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Things that you didn't realize still existed
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but for those of us and again, we're talking
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about my mortality again, right? You're all gonna
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remember this Are you doing some are you farting
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right now? You've got mail. The iconic dial -up
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sounded, you've got mail. That's right, folks,
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into the stuff that you did not realize still
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existed. AOL is ending its dial -up internet
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service. That's right at the year of our bug,
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2025. AOL was still running dial -up internet
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service right now. And they had over 160 ,000
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customers in America. that were using dial -up
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internet service. For anybody that grew up in
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early internet days, that dial -up noise and
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the, you've got mail, it's iconic, okay? It was
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cultural zeitgeist thing, right? But AOL has
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announced that they're finally, after 31 years,
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right? 1994, when their first dial -up had full
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internet connection, They are finally turning
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off their dial -up internet service on September
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30th. And I know we're kind of joking about this,
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but in all seriousness, there are many rural
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places in America where dial -up is still the
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only way you can get on the internet, right?
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Because they don't have cable internet, and they
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don't have DSL, they don't have fiber or any
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of those lines run. Also, what are all the grandmas
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going to do? Back to joking. Jay. Two questions
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for you. First off, were you surprised to hear
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that AOL still had dial up internet? Because
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I know I was. And also, what are your thoughts
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on them finally killing it? One. Yeah, I was
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very surprised. And then second, I was surprised
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at the amount of people that are still on dial
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up. Like, I don't understand. You know, I always
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hear like crazy stories about like Spokane, maybe,
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you know, out there like east of the Cascades,
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like, you know, people have to use dial up. I
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don't know. But now this is this is crazy. I
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thought this thing died a long time ago. So did
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I. So did I. There's a part of me that's kind
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of happy that it's existed all this time again
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for the the you've got mail and that that very
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iconic AOL instant messenger noise, right? Okay,
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because that AOL, especially when I was a teenager.
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Oh, boy. Now we got to go help people. These
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these noises that AOL instant messenger had.
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Right. Oh, wait. Let's do it again You're jumping
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for your thing looking to see who got on oh somebody
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Oh, yeah that door opens down Those those those
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im noises, okay Man that was just a thing Why
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would people again most people are you still
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using dial -up to answer chat question from YouTube?
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Because that's all they have like legit. That's
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all they have out there in some of these really
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rural areas like That's what they've got. They
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can still use dial -up internet So I can't it
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just blows my mind I think everybody had AOL.
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Did you have AOL when you were growing up at
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all, Jay? I actually did not. I didn't have a
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so my first computer. I was it was like. 2008.
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Oh, OK. Yeah, I. We were poor. And I. I was like
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very much like kind of an athlete growing up.
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So I started playing soccer second grade. I wasn't
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allowed to drink soda. I couldn't eat fast food.
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I couldn't eat junk food that much. It's kind
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of like a novelty. So I was like kind of behind
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the curve behind the curve. Now, when I was 14,
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I got a job and I think when I was 15, I started
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buying like my own like console games and everything.
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So I bought like Internet. I paid for Internet
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like around. When I say like 16 for like Xbox
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Live, literally, that's all it was for. So so
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yeah, I never had like any of those. Yeah. Back
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in the olden days, we didn't have a well instead.
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Well, we had BBS's and everything was dial up.
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Oh, God. Okay, geez. Again, for an entire generation
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of 90s kids, this was absolutely iconic. Again,
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I'm amused that AOL still exists, and AOL...
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They're finally getting rid of it. That's amazing.
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Uh, we wish you luck in the future aol and everybody
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who's losing their internet for the end of dial
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-up. I'm sorry Uh, oh, yeah now people bring
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up other ones. Yeah, so aol was there then there
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was prodigy was the other big internet service
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and compuserve right and The other thing that
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was iconic about aol and and anybody who remembers
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this is aol used to send out disks right Um They
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would send you discs in the mail, right? And
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you can still buy them on eBay. Oh Here we go,
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this is the one I want because this is the one
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I remember They would send this to you in the
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mail Right and like just pop in this disc and
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you're online Right and they'd send it there'd
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be like a little flyer in there because back
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then you paid for it by the hour You're bought
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your service by the hour and so you pay a rate
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and you'd be like 50 hours a month and Then any
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hour past that you had to pay an additional charge
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and so they they'd hit you with these discs,
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right? That they would just mail out like junk
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mail, right? Floppy disks and eventually we figured
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out how to use them for other stuff And they
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would send you these discs in the mail and you'd
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be like cool 53 hours click You know, and it
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was that was how they grabbed you was was these
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discs they did eventually upgrade to the CDs
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right I I would get a lot of those for some weird
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reason like all the time I would get the CD roms.
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Oh, here we go Here we go 500 hours free on America
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online 5 .0 right Here's your free disc with
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your five hours of free you've got pictures instant
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messenger microsoft internet explorer 5 .0 built
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in there you go um so so stop this one's gonna
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go a little longer there is a part of me that
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misses that version of the internet That was
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the absolute fucking Wild West and it was new
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and so different right and I Don't know if it's
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just nostalgia in my head But I want to say that
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that internet was less toxic right because I
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think everybody was just so fucking excited to
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be there Right. It was like fucking digital Disneyland
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right And I wonder if that's just me or if that's
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Like something that other people feel as well
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like The internet back then just wasn't quite
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as crap like because now it's like in many ways
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we covered here on this show a toxic fucking
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wasteland Right. Um, I mean, what do you think
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do you think it's just progressive? We've we've
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taken it for granted now I Think they actually
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covered this on the Twitter documentary I'm pretty
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sure it was Twitter where they kind of mentioned
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they noticed like when memes started becoming
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a thing and like people really like realizing
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that you could hide behind the internet and you
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can make very insane inappropriate jokes that
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you would never say out loud in your day -to
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-day life make a meme out of it throw it on the
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internet and then like thousands of people would
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laugh and like it and whatever. And it became
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like a very toxic like it just kept going and
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going because I if I recall correctly like Twitter
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had a very like we're not going to take anything
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down stance. So they just let everything happen.
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But yeah, so I would say I mean, I was not a
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part of this Internet that you speak of back
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in the day. But it does make sense. And based
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on that like documentary, I would say, yeah,
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probably, probably a lot less toxic. I don't
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know. I just you guys also had to wait like an
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hour for like. Titties to load, evidently, so
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well, you had ASCII art porn, and for those that
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want to do it, you can go ahead and Google that
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on your own. I'm not going to put it up on my
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stream. OK, but ASCII art. Porn was a thing,
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right? And if you know what ASCII is, you will
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understand, right? And that would load real fast.
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I guess, I'm trying to, there was just times
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that we just didn't use it for that or you were
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just, you were so used to it that you just didn't
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care. You know what I mean? Like it just didn't
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matter. Right, and I think some people in the
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chat are actually googling it right now going
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oh Yeah, I don't know I don't know I find it
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very Interesting I I will say So when I was in
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high school I had a myspace and I would always
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like have to go to my friend's house to like
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update my myspace. Oh, yeah, and I will say that
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I do really miss like the MySpace days like it
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seemed so much better than having Facebook on
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your phone and like what Facebook has evolved
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into currently. Like I remember when everyone
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was switching to Facebook and I was like Facebook
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sucks. Like I want to just like continue using
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MySpace. So yeah. I do miss like the MySpace
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days. My only complaint about MySpace, my biggest
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complaint about MySpace was when I go to somebody's
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page and I wouldn't be expecting it. Like you'd
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load someone's page in and there would always
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be that like three or four second delay. And
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then all of a sudden you'd get blasted with some
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song that they had on their playlist right on
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their MySpace page. You're like, Oh my God, what
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are you listening? Pause. No, stop it. And half
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the time I was like, what in God's name was that?
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Okay. Oh God. And some of them, some of y 'all
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went a little nuts with your HTML on your MySpace
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page and I couldn't read your page anymore. Like
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I was just like, I don't, the color scheme you've
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picked has made this completely unreadable. No
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idea what's happening here. Yeah. I don't know.
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I miss it. I do appreciate the fact that you
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could customize to that level. I think that's
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something that's missing from Facebook and Twitter
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and all those was that that personalization that
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you could do with MySpace. Because Facebook went
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all like hyper clean and like very white. So.
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Yeah. It'll it'll be it'll be interesting to
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see what what the next one is. I keep we now
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have TikTok. Right. We've moved to tiktok now
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has become one of the dominant ones. I'm curious
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what the next really big one's gonna be after
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tiktok. That's That's the one um Yeah Yeah, i'm
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curious what's gonna come next um And we've talked
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about this before
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Things that you didn't realize still existed
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but for those of us and again, we're talking
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about my mortality again, right? You're all gonna
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remember this Are you doing some are you farting
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right now? You've got mail. The iconic dial -up
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sounded, you've got mail. That's right, folks,
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into the stuff that you did not realize still
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existed. AOL is ending its dial -up internet
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service. That's right at the year of our bug,
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2025. AOL was still running dial -up internet
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service right now. And they had over 160 ,000
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customers in America. that were using dial -up
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internet service. For anybody that grew up in
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early internet days, that dial -up noise and
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the, you've got mail, it's iconic, okay? It was
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cultural zeitgeist thing, right? But AOL has
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announced that they're finally, after 31 years,
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right? 1994, when their first dial -up had full
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internet connection, They are finally turning
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off their dial -up internet service on September
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30th. And I know we're kind of joking about this,
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but in all seriousness, there are many rural
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places in America where dial -up is still the
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only way you can get on the internet, right?
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Because they don't have cable internet, and they
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don't have DSL, they don't have fiber or any
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of those lines run. Also, what are all the grandmas
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going to do? Back to joking. Jay. Two questions
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for you. First off, were you surprised to hear
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that AOL still had dial up internet? Because
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I know I was. And also, what are your thoughts
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on them finally killing it? One. Yeah, I was
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very surprised. And then second, I was surprised
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at the amount of people that are still on dial
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up. Like, I don't understand. You know, I always
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hear like crazy stories about like Spokane, maybe,
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you know, out there like east of the Cascades,
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like, you know, people have to use dial up. I
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don't know. But now this is this is crazy. I
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thought this thing died a long time ago. So did
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I. So did I. There's a part of me that's kind
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of happy that it's existed all this time again
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for the the you've got mail and that that very
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iconic AOL instant messenger noise, right? Okay,
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because that AOL, especially when I was a teenager.
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Oh, boy. Now we got to go help people. These
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these noises that AOL instant messenger had.
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Right. Oh, wait. Let's do it again You're jumping
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for your thing looking to see who got on oh somebody
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Oh, yeah that door opens down Those those those
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im noises, okay Man that was just a thing Why
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would people again most people are you still
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using dial -up to answer chat question from YouTube?
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Because that's all they have like legit. That's
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all they have out there in some of these really
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rural areas like That's what they've got. They
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can still use dial -up internet So I can't it
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just blows my mind I think everybody had AOL.
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Did you have AOL when you were growing up at
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all, Jay? I actually did not. I didn't have a
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so my first computer. I was it was like. 2008.
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Oh, OK. Yeah, I. We were poor. And I. I was like
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very much like kind of an athlete growing up.
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So I started playing soccer second grade. I wasn't
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allowed to drink soda. I couldn't eat fast food.
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I couldn't eat junk food that much. It's kind
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of like a novelty. So I was like kind of behind
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the curve behind the curve. Now, when I was 14,
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I got a job and I think when I was 15, I started
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buying like my own like console games and everything.
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So I bought like Internet. I paid for Internet
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like around. When I say like 16 for like Xbox
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Live, literally, that's all it was for. So so
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yeah, I never had like any of those. Yeah. Back
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in the olden days, we didn't have a well instead.
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Well, we had BBS's and everything was dial up.
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Oh, God. Okay, geez. Again, for an entire generation
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of 90s kids, this was absolutely iconic. Again,
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I'm amused that AOL still exists, and AOL...
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They're finally getting rid of it. That's amazing.
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Uh, we wish you luck in the future aol and everybody
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who's losing their internet for the end of dial
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-up. I'm sorry Uh, oh, yeah now people bring
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up other ones. Yeah, so aol was there then there
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was prodigy was the other big internet service
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and compuserve right and The other thing that
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was iconic about aol and and anybody who remembers
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this is aol used to send out disks right Um They
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would send you discs in the mail, right? And
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you can still buy them on eBay. Oh Here we go,
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this is the one I want because this is the one
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I remember They would send this to you in the
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mail Right and like just pop in this disc and
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you're online Right and they'd send it there'd
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be like a little flyer in there because back
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then you paid for it by the hour You're bought
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your service by the hour and so you pay a rate
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and you'd be like 50 hours a month and Then any
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hour past that you had to pay an additional charge
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and so they they'd hit you with these discs,
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right? That they would just mail out like junk
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mail, right? Floppy disks and eventually we figured
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out how to use them for other stuff And they
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would send you these discs in the mail and you'd
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be like cool 53 hours click You know, and it
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was that was how they grabbed you was was these
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discs they did eventually upgrade to the CDs
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right I I would get a lot of those for some weird
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reason like all the time I would get the CD roms.
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Oh, here we go Here we go 500 hours free on America
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online 5 .0 right Here's your free disc with
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your five hours of free you've got pictures instant
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messenger microsoft internet explorer 5 .0 built
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in there you go um so so stop this one's gonna
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go a little longer there is a part of me that
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misses that version of the internet That was
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the absolute fucking Wild West and it was new
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and so different right and I Don't know if it's
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just nostalgia in my head But I want to say that
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that internet was less toxic right because I
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think everybody was just so fucking excited to
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be there Right. It was like fucking digital Disneyland
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right And I wonder if that's just me or if that's
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Like something that other people feel as well
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like The internet back then just wasn't quite
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as crap like because now it's like in many ways
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we covered here on this show a toxic fucking
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wasteland Right. Um, I mean, what do you think
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do you think it's just progressive? We've we've
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taken it for granted now I Think they actually
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covered this on the Twitter documentary I'm pretty
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sure it was Twitter where they kind of mentioned
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they noticed like when memes started becoming
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a thing and like people really like realizing
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that you could hide behind the internet and you
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can make very insane inappropriate jokes that
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you would never say out loud in your day -to
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-day life make a meme out of it throw it on the
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internet and then like thousands of people would
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laugh and like it and whatever. And it became
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like a very toxic like it just kept going and
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going because I if I recall correctly like Twitter
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had a very like we're not going to take anything
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down stance. So they just let everything happen.
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But yeah, so I would say I mean, I was not a
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part of this Internet that you speak of back
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in the day. But it does make sense. And based
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on that like documentary, I would say, yeah,
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probably, probably a lot less toxic. I don't
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know. I just you guys also had to wait like an
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hour for like. Titties to load, evidently, so
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well, you had ASCII art porn, and for those that
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want to do it, you can go ahead and Google that
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on your own. I'm not going to put it up on my
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stream. OK, but ASCII art. Porn was a thing,
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right? And if you know what ASCII is, you will
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understand, right? And that would load real fast.
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I guess, I'm trying to, there was just times
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that we just didn't use it for that or you were
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just, you were so used to it that you just didn't
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care. You know what I mean? Like it just didn't
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matter. Right, and I think some people in the
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chat are actually googling it right now going
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oh Yeah, I don't know I don't know I find it
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very Interesting I I will say So when I was in
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high school I had a myspace and I would always
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like have to go to my friend's house to like
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update my myspace. Oh, yeah, and I will say that
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I do really miss like the MySpace days like it
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seemed so much better than having Facebook on
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your phone and like what Facebook has evolved
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into currently. Like I remember when everyone
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was switching to Facebook and I was like Facebook
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sucks. Like I want to just like continue using
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MySpace. So yeah. I do miss like the MySpace
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days. My only complaint about MySpace, my biggest
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complaint about MySpace was when I go to somebody's
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page and I wouldn't be expecting it. Like you'd
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load someone's page in and there would always
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be that like three or four second delay. And
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then all of a sudden you'd get blasted with some
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song that they had on their playlist right on
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their MySpace page. You're like, Oh my God, what
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are you listening? Pause. No, stop it. And half
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the time I was like, what in God's name was that?
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Okay. Oh God. And some of them, some of y 'all
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went a little nuts with your HTML on your MySpace
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page and I couldn't read your page anymore. Like
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I was just like, I don't, the color scheme you've
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picked has made this completely unreadable. No
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idea what's happening here. Yeah. I don't know.
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I miss it. I do appreciate the fact that you
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could customize to that level. I think that's
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something that's missing from Facebook and Twitter
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and all those was that that personalization that
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you could do with MySpace. Because Facebook went
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all like hyper clean and like very white. So.
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Yeah. It'll it'll be it'll be interesting to
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see what what the next one is. I keep we now
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have TikTok. Right. We've moved to tiktok now
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has become one of the dominant ones. I'm curious
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what the next really big one's gonna be after
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tiktok. That's That's the one um Yeah Yeah, i'm
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curious what's gonna come next um And we've talked
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about this before
