FKN Classics Double Feature! Ken Swartz - Moon Aliens | Elisabeth Hancock - Spiritual Evolution

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Enjoy these back-to-back classic forbidden knowledge news episodes. Today I
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want to welcome back to the show Ken Swartz. He
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is founder and chief science officer of C60 Purple Power.
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He has run several research science laboratories over the course
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of his career and discovered C60 while developing the MOXIE
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fusion reactor. Ken, welcome back. How are you doing?
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Doing pretty good. How are you doing up in the
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cold lands?
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It's cold, but we're doing good, trying our best to
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stay warm. Having a great time either way and looking
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forward to the discussion. You sent me some very interesting
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topics that we're going to discuss today, such as NASA blunders,
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some that most never really hear about. And also, if
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we have time, you have made a discovery about new
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gravitational formulas today. which they may be magnitudes more accurate
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than Newton's formulas, and were actually utilized by the Indian
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Space Research Organization in their endeavors to the moon. So
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this is fascinating. Before we get into this, remind the
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audience just a bit about yourself and your contributions to
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the world of C60 oils, and we'll get into a
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little bit of the benefits of that as well before
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we get too deep into these topics.
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Oh, yeah, I am. I guess I'm a C60 power.
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I'm kind of like the C60 guy. I've been around
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for years and years. And, of course, you probably heard
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that we got our C60 gummies. We've got our C60 products.
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But it all really started, I was working on the
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metal oxygen fusion reactor project and needed a radiation protection.
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So I went out and found this stuff called Carbon 60.
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And there's a lot of people, dead professors and late
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PhDs associated with Moxie Fusion. And, uh, which is what
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we call it today. It used to be called Leonard and, uh,
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cold fusion, but, uh, it's, it's solved. It's got solutions.
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It's got patents and it's got multiple, uh, third-party verification.
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So that part's all finished, but, uh, but it is
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after taking C60, cause you know, they gave one set
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of rats C60, the other didn't, they hit them with
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a fatal dose of radiation and the C60 rats lived
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where the other ones died. Obviously that's what you want
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to have when you're doing radiation. So obviously we took it,
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we're all still alive. And then, uh, when I went to, uh, get, uh,
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about seven months later, I kept taking C60 and I
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had more energy, better mental focus. And when I went
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to get checked for my optometrist, my annual checkout, my
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Drew's a dry macular degeneration and disappear. And then after
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I learned that, that was pretty amazing. Cause he'd never
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seen that happen before. I made it a product for
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my electrical engineer, Gary Rodriguez, cause he had type two
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diabetes and that causes, uh, uh, that causes, uh, macular
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degeneration often. And so I gave, I made a, uh,
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a formulation in MCT oil for him, and he took
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it for about 15 months, and his severe wet macular
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degeneration went away, still gone today, which is a medical miracle,
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supposedly can't happen. But basically, and then finally, you know, anyway,
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one thing led to the other, and now people are
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using C60 all over the world. I kind of was
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the guy that built the market just by, you know,
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telling people about it and sharing it with people, and
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the company built up, and now there's Dozens of companies,
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but we're kind of like the original that kind of
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brought it out. But it's just, you know, if you
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want a better energy, better mental focus, it really gets
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the mitochondria going. And quite frankly, if you're in the
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gray hair crowd, that's where C60 is going to get
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you the best. You know, you get a little slow.
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Things aren't working as well as you get older. You
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know how that goes. I do. So taking C60 kind
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of restarts all that good stuff. And you can go
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to the websites, shopc60. com and read about it. There's also
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a website, whatisc60. org. It's kind of one of those 5013Cs,
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and it has like all the whole story about Carbon
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60 and all of its health benefits, which we can't
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post because, you know, three-letter agencies say things. So you
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can just go there to whatisc60. org and learn all about it.
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And that's probably long enough because then we have more
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things to talk about, and we can always talk about,
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you know, C60 later. There's always new things happening with C60.
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It's got a lot of industrial applications as well.
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Incredible product. I still use it every day. My pets
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use it. If you want to learn more, use the
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link right in the description, and you still can get
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10% off your entire order. All right, so let's get
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into some NASA blunders that most folks may have never
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even heard about.
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Well, I guess the big one is Apollo 13. Of course,
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you remember that. It was gone the way to the moon,
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and the oxygen tank blew up. Well, I was talking
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to my dad, who was actually in the Apollo programs.
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I could probably talk about that later. But what he
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said is that oxygen tank, you know, it had some
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internal stuff in it. What happens is they were building
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the Apollo 13 and one of the guys with the
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forklift had gone there to pick the tank up and
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was taking it out and it fell. It fell about
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six feet and hit the ground. And then they looked
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at it and said, oh, it looks pretty good to me.
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And they put it back on the pallet and it
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went into Apollo 13. Of course, what those idiots didn't
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know is that there was a bunch of internal stuff
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in that for valve regulation and things, because you want
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to pack things up. And so it was inside the thing.
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So looking at it from the outside, of course, eventually
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NASA did, after actually, I think I was the one
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that broke the story, and NASA finally had to admit
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that that had actually happened. But they said it fell
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three inches, right? Yeah, never a straight answer. Yeah, three inches, right?
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Let's address some of the conspiracies before we get too
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deep into some of the blunders, because this is a
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conspiracy show. And I know for a fact there are
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plenty of folks that not only question the NASA narratives
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and things coming out that are supposedly real pictures and
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real videos from the moon landing, question that the moon
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landing even happened. We have the Flat Earth conspiracies, so...
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First of all, let's address some of those moon landing conspiracies.
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Did we actually go? And why is the footage that
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we see not matching up? Why is there so much
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inconsistencies and strange things that really point to, at the least,
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some doctored footage?
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Oh, yeah, there is something. Well, first off, we did
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go to the moon. And the Japanese have spent spacecrafts
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to the moon. And they have taken pictures of the
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Apollo landing sites. Okay, and so have the Chinese. So
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you can go out there and find, you can find
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the Japanese photos. I'm not sure how much the Chinese
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put up. But so you can actually do that. So
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other people, Russians have probably taken pictures too. And I
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don't know, they don't post much of anything ever. So
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well for that. But so yeah, we were there. Now
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there actually, and there actually was a moon video because
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they had to, on the first landing of the moon,
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they weren't sure whether the people would survive. And so
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as a backup for that, I think, who was it?
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Johnson or Nixon, whoever, I think it was Nixon that
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does that, whatever it was. Anyway, they actually did make
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a film because they were figuring if they landed on
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the moon and crashed, what they'd do is they'd, they'd
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made a film that they'd pretend that they'd actually landed
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on the moon. And then during the takeoff from the moon,
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there was a terrible accident and the astronauts died. And
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that way they could at least, you know, claim that
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they got there rather than they just crashed on the
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moon's surface. But, but no, that's actually there. People have
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seen the, you can actually, you know, other countries have
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sent their spacecraft to the moon. You can see the
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landing site. So it's there. And also one of the
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things on the landing site, they put up these special
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mirrors that always reflect back the way you set them.
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They're like a cubicle solid mirror. And they use laser
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pulses from the earth will fire at this mirror on
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the moon. And then of course the light flights back
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and you can measure within like millimeters how far away
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the moon is from the earth. And this is part
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of an ongoing science project. And so you can actually,
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you know, you can go to the place and see
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them do it. Or if you really had enough money,
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you'd go do it yourself. So how did that reflective
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mirror get on the moon that you yourself could fire
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a laser at and get a reflection back if somebody
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hadn't put it there, right? So it's pretty obvious that, yeah,
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we went to the moon. But, you know, there's a
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lot of things like all the, you know, it's all
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the lunar photos actually go to a private corporation. before
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they're released to us because it's illegal for certain ways
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for government to censor things, but it's perfectly okay for
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a private. So, you know, I don't know if you
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remember Jose Escamilla and moon rising. No.
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Yeah. He was, he's passed away, but he was like
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one of those, he made a lot of UFO films,
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Roswell rods, and one of them was moon rising and
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the Celeste mission, which was one of the first, I
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think it was just an orbiter around the moon. And
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then they released the photos, but, and, you know, cause
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there's all kinds of, objects and other things on the
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moon's surface, right? People say alien bases and leftovers, old
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ruins and things. So there's a bunch of stuff up there,
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and they don't want to see it. But in the
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moon rising, Hosea's going to be a– I think you
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can get the stuff from Gaia if you want to
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buy it. And it's back in the day when they
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did– because Hosea was a movie producer. What they did
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is they airbrushed stuff out, right? But they didn't blend it.
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They didn't understand the concept of blending it. So they
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just brush out. So you'd see like dome that was
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brushed out. You'd see like a little square building that
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was brushed out. So yes, they brushed out all this
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strange anomalous stuff on the moon, but they just brushed
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out the object. They didn't blend it. So you couldn't tell.
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So you could actually go up there. Do you see
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all these, you know, these strange areas where, you know,
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you can see that it's been blended. It's not been blended,
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but it's been brushed out, but it's not been blended.
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So you can see the silhouette of all the things
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they did. And so there's a lot of ruins and
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other stuff, who knows, maybe an active basis of the moon.
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So would you say that's why what we see of
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the moon landing? may be a fabrication compared to what
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was really there?
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Yeah, the other moon landings are probably more. They could have,
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I don't know if they used the fabrication or they
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actually used the real leads from it. It depends. But
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they did have a film in reserve that they had
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made on thing because my dad was in the NASA thing.
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He actually, I'll tell you how he got into the
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all of Paul. He was the expert on the Thor missile.
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And so he had, so like when Bluegill Prime had
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problems blowing up on the pad, they sent him out
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there to fix that situation. That was vapor lock and
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the kerosene pumps. And then another time when Genie Missile
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kept getting sabotaged, they put him in charge of the
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Genie Missile program and he managed to get around the
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saboteurs who in the end were actually aliens, not commies. And, uh,
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that's another story. And then, but so they sent him
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to the moon. Cause what had happened is they'd, uh, they,
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they were, they couldn't get enough thrust out of the
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Apollo one rocket, the first stage to get to the moon.
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And so they sent my dad there and my dad's
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there was sitting on the table with 12 Germans, you know,
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Warner Von Braun and his, his crew. And he goes up,
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you know, he goes looking at the thing. He says,
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you know, this just looks like a bunch of, uh,
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V ones put together. And Warner Von Braun said, that
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is exactly what it is. But, uh, So they needed
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four more percent thrust out of the rocket engines from
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the Saturn V, but they couldn't get them. And so
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my dad was there six months. And I guess he
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can't really claim, even though he's directing it, the fixing.
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But one day, one of the fuel pumps broke. And
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the drive shaft kind of broke. And so the pump
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was just spinning free in the pipe. And they got
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7% more thrust. So they just got rid of the
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pump and they put in a straight pipe and we
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went to the moon. So I guess, you know, it's
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not quite a heroic way to get to the moon,
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but that's how they, that's the kind of one of
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the barrier that got them to the moon. So they
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got over it, which is missed by accident.
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moon where the astronauts are saying that there are other
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objects kind of following them along.
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the Apollo 17 mission, when the Apollo spacecraft left the
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Earth's moon's gravity and then went into the Earth's gravity,
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because you could listen, ham radio operators could listen in
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on this. And a lot of them recorded it, right?
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So you could actually listen to the Apollo astronauts talking
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to NASA, there wasn't any way they could censor that.
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They'd say things like, oh, we see Santa Claus, you know. Well,
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that worked, you know, exactly. But there was a big transmission.
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Everybody on Earth heard it and said, do not return.
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And so that's why we never went back from Apollo 17.
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And they actually made 20 Apollos. So there was three
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that were sitting around. One of my friends flew on
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one on a special mission. I can't talk about it.
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He can someday. So that takes care of one of them.
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But there still was two Apollos left, and I don't
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know what the Air Force used. The Air Force took that.
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That's why a lot of that NASA stuff disappeared about
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the Apollo stuff. It's because the Air Force went in
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there and cleaned out the documents because they had three
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Apollos left, right? And they used one on a special
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mission that I know of, and they have two others,
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and I don't know what they– they might have used
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those on other missions as well because they 20 were built.
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Maybe someday, though, we'll finally learn about those other three missions,
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which were all classified, of course.
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Well, going back to the NASA blunders, talk a little
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bit about the loss of a Mars orbiter.
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Oh, yeah. It was called the Mars Climate Orbiter. And
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what it is, they were sending it to Mars, of course.
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And Mars, unlike the moon, has an atmosphere. And so
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they have this maneuver called aerobraking. And that's where you
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just barely have the spacecraft touch the top of the atmosphere.
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Because it takes a lot of energy. Like if you
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want to slow down a spacecraft, you'd have to have
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a bigger tank and all that kind of stuff. So
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to get over those limitations, you can just hit the
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very top of the atmosphere just right, and it'll slow
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your spacecraft down. You have a heat shield, right, so
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it doesn't burn up. And it slows your spacecraft down
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just enough to get into orbit. And so that was
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the maneuver they were going to do with the Mars
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Climate Orbiter. But what happened is, you know, Lockheed Martin,
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which is down the street from me here, is they
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have a lot of periodic mergers and acquisitions. And, you know,
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they're corporate, kind of a crooked corporate structure there. And
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so kind of what happened is in one of their
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periodic cost-cutting measures, they basically had fired off all the
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mid-level people who were really the skilled people in it.
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And they had to go elsewhere. And really what they
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were left with is really young kids out of college, right?
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They're going to train up for cheaper labor. And really,
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really old guys that are like running the department, right?
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Or running the division. And the problem is a lot
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of these old guys, they go on the old methods, right?
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They use foot pounds, pre-metric kind of things that we
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used in the 60s and even into the 70s. And
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a foot pound is less than a Newton. Well, the
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metric system uses a Newton, right? Newton metric system. And
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And it's basically the amount of energy it takes to
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raise a kilogram, I believe, one meter. Whereas a foot
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pound is just like it sounds. It takes the amount
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of energy to raise a pound one foot, right? It's
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like a gravitational metric or amount of energy. And so
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what happened is, you know, the guys from JPL, which
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is in California, and they call their younger guys and
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they all use Newtons, right? They're all in the metric system.
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That's their total thing. So to get the insertion orbit,
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the guy from JPL calls up the guy in Lockheed Martin,
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who's just an older than, you know, oldest dirt kind
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of guy who uses foot pounds. And so he says,
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how much thrust do we need to get into orbit?
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in foot pounds. But the young guy doesn't even know
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what foot pounds is or even understands there's that problem.
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So he punches that in newtons. And they don't really
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know what happened to the Mars Climate Orbiter. Did it
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bounce off the atmosphere because it came in too hard
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and bounced off? Or did it burn up in Mars'
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atmosphere and impact the surface somewhere as fragments? We really
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don't know. But that little mistake, that was like a
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$ 300 million mistake or something. And that's not the only one.
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There's also the Mars Polar Lander. Yeah. Yeah, the Mars
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Polar Lander was another one they were going to send there.
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And they were going to kind of land it near
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Mars Poles. Now, the problem is, it comes back to
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my gravitational formulations, is that when Newton was a great guy,
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and what he did is he, you know, math is
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not reality. Math poorly describes reality. And so you have
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to use abstractions. So what Newton did with his formulations
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is he shrunk the entire Earth, its volume and its
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mass into an infinitesimal abstract point, right? It's an abstraction.
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And then let's say we shrink the moon into an
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infinitesimal point. And because we have two infinitesimal points, we
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can actually measure gravity between them, right? But the problem
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with the Newton measure is that from that infinitesimal point,
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a perfectly spherical gravitational field spreads out from it. And
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in the age of sailing ships, that's perfectly fine. But
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in the age of spacecraft, it doesn't work quite so well.
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And for instance, the Earth, because it spins, it's a
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little wider around the equator. then it is between the
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poles because it kind of bulges out, right? But if
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you use Newton's things, a perfectly spherical gravitational field comes
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out with your math, right? That's your math. And obviously,
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the gravitational field is not perfectly spherical. Now, Mars is
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actually more oblate than the Earth. The Earth's about 0.3%.
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Mars is 0.5%. So when they were doing the calculations
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for landing on Mars, I actually went back after the
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Mars polar lander failed and looked at what they were using.
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And they were using strict Newtonian values, right? Which means
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that they were estimating gravity higher than it actually was
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at the area they were landing on Mars near the
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pole there. That's why they call it the Mars pole lander.
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So what happened is when you come into Mars, obviously
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they have, what they do is they come in and
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they have an aerobrake because it's got an atmosphere, right?
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So just kind of like a lot of our stuff.
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So you come in and they have the aerobrake comes
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on And it slows down the craft. And when it
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slows down enough, you have some parachutes pop off. And
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even though Mars atmosphere is thin, the parachutes work. And
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then the craft slows down even more on the parachutes
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until it gets about four kilometers above the surface. And
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then the parachutes kick loose. And then the retro rockets burn.
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And in the Mars polar lander, they were going to
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have the retro rockets burn until they were about, you know,
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somewhere 10 meters above the surface. And then the final
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guidance would come in and would land it.
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Right.
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Well, the problem was if you calculate gravity up to
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a half a percent up, uh, more stronger than it is,
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that means your thrust is more right. You're burning more.
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And so when you, when it finally kicks on the, uh,
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when the, uh, I guess the guidance control kicks on
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a few meters above the surface, instead of being 10
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meters above the surface of Mars, it's now could be
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a hundred meters above 200 meters above the surface of Mars.
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And that basically, uh, we don't really know what happened. Did, uh,
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Did it overcome the mission parameters and the computer just
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shut down? Did it run out of fuel trying to land?
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We don't know. NASA gives a lame excuse, but, you know,
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never a straight answer. So you can't believe that. But
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in the meantime, you know, I knew Dr. Peter Smith,
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and he was running the Phoenix Lander. And it's exactly
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the same as the Mars Polar Lander. I mean, exact
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same platform, couple different instruments. And they're all going to
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land in the same area. So he used to go
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to the Mars Society meetings like I did, and so
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I knew him. We'd go out and sit and drink
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beers with some of the other guys, and they'd talk
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about what the gray aliens they were working with were
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doing in the lab. Sometimes when you get to the
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back things and all the scientists get together and start drinking,
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they tell stories. So that's the ones that are working
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for you. Anyway, alcohol has a way of doing that.
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We're going to have to come back to that later,
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but continue.
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Yeah, but that's so... So they, so I knew him.
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So I gave him, I sent him a letter, you know,
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I gave him a call, sent him a letter with
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all the information. Now he didn't, he couldn't believe that
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JPL and NASA could not get gravity right on Mars.
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But I don't think he used my mathematical formulations. But
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what he did do is when the, when the, unlike
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the Mars polar lander, the minute that, that parachute kicked
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on and the retro rocket engine started four kilometers, he
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made sure that the radar altimeter was working right there.
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He put guidance control. The minute that, the minute that
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that engine turned on guidance control was on. And so
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it guided the spacecraft down and landed on Mars successfully.
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It's exact same platform. Just, just so he just changed
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the programming a little bit because he didn't want it
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to fail.
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Well, this leads to some of the gravitational formulas that
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you discovered. I'd like to hear all about this and
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how you came across it.
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Well, what I did is I was, uh, I was basically,
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I was doing my master's thesis, the retention of magnetic
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fields on rotating terrestrial planets through the actions of a
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close large orbital partner. And basically what it is, is
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if we had the, if the moon were to suddenly
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be here, I guess we're a little close, but basically the,
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if we had the moon, right, the moon, if the
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moon kind of pulls the inner core of the earth
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off center, because the, the earth rotates faster than the
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moon orbits, it causes the inner core of the earth
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to rotate faster than the rest of the planet. And
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that creates the friction and currents that create the Earth's
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magnetic field. In fact, I predicted that the Earth's core
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would rotate faster than the rest of the planet before
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it was actually discovered to do so. Just a little bit.
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There it goes. Actually, I don't think it's posted online.
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I could give it to one of the people out
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there listening who want to get that. I'll send it
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to them for free. I haven't really posted it anywhere.
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So that was how I was doing it. The problem was,
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because Newton has that perfectly spherical gravitation, what I went
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to do, I wanted to put all these whistles and
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bells in it and say, oh, look at this. Here
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it is there. And I discovered that Newton's formulation was
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totally worthless to do any of that because it makes
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these perfectly spherical gravitational fields. And the way they actually
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plot gravity on the Earth's surface is just like a
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fitted curve. They have this formulation with a fitted curve.
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It has nothing to do with any parameters of the Earth.
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And so I started making, I said, oh, I can
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fix this. So I started working on formulations to do it.
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And But my master's thesis, Dr. Wyckoff said, don't do that.
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Your thesis is radical enough without trying to introduce a
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bunch of new gravitational formulations. So I just finished the
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thesis without them. And then I finished up the formulations.
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And they've been around for two and a half decades, okay?
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So it's not like they're, it's nothing new. I have
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them posted on ResearchGate. If you go to my site
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on ResearchGate, just type in my name and you can
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read them there. I'll send you some links. We could
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probably put them in the poster. And all I did
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is I did, it was like Newton. What I did
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is Newton made an infinitesimal point, right? So what I
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did is I turned the planet into an infinitesimal line
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that goes across the planet, the diameter of the planet,
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depending on what angle it is. And so I just
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went from an infinitesimal point to an infinitesimal line. And
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that allows me to get three magnitudes more accurate. So
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you can actually calculate the gravity of Earth or Mars
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or anywhere to almost exact values here. you know, using
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the physical parameters of the planet itself or the physical
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parameters of the moon itself. And so that's just, so
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it's really just another abstraction. And you can derive Newton's
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formulation from my formulation if you break it down. So
473
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it's the same thing.
474
00:24:09.789 --> 00:24:13.390
And these formulations were actually used for a mission to
475
00:24:13.410 --> 00:24:13.730
the moon?
476
00:24:14.789 --> 00:24:17.970
Oh yeah, they used them, but they weren't very accurate.
477
00:24:18.750 --> 00:24:20.970
And so, but in the case, that's why, you know,
478
00:24:21.019 --> 00:24:23.690
when Neil Armstrong, because And that's probably why I should
479
00:24:23.710 --> 00:24:28.319
probably bring in the whole moon thing here is, you know,
480
00:24:28.380 --> 00:24:31.700
although people think the moon is a sphere, it's actually
481
00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:35.240
kind of egg-shaped. And so, you know, the moon is really,
482
00:24:35.380 --> 00:24:37.980
it's egg-shaped. We look at it this way, right? If
483
00:24:38.009 --> 00:24:39.970
we were looking at the moon, it looks round. But
484
00:24:40.009 --> 00:24:41.769
if we were actually in orbit and looked at the moon,
485
00:24:41.789 --> 00:24:44.230
this is, of course, greatly exaggerated. The moon's kind of
486
00:24:44.349 --> 00:24:47.569
egg-shaped with the bigger part of the egg facing the earth, right?
487
00:24:47.589 --> 00:24:49.950
It kind of bulges out. So it's kind of like,
488
00:24:50.049 --> 00:24:53.190
it's what's called a prolate. It's kind of a prolate body.
489
00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:56.960
And so that's kind of how the moon is. And
490
00:24:57.220 --> 00:24:59.319
that's the first thing you got to do for calculating
491
00:24:59.339 --> 00:25:01.359
the gravity on the Earth, because the Earth is oblate.
492
00:25:01.819 --> 00:25:04.079
It's like spins, and so it's wider across the equator
493
00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:06.859
than it is between the poles. But the moon being prolate,
494
00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:10.460
it's farther across the poles than it is across the equator.
495
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And so the first thing you need to do when
496
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:16.319
you're going to land on the moon or any gravitational
497
00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:19.640
locked planet, you have to change the poles. When we
498
00:25:19.660 --> 00:25:21.359
went to the moon and the way that they have
499
00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:22.839
it now, if you look at like a moon globe,
500
00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:25.440
they gave the moon a north pole and a south pole.
501
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:28.630
And then they put latitude and longitudes around that, which is,
502
00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:29.910
you know, because that's the way we do it on
503
00:25:29.930 --> 00:25:33.130
the earth. And it's correct because the earth rotates and
504
00:25:33.150 --> 00:25:34.509
they put the north pole and the south pole at
505
00:25:34.529 --> 00:25:37.710
the rotational axis, right? And then they do the latitude
506
00:25:37.730 --> 00:25:40.009
and longitude from that. Well, which is okay, but the
507
00:25:40.049 --> 00:25:43.289
moon isn't that. The moon's prolate. It's gravitationally locked. And
508
00:25:43.309 --> 00:25:45.309
so when you want to do mapping on the moon,
509
00:25:45.990 --> 00:25:48.789
the poles you want is like the point closest to
510
00:25:48.809 --> 00:25:51.309
the earth, right? That's called the near earth point or
511
00:25:51.349 --> 00:25:54.490
the near planet point. And then the point farthest, the
512
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:56.940
point farthest from the earth, that's the far earth point.
513
00:25:57.339 --> 00:25:59.619
Those are the two poles. And then the equator, like
514
00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:02.599
the edge that we see from the earth is actually
515
00:26:02.619 --> 00:26:06.299
the equator of the moon, right? And so it's kind
516
00:26:06.339 --> 00:26:08.740
of weird doing this because I have to look at
517
00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:10.579
the thing. And so that's what you got to do.
518
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:12.940
So you got to do that. And so first you
519
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:16.289
have to map the moon. So So instead of being,
520
00:26:16.309 --> 00:26:18.890
you know, a moon north-south pole, you've got this equator.
521
00:26:18.910 --> 00:26:23.079
And then you do your latitudes and longitudes from that.
522
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:25.380
And then once you get that, that's the first thing
523
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:27.480
you got to do. You got to remap the moon with,
524
00:26:27.500 --> 00:26:30.259
you know, the near-Earth pole and the far-Earth pole. And
525
00:26:30.299 --> 00:26:32.759
the rim is the equator. And then you can put
526
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:36.359
my math in and land successfully on the moon, which
527
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:39.660
is what the ISRO did. And you remember that there
528
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:42.019
was a big race for the moon here recently, last year.
529
00:26:43.130 --> 00:26:47.509
And it's actually a moral lesson because the first one
530
00:26:47.549 --> 00:26:50.730
was the Indians lost their Chihandra 3 probe, which I
531
00:26:50.769 --> 00:26:54.170
was actually, well, actually what happened is it was, I think,
532
00:26:54.230 --> 00:26:56.730
in March of last year or May of last year,
533
00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:59.619
I think it was May, is that their iSpace had
534
00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:02.579
sent their probe to the moon and it had crashed.
535
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.259
And iSpace is a private Japanese company, but it kind
536
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:10.640
of works with the Japanese government, the U.S. government. You know,
537
00:27:10.660 --> 00:27:13.170
there's kind of a, public private partnership there. And so
538
00:27:13.190 --> 00:27:15.730
we had a crashed. And so I said, Oh man,
539
00:27:15.750 --> 00:27:17.670
I wonder why it did that. And I looked at
540
00:27:17.710 --> 00:27:19.289
it and I said, Oh, these people should, you know,
541
00:27:19.309 --> 00:27:20.829
I figured it was, it was the math they were
542
00:27:20.849 --> 00:27:24.309
doing and, and some, some metrics problems. And so I
543
00:27:24.329 --> 00:27:26.569
should probably con, you know, I should contact. And I
544
00:27:26.609 --> 00:27:29.170
was looking on it and I realized they, their headquarters,
545
00:27:29.210 --> 00:27:30.730
even though it was a Japanese company, it was like
546
00:27:30.730 --> 00:27:34.529
10 miles from where I live. It was out of, uh,
547
00:27:34.589 --> 00:27:39.539
it was out at the airport nearby, uh, centennial airport.
548
00:27:39.619 --> 00:27:42.509
And so, uh, And so I said, well, that's crazy.
549
00:27:42.549 --> 00:27:44.309
So I wrote up the papers and stuff and sent
550
00:27:44.349 --> 00:27:46.970
it and went by and just dropped them off. And
551
00:27:47.490 --> 00:27:49.630
I know they gave it to the, I know it
552
00:27:49.670 --> 00:27:51.289
worked its way up to the, you know, the Japanese
553
00:27:51.329 --> 00:27:53.630
government part of things, whether they use it or not,
554
00:27:53.650 --> 00:27:55.829
because the Japanese did spend a space probe, but maybe
555
00:27:56.049 --> 00:27:58.589
it encouraged them to do it. In the meantime, when
556
00:27:58.630 --> 00:28:01.470
I was doing that, I was looking at and I discovered, whoa,
557
00:28:01.890 --> 00:28:03.569
the Indians are about to spend a space probe to
558
00:28:03.609 --> 00:28:09.089
the moon. And their organization called the ISRO. And it
559
00:28:09.250 --> 00:28:10.910
was going to be like a month two month and
560
00:28:10.930 --> 00:28:14.269
a half away. And, uh, but I'm not going to
561
00:28:14.289 --> 00:28:16.509
tell how, but I have contacts within the Indian space
562
00:28:16.549 --> 00:28:19.250
research organization or people that are associated with that. So
563
00:28:19.730 --> 00:28:22.450
we sent it off to them and, uh, they, uh,
564
00:28:23.490 --> 00:28:25.369
they said, thank you. And they sent us a cool
565
00:28:25.410 --> 00:28:29.630
video of it taking off. That's, uh, yes. Anyway. And, uh,
566
00:28:29.890 --> 00:28:32.410
and so the, the IRS, but the, but the RSO,
567
00:28:32.630 --> 00:28:35.589
the Indians do, you know, things very precision wise. Like
568
00:28:35.609 --> 00:28:38.079
for instance, they, they sent, uh, you know, for that,
569
00:28:38.099 --> 00:28:43.130
remember that cost, uh, interstellar that movie interstellar yeah yeah
570
00:28:43.430 --> 00:28:45.109
i don't know how many hundreds of billions of dollars
571
00:28:45.170 --> 00:28:48.609
it was but the indians actually built a rocket built
572
00:28:48.690 --> 00:28:51.170
a space probe sent it to mars and it's a
573
00:28:51.309 --> 00:28:53.450
an indian has it in orbit it's a weather satellite
574
00:28:53.470 --> 00:28:57.140
in orbit around india for less money than that than
575
00:28:57.180 --> 00:29:01.200
that movie wow so you know the americans make fantasy
576
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:04.319
movies about you know going space because the indians actually
577
00:29:04.339 --> 00:29:06.700
go out and and make something that's real that actually
578
00:29:06.740 --> 00:29:09.240
is there so So they, but they have a very,
579
00:29:09.269 --> 00:29:13.369
they have a different, they have a very methodological way
580
00:29:13.410 --> 00:29:14.950
of doing it. So what they did is when they
581
00:29:14.990 --> 00:29:16.430
took it off in the earth, it went around the
582
00:29:16.490 --> 00:29:19.250
earth like four or five times, each time getting a
583
00:29:19.309 --> 00:29:22.829
little bit more energy till finally it went to the moon.
584
00:29:23.730 --> 00:29:25.710
And then it was, it was going four or five
585
00:29:25.769 --> 00:29:28.049
times around the moon before it was, you know, slowing
586
00:29:28.089 --> 00:29:31.349
down gradually adjusting. And before it came down to land
587
00:29:31.390 --> 00:29:34.920
successfully near the moon's quote South pole, actually it's the, uh,
588
00:29:35.269 --> 00:29:38.910
the lower quadrant to the equator. But uh, that's, that's,
589
00:29:38.950 --> 00:29:41.240
you know, that's what the, so I, I'd sent them about,
590
00:29:41.259 --> 00:29:43.240
you know, cause the key is the mapping. You got
591
00:29:43.259 --> 00:29:46.059
to map the moon correctly and with the near earth
592
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:48.420
pole and the far earth pole. And, uh, and then
593
00:29:48.460 --> 00:29:50.400
you can do the mass, any mass would work better,
594
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:51.920
but you got to do the mapping first. And, but
595
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:54.799
in the meantime, the Russians had spies in the Indian
596
00:29:54.819 --> 00:29:58.099
space or research organization. And they had discovered the new,
597
00:29:58.460 --> 00:30:00.319
they already had the new formulations, but they didn't know
598
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.500
how to map the moon correctly and that kind of stuff.
599
00:30:04.549 --> 00:30:06.690
So they decided they were going to beat the Indians
600
00:30:06.750 --> 00:30:09.470
to the moon. So they pulled this space probe that they,
601
00:30:10.369 --> 00:30:13.349
lunar lander they'd had sitting on, sitting gathering dust for
602
00:30:13.369 --> 00:30:15.799
like 10 years or whatever. And they stuck it on
603
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.279
a rocket and they launched it straight at the moon, right?
604
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:20.680
They didn't take any four or five orbits. And they
605
00:30:20.700 --> 00:30:22.779
were going to race the Indians to the south pole
606
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:25.250
of the moon and land successfully. But when they were
607
00:30:25.289 --> 00:30:27.589
trying to insert around the moon, I guess they got
608
00:30:27.630 --> 00:30:30.650
into one orbit, and then they were going to fire
609
00:30:30.670 --> 00:30:33.759
the rockets. And this is what they said what happened
610
00:30:33.819 --> 00:30:36.359
is that they, is that, because, you know, all the
611
00:30:36.380 --> 00:30:38.599
guys that worked on it had gone away, right? They'd
612
00:30:38.619 --> 00:30:40.519
been gone for 10 years, right? They went on another job.
613
00:30:40.539 --> 00:30:42.539
So they had these other guys running it. And they
614
00:30:42.579 --> 00:30:45.299
say there was a software glitch. And instead of burning like,
615
00:30:45.339 --> 00:30:48.460
you know, 37 seconds or whatever it was, it burnt
616
00:30:48.509 --> 00:30:52.269
like 108 seconds. And so what happened is basically impacted
617
00:30:52.309 --> 00:30:54.089
on the surface of the moon. They couldn't, do a
618
00:30:54.150 --> 00:30:56.750
double insert. And so, so it was kind of like the,
619
00:30:56.809 --> 00:30:59.490
the tortoise and the hare. The Indians were like the
620
00:30:59.529 --> 00:31:02.380
tortoise and successfully crossed the finish line where the Russians
621
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:05.740
were like the hare and crashed their spacecraft to the moon.
622
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:07.539
So it was a, but Putin was good about it
623
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.720
and congratulated the Indians. So that was it. And then
624
00:31:10.740 --> 00:31:14.200
in the meantime, which is, uh, the Japanese sent that,
625
00:31:14.269 --> 00:31:17.150
they pulled their spacecraft, their, their lunar lander out of
626
00:31:17.450 --> 00:31:20.490
mothballs and sent it to the moon. And, uh, we're
627
00:31:20.509 --> 00:31:23.140
going to land near the South pole of the moon, but, uh,
628
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:26.160
But what happened is we don't know whether they used
629
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:28.460
the math or not or the mapping of the moon
630
00:31:28.500 --> 00:31:31.930
or not. Because what happened is the thing was landing.
631
00:31:32.509 --> 00:31:40.650
The Japanese were using these ceramic metallic thrusters on the
632
00:31:40.730 --> 00:31:42.690
little nozzles on the end of the rocket engines. And
633
00:31:42.750 --> 00:31:47.000
one of them apparently snapped off several meters above landing.
634
00:31:47.059 --> 00:31:51.839
And so the probe tried to adjust, but it ended
635
00:31:51.940 --> 00:31:57.859
up upside down. which is unfortunate. But the other one,
636
00:31:58.140 --> 00:32:00.059
the people that never listen to us, which is NASA,
637
00:32:00.099 --> 00:32:01.880
so we don't even waste time talking to those losers,
638
00:32:02.420 --> 00:32:04.980
because they're all about, you know, I don't have a PhD.
639
00:32:05.019 --> 00:32:06.900
I just have a master's. So, you know, and who
640
00:32:06.940 --> 00:32:09.460
are we? And so they didn't, of course, listen to us,
641
00:32:09.500 --> 00:32:12.640
never will. And the U.S. military, of course, uses my math.
642
00:32:12.769 --> 00:32:15.609
That's another thing. That's another story. But anyway, for their
643
00:32:15.630 --> 00:32:18.849
ballistic missiles, I mean, without my math, no anti-satellite missile
644
00:32:18.869 --> 00:32:23.809
system works, basically. Or anti-missile missile system. Anyway, that's another thing. Remember,
645
00:32:23.829 --> 00:32:26.970
this thing's over two and a half decades old. And
646
00:32:27.009 --> 00:32:30.970
that stuff happened decades ago. So what happened is when
647
00:32:31.109 --> 00:32:33.150
they were sent, they sent, there was a public-private thing
648
00:32:33.170 --> 00:32:36.710
called the Odyssey moon lander. And so it was going
649
00:32:36.730 --> 00:32:38.109
to come in and land at the moon. But the
650
00:32:38.130 --> 00:32:41.930
problem is if gravity near the, quote, south pole of
651
00:32:41.950 --> 00:32:44.109
the moon, which is the lower quadrant of the equator,
652
00:32:44.549 --> 00:32:47.930
is actually higher than what you would calculate using Newtonian.
653
00:32:49.329 --> 00:32:52.880
And so there is no atmosphere on the moon to
654
00:32:52.890 --> 00:32:55.450
slow you down. So they have nothing but electronics. So
655
00:32:55.470 --> 00:32:58.240
what's going to happen is they put radar altimeters on
656
00:32:58.259 --> 00:33:00.420
the spacecraft, right, that tells it how far above the
657
00:33:00.460 --> 00:33:04.440
moon it is. But it can't adjust for horizontal motion.
658
00:33:05.420 --> 00:33:09.339
So when you make gravity higher than it actually is, right,
659
00:33:09.819 --> 00:33:12.319
it's like you made the surface come up. So what
660
00:33:12.339 --> 00:33:13.579
you want to do when you come down and land,
661
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:15.759
you want to make sure your horizontal and vertical motion
662
00:33:15.779 --> 00:33:18.509
are perfectly zero. and you hit exactly right, and you
663
00:33:18.529 --> 00:33:21.009
land successfully. Well, if you make it come up higher,
664
00:33:21.450 --> 00:33:23.710
you can, you with the radar altimeter, you can adjust
665
00:33:23.750 --> 00:33:26.589
the vertical thing, but you can't adjust the horizontal speed.
666
00:33:27.130 --> 00:33:30.410
So the spacecraft came in with some horizontal speed, and
667
00:33:30.569 --> 00:33:33.799
it just fell off on its side. That's why the
668
00:33:33.930 --> 00:33:36.180
Odyssey fell over its side, because they couldn't adjust, because
669
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.619
they don't know how to do gravitational form. They don't
670
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:40.819
know how to do, calculate gravity correctly on the moon.
671
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.500
So they couldn't adjust for horizontal motion, and of course
672
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.740
they crashed on its side. And that's actually why a
673
00:33:45.740 --> 00:33:50.819
lot of lunar spacecraft have failed on the moon because
674
00:33:50.859 --> 00:33:53.619
they can't really, they can't calculate gravity. In fact, when
675
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:58.359
the Apollo, the first space landing on the moon, right,
676
00:33:58.420 --> 00:34:01.799
when Neil Armstrong was landing, they had more gravity because
677
00:34:01.859 --> 00:34:04.039
if you're actually on the near point of the earth,
678
00:34:04.099 --> 00:34:07.920
which is where they landed near here, there's actually, gravity
679
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:13.159
is actually lower than what is estimated by Newton's formulations.
680
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.679
And so that was the extra fuel because he had to,
681
00:34:16.070 --> 00:34:17.889
he was coming down to land and there was all
682
00:34:17.929 --> 00:34:20.469
these boulders and rocks in the way. And so he
683
00:34:20.510 --> 00:34:22.090
had to move it to another space. And they said,
684
00:34:22.110 --> 00:34:23.809
where did the extra fuel come from? It should have
685
00:34:23.829 --> 00:34:26.250
run out of fuel and crash. Well, that's because gravity
686
00:34:26.269 --> 00:34:30.590
was less. And so anyway, that's the, that's the story
687
00:34:30.650 --> 00:34:32.289
of it. And that's why we landed successfully on the
688
00:34:32.309 --> 00:34:35.269
moon the first time, just because they couldn't calculate gravity correctly.
689
00:34:35.309 --> 00:34:37.409
If they'd actually done it, they might've had to abort
690
00:34:37.429 --> 00:34:37.969
the mission, but.
691
00:34:38.489 --> 00:34:42.429
Well, I'd love to get your thoughts on some theories
692
00:34:42.489 --> 00:34:45.429
that I've heard over the years about the moon, about
693
00:34:45.550 --> 00:34:48.809
what the moon could be. I've heard everything from it
694
00:34:48.989 --> 00:34:53.809
may be an artificial satellite that was not always here to,
695
00:34:53.929 --> 00:34:57.449
of course, it being hollow in the center and maybe
696
00:34:57.510 --> 00:35:02.550
contains some sort of life forms or humanoids that reside there.
697
00:35:02.929 --> 00:35:04.159
What are your thoughts on some of these?
698
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:08.159
Well, I don't know if you know the Future Forecasting Group. right?
699
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:09.139
Dick Allgaier.
700
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:09.599
Oh yeah.
701
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:09.920
Yeah.
702
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:10.719
Yeah.
703
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:12.460
They, they did a recent one on that. You can
704
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:14.219
go on YouTube and they have part of it. Of
705
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:16.360
course you have to go become a private member to
706
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:20.320
see it all. And they actually discovered a granite Pluton
707
00:35:20.420 --> 00:35:23.389
in the moon, which is kind of unusual because we
708
00:35:23.429 --> 00:35:26.670
have granite Plutons here and they're, you know, they make
709
00:35:26.690 --> 00:35:29.090
the big mountains, but they form underneath the surface and
710
00:35:29.110 --> 00:35:31.650
then they kind of move up and solidify. But they
711
00:35:31.690 --> 00:35:33.349
also have a lot of water in them because water
712
00:35:33.389 --> 00:35:35.579
has to be associated with it. So they, went and
713
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.199
looked at a crater right above where this granite pluton,
714
00:35:38.219 --> 00:35:41.150
because it's also warmer, because the plutons, they tend to
715
00:35:41.190 --> 00:35:44.110
have potassium in it. They take a lot of the potassium,
716
00:35:44.130 --> 00:35:47.190
and potassium is radioactive. There's a lot of potassium-40, so
717
00:35:47.210 --> 00:35:48.789
it's kind of, it gets a lot of, so it
718
00:35:48.809 --> 00:35:50.550
was more radioactive than the rest of the moon, and
719
00:35:50.570 --> 00:35:53.239
it was also warmer, and they could actually tell that by,
720
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:56.099
you know, their surveys of the surface. But also, when
721
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.500
the granite pluton forms, you should have water and sulfur
722
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:01.820
dioxide and other things coming off the surface, which if
723
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:03.800
in the moon, they could have gone up, you know,
724
00:36:03.820 --> 00:36:05.539
they kind of be like hot water veins going up.
725
00:36:06.070 --> 00:36:08.690
And then they probably like deposit when they hit a
726
00:36:08.730 --> 00:36:11.670
colder surface above the moon, they would deposit. So there
727
00:36:11.690 --> 00:36:13.650
might be ice deposits deep under, and they did a
728
00:36:13.670 --> 00:36:16.940
thing and they saw these humanoid people living in like
729
00:36:17.019 --> 00:36:21.400
a industrial plant down there. So it's, it's, I don't
730
00:36:21.420 --> 00:36:23.460
know what the name it's on the, which, which would
731
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:25.619
be exactly because if you wanted to look for minerals
732
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:30.900
and metals and, and gases such as, you know, Uh, water,
733
00:36:31.139 --> 00:36:32.699
you could get water and all that. That would be
734
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:34.179
the place you want to be. So they saw some
735
00:36:34.219 --> 00:36:37.159
sort of underground mining going on and, uh, which would,
736
00:36:37.179 --> 00:36:38.679
which makes sense because if you were going to do
737
00:36:38.699 --> 00:36:40.579
mining on the moon, that's the only place you would
738
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.860
do it. So deep mining. So they were probably going to.
739
00:36:44.739 --> 00:36:47.320
We've got to get to the aliens. I heard you
740
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:50.199
mention earlier scientists that may have had a little bit
741
00:36:50.219 --> 00:36:53.230
too much to drink and say too much talking about
742
00:36:53.510 --> 00:36:56.150
working with gray extraterrestrials. Is that correct?
743
00:36:56.579 --> 00:36:59.739
No, they were just government agents, people that worked in
744
00:36:59.780 --> 00:37:03.679
the government laboratories and stuff. Yeah, they have interactions with them,
745
00:37:04.650 --> 00:37:09.210
and they were sharing technology. The little extraterrestrials would share technology.
746
00:37:09.250 --> 00:37:13.969
They're kind of like disposable units. They're like clone units.
747
00:37:15.489 --> 00:37:18.329
So the real masters don't come down and probably hang
748
00:37:18.349 --> 00:37:21.170
out with the earthlings, but they send their kind of
749
00:37:22.030 --> 00:37:24.030
bio-bots down to work with humans.
750
00:37:25.010 --> 00:37:30.030
Right. Now, you sent me also an incident about how
751
00:37:30.110 --> 00:37:35.010
possibly aliens sabotage the Genie Missile Program. Oh, yeah.
752
00:37:35.150 --> 00:37:38.170
Yeah, that's kind of a funny program. Yeah, the Genie
753
00:37:38.190 --> 00:37:41.219
Missile Program, and you can, in fact, I'll send a link.
754
00:37:41.860 --> 00:37:43.619
You can go online to YouTube, and you can see
755
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.440
my dad fly wing. He's the wingman on when they
756
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:50.840
launched it. It was an air-to-air missile, and it had
757
00:37:50.860 --> 00:37:54.230
a three-kiloton nuke on it. And it could be fired
758
00:37:54.269 --> 00:37:57.829
from the bottom of a jet at another aircraft. And allegedly,
759
00:37:57.889 --> 00:38:02.219
they were going to be used to shoot down Soviet
760
00:38:02.260 --> 00:38:05.699
bombers because the Soviets were going to fly their bombers
761
00:38:06.219 --> 00:38:09.119
in fleets, right, into the United States, and they would
762
00:38:09.139 --> 00:38:10.639
fire one of these genies and it would blow up
763
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.340
the whole fleet of Soviet bombers. Not that the Soviets
764
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.750
would be that stupid. You know, they would fly them separately.
765
00:38:16.010 --> 00:38:17.809
And the problem is the Soviets didn't even have 100
766
00:38:17.809 --> 00:38:21.610
bombers at the time, yet they made 3,000 genie missiles, right?
767
00:38:21.630 --> 00:38:21.829
Right.
768
00:38:22.530 --> 00:38:25.210
So, so the, the claim is what it is, but, uh,
769
00:38:25.570 --> 00:38:27.889
let us say that they were designed to shoot down
770
00:38:27.949 --> 00:38:31.050
flying saucers because they figure even if they couldn't do anything,
771
00:38:31.090 --> 00:38:33.789
if you could, you know, they can't, you know, it's like, uh,
772
00:38:33.849 --> 00:38:36.010
horseshoes and hand grenades, you know, if you get close,
773
00:38:36.030 --> 00:38:38.949
you get some points. So that's basically why it was built.
774
00:38:39.530 --> 00:38:41.250
But my dad didn't know about that at the time
775
00:38:41.289 --> 00:38:44.280
and everything, but to the G missile project. So it was, uh,
776
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.320
you know, they were building it and it had been, uh,
777
00:38:46.420 --> 00:38:49.480
sabotaged again and again. And so my dad had been
778
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:51.880
like the special on the Thor missile, which is, uh,
779
00:38:53.050 --> 00:38:55.730
and ran that program to help that thing and Bluegill Prime.
780
00:38:55.750 --> 00:38:57.210
So they put him in there because he'd kind of
781
00:38:57.230 --> 00:38:59.670
run programs to do that. And so his thing, he
782
00:38:59.710 --> 00:39:01.110
knew it was going to be sabotaged. It had been
783
00:39:01.130 --> 00:39:03.639
sabotaged before a couple of times. So what he did
784
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.780
is he had two missiles being built. He had like
785
00:39:05.820 --> 00:39:08.840
the public missile that everybody could see behind glass and
786
00:39:08.900 --> 00:39:10.619
the people out there working on it. And he had
787
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:12.780
another missile being built in a back room and he's
788
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:14.199
the only one that had a key to the door
789
00:39:14.780 --> 00:39:17.949
and had pretty heavy security on that. So when they
790
00:39:17.989 --> 00:39:20.030
work on the first missile, they get it working and
791
00:39:20.070 --> 00:39:22.539
everything running and then they would secretly go to the
792
00:39:22.579 --> 00:39:25.030
second room and and put it in which made it
793
00:39:25.070 --> 00:39:26.730
go faster because it's you know they'd already got some
794
00:39:26.750 --> 00:39:29.309
experience and so finally you know you had the two
795
00:39:29.349 --> 00:39:31.250
missiles were built finally it was like the day before
796
00:39:31.289 --> 00:39:33.309
it was going to be used and of course that
797
00:39:33.349 --> 00:39:36.050
was the day that they knew that uh they were
798
00:39:36.070 --> 00:39:37.949
going to the saboteurs were going to kind of go
799
00:39:38.050 --> 00:39:41.219
after it right and so they put the kind of
800
00:39:41.260 --> 00:39:44.659
the the the the public missile out now it'd been
801
00:39:44.699 --> 00:39:46.980
on several pallets out in this public place and they
802
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:48.639
had some you know it was in a concrete place
803
00:39:48.659 --> 00:39:51.690
with strings And they had put like warning tape and
804
00:39:51.789 --> 00:39:55.570
barriers and stuff all around it. But it was like bait, right?
805
00:39:56.090 --> 00:39:59.510
It was bait because they had the real missile hidden
806
00:39:59.570 --> 00:40:01.480
away and this is the bait missile so the saboteurs
807
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.559
would go after the bait and not go after the
808
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:06.420
real one, right? So they just were planning. And so
809
00:40:06.940 --> 00:40:10.760
they had put up tape and barrier signs and fences
810
00:40:10.820 --> 00:40:13.780
and all this stuff, right? Which made it virtually impossible
811
00:40:13.820 --> 00:40:15.480
for anybody to get to the missile, right? You'd have
812
00:40:15.500 --> 00:40:19.239
to work pretty hard at it. And, but... But this
813
00:40:19.260 --> 00:40:21.989
is what happened. During the night, one of the guys
814
00:40:22.050 --> 00:40:24.429
in the warehouse, right, that moved things around, he got
815
00:40:24.469 --> 00:40:27.550
this sudden urge. He needed to get the pallets from
816
00:40:27.750 --> 00:40:32.170
underneath the missile, right? That was the excuse he did,
817
00:40:32.469 --> 00:40:35.789
even though there were pallets available in the warehouse. So what?
818
00:40:36.250 --> 00:40:38.190
And so this guy goes up in there, and he
819
00:40:38.210 --> 00:40:41.449
removes all the tape and the barriers and stuff, right?
820
00:40:41.530 --> 00:40:44.280
And there was guards around the second missile's room, but
821
00:40:44.300 --> 00:40:46.500
they didn't have any guards around the bait missile, right?
822
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:48.940
Because that's how you do things. And so the guy
823
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:51.000
goes in there and he removes all the barriers and
824
00:40:51.019 --> 00:40:52.820
stuff and the tape and tests and do a whole
825
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:54.659
bunch of work to do this. Go past the signs.
826
00:40:54.980 --> 00:40:56.320
Do not touch this missile.
827
00:40:56.340 --> 00:40:56.599
Go.
828
00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:00.030
Do not go away. Stay away. You know, whatever. And
829
00:41:00.050 --> 00:41:01.710
then he goes in there to lift the missile off
830
00:41:01.750 --> 00:41:03.469
to get the pallet. And, of course, the missile tips
831
00:41:03.570 --> 00:41:08.110
off and falls and gets damaged. And then the general
832
00:41:08.150 --> 00:41:09.909
comes in the next day and says, oh, my God,
833
00:41:09.929 --> 00:41:12.679
my career is over. The missile is destroyed. Oh, what
834
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:14.019
am I going to do? And my dad says, oh,
835
00:41:14.059 --> 00:41:16.559
don't worry. That's just the show missile. This is the
836
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:18.719
real missile. And he goes in and he opens the
837
00:41:18.739 --> 00:41:20.480
door and shows it to him. He didn't even told
838
00:41:20.500 --> 00:41:22.719
the general running the program who was, my dad was
839
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:24.929
a major back then who, what was really going on
840
00:41:24.969 --> 00:41:26.869
because he didn't know where the bleak was.
841
00:41:26.929 --> 00:41:27.130
Right.
842
00:41:27.670 --> 00:41:30.070
And of course this warehouse guy, you know, that runs
843
00:41:30.090 --> 00:41:34.309
the forklift, they, they took him away and probably subjected
844
00:41:34.349 --> 00:41:39.369
him to enhanced interrogation techniques. And, and the thing was
845
00:41:39.389 --> 00:41:42.710
when they were done in ants, enhanced interrogating him, they
846
00:41:42.769 --> 00:41:45.909
could not figure out he wasn't being paid by the commies.
847
00:41:46.340 --> 00:41:49.719
He wasn't being... They just couldn't find any reason. It's
848
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:55.289
like somebody took over his mind and had him do that.
849
00:41:56.010 --> 00:41:57.809
And probably what it is, if we could dig up
850
00:41:57.849 --> 00:42:00.409
his carcass, wherever it is, if he did get buried
851
00:42:00.449 --> 00:42:02.469
and look at his brain, I'll bet you'd find some
852
00:42:02.510 --> 00:42:05.800
sort of chips. Because, you know, this missile was made
853
00:42:05.860 --> 00:42:09.019
basically to shoot down flying saucers in alien spacecraft. It
854
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:11.000
had been... It was a nuclear missile. It had been
855
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:14.159
sabotaged time and time again. And then it got sabotaged
856
00:42:14.179 --> 00:42:14.699
the last one.
857
00:42:14.739 --> 00:42:14.880
But.
858
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:18.420
My dad outwitted the aliens. So if you can go online,
859
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.019
I'll give you the link. And you can, I think
860
00:42:20.059 --> 00:42:21.760
I gave it to you earlier. And you can actually
861
00:42:21.780 --> 00:42:24.000
see him fly wingmen because he thought, because some of
862
00:42:24.019 --> 00:42:26.599
the guys that worked in the program all, because they
863
00:42:26.619 --> 00:42:27.980
were going to blow it up in the air. It
864
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:30.570
launched from an aircraft and then it blows up in
865
00:42:30.590 --> 00:42:33.690
the high altitude, like, I don't know, 20,000 feet or whatever.
866
00:42:34.110 --> 00:42:36.429
So these guys all decided to get on ground zero
867
00:42:36.489 --> 00:42:40.010
on the ground and have like a party. And then
868
00:42:40.309 --> 00:42:43.780
the missile would blow up above them. My dad thought
869
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:45.889
that was kind of stupid. He'd rather be in the airplane.
870
00:42:46.219 --> 00:42:49.809
Up high where he was in control because he was
871
00:42:49.829 --> 00:42:53.090
an old fire pilot and transport pilot for the back.
872
00:42:53.349 --> 00:42:55.829
So he was up there flying the wingman on the
873
00:42:55.869 --> 00:42:59.010
guy that actually launched the missile. You could actually see
874
00:42:59.030 --> 00:43:02.909
the fools down there at ground zero. They have their
875
00:43:03.050 --> 00:43:06.320
glasses on and there's the big explosion. They get out
876
00:43:06.340 --> 00:43:08.860
their cigars and start smoking. The general figured that was
877
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:14.909
a bad idea too. it was younger officers who had more,
878
00:43:15.150 --> 00:43:18.510
had more balls than sense. So that's how, yeah, that
879
00:43:18.530 --> 00:43:22.550
was like one sabotage operation that, uh, that the aliens
880
00:43:22.610 --> 00:43:23.030
didn't get.
881
00:43:23.909 --> 00:43:27.760
Now, could it have been possible that it may have
882
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:31.159
just been a foreign adversary that was using some kind
883
00:43:31.260 --> 00:43:33.139
of technology to influence it?
884
00:43:33.739 --> 00:43:37.239
That was the fifties, right? Late fifties. And, uh, there
885
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:39.659
was really wasn't anybody that had any technology like that,
886
00:43:39.699 --> 00:43:42.170
or even like the, the mind control, all this stuff,
887
00:43:42.190 --> 00:43:44.929
because we have our guys. We had the Frankfurt School
888
00:43:44.989 --> 00:43:50.210
and the MKUltra dudes back then. So they definitely, some
889
00:43:50.230 --> 00:43:53.860
of them, and some ex-Nazis probably, they kept, we have
890
00:43:53.889 --> 00:43:58.500
ways of interrogating you correctly. So they worked the guy
891
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:00.760
over and they couldn't, there was nothing there. It was
892
00:44:00.820 --> 00:44:03.760
not a foreign adversary. And they made 3,000 of these things, right?
893
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:06.559
With the nukes on the little tip on them. The
894
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.539
Russians didn't have 100 bombers. Right. So why do you
895
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:10.739
make need 3000 of them?
896
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:11.000
Right.
897
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:14.940
So, yeah, it was definitely designed to fight alien invasion,
898
00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:19.699
you know, cause you could fire nukes at them. And, uh, so, but, uh,
899
00:44:19.780 --> 00:44:21.400
so that, you know, so it did go through and
900
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:24.940
we could get our little anti-flying saucer nukes. So, so
901
00:44:24.980 --> 00:44:26.179
it was successful in that case.
902
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:30.659
Well, while we're in alien territory, still, I've heard all
903
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:36.369
the theories about how our military is possibly involved with
904
00:44:36.550 --> 00:44:41.800
extraterrestrial intelligence. But I'd love to hear your thoughts on
905
00:44:41.940 --> 00:44:46.139
how long we've possibly had this relationship and what's the
906
00:44:46.179 --> 00:44:49.099
benefit to them, to the extraterrestrials.
907
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.349
Well, I think there's a whole bunch of different extraterrestrials.
908
00:44:52.510 --> 00:44:54.469
I have, we could talk, I didn't really get into
909
00:44:54.710 --> 00:44:56.449
those books. We could pull out the, it's called the
910
00:44:56.510 --> 00:44:59.969
Friendship Case. Yeah, I've heard about the Friendship Case. Yeah,
911
00:45:00.030 --> 00:45:02.070
that's probably one. And that one, you know, you have
912
00:45:02.210 --> 00:45:07.159
several different groups and they're all fighting each other, you know, over,
913
00:45:07.449 --> 00:45:08.929
you know, they have the human agents. A lot of
914
00:45:08.969 --> 00:45:10.710
them have human agents, cause you can't do that. Like,
915
00:45:10.750 --> 00:45:12.170
and they have one group was the agents of the
916
00:45:12.230 --> 00:45:14.969
Reptoids probably. And then they have these other humans or
917
00:45:15.110 --> 00:45:17.809
agents for others and they're all battling, you know, it's,
918
00:45:18.570 --> 00:45:21.449
but sometimes they work together, right? For things that, so
919
00:45:21.489 --> 00:45:24.809
you didn't really know, it's several groups, what it is.
920
00:45:24.869 --> 00:45:26.710
It's not just one. It's kind of, I mean, imagine,
921
00:45:27.150 --> 00:45:30.389
you know, as so above, so below, as without, so within,
922
00:45:30.409 --> 00:45:32.809
you know, that kind of thing. And so I think,
923
00:45:32.829 --> 00:45:34.550
you know, the earth is like one of those third
924
00:45:34.570 --> 00:45:39.309
world countries Maybe an island country, right, during the Cold War.
925
00:45:40.170 --> 00:45:42.800
And so you've got, like, you've got the Soviets, right,
926
00:45:42.889 --> 00:45:46.179
and the Americans are, you know, trying to get control
927
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:49.639
of that country for its resources and strategic value. But
928
00:45:49.659 --> 00:45:53.039
then you also got things like the British and the Chinese, right,
929
00:45:53.579 --> 00:45:57.679
and maybe corporations. So you get all of these multiple corporations. So,
930
00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:00.900
you know, the Americans and the British probably work together sometimes, right,
931
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.159
to fight off the Soviet stuff. But, you know, there
932
00:46:04.179 --> 00:46:06.760
might be corporate interest where British corporations aren't going to be,
933
00:46:07.099 --> 00:46:08.659
are going to be wanting to do different things. So
934
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:11.420
they'll be at, sometimes they'll be in conflicts. So I
935
00:46:11.460 --> 00:46:14.119
think it's something very similar to that, where you have multiple,
936
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:18.860
multiple species and each one has various agendas. And some
937
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:20.579
of the agendas are just, you know, screwing the other
938
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:23.300
ones over and preventing them from getting, you know, a foothold.
939
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:26.510
So it's really hard to tell other than, you know,
940
00:46:26.550 --> 00:46:29.130
you read these stories and obviously they're fighting each other
941
00:46:29.210 --> 00:46:32.039
on the earth, but then they also have a, have a,
942
00:46:32.070 --> 00:46:35.090
you know, things to keep the humans under control. So
943
00:46:35.349 --> 00:46:37.949
there's things that they agree with, things they disagree with,
944
00:46:37.989 --> 00:46:41.519
but they're definitely in competition, sometimes deadly competition with each other,
945
00:46:41.539 --> 00:46:46.760
but sometimes they cooperate on other things. So it's sort
946
00:46:46.780 --> 00:46:49.000
of like that. So it's sort of like an extraterrestrial
947
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:50.719
Cold War kind of situation going on.
948
00:46:51.099 --> 00:46:54.159
I've heard you mention the tall whites before, and I
949
00:46:54.219 --> 00:47:00.619
think you've witnessed these beings being escorted somewhere and They
950
00:47:00.659 --> 00:47:04.679
were very confrontational, didn't want to be touched by whoever
951
00:47:04.739 --> 00:47:06.960
they were being escorted. Is that right?
952
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:09.460
Yeah, no, that's, that's, no, that's one, that's another group.
953
00:47:09.699 --> 00:47:11.119
I'm not really too familiar with them.
954
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:12.039
Okay.
955
00:47:12.380 --> 00:47:15.099
Once when I was in Bata, but, uh, but they're,
956
00:47:15.139 --> 00:47:18.840
they just, they have, uh, evidently their planet or rotates
957
00:47:18.900 --> 00:47:22.909
exactly takes twice as long to rotate as ours. So
958
00:47:22.929 --> 00:47:25.269
their day is twice as virtually twice as long as ours.
959
00:47:25.829 --> 00:47:27.789
And so they seem to have, they've been around forever
960
00:47:27.829 --> 00:47:29.809
and they do seem to work with the U S government.
961
00:47:30.710 --> 00:47:34.070
But they don't seem to be the most advanced kinds.
962
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.800
And Jay Widener saw one of them in the Denver airport.
963
00:47:39.099 --> 00:47:41.059
Right. I think that's the story you were telling me,
964
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:46.949
how they were with some government-looking officials being escorted somewhere.
965
00:47:46.969 --> 00:47:49.929
Jay Widener could do that. But basically, it was a female.
966
00:47:50.050 --> 00:47:52.829
The problem is they come from a planet with low gravity.
967
00:47:53.750 --> 00:47:55.989
And so they really struggle on Earth. Even the ones
968
00:47:56.010 --> 00:47:58.250
that was born there, that's probably the one that was born.
969
00:47:58.289 --> 00:47:59.949
She actually works for the U.S. government, I think for
970
00:47:59.969 --> 00:48:02.949
the CIA or something. She was born in the time
971
00:48:02.989 --> 00:48:05.909
of Jeff. They live like 800 years or something. And
972
00:48:05.929 --> 00:48:08.659
she was born in the time of President Adams on Earth.
973
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:12.840
So I guess she's an American citizen. Maybe in this case,
974
00:48:12.860 --> 00:48:19.019
a legal alien now. So that was probably her because
975
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:21.980
they just have a hard time dealing with Earth's gravity,
976
00:48:22.019 --> 00:48:23.619
even if they were born here. It's just they're not
977
00:48:23.739 --> 00:48:24.860
really designed well for it.
978
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:29.579
You think at the top of these feuding, powerful families
979
00:48:30.219 --> 00:48:34.920
that there is some sort of extraterrestrial race above them
980
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:36.050
kind of pulling strings?
981
00:48:37.340 --> 00:48:39.389
Yeah, well, there's the one they have. One of the
982
00:48:39.510 --> 00:48:44.050
technologies they have is a technology that can extend their
983
00:48:44.090 --> 00:48:47.650
lifespan to centuries and human lifespans as well. And so
984
00:48:48.030 --> 00:48:52.139
in the friendship case, they have the W56s, which is
985
00:48:52.219 --> 00:48:54.760
the good guys, supposedly, but they're actually not so good guys.
986
00:48:54.820 --> 00:48:57.900
And then there's the other, the Contras, the bad guys
987
00:48:57.940 --> 00:49:01.539
who are not so bad guys. And anyway, these guys,
988
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:04.900
the interesting thing is that the hierarchy is by height.
989
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:07.300
And so they have this technology. And there's even a
990
00:49:07.340 --> 00:49:09.429
guy that got kicked out of their organization. He didn't
991
00:49:09.449 --> 00:49:12.769
really go high. And like Kastronov and Fitz talks about
992
00:49:12.789 --> 00:49:17.690
this one, these same people, is you have a technology
993
00:49:17.730 --> 00:49:20.059
that can keep you eternally young, but it has a
994
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.920
side effect, is that it causes your growth plates in
995
00:49:22.940 --> 00:49:27.079
your bones to reactivate. So every year you live, you
996
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.570
get a little bit taller. It's like a crocodilian growth.
997
00:49:31.909 --> 00:49:33.050
And see, that's one of the things. So when you
998
00:49:33.070 --> 00:49:35.349
look at their, and they probably work for one of
999
00:49:35.369 --> 00:49:39.389
the reptoid groups, this particular ones, and in the Italian case,
1000
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:41.699
And so like the top guy was over 10 feet
1001
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:43.980
tall and he was the boss. Or no, he was
1002
00:49:44.019 --> 00:49:45.500
like 12 feet tall. And then there's some guys that
1003
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:47.619
are like 10 feet tall. They're like second in charge.
1004
00:49:47.659 --> 00:49:49.780
And then guys are eight feet tall. And then so
1005
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:52.989
the hierarchy in the organization is entirely due to height.
1006
00:49:53.630 --> 00:49:55.650
We don't see that in human society, but we do
1007
00:49:55.710 --> 00:49:58.969
see hierarchy by age. And in this case, height and
1008
00:49:59.070 --> 00:50:02.269
age are corresponds. And so that's why we see that hierarchy.
1009
00:50:02.849 --> 00:50:06.179
And so they were talking about the one when Catherine
1010
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.099
Austin Fitz talks about this one guy who was going to,
1011
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:11.139
he was at the IMF. the International Monetary Fund meeting,
1012
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:16.300
and he accidentally went into the wrong room. So he
1013
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:19.159
was kind of a staff dude, but also a thing.
1014
00:50:19.179 --> 00:50:20.639
And so he goes in there, and he's sitting there,
1015
00:50:20.659 --> 00:50:23.440
and the top IMF guys are around a table, and
1016
00:50:23.460 --> 00:50:26.300
in the front of the table, there's this eight-and-a-half-foot humanoid
1017
00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:31.070
talking to them. It's one of these friendship group guys.
1018
00:50:31.090 --> 00:50:35.230
So these guys are manipulating our society. I guess I
1019
00:50:35.250 --> 00:50:36.849
could grab the books later. We could talk about that.
1020
00:50:36.889 --> 00:50:39.570
We could do a special show on that. but basically
1021
00:50:39.590 --> 00:50:43.010
they're just a bunch of bullshit lying manipulators. And they
1022
00:50:43.030 --> 00:50:45.769
had that friendship case. They got all these guys from
1023
00:50:45.849 --> 00:50:47.750
Italy and they're telling, well, we're here to help you
1024
00:50:47.789 --> 00:50:50.070
and we're your friends and we're the good guys. And,
1025
00:50:50.329 --> 00:50:52.469
you know, the whole spew and, and, you know, they
1026
00:50:52.489 --> 00:50:54.679
had them all do these ridiculous snipe hunt, you know,
1027
00:50:54.699 --> 00:50:56.780
things for them do that. But it was really, they
1028
00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:59.480
were just using them and manipulating and understanding how to
1029
00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:02.179
control humans. And then, and then finally they went away,
1030
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:04.239
but they really didn't go away. And, and then the
1031
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.320
guy writes, there's a book friendship. He writes it 50
1032
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:10.019
years later. And he realizes 50 years after it was
1033
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:12.820
all over, they were kind of getting used. And they
1034
00:51:12.860 --> 00:51:16.989
were being manipulated and used. But these guys did. They
1035
00:51:17.010 --> 00:51:21.230
paid in platinum. They paid this one guy, Breccio, who
1036
00:51:21.269 --> 00:51:25.449
was the main character, protagonist in the story, over 425
1037
00:51:25.449 --> 00:51:26.090
pounds of platinum.
1038
00:51:26.929 --> 00:51:27.429
Oh, wow.
1039
00:51:27.650 --> 00:51:31.159
That's a lot of money. I'm sure it is. Yeah,
1040
00:51:31.179 --> 00:51:33.699
he had them build these special, they built a special
1041
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:35.510
villa for him. because these guys are eight and a
1042
00:51:35.530 --> 00:51:37.739
half foot tall. So they built this whole villa for that.
1043
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.559
They could come and hang out at, you know, where for,
1044
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:44.440
you know, nine foot tall people. So, so that's, and Cliff,
1045
00:51:44.539 --> 00:51:46.860
I mentioned that too. He mentioned he was, he was
1046
00:51:46.900 --> 00:51:50.340
looking to buy a house on the West coast and
1047
00:51:50.380 --> 00:51:53.170
he went to this house and everything was like giant sized.
1048
00:51:53.190 --> 00:51:57.489
It's like the toilets were gigantic. The, the counters were gigantic.
1049
00:51:57.510 --> 00:51:59.289
Like the counters came up to the mid chest on
1050
00:51:59.829 --> 00:52:00.530
the kitchen counters.
1051
00:52:00.590 --> 00:52:01.469
Right. Yeah.
1052
00:52:01.690 --> 00:52:04.610
Everything was just like supersized. And then the thing was,
1053
00:52:04.630 --> 00:52:07.329
if you buy the house, all these things are going away.
1054
00:52:07.349 --> 00:52:09.349
They're going to take them with them because they're obviously
1055
00:52:09.389 --> 00:52:12.510
custom built. And then they'll put in regular sized stuff.
1056
00:52:12.909 --> 00:52:15.480
And they said, oh, they're really tall people, basketball players, right?
1057
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:17.539
That was the excuse, right? But they never saw any
1058
00:52:17.579 --> 00:52:19.739
pictures of them or anything. So that's an example. Well,
1059
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:20.679
speaking of Cliff.
1060
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:24.679
High, his webop prediction, according to that, we are entering
1061
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:31.469
sci-fi age where there will be possible... contact with these
1062
00:52:31.590 --> 00:52:36.050
beings or that at least the general public will be
1063
00:52:36.110 --> 00:52:39.909
fully aware that they exist somehow and there's a lot
1064
00:52:39.949 --> 00:52:42.800
happening right now of course you hear the drone stories
1065
00:52:42.860 --> 00:52:45.019
and then on top of that you see the videos
1066
00:52:45.059 --> 00:52:48.380
of the weird plasmas that seem to be at war
1067
00:52:48.460 --> 00:52:52.179
with the drones very interesting things happening right now i'd
1068
00:52:52.219 --> 00:52:54.699
love to get your thoughts on all that well cliff.
1069
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:57.159
High and these other people the future forecast people looked
1070
00:52:57.239 --> 00:52:59.639
into it you know the remote viewers And they actually
1071
00:52:59.699 --> 00:53:02.489
saw something like that happening. They actually saw it. But
1072
00:53:02.510 --> 00:53:04.389
I think what's happening is there is some sort of
1073
00:53:04.469 --> 00:53:10.610
extraterrestrial program going on. But then to cover up, the U.S.,
1074
00:53:10.809 --> 00:53:14.510
they're bringing out these drones, which are obviously ours, right?
1075
00:53:15.619 --> 00:53:17.559
They have the red and green lights and blinking lights
1076
00:53:17.619 --> 00:53:20.920
and propellers, right? They're not from outer space. Okay, so
1077
00:53:20.940 --> 00:53:22.500
I think they've got two things going on here. You
1078
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:25.380
probably do have some sort of extraterrestrial actions going on
1079
00:53:25.860 --> 00:53:28.809
that are like, getting people's attention, but to cover that up,
1080
00:53:28.849 --> 00:53:31.429
to muddy the waters, they put their own drones out
1081
00:53:31.469 --> 00:53:33.269
there to kind of like, so is it an alien?
1082
00:53:33.309 --> 00:53:35.670
Is it a drone? You know, and so if you
1083
00:53:35.690 --> 00:53:40.139
look at it, it's, it's, you can't really tell, right?
1084
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:43.340
Because what is it, right? Is it, is it a drone?
1085
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:45.719
And people, most people will just discount it all completely
1086
00:53:46.420 --> 00:53:48.239
because they, you know, they'll just call it a drone.
1087
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:51.179
It's the same way when there was UFO sightings, you know,
1088
00:53:51.219 --> 00:53:52.800
they get to come out and they call it swamp
1089
00:53:52.860 --> 00:53:55.349
gas or the planet Venus, or, you know, they, they
1090
00:53:55.409 --> 00:53:58.400
ridicule the person, right? or whatever. It's just a way
1091
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:00.960
of muddying the waters on what's really going on. Not
1092
00:54:00.980 --> 00:54:03.400
that I know what's really going on, but there does
1093
00:54:03.460 --> 00:54:07.230
seem to be some sort of, you know, there is
1094
00:54:07.289 --> 00:54:09.710
from the people in the know, there's some sort of like,
1095
00:54:10.409 --> 00:54:13.190
certain groups of aliens are tired of like, it's like
1096
00:54:13.710 --> 00:54:15.949
aliens that want humanity to succeed, and there's ones that
1097
00:54:15.969 --> 00:54:18.219
want to keep us their slaves. And, you know, the
1098
00:54:18.260 --> 00:54:20.360
first thing, that's why they don't want humans ever to
1099
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:23.519
know that they exist, aliens exist, or one group, because,
1100
00:54:23.539 --> 00:54:26.849
you know, if humans ever came to understand that aliens
1101
00:54:26.889 --> 00:54:28.590
really did exist at a mass, it would be like
1102
00:54:28.630 --> 00:54:31.170
two weeks later, they'd figure out, Oh, we've actually been
1103
00:54:31.190 --> 00:54:35.739
being controlled by aliens for, you know, the last 5,000 years. Right.
1104
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.139
Cause you look at some of the Sumerian paintings, right.
1105
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:40.420
Or the Sumerian things, they have these really tall guys,
1106
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:43.159
you know, the people are small and they say, Oh,
1107
00:54:43.179 --> 00:54:45.739
they're just doing that because those guys are like the rulers. Well,
1108
00:54:46.300 --> 00:54:48.880
not if these guys are using that life extension technology,
1109
00:54:49.179 --> 00:54:50.539
because they had this one guy who was going to
1110
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:53.980
Harvard and, uh, He'd gotten into Harvard, you know, in
1111
00:54:54.099 --> 00:54:56.960
certain ways. But he was running to make money there.
1112
00:54:57.000 --> 00:54:59.179
He was running the scams and stuff. And, you know,
1113
00:54:59.219 --> 00:55:01.659
making money on the side, very, you know, let's say,
1114
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:04.489
you know, questionable but effective. And so finally these guys
1115
00:55:04.550 --> 00:55:06.030
in black came to him, you know, black suits and
1116
00:55:06.050 --> 00:55:07.750
stuff that came to him. And he thought they were
1117
00:55:07.769 --> 00:55:10.750
FBI agents and he was getting busted. And they said, no, no,
1118
00:55:10.789 --> 00:55:15.289
we respect your initiative. And we kind of like, we
1119
00:55:15.309 --> 00:55:18.849
would like to hire guys like you. And so eventually,
1120
00:55:18.869 --> 00:55:21.570
you know, they did an interview process. And finally he decided, yeah,
1121
00:55:21.590 --> 00:55:23.960
he'd become part of it. And so he goes to, like,
1122
00:55:23.980 --> 00:55:26.820
they go out to someplace out there in Boston, and
1123
00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:29.880
he goes into a basement, and the guys say, okay,
1124
00:55:29.900 --> 00:55:32.679
we're done. You know, he signs some stuff, and he says, well,
1125
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:34.860
welcome to the group. And then out of a door
1126
00:55:35.019 --> 00:55:39.519
opens up, and this eight-and-a-half-foot guy comes out. It's probably Kenyon's,
1127
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:42.239
the guy's name. He seems to be the guy. Kenyon
1128
00:55:42.260 --> 00:55:44.960
was probably the guy talking in front of the IMF
1129
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.239
and maybe this guy, and, you know, introduces himself and says,
1130
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:49.699
welcome to the team, right? But eventually this guy got
1131
00:55:49.739 --> 00:55:51.260
kicked out of the team because he was just a
1132
00:55:51.300 --> 00:55:53.429
little too unethical. And, you know, make it a little
1133
00:55:53.469 --> 00:55:55.769
bit too on the side for himself, you know. And
1134
00:55:55.789 --> 00:55:57.269
so he got kicked out. They didn't kill him or anything.
1135
00:55:57.340 --> 00:56:00.139
But then he just recounts his stories. Somebody, I have
1136
00:56:00.179 --> 00:56:03.000
it recorded somewhere on my data. But who knows? I'd
1137
00:56:03.139 --> 00:56:05.179
take a day or two to dig it out. So,
1138
00:56:05.219 --> 00:56:07.760
I mean, so these guys exist and that technology exists.
1139
00:56:08.219 --> 00:56:10.099
And they all seem to use it. That's why you have,
1140
00:56:10.139 --> 00:56:13.340
you know, the extraterrestrial seem, you know, they live 800
1141
00:56:13.340 --> 00:56:16.219
years and they get taller and taller each time. But
1142
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:19.969
you also see it like Saint Germain. Remember the story
1143
00:56:19.989 --> 00:56:22.139
of Saint Germain? There's this guy, he knows how to
1144
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:25.639
speak all these languages. He doesn't eat the food, but he'd,
1145
00:56:25.659 --> 00:56:27.980
you know, occasionally drink a glass of wine, but he
1146
00:56:28.019 --> 00:56:30.860
has all this knowledge about history, like he was actually there.
1147
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:33.300
And every time people see him, he gets a little
1148
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:37.599
bit taller and taller and taller. And until finally he disappears,
1149
00:56:37.659 --> 00:56:39.579
but he's come back. I mean, he was, he was
1150
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:42.300
even a St. Germain type guy at the formation of
1151
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:44.760
the United States of America. He was hanging out with
1152
00:56:44.780 --> 00:56:47.079
the founding fathers of the pubs and giving them a
1153
00:56:47.099 --> 00:56:50.050
little things. And it was like the same guy, right?
1154
00:56:50.809 --> 00:56:53.889
He's a different group than these other than the W56ers.
1155
00:56:54.349 --> 00:56:58.369
That's interesting. He's usually attributed to like vampire lore, but
1156
00:56:58.630 --> 00:57:02.489
I've never really heard him compared to extraterrestrials, which is interesting.
1157
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:05.440
Well, he's got that technology, that technology. You use it,
1158
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:08.260
you get taller and taller each time. And like they
1159
00:57:08.300 --> 00:57:09.960
had one where there was going to be a plane
1160
00:57:09.980 --> 00:57:13.219
crash because these aliens, extraterrestrials actually can kind of like
1161
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:16.900
future forecast. And so they got like a, they got
1162
00:57:16.940 --> 00:57:19.619
like a body double and, And these are not nice people, right?
1163
00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:24.159
Because they have like operatives where they put butts in
1164
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:26.409
their brains. This is back in the 50s. And like
1165
00:57:26.429 --> 00:57:28.829
they needed a taxi driver. And all of a sudden,
1166
00:57:28.849 --> 00:57:31.469
this taxi driver would just appear out of nowhere and
1167
00:57:31.489 --> 00:57:33.269
pick them up and then drive them and then he'd
1168
00:57:33.349 --> 00:57:36.590
drive back. And they were like ordinary Italians, right? That
1169
00:57:36.630 --> 00:57:39.989
they'd program, they'd have some sort of mind control. They
1170
00:57:40.010 --> 00:57:42.550
could just use them for their purposes. If they needed
1171
00:57:42.590 --> 00:57:44.699
a taxi driver, the guy probably didn't have any family,
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00:57:44.719 --> 00:57:46.590
they could just take him over and he'd go here
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00:57:46.630 --> 00:57:48.380
to pick somebody up and take him here to pick up.
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00:57:48.750 --> 00:57:51.369
And he was just like totally zombie mind control. And
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00:57:51.409 --> 00:57:53.090
so they did that to somebody. They knew this plane
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00:57:53.110 --> 00:57:55.070
was going to crash or maybe they crashed it. And
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00:57:55.110 --> 00:57:57.730
they had one of their guys, their operatives that they
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00:57:57.769 --> 00:58:00.469
had working for them, you know, because what happens is
1179
00:58:01.269 --> 00:58:03.170
you never age and you get a little bit taller
1180
00:58:03.250 --> 00:58:06.630
every year, right? And so after a while, you know,
1181
00:58:06.650 --> 00:58:08.809
if you're there really long and they're never like, they're
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00:58:08.829 --> 00:58:12.320
the assistant to the assistant secretary, right? or the assistant
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00:58:12.340 --> 00:58:15.179
to the CEO, right? They're always not the top leadership,
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00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:17.329
but they're right next to them. And it's going to
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00:58:17.349 --> 00:58:19.289
be kind of hard to explain why you haven't aged
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00:58:19.329 --> 00:58:22.090
for 20 years and you're getting taller all the time.
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00:58:22.750 --> 00:58:24.730
So what happens is this guy was supposed to take
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00:58:24.750 --> 00:58:27.130
this plane flight, but they actually got like a body
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00:58:27.170 --> 00:58:28.900
double to go take the plane flight. So the plane
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00:58:28.940 --> 00:58:33.219
crashes and they identify this guy in the plane crash records, right?
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00:58:33.300 --> 00:58:34.860
It's one of the guys that died in the plane crash,
1192
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:37.059
but the guy didn't die. He actually went on to
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00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:40.159
another operation. So they'll take him to another part of
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00:58:40.179 --> 00:58:43.329
the planet give him a whole new name, a whole
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00:58:43.369 --> 00:58:46.320
new identity, and put him into the local community as
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00:58:46.380 --> 00:58:49.559
like a spy, a manipulator. So he went from Italy
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00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:52.880
to maybe Argentina, right? And they'd have him where he
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00:58:52.900 --> 00:58:55.119
worked there 10 or 15 years. And then there'd be
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00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:58.800
an accident or something where he'd die, right? And they
1200
00:58:58.820 --> 00:59:00.510
would never find the body or something, right? Or the
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00:59:00.949 --> 00:59:04.210
body's terribly disfigured, right? And then by that time, and
1202
00:59:04.250 --> 00:59:06.349
eventually you grow too tall when you're getting about seven
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00:59:06.369 --> 00:59:09.070
feet tall. It's kind of hard to explain why you're
1204
00:59:09.110 --> 00:59:12.179
so tall. so then they go work underground in these
1205
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:15.480
underground bases where they work behind screens back then they
1206
00:59:15.500 --> 00:59:18.219
were working behind screens and manipulating things right they're obviously
1207
00:59:18.260 --> 00:59:22.219
an intelligence operation of some sort on manipulating and humans
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00:59:22.300 --> 00:59:24.639
and fighting the other people who are manipulating humans right
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00:59:25.059 --> 00:59:26.829
and so And then as you get old, if you
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00:59:26.869 --> 00:59:28.989
live long enough, you eventually, you know, when you get
1211
00:59:29.030 --> 00:59:30.789
to eight and a half feet tall, then you're the
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00:59:30.829 --> 00:59:32.690
guy talking in front of the IMF. You're the guy
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00:59:32.730 --> 00:59:35.469
bringing new people into the organization. And then when you're
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00:59:35.469 --> 00:59:37.070
10 and a half feet tall, you're the guy running
1215
00:59:37.090 --> 00:59:39.920
the organization. And at some point you might even have
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00:59:39.940 --> 00:59:42.019
to leave the planet because at that time you have problems.
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00:59:42.699 --> 00:59:45.880
Andre the Giant had problems. So maybe you go off
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00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:47.900
world to like, you know, the moon or a lower
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00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:51.260
gravity planet where, you know, you're now a super boss
1220
00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:53.760
for the aliens. But, you know, they claim when they
1221
00:59:53.780 --> 00:59:58.460
had an off world, human type civilization with 600,000 people,
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00:59:58.940 --> 01:00:02.079
yet they were using all this super advanced technology that
1223
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:04.570
you need a society of many, many millions, if not
1224
01:00:04.989 --> 01:00:07.610
billions of people to create, right? When you have super
1225
01:00:07.929 --> 01:00:10.869
high tech, 600,000 people can't make an advanced high tech technology.
1226
01:00:10.889 --> 01:00:13.429
That's ridiculous. But these guys are using all this high tech.
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01:00:13.769 --> 01:00:17.150
So obviously they're working for somebody else, a bigger society,
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01:00:17.170 --> 01:00:19.510
a bigger organization. They're not the ones that came up
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01:00:19.530 --> 01:00:23.300
with that technology. They're just workers. They're agents on the
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01:00:23.340 --> 01:00:25.960
earth because they look human. They are humans. Some of
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01:00:25.980 --> 01:00:28.659
them from off-world, humans that are living off-world, so there's
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01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:31.800
obviously an off-world human population of those guys that get
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01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:33.750
too tall, and then some of them come back to Earth,
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01:00:33.789 --> 01:00:35.969
and then some of them are the ones recruited from Earth,
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01:00:36.429 --> 01:00:40.929
who eventually, if they live long enough, will become part
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01:00:40.949 --> 01:00:41.849
of that organization.
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01:00:43.409 --> 01:00:45.969
We got a few minutes left. We had some tech difficulties.
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01:00:46.010 --> 01:00:46.469
We're back.
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01:00:46.489 --> 01:00:50.320
Ken was saying too much as usual. So in closing,
1240
01:00:50.510 --> 01:00:53.280
how do you feel about where we're headed with this
1241
01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:59.059
return administration, the Orange Emperor, UFOs, the reclaiming of new
1242
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:03.659
lands and everything that is poised to unfold during the
1243
01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:04.739
next four years?
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01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:05.920
What are your thoughts?
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01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:11.969
Well, I think it's going to be pretty you know
1246
01:01:11.989 --> 01:01:14.090
the remote viewers see a whole lot of changes coming
1247
01:01:14.769 --> 01:01:18.239
and you know trump you know the the alternative was
1248
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:23.860
just their malevolent evil was pure bowels of hell yes
1249
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:27.960
exactly so trump isn't like mr perfect right he's so
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01:01:27.980 --> 01:01:29.949
much better than the alternative and he speaks his own
1251
01:01:29.989 --> 01:01:33.210
mind he's his own person good or bad and so
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01:01:33.289 --> 01:01:35.789
i think that's we we are under better administration than
1253
01:01:35.809 --> 01:01:37.829
we would be under the psychos i mean not that
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01:01:37.929 --> 01:01:41.679
biden was running anything ever He was just a zombie
1255
01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:45.949
who did what he was told. And it was just insulting, actually,
1256
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:48.750
to have him running the... Well, he wasn't running anything.
1257
01:01:48.769 --> 01:01:51.929
It was just insulting the whole fraud that was there.
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01:01:52.349 --> 01:01:53.849
But I think, yeah, I think there is some sort
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01:01:53.909 --> 01:01:57.809
of big changes coming. It's kind of like the Wu change, right?
1260
01:01:58.449 --> 01:02:00.699
The old order is going away and the new one's
1261
01:02:00.739 --> 01:02:03.340
coming up. I mean, if we look at the United States,
1262
01:02:03.659 --> 01:02:06.539
you can't go on. I mean, the amount of... Just
1263
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:09.429
the interest on the national debt now because the way
1264
01:02:09.469 --> 01:02:11.710
they've been hyperinflating, the size of it is more than
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01:02:11.730 --> 01:02:15.670
the tax income. They got to roll over $ 10 trillion
1266
01:02:15.750 --> 01:02:18.150
of short-term bonds this year, and it's going to be
1267
01:02:18.170 --> 01:02:21.130
like five and a half, 6%. And about the end
1268
01:02:21.150 --> 01:02:23.750
of the year, the amount of interest we got to
1269
01:02:23.769 --> 01:02:25.730
pay on the bonds is more than all the taxes
1270
01:02:25.769 --> 01:02:29.289
come in. That's not continuous. Either you've got hyperinflation or
1271
01:02:29.309 --> 01:02:31.570
you crash the economy, right? Or they go to a
1272
01:02:31.610 --> 01:02:34.250
super war, right? So that's, yeah. So, I mean, things
1273
01:02:34.289 --> 01:02:36.260
are going to change. We are at a period of
1274
01:02:36.469 --> 01:02:39.639
massive and rapid change and It appears that also that
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01:02:39.900 --> 01:02:44.800
maybe extraterrestrial forces are going to be intervening in a
1276
01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:47.579
direct sense more than they've had before. Because maybe it's
1277
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:50.239
reached a point that, you know, for the planet and
1278
01:02:50.260 --> 01:02:53.420
other things where, you know, they obviously value the planet
1279
01:02:54.539 --> 01:02:58.099
as a functioning organism. And they don't want it to
1280
01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:00.639
be trashed either. So they're just, you know, I think
1281
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:02.460
it's coming to a head in many different ways. And
1282
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:06.400
we're going to see massive changes, I think, in 2012.
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01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:11.000
and moving especially toward 2027.
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01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:12.900
It's a hell of a time to be alive, I'll
1285
01:03:12.940 --> 01:03:13.780
tell you that much.
1286
01:03:13.980 --> 01:03:17.679
Yes, it is. So buy extra popcorn and get ready
1287
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:18.579
for the unexpected.
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01:03:19.019 --> 01:03:22.559
Right on. Well, Ken, thank you so much. Fantastic information
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01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:25.420
as usual. I'll have all your links in the description.
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01:03:25.460 --> 01:03:28.920
And with that, today I want to welcome Elizabeth Hancock.
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01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:33.340
She is a researcher and author specializing in spirituality, metaphysics,
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01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:37.909
and consciousness. She is a dedicated truth seeker and focuses
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01:03:38.110 --> 01:03:42.010
on the nature of reality, lost history, secret societies, and
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01:03:42.210 --> 01:03:46.179
our star ancestry. Elizabeth, welcome. How you doing?
1295
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:49.559
Yeah, I'm good, thanks. Thank you for inviting me on.
1296
01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:50.500
It's great to be here.
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01:03:50.940 --> 01:03:53.239
It's great to have you. I am very much looking
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01:03:53.300 --> 01:03:58.289
forward to this discussion. Your research covers everything from metaphysics
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01:03:58.349 --> 01:04:03.449
and spirituality to lost history and the multidimensional nature of reality.
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01:04:03.989 --> 01:04:06.150
This is all some of our favorite topics here. And
1301
01:04:06.570 --> 01:04:09.289
just in the past couple of years, there seems to
1302
01:04:09.349 --> 01:04:12.510
have been a noticeable increase in the interest in some
1303
01:04:12.530 --> 01:04:15.869
of these topics, which also unfortunately comes with a lot
1304
01:04:15.909 --> 01:04:19.329
of misinformation to sift through. But it does seem like
1305
01:04:19.670 --> 01:04:23.190
more people than ever are seeking answers and becoming aware
1306
01:04:23.250 --> 01:04:26.409
that there may be much more to this reality than
1307
01:04:26.889 --> 01:04:31.159
our mainstream science and academia would ever acknowledge now. So
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01:04:31.179 --> 01:04:34.079
there's a lot to discuss. I'm really interested in your research.
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01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:36.510
Before we get into it, this is your first time on.
1310
01:04:36.929 --> 01:04:39.639
Tell us a little bit about yourself and what brought
1311
01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:40.510
you to this work.
1312
01:04:42.489 --> 01:04:45.449
Okay, so yeah. So, I mean, you know, I think
1313
01:04:45.469 --> 01:04:50.090
like most kids, I was very intuitive. And, you know,
1314
01:04:50.170 --> 01:04:54.309
then society just sort of blocks you down, you know.
1315
01:04:54.329 --> 01:04:59.119
And I think what we sort of call intuitive is
1316
01:04:59.219 --> 01:05:03.260
probably the multidimensional self, which, you know, we are born
1317
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:09.409
as that multidimensional self, which we all are. And then society, which,
1318
01:05:09.449 --> 01:05:12.429
you know, it just doesn't quite know how to deal
1319
01:05:12.469 --> 01:05:14.909
with this. You know, it just shuts children down, you know,
1320
01:05:14.949 --> 01:05:20.889
whether it's parents' fear, whether it's religion, education, I mean,
1321
01:05:20.909 --> 01:05:27.909
just everything, everything in our society shuts down this multidimensional, um,
1322
01:05:28.630 --> 01:05:32.469
you know, sort of human that we are. And, um,
1323
01:05:32.690 --> 01:05:34.969
you know, sort of puts us into, if you like
1324
01:05:35.130 --> 01:05:38.909
puts us into this mind matrix, you know, 3d mind matrix,
1325
01:05:38.949 --> 01:05:40.869
you know, this is what the world looks like. This
1326
01:05:40.929 --> 01:05:42.730
is what you're going to see. This is what you're
1327
01:05:42.750 --> 01:05:47.030
going to do. And then, you know, everyone just sort
1328
01:05:47.050 --> 01:05:48.860
of toes the line, you know, and just does what
1329
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:50.469
everyone else is doing. And we end up, you know,
1330
01:05:50.510 --> 01:05:53.090
in the corporate world and the rat race and, you know,
1331
01:05:53.110 --> 01:05:54.539
and all that sort of stuff. And we just sort
1332
01:05:54.559 --> 01:05:57.670
of forget, you know? We forget who we are. But
1333
01:05:57.710 --> 01:06:01.610
then around 10 years ago, my mom died and I
1334
01:06:01.699 --> 01:06:04.840
started to hear her voice in my head. And I
1335
01:06:04.900 --> 01:06:07.139
just thought it was part of the grieving process, you know,
1336
01:06:07.579 --> 01:06:10.139
and I was sort of chatting to her for about
1337
01:06:10.179 --> 01:06:13.199
a year. And then one day my sister was coming
1338
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:14.820
to visit and I asked her if she had a
1339
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:18.650
message to pass on to my sister. And she gave
1340
01:06:18.670 --> 01:06:22.550
me this message. And I then told my sister and
1341
01:06:22.590 --> 01:06:26.329
it was just so profound for my sister that It
1342
01:06:26.550 --> 01:06:28.639
planted a seed, if you like, and I started to
1343
01:06:28.780 --> 01:06:32.440
ask myself, could I have been talking to my mother?
1344
01:06:32.539 --> 01:06:35.440
And I do think that I was. You could say
1345
01:06:35.460 --> 01:06:40.380
that it was a part of her consciousness. I think
1346
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:44.639
that we are all multidimensional and I don't believe that
1347
01:06:44.699 --> 01:06:49.260
we die. I think that we lose the body and
1348
01:06:49.300 --> 01:06:52.159
we move on and we either incarnate or we move
1349
01:06:52.239 --> 01:06:56.320
on to somewhere else. But our essence, our soul, as
1350
01:06:56.380 --> 01:06:58.880
people call it, but, you know, our life force, it
1351
01:06:58.940 --> 01:07:03.929
carries on. And anyway, at the same time, there were
1352
01:07:03.989 --> 01:07:06.349
other strange things going on in my life, you know,
1353
01:07:06.389 --> 01:07:09.090
and I just, I started to explore it. I started
1354
01:07:09.150 --> 01:07:12.030
to explore all the science behind it because I had
1355
01:07:12.070 --> 01:07:16.639
a very analytical mind, very logical mind, and I needed
1356
01:07:16.739 --> 01:07:21.219
to understand how it all worked, you know. And I
1357
01:07:21.260 --> 01:07:26.800
just began exploring and, you know, like multidimensionality, string theory, M-theory,
1358
01:07:26.820 --> 01:07:31.690
you know, all these different scientific theories, quantum physics. And
1359
01:07:32.010 --> 01:07:34.989
I just sort of researched this for about four years.
1360
01:07:35.070 --> 01:07:38.750
And then, you know, that is the culmination of this book,
1361
01:07:38.769 --> 01:07:43.190
you know, my first book. And that's all the science
1362
01:07:43.289 --> 01:07:46.329
behind the woo, if you like, and everything sort of
1363
01:07:46.409 --> 01:07:51.090
in there. And then I then sort of, started to
1364
01:07:51.110 --> 01:07:53.789
research more for my next book, which has just come
1365
01:07:53.909 --> 01:07:57.130
out literally like two weeks ago. And that's because I
1366
01:07:57.170 --> 01:08:02.750
was really passionate about understanding who we are. And it's
1367
01:08:02.809 --> 01:08:06.320
something I've always been passionate about, you know, what's our purpose,
1368
01:08:06.389 --> 01:08:09.960
why we here, who we are. Um, because I, I
1369
01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:13.300
never believed that, you know, we just are lumps of
1370
01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:15.780
flesh that live and die. It just, it, it never
1371
01:08:15.860 --> 01:08:20.569
felt that never, never resonated with me. So, um, I
1372
01:08:20.590 --> 01:08:22.930
just went on another journey for another two years and
1373
01:08:22.970 --> 01:08:25.829
started researching and writing for my next book, which is
1374
01:08:25.890 --> 01:08:29.329
all about who we are, our star ancestry, and the
1375
01:08:29.369 --> 01:08:32.100
multiverse that we live in, that we're part of.
1376
01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:37.720
Excellent. That's a great introduction. The more I learn about this,
1377
01:08:38.180 --> 01:08:43.600
the more I really have questions about everything. There seems
1378
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:48.149
to be layers to this reality that contain things an
1379
01:08:48.270 --> 01:08:52.760
ecosystem of life forms just beyond our perception. Now, if
1380
01:08:52.819 --> 01:08:59.319
you had to break down this reality, this multidimensional existence
1381
01:08:59.699 --> 01:09:03.319
and the layers beyond, where would you start when trying
1382
01:09:03.380 --> 01:09:07.159
to describe this matrix system that we're in?
1383
01:09:09.289 --> 01:09:13.170
Well, you know, over the past few years of researching,
1384
01:09:13.390 --> 01:09:18.859
I've come to understand and believe that it actually all
1385
01:09:18.970 --> 01:09:22.529
starts with the heart. And when you think about how
1386
01:09:22.569 --> 01:09:25.229
the heart has been completely shut down, it's, you know,
1387
01:09:25.289 --> 01:09:27.489
it's all been traumatized in all of us. And then
1388
01:09:27.510 --> 01:09:29.529
the ones who haven't been traumatized, you know, we've got
1389
01:09:29.550 --> 01:09:32.250
the cheesy romance films, you know, that sort of everything
1390
01:09:32.310 --> 01:09:35.369
is designed to pull us out, you know. And I
1391
01:09:35.430 --> 01:09:38.289
think that that actually is where it all begins. So
1392
01:09:38.310 --> 01:09:40.909
the soul is sort of like a prism, if you like,
1393
01:09:40.979 --> 01:09:43.119
you know, and it's just sort of you know, like
1394
01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:45.739
all different aspects of it. I think that we exist
1395
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:49.439
in probably 12 dimensions, you know, which correlates with the
1396
01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:53.130
12 strands of DNA that we are becoming again, this
1397
01:09:53.130 --> 01:09:56.930
12 stranded DNA. From my research, I understand that all
1398
01:09:56.989 --> 01:10:00.329
beings in the universe are 12 stranded DNA and we,
1399
01:10:00.510 --> 01:10:03.989
as was cut down and reduced down to two, but
1400
01:10:04.029 --> 01:10:06.750
we can see that now children are beginning to, um,
1401
01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:12.039
I think there's a boy, 2016, called Alfie, who's now
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01:10:12.100 --> 01:10:16.319
got three strands of DNA. They've now discovered a fourth
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01:10:16.359 --> 01:10:20.159
strand of DNA, which they're attributing to a disease, a disorder.
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01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:23.159
But I think what it's showing is that actually we're
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01:10:23.260 --> 01:10:26.319
activating back up again. So not only does it show
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01:10:26.340 --> 01:10:29.520
that we were suppressed, but we are activating back. And that,
1407
01:10:29.579 --> 01:10:33.100
I think, is to do with the rising energies of
1408
01:10:33.140 --> 01:10:36.270
the planet, the light codes, the crop circles, all this stuff.
1409
01:10:36.310 --> 01:10:41.670
It's activating our consciousness back. It's activating our consciousness back
1410
01:10:41.750 --> 01:10:48.250
into this multidimensional reality, this world, if you like. So
1411
01:10:48.930 --> 01:10:52.149
it's something which I believe that we access through the mind.
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01:10:52.979 --> 01:10:55.359
But I think what humans have done wrong is they've
1413
01:10:55.399 --> 01:10:59.039
been accessing it through the mind for many, many civilizations.
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01:10:59.060 --> 01:11:04.119
And I think this is why Atlantis fell. Because what
1415
01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:07.449
we keep missing is it's actually through the heart. We
1416
01:11:07.489 --> 01:11:12.779
have to spiritually evolve and access our multidimensional self through
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01:11:12.819 --> 01:11:15.899
the heart. And I think that's where it all starts.
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01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:18.520
And so I'm always saying to people, if you just
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01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:23.090
do one thing, just work on your heart, release the trauma,
1420
01:11:23.149 --> 01:11:27.409
release the ancestral abuse trauma that's gone on for thousands
1421
01:11:27.449 --> 01:11:30.829
of years and just open up your heart again. And
1422
01:11:30.869 --> 01:11:34.699
it can feel very painful. Certainly when I opened up mine,
1423
01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:39.600
it felt like you can feel everything. And it feels like,
1424
01:11:39.739 --> 01:11:42.390
you know, like knives stabbing you, you know, because this
1425
01:11:42.439 --> 01:11:46.270
world is so low vibrational, but the more of us
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01:11:46.329 --> 01:11:50.130
who can do that, the more we actually will raise
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01:11:50.189 --> 01:11:52.670
the vibration of the planet. And, you know, once we
1428
01:11:52.729 --> 01:11:56.710
get to a high enough level, all the crap will
1429
01:11:56.770 --> 01:11:58.470
fall away. You know, it just won't be able to
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01:11:58.529 --> 01:12:02.369
exist at that vibrational frequency because everything is about frequency.
1431
01:12:02.850 --> 01:12:05.470
So we've been in this lower frequency for a very
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01:12:05.529 --> 01:12:09.909
long time, you know, on purpose. And we're all now
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01:12:10.060 --> 01:12:12.600
raising our frequency so that we can, you know, get
1434
01:12:12.659 --> 01:12:16.100
into this higher, higher frequency, connect with the higher frequencies,
1435
01:12:16.140 --> 01:12:19.500
connect with higher consciousness, but also raise the frequency of
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01:12:19.539 --> 01:12:21.659
the planet as well so that we can move into
1437
01:12:21.699 --> 01:12:24.739
a better reality ourselves. Excellent.
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01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:28.199
I want to get a little further into your understanding
1439
01:12:28.229 --> 01:12:31.109
of what is happening right now. I've noticed a lot
1440
01:12:31.149 --> 01:12:35.329
of amazing things with the collective consciousness and people's awakening today.
1441
01:12:35.979 --> 01:12:38.880
I'd like to go back to human origins. I know
1442
01:12:38.939 --> 01:12:42.020
you've done a lot of research into this, and this
1443
01:12:42.100 --> 01:12:45.640
is also one of the biggest mysteries. The more we
1444
01:12:45.659 --> 01:12:48.909
learn about our ancient past, it seems that the older
1445
01:12:49.390 --> 01:12:53.869
humanity is and the more advanced we possibly were as
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01:12:53.989 --> 01:12:58.630
far as our knowledge of science and technology. It was
1447
01:12:58.689 --> 01:13:02.460
probably a lot different types of technology than we're used
1448
01:13:02.500 --> 01:13:03.239
to now, but.
1449
01:13:04.090 --> 01:13:04.550
the more.
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01:13:04.489 --> 01:13:08.329
Evidence comes out, it seems that we were a very
1451
01:13:08.489 --> 01:13:12.869
advanced race, possibly at multiple times in our ancient past.
1452
01:13:12.909 --> 01:13:17.399
And there may have been multiple resets or cataclysms. What
1453
01:13:17.460 --> 01:13:24.060
is your understanding of human origins? And was there another
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01:13:24.140 --> 01:13:27.439
hand in it, a non-human intelligence?
1455
01:13:28.689 --> 01:13:32.489
Yeah, well, certainly human origins goes back a very long way. Dr.
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01:13:32.510 --> 01:13:39.319
Gary Nolan has now put forward his research, which essentially
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01:13:39.380 --> 01:13:43.840
shows us that human DNA is nine billion years old. Now,
1458
01:13:44.119 --> 01:13:46.199
if the planet is really only four and a half
1459
01:13:46.270 --> 01:13:50.210
billion years old, then it means that that categorically proves
1460
01:13:50.270 --> 01:13:53.689
that humans have not come or human DNA has not
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01:13:53.750 --> 01:13:56.470
come from this planet. So it's been brought to this
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01:13:56.529 --> 01:14:00.840
planet at some point. Certainly, there are many, many people
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01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:03.600
who are saying that this is the case. You only
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01:14:03.619 --> 01:14:06.960
have to look at the panspermia theory, which part of
1465
01:14:07.020 --> 01:14:11.460
that theory, although it talks about cosmic dust coming down
1466
01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:16.130
from other planets and things, which I believe it does,
1467
01:14:16.149 --> 01:14:21.029
but part of that theory also involves space beings coming
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01:14:21.130 --> 01:14:26.979
here and seeding the complex DNA, including our DNA, because
1469
01:14:27.060 --> 01:14:29.960
our DNA is so complex. It just, you know, I mean,
1470
01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:33.739
Francis Crick, the Nobel Prize winner said this, that it's
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01:14:33.779 --> 01:14:35.720
the only thing that made any sense to him was
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01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:39.140
that we must have been seeded here from something outside
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01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:43.430
of the planet. So when we look at that, and
1474
01:14:43.470 --> 01:14:45.369
we look at this, you know, sort of the evolved
1475
01:14:45.510 --> 01:14:48.170
ape theory, which has never, ever been any proof of,
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01:14:48.210 --> 01:14:52.439
and yet it's still being taught to us. But Even now,
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01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:58.760
scientists know that the human is here and the apes
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01:14:58.819 --> 01:15:02.720
is here, and there are so many missing links. It
1479
01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:07.659
just doesn't correlate in that way. I think probably the
1480
01:15:07.739 --> 01:15:10.510
only thing that you could possibly say is that, okay,
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01:15:10.970 --> 01:15:14.170
if it was an ape, then this ape was genetically
1482
01:15:14.329 --> 01:15:18.590
altered many times in order to create the human species,
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01:15:19.590 --> 01:15:22.939
or apes and humans just were around at the same
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01:15:23.020 --> 01:15:29.000
time and humans came here from another planet. So whichever
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01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:34.460
way you look at it, we haven't evolved from apes, essentially.
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01:15:35.460 --> 01:15:40.909
So there's also evidence, Michael Cremo, he's very interesting. He
1487
01:15:40.989 --> 01:15:43.750
talks a lot about the skeletal remains that have been
1488
01:15:43.810 --> 01:15:47.789
found on the planet. So there's human remains, even with
1489
01:15:47.810 --> 01:15:51.189
the rounded head, I think, the rounded skull. which isn't
1490
01:15:51.229 --> 01:15:54.960
supposed to have come in since, um, like 30, 40,000
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01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:58.060
years ago with Cro-Magnon. He was the rounded skull before that,
1492
01:15:58.279 --> 01:16:00.979
you know, the Neanderthal and everyone had sort of the
1493
01:16:01.020 --> 01:16:05.510
more elongated one, but he's saying that there's skeleton remains
1494
01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:11.270
going back 286,000 years. It's found in very old cold strata.
1495
01:16:11.689 --> 01:16:14.289
We've got all the ancient relics, you know, the, um,
1496
01:16:14.270 --> 01:16:20.220
500 million year old zinc vase and, you know, just
1497
01:16:20.380 --> 01:16:24.140
all this stuff, which is completely hidden to us. So
1498
01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:27.060
the thing is, we're all sort of trying to make
1499
01:16:27.220 --> 01:16:29.819
sense of the world and trying to make sense of
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01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:32.720
who we are, where we come from. But so much
1501
01:16:32.739 --> 01:16:35.899
of this information has been hidden. So it's a bit like,
1502
01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:37.859
you know, trying to make a cake when you've only
1503
01:16:37.899 --> 01:16:40.760
got two of the ingredients, you know, we're not going
1504
01:16:40.779 --> 01:16:43.939
to be able to really understand who we are and
1505
01:16:43.979 --> 01:16:47.319
where we come from. until we have all the information.
1506
01:16:47.380 --> 01:16:51.520
And of course, the geneticists, as Lloyd Pye wrote about
1507
01:16:51.539 --> 01:16:54.779
in his book, the geneticists have also said, some have
1508
01:16:54.819 --> 01:16:57.600
come forward and said that we haven't been given all
1509
01:16:57.619 --> 01:17:03.460
the information about our DNA either. So, I mean, I've
1510
01:17:03.479 --> 01:17:06.600
got sort of my own opinions about things, but ultimately,
1511
01:17:07.350 --> 01:17:10.010
it's a very hard question to answer when we don't
1512
01:17:10.069 --> 01:17:11.189
have all the information.
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01:17:11.930 --> 01:17:17.199
Any thoughts about... the Anunnaki mythos, and if there's any
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01:17:17.439 --> 01:17:22.140
accuracy or validity to Zachariah Sitchin's research or some of
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01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:29.180
the other modern researchers that look into the Sumerian mythos. Hello, friends.
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think that the Anunnaki were here. I think that possibly....
1527
01:18:29.699 --> 01:18:32.640
There were many, like a lot of them are called Anunnaki.
1528
01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:35.439
I think from my research, what I'm seeing is that
1529
01:18:35.479 --> 01:18:38.439
there are multiple gods. And you even see this still
1530
01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:41.729
in some of the religions. Some of the religions in India,
1531
01:18:41.789 --> 01:18:45.829
they still worship hundreds of gods. And I think that
1532
01:18:45.890 --> 01:18:49.970
what I feel is that these gods were advanced beings.
1533
01:18:51.460 --> 01:18:54.140
off planet, inner earth, whatever it may be, but they
1534
01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:58.020
were very advanced to the local population. And they were
1535
01:18:58.060 --> 01:19:02.659
seen as gods, which would make sense. So these gods
1536
01:19:02.699 --> 01:19:06.210
were using advanced technology. We can see evidence of advanced
1537
01:19:06.229 --> 01:19:10.649
technology everywhere in our world, just the pyramids alone. and
1538
01:19:12.140 --> 01:19:17.119
we can see that there were a lot of different
1539
01:19:17.180 --> 01:19:21.760
people here, and there were many benevolent gods. We've been
1540
01:19:21.779 --> 01:19:25.369
given so much information and help. Medicine was given to us.
1541
01:19:25.710 --> 01:19:29.109
Surgery was given to us. I think like 600 BC
1542
01:19:29.189 --> 01:19:34.689
or something, the first cataract operation was performed. So many
1543
01:19:34.729 --> 01:19:38.340
things have been given to us. So I do think
1544
01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:44.560
that Anunnaki definitely existed. In terms of the cuneiform tablets
1545
01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:49.680
and Enki and Enlil, things like this, I don't know.
1546
01:19:49.699 --> 01:19:54.609
I think we put too much emphasis on Enki and Enlil.
1547
01:19:55.729 --> 01:19:58.869
When I see too much emphasis and this being allowed
1548
01:19:58.930 --> 01:20:03.590
into the world and not suppressed, alarm bells ring because
1549
01:20:03.630 --> 01:20:06.779
there's so much suppression about everything. And why is it
1550
01:20:06.840 --> 01:20:09.420
that we're allowed to have some of this information and
1551
01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:14.239
other stuff is suppressed? And I do think that there's
1552
01:20:14.300 --> 01:20:18.039
enough evidence to show that we've been genetically altered, but
1553
01:20:18.079 --> 01:20:21.600
there are different, I don't think that the genetic alterations
1554
01:20:21.649 --> 01:20:24.750
have all been bad. That's the thing. So the next
1555
01:20:24.789 --> 01:20:27.029
question is, well, who is doing these? And now I
1556
01:20:27.090 --> 01:20:31.149
do think that our DNA shows suppression. So someone must
1557
01:20:31.170 --> 01:20:35.130
have done that. The Anunnaki has talked about so many
1558
01:20:35.170 --> 01:20:39.500
different texts that I think that we need to accept
1559
01:20:39.539 --> 01:20:43.560
that they were here, that they were doing these things.
1560
01:20:44.060 --> 01:20:49.579
What they genetically altered, I think, is still a mystery.
1561
01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:53.020
Did they genetically alter an ape or did they genetically
1562
01:20:53.189 --> 01:20:57.930
alter a Neanderthal, a Homo erectus, which we can see
1563
01:20:58.170 --> 01:21:01.390
they were still humans and that was still human DNA.
1564
01:21:02.300 --> 01:21:06.579
So in a sense, they possibly altered a human that
1565
01:21:06.619 --> 01:21:11.420
was evolving in a spiritual way because I think that's
1566
01:21:11.500 --> 01:21:16.920
what evolution is. It's not like Darwin's theory. Evolution is spiritual.
1567
01:21:17.699 --> 01:21:22.159
And we're all evolving with, if you like, consciousness, the creator,
1568
01:21:22.220 --> 01:21:26.000
the universe. Everyone is evolving in this way. And I
1569
01:21:26.060 --> 01:21:29.739
think that genetic changes were done to us to stop
1570
01:21:29.859 --> 01:21:33.619
us evolving in that spiritual way, maybe not on purpose.
1571
01:21:33.689 --> 01:21:37.850
Maybe we were turned into a worker being or worker
1572
01:21:37.890 --> 01:21:41.510
species because they needed someone to mine the gold. But
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01:21:42.430 --> 01:21:48.569
then after that, they sort of physically advanced us, but
1574
01:21:48.600 --> 01:21:53.359
we weren't spiritually advanced enough. And one of the most
1575
01:21:53.460 --> 01:21:58.680
interesting things here is the Dogon tribe, who talk about
1576
01:21:58.699 --> 01:22:03.409
the nomu, and how the NUMO came from Sirius B,
1577
01:22:04.189 --> 01:22:06.710
and then the Anunnaki were also supposed to have come
1578
01:22:06.750 --> 01:22:09.840
from Sirius B. So I've been asking myself the question, well,
1579
01:22:09.859 --> 01:22:12.779
are these the same people? And if so, the NUMO
1580
01:22:12.819 --> 01:22:18.399
were described as an amphibian reptilian race who altered the DNA,
1581
01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:22.609
genetically altered a mammal on the planet in order to
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01:22:22.770 --> 01:22:23.300
create a.
1583
01:22:25.060 --> 01:22:28.920
A vessel to house their consciousness. So they were a
1584
01:22:28.979 --> 01:22:34.260
species that were able to, um, self fertilize if you like,
1585
01:22:34.300 --> 01:22:39.039
but they still needed to occasionally, um, have, you know,
1586
01:22:39.060 --> 01:22:41.880
like the, the normal man and woman thing. So they
1587
01:22:41.899 --> 01:22:45.239
were creating the female species and creating the male species.
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01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:49.579
The female species worked, the male species didn't, and they created,
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01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:52.859
you know, what, um, they call the jackal and it's
1590
01:22:52.899 --> 01:22:57.250
the jackal that is apparently been putting all the, that, that's,
1591
01:22:57.489 --> 01:23:00.829
that was the, that the, um, the species that they
1592
01:23:00.909 --> 01:23:04.590
couldn't uncreate, they then tried to uncreate and, and, um,
1593
01:23:04.890 --> 01:23:06.930
go back to, you know, to sort of, to, to,
1594
01:23:07.649 --> 01:23:10.649
to uncreate all the genetic changes that they'd made. Yeah.
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01:23:11.470 --> 01:23:14.029
And they couldn't do it. So in a sense, they
1596
01:23:14.109 --> 01:23:16.479
then felt that they had put the jackal into the
1597
01:23:16.529 --> 01:23:18.909
world and that was creating all the chaos. So this
1598
01:23:18.989 --> 01:23:22.739
is another theory just to throw into the mix, but
1599
01:23:23.710 --> 01:23:28.109
If they are the Anunnaki, then that fits in with
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01:23:28.149 --> 01:23:34.960
the reptilians. We've got the amphibian. We've got amphibian DNA
1601
01:23:35.039 --> 01:23:40.699
in us. I met a lady recently. Actually, it was
1602
01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:44.300
about last year. She told me that she was born
1603
01:23:44.340 --> 01:23:50.880
with webbed hands and webbed feet. She's also Rh-negative. She,
1604
01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:53.979
you know, she has the red hair. She has all
1605
01:23:54.020 --> 01:23:56.930
that sort of, you know, like the Anunnaki Lilith sort of,
1606
01:23:57.279 --> 01:24:00.899
you know, white skin, all of that. So that's very
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01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:03.090
interesting as well. So like I was saying, we don't
1608
01:24:03.210 --> 01:24:06.529
have all the answers yet, but I do think that
1609
01:24:06.590 --> 01:24:09.810
the cuneiform tablets must have been talking about something and,
1610
01:24:09.890 --> 01:24:12.229
you know, it comes up in the Nagamadi texts as
1611
01:24:12.289 --> 01:24:16.399
well with the rulers of reality. So there's definitely been
1612
01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:20.029
something like this on our planet, some sort of you know,
1613
01:24:20.060 --> 01:24:22.619
something that's been suppressing us, something that's been changing and
1614
01:24:22.680 --> 01:24:23.279
altering us.
1615
01:24:24.420 --> 01:24:27.520
I've heard such a wide range of theories about the
1616
01:24:27.579 --> 01:24:34.109
nature of these beings, whether they're non-humans or extraterrestrials. Many
1617
01:24:34.170 --> 01:24:37.750
believe that it's possible that these are not physical beings
1618
01:24:37.869 --> 01:24:43.050
at all, that they are non-corporeal energetic intelligences or maybe
1619
01:24:43.090 --> 01:24:47.119
some sort of archetypes or thought forms that can interact
1620
01:24:47.180 --> 01:24:51.720
with us. We have researchers like Jacques Vallée, who's presented
1621
01:24:51.819 --> 01:24:56.319
this possibility of a grand intelligence that can manifest in
1622
01:24:56.359 --> 01:25:00.229
different ways through our mind's eye, through our consciousness, and
1623
01:25:00.270 --> 01:25:04.270
it can seem like a very real physical experience. But again,
1624
01:25:04.470 --> 01:25:07.609
I consider all these possibilities. I'd love to get your
1625
01:25:07.630 --> 01:25:10.109
thoughts on that. And this also leads to the different
1626
01:25:10.170 --> 01:25:15.270
types of intelligences that are possibly non-physical, which you would
1627
01:25:15.310 --> 01:25:19.750
consider maybe demonic or disincarnate spirits. And I'd like to
1628
01:25:19.810 --> 01:25:23.609
get your understanding of this spectrum of beings.
1629
01:25:25.409 --> 01:25:28.479
Well, yes, I think that there are many entities and beings.
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01:25:28.640 --> 01:25:33.359
I mean, if you imagine the multiverse with parallel realities,
1631
01:25:33.500 --> 01:25:40.000
different timelines, different universes, different dimensions, I mean, I think
1632
01:25:40.039 --> 01:25:46.140
that there is a multitude of different forms of form,
1633
01:25:46.260 --> 01:25:51.159
if you like. And I think that it's very hard
1634
01:25:51.220 --> 01:25:55.560
for us to get our head around concepts, which most
1635
01:25:55.680 --> 01:26:00.399
likely involve advanced technology, so advanced that we actually don't
1636
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:05.590
understand at all how it works. We're trying to understand
1637
01:26:05.689 --> 01:26:08.229
how all of this works from a 3D point of view,
1638
01:26:08.250 --> 01:26:15.090
and it's not 3D, you know? So, My understanding, consciousness,
1639
01:26:15.250 --> 01:26:18.409
of course, as we know, underpins the quantum field. So
1640
01:26:18.489 --> 01:26:23.000
consciousness drives everything. Now there's this understanding now that consciousness
1641
01:26:23.039 --> 01:26:27.699
could be plasma. And this is very interesting because plasma,
1642
01:26:27.739 --> 01:26:32.020
when you look at the, in the 1800s, when they
1643
01:26:32.060 --> 01:26:35.680
were doing all this sort of, psychic work, you know,
1644
01:26:35.699 --> 01:26:37.819
it was when they were really, really pushing this psychic
1645
01:26:37.859 --> 01:26:40.180
work and they were trying to bring in spirits and
1646
01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:42.899
the spirits were essentially able to come in and you
1647
01:26:42.930 --> 01:26:45.569
could see like a foot or a hand, you know.
1648
01:26:45.590 --> 01:26:47.189
Yeah, the spirit photography era.
1649
01:26:48.170 --> 01:26:52.390
Yeah, exactly. You know, so what if that's what the
1650
01:26:52.810 --> 01:26:56.260
spirit was trying to do was literally like manifest itself
1651
01:26:56.380 --> 01:27:01.579
into physical form using plasma and And when you sort
1652
01:27:01.600 --> 01:27:04.100
of think of it like that, then you sort of think, okay,
1653
01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:12.319
physical form is lower vibrational energy waves. Energy form is
1654
01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:15.430
higher vibrational energy waves. And when you think of the
1655
01:27:15.489 --> 01:27:19.710
different vibrational frequencies that we have in the multiverse, then
1656
01:27:19.729 --> 01:27:24.430
you can understand how there can be physical form or
1657
01:27:24.449 --> 01:27:27.710
they can be light beings or Entities, and of course,
1658
01:27:27.729 --> 01:27:30.529
we're not even physical. We're actually made of light ourselves,
1659
01:27:30.649 --> 01:27:35.239
as quantum physics has shown us. So I think what
1660
01:27:35.260 --> 01:27:39.720
we're talking about here is advanced technology. And I don't
1661
01:27:39.800 --> 01:27:44.300
see why a species a thousand years or a billion
1662
01:27:44.340 --> 01:27:48.760
years more advanced than us has not worked out how
1663
01:27:48.859 --> 01:27:54.010
to dematerialize and materialize. Shapeshifters come up in all of
1664
01:27:54.109 --> 01:27:57.189
our ancient myths, our old myths, and I think the
1665
01:27:57.250 --> 01:28:04.810
myths are really showing us things actually happened on our planet.
1666
01:28:04.930 --> 01:28:07.710
I think our planet used to be 5D, and I
1667
01:28:07.770 --> 01:28:10.630
think that's what it's showing us, all this advanced technology,
1668
01:28:10.689 --> 01:28:14.699
all these different things these people could do. And of course,
1669
01:28:14.739 --> 01:28:20.529
if they could do that, then they could easily manipulate
1670
01:28:20.689 --> 01:28:25.680
the physical form, I think. And so, yes, of course,
1671
01:28:26.140 --> 01:28:29.300
entities and beings, they would be able to do different
1672
01:28:29.319 --> 01:28:32.020
things that we can't do. But I don't think it
1673
01:28:32.060 --> 01:28:35.409
necessarily means that they're not physical. It just means that
1674
01:28:35.430 --> 01:28:38.829
they're able to manipulate and harness and tap into the
1675
01:28:38.890 --> 01:28:43.069
fields of consciousness that we are only just beginning to explore.
1676
01:28:43.090 --> 01:28:46.640
We've literally just started exploring consciousness. If we spend the
1677
01:28:46.689 --> 01:28:50.640
next thousand years exploring consciousness like Dr. Stephen Greer said
1678
01:28:50.659 --> 01:28:53.439
we're going to be doing, I think we'll really understand
1679
01:28:53.460 --> 01:28:56.340
how ETs use it, how they.
1680
01:29:00.029 --> 01:29:02.250
They sort of use it to, to, to come in
1681
01:29:02.289 --> 01:29:07.489
with their ships, you know, plasma consciousness that they actually have, um, the,
1682
01:29:07.569 --> 01:29:11.340
the ships themselves are living beings and is driven through consciousness.
1683
01:29:11.380 --> 01:29:13.260
I mean, there's just so much, so much that they
1684
01:29:13.300 --> 01:29:16.199
can do. And all of this is consciousness, which we're
1685
01:29:16.220 --> 01:29:17.579
beginning to understand ourselves.
1686
01:29:18.659 --> 01:29:24.079
You mentioned that you believe the planet used to be 5d.
1687
01:29:24.699 --> 01:29:27.050
Could you break down what exactly you mean by that?
1688
01:29:28.430 --> 01:29:31.890
Well, in, in, Quite a few of the ancient texts,
1689
01:29:31.930 --> 01:29:34.270
and I can't remember exactly which ones they are, but
1690
01:29:34.310 --> 01:29:36.659
I think it may be like the Indian Vedas or,
1691
01:29:36.670 --> 01:29:41.130
you know, or maybe it's like Tibetan culture. But they
1692
01:29:41.369 --> 01:29:45.560
talk about, well, actually, Agartha. So Agartha, they talk about
1693
01:29:45.640 --> 01:29:51.140
this being in another dimension. And when we have raised
1694
01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:54.020
our vibration, we'll be able to see it again. There's
1695
01:29:54.100 --> 01:29:58.770
also islands, you know, like complete islands and buildings, which
1696
01:29:58.779 --> 01:30:02.479
are in our ancient stories, they say, well, these buildings
1697
01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:05.699
have been seen before, and then they sort of drop
1698
01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:07.699
out of sight, if you like. And so, as we
1699
01:30:07.720 --> 01:30:10.439
go back into the Golden Age, as the indigenous tribes
1700
01:30:10.500 --> 01:30:14.560
call it, we will then start to see these buildings again. So,
1701
01:30:14.619 --> 01:30:17.819
that's sort of telling us that then there must be
1702
01:30:17.899 --> 01:30:20.949
more to this planet that we can actually see. And
1703
01:30:21.010 --> 01:30:23.970
if that's the case, are we talking about different dimensions,
1704
01:30:25.489 --> 01:30:30.439
maybe different densities or something? But I think that we
1705
01:30:30.500 --> 01:30:34.039
probably are. And in most of the research I've been
1706
01:30:34.060 --> 01:30:36.960
looking at, it talks about how space is in 5D.
1707
01:30:38.060 --> 01:30:40.250
And I've always found this quite interesting because that would
1708
01:30:40.289 --> 01:30:42.590
actually sort of make sense. So what we're seeing in
1709
01:30:42.670 --> 01:30:46.710
our 3D reality is not really, you know, we're seeing
1710
01:30:46.729 --> 01:30:49.390
like a 3D version of it. But if you imagine
1711
01:30:49.430 --> 01:30:52.100
that space is 5D, then it means that all these
1712
01:30:52.159 --> 01:30:56.100
different planets that we have could actually sustain life. And
1713
01:30:56.119 --> 01:30:58.819
I think that they probably are. But we're not able
1714
01:30:58.859 --> 01:31:00.500
to see it because they've been put into this sort
1715
01:31:00.520 --> 01:31:05.050
of 3D mind matrix, if you like. So I do
1716
01:31:05.130 --> 01:31:07.909
think that as we're moving back into 5D, we'll be
1717
01:31:07.949 --> 01:31:12.050
able to see more of what's around us. I also
1718
01:31:12.109 --> 01:31:15.619
think that things like dragons and Sasquatch, I think that
1719
01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:19.020
they can move off into other dimensions. I think they're
1720
01:31:19.039 --> 01:31:22.779
trans-dimensional because that would explain why the Sasquatch has never
1721
01:31:22.840 --> 01:31:28.760
been caught. And why dragons, that they... We have the bones.
1722
01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:31.560
I think dinosaurs were dragons. I know that there's a
1723
01:31:31.739 --> 01:31:35.090
sort of a dinosaur, a dragon looking head that was
1724
01:31:35.149 --> 01:31:38.590
found in Dorset not long ago. And I think that
1725
01:31:39.010 --> 01:31:42.750
these were dragons, you know, but, um, you know, now
1726
01:31:42.829 --> 01:31:45.010
I know that people are still talking about seeing them
1727
01:31:45.029 --> 01:31:48.449
and things like this, you know? So yeah, I think that, that, that,
1728
01:31:48.850 --> 01:31:52.649
that our reality is much wider than we have been
1729
01:31:52.689 --> 01:31:54.029
led to believe. Hmm.
1730
01:31:54.710 --> 01:31:58.590
And as we start to explore some of these older
1731
01:31:58.789 --> 01:32:04.189
esoteric concepts, a lot of Gnostic understandings are starting to resurface.
1732
01:32:04.550 --> 01:32:09.510
And there's many people that have the unfortunate perspective that
1733
01:32:10.250 --> 01:32:14.149
our reality has been hijacked by negative forces, that we
1734
01:32:14.350 --> 01:32:19.069
are somehow trapped in this reality, constantly recycled, and basically
1735
01:32:19.229 --> 01:32:24.859
our energy is food for negative, archonic intelligences. I do
1736
01:32:24.939 --> 01:32:27.939
consider all the possibilities. I'd love to get your thoughts on,
1737
01:32:28.619 --> 01:32:31.430
is it possible that at least some aspects of our
1738
01:32:31.470 --> 01:32:34.050
reality have been hijacked by negative forces?
1739
01:32:36.050 --> 01:32:40.250
Yes, I, I think that they probably have. And I, um,
1740
01:32:40.289 --> 01:32:43.210
from my research, this is going back at least 6,000 years,
1741
01:32:43.270 --> 01:32:47.050
if not 12,000 years. And, um, you know, there are
1742
01:32:47.069 --> 01:32:49.369
many people that say that these are the Anunnaki descendants
1743
01:32:49.729 --> 01:32:52.579
who do this. And of course, um, we have the
1744
01:32:52.619 --> 01:32:55.760
secret societies and some of them are negative. There's, there's
1745
01:32:55.859 --> 01:33:01.180
three negative secret societies who are really sort of, you know,
1746
01:33:01.260 --> 01:33:03.819
doing a lot of chaos, causing a lot of chaos
1747
01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:07.199
at the moment and have been running reality for at
1748
01:33:07.260 --> 01:33:12.550
least a hundred years. But probably more like, sorry, you
1749
01:33:12.569 --> 01:33:14.310
froze up. You froze up. We can see that.
1750
01:33:14.590 --> 01:33:14.869
Yeah.
1751
01:33:14.930 --> 01:33:17.050
You saying how long have they been in control?
1752
01:33:18.970 --> 01:33:22.409
So we can see that they've been in control for
1753
01:33:22.449 --> 01:33:26.529
at least 120 years because we're talking about the Rothschild,
1754
01:33:26.550 --> 01:33:30.270
the Rockefellers, these sorts of people. If they really are
1755
01:33:30.329 --> 01:33:34.409
practicing Satanism, which I'm sure that they probably are because
1756
01:33:34.430 --> 01:33:37.649
there's just so many accounts of this and so many whistleblowers,
1757
01:33:38.060 --> 01:33:41.100
then it begs the question, well, who are they doing
1758
01:33:41.140 --> 01:33:48.380
it for? Who are they worshipping? And black magic exists, absolutely.
1759
01:33:50.649 --> 01:33:55.729
When you use blood, you know, that's black magic. And magic,
1760
01:33:55.770 --> 01:33:59.800
you know, is energy. You know, we live in an
1761
01:33:59.899 --> 01:34:03.300
energy world. You know, there's energy fields everywhere. So the
1762
01:34:03.340 --> 01:34:06.000
CIA has been working on mind control technology for at
1763
01:34:06.060 --> 01:34:08.659
least 100 years. And, you know, you've got to ask
1764
01:34:08.680 --> 01:34:10.970
yourself the questions, well, why? You know, why all these
1765
01:34:11.029 --> 01:34:14.029
different things? If there wasn't this suppression going on, then
1766
01:34:14.090 --> 01:34:17.050
why would they be doing these sorts of things? So
1767
01:34:18.029 --> 01:34:21.670
I agree with you. That we don't have to allow
1768
01:34:21.750 --> 01:34:26.050
that to push us into fear. Remember I was saying
1769
01:34:26.810 --> 01:34:29.090
everything is about the heart. We've really got to focus
1770
01:34:29.170 --> 01:34:29.930
on raising our.
1771
01:34:31.399 --> 01:34:33.060
Vibration.
1772
01:34:33.079 --> 01:34:38.039
A lot of this misinformation now and information is still
1773
01:34:38.079 --> 01:34:40.859
being designed to keep our vibration low. So everything in
1774
01:34:40.880 --> 01:34:42.739
the world at the moment is designed to keep our
1775
01:34:42.779 --> 01:34:45.880
vibration low so that we do not step into the
1776
01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:50.340
higher vibrations and essentially move our planet, you know, out
1777
01:34:50.380 --> 01:34:55.760
of the crap. So interdimensional beings, they do exist. They
1778
01:34:55.819 --> 01:35:01.180
live between dimensions as the, the word suggests, and they
1779
01:35:01.220 --> 01:35:04.319
don't have physical bodies, you know? So somewhere along the line,
1780
01:35:04.619 --> 01:35:06.159
did someone call one of these in?
1781
01:35:06.600 --> 01:35:06.819
Yeah.
1782
01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:10.180
I suspect that the Vatican did. And, um, you know,
1783
01:35:11.659 --> 01:35:15.729
the Jesuits and, um, Who is it that they called in?
1784
01:35:15.829 --> 01:35:17.609
Who are they worshiping? Well, there are many people that
1785
01:35:17.630 --> 01:35:20.310
say the Dracos, but even if it's not the Dracos,
1786
01:35:20.569 --> 01:35:27.350
it's still the demons or whatever, that something was called
1787
01:35:27.390 --> 01:35:32.470
into our world. And yes, I do think that we
1788
01:35:32.489 --> 01:35:34.750
were trapped into a karmic cycle, but I also know
1789
01:35:34.789 --> 01:35:38.270
that all of this has been, it's being undone. it's
1790
01:35:38.390 --> 01:35:41.869
all being undone. So since 2012, we've been able to
1791
01:35:41.909 --> 01:35:44.310
leave the planet, you know, the karmic cycle was broken
1792
01:35:44.369 --> 01:35:49.909
then since, um, all the children who've been coming in
1793
01:35:50.130 --> 01:35:56.420
for the, since 2010, I've all been coming into a higher,
1794
01:35:56.439 --> 01:36:01.960
that they'd be coming into 4d basically. So, you know,
1795
01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:06.260
already things are being undone. The, you know, I do
1796
01:36:06.319 --> 01:36:09.189
think that there are white hats that, And I think
1797
01:36:09.210 --> 01:36:13.189
that they're working with off-planet benevolent species. I think that
1798
01:36:13.260 --> 01:36:18.140
we come from different species. And they're also working behind
1799
01:36:18.180 --> 01:36:20.640
the scenes. I can see that there's a massive effort
1800
01:36:20.659 --> 01:36:23.220
to raise the levels of consciousness of the planet. You
1801
01:36:23.239 --> 01:36:27.100
can just see this everywhere. And the fact that you
1802
01:36:27.140 --> 01:36:29.979
can even measure the energy and you can see that
1803
01:36:31.199 --> 01:36:36.829
it's already risen significantly. so much, you know, we are,
1804
01:36:37.210 --> 01:36:39.670
we are raising, you know, we are sort of shifting
1805
01:36:39.710 --> 01:36:42.890
our vibration, if you like. So I think the thing
1806
01:36:42.930 --> 01:36:45.890
is for me, I'm not scared of information. I'd rather
1807
01:36:45.930 --> 01:36:48.369
know the truth, even if it's really uncomfortable, I'd rather
1808
01:36:48.409 --> 01:36:50.270
know it. But I also know that there are many
1809
01:36:50.350 --> 01:36:53.840
people who don't like information if it's, if it's bad,
1810
01:36:54.800 --> 01:36:57.739
but for me, it's knowledge is power. If you, if
1811
01:36:57.819 --> 01:37:00.960
we know this information, then we can equip ourselves to
1812
01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:04.010
deal with it. You know, We can't hide under the
1813
01:37:04.050 --> 01:37:06.560
bed and pretend things aren't happening. We have to find
1814
01:37:06.699 --> 01:37:10.579
out this information and then find solutions in order to
1815
01:37:11.600 --> 01:37:15.340
work with it and understand what part we need to
1816
01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:20.329
play and what do we need to do to help
1817
01:37:20.369 --> 01:37:23.170
the planet. So that's sort of how I tend to
1818
01:37:23.210 --> 01:37:24.430
look at things these days.
1819
01:37:24.569 --> 01:37:27.310
Yeah, that's a great perspective. I wanted to get your
1820
01:37:27.350 --> 01:37:31.210
thoughts on what is unfolding right now. the awakening that
1821
01:37:31.250 --> 01:37:34.310
we were just mentioning. You also mentioned in 2012, our
1822
01:37:34.949 --> 01:37:39.369
karmic cycle was broken. What is occurring on our planet
1823
01:37:39.449 --> 01:37:43.119
right now and causing this awakening? And what do you
1824
01:37:43.180 --> 01:37:44.279
think this will lead to?
1825
01:37:49.319 --> 01:37:53.560
Okay. So, like I said, I think that we have
1826
01:37:53.600 --> 01:37:58.079
been trying to, it's all about spiritual evolution, which in
1827
01:37:58.140 --> 01:38:02.619
my mind is levels of consciousness. You know, so humanity
1828
01:38:02.760 --> 01:38:05.319
is moving to their next level of consciousness, which we
1829
01:38:05.359 --> 01:38:08.699
could say is 4D, 5D. You know, I sort of
1830
01:38:08.960 --> 01:38:13.310
see it like this. And we have been trying to
1831
01:38:13.390 --> 01:38:18.890
spiritually evolve for quite a while. And we have been stopped,
1832
01:38:19.090 --> 01:38:24.029
I think, from evolving. And we're now moving into this,
1833
01:38:24.390 --> 01:38:27.569
what people call the golden age, but I haven't really
1834
01:38:27.609 --> 01:38:30.789
researched this too much, I know Dr. Stephen Greer talks
1835
01:38:30.850 --> 01:38:34.880
about this and says that this is our destined time
1836
01:38:34.979 --> 01:38:38.300
to move back into the Golden Age. We're apparently destined
1837
01:38:38.319 --> 01:38:42.899
to now have 500,000 years of peace, and that's what
1838
01:38:42.939 --> 01:38:48.760
the planet is supposed to be having. So, I tend
1839
01:38:48.819 --> 01:38:50.800
to look at it in terms of that we've been
1840
01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:53.399
held back and suppressed because we can see this in
1841
01:38:53.420 --> 01:38:56.979
so many different areas of our world. And now the
1842
01:38:57.079 --> 01:39:02.149
suppression is lifting, if you like. And I think that
1843
01:39:02.619 --> 01:39:05.449
there's a lot of help that we're being given. But
1844
01:39:05.590 --> 01:39:10.069
humanity itself, in order to spiritually evolve, we have to
1845
01:39:10.109 --> 01:39:13.630
get back to our heart. And this is the most
1846
01:39:13.689 --> 01:39:16.829
important thing. We've all got to raise our vibration from
1847
01:39:16.890 --> 01:39:20.539
the heart order to raise the vibration of the collective
1848
01:39:20.960 --> 01:39:24.819
and move out of 4D, if you like, and move
1849
01:39:24.859 --> 01:39:31.399
into 5D. So the interdimensional beings, demons, whatever, they will
1850
01:39:31.439 --> 01:39:36.270
not be able to exist past 4.3D. So I think
1851
01:39:36.289 --> 01:39:41.430
we're something like 3.9 now, maybe even 4, but we
1852
01:39:41.489 --> 01:39:44.789
need to get beyond that so that they literally will
1853
01:39:44.850 --> 01:39:48.329
fall away. It's a bit like frequency healing with disease.
1854
01:39:48.369 --> 01:39:52.270
You bombard the body with high vibrational frequencies like the
1855
01:39:52.310 --> 01:39:57.140
salvageo frequencies, and the disease literally cannot exist in that
1856
01:39:57.220 --> 01:40:04.000
high vibration anymore, and it just falls away. You look
1857
01:40:04.020 --> 01:40:07.149
at the empire of Tartaria, which was the free energy empire.
1858
01:40:07.189 --> 01:40:09.229
This is exactly what they were doing and using the
1859
01:40:09.289 --> 01:40:12.750
churches and cathedrals to do this. This was only 200
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01:40:12.750 --> 01:40:17.010
years ago. It shows that we have all this this energy.
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We have all this technology. We've had free energy before.
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01:40:20.319 --> 01:40:23.239
I think there are still some people using it on
1863
01:40:23.260 --> 01:40:27.680
this planet, and it's just there waiting for us to
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01:40:27.720 --> 01:40:34.989
just sort of awaken and raise our vibration. And for
1865
01:40:35.050 --> 01:40:40.409
the people like the Rothschilds, we call them the elites,
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01:40:40.430 --> 01:40:44.270
the parasites, psychopaths, whatever, for these people to just leave
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01:40:44.989 --> 01:40:48.300
and move off the planet or to just sort of
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01:40:49.020 --> 01:40:51.239
disappear from view, if you like, you know, so that
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we can become the majority on the planet as we
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01:40:55.840 --> 01:40:59.600
always have been. But they were manipulating the energy fields
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01:40:59.890 --> 01:41:01.909
and sort of pulling it all around to them, if
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01:41:01.930 --> 01:41:04.510
you like. And I think they were using probably black
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01:41:04.550 --> 01:41:08.229
magic spells to do that. But yeah, you know, so
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I think that this is the case.
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01:41:11.720 --> 01:41:15.819
It definitely seems like a very critical time in our
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01:41:15.859 --> 01:41:20.060
human history. And there seems to be this reaction from
1877
01:41:20.119 --> 01:41:23.680
the parasitic ruling class to the awakening and trying to
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01:41:24.180 --> 01:41:29.300
cause chaos, basically, and throw out lots of bad information,
1879
01:41:29.399 --> 01:41:33.460
get people full of fear from whatever new disease or
1880
01:41:33.520 --> 01:41:37.060
sickness or terrorist or war that could be in the future.
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01:41:37.579 --> 01:41:40.720
And it all seems to be ramping up as their
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01:41:41.819 --> 01:41:46.100
final effort to try and keep control over things.
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01:41:48.100 --> 01:41:52.180
Yeah, exactly. And that's why we've probably got maybe another
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01:41:52.220 --> 01:41:57.350
five years of chaos. But I know that there's a
1885
01:41:57.409 --> 01:42:01.489
lot of things coming in even next year. So there
1886
01:42:01.789 --> 01:42:04.789
are humanitarian projects that are going to be starting in
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01:42:04.810 --> 01:42:08.819
the next few years. The money has now been taken
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01:42:09.159 --> 01:42:14.600
off the parasites and it's now being held by the military.
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01:42:14.939 --> 01:42:19.239
This is all white hat intel. And we've got all
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01:42:19.289 --> 01:42:22.569
this off-planet technology just waiting in the wings to come in,
1891
01:42:22.609 --> 01:42:25.270
you know, med beds. I know med beds are ridiculed
1892
01:42:25.310 --> 01:42:31.039
by people, but they are actually real. And it's holographic. technology,
1893
01:42:31.140 --> 01:42:34.930
which essentially heals the body because we live in a
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01:42:34.970 --> 01:42:41.649
holographic universe, I think, or multiverse. And the oceans can
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01:42:41.670 --> 01:42:46.489
be cleaned just like that. The weather, of course, I
1896
01:42:46.529 --> 01:42:50.390
think the weather has been manipulated for hundreds of years,
1897
01:42:50.609 --> 01:42:53.140
maybe even, but it's definitely been manipulated for the past
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01:42:53.140 --> 01:42:59.289
120 years. And that, we can actually manipulate the weather
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01:42:59.569 --> 01:43:02.050
for our own benefit. It's been done negatively, but we
1900
01:43:02.090 --> 01:43:04.369
can now do it for our own benefit. And it
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01:43:04.430 --> 01:43:08.750
means that we can move out of the cities. We
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01:43:08.789 --> 01:43:11.229
can go to places where we haven't been able to
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01:43:11.289 --> 01:43:15.760
inhabit before. The med beds alone will give us an
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01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:19.020
extra 25 years on our life, but it's looking like
1905
01:43:19.699 --> 01:43:23.220
our lifespan will double because we always had a longer
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01:43:23.239 --> 01:43:26.649
lifespan anyway. You know, the Bible, the ancient texts, they
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01:43:26.770 --> 01:43:29.550
always talked about how we lived for hundreds and thousands
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01:43:29.590 --> 01:43:35.029
of years. And then this changed. So, and I know
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01:43:35.510 --> 01:43:41.649
Harvard looks at the, it shows that we can easily
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01:43:41.670 --> 01:43:43.949
live 120 years. So I know in the Bible, it
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01:43:44.569 --> 01:43:49.529
says that we were captured 120 years. This may have
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01:43:49.550 --> 01:43:51.720
been done for bad reasons or good reasons, who knows,
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01:43:52.149 --> 01:43:54.829
but we were. So as our DNA is changing, these
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01:43:54.850 --> 01:43:57.350
genetic changes will switch back on again and we'll be
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01:43:57.399 --> 01:44:00.319
able to get a longer lifespan. But even if that
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01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:03.020
isn't the case, the MedBed technology will be able to
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01:44:03.060 --> 01:44:07.579
do that. So there's a lot of off-planet technology waiting
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01:44:07.619 --> 01:44:11.390
to come into the wings, but we have to work
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01:44:11.550 --> 01:44:14.829
on raising the vibration of the collective now so that
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01:44:14.970 --> 01:44:19.630
we can, you know, if you like, embrace this technology
1921
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because I think that there are still probably people on
1922
01:44:21.899 --> 01:44:25.300
this planet who will abuse it. And so nothing is
1923
01:44:25.319 --> 01:44:28.359
going to be given to us until I think we
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01:44:28.399 --> 01:44:32.619
can stop abusing things. But it's not the everyday person
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01:44:32.659 --> 01:44:37.210
who's abusing it. It's the elites, as they call themselves.
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01:44:37.289 --> 01:44:39.810
They're the ones abusing it. So these are the ones
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01:44:39.890 --> 01:44:44.109
who they either have to work on their heart or
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Or they have to sort of just allow themselves to
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fall away, if you like. So the more of us
1930
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that can become heart-led, the more of us that we
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01:44:54.039 --> 01:44:57.689
can work from the heart, raise that vibration, gain that
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01:44:57.739 --> 01:45:02.430
pure intent, which is the pure intent of everything that
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01:45:02.449 --> 01:45:05.289
you're doing in your life is done for the greater good,
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is done for the collective, is done for not hurting
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people and helping people. And all of this, you know,
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and I think, I don't know. I mean, I think
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there's probably still quite a few people that haven't worked
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on themselves because I know that something like 85% of
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01:45:25.079 --> 01:45:28.079
people don't do self-development or personal development, which is the
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01:45:28.119 --> 01:45:30.640
same thing as spiritual development. It's all the same thing
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at the end of the day. So I think that,
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you know, more of us need to start working on
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ourselves because self-development, personal development, it's all a consciousness expansion.
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And consciousness expansion is also raising the vibration as well.
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It does the same thing. So I think that's what
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we have to really work on now as a collective
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and know that we do have all these things just
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01:45:58.270 --> 01:46:01.890
around the corner. But there are these people on the
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01:46:01.930 --> 01:46:06.850
planet who are making a mess and causing chaos. And
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I think also we need to stand up to them
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01:46:09.909 --> 01:46:12.550
and say, no, we need to stop playing their games.
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We really need to, whatever that may be, stop voting,
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stop being in the military and fighting their wars for them.
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Stop going to work, whatever it may be. I think
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01:46:25.380 --> 01:46:28.300
we need to break these systems that have been controlling
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01:46:28.359 --> 01:46:30.720
us for such a long time. I mean, I'm not
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01:46:30.739 --> 01:46:34.359
an anarchist, but I do think that we need to
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do something.
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Well, yeah, our systems are currently built from a foundation
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of anti-human ideologies. So none of this is to benefit us.
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None of these current education, medical systems, all of these
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major institutions that we are under their thumb, it never
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01:46:55.329 --> 01:46:58.750
benefits humanity in any way. But I want to go
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back to the white hat aspect for a minute myself
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and many others that i associate with are skeptical about
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the white hat possibility just because we've been promised a
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lot of things over the years that really never came
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through now i do see many wonderful things happening i
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01:47:19.970 --> 01:47:24.920
see a great awakening in people's consciousness and in individual
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people's lives. We're doing wonderful things. We're starting our own systems.
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01:47:28.979 --> 01:47:32.039
We're starting to build things from the ground up. But
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01:47:32.100 --> 01:47:39.079
as far as organized levels of our military or government
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01:47:39.159 --> 01:47:42.760
that do have humanity's best interests in mind, I'm a
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01:47:42.800 --> 01:47:46.819
little skeptical about, but I'd love to hear where you're
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sourcing this information and what makes you think that there
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are indeed white hats.
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Well, yes. Well, I mean, I'm sourcing it from a
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variety of different places, but I think you have to
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feel into your own heart and feel what resonates with you.
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And I agree with you that it doesn't look like
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the White Hats are doing anything, but I sort of
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01:48:12.600 --> 01:48:17.649
feel like there's been a lot of problems in our
1983
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world for a very long time And when you look
1984
01:48:21.520 --> 01:48:27.960
at the level of where it's been with the child trafficking, paedophilia,
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01:48:28.020 --> 01:48:31.760
all this sort of thing, I think these are sort
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01:48:31.800 --> 01:48:35.220
of accepted areas of our world. I mean, it's an
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01:48:35.340 --> 01:48:38.279
uncomfortable truth that not many people want to really look at.
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But I think that this has been a part of
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our world for a very long time. And I think
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maybe that takes a long time to undo all of that.
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I know Stephen Greer says that this sort of awakening
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will probably take two, 300 years, because I think that's
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where sort of the golden age fits into that with
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the transition time. But then there are other people say
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it's going to be a lot quicker than that. I
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think if we had a black swan event of some sort,
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it would be quick. But I'm not too sure that
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we will have that because I'm not too sure that
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anything is going to be done for us. I think
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that we, you know, it's a bit like the universe.
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01:49:17.300 --> 01:49:20.380
You meet the universe halfway, you know, and you, you, you,
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01:49:20.460 --> 01:49:23.029
you manifest or, you know, get whatever it is you want.
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01:49:24.130 --> 01:49:26.149
And I think it's the same for us. I think
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that maybe more of us need to awaken that more
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01:49:30.729 --> 01:49:32.729
of us, you know, sort of need to be, you know,
2006
01:49:32.890 --> 01:49:37.819
actively helping and working and participating in and actually changing
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01:49:37.880 --> 01:49:43.979
this world together. And I know that we've got sort
2008
01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:48.130
of energetic waves, high vibrational energetic waves coming in all
2009
01:49:48.170 --> 01:49:51.369
the time. And I really do feel this. I feel
2010
01:49:51.409 --> 01:49:55.630
that just now compared to last month feels higher vibrational
2011
01:49:55.649 --> 01:49:59.340
to me. The energy does, it feels better every single day,
2012
01:49:59.939 --> 01:50:02.659
whether that's just me or whether that's people around me.
2013
01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:05.369
But when I talk to other people, they always say, yes,
2014
01:50:05.449 --> 01:50:08.949
they feel there's a nice energy as well. It does
2015
01:50:09.010 --> 01:50:13.539
feel like something bad has lifted off the planet to me. But, um,
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01:50:14.399 --> 01:50:16.739
you know, in terms of, uh, the white hats and
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01:50:16.859 --> 01:50:21.640
the galactic federation and these sorts of things, um, yeah,
2018
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I mean, I do think that, you know, that, that
2019
01:50:26.149 --> 01:50:29.529
we are getting some help, but in, in what context
2020
01:50:29.569 --> 01:50:31.930
that help is and how much help we're getting is,
2021
01:50:33.060 --> 01:50:35.899
I don't know, because it's not sort of right in
2022
01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:39.119
our face. It's not something that we can say, that's
2023
01:50:39.380 --> 01:50:46.640
happening and that's happening. I'm in an organization called Connecting Consciousness,
2024
01:50:46.699 --> 01:50:53.609
and that's run by an ex-UK politician. He has links
2025
01:50:53.710 --> 01:50:59.529
to MI5, MI6 through his family. He gets a lot
2026
01:50:59.569 --> 01:51:03.710
of intel from that. According to him, he's working with
2027
01:51:03.729 --> 01:51:06.569
the White Hats. He's part of a White Dragon Society.
2028
01:51:07.149 --> 01:51:13.079
The White Dragon Society was set up. They were all asked.
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01:51:13.100 --> 01:51:18.300
I think there was something like 12 different groups were
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01:51:18.399 --> 01:51:22.159
all asked to work together to create this White Dragon Society,
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01:51:22.180 --> 01:51:24.699
which was a benevolent society that was going to be
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01:51:25.039 --> 01:51:30.300
working with off-planet races in order to be on the ground,
2033
01:51:30.319 --> 01:51:32.500
if you like, the boots on the ground, doing a
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01:51:32.539 --> 01:51:38.180
lot of the things here. I feel that things like
2035
01:51:38.220 --> 01:51:42.039
this could actually be true. They know that it could
2036
01:51:42.079 --> 01:51:46.880
actually be the case. I think that there's enough evidence
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01:51:47.060 --> 01:51:51.630
in our ancient texts and Bible and religious texts to
2038
01:51:51.729 --> 01:51:57.250
show that our planet has been inhabited by extraterrestrials since
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01:51:57.270 --> 01:52:01.880
the time began, you know, so if they've been on
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01:52:01.920 --> 01:52:04.180
this planet and they they've been visiting this planet for
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01:52:04.359 --> 01:52:07.079
thousands and thousands of years, I think they possibly only
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01:52:07.159 --> 01:52:09.300
stopped a few hundred years ago. And I think that's
2043
01:52:09.359 --> 01:52:14.430
because they're, you know, the, if you like the sort of,
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01:52:14.439 --> 01:52:17.609
you know, the, the, the parasitic elites took over and
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01:52:17.649 --> 01:52:20.189
they haven't been able to get in, get into help
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01:52:20.250 --> 01:52:23.109
if you like. So, you know, we had the star
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01:52:23.170 --> 01:52:25.630
seeds that, you know, that incarnate to a physical body
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01:52:25.670 --> 01:52:29.539
to help from within. I think that's probably what's happening
2049
01:52:29.600 --> 01:52:35.239
is that the disclosure, the truth-seeking, the raising of the
2050
01:52:35.300 --> 01:52:38.829
vibration of the planet, it's all coming from within. It's
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01:52:39.250 --> 01:52:43.930
not that we're getting external help in that sense. It's
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01:52:43.949 --> 01:52:47.510
that we're getting help from within so that we're helping
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01:52:47.590 --> 01:52:50.600
to raise our own vibration from within because I do
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01:52:50.649 --> 01:52:54.039
think that we have to do this ourselves. This is
2055
01:52:54.180 --> 01:52:56.840
our planet and and we can be given a certain
2056
01:52:56.880 --> 01:53:00.739
amount of help. But I think that if it's done
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01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:03.340
for us, then we're not going to snap out of
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01:53:03.399 --> 01:53:06.579
this God thing that we have going on. You know,
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01:53:06.619 --> 01:53:10.619
we're such worshipers, you know, we're always worshiping someone. If
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01:53:10.659 --> 01:53:13.619
it's not God, it's a celebrity or a sporting hero,
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01:53:13.680 --> 01:53:17.800
you know, or a musician, you know, we're always worshiping someone.
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01:53:17.819 --> 01:53:20.439
So we're always, always giving our power away to something
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01:53:20.520 --> 01:53:23.060
outside of ourselves. So I think if we sort of
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01:53:23.119 --> 01:53:25.380
get this help, you know, people just sort of coming
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01:53:25.399 --> 01:53:29.439
down and helping us, again, like so many, you know,
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01:53:29.479 --> 01:53:32.100
all the indigenous tribes in the past, they've all then
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01:53:32.180 --> 01:53:38.119
made these people gods. And, you know, we also don't
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01:53:38.199 --> 01:53:41.460
quite know how to take responsibility for ourselves because if
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01:53:41.500 --> 01:53:44.500
you like, we've been herded in so many different directions
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01:53:44.539 --> 01:53:49.520
that we don't really have that sort of empowered sovereign power.
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01:53:49.800 --> 01:53:51.859
you know, sort of thing going on. And I think
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01:53:51.939 --> 01:53:54.420
these are possibly things that as a collective, we need
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01:53:54.460 --> 01:53:57.239
to learn. And if everything's done for us, we're not
2074
01:53:57.279 --> 01:54:00.310
going to learn these things. So that's sort of my,
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01:54:00.329 --> 01:54:02.630
you know, my gut feeling about this, but I do
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01:54:02.670 --> 01:54:06.090
think that we're getting help. I do just, just thinking
2077
01:54:06.149 --> 01:54:09.710
about wave genetics, you know, that we're in a, we
2078
01:54:09.750 --> 01:54:14.869
live in a telepathic universe and telepathically all these sort of,
2079
01:54:14.880 --> 01:54:18.810
you know, thoughts and voices and things, you know, I mean,
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01:54:18.989 --> 01:54:21.850
how many people, you know, sort of speak to spirit
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01:54:21.890 --> 01:54:24.930
guides and channel and stuff like this, all this information
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01:54:24.970 --> 01:54:25.409
coming in.
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01:54:25.470 --> 01:54:28.859
I mentioned this quite often. I'll have a profound thought
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01:54:28.899 --> 01:54:33.119
or idea, a new awareness, and I'll be excited to
2085
01:54:33.220 --> 01:54:36.140
share it on my show with my audience, but I'll
2086
01:54:36.180 --> 01:54:38.340
wake up the next morning and it seems like everybody
2087
01:54:38.399 --> 01:54:41.680
else already has this understanding. It's already come out somehow
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01:54:41.779 --> 01:54:45.840
and it's permeated through the consciousness. So I definitely believe
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01:54:45.880 --> 01:54:50.329
that we are becoming more connected and there is this
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01:54:50.470 --> 01:54:55.109
information field that is starting to flow a little easier. Now,
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01:54:55.149 --> 01:54:57.569
that being said, let's talk a little bit about our
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consciousness abilities that have been dormant for a long time
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that we have not been utilizing that now would be
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a good time to start getting into and practicing some
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of our consciousness abilities again, and you talk about the
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science behind manifestation and how that relates to the holographic universe.
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Talk a little bit about your understanding of manifestation and
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how we can basically create our reality through our awareness, perception,
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and imagination.
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Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we already are. That's the thing,
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you see. We already are. We are creator beings, just
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like every being in the universe, I think. And essentially,
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because we live in a holographic universe, we're all creating
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our reality all the time. It's just that the reality
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that we've been creating isn't the one that we want.
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And the parasitic elites know that we're all manifesting our reality.
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So they've been hyphen in a sort of, um, siphoning
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off and hijacking the energy and directing it to them
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and pulling it away from us. So I think one
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of the most important things is to understand, first of all,
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how much power we have, you know, we really are
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already creating our own reality, but we're, sorry, we're creating realities. Um,
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what we're sort of doing is creating realities based on
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our limiting beliefs. and our belief structures. And these belief structures,
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they originate from programming, conditioning, trauma, abuse, you know, ancestral
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trauma and abuse, which, you know, the field of epigenetics
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shows us that trauma is passed down in our DNA.
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So that's another thing that people can be doing now
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is working on their ancestral healing, you know, releasing all
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the trauma which has been passed down from generations, 40,
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100 generations back, and just releasing, just letting it go.
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Because another thing is that we live in a free
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will world. And again, it can't be done for us.
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We have to do it ourselves. So we can ask
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one of our guides, can you heal this for me?
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And then listen to the answer. We can go to
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ancestral healings. And there's a very nice lady in the
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US called Sue Cimino. And she does these ancestral healings
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for free. Every week she's doing one. And she just
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has a huge amount of people coming and she's just
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clearing all this ancestral trauma, the ancestral sort of collective
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beliefs that we've inherited when we incarnated onto this planet.
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So there's a lot of things that people can do.
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So we understand now that sound creates everything. So the
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field of cymatics has proven to us that sound creates
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physical matter. So if you like, you know, like the
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um the the sound the frequency is creating sort of
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these like sacred geometric shapes and we already know that
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the universe you know the world is made up of
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geometric shapes you know we've got the the golden ratio
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we've got the fractals everything is a fractal you know
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we've got um the um different geometric shapes, the flower
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of life. Tesla, Newton, Isaac Newton, they all believed that
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the flower of life was everything. It was everything. In
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my research that I've been doing, I'm beginning to feel
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that the flower of life is the universe and the
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different pockets that you see within it are the pockets
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of dimensions. We already know that space is not linear,
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it's curved. And if we think about the flower of
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life and how it's fitted together, we can see that
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01:59:16.069 --> 01:59:18.989
this makes more sense. We can also see that as
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our blood cells start to double, double, double, double, it
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01:59:23.930 --> 01:59:26.909
begins to look like the flower of life. So you
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01:59:26.930 --> 01:59:30.909
can just see these things, these different geometric shapes everywhere.
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So then sound is creating that and sound is frequency.
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So frequency is everything. It's being created, if you like,
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by consciousness or whatever. But essentially, if we see that
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the holographic universe is what we see has been created
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by our own thoughts, words, feelings, emotions. then we can
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uncreate it, you know, and we can create a better
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reality for ourself. And one of the other things that
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I would say in terms of abilities is to start
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connecting back to your multidimensional self, you know, so start
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to access your clairvoyance, start to switch on your clairaudience,
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you know, start to get that knowing, that sense of knowing,
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start to feel that and that sort of that sentient feeling,
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because this is the multidimensional self. And when you start
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to just access your senses beyond the physical five senses,
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then you're starting to access the subtle energy that's around you.
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And the more you do that, the more consciousness will
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upgrade your body. So every time we get one of
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those aha moments, every time we learn something new, every
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02:00:52.239 --> 02:00:57.020
time we meditate, or sort of practice our intuitive skills,
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if you like, our brain changes, our DNA changes, and
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then consciousness is able to work with our DNA in
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a better way. And it literally upgrades us. We become
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a new person. We become a different vibration. And the
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more we do that, the more we're upgrading ourself continually up, up, up, up,
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which is also expanding our consciousness, raising our vibration. So
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it's just working on these abilities that we all have.
2181
02:01:30.260 --> 02:01:32.989
But again, we just switched them all off when we
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were kids.
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Now, when you say upgrading, I've had plenty of researchers
2184
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come on and talk about how it's possible that we
2185
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are evolving from carbon-based life forms to crystalline. Does that
2186
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mean anything to you?
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Yeah. So it's moving into homo luminous. We're moving into
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the light body, which is, you know, most likely the
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next stage for humans. I mean, we are light bodies anyway.
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Even Einstein said that we're beings of light. And you
2191
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can see, you know, just looking at us under the x-ray,
2192
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you know, you can see that, you know, we are
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light bodies. So, yeah, I understand where they're going with that.
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But I would say that we already are light. And so,
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maybe it's realizing that we are light. And if you
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think about energy and matter, matter is heavier, energy is lighter. So,
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as we become more energy- So, you know, we're releasing,
2198
02:02:37.899 --> 02:02:40.770
if you like, the physical traumas, you know, which creates
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like a sort of trapped energy in our body. We're
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02:02:43.710 --> 02:02:48.649
releasing all of this sort of physical flesh, if you like,
2201
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you know, we're just releasing sort of all the low
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vibrational thinking, the low vibrational feeling. We're releasing all of that.
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02:02:56.880 --> 02:03:00.739
We're becoming more energy. And as we become more energy,
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02:03:01.119 --> 02:03:05.260
we step into that light body, into the crystalline body.
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02:03:06.140 --> 02:03:09.460
And again, that's ascension. It's all the same thing. Ascension,
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golden age, consciousness expansion, 5D, it's all the same thing.
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And it's where we've been heading for a very long time.
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But I think that we were stopped somewhere along the line,
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but now we're back in again and we're heading back
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into that, into that crystalline body. And we, you know,
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02:03:27.680 --> 02:03:32.000
eventually we won't have to eat. you know, you won't
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02:03:32.060 --> 02:03:34.760
have to do any of that. And actually there in the,
2213
02:03:35.060 --> 02:03:40.960
the empire of Tartaria, there were, um, breatharians and these
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02:03:41.060 --> 02:03:46.289
were people who didn't eat. And these were indigenous tribes
2215
02:03:46.350 --> 02:03:48.689
as well. The indigenous tribes, there are still many indigenous
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02:03:48.710 --> 02:03:52.750
tribes around today that don't eat and they're able to
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work with the, the energy, you know, prana, the energy
2218
02:03:57.649 --> 02:04:02.810
of the ether and, um, And with the sun as well,
2219
02:04:02.869 --> 02:04:06.229
which is a huge life giving force and they're able
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to sustain their bodies in that way. So we can
2221
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see that already people doing it on this planet, you know,
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02:04:11.800 --> 02:04:13.840
so we will be able to get to that point
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as well. And, um, and eventually I think all civilizations,
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I think that they've all been through this, this process.
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And I think eventually you just end up as pure
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02:04:25.050 --> 02:04:29.649
energy and, you know, eventually you integrate back in into source.
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For the last few minutes we have, I mentioned earlier
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the possibility that we've been reset multiple times as a species,
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that there might have been multiple cataclysms throughout our history
2230
02:04:43.359 --> 02:04:47.579
that has wiped out civilizations to a point to where
2231
02:04:47.659 --> 02:04:51.970
we have no collective memory of how advanced we once were.
2232
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There's many that speculate we may be headed towards another
2233
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one of those cataclysmic eras or resets. I'd like to
2234
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get your thoughts on if that's possible.
2235
02:05:04.539 --> 02:05:09.279
Yeah. Well, I mean, the Great Reset supposedly happens every
2236
02:05:09.279 --> 02:05:13.510
250 years. The last one was 1776. And that's when
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02:05:13.590 --> 02:05:17.170
the Empire of Tartaria, which took over 90% of the
2238
02:05:17.229 --> 02:05:21.609
Northern Hemisphere, it was so huge, was wiped out. And
2239
02:05:21.989 --> 02:05:25.729
possibly wiped out using energy weapons, actually, because you look
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at the... know, the, just the huge mud floods and
2241
02:05:29.800 --> 02:05:32.979
things that occurred from that. So we are due to
2242
02:05:33.100 --> 02:05:38.739
have another reset in 2030 or about 2026. So there
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02:05:38.770 --> 02:05:40.890
are many people that say that, you know, that yes,
2244
02:05:40.949 --> 02:05:43.369
this is the great reset coming. You know, you look
2245
02:05:43.390 --> 02:05:45.890
at the world economic forum, they actually, they call it
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02:05:45.909 --> 02:05:48.810
the great reset, you know, and they call it the
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02:05:48.850 --> 02:05:52.270
new world order. And they keep trying to create this
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02:05:52.369 --> 02:05:56.010
new world order with all these resets that they do.
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But this is just in the past sort of, you know,
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say a few thousand years. I think a thousand years
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has been added on to our calendar by the church,
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02:06:08.489 --> 02:06:12.189
the Vatican, at least 800 years, if not a thousand.
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So we're already a thousand years behind. But, you know,
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you look back. you look at what has actually occurred
2255
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with these great resets and you realize how much our
2256
02:06:25.319 --> 02:06:29.850
history has been altered already, which really makes you understand
2257
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that what we see in our history books cannot be trusted.
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And it just makes you look at the world in
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such a different way. So in terms of the white
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pad of civilization, which I think you're referring to, the
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02:06:46.460 --> 02:06:49.619
different indigenous tribes talk about how, how we keep being
2262
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wiped out because we keep falling, falling into matter, you know,
2263
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falling into, um, low vibrations, falling into, um, uh, what's
2264
02:07:01.909 --> 02:07:07.489
the word? Yeah, exactly. So we kept doing that. That's
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why Atlantis went, um, because we kept, you know, sort
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of just being wiped out because we kept falling. And
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I don't know, you know, yes, we could have been
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falling into debauchery, but I suspect it's the same parasites
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that keep doing it. And they're sort of pulling mankind
2270
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down with them, if you like. And maybe, you know,
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the interdimensional beings that the demons that is talked about
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in literally every single culture around the world talks about
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these interdimensional demons. And, um, So yeah, maybe it's that,
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that we just keep sort of falling into temptation by
2275
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these demons and we just keep sort of for more power,
2276
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we sell our soul for more power, which you can
2277
02:07:55.329 --> 02:07:57.869
see just in Hollywood alone that that's already been done.
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02:07:58.369 --> 02:08:01.039
But you know, in terms of whether it's the great
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reset every 250 years or whether it's the civilization falling,
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which the Mayans, um, you know, the, the Hopi Indians,
2281
02:08:08.500 --> 02:08:10.840
they say that we're on our fourth, fifth world, I
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think maybe even as much as seventh world, but these
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worlds went for a much, much, much longer. I mean, the,
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you know, we're talking like, um, tens of thousands, hundreds
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02:08:21.350 --> 02:08:24.630
of thousands of years in between these periods where we fell.
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02:08:25.350 --> 02:08:30.409
So if Dr. Stephen Greer is right, we are promised 500,000
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years of peace. That is what we've been promised. And
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that is what is coming. Then it means that all
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these other things are not going to happen. So is
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the Great Reset going to happen 2030? Well, This we
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don't know, you know, and I'm not going to sit
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around and rest on my laurels, if you like. I'm still,
2293
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as you probably are and everyone else, I'm still looking around.
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I'm still, you know, making sure that we're on track,
2295
02:08:59.319 --> 02:09:03.770
you know, feeling into my heart, understanding more about the
2296
02:09:03.899 --> 02:09:09.069
energies and always questioning and asking myself, Have I, do
2297
02:09:09.149 --> 02:09:11.750
I see evidence of things shifting to the better yet?
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I haven't at the moment. So for the moment, you know,
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I'm still saying the same thing, you know, out there
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doing the same thing and helping people to raise their
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02:09:21.949 --> 02:09:26.010
own vibration, their own internal vibration. But I do feel
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that it will be okay. I do feel that, but
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I do know that we have to put the work in.
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It's not going to be done for us and we
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have to put the work in. We have to prove
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and show. that we can put the work in and
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do it.
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100%. Elizabeth, thank you so much. This was fantastic. I'd
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definitely love to have you back on in the future.
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Much more we can get into. Before you go, let
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the audience know how they can find out more about you, website,
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all your links.
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Yeah. Okay. So my website is elizabethhancock.com and that's Elizabeth
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with an S, not a Zed. And I'm on YouTube
2315
02:10:04.279 --> 02:10:07.600
at Elizabeth Hancock as well. I have a podcast called
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The Great Awakening Podcast. And I'm also on social media
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at Elizabeth Hancock Author on Instagram and Facebook as well.
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Excellent. Elizabeth, thank you so much. Like I said, we'll
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definitely be doing this again. And until next time, everyone,
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