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00:00:21.777Hello everybody and welcome to the Destroyed Entertainment Podcast.
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00:00:22.777My name is Eden Carpenter.
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00:00:24.650How's it going, mitchell, the Destroyed Entertainment Podcast?
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00:00:25.152My name is Eden Carpenter.
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00:00:28.753How's it going, mitchell?
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00:00:48.630I've been applying to jobs lately, thinking about becoming a what's known as a clinical research associate, and I would be doing some traveling through the Midwest, if I get the one that I want Beautiful Midwest, a beautiful Midwest.
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00:00:50.104And who is that?
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00:00:54.948I was about to say I haven't introduced the other guy yet and he's talking already.
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00:00:57.261Yeah, guys, this is a first for us.
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00:01:03.984We have actually a guest on the show and it's going to be as confusing as possible because his name is also Mitchell.
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00:01:05.427I'm joined by Mitchell Meyer.
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00:01:14.009Hello, my name is Mitchell, but we shall refer to me as TheAlphaStep, the full name.
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00:01:19.608I'll probably end up just calling him Alpha.
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00:01:26.105And for people who don't know other, mitch and I we've known each other since the first year of college.
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00:01:30.769Yeah, and we had a YouTube channel together.
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00:01:40.290I'm pretty much the only one that still does anything with that YouTube channel, but we all went by different aliases, so on occasion I've accidentally called myself Will Goodnight on here.
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00:01:43.765That was my alias, and then Mitch was called Alpha Step.
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00:01:51.768So if I call him, yeah what I was about to ask if you had used your pseudonym Will previously.
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00:01:57.927I've done it accidentally and I've also accidentally said hey, welcome to WAC Game.
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00:02:02.542Oh wait, that's not the podcast, that's my YouTube show.
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00:02:06.343And then Mitch usually laughs but yeah, we have a guest.
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00:02:12.274Today we're going to be going over a total of four albums and let's see if I can get all of these right.
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00:02:25.780We're going to go over a famous Last Words album, a Ice Nine Kills record, and then I'll explain more of how we went through this.
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00:02:28.150And then we'll also go through a Gojira and a Black Dahlia murder record.
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00:02:42.508So what we ended up doing was, when we contacted Alpha to do the show, we decided that he would give us two albums one album each and then Mitch and I would both give him an album.
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00:02:53.903So Alpha is going to be going over the Black Dahlia murder album and the Gojira album later, and then I'm going to go over the famous let's Words record and Mitch is going to go over the Ice Nine Kills record.
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00:02:54.945Everybody's excited.
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00:03:01.871Oh very excited, yeah, totally 100%, always Full of energy.
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00:03:05.685But let's start off by going like Alpha how are you?
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00:03:13.816Why did we invite you onto this show and how is everything?
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00:03:15.643I'm doing really good.
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00:03:19.772So, yeah, will and I used to play games a lot in the past on our YouTube channel.
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00:03:26.800We kind of a lot of us kind of fell off the YouTube channel, but yeah, we used to do streams back in the day and I've taken that knowledge.
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00:03:31.084And now I kind of do car stuff because for some reason I don't like having money, uh.
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00:03:34.247But yeah, if you guys, I'm going to obviously shout this out over on Instagram.
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00:03:51.734So, if you guys are here for my Instagram, thank you guys for coming over, and if you're not, I won't bore you with car talk because you probably don't want to hear about it, uh, but instead we're going to talk about metal.
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00:03:52.804Uh, we're going to talk about some of the most elite bands out there.
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00:03:54.676I'm talking attila mainly just talking about franz.
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00:03:55.361Actually, I think, is that really what we're here to talk about today?
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00:03:58.074Oh really, um, I gotta be honest, we're more of a cory taylor family.
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00:04:00.597This is true we are a cory taylor family.
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00:04:04.508Cory taylor we haven't had a cory taylor says news in a while.
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00:04:06.260That's true we haven't.
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00:04:09.566I really wanted to commit to the bit and shit on Corey Taylor but I can't.
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00:04:10.603I like Corey Taylor too much.
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00:04:14.049I was just gonna try to beef it up here in the podcast.
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00:04:15.525I can't man.
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00:04:24.646I like Corey, but Corey and Slipknot as a whole right now are kind of like what's going on with Slipknot?
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00:04:25.927Because they got rid of.
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00:04:29.574Wait, who else did they fire?
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00:04:31.865Jay Weinberg left.
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00:04:35.026I know that the drummer I mean a while ago.
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00:04:39.346Wasn't Chris Fenn fired?
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00:04:46.608Yes, he was fired Is that really Corey, though, because my understanding is he joined the band later.
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00:04:53.651Well, him and Clown are basically the two de facto leaders of the band at this point.
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00:04:56.783Oh, and it's to the point.
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00:05:00.829Speaking of Clown, we'll go back into your story here in a minute.
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00:05:03.348Alpha, this was a new story I kind of forgot about.
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00:05:05.326I don't know if we talked about it on the last episode or not.
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00:05:06.461Maybe we did which.
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00:05:14.168To put it in context, when we're recording this, the last episode hasn't even gone out yet and it was covering um crap.
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00:05:16.521Mitch, do you remember what the last episode was?
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00:05:17.706Uh, the records.
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00:05:23.622Yeah, uh, ancients, and uh, what did I listen to?
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00:05:28.713Oh, that local band that I always forget the name, yes, Carrion Vale.
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00:05:33.187Yes, yeah, carrion Vale and Ancients, just to put it in perspective, when we're recording this.
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00:05:38.019So it's after that, but we haven't even put that episode out yet because I am really good at editing.
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00:05:54.185But Clown apparently came out and said that Joey Jordison wasn't a founding member of the band, when he totally was and has been referred to as such since the beginning, and people got very upset with him.
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00:06:06.802They're like people are accusing of him of trying to like erase Joey from the band, which I don't know why you would do that, yeah, I mean either, especially cause you know the guy died.
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00:06:09.266Yeah, like, why are you being a dick?
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00:06:11.550I'm just realizing who joey jordison is.
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00:06:14.182Oh yeah, that's pretty shitty.
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00:06:21.300Yeah, definitely that's insane I'm I'm secretly a huge fan of clown, like totally.
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00:06:34.355But definitely yeah, sean crann's my favorite musician I too can bongo, bongo the drums and steel kegs with bats I forgot about the steel keg.
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00:06:47.805One of my biggest regret is that I didn't go with you guys that one of those slipknot concerts eighth and I specifically remember you inviting me to join you guys and since I I don't know why, but I love sitting down to watch bands live.
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00:06:51.144I don't really care so much to, you know, listen to like the edited versions.
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00:06:56.764If I'm just chilling out having a drink, scrolling my computer, I'm listening to the live versions.
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00:06:58.908I love listening to slipknot live.
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00:07:03.526They put on such a good show they do put on a good show and uh.
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00:07:04.488So I don't know.
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00:07:06.492We'll obviously get into it here in a little bit.
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00:07:10.971I don't know how you feel about the Black Dahlia murder fully yet.
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00:07:13.387I haven't watched them live, so I don't.
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00:07:15.425They put on a great show.
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00:07:19.781There is a thing from when they did Warped Tour and that live video.
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00:07:23.168I'm not big on live videos, but that video is really, really fun.
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00:07:26.233I might send it to you just to have you experience it.
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00:07:30.047Yeah, live videos are cool.
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00:07:30.903I've been getting into that.
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00:07:38.261Recently there's a band that Mitch and I listen to called Septic Flesh, and they have a live video out.
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00:07:44.281I forget what it's called, it's in Latin or something, and it's a fantastic live video as well.
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00:07:45.827But not only a live video.
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00:07:47.824You can watch the full concert.
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00:07:52.249Yeah, so it's edited to where it sounds better.
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00:07:54.307But yeah, I don't know.
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00:08:00.447Well, what makes that one unique is the fact that it's with the full live choir and orchestra.
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00:08:06.060Yes, because Septic Flesh is a symphonic death metal band.
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00:08:12.766I think I've shown them to you, actually, mitch, and you better have liked them, mitch, you better have liked them.
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00:08:14.764Now I have to play that game.
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00:08:16.302Which Mitch is he talking about?
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00:08:20.165Oh yes, I'm clearly talking to Mitchell.
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00:08:38.628By the way, that live album album is infernus in fornica and then 2000.
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00:08:41.210Yeah, I wonder why I never remember it.
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00:08:53.166I should know with 2019, okay that's because it's latin numerals ah, yes, I forgot about that, uh, but yeah also hold on, go ahead, hold on.
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00:08:59.722I get to talk about my live records that I like, so, all right, I apologize.
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00:09:16.291Uh, I constantly relive the uh, goj and Opeth at Red Rocks live concerts, because I was actually at the recording of that Love, that it was such a good show and I even had the Opeth vinyl of that show, hmm.
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00:09:20.349So, yeah, that's the one I really like.
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00:09:31.792You know, I'm not, I, my wife is supposed to be into it, but we don't actually have a vinyl record player I.
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00:09:35.144That's a big barrier to entry yeah, it's a pretty big barrier to entry.
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00:09:35.847You know what?
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00:09:37.034Maybe she I think she had one.
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00:09:40.264She didn't bring it in when she moved, anyway, I don't what.
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00:09:42.246What's the appeal to vinyl record?
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00:09:46.173Is it just kind of like a collection thing, or is it an audio quality thing?
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00:09:47.274It's both.
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00:09:49.748It does have a different sound to it.
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00:09:52.066It's a lot, I don't know.
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00:09:53.690I would call it softer and warmer.
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00:09:56.317Interesting and sound.
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00:09:58.708I'm making a jerking off motion, by the way.
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00:10:00.825It's so warm.
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00:10:03.503Shut up Softer and warmer.
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00:10:05.850It is actually.
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00:10:08.844There is a difference in how vinyl is usually mixed.
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00:10:30.139So a lot of the times with vinyl because literally the needle is moving in response to the actual audio waves that you would see in Audacity or Reaper or something like that the bass, the low end, is usually mixed in mono, which is kind of typical, especially in metal nowadays in general.
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00:10:45.446But in vinyl specifically, the bass is mixed in mono, so it doesn't have to move ridiculously to catch up with the bass, since bass frequencies are slower and treble frequencies are higher or faster rather Interesting Audio things.
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00:10:47.616Slower and, uh, treble frequencies are higher or faster rather interesting.
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00:10:59.125You're getting into some things yeah, I was gonna say you're getting into some things that it's like I, I don't know I might find interesting mechanically, but I have no idea what you're speaking that's fair.
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00:11:06.475That's how I am when you talk to me about cars, though, except it literally is mechanically Right Mechanics.
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00:11:12.557But yeah, so you do TikTok, right?
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00:11:14.143Yeah, I guess I didn't really get into that.
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00:11:17.692So I started posting videos on TikTok, mainly of car racing.
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00:11:22.351I had a video on my phone and I was like, hey, I already have this TikTok thing so I'll post it here.
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00:11:25.769And I just remember it did like 4,000 views.
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00:11:30.532And I remember thinking like, holy shit, I'm going to be somebody.
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00:11:37.559And now it's gotten to the point where if I don't break like 100,000, I'm like all right, let's not quite 100,000.
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00:11:39.447If it doesn't do like 10,000, I'm a little upset.
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00:11:45.590I had a series that was really popular with mechanics and engineers called Engineer Explains.
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00:11:50.107Done well, a couple million views on a couple of videos.
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00:11:56.072I would probably say collectively across all social medias probably 15 million views, I'd guess.
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00:11:58.065And then after that, yeah.
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00:11:59.409I had a couple of those do well.
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00:12:09.860I mean, I had, like, one on YouTube that did 3 million, one on TikTok that did 1 and a half million and a couple others that did maybe a million or at least a couple hundred thousand.
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00:12:18.504I got really lucky with that series because the first one I filmed was actually two weeks after I had my son and I was home.
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00:12:20.070I was off work for a short period of time.
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00:12:22.147I was fucking tired, no sleep.
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00:12:32.690I was trying to figure out what the hell was happening in life, how to take care of this child, and I remember I was like man, I should really film a TikTok today and I saw this video making fun of engineers.
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00:12:34.013So I did it in reverse.
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00:12:37.672It was a meme about me driving to work listening to metal music.
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00:12:44.697I actually was using a Lorna Shortrack and it was me going to work to make a mechanics job harder on purpose.
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00:12:53.946You know that was kind of the whole like meme and it did well and I kept doing it and uh, yeah, that was that was doing really well towards the end of last year.
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00:12:57.100Uh, you'd be shocked by the amount of people that missed.
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00:13:00.206Obvious, fucking sarcasm it's no.
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00:13:01.850No, I'm not surprised at all.
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00:13:08.546Not surprised that that's the internet, baby no, you, you know people are going to miss sarcasm, but I'm telling you you get my comments.
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00:13:12.388There are some people that are legitimately fully offended by me making an obvious joke.
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00:13:14.626I mean death threats, you name it.
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00:13:16.006It's insane.
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00:13:18.869Oh, so you've gotten legit death threats.
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00:13:21.543You're in league with Christian black metal artists.
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00:13:27.932Oh well, it's funny, you mentioned Christian black metal artists.
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00:13:31.636Oh well, it's funny you mentioned Christian black metal artists but it's all good, we live in Indiana.
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00:13:34.980Yeah, but the Christian black metal artists deserve it.
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00:13:36.322That's not okay.
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00:13:41.351To put it in context, because I don't know if Alpha knows if we're being.
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00:13:44.303There is a genre of music called black metal.
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00:13:45.668Yep, I know black metal.
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00:13:47.532Okay, I, I didn't.
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00:13:47.793I.
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00:13:52.125I was explaining black metal to somebody before and I think they were.
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00:14:00.782They thought I was talking about race and I think they got mad until I clarified no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no out of norway.
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00:14:04.850Oh, okay, you know, you know it would be really fun.
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00:14:27.187Can we do a bit here in a little bit where we talk about different genres of metal metal and I tell you what I think it is, and then you guys correct me, and then all the metal heads can laugh at me because, oh, we'll say, we'll say there are definitely some metal trivia things that I've done with mitch in the past, but the thing is you wouldn't have any idea for some of these.
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00:14:31.886I think that's what you guys would like, though Loudwire genres.
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00:14:37.509When you say black metal, I'm like, oh yeah, I know of a couple of Chelsea Grand black metal songs.
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00:14:38.984Oh, my God.
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00:14:41.287I knew that was fucking coming.
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00:14:43.546That's why I brought it up.
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00:14:48.163That's why I brought it up.
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00:15:00.474When I say that Chelsea Grin is black metal, I'm not saying that Chelsea Grin is black metal, but I feel like I know what black metal influences are and I think I know what black metal portions of songs sound like.
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00:15:08.370I don't go out of my way to listen to full-on black metal, but maybe a breakdown is inspired by the black metal genre.
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00:15:29.932I can't think of any specifics off my off the top, oh yeah black metal, very famously known for all of its breakdowns see, this is exactly what I was pointing to yeah, so, um, I get what you're saying, and Chelsea Grin does have is blackened deathcore these days, yes.
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00:15:32.288So, yes, they have some black metal influence.
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00:15:34.388Black metal does not really have breakdowns.
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00:15:38.528I should give you some black metal.
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00:15:43.032I kind of want to hear a black metal band with a breakdown.
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00:15:45.948Just I feel it would make my blood boil.
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00:15:51.884Now I'm questioning what black metal is.
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00:15:55.091You know what I found?
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00:16:01.989A uh, I found a list of on on loud wire called 10 metal sub genres that need serious explaining.
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00:16:10.389So I I think what I'll do later is I'm going to tell you what the genre is and I want you to try to explain that genre.
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00:16:11.844Me or both of us.
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00:16:13.248Oh, I got this.
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00:16:14.130I know all metal.
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00:16:15.556No, just you, I know all metal.
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00:16:16.778I'm the metal expert.
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00:16:16.960Let's go.
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00:16:19.787Hey, ethan is PG on there.
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00:16:24.923Pg, I'm trying not to say the title.
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00:16:29.982Oh, oh uh, yes, it is good, so I just want to give you guys my qualifications.
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00:16:43.365Uh, I got like four motionless and white songs, so I think I've got the metal genre covered let's go, that makes yeah, no, that works, that works totally, oh yeah yeah mu, they're my favorite band, just for the record.
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00:16:46.392I specifically chose that band because I knew that it would rub you guys wrong.
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00:16:49.229Alright, let's go oh, do you want to do this now?
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00:16:51.908let's do it now, like why interview the guy when we can?
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00:16:53.299Just this would be fucking hilarious.
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00:16:55.708Alright, that's fine.
00:16:55.708 -->
00:17:00.059I'm building an RX-8, which is where I was going next alright, alpha.
00:17:00.826 -->
00:17:06.009These are 10 metal sub-dramas that need serious explaining, and some of these are actually kind of obvious.
00:17:06.009 -->
00:17:09.907So, starting off, I want you to tell me what pirate metal is.
00:17:10.829 -->
00:17:11.570Pirate metal.
00:17:11.570 -->
00:17:14.846Oh my God, I'm so glad that that's a thing, but I've never heard it.
00:17:14.846 -->
00:17:16.250Pirate metal, obviously.
00:17:16.250 -->
00:17:21.952So pirate metal is going to be any metal that yells ARG as the breakdown callout.
00:17:21.952 -->
00:17:25.228So any day to remember, remember.
00:17:25.228 -->
00:17:28.223But instead of you know, no, you know what.
00:17:28.223 -->
00:17:29.346Actually I'm gonna go with a better one.
00:17:29.346 -->
00:17:31.372Oh fuck, who's the band that does arf?
00:17:31.372 -->
00:17:37.932Arf knocked loose so it's knocked loose, but instead of arf, arf, it's arg, arg.
00:17:37.932 -->
00:17:41.102That's so much better than what I thought.
00:17:41.261 -->
00:17:44.865I hate you this is Should I give you my best, arg-arg.
00:17:44.865 -->
00:17:49.171I want you to give us your best, arg-arg.
00:17:49.371 -->
00:17:51.192Thank you, alcohol for the lubricant.
00:17:51.192 -->
00:17:51.894I need to do this.
00:17:51.894 -->
00:17:52.275Are you ready?
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00:18:00.704Yeah, no, but you have to come up with a line before it and you could do the knocked loose line if you want and try to make it pirate themed.
00:18:00.965 -->
00:18:03.406Wait, what which line are you talking about?
00:18:05.839 -->
00:18:06.080In that song.
00:18:06.080 -->
00:18:10.541So I have actually really gotten into Knocked Loose lately and I've gotten into making fun of Knocked Loose.
00:18:10.541 -->
00:18:12.147Shut up, Mitch.
00:18:13.162 -->
00:18:14.592I'm trying to think what that line is.
00:18:15.638 -->
00:18:17.847I think I wrote a song about getting better.
00:18:17.847 -->
00:18:19.986It's a feeling I can't remember.
00:18:21.309 -->
00:18:24.848Arf, arf, Wait now I actually have to do vocals Okay.
00:18:28.720 -->
00:18:28.855Oh no Well, arf, arf.
00:18:28.855 -->
00:18:29.067Wait, now I actually have to do vocals, okay.
00:18:29.067 -->
00:18:30.431Oh no well, you gotta turn it into a pirate pun first.
00:18:30.431 -->
00:18:30.976You don't have to do it immediately.
00:18:31.180 -->
00:18:37.866Oh wait, I gotta do this pirate okay this makes it easy you can even like plug and plug it into chat GPT if you want.
00:18:37.866 -->
00:18:40.902I wrote a song about getting better.
00:18:40.902 -->
00:18:43.846It's a feeling I can't remember arg, arg.
00:18:43.920 -->
00:18:45.913yeah, that sounds like a little storm out getting better.
00:18:45.913 -->
00:18:46.839It's a feeling I can't remember Arrgh, arrgh.
00:18:46.839 -->
00:18:50.541Yeah, that sounds like Ale Storm Alright that's Pirate Metal.
00:18:50.561 -->
00:18:58.528We got Pirate Metal covered Give me another one, that's no, we still got nine more of these to do, wait, hold on, but you know what?
00:18:58.528 -->
00:19:07.607Mitch, I actually want you to post in the chat for every genre, like a band from every genre.
00:19:07.607 -->
00:19:13.148We talk about Okie dokie, so that way Mitch can look at it at his own time.
00:19:13.148 -->
00:19:16.444Or Alpha, can we have another one?
00:19:16.444 -->
00:19:18.704This one's a lot, and you know what?
00:19:18.704 -->
00:19:19.227Here we go.
00:19:19.227 -->
00:19:21.326They also list some bands to know.
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00:19:22.189So are you ready, mitch?
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00:19:27.883Yep, and just know I'm going to go between calling you Mitch and Al for this entire time I apologize.
00:19:27.821 -->
00:19:32.128Pirate metal bands to know Swashbuckle I've never heard of them actually, I actually haven't heard of them either.
00:19:32.128 -->
00:19:34.227Fitting name and Running Wild.
00:19:34.227 -->
00:19:40.047And then, obviously, aelstorm is the one that we know, aelstorm or Hailstorm.
00:19:40.819 -->
00:19:42.584Ael, as in the drink.
00:19:42.584 -->
00:19:53.132Okay, I was gonna say it was like if hailstorm's pirate metal, that sounds non-piratey okay and then, um, there's a blurb for every genre too.
00:19:53.152 -->
00:19:54.280Would you like me to read the blurb?
00:19:54.280 -->
00:19:54.823Please do.
00:19:54.823 -->
00:19:59.580Picture patchy the pirate from spongebob squarepants doing vocals for a metal band.
00:19:59.580 -->
00:20:02.086That is pretty much pirate metal in a in.
00:20:02.086 -->
00:20:08.847As with Blank, because this is also the genre they name is also on this list.
00:20:08.847 -->
00:20:11.987Okay, pirate metal relies heavily on thematic concepts.
00:20:11.987 -->
00:20:18.984Get nautical with bands such as Swashbuckle, who love nothing more than drinking rum, and yo-ho-hoing with their keytars and salty wenches.
00:20:18.984 -->
00:20:23.204Did that tell you what pirate metal is all about?
00:20:23.385 -->
00:20:27.989Yes, and I looked up like three seconds just while you were talking of this Aelstorm.
00:20:27.989 -->
00:20:30.026Not let down at all.
00:20:30.026 -->
00:20:35.829If you guys need to listen to Pirate Metal, this fucking Kielhald song is the perfect example.
00:20:35.829 -->
00:20:36.811This is amazing.
00:20:37.682 -->
00:20:38.846I do not know that song.
00:20:38.846 -->
00:20:41.559I know they have a song called Mexico.
00:20:41.559 -->
00:20:44.913I think they have a song just called Drink.
00:20:45.336 -->
00:20:46.200Yeah, they have Drink.
00:20:46.200 -->
00:20:48.684I was going to do that one until I saw Key hauled.
00:20:49.980 -->
00:20:50.403Am I allowed?
00:20:50.423 -->
00:20:51.105to curse by the way.
00:20:51.688 -->
00:20:57.005Yeah, I just I don't curse on the podcast, or I try not to.
00:20:57.539 -->
00:21:04.740And then Mitch also tries not to and then fails miserably all the time.
00:21:04.760 -->
00:21:05.820Okay, this next one.
00:21:05.820 -->
00:21:08.122Are you ready for the next one?
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00:21:10.284Alpha, absolutely Alright.
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00:21:11.044This next one.
00:21:11.044 -->
00:21:12.505It's a lot different.
00:21:12.505 -->
00:21:13.625It's a big switch.
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00:21:16.106This is Porno Grind.
00:21:16.106 -->
00:21:17.767Can you tell me what Porno Grind is?
00:21:17.767 -->
00:21:19.347I've heard you play Porno Grind.
00:21:19.347 -->
00:21:21.209You have not.
00:21:21.209 -->
00:21:22.670You have not heard me play Porno Grind.
00:21:22.670 -->
00:21:23.730I've heard you play Porno Grind.
00:21:23.931 -->
00:21:50.808I'm pretty sure it was when we lived together and those dickheads came into our room and we had to get them out and I started playing obnoxious dubstep and you started playing the most obnoxious metal and I'm going to get this styling wrong because I'm not a vocalist, but I want to say there was a bunch of pig squeals and it was just things that I didn't understand and it was amazing and it ticked off the people that kept coming in our damn dorm room.
00:21:51.932 -->
00:21:58.212Yeah, so Mitch, in our first year of college we were stuck in the rec room of Ball Hall.
00:21:58.512 -->
00:21:58.693Yep.
00:22:01.144 -->
00:22:05.865So people liked to come in and yell at us like we want to play ping pong, yeah, Like sorry, we sleep here.
00:22:05.884 -->
00:22:07.269A little background.
00:22:07.269 -->
00:22:11.611This was an old living space and there was no.
00:22:11.611 -->
00:22:18.450This was an old living space and there was no AC, except for in our room, because it was a rec room.
00:22:18.900 -->
00:22:25.250Nobody was supposed to live in there, but they brought too many people in, so they rolled in some cots and said here you go, here's a room, sleep here.
00:22:25.250 -->
00:22:34.510Well, people will come in and hang out, because we had AC and they didn't, and sometimes we didn't want people in, so we would play porno, grind and dubstep, you know just a good time.
00:22:34.651 -->
00:22:37.623Oh and and rucka, rucka, ali, all at the same time.
00:22:37.623 -->
00:22:39.746Forget rucka.
00:22:39.965 -->
00:22:42.348Oh my God, does that guy still have a career?
00:22:43.290 -->
00:22:44.852Yes, he does that is amazing.
00:22:44.852 -->
00:22:47.195All right, but tell me what?
00:22:47.195 -->
00:22:47.556What do you?
00:22:47.556 -->
00:22:51.067Or have you already given your explanation of porno grind?
00:22:51.888 -->
00:22:52.811Oh no, I guess I haven't.
00:22:52.811 -->
00:22:58.127Um, I'm trying to think do I want to go meme or do I want to go serious?
00:22:59.039 -->
00:23:01.924Do it seriously, because it's going to be a meme.
00:23:02.746 -->
00:23:07.634I just remember there was a bunch of pig squeals, but I don't know how to describe it because I have no idea what the fuck was going on.
00:23:09.460 -->
00:23:10.064And I'm not even going to it.
00:23:10.064 -->
00:23:12.981That is pretty much the perfect description of any grindcore See.
00:23:13.021 -->
00:23:16.586I told you, I'm the metal elitist, I am the metal scientist.
00:23:17.902 -->
00:23:19.480So porno grind yeah, would you?
00:23:19.500 -->
00:23:20.663call.
00:23:20.663 -->
00:23:26.473Let me give a guess, because I've actually done everything in my power to avoid porno grind.
00:23:26.473 -->
00:23:29.747Is it just grindcore that's very hyper-sexualized?
00:23:30.869 -->
00:23:44.126Yes, Okay, oh, and it's usually not just sexualized, it's usually like Very rapey Rapey, very anti-woman, pretty much incels the whole shebang.
00:23:44.247 -->
00:23:47.093Oh shit, I might like this stuff, then Joking.
00:23:48.401 -->
00:23:54.950There's like a black metal band out of France called oh God, what are they called?
00:23:55.780 -->
00:23:56.684Was it Come Face?
00:23:56.684 -->
00:23:57.026No.
00:23:58.941 -->
00:24:00.204I said a black metal band.
00:24:01.950 -->
00:24:07.830Yes, so there's even infighting amongst elitist metalheads about what genres are that's?
00:24:07.900 -->
00:24:12.028all I needed to know yeah, um, but he did a porno.
00:24:12.028 -->
00:24:12.869Grind uh.
00:24:13.009 -->
00:24:15.181Record the lead singer that's what I'm thinking of.
00:24:15.181 -->
00:24:17.907I think in the I think the porno grind record was come face.
00:24:17.948 -->
00:24:32.650Yeah, it was the guy from uh death spell omega yeah, death spell, omega, uh, and it had like some child stuff in it and it was like creepy oh nope, that's a good way to, that's a good way to never mind.
00:24:32.650 -->
00:24:35.646I'm not gonna say that that's a good way to not listen to it.
00:24:35.686 -->
00:24:45.894Yeah, you're right, I was gonna say it's a good way to taste a 12 gauge, but oh, oh, no, that's hot actually, yeah uh, that that fits in porno grind as well.
00:24:47.122 -->
00:24:54.287Here's some bands from porno grind that they give Gut G-U-T Okay Cock and ball torture.
00:24:54.287 -->
00:24:55.493I've heard of them.
00:24:56.116 -->
00:24:56.640I've heard of that.
00:24:57.604 -->
00:24:58.607And rop prop.
00:25:00.381 -->
00:25:01.204Rop prop.
00:25:02.962 -->
00:25:04.191If that's how you pronounce it, I don't know.
00:25:04.191 -->
00:25:04.432Interesting.
00:25:04.432 -->
00:25:05.076And here's how you pronounce it.
00:25:05.076 -->
00:25:05.579I don't know, interesting.
00:25:05.579 -->
00:25:07.224And here's the blurb.
00:25:07.224 -->
00:25:16.164This is where the oversized chalkboard with the metal family tree gets rolled out into the classroom and Jack Black feverishly tries to explain subgenres of subgenres of metal.
00:25:16.164 -->
00:25:19.986First came grindcore, then came goregrind, then came pornogrind.
00:25:19.986 -->
00:25:23.833Pornogrind was fathered by German metal band Gut in 1991.
00:25:23.833 -->
00:25:27.968The name pretty much nails the description Pun very much intended as Porno.
00:25:27.968 -->
00:25:36.539Grind is a type of metal that features Ridiculously sexual band names and song titles, such as Gut's Let Me Be your Sperm Factory and the Comeback 2006.
00:25:36.539 -->
00:25:40.960The subject matter and imagery are pornographic, but good luck understanding low garbling vocals.
00:25:40.960 -->
00:25:43.228I've never listened to Gut.
00:25:43.228 -->
00:25:45.949That's an extremely accurate definition of gut.
00:25:47.122 -->
00:25:49.865They have a an album called disciples of smut.
00:25:49.865 -->
00:25:53.345It's called what Disciples of smut?
00:25:53.345 -->
00:25:54.846It's from 2020.
00:25:56.201 -->
00:25:56.843What is smut?
00:25:57.705 -->
00:25:58.188What do you mean?
00:25:58.188 -->
00:25:58.990What is smut?
00:25:59.601 -->
00:26:00.525I don't know what smut means.
00:26:00.525 -->
00:26:02.645I could take some guesses.
00:26:04.861 -->
00:26:07.990Ethan, have your parents had the talk with you.
00:26:07.990 -->
00:26:09.847That's exactly what I thought it was going to be.
00:26:11.180 -->
00:26:13.067Alpha, have your parents had the talk with you?
00:26:13.067 -->
00:26:14.523I'm kind of concerned now.
00:26:15.828 -->
00:26:16.431What happened.
00:26:16.431 -->
00:26:18.888I have a one-year-old child, so I think I know how that works.
00:26:20.061 -->
00:26:21.467He doesn't know what smut means.
00:26:22.160 -->
00:26:27.505A fungal disease of grains in which parts of the ear change to black powder no, not corn smut.
00:26:27.505 -->
00:26:32.566Obscene or less?
00:26:32.566 -->
00:26:35.070Lavish talk, writing or pictures.
00:26:35.592 -->
00:26:35.752Yes.
00:26:36.380 -->
00:26:38.608Yeah, so it's like it's sexy talk.
00:26:38.608 -->
00:26:41.994Yeah, smut, it's like it's 2024.
00:26:42.015 -->
00:26:42.720It's 2024.
00:26:42.720 -->
00:26:45.444Oh, oh, oh, I know what.
00:26:45.444 -->
00:26:46.006That is okay.
00:26:46.006 -->
00:26:50.144Yeah, so like 50 shades of gray yeah, that, yes, that would be smut.
00:26:51.106 -->
00:26:54.057Uh, or this book series I was going through where it turned.
00:26:54.057 -->
00:27:04.604It started out as a really good detective story and then, after book 10, they just decided to turn it into porn, and I made it to book 19 before I finally tapped out.
00:27:05.965 -->
00:27:10.790I want to believe this book was called the Sexy Investigator and either was just like.
00:27:10.790 -->
00:27:12.472I wonder what this is.
00:27:12.472 -->
00:27:14.494Oh my gosh it took a turn.
00:27:19.839 -->
00:27:26.431No, it was called Anita Blake, vampire Hunter, something like that, and literally the first 10 books were awesome and then it literally turned into porn on book 11.
00:27:26.431 -->
00:27:36.730And the only reason I kept with it was because on occasion they would get good again and then it would go right back into things falling into Anita's black hole vagina.
00:27:37.451 -->
00:27:39.284So which is good for her.
00:27:39.284 -->
00:27:40.366It's 2024.
00:27:40.386 -->
00:27:47.108I mean good for her, like she man, those books really started sucking.
00:27:47.108 -->
00:27:50.790Anyway, there's 29 of them, by the way.
00:27:52.061 -->
00:27:53.708The porn books started sucking.
00:27:57.446 -->
00:27:59.632Yeah, I made it to book 19 of 29.
00:28:01.121 -->
00:28:02.507I'll tell you what before we go to number eight.
00:28:02.507 -->
00:28:04.483Do you mind if I use restroom real quick.
00:28:05.366 -->
00:28:05.647Yeah, go ahead.
00:28:05.647 -->
00:28:09.348Oh my God, I didn't know it was a vampire detective.
00:28:10.980 -->
00:28:12.146She isn't a vampire.
00:28:12.146 -->
00:28:13.807She was a vampire executioner.
00:28:13.807 -->
00:28:20.170Seriously, the first 10 books were good, I swear.
00:28:20.520 -->
00:28:22.924You say the same thing about the excuse me sorry.
00:28:22.924 -->
00:28:24.435You say Dres thing about the.
00:28:24.435 -->
00:28:27.887Ah, excuse me sorry.
00:28:27.960 -->
00:28:29.523You say Dresden, I'm going to be mad at you.
00:28:32.111 -->
00:28:32.632Mesden.
00:28:34.221 -->
00:28:38.551And the difference is all 18 books of Dresden are good.
00:28:38.551 -->
00:28:39.644That's so many books.
00:28:39.703 -->
00:28:40.788Why are there so many books?
00:28:40.788 -->
00:28:42.666Why do you need to write so many books?
00:28:44.300 -->
00:28:45.766Well, he planned out 25.
00:28:45.846 -->
00:28:46.449Oh, my God.
00:28:49.121 -->
00:29:00.565They're good though they're, and they actually like plant seeds of future stories in the earlier books and he, like you know, like a good writer.
00:29:01.361 -->
00:29:03.127Sounds like they plant seeds in the later books too.
00:29:06.082 -->
00:29:12.825Different series, but I appreciate your joke Just cut that in with the earlier talk.
00:29:12.825 -->
00:29:17.324All right, you ready for the next genre.
00:29:17.664 -->
00:29:18.487I'm absolutely ready.
00:29:19.329 -->
00:29:19.871And we're probably.
00:29:19.871 -->
00:29:21.807I'll probably speed through a couple of these.
00:29:21.807 -->
00:29:23.826I'm ready, Just because we have a lot of them.
00:29:23.826 -->
00:29:26.769Can you explain to me what funeral doom is?
00:29:26.848 -->
00:29:33.383Funeral doom Just going to be down, down to chugs missing grandpa.
00:29:33.383 -->
00:29:35.167Rest in peace, pappy.
00:29:35.188 -->
00:29:38.106Well, okay, actually, part of that is correct.
00:29:42.805 -->
00:29:44.509I feel like that one would be hard to get wrong.
00:29:44.690 -->
00:29:56.913to be fair, Funeral Doom is a subgenre of Doom metal, obviously, and yeah, really really slow and chunky type music.
00:29:56.913 -->
00:30:02.651So you kind of got it Three bands to know Skepticism Evoken and Ahab.
00:30:02.651 -->
00:30:07.906But I will also do Mitch a favor and throw on Swallow the Sun.
00:30:08.441 -->
00:30:10.067Oh, I was going to say Bell Witch.
00:30:11.080 -->
00:30:12.005Oh, bell Witch as well.
00:30:12.005 -->
00:30:16.944Bell Witch has an album called Mirror Reaper, which he just sent.
00:30:16.944 -->
00:30:18.250It is one song.
00:30:18.250 -->
00:30:19.625It is 88 minutes long.
00:30:19.625 -->
00:30:23.16688 minutes, yep.
00:30:23.166 -->
00:30:25.506Yes, well, it's a full album.
00:30:25.506 -->
00:30:30.546So it's not like it's the same thing for 88 minutes, fellow Mitch, but they just didn't split it up.
00:30:30.880 -->
00:30:31.501Fellow Mitch.
00:30:31.501 -->
00:30:33.469Why is this song an hour and 23 minutes?
00:30:33.469 -->
00:30:35.406Because it's good that way.
00:30:35.406 -->
00:30:37.845Is this one song?
00:30:37.845 -->
00:30:39.049It is one song.
00:30:39.049 -->
00:30:42.368Do they play this for the full funeral, or what?
00:30:43.840 -->
00:30:47.644Well, the song is about death, so yes, please tell me.
00:30:47.724 -->
00:30:51.244They got in the studio and they were like hey guys, actually we can't cut this up.
00:30:51.244 -->
00:30:52.501So this is a one take.
00:30:53.424 -->
00:30:54.670You're going to play it all the way through.
00:30:55.961 -->
00:30:59.366I'll also send you a Swallow the Sun song, so it's easier.
00:31:00.780 -->
00:31:05.306So actually I have listened to Mirror Reaper and Mitch has listened to it multiple times.
00:31:05.306 -->
00:31:07.544It is a very pretty album.
00:31:09.166 -->
00:31:10.288Oh, this is a full album.
00:31:10.308 -->
00:31:11.029This is not a song.
00:31:11.371 -->
00:31:12.071No, it's a song.
00:31:12.172 -->
00:31:14.537Yes, it's a song, but it's a full album.
00:31:14.537 -->
00:31:16.401That's what I was saying it's so.
00:31:16.401 -->
00:31:19.387It's not like it's the same thing for 88 minutes long.
00:31:20.892 -->
00:31:24.923Oh so you're saying this song is the album, correct?
00:31:24.942 -->
00:31:26.944Yes, that's fucking amazing.
00:31:26.944 -->
00:31:34.372They also have another song album that they released recently, which I can't remember the name of.
00:31:35.192 -->
00:31:36.113So here's the blurb.
00:31:36.113 -->
00:31:40.136As if doom metal weren't dreary enough, there's a subgenre called funeral doom.
00:31:40.136 -->
00:31:46.028Funeral doom combines the slow, sludgy nature of doom with the tones of the funeral dirge.
00:31:46.028 -->
00:31:52.460The key element of a true funeral doom song is either the use of an organ or a keyboard that imitates the sound of an organ.
00:31:52.460 -->
00:31:58.769To make things more theatrical, the funeral doom band skepticism loves to wear formal suits and coattails when they play live.
00:32:00.972 -->
00:32:05.326I'm 52 minutes into mirror reaper and actually this is pretty solid.
00:32:05.640 -->
00:32:07.406Hey, you should another fan.
00:32:07.406 -->
00:32:08.542I'm telling you you should.
00:32:08.542 -->
00:32:12.204You should check out mirror Reaper Like, but do they break this out into songs.
00:32:13.267 -->
00:32:15.413No, okay, okay.
00:32:15.413 -->
00:32:25.209Well, it'll be really weird when I add this to my like chill playlist, like just where I want something like vibing does it to when I'm at work, and then I get to one song for an hour and a half.
00:32:26.280 -->
00:32:29.606You're just like this is really good, but this has been going on for a while.
00:32:30.401 -->
00:32:43.971Actually, the first time I heard this, I worked at a pharmaceutical company and they let us listen to music, but it could only be on these MP3 players with no screens.
00:32:43.971 -->
00:33:02.250And so I was listening to Bailicore, which is a melodic death metal band out of Australia, and they ended in a very atmospheric way and it just kept going and going and going and I was like what the fuck?
00:33:02.250 -->
00:33:05.880And I found out later that it had transitioned into Bell Witch's Mirror Reaper.
00:33:05.880 -->
00:33:09.488I was just like Bailicore, what are you doing?
00:33:11.625 -->
00:33:14.311alright, we'll make this one quick.
00:33:14.311 -->
00:33:16.701Mitchell, tell me what Viking Metal is.
00:33:17.202 -->
00:33:19.400Oh, I've got a buddy that's actually really into Viking Metal.
00:33:19.400 -->
00:33:22.048It's very melodic.
00:33:22.048 -->
00:33:23.881It's very fuck.
00:33:23.881 -->
00:33:24.173How do I describe it?
00:33:24.173 -->
00:33:25.182It's very stereotyic.
00:33:25.182 -->
00:33:25.337It's very Fuck how do I describe it?
00:33:25.337 -->
00:33:34.724It's very stereotypical Viking style and sounding, but I very vaguely remember it being extremely melodic.
00:33:36.381 -->
00:33:51.568I love the Amazing World of Gumballs version of Viking Metal, which is, it sounds, like banging a trash can with a battle axe I would have also accepted pirate metal, but about vikings?
00:33:52.691 -->
00:33:53.451that's a good answer.
00:33:54.233 -->
00:34:01.482That's a probably more accurate answer actually the biggest band in that genre is amana marth which is to be fair.
00:34:01.482 -->
00:34:03.267Death metal band, which they are, a melodic death metal band.
00:34:03.267 -->
00:34:06.271Which they are a melodic death metal band.
00:34:06.271 -->
00:34:10.750So that is fair and that is honestly probably the band you heard as well.
00:34:10.750 -->
00:34:14.407Other bands Bathory and Tear.
00:34:15.351 -->
00:34:15.590Okay.
00:34:17.541 -->
00:34:22.530And, honestly, I'm not going to go through the blurb because it's pretty simple it's Viking metal.
00:34:23.211 -->
00:34:25.085I've got a buddy Shout out, my buddy brandon.
00:34:25.085 -->
00:34:28.871Uh, he actually went to high school with me and he's really into viking.
00:34:28.871 -->
00:34:34.034I was gonna say viking metal, but I think you guys are gonna be into viking metal.
00:34:34.034 -->
00:34:43.731I think he's gonna be in a viking rock, uh, if I'm gonna guess correctly I am not into viking metal okay, I Okay, I don't know, I don't know.
00:34:43.731 -->
00:34:51.105He showed me a couple of the bands and, uh, they're very fun to listen to, just not really my, my specific flavor.
00:34:52.780 -->
00:34:58.284I was wanting to see if I had any of his songs saved, but I don't at least I don't recognize them.
00:34:59.179 -->
00:35:00.485I think this will be another quick one.
00:35:00.485 -->
00:35:02.822Okay, uh, suicidal black metal.
00:35:03.324 -->
00:35:04.246Suicidal Black Metal.
00:35:04.246 -->
00:35:04.706Suicidal Black Metal.
00:35:04.706 -->
00:35:07.112Cut my Wrist, dot my Eyes and Black Metal for Life.
00:35:07.112 -->
00:35:11.865Yeah, I'm just speedrunning this shit.
00:35:11.885 -->
00:35:28.885Pretty much it's literally Black Metal, but usually slower, more atmospheric, rawer, and then it's usually focused on lyrics that are like negative emotions such as despair and hatred.
00:35:29.360 -->
00:35:29.882Mitch, what's your?
00:35:29.902 -->
00:35:32.967recommendation here I need him to name bands.
00:35:32.967 -->
00:35:34.744I've never heard of Suicidal Black Metal.
00:35:35.987 -->
00:35:37.090Really, you've never heard of it.
00:35:37.090 -->
00:35:45.815So the bands they give is Zaster, x-a-s-t-h-u-r, silencer and Life Lover.
00:35:46.389 -->
00:35:47.768I think you forgot Dad.
00:35:47.768 -->
00:35:48.679You don't understand.
00:35:48.679 -->
00:35:49.844It's not a phase.
00:35:49.844 -->
00:35:53.590I'm sorry.
00:35:57.128 -->
00:36:01.880I'll have to check this out because I'm always into finding new black metal.
00:36:01.880 -->
00:36:10.445That's not racist Black metal that's not racist Black metal that's not racist, ethan, do you want to explain?
00:36:11.347 -->
00:36:14.273Oh God, yeah, so black metal.
00:36:14.273 -->
00:36:21.909There's a surprising amount of black metal musicians that turn out to be neo-Nazis.
00:36:21.909 -->
00:36:23.826That's problematic.
00:36:25.000 -->
00:36:27.108They also like to burn some churches on occasion.
00:36:28.440 -->
00:36:29.588Second wave of black metal.
00:36:29.588 -->
00:36:37.826Second wave of black metal is the reason people I mean it's not the reason people think metal is evil, but it's a big part of it.
00:36:37.826 -->
00:36:49.608The whole burning churches and things of that nature, at least in my opinion, Very pro-Satan, yes, very heavily Satanic imagery.
00:36:49.608 -->
00:36:52.344Varg, Just Varg.
00:36:53.407 -->
00:37:07.630Just, varg, you could leave this in, but it's kind of funny because I listen to a lot more like Satanic music or like Satanic-inspired music, satanic music or like satanic, uh, inspired music, but it's.
00:37:07.630 -->
00:37:10.041It's so funny because my wife is so heavily christian.
00:37:10.041 -->
00:37:14.547Yeah, yeah, it, it's, it's awkward at times.
00:37:14.547 -->
00:37:19.701Black and roll, black and roll okay, yes all right.
00:37:19.701 -->
00:37:22.385Uh, we have some fuck.
00:37:22.385 -->
00:37:24.347What's the character from Lord of the Rings?
00:37:25.068 -->
00:37:25.608Which one?
00:37:25.608 -->
00:37:29.253There's a lot, there's a lot of those, that weird one, I can't do those.
00:37:29.273 -->
00:37:31.766Gollum, gollum, gollum sings rock and roll.
00:37:31.766 -->
00:37:33.585That's black and roll.
00:37:34.460 -->
00:37:39.027So this one I knew existed but I forgot existed.
00:37:39.027 -->
00:37:47.612I know the genre, death and roll, which is literally death metal, but with influences from rock and roll.
00:37:47.612 -->
00:37:48.831Okay, so I assume that's what this is.
00:37:48.831 -->
00:37:49.278I'll tell you what.
00:37:50.440 -->
00:37:51.786Whenever you're done on this, finish this.
00:37:52.260 -->
00:37:53.585Yeah, so bands to know.
00:37:53.585 -->
00:37:56.527Satyricon, later era Keviltrek.
00:37:56.960 -->
00:37:57.885Oh Keviltrek.
00:37:58.400 -->
00:38:00.768Or Keviltek, that's what they say, anyway.
00:38:00.768 -->
00:38:03.025And Vreed.
00:38:05.501 -->
00:38:05.842V-R-E-I-D Mitch.
00:38:05.842 -->
00:38:06.887What's your recommendation here?
00:38:06.887 -->
00:38:08.625I'm doing it now.
00:38:09.784 -->
00:38:18.034The one they give is Keviltrek Bloodthirst, bloodthirst, bloodthirst.
00:38:18.034 -->
00:38:19.103It's B-L-O-D.
00:38:19.103 -->
00:38:21.206T-i'll just hold on.
00:38:21.387 -->
00:38:22.090Bloodthirst.
00:38:22.090 -->
00:38:27.186You're putting a specific pronunciation on it, so I want to make sure I get it right now.
00:38:28.240 -->
00:38:29.284I put a recommendation in.
00:38:29.639 -->
00:38:32.226I'm trying to share Copy link.
00:38:32.547 -->
00:38:33.170Is it actually?
00:38:33.170 -->
00:38:35.666Are you pronounced Like the V is supposed to be there?
00:38:35.666 -->
00:38:43.291It's not like that weird Paris band where it's just outside Bloodthirst, bloodthirst, okay.
00:38:45.474 -->
00:38:46.054I posted it.
00:38:46.054 -->
00:38:49.784I've actually seen these guys live at a Gojira show.
00:38:49.784 -->
00:38:51.768They're pretty good yeah.
00:38:52.409 -->
00:38:53.413Okay, fair enough.
00:38:53.413 -->
00:39:04.710I feel like it's mixed really poorly, this Bloodthirst, because all I hear is guitar and actually I kind of like the vocals Hold on.
00:39:04.820 -->
00:39:05.885I'm going to listen to a second of it.
00:39:05.885 -->
00:39:07.304Skip to 145.
00:39:07.304 -->
00:39:09.385I actually dig this.
00:39:10.420 -->
00:39:12.460Okay, this actually throws down at 145.
00:39:12.460 -->
00:39:14.126This isn't bad, it's just.
00:39:14.126 -->
00:39:16.489I wish the vocals were a little bit louder.
00:39:18.061 -->
00:39:18.804In my opinion.
00:39:18.804 -->
00:39:20.369I think it makes it pretty decently.
00:39:20.369 -->
00:39:23.445The bass is just kind of supporting the guitar.
00:39:23.445 -->
00:39:26.521Interesting.
00:39:26.521 -->
00:39:27.887That's not bad, though I might have to check that out.
00:39:27.887 -->
00:39:30.074Yeah, same Folk metal is basic.
00:39:30.074 -->
00:39:31.500I'm actually going to skip that one.
00:39:31.500 -->
00:39:33.003Yep, hey, I tell you what.
00:39:33.063 -->
00:39:33.545I got an idea.
00:39:33.545 -->
00:39:47.784Give me a lightning round, give me two or three, and I'm going to give you I mean, right off the top of my head, I'm going to give you an answer Death, doom, death, doom, death to everybody.
00:39:47.784 -->
00:39:48.925It's slowed down, be chugged, everybody's gonna die.
00:39:48.945 -->
00:39:54.860Boom, boom next yes, uh post metal uh post malone sings metal next.
00:39:55.601 -->
00:40:05.456I don't actually know battle metal, battle metal uh, I'm picturing similar to like Viking metal or fuck what's up.
00:40:05.456 -->
00:40:11.652I'm going to guess it's very melodic, like old timey, like we're heading into battle Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
00:40:11.652 -->
00:40:13.826I don't know, I forgot the name of the reference.
00:40:13.826 -->
00:40:15.567Oh, dragon force.
00:40:15.567 -->
00:40:17.126I feel like it's very melodic.
00:40:18.722 -->
00:40:19.083Someone.
00:40:19.083 -->
00:40:19.925I'll go, I'll.
00:40:19.925 -->
00:40:22.913I'll go backwards from what we named.
00:40:22.913 -->
00:40:24.724So battle metal is fake.
00:40:24.724 -->
00:40:31.873First of all, I've never heard anybody use the term Battle Metal, but they list Sabaton, manowar and Tarnasus.
00:40:31.873 -->
00:40:33.724Oh, so it is Fuck what's that style?
00:40:34.465 -->
00:40:36.090Power Metal, power Metal.
00:40:36.090 -->
00:40:36.791That's what I was looking for.
00:40:36.791 -->
00:40:37.864You've told me about.
00:40:37.903 -->
00:40:38.286Manowar.
00:40:38.286 -->
00:40:40.567I've told you about Manowar.
00:40:40.567 -->
00:40:42.226I figured I would have told you about Sabaton.
00:40:42.327 -->
00:40:42.626I man o' war.
00:40:42.626 -->
00:40:43.748I figured out what I told you about sabaton.
00:40:43.748 -->
00:40:49.773I am fairly confident you told me about man o' war because I remember I was like I think that we talked one time and I told you I would like the idea of power metal.
00:40:49.773 -->
00:40:55.262I just want it to be more modern because, uh, I actually don't know if you want modern power metal.
00:40:55.483 -->
00:40:57.146Uh mitch, could you grab goblin?
00:40:57.146 -->
00:40:58.831King of the dark storm galaxy.
00:40:59.291 -->
00:41:01.043I could, I could do that.
00:41:01.103 -->
00:41:03.989Why does their name have to be a mouthful Goblin?
00:41:04.050 -->
00:41:08.329Storm of the Wait what Goblin King of the Dark Storm Galaxy.
00:41:08.420 -->
00:41:10.815Goblin King of the Dark Storm Galaxy.
00:41:10.815 -->
00:41:11.679I was pulling a Sabaton.
00:41:12.041 -->
00:41:14.849It's power metal, but in space Interesting.
00:41:16.001 -->
00:41:20.545Okay, I got Stormtroopers by Sabaton and this is battle metal.
00:41:20.545 -->
00:41:21.949Yeah, it's.
00:41:23.081 -->
00:41:23.402Sabaton is.
00:41:23.402 -->
00:41:24.324I guess I would just call it's.
00:41:24.344 -->
00:41:26.028It's a sabotage I'm, I would just call it.
00:41:26.028 -->
00:41:27.211It's one of those things.
00:41:27.211 -->
00:41:28.923Where is it really a genre?
00:41:28.923 -->
00:41:42.201No, but we're going to say it is anyways it's really just power metal, power metal yeah, it's just power metal, but they're about world war one and two oh dude, my buddy likes this song.
00:41:42.601 -->
00:41:47.072He showed me this song which one stormtroopers, sabaton stormtrooper?
00:41:47.780 -->
00:41:49.846okay, gotcha post metal.
00:41:49.846 -->
00:41:50.467Here's the thing.
00:41:50.467 -->
00:41:54.902I don't really know much about post genres what's a good post name?
00:41:54.922 -->
00:41:55.885some of the bands, would you?
00:41:56.547 -->
00:41:59.193neurosis, russian circles and isis.
00:41:59.193 -->
00:42:01.179I'll do russian circles.
00:42:01.961 -->
00:42:03.206What is the post supposed to mean?
00:42:03.827 -->
00:42:06.083It's supposed to be God.
00:42:06.083 -->
00:42:06.907This is what it says.
00:42:06.907 -->
00:42:13.606Yeah, Like other post genres, post metal takes its time expanding upon the fundamental characteristics of the metal genre.
00:42:13.606 -->
00:42:21.510Post metal bands like ISIS tend to focus more on letting the instruments tread winding pathways than attacking with straightforward riffs and vocals.
00:42:21.880 -->
00:42:29.985The band Neurosis were great pioneers of the metal subgenre beginning with their third record, souls at Zero, because I know what post-metalcore is.
00:42:29.985 -->
00:42:32.688Am I thinking of that, correct Ethan Post-metalcore?
00:42:32.869 -->
00:42:33.168That's a.
00:42:33.168 -->
00:42:33.650Thing.
00:42:34.231 -->
00:42:35.373There's post-hardcore.
00:42:35.672 -->
00:42:36.414Post-hardcore.
00:42:36.414 -->
00:42:41.583That's what I'm thinking of, Because I used to listen to a lot of post-hardcore.
00:42:41.583 -->
00:42:43.867I couldn't name the bands of the style now, but I just remember.
00:42:43.887 -->
00:42:45.269Is it Sleeping with Sirens?
00:42:45.269 -->
00:42:47.233Post-hardcore Sounds about right.
00:42:47.233 -->
00:42:49.125And then Death Doom.
00:42:49.125 -->
00:42:50.827You basically got Death Doom right.
00:42:50.827 -->
00:42:57.911It's death metal mixed with doom metal, yeah, and then the bands they give are Paradise Lost, swallow the Sun and my Dying Bride.
00:42:59.141 -->
00:43:00.728I'm not going to post Swallow the Sun again.
00:43:02.320 -->
00:43:06.490This Russian Circles Nosa's song is actually pretty, pretty groovy.
00:43:07.331 -->
00:43:11.585Yeah, I've never listened to post-metal, post-metal is very just like atmospheric and groovy.
00:43:12.409 -->
00:43:14.206Oh this sounds like more of my speed, then.
00:43:15.360 -->
00:43:22.646It's interesting that I think he's probably going to like the songs we have mentioned here more than he liked the records we gave him, that's bad news for you.
00:43:22.646 -->
00:43:36.565I struggle with black dahlia, but we'll get to that, okay, I mean between the two, I figured you would probably like gojira more you're very right.
00:43:36.987 -->
00:43:39.414Uh, did you have any more genres to go through?
00:43:39.974 -->
00:43:41.739that was the list okay.
00:43:42.601 -->
00:43:46.052I think it's pretty safe to assume that I'm like the metal.
00:43:46.052 -->
00:43:47.822He knows more than metal.
00:43:47.822 -->
00:43:49.306Professionado here.
00:43:49.306 -->
00:43:51.052Yeah, he is Okay.
00:43:51.052 -->
00:43:53.407Well, if you guys have any questions about genres, just let me know.
00:43:53.427 -->
00:43:59.913Yeah, of course I also revoke my snob metal to you now.
00:43:59.913 -->
00:44:01.726You can be a metal snob now.
00:44:02.380 -->
00:44:02.559Thank you.
00:44:02.559 -->
00:44:03.181You can be a metal snob now.
00:44:03.181 -->
00:44:11.525Thank you, and I will put that snob metal uh plaque onto atilla, as they are clearly the highest hate you.
00:44:11.646 -->
00:44:21.101I really hate you again I said that on purpose, I know let's uh, let me go through these news articles real quick and then we can go ahead and talk about uh, talk about the records.
00:44:21.101 -->
00:44:21.704How does that sound?
00:44:22.126 -->
00:44:24.373yeah so, uh, off the top.
00:44:24.373 -->
00:44:25.255Jay Weinberg.
00:44:25.255 -->
00:44:27.123He left Slipknot a little while ago.
00:44:27.123 -->
00:44:32.105He has just joined Suicidal Tendencies as their new drummer, so that'll be interesting.
00:44:32.105 -->
00:44:35.389I'm not big into Suicidal Tendencies, but I do like a handful of songs.
00:44:35.389 -->
00:44:45.503Former WWE wrestler and congressional candidate, daniel Rodemare, suspected of Las Vegas murder Jesus, I don't.
00:44:45.503 -->
00:44:49.610Was he named Daniel Rodimer in the WWE?
00:44:49.610 -->
00:44:50.902Hold on?
00:44:50.902 -->
00:44:53.184Oh, he was in WWE for a year.
00:44:53.184 -->
00:44:54.731That doesn't count.
00:44:54.731 -->
00:44:56.884You're asking the wrong.
00:44:56.884 -->
00:45:01.525He was on a developmental contract, so he joined as a trainee.
00:45:01.525 -->
00:45:04.146Let me get this straight.
00:45:04.260 -->
00:45:05.565This guy just got his big break.
00:45:05.565 -->
00:45:10.425He went and worded somebody and now he's like oh, I didn't do it, Don't fire me.
00:45:10.940 -->
00:45:12.744OK, so first of all he was.
00:45:12.744 -->
00:45:15.684He signed a one year developmental contract in 2006.
00:45:16.447 -->
00:45:18.045Oh, that sounds like he came and went.
00:45:18.045 -->
00:45:20.068It sounds like he missed his opportunity.
00:45:20.500 -->
00:45:21.585Yeah, no, he did.
00:45:21.585 -->
00:45:24.646But he's also a congressional candidate, I guess.
00:45:24.646 -->
00:45:27.432But he is suspected of killing a man in Las Vegas last year.
00:45:27.432 -->
00:45:30.347So screw that guy.
00:45:30.347 -->
00:45:36.172And then a death metal band to be featured in hit Disney Plus superhero show.
00:45:36.172 -->
00:45:38.262Oh yeah, I forgot about that one.
00:45:38.262 -->
00:45:41.327Which show Extraordinary.
00:45:41.327 -->
00:45:42.329I've never heard of that.
00:45:42.871 -->
00:45:43.351What band.
00:45:44.152 -->
00:45:44.793Decapitated.
00:45:44.793 -->
00:45:47.963Which I have heard of.
00:45:49.909 -->
00:45:50.601Who is Decapitated?
00:45:50.601 -->
00:45:51.302Describe it.
00:45:51.302 -->
00:45:53.751For us it's Death Metal.
00:45:54.019 -->
00:45:57.596What spheres of madness is that Decapitated I?
00:45:57.637 -->
00:45:58.302think so, it is.
00:45:58.344 -->
00:45:58.849Death Metal.
00:45:59.494 -->
00:46:00.989I'm picturing cattle decapitation.
00:46:00.989 -->
00:46:03.443Just because they share a similar name, ethan, am I far off?
00:46:05.150 -->
00:46:05.391Kind.
00:46:06.860 -->
00:46:08.909You'd be more accurate with cannibal corpse.
00:46:10.740 -->
00:46:12.467This is their most popular song.
00:46:12.467 -->
00:46:17.282I wouldn't say it's my favorite, but most people say Decapitated is a really good band.
00:46:17.282 -->
00:46:19.289I have not dove into them that much.
00:46:19.289 -->
00:46:22.485This intro is really boring.
00:46:24.242 -->
00:46:29.407The fact that Disney is pushing this is incredible to me.
00:46:29.407 -->
00:46:39.356I I don't want to say insane, because it's not unreasonable so the show is on hulu specifically but still it's backed by disney.
00:46:39.356 -->
00:46:43.764I'm shocked that disney well no, not that it's bad, not that it shouldn't be supported, I don't.
00:46:43.764 -->
00:46:44.746I don't mean to say that.
00:46:44.746 -->
00:46:54.347I just don't see disney being like yeah, I choose you you know, disney actually hosts metal concerts in their uh park.
00:46:54.648 -->
00:47:02.994That does surprise me, because disney said wow, I can't say specifically, disney specifically kicked out ice nine kills from one of their concert.
00:47:02.994 -->
00:47:05.476I don't know the full background, I just know ice nine kills was supposed to play a show.
00:47:05.476 -->
00:47:05.739It was from one of their concerts.
00:47:05.739 -->
00:47:13.146I don't know the full background, I just know Ice Nine Kills was supposed to play a show it was on one of the Disney stages, I think and they said no, you're not going to play music on our stage.
00:47:13.467 -->
00:47:17.385They booted them out and Ice Nine Kills made their whole thing for a long time.
00:47:18.840 -->
00:47:19.222What'd you say?
00:47:19.222 -->
00:47:20.184Nothing.
00:47:20.184 -->
00:47:21.992No, don't say it.
00:47:21.992 -->
00:47:40.266It's probably because disney likes good music put up them, dukes, son, and um ice knight made their whole thing for a little while where they were like making fun of mickey mouse and instead of it going after the child in the movie it, it was going after the mickey mouse character on their stage.
00:47:40.266 -->
00:47:43.612They, I mean they, were pretty upset about it for a little while.
00:47:46.682 -->
00:47:47.829Yeah, it sounds like they're pussies.
00:47:47.949 -->
00:47:49.998I was about to say grow up.
00:47:49.998 -->
00:47:56.346So Cannibal Corpse and Cattle Decap are actually banned from playing Disney stages.
00:47:56.346 -->
00:47:57.148I wonder why.
00:47:57.148 -->
00:48:01.827Yeah, I wonder why they do host concerts.
00:48:02.639 -->
00:48:08.927By the way, just for the record, I think Ice Nine played into the whole Disney thing because it sold a lot of merch for a little while.
00:48:08.927 -->
00:48:10.605I mean that's fair.
00:48:10.605 -->
00:48:11.248Yeah.
00:48:11.762 -->
00:48:12.606But still grow up.
00:48:14.820 -->
00:48:15.762I like Ice Nine though.
00:48:16.744 -->
00:48:17.146That's obvious.
00:48:17.166 -->
00:48:18.047We'll get into it.
00:48:18.809 -->
00:48:19.351We'll get there.
00:48:19.371 -->
00:48:19.972We'll get into it.
00:48:19.972 -->
00:48:34.190And then just some really off-the-top stuff Apparently the saboteur, which was a game from oh nine, I think from the studio pandemic, which is a which is a studio that Mitch and I really liked back in the day.
00:48:36.300 -->
00:48:37.907He's talking about a lot of other games went up.
00:48:39.681 -->
00:48:40.806I thought you liked pandemic.
00:48:40.806 -->
00:48:42.394I don't.
00:48:42.414 -->
00:48:44.476I had to look up pandemic like the video game pandemic?
00:48:44.476 -->
00:48:44.914No, the video game company.
00:48:44.914 -->
00:48:44.920I don't.
00:48:44.920 -->
00:48:52.092I had to look up pandemic like the video game pandemic no, the video game company I don't know anything they've made besides mercenaries destroy humans.
00:48:52.179 -->
00:48:58.077Star wars, battlefront uh, they actually have some solid games, son okay, well, battlefront.
00:48:58.157 -->
00:49:03.550I was a huge fan of mercenaries too well like destroy I'm talking out my butt.
00:49:03.670 -->
00:49:05.072A bunch of their games are on Steam.
00:49:05.072 -->
00:49:08.789Now EA decided to take them off of Origin and let them be on Steam.
00:49:08.789 -->
00:49:13.027And then PC Gamer wrote an article saying, hey, we should get a new Mercenaries game.
00:49:13.027 -->
00:49:15.108And I agree, we should get a new Mercenaries game.
00:49:16.581 -->
00:49:17.070Seconded.
00:49:17.070 -->
00:49:23.771For sure, I never actually bought the game, but I rented it and I really liked it but I rented it and I really liked it.
00:49:23.791 -->
00:49:30.844Yeah, chasing the Unseen is a delightfully strange and meditative take on Shadow of Colossus, where the giant beasties can't hurt you and your mission is to climb.
00:49:30.844 -->
00:49:33.286I just thought it was kind of interesting looking.
00:49:33.286 -->
00:49:39.150And then Poker, roguelite Sensation Balotro sells more than 500,000 copies in just 10 days.
00:49:39.150 -->
00:49:41.467Balotro is a really fun game and I highly recommend it.
00:49:42.079 -->
00:49:43.202I actually haven't heard of that game.
00:49:44.365 -->
00:49:45.650It is a poker roguelite.
00:49:45.650 -->
00:49:46.532It's very fun.
00:49:47.900 -->
00:49:52.902Poker oh, I have heard of this game, but I haven't seen any gameplay of it.
00:49:52.902 -->
00:49:53.585I've just heard of it.
00:49:53.585 -->
00:49:55.806I've streamed it a few times.
00:49:56.719 -->
00:49:57.882You don't use real money, do you?
00:49:57.882 -->
00:50:00.690No, okay, no, no, no.
00:50:01.701 -->
00:50:02.565After two weeks.
00:50:03.146 -->
00:50:07.005Balotro's been played for a collective 1,114 years.
00:50:08.489 -->
00:50:10.724Wow, I don't know how that compares to other games.
00:50:10.724 -->
00:50:12.230Me neither.
00:50:14.420 -->
00:50:15.867It's just something they have in the article.
00:50:15.867 -->
00:50:25.608And then there's an article talking about how sick the Outlast Trials is, and I think that Alpha and I should play it on stream at some point or record it.
00:50:26.681 -->
00:50:32.730I am down next month when I get a paycheck that maybe won't go directly towards my RX-8.
00:50:32.730 -->
00:50:34.583Fair enough.
00:50:35.525 -->
00:50:36.724And I think that's it on news.
00:50:36.724 -->
00:50:41.847I don't even think the other guys looked at any news other than Mitch, because he knows the drill.
00:50:42.985 -->
00:50:48.065I googled some news but did not find anything that I could comment on, and I found nothing worthy of.
00:50:49.489 -->
00:50:49.791Alright.
00:50:49.791 -->
00:50:50.983So how do we want to do this?
00:50:50.983 -->
00:50:54.903Do we want to have Mitch cover both albums?
00:50:54.903 -->
00:51:09.646The way I had it in my head is like one of us would start whether it be me or Mitch and it would go one of us, you cover the person's album that started and then goes to the next person and then you finish off.
00:51:09.646 -->
00:51:10.710That's what I was thinking.
00:51:12.282 -->
00:51:13.485I didn't comprehend.
00:51:13.547 -->
00:51:23.148My brain Shut up for two seconds while I pull it up, that's basically this let's say I go first, then you'll talk about the Gojira record, then Ethan will go and then you'll talk about the Black Dahlia record.
00:51:24.231 -->
00:51:27.141Sounds good, or you can start, if you want.
00:51:27.222 -->
00:51:34.123either way, yeah bear with me on the black dahlia murder, a record that's I'm completely prepared.
00:51:34.643 -->
00:51:40.041Mitch has hated a couple of things I've given him and he really gave me black dahlia uh ethan did.
00:51:40.101 -->
00:51:40.382Okay.
00:51:40.382 -->
00:51:43.827Ethan, you go first with your record Okay.
00:51:44.369 -->
00:51:50.184So Mitch gave me a band that I have heard of before, mainly because I lived with Mitch.
00:51:50.184 -->
00:51:52.344Yes, I'm talking about Alpha.
00:51:52.344 -->
00:51:54.507Of course, this band is called Famous Last Words.
00:51:54.507 -->
00:52:02.965They are a metalcore band out of Petoskey, michigan Sounds about right, petoskey Michigan.
00:52:02.965 -->
00:52:08.960Because there's no Metallum page for this, I'm going off of Wikipedia like a scrub.
00:52:08.960 -->
00:52:16.248They're classified as a metalcore band, post-hardcore, symphonic metal and electroniccore.
00:52:16.248 -->
00:52:17.679In parentheses early.
00:52:17.679 -->
00:52:19.018They've been around since 2008.
00:52:19.018 -->
00:52:25.963He gave me their when was it 2014?
00:52:25.963 -->
00:52:27.989Album Council of the Dead.
00:52:27.989 -->
00:52:44.827Yes, this is a concept record where it's basically about a bunch of souls going into the afterlife and every single song is basically reliving the moment that they died or something along those lines.
00:52:44.827 -->
00:52:45.782Can I get that?
00:52:45.802 -->
00:52:46.103correct.
00:52:46.103 -->
00:52:48.505Yeah, go ahead, there's a little bit more to it.
00:52:48.505 -->
00:52:58.547So, essentially, these are a bunch of people that have died, gone to the afterlife, and the thing is they're essentially all sitting around each other, similar to like an AA meeting or something.
00:52:58.547 -->
00:53:03.500What they don't know is they just know what immediately happened when they died.
00:53:03.500 -->
00:53:07.041They don't remember the history of their life.
00:53:07.483 -->
00:53:10.692Each person, one by one, starts telling their story in the version of a song.
00:53:10.692 -->
00:53:18.184Each song is each person's story and as you get further into the album you realize the stories are intermingled.
00:53:18.184 -->
00:53:21.396For an example, there is a gentleman whose mother passed away.
00:53:21.396 -->
00:53:26.510She actually had her own song, but if she had dementia, she doesn't even remember her own son.
00:53:26.510 -->
00:53:35.525Her son had to endure her death and the entire time he's essentially taking care of this body that raised her.
00:53:35.525 -->
00:53:36.768The soul is gone.
00:53:36.768 -->
00:53:37.972She doesn't remember him.
00:53:37.972 -->
00:53:51.777He turns to alcohol, drives, hits a family a father and son and hits a family that's a father and daughter, kills the father, turns to alcohol, and this is all in the form of music, by the way.
00:53:51.777 -->
00:54:01.416So, essentially, as the album goes on, this story unfolds and you start realizing everybody's story's intertwined and at the end there's a big reveal.
00:54:02.510 -->
00:54:07.713So I don't know if you realize it, but everybody's story is essentially two songs that would pair together.
00:54:07.713 -->
00:54:08.460There's a cause and effect or a direct correlation of one another.
00:54:08.460 -->
00:54:09.307Everybody's story is essentially two songs that would pair together.
00:54:09.307 -->
00:54:13.159You know there's an a cause and effect or a direct correlation of one another.
00:54:14.101 -->
00:54:15.596Okay, that helps a lot.
00:54:15.596 -->
00:54:17.277I did not realize that I do.
00:54:17.277 -->
00:54:26.800It was a concept album and unfortunately that's a running theme with me, um, of not going as deep as I probably should.
00:54:26.800 -->
00:54:35.675To be fair, I wanted to re-listen to the record today, but I fell asleep because I was super exhausted and I just didn't get a chance.
00:54:35.675 -->
00:54:48.938So I'm going to be talking about this album in broad strokes, other than a couple of actually just one, because I remember the song being really, really awesome and then something happens that changed my mind.
00:54:49.369 -->
00:54:50.512If you don't mind, I don't mind, but in real quick.
00:54:50.512 -->
00:54:58.911Uh, I really like the idea of you guys touching on the album's broad strokes and then I'll kind of fill in the details and I'm gonna ask you guys to do the same thing for me.
00:54:58.911 -->
00:55:03.050I'll touch on the album and broad strokes and then I'll have you guys fill in the details.
00:55:03.050 -->
00:55:03.431How's that?
00:55:04.554 -->
00:55:05.375I mean yes.
00:55:05.375 -->
00:55:09.242Whenever I see the opportunity to expand on something, I'll do what I can.
00:55:09.789 -->
00:55:11.032Okay.
00:55:11.152 -->
00:55:14.382So this album is metalcore.
00:55:14.382 -->
00:55:19.659It's a genre I have not, so it's a genre that helped me get into the heavier side of metal.
00:55:19.659 -->
00:55:24.742Back in the day I listened to the Devil Wears Prada, august Burns Red.
00:55:24.742 -->
00:55:29.782I never really got into Asking Alexandria, but that kind of stylings.
00:55:29.782 -->
00:55:32.215And then this one is very, very.
00:55:32.215 -->
00:55:34.201It's hyper produced.
00:55:34.201 -->
00:55:35.476It sounds really good.
00:55:35.476 -->
00:55:38.920The mix there's nothing particularly wrong with the mix.
00:55:38.920 -->
00:55:42.320They do use a lot of symphonic elements as you go through.
00:55:42.320 -->
00:55:49.480I will touch on one specific song because I thought the intro to the song was just a banger One in the Chamber.
00:55:49.480 -->
00:55:50.481I love the intro to the song was just a banger One in the Chamber.
00:55:50.481 -->
00:55:52.344I love the intro to that song.
00:55:52.344 -->
00:55:54.938The synths that are playing over the guitar.
00:55:54.938 -->
00:55:56.235It sounds really really good.
00:55:56.235 -->
00:55:59.876But then there comes in the problem I have with this record.
00:55:59.876 -->
00:56:02.175Then the vocals come in.
00:56:02.414 -->
00:56:02.695Yeah.
00:56:04.059 -->
00:56:12.143So and anybody that's listened to the podcast knows I'm kind of a snob when it comes to vocals.
00:56:12.143 -->
00:56:13.376I'm a vocalist myself.
00:56:13.376 -->
00:56:16.378Can you answer something for me?
00:56:16.378 -->
00:56:22.398Yes, Is the vocalist the only vocalist Like, does he do cleans and dirties?
00:56:22.398 -->
00:56:24.873Yes, that is something that I didn't know.
00:56:25.393 -->
00:56:35.835When I first found this band a long time ago, I want to say I was 20 years old or 21, and I'm 29 now, so it's been a while.
00:56:35.835 -->
00:56:38.260They've been around back in the MySpace days.
00:56:38.260 -->
00:56:42.134The vocalist's name is JT Tolis.
00:56:42.134 -->
00:56:44.536Jt stands for something Tolis.
00:56:44.536 -->
00:56:47.963I don't remember his first names, but he is the only vocalist.
00:56:47.963 -->
00:56:56.543He does all the cleans, all the heavies and, yes, he was around at the forefront of the MySpace metalcore days.
00:56:56.543 -->
00:57:00.777That's where you're getting the vocals from and I think that's what you're struggling with a lot of the times.
00:57:01.420 -->
00:57:04.679Yeah, so his harsh vocals are completely fine.
00:57:04.679 -->
00:57:06.838I don't have anything wrong with his growls or his screams.
00:57:06.838 -->
00:57:18.737His cleans are the kind of cleans that I am just not big into the very, very high-pitched kind of whiny vocals that do stuff like this all the time.
00:57:18.737 -->
00:57:23.780That was hard, sorry.
00:57:23.780 -->
00:57:28.036Yeah, I'm tired.
00:57:28.036 -->
00:57:28.851My voice is a little shot.
00:57:28.851 -->
00:57:29.490I spent the night at my roommate's parents' house.
00:57:29.490 -->
00:57:29.550We both did no, I'm tired.
00:57:29.550 -->
00:57:29.590My voice is a little shot.
00:57:29.791 -->
00:57:31.697I spent the night at my roommate's parents' house.
00:57:31.697 -->
00:57:36.155We both did no, I was the only one that spent the night at his parents' house for some reason.
00:57:36.155 -->
00:57:39.853And no, we went to his parents' house last night and I didn't have my CPAP.
00:57:39.853 -->
00:57:44.653So I woke up in the middle of the night and the back of my throat was killing me.
00:57:44.653 -->
00:57:50.403So I'm like man, I must have been snoring like a monster and it's just now kind of going away.
00:57:50.403 -->
00:57:55.735Yes, so in broad strokes, I think the record sounds really cool.
00:57:55.735 -->
00:57:58.657The instrumentation's great.
00:57:58.657 -->
00:58:10.213I don't mind the harsh vocals, but every time I'm getting into a part his whiny vocals will pop back in and I'm like I wish I could like this more than I do.
00:58:12.960 -->
00:58:13.380That's fair.
00:58:13.380 -->
00:58:17.320I think this band I think the reason this album has such a soft spot for me.
00:58:17.320 -->
00:58:25.721I got into this band when I was kind of first getting into metal core and actually I got into their two face charades album, which I really enjoyed.
00:58:25.721 -->
00:58:29.454They actually have a short film about it it I think it's fun to watch.
00:58:30.474 -->
00:58:33.376Is that the one about a serial killer or something?
00:58:34.492 -->
00:58:35.077You're close.
00:58:35.077 -->
00:58:37.534I think you're talking about the same thing, but not quite.
00:58:37.534 -->
00:58:38.458It's a guy.
00:58:38.458 -->
00:58:42.380He's got multiple personality disorder or something.
00:58:42.380 -->
00:58:44.317He really loves this woman.
00:58:44.317 -->
00:58:45.655This woman does not love him.
00:58:45.655 -->
00:58:46.731She has a boyfriend.
00:58:46.731 -->
00:58:50.940So he kills the boyfriend and then he's like I did this because I love you, uh.
00:58:50.940 -->
00:58:53.626But the whole album revolves around the whole thing.
00:58:53.626 -->
00:59:03.572It is extremely toxic, it's extremely problematic, but I think the music was a lot of fun to listen to gotcha um the record.
00:59:03.592 -->
00:59:14.152Uh, this record starts off with like a uh, a bit more than anything, with the vocalist speaking like explaining why all the souls are here.
00:59:14.152 -->
00:59:18.679It's very, very cheesy yes yeah, it's, it's the.
00:59:18.679 -->
00:59:20.744The record wasn't really my thing.
00:59:20.744 -->
00:59:23.496I wish I could have listened to it a little bit more.
00:59:23.496 -->
00:59:25.963I really only spun it two or three times.
00:59:25.963 -->
00:59:29.179Um, and I like to try to which.
00:59:29.179 -->
00:59:38.818I guess, mitch, I guess in the records that you've given me, where I wasn't a huge fan, that's about what I listened to too, I think two or three times.
00:59:39.402 -->
00:59:46.833Yeah, that's fair, and this is something that it's either going to scratch that itch or it doesn't, and if it doesn't scratch the itch, you don't really get into the story.
00:59:46.833 -->
00:59:52.461This album was actually the album that was out when I found this band, If I remember correctly.
00:59:52.461 -->
00:59:56.416I found them right as this was releasing, so I jumped over to this album pretty quickly.
00:59:56.416 -->
01:00:03.882This album isn't my favorite, but I think the story is a lot of fun to listen to, which is really what draws me into Famous Last Words.
01:00:03.882 -->
01:00:12.244I still really like this band, but I do 100% see the concern with the older style vocals.
01:00:12.244 -->
01:00:15.976Jt, who has been with the band from the start.
01:00:15.976 -->
01:00:19.483I think his vocals have improved a lot.
01:00:19.483 -->
01:00:26.050However, that is a lot of his style, that whole MySpace metalcore sounding.
01:00:26.050 -->
01:00:30.300I think that's just naturally what his vocal cords are going to produce.
01:00:30.681 -->
01:00:36.679I mean there you can't force your voice to be different.
01:00:36.679 -->
01:00:42.416Like I said, production-wise I don't think there's anything wrong with this record.
01:00:42.416 -->
01:00:43.313I think it sounds good.
01:00:43.313 -->
01:00:44.458I think it's mixed really well.
01:00:44.458 -->
01:00:45.974It's just on a personal level.
01:00:45.974 -->
01:00:51.521I'm not big on the vocals and if I don't like the vocals for something it really hinders my ability to like it.
01:00:51.521 -->
01:01:05.894I'd probably give this like a 3, like a 3 out of 10, just on personal enjoyment, but on like a technical aspect, like a 6 or something like that.
01:01:05.894 -->
01:01:15.318If you like this kind of thing, if you can get past the metalcore high-pitched sort of whiny vocals to it.
01:01:15.318 -->
01:01:17.503It is an interesting story.
01:01:17.503 -->
01:01:20.237I give them props for doing a concept album.
01:01:20.237 -->
01:01:22.817I was told that, hey.
01:01:22.817 -->
01:01:28.570I was told recently that, hey, we want you to join our band, but we're doing a concept album.
01:01:28.570 -->
01:01:30.117I'm like god, dang it.
01:01:30.117 -->
01:01:34.556I'm not good with concept albums Because you've got to write a story.
01:01:36.012 -->
01:01:42.179I was going back through our chats and I forgot that you guys did not like concept albums and I was kind of shocked that I had given you this band.
01:01:42.771 -->
01:01:44.197No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:01:44.197 -->
01:01:46.532Hold on, hold on.
01:01:46.532 -->
01:01:50.099Oh, we like concept albums okay we?
01:01:50.199 -->
01:01:51.402oh, maybe that's why I gave you this.
01:01:51.402 -->
01:01:57.987Maybe I misread I to be fair, I did read this, as I stopped very temporarily with a truck and trailer earlier today.
01:01:57.987 -->
01:02:02.420Maybe that's why I gave you this album, but I'm still shocked that I gave you this for some reason.
01:02:02.420 -->
01:02:10.070Ethan, I thought that I was gonna give you melanie martinez and I think I talked about doing that, but yes, you did, or at least you, I think.
01:02:10.090 -->
01:02:18.760You briefly brought it up after yeah, yeah, cause we were in a call with Jake, I think, and you were, uh, you were saying that I thought about giving you this instead.
01:02:19.431 -->
01:02:24.653Oh, I think I didn't give it to you Cause I hadn't listened to enough of the album myself to be like the quote unquote.
01:02:24.653 -->
01:02:25.657Expert on the call.
01:02:26.539 -->
01:02:30.650Now looking, looking back, and obviously you haven't talked about Dahlia yet.
01:02:30.650 -->
01:02:36.916Looking back, I wondered why I didn't give you, like a Devil Wears, Prada or even a Knocked Loose album.
01:02:36.916 -->
01:02:39.032I guess because I wasn't into Knocked Loose at the time.
01:02:39.032 -->
01:02:46.237We set this up back in August, so it's taken us a long time to finally get together and do this.
01:02:46.237 -->
01:02:53.574It was either August or October, but yeah, it's been that long it's been a while, I do listen to quite a bit of Devil.
01:02:53.594 -->
01:02:54.396Wears Prada actually.
01:02:54.396 -->
01:02:55.902Oh, you do Nice yeah.
01:02:56.449 -->
01:02:57.795I listened to their most recent record.
01:02:57.795 -->
01:02:58.818It actually wasn't half bad.
01:02:58.818 -->
01:03:02.219Color Decay or whatever it's called, oh gotcha.
01:03:02.219 -->
01:03:13.916So yeah, famous Last Words if you're of into that myspace metalcore era.
01:03:13.936 -->
01:03:16.922Maybe give it a shot wasn't really my thing, but I can appreciate it for what it is.
01:03:16.922 -->
01:03:18.465Yeah, it's very much myspace metalcore but yeah I it.
01:03:18.465 -->
01:03:26.402It struck the itch that I needed it to uh itch at the time and it really helped me kind of get into heavier music uh.
01:03:26.402 -->
01:03:29.835But I don't know, for some reason I always go back to that concept alpha.
01:03:30.255 -->
01:03:31.177What did you listen to?
01:03:32.079 -->
01:03:34.463oh man, I have all of the good music.
01:03:34.463 -->
01:03:42.460Uh, I was given black dolly, murders, night bringers, and I'm not even going to pretend to know the genre, so will.
01:03:42.460 -->
01:03:45.416Could you please give us a breakdown on what this genre is?
01:03:46.137 -->
01:03:56.489yeah, so uh, black dolly murder is one of the the biggest melodic death metal bands in existence and it's funny you mentioned that because I seem to like more melodic music.
01:03:57.612 -->
01:04:02.690I didn't see the melodic side of this, so I don't know if I don't understand what melodic is it's?
01:04:02.751 -->
01:04:06.177in the guitars it's in the guitars.
01:04:06.177 -->
01:04:12.135That would explain a lot, because I'm just going to read some of my notes real quick, more approachable, groovy, fun.
01:04:12.135 -->
01:04:17.032Uh, vocals are kind of dull, so much double bass, little overwhelming.
01:04:17.032 -->
01:04:19.478Uh, I also didn't have any notes on the vocals.
01:04:19.478 -->
01:04:20.922Has a really fun lead up.
01:04:20.922 -->
01:04:22.534No notes on the vocals.
01:04:23.034 -->
01:04:26.222Not a huge fan of the monotone, I'm speaking about the vocals there.
01:04:26.222 -->
01:04:28.164Uh, I see what he's going for, though.
01:04:28.164 -->
01:04:29.583Oh, never mind, that's Gojira.
01:04:29.583 -->
01:04:40.068But my overall note was man, I felt like every song was the same as far as vocals go, I was really looking for a little bit of fluctuation.
01:04:40.068 -->
01:04:45.157I was looking for a little bit of contrast and it really threw me off in that note.
01:04:45.157 -->
01:04:54.878As far as the guitar, I did notice some of that and as far as musically, I noticed really some of that kind of melodic nature coming out.
01:04:55.621 -->
01:04:58.132I have a couple notes as far as the double bass goes.
01:04:58.132 -->
01:05:01.081On jars, just to be clear, I might have some of these.
01:05:01.081 -->
01:05:03.559Okay, jars, okay, yeah, yeah, jars is a good one.
01:05:03.559 -->
01:05:10.190I was about to say I actually might have some of these musical instruments wrong because I'm not musically inclined.
01:05:10.190 -->
01:05:11.956Uh, you're good, my understand.
01:05:11.956 -->
01:05:21.068Jars has a lot of double bass towards the middle of it and it was just, you know, run and through and I could not keep up night bringers.
01:05:21.068 -->
01:05:37.820I had to note that it was my original note was it's more approachable and it's got a fun solo and I got to listen to it before we fired up the podcast and I remember thinking this is a lot more groovy than I remember I thought, yes, night was a lot of fun to listen to and I think that would be my highlight on this album.
01:05:38.443 -->
01:05:39.264But man, it's a good song.
01:05:40.208 -->
01:05:49.115I really struggled with black dahlia murder and I really wanted to like them because I'm I put a lot of weight into the story behind like the names, the story behind the albums.
01:05:49.115 -->
01:05:53.965So I really wanted to like Black Dahlia but I struggled with some of their stuff.
01:05:54.650 -->
01:05:55.791So Black Dahlia?
01:05:55.791 -->
01:06:01.264I gave you Black Dahlia because most of the time people consider them a very good entry-level death metal band.
01:06:01.505 -->
01:06:02.427That's entry-level.
01:06:03.228 -->
01:06:11.016Yes, okay, now I did not give you the record everybody freaks out about Okay, Everybody freaks out about their album called Nocturnal.
01:06:11.016 -->
01:06:13.623It's a good record I've heard of that it's a very good record.
01:06:14.692 -->
01:06:18.259It's a great record and it is a bit more approachable, I would think.
01:06:18.259 -->
01:06:20.719But the thing is everybody's listened to Nocturnal.
01:06:20.719 -->
01:06:26.353I gave you the record that got me into Black Dahlia murder Because I wasn't super into them for a while.
01:06:26.353 -->
01:06:27.496I, because I wasn't super into them for a while.
01:06:27.496 -->
01:06:28.498I thought they were okay.
01:06:28.498 -->
01:06:38.927Of course, let me send you the biggest song Hold on, what a horrible night to have a curse.
01:06:38.927 -->
01:06:41.298And it's really interesting that you say that.
01:06:41.298 -->
01:06:44.293I guess I see where you're coming from when you say that.
01:06:44.333 -->
01:06:46.739Trevor is kind of one note vocally.
01:06:46.739 -->
01:06:48.083He has two settings.
01:06:48.083 -->
01:06:49.576He has his high and he has his low.
01:06:49.576 -->
01:06:56.431The biggest thing when it comes to Travis is Travis, trevor.
01:06:56.431 -->
01:07:00.121I mix Trevor and Travis from Cattle Decap all the time.
01:07:00.121 -->
01:07:01.715Just from their names.
01:07:03.233 -->
01:07:06.146His thing is the way that he talks and his inflections.
01:07:06.146 -->
01:07:06.949Okay.
01:07:06.949 -->
01:07:11.856So the way that he says words is how I'm into it.
01:07:11.856 -->
01:07:15.376So like if I gave you that's their biggest song.
01:07:15.376 -->
01:07:18.177People really love the groove to it.
01:07:18.177 -->
01:07:32.297The One of my favorite songs is In Hell, is when she Waits For Me, and just the way he talks and goes through the lyrics is really, really captivating to me.
01:07:32.297 -->
01:07:33.655I think it's very catchy.
01:07:33.655 -->
01:07:37.097His vocal flow is what people really really dig.
01:07:37.097 -->
01:07:41.599And in Nocturnal he does have a little bit more back and forth.
01:07:41.599 -->
01:07:44.018He jumps between his lows and highs a little bit more.
01:07:44.018 -->
01:07:49.280He kind of settles into more of a groove later into their catalog.
01:07:49.280 -->
01:07:52.400Kind of settles into more of a groove later into their catalog, kind of like where Nightbringers is.
01:07:52.400 -->
01:07:55.976I think Widowmaker is one of the best intro songs ever.
01:07:55.976 -->
01:08:01.818I think it has a really cool build-up and it's a really exciting track for the first record of the album.
01:08:01.818 -->
01:08:04.047Nightbringers is excellent.
01:08:04.047 -->
01:08:04.791I'm glad you like that.
01:08:04.791 -->
01:08:07.856Do you have any notes on Crap?
01:08:07.856 -->
01:08:08.820What is the last song?
01:08:08.820 -->
01:08:11.932The Lonely Deceased?
01:08:11.952 -->
01:08:12.193Do like that.
01:08:12.193 -->
01:08:12.715Do you have any notes on?
01:08:12.715 -->
01:08:13.398Um, crap, what is the last song?
01:08:13.398 -->
01:08:13.922Uh, the lonely deceased?
01:08:13.922 -->
01:08:14.826I do not have any specific notes on that.
01:08:14.826 -->
01:08:16.572However, I could give it a quick skim through.
01:08:17.073 -->
01:08:22.045I want to comment on your notes on um, shit, what'd you call it?
01:08:22.045 -->
01:08:27.880Not funky, not groovy, um, melodic, yes, uh.
01:08:27.880 -->
01:08:40.199I want to comment on your notes on it being melodic metal, because when I think of melodic metal I start thinking more of intonation changes for the vocalist, but I feel like I didn't get a whole lot of changes for the vocalist.
01:08:40.199 -->
01:08:46.037And Mitch Wade specifically mentioned the guitar changes, which I did like I really did.
01:08:46.037 -->
01:08:47.418I had some notes specifically on the where to go.
01:08:47.381 -->
01:08:49.310The solo to Nightbringer specifically really caught my attention, which I did like I really did.
01:08:49.310 -->
01:08:50.226I had some notes specifically on the where did it go?
01:08:50.226 -->
01:08:54.056The solo to Nightbringers specifically really caught my attention.
01:08:54.056 -->
01:09:01.195But I tend to put a lot of weight on the changes and the contrast and vocals specifically.
01:09:01.195 -->
01:09:09.837And I think that's what leads me to a lot of the bands like Brand of Sacrifice, make them Suffer, chelsea Grin, not so much Living Machines.
01:09:09.837 -->
01:09:25.057I'm pulling up some of the music I listen to just for comparison, right, but they typically do more changes to the vocals, and I think that's something that I really need for myself, not to say that who was the lead singer in this.
01:09:25.078 -->
01:09:25.940You said it was Trevor.
01:09:25.940 -->
01:09:28.958Trevor Sternad Rest in peace.
01:09:29.470 -->
01:09:31.398I have heard this man's name many times.
01:09:32.862 -->
01:09:36.661He was a fixture in the metal community.
01:09:36.661 -->
01:09:50.518He absolutely loved taking on new bands and helping them out and supporting music and, all things considered, trevor was considered to be a great human being.
01:09:51.289 -->
01:09:51.757I was going to say.
01:09:51.757 -->
01:09:59.474I've definitely seen his name thrown around a lot in the metal community and I definitely see where the respect comes from, because I definitely think he still has really good vocals.
01:09:59.474 -->
01:10:14.097Unfortunately, this album specifically didn't quite strike that nerve that I needed it to strike, although I definitely want to come back to Nightbringers, because, as I was re-reviewing Nightbringers, I don't know it was hitting.
01:10:14.097 -->
01:10:19.537So I think this is something that I would call on my heavier playlist.
01:10:19.537 -->
01:10:23.061This may not be heavier for you guys, but this is on the upper end for me.
01:10:23.149 -->
01:10:24.756Oh, I mean, Black Tolly is still bangs.
01:10:24.756 -->
01:10:31.573It's still a pretty like I wouldn't say they're the heaviest thing I listen to, but they can still be heavy.
01:10:31.592 -->
01:10:35.005Yeah, they're heavy for me as well and just to comment.
01:10:35.005 -->
01:10:41.600So the the genre specifically, is melodic death metal, and so what separates this from death metal?
01:10:41.600 -->
01:10:55.145Because all death metal is is like there is melody in it, but it's a lot less focused and it's more about the rhythm and the chugginess and the deep gutturals and everything.
01:10:55.706 -->
01:10:56.726Should I pull it?
01:10:56.766 -->
01:11:00.396Hold on, I'll get a corpse song yeah, and you can pull up a corpse song Would you sing.
01:11:00.438 -->
01:11:06.556that Makes a lot of sense and I definitely see that as a number one priority in this entire album.
01:11:06.797 -->
01:11:08.740So with melodic death metal.
01:11:08.740 -->
01:11:14.289What separates it from death metal is the instrumentation itself carries the melody.
01:11:14.289 -->
01:11:23.939The vocalist is almost part of a a um rhythmic section, though there are melodic death metal bands that do clean vocals, like in flames.
01:11:23.939 -->
01:11:29.578Dark tranquility, uh uh omnium gather them there.
01:11:29.578 -->
01:11:31.868So it's not like unheard of, but the death metal part is the growling itself.
01:11:31.868 -->
01:11:32.430Tranquility Omnium Gatherum.
01:11:32.430 -->
01:11:36.073So it's not unheard of, but the death metal part is the growling itself.
01:11:36.073 -->
01:11:39.238So what Ethan's posting you, which is Cannibal Corpse, is pure death metal.
01:11:39.238 -->
01:11:48.993It is the father of death metal itself, and you'll hear a huge difference from this to Black Dahlia.
01:11:49.012 -->
01:11:52.358So the first song I posted is of newer Cannibal Corpse.
01:11:52.358 -->
01:12:04.780The second song I posted is back when they were more like brutal death metal, where it's very, very syncopated and all the instruments are kind of together and has even less melodic information to it.
01:12:04.780 -->
01:12:08.189And I'll give you a second to check those out, just for comparison.
01:12:08.189 -->
01:12:06.426And then let me to it.
01:12:06.426 -->
01:12:11.195And I'll give you a second to check those out just for comparison, and then let me crap.
01:12:11.195 -->
01:12:17.154What would you say is like a really good melodic Dahlia song a melodic Dahlia song.
01:12:17.796 -->
01:12:19.695I think the one that you posted is fine.
01:12:19.695 -->
01:12:29.253Okay, if I was going to do, I would like give him like another melodic death metal band, like in flames or something, just to show him what the genre can sound like.
01:12:30.532 -->
01:12:36.918I was assuming night bringers would specifically fit that pretty well, cause that intro is, it's a good, it's a good one.
01:12:37.661 -->
01:12:44.921Um, let me do only for the week by in flames, and this one's a lot different cause it has a lot of like synths and stuff to it.
01:12:45.890 -->
01:12:53.676And in flames is one of the father figures of melodic death metal, so it should give you an idea of what the genre can sound like.
01:12:53.676 -->
01:12:55.655Okay, it's weird.
01:12:56.671 -->
01:12:57.434I'll post one more.
01:12:57.434 -->
01:12:58.537I'll post one more.
01:12:58.537 -->
01:13:04.177And if you listen to this song, this is basically where Black Dahlia got their sound.
01:13:04.177 -->
01:13:13.943When you listen to the first riff from Blinded by Fear by At the Gates, you'll be like, oh, that's where they got a lot of their sound from.
01:13:14.551 -->
01:13:16.398Also At the Gates being another father.
01:13:17.229 -->
01:13:30.721I almost think it would have been beneficial to have this talk before I listened to the album because, as you're mentioning what melodic death metal really means and what it's defined by, I hear that so clearly when I listen to Only for the Week.
01:13:30.721 -->
01:13:37.481I see exactly what you're talking about that melodic guitar supported by the rest of the instrumentation.
01:13:37.481 -->
01:13:50.797It's very clear what they're going for and this, the Let me back up the vocals in this song, I think, are a little bit more approachable than Black Dahlia Murder.
01:13:50.797 -->
01:13:52.630However, I see the correlation.
01:13:52.630 -->
01:13:54.597I see why they're in the same genre.
01:13:54.597 -->
01:13:57.479I need to listen to FD Gates still.
01:13:58.305 -->
01:14:01.399Yeah, skip ahead till the music starts, because it's kind of a long intro.
01:14:01.399 -->
01:14:04.317And did you check out Corpse as well?
01:14:04.317 -->
01:14:05.131For the contrast?
01:14:06.231 -->
01:14:06.613Which band?
01:14:07.734 -->
01:14:08.957Corpse Cannibal Corpse.
01:14:08.976 -->
01:14:09.317Cannibal Corpse.
01:14:09.317 -->
01:14:12.341Cannibal Corpse, yes, I heard a couple of those.
01:14:12.341 -->
01:14:14.625Let me gather my thoughts on that to get through quick.
01:14:15.371 -->
01:14:35.230Yeah, take your time and, by all means, if you ever decide to keep listening or you go back to Nightbringers or whatever after this conversation, you could always message us if your opinions changed and we can always say that on the podcast or we can have you back on in the future or something you never know.
01:14:35.230 -->
01:14:37.458I've kind of liked, I thought I think this has been fun.
01:14:37.829 -->
01:14:40.680I've had a lot of fun as well, which we'll talk about here in a few minutes.
01:14:40.680 -->
01:14:55.458I've saved Nightbringers specifically and I've got like a heavier playlist that let's do like I've still just gotta let some steam off at work, and nightbringers is in there, as well as one of the gojira songs, which we'll talk about in a minute.
01:14:55.458 -->
01:15:16.453But I I see so when you talk about melodic death metal being very melodic in the sense of the guitars and the instrumentation in flames, I think is very clear on where they're trying to focus on that melodic taste, and then you know you get into the mixture of the vocals and the instrumentation and it's like okay.
01:15:16.453 -->
01:15:18.905When you sum everything together, it's very clearly metal.
01:15:18.905 -->
01:15:28.394When you start talking about In Flames only for the week, once you get to At the Gates, you start getting into that speed and I start seeing it become less digestible.
01:15:28.394 -->
01:15:39.886However, I see where the melodic tab yeah, where the melody is yeah.
01:15:39.988 -->
01:15:49.011I see where that melodic title comes from and I get it, but I almost feel like there's a barrier to entry that we have to work through as somebody that maybe not.
01:15:49.011 -->
01:15:50.671I see's a barrier to entry that we have to work through as somebody that maybe not.
01:15:50.671 -->
01:16:04.466I see where that barrier to entry is for somebody that may not be into this kind of music, specifically where they have to get through the speed, they have to get through the aggressiveness to try to get to what the song is really trying to be, and in Flames it's a little bit easier to do that.
01:16:06.510 -->
01:16:10.057Let me do one more in Flames song, one that's a little bit faster.
01:16:10.057 -->
01:16:12.302Should I do Pinball Map or Take this Life?
01:16:13.230 -->
01:16:16.476Take this Life If you're going to do Faster.
01:16:16.476 -->
01:16:19.399I was actually going to suggest one of their new ones.
01:16:20.490 -->
01:16:26.813I think Going Faster is going to make it more difficult, because once you start adding speed, it just starts becoming really technical.
01:16:26.853 -->
01:16:36.126I feel like For me, when it comes to In Flames' faster music, it really becomes like I love the groove.
01:16:36.126 -->
01:16:39.399So the groove of this riff is what sinks me into it.
01:16:39.399 -->
01:16:45.677It still has melodic elements, especially once you get to the chorus, but this one is definitely more in your face.
01:16:45.677 -->
01:16:50.439It has a little bit less synth to it, but it's one of their biggest songs too.
01:16:51.530 -->
01:16:52.515I'm going to listen to this real quick.
01:16:52.515 -->
01:16:55.073It'll be really interesting to compare this to At the Gates.
01:16:55.073 -->
01:16:59.899Once you start adding the speed Okay, yeah, take your time, Okay, interesting.
01:16:59.899 -->
01:17:12.417So the verses really kind of remind me of At the Gates, where it's just like it's really fast and maybe not so approachable, but once you get to the chorus it kind of cleans up, slows down and it's like, hey, take this in for a second.
01:17:12.417 -->
01:17:20.257And it's much more digestible and I start seeing that melodic side come out and this is something that I would listen to.
01:17:20.257 -->
01:17:35.881And then all of a sudden it speeds up and it takes off and I kind of fall out of pace with it and I think that's something that I struggle with, specifically with the At the Gate song, Blinded by Fear, it almost seems like the speed is losing me, not so much the music, which would make sense.
01:17:35.881 -->
01:17:36.881Go ahead.
01:17:36.962 -->
01:17:37.662I'm curious.
01:17:38.262 -->
01:17:39.363Give him septic flesh.
01:17:39.363 -->
01:17:42.006I've given him septic flesh before.
01:17:42.386 -->
01:17:43.506I don't remember septic flesh.
01:17:46.284 -->
01:17:46.729Give it to me again.
01:17:46.729 -->
01:17:48.315Portrait of a Headless man Portrait of a.
01:17:48.336 -->
01:17:50.364Headless man is a good one.
01:17:50.364 -->
01:17:55.569That might have been on the call we had with Jake a long time ago, but I don't remember it and I believe it might have been.
01:17:57.256 -->
01:17:59.775The vocals are important, but they're very.
01:17:59.775 -->
01:18:06.618One note the whole important thing about Septic Flesh is the instrumentation well, that's something I struggle with.
01:18:06.679 -->
01:18:11.512That one note, vocal is, I think, exactly what drove me away from black dahlia.
01:18:11.512 -->
01:18:16.369Yeah, at least the night bringers album, specifically, because I really struggled.
01:18:16.369 -->
01:18:20.440Struggle with that one note, and that's something we'll talk about when we get to the gojira album.
01:18:20.649 -->
01:18:26.838Yeah, so, like I said, everything's carried in the instrumentation okay, I'll post.
01:18:27.038 -->
01:18:29.021I'll post two more dahlia songs.
01:18:29.021 -->
01:18:30.904Oh, what's the song called?
01:18:30.904 -->
01:18:34.996Uh, oh it's off of.
01:18:35.115 -->
01:18:44.654It's off of nocturnal uh yeah, I already see this being something that I struggle with, that that whole one low note.
01:18:44.654 -->
01:18:46.176It's just like oh, here we are.
01:18:46.176 -->
01:18:57.240Portrait of a headless man uh, this is something like I, I need to pop out with some like high-end vocals or to pop out with some cleans.
01:18:57.240 -->
01:18:59.752I need a little bit of relief, which is funny.
01:18:59.752 -->
01:19:04.221I mean, I do listen to some heavier songs, not quite septic flesh.
01:19:04.221 -->
01:19:10.823Portrait of a head of a headless man uh, heavy, but I, I can't take it for five minutes.
01:19:10.823 -->
01:19:12.676That's where I start falling apart.
01:19:12.676 -->
01:19:18.618Is Death Mask divine?
01:19:18.618 -->
01:19:19.681Wow, I can't speak today.
01:19:19.681 -->
01:19:21.395Are these two songs really heavy?
01:19:21.992 -->
01:19:24.234No, just five minutes If that's like your barrier.
01:19:24.234 -->
01:19:29.698That's kind of rough when it comes to getting into death metal.
01:19:29.890 -->
01:19:32.319Yeah, I figured that out with the Gojira album.
01:19:33.890 -->
01:19:56.118So I chose these songs for Dahlia to show more of that, not necessarily the what's it called the diversity of Trevor's vocals, but more of his delivery, and that's where a lot of people, myself included, really like Trevor, just the way that he enunciates and the way he says words.
01:19:56.118 -->
01:19:59.095And for In Hell is when she Waits For Me.
01:19:59.095 -->
01:20:00.791You can skip to like a minute in.
01:20:01.373 -->
01:20:01.574Yep.
01:20:02.650 -->
01:20:06.015And I'll also send this because it's the In Hell is.
01:20:06.015 -->
01:20:08.890Where is the first song in it?
01:20:08.890 -->
01:20:12.878But the live record, if you like, the live stuff.
01:20:12.878 -->
01:20:19.114This video is absolutely insane and I also love Trevor's face in the thumbnail.
01:20:19.154 -->
01:20:20.899His face in the thumbnail is quite unique.
01:20:23.109 -->
01:20:25.480Yeah, that's one of my favorite live videos, if you ever are just bored and want to listen to it.
01:20:25.480 -->
01:20:26.774I'm really bummed.
01:20:26.774 -->
01:20:31.335I never got a chance to listen or to see Dahlia live before Trevor passed.
01:20:32.752 -->
01:20:37.300It's funny you mention this, because one of my favorite live videos is Chelsea Grin on Warped Tour.
01:20:37.300 -->
01:20:42.578That actually wasn't even supposed to be a dig.
01:20:44.032 -->
01:20:44.814Oh, no, no, no, no no.
01:20:44.814 -->
01:20:48.108I wasn't trying to be snarky or anything.
01:20:48.631 -->
01:20:50.759I thought I heard you go, mmm.
01:20:52.250 -->
01:20:53.536No, I went uh.
01:20:53.536 -->
01:20:55.015It was more of an uh.
01:20:55.015 -->
01:20:57.456Alright, Not a uh.
01:20:57.710 -->
01:21:05.192While I'm skimming through this, specifically, they did a live version of Death Rose, I think it was, I don't know.
01:21:05.192 -->
01:21:06.033I always go back to that one.
01:21:06.033 -->
01:21:08.902Which one are you listening to?
01:21:08.902 -->
01:21:15.051Now I'm listening to, I'm skimming through their live set on Black Dahlia Murders, us Van Turf.
01:21:15.072 -->
01:21:17.412Specifically for his live set.
01:21:17.412 -->
01:21:18.237Skip to like.
01:21:18.237 -->
01:21:23.475I want you to hear the first scream of In Hell, so let me get you a timestamp 1-0-3.
01:21:23.475 -->
01:21:27.659For me the scream is nuts, god dang son.
01:21:32.493 -->
01:21:33.376And just that riff that.
01:21:33.376 -->
01:21:34.918That's where the they're good.
01:21:35.902 -->
01:21:36.563It's so cool.
01:21:36.563 -->
01:21:37.975I love that song.
01:21:37.975 -->
01:21:38.858It's one of my favorites.
01:21:39.449 -->
01:21:41.819That would be so much fun out in the audience listening to that.
01:21:42.590 -->
01:21:44.317And you know so a lot of.
01:21:44.317 -->
01:21:49.662One of the criticisms of Dahlia is that a lot of their music does sound the same.
01:21:49.662 -->
01:21:56.837If you listen to stuff off of Nocturnal versus Ever Black versus Nightbringers, it definitely sounds similar.
01:21:56.837 -->
01:22:01.962But in my opinion it's one of those bands where it's like it's all quality.
01:22:02.608 -->
01:22:02.729Yeah.
01:22:03.070 -->
01:22:15.672If you liked pieces of Nightbringers, you could check out an Ever Black or some bits of Nocturnal, or even going back to their first record Unhallowed, and probably find some.
01:22:15.672 -->
01:22:24.497Yeah, exactly, it's one of those bands where I feel like you might get into them over time, especially if you like songs here and there.
01:22:24.497 -->
01:22:27.894But what would you Given all of this?
01:22:27.894 -->
01:22:46.238I don't know if this conversation has impacted your opinion or not, or if you need to go and listen to the record again, and if you do end up doing so and your opinion changes, feel free to let us know and we can mention it in the future or just have you on again at some point, because now that we've talked a little bit more, I feel like there are other bands I would like to give you.
01:22:46.238 -->
01:22:49.332Does this change your opinion at all?
01:22:49.332 -->
01:22:52.899What would you rate Nightbringers out of a score of 10?
01:22:54.680 -->
01:23:11.570So, before I rate them, I need to preface it with the fact that I have a couple of different playlists that I have for different moods, and this would definitely go into my heavier music playlist, where the boss said something that really rubbed you the wrong way.
01:23:11.570 -->
01:23:12.592Work sucks today.
01:23:12.592 -->
01:23:15.479I just need something to fucking screw you dad.
01:23:15.479 -->
01:23:16.662Yeah, screw you dad.
01:23:16.662 -->
01:23:18.774It's not a phase I.
01:23:18.774 -->
01:23:21.242This is my life anyway.
01:23:21.242 -->
01:23:24.390Uh, this would definitely go into my heavier playlist.
01:23:24.390 -->
01:23:34.516That being said, I'm gonna say a five out of ten because, okay, that playlist, specifically, is going to be songs that I really like and that I really want.
01:23:34.516 -->
01:23:43.810However, I think I would put this in there for the sense of this fits that really heavy tone and I think that it works, but I need to kind of listen to this when I'm in the mood for it.
01:23:43.810 -->
01:23:45.573That, yeah, okay.
01:23:45.832 -->
01:23:46.613Also, I want to prep.
01:23:46.613 -->
01:23:51.599I want to say that I have been on a more indie streak.
01:23:51.599 -->
01:23:54.161I've been listening to a band called fuck it.
01:23:54.161 -->
01:23:58.706They call it the Beach Bunnies, so this hasn't really fit my tone recently.
01:23:58.706 -->
01:24:02.393Okay, oh, it's called the Beaches.
01:24:02.393 -->
01:24:12.149Yeah, it hasn't really fit my tone recently, but this needs to be listened to when I'm in that mood but this needs to be listened to when I'm in that mood.
01:24:12.168 -->
01:24:14.912Yeah, and mood can definitely change how you perceive an album.
01:24:14.912 -->
01:24:18.481For us, a five out of 10 literally means you don't really feel one way or the other about it.
01:24:19.350 -->
01:24:34.278I would say that's accurate, Especially when I'm in the, when I'm in the mood for that band, I'm like I don't know if this is something that I really got in my way to click for, but if it came up when I'm in that zone ready to listen to it, I would it would be playing like throughout, I wouldn't skip it, yeah.
01:24:35.259 -->
01:24:39.921And I think this is important for, like, just music listeners in general.
01:24:39.921 -->
01:24:47.106Everyone listens to music differently because for me, the music I listened to one is not usually a mood thing.
01:24:47.106 -->
01:24:52.474I mean, there are certain bands where I'm like I do have to be in the mood, like I.
01:24:52.474 -->
01:25:01.680I'm always in the mood to listen to Bellwitch, but I have to have the time for it and I really need to be feeling it for me to listen to Bellwitch.
01:25:01.680 -->
01:25:02.622I love Bellwitch.
01:25:02.770 -->
01:25:07.154I love mirror Reaper as a song, even though it's an hour and 33 minutes long.
01:25:07.154 -->
01:25:11.382I talk about mirror Reaper as a musical masterpiece all the time.
01:25:11.382 -->
01:25:37.020But for me, I listen to music more for the instrumentation and how the instrumentation's written than I do for vocals and lyrics, and so that's why the stuff I listen to tends to be more melodic death metal and symphonic death metal rather than like pure death metal or grindcore or black metal, because I focus on those things.
01:25:37.020 -->
01:25:38.403Do I still listen to vocals?
01:25:38.403 -->
01:25:49.582Yeah, I like vocals, but it's not as important to me as the instrumentation versus Ethan, who still does listen to instrumentation and you know, ethan, correct me if you're wrong.
01:25:49.582 -->
01:25:59.038Yeah, if you're wrong, correct me if I'm wrong, but you're more focused on the vocals and how they're delivered and how it sounds.
01:26:00.289 -->
01:26:11.559I'd say it's an even 50-50 for me, because if, or maybe 60-40, because if a vocalist just doesn't rub me the right way, it gets difficult to enjoy something.
01:26:11.559 -->
01:26:13.774But I love a good instrumentation.
01:26:13.774 -->
01:26:20.390As we've been talking about riffage from At the Gates or Take this Life or this, that and that.
01:26:20.470 -->
01:26:24.761See a vocalist has to be really annoying for me to hate the band.
01:26:25.210 -->
01:26:26.453The music is very much about the vibe.
01:26:26.453 -->
01:26:36.725Vibe not so much specifically about the vocals, although I can get into vocals or the instrumentation specifically if it fits well.
01:26:36.725 -->
01:26:43.827But that vibe is really what I'm going for and I think that's why I jumped so much back between really heavier stuff.
01:26:43.827 -->
01:26:51.152Like lorna shore if I'm in the mood specifically for that to the beach is talking about a fucking lesbian love story.
01:26:51.152 -->
01:26:51.993Yeah, I'm just.
01:26:51.993 -->
01:27:00.440Sometimes I'm in the mood for that girly pop, let's, you know, let's jam out, and sometimes I just need the whole world's gonna burn and I'm gonna laugh as it does.
01:27:00.481 -->
01:27:03.956So and see that's, there's a really good cattle decap.
01:27:03.975 -->
01:27:15.297Song about that see, that's that's what I'm saying love story or the world burning both, the world burning good of both, um, but that's what I mean.
01:27:15.297 -->
01:27:22.438Like, for me, I don't have to have a vibe to listen to certain bands and me to like, really enjoy it.
01:27:22.438 -->
01:27:26.091Does that mean if I'm in a bad mood, that it won't affect?
01:27:26.091 -->
01:27:28.577But it will.
01:27:28.577 -->
01:27:34.019But it would affect me listening to like Opeth, which everyone knows is one of my favorite bands of all time.
01:27:34.019 -->
01:27:38.520But yeah, I don't flow on the vibes of music.
01:27:38.520 -->
01:27:49.920I love the vibes, but I don't have to be in a certain mood to listen to Funeral Doom or, you know, melodic death metal or indie rock, like that's.
01:27:49.920 -->
01:27:50.681That's how I am.
01:27:50.681 -->
01:27:53.228If I, if I just want to listen to it, I will.
01:27:53.228 -->
01:27:57.782I will happily listen to city and color as much as I would septic flesh.
01:27:57.782 -->
01:27:59.778I don't have to be in the mood for one or the other.
01:28:01.592 -->
01:28:05.637It's very interesting you mentioned that, because that's that's the entire opposite of me.
01:28:05.637 -->
01:28:11.212I mean, I'm looking here at girly pop, heavy metal like modern emo.
01:28:11.212 -->
01:28:12.971It's all on my playlist.
01:28:13.372 -->
01:28:15.212I've actually got a couple of rap songs as well.
01:28:15.393 -->
01:28:16.398I didn't know that Nice.
01:28:16.909 -->
01:28:18.195Have you ever listened to Aesop rock?
01:28:18.731 -->
01:28:19.636Oh, no, here we go again.
01:28:19.636 -->
01:28:23.273I was more specifically pointing to.
01:28:23.273 -->
01:28:25.752I Am J Kill, okay.
01:28:26.234 -->
01:28:27.775I have a vibe check for you, mitch.
01:28:27.775 -->
01:28:29.171Which?
01:28:29.171 -->
01:28:31.283Which Alpha?
01:28:31.283 -->
01:28:33.792Uh, can you tell me what vibes you get off of this song?
01:28:36.016 -->
01:28:41.573before I listen to this, before I listen to this, can I give you a a guess on what I'm gonna get?
01:28:41.573 -->
01:28:51.332Yeah, man, entity, uh, based on the very stereotypical black metal album cover, I'm gonna say this is very black metal.
01:28:51.332 -->
01:28:51.832Here I go.
01:28:51.832 -->
01:28:52.713It's not.
01:28:52.713 -->
01:28:56.399Oh, two minutes in no change.
01:28:56.399 -->
01:28:59.164Oh, hang on, we had a growl.
01:29:01.832 -->
01:29:07.359So the uh primitive man is a uh noise slash um.
01:29:07.359 -->
01:29:10.744Did you say death doom or funeral doom, death, doom.
01:29:10.744 -->
01:29:12.795Wait, death, doom Not slow enough for funeral.
01:29:13.989 -->
01:29:16.497Did you say noise slash something else?
01:29:16.497 -->
01:29:21.398Yes, yes, their primary genre is noise.
01:29:21.779 -->
01:29:22.662Yeah noise metal.
01:29:22.662 -->
01:29:28.719Actually, I would say that their primary is death, doom, but they experiment with noise as well.
01:29:34.069 -->
01:29:35.533So I'm staring at meet me at the altar on my phone right now.
01:29:35.533 -->
01:29:36.234Do you guys listen to?
01:29:36.234 -->
01:29:37.015Meet me at the altar?
01:29:37.015 -->
01:29:40.722Nope, no, I didn't think so, okay, here's the thing.
01:29:41.123 -->
01:29:43.216Um for this record that I sent you.
01:29:43.216 -->
01:29:46.487I think the record was called uh, oh crap.
01:29:46.487 -->
01:29:47.210What was immersion?
01:29:47.210 -->
01:29:49.939Uh, entity is my favorite song on Immersion.
01:29:51.190 -->
01:29:55.757This isn't the one that's supposed to make it feel like you have a bunch of flies burrowing in your head, is it?
01:29:55.850 -->
01:30:03.457It's the one that's like two minutes of guitar, like I think that is the one that's meant to have flies burrowing into your head.
01:30:03.457 -->
01:30:06.953Yeah, Because this is off the record you gave me right.
01:30:06.953 -->
01:30:07.917Yes, it is.
01:30:07.917 -->
01:30:13.060I'll give you one more song from them, which is a little bit.
01:30:13.060 -->
01:30:19.382It also has noise elements, but it's a bit more straightforward.
01:30:19.382 -->
01:30:24.261Also, the album cover makes me uncomfortable.
01:30:25.050 -->
01:30:26.896Yes, the album cover made me uncomfortable as well.
01:30:26.917 -->
01:30:31.434before you mentioned that yes, the album cover made me uncomfortable as well.
01:30:31.434 -->
01:30:38.034Before you mentioned that, uh cole chavez, from the band I was in, named flesh bore, calls primitive man the angriest band he's heard, at least for this album that I the second one that I sent you.
01:30:39.637 -->
01:30:50.911It's also 11 minutes long yes, this is definitely not as digestible as some of the other stuff we've talked about I don't know what it is about.
01:30:50.930 -->
01:30:53.256You want to recontextualize black dahlia murder?
01:30:53.256 -->
01:31:01.939Uh no yes actually I give them like an eight now I think, uh, given what you could have given me I.
01:31:01.939 -->
01:31:06.734But yeah, so uh, we have been, we've been going for a little while.
01:31:06.734 -->
01:31:08.378We still got two more records.
01:31:08.378 -->
01:31:10.291We still have two more records.
01:31:10.291 -->
01:31:11.007Do you have anything?
01:31:11.007 -->
01:31:16.164Any last words about Black Dahlia or anything we've talked about thus far?
01:31:16.244 -->
01:31:17.912Music and genres and stuff.
01:31:18.925 -->
01:31:19.569Would you say?
01:31:19.569 -->
01:31:23.150Would I have any famous last words about Black Dahlia murder?
01:31:23.564 -->
01:31:26.675Yes, as soon as I said it, I thought the same thing.
01:31:26.675 -->
01:31:29.990Would you listen to other, their other material?
01:31:30.345 -->
01:31:31.770Yeah, especially some of the stuff that you sent me.
01:31:31.770 -->
01:31:35.289I think that would fit my like heavier playlist when I'm in the mood for it.
01:31:35.289 -->
01:31:39.451Specifically, I would definitely give a couple of their songs a listen.
01:31:39.451 -->
01:31:42.786I think this is out of the reach of my typical musical listening.
01:31:42.786 -->
01:31:46.247However, I think that I'm encroaching upon this.
01:31:46.247 -->
01:31:50.211I just it's the specific monotone vocals.
01:31:50.211 -->
01:31:55.694The vocals really do it for me and I really have to work into Black Dahlia.
01:31:56.194 -->
01:31:57.015I mean to be fair.
01:31:57.015 -->
01:32:00.237It took me a while to get into the stuff I'm into now.
01:32:00.237 -->
01:32:09.023I started out in core and new metal before I got into any form of death metal.
01:32:10.123 -->
01:32:10.764Yeah, well, who's your?
01:32:10.764 -->
01:32:12.557Who was your favorite band in high school?
01:32:12.557 -->
01:32:14.871Mitch, oh yeah, my favorite band was disturbed.
01:32:15.826 -->
01:32:17.010I was about to say the same thing.
01:32:17.010 -->
01:32:19.990My favorite is disturbed Well disturbed in Lincoln park.
01:32:19.990 -->
01:32:22.354But then I got into dubstep.
01:32:22.354 -->
01:32:25.384I didn't have a rise against get in there for you oh.
01:32:25.324 -->
01:32:25.966I didn't have a dubstep face.
01:32:25.966 -->
01:32:26.945When did Rise Against get in there for you, oh?
01:32:26.966 -->
01:32:27.750Rise Against as well.
01:32:27.750 -->
01:32:32.564Rise Against, probably around when I was 15 or 16.
01:32:33.492 -->
01:32:37.167Nah, dude when I moved into college, rise Against was everything I knew.
01:32:37.167 -->
01:32:42.988Listen, you probably could have asked me the last place that Tim McElrath, shit, and I could have told you that.
01:32:42.988 -->
01:32:43.630And Zach Blair?
01:32:43.630 -->
01:32:47.284I could have been like oh yeah, dude, fucking truck stop on I-74.
01:32:47.284 -->
01:32:49.051Fucking last weekend.
01:32:49.385 -->
01:32:52.895Oh, you know what got me into Rise Against Guitar Hero 3.
01:32:54.448 -->
01:32:55.323That's what got me into it.
01:32:55.323 -->
01:32:57.233Yeah, Prayer of the Refugee.
01:32:57.545 -->
01:33:01.051No Need for Speed Underground 2.
01:33:01.051 -->
01:33:03.292Was it Need for Speed Underground 2?
01:33:03.292 -->
01:33:06.347Prayer of the Refugee?
01:33:06.347 -->
01:33:07.653No, that was Guitar Hero.
01:33:07.653 -->
01:33:09.247You're right, never mind, ignore me.
01:33:09.266 -->
01:33:20.939no, they had a song called give it all uh, the first time I heard them was on smackdown versus raw 07, and I think the song was called survive yes, that was a very popular one.
01:33:21.485 -->
01:33:21.747Give it.
01:33:21.747 -->
01:33:23.048All, I think, is what kind of did?
01:33:23.048 -->
01:33:34.613You just did, you just like yeah, yeah, yeah, Normie, pick whatever me Actually yes, no, when I was really into the band I did like that song, but I think that was one of their more popular ones.
01:33:35.265 -->
01:33:36.610Wow, way to be an elitist.
01:33:37.525 -->
01:33:39.694Well, listen, when you start talking about Rising Ends, you got to be careful.
01:33:39.694 -->
01:33:41.211I am the elitist son.
01:33:41.211 -->
01:33:43.452I'm trying to remember where Give it All was from.
01:33:43.452 -->
01:33:47.136It was from a game that I liked and I remember I heard it, I liked it and I ignored it.
01:33:47.136 -->
01:33:50.180And then I got Guitar Hero 3 and I was like, oh, this band's really good.
01:33:50.180 -->
01:33:51.167Oh, I've heard of them before.
01:33:51.167 -->
01:33:53.167You know what this is my life now.
01:33:53.167 -->
01:33:58.091Actually, just, I am Rise Against, and that's about how I was for a long time.
01:33:59.850 -->
01:34:02.588Oh, I have one more thing about Dahlia before we move forward.
01:34:02.588 -->
01:34:13.091Um, I would say that if if lyrics are your thing, trevor is is renowned to be like one of the better lyricists in metal.
01:34:13.091 -->
01:34:20.509Um, a lot of his stuff is like based on horror and and doing like actual full-on stories and stuff like that.
01:34:20.509 -->
01:34:26.347Yeah, um, so that was one of the things that I was going to get into before we headed the podcast.
01:34:26.588 -->
01:34:32.875If we were going to it, that was going to be the next thing that I focused on Gotcha, but I really didn't get to dive into that much.
01:34:33.900 -->
01:34:34.524No, that's okay.
01:34:34.524 -->
01:34:40.377It's just something to keep in mind if you ever start going back into it again or anything like that.
01:34:41.305 -->
01:34:44.034So, other Mitchell, what have you been listening to?
01:34:45.426 -->
01:34:47.292I have been listening to Aesop?
01:34:47.292 -->
01:34:58.979No, well, he has, but so Mitch, also known as Alpha, gave me a metalcore band called Ice Nine Kills.
01:34:58.979 -->
01:35:03.416Specifically, he gave me the record the Silver Scream, which came out in 2018.
01:35:04.666 -->
01:35:04.786So the.
01:35:04.846 -->
01:35:05.689Silver Scream.
01:35:05.689 -->
01:35:07.149Yes, silver Scream.
01:35:10.027 -->
01:35:14.072I just want to pull it up, so I have a reference A concept album.
01:35:14.966 -->
01:35:17.595Yes, give you that and the concept.
01:35:17.595 -->
01:35:19.347You know.
01:35:19.347 -->
01:35:25.087I don't know if there's like a full story behind it, but each song is about a different horror movie.
01:35:25.087 -->
01:35:29.394So, for instance, I'm going to name off a few couple.
01:35:29.394 -->
01:35:32.814You got the American Nightmare, which is Nightmare on Elm Street.
01:35:32.814 -->
01:35:35.012That got its Friday, friday the 13th.
01:35:35.012 -->
01:35:37.193You got the Jig Is Up, which is Saw.
01:35:37.193 -->
01:35:39.533You got Rocking the Boat, which is Jaws.
01:35:39.533 -->
01:35:46.515The one that threw me off because I never considered this movie a horror movie was the World in my Hands, which is Edward Scissorhands.
01:35:55.225 -->
01:35:55.987Ethan, would you would?
01:35:55.987 -->
01:35:57.109Is that, would you?
01:35:57.109 -->
01:35:57.489Is that a horror?
01:35:57.489 -->
01:35:58.171Yeah, hold on, let me look it up.
01:35:58.171 -->
01:35:59.293It is labeled as there are no genres.
01:35:59.293 -->
01:35:59.694There are no genres.
01:35:59.694 -->
01:36:00.317I'm panicking.
01:36:00.317 -->
01:36:01.961Help, help.
01:36:02.481 -->
01:36:09.478Gothic romantic fantasy yeah, that was the only one that I would say isn't horror, but everything else on there was a horror movie.
01:36:09.478 -->
01:36:11.612I think I can explain this a little bit.
01:36:11.886 -->
01:36:32.315They seem to do a handful of radio-friendly songs or octane-specific friendly songs just to kind of help push the album, and it's much more apparent when you get to their follow-up album, which is, uh, welcome to horror scream 2 well, yeah, silver streams, cute silver scream 2.
01:36:32.355 -->
01:36:33.278Welcome to horror wood.
01:36:33.278 -->
01:36:40.487They definitely have a handful of select songs that are octane specific or radio specific, and it's very clear what those are.
01:36:40.487 -->
01:36:48.523And then you have their more uh, fan centric songs, like it is the end um stabbing in the dark.
01:36:48.523 -->
01:36:50.108Thank god it's friday, american nightmare.
01:36:50.208 -->
01:36:53.280That kind of stuff how did I feel about this album?
01:36:53.280 -->
01:36:54.225Well, it's metalcore.
01:36:54.225 -->
01:37:00.747Okay, I'm not a big fan of metalcore but, that being said, metalcore is what got me into what I listen to now.
01:37:00.747 -->
01:37:17.414You know I was talking to you, uh, because you were kind of worried about the record at the time, if I was going to be cool with listening to Melchor, and I told you I was open to whatever I grew up on Trivium and Kill Switch and Gage, I set to kill.
01:37:17.414 -->
01:37:19.247Oh God, what's that?
01:37:19.247 -->
01:37:21.050One band that I really hate.
01:37:21.050 -->
01:37:26.719Now you can do it, no pressure.
01:37:26.719 -->
01:37:28.442It's like Lead Sales and Paperweights, or you can do it.
01:37:28.462 -->
01:37:29.443Thank you no pressure.
01:37:29.885 -->
01:37:33.055It's like lead, sails and paperweights or something like that.
01:37:34.766 -->
01:37:36.573Oh, atreyu, atreyu.
01:37:38.186 -->
01:37:46.645Oh fuck, I love Atreyu, see, and I hate Atreyu now, but I used to love Atreyu, especially that album.
01:37:46.645 -->
01:37:50.725I used to love Atreyu, especially that album.
01:37:50.725 -->
01:37:59.204And so I got a little bit nostalgic listening to this, because it reminded me a lot of the stuff that I used to listen to, and it's not like, oh, I grew out of it and everything.
01:37:59.204 -->
01:38:03.115My taste just changed over time and I got a craving for something else.
01:38:03.115 -->
01:38:05.592That being said, I still go back to Trivium and Killswitch.
01:38:05.592 -->
01:38:06.826Engage Plus.
01:38:06.826 -->
01:38:11.307Modern Trivium is good and old Trivium is good.
01:38:11.328 -->
01:38:15.653Yeah, mitch, and I got Alpha and I got into an argument about Trivium on Facebook once Me.
01:38:15.653 -->
01:38:20.431Yeah, you got really snippy.
01:38:20.431 -->
01:38:23.014Maybe I just got snippy with you, I can't remember.
01:38:23.014 -->
01:38:31.828I think I said yeah, I really like, I still really like trivium and kill switch and you were like isn't that old or?
01:38:31.828 -->
01:38:32.670Something like you were.
01:38:32.670 -->
01:38:42.037You were insinuating that, uh oh, six was too old to be good metalcore this sounds familiar, but I also don't remember it at the same time.
01:38:42.078 -->
01:38:46.033But this totally sounds like an argument I would make, just for the giggles for it.
01:38:47.876 -->
01:38:49.378I think I got legitimately angry.
01:38:52.948 -->
01:38:57.731I think Ethan told me about this too, in which I was like how dare he?
01:38:57.731 -->
01:39:00.291The 06 metalcore is like the best.
01:39:00.773 -->
01:39:01.134Anyways.
01:39:03.034 -->
01:39:05.787I actually enjoyed this album to an extent.
01:39:05.807 -->
01:39:10.037Okay, shocking, imo.
01:39:12.646 -->
01:39:33.649My biggest complaint is that everything started sounding the same, and by that I don't mean like, oh hey, this is the exact same key and everything, but they very famously do A Bb style writing, which is you know, verse, chorus, chorus, bridge, chorus.
01:39:33.649 -->
01:39:38.827After like the third or fourth song, I was like, okay, are they going to change it up at all?
01:39:38.827 -->
01:39:40.631Uh, and they don't.
01:39:40.631 -->
01:39:42.775I also didn't like his clean vocals.
01:39:42.775 -->
01:39:43.457They're not bad.
01:39:43.457 -->
01:39:44.988They're not bad vocals at all.
01:39:44.988 -->
01:39:49.177Uh, they're not whiny, like Ethan apparently experienced.
01:39:49.885 -->
01:39:51.350Both of those are accurate statements.
01:39:51.350 -->
01:39:53.775By the way, which one?
01:39:53.775 -->
01:39:56.493The whiny vocals from Famous Last Words.
01:39:56.493 -->
01:40:08.279As much as I like JT and Famous Last Words they are very whiny, but I do see his complaint about the silver screen in Ice Nine being very ABABCB ending.
01:40:09.726 -->
01:40:14.875That is very accurate so like mechanically it was kind of boring to me.
01:40:14.875 -->
01:40:20.909And listening to like one song or two songs not bad Listening to a full album.
01:40:20.909 -->
01:40:26.512It just got old and I was like is this going to be over soon, even though it's only a 49-minute record?
01:40:27.827 -->
01:40:29.051I think it's 49 minutes.
01:40:29.051 -->
01:40:30.810So the pacing was a little.
01:40:31.605 -->
01:40:34.295A little just boring to me.
01:40:34.295 -->
01:40:36.131I thought the instrumentation was fine.
01:40:36.131 -->
01:40:38.030I didn't hate it at all.
01:40:38.030 -->
01:40:46.136I was very happy that there wasn't tons and tons of breakdowns, because one of my biggest problems with the core genre is breakdowns.
01:40:46.136 -->
01:40:47.591I do not like breakdowns.
01:40:47.591 -->
01:40:55.128I find them very cheap and very boring and most people don't do them well, I'm gonna interrupt you there because, uh, that's interesting.
01:40:55.149 -->
01:41:02.077You mentioned that because one of my favorite parts of ice nine is their breakdowns I just didn't feel like they had a lot of breakdowns in this record.
01:41:02.157 -->
01:41:05.150That being said, they did have a breakdown in uh, rock the boat.
01:41:05.150 -->
01:41:13.826Yes, and I'm really glad that it was the jaws theme for that, because I was like if they don't incorporate the jaws theme, especially in a breakdown.
01:41:13.826 -->
01:41:18.398They're doing this all wrong and I would have immediately docked points on the record.
01:41:19.226 -->
01:41:26.832Wow, I actually I wanted to get around to listening to this record too, just so I would have a point of comparison for what mitch talking about.
01:41:26.832 -->
01:41:33.898But to hear that they did a Jaws theme breakdown in the Jaws song makes me want to check that out.
01:41:35.287 -->
01:41:41.131I can give you another really good recommendation in a second, but I want to comment on the breakdown still, because it's so funny.
01:41:41.131 -->
01:41:45.289You mentioned that as somebody who listens to maybe a little bit more heavier style.
01:41:45.289 -->
01:41:46.752There's no, maybe about it.
01:41:46.752 -->
01:41:48.658You do listen to heavier music than I listen to.
01:41:48.658 -->
01:41:54.350For me it's like, oh my gosh, these breakdowns really hit the American Nightmare.
01:41:54.350 -->
01:41:59.970I love the breakdown in that, thank God, it's Friday, stabbing in the Dark, the Jig Is Up.
01:41:59.970 -->
01:42:03.255Enjoy your Slay, merry Xmas.
01:42:03.255 -->
01:42:03.626These are.
01:42:03.626 -->
01:42:04.467It is the end.
01:42:04.507 -->
01:42:08.898These are all songs that I listen to, specifically because they set up a breakdown.
01:42:08.898 -->
01:42:13.636Now there's only one breakdown and it's not overly done.
01:42:13.636 -->
01:42:14.506It's just okay.
01:42:14.506 -->
01:42:16.292Here it comes, here it is.
01:42:16.292 -->
01:42:17.314We're moving on.
01:42:17.314 -->
01:42:19.211Yeah, they don't dwell on it.
01:42:19.211 -->
01:42:20.587It's very much just like a.
01:42:20.587 -->
01:42:21.189Here's a.
01:42:21.851 -->
01:42:23.055I don't know what a typical count is.
01:42:23.055 -->
01:42:24.527Here's like an eight or a 16 count.
01:42:24.527 -->
01:42:25.207Here it is.
01:42:25.207 -->
01:42:26.470Here's like an 8 or a 16 count.
01:42:26.470 -->
01:42:26.649Here.
01:42:26.649 -->
01:42:27.851It is All right, let's get back to the song.
01:42:27.851 -->
01:42:38.426But they set it up and there's a bunch of contrast, which is what I really like it Is.
01:42:38.426 -->
01:42:39.849The End is probably one of my favorite songs of all time.
01:42:39.849 -->
01:42:42.135That being said, I've actually kind of been skipping the song recently.
01:42:42.135 -->
01:42:56.037But what I really love is their dedication to the movie, their dedication to the inspiration and I think that's really obvious and it is the end rocking the boat, specifically the American nightmare.
01:42:56.037 -->
01:42:58.810These are all things that I really enjoy.
01:42:58.810 -->
01:43:07.782The Silver Scream is probably my introduction to moving to a slightly more heavy style of metal than the myspace metalcore.
01:43:07.782 -->
01:43:11.113Now you guys are probably giggling, thinking heavy really.
01:43:11.655 -->
01:43:39.743Now you got to remember this is my transition to start getting into stuff like, uh, chelsea grin, which is then starting to develop into lorna shore for me, you know it's really weird that you like lorna shore and you don't like, because I remember we discussed Lorna Shore in that call we had with Jake and I showed you things like I think I sent you a cattle song and I think I sent you an infinite annihilator song and I'm going to be.
01:43:40.895 -->
01:43:51.685I'm a fake fan, ethan, listen, I really like the breakdown and God, if you say to the hellfire, god I was if you say to the hellfire, god, I wasn't going to say to the hellfire?
01:43:51.685 -->
01:43:53.212Absolutely not.
01:43:53.212 -->
01:43:55.783Let me look up the one other song.
01:43:55.783 -->
01:44:00.153You know, you very much have the same.
01:44:00.404 -->
01:44:13.734I'm just sick of that song you have the same notes that I used to have about EDM and Skrillex, I used to be like, oh, there's so many more fucking unders, underground bands than skrillex that you should listen to.
01:44:13.734 -->
01:44:23.569And then, as I got older, I was like you know what, if this is what they need to kind of get into the underground scene, they need skrillex well it's not even.
01:44:24.171 -->
01:44:38.810it's not even that, because I listened to that EP that To the Hellfire is on and I just thought the other songs on it were better and people literally gravitated to To the Hellfire because of the breakdown.
01:44:38.810 -->
01:44:42.510It just got old after a while.
01:44:42.510 -->
01:44:45.871They're like Will Ramos is the best vocalist of all time.
01:44:45.871 -->
01:44:50.752He literally is just doing what Dickie Allen's doing, except in a more popular setting.
01:44:54.466 -->
01:45:02.470Also, that example of a breakdown is the type of breakdown that I really hate, where it's a lot of empty space.
01:45:04.055 -->
01:45:22.398Yeah, aside from the vocals, I hate that style style breakdown the most I think there's a quote unquote heavy style for people like me who are more getting into it where the contrast is heavy, I don't necessarily want super low chug, boom, boom, boom.
01:45:22.398 -->
01:45:28.676I want, you know, take me from something melodic to oh, here's a really chuggy breakdown for 30 seconds.
01:45:28.676 -->
01:45:31.494All right, now let's bring it back up to something you can digest.
01:45:31.864 -->
01:45:44.757And that's a way of us dipping our toes into the water, to be like, oh, maybe I do like this you know who he, since he loves contrast so much, you know who you should listen to Opeth.
01:45:45.365 -->
01:45:49.211He wouldn't I don't know if he could handle O-Peth just with the song lengths.
01:45:52.306 -->
01:45:53.390I don't know if he could handle.
01:45:53.390 -->
01:45:55.311Oh well, the song length would be accurate.
01:45:55.332 -->
01:45:55.873Well, because?
01:45:55.873 -->
01:45:58.930So one of the best songs ever is Blackwater Park.
01:45:58.930 -->
01:46:00.872It's a fantastic song.
01:46:02.836 -->
01:46:03.904Which has no clean vocals.
01:46:03.904 -->
01:46:06.411I was more going towards ones with clean vocals.
01:46:06.411 -->
01:46:07.046Well, Blackwater.
01:46:07.087 -->
01:46:20.693Park is a fantastic song, but it's 12 minutes long, so the thing is, it's ever-changing, so it's not like you're listening to A, b, A, b, c, b, you know yeah, for 12 minutes.
01:46:20.693 -->
01:46:22.525You know, it's ever-changing See.
01:46:23.408 -->
01:46:40.481I still rely on that a lot and I think that's why I like a lot of Chelsea Grin still, because it will start heavier and then get heavier in the you know, ababc breakdown part and then come back up to a slightly more digestible but yet still heavy vocals.
01:46:40.481 -->
01:46:46.350I got you and I think that's why, you know, I'm still dipping my toes in the water for something like Opeth.
01:46:46.350 -->
01:46:50.436I don't know this specifically, but I might have to give this a listen.
01:46:50.436 -->
01:46:52.260Hold on the Blackwater Park.
01:46:54.444 -->
01:46:56.864I mean that whole record is fantastic, but let me send you a couple songs.
01:46:57.565 -->
01:46:58.409No, hold on.
01:46:58.409 -->
01:47:01.954If the Opeth person's going to do it, it's going to be me.
01:47:02.024 -->
01:47:04.113I was going to send him Blackwater and Harvest.
01:47:08.444 -->
01:47:10.956I was going to send him Ghost of Perdition and some off of Still Life.
01:47:10.956 -->
01:47:14.734So, not even a song off of Blackwater Park.
01:47:14.734 -->
01:47:20.112Nah, I thought about it, I might send him Drapery Falls.
01:47:20.524 -->
01:47:21.349Anyway, go ahead Alpha.
01:47:22.945 -->
01:47:24.573I was going to say on the whole, ice Nine Kills.
01:47:24.573 -->
01:47:26.826Ice Nine Kills has definitely become one of my favorite albums.
01:47:26.826 -->
01:47:27.137Let me back that up.
01:47:27.137 -->
01:47:28.268Ice Nine Kills Ice Nine Kills has definitely become one of my favorite albums.
01:47:28.268 -->
01:47:28.458Let me back that up.
01:47:28.458 -->
01:47:31.694Ice Nine Kills has become one of my favorite artists of all times, for sure.
01:47:31.694 -->
01:47:33.932I have been listening to them for a while.
01:47:33.932 -->
01:47:38.155I didn't get in on the early boat like some of their original audience had.
01:47:38.155 -->
01:47:46.934I got into them when Every Trick in the Book was out, and then I got into them more when Silver Scream was released, which I think is when they've really started to get popular.
01:47:46.993 -->
01:47:50.760Yeah, but definitely yeah, I like their horror theme.
01:47:50.760 -->
01:48:00.313I like even their older style before the horror theme, not so much the oh, what's the really jazzy punk shit.
01:48:00.313 -->
01:48:09.207Big Fish oh, never mind, it's good, it's very popular amongst the community that likes it.
01:48:09.207 -->
01:48:09.951Nevermind, ignore that.
01:48:09.951 -->
01:48:33.375But yeah, their recent stuff has really made me a fan and it's kind of made me want slightly heavier music, which I think, like I said, led me to Chelsea Grin and maybe start dipping my toes in the water of Lorna so I mean the fact that Mitch didn't hate this record has me interested in listening to it still, and if I ever do get around to listening to it I'll for sure let you know what I think.
01:48:35.668 -->
01:48:37.568I'm afraid you're going to struggle with this.
01:48:37.568 -->
01:48:48.894Similar idea of some of Spencer's vocals can be still somewhat whiny in the sense that he's going for that sound in some songs, specifically on it Is the End.
01:48:48.894 -->
01:48:52.831When you listen to it Is the End, you have to remember you're listening to a song about a clown.
01:48:52.831 -->
01:48:54.551He's doing clown vocals.
01:48:56.127 -->
01:48:57.072I don't like that at all.
01:48:58.587 -->
01:49:04.077Well, it is very gimmicky and I know specifically you don't like that take on the horror scene.
01:49:04.077 -->
01:49:06.765However, you got to remember people like me listen.
01:49:06.765 -->
01:49:07.827Growing up I hated and I was scared of horror scene.
01:49:07.827 -->
01:49:09.890However, you gotta remember people like me listen, growing up I hated and I was scared of horror movies.
01:49:09.890 -->
01:49:13.992And then all of a sudden I started listening to this music and I was like maybe I should watch these movies.
01:49:13.992 -->
01:49:23.386And now I occasionally will pull up these old movies that I never watched when I was a kid because Ice Knight covered them and I'm like, oh, maybe I should go watch this new horror movie.
01:49:23.386 -->
01:49:26.412It really has me into a somewhat horror fan.
01:49:26.412 -->
01:49:28.998I just still don't watch a whole lot of movies, but still.
01:49:30.408 -->
01:49:31.134For Mitchell.
01:49:31.134 -->
01:49:34.774Stabbing in the Dark has an acoustic version with Matt Heafy on it.
01:49:36.246 -->
01:49:38.474Yes, they've done very good with their acoustic versions.
01:49:38.585 -->
01:49:40.351Matt Heafy is the guy from Trivium, by the way.
01:49:41.327 -->
01:49:47.177Oh, never mind, I'm thinking of another song, their acoustic cover of Thank God it's friday.
01:49:47.177 -->
01:49:50.247They actually use the original actor for jason.
01:49:50.247 -->
01:49:54.775By the way, the original actor is doing vocals in that song, interesting.
01:49:54.775 -->
01:50:01.837Yes, they've also recorded on site from some of the movies so they've went to the recording location there.
01:50:01.837 -->
01:50:08.439Spencer charnas is really into the horror genre of movies specifically.
01:50:08.439 -->
01:50:13.555I think you would like it once you got into like the background, just for the history.
01:50:13.877 -->
01:50:18.332Yeah, they also have a cover of thriller which I'm kind of interested in checking out.
01:50:18.332 -->
01:50:20.269It is very fun.
01:50:20.269 -->
01:50:27.228The so my thing with ice nine kills was I just thought that the gimmick was too silly.
01:50:27.228 -->
01:50:29.465Just from what I always thought, that the gimmick was too silly, just from what I always saw.
01:50:29.846 -->
01:50:33.595And you know I can kind of handle it nowadays.
01:50:33.595 -->
01:50:39.393I might check out the Silver Scream and I'll definitely let you guys know what I think of it.
01:50:39.393 -->
01:50:44.033I'm looking at the Silver Scream 2 right now just to see what songs they have based on movies.
01:50:45.626 -->
01:51:01.868So um, anyways, you know it definitely not my thing, but it wasn't like I was like gritting my teeth, dragging my hands through the mud, kind of listen that ethan is giving me you.
01:51:02.090 -->
01:51:03.832You were doing that beforehand though.
01:51:04.032 -->
01:51:15.046Yeah, I was dreading listening to this, I will admit, just because I had an idea whether the sound was, and it wasn't what I thought it was.
01:51:15.046 -->
01:51:18.412I was thinking this was more deathcore than it was metalcore.
01:51:19.225 -->
01:51:23.306I think that thing you sent in the group chat is not shared publicly.
01:51:23.306 -->
01:51:24.630It should be.
01:51:24.630 -->
01:51:28.291If not, it's asking me to sign in.
01:51:28.291 -->
01:51:29.849Let me try to sign in, just to see.
01:51:29.868 -->
01:51:30.390Ethan.
01:51:30.390 -->
01:51:38.051If it's not, he can just always ask me for permission, and I'll give him permission, daddy.
01:51:38.465 -->
01:51:44.632Ethan, I sent in a song from their second version of Silver Screen, which is Welcome to Warwood.
01:51:44.632 -->
01:51:48.051They actually did a song specifically with Corpse Grinder and I think you would enjoy it.
01:51:48.051 -->
01:51:49.032I do like.
01:51:49.092 -->
01:51:49.822Corpse Grinder.
01:51:50.164 -->
01:51:51.149Yeah, it says you need access.
01:51:51.149 -->
01:51:55.310Let me work on that.
01:51:56.626 -->
01:52:02.413By the way, I think my favorite by the way actually comes from their second album, funeral Arrangements, solid song.
01:52:02.413 -->
01:52:03.408It's a lot of fun Okay.
01:52:03.810 -->
01:52:04.051Sweet.
01:52:04.051 -->
01:52:06.511Did you rate it, Mitch?
01:52:10.225 -->
01:52:23.828I'd give it a five out of ten okay fair enough two fives and a three all things considered, I think we've all done pretty well so far, trying to meet each other's tastes while keeping it kind of, you know, true to ourselves, that's fair, mitch, your music sucks.
01:52:24.350 -->
01:52:25.872I meant that to to Mitchell, not Alpha.
01:52:25.872 -->
01:52:29.019I'm kidding Alpha.
01:52:29.704 -->
01:52:32.332So I get to talk about Gojira now.
01:52:32.332 -->
01:52:42.211Yes, so I'll be honest, I have a playlist saved where I have all the Black Dahlia songs and then after that is Gojira.
01:52:42.211 -->
01:52:55.637And when I was going through the Black Dahlia I think I've already said this, but I really struggled, where I was really wanting more vocal change, and then when I got to Gojira, it started out and I was like, damn, I'm still not getting the vocal change.
01:52:55.637 -->
01:53:05.416And then one song sunk me in, and then I started really taking more notes on the rest, so I started running through Robust Toxic Garbage Island.
01:53:05.416 -->
01:53:07.853There's a couple others that I don't have notes on.
01:53:07.853 -->
01:53:11.069Uh, or or of us, as I think of the other one.
01:53:11.570 -->
01:53:12.233And then I got to yeah.
01:53:13.685 -->
01:53:15.238I got to a site to behold.
01:53:15.842 -->
01:53:17.269Yeah, I figured that was the one.
01:53:17.269 -->
01:53:19.074Yes, I love that song.
01:53:19.426 -->
01:53:20.931That's the one that got me into this record.
01:53:21.685 -->
01:53:23.311I dig this song.
01:53:23.311 -->
01:53:25.956I I I thoroughly just enjoy this song.
01:53:27.518 -->
01:53:29.319When you were talking about vocal changes.
01:53:29.319 -->
01:53:31.850That's when I was like oh, I know exactly which one it is.
01:53:32.364 -->
01:53:35.890Yeah, and the guitar kind of fit the vocals.
01:53:35.890 -->
01:53:46.905I wish it would have started with this because I think it would have set a better tone, because I still don't think the vocals really change a whole lot going through the rest of it, I think who's the lead singer for this band, joe Duplantier?
01:53:46.926 -->
01:53:47.728whole lot going through the rest of it.
01:53:47.728 -->
01:53:47.908I think.
01:53:47.908 -->
01:53:48.730Who's the lead singer for this band?
01:53:48.730 -->
01:53:49.112Uh, joe duplon tier.
01:53:49.112 -->
01:53:53.204I'm not gonna be able to pronounce that, uh, but I think he still has a style that he prefers.
01:53:53.204 -->
01:53:59.126But I think the whole band really came together to kind of put everything together in a sight to behold.
01:53:59.126 -->
01:54:06.237I really like that song and I like gojira more than the Black Dahlia band.
01:54:06.237 -->
01:54:18.426Specifically, on this album, toxic Garbage Island had a really long but still fun intro and that was really the notes that I got on 90% of the songs.
01:54:18.426 -->
01:54:20.569It's got a decent little intro to it.
01:54:20.569 -->
01:54:25.646It's groovy, it's fun and it kind of helps welcome me into the song.
01:54:25.646 -->
01:54:30.112And then 90% of the time, when you get to the vocals, I kind of fall out of it.
01:54:30.112 -->
01:54:36.113I still don't exactly know what it was on a sight to behold, but that one just kept me in.
01:54:36.824 -->
01:54:38.292Yeah, it's the vocoder vocals.
01:54:39.606 -->
01:54:41.091What are vocoder vocals?
01:54:41.432 -->
01:54:44.252It's that sound, it's the robot sounding thing.
01:54:45.306 -->
01:54:46.733It worked really well.
01:54:47.164 -->
01:54:50.515The only one that I didn't like, I guess, was the silver cord.
01:54:50.515 -->
01:54:51.106I don't remember it.
01:54:51.106 -->
01:54:54.774Off the top of my head, my one note is sound forgettable, lol.
01:54:56.506 -->
01:54:57.269I mean to be fair.
01:54:57.269 -->
01:54:59.635I always think their instrumentals are kind of boring.
01:54:59.635 -->
01:55:03.494Anyways, I don't typically like their instrumental tracks.
01:55:04.244 -->
01:55:06.912Interesting because that would meet with all the tiers.
01:55:06.912 -->
01:55:09.729My note is this is Divorced Dad.
01:55:09.729 -->
01:55:10.552Rock Goes Metal.
01:55:12.010 -->
01:55:12.966Wow, I love that song.
01:55:13.387 -->
01:55:14.894I remember that song, yeah.
01:55:16.945 -->
01:55:19.567What did you think of the Art of Dying Art of?
01:55:19.847 -->
01:55:20.770Dying.
01:55:20.770 -->
01:55:23.006Intro is long but cool.
01:55:23.006 -->
01:55:29.050I thought it was going to have a different sound but no, it went to the same old and continued introing.
01:55:29.050 -->
01:55:31.395I don't remember that one.
01:55:31.395 -->
01:55:33.139Hang on, hang on, let me listen to this one.
01:55:33.139 -->
01:55:34.046It's getting through.
01:55:34.145 -->
01:55:36.632Because I have a cool video about the art of dying.
01:55:37.475 -->
01:55:38.465Oh, hang on, hang on, hang on.
01:55:39.827 -->
01:55:43.792I don't know how much you know musically, but that intro is in 45.4.
01:55:44.453 -->
01:55:47.238I don't like my note for art of Dying anymore.
01:55:47.238 -->
01:55:49.949I wish I would have listened to this in a different space.
01:55:49.949 -->
01:55:51.134What is this?
01:55:52.307 -->
01:55:57.612That is a video that goes over the intro specifically and how to count it.
01:55:57.612 -->
01:55:59.992I think it's a fun video.
01:56:01.529 -->
01:56:04.484Yes, this song is very aggressive and very interesting.
01:56:04.484 -->
01:56:10.737On the intro I remember hearing this how do you call that?
01:56:10.737 -->
01:56:12.588What do you mean?
01:56:12.588 -->
01:56:14.793Is it percussion?
01:56:14.854 -->
01:56:23.671that that like uh yeah, the the interesting percussion in it yeah, yeah, this one was a very interesting song, but I I don't know.
01:56:23.671 -->
01:56:28.239I guess I was expecting a slowing or a breakdown of some sort, and it never.
01:56:28.239 -->
01:56:29.628I don't remember getting it.
01:56:29.628 -->
01:56:31.375It's not in my notes.
01:56:31.375 -->
01:56:44.051Oh, I do have one note why the fuck is the Way of the Flash 17 minutes long, and why are what it's, because there's a long empty space and then a bonus track at the end.
01:56:44.945 -->
01:56:46.252Did I miss the bonus track?
01:56:46.252 -->
01:56:49.927Probably because it's really far out and it's weird.
01:56:49.927 -->
01:56:56.689It's not important Once the song ends and you get that empty space, you're good to just call it.
01:56:56.689 -->
01:57:00.213You mean there's about 15 seconds of bonus track.
01:57:00.213 -->
01:57:03.332Yeah, it's like maybe a minute or two.
01:57:06.266 -->
01:57:13.319I think it just dialed in at 15 43, so it's apparently the the song.
01:57:13.380 -->
01:57:18.734The second song starts at 12 33 oh, never mind, I'm a fucking dingus.
01:57:19.536 -->
01:57:21.118uh, spotify takes a second to load.
01:57:21.118 -->
01:57:26.667So I guess when I got to the silence I started skipping forward and I was like where the fuck does it dial back in at?
01:57:26.667 -->
01:57:29.314And then I didn't hear anything because I would skip and it would load.
01:57:29.314 -->
01:57:31.587And then I'd skip and it would load, and then I'd skip and it would load.
01:57:31.587 -->
01:57:33.632Oh I gotcha.
01:57:33.632 -->
01:57:41.411But yeah, gojira, I think, is a lot more approachable for somebody at their stage in their metal life, like I am.
01:57:41.411 -->
01:57:46.337Um, I now that a sight to behold kind of hit the way it did.
01:57:46.337 -->
01:57:49.081I really want to go back and listen to some of the other songs.
01:57:49.081 -->
01:57:53.432Toxic Garbage Island this name specifically stuck out to me.
01:57:53.432 -->
01:58:02.413The note that I had was it had a really long intro and I noted that it had a handful of tempo changes and the breakdown had some intonation changes.
01:58:02.413 -->
01:58:12.537I might have some of these nouns wrong, by the way, as far as intonation and tempo, but Toxic Garbage Island was also something that really caught my attention.
01:58:12.984 -->
01:58:19.029But yeah, that as a side to behold really hit the next time you listen to Toxic Garbage Island.
01:58:19.029 -->
01:58:21.671Remember the last line.
01:58:21.671 -->
01:58:25.997The last lyric that he repeats is plastic bag in the sea.
01:58:25.997 -->
01:58:29.427Right, I remember, I.
01:58:29.427 -->
01:58:32.551Just I find that line to be hilarious but also kind of fun.
01:58:33.673 -->
01:58:39.167I think this was a whole like a song about our pollution of the earth and shit, wasn't it?
01:58:39.167 -->
01:58:40.192That's common.
01:58:40.404 -->
01:58:42.807Yes, yeah, they're very environmental focused.
01:58:43.952 -->
01:58:44.613Oh interesting.
01:58:44.613 -->
01:58:51.269They wouldn't like me, unfortunately, because Joe has you on a list probably the lead singer.
01:58:51.269 -->
01:58:53.713I thought you were talking about joe biden.
01:58:53.713 -->
01:58:55.818I was like I don't think yes him too.
01:58:57.006 -->
01:59:08.618He also has you on a list allegedly a lot of my cars consume a lot of fuel and pollute a lot, but I can need to confirm nor deny those allegations Not on purpose, just to be clear.
01:59:08.618 -->
01:59:13.729But yeah, I definitely want to go back through more Gojira.
01:59:13.729 -->
01:59:27.492I think next time I kind of open up this heavier playlist, I want to listen to this song specifically, and then I think I want to run through some of their more popular songs, and this is actually something that I do a lot with bands that I'm new to.
01:59:27.492 -->
01:59:40.233So anytime Spotify gives me a new band and I like one of their songs, I save it and then next time I come across them and I don't recognize it, I specifically go and start listening to their other stuff, and that's how I've gotten into some of my favorite bands.
01:59:41.376 -->
01:59:43.307In her own words, you guys aren't going to recognize them.
01:59:43.307 -->
01:59:46.796It's more of like an emo band, I guess, like a modern emo.
01:59:46.796 -->
01:59:50.234I didn't know they classified it as that, but Spotify does.
01:59:50.234 -->
01:59:57.697But that band has actually been on my playlist for a long time and then one day I was listening to them, started diving into all their stuff.
01:59:57.697 -->
01:59:59.127Now they're my favorite band.
01:59:59.127 -->
02:00:03.328So I really want to go through and listen to more Gojira once I'm in the mood for it.
02:00:03.328 -->
02:00:05.314But yeah, sight to Behold Once I'm in the mood for it.
02:00:05.314 -->
02:00:06.274But yeah, sight to behold, toxic garbage.
02:00:06.274 -->
02:00:07.497I went really kind of hit that spot.
02:00:08.097 -->
02:00:10.180You might really like their last two albums.
02:00:10.180 -->
02:00:11.912They're a little bit softer.
02:00:13.286 -->
02:00:14.250That was about to say.
02:00:14.250 -->
02:00:20.095If you start looking at their popular music, you're going to get a lot of magma and you're going to get a lot of fortitude.
02:00:20.095 -->
02:00:22.010When did fortitude come out?
02:00:22.010 -->
02:00:30.759A couple of years ago, like maybe 2022, 2021 a couple years ago, like maybe 2022, 2021.
02:00:30.779 -->
02:00:47.052I might focus on those two uh albums then when I go back to listen to this band because I think this album, specifically the way the flesh I think this one is just a little bit out of my reach where I'm currently at right now, but I could see myself growing into okay, so a lot of people.
02:00:47.634 -->
02:00:51.439A lot of people consider their middle three albums to be the best.
02:00:52.005 -->
02:00:53.211But also their heaviest.
02:00:54.706 -->
02:00:58.335So From Mars to Sirius, in my opinion, is their heaviest record.
02:00:58.335 -->
02:00:59.738It's also my favorite.
02:00:59.738 -->
02:01:06.990Then you had the Way of All Flesh and then there's L'Enfant Sauvage, which is very French and it's also really really good.
02:01:06.990 -->
02:01:10.000So if you listen to their new music and you kind of get deeper into Gojira, which is very French and it's also really really good.
02:01:10.000 -->
02:01:14.774So if you listen to their new music and you kind of like get deeper into Gojira, you will probably start appreciating their earlier work as well.
02:01:14.774 -->
02:01:18.934I do recommend checking out from Mars to Sirius and L'Enfant Sauvage.
02:01:18.934 -->
02:01:21.349If you ever get up, feel up to it.
02:01:21.890 -->
02:01:22.131Okay.
02:01:23.134 -->
02:01:26.212Stylistically they're a little different than the way of all flesh.
02:01:26.212 -->
02:01:30.516The way of all flesh is, I think, well, I think each record has its own sound.
02:01:30.516 -->
02:01:37.319Yeah, none of their records really really sound like their previous one, which is something that I like about gojira.
02:01:37.319 -->
02:01:46.288So you're not getting, like a black dolly, a situation where all of their music kind of sounds the same yeah, skimming through stranded and, uh, lymphont savage.
02:01:46.770 -->
02:01:52.319I definitely think this is something that I would like a little bit more than the album that I listened to, which is very promising.
02:01:52.319 -->
02:01:54.213I definitely think I want to go back more.
02:01:54.213 -->
02:01:57.653I definitely think I want to go back through this album a little bit more.
02:01:58.676 -->
02:02:02.113Okay, what would you rate the Way of All Flesh?
02:02:03.485 -->
02:02:05.734Tell me what would be a 6 and a 7 out of 10?
02:02:05.734 -->
02:02:07.610Because I think that's the area that I'm looking.
02:02:07.610 -->
02:02:08.413I just don't know which one.
02:02:09.085 -->
02:02:13.150Maybe you liked it, but it didn't like blow you away.
02:02:14.795 -->
02:02:16.198Yeah, so it's, it's a.
02:02:16.198 -->
02:02:17.529It's a pretty literal scale.
02:02:17.529 -->
02:02:19.215Five is a little, it's down the middle.
02:02:19.215 -->
02:02:21.091Anything above five is positive.
02:02:21.091 -->
02:02:22.692Anything below five is negative.
02:02:22.692 -->
02:02:34.280Not necessarily meaning you can't like certain things about the record if you have a negative review, like I liked a couple of things about famous last words, but overall I was just kind of about it okay, then you know what?
02:02:34.301 -->
02:02:48.318I'm gonna put this at a six because I think this was just enough closer to the 10 that it needed to be for me to go and look up more of their music, but not so much that I'm gonna like go out of my way on Monday when I go into work.
02:02:48.318 -->
02:02:50.872Then I'm like, oh, perfect time for Gojira.
02:02:50.872 -->
02:02:53.992No, no, no Monday, I'm firing up the soft stuff.
02:02:53.992 -->
02:02:55.355Waking up for the day.
02:02:55.355 -->
02:02:57.931I think this is like a solid Wednesday.
02:02:57.931 -->
02:03:00.149After the team meeting, I just got to knock out some work.
02:03:00.149 -->
02:03:03.833I'm like, all right, I need something fast-paced, heavy-hitting.
02:03:03.833 -->
02:03:04.777I'm ready for it.
02:03:08.411 -->
02:03:10.005Give me some Gojira Sweet.
02:03:10.005 -->
02:03:12.011Well, this was a mostly positive episode.
02:03:13.686 -->
02:03:14.931Way to bring it down, Ethan.
02:03:17.266 -->
02:03:18.511That's what I do, baby.
02:03:18.511 -->
02:03:21.828Anyway, yeah, Mitch, thank you for coming on.
02:03:21.828 -->
02:03:22.851Had a lot of fun.
02:03:22.851 -->
02:03:25.306Shut up Alpha.
02:03:25.306 -->
02:03:26.832Thanks for coming on.
02:03:26.832 -->
02:03:28.110Thanks for coming on.
02:03:30.689 -->
02:03:35.636We'll see you next time we invite you on buddy Mitch 2.
02:03:36.625 -->
02:03:40.703I called him Mitch 2 when we were together the other day and he got very mad.
02:03:41.105 -->
02:03:41.949Wait, who did you?
02:03:41.970 -->
02:03:44.590know first, I knew you first.
02:03:44.590 -->
02:03:57.788Okay, so hopefully, if you go back through or you check out more of what we gave you, including some of these bands that we sent in the chat, by all means let me know what you think.
02:03:57.788 -->
02:04:03.911Or if you want to just keep talking in the group chat that we have, by all means That'd be cool with me.
02:04:03.911 -->
02:04:06.774It was a solid episode.
02:04:06.774 -->
02:04:10.332I don't really have anything else to talk about, and it's starting to get pretty late.
02:04:10.332 -->
02:04:16.614Yeah, same, just kind of feel like we're going to wrap up.
02:04:17.516 -->
02:04:17.858Sounds good.
02:04:18.845 -->
02:04:20.051Hey quick interjection.
02:04:20.051 -->
02:04:21.408Do you guys need me anymore?
02:04:22.873 -->
02:04:23.615Not necessarily.
02:04:23.615 -->
02:04:25.091I can just do the outro, and we can.
02:04:26.167 -->
02:04:27.452I just need to use the bathroom.
02:04:27.452 -->
02:04:27.974Really bad.
02:04:27.974 -->
02:04:30.331Oh yeah, go ahead.
02:04:30.331 -->
02:04:31.789Okay, I'll be right back.
02:04:32.372 -->
02:04:32.773Yeah, no worries.
02:04:33.685 -->
02:04:38.277All right, now that Mitch 2 is gone thank, you guys for tuning in to the Mitch Will podcast.
02:04:38.277 -->
02:04:39.119Yeah, man.
02:04:40.444 -->
02:04:43.608If you ever want to come back on, by all means, I'm completely open to it.
02:04:43.608 -->
02:04:45.953I had a lot of fun, even hopefully like completely open to it.
02:04:45.953 -->
02:04:46.753I had a lot of fun.
02:04:46.753 -->
02:04:48.377I'm glad that Mitch liked his record.
02:04:48.377 -->
02:04:53.708I feel like it was going to be a little bit too negative if we both didn't like the album you gave.
02:04:53.708 -->
02:04:55.306That was my fear as well.
02:04:55.708 -->
02:05:01.046To be honest, I would be interested in coming back on.
02:05:01.046 -->
02:05:02.752I think we need to.
02:05:02.752 -->
02:05:07.911I wouldn't put this in the video, but I think we need to kind of dial it more towards the middle.
02:05:07.911 -->
02:05:12.115I need to go slightly heavier and you guys need to go slightly softer.
02:05:12.115 -->
02:05:17.356So I'm trying to think of what my heavier would be, because most of my heavier stuff you guys don't like.
02:05:17.356 -->
02:05:19.430But I think it'd be interesting.
02:05:19.430 -->
02:05:23.650But yeah, I'd be down to hang out again.
02:05:24.332 -->
02:05:26.597Yeah, it'd be cool how have you been man?
02:05:27.206 -->
02:05:27.627Pretty good.
02:05:27.627 -->
02:05:32.614And also it's funny you mention that because I mentioned at the beginning of the video.
02:05:32.614 -->
02:05:36.432By the way, I don't know if you want me to stop my recording or I can keep it going.
02:05:37.265 -->
02:05:38.952No, keep it going until we do the outro.
02:05:39.313 -->
02:05:45.368Okay, I did a let's Play for the first time in a long time.
02:05:45.368 -->
02:05:50.113There was a game that came out shit, I gotta remember what it was called.
02:05:50.113 -->
02:05:52.431Now, there was a video game that came out.
02:05:52.431 -->
02:06:07.311It was a car racing game and it's a direct inspiration from Need for Speed, underground 2, which is a game that a lot of car enthusiasts would say gonna cut them into cars, which I would definitely say is the case for me.
02:06:07.311 -->
02:06:12.992There is a video game that came out called Nightrunners and there was a release called Nightrunners Prologue.
02:06:13.713 -->
02:06:14.395It's only got one car.
02:06:15.670 -->
02:06:21.150Yeah, it's very popular for the car scene specifically, and I had to pick it up.
02:06:21.150 -->
02:06:26.192I had to do a gameplay through specifically because it was free and I've been waiting on this for a long time.
02:06:26.192 -->
02:06:30.471Wow, I am fucking rusty, though, dude.
02:06:30.471 -->
02:06:34.331I was editing and I was like God, I sound like a fucking amateur.
02:06:34.331 -->
02:06:38.731I was like, oh, I guess we'll go get this car.
02:06:39.975 -->
02:06:41.748Yeah, I don't know what to say.
02:06:41.748 -->
02:06:49.595I've been streaming a lot more, but these past few weeks have been so tired I just haven't been keeping to my schedule.
02:06:49.595 -->
02:06:51.588Dude, the schedule's hard.
02:06:52.069 -->
02:06:54.011I'm breaking the schedule tomorrow for the first time.
02:06:55.166 -->
02:06:55.408Yeah.
02:06:55.612 -->
02:07:04.131Yeah, I've been posting every week and last week I updated my schedule from Tuesdays to Saturdays as far as long-form content.
02:07:04.131 -->
02:07:08.600I post irregular sort of regular short-form, but I've been posting one long-form content.
02:07:08.600 -->
02:07:12.453I post irregular sort of regular short-form, but I've been posting one long-form every fucking week.
02:07:12.453 -->
02:07:16.912And I don't have something for tomorrow, unless I get up tomorrow morning and film a video.
02:07:16.912 -->
02:07:19.490I know what I want to film, I just don't want to rush the filming.
02:07:20.246 -->
02:07:23.175You should film yourself jerking off.
02:07:24.725 -->
02:07:25.932That's a different website actually.
02:07:27.266 -->
02:07:29.831You don't have an OnlyFans, mitch, and I have an OnlyFans.
02:07:31.228 -->
02:07:33.207Actually, I literally do have an OnlyFans.
02:07:33.770 -->
02:07:36.453I also have a foot website as well.
02:07:38.930 -->
02:07:43.635I made a joke OnlyFans, but I made it a real OnlyFans, oh.
02:07:44.626 -->
02:07:46.072I wanted to make one where it was.
02:07:46.072 -->
02:07:54.095I post the same picture of spider-man every day, or something like that, but I feel like I'd get sued maybe I don't.
02:07:55.136 -->
02:07:56.399Oh fuck, I left the other group.
02:07:56.399 -->
02:07:57.850There was a group that I was in.
02:07:57.850 -->
02:08:06.274It was like it was called mitchell can't afford expensive coilovers, which you guys aren't gonna know what those are, but it's this suspension component and it was a joke.
02:08:06.274 -->
02:08:13.935So then I went and I made it a real page and ah, yeah, my roommate just bought a motorcycle what kind?
02:08:13.975 -->
02:08:18.110of motorcycle uh that's a great question I'd have to ask him.
02:08:18.110 -->
02:08:19.175I know it's a.
02:08:19.256 -->
02:08:22.787I know it's a japanese bike is it a crotch rocket or is it a touring bike?
02:08:22.787 -->
02:08:30.359It's a crotch rocket, japanese Yep, probably one of the big four Japanese sports bikes, kawasaki.
02:08:32.065 -->
02:08:32.466Is that a?
02:08:32.487 -->
02:08:33.329Ninja 400?
02:08:33.329 -->
02:08:34.774Ninja 636?
02:08:34.774 -->
02:08:35.475, ninja 600?
02:08:35.475 -->
02:08:35.475.
02:08:36.546 -->
02:08:39.952A Ninja sounds right, but I'm not sure exactly.
02:08:39.952 -->
02:08:42.827Well, alpha, thank you for joining us.
02:08:42.827 -->
02:08:44.032I had a lot of fun.
02:08:44.032 -->
02:08:46.145You're welcome to come back on at any time.
02:08:46.145 -->
02:08:51.439Just try to give us better music, and I won't do that.
02:08:51.439 -->
02:08:53.449I won't do that.
02:08:56.945 -->
02:09:04.886You know what, just for that, actually, next time you guys have me on, I'm specifically going to give you guys heavier music that I like, but you guys specifically don't like.
02:09:04.886 -->
02:09:06.594I'm talking Attila.
02:09:08.225 -->
02:09:09.310Attila's not heavy.
02:09:10.744 -->
02:09:14.155Also, if you gave me Attila, I would refuse to talk to you forever.
02:09:14.625 -->
02:09:17.032How is burning down churches not heavy?
02:09:18.275 -->
02:09:19.086I don't know Ask.
02:09:19.086 -->
02:09:23.978Second Wave Black Metal yeah, okay, never mind.
02:09:23.978 -->
02:09:28.724I'm going to give like a Polish black metal band, just so that you're getting Belmont.
02:09:28.724 -->
02:09:31.667I don't know what that is you don't know who.
02:09:31.686 -->
02:09:36.233Belmont is alright, nevermind, move on alright, guys.
02:09:36.252 -->
02:09:40.628Thank you for tuning in to the distorted entertainment podcast.
02:09:40.628 -->
02:09:43.765We had Mitchell I was about to say Mitchell Wade.
02:09:43.765 -->
02:09:45.945We had Mitchell Wade on today always good to be here.
02:09:45.945 -->
02:09:47.266We had Mitchell Wade on today Always good to be here.
02:09:47.266 -->
02:09:54.373We had Mitchell Alpha Step Meyer on Mitch tell people where they can find you.
02:09:54.373 -->
02:09:56.796Anything you want to pimp out, anything like that.
02:09:57.577 -->
02:10:00.118Oh, if you're into cars, you can look up Racing with Mitchell.
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02:10:10.712If you're not into cars, well then, you can just make fun of my music taste and that's fine too, you should go to his page and make fun of his music music taste, that's also fine.
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02:10:13.94490 of my viewership has come from people making fun of me for being an engineer.
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02:10:24.795So if you think I'm afraid of you making fun of my music taste and pushing me in the algorithm, I'm all for it I got, we, we got our first hate comment about the podcast.
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02:10:33.631Oh son, Let me help you guys Listen, I've gotten millions of views from getting hate comments.
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02:10:35.270I'm the king of this shit.
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02:10:43.975Well, I finally posted the podcast on YouTube, so, and it did it out of magically, which was pretty fun.
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02:10:48.769But we got a comment on our Stephen Wilson Shadow of Intent episode.
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02:10:51.211This guy's like who the fuck is this for?
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02:10:53.893I'm like not you, apparently.
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02:10:54.787But that's fine.
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02:10:57.009But yeah, go check out Mitchell.
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02:10:57.811Go support him.
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02:10:58.528He's awesome.
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02:11:02.215If you like racing stuff, he makes good videos.
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02:11:05.671Thank you guys for tuning in to the Distorted Entertainment Podcast.
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02:11:09.720You can find us anywhere at DistantPod that's D-I-S-T-E-N-T-P-O-D.
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02:11:13.510On Facebook or X or Twitter or whatever it's called.
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02:11:16.990All of Mitchell Wade and I's socials will be in the description below.
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02:11:26.073If you are in a band and you want us to feature some of your music at the end of an episode, feel free to message us on any of those social media websites or our email.
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02:11:27.636That'll be in the description as well.
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02:11:28.859My name is Ethan Carpenter.
02:11:28.859 -->
02:11:30.773I am joined by Mitchell Wade and Mitchell Meyer.
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02:11:34.032Thanks everybody for tuning in.
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02:11:36.331Thank you guys for watching the Mitchell Podcast.
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02:11:37.413We'll see you guys next episode.
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02:11:40.329Thanks, We'll see you guys next time.
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02:11:40.832Bye-bye.
