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Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I just drove in
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from Coachella weekend and I'm here to tell you all
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about it along with all the updates on all the
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Juicy Scoop and crime and everything. And then I have
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a great interview with Melissa Rivers, daughter of Joan Rivers,
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and we had a lot of fun. So here, let's
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just go through. So, yes, we stayed at some friends.
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Peter and I stayed at a friend's house. It was
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a fabulous weekend. We did attend a couple of the events,
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Coachella Saturday night, and went to this other party. I'm
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going to take you through the photos. Here was my
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first look. I wanted to show up cute. On Saturday.
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So we missed Friday altogether. Showed up on Saturday. It
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was absolutely perfect weather. Not too hot. I like it
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that way. I mean, some people probably thought it was
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too hot.
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For me, it wasn't.
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I wore a florally top off the shoulder. Then, miraculously,
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people happened to have some passes for us. So I'm like,
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you know what? I do want to experience Coachella and
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what everyone's been talking about. I had purchased a pair
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of Calvi boots. because everybody's wearing cowboy boots that I
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wore with this Navy dress. And I thought that'll be fun.
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It'll be easy to walk.
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I won't be in a heel.
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I don't want to be like wearing a wedge and
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falling over. Oh my God. Cowboy boots were not made
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for walking.
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They really weren't.
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These boots were not made for walking. They were too uncomfortable.
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I was dying. And I suggest people don't wear cowboy boots.
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Wear tennis shoes. Honestly, wear tennis shoes. Wear the most
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comfortable shoes possible. There is so much walking involved. Anyway,
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I saw Megan the Stallion, and we were at the
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VIP place, which was pretty nice and some cute food
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and stuff. Approached by a handful of Juicy Scoopers, not
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a lot. She was still miles away. You're just basically
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looking at the screen. So then I hobbled away. We
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went back to the house. I switched to a pair
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of tennis shoes. And I went to this other party
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called Zendara, which is like this other big place. And Sheen,
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that is.
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Is it in there?
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Okay.
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Oh, here I am golfing.
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Oh, then Peter and I went to Zendara, which is
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this beautiful property that the clothing store... People, S-H-E-I-N, Sheen.
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Sheen.
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It's kind of like a Fashion Nova type of situation. Anyway,
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they were doing the party. And I was like, wow,
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I can't believe that they threw this. But look, now
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I'm talking about it. I'd never even heard of them before.
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They were the people.
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That I talked about the other day that had the leopard.
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What body suit with only one leg out, full ass
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cheek out, like just coming up, just one leg, one
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ass out. That's the kind of clothes.
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Congrats.
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Um, so then the next day they said, you want
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to go to the Soho house that has like a
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pop-up shop. type of a thing, not pop-up, but it's
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like another big, beautiful field with like lakes and stuff.
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And you just go around and you get free drinks
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of Patron. You get free steak. There was like a
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lobster situation happening. So that was pretty fun. And I
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got pretty cute for that. And I wore a wedge,
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but I brought a pair of flip-flops and I switched
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into my flip-flops. Also, there was an earwand place where
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you just get a bag of And you could just
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take all these snacks for free. I felt like, I mean,
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it was pretty exciting. And then I got the Billie
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Eilish tester perfume that I brought back to Annie. That
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was her swag. Thank you. So here I am with
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some of the girls that were staying with us. They're
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all gorgeous girls, so I fit right in. And here
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we are fake laughing before we leave for Coachella, like, ha-ha.
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That's always easy to do. Then Peter got a cuter
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outfit the second day. He went and bought some stuff
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from the Madison Club, which is a place we were staying.
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And then I found some other great outfits to take
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photos of. Lots of just ripped fishnets, which is kind
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of nice because You know, the whole point of wearing
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nylons back in the day, you'd get a run in
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them and you'd have to throw them away. Well, not
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if you're going to Coachella. It's all about ripped nylons,
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ripped fishnets, big, huge, platformy, chunky things, lots of sparkles,
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lots of really weird things that made no sense. Like
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all of a sudden you just have like a sparkly
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bathing suit and then like leather– like this girl's wearing
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just like a leather fringe.
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Stuff, just hanging off.
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It's just like, literally, if you just took like, like
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an S and M thing and like strap that on
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you with like a bikini top and then a couple
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like sparkles and then like big giant shoes that that's
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what you'd be wearing.
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Uh, these girls now, these girls were pretty cute. Like again,
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this one girl has, um, like this was a pretty cute,
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these girls were pretty fashionable. And then, um, yeah, here
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we go. This is this was the girl I was
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staying with. She's adorable.
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And her name is Katie.
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OK, moving on. Oh, here I am looking so cute
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in the pool. I just I just had to take
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this photo because I just looked cute here.
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And but, you know, all my clothes were not.
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Oh, here's a fun one. These guys were fun. Then
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there was this one place that was kind of shady
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at the Soho House that I think was like extra VIP.
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And I kept walking by hoping that someone in the
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shady area would be a juicy scooper and say, hey,
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want to come in the shade? But they never did.
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So after an hour and a half, we went back
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to the mansion and just swam in the pool and
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had fun while the rest of the people went out
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to the last night at Coachella.
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And that's it.
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So, you know, I did. There were people that I
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guess you could stay in these tents. And I did.
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I looked inside one of the tents. It was kind
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of like.
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But I think I could see why people would do
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it if you're a dude. If you're a dude, you
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could definitely rent these tents and then you're right there
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because getting Ubers and parking and all that stuff is
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such a pain in the ass. So this way, you're
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right there at the festival if you're super into it.
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You just roll out of your tent and go party.
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But if you're a girl... and you have to use
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like a public shower or something, or try to get
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cute in this tent with your, you know, strap on
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dildo S and M outfits or whatever, that would be difficult.
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That would be difficult. But like four guys going, I
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would say, look into the, like the tents that are
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like made for you, like a glamping situation. But the
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best thing to do is to be like an influencer
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or something and, or just have a friend that just
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happens to have a past like me and go to
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these parties that are not actually Coachella parties, just like
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a beautiful thing where you walk around and eat food
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for free and take some photos. Okay. Moving on to
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the hot topics.
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Okay.
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The trial is still going on. Johnny Depp did like
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four days of testimony. I've been covering it. So, you know,
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from the past episodes where we're at and basically now
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her attorneys are questioning him. And they're bringing up his
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texts that he's written about her that are pretty awful.
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They're not great words. He uses the C-U-N-T word. He
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says gold digger. Then he makes this reference to like,
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I'd like to see her corpse rotting in the back
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of a Honda Civic or something. And he said, no,
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that's actually a line in a Monty Python movie or something.
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So he too, just like Blac Chyna and Tokyo Tony
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in the other big trial I'm going to cover against
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the Kardashians, when their horrible behavior comes up, they're like,
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I'm a fan of comedy.
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It's my humor.
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I like to write that way.
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I'm a comedian.
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So Johnny Depp also fancies himself a little bit of
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a comedian. But the general consensus of everything that I've
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read is that he is just gaining more and more
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love and fandom and Like I said before, whether he
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wins a dollar or nothing, I think he's definitely going
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to get his career back to a point. I don't
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know if the pirate movies will ever come back. He was,
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you know, he was in movies that made over $ 10 billion,
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but I definitely think people are going to want to
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see him, you know, in a series or on the
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big screen. So like, if anything, this is just going
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to help. And then it's like all these, all the
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people dressed up as kids, characters are in there. And
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then a bunch of women are like the entire court
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is just like women who are in love with him.
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If they show like the people in the bed and
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they're laughing so hard and everything he says, cause.
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It'd be like, um, can I, did I answer the
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question right?
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Did, could I answer the question? Um, and then the
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defense attorney would be like, did I read that right? Um, I,
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I guess you read that right. And the audience is like, Johnny,
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you're silly goose. Like they're just loving it. Um, she,
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everything that has come out about her, whether it's, you know,
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alleged things from her friends and people that are, um,
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sharing stuff about it. Um, She just does not seem
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like a great person. But then there's so much great
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stuff about Johnny. Like people, I waited on him once, this,
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that he's the nicest person. And apparently he was extremely
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generous to Amber's friends. Many of them stayed at his
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like apartments that he, he had this like big, um,
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penthouse apartment situation. That's where you constantly would see Um,
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Amber with Elon Musk in the surveillance in the elevator
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because they were allegedly having an affair while she was married. Um,
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they were like allegedly having threesomes, her and Elon and
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Kara that, um, Kara, what's her name? She's a beautiful
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model from Victoria's Secret. Anyway, we see them in this
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like penthouse thing that he owned. And I guess he
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owned several units and, and, Allegedly, he'd let many of
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her friends stay there. He'd always be super generous. The
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wedding was mostly all of her friends, just things like that.
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Like he just was very generous to her. And then
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they had this toxic relationship and all the recordings, she
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was always recording him. And that has, I guess, worked
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in her favor and then not worked in her favor.
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So that's where we're at. And so eventually I assume
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she will take the stand. So we've got still probably
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a couple of weeks left. But, you know, people were like, God,
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he's so like long winded, whatever. I guess the court, though,
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they've they set aside six weeks for this trial. So
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I guess they're ready to just milk it out and
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have some fun with it. So, yeah. Oh, here is
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a text message. he sent about burning and drowning his
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former partner were a joke based on the Monty Python sketch.
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Hilarious.
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Clearly, he had a lot of anger towards her, and
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he did say when he found out about the article
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and he was going to sue her for defamation in
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the article, of course, she said that she was a
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victim of domestic abuse. There's many text messages to friends
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and whatnot where he was like, oh, I'm going to
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bury her. She's going down. The world is going to
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know She's going to have global humiliation. So he very
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much is thrilled to be sitting on the stand telling
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his truth. He's been dying to do this since 2016
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or even prior, probably even probably before they got divorced.
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He probably wanted people to really know the torture he
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was feeling. So now he's just like, I want everyone
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to know what happened to me. And we definitely are. Um, Yeah,
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he said all these texts, none of it was intended
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to be real. Depp went on to say of the
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text that detailed drowning and killing her and having sex
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with her dead body, among other notions. And the language
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that's used, which I, yes, I'm ashamed that that has
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to be spread in the world like peanut butter. But obviously,
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drafted language, you know, I like to use the language,
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you know, I like to have fun with, you know,
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it's just the way I write, it's the way I text. Listen, people,
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I have said this. If you've been a juicy scooper,
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which I hope you have been for the last six years,
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pick up the fucking phone.
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You're in a fight with someone. You're mad at someone.
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You want to share some juicy scoop about someone, maybe
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a mutual friend. Don't text that to your friend. Like,
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you know, like let's say your friend is named Jenny
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and you're like, Jenny, I'm so sick of Susie. Susie's
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a fucking bitch. I can't believe she said all this.
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You put it all in the text. You're going back.
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You're going back and forth with Jenny. And then all
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of a sudden you do a screen grab and you
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accidentally send this shit to Susie. It's happened to me.
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The point is you want to talk some shit about somebody.
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You want to– or confront someone. You want to like
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have a fight with someone. Pick up the phone or
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meet in person because these text messages are– I mean–
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We didn't really have, you know, 20 years ago, people
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weren't texting. And I swear to God, I think it
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was harder to nail people on their bad behavior. The texting,
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the tweeting, the social media posts, everything is in writing.
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It's like biblical times.
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People are literally write everything down, but on, but worse
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because it's on a, you know, on a whatever, on
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your phone, a media. I'm like you guys, I'm a
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little hung.
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Okay.
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I'm a little hung over from the weekend. Definitely not,
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did not have enough sleep. The point is, just think
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about it. Because, I mean, I don't think people were saying,
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was it, oh, this girl this weekend. She goes, do
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you think it was, she goes, oh, the 90s. What
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was that like?
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You know, she's a little younger than I am.
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And she's like, do you think life was better then?
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You know, like in the 90s, was it more fun?
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Because you didn't have, like, social media and stuff.
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And I'm like, I don't know.
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I really did have a lot of fucking fun with
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my friends and I would have loved to have like
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video of it and funny, all the photos from like
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when I was partying in college and everything. I just
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really get to see it much more than what I
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have of memories. But then for these type of things,
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I'm glad that there's not, you know, text messages that
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someone can pull up from, you know, 20 years ago
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where I was like, talking shit about some sorority sister.
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Like I'm glad that's not there.
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So that's the point.
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Okay. Moving on.
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Um, what did he say about Marilyn Manson? That was bad.
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Okay. So that, I guess that wasn't that bad.
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Okay. Marilyn Manson is not someone that you want to
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like be photographed with or say that he's your good
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friend because of course there's, um, a lot of cases
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and it's a whole documentary about, um, the torment that
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he put several of his girlfriends through, sexual assault, all
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that kind of stuff. So he's not a delight in
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my opinion. But Johnny's like, yeah, did I do drugs
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with Marilyn Manson?
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Yeah.
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Who doesn't do drugs with Marilyn Manson? And I gave
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him a pill so he'd stop talking once.
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Ha ha.
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The girls in the audience. Johnny. So yeah, like he's
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a partier. Oh, and some people say they like to
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hear Annie's laugh. Some people think that you're laughing too
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hard to help get me going. Listen, it's a genuine laugh.
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I'm not putting a gun to her head and being like,
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laugh a little harder today. She is just laughing.
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Let her have some fun. Okay.
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Speaking of Elon Musk, of course, he's involved in the
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Johnny Depp trial. I talked about this when I did
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my Juicy Scoop stock market scoop. He has secured Twitter.
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That's right.
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He was offered it at $ 43 billion. They were saying
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they didn't want to sell it. Well, the board met.
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They had long meetings with him. They got him up
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to $ 44 billion. So great negotiation, Twitter board. And he's
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going to own it. So we'll see. He would like
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to have an option where he could write longer tweets.
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He'd like the algorithm not to be a secret. He'd
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like people to know why they see certain things, why
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they don't. Hopefully they'll have that edit button, which we've
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all been wanting that just like you do on Instagram
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where you can post your thing and then go back
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and like realize that you did a mistake, a spelling
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mistake and go correct it. Like the your and your thing,
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you know, you could actually go correct that on Twitter,
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which right now you can't. So we'll see how it changes.
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We'll see if there's really more freedom of speech, if
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there isn't so much censorship, But he's excited for it,
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so good for him. Let's see. Oh, Sherry Papini. As
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you know, she has pled guilty. She said, you got me.
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I made up this whole thing. I made up the
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fact that I was kidnapped by these two Mexican women
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and held captive for three weeks. Instead, I did hook
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up with this old boyfriend. Now, people were saying that
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I said that she didn't sleep with him. Okay. He
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said they never slept together. However, when they, when she
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miraculously arrived three weeks later, the police did find male
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DNA on her clothing or underwear. And that's where they
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linked it back to this guy. And that's how they
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found him. It was like a relative of his or whatever.
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And they found the DNA. And he then totally cooperated
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that he picked her up, that he let her stay
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in the room, that he went to the Hobby Lobby
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and got the branding thing and burned her arm, all
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of that, that she ate very little. But originally, he
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said they didn't bone. So who knows? But the husband,
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who's pretty cute, said, absolutely, I'm divorcing you. So he
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has filed for divorce and sole custody of the children.
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safe environment for his children. And, you know, obviously they
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hope that they'll side with the husband. And she will
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be sentenced in July. So... we don't know how much
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time she'll get. If any, I think she'll get, okay,
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this is another, I love doing predictions on the amount
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of time people get. I think she's going to get, um,
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at least six months, at least six months, definitely not
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more than two years. I'd be shocked if she got
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two years, but I think she'll get six months and
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probably have to pay some fines or return some money.
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So That's my prediction. The car is beautiful. Where did
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you end up going for it? This exclusive place that
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Dad has connections with. They have more cars for more
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dealerships than like anywhere else. You have to put me
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in touch. What's it called? It's Dunaidial.
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Where?
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Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
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I got it on Dundale Cars.
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Lift?
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Please.
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Are you going past Kimmage?
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Oh, Kimmage.
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No.
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Done deal, Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
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I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
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on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
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have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
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way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
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Life is one long lesson of chaos.
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I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
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filed against me. When your free will was about to
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be taken from you, what would you do if it
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was given back?
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Where did that need come from where you thought that
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you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
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He said, I have a work dad.
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I need a home dad.
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What happens next?
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When I came in, he started crying.
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Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
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those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
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happens next.
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I decided to risk it all.
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I realized how valuable every day was.
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You're worth the work.
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Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
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You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
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The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
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Only one question matters. What happens next?
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Also, Will Smith, he has gone to India. Paparazzi caught
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him there. He is going to just do yoga and meditate,
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and he's going to eat, pray, love it. Do you
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remember that book, Eat, Pray, Love? That's where this woman is.
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breaks up with her significant other, this boyfriend. I think
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it was her boyfriend. She might've been getting divorced. I
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don't know, but she broke up with him. Julie Robert
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played the part. She goes to Italy. She eats a
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bunch of pasta. Then she goes to India and is
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all into like yoga and praying. And then she goes,
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I forgot which is the last place she goes, but
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that's where she fell in love, met her second husband.
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And then in real life, because the book was about
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Elizabeth Gilbert, the writer was her own story. In real life,
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she then divorced that guy and fell in love with
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a woman and was a late-in-life lesbian. So if Will
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is in India, you know I really want him to
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also explore not only a great new yoga pose, but
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really explore who he is inside. And I just, I
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would not be surprised if he has his own eat, pray, love,
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and the love is like, I don't know, maybe just
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spends like a fun summer like at Fire Island or
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P-Town or whatever. Those are like fun places where guys
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can just really let loose and wear a little short
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trunks and get some sun. I think he'd have fun
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doing that.
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Oh, and then Jada said that they will be addressing
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this whole situation with the slap on the Red Table Talk.
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And the trailer for the red table talk is just
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all these interviews they've already done. Um, you know, with
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a lot of people that we've already heard from over
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the last six months, um, who, who is one of the, Oh, the, uh,
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inventing Anna, the girl who wrote the book about her, who,
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who she screwed over for the hotel built that girls
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on the show, um, A lot of people we've already
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heard from, but it's the three of them, the grandma, Jada,
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and Willow, and they're interviewing people. Sometimes they're interviewing them one-on-one.
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Sometimes Willow will just be interviewing someone. Nothing in the
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trailer shows them addressing this, but they said they would.
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where they just talk about it around the red table
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and then on with all these high-profile interviews that they've
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already recorded. I said that they would probably only talk
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about it for like the first part of an episode.
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Now I'm hoping that they do spend an entire episode
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on it, but I don't think we'll be so lucky.
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Cuba Gooding Jr. has pled guilty. You may recall many
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stories coming out that he groped people and groped women
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who did not want to be groped. This one particular woman,
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she was a waitress. She said he grabbed her. kissed
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her on the lips. She did not want this. She
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felt violated. And he has pled guilty to that offense
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and apologized. But he will avoid jail time. However, Gloria
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Allred is representing a couple of these women and they
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hope to go after him civilly. And so that's pretty interesting. Now,
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you know, we haven't seen him in a lot. He
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was an Oscar winner. Show me the money.
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Well, So I guess Gloria Allred is saying, show me
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the money. Heather, that's so funny.
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Anyway, Rihanna was out at this restaurant with ASAP Rocky,
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and it was the first time they were spotted together
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at this hotspot called Giorgio Baldi in Santa Monica.
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I have eaten there.
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Last time I was there, I was with Jill Zarin
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and Patty Stanger. Who else was there? Oh, Gretchen Rossi
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was there. And Rihanna was there. Not at her table,
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but she was also there. This has got to be
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Rihanna's favorite restaurant.
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And I missed it.
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They're like, didn't you see Rihanna? I'm like, motherfucker, no,
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I didn't. Anyway, so she's out in a pair of shorts,
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bikini top, full pregnant belly out. I mean, she really...
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loves people seeing her belly, and I think that's great.
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She's happy. She's pregnant. She wasn't happy the other day
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when he got arrested. He landed in LAX. They arrested
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him because they said this man said that he shot
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him or shot at him or shot him. I'm not sure.
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The guy lived to tell because he told the LAPD,
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and he said he is the one, A $ AP Ruff,
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he's the one who shot me November of 2021. He
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posted bail. He got out and then they got to
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go to dinner. But in the meantime, people that are
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close to Rihanna was saying she was hysterically crying. She
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missed her baby shower. She was so upset. Um, so
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he has been arrested, but now we have to see
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if the DA will actually go forward with trying to
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convict him. Is there enough evidence? Um, so I'm sure
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he has the best of best defense attorneys, um, I
510
00:27:33.819 --> 00:27:36.160
don't really know this case or how much evidence they have,
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but that is a bummer that this is all happening
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while they're expecting their first baby. But she looked cute.
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She had a nice meal. Okay, Madeline McCain. This is
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a classic story, classic in the sense that you've probably
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heard it. There's been documentaries. There's been numerous datelines. It
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happened 13 years ago. There was this couple. And they
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had a four-year-old, Madeline, and then they had twins that
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were like 18 months or two years old. And they
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were staying at this beautiful resort in Portugal. And they'd
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made friends with people that were also there. And every night,
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they would put their babies to sleep, leave their villa,
522
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and walk like a pretty decent... I mean, I've watched it.
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I was really shocked at the time, and I know
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a lot of you were Because as a mom, I
525
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would never be comfortable doing this. But apparently them as
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a couple agreed to do this because if anything, I
527
00:28:42.059 --> 00:28:44.539
was like, my God, if one person pushed for it
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and your child got kidnapped, I mean, the fact that
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they like stayed married and always had each other's back
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and never blamed each other is kind of amazing. So
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they would go down and drink wine and have these
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like fun dinners. And I get how much when your
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kids are that little, three kids under four, how much
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you want to sit and have an, you know, a
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wine dinner and not be disturbed and have that conversation.
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And I guess this is how they felt was the
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only way they could do it. I don't know why
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they didn't have a sitter or whatever, but they did
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it several nights in a row. And then they, but
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they would go and check on the kids like every
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45 minutes or whatever an hour, one of them would
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go and check on the kids. And when they went back,
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the little four-year-old was nowhere to be found, could not
544
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find her. There have been so many different theories of
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who did it. Of course, at one time, they were scrutinized.
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Did they have something to do it? Did she lose
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her temper? Is he hiding for her? Like what? It's
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very much like a Jean Benet thing, except they never
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ever found her alive or found her body or anything.
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They had to go forward with their lives because of
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the twins that they were raising. Now there is a
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man in Germany who, He's currently in custody for a
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drug offense, and they have strong reason to believe that
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he might be responsible for Madeline, that he is a
555
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suspect in this case. Because they found that his phone,
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all these years back, was within, like, a small radius,
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the time of her going, gone missing. He was there
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in the area. They have proof that he was there
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at that time. He was a, he, he was like
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a pedophile or something. He had convictions as far as that.
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He also raped a 72 year old woman. He's a
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pretty young guy. I saw a photo of him. He's
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doesn't look like he's like older than 40. And, but
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he is currently in custody doing time for another crime.
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And he's a German man. So, Who knows? But that's just,
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you know, something in this case where you just always wonder.
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And they always do like what she would look like
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today because there was a big feeling like maybe, you know,
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she's such a pretty looking child. Maybe someone did sell
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her to actually be raised by another family. Maybe she
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was sex trafficking. Maybe she, you know, doesn't even know
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that she has been kidnapped and she's just living with
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this other family, which, of course, would be the thing
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you hope for. But now they think this guy might
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have something to do with it, which is not a
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great sign of her being safe. Okay, now I want
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to get into a juicy crime I've talked about. There's
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00:31:27.809 --> 00:31:32.829
been podcasts. There's been specials about it, Dateline. This was
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00:31:33.049 --> 00:31:36.109
every kind of thing I love about a juicy crime
580
00:31:36.130 --> 00:31:39.119
because it involved a couple who was once in love,
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then hated each other, got divorced, and the husband.
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Dan Markle.
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was shot out of the blue coming back from the
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gym after he dropped off his kids. Nobody knew.
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Who are his enemies?
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What is happening? They investigated a little bit more. He
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and his ex-wife, Wendy, they shared a couple kids together.
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And they get divorced. It was not a great divorce.
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But the real problem was is that she wanted to
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relocate and move closer to her family. parents and her brother,
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who was a dentist. And he didn't want her to
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move because that would affect their 50-50 custody. So when
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you have 50-50 custody, if the other spouse does not
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agree with you moving, you can't. It's a big deal.
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It's a big problem. So her problem was now solved.
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The move near her parents, do whatever she wants. So
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they start investigating it and they find, they finally find
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the man who shot Dan. And he happens to be
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the ex-boyfriend of a woman who not only dated Wendy,
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the wife's brother, the dentist, but she also worked at
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the dental office. There was always suspicious suspicions that the
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that the family was involved in offing the son-in-law and brother-in-law.
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And now they have arrested the dentist, Wendy's brother. He
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has now been arrested. And his name's Charles Adelson. And
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they believe that, you know, he was involved in the
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hiring of this man to kill his brother-in-law, which there's
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a lot of evidence to it. But I think what
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many of it, I guess, was circumstantial until now. So
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it'll be really interesting to see what that trial looks like.
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I would love to see that on court TV.
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Okay.
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Another case, my God, Kris Jenner took the stand about
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the Black China case. You know, someone brought up the fact,
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why are we not seeing photos of them walking into
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the courtroom? Why are there no paparazzi photos of them
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walking into the courtroom? I wonder if they're going through
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a back door or Or the paparazzi is so close
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to them that they were like, just don't take photos.
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I just find that kind of interesting. Anyway, Chris had
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to take the stand, and she was very emotional. They
621
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asked her– basically, she told the story of their relationship.
622
00:34:23.659 --> 00:34:26.360
She said, I was happy for their relationship. I was
623
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:28.300
thrilled they were together, which is what I said. She
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00:34:28.539 --> 00:34:29.320
literally told me, too.
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She's like, you know– We got her a house. We
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got them a house.
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They were pregnant. They were going to have this show.
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Why would I do all that if I wanted to
629
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take it away? I didn't want to take it away.
630
00:34:40.130 --> 00:34:42.789
But the fighting was so bad. And she said both
631
00:34:42.829 --> 00:34:46.369
of them were toxic. They were both doing drugs. It
632
00:34:46.409 --> 00:34:51.110
was horrible. And she started to cry when she recalled
633
00:34:51.139 --> 00:34:54.739
the story of hearing that Blac Chyna put a gun
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00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:58.260
to Rob's head, which, of course, Blac Chyna says, jokingly.
635
00:34:59.070 --> 00:35:03.190
Monty Python joke. I'm a comedian. I don't know. And, um,
636
00:35:04.449 --> 00:35:07.809
and so that was one part. Then the texts that
637
00:35:07.849 --> 00:35:11.739
I talked about were ditch a bitch. She did admit
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that there was evidence of it. And she said, I
639
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:17.880
did say that, um, you know, in, in conversations with
640
00:35:17.900 --> 00:35:21.900
the producers, they had the main president of Brenna Murray, uh,
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do a zoom interview or a testimony via zoom, I think.
642
00:35:26.139 --> 00:35:30.469
And he did say that, um, He was excited for
643
00:35:30.489 --> 00:35:34.070
the show, but yeah, they're the production company. And so once,
644
00:35:35.010 --> 00:35:37.389
you know, he didn't want it. He also said that
645
00:35:37.409 --> 00:35:42.210
they went to Lifetime and we and I think MTV
646
00:35:42.269 --> 00:35:44.369
and all of them did not want it either. So
647
00:35:45.179 --> 00:35:49.139
nobody wanted this show where this couple was super toxic
648
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:53.460
and volatile. No network wanted to have that type of
649
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:57.559
a show. So it's not looking good for Blac Chyna.
650
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:01.619
because these executives are saying that, you know, it doesn't
651
00:36:01.659 --> 00:36:04.519
matter if Chris didn't want the show or not. We
652
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:09.679
couldn't do anything with this show. And I think, and
653
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:12.469
this has been brought up too, that like the jury,
654
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if they love the Kardashians, they're going to still love them.
655
00:36:16.829 --> 00:36:19.369
But if they hate the Kardashians, they're not going to
656
00:36:19.449 --> 00:36:25.429
have extra love for Blac Chyna, a woman who has
657
00:36:25.469 --> 00:36:29.210
a pretty sordid past. So like, you know, and then
658
00:36:29.269 --> 00:36:31.809
got famous off the backs of people that you don't
659
00:36:31.849 --> 00:36:36.079
appreciate are famous anyway. It's like, it's like third tier
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of a thing. And, and that she feels so entitled
661
00:36:39.579 --> 00:36:41.300
to have had this show go on for all these
662
00:36:41.340 --> 00:36:44.219
years and on, I missed out on a hundred million
663
00:36:44.260 --> 00:36:47.099
dollars because I would have been this fabulous spokesperson for
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all these things. Had I just had more seasons on E, no,
665
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you wouldn't have. So, Again, I really don't think she
666
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is going to walk away with any money. That is
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00:36:57.159 --> 00:36:59.780
my prediction in this one. Blac Chyna is going to
668
00:36:59.820 --> 00:37:04.059
lose here. Quick housewife news. The New Jersey trailer has
669
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:07.179
dropped for the reunion. It's a three-part reunion and it
670
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.920
looks really freaking juicy. I cannot wait.
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That season got really good.
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It's all about Teresa, her man Louie and Margaret and
673
00:37:17.969 --> 00:37:21.699
her fighting about it. Oh my God, that is good. However,
674
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.659
the Real Housewives OC reunion was only a two-parter, not
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00:37:25.699 --> 00:37:30.659
a shock. It was pretty boring. I have to say
676
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:35.030
it was pretty boring. But Noella, yes, admitted that she
677
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met Sweet James, the attorney, on a dating website called
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00:37:39.590 --> 00:37:45.389
Seeking Arrangements. But I wasn't with him for money. I
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00:37:46.329 --> 00:37:50.800
just was trying to arrange something. between beautiful women and
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men who have money that would like to spend money
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on beautiful women. So not a shock.
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Okay.
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I've talked a lot about her, especially on Patreon, the
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scoop I have on her.
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00:38:02.690 --> 00:38:05.050
So, um, who cares?
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Are we, are we surprised? You know?
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00:38:07.829 --> 00:38:11.719
Um, anyway, that was kind of juicy. Um, nothing else really.
688
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:16.650
Oh, Heather Dubrow says about, um, that she knew that
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00:38:16.730 --> 00:38:20.550
Shannon's husband, Oh, maybe that's coming up anyway. She's like,
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00:38:20.769 --> 00:38:23.090
I knew that your, that your husband was having an
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00:38:23.130 --> 00:38:26.530
affair and you knew, and then you came to the reunion.
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You came to the reunion on the first season and
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didn't reveal it. And then acted like it happened the
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second season, almost like reenacting this affair that you guys
695
00:38:38.579 --> 00:38:41.929
were aware that had happened. That's what she's trying to say.
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00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:45.539
and Shannon is not having it. It's really upsetting Shannon.
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00:38:45.579 --> 00:38:49.460
She's fighting her on that. Anyway, that's Real Housewives of OC,
698
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:52.559
and it's only a two-parter because there just wasn't that
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much in it. So there you guys go. And now
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for my interview with Melissa Rivers. Hello and welcome to
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Juicy Scoop. I'm here with a returned favorite, Melissa Rivers.
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You have a new book out.
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00:39:06.980 --> 00:39:08.260
Welcome. Thank you.
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Good.
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Always good to see you.
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I know. We have a lot of mutual friends and
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00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.559
lots of fun times when we see each other. And
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I'm excited about this book. You told me about it,
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that you were doing it. Lies My Mother Told Me.
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00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:25.539
Tall tales from a short woman. And she really was
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so tiny. I remember the few times I met her
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in person I didn't realize how incredibly petite she really
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was and.
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It wasn't just that she was like short she was
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like 5'2 she had those little tiny fine bones where
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I have like good peasant stock bones you know she
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00:39:45.030 --> 00:39:49.150
had those little refined little skinny bones.
718
00:39:49.429 --> 00:39:53.019
Um, I, I, I love your stories about her and I, I,
719
00:39:53.460 --> 00:39:56.239
I just always loved your relationship with her. And I
720
00:39:56.260 --> 00:39:58.539
remember the first time I really got to see it
721
00:39:58.639 --> 00:39:59.860
was in the documentary.
722
00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:01.599
Oh yes. The doc.
723
00:40:01.699 --> 00:40:05.079
And, and I remember you were just like, you guys
724
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:08.039
are doing something together and hair and makeup. And she
725
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:11.280
was just that, such that mother, not only from that
726
00:40:11.469 --> 00:40:15.949
era of time, but just, you know, like, this is
727
00:40:15.969 --> 00:40:17.780
the way she talked about, you know, about hair and
728
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:19.780
makeup and stuff to someone that's just like, mom, I'm
729
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:24.340
doing it though. Like, could you not like, yeah, stop. Right. Stop.
730
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:27.039
But see, and that's something interesting because we both have boys.
731
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:27.599
Yeah.
732
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.719
So we don't have to deal with that. We're just like,
733
00:40:30.739 --> 00:40:31.840
did you put on deodorant?
734
00:40:32.139 --> 00:40:32.380
Right.
735
00:40:32.860 --> 00:40:35.679
And, and it's just, it is an interesting thing of like,
736
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:38.400
and the dynamic of how, and how really close you
737
00:40:38.420 --> 00:40:41.139
guys were to and work together and all that stuff.
738
00:40:41.460 --> 00:40:45.219
And that is different because with my sister and her daughter,
739
00:40:45.849 --> 00:40:48.659
It's just like every time I want to hang out
740
00:40:48.699 --> 00:40:51.780
with my sister Shannon and Haley's around, it's like she
741
00:40:51.860 --> 00:40:54.579
wants to be part of the fun. And it's like, oh,
742
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:57.219
my God, like I was here first. Like we were
743
00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:58.119
friends first.
744
00:40:58.480 --> 00:40:59.300
And it happens with my.
745
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:00.760
Girlfriends, too, with teenage daughters.
746
00:41:01.139 --> 00:41:02.239
They text all the time.
747
00:41:02.489 --> 00:41:04.650
They talk all the time. And it's like with our sons,
748
00:41:04.690 --> 00:41:09.610
it's just like literally they'll only initiate a conversation if
749
00:41:09.690 --> 00:41:13.860
I'm out. To bring home food. There's no other like, hey,
750
00:41:13.909 --> 00:41:16.809
I saw this funny thing or mom, could we do it?
751
00:41:16.820 --> 00:41:20.699
It's just like, can you bring back Chick-fil-A? It's a
752
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:21.559
big text.
753
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:21.840
Yeah.
754
00:41:21.940 --> 00:41:22.599
Yeah.
755
00:41:22.780 --> 00:41:27.409
I have started communicating very often with Cooper. Yeah. By
756
00:41:27.489 --> 00:41:31.210
sending him stuff from Instagram and then he'll put up
757
00:41:31.250 --> 00:41:33.570
like an emoji, you know, next to it.
758
00:41:33.590 --> 00:41:33.829
Yeah.
759
00:41:34.070 --> 00:41:38.510
And that's like proof of life. You know what I mean?
760
00:41:39.130 --> 00:41:41.150
Because he's a junior in college.
761
00:41:41.369 --> 00:41:44.809
Right. The proof of life thing is so funny. Yes.
762
00:41:45.250 --> 00:41:47.909
I saw this other thing where this woman wrote this
763
00:41:47.949 --> 00:41:50.530
like just beautiful– she goes, I just wanted to– I
764
00:41:50.590 --> 00:41:52.840
wrote this to my son and it was just this
765
00:41:53.019 --> 00:41:55.239
long thing of like honestly how proud she is. He's
766
00:41:55.260 --> 00:41:56.000
such a great kid.
767
00:41:56.440 --> 00:42:00.900
You get that? K. K. Not even okay. Just K
768
00:42:01.980 --> 00:42:03.099
or T-Y. Yeah.
769
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:03.619
Yeah.
770
00:42:04.110 --> 00:42:06.050
You know, it's like you can actually spell out the words,
771
00:42:06.090 --> 00:42:06.530
thank you.
772
00:42:06.659 --> 00:42:06.929
Yeah.
773
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:08.719
Or love you too.
774
00:42:09.539 --> 00:42:09.719
But.
775
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:11.099
K is the worst.
776
00:42:12.059 --> 00:42:14.460
And I always remember, and you had a story about this,
777
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:18.610
so I jumped to this chapter. I do remember your wedding.
778
00:42:19.190 --> 00:42:24.170
I remember you and Joan being on Oprah to discuss
779
00:42:24.230 --> 00:42:27.139
how the wedding has taken a life of its own. And...
780
00:42:28.659 --> 00:42:30.500
And let's talk a little bit about that part of
781
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:30.980
the book.
782
00:42:31.139 --> 00:42:31.400
Yes.
783
00:42:31.619 --> 00:42:31.840
Yes.
784
00:42:32.260 --> 00:42:37.500
Well, the book obviously is very hyper realistic. People keep
785
00:42:37.579 --> 00:42:40.599
saying to me, did she really say those things?
786
00:42:40.820 --> 00:42:41.019
Yeah.
787
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:44.489
I'm like, no. And it was like, well, what's the,
788
00:42:44.750 --> 00:42:46.409
what's the truth in there? I'm like, well, I can
789
00:42:46.489 --> 00:42:48.889
really break it down. We had Thanksgiving.
790
00:42:49.769 --> 00:42:49.869
Yeah.
791
00:42:49.889 --> 00:42:50.170
That's it.
792
00:42:50.510 --> 00:42:51.969
Yeah. She went to theater.
793
00:42:52.650 --> 00:42:52.989
That's it.
794
00:42:53.570 --> 00:42:55.210
You know, I had a wedding.
795
00:42:55.409 --> 00:42:56.550
That's where that stopped.
796
00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:59.440
Right. Um, So, I mean, what is there even to
797
00:42:59.539 --> 00:43:04.099
talk about about the wedding? God, it was so long ago.
798
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:07.070
Well, I just love that she really was someone who
799
00:43:07.110 --> 00:43:11.230
just liked the finer things in life, didn't apologize for it,
800
00:43:11.269 --> 00:43:13.510
and worked really hard to attain it. Absolutely. And then
801
00:43:13.570 --> 00:43:16.710
was really generous with the people around her. And I
802
00:43:16.750 --> 00:43:20.550
think that's something that, you know, isn't like typical of
803
00:43:21.050 --> 00:43:23.699
someone in the field of stand-up. Like, and I always
804
00:43:23.739 --> 00:43:26.039
just kind of loved it because as someone that's a stand-up,
805
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:28.530
I love glamour and I love hair and makeup. And
806
00:43:28.610 --> 00:43:31.639
she was always that, she was a female comedian that
807
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:35.280
dressed up and cared about her looks and didn't apologize
808
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:35.599
for it.
809
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:37.460
She was one of the first ones, you know, up
810
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:42.960
until when she broke through, you were, comedians were expected,
811
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:44.199
women were supposed to look funny.
812
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:44.840
Yeah.
813
00:43:45.059 --> 00:43:46.659
And be funny. And the thing is, and I don't
814
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:48.599
know if you ever had the chance to meet Phyllis Diller.
815
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:50.800
I never met her, but of course, yeah.
816
00:43:51.059 --> 00:43:55.760
One of the most beautiful women you will ever meet
817
00:43:56.219 --> 00:44:00.699
had to actively make herself look crazy. Wow.
818
00:44:01.460 --> 00:44:03.039
And she had like five kids, right?
819
00:44:03.059 --> 00:44:04.960
I don't even know, but she had the most amazing
820
00:44:04.980 --> 00:44:08.059
house in Brentwood on the most amazing piece of property.
821
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:10.780
I mean, and she lived this very elegant life. Again,
822
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.000
you would never think Phyllis Diller with the crazy hats,
823
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:15.900
but my mom was the first one who was kind
824
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.000
of like, it's still okay to be pretty. It's still
825
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:21.579
okay to come out in my little black dress and
826
00:44:21.619 --> 00:44:23.739
my pearls and then glam it up with a boa.
827
00:44:24.230 --> 00:44:29.030
And that really changed. That really changed the landscape for
828
00:44:29.070 --> 00:44:31.030
women comedians because, like I said, you were supposed to
829
00:44:31.130 --> 00:44:31.769
look funny.
830
00:44:32.269 --> 00:44:34.949
Right. And they were good friends, right?
831
00:44:35.289 --> 00:44:36.050
Friendly, yes.
832
00:44:36.070 --> 00:44:38.889
Yeah, they were friendly, yes. And because one thing about
833
00:44:39.150 --> 00:44:41.989
Joan that was always, you know, so great is that
834
00:44:42.489 --> 00:44:45.469
so many female comedians, I only have a little bit
835
00:44:45.489 --> 00:44:49.949
of exchange with her, and I was so looking forward
836
00:44:50.030 --> 00:44:53.090
to We had a couple events coming up that she
837
00:44:53.110 --> 00:44:55.300
was going to be at, and unfortunately she passed before.
838
00:44:55.340 --> 00:44:57.920
And I was like, to the person, like, sit me
839
00:44:57.980 --> 00:45:01.239
next to Joan. I had it all set up, you know.
840
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:05.929
But that she was so supportive of other comedians, like,
841
00:45:06.030 --> 00:45:09.690
you know, Kathy Griffin and Margaret Cho, and so many
842
00:45:09.809 --> 00:45:12.530
people spoke so highly. And I think sometimes, you know,
843
00:45:12.550 --> 00:45:16.489
that's also really admirable because in the documentary she was
844
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:19.360
being really honest. It was before her. It was kind
845
00:45:19.380 --> 00:45:21.340
of her big– before the big comeback, before you guys
846
00:45:21.380 --> 00:45:24.679
did Fashion Police. And she was like– looked at the calendar.
847
00:45:24.699 --> 00:45:26.800
She had the old school calendar. And she's like these
848
00:45:26.820 --> 00:45:31.570
dates used to be full and now they're all Kathy Griffin.
849
00:45:31.630 --> 00:45:33.710
She said it. She's like it's so– my calendar is
850
00:45:33.750 --> 00:45:34.929
so white I'm snow blind.
851
00:45:34.949 --> 00:45:35.489
Yeah.
852
00:45:36.929 --> 00:45:39.320
And that's really hard. And as for you not having
853
00:45:39.340 --> 00:45:43.360
the opportunity to get to spend time with her, lucky you,
854
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:44.480
you got me.
855
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:45.000
Yeah.
856
00:45:45.099 --> 00:45:49.119
Yeah. sorry, you got the discount for, you got the
857
00:45:49.139 --> 00:45:50.300
remainders version.
858
00:45:51.019 --> 00:45:53.139
You know what I mean? And that must be, that
859
00:45:53.179 --> 00:45:55.639
must have been kind of hard too, that like, you know,
860
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:58.150
because you worked with your mom and you produced your mom,
861
00:45:58.969 --> 00:46:01.929
but do you ever feel like, I don't know, that
862
00:46:02.010 --> 00:46:03.969
it must have been like in a shadow?
863
00:46:03.989 --> 00:46:07.050
Of course. And she always used to talk about the
864
00:46:07.090 --> 00:46:09.469
fact that one of her, one of the things that
865
00:46:09.590 --> 00:46:13.150
bothered her most in sort of her career was the
866
00:46:13.170 --> 00:46:14.349
fact that I was not given credit.
867
00:46:14.369 --> 00:46:14.989
Mm-hmm.
868
00:46:15.539 --> 00:46:18.909
That she got all the credit, and especially on the
869
00:46:19.010 --> 00:46:21.670
last couple shows, I was the one doing the heavy lifting.
870
00:46:22.110 --> 00:46:22.349
Yeah.
871
00:46:22.730 --> 00:46:28.409
And that was very frustrating for her. And we talked
872
00:46:28.429 --> 00:46:30.510
about it openly. She's like, you know, it's a blessing
873
00:46:30.530 --> 00:46:32.829
and a curse. And the curse is you will not
874
00:46:32.849 --> 00:46:36.349
get credit, ever, for anything you accomplish. And I'm trying
875
00:46:36.389 --> 00:46:39.110
to change that, obviously. Yeah. And I've worked really hard.
876
00:46:39.130 --> 00:46:41.469
And I kept Fashion Police on the air for another
877
00:46:41.530 --> 00:46:44.889
two years after she... passed and this is my fourth
878
00:46:45.070 --> 00:46:50.010
book and how many thousands of hours of television have
879
00:46:50.090 --> 00:46:53.489
I hosted and or produced and at one point you
880
00:46:53.550 --> 00:46:56.110
do want to just go like oh come on people
881
00:46:56.739 --> 00:46:59.840
but again how lucky was I that I got to
882
00:46:59.900 --> 00:47:02.579
sit at the feet of the best and shut up and.
883
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:08.250
Learn and you know with the climate that has changed,
884
00:47:08.309 --> 00:47:10.789
not only in the comedy world, the cancel.
885
00:47:10.289 --> 00:47:11.969
Culture, easy for you to say, right.
886
00:47:12.750 --> 00:47:18.659
How we talk about everything, you know, people oftentimes bring up, well, what,
887
00:47:18.940 --> 00:47:22.119
how would Jones jokes and how would she, would she
888
00:47:22.139 --> 00:47:25.880
have adjusted herself or would she not have? And, or
889
00:47:25.940 --> 00:47:28.789
then sometimes I'm like, well, maybe she, maybe she did,
890
00:47:29.550 --> 00:47:32.409
you know, go at the perfect time. Because like, sometimes
891
00:47:32.449 --> 00:47:35.010
I think about my parents, I'm like, I'm glad they
892
00:47:35.070 --> 00:47:37.289
haven't been around these last few years. They would not,
893
00:47:37.369 --> 00:47:39.989
they would be like, what the hell and COVID and
894
00:47:40.030 --> 00:47:41.630
everything that's been going on. And they'd be like, what
895
00:47:41.650 --> 00:47:44.150
the hell is this? You know? And so what are
896
00:47:44.170 --> 00:47:48.000
your thoughts about like where, like where fashion police would
897
00:47:48.059 --> 00:47:51.119
have gone, you know, how would she have been able
898
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:53.579
to be as honest? She wouldn't have been able to
899
00:47:53.619 --> 00:47:55.579
be honest in her comedy was honest.
900
00:47:56.039 --> 00:47:59.199
And, you know, I've obviously thought about that a lot
901
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:02.289
and it, my thoughts have kind of changed as we've
902
00:48:02.329 --> 00:48:05.909
been going along. First of all, She was a lightning
903
00:48:05.929 --> 00:48:09.809
rod to start with. So, you know, I think in
904
00:48:09.849 --> 00:48:13.670
a lot of ways she wouldn't necessarily have changed. I
905
00:48:13.710 --> 00:48:17.000
think maybe some of the wording would have changed, but
906
00:48:17.019 --> 00:48:18.739
it would have been done very tongue in cheek with
907
00:48:18.780 --> 00:48:21.760
a big eye roll. And at this point, I think
908
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.320
that a huge part of her act would be about
909
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:26.260
cancel culture.
910
00:48:26.590 --> 00:48:26.889
Yes.
911
00:48:27.010 --> 00:48:28.409
And sort of do it that way. Like, I'm not
912
00:48:28.449 --> 00:48:29.570
allowed to say this.
913
00:48:29.590 --> 00:48:30.210
Right.
914
00:48:30.269 --> 00:48:32.869
I'm not allowed to say that and then still say it.
915
00:48:33.300 --> 00:48:35.090
Right, and make fun of the fact that I am
916
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:37.469
an older person and I'm just trying to adjust. I
917
00:48:37.550 --> 00:48:41.789
don't cancel me, but this is weird to me because this.
918
00:48:41.650 --> 00:48:43.869
Is my background. Heads up for the lightning bolt that's
919
00:48:43.909 --> 00:48:44.690
about to strike you.
920
00:48:44.630 --> 00:48:46.889
For using the word older. Right.
921
00:48:47.010 --> 00:48:51.090
And notice I back away. I'm like, oh, shit. Here
922
00:48:51.210 --> 00:48:54.920
it comes.
923
00:48:55.099 --> 00:48:56.059
Would she just hate that?
924
00:48:56.579 --> 00:49:00.940
But, you know, the thing is, she was so relevant.
925
00:49:01.219 --> 00:49:01.480
Yeah.
926
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:02.179
And.
927
00:49:02.940 --> 00:49:05.380
She had friends who were older, friends who were younger.
928
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:09.730
And her whole thing was, you don't want to get stuck.
929
00:49:10.309 --> 00:49:12.789
You don't want to get stuck in the past. You
930
00:49:12.829 --> 00:49:15.510
want to be talking about what's right in front of you.
931
00:49:16.150 --> 00:49:18.070
And people say, how would it have been during COVID?
932
00:49:18.250 --> 00:49:19.409
And I'm like, well, first of all, she would have
933
00:49:19.429 --> 00:49:19.969
moved in with me.
934
00:49:20.650 --> 00:49:20.849
Yeah.
935
00:49:20.969 --> 00:49:22.949
And one of us would have ended up in jail.
936
00:49:23.170 --> 00:49:23.929
Yeah.
937
00:49:23.949 --> 00:49:26.269
For sure. I don't know which one. It could have
938
00:49:26.289 --> 00:49:27.309
been Cooper. I don't know.
939
00:49:27.730 --> 00:49:30.010
Had you never, I know like then you had your
940
00:49:30.110 --> 00:49:33.869
We Show, your reality show, which was scripted, not scripted.
941
00:49:33.889 --> 00:49:34.429
Lightly.
942
00:49:34.550 --> 00:49:36.880
It was a reality show, but it was kind of fun.
943
00:49:37.530 --> 00:49:39.789
It was almost making– Kind of like a Chrisley Knows Best.
944
00:49:39.849 --> 00:49:43.269
Kind of like scenarios set up and stuff but still improv.
945
00:49:43.289 --> 00:49:50.070
But also it was, again, almost a satirical version of
946
00:49:50.110 --> 00:49:50.989
a reality show.
947
00:49:51.230 --> 00:49:51.429
Right.
948
00:49:51.469 --> 00:49:54.510
Where things were so ridiculous that you knew they weren't
949
00:49:54.570 --> 00:49:57.309
real but just let us run with it and play.
950
00:49:57.730 --> 00:50:00.840
Right. Yes. You know? And so in that one there
951
00:50:00.860 --> 00:50:03.880
were times– I think you guys were saying that you
952
00:50:03.900 --> 00:50:07.010
lived together. But did you ever live together post, like, college?
953
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:12.190
Well, she stayed with me. And it's so funny because
954
00:50:12.210 --> 00:50:13.889
people were always like, I was at your mom's house.
955
00:50:13.929 --> 00:50:17.309
I'm like, no, you were actually at my house. You know,
956
00:50:17.349 --> 00:50:20.510
the house that your mom– I'm like, no, no. But
957
00:50:20.590 --> 00:50:22.409
that's okay. No one needs to– I don't need to
958
00:50:22.789 --> 00:50:28.670
belabor that. But she would be with me and Cooper
959
00:50:28.769 --> 00:50:34.590
probably– Two to four days a week when we were
960
00:50:34.630 --> 00:50:37.489
doing Fashion Police and the reality shows.
961
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:37.989
Yeah.
962
00:50:38.489 --> 00:50:40.480
So, you know, she had her own room. She kept
963
00:50:40.500 --> 00:50:43.480
stuff there. And that's a lot, you know. So did
964
00:50:43.500 --> 00:50:46.539
we live together? Yeah, you know. And one of the
965
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:48.400
things I always think about was how great that was
966
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:48.840
for Cooper.
967
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:50.139
Yes, definitely.
968
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.260
How great. And I remember one time she was like,
969
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:56.019
she comes to me and she's like, he's being rude
970
00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:59.570
and not paying attention to me. And I'm like, because
971
00:50:59.590 --> 00:51:03.559
you're here so much. he doesn't feel like it's special.
972
00:51:04.099 --> 00:51:04.380
Yeah.
973
00:51:04.460 --> 00:51:06.400
And I'm like, think about it that way. She's like,
974
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:08.679
that's amazing.
975
00:51:08.780 --> 00:51:09.659
I'm like, yeah.
976
00:51:10.030 --> 00:51:11.730
He just thinks of you as part of like the
977
00:51:11.769 --> 00:51:16.969
furniture as that's great. That you coming is not an event.
978
00:51:17.369 --> 00:51:18.809
Right. And then he feels so comfortable.
979
00:51:18.869 --> 00:51:19.050
Yeah.
980
00:51:19.070 --> 00:51:21.690
Then he's just like, grandma. And I'm like, she's like,
981
00:51:21.750 --> 00:51:23.070
oh my God, I never thought of it that way.
982
00:51:23.130 --> 00:51:25.630
And I'm like, yeah, you are here that much.
983
00:51:26.130 --> 00:51:30.239
Yeah. And, um, Okay, let me get to some juicy
984
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:34.119
questions from our people here. Did Joan ever do a
985
00:51:34.139 --> 00:51:37.070
joke about anybody or anything that she did feel bad
986
00:51:37.190 --> 00:51:41.650
about or regretted later? Yes. A couple of them.
987
00:51:42.750 --> 00:51:45.409
One time she used to have a joke about Willie
988
00:51:45.449 --> 00:51:49.679
Nelson saying that he wore soap on a rope as jewelry.
989
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:53.460
And it got back to her that it upset his daughter.
990
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:57.000
It was out the next day. Oh, yeah.
991
00:51:57.360 --> 00:51:57.539
Gone.
992
00:51:59.090 --> 00:52:02.079
At one point she did on Fashion Police say no
993
00:52:02.099 --> 00:52:04.760
more Britney Spears jokes. And it was after like the
994
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:08.119
head shaving. She's like, this girl's in real trouble. This
995
00:52:08.179 --> 00:52:13.929
isn't funny anymore. This isn't something you can. It's too much.
996
00:52:14.510 --> 00:52:18.150
So she's the one who said no more. You know,
997
00:52:18.309 --> 00:52:22.289
and so there's she is sensitive to when real people.
998
00:52:23.539 --> 00:52:26.280
people were going through crisis or she found out she
999
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:31.610
had really upset someone's daughter or son or spouse, the
1000
00:52:31.630 --> 00:52:33.889
celebrities were fair game. But when she heard that she
1001
00:52:33.929 --> 00:52:36.650
upset someone's daughter, done.
1002
00:52:36.739 --> 00:52:39.800
Speaking of the celebrities, I remember, you know, there was
1003
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:42.920
that era where she was kind of around when she
1004
00:52:42.940 --> 00:52:44.659
had her only night show a couple of years prior,
1005
00:52:44.699 --> 00:52:47.440
which was always doing Johnny Carson. And there were just
1006
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:51.389
all the jokes about Elizabeth Taylor and And that Elizabeth Taylor,
1007
00:52:51.510 --> 00:52:55.489
you know, had gained weight. And it's interesting because I
1008
00:52:55.510 --> 00:52:58.159
was watching something and the way people would talk about
1009
00:52:58.389 --> 00:53:01.739
Delta Burke and things like that. And you're looking back
1010
00:53:01.780 --> 00:53:05.619
at them now and you're like, they weren't even, you know,
1011
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:07.460
that like, you know, but at the time.
1012
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:11.679
Liz Taylor was big. She was big. Delta would now
1013
00:53:11.739 --> 00:53:12.599
fall into curvy.
1014
00:53:12.900 --> 00:53:13.519
Right, right.
1015
00:53:13.659 --> 00:53:15.920
But you go back and look at the pictures of
1016
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:18.920
Elizabeth Taylor. She was, she was, she wore a lot of.
1017
00:53:20.269 --> 00:53:22.250
Yes. And so she'd gained a lot of weight. And
1018
00:53:23.570 --> 00:53:25.610
I read something where people were, you know, where someone
1019
00:53:25.630 --> 00:53:30.340
was kind of analyzing why Joan did so many jokes
1020
00:53:30.610 --> 00:53:34.559
about that. And the idea behind this person who was
1021
00:53:34.619 --> 00:53:39.960
analyzing was like, you know, Joan worked so hard to,
1022
00:53:40.340 --> 00:53:42.780
you know, make herself look as beautiful and stay thin
1023
00:53:42.820 --> 00:53:45.409
and everything. And here the most beautiful woman in the
1024
00:53:45.469 --> 00:53:50.940
world had, quote, unquote, lack of a old term that
1025
00:53:50.980 --> 00:53:53.019
my mom used to say to kind of let herself go.
1026
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:56.239
And it was like, how could you do that when
1027
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:59.619
you had the most perfect face? Like, how could you
1028
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:03.519
let yourself? So in that, that's kind of what maybe
1029
00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:07.219
drove her somewhat, you know, obsession of talking about that
1030
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:07.619
so much.
1031
00:54:07.659 --> 00:54:08.980
I mean, do you remember or.
1032
00:54:09.030 --> 00:54:09.710
Have an opinion on that?
1033
00:54:09.909 --> 00:54:13.449
Also, because, you know, and I'm sure you know this,
1034
00:54:13.650 --> 00:54:17.710
you can't, People don't understand that to be able to
1035
00:54:17.869 --> 00:54:23.199
make a joke about somebody, everyone that you're performing for,
1036
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:26.139
so sometimes the world, like my mom, you have to
1037
00:54:26.179 --> 00:54:30.980
be so well known that everybody has such working knowledge
1038
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:35.420
of you that you get why the joke is funny. Right.
1039
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:38.659
And my mother had one friend who was a, still is,
1040
00:54:38.780 --> 00:54:44.309
a major celeb. And at one point my mom took
1041
00:54:44.349 --> 00:54:47.010
her out of her act. And she called. She's like, oh,
1042
00:54:47.050 --> 00:54:48.820
my God, I'm out of your act. What does this mean?
1043
00:54:48.860 --> 00:54:53.579
Where's my career? Like, she got how comedy works like that.
1044
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:58.239
You can't make a joke about someone that nobody knows
1045
00:54:58.340 --> 00:55:01.519
or has a really deep knowledge of because it's stupid
1046
00:55:01.539 --> 00:55:02.139
and not funny.
1047
00:55:02.460 --> 00:55:02.719
Right.
1048
00:55:02.940 --> 00:55:08.949
So with Elizabeth Taylor, the jokes worked because she transcended celebrity.
1049
00:55:09.429 --> 00:55:11.210
She was one of the most famous women in the world.
1050
00:55:11.230 --> 00:55:11.889
Right.
1051
00:55:13.110 --> 00:55:16.949
Again, is that mindset of she let herself go. And
1052
00:55:16.989 --> 00:55:20.809
when you, and, and they also had a mutual, very
1053
00:55:20.849 --> 00:55:23.510
good mutual friend. And he, my mom said one time
1054
00:55:23.650 --> 00:55:26.760
to our friend, can, does this upset her? And the
1055
00:55:26.820 --> 00:55:30.260
response was no, because wait, it was such a great line.
1056
00:55:30.860 --> 00:55:35.159
It doesn't, it doesn't hurt me where I live. I
1057
00:55:35.179 --> 00:55:40.679
don't get that. Meaning she's so different and removed from
1058
00:55:40.699 --> 00:55:42.599
the looks.
1059
00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:43.940
Oh, okay.
1060
00:55:44.460 --> 00:55:46.969
That it didn't... She shrugged it off.
1061
00:55:47.409 --> 00:55:47.670
Oh, okay.
1062
00:55:47.690 --> 00:55:48.070
That's good.
1063
00:55:48.110 --> 00:55:50.829
It doesn't hurt me where I live. Oh, interesting.
1064
00:55:50.949 --> 00:55:51.250
Okay, cool.
1065
00:55:51.329 --> 00:55:54.489
Which is such a profound statement.
1066
00:55:54.750 --> 00:55:55.630
Yeah.
1067
00:55:55.670 --> 00:55:58.099
And then later in life, they became friendly. Really?
1068
00:55:58.320 --> 00:55:58.639
Yeah.
1069
00:55:58.860 --> 00:56:02.260
Yeah. I mean, I did... Again, she had great.
1070
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:02.480
But also.
1071
00:56:02.500 --> 00:56:03.969
But also then she had great humor and.
1072
00:56:05.469 --> 00:56:07.429
Kept her relevant it kept.
1073
00:56:07.170 --> 00:56:08.710
I was going to say it kept her relevant because
1074
00:56:08.769 --> 00:56:12.090
even at that point like I wasn't going to movies
1075
00:56:12.130 --> 00:56:14.170
with Elizabeth Taylor in it I wouldn't have known who
1076
00:56:14.210 --> 00:56:17.550
Elizabeth Taylor was just like sometimes now when I make
1077
00:56:17.590 --> 00:56:21.449
references to people talking to you know Annie who works
1078
00:56:21.469 --> 00:56:23.369
for me or something I have to be like do
1079
00:56:23.429 --> 00:56:25.690
you know who that is because I realized back when
1080
00:56:25.730 --> 00:56:27.860
my mom would throw names around I'd be like I
1081
00:56:27.889 --> 00:56:30.159
don't know who you're talking about you know like 20-30
1082
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:35.119
years difference of two people the references might not work
1083
00:56:36.289 --> 00:56:39.610
And then you realize who is transcending generations and who
1084
00:56:39.650 --> 00:56:42.469
is staying relevant. And part of that is part of
1085
00:56:42.570 --> 00:56:44.980
it that, you know, like you're still, you know, kind
1086
00:56:45.099 --> 00:56:47.219
of making fun of this person or doing an impression
1087
00:56:47.260 --> 00:56:48.139
of them or whatever.
1088
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:50.980
But also this is a woman who when women were
1089
00:56:51.019 --> 00:56:55.469
not making, you know, hundreds and hundreds upon millions of
1090
00:56:55.530 --> 00:57:00.070
dollars with their businesses, White Diamonds is still one of
1091
00:57:00.090 --> 00:57:02.050
the biggest perfume sellers.
1092
00:57:02.750 --> 00:57:06.070
She was like the first celebrity to really get into perfumes.
1093
00:57:06.150 --> 00:57:06.510
Yep.
1094
00:57:06.809 --> 00:57:11.179
And I mean, crazy successful. And to this day, it
1095
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:11.840
makes money.
1096
00:57:12.380 --> 00:57:15.579
You know, I remember somebody saying... Remember the commercials?
1097
00:57:16.019 --> 00:57:18.460
Here, these have always brought me luck.
1098
00:57:18.579 --> 00:57:18.860
Yes.
1099
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:19.400
You know?
1100
00:57:19.500 --> 00:57:22.460
And then there were like different ones. Interesting that you
1101
00:57:22.500 --> 00:57:25.619
bring up, like that we're bringing up Elizabeth Taylor because,
1102
00:57:25.780 --> 00:57:27.710
you know, the other most talked about person in the
1103
00:57:27.730 --> 00:57:32.250
world is Kim Kardashian. And I remember years ago, A
1104
00:57:32.269 --> 00:57:35.800
friend and I were talking about her or whatever, and
1105
00:57:36.099 --> 00:57:39.820
my friend goes, I think she thinks of herself as
1106
00:57:40.869 --> 00:57:42.030
like an Elizabeth Taylor.
1107
00:57:42.090 --> 00:57:42.590
I go, what do you mean?
1108
00:57:42.610 --> 00:57:44.550
She goes, I think she's going to be married like
1109
00:57:44.590 --> 00:57:46.719
eight times in her life. I think it's going to be,
1110
00:57:46.739 --> 00:57:49.440
you know, like the type of thing. And I'm like, oh,
1111
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:53.239
my God, when you look at the like following the
1112
00:57:53.300 --> 00:57:56.389
alignment of fame with the perfumes and the and all
1113
00:57:56.429 --> 00:57:58.409
of this and all these different types of people and
1114
00:57:58.429 --> 00:58:01.989
the way if you're ever dipping a little, you perk.
1115
00:58:01.789 --> 00:58:03.250
Back up with a new romance.
1116
00:58:03.449 --> 00:58:06.309
It's it's really what Elizabeth's life was.
1117
00:58:06.389 --> 00:58:07.289
I'm going to do you one better.
1118
00:58:07.309 --> 00:58:07.530
Yeah.
1119
00:58:07.750 --> 00:58:09.380
Jennifer Lopez. Yeah.
1120
00:58:09.570 --> 00:58:09.760
Well.
1121
00:58:10.289 --> 00:58:10.489
Totally.
1122
00:58:10.510 --> 00:58:12.349
Remember, she had the perfume. She had the makeup. She
1123
00:58:12.369 --> 00:58:13.130
still has all that stuff.
1124
00:58:13.150 --> 00:58:13.349
Yeah.
1125
00:58:13.570 --> 00:58:17.150
And engaged now six times and twice to the same guy.
1126
00:58:17.170 --> 00:58:19.170
Yes, that's really Elizabeth Taylor.
1127
00:58:19.190 --> 00:58:21.929
It's really Elizabeth Taylor. I mean, Kim, chop, chop.
1128
00:58:22.250 --> 00:58:22.530
Yeah.
1129
00:58:22.570 --> 00:58:24.190
Catch back up. Yeah.
1130
00:58:25.090 --> 00:58:25.449
Wow.
1131
00:58:25.789 --> 00:58:26.010
Yeah.
1132
00:58:26.190 --> 00:58:31.179
And the men gift Jennifer Lopez major jewelry.
1133
00:58:32.139 --> 00:58:32.460
Right.
1134
00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:34.139
Major jewelry. Yeah.
1135
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:34.239
Yeah.
1136
00:58:34.570 --> 00:58:36.780
That's just like, I want to know, does she give
1137
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:37.900
the ring back all six times?
1138
00:58:37.940 --> 00:58:40.820
You know, I was talking about somebody, people believe that no,
1139
00:58:40.900 --> 00:58:43.119
she has kept them all. But I don't know if
1140
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:44.239
there's proof of that.
1141
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:48.340
As my mother would say, he wants it back, swallow
1142
00:58:48.389 --> 00:58:52.670
the ring. If he really wants it, no matter what,
1143
00:58:53.010 --> 00:58:59.800
no man will dig through shit for a diamond. Yeah.
1144
00:59:01.739 --> 00:59:03.039
Swallow the stone.
1145
00:59:03.059 --> 00:59:06.280
I remember one of your mom's jokes on Carson was like,
1146
00:59:06.610 --> 00:59:08.989
she was like, you know, all these men say, oh,
1147
00:59:09.010 --> 00:59:11.519
they want a smart woman. Oh, bullshit. No man's ever.
1148
00:59:12.860 --> 00:59:14.940
Put his hand up, a hand of a woman's dress
1149
00:59:14.980 --> 00:59:19.539
looking for a library card. Yeah. And my other fears, like,
1150
00:59:19.579 --> 00:59:22.360
what's your favorite? I always say, and it's a horrible joke.
1151
00:59:23.260 --> 00:59:26.119
And it, please, it's so not PC. So everybody just
1152
00:59:26.940 --> 00:59:30.050
fucking relax. That dress is so ugly it looks like
1153
00:59:30.110 --> 00:59:35.929
it would be good at math. And I know it's
1154
00:59:35.989 --> 00:59:37.090
not PC.
1155
00:59:37.219 --> 00:59:37.360
Right.
1156
00:59:37.739 --> 00:59:40.159
I'm putting out the full disclaimer.
1157
00:59:40.179 --> 00:59:40.250
Yes.
1158
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:44.139
It is simply a quote of something that was said
1159
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:45.139
in the past.
1160
00:59:45.500 --> 00:59:45.619
Right.
1161
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:46.940
So don't hold me responsible for it.
1162
00:59:47.500 --> 00:59:47.800
Right.
1163
00:59:48.099 --> 00:59:49.079
But that's a great joke.
1164
00:59:49.420 --> 00:59:49.679
Yeah.
1165
00:59:50.179 --> 00:59:51.920
I agree. That was a fashion police joke.
1166
00:59:53.659 --> 00:59:55.989
Any funny memories or stories that she can share? Oh,
1167
00:59:56.030 --> 00:59:59.570
we are doing that. Sorry. Oh, this was juicy. Okay,
1168
01:00:00.590 --> 01:00:05.159
Joan alluded to having a complex, competitive maybe, relationship with
1169
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:07.639
her sister Barbara. Is there any truth in that?
1170
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:08.480
Oh, absolutely.
1171
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:09.320
What is that about?
1172
01:00:09.340 --> 01:00:11.679
I don't know about Barbara. So she had an older
1173
01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:17.030
sister named Barbara who growing up was, and I only
1174
01:00:17.050 --> 01:00:20.449
put it in the past tense because she's dead, staggeringly
1175
01:00:20.489 --> 01:00:30.059
beautiful and brilliant. Brilliant. And... Their whole life, my mother
1176
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:31.420
was overshadowed by Barbara.
1177
01:00:32.219 --> 01:00:33.139
Was it just the two of them?
1178
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:35.809
Just the two of them. And in school, it was
1179
01:00:35.849 --> 01:00:40.110
always like, oh, you're Barbara's sister. You're Barbara's sister. You're
1180
01:00:40.150 --> 01:00:43.769
not as smart as Barbara. You're not as beautiful as Barbara.
1181
01:00:44.449 --> 01:00:47.690
Boys would come to take out my aunt and ignore
1182
01:00:47.710 --> 01:00:52.519
my mother. So much of, I think, her drive came
1183
01:00:52.739 --> 01:00:58.840
from that sibling rivalry. And my mother always talked about
1184
01:00:59.619 --> 01:01:02.119
her whole life. It was always, this is my daughter
1185
01:01:02.349 --> 01:01:04.690
with her mother. This is my, and not meaning to
1186
01:01:04.730 --> 01:01:08.570
be me. This is my daughter, Barbara, and my other daughter, Joan.
1187
01:01:09.809 --> 01:01:13.829
And my mom distinctly remembered the first time her mother said,
1188
01:01:14.389 --> 01:01:17.409
this is my daughter, Joan, and my other daughter, Barbara.
1189
01:01:18.469 --> 01:01:24.929
And it was once she was successful? Once she was successful. Oh, I,
1190
01:01:26.690 --> 01:01:29.809
I mean, it's super complex and deep. It's super complex
1191
01:01:29.849 --> 01:01:30.349
and weird.
1192
01:01:30.389 --> 01:01:31.429
And you kind of wonder.
1193
01:01:31.449 --> 01:01:33.130
It is hard.
1194
01:01:33.150 --> 01:01:36.099
I mean, you have one son and I have two.
1195
01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:41.659
And I do sometimes say Drake and my other son Brandon.
1196
01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:44.139
Or I'll say my other son is Brandon just because
1197
01:01:44.179 --> 01:01:46.630
I feel like maybe I've talked more about Drake in
1198
01:01:46.670 --> 01:01:47.570
my acting stuff.
1199
01:01:48.289 --> 01:01:50.110
And it's a more unique name. Yeah.
1200
01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:56.099
And I definitely don't think– I talk so openly with
1201
01:01:56.159 --> 01:01:58.380
my sons to never be like that and they don't
1202
01:01:58.420 --> 01:02:01.400
have like a competitive thing. But definitely back in those
1203
01:02:01.500 --> 01:02:04.889
days where teachers would know that you were the sibling
1204
01:02:05.010 --> 01:02:06.610
and if you had a smart sibling or if you
1205
01:02:06.650 --> 01:02:09.929
had an older brother that got in trouble, maybe they'd
1206
01:02:09.949 --> 01:02:12.409
be like, oh, we better watch this one or whatever
1207
01:02:12.449 --> 01:02:14.489
the situation. And so that is so.
1208
01:02:14.630 --> 01:02:19.090
Now– Who knows? Maybe it was because my aunt was
1209
01:02:19.170 --> 01:02:19.909
older than my mom.
1210
01:02:20.250 --> 01:02:20.429
Right.
1211
01:02:20.449 --> 01:02:22.449
I mean, I don't know. I don't know what my grandmother's,
1212
01:02:22.869 --> 01:02:26.039
if there was any deep meaning to it. But in
1213
01:02:26.099 --> 01:02:29.420
my mom's head, it was because Barbara was smarter. Barbara
1214
01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:34.130
was prettier. Barbara was more popular. Barbara, you know, graduated
1215
01:02:34.170 --> 01:02:37.449
from college at 19 and went to Columbia Law School
1216
01:02:37.510 --> 01:02:39.670
and was one of five women and then decided she
1217
01:02:39.730 --> 01:02:41.750
actually wanted to go to medical school and got right
1218
01:02:41.769 --> 01:02:43.590
into medical school, you know what I mean? And then
1219
01:02:43.610 --> 01:02:44.590
got married, you know what I mean?
1220
01:02:44.610 --> 01:02:47.090
And did she and Barbara get along? Like, were they
1221
01:02:47.230 --> 01:02:49.969
friendly or did they not really mesh that well because
1222
01:02:49.989 --> 01:02:51.610
they had such different drives?
1223
01:02:52.349 --> 01:02:54.869
Humor brought the whole family together as mad as they
1224
01:02:54.889 --> 01:02:57.230
would get at each other. And it was very typical
1225
01:02:57.389 --> 01:03:01.670
sibling rivalry. Because they were, what, three and a half
1226
01:03:01.690 --> 01:03:06.469
years apart. But no matter what, when they were arguing,
1227
01:03:06.510 --> 01:03:07.329
someone would start to laugh.
1228
01:03:08.050 --> 01:03:11.820
So would Barbara brag about Joan and go to Joan's
1229
01:03:11.860 --> 01:03:13.179
shows throughout her whole career?
1230
01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:17.420
I don't know if she would brag. They weren't really
1231
01:03:17.460 --> 01:03:18.139
raised that way.
1232
01:03:18.539 --> 01:03:19.380
Okay.
1233
01:03:19.539 --> 01:03:21.500
But yeah, whenever my mom was playing on the East Coast,
1234
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:24.059
my aunt would come. They'd have dinner. They'd have lunch
1235
01:03:24.099 --> 01:03:26.699
before the show. Or when we were in Atlantic City,
1236
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:29.909
she would bring my cousins. And all the kids would
1237
01:03:29.949 --> 01:03:31.590
hang out. And she would, like, love it and love
1238
01:03:31.610 --> 01:03:34.989
the act and all of that. As much as you can. See,
1239
01:03:35.030 --> 01:03:36.809
I'm not a sibling, so I don't get all the
1240
01:03:36.969 --> 01:03:43.949
nuances of sibling rivalry, especially with two girls, where I
1241
01:03:43.989 --> 01:03:45.989
just remember her always being like, oh, my God, that
1242
01:03:46.010 --> 01:03:47.969
was hilarious. I'm not sure you should have mentioned so-and-so,
1243
01:03:48.010 --> 01:03:49.059
but that was hilarious.
1244
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:49.980
Oh.
1245
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:51.139
But I don't think I know.
1246
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:52.579
I know, but still, I kind of get it. Yeah,
1247
01:03:52.659 --> 01:03:54.440
it's a sister thing.
1248
01:03:54.559 --> 01:03:54.880
Yeah.
1249
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:57.340
Unless you have a sister, I can't get my head
1250
01:03:57.380 --> 01:03:57.780
around it.
1251
01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:02.070
So I have a sister, but we have just– like
1252
01:04:02.210 --> 01:04:04.030
it's probably the best relationship of my entire life. Right.
1253
01:04:04.050 --> 01:04:06.170
Like we just really, really get along well. But so
1254
01:04:06.349 --> 01:04:08.989
my sister is number four and I'm number five. And
1255
01:04:09.090 --> 01:04:11.090
she is the only one that doesn't have brown eyes
1256
01:04:11.150 --> 01:04:12.369
in the family. Okay?
1257
01:04:12.769 --> 01:04:16.369
And they're kind of these blue-green eyes. And so my.
1258
01:04:16.309 --> 01:04:19.750
Grandmother had– both my grandmothers had these charm bracelets with
1259
01:04:19.929 --> 01:04:22.869
all their grandkids and all of ours were like these little,
1260
01:04:23.170 --> 01:04:25.369
like a little girl's face or whatever. Like you just
1261
01:04:25.409 --> 01:04:27.530
bought them. It's like a very popular thing. And then
1262
01:04:27.570 --> 01:04:30.619
the one that was my sister was this like little,
1263
01:04:30.659 --> 01:04:32.599
like baby skeletor head.
1264
01:04:33.030 --> 01:04:35.460
With two like blue jewels in it.
1265
01:04:35.809 --> 01:04:38.230
And it was like blue eyes, a reason for happiness.
1266
01:04:38.389 --> 01:04:39.449
Yeah.
1267
01:04:39.570 --> 01:04:40.090
But look at you.
1268
01:04:40.110 --> 01:04:43.960
By the way, that you remember that it irritated you.
1269
01:04:43.980 --> 01:04:46.219
And so then, and then whenever we were two and
1270
01:04:46.260 --> 01:04:47.420
a half years apart, so my mom would buy a
1271
01:04:47.460 --> 01:04:49.219
lot of outfits for us the same, you know.
1272
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:51.840
Lucky you. And it would always be, she would always.
1273
01:04:51.659 --> 01:04:57.000
Get the blue version. And then I'd get whatever color, pink, purple,
1274
01:04:57.019 --> 01:04:59.789
whatever it was. And so one day I said it
1275
01:04:59.889 --> 01:05:02.789
like in my young standup way before being a standup,
1276
01:05:02.849 --> 01:05:04.880
I'd be like, I just got whatever other color. I've never,
1277
01:05:04.889 --> 01:05:08.880
you've never bought me a blue piece of clothing in
1278
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:10.039
my entire life.
1279
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:11.179
And oh.
1280
01:05:12.860 --> 01:05:16.139
My God, I think my mom felt so badly after that.
1281
01:05:16.780 --> 01:05:21.829
Every Angora sweater, everything was blue, different shades of blues.
1282
01:05:21.909 --> 01:05:24.050
And I was like, oh my God, mom, you know, like,
1283
01:05:24.730 --> 01:05:26.409
and so that's where I'm like, it's just so funny
1284
01:05:26.429 --> 01:05:29.139
when you look back and like, what was the intention of,
1285
01:05:29.849 --> 01:05:31.969
you know, the parent's intention was never there, but what
1286
01:05:31.989 --> 01:05:33.989
you felt is what you felt. Right. And that family
1287
01:05:34.030 --> 01:05:37.909
dynamic and birth order and growing up with a sibling
1288
01:05:37.949 --> 01:05:41.050
versus not or having a certain amount of years between
1289
01:05:41.090 --> 01:05:45.210
you can really shape the child's personality. There's benefits and
1290
01:05:45.250 --> 01:05:48.329
drawbacks to both, you know. Yeah. And so it's just,
1291
01:05:48.449 --> 01:05:51.159
that's interesting. I just did not really realize that. Okay.
1292
01:05:51.380 --> 01:05:53.880
Well, I'm glad the therapy today has been good for you.
1293
01:05:53.980 --> 01:05:54.219
Yes.
1294
01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:57.619
You'll get my bill. Oh my God, I've learned something
1295
01:05:57.659 --> 01:06:00.760
about my dynamic with my sister and my feelings for
1296
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:01.880
the color blue.
1297
01:06:01.900 --> 01:06:06.940
I have anger towards blue. Joan dumped the love of
1298
01:06:07.019 --> 01:06:10.469
her life, Oren Lehman, for having lunches with other ladies
1299
01:06:10.630 --> 01:06:13.730
and never spoke to him again. What was your thoughts
1300
01:06:13.789 --> 01:06:14.550
on that situation?
1301
01:06:14.570 --> 01:06:17.469
That's a very, very sanitized version.
1302
01:06:17.489 --> 01:06:18.409
Okay.
1303
01:06:18.909 --> 01:06:22.860
Of what happened. Okay. And it wasn't just having lunch.
1304
01:06:23.539 --> 01:06:26.960
So she had a boyfriend. Was this the last man
1305
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:30.119
she was serious with? Yes. And they were together for.
1306
01:06:30.380 --> 01:06:30.739
Quite a while.
1307
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:31.139
Yeah.
1308
01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:33.119
And how did she find out that he was seeing
1309
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:33.579
other women?
1310
01:06:34.179 --> 01:06:38.710
So this is such a great story. They used the
1311
01:06:38.750 --> 01:06:44.130
same optometrist. And my mother went in to pick up
1312
01:06:44.150 --> 01:06:46.329
a new pair of glasses. It was on Madison Avenue.
1313
01:06:47.050 --> 01:06:48.389
And she was running errands. So she was like, oh,
1314
01:06:48.389 --> 01:06:49.809
I'm just going to stop and pick up my glasses.
1315
01:06:49.909 --> 01:06:51.260
And while she was there, she walked in and.
1316
01:06:54.869 --> 01:06:58.269
Or she went to pick up Oren's glasses, and they said, oh,
1317
01:06:58.349 --> 01:07:02.210
here are your glasses. And she's like, I didn't order
1318
01:07:02.250 --> 01:07:08.530
new glasses. And she was like, excuse me? They're like, no, no, Mr.
1319
01:07:08.590 --> 01:07:12.179
Lehman gave us credit card for these. They're on his account.
1320
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:17.179
And Mom's like, I didn't order new glasses. So he's
1321
01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:21.840
buying glasses for another lady. He was full on. And
1322
01:07:21.860 --> 01:07:25.710
then she started to. go through credit card statements and da, da, da, da, da, da.
1323
01:07:25.730 --> 01:07:27.429
So he had a full nother girlfriend. Yes.
1324
01:07:28.309 --> 01:07:30.829
Oh, did she ever find out who she was? Oh yeah.
1325
01:07:31.489 --> 01:07:32.510
And what was she?
1326
01:07:32.690 --> 01:07:40.429
She was a famous ex old school movie star. So
1327
01:07:40.510 --> 01:07:42.289
was she like the same age as, no, she was
1328
01:07:42.329 --> 01:07:44.320
older than my mom. She was closer to Oren's age.
1329
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:48.179
But imagine that my mom's like, I didn't order new glasses.
1330
01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:52.449
Oh my God. And so how did she, did she
1331
01:07:52.489 --> 01:07:53.389
confront him right away?
1332
01:07:53.409 --> 01:07:56.469
I think once she looked at the credit card bills,
1333
01:07:57.250 --> 01:08:00.389
I'm surprised. I mean, I just was getting it sort
1334
01:08:00.449 --> 01:08:03.579
of in, as she was telling me, but then also
1335
01:08:03.619 --> 01:08:07.440
her assistant telling me what was really going on. You know,
1336
01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:09.239
and she did not, let's just say she didn't handle
1337
01:08:09.300 --> 01:08:11.300
it well, nor delicately.
1338
01:08:12.659 --> 01:08:15.909
So she was, was she more angry than like heartbroken?
1339
01:08:15.929 --> 01:08:23.369
Oh, angry, angry. And heartbroken, but really angry. Really angry.
1340
01:08:23.390 --> 01:08:24.010
Yeah.
1341
01:08:24.710 --> 01:08:27.850
You know? So, and I, for the life of me,
1342
01:08:27.869 --> 01:08:29.810
I can't, but that was the big thing was they
1343
01:08:29.989 --> 01:08:31.109
accidentally gave her.
1344
01:08:31.569 --> 01:08:35.300
Was Oren, was Oren in the documentary? I feel like
1345
01:08:35.619 --> 01:08:36.220
I remember her.
1346
01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:38.520
I think so. I don't remember. I haven't watched the
1347
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:40.100
documentary in a long time.
1348
01:08:40.460 --> 01:08:42.779
Yeah. But I don't remember. Yeah.
1349
01:08:42.819 --> 01:08:44.939
To be 100% honest, I know that's terrible. I feel like.
1350
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:47.270
But I think also that's someone I've kind of just like,
1351
01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:48.979
pushed out of my mind.
1352
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:50.180
Is he still alive?
1353
01:08:50.380 --> 01:08:51.819
No, he has passed away. But I think I just,
1354
01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:54.550
it's one of those things where like, he's so hurt
1355
01:08:54.609 --> 01:08:58.029
her that I, like, as far as I was concerned,
1356
01:08:58.050 --> 01:08:58.770
he didn't exist.
1357
01:08:58.989 --> 01:08:59.250
Right.
1358
01:08:59.649 --> 01:08:59.810
Yeah.
1359
01:08:59.829 --> 01:08:59.909
Yeah.
1360
01:09:00.220 --> 01:09:02.079
But yeah, she started going through credit card bills.
1361
01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:03.640
Oopsie.
1362
01:09:04.220 --> 01:09:05.779
But men are stupid.
1363
01:09:06.100 --> 01:09:06.300
I know.
1364
01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:08.130
And it just happens to everybody. You're like, yeah, men are.
1365
01:09:08.380 --> 01:09:13.109
And it surpasses like, you know, it has nothing to
1366
01:09:13.170 --> 01:09:16.170
do with you as a partner, as a wife, as
1367
01:09:16.689 --> 01:09:19.619
your beauty as your wit, as your ability in the sack.
1368
01:09:19.699 --> 01:09:21.380
It has nothing to do with any of that. It's
1369
01:09:21.539 --> 01:09:24.760
all about their ego and having the attention of someone else.
1370
01:09:25.630 --> 01:09:28.909
To make yourself feel better. Yeah. They're so basic.
1371
01:09:29.369 --> 01:09:33.939
I know. Um, Oh, what did you do with your
1372
01:09:33.979 --> 01:09:37.340
mom's organized collection of jokes? She remembers that she had
1373
01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:40.380
them in the old-fashioned library card file.
1374
01:09:40.539 --> 01:09:48.010
It is in storage in a perfectly hermetically temperature-controlled, moisture-controlled
1375
01:09:48.050 --> 01:09:52.109
at one of those places that does all that for
1376
01:09:52.189 --> 01:09:54.229
archival material until I know what I'm going to do
1377
01:09:54.289 --> 01:09:55.289
with it eventually.
1378
01:09:55.310 --> 01:09:56.189
Oh, that's cool.
1379
01:09:56.390 --> 01:09:58.630
Yeah. Everyone's like, don't you want it in your house?
1380
01:09:58.649 --> 01:09:59.869
I'm like, that would be creepy.
1381
01:09:59.890 --> 01:10:00.770
Are the furs there?
1382
01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:06.720
Most of the furs have been distributed and given away. Okay.
1383
01:10:07.439 --> 01:10:09.340
I do remember her joke about wearing furs.
1384
01:10:09.380 --> 01:10:10.699
Yes.
1385
01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:13.069
She's giving it a better life than it ever had.
1386
01:10:13.130 --> 01:10:15.189
It's going places. It's going to the theater.
1387
01:10:15.210 --> 01:10:18.210
It's going to the nicest restaurants. Exactly.
1388
01:10:18.710 --> 01:10:20.170
What, it was going to have that good of a life?
1389
01:10:20.470 --> 01:10:21.479
Look where I'm taking it.
1390
01:10:23.750 --> 01:10:28.039
Oh, there's a clip that is really great that she–
1391
01:10:28.739 --> 01:10:34.579
maybe it's from the documentary– Where, so they're about, she's
1392
01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:36.819
about to go on stage and somebody is reading this
1393
01:10:36.899 --> 01:10:39.829
long list like, if you're easily offended, if you're this
1394
01:10:39.909 --> 01:10:41.390
or this or that, and then she just takes the
1395
01:10:41.409 --> 01:10:44.270
mic and she's like, shut up and take a joke
1396
01:10:44.289 --> 01:10:48.479
or take a whatever. And I actually really was like, ooh, that,
1397
01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:52.220
I might want to steal that because it's like, literally
1398
01:10:52.260 --> 01:10:54.359
if you went down your hour and a half of
1399
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:57.600
set material, you're like, okay, yeah, these are the subjects
1400
01:10:57.680 --> 01:11:01.760
I'm going to do. So if you're easily offended by this, that, like,
1401
01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:04.060
that is really, was very funny.
1402
01:11:03.779 --> 01:11:06.380
And great before its time. Yeah, there's a great thing where,
1403
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:08.590
do you remember, I mean, this is years ago, Some
1404
01:11:09.130 --> 01:11:12.649
promoter or someone who– charity that had hired Snoop Dogg
1405
01:11:12.689 --> 01:11:15.960
to perform and then they were really offended by that.
1406
01:11:16.100 --> 01:11:18.399
And he came out and said, you hire Snoop Dogg,
1407
01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:19.359
you get Snoop Dogg.
1408
01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:20.180
Yeah.
1409
01:11:20.439 --> 01:11:22.479
It's the same thing. What do you think you're going
1410
01:11:22.500 --> 01:11:22.760
to get?
1411
01:11:23.060 --> 01:11:26.619
I have such an issue when I've been hired for
1412
01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:29.880
things or whatever. Now I'm at the place where like
1413
01:11:31.119 --> 01:11:33.359
it doesn't matter. I don't need the money for the
1414
01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:36.470
gig to stress me out. But I have a thing
1415
01:11:36.529 --> 01:11:42.229
because I do– consider myself like a classy person who's like.
1416
01:11:42.270 --> 01:11:44.270
You're edgy. Your act is edgy.
1417
01:11:44.310 --> 01:11:47.390
But I still see myself as like, I went to
1418
01:11:47.430 --> 01:11:50.350
Catholic school and I respect people who are religious and
1419
01:11:50.369 --> 01:11:53.250
like that. So then when I'd find myself in a
1420
01:11:53.270 --> 01:11:55.590
position where someone would see a little bit of my
1421
01:11:55.649 --> 01:11:57.979
act and think, oh, she's this mom that talks about
1422
01:11:58.020 --> 01:12:00.439
her boys and her husband. But then my act had
1423
01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:04.520
become way more edgy, which I really enjoyed more. But
1424
01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:07.659
I do tell young comics, don't start edgy. Edgy is like...
1425
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:11.079
start a little cleaner just because it's harder to do
1426
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:13.439
and you'll go further if you don't rely on the
1427
01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:14.960
dirt right off the top.
1428
01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:17.260
But that worked for you because you had stuff to
1429
01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:18.199
talk about. Right.
1430
01:12:18.340 --> 01:12:18.619
Yeah.
1431
01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:19.100
Right.
1432
01:12:19.199 --> 01:12:21.020
Right. The other people are dirty right away because it's
1433
01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:22.979
just like, oh, I fucked this guy. Right.
1434
01:12:23.060 --> 01:12:25.520
Because that's what they're doing. But that's what they're doing.
1435
01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:30.350
That's their reality. Your reality, like my mother's, was much
1436
01:12:30.390 --> 01:12:32.470
more traditional. Yeah.
1437
01:12:32.829 --> 01:12:34.630
But it's just so freeing just to talk about whatever
1438
01:12:34.649 --> 01:12:36.340
you want to talk about. Now I'm just like, Yeah,
1439
01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:38.840
if this is any kind of, like, I can't say
1440
01:12:38.859 --> 01:12:41.500
a bad word or it has to be PG or anything,
1441
01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:44.680
I'm like, that is just too stressful for me to, like,
1442
01:12:44.739 --> 01:12:47.859
try to work out or rewrite a whole new act
1443
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:49.039
for an hour. Like, just forget it.
1444
01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:49.319
Forget it.
1445
01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:49.819
But, yeah.
1446
01:12:49.859 --> 01:12:50.100
Forget it.
1447
01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:51.890
But I can relate to that. But, yeah, it's like
1448
01:12:51.899 --> 01:12:55.130
people don't realize how hard it is to get 50
1449
01:12:55.130 --> 01:12:57.789
strong minutes, let alone an hour and a half. Right.
1450
01:12:57.810 --> 01:12:59.829
People don't know how hard it is to get six
1451
01:12:59.869 --> 01:13:00.550
strong minutes.
1452
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Yeah.
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01:13:02.250 --> 01:13:02.510
You know?
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01:13:02.550 --> 01:13:04.789
And it's so funny because lately there's just been all
1455
01:13:04.829 --> 01:13:09.590
these– these reality stars and whatnot that are like, Oh,
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01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:10.579
I'm going to do stand up now.
1457
01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:12.500
I'm doing stand up now. So I'm bringing it up.
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01:13:13.140 --> 01:13:20.039
And the latest one, speaking of the Kardashians, um, you
1459
01:13:20.060 --> 01:13:22.640
black China is suing the Kardashians.
1460
01:13:22.659 --> 01:13:23.779
I was reading that this morning.
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01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:29.960
Yes. And, um, and it's Tokyo, Tokyo, Tokyo. Tony is
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01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:31.880
the mother. Yes. She hates them.
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01:13:31.979 --> 01:13:33.319
And she got thrown out of the courtroom.
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01:13:33.539 --> 01:13:33.779
Yes.
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01:13:34.020 --> 01:13:35.199
And so she is like.
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01:13:35.739 --> 01:13:40.000
She says, she goes, oh, come on. So she's threatened.
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01:13:40.199 --> 01:13:42.319
She's like, I'm going to get that judge or whatever
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01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:46.039
on her Instagram live. And so then they said, okay,
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01:13:46.060 --> 01:13:47.899
you can no longer be in the courtroom. And she's like,
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01:13:48.420 --> 01:13:50.479
I'm a comedian. That's my comedy.
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01:13:50.779 --> 01:13:53.590
And I'm like, what? By the way, and also, why
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01:13:53.619 --> 01:13:55.329
do they all want to have a cabaret act?
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01:13:55.850 --> 01:13:57.689
I know.
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01:13:58.069 --> 01:14:01.329
Sonia is doing that. Sonia in the city is cabaret
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01:14:01.350 --> 01:14:03.810
and comedy. And then, of course, Luann is down in
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01:14:03.829 --> 01:14:04.609
the cabaret.
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01:14:04.670 --> 01:14:11.670
But I'm just like, People don't understand how long it
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01:14:11.829 --> 01:14:16.460
takes to get to those places. Like, it's not easy.
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01:14:16.500 --> 01:14:18.000
And I was always amazed, like, when people would be
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01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:20.520
thinking and when people were always constantly, they would always
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01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:22.239
put someone else on the red carpet to go up
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01:14:22.260 --> 01:14:24.439
against me and my mom or another. People don't get
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01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:27.470
how hard it is and how many years it takes
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01:14:27.739 --> 01:14:32.770
to learn how to interview someone well. Speaking of the
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01:14:32.810 --> 01:14:34.489
red carpet, let's talk a little bit about that and
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01:14:34.510 --> 01:14:35.609
the Oscars. Okay.
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01:14:36.350 --> 01:14:40.470
And definitely when you guys were doing it and it
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01:14:40.510 --> 01:14:42.789
was a very exciting time for awards show. And a
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01:14:42.829 --> 01:14:45.069
part of it, and I've said this before, is because
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01:14:45.090 --> 01:14:46.369
we didn't have Instagram.
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01:14:46.449 --> 01:14:47.770
So we didn't know.
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01:14:47.449 --> 01:14:50.310
What our favorite person, what five dresses they were deciding between.
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01:14:50.869 --> 01:14:52.289
We didn't get to see them all the time. It
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01:14:52.329 --> 01:14:56.939
was a real treat to see the Julia Roberts walk down,
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01:14:57.000 --> 01:14:59.829
you know, now. Like, same thing. Like, I'm like, you know,
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01:14:59.869 --> 01:15:02.720
JLo's in my fucking TikTok selling her glow. Right. You know,
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01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:04.739
and I'm seeing, like, it's not a big deal for
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01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:07.180
me to now see JLo on the red carpet, but.
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01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:09.079
Because you saw what she was wearing an hour ago. Yeah,
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01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:11.520
but 10 years ago, like, ooh, this.
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01:15:11.460 --> 01:15:11.880
Is a treat.
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01:15:11.899 --> 01:15:13.920
You couldn't wait to see what they popped out of
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01:15:13.939 --> 01:15:14.439
the car in.
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01:15:14.510 --> 01:15:14.770
Yeah.
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01:15:14.779 --> 01:15:16.569
Because remember, it was all big secrets.
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01:15:16.949 --> 01:15:18.310
Right, exactly. And what do they wear?
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01:15:18.329 --> 01:15:21.310
And people weren't being paid to wear specific designers.
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01:15:21.909 --> 01:15:24.930
Right. Would they still always get borrowed jewels and stuff?
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01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:26.300
Yeah. Okay.
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01:15:26.310 --> 01:15:27.640
Because who's going to afford those?
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01:15:27.859 --> 01:15:30.680
I know. But I don't think I even knew that, though.
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01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:30.920
Yeah.
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01:15:31.100 --> 01:15:34.279
As the kid at home, I was like, oh, this
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01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:36.640
Cartier necklace that you're so rich to be able to
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01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:38.819
afford that. Like I didn't really– it was just– it's
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01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:42.699
now it's like– you know, it's like that show Magic Revealed. Yeah.
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01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:44.460
It was a show that they– Yeah, yeah, yeah. You
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01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:46.659
know how the magicians did all the tricks? And I
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01:15:46.680 --> 01:15:48.319
was like, I wish I didn't know that.
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01:15:48.420 --> 01:15:50.930
Right. But not just now– I want to know everything.
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01:15:51.010 --> 01:15:54.130
But now not only is stuff being loaned, there are
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01:15:54.149 --> 01:15:56.579
people who are literally– paid to wear things.
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01:15:56.899 --> 01:15:57.199
Right.
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01:15:58.600 --> 01:15:58.819
So.
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01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:02.869
Which you can't blame either party for that, you know, like.
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01:16:02.949 --> 01:16:03.569
No, you can't.
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01:16:04.670 --> 01:16:07.229
But with, and doing that, and that is such a
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01:16:07.369 --> 01:16:10.069
hard job. You're in this tight dress, you're wearing heels,
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01:16:10.170 --> 01:16:14.590
it's hot, your hair is heavy, it's uncomfortable. Yeah, people
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01:16:14.630 --> 01:16:16.850
do not know how hard a red carpet thing, I've
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01:16:16.890 --> 01:16:19.390
only done it a few times and I didn't love it.
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01:16:19.850 --> 01:16:22.380
And when it's live and it's happening so fast and
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01:16:22.420 --> 01:16:26.789
you have to be listening to your IFB in the
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01:16:26.850 --> 01:16:29.829
truck in one ear and then trying to focus on
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01:16:29.930 --> 01:16:34.270
the interview and staying present in that. Yeah. And trying
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01:16:34.289 --> 01:16:36.229
to not make it obvious that you're looking over the
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01:16:36.289 --> 01:16:39.569
shoulder to see who's coming and hope that your producer
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01:16:39.710 --> 01:16:42.770
at least hands you your card fast enough on whoever's
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01:16:43.029 --> 01:16:45.210
coming that you can at least do that and glance down.
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01:16:45.270 --> 01:16:48.710
And it was the last couple award ceremonies, which I've
1541
01:16:48.729 --> 01:16:51.449
been completely uninterested in. I'm like, if all of a
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01:16:51.470 --> 01:16:53.130
sudden someone asked me to do something, I'd be like,
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01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:55.510
I need to go away somewhere and watch all these
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01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:56.289
movies because.
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01:16:56.149 --> 01:16:58.210
I don't even know any of the nominations.
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01:16:58.609 --> 01:17:01.529
I mean, at least back then you kind of, you
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01:17:01.590 --> 01:17:04.010
wanted to see everything and you were like up on it.
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01:17:04.090 --> 01:17:05.770
And if you didn't, you'd probably go see it.
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01:17:05.850 --> 01:17:06.170
You know?
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01:17:06.970 --> 01:17:09.930
But also when they suddenly expanded it to 10 nominees,
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01:17:09.970 --> 01:17:15.340
I was like, like I had all this anxiety come back. Like, no,
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01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:18.640
I can barely retain just the few that I need to.
1553
01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:19.220
Right.
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01:17:19.340 --> 01:17:19.560
Yeah.
1555
01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:23.020
And so what do you think would have been her
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01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:27.020
opinion about the slap of Will Smith hitting Chris Rock
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01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:29.760
in that moment and how it was handled and all
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01:17:29.779 --> 01:17:30.100
of that?
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01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:32.289
She would have said, thank you for my new house.
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01:17:34.529 --> 01:17:38.270
Because she would have just had so much material. Yes.
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01:17:38.670 --> 01:17:41.109
I said that too. I did two, I did a
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solid two shows on it right after and One of
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01:17:44.229 --> 01:17:46.029
the clips that we put together, I think, is that
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01:17:46.029 --> 01:17:50.180
8 million views. And I'm like, you know, yeah, thank you. Exactly.
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01:17:50.199 --> 01:17:51.319
It was great material.
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01:17:51.819 --> 01:17:55.300
But I also feel like, if anything, it was kind
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01:17:55.340 --> 01:17:58.479
of a great moment for the pendulum, I believe, to
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01:17:58.520 --> 01:18:01.689
start swinging back. Because I feel like the majority of
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01:18:01.750 --> 01:18:06.029
Americans felt This has gone too far. We are affecting
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01:18:06.069 --> 01:18:09.760
not only free speech, but the ability of a stand-up
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01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:12.319
comic to say whatever the fuck they want. We want
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01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:14.479
to keep that. And so I feel like that was.
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01:18:14.520 --> 01:18:16.319
And what he said wasn't bad, and I have a
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01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:21.119
lot of opinion on this. First of all, to take
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01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:26.100
a victory lap and go to all those parties... Right, afterwards, yeah.
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01:18:26.189 --> 01:18:28.210
was No regard for what had happened.
1577
01:18:28.310 --> 01:18:28.630
No. Yeah.
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01:18:29.689 --> 01:18:32.859
And the certain... members of his family putting out tweets
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01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:37.159
that you're just like, Oh God. And then also, and
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01:18:37.180 --> 01:18:40.739
this kind of hit me later and I'm always been
1581
01:18:40.760 --> 01:18:42.979
a fan of Jada's work. And I think red table
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01:18:43.020 --> 01:18:46.050
talk is so fun. I know it's serious or whatever.
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01:18:47.850 --> 01:18:50.930
that people were coming out and saying Chris Rock should
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01:18:50.970 --> 01:18:55.909
have known the ego of saying Chris Rock should have
1585
01:18:55.949 --> 01:19:01.310
a working knowledge of Jada's medical conditions that she talks
1586
01:19:01.350 --> 01:19:03.140
about on Red Table Talk I can put on a
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01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:06.000
Facebook which is a Facebook show I can guarantee you
1588
01:19:06.359 --> 01:19:09.590
Chris has never watched an episode right Chris is not reading.
1589
01:19:09.609 --> 01:19:10.869
But here's the thing.
1590
01:19:11.130 --> 01:19:13.050
I follow all this shit and I didn't know. So
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01:19:13.229 --> 01:19:16.890
if I didn't know, of course Chris Rock didn't know.
1592
01:19:17.090 --> 01:19:19.010
And by the way, the joke wasn't bad.
1593
01:19:19.670 --> 01:19:20.670
And she looks gorgeous.
1594
01:19:21.390 --> 01:19:23.350
And two weeks before she'd come out and said, I
1595
01:19:23.369 --> 01:19:26.430
don't care what anybody says about my hair. I'm embracing it.
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01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:29.920
So it's like you kind of can't have it every
1597
01:19:29.979 --> 01:19:33.079
single way. And what I also find fascinating is that
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01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:37.500
the Williams sisters are silent. And I don't think it's
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01:19:38.619 --> 01:19:42.159
For the reason of that they're being supportive, I think.
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01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:44.479
And then he got up and disparaged their father. And
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01:19:44.500 --> 01:19:46.140
when he called himself like crazy Richard or something in
1602
01:19:46.180 --> 01:19:47.699
the middle of his speech.
1603
01:19:48.479 --> 01:19:49.579
Oh, interesting.
1604
01:19:49.699 --> 01:19:49.979
Oh, yeah.
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01:19:50.020 --> 01:19:51.220
He's acting like Richard.
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01:19:51.260 --> 01:19:51.479
Like.
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01:19:52.420 --> 01:19:53.239
Oh, yeah.
1608
01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:56.130
Oh, sometimes when you there's love, you act crazy. Like
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01:19:56.250 --> 01:19:58.430
I did like the part I played. Oh, I never
1610
01:19:58.489 --> 01:19:59.869
thought of it like that. Yeah.
1611
01:20:00.090 --> 01:20:01.789
Yeah. Not flattering.
1612
01:20:01.890 --> 01:20:02.090
Yeah.
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01:20:02.130 --> 01:20:06.930
You just called their father crazy. Right. So, I mean.
1614
01:20:08.100 --> 01:20:10.420
How do they process that?
1615
01:20:11.779 --> 01:20:13.779
Probably exactly what you said, just stay silent.
1616
01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:14.739
And that's the right thing to do.
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01:20:14.819 --> 01:20:15.090
Yeah.
1618
01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:17.390
But I can't imagine that they were happy about any
1619
01:20:17.430 --> 01:20:20.329
of it. And here goes this night where your picture
1620
01:20:20.350 --> 01:20:21.310
has been nominated.
1621
01:20:21.329 --> 01:20:24.090
I know, that was just, ugh.
1622
01:20:24.170 --> 01:20:26.109
No one's talking about how it ruined their night.
1623
01:20:26.529 --> 01:20:26.829
Right.
1624
01:20:29.210 --> 01:20:30.939
Which I feel bad about. Yeah, that's true.
1625
01:20:30.979 --> 01:20:33.960
I didn't think about, yeah. And the one girl, her
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01:20:34.020 --> 01:20:34.619
nip was out.
1627
01:20:35.170 --> 01:20:37.310
Oh yeah, that's why they put the title, the graphic
1628
01:20:37.409 --> 01:20:40.050
up because I guess poor Venus was so upset she
1629
01:20:40.069 --> 01:20:41.529
came flying out of her dress.
1630
01:20:41.590 --> 01:20:43.649
Well, it was a pretty challenging, it was one of
1631
01:20:43.670 --> 01:20:47.479
those dresses that, and I love, I love Fashion Police.
1632
01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:50.119
I love looking at the fashions and discussing it, you know,
1633
01:20:50.260 --> 01:20:53.100
even now. But it was one of those dresses that's
1634
01:20:53.119 --> 01:20:56.180
this like new thing where it's like really big cleavage
1635
01:20:56.579 --> 01:21:00.569
where probably looked great standing up. But you're sitting for
1636
01:21:00.609 --> 01:21:03.449
three hours and it's like, it's popping out, you know?
1637
01:21:03.470 --> 01:21:05.560
But not just that, I don't think, You should be
1638
01:21:05.619 --> 01:21:08.460
uncomfortable or worried looking at someone's dress.
1639
01:21:08.899 --> 01:21:09.060
Yeah.
1640
01:21:09.100 --> 01:21:10.899
And there were a bunch of dresses that you're like,
1641
01:21:11.180 --> 01:21:13.579
this dress, looking at this dress is giving me anxiety.
1642
01:21:13.939 --> 01:21:14.220
Right.
1643
01:21:14.550 --> 01:21:16.270
Because you're just like, oh, dear God, it's about to happen.
1644
01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:17.850
It's about to happen. I hope she doesn't have to.
1645
01:21:17.850 --> 01:21:20.189
I mean, I just find that means it's too low
1646
01:21:20.229 --> 01:21:24.270
cut or too this or too that if viewers are
1647
01:21:24.430 --> 01:21:28.310
getting anxious about it. Right. Good rule of thumb. Don't
1648
01:21:28.350 --> 01:21:30.210
make other people anxious about your clothing.
1649
01:21:31.550 --> 01:21:36.470
And also, like, speaking of, like, these moments... I always
1650
01:21:36.510 --> 01:21:39.439
just think of like Kate Hudson was nominated once for
1651
01:21:39.449 --> 01:21:41.140
an Oscar. What was the one?
1652
01:21:41.159 --> 01:21:43.319
I was going to.
1653
01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:44.819
Say I'm with the band, but that's not what I'm
1654
01:21:44.859 --> 01:21:45.479
talking about.
1655
01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:46.939
Oh, my God.
1656
01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:47.760
Famous. Almost famous.
1657
01:21:47.779 --> 01:21:49.810
Almost famous because it was Cameron Crowe. I was going
1658
01:21:49.819 --> 01:21:51.970
with the Cameron Crowe movie. She's so beautiful.
1659
01:21:52.390 --> 01:21:55.670
And she just made a horrible choice that night. And
1660
01:21:55.729 --> 01:21:58.170
I just remember it was like a chandelier thing and
1661
01:21:58.289 --> 01:22:01.949
shoulder pads and hair up and curly. When she had, like,
1662
01:22:02.149 --> 01:22:03.890
such a good body and could have worn, like, just
1663
01:22:03.930 --> 01:22:07.850
a fabulous dress. And I'm always like, God, you know,
1664
01:22:08.310 --> 01:22:13.069
the process that goes into saying this. It's like your
1665
01:22:13.090 --> 01:22:16.909
wedding dress. Like, I don't want to hate this look
1666
01:22:17.069 --> 01:22:19.460
in 20 years. So I really got to think about it.
1667
01:22:20.270 --> 01:22:22.770
And that's always, like, a fun thing to analyze when
1668
01:22:22.979 --> 01:22:24.420
you guys would do, like, Fashion Police.
1669
01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:26.500
Oh, yeah. Because, by the way, no one walks out
1670
01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:27.840
of their house thinking they look awful.
1671
01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:29.500
Yeah.
1672
01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:33.189
You got to always remember that. But you also say
1673
01:22:33.449 --> 01:22:34.729
we've all made mistakes.
1674
01:22:34.949 --> 01:22:35.229
Yeah.
1675
01:22:35.350 --> 01:22:36.670
And we're not saying you're a bad person.
1676
01:22:37.130 --> 01:22:37.369
Right.
1677
01:22:37.430 --> 01:22:40.250
We're not saying that you're, you know, killing puppies. We're
1678
01:22:40.289 --> 01:22:44.310
saying we didn't like one dress you wore. By the way,
1679
01:22:44.350 --> 01:22:50.399
that you also got for free. Yeah. That's worth probably $ 15, 000
1680
01:22:48.340 --> 01:22:50.640
and was one of 10 you got to pick from
1681
01:22:50.699 --> 01:22:53.380
and wear during awards season. We all need to take
1682
01:22:53.420 --> 01:22:56.239
a deep breath. And you're making $ 20 million a picture.
1683
01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:01.510
Breathe. But I also think like what was fun about
1684
01:23:01.529 --> 01:23:04.109
Fashion Police and a panel is because people did start
1685
01:23:04.149 --> 01:23:07.850
making less mistakes. Like, you know, Cher would wear a
1686
01:23:07.899 --> 01:23:11.680
weird thing with the feathers or Bork would wear the ostrich.
1687
01:23:11.699 --> 01:23:14.600
Like those days are kind of over and people are
1688
01:23:14.619 --> 01:23:17.380
pretty much looking good. But what was kind of good
1689
01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:21.829
is you could still say, I like this because or hey.
1690
01:23:22.609 --> 01:23:24.539
You know what? It's just not my favorite look for
1691
01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:27.159
this reason. And it wouldn't be so, like, hideous. It
1692
01:23:27.199 --> 01:23:29.600
just could be a discussion of, like, I've been saying
1693
01:23:29.659 --> 01:23:31.979
lately there's been stuff going on, and I featured on
1694
01:23:32.020 --> 01:23:36.300
the show, that is so horrific that's happening in fashion
1695
01:23:36.340 --> 01:23:40.199
right now. Three things. One is the under tit, where
1696
01:23:40.340 --> 01:23:42.300
everyone's showing just the bottom of their boobs.
1697
01:23:42.319 --> 01:23:44.000
But that's a retread. Remember?
1698
01:23:44.020 --> 01:23:46.260
No. When was that ever in?
1699
01:23:46.300 --> 01:23:48.779
That was, like, ten years ago. Go back and look.
1700
01:23:49.140 --> 01:23:51.789
It was all the under boob. Okay, I don't remember
1701
01:23:51.810 --> 01:23:53.390
from 10 years ago.
1702
01:23:53.449 --> 01:23:54.770
Was the fupa ever featured?
1703
01:23:55.569 --> 01:23:59.770
No, but the very low jeans with the G-string hanging out.
1704
01:24:00.109 --> 01:24:00.449
True.
1705
01:24:01.010 --> 01:24:05.989
And the predecessor of fupa was the camel toe. Why
1706
01:24:06.010 --> 01:24:09.770
is this shit all in my head? And you wonder
1707
01:24:09.850 --> 01:24:13.239
why there's days I can't remember my own name. But
1708
01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:14.840
I can discuss the fact that, yes, we have seen
1709
01:24:14.920 --> 01:24:15.720
underboob before.
1710
01:24:15.739 --> 01:24:17.939
Okay. I mean, I thought.
1711
01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:22.920
I'm still for a side tit. I still like a
1712
01:24:22.960 --> 01:24:23.439
side tit.
1713
01:24:23.460 --> 01:24:25.520
But you can because you also know how to tape
1714
01:24:25.550 --> 01:24:26.090
yourself in.
1715
01:24:27.289 --> 01:24:28.869
Still, I think it's sort of sexy look.
1716
01:24:28.949 --> 01:24:31.189
But when you're working on a red carpet, there are
1717
01:24:31.210 --> 01:24:32.850
plenty of times I had to be real careful.
1718
01:24:33.329 --> 01:24:33.430
Yeah.
1719
01:24:33.449 --> 01:24:36.619
Because when you're leaning forward with your mic, you might
1720
01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:38.520
be giving the viewers a little bit something extra.
1721
01:24:39.579 --> 01:24:42.699
What would be your secret like thing to just really
1722
01:24:42.739 --> 01:24:45.579
look good? You have like five days before the event.
1723
01:24:45.939 --> 01:24:47.720
You want to make sure that tummy's flat. Do you
1724
01:24:47.739 --> 01:24:50.340
have any secrets like that that someone could use for like,
1725
01:24:50.380 --> 01:24:51.520
you know, an upcoming event?
1726
01:24:51.859 --> 01:24:54.880
Spanx. You can starve yourself. You can do this. Make
1727
01:24:54.920 --> 01:24:56.840
sure you, you know, I always heard about stories of
1728
01:24:56.859 --> 01:24:59.479
people like dehydrating themselves.
1729
01:24:59.680 --> 01:24:59.960
Right.
1730
01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:00.779
And then, yeah.
1731
01:25:00.899 --> 01:25:04.109
But that's, I mean, that's awful. Yeah. You watch what
1732
01:25:04.149 --> 01:25:05.590
you eat, but you also, because you want to look
1733
01:25:05.609 --> 01:25:08.000
healthy and you want your skin to look good. And
1734
01:25:08.239 --> 01:25:10.659
generally when it was the Golden Globes, we'd all eaten
1735
01:25:10.680 --> 01:25:13.720
like crazy people over the holidays. So suddenly January 1st
1736
01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:17.020
hit and we're back on the treadmill. Yeah. And then,
1737
01:25:17.050 --> 01:25:19.850
I mean, I know people who would buy Spanx a
1738
01:25:19.909 --> 01:25:20.590
size too small.
1739
01:25:21.250 --> 01:25:21.449
Right.
1740
01:25:22.420 --> 01:25:22.640
Yeah.
1741
01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:25.539
You know. It's so uncomfortable. I had to wear Spanx
1742
01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:27.949
the other night for the first time in two and
1743
01:25:27.970 --> 01:25:28.850
a half years. And I was like.
1744
01:25:29.569 --> 01:25:30.869
Have you tried Skims?
1745
01:25:31.310 --> 01:25:31.630
Yes.
1746
01:25:31.970 --> 01:25:33.289
I have. Do they suck you in?
1747
01:25:33.310 --> 01:25:34.550
I feel like they don't.
1748
01:25:34.670 --> 01:25:36.289
But the Skims bras.
1749
01:25:36.649 --> 01:25:36.930
Yeah.
1750
01:25:37.210 --> 01:25:37.850
Are great.
1751
01:25:38.430 --> 01:25:38.710
Nice.
1752
01:25:39.100 --> 01:25:40.600
That I have discovered. They seem like they're like a
1753
01:25:40.600 --> 01:25:42.180
nice like material.
1754
01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:44.039
Yeah. But I'm like I don't feel like they'll suck
1755
01:25:44.079 --> 01:25:47.840
you in like a. Like a Spanx that really snatches
1756
01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:48.720
your waist. Yeah.
1757
01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:50.460
No, you've got to go OG.
1758
01:25:50.779 --> 01:25:51.060
Yeah.
1759
01:25:51.239 --> 01:25:54.779
But I will say the Skims t-shirt bras, I'm in
1760
01:25:54.819 --> 01:25:57.569
love with. Okay. Hint, hint. Please send me.
1761
01:25:58.149 --> 01:26:01.630
Yeah, let's do it. I don't mind. Have you ever
1762
01:26:01.649 --> 01:26:03.750
tried to reach out to Joan through a medium? We
1763
01:26:03.770 --> 01:26:06.289
had talked about this. Have you changed your mind?
1764
01:26:06.470 --> 01:26:09.670
No. No. I hear her voice enough without needing help.
1765
01:26:10.310 --> 01:26:10.430
Yeah.
1766
01:26:11.710 --> 01:26:14.430
You hear her opinion about things before. I hear it
1767
01:26:14.470 --> 01:26:18.449
whether I want to or not. And I'm too anxious
1768
01:26:18.470 --> 01:26:19.649
because I know I would only hear it.
1769
01:26:19.649 --> 01:26:21.409
Have you ever been at a party with a medium
1770
01:26:21.430 --> 01:26:23.750
who goes, I just have to tell you that Joan
1771
01:26:23.789 --> 01:26:24.909
is here? And what do they say?
1772
01:26:24.930 --> 01:26:27.829
I don't even remember. Half the time it just goes,
1773
01:26:28.449 --> 01:26:30.390
and she's so this and she's so that and she
1774
01:26:30.529 --> 01:26:32.729
loves Cooper and she's in a good place. I'm like, oh,
1775
01:26:32.750 --> 01:26:33.010
thank you.
1776
01:26:33.149 --> 01:26:34.609
And you're like, yeah, that's what I thought.
1777
01:26:35.140 --> 01:26:39.060
Thank you. I appreciate that. I did have someone once.
1778
01:26:41.130 --> 01:26:44.569
Oh, God, this is such a terrible story. Who was
1779
01:26:44.609 --> 01:26:47.989
married to someone else in our world. Come up to me. Okay,
1780
01:26:51.520 --> 01:26:52.770
I just want to be careful.
1781
01:26:52.949 --> 01:26:53.270
All right.
1782
01:26:53.489 --> 01:26:56.739
They came up to me the night before, the day
1783
01:26:56.779 --> 01:27:00.359
of the funeral, saying that the night before my mother
1784
01:27:00.420 --> 01:27:02.840
had come to them. Out of all the people to
1785
01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:05.699
come to. Exactly. And I'm, like, having to stand there
1786
01:27:06.060 --> 01:27:09.930
and feel, like, gracious about it. Because I was raised
1787
01:27:10.029 --> 01:27:11.810
too well to just not turn to them and say,
1788
01:27:12.229 --> 01:27:16.369
not now. Or which I was really thinking is, she
1789
01:27:16.390 --> 01:27:19.909
would not come to you. She would not come to you.
1790
01:27:20.590 --> 01:27:23.609
And I was just like, she's like, yeah, she came
1791
01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:26.159
to me. And this is what she's thinking. And this
1792
01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:29.159
is what she's like. And I'm like, we're getting in
1793
01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:32.000
the car to leave for the funeral. Like, this is not.
1794
01:27:33.420 --> 01:27:35.420
I know you think you're making me feel better.
1795
01:27:36.050 --> 01:27:38.829
But like in the words of every real housewife. Shut up.
1796
01:27:38.989 --> 01:27:39.930
It's not about you.
1797
01:27:39.949 --> 01:27:40.250
Yeah.
1798
01:27:40.310 --> 01:27:43.109
It's not about you. I don't have time for this.
1799
01:27:43.229 --> 01:27:44.460
I do not have time for you.
1800
01:27:44.479 --> 01:27:44.560
Yeah.
1801
01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:49.920
You know what I mean? This moment is not about you. Yes.
1802
01:27:50.380 --> 01:27:53.800
And it's like, that is so funny because imagine all
1803
01:27:53.819 --> 01:27:57.140
the famous people that, you know, went to Joan's funeral
1804
01:27:57.560 --> 01:28:01.220
and everybody wants to believe that it's about them. And like,
1805
01:28:01.279 --> 01:28:03.739
that is actually really funny that you're like at your
1806
01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:04.279
brother's funeral.
1807
01:28:04.300 --> 01:28:09.010
People are like, hi, uh, Yeah. And she wants me
1808
01:28:09.050 --> 01:28:09.670
to tell you.
1809
01:28:10.310 --> 01:28:10.729
Oh, my God.
1810
01:28:10.750 --> 01:28:12.630
That is so funny. You have no idea. There are
1811
01:28:12.649 --> 01:28:15.890
so many great stories about the funeral, about people being
1812
01:28:15.979 --> 01:28:19.180
upset that their name had to be on a list
1813
01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:20.539
because we said.
1814
01:28:20.560 --> 01:28:20.939
Yeah.
1815
01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:21.800
Because of security.
1816
01:28:21.979 --> 01:28:22.220
Right.
1817
01:28:22.439 --> 01:28:26.119
Everybody needs. How dare you ask me to put my
1818
01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:29.090
name on a list? Then don't fucking come. I do
1819
01:28:29.119 --> 01:28:31.350
not have time. It's not about you. I do not
1820
01:28:31.350 --> 01:28:34.189
have time for this. You know what I mean?
1821
01:28:34.189 --> 01:28:37.069
That is– yeah. And I remember that you know there
1822
01:28:37.140 --> 01:28:38.960
was a moment where she talked about her funeral and
1823
01:28:38.979 --> 01:28:41.420
the kind of funeral that she wanted so it is
1824
01:28:41.539 --> 01:28:45.880
nice that you knew what someone wanted some people don't know.
1825
01:28:45.619 --> 01:28:48.760
What shocking is how much bad behavior there is at
1826
01:28:48.840 --> 01:28:53.939
funerals yes like real bad behavior that you find out
1827
01:28:54.090 --> 01:28:55.989
afterwards and for me anyway I was like god I
1828
01:28:56.029 --> 01:28:58.210
wish I had seen that or gosh I wish I
1829
01:28:58.210 --> 01:29:00.829
would have been able to watch that happen But obviously
1830
01:29:00.930 --> 01:29:03.569
I didn't. But yeah, my favorite was She Came to
1831
01:29:03.609 --> 01:29:04.090
Me Last Night.
1832
01:29:04.109 --> 01:29:05.069
That's amazing.
1833
01:29:05.130 --> 01:29:07.310
Get in the fucking car. I don't have time to
1834
01:29:07.350 --> 01:29:08.529
discuss this with you.
1835
01:29:09.229 --> 01:29:11.640
Did the actors or the writers of Miss Maisel ever
1836
01:29:11.699 --> 01:29:12.600
reach out to you?
1837
01:29:12.800 --> 01:29:13.779
Rachel Brosnahan has.
1838
01:29:14.340 --> 01:29:15.340
Oh, that's awesome.
1839
01:29:15.420 --> 01:29:20.439
And she's lovely and talented and wonderful. And I'm excited
1840
01:29:20.460 --> 01:29:23.500
that I get to say I'm a fan of hers. Good.
1841
01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:24.840
And we'll just leave it at that.
1842
01:29:25.340 --> 01:29:25.760
Yes.
1843
01:29:26.819 --> 01:29:29.689
What does she think? Oh, wait, hold on. She being me.
1844
01:29:30.729 --> 01:29:30.949
Yeah.
1845
01:29:31.189 --> 01:29:31.859
No, wait, hold on.
1846
01:29:31.890 --> 01:29:36.489
No, I'm finding a buddy. Okay. Now we've talked, I have,
1847
01:29:36.569 --> 01:29:39.609
I'm friends with a lot of comedians and I went
1848
01:29:39.869 --> 01:29:43.090
on a trip to Cabo and we invited Josh flag
1849
01:29:44.210 --> 01:29:46.250
and he was like the ninth wheel cause everyone else
1850
01:29:46.270 --> 01:29:49.590
was a couple. And Chris Frangelo brings us up all
1851
01:29:49.609 --> 01:29:53.149
the time that we were on a boat and he
1852
01:29:53.210 --> 01:29:56.350
was drunk and he was literally talking to you on
1853
01:29:56.390 --> 01:30:00.350
the phone when the phone went overboard and And so
1854
01:30:00.369 --> 01:30:02.729
Chris will be like, is Melissa Rivers still at the
1855
01:30:02.789 --> 01:30:05.550
bottom of that ocean?
1856
01:30:06.029 --> 01:30:11.970
No, I'm here. But we have had some fun moments
1857
01:30:12.050 --> 01:30:12.710
with Josh.
1858
01:30:12.909 --> 01:30:13.189
Yes.
1859
01:30:13.210 --> 01:30:14.510
Well, I want to know, what does he say to
1860
01:30:14.569 --> 01:30:16.529
you when, like, you answer the phone, you go, hello?
1861
01:30:16.550 --> 01:30:21.289
He'll be like, he usually goes like, hi, Pumpkin, or hi, Sweetie.
1862
01:30:21.310 --> 01:30:22.430
Oh, my God, that's the same name I get.
1863
01:30:22.449 --> 01:30:22.989
Yeah, yeah.
1864
01:30:23.010 --> 01:30:23.590
Hi, Pumpkin.
1865
01:30:23.750 --> 01:30:25.770
Yeah, yeah. It's always like, eat sweet.
1866
01:30:25.890 --> 01:30:27.680
But I always wondered if I was the only one
1867
01:30:27.689 --> 01:30:32.430
who was Pumpkin. No, he obviously says it to you too.
1868
01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:34.029
Yes, but I kind of do that too. But it's
1869
01:30:34.210 --> 01:30:36.710
definitely like, yeah, he's got a sweetness about him.
1870
01:30:36.770 --> 01:30:38.289
But I just think it's funny that we all– I
1871
01:30:38.329 --> 01:30:39.729
always enter the phone and go, yes, dear.
1872
01:30:40.130 --> 01:30:41.810
Yeah.
1873
01:30:42.850 --> 01:30:44.470
Yeah, so what did you think when you heard they
1874
01:30:44.489 --> 01:30:46.270
broke up? That was really sad.
1875
01:30:46.289 --> 01:30:47.689
I think we called each other.
1876
01:30:48.050 --> 01:30:48.350
We did.
1877
01:30:49.430 --> 01:30:49.710
We did.
1878
01:30:49.729 --> 01:30:52.739
I think first I sent– I went text like, oh,
1879
01:30:52.949 --> 01:30:55.939
my God, did you hear? And you're like, yes, I
1880
01:30:56.020 --> 01:31:00.369
heard that. Two weeks ago or something. I'm like, he
1881
01:31:00.409 --> 01:31:03.220
didn't say anything to me and I found out in
1882
01:31:03.260 --> 01:31:06.979
a very random way. Yeah. And he had forgotten that
1883
01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:11.000
he hadn't told me. Oh. He had forgotten what he
1884
01:31:11.039 --> 01:31:14.579
hadn't told me because he was asking me about, someone
1885
01:31:14.619 --> 01:31:16.439
was asking him in the press and what should he
1886
01:31:16.510 --> 01:31:17.989
say and how should he handle it. I'm like, I
1887
01:31:18.010 --> 01:31:20.350
don't know what you're talking about. He goes, oh, I
1888
01:31:20.369 --> 01:31:21.109
forgot to tell you.
1889
01:31:21.529 --> 01:31:24.369
Well, the way he told me is that he called
1890
01:31:24.430 --> 01:31:28.560
me up and said, I'm on my way to Santa Barbara,
1891
01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:31.680
and I want to get a Bloody Mary, and I
1892
01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:34.579
figured you would know some place along the way.
1893
01:31:34.600 --> 01:31:36.199
And I'm like, where are you?
1894
01:31:36.239 --> 01:31:38.399
And he's like, oh, I'm at Topanga in Woodland Hills
1895
01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:40.060
on the 101. I go, okay, so go to the
1896
01:31:40.119 --> 01:31:42.729
Four Seasons in Westlake.
1897
01:31:42.850 --> 01:31:43.149
Right.
1898
01:31:43.189 --> 01:31:45.850
Stop there and get your Bloody Mary. That should hold
1899
01:31:45.909 --> 01:31:48.210
you over, God forbid, you go an hour and a half.
1900
01:31:48.229 --> 01:31:48.890
Without a cocktail.
1901
01:31:48.909 --> 01:31:49.310
Yeah, yeah.
1902
01:31:50.329 --> 01:31:51.989
Yeah, wouldn't want to do that.
1903
01:31:52.189 --> 01:31:54.670
And that's when he's like, do you want some Juicy Scope?
1904
01:31:55.210 --> 01:31:57.229
And I'm like, what is it?
1905
01:31:58.449 --> 01:32:02.949
He actually forgot that he hadn't told me.
1906
01:32:03.350 --> 01:32:03.590
Yeah.
1907
01:32:03.810 --> 01:32:06.710
And then he called me. He was in Bora Bora.
1908
01:32:06.729 --> 01:32:08.470
And he was like, hi, pumpkin.
1909
01:32:08.510 --> 01:32:09.289
I'm like, where are you?
1910
01:32:09.310 --> 01:32:10.909
He's like, Bora Bora. I'm like, what are you doing
1911
01:32:10.930 --> 01:32:15.729
in Bora Bora? And he's like, oh, yeah, I needed
1912
01:32:15.770 --> 01:32:19.529
to get away. I'm like, why? And he's like, oh, yeah,
1913
01:32:19.569 --> 01:32:22.210
I forgot to tell you. I know. And by the way,
1914
01:32:22.229 --> 01:32:26.569
God forbid we forget to tell him something. Right.
1915
01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:26.939
Yeah.
1916
01:32:27.109 --> 01:32:29.899
Then it's like a whole other... Right. But he's a love.
1917
01:32:30.140 --> 01:32:33.180
People don't get how... Also how funny he is.
1918
01:32:33.819 --> 01:32:37.380
Yes. He's so funny and I just thoroughly enjoy him and.
1919
01:32:37.979 --> 01:32:40.239
But he's like a 70-year-old. No, he is.
1920
01:32:40.659 --> 01:32:43.479
I'm like he identifies as an 80-year-old Jewish woman.
1921
01:32:43.579 --> 01:32:45.039
Yeah. And that's accurate.
1922
01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:47.899
And so sometimes when he says inappropriate stuff, I'm like
1923
01:32:48.300 --> 01:32:50.500
I would forgive Joan Rivers and I will forgive you.
1924
01:32:50.579 --> 01:32:50.800
Yeah.
1925
01:32:50.840 --> 01:32:55.489
Because you're not a 35-year-old gay man living in L.A. No.
1926
01:32:55.550 --> 01:32:58.550
You're not. He's a Beverly Hills matron.
1927
01:32:58.770 --> 01:32:59.050
Yeah.
1928
01:32:59.770 --> 01:33:01.909
You know what I mean? He is a Beverly Hills matron.
1929
01:33:02.670 --> 01:33:04.630
So funny. Let me see if I have anything else
1930
01:33:04.670 --> 01:33:05.449
I want to say.
1931
01:33:05.470 --> 01:33:06.109
Yeah.
1932
01:33:06.970 --> 01:33:09.069
Oh, do you have any relationship with Kathy Griffin?
1933
01:33:09.890 --> 01:33:13.869
No, I definitely– I did post about her when she
1934
01:33:14.470 --> 01:33:18.659
was sick and just said something sweet like, you know,
1935
01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:21.579
you can do this or whatever. And I never heard.
1936
01:33:22.859 --> 01:33:22.960
Oh.
1937
01:33:23.739 --> 01:33:25.479
Which is fine. Yeah. Which is fine.
1938
01:33:27.319 --> 01:33:28.439
I mean, I don't know if you want to speak
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on that. I don't really understand whatever happened. That was
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just kind of a bizarre thing.
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It was just a really bad situation.
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Yeah.
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Nobody was clear. Like I have said repeatedly, we went
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back too fast. We made too many decisions that fast.
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To fashion police. Yeah.
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We basically got remarried without thinking the whole thing through.
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And sometimes when you marry into a family, you think
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it's going to be great and it doesn't work out
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so well. And that's the easiest analogy. No harm, no foul. Right.
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We went back way too fast.
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Do you think that there is a place in society
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to have another fashion police?
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Yes, it would have to be vastly different. Because if
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you tried to do it in the old format, you
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would spend the whole time qualifying everything. And that's not fun. So,
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I'm not sure I like this dress, but I do
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think that this woman is incredibly beautiful, incredibly talented, so
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body positive. And usually, I really like... Did you know
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that she works for, you know, Pet Rescue, and she's
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just a wonderful human being? Not sure.
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If the color works for me.
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If the color works for me, but that's not saying
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that the designer isn't a genius.
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Right.
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And that is not entertaining or funny.
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No.
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And the designer's a genius. Now, sometimes they make some mistakes,
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but that's because they're a human. And they're a good human.
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It's just like, how do you make a show out
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of that?
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Yeah, no.
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And you're clearly full of shit.
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Right.
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Better not to do it and stay kind of honest.
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Right.
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Than try and shove a square peg into a round hole.
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And we're living in a round hole right now. And
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Fashion Police is a square peg.
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Did you keep some of her clothes, I assume? Some
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of her best outfits and stuff?
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I've sold a bunch for different charities. I do keep
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some really good pieces. So when charities ask me for
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something for an auction, I can donate something great. Right.
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Depending upon the charity, obviously. People always ask me what
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I've kept for myself. Basically her two crappy travel sweaters.
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Okay.
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Because that's what I think of.
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Right.
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And I have some of her perfume and I'll spritz
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the perfume on it so when I open that part
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of my closet, it still smells like her. Oh, that's
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so cute. But yeah, like the other day I was
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really sad and tired and all this. And I just
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put on one of her old cardigan tattered travel sweater. Yeah.
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And you just feel better. That's great.
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Yeah.
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I love that. Thank you so much for coming out. Lies.
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My mother told me it's by Melissa Rivers, and it's
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a lot of fun. It's a work of nonfiction fiction,
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which I love.
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It's a new genre. Right.
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It's like stories about your life, and then just goes
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funny tangents that's very Joan Rivers, and I love it.
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I can never get enough. I feel like I've made
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a new genre. Think of me as the female Truman
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Capote coming up with a new genre of nonfiction. fiction,
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fiction for sure.
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Yeah, and then all the quotes on the back are
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so funny, and they're like... Wait, you know how normally
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people are like, so-and-so, so this is a great... When
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Joan told a story, the truth disappeared faster than I did.
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Jimmy Hoffa.
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Twelve of my 26 personalities love this book, says Sybil.
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I mean, this is so.
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Oh, my God.
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All's not well that ends well. I've had massages with
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happier endings. William Shakespeare. Really funny. Really cute. I mean,
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it's great. Thank you. Love it.
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Thank you.
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I'm so glad you could come.
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Thank you.
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And tell everybody where else they can follow you.
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Instagram, Twitter. Well, what's the name? Melissa Rivers Official.
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I thought you were Mel Rivers on something.
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I was.
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Oh, so, okay, good. You changed it.
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I changed it to Melissa Rivers Official. I have my website,
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Melissa Rivers Group Text, which Heather has been on a
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number of times.
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Yes.
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I have to get you back on.
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Yeah, that's fun.
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And, God, I'm everywhere just enough to be annoying. I
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like it.
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Very good. Thank you.
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Thank you. Paris Saint-Germain win the Champions League.
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All of a sudden there are a lot more monster
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voices in Trump Park. Players collapse to the ground.
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It is utter heartbreak.
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Alcaraz rewrites the tennis history books. Just take in that noise.
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