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Hi.
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Hi.
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So um I don't know a whole lot about you, and I'm really excited to share you with the staffless community because there is zero doubt in my mind that you are a joy sparker in this world.
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So, Dr.
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Stephanie Libs, who are you?
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Where are you?
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What are you all about?
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Oh my goodness.
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Okay, well, uh I'm Dr.
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Steph Litz.
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I'm a chiropractor in San Diego, and um I went to Life West, chiropractic chiropracticology, um, and uh I love chiropractic.
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I see lots of babies and moms in my practice.
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I also teach Webster for the ICPA.
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Um, is this audience mainly chiropractors?
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Mainly chiropractors?
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We are talking to doctors of all trades from all over the world with the common thread of wanting to get their communities healthier with great loving joy-filled care.
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I love it.
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Okay, so that helps just so if I say an acronym, you know, half the people won't know what I'm saying.
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Yeah, like what's a sub-sation?
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So um I teach Webster for the International Chiropractic Pediatric Association, which is the technique that is all about um helping pregnant moms um feel more connected in their bodies, basically.
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Um, and then I also teach uh chiropractors pediatric adjusting, cranial work, breastfeeding specific techniques.
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I'm currently breastfeeding my third baby right now as we speak.
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Um, and I'm just all about boobs and bellies and brains, brain development.
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Why would a baby or a pregnant mom want to get adjusted?
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What is that?
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Okay, so overarching theme of chiropractic in general is we check for what you said, subluxation.
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Subluxation is misalignment that is that also has nerve interference.
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So our spinal cord um is what connects our brain to the rest of our body.
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If that protective system, our spine, the bones of the spine, are not functioning properly, that's going to interfere with brain development, brain function.
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So anybody really could benefit from chiropractic care.
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Um, but specifically moms and babies, because they are going through such monumental shifts and changes in their life, it's so crucial for them during that season.
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So moms have a massive amount of brain changes going on, not only physical changes, their body's physically changing, but their brain is changing along with that.
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And so when we adjust moms through pregnancy, it makes their nervous system more robust, more adaptable.
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Um, it makes them more resilient to the changes that they're going to face during the pregnancy labor and then that postpartum period.
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And then for babies, they are growing so fast, so rapidly.
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So we do a lot of specific cranial work with babies to keep up with that brain development because it is such a it's such a um remarkable system, but it's also incredibly delicate.
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And so we have to be able to get these babies functioning as well as possible.
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And we know that if babies are out of alignment, that actually inhibits how nerve signals are going to fire up to their cerebellum, and then that fires up to the prefrontal cortex of the the brain, which is incredibly important for brain development, especially in the first year of life.
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So chiropractic is really about the brain.
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So is it too late if I'm 52 and I've never been adjusted?
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No way, no way, no way.
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There's certainly other um other changes and adaptations that we have in our life as we grow, you know.
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But um, I started getting chiropractic care when I was about 12, and people are like, wow, that's young, and I'm like, it's 12 years too late.
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I was just starting.
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It's funny.
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Um, I started getting adjusted when I was 19, and I really didn't have any introduction to chiropractic, and I stepped into green book studies and uh being adjusted by Donnie's right hand, and I had no idea how great what I had available to me was, but it was all I knew, and then I went to chiropractic school, and I'm like, why are you talking about things outside of civilization?
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Like, that's not chiropractic.
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So um I guess I wanted to I want to pivot and I want to talk to the people who are suffering in practice, and I want to talk to people who know, you know, there our profession is for sure a confused one.
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It's the best profession on the planet, however, it's probably the most confused in that there are many chiropractors who don't know what a subluxation is.
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And a lot of those chiropractors, in my experience, and this was all news to me when I started the whole staffless practice world, I didn't know how confused our profession was.
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So for the chiropractor who doesn't know what subluxation is, maybe they're happy in practice, maybe they're completely lost in practice.
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How do we how do we anchor them in and share the truth, the sacred truth, the sacred trust with them in a way that's not like you're doing it wrong?
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Because I don't I don't want that message to be truth either.
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Oh, I can't hear you.
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I can't hear you.
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No, I can't hear you.
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Oh, you guys, she's I think she's cursing right now, and the system just muted her out.
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I cannot hear you.
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Right.
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I think oh there she is.
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I got her.
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Okay, great.
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I think my my mic tried to switch to my phone.
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Okay, um, okay, so you can hear me.
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I can hear you, right?
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Okay, the universe is not silencing us.
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It will not possibly okay.
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So I love that question that you that you asked, and for me it's two things.
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One, it's going back to our philosophy of chiropractic, and two, it's simplifying our systems.
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And so let me start with that one first because I think in chiropractic, in in any healing profession, anyone who goes into a healing profession um because for the love of that profession, but doesn't have a business background, it can be really tricky and challenging to learn how to run your business.
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And so many people overcomplicate it.
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And it's funny because I will have chiropractic students or other chiropractors come to my office and shadow all the time, and I'm a very flowy person.
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I'm a very like, if this feels good, I'll do it.
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I'm a feeler.
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And I always thought, like, my practice is really successful because we run on vibes, you know, we run on vibes, and it's funny some shadow and they're like, you have really good systems, and I'm like, I do, I don't know, this just feels good.
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But what I've learned by seeing other chiropractors is we do have really good systems, but they're simple, they're super, super simple, they're not overcomplicated.
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We don't have, you know, I have staff, but I don't have five staff.
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You know, I know people who have like one staff member for every doc that they have in the office.
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We have five docs in my office, um, and we have two front desk people who work part-time, and you know, so there's basically one person there at a time.
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Like it's not complicated.
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What do they do?
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What like what's the main role of your front desk team?
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The main role of my front desk is to hold babies while moms get adjusted.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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I'm like, I could actually run my practice without a front desk person, but I need someone to hold the baby.
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I totally get it.
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It's the main thing that I miss in having a front desk person is somebody's gotta hold this baby.
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And you know what ends up happening?
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Dinnerman holds the baby while Dinnerman's adjusting.
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Dinnerman's wearing the baby, Dinnerman's holding a baby while she's wearing the baby while mom's on the table with the other baby.
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So it's such a reflection of like we just make it work.
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We make it work.
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Yeah.
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Um, anything else you want to say about that last question?
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Yeah.
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So okay, and then the other piece is the philosophy.
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So um I think it is really, really important as chiropractors to anchor back to our philosophy because um it's really easy to get wrapped up in um, you know, taking care of someone and getting attached to their symptoms and their outcomes.
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Um, but if you go back to our philosophy, chiropractic is really about tuning up the nervous system, about keeping people um keeping their nervous system functioning well.
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It's not necessarily about the outcome.
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So if you're constantly chasing symptoms, it's to me it leads to like a practice depression because you're like, oh, why aren't I getting people well?
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And it's like, well, we are one piece of their overall health.
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And if we go back to our philosophy, my job is to find a subluxation, correct it, and let the body heal and do its thing.
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Well, whatever else that person does in the meantime is up to them, and I can, you know, help coach them through some lifestyle things.
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But my I have one specific job, and I want to do that job really well, and I know I'll get results with that, and knowing how to measure the brain in the nervous system so that when you are doing your job, you can track that and show someone okay, your child's ADHD might not be completely gone, but look how much better their brain is functioning.
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And then we say when you first came in, your child was having trouble reading, transitioning from one activity to the next, getting in the car and getting dressed.
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I can measure how well their brain is changing and then remember all the symptoms.
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Oh, they actually are getting better.
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Transitions are easier.
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He gets dressed in the morning.
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Wow, we are actually getting better.
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So, would you agree?
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Because what you're saying is not flowy at all.
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It's very survival, it's very anchored, it's very grounded.
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Would you agree with the following statement?
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Steph's success in practice is due to her ability to anchor in systems that work so that she can go be flowy with the rest of it.
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100%.
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Yeah.
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100%.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think both of them need to happen.
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I think the flowy is important, but I think the anchored is just as important.
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And that's why I geek out on systems.
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So um, there's so many places my brain is going right now.
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Bring it in, Jod.
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Bring it in.
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Which I just have to say, like meeting you, I'm like, I feel like I I like know who you are, you know, like meeting you.
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I'm like, oh, she's one of those like networky, flowy chiropractors, like, oh, I just like want her hands on me.
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And I'm a great chiropractor.
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And then learning more about you.
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I'm like, oh, she's like really smart and systematized behind the scenes.
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Like and you're like, you're so right with like when you can have the systems down and like you know, nail that in, it allows the flowiness.
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And if I only lived in my flowy, I'd get nothing done.
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But like being having the simple systems lets me be who I want to be in practice, and I always look at it like when I have someone on the table, I am dancing around the table, like it's my dance.
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I might not literally do a dance, but I I feel like it's a dance for me, and I can only do that because I know in the background all the systems are running great.
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It gives you space.
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It gives you space to be so I I love what you're saying.
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I think it's so important.
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And I think having there's so much I could say about this.
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I think having one foot in both worlds is essential.
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I also think that sometimes we go to people to learn the systems and they don't resonate with how we want to practice.
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And it's okay, you guys, please hear me say this.
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It's okay to hear to say, I the system isn't resonating with me.
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It doesn't work.
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And I think even to back up even further, to know what it feels like for something to not resonate with us.
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So to give yourself permission, I'm gonna speak for myself.
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You know, let me give you an example.
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So I'm 52, my hair is gray, see it.
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And over the past five years, I put on 15 pounds and it was terribly uncomfortable.
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Like it's you know the feeling of walking around and your under your underwear is just too tight, right?
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That's how I felt all the time.
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And I I was all of a sudden Lian Chabelle jumps into my of course you heard that, Liam.
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And I went to every guru in nutrition.
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I'm 52, I'm going through menopause.
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This is my story.
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And they're like, oh, that's your story.
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This is what you need to do.
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You need to eat more food, you need to exercise less.
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And nothing that they said to me worked.
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Nothing.
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And I finally went to the path of least resistance, which is move more and eat less, and I'm down 12 pounds.
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Now that I have that noise done, it's the same as chiropractic.
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The noise is no longer there where oh my underwear is too tight.
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Oh, I just keep feeling my underwear too tight.
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I'm so much more present for the rest of the pieces.
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So then I bring that to being in practice, and this is true for any type of practice, whether it's naturopath, PT, ND, or whatever, right?
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It's I have my systems that anchor me so that I can go be free.
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It gives our systems give us freedom.
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So where do you learn your system stuff?
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Okay, well, so first I should say when I was 18 years old, I started working for a chiropractor as their front desk CA.
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So great.
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Yeah, I think I I turned it was the summer I turned 19.
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Um, and uh so I, you know, I've been in chiropractic my entire adult life, and so I feel very um, I just feel like it like runs through me fairly easily, you know.
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Um, but I learned a lot of systems from one working there, and that this was before social media, there it was a super old system, you know, but like we hand wrote in a ledger book when people came, you know.
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So I mean, I'm not that old, but it was like, you know, 2004.
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Um, and so that was kind of like where I started.
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And then um, when I was in chiropractic school, I would shadow as many offices as I could.
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I literally went to one to two offices every single week, my last six months or so of school.
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Um, so I saw a lot of offices, and I think that's really important.
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Go see how people are actually doing it in practice.
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Take what you want, leave what you don't.
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Maybe you're gonna learn things that you don't want to do, which is just as valuable as learning what you do want to do.
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Um and so that was a big piece for me.
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And then um you don't want what's that?
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How do you know it doesn't resonate with you?
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Do you feel it?
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Do you sense it?
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I feel I'm a feeler, so I just I feel it.
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It just doesn't like ooh, that's a that's cool, that works.
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I could make that, I could integrate that.
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Um, and then I feel things that's like oh that just doesn't, it just doesn't sit in my body right, you know, that doesn't feel like it flows in me very nicely.
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I have a physical, I can dance with that.
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You know, there's like people like you go out dancing and like I can dance with that person, I can't dance with that person, right?
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It's like that feeling for me.
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So it's a for me, it's a feel.
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Um I can jam with that.
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So um you know Mackenzie?
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Um, I met her at Mile High a couple years ago, and we literally met on the dance floor.
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She's my best friend.
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I am obsessed with her so much.
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Like she's someone we literally met on the dance floor dancing with each other, and I was like, your soul sister, immediate, immediately I can dance with her.
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I met her if I said, Will you be my best friend?
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She didn't say yes, but I said you're my best friend.
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You're my best friend, you have no choice.
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She's so badass.
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So good.
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There are so many people in chiropractic who are just like, Do I really get to know this people, this person, right?
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Um I want to go to one more place, okay?
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I want to go to the person who is like, Yeah, this all sounds fun, and you guys like really seem like you got your ass together, or maybe you don't think we have our ass together.
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But I need to pay my rent, I need to put food on my table, I need to get my kid into college or whatever it is.
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What do you say to that person who's in practice but just not loving what's happening?
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Okay, so that is a really tough one, and I you have to find how you love it.
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So in the in the beginning of my practice, I was getting coached.
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Arno is a huge, huge mentor of mine.
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Um, and you know, he was kind of coaching me in the beginning.
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And I I remember he said to me once, um, we had this conversation about um, you know, I'm I was like learning from all the men and doing it like the masculine way.
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And he was like, you're living in your masculine.
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Like if this isn't gonna work if you're living in the masculine, you gotta get into your feminine.
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And I was like, you know, you're you're right.
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And like how so once I stopped doing it, how the men were doing it, because that like I I'm a I'm a fairly like masculine female, you know, like alpha energy sometimes when it comes to work and work ethic.
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Um, but once I stopped trying to do it that way and got more into like the feminine flowy side of it, it started things started clicking for me.
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The other thing, yeah, the other thing I would say is not being afraid to speak out and about what you do and the truth that you know and the things that matter.
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And um, I think it's really important to like publicize yourself to the world of what are the gifts that you have to give them, you know.
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So in the beginning of my practice, I did not have a huge, you know, peds and pregnancy population at first, but I made myself branded myself as a pediatric pregnancy specialist, you know, use the terminology legally you can use, but like everybody knew me as oh, Dr.
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Steph, she's got a pediatric pregnancy office.
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There wasn't a ton of kids and pregnant moms coming in yet, but I was in my training with ICPA, I I was branding myself as that, and I wasn't afraid to say that.
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And even if I met someone who was interested in chiropractic care, who didn't have a family or wasn't pregnant or a baby, they would see my business card and say, Oh, pediatrics and pregnancy, like you can do that.
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So it also a whole conversation of the nervous system and why they should come in for care, also.
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So I think like finding your truth, speaking your truth, not being afraid to tell people the truth about what we do.
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To me, that lights my fire, that sparks my joy, that makes I feel like I'm living in integrity with that.
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And that's a ripple effect, Seth.
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And I'm thinking about the baby that you're nursing while you're telling this, while you're speaking your truth, and how that energy goes right into baby, and baby feels the power of you talking while you're speaking about your truth, and then baby can't help but experience that in baby's world.
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And can you imagine the ripple effect that's possible?
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I have goose eats that makes me really hurt.
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Right.
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I remember our mother used to put um a video of Sade up, who would like there were all these like Mariah Carey and all these really famous, this was a long time ago, like one of the first camps.
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And um, there were all these famous pop stars that had all this makeup and their boobies, right?
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You know, and all the things, and he put a video up of Sade barefoot in a really simple dress, singing on stage like this.
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And he said, Watch this.
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He said, This is beautiful, this is the definition of beauty, and I I still remember feeling what I felt.
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Well, I don't have to be anything but what I am, and um so what's the Action step that that person can take right now.
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I would say find find some friends, find your tribe, find your mentors, find people who are doing it the way that feels good to you, and that that you can emulate or get anchored and like you know have a little mini mastermind with or something.
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Like that to me would be a great starting point is surrounding yourself with people who are supporting you, cheering for you.
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Also, I think is really important.
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Find people who truly support you, who don't have that jealousy, who are who want to see you succeed and thrive, and like you know, can remind you when you lose your way, can remind you who you are and what you stand for and bring you back to your center.
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Like font, surround yourself with people like that.
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I think that's if we all know where to start, you guys.
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Um start where your feet are, like look down at your feet and just start there.
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And what are your interests?
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What are you if you if you're into running, join a running club.
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If you're a chiropractor, go find the chiropractors in your community that are addressing subluxation.
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If that's the if that's your jam, please find those people, even if it's not find those people.
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And make sure that we're everybody who's listening, please make sure that you're getting adjusted.
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Um, any give us your best commercial.
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How can people get involved in your world?
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Ooh, um, let's see.
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Well, I'm pretty active on social media.
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So on Instagram, Dr.
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Steph Libs.
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Um, I am pretty outspoken on there.
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Um, I'm also pretty involved in the chiropractic profession.
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And I really um just a little side note on that.
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I really try my best to stand up for high ethical standards, being congruent, doing the right thing.
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Yeah, as we all should.
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And you guys, if you want to know more, please follow stuff on Instagram.
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And uh there's a lot happening in our profession.
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I think that I've always felt like chiropractic is a it's a um reflection of what's happening in the world always because we're so spiritually centered as a profession.
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Um, and there's turmoil when it's really tumultuous, there's there's ease and peace when things get quiet, right?
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It's very, it's a very interesting dynamic.
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So um tell us about CairoFest.
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What is CairoFest and why should people be interested?
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Oh my gosh, I'm so excited for CairoFest.
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Okay, truth be told, this will be my first time going, and I've been wanting to go for years, and I've just been in the season of like motherhood and haven't ventured out to all as many seminars as I have desired to go to.
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So this is my first chiropest, but I have heard about chiropest for years, and um, you know, in my mind, it's like the just this big philosophy event of this coming together of chiropractors who stand for the same thing, who cheer for each other, who want the best for each other.
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Um, and I will tell you like events like this, and like I'm gonna bring the heat, I'm in full mama bear road energy.
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Like, I am not afraid to hold back and say what needs to be said and hopefully light people up for chiropractic, for serving bigger, for stepping into what feels most authentic and congruent to you so that we can go and light up the world because the world needs that.
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The world is desperately calling for that, and again, we need to remind each other of the power to go and speak the truth.
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We're gonna light it up.
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I'm coming too.
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So if you guys are anywhere near Washington State or if you want to jump on a plane, come see, come hang out with us.
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It's uh September 21, two, three, that weekend.
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Um, and I'll be speaking.
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Steph's gonna be speaking.
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We're gonna have a Paul Reed is one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life.
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He is so humble and so kind and so badass.
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And I just I cannot wait to give that guy a hug.
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And you too.
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I can't wait to hug you, Steph.
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So for all of our listeners, thank you for listening.
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We'll make the world better with great care.
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Check out Dr.
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Steph, www.drsteph libs.com.
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Um steph, please stay in the podcast room and thanks for being here.
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Thank you so much.
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Okay, there it is.
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Our amazing community.
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We are so pleased to bring you another great episode of the Stahless Practice Podcast.
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Now, go make the world better with great care.