just they have been completely captured. And I'm not opposed to there being some sort of human rights commission in in this country that is apolitical and is there to ensure that legislation is working properly and everyone's rights, every citizen's rights, are being considered. But that is not what is happening at the moment. This is a gender ideology commission that is using taxpayer money, government money to enforce an ideology upon citizens.
01:25:21
Speaker 6: Yes, you've got a sex dis discrimination commissioner who doesn't know what biological sex is.
01:25:26
Speaker 5: That's what she said. She doesn't understand the term biological mail.
01:25:31
Speaker 6: We've talked often here about the process being the punishment. Tell me about what this has done to your life, years of your life with this stress hanging over your head, having the Australian Human Rights Commission essentially coming after you, having activists come after you, the legal expenses.
01:25:52
Speaker 5: Tell me about that.
01:25:54
Speaker 10: Well, sometimes and I'll just be doing something really normal, I'll just stop and go, oh my god. I've been in the schedule court with an arm of the government for almost five.
01:26:04
Speaker 18: Years now, purely because I know what a woman is.
01:26:07
Speaker 1: That's it.
01:26:08
Speaker 18: I mean, this is just the most sort of basic reality that one can have.
01:26:14
Speaker 10: And this is why I always say that everybody should be invested in these cases.
01:26:18
Speaker 18: Whether you care about.
01:26:20
Speaker 10: Women's rights or lesbian rights or anything, everyone should actually care about freedom of speech, freedom of belief, and freedom of association. And that is what is at the core of what we're fighting, because gender ideology is in opposition to these most basic human rights. And if we allow places like the Australian Rights Commission or the Australian government to go unchecked with this, anyone else can wake up tomorrow or any year and go, hang on a second, where are all my rights and not realize that we were fighting for them years ago. So that's why it's so important for us to win. And yeah, the price of it's being crazy, it's exhausting, it's expensive, it's maddening. I just want to run.
01:26:58
Speaker 18: I wanted to run a woman only platform. That's it. That's my crime. I want to run a woman only platform and live my life.
01:27:05
Speaker 10: And if you want to go and create lesbian plus men who claim to be lesbian spaces or women plus men who claim to women's spaces.
01:27:13
Speaker 18: I'm not going to stop you.
01:27:14
Speaker 10: I just think that the law also has to recognize that there are women and lesbians who want those specific spaces and not have to adhere to an ideology.
01:27:24
Speaker 1: It's really that simportant, James.
01:27:26
Speaker 8: So so I just want to ask very quickly here when you talk about what's happened to this case, right, you're saying that it's not really a full win, but now it's going to be more of a competition of one set of rights versus another versus what it should be I think, which is reality versus perceived rights. Given the judges live in the world that we all live in, is it potentially influencing the judiciary when things like as Rita said, you've got people at asseted estimates being unable to define a woman. Does that sort of thing then set a ton for the bench that then, you know, says this is where it says to the bench, this is where society and the government is going. And does that you know worry you?
01:28:11
Speaker 1: Well?
01:28:11
Speaker 10: I would hope that any judge listening to a piece where gender ideology is being argued would sit there and realize that they themselves, as individual citizens, also have rights and that this could impact them as well.
01:28:24
Speaker 18: That we're not arguing some.
01:28:26
Speaker 10: Obscure idea here it is just objective reality and I you know, Australia is embarrassingly behind on this issue. Just recently the International Olympic Committee has come out and said, you know, women's sport is exclusively for women. There's no other kind. You don't have to say biological, it is just women. And you know, I mean this is where the rubber is going to hit the road in twenty thirty two. If Australia hasn't worked this out. What's Australia going to do for the month long celebration of the Brisbane Olympics to say, oh, no, we're going to force these men who poing through women into the Olympics to go against the recipe world Or are they going to say, oh guys, just for a month, we're not women.
01:29:10
Speaker 2: Sal Grove always fantastic to chat to you. You do fight for all our rights. You're absolutely right, not only women's rights. So remind you is again where they can come to support you because the work you do is astonishing and as Reta says, you know, well you it does take a huge toll on you and you know that's people do understand that and people do support you but they need to be able to get behind you financially as well, so where can they go?
01:29:33
Speaker 18: Thank you so much so giggle crowdfund dot com.
01:29:36
Speaker 10: There's all information on there and where to support and we will let everybody know as soon as we know when we're getting a result, which is hopefully very soon.
01:29:45
Speaker 1: Fantastic, can't wait to chat to you then, Salgrover, thanks so much. After the break, while we of the week, a few and them I can think of in a tick.
01:30:00
Speaker 2: Yes, it's time for Wally of the Week and we've got some doozies we're going to argue. We've been arguing about whether the Pope should be in Wally of the Week or Celebrity of the Week. We might we might get him somewhere in between the two because we're gonna have a good discussion about that.
01:30:15
Speaker 8: The Pope is, you know, the bridge between Earth and Heaven. I think he's also the bridge between the week and celebrity celebrity.
01:30:23
Speaker 2: I want to kick off with the reverse Wally of the Week because this bloke is fantastic. Is the new Prime Minister of Hungary, Peter mag Ja Magyar, and he basically went on reta went on state TV to abolish state funded TV.
01:30:40
Speaker 1: Have a look chev that's now program.
01:30:52
Speaker 15: Vegas is Madani Orbiak Bart.
01:31:01
Speaker 1: My Hungarian's not quite up to scratch.
01:31:03
Speaker 2: But basically he was saying, even though you so it's like the ABC of Hungary, even though you've been mocking me and ridiculing me for three years, I'm here on your show, and now that I'm here on your show, I'm going to tell you I'm going to abolish.
01:31:14
Speaker 1: You on network.
01:31:15
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say it has been absolutely delicious to see the Australian left and left is everywhere celebrating this man's victory as if it was some triumph for so called progressive politics, not realizing that he's actually a conservative.
01:31:31
Speaker 5: He's very much senter right.
01:31:32
Speaker 6: So they've now just got a younger, better look open in office and long may Hungry prosper.
01:31:42
Speaker 8: Well he did, because you know, it's so funny. The other day, right after the election, the New York Times had this man, Peter maguire gives us a model for how to beat Trump, and then forty eight hours later, Magyar is out there. The great thing. By the way, his name means Peter Hungary. Really so that's absolutely perfect. But he's actually saying, oh, well, we are going to revoke all of the work visas for non Europeans so you can get out. We will never accede to any EU demands on immigration, So take a walk pounds head, and we're going to build a border fence higher, so have fun.
01:32:16
Speaker 2: And we're going to abolish state funded TV.
01:32:19
Speaker 6: What you need, younger, better looking Trump. Not a way to defeat Trump.
01:32:24
Speaker 1: I mean.
01:32:24
Speaker 6: And you don't have to be particularly well versed in Hungarian politics to know that this man was a conservative.
01:32:31
Speaker 5: He's always been a conservative, he didn't get elected.
01:32:34
Speaker 6: And then just five minutes later and say, oh wait, a sex psych following with the policy. So this is how desperate and just intellectually vacuous the left have become that they would take this victory as some sort of a sign that their brand of politics is prospering.
01:32:50
Speaker 2: And as he said, he called their state funded TV. He said, you are a propaganda machine and a factory of lies.
01:32:56
Speaker 1: He was very specific and.
01:33:00
Speaker 8: Wait, hang on, see talking about the Hungarian STATV or the ABC?
01:33:03
Speaker 1: Exactly? Yeah, ABC take note, Speaking of which, what a beautiful segue, James, And now can you bring us to the Wally of the week or a nominee. Right at the top there Barry Castle.
01:33:14
Speaker 8: Well, here's Barry Cassidy Impolster. Tony Barry having a chat about migrants, speaking of migrants, how lok are This was.
01:33:21
Speaker 17: Talking about immigration and the importance and how it nourishes the soul of the country and how it rejuvenates the soul.
01:33:31
Speaker 8: So this is again this is his whole So that was Tony Barry speaking there. But there's more clips of them going on and on about this here. But basically the idea is that, you know, immigrants are needing to rejuvenate the soul. And this is part of this whole language that we keep hearing from the left of this country and particularly the Anglo left in this country.
01:33:50
Speaker 5: It has to be Barry is supposed to be a liberal.
01:33:52
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know, right, but but that but that you're but that you're talking about about, Uh you know how the Australian stock that here isn't all that caught. No, you've got to bring in new people because otherwise, you know, you're nowhere.
01:34:05
Speaker 5: You're going to rejuvenate the soul. That's a new one. That's interesting.
01:34:10
Speaker 6: But yeah, they're they're sort of the smaller liberal voices that the liberals.
01:34:15
Speaker 5: Must stop listening to if they want to have any.
01:34:17
Speaker 6: Hope of ever being elected, state, federal, pretty much any level.
01:34:22
Speaker 2: So we've got the Senator Feruki grab we played earlier by mistake, but let's have a look at this, and this is Senator Ferruki basically refusing to answer the independent journalist Peter's questions about the NDAs fraud and why, more importantly, why Faruki voted no in parliament to emotion to investigate ndis Ford. How could you possibly vote against emotion to investigate fraud in the NDIS.
01:34:48
Speaker 1: But she does have a.
01:34:49
Speaker 19: Listen, hey, Marine Ferruki, why did you vote no to poll in Hansen's motion to investigate ndis froud?
01:34:57
Speaker 1: Why is she touching me? You can't touch Why. I just want to know, why are you so against it?
01:35:03
Speaker 8: I don't understand.
01:35:05
Speaker 1: And what a great question. And of course she's surrounded by the left.
01:35:08
Speaker 2: Always have to have all these people standing in the way, pushing people out of the way, the tolerant left.
01:35:13
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's so tolerant, so inclusive, so transparent. Surely you're a parliamentarian you can answer that with a simple line of why you voted the way you voted. There must be a reason why you voted in that manner. Tell the guy the reason. Why have him been manhandled by your little entourage?
01:35:33
Speaker 5: They're your sad little entourage.
01:35:34
Speaker 8: Because also it says that you know that we don't care about taxpayer funds. You know, we don't care. We don't care if what's going on in the NDIS. Now we know that the NDIS is shot through with fraud. We know that there's fraud all over the place in the thing. This operation is costing us almost a billion dollars every single week. And you know, if there are some quality leering centers out there, you know we need to know about it.
01:36:00
Speaker 2: Well, let's quickly votes on our wally of the week. We'll do our revert well doing him in celebrity. Oh, he's a segue. I'm going to vote for the reverse wally, the Peter Magnia. He deserves to get get a big tick there. But let's talk about the pope. Let's go through to celebrity. Let's talk about him as a celebrity.
01:36:18
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's been so funny this week watching this huge you know, for last actually almost ten days now fight between Pope Leo the fourteenth and President Donald Trump. And it's really interesting because just in the last few hours before we came to air, Pope Leo said, oh no, no, no, no, no, no. That stuff that I was talking about, you know, God not blessing those who pick up the sword, you know, being not being blessed by God. That wasn't a thing about Trump, that wasn't about Pete Hagsith and so. But I think that it's so interesting this guy, Pope Leo and Rita, I've got to say, you were right. He was a lefty from the start. I wanted to hope that he was going to be better than Pope Francis, but he wasn't. This guy is so naive, so silly, and I think that he's being used by an awful lot of leftist forces to use the Catholic Church. Now the left hates the Catholic Church, but they're happy to use him for various propaganda purposes and to try and separate Catholic voters from MAGA and all that. But this guy is so naive. I dug up this clip from a few months ago. This is him talking about interfaith relations between Christians and Muslims.
01:37:32
Speaker 23: Just have a look at this, and friendship between Muslims and Christians is possible. I think one of the great lessons that Lebanon can teach to the world is precisely showing a land where Islam Christianity are both present and I respect it, and that there is a possibility to live together.
01:37:54
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, where was this guy for the entire and Lebanese Civil War? I mean, there are an awful lot of We've got a lot of Maronite viewers, I think out there in various suburbs in Sydney talk to the Maronites about the way Islam when Islam came into rit Lebanon, a Christian country and became Hezbollah, by the way, which is why this Iran thing is so important. You know, this is a country that was absolutely torn apart by the movement of large Islamic forces into a majority Christian country. This guy is so naive, and yet there he was in Algeria earlier this week, you know, saying how wonderful the Mosques were in all of that. He's a midwit and I'm afraid, and you know he's not speaking infallibly, so I can criticize him as a Catholic, he's being a useful Ldia at the moment.
01:38:46
Speaker 6: He is a useful idiot, and he is also weak. The cowardice is incredible at a time where you have Christians been persecuted around the world, being slaughtered in certain countries, and you barely hear from the Vatic when he said nothing about the tens of thousands of Iranians being slaughtered by that regime for merely protesting for their freedom. And then he comes out and makes some very political pointed comments and then backtracks on them, doesn't even stick to them after it gets a little bit of heat and criticism and called out on his inconsistency. Oh no, no, it wasn't about Donald Trump after all, who was it about?
01:39:24
Speaker 2: Classic lefty? But also he's got a touch of the King Charles about him. He seems to be more if King Charles is supposed to be defending the Anglican faith, but seems far more interested in celebrating the Muslim faith. This pope seems to be heading down the same path. Speaking of King Charles, his son, his wayward son has been in Australia reata with Meg Meg Michael meg Marks whatever she's called.
01:39:48
Speaker 5: It in Melbourne and really no one cares. That've been in Sydney, no one cares.
01:39:53
Speaker 6: But she has spoken at length about how she's the most bullied person in the world.
01:40:00
Speaker 4: Last deca.
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Speaker 8: You know what's funny. Here we're going to show that last photo again. Here. This was the Opera House Forecourt which they had They had too a comedy with a huge crowd. There was tens of people. But go to nineteen eighty three, remember when Charles and Diana came to Austria and the Opera House for cards. That's what the crowd was like. So see the difference here.
01:40:26
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
01:40:27
Speaker 6: Apparently she left her three thousand per head retreat to go watch some rugby game or something. I don't know exactly what happened, but the people who were dumb enough to pay for this retreat or a bit upset.
01:40:39
Speaker 1: Absolutely and once in a great to see princess die.
01:40:41
Speaker 2: There.
01:40:41
Speaker 1: I've told you I danced with her. That's another thousand times. We've run out of time. Now that's it. We'll see you next Sunday. I don't forget Friday.
01:40:50
Speaker 2: Rundine US report world according to me and Retza's left, he's losing it.
01:40:54
Speaker 1: That's it. We'll see you next week on Sunday. Bye.